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Boba is always trolling....horrible
I do tho.. with bad dad jokes ๐
Who is that ?yongyang sushi?
lol Son
The best winger on the planet
you mean worse
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no I am kidding
The best winger at taking red cards for sure ๐คฃ
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Are his wings legal or merc-like?
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Merc-like.
didnt know son counted as a good winger
Isnt he playing in a midleclass brit team?
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Yeah they're probably just slightly above Barcas level atm ๐
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Quiet channel now ๐ถโ๐ซ๏ธ
Yeah sorry that was too far! I beg forgivenessment!
vivi baguette Messi best
Well Conte is a coach now
And Messi is in a retirement home
Yes... a bad joke for barca... not sure spurs can hold their class
conte bad
The words class and Barca is hard to mention together since a few years back ๐
Solskajer worse
Without heโs a washed Mourinho
Not a coach tho, just a clown
lmao
Iโll never forgive him to penalise lord donny van de Beek
Pep needs mountains of cash tho to make his teams win ๐ Also only coached teams who could win their leagues without him.
1 year perhaps.. we destroyed all ... incl the catalan & spanish tax household ๐ฌ
Exactly
...........
Well
Jurgen Klopp needs brits to win.........
Klopp is a legend too
cant handle other people than brits wow.......
J.Klopp i know personally...great luck.....unreal sympatic guy...2 feets on earth... very kind and unreal funny
Klopp has his flaws, but unlike Pep he has taken good teams and made them the best. Same with countless of players.
agree
Doubt.. ๐
What...he took good teams?
Ehm... pls google his history
I know him from Mainz
OK Mainz weren't very good, but he made them alot better.
Very famous german team
Right..he made...
When did this chat become about Liverpool the team I support!
And wiyhout joke...in real life a real very calm person....unless u go on party with him... jesus
It's nice! Glad to see Major Jeff seems to be chilling with his alligator by the pool or sth ๐
How do you know him then? You have to understand I suspect the #1 troll in here might not know him ๐
I worked in sportsponsering for decades
Not far away from mainz = frankfurt
Ah yes. Heard that everyone within sports in Frankfurt and Mainz know each other!
OK that makes you a bit more credible then. Up to 30% ๐
I ll send u some pics later๐
Do it ๐
Stewards not done with HAM, have to see stewards in about 5mins.
Something to do with use of safety belts
Can't accept that he won and now finding another reason to punish him
DSQ from next race provably
Nah come on fam ๐ F1 is basically British so there are probably many big forces who wants their English driver to be alone with 8 titles.
wait he is under investigation?
Yeah seatbelt undone to get the Brazilian flag
Haha yup, just saying opposite of what's been said half the time this year ๐คฃ
I reckoned itโs just going to be fined then
Donโt think itโs going to be a penalty
Yeah sky have said seems like it will be a fine
5k fine, 20k if he does it again
Thats nothing
Lol, didn't see such a performance coming
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all top 4 racers really had a nice competetion
Lol, didnโt see a single difference
anyway we can expect some cool stuff in the last 3, and max still has to take 5 penalty
Why would max need to take a penalty
better to take 5 than a DNF for engine blowing up
if he keeps this one it's a easy WDC for ham
car goes much much faster
He will become slowerโฆ thatโs just in the beginning
he should have taken 5 yesterday, he would have still got p2
And Brazil was easy with that speed
mercedes has nothing to lose, this engine is pushed to the limits
We will see but donโt think max will take a penalty anymore
I don't know I would not risk it
better take a p2 and new engine than a p2 and no new engine
If you ask me Merc got better car every year and they keep winning consistently.. It makes F1 boring for viewers but no one stopped others from making their car faster
Amount of lap time Bottas cut down in those 5 laps on Max just shows how much power they have got with those new engine.. Another 3laps Max would have lost P2 as well..
RB had the better car on several tracks, including Mexico
Imagine for once merc would have a good driver aswell.
Since Nico left only avarage stock car drivers there.
imagine Alonso replacing Bot ๐
They did so many championships with average drivers so no complaining there
Alo Vet or Alo Rai.... would be really racing & a lot of fun
His humor this year is unbeatable
yeah he is a good guy, but is a done driver
Well...a few years in ferrari & your life is done ๐ฌ
From next year there would be budget cap right?
this year as well
When was the last time a driver won from P25? ๐
when was the last time a driver had a car 3s / lap faster than 5th place ?
Is it likely that max needs a new engine?
It seems he doesn't, he took a full PU change in Sochi
Instead ham took 2 ICE (internal combustion engine)
This year Mercedes engine seems to be more unreliable than Honda, yesterday Ricciardo retired for a engine problem and a lot of other Mercedes powered cars had engine issues during the year
Donno if there was one time btw
it was a joke
Really look like Bahrain
Kinda like Spain and Portugal resemble each other as well. Also two neighbouring countries ๐
Yes... its time to see a good race again & an exciting f1 weekend again...long time ago we hadnt
With less space on the track, seems like Spain imo
Sadly is meant to be good for motorcycles so there aren't any good overtaking spots other than turn 1
exactly
Can this mean? Itโs highly a Mercedesโ track due to that straight?
You can't overtake in these straights
A zigzag track, closed, with a lot of dirty air basically...
Maybe it can be wonderful with 2022 cars, but I don't expect a big race Sunday
wait if the track is pretty much useless why have it on the calendar lmao
Every track is a Merc track now ๐ Feels like I've heard last 5 races "and everyone thought this would be a RB track!"
replaces Singapore
wait is the track very fast one? Like Brazil?
covid problem
Furthermore, Qatar just signed a contract for 10 years if I'm right, so we'll have a Qatar GP every season for now.
We just don't know if that's gonna be the same track
opposite
Is it actually that slow?
That's a moto GP track
Pretty sure I've head this track is only supposed to be for this season.
Yeah but cmon, it cant be that bad
So not adapted to F1, no slow corners for overtake, closed track...
Atm yes ๐
I heard Saudi track is bad aswell
But Qatar will be in the official F1 Calendar for 10 years, we just don't know if that's gonna be on that track, or on another track
So we basically got 3 boring races...... Abu dhabi got rework so it might be good.
Monza with walls... So very dangerous imo and too closed to overtake, let's see !
Wouldn't surprise me if both Qatar and Saudi will build new tracks and got these bad ones on the schedule this season cuz of other cancelled races.
Pretty sure Jeddah will be the track for years... But for Qatar it could evolve for sure
Ah yes that's how it was. They're building new for this season already.
How can Middle-east contries be this rich but cant invest in good people that can make a proper F1 circuit
They have 2 weeks, then teams are there ๐
I know, I saw a vid 3 weeks ago how it looked like. They dont even have asphalt for some places.
Because they rely on Indian workers
Who knows ? Jeddah could be a wonderful track ? Let's see
๐จ | @autocar reports that Audi have agreed a deal to buy McLaren, which would give them control of the entire group and ensure future F1 entry.
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Is it confirm?
Officially idk, but it confirms the last rumours I saw about Porsche
I donโt want them to buy a team. I want a Volkswagen brand to entry with either Porsche or Audi.
My too, I particularly don't want McLaren to disappear
But that's not confirmed yet so let's see
Much easier and less expensive to buy a team than build one
The Mclaren name going to vanish and change to Audi. Donโt like that.
Instead of Haas I'd be happy, but it seems to complicated to start a F1 team today...
At least buy haas, not Mclaren just when they are recovering โฆ
Yesss and Haas suck, either way and no history.
Gene Haas only cares about money either way. Why Mclarenโฆ.
Exactly, buy and build your own legacy
That was a beautiful project, but enough is enough, they just can't compete in F1 unfortunately
Would be lovely to get a Porshe team instead
Yeah
Haas was average a few years ago and now they are focusing only on 2022 spec
We could watch Mazepin finish in points next year
All teams are focusing on 2022... I just can't imagine Haas being better
Haas is this, Haas is the prebuilt pc that suck. Every other gamers build their own.
Williams maybe, Alfa Romeo maybe... But Haas is so lost... They go nowhere near the 9th place in the constructor ladder
They are the only team who didn't develop the 21 car at all, they are racing with the 20
Williams Noo way, they just got new owners that actually cares about the name. And Alfa is about to get a new contract with Sauber. It gotta be Haas.
Let's see...Atm that's boring to get Haas in F1
I meant Williams and Alfa Romeo can bounce back
I am just talking about other options
Anyone can pull a brawn next year
Yeah I saw these rumours too... McLaren seems the most predictable option
@crude kiln I hope you're as impressed with Hamilton's drive as I was
Oh no
Good to see Raikonen got his just desserts for screwing up my GP yesterday
Both yes and no. His car was alot faster than everyone elses on a track where you get almost 70 chances to overtake ๐
At the spot where his car was alot faster
True. But the only similar performances I've seen were from SCH once, spa I think. And either Hill or Mansell, can't remember where
they said ages ago that they want to move the saudi race to a purpose built track in a few years time
I have no idea how superior their cars were but for me yesterday becomes a bit overhyped since his car was so much faster it wasn't even funny ๐ But he also almost didn't put a foot wrong and knew the exact limits of the car and when to strike etc, so ofc it was a good drive as well! But think we've seen similar races from him and the Mercs before.
and if next weeks race is garbo expect a street circuit in Doha
Yeah I'm pretty tired of hearing "this track is hard to overtake on" almost every time a new track is added.
You only have to look at which circuits are most fun to watch (Spa, Silverstone, Japan) to see that they're the ones that allow easier overtaking. And that's what fans like to see. FIA should listen to them for a change. Max, 1 chicane/circuit
Its not all about good racing. its about finding a place where they can have a Grand Prix and make a circuit. At the same time find a place where people can tourist at and make tons of money.
A example i Saudi, its obvious why we got Saudi into the calendar.
Yep but money rules. They get aloooot of cash having the races in countries that pulls a crowd. Question is just if that benefits the sport in the long run since the more fun races = the more will be watching. Ps. Japan is not easy to OT on, fam ๐
In my head it's always been an overtaking circuit. But my memory goes back to dinosaur racing
FIA doesn't care if a race is good or not for fans, they just care that the race organizers pay them to be there
I'll give ecclestone credit. He knew the fans were important. Moseley ruined it
Yeah that's the thing. Car regulations can change stuff like that over the years, and I think it's perfect timing we are getting new regulations next season since many tracks now that used to be easy to OT on aren't anymore. Cars have become too good at countering that.
Tracks are becoming bad because where 20 years ago there was a brake zone now is flat out
Braking zones are where people overtake
Not fast corners
That's why Monza or spa are and always be good
Let's hope the hopes come through next that there will be more OTs thanks to the smaller cars and aero that's supposed to allow them to stay close without losing as much downforce.
Monza is another example of a track that's not easy to OT on anymore ๐ Was boring this season.
Lets hope my hopes come true and...
....tbc
what hope
Do i really have to write it down? ๐ฌ
ye
Pls ask for permission to @crude kiln . He wil ban me again...
McLaren Statement just released . Totally inaccurate news story in Autocar that Audi have acquired McLaren
Only David can ban you...
McLaren however are in talks to use Audi or Porsche Engines for 2026 ..
This when new engine rules come in
David?
Yes. I know your memory is bad but doubt you already forgot who he is ๐
Cant follow u right now....
I don't accept followers on my new acc so that's why ๐
If anyone reads Joe Saward's blog(he is a superb F1 journalist who actually attends every race and is VERY well respected in the paddock), he has been reporting that McLaren and the VAG group have been chatting. They want to enter 2 teams from their group, McLaten need money but shareholders Mumtalakat are not keen to sell instead preferring to try to increase funds with a new range of road cars. Any company looking to start a new f1 team from scratch not only has to invest 100s of millions to build factories, hire staff and develop a car, but also has to pay a $200m down payment straight off the bat to balance the decrease in revenues for other teams if there are more than the existing 10 teams.
However they donโt deny that they (McLaren) have been talking about engines with Audi for possible entry in 2026 . Interesting they also donโt deny they have been talking to Porsche about their evolvement with engines.
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Masi just recognised he had to penalise Verstappen for his defense on Hamilton.
Bottas was under the 5 seconds ๐ช
FIAโฆ ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Take out opponent = 10s, defend hard - 5? Really?
We saw it coming.
Where is the add of "Lewis to leave F1"?
Itโs coming in, just wait 2 more years ๐
i wonder if hutch has watched at least all f2 races to come out with reasonable stats for zhou next year
Heโll be a starter driver, and it will be deserved
reasonable as in close to zhou's real capabilities x)
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Their card creation still a mystery to me
Like how on earth Pรฉrez got an other score than 120 in tyre management ?
What would be the Zhou car in your opinion ? ๐ค I donโt know him well enough
Zhou suck
zhou is ok but gio wasnโt any better , the 30Mil in cash per year may help alfa romeo to build a mid field car
only watched the 2nd part of f2 season but i get the impression he would have the raw stats to outperform many drivers of f1.. almost half of the times he misses podiums are due to mechanical problems >_<
only thing i'd say for sure is his overtaking should be over 100.. and wetness ability average.. but since he'll be put in the series 1 drivers i expect the stats would be lower
yea definitely better than gio i'd say
thats the plan tho, 2023 probably
send him to formula e
I still don't know if he deserves a seat in F1...
I mean, we need Pourchaire and Piastri as well
perez is in series 2 , they canโt make him too op especially when his wwa is good
but real talk, this was genius from alfa... bottas should be the perfect man to help shape the car from his finnish and merc and age experience, and zhou brings the money and raw fire to do it
Yeah agree
especially considering 2022 car is so new
@magic arrow do you think Zhou deserves a F1 seat ? Or it's only thanks to his money ?
deserves, IMO zhou > gio ... him and piastri are both too good for f2 i reckon
Ok thanks ! ๐ I'll search infos about Zhou's driving style.
I love to guess all drivers cards for next season !
xD GL on that, not as much info about f2 as there is on f1
Mazepin did better than Zhou
Not a chance this guy is that good as people says
Already so overrated
- dreams about 11th team for 2 more seats in f1 *
nah i disagree, i dont think the field was as stacked in f2 when mazepin was there
mazepin was only 5th in championship Oo
Why is zhou guanyu getting so much dislike? ๐ค
Shameless alfa romeo
Because he's a paydriver
So? Also he has the skills to back it up as shown in f2 too , and we have not seen him in the f1 cars yet so why the hate? Just because he has money in sponsorship doesn't mean he has to be hated
He's not hated, but I think the majority of the fans expected a driver like Pourchaire or Piastri.
The money is just a way to trash him for sure
You can sum thing up with this question: if he didn't have the money, would he still have a seat in F1?
A lot of drivers went to F1 just for the money and nobody of them were good to be remembered
From what Iโve read people also say heโs not particularly stunning as a driver also as he didnโt win the championship for 2 years and is now in his third
Mazewin clear
Facts
He didnโt win F3 either for 3 years
Yeah it's possible? Just because someone didn't win the championship but showed strong pace and talent.
Just because he now has money and joins f1 as a new driver doesn't mean he's terrible , doesn't deserves hate
Itโs not hate its facts, also nobody have said anything that he is terrible. Just that his performance ainโt that good.
I see.. I sure hope he can prove himself in the new season :) , definitely excited to see another Asian in the f1 grid
So next season zhou and bottas at Alpha lol
Saying he's overrated without seeing him in an f1 car and calling him a pay driver is hate not facts lol
3 years of F3, 3 years of F2 and not winning any of it it's the exact description of a overrated driver
He is the pinnacle of a pay driver ๐
Yep ๐ Hard to beat ๐
Not on track tho
Paid driver checked, def overrated not been in F1 yet and already so many promise that he is going to be good. Calling him paid driver. Everything is a fact lmao.
Are you talking about Zhou?
Feel like every paid driver coming in is getting worse and worse than Lance disgusting
I guess haters will be haters so whatever , i just feel it's so undeserved :)
Just cause we doubt he's a good driver and think differently from you we are haters? ๐
Bad logic I know haha
Sad
I don't hate him, I hate F1 for being like this
In that logic we ainโt allowed to say our opinions okโฆ.
The pinnacle of Motorsport should be pure meritocracy
Why was my post deleted?๐
Anyway I try again:
He is still young and 2nd in F2. Worth a shot. GIO has had his and it didn't work out. Stroll & Latifi is still on the grid. Support Zhou! And ban Tom!
@zenith heath ๐
Half agreed. But gonna be better than Gio idk, if you think back. This season for him was actually good. But his team has messed up so many times. Also itโs unfair comparison. Most likely Zhou gonna end up with a midfield car or Better because Bottas is there to develop the car. This boy basically gets everything for free. And his F2-3 performance has been really really decent.
Can't agree more
The people are just talking, Max was 3rd in f3 and jumped to f1 and is one of the best drivers
Not comparable at all max was atleast really good for such a young age.
GIO shows flashes of brilliance but has only had an aging Kimi as teammate who's got his behind whipped by everyone since and including Grosjean many years ago. GIO can Q well at times and then mess up.
Maybe things will go better for Zhou, we'll see ๐
Especially about last sentence I hope ๐
Yea you cant compare both guys but still doesnt mean anything to be 2nd in f2, he maybe shows up in f1 car no one knows
What I say is the boy got every opportunity and got Bottas as a teammate also, he got new cars and regs. If he ainโt better then he is actually no better than Gio. Like he got everything on the table for free.
Wouldn't be the first guy on the grid that applies to ๐
@opal galleon But I also wish pure skill was what got people to F1. Sadly that's not how it works.
Yeah
Actually I think is the opposite, F2-3 has spec cars so the driver is the only changing factor and if you show you are good there you are better than the rest, Zhou simply didn't show that he's better than the rest
#mute boba & the french bug
Vandoorne did show he was better than the rest... look how that worked out ๐ That's why I think promising drivers deserve a shot at times as well, especially when it's replacing a GIO who's had his chance and failed to leave a mark.
Okay he is still 2nd right now and if he wins f2 championship he is the best in f2 either he wouldnโt won then lol
But that mclaren was trash
The French Bug hahahah ๐คฃ Good one!
Do you think its luck to be 2nd in f2?
Aren't like 2/3 of the cars "trash" if so?๐ He still failed to do well enough with what he had.
I see you ๐
Not car the team.
Mclaren really sucked that time like I think they got P7 that time
Alonso couldnโt do better with that trashcan
Yeah but that becomes kinda irrelevant. Alfa have been very bad as well and still a driver like GIO got what. 3 years?
Latifi is still in F1 ๐
Gio actually debuted for some years back. So he got little bit more than 3 years
To sum up I think we can give Zhou a chance. 2 seasons. If he doesn't do better than GIO they can boot him imo.
Letโs hope he donโt turns into Chinese nudle
As we reported shortly before, Alfa Romeo has officially confirmed that it will get rid of Ferrari-backed driver Antonio Giovinazzi, so it was almost enveloping that Zhu Kuan (Guanyu Zhou) would be announced to join the team soon.
It didnโt take long, and the confirmed news arrived almost immediately that the Chinese driver, who is currently braving in F2, will be Valtteri Bottas โteammate in the 2022 season, completing the Formula 1 field for next year.
perez?
We got ham already.. one more or less doesnt mattar ๐คฃ
well , alfaโs case is in 2-3 years which alfa driver does bad u boot him for pourchaire(idk if i spelt it right)
Thรฉo Pourchaire ๐ซ๐ท
Whatโs up bug
What does it mean ? ๐
Ask Tom
oh yeah I see ๐
Lol
Giovinazzi joins FE
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โฐ DRS could be REMOVED from F1 cars if the 2022 rules have the expected impacts.
The McLaren director has huge hopes about it and this topic has been discussed between all the F1 teams !
Nothing new thatโs the whole point of new cars
Drivers shouldnโt need DRS to overtake
2022 doesnโt have DRS in the setup, it is not going to be used next year as of the current plan.
Imo DRS makes for more overtakes so I like it as a viewer
Mercedes request "Right of Review" over Lap 48 Hamilton - Verstappen clash in Brazil
They've probably seen something in the onboard that got released
So much for taking decisions on the chin haha
Yea but they should shut up when lullul got only 10s for crashing Verstappen in UK
it won't come to anything imo, Verstappen can just say his brakes were cold or sth
it was really early in the race right?
oh mb
Lul - Lap 48
I hope so cuz that Silverstonu crash made a huge diff... Cuz with 18 pts for 2nd place winner would be clearly by now.
Just looking aลฅ The "New evidence" Je didnt turn in curve as much as he could much like ham in UK. But in brazil case noone crashed
I mean ultimately it's gonna come down to the final race with double points no matter what
and I just see verstappen having a crash or failure, I hope it's a good race though
wait is it not double points?
yeah, 2016 was the only season (I guess) with double points in final race
Oh nice, this is the first F1 season I've been able to follow in a while
I just remember that and assumed it was always the case
sorry it was 2014, the only season with double points
Seriously ๐ Noone crashed and Hamilton won ๐
Even the hardest ham fans agreed it was hard but racing... poor actitude again.... winning after Dq ..after -5p ...and still... nahhhhhh
But when ham took out ver.....silence....this team is annoying on a new not known level
I hope Merc have lost many fans this season.
I hope the merc motors crashes in an q, in any race
Karma doesn't exist if they win this season. And they will have done it by whining to FIA and crashing the RedBulls 2 races in a row.
Yap
I mean there aree a lot of new fans, and a lot of new fans are glory hunters so I'm sure there are a ton of new Hamilton fans
It's a bit like just starting to follow football and choosing Man City ๐
Yeah his car is kinda: Me press throttle me go faster than everyone else
He is very good tho. But also overrated at the same time.
I mean every F1 driver is very good, even Mazepin
I can't even be a mercedes fan after what toto said about crashing tho, like it's an acceptable strategy
like that's just not good for the sport or competition
True ๐ But a player playing in the 2nd highest division in football is as well. There are levels.
Toto has had no chill this season ๐ Seems like he feels alot of pressure.
True
Let's be honest, if it was the other way round RB would be doing exactly the same
If I was a new fan I'd be seriously put off from all the whinging from both top teams this year
After Silverstone and Hungary, Ham needed to win by huge margin to make those point differences irrelevant, now if they win it won't be seen as a fair victory
Thatโs pretty simple.
Redbull did play with Mercedes and denounced the rear wing.
Mercedes said they were ready to counter attack.
They now counter attackโฆ
No fight or duel between teams here, but the season is close to the end and all teams are ready to make everything to win the war.
Yup, if my maths is right, Ham P1 and Ver P2 for next races without any fastest laps means its even going to Abu Dhabi?
I absolutely donโt know ๐คทโโ๏ธ
People have been saying this all season but when will that happen?๐
Having watched the footage from onboard, think they'll find it hard to punish him but also think he was very clever. He didn't turn in enough to make the apex to push Hamilton wide but can't be done for turning into him
so verstappen penalty?
Red Bull played with Mercedes? Was Mercedes who managed to get FIA to ban their rear wing that had previously been approved. While Merc got to have DAS the entire last season. RB then filed complaints back at Merc for their front wing but it went silent. Merc also managed to slow RB's pitstop so Merc is now the fastest in pits as well ๐ And on the straights ๐
Doubt it, he'll say understeer or something and from the onboard he didn't turn into Hamilton
but he forced hamilton off track
that angle into the corner and not turning wheel
just a racing incident bro nothing to see here
And there was no contact and then Hamilton won and they lived happily ever after. The end. ๐
end of race result shouldn't distract from the fact that it should've been a penalty
Yeah but like I say, he can call understeer and say he tried. From onboard it looks like he did but equally doesn't look like he tried to turn enough
According to you, yes. According to some others, no. They already ruled it as a race incident and it was by no means serious enough to sanction a penalty after. Wishful thinking from HAM fans.
Couldn't hamilton have just gone for the switchback as verstappen goes wide
welllll merc requested a review and with the onboard it'll certainly be reviewed
If no penalty though it does make the ones in Austria look laughable, they have to be consistent and if they don't penalise this then there isn't consistency
they're never consistent
def didn't try to turn enough based on that footage, will see what FIA comes up with the final combination of evidence
I mean he's defending the inside so he's never really making that turn at that speed
The ones in Austria got alot of bad criticism, but there the drivers also lost positions. What did Hamilton lose? All this talk is like if they would had given HAM a harder penalty after sending Max to the hospital in Silverstone, which they didn't. If they would on this but not on that it would be laughable.
Hamilton lost time on verstappen in the race due to him being forced to avoid the crash and go off track...
Yeah and HAM sent Max to the hospital and scored 25-0 in that race alone. RB's complaints after were ignored. If Mercs isn't now as well it becomes silly ๐ You have to agree with that.
And he also overtook him a few laps later and won clearly.
doesn't mean penalty didn't occur still
ngl 10 sec penalty made sense cause it was hard racing and hamilton got it wrong. verstappen in brazil forced hamilton off track, was accidental at silverstone
just cause a crash occurs doesn't mean penalty is any different
You can debate just as well if Silverstone was an accident as well if so. Hard to prove. But I've already said all I can now. This feels like a desperate attempt to get sth for free and just silly since he won. If he hadn't people would still had debated it like crazy without any side "winning".
Only issue I see with not penalising here is what drivers might think is OK going forwards.
red bull v merc is always a try to get stuff for free
fully agree
mazespin with top haas car next year gonna push vettel off track someway
If you get two in that situation who aren't as good as Ham and Ver there could be serious accidents because let's be honest, only reason they didn't crash was because Ham avoided it
Yep. Look at Monza as well
they're getting more and more aggressive and FIA needs to continue putting foot down
For me, result would be no penalty but a warning and made very clear that pushing off track is not ok
Silverstone still the most horrendous example by far. You don't do what HAM did there in those speeds.
they were tightly racing in a fast corner and tapped wheels
i'm happy max was ok from the situation but they've been racing tooth and nail all year
Yeah if they tell everyone that since what we saw there isn't unusual. Only gets more attention cuz it's for the title.
issue is it's been dangerous all year between the two
Is way more to it than that. HAM's line wasn't at all the same as he did otherwise and he has got alot of bad press for his driving there.
and FIA needs to impose penalties to be against this
not saying his penalty wasn't warranted
I'd like to see harder penalties and that the effect should warrant penalties after as well since crashes aren't excluded from the budget cap.
bottom line max forced lewis off track, and lewis took avoiding action, losing time in the process, hence a 5s penalty
As I said that's your opinion. People could debate that forever and disagree.
After race rb never ever had done that.... race won, best comeback in history....and now cry for a review? Jesus....thats so poor
it makes sense to request a review after that onboard
cause if penalty is given during race bottas P2
Man acting like Lewis wanted to send him at the barriers
If you're still thinking about that
Or if you count max terrorist strike at other f1 drivers he shouldn't even be allowed to drive๐คฃ
ok lets get away from max lewis discussion cause we arguing
which team is going to make the furthest jump up the grid with the new regulations
and which of those teams will violate a rule
No idea but I bet Tom has some ๐
They better review how ham took out ver 2 times this season & sh..their...
Ofcourse. Next year skoda will dominate followed by citrรดen
I think Toto did some Toto ยดstuff. Be proud of the Toto
He did some "F1 is British and they want their British driver to be the only one with 8 titles" ๐๐
AHAHA AWESOME ๐คฃ
Yes ๐
Is this from you ?
For all they did this season i wish them from the bottom of the heart a double breakdown of both motors in last gp
Sadly not. My meme making brain hasn't been activated last few months ๐
Would be karma.
Years?
๐
#banTom
No idea but I seriously hope ferrari and mclaren are up challenging merc and rb
2021*
oh 100%
The Ferrari engine seems absolutely wonderful from what I see from french journalists
Haas using it
๐
love it
Penalty for Max incoming. Bottas up to 2nd is what Mercedes want.
It was stated like 4h that there were no documents and evidence handed over to stewards by time
in doubt 5s to vettel and -2 points on his superlicense
yes, surprised ?
Why?
"he pushed me against the wall"
#banTom2021
Hi This game is The best
Yo but what if they just put together a car, go to 2022 testing and just have the fastest car by a large margin
Mazepin 2022 World champion, everyone eating their words
Hutch will fix MM before that happensโฆ.
idk if its me but why does he looks like he is about to cry while drinking
Ham retires after p2 in wc this year. Brilliant news.
Hi
hi
Haas very well can put together a competitive midfield car. Especially with these regulations designed to bring the grid together
Haas had a car that was able to compete in the upper half of the midfield when it first came in, just has to get it right with the money this year.
also they spent 0 money this year so their budget is bigger
@hard isle I didnโt think you would be a Lulu fanboy
Iโm not ๐คฃ I just found it on Instagram and found it funny
I think you might fact check ๐ they probably spend more creasing then cars than actually trying to upgrade it ๐
they didn't put any money into development
there's the fact check :kekw:
The real funny thing will be watching lullus face when he has to say congratz to ver for winning the titel ๐๐๐ค๐ค
Technically he donโt need to. You canโt force him to say โcongratsโ lol
If one would be able to leave the scenario without any word... ham!!
I am still looking for the news, if max gets a penalty or not. FIA said the news drops today.
Ofc he will get... nobody of the racing world will understand...but merc told fia already what they want...
Do you know? @zenith heath
In the game? Here is real f1 chat
To get ham in the game you need to reach higher series
How reach the higher series?
Win races & race flags
Ok. Thank you
Best tip is to actually use the correct channel ๐ This isnโt the one
We should open a anti-ham chanel aswell ๐
With you as mod ๐
Sounds brilliant!
#ban @crude kiln
#ban french bug @hard isle
So I say sth "brilliant" but still get hit with demands of me being banned??๐
Ofc... you are a pontential danger for that group! Real reasons, f1 knowledge etc. are not welcome if they arent directed 100% vs ham ๐ค
lol
#wewannawinontrack
#IwantIceCream but life is just hard
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Mercs appeal flopped
@gentle terrace
I didnt expect that at all tbh
Itโs so wrong that max didnโt get a penalty when there should be atleast 5sec penalty. This is so wrong by FIA. This basically means a driver can just drive outside the track and overtake and not getting punished. Also drivers can just run other drivers out when defending. This is so wrong. Not rooting for anyone. But itโs wrong.
I think they took the more reasonable choice in this case because there wasn't even an investigation, RB didn't even push to have a 5s gap from bottas, thing that they would have done if there was a slight chance to get a penalty
Said that, I think that at least an investigation should have been triggered but because it didn't we are in this situation
I just donโt understand what went wrong? Because this is obviously atleast 5sec penalty. And this is even worse since max himself on the footage didnโt even try to steer away. And he ended up going off too?
Itโs just 5sec but remember that Bottas was just 8ish behind. You lose like 20s in and out pit and +5sec
Was it obviously at least 5sec penalty in turkey also?
It's difficult to understand the situation just from the steering angle, he was at the limit with Lewis on the outside and if he loses grip he crashes also he outbreaked himself massively
A 5s penalty is served at the end if you don't stop anymore and at the end of the race bottas was 3s away from ver
Whatโs wrong with that is he went for the inside despite Lewis being in front of him. And the thing that makes it bad is that he went outside. If he pulled the move then itโs ok.
Heโs not turning into Ham. Both are breaking and you canโt simply change your angle that much at those speeds.
Didnโt say anything about that.
Ham did the same move in turn 1 against nor
But again - was it a 5s penalty also for Ham in Turkey?
He didnt overtook Hamilton outside of track
It was an example if you donโt get a penalty for such a move. We have seen in the past drivers getting punished by same thing. How is this any different is my question.
And the fact that he didnโt even give the position back when drivers often has to.
We are turning quite fast in double standards territory
I love how ppl love to forgeting silverston on that matter he got ONLY 10s for crashing Verstappen which is bad decision aswell so its even
Havenโt watched turkey so I donโt know about that. But I donโt think itโs fair for drivers getting penalty for same move in the past grand prices this year and get penalty.
The only difference is that ver went outside the track, other examples are of people that pushed a car off by remaining on yrack
He pushed Perez out of the track at pit entry
Exactly yet no penalty aswell.
Ham has done his fair share of pushing others off as well
Albon, Perez
Not even talking about Max here
But he was ahead when he went off.
But none knows that, you donโt if he actually struggles to not steer in that way. My point is itโs not fair for other drivers. Not talking about ham.
Talking about in general.
Doesn't matter much when you are side to side if you are half a meter in front or not
Well there were a lot of bad decisions this year lets say we need new stewards
Well it does but you are ham fan so you think it isnt.
Agree
They are not always the same stewards that's why their decision are not consistent
I just donโt understand stewards decisions whole season
True but the managements is the same like Masi and Jo Bauer is always there
A lot of them are not exactly ideal
Lol you know nothing about f1 muting you i have bo time to talk with nonobjective ham fan. Bye kid.
Ehm, you are wrong, I'm a Ferrari fan who cheers for Verstappen to stop Lewis have the eighth championship so that Schumacher holds the record
Wait donโt they both hold the record?
Yes but share the record is better than not
They just note incidents to be reviewed but the decision is made by the stewards
Masi and team are focused on running the race not give penalties and review episodes
Yeah yeah. But itโs just wrong. I think they need to clarify some rules more when it comes to such a move.
Totally agree on the inconsistency
Like they reviewed it like this, ok itโs no allowed to push a driver off track for example. But if you โaccidently moved outside the trackโ went in and overtake again. Itโs ok since it was just accident. Stuff like that needs to be clarify more.
Same thing for going off track in quali
I fully agree
I think its political. Ham did not get punished hard enough a few times before.
A good thing I want is canโt same stewards be on every race and same people all time. Like I know for fact that they are switching some people every Grand Prix. So itโs not always same people that review stuff.
Still a political & surprising decession i beleive...BUT...
Yeah yeah
Hehe
Or at least agree on standards at the start of the season and be consistent about it for every race
Yeah
i'm shocked they didn't investigate it
Verstappen only got ahead of Ham as he was going too fast for corner, couldn't slow down so went off. Try playing a real f1 game and that happens. Could easily have knocked hams wing off. OK no pen...
oh hey svally
Who you?
Some random person on the internet
Sure Verstappen should just used hamiltons tactic from silverston
@jaunty cave I like to fair racing not a fan of ham or ver but seems to me ver gets away with a lot all the time best driver I reckon is Ricardo never see that guy forcing drivers off the track. Itโs not hard racing itโs reckless he could seriously in a fatal crash one day
xDDDDD
lol RB rear wing is a joke
Lol ham is a joke
#banTom2021
Qatar looks so boring circuit. Money money
Seems to me like it could potentially be a safety issue?
Gap must surely be bigger than 85mm as well lol
Merc broken rear wing = DSQ, RB broken rear wing = fix it, no problem ๐
#bann ham forever
no idea but how is a part of the car acting like that, for few events already, and no one is acting
๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ all Horner is doing is moaning about Merc rear wing though ๐คฆ๐ผโโ๏ธ
They are allowed to fix it and justify it on free practice, after all thatโs what free practice is for.
yaeh but brasil/mexico and now qatar, I could understand 1 gp
If they canโt fix it by the start of quali I think itโs unfair that they ainโt getting DSQ for this. Because itโs clearly over 85mm.
no drs for them ๐
Yeah that works too
But it's making them go slower so it's fine lol
But like Mercedes got DSQ because it failed under test, so itโs unfair if they donโt get any penalty for this, if they use the drs under quali ofc.
Just seen Horner talking about test on rear wing after quali, is that all teams or just Mercs they're testing?
Idk
But like RB rear wing get a grip, and FIA track limits get a grip. Qatar get more people.
Track limits ridiculous, all corners should be stay on track or get penalty. It's not rocket science.
Once again itโs just a joke that F1 are in Qatar and race there
And so far only Seb and Lewis that have said anything about it?
Mazepinโs car is just a bin ๐
Gasly going on Mediums, seems like he tries a huge Quali performance with Softs later
Yup. soft doing decent work for sure
Yeah, for 2 laps ๐คฃ and then theyโre dead

Leclerc ๐ถโ๐ซ๏ธ
Why did Hamilton go for another lap ? ๐ค
๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ but was on old tyres and gone quickest lol

Mr Saturday does it again ๐
Gasly getting pole today
I hope so 
Gasly doing the opposite of everyone else ๐ค
I Love gasly
Perez going to need softs to get through?
Going to be a right mix of tyres in top 10
Perez out in Q2 on softs ๐ฎ
Stop quali now, interesting top 4 lol
Gaslyyyyyy how close
#ban checo ๐คฆโโ๏ธ ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Blaming the team for where they put him on track
Q2 Grid
HAMILTON
GASLY
ALONSO
VERSTAPPEN
BOTTAS
OCON
TSUNODA
VETTEL
NORRIS
SAINZ
ELIMIATED
PEREZ
STROLL
LECLERC
RICCIARDO
RUSSELL
Rip puncture
Hamilton faultless. You have to feel that last weekend has given Hamilton and Merc a +10% determination boost as HAM looks at his very best right now
#ban ham.#ban merc
Morale and newer ice makes Lewis pretty strong
But ull never know what the likes of max and gasly can do too
Gasly crash into ham 1st turn? ๐
If Ham pulls clear and wins at a canter tomorrow it's going to be interesting to see how Max mentality is through the next races, I think his petulance will show and we could see a coming together. Clean racing though and the title is Hamiltons, bizarrely
What if we're really going to see a points tie for max n lewis into abu dhabi tho ๐ค
Gasly is a king
Yeah I mean tbh gasly has been showing pretty good performances even after the dnf in cota
I mean, Mercedes - RedBull - Ferrari - McLaren and the top 4 is Gasly ๐ญ how on earth...
Has been the case almost all season btw
Gasly deserves a chance in a top car away from red bull toxicity
Gasly -> RedBull
Verstappen -> AlphaTauri
Norris "I'm not P1 so still a bit disappointed" ๐
What a guy 
I slept lol. Who come at top.
Lewis 
Checo made a mistake in one sector and was out of Q2, Leclerc as well because he was horrible for some reasons (Binotto was back in the paddock ๐ )
Binotto lmao, perez lol
Ham DQ! Great news!
#banTom2021
#GetTomGone
lmao just go to a mod and ban ๐
๐คฃ
The Ferrari of Charles Leclerc was damaged, explaining his bad performance today
lol
The rb from ver & checo was manipulated by merc. Explaining the bad result from today
uhuh VER summoned by stewards
What for?
On the screen we can see 2 yellow flags on the left and a green flag on the right ๐ค FIA really needs to improveโฆ theyโre so lost
pretty sure BOT did not slow down as well though
As if the Mercedes needs more pushing ๐
yeah the whole FIA is a farce this year
#ban merc ham mafia
I donโt care about who is advantaged this time.
One time itโs Lewis next time itโs Max. But FIA is so lostโฆ just a joke
To be safe just penalize everyone in top 10 ๐ so itโs easier for Ham
3p penalty fix?
Verstappen, Bottas ans Sainz can now get a penaltyโฆ
Meaning Gasly can potentially start from the front row ๐๐๐
To finish p 10?
Omg
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Verstappen been to stewards, Sainz in there now, what's going to happen?
A bust up , likely nothing though
I've got a horrible feeling that this championship will be decided by dodgy decisions from the FIA
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Bottas 3 place grid pen, Verstappen 5 place pen
Only Bottas and max?
Yeah Sainz already crossed line and went a bit slower apparently
So Lewis still starts P1?
Way to ruin the championship battle ๐ I watched the Q and didn't even notice this situation so it feels harsh.
Yeah, he was well out the way
Horner "rogue Marshall that stuck a flag out" ๐
Omg as much as I want Lewis to win this so that Abu Dhabi is going to determine everything. It would be boring if max canโt fight Lewis on this gp.
Lewis was first on track. If it's Gasly's yellow they mean. And VER was far away from where it happened. Took "ages" for him to get to the sector where the yellow was, and he had a green again in between before it switching to yellow again.
"Grown ups need to make grown up decisions" coming from someone who's acted like a child all season ๐
Who said that?
Horner just said it on Sky.
Lol
If him or Toto talk about acting like grown ups they're both hypocrites
What you expect
Both Horner and Toto have been children this season. But Toto waaay more imo ๐ This season has really shown who he is when he comes under pressure.
Thatโs true but Horner is always the big mouth guy. Toto has been trolling and desperate. So I wouldnโt say anyone is better.
All we can say about this is at least they've been consistent with penalties for waved yellows
Lmao he ainโt getting that seat either way. Gasly ainโt going to let himself be number 2 in RB. He end up in other teams either way.
There's going to more controversy from this weekend
In other hand Gasly donโt care
Someone's going to push someone off and they'll be a penalty
Gasly deserves better than 2 in RB
Blame F1 for wanting to race on this โขโขโขโขโข place
๐ค
Only Hams Merc seat or Ric's Mclaren is the choice for him
Would be brilliant if he went to Merc and became a WC and Max never did ๐
Nah he got alpine too, cโmon alonso is aging guy. And gasly is French.
Russel
No way Alpine is dumb enough to have Alonso for years
Piastri getting Alonsos seat if Alpine's trash next year and Alonso decides to leave. Ocon still got 3 more years and pierre and ocon hate each other lol
Max is still the champion for me this season regardless of how it ends. It would already had been over if his tyre hadn't blown in 1st in Baku and if the Mercs hadn't taken him out in Silverstone and Hungary. He has been the best driver this season without any doubt.
Alonso is even better than Trashcon
Lol
Hopefully Ham wins this season so i can also drop this game
@zenith heath ๐
crashstappen is back boyz, he had to do it
let me check if I can start from p2 or p7 trying to get an impossible pole, I'll go for p7
Merc 3 p....ver 5 p....what a bunch of ๐ฉ holes
Yeah yeah
why no penalty for NOR though ? he improved his lap time
Fia is same lvl as hutch
just inconsistent
Nor wasn't even called? Finished lap earlier maybe?
Facts
Alonso on the podium would make my day. Letโs go Fernando!
Nah nah
Update reverted back
Itโs just P7, if max ends top 4, max still leads or Lewis just lead with couple of points
Itโs still all the way to Abu dhabi
Gasly
โก๏ธ 
Verstappen
โก๏ธ 
๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
Now that is something I would love to see.
Hopefully Hutch does the same and reverts us back to update 13
Ban all
Update 13>update 14
Update 15 is the best
Moderators please
Mute him
Update 15 after season is over
I am trying beta, it says Gasly is in Red Bull idk
Hahah #banIMUW2021 ๐
Yoooo ik im late but gasly p2 thooo
Quite
Gasly guaranteed RBR seat if he takes out HAM
Lmao
Special gift for @ Tom
Donot watch a fia manipulated race!
If i would be rb: crash ham in any lap....slowing down that he has to lap me.....and: adios!
Wish the rulings were as strict the entire season.
Still can't believe that fia gifted win to lulu in silverstone
Thatโs the starting grid?
Yes. Quite a mix
Helmet talking to Pierre and Tosdt "take Ham out at all costs"
ys, this is latest
Alonso P3 oooo
Podium of Alonso, Gasly and Norris please! ๐
Hambotver
Nooo, you can't overtake round here lol
Maybe
I mean we got that straight
How to get P2 in Qatar, get a puncture on your final quali lap
Love Alonso pushing Max wide. You wanted hard racing, you got it ๐
Go switch Gas
Gasly conveniently going wide lol
GAS still needs 25 more pts to get that RBR seat
Ver p2... brilliant... 5 laps and he takes out ham ๐ค๐ค
Lmao alpha tauri giving position to Redbull..
Imma sleep after the pits
Ofc ...all racers vs fake champs
Schumacher in a Merc did to Vettel in a Red Bull 2012 as well to help him win the WC ๐
alonso podium maybe? ๐
Let's hope! But I'm happy if it's GAS or NOR as well.
yeah but it'll be nice for alonso to get another podium under his belt too :)) he's been doing quite well in qatar
Pรฉrezโ overtakes are so sweet ๐คค
I donโt understandโฆ why is it forbidden to wave when you want to defend ?
It can be dangerous on certain tracks, as it may lead into a corner and cause the aggressor to hit you
Ok thanks ! I find the defense of Gasly and Sainz beautiful but ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Beautiful Norris
Gasly ๐ฅฒ
Yup. Tough racing. Super good so far
Track more entertaining than expected so far ๐ฅ
Sounded like it would be Monaco II.
Absolutely. All the talking heads were saying there would be no overtaking
Ham drove to fast 20 sec penalty pls
To me it's a bit odd HAM's car could be legal in Brazil ๐ Rarely do you see such a gap in speed.
All I've learnt from this race so far is we were robbed of a 1st corner battle between Ham and Ver
True. Will be hard for Max to catch him now.
The track is better than expected !
RB should have protested rather than just threatening it lol
Could be also better with 2022 cars
Seems like protesting doesn't help much ๐
i think the top 2 are likely fixed in place unless a wrong pit strat or poor pit times, poor gasly tho falling behind
When ham laps per...he is out
Tbh I think all can happen, the front wing can break at every moment on this track
True but saying "we think you're illegal and will protest in future if we see it again" just makes Merc go "OK we'll put it back to normal then" ๐
yeah and i dont think a new ice would purely can give such a massive performance imo but im not an expert so who am i to say
Both Gasly and that car seems to be better in Q's than in races.
thats truee the front wings seem to be running quite low setups for most cars
It was crazy. Not sure I've ever seen such difference. He overtook one of the Ferraris like it was standing still before he even had DRS.
WELLL i think car wise Q is better, but gasly can pose a threat in races with a better car def
CHECOOOOO
We want ALO podium tho ๐ฟ
i personally want that, even tho i also want checo scoring as high points as possible
Yeah agree, but checo is racing crazy rn, his overtakes are wonderful
Idc about constructors ๐ I just want variation in winners and podiums. Been too much of the same for too many years.
Ham and Max crash together, Alonso P1, Checo P2 and Gasly P3
when maz is p17 ๐ i hope haas can do better w next year's car changes
Ver pitting
Sounds good to me as long as they don't get hurt ๐
bottas really doing good pace :O
Lets throw in some back marker action to slow the leads

to give max drs ๐
F1 has changed Mazepin, heโs becoming a better guy race after race
RB going 2 stop?
All I assume
Ham pitting too
Hamilton felt the tyres were goodโฆ
yooo AHAHAH max still came out in front of alo
Thatโs the second time
Why pit Ham, he could have carried on going
ver aint catching lewis at this rate gg
80km looks so slow in the pits ๐
Hards are the hardest compound of the year today
how many laps has alo put into those softs? i wasnt paying attention
STOP PITTING PรREZ when heโs able to finish the race on Softsโฆโฆโฆ.. omg RedBull
Why is ALO still on track on softs... gonna lose PER now.
21 fast laps with his quali ones?
Time to sleep
If he can go softs to mediums and do 1 stop it'll be quicker
thats actually amazing if alo keeps his tyres tgt the 1 stop will be quite strong
22 laps on Softs for Alonso
Pierre going for fastest lap
Norris still going on softs too
Yeah but not sure PER stops again.. bet ALO goes to hards. Teams like to play it safe.
He needs alot better tyre managenent next season in the game.
100+
Iโll improve my cards then ๐
the softs are losing their advantage look at norris being pressured by bottas , time for a pit off the softs? ๐
alo also losing pace ๐ค
Vettel defense ๐คค
Softs are lasting a lot longer than predicted
Alonso and Vettel make them lasting longer *
Hards for Alonso
And Norris
Wonderful strat from Alpine
How has Gasly ended up 12?!
Exploiting the talent of their driver and pitting at the right time
oo bottas p3 doe
Hasn't pitted yet
yeah trueee
Checo ๐
Bottas going for a one stopper, with the sprint qualis he did last week on Softs, he also deserves a very good tyre management stat next season 
But at what cost, Toto? At what cost...
Leclerc.... he does stuff like this from time to time. "But sweet Leclerc can never do wrong" ๐
Ferrari pit stop ๐
Wonderful pit stop from both Ferrari
Ferrari pitted on same lap without getting a breakdown ๐ฑ
I love Checo so muchโฆ heโs wonderful
Just too inconsistent this season. Great race so far now tho.
THIS DUEL
i feel like...even if bottas pits alo wont catch him ๐ซ
PER with his 55 OT or sth in this game ๐
๐
When he deserves more than 110 ๐ค
Surely more than 115 as well
@hard isle At least 100+ at least. Buff that and tyres and remove alot consistency and some rain ability.
At least 95
Bottas with the tyre management today 
I think the same for Checo. I will adjust my cards but : excellent Overtaking, max tyre management, excellent wet ability, very good defense, bad consistency and Idk for the fuel management
What did Bottas start on? Mediums?
yeah meds
5 laps more & hams car starts to burn
If he can go to lap 37 he can go on softs
kimi 2nd stop alr?
Don't need to go too hard on DEF to not make him too OP ๐ He hasn't been excellent this season overall imo. So can't be too OP.
1 ban more & i race all 10 gp races vs you ๐๐
Ok why not, just found his defense insane in Turkey against Lewis. For fuel I absolutely donโt know ๐ต
maz 0 pits too ๐ค like bottas
SC plz
this is what should happen when we hit 0 tyres ingame
Bottas puncture
Update 13 bottas
BanIMUW2021
Amazing EVERYTHING alway happens for BOT but HAM only has the occasional issue in practices
Pushed tyres to far?
First bot... soon ham ๐๐
It gave me an idea for my suggestions note
front wring change?
7 deadly sins.
Greed. ๐
bot should be in for a 1 stopper? im assuming
No other option now.
Unless they call him in for a fastest lap attempt
Bottas has to be the most unlucky driver this season.
they..might if ver keeps his pace up
Hardly his choice imo
WOW that puncture :shudders:
Merc pushed him far too long
Gasly in pits !
