🏎│real-f1-chat

[ruby seal]

who got the driver of the day?

[heady sonnet]

Again, can we move on, enough of the "X should get a penalty" or "X shouldn't get a penalty". Both Max and Ham perfectly well know what is at stake and are actually racing for it. BUT McLaren WON! They did something this year neither RB nor MB achieved so far.

[opaque crest]

Wouldn't it be great if Ham and Ver carry on taking each other out and Lando wins the WC 😂

[heady sonnet]

P.S. Score is still 2 vs 1 for MB. There should be one more "racing accident" for one of them this year 😉 😄

[lime yoke]

Ricciardo with mclaren only excels in tracks where braking is not that much

[heady sonnet]

Indeed, he still can't get used to it in the McLaren

[lime yoke]

I want the king of the late brakers back

[short cave]

Sochi is sprint again?

[tulip drum]

If it continues this way one of them might not see the end of the season

[lime yoke]

Brazil

[short cave]

Ok

[winter vale]

I hope this spurs McClaren (and by extension Ferrari to compete) into actual competition with RB and MB, I would love to see more competitive cars so it's not always the RB/MB show

[cerulean pollen]

there's plenty of room on the right from lewis, but no room at the left of max verstappen

[lime yoke]

Mclaren wont be back at the top with their customer team status

[cerulean pollen]

cause i can't find footage of it 😂

[opal galleon]

The cam got destroyided

Maxs tyres shreded that place where the cam is

[heady sonnet]

Next year I hope

[long hound]

Cut it he could have avoit and just go wide not turn into lewis

[cerulean pollen]

so no footage?

[long hound]

Bruh when they didn't

[heady sonnet]

Eh, by that extension - Lulu could avoid accident at Silverstone

[long hound]

Finally no more mad luck for George 💯

[cerulean pollen]

because in many crashes we still have onboard footage, even tho the camera is ded

[opal galleon]

prob footage later but the camera above drivers head is destroyed on lewis car

[cerulean pollen]

ok

[long hound]

Ok, lewis got a penallty, now max time👍

[heady sonnet]

Isn’t that footage in the cloud already ?

[cerulean pollen]

has someone f1 tv?

because there u can get footage from him

[opal galleon]

Not sure how it works but I dont think we can get a raw footage now after a incident often we get footage after the inident

[heady sonnet]

He is out of the race already. I would take a 10 second penalty in the race also.

[winter vale]

me too, I am curious to see how the tech changes for next year play out in terms of creating more parity between the teams

[long hound]

He can't get a penallty with seconds, he will gave a penallty grid if he will get one

[heady sonnet]

4+ horse race is always better than a 2 🙂

[long hound]

Horse?

[split ocean]

he meant if they both didn’t retire . . .

[zenith heath]

No penalty for ver, only for ham

[long hound]

"If"

[long hound]

Saving this

[heady sonnet]

I can already foresee the whine after the decision of the stewards 😂

[tulip drum]

Stewards busy deciding now

[short cave]

He could have gone the escape route and the crash would have been avoided

[short cave]

No whining if max did get a penalty

[heady sonnet]

“He could have slowed down and avoided a 51G accident”

Rings a bell? 😂

[zenith heath]

Sure...but the BIG difference.
At silverstone ham could finish.
I am 100% sure that no penalty will be given today

[tulip drum]

Ham and max crash made the race better with them out

[ruby seal]

everyone leave ham n ver see ric n lando

ricciardo got 27 points this weekend

he also got the fastest lap

[tulip drum]

Ham and max battle now getting boring

Wanna see other drivers battle

[long hound]

This are rb fans?

Shame of f1

Oh no they are ferrari fan, anyway still frauds that's what they get for saying these thinks

[short cave]

Shame on him

Report to Twitter and ban him

[mystic aurora]

[tulip drum]

Absolutely disgusting

Won't wish that on any of those drivers

[long hound]

He deleted it hope his acc will get banned

[tulip drum]

How I miss the days of the high pitched engine sounds Era of Michael Schumacher and Jenson button

Think ham will take the championship again

[long hound]

Vb will win in Russia 🇷🇺

[tulip drum]

Norris

[hearty anvil]

Leclerc

[tulip drum]

Perez needs to up his qualifying he is a very good driver

[hearty anvil]

Yep. I know RB sacrificed him to give a tow to Max, but still disappointing

[tulip drum]

Cos I think that 5sec pen was unfair

[hearty anvil]

I didn't see why. What happened

[tulip drum]

He cut the corner over the curb stewards should've just told him to give the spot back to leclerc

[hearty anvil]

Oh I have to see the replay

Also awful race from Stroll. He ruined Seb

[ripe reef]

Anything from the stewards yet?

[cerulean pollen]

so here you can see verstappen and hamilton, there was some space on the right

verstappen pov

and here verstappen was forced to the inside and had no space

[opal galleon]

Max was about to turn actually if he let lewis go first he could have turn to the right instead. but my dude just went thru it like nothing would happen.

[crude kiln]

HAM has always been rough and often ignored drivers on the inside, but if he is ahead you can't judge him too harsh there. Today was more Max's fault, just like Silverstone was more Lewis' fault.

[cerulean pollen]

i can agree

[opal galleon]

well said, also it was unnecessary for max to go inn there when Lewis had better positions and also ahead.

[crude kiln]

Will be interesting to see what the stewards say. Wish we could hear the comm between them & RB & Merc as we can in races 😅 I like that new addition.

[cerulean pollen]

but i'm here only more on max's side because u are all against him, same for me in silverstone i was like thinking more it was a racing incident, while others thought lewis took max out

[crude kiln]

Let's say you like to defend the "bullied" part 😇

[cerulean pollen]

i think only racing incident, like in silverstone lewis got a penalty because he had only a small ammount of damage and max was completely destroyed so that's why

[cerulean pollen]

yeah

but i also think for example that tbe crash in valencia 2012 was more hamilton's fault

[opal galleon]

Ham got penalty for causing colission. So that penalty was fair in silverstone.

[crude kiln]

Sadly they don't take the consequences into the decision. I wish they would tho. A bit more like the punishment should fit the crime.

[crude kiln]

Too soft according to over 80% I saw in polls.

[opal galleon]

Yea I know but, I did some digging and watch Driver69 video. According to the rule book it was tottally fair.

[crude kiln]

Yeah a bit like I wrote in the message above.

[opal galleon]

Because nothing on the rule book in Silverstone then said that it was a violation for Lewis to try that and they were side by side.

[cerulean pollen]

because he forced maldonado off and then he needed to turn the car but then had much of understeer, so that they had a collision

[cerulean pollen]

*driver61

69 means something different

it means nice or seggs

lol

it depends on the situation

[opal galleon]

I am subbed to 300+ ppl so dont remember them all

[cerulean pollen]

lol

i not even 10

but i changed my opinion now

[opal galleon]

oh

[cerulean pollen]

it was clearly bottas' fault

CLEARLY

[opal galleon]

whut

lol

[jaunty cave]

ericsson hit us

[opal galleon]

😆

[opaque crest]

3 place grid penalty for verstappen at next race

[opal galleon]

where does it say that?

[opaque crest]

Just been released by fia

[opal galleon]

whered?

I want to read myself?

[opaque crest]

Not sure it's online yet but sky have just announced it

[opal galleon]

ah ok

[jaunty cave]

yes it‘s comfired

confirmed

[long hound]

Verstappen 3 place grid penallty

But but race incident but lewis fault

[zenith heath]

Ridiculous

[opal galleon]

damn

toto has some real friends at FiA

[crude kiln]

Ironic. HAM benefitting once again from the rule systems.

[long hound]

Deserved

[opal galleon]

sometimes I actually believe Toto is a Mafia Boss but outside Team prinicap

[long hound]

Because he is🐐

[opal galleon]

Michael I send you dm not email this time

I mean max crash himself so he prob got that 10sec penalty if he didnt crash. So I can see this a bit fair. But that penalty was harsh.

[long hound]

Start 20 imo

Or 15 place pen

[river heron]

Wait how do the stewards manage to say that they wasnt alongside each other then the next paragraph admit that they was?

[cerulean pollen]

no valtteri

[cerulean pollen]

uhm micheal?

he always sends him emails😂

[opal galleon]

facts lol

[winter vale]

I think it's pretty much the same thing as a 10 sec penalty, maybe even less than a 10 sec if you compare qualifying times

[opaque crest]

"Started to move alongside however at no point any further forward than just behind front wheel"

[opal galleon]

Yea agree

[cerulean pollen]

this crash reminds me of something

[river heron]

But then if you read the next paragraph they say they was alongside each other 😂

[opaque crest]

Definitely less than 10 sec but anything more would be harsh

[opaque crest]

"Not at all alongside until significantly into turn 1"

Pretty clear to me

[zenith heath]

Merc MAFIA....BIGGEST JOKE EVER

[river heron]

The only time they was alongside each other was when max was off track? Which if you watch he was being pushed off track

But toto really does suck someone’s dick in the fia

[long hound]

Man is mad as hell😭🤣

Be happy that he didn't receive 5 place grid penalty

[river heron]

I mean Lewis has gotten away with so much it’s unreal, merc in general has but ya know Hamilton fans are such jokes it’s unreal

[long hound]

Lance penallty? Or not?

[zenith heath]

Not at all only very clear..
F1 world ruled by merc

[river heron]

^

[zenith heath]

Still not sure

[river heron]

Can we talk about the fact that in 3 races merc have been in 3 crashes and It always seems to benefit Lewis is one way or another

[long hound]

Then say to ferrari and red bull to make the car fast so they can try to fight vs Mercedes 🤣

[opaque crest]

2 benefitted them, this one benefitted red bull

People really don't like successful teams/drivers huh lol

I'm not by any stretch a Hamilton fan but some of these comments are hilarious

[zenith heath]

The poor cars of rb with better drivers are enough to compete vs strong car & bad drivers.
No need to invest

[long hound]

Lewis have more championship than rb and is better than max and Checo combined

[crude kiln]

It's nothing but BS that Max gets a worse penalty than HAM got for Silverstone. But it's the rules that are the issue. Isn't really any milder penalty to give if the incident is judged after the race.

[long hound]

Sprint race in Russia?

[lusty hornet]

No Brazil

[cerulean pollen]

i think if some says: "lewis/max fault" that this is his opinion and i accept it, but if smething like this here happens then i feel like they got an IQ of -420

[long hound]

Man found just 2 comments show what people said for lewis at sliverstone

Or what Ralf shumacher says about hamilton

Or even max wife Kelly

Ralf shumacher said it was the best choice for max to put lewis out of the race 💀

[sturdy mist]

Shut up

[long hound]

To late

[sturdy mist]

Irdc

[long hound]

He still a terrorist in f1😭

[sturdy mist]

Lewis was the one who hospitalised max in Silverstone

Both drivers crash at a low speed corner

And you calling max a terrorist

[long hound]

Just saying max have more crash and collision than lewis

Guess who have more years in f1

[sturdy mist]

Ye but not like lewis did in Silverstone

Btw this was karma

[long hound]

He still dnf bud calm down and got also 3 place grid penallty 🤣

[sturdy mist]

3 place grid penalty is nothing

He can still win

Like it is the worst punishment in f1

[long hound]

Bruh he won't be able to beat the goat of sochi

[sturdy mist]

Well he can still finish ahead of lewis

[long hound]

If it was for lewis 5 place would have been a disgrace and he would have deserved more😭

[long hound]

Not sure about that 🥴

[sturdy mist]

Lol

Are you sure?

[long hound]

Lewis last dnf since 3 years💀

Lewis last dnf in a crash since 5 years

Bruh

🐐 Thinks

[sturdy mist]

Lmao what are you going achieve by telling us that?

[long hound]

That lewis doesn't crash so much like someone else in the grid

[sturdy mist]

We all know about that

Loool

[sturdy mist]

Because he has a strong car

[jaunty cave]

Tbh fault was on both sides. Ham closed ver in 1st corner and 2nd was backwards.

[long hound]

Verstappen also does and have 3 dnf this year

[sturdy mist]

Should be a racing incident

No penalties necessary

[jaunty cave]

Agree

[sturdy mist]

Because of lewis who crashed onto him in Silverstone

[sturdy mist]

I can tell fia support lewis

They also have

Mercedes

[jaunty cave]

If they didnt, they would be called racist which is sad.

[sturdy mist]

Tf???

Lmao

No comment

I'm laughing so hard rn

[long hound]

Rent free

[jaunty cave]

Sad truth brother

[sturdy mist]

Ofc

Btw I'm a max fan

[long hound]

Occon vs Vettel was the same as Lewis vs Lecler no penallty for lecler and penallty for Esteban

[long hound]

We know it you don't have to tell us 🤣😭

[jaunty cave]

No kidding :)

[sturdy mist]

xDDDDDD

[jaunty cave]

I am aswell but its easy to blame Hamilton here... I am just saying that fault was on both drivers and that 3grip penalty is unfair

[sturdy mist]

Fia support Mercedes

They always have

I hope red bull appeal

[opal galleon]

Thats the achivement for sending emails 😄

[sturdy mist]

Lol

Ye

[jaunty cave]

Thats only way.. But i think they dont need to :) they should take that penalty change engine and its free tbh

[sturdy mist]

Ye

[long hound]

Appeal or no he will have a 3 place penallty

Sprint race in Russia?

Or no

[jaunty cave]

That not true if they appeal they can change their decision but i think its no need.

[long hound]

Honest verstappen fan here

[jaunty cave]

I said can, not that they will buddy.

[long hound]

Still, your not saying that it's lewis fault like some verstappen fans did

[jaunty cave]

Yea i can be objective.. Hamilton is **** but there is no need to blame him here he shut him in 1st corner and then Verstappen should just back of... Cuz i think he was going to pit again..

[lusty hornet]

Bruh?

[jaunty cave]

What?

[lusty hornet]

Two claims here both are just wrong firstly implying the stewards are biased which is a strong claim. I agree they are inconsistent but not biased. Secondly if you think that Lewis or his team would play the race card over a track incident you clearly don’t know him or listen to any of his activism. Sounds a tad preachy but I think you are objectively wrong and it’s a massive claim to say the sports stewards aren’t impartial

[jaunty cave]

Whatever ham fan.

[lusty hornet]

[brazen mulch]

Race ban for Verstappen would be appropriate. Off the track, it was never even remotely on. Absolutely reckless. Clearly red mist due to pitstop.

[jaunty cave]

xDDDD another ham fan

[brazen mulch]

Racing fan, it was absurd.

[jaunty cave]

Sure buddy

[brazen mulch]

At least you wear your bias on your sleeve

[crude kiln]

Damn the Ham fans trolling again today 😂😂😂

[brazen mulch]

Haters out in force despite the facts

Stewards were lenient

[crude kiln]

Thread has been mild except for the HAM fans going off when it happened and forgetting Silverstone 😂 What do you mean lenient?

Penalty too harsh compared to Hamilton's, but aren't any milder penalties to give after race, so a sad situation for the sport where omce again HAM benefits.

[tawny sphinx]

What did the stewards say, only just got home, and seen the accident

[brazen mulch]

You still don’t understand Silverstone I see. That’s your problem. Two incidents today, Hamilton took to the sausage kerbs when Max forced him off, Max just kept his boot in and took them both out. Three places is very lenient.

[opal galleon]

what does lenient mean?

[tawny sphinx]

Soft

[merry jolt]

Did you see ham and verstathan crash on tv

[opal galleon]

I think 3 grid is fair enough

[brazen mulch]

Could’ve been more IMHO. It was reckless and his second time today. He’s taking a grid pen for his engine anyway isn’t he so in effect no penalty at all.

[tawny sphinx]

Well I'm a Hamilton fan, but think that they should have given a 5 second penalty next race, same as they gave Hamilton

[crude kiln]

Lol 😂 And here I thought you had learned to be less biased since how much you were proven wrong in the Silverstone incident.

[merry jolt]

Verstathen will have a pen coz ham was on race line

[opal galleon]

As much as I want to be agree with you, what hamilton did in silverstone was alot bigger but got 10sec. That for me was soft. So that max came this time and take out both and give 3 grid penalty is for me fair enough.

[crude kiln]

This. Would had felt more right. Both the rules and budget cap need to be overlooked.

[merry jolt]

New story Hamilton has raced line so the staff and will have the penalty because it goes to the person that doesn’t have the race line

[zenith heath]

Their account grew today plus a nice merc car

[long hound]

Stop saying max deserves a race ban btw 😂

[opal galleon]

To be fair I dont think there is a rule for silverstone incident but for Italian gp yes, afterall it was cleared that hamilton didnt really violate any rules in silverstone other than causing collision. It does not apply the same for max on this gp.

[zenith heath]

3 race bans , no?

🤣

[merry jolt]

He won’t get a ban he’ll get a time pen

[crude kiln]

Didn't violate any rules but got a penalty?🤔 Basically all drivers and former drivers thought Lewis was at fault as well then.

[brazen mulch]

Not going to religitigte Silverstone.

[zenith heath]

Anyway: ham is so bad, they can try to screw up rb all the following races - this year ham has no chance

[brazen mulch]

No, no they didn’t. Lying won’t help you, most drivers said it was a classic racing incident where Max turned in knowing Lewis was there but hoping he wasn’t.

[brazen mulch]

Max takes him out and he’s bad? Wut?

[opal galleon]

all of them said the same because normally in a race you shouldnt be challenging someone in that position but track records says others. Hamilton proved later on the race that it is possible to overtake on that position. Thats why most drivers and former races says it was hamiltons fault because it was just dumb. But hamilton proved others, and other season have shown that it is possible to overtake on that positon same track.

[crude kiln]

I'm not lying and posted like 9 screenshots of ppl saying itvwas HAM's fault 😂 Jesus......

[merry jolt]

Both of them will get away of a way with it because they’ll jeopardise their championship if they do

[zenith heath]

He took max out too... not able to overtake nobody today... poor driving

[brazen mulch]

Yeah lack of understanding here ; Ham set up Max perfectly at Silverstone and it was his only chance to get him. Both knew it hence the outcome.

[opal galleon]

yes

[tawny sphinx]

Not what I saw, including the Jonathan Palmer video someone linked

[crude kiln]

Diffetence was that HAM was much closer to apex when managing the overtakes then. This time he steered into Max and barely made the corner after himself.

[crude kiln]

Yeah it was Palmer against the world basically 😂

[merry jolt]

They can’t jeopardise the championship so FIA will let them both go with it

[tawny sphinx]

You really need to go to Specsavers my friend

[brazen mulch]

All current drivers said classic racing incident, Jolyon Palmer made a video to explain this to you and you still ignore all the evidence

[crude kiln]

Nope. Stop lying.

[opal galleon]

thats a huge statement mate, you can even watch a video from palmer that hamilton lost the apex so and he didnt steer to max stop making huge asumptions

[tawny sphinx]

Well good for Riciardo is what I say, always like the guy

[crude kiln]

Go to bed HAM fans. You act like bandwagon Cityfans in football 😅

[brazen mulch]

Yup ; nice “driver line up” with carefully edited quotes

[merry jolt]

What team are you

[brazen mulch]

He missed the apex, that’s why he got the 10 seconds. Stewards said this.

[tawny sphinx]

Ah, now I see your point:- you're just trolling 🤣 🤣

[brazen mulch]

Generally what Max fans do

[crude kiln]

I said both driverd and FORMER drivers. Find me as many who said it was wrong to give Lewis a penalty. And that acc doesn't lie about what these people say. They are very careful to use true quotes.

[zenith heath]

Leave them. If you are a fan of the most arrogant driver f1 ever saw......

[crude kiln]

Who is proving age is just a number 😎 A missunderstood genius.

[zenith heath]

...u cant beleive ham fans would act normal

[crude kiln]

Ouch.. sounds like I hit a City fan right in the bullseye here 🙈

[tawny sphinx]

Hey Schumacher senior was way more arrogant. Don't even get me started on Alonso, prost and senna

[brazen mulch]

You must be REALLY new to F1

[zenith heath]

I think i could be your grandpa, know f1 since you wasnt born 😉

[brazen mulch]

All the current drivers - including Ricciardo who is selectively quoted there said it was a classic racing incident. So again you’re lying.

[crude kiln]

Jesus 😅

[brazen mulch]

Then why do you know nothing about it or the contestants who have partaken in it?

[long hound]

Better 5 imo

[zenith heath]

I just smile about your ignorance

[tawny sphinx]

lying is a bit harsh. He's just slightly biased, and has selective reading skills

[crude kiln]

Show me one or even two except the Merc ones and George.

[brazen mulch]

Fyi my grandpa died in 1991 having fought into two World Wars so watch your words please

[zenith heath]

Lol.... WITH NO WORD I NAMED YOUR GRANDPA

[crude kiln]

Hahaha I'm so not biased. That's the issue I'm having with HAM fanbase and have called them out for today. It's hilarous 😂

[zenith heath]

This answer shows how stupid you are!

[tawny sphinx]

Oh now you're gonna hate on Russell, even though he's not in the team yet. You're gonna have a brain hemorrhage next year

[brazen mulch]

An apology would be nice

[crude kiln]

And you called ME a troll 😂😂😂

[zenith heath]

For what? Not my fault that ur iq is 0

[tawny sphinx]

But I'm just (like you) making a statement of what I perceive as facts

[crude kiln]

HAM fans really lowering the quality in this thread. Both sad and funny.

[brazen mulch]

Max penalized ; two incidents today, Hamilton avoided Max the first time, Max hit Hamilton the second.

[brazen mulch]

Why the three place penalty then child?

[crude kiln]

Believe that if you haven't gkt anything better when I owned you and posted several quotes saying HAM was to blame in Silverstone after being called a liar

Quite pathetic resorting to calling those statements fake then.

[tawny sphinx]

What happened first time. I missed the highlights

[brazen mulch]

Max squeezed Ham off the track into the second chicane

[brazen mulch]

Seriously how old are you? 😆

[crude kiln]

What are you talking about and why are you calling me child in a demeaning way? You are so defeated you should give this up now. I will soon cuz I don't have too much time.

You are silly 😅

[tawny sphinx]

You really may be slightly bonkers. I doubt you own anything, and it will be a long time before you own me. Nobody called them fake, they said they were selective. Man, take your meds, PLEASE

[crude kiln]

High level debating there. Gj 😂

[zenith heath]

I leave that thread for today. Smelling goat sht here. See u tomorrow

[crude kiln]

I gtg soon too. Losing braincells trying to have serious discussions with people who start calling someone a child and a liar etc 😅

[brazen mulch]

You are a liar. Very selective nonsense ; we had this discussion weeks ago ; Palmer made a 20 minute video to explain why you were wrong.

[crude kiln]

Yes and I said Palmer vs the world and show me more drivers who said it wasn't Lewis fault except the Merc ones, including Merc's Russell.

Had been shown nothing and instead been called a liar and a child 😂 Very mature of you telling ME I must be young in a demeaning way. Ironic.

[brazen mulch]

Danny’s actual quote - ““When you’re in such a high-speed corner and just side-by-side, you’re both going to lose aero, particularly Lewis there with Max kind of in a little bit of dirty air. But I think they were both going in hot.

“Ultimately Lewis went in too hot for the for the given level of grip and that’s where you see [he] just drifted up into Max. Completely unintentional, but just the nature of the aero on these cars and [you] just have to allow a little more, but I’m certainly not going to sit here and judge and say he should have done that or that.”

Both at fault ; as most people saw it and reported it and you can go back and find nearly all current grid drivers saying the same

Also from Danny - “
"Basically, it was a race incident. In that situation I gave a bit more responsibility to Lewis, because I saw that Max left enough space, so I don't think he did anything wrong. “

[crude kiln]

Yes and the reason the whole quote wasn't in my picture was that it wasn't possible to fit it all. But regardless he says it was Lewis' fault. Why are we still debating this?😂 Didn't you agree last time it was more Lewis' fault?

[brazen mulch]

“But I don't want to blame Lewis, it's racing, and those two are fighting for the championship, which is the biggest goal there is in this sport."

[long hound]

Still max fault 3 place pen are fair

[brazen mulch]

Lewis missed the Apex ; hence the 10 seconds. It was a racing incident.

[long hound]

If lewis did that they would made him start from ukraine

[crude kiln]

Yes he is very diplomatic while at the same time saying the fault lied with Lewis. And we established last time it's not judged as a race incident if a penalty is awarded. @brazen mulch

[brazen mulch]

Oh now he’s diplomatic 😆

[crude kiln]

Yep. You know what that means?

[long hound]

I dub that if there was George he would have head problems rn

[brazen mulch]

Yes. It’s what people say when looking for an excuse

[crude kiln]

Haha true if it had been in Sakhir last season 🙈

[brazen mulch]

It was a racing incident that both could have avoided. Today was very poor judgment from Max. Hence the penalties.

[long hound]

I mean he's taller than lewis so the Tyre would have touch George 100%

[crude kiln]

Taking tricks from my book I see 😉 Glad I can teach people to argue better, despite you were wrong in that.

Anyway we already cleared the UK incident and I see no point in discussing that further.

[crude kiln]

But I don't think he sits higher in his Williams than anyone else. It was just that they didn't have time to get the Merc cockpit fully ready last season.

@brazen mulch Ps. I don't dislike you or anyone here! I'm just amazed in how biased some are and like to discuss stuff like that to either help change their point of view, or mine.

But I hope no hard feelings and that you and everyone else will have a great evening/day!

[jaunty cave]

I love this @brazen mulch fella :) he knows he is wrong in so many aspects and he is still going with it :)

[brazen mulch]

Give it up man, your boy got a penalty for reckless driving (arguably twice today). He’s taking an engine penalty next race anyway so no biggy

[brazen mulch]

Very nice of you but you’re insanely biased! I guess we all are a bit which is why we have stewards to make calls. I like Max, he’s the future of F1 but he still makes terrible judgment calls at times

[jaunty cave]

yea i know he will take that penalty i am just so impressed how bais you are.

[brazen mulch]

He got a three place penalty, how am I biased??

[crude kiln]

Unlike you I was able to say it was more Max's fault several times today. And I like Norris even more but said it was his fault VS Perez last race. So IDK how you can claim I'm insainely biased then 😅 But let's drop that for this eve!

[jaunty cave]

Btw we are talking here about 2nd corner but what hamilton did in 1st wasnt clear either.

[jaunty cave]

You are and now please dont talk to me... Thx.

[brazen mulch]

And I’ve said Silverstone Ham missed the Apex. All good.

[brazen mulch]

Run little Dutchie run!!

[jaunty cave]

I dont run i just dont wanna waste time with 0 iq kids...

[opal galleon]

you all 0iq kids now go on guys

[brazen mulch]

Three. Place. Penalty.

[opaque crest]

Jeez guys, calm down.

[jaunty cave]

Just proving my point buddy GJ.

https://prnt.sc/1rz4379 you can make a picture about @brazen mulch 4 of last 7 posts.

[opaque crest]

None of you are doing either fanbases any good 🤦‍♂️

[brazen mulch]

Your point is Verstappen was in the wrong? Apologies then.

I’m pretty sure Max’s fanbase will grow up after he wins the title this year. He’s driving great and got the best car. Just a shame he still resorts to “professional fouls” as Damon Hill called it

[hearty anvil]

Clearly Bottas' fault 😂

[stuck fulcrum]

vettel's fault

5s penalty to him

[jaunty cave]

Woow you ARE stupid... Thats not even possible.

[sturdy moss]

I thought Maldonado did it

[long hound]

Clear of lecler ngl

[opal galleon]

Clearly Ericsson hit them

[brazen mulch]

Penalty. In the wrong. Very simple. Could have seriously hurt someone today.

[steel nexus]

Awesome drive from the McLarens! Well deserved 1-2 for the Papaya cars! And they did it on merit!
The Halo again proving to be a very valuable piece of equipment. And that “incident”... ultimately caused by a slow RB pit stop. Glad both drivers walked away!

[heady sonnet]

Mclaren rocks !

Especially Lando, even if he didn’t get a win

It’s impressive for a 21 year old to be at this level

[lime yoke]

incident wouldnt have happened if merc didnt force FIA to nerf pit stops

but thanks to wheel guy for giving us a exiciting race. Probably one of the netflix pit stop guys who are also responsible for sakhir,monaco and baku pits

[livid hazel]

Can’t believe all the Hamilton fans saying he could have been hurt today.. he shoved max into a wall at 180mph because he “had the inside line and max squeezed him” now max is on the inside he’s the one that’s dangerous? Lewis has lost his edge in wheel to wheel racing because he hasn’t had to fight for anything since 2016.

[languid monolith]

I agree with your statement almost completely but yes he could have been hurt it’s a incident that shouldn’t have happened

[livid hazel]

He could have been hurt I agree with that. But the risk of max getting a serious injury at silverstone was far higher, and Lewis could have pulled out of that move if he wanted to. Just like max could have pulled out of this one. This one was at 1/3 of the speed though not at a flat out corner. The precedent has been set this season already, neither will give an inch. I just hate how hypocritical Mercedes are about it.

[short cave]

Well done f1 stewards!

Yes!!!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-verstappen-handed-three-place-grid-drop-for-sochi-after-crash-with.1DxVWlOKHcI6R086WzbvWI.html

[idle basin]

Seems a bit harsh to me. I’m not partial to either driver really. Seemed like both were at blame there in my opinion

[short cave]

It’s not harsh… if max could continue the race, he would get a 10sec time penalty too… same like Silverstone for ham

[brazen mulch]

Yeah he’s lucky it was 3 and even more lucky it’s irrelevant as he’s taking a new engine anyway 😆

[brazen mulch]

Like Silverstone both could have avoided it. I’d shade this one a bit worse as Max had a completely easy exit path and deliberately chose not to use it. Tactical foul as it was called, knew what he was doing.

Plus as he’d already pushed Hamilton off the road earlier in the race he absolutely knew Hamilton wasn’t going to say “after you”. It was pretty reckless. Two incidents, two drivers knowing the had to make a pass or lose. Tears.

[jaunty cave]

Woooow you will never stop...
Someone have negative covid test
Someone have negative IQ test.

[split ocean]

well , ham didn’t squeeze ver until turn 2 so ver went for it on turn 1 , being on up to temp tires he went for it ( ham just came out of the pits) , ver was half a car behind and didn’t back out , ham was squeezing him but ver didn’t take the escape road like leclerc on lap 33, causing the crash . I would put more blame on verstappen in this case but both caused the accident, more or less a racing incident like silverstone

[short cave]

McLaren are idiots too… they celebrated in the garage when max and Lewis crashed

[zenith heath]

If ham crashes its always a great reason to make a huge party!

🤣

[short cave]

No humanity at all

[brazen mulch]

I mean cold light of day that’s correct ; the oddity with this is that Max had a very easy escape route and chose not to take it. Why we’ll probably never know.

[zenith heath]

Why? Very easy: like that he didnt loose any pts to ham.

[short cave]

We gonna see the same thing in Sochi if they are near each other cos angry max with the penalty

[jaunty cave]

Why would he be angry?

[split ocean]

well , possibly since rb screwed up max’s pit stop and he was pissed (max is known to be a bit hot-headed in his earlier years) . Also, ham leaving space into turn 1 but shutting the door on turn 2 may have made him think he had a chance to overtake there ( just compare to bottas and leclerc’s fight a few laps later , bottas shut the door into turn 1 and leclerc went to the escape road)

[zenith heath]

Or furious ham like in Silverstone 😉

[long hound]

So excuses 😭

[long hound]

The Tyre almost hit hamilton head pal

[normal lake]

The main word in the stewards report is “predominantly”. So, both to blame, just Max more then Lewis.

[sturdy moss]

Because he is max verstappen 🤣

[short cave]

He was pissed with the slow pit stop so the only way not to lose out to ham was to crash him out too

[jaunty cave]

You Know nothing at all.

[jaunty cave]

Same as ham did in Silverstone which ham fans likes to forget

[steady pagoda]

On ne sais plus jouer encore

[sturdy moss]

You know that was a joke right?

🤣

[heady sonnet]

Indeed, and it was the other way around in Silverstone. 3 grid penalty vs 10 seconds in-race

[jaunty cave]

Was it? I can see your flag buddy

[long hound]

So what to you want? They to give a 10 second penallty to verstappen in sochi? Ofc mate he's going to get grid penallty

[sturdy moss]

I’m allowed to be British and still know what a racing incident is

[jaunty cave]

Sure buddy

[sturdy moss]

So why are you so angry? Did it come on since renaming your discord to Verstappen??

[jaunty cave]

Typical brith :))) 1st why would i be mad :) 2nd i didnt renamed anything kiddo.

[zenith heath]

If you ask me...
I want race ban for ham for the next 3 races. Good idea i think

🤣

[sturdy moss]

I want some more McLaren wins

[zenith heath]

I agree! So better 5 races ban of ham that McL got better chances 😁

[long hound]

If you ask me I want to see again max in the wall and lewis or valteri win the rest of the races

[sturdy moss]

And max has to sit in his car facing backwards then it might work out

[zenith heath]

That wont happen 🙄

[zenith heath]

If ham is banned p3 is ok for max 😅

[long hound]

Yeah no problem Mercedes will still win the championship and the goat will mate it 8 if verstappen will stop crashing and being dangerous

[sturdy moss]

I’ve worked it out, everyone should drive a McLaren 🤣

[zenith heath]

As dangerous as ham you mean? 😁

[long hound]

No man lewis had 5 years that didn't dnf in a crash unlike max that have more crash than hamilton in 8 less years

[zenith heath]

Ham is in the age to retire so he should be more clever than a young crazy dutch. This year he is on fight modus

[sturdy moss]

I’m more of a Hamilton Fan than a Max fan but they both have been too aggressive for this own good on a number of occasions this season. Lewis not getting a DNF for so long was because he had been largely unchallenged until this season and got lucky he didn’t follow max into the wall at Silverstone

[long hound]

Yeah he's 36 and still fighting for championship unlike max that can't stop doing mistakes, 90% of his crashes was his fault 💀

[jaunty cave]

Yes max 3 places on grid in sochi

[jaunty cave]

xDDDD this season 1 of 4 and when i consider other seasons it doesnt give me 90%

[opal galleon]

Lewis on the racing line, Max could gone left. As lewis did in lap 1.

Lewis is actually giving some room, but if you look at Max steering wheel. He is still very comitted to try that overtake when he could gone left.

this is essensially the same as Imola. You can clearly see some space for max here. Over to Lewis perspective, Lewis could have been the bad guy and force max off right away. But this was not the case here. Unless what max did in Imola where Max lost the apex so he force Lewis off. But you can see that Lewis was trying to be a bit more fair.

[zenith heath]

Payback....

[crude kiln]

@opal galleon Is anyone debating who was more at fault tho? Was too overambitious by Max.

[zenith heath]

But it was vs ham. So he is 100% excused

😆

[crude kiln]

Yeah well at least it wasn't nearly as dangerous driving as HAM in Silverstone. Quite amazing VER gets a worse penalty cuz they can't give anything milder if determined after the race 😅

But that's how the season has been. Merc has got FIA to overrule the wing and pit stops to make life harder for RB, and got penalties they still benefitted from massively when taking RB's out 2 races in a row to retake the lead in championship.

Quite amazingly stupid actually. And I would had thought the same thing had it been the other way around.

[sturdy moss]

Some people on here have been 🤣 @jaunty cave

[crude kiln]

@sturdy moss Yeah well not gonna read back what he's said but I think you can see a clue in his name why he is biased like most Lewis fans in here if so 😅

[zenith heath]

If Ver crashes with Ham its always the fault of Ham! End of discussion 😁

[jaunty cave]

Gosh kiddo, i said it was maxs fault... Is it hard to scroll back and read some older posts?

[long hound]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-formula1-silverstone-lewis-hamilton-max-verstappen-gif-22456490

[zenith heath]

Update: ham 2 month in carcel cause his dangerous attack last weekend!

[brazen mulch]

See one minute you’re reasonable and then …. i guess we won’t go into the whole issue of the FIA throwing the championship to RBR with the floor changes then 🙄

[brazen mulch]

That picture is exactly the point where Max should have been bailing left. He was over ambitious to even be there at that point he’s clearly got no chance. That was the moment he chose to collide.

[sturdy moss]

I find it odd you’re calling me kiddo…I’m a big boy in my 30’s I know how to tie my own laces and everything

[crude kiln]

I think I was quite reasonable considering all that I said was true 🤔

But you are correct I forgot about the high rake advantage if that's what you meant. I remember hearing about that in the beginning of the season.

Do you know how much of an advantage that is, and why Merc didn't jump on that train if it's so much better?

[hard isle]

https://twitter.com/f1/status/1437442698026258437?s=21

Formula 1 (@F1)

Driving skills 💯
Bottle tricks 🤦‍♂️😂

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We all need a Lando in our life

[sturdy moss]

So the only other team affected was Aston and look how bad they are this year compared to last. Also for one final season of these regulations to totally overhaul your design philosophy wouldn’t have been doable in the budget

[crude kiln]

OK understandable! But don't think it's safe to attribute all of Aston's decline to that particular thing. Are always more factors.

[crude kiln]

Haha have to send that to a friend 😂 But for sure we all need a Lando! He has meant alot for the sport in a short time!

[sturdy moss]

Yea 100% other things there too but it’s a big factor

[hard isle]

That’s so cool to see the current f1 grid, Russell Norris Leclerc Gasly Albon, they all know each other and are so cool, relax and friendly out of the track

[sturdy moss]

And then one day along comes a title battle and ruins all the friendships 🤣

[hard isle]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-sad-sad-face-disney-baby-yoda-gif-16540573

[crude kiln]

Yep and have meant alot for the interest of the sport since the meta before was quite stale and PC outside of the cars. Drivers felt more like robots run by PR teams that didn't wanna mess up.

[sturdy moss]

I think some credit has to go to drive to survive for this too

[hard isle]

In France, F1 got the biggest step up possible thanks to it

But I was talking about the new generation and his superb behaviour

[crude kiln]

Yup that too! But DTS still need the characters as well! The young guns and particularly Lando broke many barriers when it came to give them all a soul outside of the cars as well.

[hard isle]

For instance it’s so cool to see Russell checking the a** of Norris at the end of a race to laugh
So cool to see Gasly and Tsunoda playing football etc…

[sturdy moss]

We still need someone to take kimi’s role of not giving an F 🤣

[sturdy moss]

I enjoyed Leclerc and Sainz playing chess at Spa 🤣 that will be a full episode in next season

[hard isle]

McLaren team probably has sooooo much fun with Lando and Danny behind the scene 😂

I’m also very happy with Bottas smile yesterday 🤗
Wish him to be happy with Alfa Romeo

[sturdy moss]

How big will his smile be if Alfa nail the new cars and merc don’t 🤣

[jaunty cave]

But you cant read.

[brazen mulch]

They can’t ; would require entirely building the car from scratch. It was deliberately done to hobble them and worked nicely ; and yes Aston Martin took the brunt of it as well with their copy approach and without the resources to engineer around it to a degree. Its entirely why AM have struggled.

[crude kiln]

Yeah but that's quite common in F1 if one team is too superior, they try and even the field. And as I said to Deus I don't think that's entirely why AM are struggling, and we can't tell by how much either teams are struggling.

[sturdy moss]

Lots of examples, mass damper on Alonso’s title winning Renaults. F duct, double diffuser on the Brawn… did DAS get banned from last years merc?

Missed out red bull and the underfloor aero from the exhaust and the weird rear brake system on the McLarens in the late 90’s that’s all the ones I can remember on a Monday evening

[crude kiln]

@sturdy moss Yup!

[brazen mulch]

We know the floor change is the primary cause because not much else has changed.

[crude kiln]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.aero-tweaks-new-tyres-and-the-cost-cap-the-2021-f1-rules-and-regulation.r1cq36aI6bvzMeZtiFru3.html

Here is a link with 13 things that changed, and some/all of them can affect how a team performs if they don't get it right. Happens every season that teams are better or worse than last season. RP/Aston Martin is mentioned in the chassi part.

Not saying the floor isn't the primary cause, but just as I said before there can be many factors in a team doing worse.

[brazen mulch]

Yeah but the copying parts was irrelevant; hence moot. The floor was the huge performance changer and it hit Merc and AM in equal measure. One had the resources and the performance in hand to lessen its effect. But its the primary reason RBR can run tiny wings while Merc have to bolt on downforce

Which in turn has people wondering about engine power with Honda vs Merc

Honda has improved, especially the battery side ; but Merc is probably still more powerful and has to be to overcome the added downforce

[steel nexus]

I think the RB is more “draggy” with the hi rake design than the Merc. The RB creates more downforce with the same size wing as the Merc, hence the tiny wing on the RB, at the cost of more drag because of the higher rake.

So Mercedes can run a larger wing and still keep the speed up at the end of the straights, which has been their strength in the past, but RB have been able to minimize that top speed deficit, at least at certain tracks.

[brazen mulch]

The wing is part of it, the floor and the diffuser is what gives the downforce that frees up the ability for a tiny wing. They can seal the ground more effectively than the Merc which lost a lot of that with the floor changes effecting enclosed holes along the floor piece

[steel nexus]

The point I was trying to make was the high rake cars have more drag than the low rake cars. So on a track like Monza, the low rake cars will typically have a higher top speed, whereas tracks like Austria, the top speed advantage is negated.

[zenith heath]

😆

[iron stag]

I guess it’s just unfortunate

[stuck fulcrum]

he's having a good time

outqualifies mr 7 times WC, great sprint race, great comeback from p19

leaving mercedes was the best thing it could happen to him

[iron stag]

Man left Mercedes and starts scoring

Kind note that if Max and Lewis collide in every race hereafter and Bottas gets P3 in every race, he will win the WDC and honestly, I won’t be mad

[long hound]

No😂

[iron stag]

Considering the best chances for every race (ie a driver gets Maximum points every weekend with Max and Lewis not scoring) Russell would miss out on the title by 0.5 point while even Yuki could win the title. That’s the most George Russell luck

[slow forge]

Schumacher's documentary will release under 10 Minutes!

[jaunty cave]

Is he for real? He did look at Hamilton and when he saw how is he trying to revervse, he kept walking... Is this old guy already blind?

And its still better be spoilt then insta crying baby.

[crude kiln]

Yeah I reacted to that as well. That many, including Hamilton, questioned why he didn't check on him when the images clearly shows he looked at HAM who was still trying to get his car going. So he saw right then HAM was OK 😅

[jaunty cave]

Maybe some could say that isnt enought but make f1 cars go on revervse is hard and if he had only half head he wouldnt do it

[crude kiln]

People even made memes of it 😅 Can understand if people missed Max looking at him and seeing him still trying to reverse tho. Was just one quick segment showing it.

[jaunty cave]

Yea i saw that. Those ppl like Stewart should crawl on cave and stay there.

[hearty anvil]

Maybe Max didn't look at Lewis but he may have heard the engine trying to reverse or seen the tyres moving

[crude kiln]

He did look at him.

[lime yoke]

This is how you check up on your rival

[crude kiln]

Haha exactly 😂😂😂

[hearty anvil]

Imagine social media when Schumacher crashed on purpose on his rivals in the 90s or when he parked the car in Monaco

[dry timber]

you realise the internet existed for both those things at the time right 😄

[jaunty cave]

Still good enought in my oppinion

[zenith heath]

All bad histories... all not true...monaco was unlucky & his crashes all caused due to care issues

🤣

[weak fern]

There was this rumor that max didn't check if Lewis was right and everyone went ballistic on this (also because everybody saw the rear tyre on Lewis head but max didn't even know)
Classic media that only wants drama for clicks

[hearty anvil]

But not social media like Twitter, Instagram and so on 😂

[crude kiln]

Some HAM fans went off like crazy in here too 😆

[split ocean]

“You must leave space!”

jkjk

[weak fern]

Here it's a sh it show after every race 😂

If ham wins: max fans are mad
If max wins: ham fans are mad

[split ocean]

This is what happens when you mix mentos and coke

[jaunty cave]

Not in my case. Depend on track, Q if is he 2nd behind him

[crude kiln]

@weak fern I both agree and not, but won't elaborate to try and avoid luring the HAM fans in 🙈

[weak fern]

And here I am as a Ferrari fan that it's sad every race 😂

[zenith heath]

Do they still got a car in f1?

🤣 🤣

[jaunty cave]

Yea they are called Haas now :)

[split ocean]

me chilling as a haas fan 🤣

jkjk

[weak fern]

They crash each other every race, I would be mad as f

[crude kiln]

I don't really have one set team and am more about the drivers where I have like 6 favs 😂

[zenith heath]

Mick will be soon nr1

[crude kiln]

Yeah if he deserves it in the car! Seems like a real nice guy.

[lime yoke]

no way in hell Mick outperforms sharl legreg

[weak fern]

Not sure about that, I'm not convinced that much

[jaunty cave]

Me too but i have only 2 now

[weak fern]

I know he's on a Haas but too many errors

[crude kiln]

Can change over the years. I used to have 2 as well in Alonso and Ricciardo before all these young guns joined and won my appreciation.

[jaunty cave]

I have alo aswell and that obvious one..

[solemn notch]

Hello

[jaunty cave]

Bye

[zenith heath]

Less ham i hope😅😅

[crude kiln]

He will go till he's 40+ unless he gets his 8th or 9th title before that 😅

[zenith heath]

When he gets overlapped by mick next year.... he ll stop 😅

[crude kiln]

Yeah you go place a bet on that 😜

[zenith heath]

Sure... 10 E i can invest on that 🙄

[crude kiln]

Should be good odds after all 😇

[opal galleon]

Anyone watched Schumacher on Netflix yet?

[swift aurora]

No, I just saw the ad for it on Monday and have not had the opportunity. I may watch it later today.

He was my favorite driver back then.

Probably why I dislike Hamilton so much LUL

[weak fern]

Didn't they releas it today?

[sharp basin]

They did, doesn´t mean you can´t watch it though

[crude kiln]

Watched all of Schumacher now and it's worth watching if you like F1. But they should had made it a series instead since it was too jumpy in confusing ways and alot of details lost.

And felt like they made it only for people who already know most things about his career and his accident.

[undone apex]

Dude, I cried at the end of the Schumacher doc. And Mick even if he doesn’t get to 50% of his dad’s level ... will always have my support. #TeamSchumi 4 ever!!!

What Mick has gone through to get to this level is simply beyond words!

[heady sonnet]

I don’t have 6, but I like Lando, Max and Charles. Not particularly in that order 😂 But Lando seems like a genuinely nice guy and he has the speed. Plus he’s 21 ….

[heady sonnet]

It was a nice movie. I like Michael. Needed to be longer though as they were jumping from one thing to the other. Like the first race for Ferrari not managing to finish formation lap showing one car and then next race - totally different one

[crude kiln]

And when he crashed and said he felt his heart stop. And then they just jumped to him racing again. No word what injuries he had or how long he was in hospital etc.

They said they needed to win all races that were left to win the season, and suddenly it was the last race and felt quite unclear if they had made that incredible comeback without showing it, or if it was the next season.

Then after that it was just "then he went on to win 4 more straight titles with Ferrari, bye bye!". And suddenly he retired which looked like it was after the 7th title despite being 2 years later without him winning more titles.

Then he just showed up making a comeback at Merc and then that was over in a sec as well without any info how that went or for how long.

Was alot of stuff like that when they just skipped stuff 😅 Was even hard to know if he was alive at the end when they talked about the accident, and they didn't even say what happened.

[heady sonnet]

Yeah, it’s more for the actual fans that know what went on instead of “new” ones. But that different car really annoyed me 😂

[crude kiln]

Different car?

Ah yes sorry the thing you wrote in previous message 😅

[heady sonnet]

Yeah. One with a raised “nose”, next race low one 😂

[idle basin]

McLaren 2022 WDC and Constructors confirmed

[opal galleon]

how can they give power ranking and how does a system like that work?

[heady sonnet]

Check F1.com it’s based on their performance in the given GP

[zenith heath]

The real question is: why ham is still on p9 & not 22-24 😅😅

[opal galleon]

ok? do I care no

[heady sonnet]

Now give Alfa news already

[iron stag]

Why is this the most unsurprising announcement of the driver market ?

[iron stag]

I guess it will depend on who wins the F2 title. Piastri (on his rookie season) vs Zhou (on his 3rd or smth season)

[weak fern]

Probably waiting if Zhou can get a super license or not

He has 30 millions ready as sponsors

[heady sonnet]

There is still de vries and illot 🙂 But @weak fern is right as Zhou comes with a 30mln sponsorship money. I doubt he’ll get issues with the super license as he’s not in his first year either

[zenith heath]

Perhaps Alfa give a place for grandpa lullu.

[weak fern]

I think illot has already signed for indi

[heady sonnet]

Was just a test no?

Very likely ofc though and I’ve said it before it’s mostly between De Vries and Zhou

With people leaning towards Zhou for the money and the market he’ll open up

[weak fern]

It will be strange for Alfa next year with 2 new drivers and a new car

Tough year ahead

[heady sonnet]

As if this year isn’t haha 😂

Gio could get a chance also?

[weak fern]

That's why I'm even more perplexed

Gio could have a chance if he gets some good results but in the last 2 races he qualified very well but lost it all in the race because of contacts

He also got a few Italians sponsors in

[heady sonnet]

+he’s a Ferrari guy 😉

But still - I think it’s time for someone new

[weak fern]

Sadly he was never consistently delivering and the car was never that good

He was on par with end of career Rai but never outclassed him

[crude kiln]

Zhou would be cool! I haven't seen him race myself tho 😅 But seen many say he is promising + he brings cash + China is a big market.

I feel GIO has had his shot.

Failed to leave a mark.

[iron stag]

I’m pretty sure that Illott isn’t gonna come in. He’s prolly going to Indy. It’s very tight between Piastri and Zhou but Zhou has the advantage of the money. Tbh, I would take a guy who is leading the F2 WDC in his rookie season rather than someone who’s losing to a rookie in his 3rd season

[zenith heath]

If ham would make space another young talent could joyn f1.

[crude kiln]

HAM will retire 2027.

[zenith heath]

Brilliant so i donot have to select another driver to smash 💩 on him

[jaunty cave]

🚨FREE WALLPAPERS🚨

Dm me if you want me to make one customized according to you.

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[iron stag]

To be honest, he will prolly retire 2023. Man said he didn’t wanna race at 40 like some rookies do

[jaunty cave]

?

[jaunty cave]

[balmy sparrow]

[normal sedge]

[jaunty cave]

[zenith heath]

Rain all the weekend.... great! Ham will not finish lap 10 in race 🤣🤣

[opal galleon]

what kind of statement is this lol

[zenith heath]

My preview to a fantastic race without ham 🤣🤣

[opal galleon]

mhm idk its boring when max and ham wins. But if it was like there needed to fight for positsions during the race then it would be good race. Even if Ham is gonna be gone then Max is just going to win all the time so.

[ebon cloud]

Hello Guys Im New Her

[opal galleon]

welcome

[ebon cloud]

Thanks

[sturdy mist]

Welcome! If you need any help or got any questions feel free to DM me.

[swift mauve]

Hamilton is good in the rain

Especially when he won't have Verstappen chasing him

regardless - I'm not a Hamilton fan

but I think RedBull will take their Engine penalty in Sochi

[sturdy mist]

Same

I'm a verstappen fan

[swift mauve]

Lando fan here

But I'd prefer Verstappen to win championship over Hamilton

Lewis feels way to priviliged

[opal galleon]

I think Mercedes wins this time, unless other teams like Ferrari and mclaren come. Since Sotchi is a track where Mercedes’ car is suited for.

Btw if I don’t remember wrong I don’t think Red Bull can take that engine penalty with max

Max got 3 grid penalty if I don’t remember wrong he can’t serve both penalty at 1 Grand Prix, was it that you have to serve them separately

[steel nexus]

I'm pretty sure they can take the penalties at the same time... so they could change the PU and he can serve his 3 place... start from last, hope for the best!

[opal galleon]

Yea but the thing I am thinking about is changing parts is not the same as been given penalty for other reason. If you get penalty for changing multiple parts then it’s understandable because it applies to same thing. Changing parts = penalty then serving another penalty ain’t the same thing.

[neat vigil]

I think it's gonna rain on Sat at sochi, maybe a wet track for the race

[opal galleon]

It’s says rain all weekend

[neat vigil]

And in the wet I think max could probably get a podium even if he starts last

Bc wet races are just super unpredictable

[opal galleon]

Really comes down to how good the engine he is most likely switching is. Also you can overtake in Sotchi but I haven’t really seen Red Bull do super compared to Mercedes’ that has been winning on the track many times past years.

[neat vigil]

I'm thinkin of 2019 german gp, Bottas went into the wall and Ham spun out twice I think

That was so sad for Mercedes at their home gp

[steel nexus]

Well, the 3 place penalty is applied first, then, if they decide to take on a new PU, then the appropriate penalty will be applied on top of that... so essentially starting the race from the pit lane.
Take for example, He qualifies P1 but crashes and needs to replace the gearbox... so before the crash, he is starting P4. But then gearbox change, so he drops to the back of the grid.

Aside from being excluded from a race, starting from pit lane I think is the furthest back you can start from

[opal galleon]

Yeah but the teams was a bit to blame for that GP, Bottas lost control end of that, Hamilton lost control but saved the car, team used 1min pit, and bad call. They switched to slicks way to early.

[opal galleon]

If they are going to take that penalty then I do believe it’s going to be on the pit start as you say. But I am not sure what the rules says.

[swift mauve]

They can take PU penalty alongside the 3 place grid

[weak fern]

If they change PU they start at the back of the grid like bottas at Monza

[zenith heath]

Still easy to get that ham who cannot handle 10 laps in wet 😁

[weak fern]

And here is the god of wet races 😂

[short cave]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.ferrari-to-debut-new-engine-in-russia-forcing-leclerc-to-start-from-back-of.NsUPIl5I66ZIol5eNMGKE.html?fbclid=IwAR1a-Lz_380e1-oOYZ-dmPrFLcRXIcrvfnZkh0C5DDB8ieXY6yuvQU_E6SY

[short cave]

Ferrari gg cos leclerc starting from back

[opal galleon]

I heard ooof

[crude kiln]

So if Max also opts to change stuff so he starts at the back - who of them starts last?🤔

[short cave]

Ferrari… pit lane

[weak fern]

Again, if you change engine or everything you start from grid

Only if you don't respect curfew you start from pitlane

After quali they have a limited time to do repairs or setup changes, after that the cars are "frozen"

If they crash in quali is very likely they break this rule causing them to start from pitlane

Often if they crash they then need to change parts causing the confusion of the rules

An example was 2 weeks ago when bottas changed the PU after sprint quali and started on Sunday race last on the grid

[jaunty cave]

Oh no... will be rain... 3 days hamilullu crying
"Its to wet, no grip"
"I cant see nothing its to dangerous"

[zenith oriole]

so no race again like spa 🤣

[idle basin]

Likely lol

[hard isle]

Just the Alfa Romeo seat now 👀 who will take it ?

[idle basin]

Me

[zenith heath]

If the driver stats should be the same as the car stats: whining lullu would be the perfect match 😁

[short cave]

Alfa Romeo I thought confirmed gio and Bottas?

[weak fern]

Only bottas confirmed

[short cave]

Oh ok

[hard isle]

You don’t like Hamilton ?

[latent basin]

No idea how much Russian oligarch money Mazepin is bringing to Haas, but it must be an absolute fortune for him to keep a seat. Absolutely nowhere near being F1 driver standard.

[zenith heath]

Cant see & smell him

[hard isle]

You can say it for Schumacher too

Even Tsunoda is in doubt then

[short cave]

Mercedes ham rus
Red Bull ver per
McClaren Ric Nor
Ferrari Lec Sai
Aston Vet Str
Haas Msc Maz
Alfa Bot ???
Williams Lat Alb
Alpine Alo Ocon
Alpha Tauri Gas Tsu

Correct me if I am wrong

[weak fern]

Correct

[zenith heath]

Give him 1 year more & a better car. Its the future champion.

[hard isle]

I hope so, but his season so far is not far better than Mazepin one tbf

[zenith heath]

Always in front of maz...

[short cave]

Seems like it’s possible that ver can take a new PU and start from the back on top of the 3 grid pen

Think he should considering his winning chances is almost 0 this weekend

[weak fern]

And also ham will need to do the same in another GP

[short cave]

Wonder if Mercedes lock out front row and Bottas on pole, will we hear valterri, it’s James… pls let ham by… we need to maximise his points haul

[zenith heath]

Ham will q max p5...

[short cave]

Why?

[zenith heath]

Changing weather. Ham is not able to adapt. He will cry afterwards again

[neat vigil]

I think Gasly should get another go at RBR next season

He's actually doing so well, I think the team put way too much pressure on him when he was last at RBR

[opal galleon]

Gasly is being wasted he needs to go to other team

[neat vigil]

He loves RBR though, it's his dream to race for that team so I doubt he'll go elsewhere

[idle basin]

I'm sure if Mercedes, Ferrari, or Mclaren offered him a seat. He'd leave Red Bull in a heartbeat

[zenith heath]

If merc would offer him a seat we would get rid of ham. A dream.

[neat vigil]

I think if Ham wins this year he might retire with most driver championships

[keen stump]

Why? Just because he now finally has strong competition? I believe he has more fight than that

[zenith heath]

Before ham get champ this season maz will do 3 poles in a row

[neat vigil]

I mean he'll be the "Goat" for at least 7-8 years unless Vettel starts winning again

And I mean, why continue to maybe wash up and tarnish legacy when you can retire on a high

Like Rosberg won once and left

[keen stump]

But look at vettel and alonso

They are no longer in prime but still race for a long time

[zenith heath]

The difference is that vet & alo are good drivers

[keen stump]

Lmao nice edit

Whether you like him or not, I don't think it's fair to totally disrespect him as a driver

[crude kiln]

@keen stump Don't listen to @zenith heath . He's just trolling 😅

[zenith heath]

He has a good car

[keen stump]

Yeah ik

I see his chatter every day

[zenith heath]

About ham i could chat years....
Hopefully next season i dont have to.

[crude kiln]

Hopefully next year RUS can give him an actual challenge and maybe even a Ricciardo vs Vettel 2014.

[neat vigil]

I mean they're getting like 20m/yr each I think, Hamilton could get a contract like that but idk if he would want it

Probably made enough money lol

[zenith heath]

Rus will show to that amateur how fast merc in reality is

[neat vigil]

I'm more looking forward to Rus vs Max

Vs Lando vs Leclerc vs Sainz

[zenith heath]

Max is a good driver, but not the most clever one...

[crude kiln]

I just hope more cars are more even so we see even more different winners and what difference the actual drivers do, more than today.

[crude kiln]

Max fastest for sure imo.

[neat vigil]

I'm looking forward to seeing mercedes next season too because they blamed lack of progress on Covid, I think RBR was less effected

So surprising how max always does better than his teammate tho

Like Ricciardo was always besting his teammates and Max even won against him consistently

[crude kiln]

And challenged the Mercs at times with a much worse car and a teammate being nowhere near. Max the fastest but not always the smartest as Tom said.

[neat vigil]

He's got a temper for sure, last race he was furious lol

[crude kiln]

He has matured but has a bit to go. Been unlucky at times as well with technical DNF's and also this season with the blown tyre in Baku and HAM taking him out in UK. 50p gone there alone

[neat vigil]

I think he saw hamilton come out of the pit next to him and thought all his christmasses came at once haha

[crude kiln]

Yeah he was pissed there for sure 😆

[zenith heath]

Smart is not necesarry. But if you crash vs ham you need to make sure that hams race is finished meanwhile you can go on to receive a 5 sec penalty😁

[short cave]

I hoping ham can win his 8th championship this year then he retire

Then don’t need watch f1 anymore

[hard isle]

@crude kiln hello mate 👋 what’s your bet for the last seat available ?

[crude kiln]

Not sure, but wouldn't surprise me if they were boring and kept GIO another season 🙈

[hard isle]

The line up is actually so similar to the current one 😭 I wanted original stuff for the whole new 2022 F1

[crude kiln]

Cash is king. Otherwise there probably would had been some more changes.

[zenith heath]

Yes. A shame that papa lullu every year pumps billions to merc to hold his son as driver😁

[hard isle]

This guy still a 7 time world champion tho 👀

[crude kiln]

Hahahah 😂

[crude kiln]

Tom is just trolling 😇

[zenith heath]

I get world champ aswell running a merc vs 22 fiat 500 & a teammate who is not allowed to overtake

[crude kiln]

What season? -69?

[zenith heath]

Edited... o is out e is in

🤣

[crude kiln]

Ouch I missed that 😆 But still thought I was funny 😇

[zenith heath]

Stop trolling now, its a serious conversation

[neat vigil]

It's crazy to me how hamilton was allowed to keep that win where he spun max out tho

[zenith heath]

🤣

[hard isle]

Don’t worry mate
Hamilton will become the Bottas for Russell 😎

[neat vigil]

He'd retire before that happens

[hard isle]

I had to calm down Olivia who’s a big fan of lulu

[zenith heath]

Yeah...any other driver would have gone 6 month in jail

[hard isle]

Russell is inevitable

[neat vigil]

LOL

[crude kiln]

Suppose marriage is also about accepting the faults in our partners 😇😆

[hard isle]

She does not understand why I scream so much when VAR refuses a goal to HeungMin Son, so 👀

[crude kiln]

Her fault once again 😇

[hard isle]

Her high reliability repairs my broken heart ❤️‍🩹

Romantic bruh

[hard isle]

Giovinazzi 😪

[short cave]

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/formula-1/russian-grand-prix/2021/russian-grand-prix-valtteri-bottas-claims-that-he-wasn-t-allowed-to-go-for-victory-earlier-in-the-fo_sto8555936/story.shtml

Ver will be 20th lec 19th

[zenith heath]

Easy podium for ver

[fresh acorn]

[steel nexus]

Thought his Jack man looked like Max

[short cave]

Will that be a pen for ham?

[hard isle]

Why ? 😂

Stop this hate

[zenith heath]

Yes! 3 races out of pit!

[heady sonnet]

Dangerous driving in pit. Don’t quote me on it but I think this season we had something.

P.s. where are ham fans about endangering someone’s life now and how he’s a terrorist?

[opal galleon]

Lance did the same thing last year in a race. Or very similar, so this is nothing. Dont understand why people make a huge stuff out of it.

[zenith heath]

Ham deserve a hard penalty! 😁

[opal galleon]

if you say so mate xD

[heady sonnet]

It’s to show that there is quite some bias when either Ham or Max does something - one thing leads to “omg he’s a terrorist, he should be punished” when someone is in the receiving end and “it’s nothing” when he’s the one responsible 🙂 Goes both ways

[zenith heath]

Ham has to be punished every time when he enters his car 😁

[chrome otter]

Well hamilton sure did not get punished for him crashing max with 51G into copse corner. 10 second was a joke when you have a car that is always atleast half a minute away from the others.

[crude kiln]

Yep they really should oversee the penalties and the cost cap. And RB got engine penalties cuz of this, so they should oversee the engine rules if someone else crashes you. We want to see the titles get determined through racing, not stupid rules. Imo.

[zenith heath]

Ham should be reset to f3!

[chrome otter]

Yes so verstappen gets penalized for crashen because of someelse. Not scoring points and then again for changing parts that is not his fault. But oh well. Mercedes has the fia in his pocket anyways.

[crude kiln]

Yep it's messed up how massively Merc benefited from crashing the RB's 2 races in a row. So the penalty system needs to be overlooked.

[chrome otter]

Well they aint going to that since its benefitting them so why chance a winning formula

[short cave]

Wet qualifying expected tonight

Race 1 postponed for f2

[small path]

Jeez

Not l another spaa

I stayed up so late to be disappointed

[zenith heath]

Great. Ham crashing in q1

[short cave]

I got a feeling will be another spa

[small path]

At least if wont be another Italy

[short cave]

Then ver penalty is nothing

If tmr also same conditions

Free engine penalty

[small path]

Who do u go for @short cave

[short cave]

Ham

[small path]

Lemme guess ur in Australia

[short cave]

Nope I am from sg

[small path]

Sg?

[short cave]

Singapore

[small path]

Ooooh okay

[short cave]

🇸🇬

[small path]

🇦🇺🇿🇼

[short cave]

[small path]

I don’t like tiki he drags the team down

[short cave]

What’s the other flag beside Australia

[small path]

Zimbabwe

[short cave]

Oh ok

[small path]

I was born there

[short cave]

👍🏻

[small path]

But I am Australian citizen

They should have put albon

Not bloody sir crashesalot

[short cave]

Albon chose 🇱🇦

That’s Thailand flag right?

[small path]

Yeah

I get why people go to their roots when choosing nationality

But without Britain albon wouldn’t be in f1

[balmy sparrow]

kinda true... but the guy is a good driver...

[balmy sparrow]

oops

shite balls

what about qualifying?

[short cave]

Practice 3 abandoned

[balmy sparrow]

look above

[short cave]

Means f3 will be abandoned too

Repeat of spa again 🤦🏻‍♂️

[mystic aurora]

the intention is still to run qualifying later on once this heavy band of rain passes

[short cave]

If the race tmr cannot go ahead same conditions, what will happen to max grid penalty?

[balmy sparrow]

it will move onto next race I suppose

[opal galleon]

if it turns out that it counts as a race even if they didnt race. Then its going to be gone. If the Grand Prix get cancelled prob the penalty is still around next time.

[zenith heath]

Jesus Christ.
In former times football player did matches at 45 degrees... today starting 25 degrees we need special drink breaks & formula 1 only sarts under perfect conditions....

[short cave]

So means I have to pray that it’s too wet tmr to even race 2 laps

I think f1 next year need to avoid all those weeks with potential rainfall

[opal galleon]

its 3 laps btw, its says on the radar that its going to rain heavily

[opal galleon]

not possible

[short cave]

Spa was 2 laps isn’t it?

[opal galleon]

nope

[short cave]

Oh ok

[opal galleon]

They took 1 lap at the start 2 lap behind car, 3

[short cave]

At least 2 laps

[opal galleon]

nope 3

[short cave]

Ok

Haiz… another f1 weekend potentially gone

[opal galleon]

cancelling a Grand Prix is almost impossible, because this is about logistics, money, people moving to country to country. Too much stuff @short cave

[mystic aurora]

Yup. Looks just fine 😉

[opal galleon]

LOL

Cant they just race in the nights 😄

[short cave]

Cos fp3 is cancelled

[short cave]

The only way is to run qualifying on sun

[balmy sparrow]

oh dear lord... that's not a pleasant site...

[zenith heath]

No prob for real racers... but no one wanna here crying lullu all the time😁

[short cave]

If sun morning is still raining then the whole gp is gone

[opal galleon]

Nah thats not possible because of logistics

[short cave]

They did before

[balmy sparrow]

omgggg yesss

[short cave]

Can’t remember when though

[opal galleon]

thats when nothing is on schedule

[mystic aurora]

Japan?

[balmy sparrow]

silverstone?

[opal galleon]

They gotta go to Turkey, thats long way. If they had some free days then possible.

[short cave]

I remember got once that qualifying on sun morning then afternoon race

[opal galleon]

thats possible too

[short cave]

This week is quite packed cos got f2 and f3

[short cave]

That’s what I meant

[opal galleon]

The problem is, there might be other people that need to use the track too.

[mystic aurora]

They would cancel the support races to do this.

[short cave]

What will happen if qualifying cannot be even run on Sun morning? Is there any instances where the race is on Monday?

[opal galleon]

It’s possible if everything goes to plan, but it’s quite possible to do things tomorrow. Since the weather is way better tomorrow.

[latent basin]

Belgium says hi. Three parade laps is not a Grand Prix

[latent basin]

Yeah, driving around in a big box of petrol and electricity with no Faraday cage in a lightning storm is perfectly safe 🤣

[zenith heath]

You have to arrive to your work aswell... storm, snow, ice....

[latent basin]

So why do they cancel flights or ferry crossings in bad weather? People have got to get to places, right?

[zenith heath]

They do in extreme situations. Not only because ham is not able to finish a lap due to 2 drops of rain 😁

[short cave]

If F3 race 2 can go ahead then we might see qualifying

[short cave]

Postponed to tmr morning

[slow yew]

Sochi is a street circuit right.

?

[opal galleon]

some of it is, so its a mix

[slow yew]

Is it posibble to do night race there?

[short cave]

Qualifying will be underway

[iron stag]

Ig it doesn’t have floodlights and also the weather won’t be good, ,might be too cold for tyres or smth.

Tbf, Igora Drive would be a night race confirmed

[opal galleon]

What happening to max??

New engine problem?

[mystic aurora]

He cant change his position running in Q today.

[short cave]

In that case his grid penalty should be brought forward to next race

Since he didn’t do qualifying

[opal galleon]

Ain’t he starting P14?

[short cave]

P20

[opal galleon]

Well rip

It’s harder to overtake from the back with wet than none wet. All advantage on the car is gone.

[short cave]

Provided tmr also wet

Ver has no sportsmanship… look at leclerc he got penalty too but still did qualifying

[opal galleon]

I think they rather use the time to manage the car

[undone apex]

Mazepin nearly 4 seconds behind MSC at the end of Q1 👏

[opal galleon]

Lord mazepin ahead of Max 😱😱

[opaque crest]

I thought there was a penalty for not setting a time in qualifying?

Wasn't it something like have to start from the pitlane?

Just found it, only applies to dry sessions, 107% rule

[opal galleon]

If the race is like Belgium or it gets cancelled then rip no points

[opaque crest]

Weather is meant to get better now though so race should be fine

Be interesting to see how easy it is to get through the field

Max should easily get a top 10 finish

[crude kiln]

Why should he? Only reasons drivers would in this scenario would be if they needed practice or data.

And that decison was most likely just as much or more the team's.

[opal galleon]

Not behind lord mazepin

[short cave]

But leclerc still set timings

[opaque crest]

😂 Max will probably take himself out trying to get past him

[crude kiln]

Mazepin missed 107% by 0,3s despite Q'ing 🙈

[opal galleon]

Or other way around, Mazespin lose control to max 😂

[opaque crest]

I mean it it happens, it would be hilarious

[zenith heath]

Ifci would be max: q 1 crashing with ham... both starting out of pits

🤣

[crude kiln]

Yes and that's up to him. Maybe he needed wet practice or/and data.

Don't see why you need to sh*t on Max every chance you don't even get.

[opaque crest]

Max and Ham fanboys ruining the sport, neither can accept how good the other driver is and find any chance they get to sh*t on each other

[opal galleon]

So much bias

[crude kiln]

Yeah it lowers the quality of the thread(s) far too much sadly.

Would be nice if PER could have a good Q and race. Feels like it's been a while... think we have to expect Merc 1-2 but maybe PER & NOR fighting about 3rd would be fun.

[opal galleon]

Stroll for third 🙂

[crude kiln]

Yeah would be in rain if that would happen 😆 He good in rain. But not good enough in dry imo.

[mystic aurora]

[opaque crest]

Reckon anyone will risk slicks in Q3?

[crude kiln]

Possible. Looks quite dry 👀

[opaque crest]

Rather PER than Stroll was up there

[opal galleon]

That young Alonso looks good today

[mystic aurora]

Yup not bad for a new guy 😉

[short cave]

Lat also penalty

So who will be last?

[crude kiln]

Track looks dry so would be cool if someone went on slicks at the end and shocked 😆

Max will start last I think since he has 3 place grid pen as well.

[opaque crest]

Max last, LEC in front and then Latifi in front of both

[short cave]

So far only rus on mediums

[opaque crest]

Russel, Stroll, Ric or Ocon to go on slicks and give it a go, nothing to lose for those guys

[crude kiln]

No RUS is on Inters, but told the team to prepare slicks

[short cave]

Oh I thought I saw yellow

Stroll on pole 😂

[crude kiln]

Yesh the tyre warmers were yellow. Often confuses me 😆

[short cave]

I think Bottas will have team orders to slow down if he happen to be faster than ham

[opaque crest]

All going to end up on slicks based on 1st laps

[short cave]

No grip on slicks

[crude kiln]

Boring that everyone seems to go slicks at the end. Would had been more fun if only a few did.

[opal galleon]

Ez

[opaque crest]

Yeah Russell is sliding quite a bit

[short cave]

Rus struggling with slicks

[crude kiln]

Almost 4 min left tho...

[opaque crest]

Merc could end up way down the grid lol

[short cave]

I think if 3/4th go slicks then Mercedes should do

[opal galleon]

Ham touch the wall

[crude kiln]

Nah 😅 Easy 1-2

[short cave]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[opaque crest]

New wing for HAM, could be interesting

[short cave]

Sochi pit lane is so tight

[lime yoke]

damn HAM washed

covid from met gala

[opal galleon]

Lol

[crude kiln]

Plz no red flag

[short cave]

He keep making mistakes

[opal galleon]

Lando for pole???

Ez

[opaque crest]

No ones going quicker on softs atm

[crude kiln]

Sainz is

RIC too now 1st sector

[opaque crest]

My feed behind yours, just got that now lol

[crude kiln]

Oh sorry!

[opaque crest]

Nah no worries, only quali lol

[opal galleon]

Sainz omg

Img

I said it!!!! Lando for pole!!!

[opaque crest]

That wall hit going to cost Merc front row

[lime yoke]

HOLY SHITE

[short cave]

Omg

[opal galleon]

George and lando omg!!!

[lime yoke]

HOLY SHITE!!!!!

[short cave]

F**** Lando

[lime yoke]

COVID HAM

[barren sonnet]

LANDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lime yoke]

perez still trash

[opaque crest]

Lando, Sainz, Russel, that would be a brill podium tomorrow!

[lime yoke]

please win sainz

[short cave]

If he didn’t hit the wall, ham would be pole

[crude kiln]

Not sure I've ever been more wrong 😂

[short cave]

Ham always fail to take advantage of max’s misfortunes

[opaque crest]

Team orders for Russell to let Ham past early on?

[barren sonnet]

No ?