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george isnt gonna put up much of a fight against ham
At the same time easier to overtake if dry - Spa usually has the most overtakes on the calendar - Norris starts 15th ๐ Would be cool to see him do a comeback! And easier if dry.
Perez in wall on lap to grid
Yeah just saw that. Rain and Perez crashed on warm up..
oof perez out
Zzz... and might not even be a standing start...
Because he can't ๐
Rip perez
its in the contract
CRY
Yes
No soft tyres for this week๐
Yes but rn it's even worse
It's still raining all with fullwet
Will be so difficult I hope for not a horror crash๐
Definitely
rolling start today?
I heard them say yes a safety car start
damn
The one time I cant watch is the time where things happens -.-
Watch it later
Ye, good idea but all the hype is then gone D:
if postponed can per back to race?
Mazepin for the lead at the 1st corrner
I swear at least 4 drivers will go out at the start
This guy๐คฃ
Will start even more late in these conditions I would be scared going out of the house not racing ๐ญ๐คฃ
Holly...
Howmany DNF we betting today? I say at least 4 ๐
Going to blame hamilton I guess?
4 at the 1st lap you mean?
To blame hamilton for everything is always .....
....RIGHT! ๐
no
Ofc
Impossibile to race at this conditions
Easy for verstappen to say itโs not bad when heโs up front. Heโs ready to race lol
No call made yet. But they said 2 hour countdown hasnโt started since race officially hasnโt started
He was going to spin somewhere btw
In 15 min will start raining even more said the commentary
So probably not in the next 40 min
They will wait 30 min or 1H
Maybe even 3
2*
If will rain again they will not race today
They will start tomorrow
If they will cancel it
I dont even think we will race today.
is start tomorrow can per back?
I need a race today๐ซ
Dunno
Who doesn't we have been waiting for 3 weeks๐
Yes
Ok
can PER stop embarrassing himself for once ?
PER should consider taking a sabbatical year
Red Bull definitely making case to fia for him to come back
Can Perez start again?
Yes fia give him permission
After start can be red flags again๐
Start from pit lane or his qualifying spot?
Ofc if someone crash
Start from the pit
Rip perez they didn't allow him to start again the race
So dns for perez official
Waterpools in the track
Stewards just said Perez can start from pit lane if car gets fixed. Also a timed race with a 3 hour race window starting when they began behind safety car
Rip race for today
imagine if there is a monday race
nah race officially started and has to finish at 18h00
we will see 1/2 laps behind SC then half points assigned
yh the 3 hour counter started
so the race started at 15h, but PER whose car was not ready at 15h can start
CLOWNS
nobody knows
what do u think?
hmm
who is ur fav driver?
I am Ferrari fan, son LEC/SAI, but VER is impressive (or PER is really bad)
Rain
Heavy?
Nah
i am a mclaren fan NOR/RIC n my fav driver is ric bobby
I loved RIC at RB, now he's really struggling
yeah but he impressed at qualiffying
i think its a podium
lewis n russel dont get very fast starts but ric does so i think at turn 1 he will be P2
I think it's going to be a rolling start
Maylander wins the Belgian GP ๐
I guess if we hadn't Zandvoort next week they could delay the race to tomorrow
yes
Safety car won
There is nothing to be excited for either way on Zandvort expect for Lewis Hamilton booing by dutch people
Yeah he drives the SC haha
Oh my bad I didn't know๐
Now it's official that the race is postponed?
Toto on the call ๐
But this is the first Dutch GP in years. I don't know the track tbh
Just from playing F1 Clash lol
It used to be a bad track
Thats one of the reason why they stopped using it
Now that the layout got some upgrades it might be Formula 1 worthy
When was the last race at the Netherland gp?
The commentators said that the access to Zandvoort were awful
diffcult
Dont remember but I think it was pass 2010
Wow
F1 clash, let's add it to the game๐คฃ
Nope it was 1985
Barcelona start in 17 min
Maddd
yea thats the match imma watch
F1 is my priority hahah
Yea same
This is usually the time when a grand prix ends, so let's pretend that we had a very entertaining race where Russell managed to win.
Same but if the race will not restart then
Me neither ๐คฃ
Max was not even born god damn
Holland is disappointing in every sport ๐
Most of the youngsters was not even born and Lewis was just 1years old
facts
Half of the grid wasn't born
expect Barca players dutch ๐
Depay + De jong
I was talking in general like they are not prepared in the euros I thought they would go to the final then they lost vs cezch republic
They lost Koeman
When Koeman left they got down
pls start the race
It's impossible
1:10H they have to finish at 6:00Pm
P1 Max P2 George and P3 Ricciardo
nooo
Sad lewis noises
Hamilton messes up ๐
๐ฅฒ ๐ฅฒ ๐ฅฒ
It rain more at this track than at every other track even mixed
Actually I think they will start behind SC and do 2 or 3 laps to get points
imagine paying millions to fix the damage from the flods 3 months ago then not fulfilling the race
So possible podium for russel!
Btw in a race you have at least to change the tyres like from supersoft to medium, does this count in rain conditions?
Not in rain
Understand so you can finish the race like with 2 set of inter tyres?
Exactly. It doesn't make any sense on wet track
?
What's the point of changing to dry tyres if you have no grip
That's why I was asking
Inters provide more grip
george could get a podium
We can't know๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
lets hope shall we
that means that the points will be gifted in grid order
Imagine being a fan, paying for your ticket and dealing with terrible weather to not see a race
Wet when the track is full of water but eventually when its been like 20-40laps some spots on the track is dry but not dry enough. Inters is 30-55% wet proof. So inters is a mix of slicks and wet tyre.
so max 1st, george 2nd, lewis 3rd
They seem happy though most of the people
I would be happy too but pissed at the same time
If I was there and I was not wet and all that I would just be happy either way.
If wet then I would be pissed
Yes but no๐
So no time left
This whole thing reminds of the Malaysian GP back in 2009
Yea but that race got proceed
-.-
When Jenson won and they got half points
Yeah
And Kimi was eating an ice cream ๐คฃ
I think Michael Masi dont have the balls to start the race since Mr.Vettel was mad yesterday
It's better this than having an accident and a driver in hospital
Jules died in terrible conditions
They had to cancel that Japanese GP
Lauda was in the flames in a conditions like this
I was thinking when Grosjean crashed in 2012 and it was dry
Now imagine in heavy rain
Lol
Yeah I saw that as well ๐
If I was Norris right now i would take a nap aswel
Ok the mark is gone, its 4pm UTC now which means the race should have been done now. So no Belgium Grand Prix 99% sure.
We still have one hour left
The commentators said that the deadline was 6 pm local time
Nah but then it needs to start now, because it gotta be enough time for Podium, press conference
@long hound barca just scored lol 2min after start
Let's vote Kimi driver of the day ๐คฃ
agreed
Roberto ๐
Kimi for president ๐ฆ
They stopped the clock for 3h limit
That rule is totally pointless
Go mercedes ez win
FIA are clowns
?
They are stopping the clock using an international sports rule
It's ridiculous this 3 hours rule
No chance.
Or those idiots that won tickets to come to Belgium to watch then no race
in their head F
Well at least the Q was fun yesterday
couldnt watch it xD
Watch it then hahah

That Mercedes safety car is looking good
Yup. Oddly nice in red.
I kinda miss silvers
It's beautiful but I prefer the green Aston Martin
whats wrong with you -..-
ooof
@long hound are you watching the barca match?
Don't remind me
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I cant watch the laliga anymore my ISP dont have deal with Laliga channels anymore D:
no race for suree
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The SC and the trucks are Mercedes. So they win the race and extend the lead over RB ๐
FIA: the race hasn't started. Checo can join from the pit.
Also FIA: the race has started. We have until 18.00 local time
Depay๐ฆ
Surely they can come back tomorrow morning and run a race? obviously shortens the prep time for next week
They cant
Like its hard to find people to pack everything down then up again when its not on there scedule
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What are the fans still doing in the stands ๐ can't they go home now that the race won't restart
๐
Are they racing tmrw
yes yes yes
After 3 long hours finally
I was playing xD
Lewis already winning guys sorry
race 1 hr?
Max has so much advantage right now
He will be infront of everybody so he can see stuff, everybody behind cant see anything
Yep
No way Maz and Tsunoda dont crash
Max would get the point for the fastest lap?
Mazepin fastest lap OOooOoo
MazeSWIM
Done
Points?
nothing
Ugh
lol
Solid race ๐คฃ
some people has started to pack and go now
Seb is still in the car with his helmet
mazepin with the fastet lap
lol
George podium!!!!
George = Mercedes 2022 the boy didnโt even need to race, lol
lol
I honestly wanted them to just cancel this, this is tooo wierd
The impossible happend, Russell Podium what?
He did a brilliant q , prolly would finish p2 in real race too
Anyone know then what the standings are?
Give 1 point to him or I'll cry
So russell got 18 points or half?
I'm confused af
half
So 9
yes
Good
But latifi p9 so they got more points
Verstappen got 12.5?
yes
Lol imagine if he win bc of that half point ๐
Nah but Lewis still leads with alot of points
British GP Lewis extended the lead with 25 points, Verstappen 0 then, Hungary Lewis got P2 and Verstappen P9
Lol. Somehow, Monaco ended up being more exciting than Spa
Lewis leads with what ? 3 points
Dont know the points in my head but Lewis should be leading with lot more than just 3
Monaco is probably the most boring track of all time
2.5
I mean the track has been the same since back then
Now alfa have literally 0 chances of getting the 8th place
No. Max had 30+ point lead after Austria. 25 points out in Silverstone. Then Max lead was 8 points. Lewis scored something like 18 points in Hungary to Maxโs 2. So lead was 8 points. Now Max got 12.5 to Lewisโs 7.5. So, Lewis leads by 3 points. An easy margin to overcome
Wow did you see what lewis said
that would be 2.5
That guy literally deserves more respect ๐
How is it 2.5 ? 8-5 = 3 not 2.5
Anyway wait for f1 to annunce it I'm confused rn๐
No can't be a 2.5 because even lewis got 15 so 7.5
They havenโt updated the standings on the official website. But after Hungary the standings was 195-187. A diff of 8 points. Max got 5 over Lewis. So, itโs 3 points in Lewisโs favour
Sainz 0.5 points๐
But, Kudos to GR for that P2. Being Mr.Saturday helped him, for once
Goatifi still strikes again 1 point
That was the best race what i ever seen ๐
George strikes with 9 lol
His course looks like it end
Hey will the legend
got half?
no
no
Wait. racingnews365.com is telling that Max is leading by 2 points, itโs a half point race, right ?
cause he did not finish in top 10
his fastest lap was no within top 10
Aw man
Nah man I check you are right 3 points
I checked
He deserves that๐
Yeah, that website is showing the wrong stats as if a normal race had taken place
True dat.
I didnt know the standings so I went out and checked so 3 points
the big joke is RB working tirelessly to fix Checoโs car only to have no racing laps lol
Mercedes leads with 7pts damn
Its more a joke that Belgium used Millions to fix Spa after overflod then proceed with no race
F1 bad opinion : mazepin onboard lap should be uploaded in the yt
F1 good opinion*
3.18 min๐๐๐
Lol did you see seb and mick playing football agains their engineers while red flag๐
yes
Albon right now = Georgeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
George is prob enjoying this moment so much right nopw
Every hamilton/merc fan boi rn:
- Merc robed, ham robed....
Guys Hamilton was outqualified by Russell in a Williams, in a F word WILLIAMS. Just accept that. Max did what was asked to do yesterday, just do a clean lap to get pole, period. He is in one of the best car, if not the best car on the grid, whats the fuss about it? And yes, FIA is in trouble, their management this weekend was more incomprehensible since probably Imola 94.
we want to see racing, not getting asleep in front of the tv
Yeah. But Kudos to Russell and Norris for those incredible laps
Yep. But unfortunately conditions were too treacherous for racing proper. If they had raced, we wouldโve just seen more Norris
No one said that, rb fans are saying that because they want max to take 25 points get information first then talk
Max got disqualifiyed by russell in sakhir so still, and in wet conditions there is pure talent not about the car, don't forget that lewis is 36
Disqualification?
Keyboard mistake ๐
Tf ? Iโm an RB fan and honestly think thatโs stupid. And I think you mean outqualified by Russell, but Russell was in a Merc that was dominant over a RB which was nowhere near this seasonโs power
Still was his 1st race +you can't push out of the limits in these conditions so basically in those conditions its like same engine for everyone
Seriously Merc and RB this season are nowhere near where they were last year
Masi out, Seb Vet In
You canโt possibly think that. Sure, Russell was on his first day in a Merc, but itโs still a Merc. And itโs not โSame engine for everyoneโ. Radio in Q3 clearly tells Williams turned up the engine to the max โMode 2โ
Ofc๐
maybe they dont use it as much due to reliability
Still, russell was on good mod yesterday British drivers in the wet contitions are the best
yeah, and if Russell wouldn't get it and Lando didnt crash, maybe we could have more surprises and have:
1- Max
2- Lando
3- Russell
4- Hamilton
cough cough Lance Stroll, Seb Vettel, Max Verstappen, Checo Perez cough cough
I mean, I know George deserves it but I wouldn't celebrate that
This was ridiculous. Total nonsense
My mate I was talking in general, lewis have the most wins in wet
It would have been better to cancel the race
There was no race. Therefore it's ridiculous to have a podium and give points
It was still his effort in Q3 which got him the podium. He had every right to celebrate his first podium
Lando was better than max๐
The rules say 2 laps and itโs half points
Dunno what stroll is doing there anyway
I know it's an unpopular opinion. Today was awful
Worse than US 2005
Did you not see Turkey last year ? 2 seconds over P2. 2 whole seconds. Yes, he f ed up in the race, but that was because of graining and bad pit decisions which is not related to his wet weather ability
Ofc pink Mercedes ๐ he still end 9th
Maybe if we had a bit more entertainment by the drivers at the pits, like they had (not shown by sky), it would not suck all the wasted time
That was down to bad strategy and bad tyre management which is totally unrelated to his wet weather ability. And as you said earlier, everyone has same engines in the wet
Nevertheless, great job by RB mechanics to repair the whole front chassis
At least say straight away that there won't be a race. Lewis was clear, it's all about money
Today they gave away points
Still hamilton would have beat him, oh I actually forgot about turkey 2020 didn't hamilton win there starting 6th and max spin like 4 or 5 times?
yes at least give back the money to the people at the venue
They have to, they stayed 4h in wet to whatch the race and Nothing happend, a shame
Yeah, Hamilton winning in the wet (in which he was a good driver) and in a 2020 Mercedes which is very very OP, is not really a big feat. Like there wasnโt any competition. No car on that grid came close to the Mercedes on pure pace
it was worst than the 24h of nurburgring, that its like 10h racing, 14h red flagged
He was and still, imo he's the goat in the rain, and overall also
I think Jenson is the best in wet conditions
Canada 2011 vibes ๐
Iโm pretty sure, MSC wouldโve won many more races and an 8th championship in 2005 if it wasnโt for FIAโs Rules which were very against Ferrari and their tyres at that time
Out of the current grid, Vettel is da best, hands down
If we think about that, lewis without 2 dnf would have been 9 time world champion
Tf ?
Malaysia 2016
China 2007
I can get 2016, but whatโs the other
China was his mistake. That was a rookie mistake from a rookie
Yeah and if it wasn't for Ferrari strategy and for Romain, Alonso would have won 4 WDC
Like who goes onto the gravel on Pit entry, thatโs stupid
Bad tyres
I know that im gonna get a bit of hate, but im gonna say it:
to me the 2008 championship should have gone to Massa.
#plsdontkillme
He wouldโve won 2007 as well had Dennis not had that British Bias against Alonso. In my opinion it was his worst career decision by far
cough cough Alonso Crashgate cough cough
No lol
Um, no
Exactly. That happens in a British team with a British rookie
Singaporeโs crashgate was a big reason why Massa lost the championship
He was from McLaren drivers academy
Don't remind me Brazil 2008 ๐ญ
And I canโt comprehend how Merc was biased against Rosberg the moment Hamilton entered that team. Itโs kinda bizarre how a team prioritised a new McLaren driver transfer to a driver who stayed with them from the teamโs founding
stop. Donโt. Poor Massa
10 times world champ.... at least
Would have been the same as with Nico. Both fighting each other
Is that glock๐ง
Assuming Rosberg still won 2016, yes
Ofc not๐
lets be honest, it would be deserved
Lewis would have won in ferrari 2017 or 18 that's a fact
I'm not sure. Mercedes was always dominant
2017 and 18 ferrari was good and had the car to win the championship
Vettel wouldโve outperformed Rosberg in Merc, hands down
lets be honest
only legends win with the "italian shitbox" that most of the time "drives like a pig"
Ferrari always lost out in the development race in second half in both those seasons to Merc. And their management was questionable
It would have been the same. It reminds me of when Alonso was at Ferrari
Like lewis did๐
and still the last WDC with Ferrari is Kimi....
He always outperformed the car and RB was just superior
Yes, Germany 2018 was a disaster, but Thereโs equally high possibility Lewis wouldโve done the same
I guess we'll never know๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
The RB5 wasnt that superior of a car. I think it had reliability issues
He did the same at China 2007
That was 2010? Then yes but look at the rest of the years
Yep
So your comparing a guy at his rookie year with a 4 time world champion?
All other years were dominant, but Alonso outperforming F2012 gave us the biblical 2012 season
Itโs just evidences of it happening, Iโm in no way comparing Lewis 07 to Vettel 18
Mode 2 is the new Scenario 7
Now jokes aside. Did they really give the fastest lap award to Mazepin?
The award went to him, but not the point. He wasnโt within top 10
Ridiculous ๐คฃ
Doubt the point would had been given regardless since they didn't even race ๐
Technically he did put in the fastest lap, so see no reason why not
Half a point prolly
Behind the SC? Hahaha
Don't think they wanna encourage that if we get future scenarios like that behind an SC ๐
I hope this is the first and last race that was 100% SC
Iโll go back to continuing my. FR. I only did oje round
F1 has been real anticlimactic last 3 races...
Ye. I hoped for a great race, but spa woke up and chose intense rain
Good luck man. Same here
Still, somehow Monaco ended up being more exciting than Spa
2020: Race with no fans
2021: Fans with no race
I know this isn't the chat but... What strategy do you use for Austria?
Thinking about either
A) 3s-3s-3s and 4h-5h (or)
B) 4s-5h and 4h-5h. Depends on whether I wanna use boosts or not
If I had good Quali I wouldnโt use boosts, but all changes with bad Quali
Thanks! Copy that ๐
4S, 3S, 2S on first driver. 6H, 3S on second
Thank you!
Rus getting 2nd makes the race worth it
Ridiculous of fia to declare ver the winner
Rain aborted
2 laps behind safety car and chequered flag ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
this is one interesting podium
i dont think they should've awarded full points for that race
what do you think they should of done
they didn't
they only awarded half points

thanks that helps
should have awarded sprint race points, 3/2/1, this was a farce
I don't understand why you are mad about points, there is clear rule about that
If you don't race at least 75% of the race distance you get half points
what was the point of starting a race with 25 min delay when they clearly expected more rain
either you start at 15h or you cancel it
safety car 0 laps to verify the track
yet they allowed Q3 in a weather shitstorm with drivers calling red flag
CLOWNS
Because the weather forecast is not 100% accurate and they tried to have a race
For the people that paid to see a race
Would have you preferred waiting a few hours and get a race or get cancelled at 15 and have race conditions at 16?
Of course they waited as long as possible
They would have been more clowns if that happend
This solution was the least bad option
they should just set all the races at the middle east or race during the summer season in some asian countries if they cant handle wet races
Lullu wasnt able to pass rus. Shows again that he is just a random driver.
Yeah - mimmi hamilton wont win this season
for an hour tho
I could have waited even 3 hours to view max and Lewis battle on the rain at spa
And even more if I had to wait on the rain at the track
but George Russell in second tho
Yeah but realistically he wouldn't last long in p2
ya, tho I wish he had pole position
More so if he wants a seat at Mercedes for next year
williams has pace in the rain but he will let hamilton pass because contracts
no ones passing anyone though in that visibility
For 1 lap yes, for a stint not sure
Russel said they had the 17th fastest car
remember williams was about to overtake a merc in imola
Yeah and Ferrari was first in Monaco, so?
It's another track, different conditions, tire degradation and setup
williams was on a full wet weather setup
And more then everything it was bottas ๐
Bottas in wet conditions is worse than any other driver on the grid, fight me
bottas on wet weather has saved merc
I'll fight with you ๐
Lol
Turkey last year?
imola this year and hungary
imola- bottas doesnt crash, lewis doesnt get his safety car.
hungary- bottas doesnt go bowling, rbr would have some good points and his 3rd place rival wont have retired
Yeah but Merc being lucky doesn't mean that bottas is good on wet ๐
still getting better results #blessed
#rigged
If bottas is bad in wet that's not merc fault ๐คฃ
Lullu only p3๐ฅณ
Russell in a Williams beating Ham in Mercedes ๐
Yeah poor driving again by lullu
๐คฃ
Guys, yesterday there wasn't a race, and the result came form the quali session.
To me points shouldn't have been awarded, but if FIA wanted to award point, should have give them the same amount of points that a sprint race give, being 3 points to first place, 2 points for second place and 1 point to third place?
Remember : Williams are the only team to score double points at both Spa and Hungary
Nah. Thereโs actually a rule stating half points. The sprint came just this year
Ham is still lucky having received any points. He wouldnt have finish the real race cause he had to stop to swype of the tears of his eyes beeing crying all the time " i cant see anything".
What could have been for Norris... Imagine the starting grid:
P1: Norris
P2: Verstappen
P3: Russell
P4: Hamilton
And in the last race when he was 3rd at turn one ๐ญ
what do u guys think of the belgian gp?
A good "race"
Ham p10 or crashed would have been better but ok
Better for max xD
If ham looses its better for all the world ๐
Coym
Come on you max
Maxi
xD
Can't wait to see max win in front of the orange army
Pls RB 1-2. Hope for Checo good Quali performance
But overtakes at Zandvoort will be rad with the banking and stuff
Rent free
nobody likes HAM or MER, even HAM doesn't like HAM
and most of all nobody likes these narrow tracks where overtaking is impossible, let's hope for mild rain
some good old crashes or mistakes
Mistakes & crashes from ham without personal damages are always welcome ๐
yup, some off track excursions or spins
I just want Max to win zandvoort then Sainz winning monza after max and ham collide with other
Or Russel or latifi or stroll.........
I meant LEC, GIO and RAI for italy (alfa is italian, ferrari is italian)
Iโm pretty sure overtaking opportunities are there here, in the banking, into t1, most places where you can pass in the games
like kemmel straight ? ๐
you can overtake in the middle of parabolica though
Pls no rain at Zandvoort lol
or in the middle of Ascari
Arenโt we talking about Zandvoort ?
you said where you can pass in the games, I am quoting overtaking spots in real F1 where in the game you can't overtake
and viceversa
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What does fia mean
Familton is awfull
max is pog
yea
Kimi retire at Italian GP? Is that true?
He will announce his retirement
So? George = Mercedes 2022, Bottas = Alfa 2022, Albon/De Vries = Williams 2022?
Seems so
Ngl, Illot may even be the teammate of Bottas as he posted an Instagram pic (him in Alfa Romeo team merch) with the caption โAfter such a disappointing race, Iโve got some announcement for you guysโ or something for those lines
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Where did you hear that?
News outlets
RUSSELL IS JOINING MERCEDES
ITS CONFIRMED
CUZ BOTTAS HAS SIGNED A DEAL WITH ALPHA ROMEO
Alpha๐ญ๐คฃ
1st source?
2nd its Alfa.
Until Kimi announces retirement, nobody will say anything
Itโs not confirmed at all
Now the teams are confirmed
This year drivers got choosen to get about same lvl of driver & car
Vet / msc go merc
Max / lec red bull
Bot / maz alfa
Ham / tsu new fiat team
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But now serious. Rus to merc, bot to alfa
I've seen so many bs on Instagram that now I will believe only an official news from F1 app
German moto press already saying it
Yeah I've been earing that weeks ago that's why until I see a Mercedes post or official source I'm not bothering
I'm not saying it's impossible, just annoyed by everyone saying that without proof
Feels more and more obvious it will be RUS to Merc. Toto and Merc very kind tho in wanting to find a new seat for Bottas before. Sth we don't see every day in this sport. More like the opposite ๐
But Bottas to Romeo feels a bit weird to me since he has no ties to Ferrari who have their own drivers one think they'd like to promote. Well well, hope we get to know for sure soon!
If we follow the pundits they're also mentioning ALB to Williams...
So much banter during "silly season".
@mystic aurora Both of those feel quite ilogical ๐ But suppose if they pay enough everything is possible. Just wonder why Merc would be doing that for BOT. Feels like out of sentimental reasons if so, which is also odd.
Yup. Its all suspect indeed. BOT doesn't bring much money to the table, which possible isn't helping.
And that's what makes it even more suspect since as I said Merc must be paying for Bottas if so ๐ Bottas to Williams or Aston Martin would had made sense tho.
Id agree too if they had wanted to keep him. I think their interest to find him a seat is only a way to thank him for the years he's put in which helped with the CC.
Exactly.
Tbf, last year was a true silly season
KIMI. ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT ON INSTAGRAM
Yep
No more Kimi high levels on next yearโs grid. I hope he has a good personal life from here on
I mean Bottas to Alfa possible or Williams. And Albon to return also possible. We are going to miss a 40+ driver but he gives more room to other people. I am excited whats going to happen next.
Like Kimi is a very good driver. Still is. Only if he is given a competitive car, he would win many races
Why would albon even come back? His dtm career is promising atm
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Because he like to be last in f1 than 1st in dtm๐๐คฃ๐ญ
I mean heโd rather be winning and enjoying himself than be treated like heโs just there to fill a seat because golden boy max
So true
He's going to williams or Alfa not redbull that don't know what respect means
Are you sure about that ?
Yes
Here is the thing guys, Bottas and George ofc one of them at Mercedes. Then Alfa needs a Driver either Bottas, Albon or Callum. Williams Bottas, Albon or De vries
Rip
Tbh it could be worse, he could go to haas
Bottas better than all of them
Albon was underperforming as hell while he was in RB. Red Bull were essentially a one horse race with Max against Lewis and Bottas. Look at how Bahrain 2021 turned out. Albon was underperforming and got the basic respect of a driver. Not the golden boy treatment
Not respect but they dont know how to take good decisions. Like 2019 albon and 2020 albon is a whole season combined. Gasly didnt even get second year to improve on mistakes.
No ghasly got dropped mid season like thatโs just pure disrespect
They were bad at decision making. Like 2021 was arguably the best decision they made after promoting Max
Man they literally let them down, let drivers go in the half of the year only rb can do that
Again, are you sure about that ?
I said it so yes
Michael Schumacher got in because he was swapped mid season. Renault did a mid season swap with Sainz and Palmer if you want a more recent example
You're argument is a bit relevant because last year RB car was not so competitive as now. Now it so competitive that it can take P1, Last year the best you guys could do was P2. So not really a fair compassion to albon.
Yea excatly
My g why should I care about sainz and palmer *, +schumacher retired he didn't left
Yeah. But like he couldnโt reach Q3 many races and was solidly last in Russia
So youre saying every driver has the same talent and therfore since a 7times world champ did it in the past some rookies in 20s can match that kind of level?
And if he doesn't 1 bad race then let swap him in the mid season?
Iโm not telling that. He said only RB did mid season swaps and I gave other examples. Thatโs it.
Iโm talking about Albon here
They just don't want to touch max their golden boy they even left Ric go
But the car was not on point like this year. Albon pushed that car so many times always complaining about the car. And he often crashed it and lost control. I mean what more could he have done when it was so undriveable for him.
And I'm taking about the same think
Understandable
I think Albon should atleast be at Alphatauri 1-2 year before they got him into A team. Like guys imagine if the same thing happend to Tsunoda look at him now? And Albon was the same in Alphatauri.
ok its F1 lets say atleast 1 year
Albon and Gasly duo will be fire ๐ฅ
Like yeah, I would say Albon was promoted too early
I completely think they both are better than Tsunoda and they both should gotten more time. Like since Max came they expected all drivers to match that kind of level right away. Remember that they got it now because Checo has atleast 10years of experience, Daniel was in the team couple of years too. And look at Gasly and Albon just months or 1 year?
Still deserve more than kick him
Tsunoda since now is really disappointing
he is not kicked he is a reserve driver
I mean that year they replaced him so fast
Pls dont say kicked, it means youre not part of the team or you dont have a job anymore. He has a contract with Red Bull and he is Reserve driver and drivers for Red Bull in DTM.
Yeah your right
Its complicated I get it, English....
Yeah ๐๐
I was born with English and even I cant speak or write. Or say the right words so completely understandable mate.
Yeah, there was no way Max wouldโve even had a chance of competing for the title had Albon been in the second seat. Take
Baku - Max crashes out, Lewis wins 25 point lead
France - Merc wouldโve pulled another Spain and boom, 32 point lead
Austria and Styria - you could argue Max wouldโve won those anyway - 18 point lead for HAM
Silverstone - more 25 points, 43 point lead for Ham
Like it wouldโve been a very very bad โfightโ for RB
But all these comparasson is this year. The car this year is so good that its actually managing to win. Like the best you guys could do last year was Max P2 splitting mercedes. Also the RB16B got upgrades, who knows Mercedes got massive nerf too this season with 10% less downforce. The RB16B got high rake wings too that helped alot so? Idk mate its hard.
Like the main reason Merc couldnโt pull a Spain at France was because Checo was there. Had Merc pit for a second time, they would have had to fight for position with Checo who had relatively Fresh hard tyres too. Had Albon been there, his poor tyre management (seen in Spain 2020) wouldโve given Merc all the chance to pull that
Itโs still viable conditions to compare. A Car getting an upgrade doesnโt magically make you faster. Or give you better tyre management
I saw Mercedes race debrief Video. And They talked and planned to have 2 stop on the morning. But the team had other ideas. Both Hamilton and Bottas were mad after that they didnt listen to them. Checo I think had a impact on the strategy but I dont by that much. In the video they were talking about some agreement and disagreement.
Not so sure about that since he didn't win a race for years after his return to Ferrari. Won one at the end I think. He broke a record in consecutive podiums without getting a win, while his teammate Vettel got several in the same car during that time.
Ye, but Vettel was much younger compared to Kimi. And you could argue that Kimi, while not being the old beast, is a solid midfield driver
Still Vettel showed you could win in that car and Kimi didn't, so that makes me doubt he would win races in a more competitive car since he didn't in Ferrari. Maybe if he had been in a Merc last season with Bottas he could had won one too. Since these cars were introduced 2014 he hasn't been the same. Actually watched a race from 2013 a few weeks ago and then he was great.
He's done some mistakes lately that made it feel like he should hang his helmet up. Like the crash with Vettel. And he did sth 1-2 races ago. Crashed in pitlane? He did sth that was unacceptable but forgot what it was now ๐
That said I will miss Kimi too! Also liked lately how well he and Gio seem to get along. Kimi always so happy in videos with Gio ๐
Yeah, now heโs just getting too old
Yup. Wonder how long Alonso can last..
Alonso: Hold My beer
Alonso never ages
excalty
The man looks mostly like his Ferrari days ngl
hehe
The dominoes will start to fall now. Bottas will be confirmed at Alfa and Russell will be confirmed as Mercedes for next season.
Kimi could have won 2 more WDC in 03 and 05 WDC if it wasn't for McLaren's poor reliability
In 2005 McLaren clearly had the fastest car but they weren't consistent
For example in Nurburgring
Guys, now how can I justify my mood if no one never saw who the hell Kimi Raikkonen has on track?
Why does ham not retire? Would be a wonderful news
He will prolly retire in 23, after his newly signed contract expires
Probably yes
Hopefully
Why so negative? He is obviously still very hungry and shows that he still wins so.
He has still the best car & a poor teammate - thats all
We need to pray for no rain
Yep
They already forecasted rain on sunday
Hopefully less intense and hoping the banks drain rain better than spa
Its not about driving skills or hunger its about what kind of person he is.
Donโt understand why people care so much about his personality. Itโs not like you are the one that determine how he lives and how he is. Is he a bad person so be it, but donโt make it sound like itโs a right way to live or be.
I think it's like that for many who watch sports. If they don't like the person they don't like the athlete. I'm like that. Liverpool always been my team in England but I didn't like Sterling when he played there since to me he seemed like an a**. Same in F1.
You can be a good one in your sport you do. But you only will get a real sportsman if you got manners & sportmen behaviour.
Ok? But again you are not mr.Hamilton. If he wants to be like, be a jerk, unsportsmanlike like that so be it. Like every human has their rights to be as they want to be. Nobody should say he should be more like that etc. Because it does not matter. Only thing you achieve with that is anger and hate.
Itโs the same in other sports also as they said above - especially in individual sports itโs hard to separate the athlete from the person itself.
Noone said that buddy.
People rather wants Hamilton to retire, I found that a bit negative. Which shows that people care and complain about him all the time. Now I am not defending anyone. I just speak out what I see. Either if he is not sportsmanlike, respectful, politic donโt matter. You saying noone said that when, people type it in that way.
Dude. You are way too off. We were saying how he behaves not how he SHOULD behave big diff.
And if you see that there than you are wrong.
wow I love Zandvort they actually look fast
my house corridor is wider and 2 ppl don't fit in
Will be a boring race since you can't overtake. Q might be fun tho if they can avoid too much traffic.
wait no overtake? what cause it?
Massive issue with a lot of the old tracks, the aero disruption off the back of modern F1 cars means you can't get close enough to pass. Would rather F1 had a shorter season than have to cram races in on unsuitable circuits
I feel like they prioritize location over entertaining tracks, which is understandable from an economical perspective. But for us who don't travel to watch live it becomes more boring ๐ Feels like basically all new tracks they added last few years have been harder to overtake on, while others that had great racing was scrapped. And doesn't make it better when both China & Spa which are 2 overtaking tracks didn't come to be this season.
And I still miss Malaysia.
Like the China back straight and Spaโs Kemmel straight are high overtake zones, but we couldnโt see both due to various reasons. Hopefully, Turkey has some rain like last year to spice things up
Spa tends to have the most overtakes on the calendar so I was really excited for that race. And now this weekend starts with Vettel's car causing a red flag 2/3 of the session. And races before that Merc took out all competitors physically.
So can't say F1 has been great lately ๐
Hungary was fun even if Merc took out half the grid ngl
Pray for RB 1-2. And itโs also only FP1. The real Quali pace can be seen in FP3 or atleast FP2
Both yes and no imo. Even tho I'm happy for Ocon I'm no fan of fluke wins cuz of chaos, and would rather had seen Lando & co make it out of turn 1.
I pray for a clean race with surprisingly many overtakes after expecting like zero ๐
I want red flags ๐
why lose power in fp2 not in the race
Is that Button talking ?
ยจmhm`? I am starting to think there is something with those mercedes engines
Yeah. First Seb and Now Ham. A bit sus ngl
I bet heโll be celebrating now again. Oh wait, karma
might be they removed something thats causing this
didnt williams get some problems too earlier this season
I think Baku
Mhm look who is here
Zzz.. 3rd red flags in 1,5 sessions.
none of it
So what? ๐
The engine just stop, but Mercedes said there was no broken components within the engine. So it might just be something or actually broken component.
Oh ok
lewis literally sandbagged
So 2 Mercedes engines stopped in 2 sessions, Good ๐
Now give 1 more tomorrow in Q and 1 in the actual race.
Damnโฆ.
4 stops oooOooO
De Vries and Albon are close to a formula 1 seat next year
Toto said there will be a empty seat at Williams so that means that russell... ๐
Yeah Russell is almost sure to get a Mercedes seat while Bottas will take the seat of Kimi in AlfaRomeo
Thatโs what we heard a lot in France
Then Albon and De Vries will take the seat of Williams or AlfaRomeo
interesting
De Vries and Albon at Williams would be great. Not sure Latifi will continue, even if he brings quite some money with him
Or Bottas / Albon at Alfa and De Vries / Latifi at Williams
Albon at Alfa sounds much more logical as he is driving a Ferrari after all right now ๐
Hรผlkenberg is a serious option for Williams too
And as 2022 is a whole new car, he could be a very good driver as heโs really good at helping building a car and testing it
Merc really waited for Perez to extend his contract
Hulk / De Vries - Williams / Albon / Bottas - Alfa
Hello
Jesus crying
Latifi won't quit so yeah also another L for hulk
please be a 1/2 FER please please
Hmmm if 18 cars break down its possible
oh boy
not impossible in Q
๐คฃ ๐
Kimi rushing his retirement prob also gone in Monza
Giga kubica is back๐
Max to get a penalty tomorrow, FIA are talking
If it's for the red flag he has already been cleared for that.
Sainz crashed... hope they manage to fix before Q.
Feels like sth always happens to at least one of the Ferraris whenever they got pace...
Hard crash? Or they can make in time?
Not extremely but front ruined and back got a hit too. But doesn't look impossible managing to fix.
Now I try to take a risk, in my opinion Giovinazzi goes to q3
I'll follow: Hamilton takes pole.
(He is 1,2s behind now with 20 min left on FP3 after the car issues yesterday)
Q are in 2 hours right ?
Toto: "Gasly Q's 6th" ๐
Statement lap by Max finally. 0,5s faster than Bo77as in 2nd.
Yes
Zandvoort about to riot if Max gets the annual red bull mechanical dnf this week
there's no hope
This is like speed traps. So who runs least wing, best engine. Highest engine mods etc. Doesnโt really matter in a track full of twists and turns
Crofty talking about
sandbagging in commentary๐คฃ
Does he play Clash?
Sandbagging was a word way before F1 Clash
omg russell is so fast
Is it possible to dislike George?
NO
Some people hate him๐ญ
Especially vb fans
I like him alot not because of his driving skills but he is one of the few guys that dont talk too much
Are always some people hating everyone ๐
Gio purple 1st sector
its f1

Perez p16๐
Damn perez trash
Perez P16, Vettel P17, Gio and Latifi๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
Contract renewal curse
Facts
shocking Perez
It's just a joke๐
Spaghetti mafia
Gunther is not even looking at Mazepin, he is mad
The truck has a big evolution
AHHHH. PEREZ AGAIN MISSING OUT BECAUSE OF QUEINING SMH
Was RB fault for sending him out too late. He didn't get to do his last lap when track was the fastest.
Rip same with vettel -.-
Berlusconi yes
Facts
Vettel was blocked by Mick
Saw it
Perez should just take his engine penalty this race. He aint getting anywhere anyway
Race Control said Mazepin and that they will look at it after the Q.
Maz stops Vet & per was in another track
Maybe. But Perez can possibly put in a comeback
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Its zandvoort aka dutch monaco
Mhm nobody talking about Gio and Latifi๐ฑ
Track evolution ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
Only Q1 ๐
Heโs got many laps. Atleast 1 overtake into the banking per lap would be enough
Yea ik but they are improving OoOooo
Both Williams out of q1 for the 3rd time this year
Gio is a great driver, he deserves a seat in f1
Ovvio
Gio has 0 race pace
Freaking idiots. RB shouldโve Sent him out earlier
In Alfa fanno delle strategie pessime e lo penalizzano sempre
Nah, alfa literally fcked him up
Anche con kimi
More than the 3 Daddy's Cash, but to me he is pretty meh and I wouldn't mind if a bigger talent got his spot.
Q2 started
Yep
Max and Latifi ready now
this is Giovi's weekend: if he does a super race, maybe he will be there next season
Sauber should try replacing him with their other juniors
Max 1.09
Russell 1.10
I predict now, GR Q3
Bottas p2
Perez about to get his 4th consecutive non scoring race. He needs to hope for a red flag/yellow flah
This track tho ๐
I like the speed of this track unfortunately people say itโs not a overtaking track
Giovinazzi really heard about rumours at Alfa Romeo and do want to keep his seat
Yea
Gio already lined up for Ferrari LeMan
Russell noooooooooo
Nooooo
Nooo
Devastatedโฆ
Save the car
Wow so lucky
The car looks ok? He can take another lap?
He might have another chance
Maybe he has some damages, but I think itโs everything ok
If they are quick so
No he's out
Every session has a flag
He literally can change his tyre and go back ๐
Heโs out
๐
Lol
Lol
Red flag race tomorrow Left rear punctures incoming
๐ฆ
Jinx
Lol
Itโs your fault ๐
Haha
Canโt wait too see him in a Mercedes car next season
Russell slacking now coz he got that merc seat next year
Sensational
Lucky af the car didn't even get visual damage ๐
Yeah
Itโs called the track is design well
Tell that to Sainz ๐
That gravel trap did all the work
He's out of the car now, idk what's happening
Eh he lost control and hit the curve that was on Sainz