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Yeah, sure. A small fraction. I accept that, but missing the apex by inches can really change your line. This may have been a few foot
can you answer about the video?
that picture is a very good demonstration of the fact that whereever Hamilton ended up out of the corner was partially dictated by having to avoid a car in front of him!
and nothing to do with his entry
One time you say they were substantially alongside and the other time, Max was ahead, Iām confused
have you watched the video? Hamilton is substantially alongside into the corner on a tighter line so he has to slow earlier, hence why Max hit his front wheel and not the side of his car.
Yeah, totally compromised by Max sooo ahead
you post that picture and claim Max has that corner????? Have you watched the video . . .
I donāt claim Max has that corner. Geez, since theyāre alongside, both have to leave space for the other. Well, one did while the other didnāt
right Max turned in knowing there was a car inside him
Hamilton missed the apex by a fraction and that's why he was penalized. Max decided to show no caution whatsoever and paid the price.
Itās clear to me they BOTH did not leave space.
Isnāt there enough space for Hamilton to drive ? And a little bit more ? What else do you expect ? Go off the whole track ?
quite ; Hamilton didn't have a choice AT THAT POINT he was committed to the line, Max had a choice
you understand speed and trajectory right
Thereās sooooo much space here
Yeah
OK so you understand that Hamilton couldn't get any tighter because the car would lose grip and slide right
So then heās going too fast
They where both going way to fast entering that corner.
too fast for what
The corner
he made the corner with ease, Max would have made it outside of him had he not turned in as sharply
He never made the apex
racing requires some level of compromise between competitlors
there's no requirement to hit the apex
Exactly. But they were both going for it. Max was trying to make it, Hamilton didnāt.
Hamilton made it, Max didn't
One time you say he couldāve easily made the apex, the other time you say he couldnāt get tighter. Why are you contradicting yourself over and over and over again ?
wut? I never said he could make the apex
Ham made it vs Leclerc
different situation, different cars, different time ; Hamilton backed off LeClerc
if you guys would actually watch this video it really would explain to you the issue
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Seen it
The funny thing is Leclerc left even little space on the inside, while Hamilton easily made it
Who is Palmer?
Seen it as well
Uh, a former F1 driver?
Yes
Former Renault driver contradicting himself and cutting chicanes in Monza
Who signs his cheques?
oh great so now we enter conspiracy theories
āYou have to be careful on a street trackā
DNFs out of Baku
No conspiracy here
I'm pretty sure Palmer's analysis which seems entirely fair is somewhat more informed than anyone here, even those of us who have raced a fair bit
Itās merely a paid opinion
Canāt compare the overtake on LeClerc for the simple fact that Lewis didnāt have to be aggressive in overtaking LeClerc since the Mercedes was over a second quicker. Also it would have been a major risk to go aggressive as Lewis needed to make sure to get points even if LeClerc ended up winning.
but you're suggesting it was paid by someone who wants to . . . see it as a racing incident????
Iām just asking questions
no your insinuating that Palmer isn't relevant because he has been paid by someone to say something. Which given a 19 minutes breakdown of the situation seems a little tin foil hatty
Is you say Lewis shouldnāt have been able to make the corner with the space max gave, he shouldnāt have been able to do so with the lesser space Leclerc gave. But he did, didnāt he ? Him being aggressive or not has no role to play here
who has said Lewis has no role to play???
Lewis made the corner quite happily in both cases
Wow
Yes aggression plays a major role in the two overtakes.
Youāre contradicting yourself again @brazen mulch
Not at all. All Iām suggesting is be mindful of your sources of information
I think you're hard of reading mate
You say he can make the corner, but you also say he canāt. What are you suggesting ? Take a stand
so explain the issue with Jolyon Palmer and his analysis
what are you talking about?? Lewis made the corner in both circumstances. The corner is NOT THE APEX
No issue, he does fine work. But itās still a paid opinion.
Jeff this is conspiracy nonsense.
You are the one fuelling the fire
Leclerc mightāve given the same or less space than Max did, but with Leclerc, he hug the inside line, even going on the kerbs a bit, but with Max, he casually leaves some space on the inside
Seems like heās pushing Max over isnt he ?
Uh, no, I posted a legitimate source of opinion from an F1 driver doing a detailed analysis. You are suggesting his analysis is biased because . . . .
Yes he does, the speed of entry into the corner with LeClerc was lower. Hamilton didn't need to be as aggressive at that point.
Mazepin pulled off an incredible clean move on Mick at the final corner. Shame Hamilton didnāt have the patience to do it there
if you watched the video then Palmer explains quite nicely why Copse was vital. Max would be away through the following sequence of corners where you can't follow. What two Haas's behind a load of other cars are up to is really totally irrelevant.
@iron stag Do you not agree that both drivers are at fault? Because itās clear to me that both drivers entered the corner far to fast. And both drivers could have left room for each other.
Hamiltonās line and space given by defending cars on both cases. Hamilton is deliberately going as wide as possible in the first case
Lewis would have been to far behind at that point.
ah see that's just a fundemantally misunderstanding of racing. Hamilton is carrying far more speed into the corner which is why he's wider.
because he'd only just caught up to LeClerc. Didn't have the run from the previous corner that he had on Max
The Merc was faster on the straights than the RB due to the increased downforce rear wing. He couldāve caught up, just like he did on the back straight
Iām talking about the hypothetical which you denied
again this is a misunderstanding of racing. Hamtilon was close to Max on the straights going back to the start of the lap Max had a compromised line. This went on for several corners before Copse. Hamilton had a run at Max three times, Max threw his elbows out but compromised his line as a result which led to Hamilton getting another run at him as he had better drive onto the straights. Copse was the last of that, because then you enter a twisty section where you can't follow.
The Merc wasn't faster on the straights, Hamilton had better drive onto the straights
Isnāt there literally a straight with DRS after the maggots and beckets section ?Ik DRS isnāt enabled on lap 2, but still ?
but you've lost all the ground through the maggots/beckets section
Itās something called clean air. Which the car in the lead will have. The Mercedes was slightly faster over the weekend. Not enough to catch and pass the Red Bull if behind after lap one. Thatās why Mercedes plan A was to take the lead on lap 1 because they knew it would be extremely difficult to catch the and pass the Red Bull after lap 1.
Rly ? A car thatās sooo drag efficient that it needed big wings for matching downforce would lose all ground through Maggots and Beckets section
yeah, F1 cars don't follow each other terribly well
(Will you guys stop pinging me ffs ?)
At the end of the day both drivers need to make the corner. Max had to turn in to make the corner, Lewis either couldnāt or didnāt turn in more to give Max room. It is, in a nutshell, a racing incident, but Lewis was found to be predominantly at fault. I agree with this as I feel no driver is wholly to blame, nor is either driver wholly innocent. This happened so fast. Max was further ahead. So the reasoning is Lewis could have avoided the collision by turning in just a bit more. Itās a tough call to make for sure, but I believe they got it right.
I think most would largely agree. I don't believe Hamilton could have turned in more, the car would lose traction. He was fully committed to the corner at speed. They both were. It's a classic racing incident. Once they were both committed to the corner, however, Max could've avoided it. He had room to the outside. But he would have been passed and was unwilling to compromise.
Sounds about right in my opinion.
Take your negativity somewhere else.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but letās keep the toxic comments out of it
I must be confused, but doesnāt the inside give you more traction and the outside less traction ? So he wouldāve gained traction with the inside line, if anything. Or he couldāve went on the kerb, went a little bit more inside like he did with Leclerc and couldāve not taken max out
Fun fact : Lewis has collided with more drivers than Max has. And still people call Max aggressive. I found It really funny tbh
Inside is slower
Yeah, but more grip right ?
No ; most grip is on the racing line ; anything off the racing line is less grip
Not necessarily
Itās all about entry and exit, where you need to be
and speed into and out of it
there was no option to be on the kerb for Hamilton ; the reason he was wider than that was because of his speed
Yeah. Traction can be gained even on the outside. I remember.
You can generally carry more speed on the outside, but you have a further distance to travel
Yep. That part was always clear
Itās all about the next corner
There were brakes on his car, werenāt they there ?
wide in ; to the apex ; hit the power ; that's your ideal line
He didnāt trash. We all are having a discussion here
Thereās no need for rude comments here
yes but the braking part of it in a head to head race for a corner is different to a qualifying lap
He didnāt direct them to another person
Hand up - the "learn" bit was condescending a bit ; I apologize
Yeah, that is clear. Wide in, touch apex, wide out for maximum balance between speed and grip. But like, when thereās another car on the inside / outside, the rules are different
When a car is on the inside, you miss the apex to leave space
When a car is on the outside, you miss the wide in/out. Hamilton tried to do all while having a car on the outside, so he crashed with Max
both lines were compromised into the corner because they were both going marginally too quick ; that's what racing is about - pushing the limits. Both drivers were able to make the corner, neither were on perfect lines.
well without going over the past several pages again . . Verstappen turned in and must have known Hamilton couldn't disappear. He was being aggressive and paid the price. Hamilton was being aggressive and came away mostly OK.
On a side note, the impact to hams front wheel was so significant it broke Maxās rear suspension, but it only cracked Lewisās wheel. Merc front suspension bulletproof or what?!
there wasn't a mistake
I think Max would have still had the lead if he did not make that second aggressive turn in. As he was carrying slightly more speed into the corner because he was on the outside.
think that's just down to angles and luck!
Precisely why Lewis held his ground
now we're back to name calling? I've raced a lot over the past 35 years . . . nothing there that's not seen somewhere on a weekly basis
Exactly, I think Lewis didnāt expect Max to make an aggressive turn.
Hamilton has a better view at the of the day ; he knows exactly where his car is in relation to Max's ; Max knows Ham is inside him but cannot see where because mirrors are useless at that point
I think Max thought or was betting on Lewis to back out of it a bit more
uh . . .
Princess? Really?
never said that. never insinuated that. max takes every move as if its do or die. Hamilton used to do that (especially in 2011). He learned. Max could've not been as aggressive and WORST case come out second with 18 pts. He could've left more room inside and maybe even held the lead. He was ultra aggressive as always and this time it backfired.
still think he'll win the championship ; the FIA handed the floor to Red Bull quite literally š
In all honesty it could have ended the other way with Hamilton crashing out
No I've said all along its a racing incident, both were to blame.
Didnāt Lewis crash with Nico in 2016 ? Shove Nico off in USA 2015 ? And be a general rash driver in 2014 ? Didnāt he also spin Vettel around in 2017/18 and brake check Vettel at Baku. I feel Hamilton is just a dirty driver when he is fighting for WDC
I donāt think this incident was dirty
Vettel hit Hamilton in Baku. No, I'm pretty sure most of that is incorrect.
Had Max been on the inside, with Lewis on the outside, and had Lewis crashed, people wouldāve blamed it fully on Max and not on Lewis
Vettel sideswiped him after the brake check. Funny as heck!
A racing incident requires two participants. What I said is once Hamilton was committed to his position Max had the ability to avoid it. Hamilton didn't he'd made his choice.
I can provide you images for each and everything. Except 2014.
Max would have made the corner and be ahead!
images tell very little ; Nico got all feisty with hamilton when he kept getting beat, especially after Bahrain. They had a number of good battles, a number of bad ones including Nico's brainfades in Spain and Austria.
But, we all can agree that 10 sec penalty was nothing. Atleast a drive through had to have been given
10 second penalty was pretty much their only option ; it was on the harsher side of things available (could've been 5)
Last warning. Stop your jabs.
Yes HAM has driven dirty many times, especially against Nico. We just haven't seen it alot recent years since his car has been too dominant and his teammate not near his level in race pace.
How do you justify 2015 then ? USA ? Hamilton shoved Nico off track at the start and went off with a penalty. How do you justify him spinning Vettel around in Monza ? How do you justify him brake testing Vettel and whining ?
I'll go look ; he didn't brake check Vettel though ; that's a total fabrication
Many world champions before Lewis have driven dirty as most people want to say. Iād rather say aggressive.
There WERE harsher penalties including a 10 sec stop/go (give to Hamilton for entering pits when closed, apparently its more serious) and there was a drive through penalty
Youāre pushing it.
Max is dirty as well. Calmed down a bit recent years as he has matured but damn he was dirty his first seasons in RB š
so looked at USA start. Nothing to it, Hamilton got a better start took the corner, Nico was going around the outside. Traction was limited for both given the conditions. Total nothing to see here.
I think the stewards only gave 10s because they found Lewis to be predominantly at fault not fully. If they found him fully then the penal would have been far worse.
Hamilton had no reason to go that slow and practically stop on track when the SC was down the hill. If it wasnāt a brake test (the car in p3 Checo could go alongside Hamilton, he was that slow), I donāt know what Iād
not seeing anything at Monza either with Vettel ; Hamilton has the better line down the outside, Vettel is compromised on the inside and slides into Hamilton.
He has calmed a bit. But I disliked him so much when he would take out Riccairdo, Vettel and especially the Iceman Kimi.
I give up. If that isnāt a shove and dirty driving, I donāt know what youāll accept as. Bye.
I disliked him too back then.
He shouldāve braked and not pushed the car ahead.
he's ahead on the inside . . . really don't know what you want there.
Vettel is not ahead. Vettel hit Hamilton's sidepod
Being ahead still means giving space. And in Monza, through a chicane, you donāt divebomb fully and just push the other car off
he's on the outside . . . he can't divebomb
divebomb is chucking the car up the inside
Into the second part of the chicane he had the inside line, canāt know whether you can see or not
Vettel is on the inside (off the racing line) going into the left turn ; Hamilton is on the outside (the racing line) going around him . . Vettel then comes across and into Hamilton. Again it's kinda a classic racing incident
both at fault and not at fault
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You didnāt need to be that rude
Itās a major problem as this is a discord for the game
Just tell him politely
Still, thereās no need to be that rude
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Itās a problem for him and saying āwho caresā is rude
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To all the "Lewis didn't crash max" people
People just argue Lewis didnāt crash Max and it was Maxās fault smh. Or a racing incident,while Lewis is at fault and couldāve prevented it if he had chosen to
Lewis did a misstake into a turn, it happens... No need to agrue more about it š
Max could have prevented the crash aswell
Weāll see in a bit. Doubt it will be overturned and a harsher penalty to be given
Itās not a mistake tbh. Later in the race, when Lewis VS Leclerc happened, Leclerc left even less space and Hamilton got through easily by cutting the inside
Hearing should start around now
Who knows. The last time RB vs Merc happened, Hamilton got a 3place grid penalty. Letās see if history repeats itself
Still a bit unfair, 1.8mln damage and 0 points - heck, even Mercedes were whining about it when Russell and Bottas crashed. But again - I very much doubt anything will be done.
Yep. Atleast, Ver is good and his engine survived
There arenāt any penalties (as of now) for violating the cost cap. I think itāll be enforced next year
If Mercedes are worried and RB also - I am almost sure they will be enforced from this year
Heck do you remember 2 races (I think) ago when on radio
MB asked to recover a carbon element from their front wing that fell on the track
If they care about something like this š
But, that might not be because of Cost Cap. I think itās because of the Triple Header where the same components must last you for 3 races. So every bit of carbon is important
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Hello all, I buy Verstappen the best ahah but 10 000 000 for upgrade it's normal? š
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Has anyone seen the interview Russell did with Lawrence Barretto. Seems as if George has already been told the Mercedes seat is his. When asked the question on his future it seems George's body language and demeanor says he might be in that Mercedes seat next season.
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Haven't seen it but I'm not surprised having listened Toto say he will guarantee a seat in another team to bottas for next year if they sack him
Why would you say that if you are not going to sack him?
Is this the only f1 discord that people use or is there more
That one is specific for F1 clash, Iām sure there are other dedicated ones
Yeah I thought I used to be in a another sever but I can barely find that anymore
Is anyone from indonesia
fortunately sanity saw through ; RBR have embarrassed themselves massively over this, I really don't see how their stock can go much lower in the paddock at this point
Karen Horner really needs to stand up to Marko at some point.
Toto has a fair share also š
FER is going to suffer so much this weekend
You mean as any weekend? š¤£š¤£
Heās always slow in FP. He can turn up things in Quali and the race is no joke either
Who is FER?
Russell out and Checo P11 NOOOOO
Brutal š¤¦
Yep. The RB a second seat curse
I think he was on old tyres tho
But tbh, RB was sandbagging real hard with Max
Poor russellš¢
Yup. It's always a struggle in the no. 2 car
But he still won and got a podium. So heās better than the rest atleast
Or maybe it's just not as good as the first one š
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Well, the 2nd driver doesnāt get all the new spec parts. Checo didnāt. He didnāt get a new front wing, rear wing, among other things
Looks like it.
That was a decent lap time. Wow
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This q2 is going to be annoying without russell
this is boring guys
Q2 is annoying with Rosberg š¤£
something must happen now or imma take a nap
Personally, I already miss the sprint format weekend. Yesterday was boring, and even as a F1 fan of over 30 years, I still find Saturday qually a whole load of watching just to see the last 2 minutes of each Q session.
Sprint quli format is not that ideal but I want more of it. because this format now can be a bit boring depending on the circuit they are inn.
mr.gp2 typing
It's impossible to beat lewis at the 3rd sector
Hope they remove this start on what tyres you Q on in Q2 soon. Mostly only Merc & RB who can do it and get further advantages in the race cuz of it.
true
Fernandooooo

Well mate you can't compare Mercedes / red bull with alpine

Rip sainz
its master blan
Ultimate Murray-ism
Last corner š¢
oh, I suddenly felt bit more awake now
everybody talking about Sainz being more consistent lol
Happy Mc Lacren noises
lol you mean Max fans
Whyš
because most of the people on the circuit is max fans
all those orange people cheering
We'll they don't have reason to be happy š¤·š»āāļø
And at the end they don't win nothing š
what you mean they dont win nothing
They literally lose everything at every sport
whatttttttttt
thats a big statment to fill inn mate
Holland is one of the greatest country when it comes to sport whatttt
At football they was expected as darkhorses and end up losing to czech republic š
Lmao that's a cap
Euros dont prove anything, the result is always vary
They didn't win a trophy since dinosaur era
Your arguments are pointless man
like Italty havent won in 50 years
your arguments is totally useless
Italy literally won 3 week ago
No lol they won world cup 2006š
We were talking about Euros not WC, again your arguments are pointless
dont shift to another theme
Still no trophy even in wc / euroš
And what are you even trying to say? Almost no countries achieve so much trophies.
Y'all can argue football in #šāoff-topic-and-memes
Okej
Surprising that Max chose to start on softs tomorrow
Norris!
No problem for that
I cant duel anyone, is it only a problem for me???
Untill bono says hammer time
Update the app
I wonder why mercs used med
Strategy advantage. And also 1 new set for Q3, I think
Ye
Maybe itās a 2 stop for everyone. Maybe the RB can pull away at start and build a gap for Free pit stop
Not sure what Redbull are thinking to start on softs. I think a major disadvantage.
prob gonna go for 1 stop
Sir Lewis Goatmilton own Budapest š
if its going to be like this tomorrow
Red Bull is going to struggle
Like they are on soft.....
Red bull was also on super soft man
no
They choose soft on q2 which means they gotta use soft tomorrow
Mercs used Med
Let's see
if its starts like this Red Bull going to be heavily rely on the drivers to keep the tyres going.
In these track temperatures softs are going to melt.
yup
Hamilton is such a d*ck seriously
Made me remember last race in Abu Dhabi when he drove slow on purpose hoping cars behind would mess up Nico's race. Bad sportsmanship.
If you think redbull would have not done the same thing. You donāt know how Horner thinks.
Horner and Toto do the same thing.
Merc 1/2š¤©
Cry
Lewis simp. Beta for a narcissist š
Would not surprise me if Horner goes to the stewards.
Mercedes fan*
Ham is so dirty today
At least hamilton shake his hand to max
Am a ham fan but I hope he gets a penalty for poor sportsmanship
Stop the cap you are not lewis fanš
I rather he gets pole properly not like this
Slowing your rival down
People acting like Redbull would have not done the same thing. š¤¦āāļø
Literally all drivers was slow bad track conditions
Exactly lol shumacker did it vs alonso š
I agree⦠if itās Red Bull, they wonāt do the same thing ham did
Yeah well I don't think bad sportsmanship on track like that should be rewarded and he's even done it towards his own team before. Doesn't matter to me who does it, but it's fine if you like it š
Potential penalty coming for ham
They 100% would have.
Hope so. Don't wanna see BS like that.
All the boos coming for ham
Donāt worry. Horner already on it. š
I didnāt expect ham to do it
Most def š But FIA seems to like Mercs too much so will prolly fall on deaf ears
Maybe Mercs earn FIA the most money?
Fans call it bad sportsmanship. Toto and Horner call it āstrategyā. š
And Lewis. You heard his British countryman interviewing him after and attacking the booers, and all we heard after last race from Sky was how fair Lewis is as a driver when he has single handidly ruined 3 podiums/wins for his only competitors RB recently and used to be involved in alot when he had actual competition and not only Bottas š
Imagine Hamilton fans not seeing how reckless he actually can be as soon as there is any form of competition pressuring him
Exactly. He has quite a history but often got away with it cuz of his name and being British. But also some people like stuff like that and doing whatever to win, which is fine by me if they think that way. But I don't and will whine when I see unsportsmanlike stuff in sports I care about.
Look at what he did to Albon, took him out on his first podium but if you look in every āracing incidentā heās been involved in he always somehow under steers into them to take podium, did it to max, did it to Albon, heās done it a bunch and the fia let him walk free
Mate they can overtake himš
Albon x2 as well š And poor Nico who always was too kind and backed off.
Lmao they literally wasn't lewis fault
People shouldnāt be too kind to him, heās not the same to others
So Lewis āundersteeringā into them isnāt his fault? A lot of them hes tryna shoot for the apex knowing he isnāt making it
Again I ask the question. What world champion has not done some aggressive dirty driving.
He got penalties for those incidents but OK... š
Max is aggressive everytime lol
But nobody talk about that
Tomorrowās race will be lit atleast from a strategy purpose. Max and Checo and the rest of Top 10 on softs and HAMBOT on Mediujs
Vettel treated Webber quite bad as well š But he was fair in the racing at least imo and didn't ruin other drivers Q's on purpose.
Wym? People talk about it all the time? In fact he gets slated for it a lot of the time compared to golden boy Lewis who canāt do anything wrong
Yup. But people donāt seem to see it because they donāt like Lewis personality.
I talk about that. I used to dislike Max alot cuz he drove dirty af his first 2 years in RB. But he has 0 penalty points now... there's a difference between being aggressive and doing stuff towards others that warrants penalties.
Max WAS aggressive when he was younger. Nearly half the age of Lewis. He isnāt dirty anymore lol. Yes, Imola, Spain, were aggressive, but since Max was alongside, and he left enough space on the outside, it wasnāt dirty. Punting your WDC rival into the wall without leaving space on the outside, is aggressive and dirty
So if Max was the one in front. Do you really believe Horner would have told him to not hold Lewis up.
Every F1 driver needs to be aggressive to win lol
When have we seen what happened today before when it's for pole?
Yeah, because it would be unsportsmanlike. RB doesnāt do dirty. Also, it made one of your competitors lose their shot. Itās clearly worthy of a penalty, what Lewis did, even if Max had done it
Imma eat dinner now so you know if you tag me and I don't respond in a while!
Donāt think Iāve ever seen Merc and RB that close in q3 for the final lap time for this to happen. I may be wrong.
Lol. Happy dinner Alonso.
Bahrain, Imola, Spain, Austria, Styria, etc. would like to disagree
They were close there
Obviously you havenāt watch F1 long enough š. Mercedes and RB do the same thing to each other. Whether on track or off.
Not that close. They where meters apart here. In this instances they where a bit farther apart.
Fact
Tf you saying he literally push lewis of at imola
He didnāt push Lewis off. First, the corner was really narrow. Mostly one car could pass. Max was ahead by the time they got to the corner. Also, just like every other driver did later in the race, Lewis shouldāve backed off, stayed behind Max and not lost a lot of bodywork. He shouldāve attacked later in the race, or even later in the same lap
Ffs so many excuses can't you just accept that max is aggressive +dirty
Everyone in f1 is dirty that's what f1 is
Every other driver with a brain does what Lewis does there. And any other driver does it there wouldn't be any uproar in here. That's F1 qualifying tactics/gamesmanship.
Race predictions : I say the 2 stop strategy as happened in 2019
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Are the people still complaining in here about Hamilton at Silverstone ignorant or racist? Just checking.
he was penalized for hitting Albon in Brazil ; it was entirely his fault and he fully copped to it. Hamilton like any racing driver is not perfect. Until now he's let Max throw out his elbows and treated him with kid gloves ; at Silverstone after Max's antics on Saturday and throughout the first lap he decided he wasn't going to just sit back. He set up that passing move over several corners, it was then or never - Max kept his elbows out, collision happened. Racing incident. Move on. It always takes two to tango.
Sadly RBR decided much to the surprise of the entire grid to try and drag the sport down.
Because Marko and Karen are basically butthurt

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I think Tsunodaās consistency stat needs to be about 4 - the guy can be electric or so bad!!
Do you remember Hungary 2007 Quali? Still nowadays people call Alonso toxic for that. Lewis just did the same thing today
I'm not a fan of Hamilton, but this time he didn't do almost nothing wrong - see here the whole lap. He was actually doing fine and Perez screwed up in the end
he didn't though ; this is complete nonsense ; the cars on the outlap were pretty much all evenly spaced except for Norris who left a fairly sizeable gap to Alonso. Everyone else was backed up into a procession. Hamilton's outlap was actually quicker than his first in Q3. Red Bull made a massive error, even Horner admitted they ballsed up.
Also what Alonso did was completely different ; he sat in the pit stall to stop Hamilton getting a shot at a lap.
Hamilton went like a snail on purpose in the pitlane so the Red Bulls almost stod still behind him.
he was following Bottas ; who was following the car in front. Made absolutely no difference to where they ended up.
absolutely much ado about nothing
Bottas played his part as well. Was alot more behind Ocon than the other cars where to each other starting the lap if that track position video was correct.
The lenghts you go š Just accept Hamilton has been a rotten egg two GP's in a row now and stop simping.
see the driver tracker above. facts actually show you're just wrong. The only big gap that was left was Norris to Alonso, everyone else was in a line. RBR shot themselves in the foot by going out last, even Horner admitted it. Try and grow up.
The 3-4 cars in front had less distance on the straight between each other than the Mercs made sure to have according to that tracker. I agree it was naive by RB to think that Mercs would play fair, but you seem to lack any ability to admit that Hamilton is dirty. I would admit it and be annoyed with Max if he did the same. You can only see one side and are far too biased which you have shown now two weekends in a row here.
Take a lonnng look in the mirror friend. Horner admitted that RBR got it all wrong. They put themselves at the back of a pack that was already going out late. There's literally nothing Hamilton did wrong, his outlap was quicker than the previous one he did. The facts I'm afraid are entirely against you.
Mercedes are not in charge of releasing Red Bulls cars . . .as far as I know.
besides I don't get the issue tbh ; only Perez was asleep at the wheel / not getting enough info from his engineer
I just told you I agreed RB messed up and were naive š Doesn't change the fact that Merc were unsportsmanlike and made sure that A: Max wouldn't be able to heat his tyres the way he wanted and B: hoping the time would run out. As the tracker clearly shows they waited longer to follow the cars in front who made the first corner before they even started the lap while the other cars were closer.
Perez couldn't had done anything different once out since he was closer to Max starting his lap than anyone else, showing he becane desperate and had no more time and room.
Try to not be so biased and you can see that as well.
The first corner is utterly irrelevant ; the cars follow each other around the track at basically similar gaps ; far enough to get a clear run with a slight tow but no aero disturbance. They are almost all uniform bar Norris. Perez got shafted by Verstappen who wanted his gap. Every driver in front of Perez wanted their gap and is entitled to it. Red Bull messed up. That's it.
Max got a faster lap in, best lap he could do ; Perez didn't. Red Bull at fault.
Gamesmanship not unsportsmanlike. Just my opinion and the opinion of Checo's engineer. š
You are impossible š It's all there to see you are wrong. And once again I agreed RB were naive, but the fact you can't even accept that Lewis might be at fault for anything is nothing but silly.
Why are you blaming Lewis? Lewis is following Bottas. Your agenda is very clear to see.
There is one thing at fault ; the RBR team.
Zzz bye seriously. You have to be trolling at this point.
Honestly its a shame you have to go there. You have an inherent bias against Hamilton which weāll just for hopes sake put down to jealousy or rivalry with your favorite team /driver. The data is there above. Red Bull put themselves in an untenable position. Full stop.
when even the team principal puts his hands up you kinda have to admit you're wrong I'm afraid š
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Ham, Bot, Ver - could be wrong but feel like Merc have the car ahead again now
Yeah, but theyāre on the slower tyres. The 2 stop is always faster in places like Hungary, and stuff
Iām not sure RB can pull it off this time. The Mercedes works quite well on medium and should be okay for a 1 stopper, but it would be great if RB actually go In the summer break leading both championships
Quite hard to overtake tho..
But, if they get a good start, they could pass them. And the track is slightly overtake able. Not like Monaco, but somewhat good
They can overtake in the DRS zones I guess. I wouldn't be surprised if PƩrez goes 1 stopper and Max 2
Itāll be smth like France
Exactly
Perez looong first stint till the last lap. He then comes in, pits last lap and gets P3
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Ver/RBR could've also avoided it by sending Max out ahead of Lewis. Just sayin'.
(Ham was never going to just let Max get a tow off him, either, that'd just be stupid)
Bot, Per, Gasly.
Verstappen takes out Hamilton at the first possible opportunity.
Lmao. It would be funny, but certainly, RB/Max wonāt throw WDC just for petty revenge
I mean, it wouldn't be funny because it's pretty dangerous. But Karen Horner has spent the last fortnight moaning so I wouldn't be surprised.
Tow isn't a thing in Hungaroring really.
Fair point.
Either way, just get out in front of Ham and you got no complaints then. If the shoe was on the other foot the exact same thing happens. It's just that people like to hate Ham.
Red Bull were naive for sure. They should've known Mercs would jump on the chance if given. I don't like to hate HAM and I don't hate him, but always disliked him as a person. And this was far from the first time he acted unsportsmanlike. People have just forgot alot since he's basically been alone on track these last years cuz of a superior car and a teammate who is miles worse.
You're spot on @crude kiln
Summed up perfectly.
Fantastic viewing this season though. Loving it.
Englishman so Lewis is my guy, but so many races i've just turned off over the last few seasons. Can't take my eyes off it this year. Brilliant.
I feel bad for bottas being hams team mate
For sure a great season so far! I just want a bit more fair racing than last weekend and so far this one š I respect Lewis alot as a driver and even tho I'm tired of the Merc dominance I have no other issues when he wins fair and square.
Was it unfair though? I mean, isn't that qualifying tactics? Max would've (and would've been right) to do the same.
To me it was unsportsmanlike. Would like to at least see some chivalry in F1 š And idk if Max or anyone else would had done the same. Can't remember seeing it before š¤
But I would had been annoyed with Max too if he had done the same
There's a lot of people saying Alo did it in 07. I see where you're coming from though.
(I wasn't watching F1 as hardcore back then as I am now so can't comment on Alo).
I wonder whoās getting bottasās seat ngl
Russell š
Yeah I didn't watch F1 back then either but seen many mention it now. Yeah lets hope Russell gets it and that he can compete more with Lewis than Bottas has.
I think Max has a great shot today to be fair. Let's see what he can do on the softs.
Bottas definitely is a good driver but Russel deserves that seat more
Russel definitely has the most enjoyable personality on track and seeing him at merc after his performance in a car he couldnāt fit in was a blast
Was the best weekend in years. Was glued in front of all sessions and saw many others say they watched all sessions as well for the first time in a long time
Just to see Russell in Merc
RB changed Max's PU but he won't get a penalty
So was i, I normally just watch the highlights but that weekend I watched it all and was glued to it and rooting for him so much
Yeah, because itās Maxās 3rd allowed engine of the year without penalties. Maybe Max will take a grid penalty later in the season when he needs a new PU. Or maybe Honda will try and fix the 2nd PU with more time
Can they use the 1st PU later?
Maybe in a track like Monaco where you don't need power
why is the game not working today yesterday too
I donāt like Ham, I respect him but this time they are bashing him for no reason, see the actual lap here
Could he go out a bit faster from the pits? Possibly. But that wasnāt the reason that Perez didnāt get a lap in though. It was plain and simple a tactics mistake by RB and they did a few of those this year in Q3 already
Maybe, but Monaco is already over lol. I donāt think there are any more circuits which donāt require power
Already discussed and (imo) debunked this late last night if you scroll up. But as I've said several times, sure RB were naive, but I still think it was dirty by the Mercs and would had thought the same if it was RB or any other team.
Hello
True. Probably Singapore if it wasn't cancelled. Most likely Max will receive a penalty later in the season
After Silverstone. Iāve never been so excited to see a start of a race. Iām really hoping for a clean exciting race.
Prediction: Ham-Bot-Ver. Or Bottas for the win.
The difference in strategy will be a huge factor this race. I don't see Bottas 2nd tho... At least not when James will tell him that his current pace is good š
The F1 gods answering our prayers for a wet race
Seb P7 today heard it hear first
Rain incoming. I think this will affect Mercedes strategy
They were ready for a 1 stopper in dry
I wonder what this will do for Sainz.
Mercedes has to be the most disliked sports team in the world atm š
Great move Bottas š
I donāt think he meant to take out the rival but yeah, bad driving.
Red flag
PER is out
4 car out
So now bottas takes out 3
Bottas is definitely a good job keeping his mercedes seat
Sitting there
No problem 30 sec penalty
He's already out fam
what a f**king disaster
Shumacker p10
Russell p8
Latifi p6
Vettel p3
Ocon p2š
Hamilton for the win
Bottas did Verstappen this time. What the?!
He didnāt. He did Lando.
And he actually used Norris to do it ā¦.
2nd and 3rd is for the fight
Bottas lost his Seat , but Won mercedes the championship
Well done Mercedes well played you idiot bottas
Do you really believe he did that on purpose to wipe out Max? Come onā¦
Bottas disasterclass
Well technically he took out both RB's. Merc keep ruining F1 š So boring I can't even.
Would that surprise you? Second race kn a row
@tulip drum i think you should take over toto's place
I see all the RB fans triggered š
Horrible mistake by Bottas. But Iām sure it was not intentional.
@jaunty cave it was because he braked at least 120 ft too late
Hamilton the luckiest driver ever!
Lol.
Im from Finland and even i think Bottas is idiot
Not intentional. If thatās what you believe. I guess your clueless.
Intentionally maybe not, but to know there are still people out there saying Bottas is a good driver... š
Not sure if bottass was aiming for Norris or Ham or Vet š
Bottas the only one who brake late
If Mazepin did what Bottas did .... weād be all calling for his head.
Boattasā start as well. Horrendous.
Bottas took Perez out too. Epic work
i think lewis should retire himself by doing a spin
Indeed Cool
Stroll also forget whwre the brake padel was š
Vettel for a podium!
There goes my fantasy this week
@heady sonnet so does mine
Absolute carnage š
F1 race is like f1 crash this weekend lol
Bits of carbon fibre everywhere.
Haha
Laughed when I saw the replay from his car š So bad
Pit Lane action as well. What a clusterfuck:
Well... 1 thing for sure...
Ppl who did bet on the race...
They lost some money š
@broken quartz go and get yourself a steward seat
Wet track always difficult
Yeah bottas couldn't stop he was so close
@tulip drum difficult, yes. But this is just..... rookie stuff š
Wait for another chaos on the 2 restart
Just hope Ham keeps out the way.
Yuuki has to kmz hamilton for redbull seat
I think it's called greed lol bottas wanted to be infront what was he trying to go right through lando
Latifi the goat p6š
vettel has to send Hamilton into the wall at T2
Greed/rookie - tometo/tomato
Give me your tears
Norris is not allowed this at all.
Not often we see most of the drivers that are P5 - P10 there š
What if all cars crashes end of race weekend
aaaaahh fffffff***
Williams/Hass or Alfa romeo will finish on point š
They will go for a Flintstones race
Lando out too
Was it Bottas or Landoās fault?
Mercedes saving the championship know crashing every week the rivals?
Fcking lucky stupid lullu!
I hope Vettel takes him out straight!
Bottas but he couldn't stop
Thanks
Bottas brake pedal fell off lol
Lol
He could tho...
Thats what they say....
Bottas his car just blocked
Bottas has turned into a great Mercedes 2nd driver over the past few weeks. Lol
He try mate do you know how a f1 car is made?
Bottas bad start picked up speed and didn't stop
No his car blocked
Bottas definitely got the contract renewal with taking out 3 of the cars that could possibly pressure and over take Lewis
So he could not stop
Bottas took out all the rivals cause toto said
no he does not
Now max is send from p3 to p13
LMAO
Wet, cold tyres, full car... You do not brake straight behind someone else. Basic physics rules lol
@frank harbor he's gonna win this
āBottas execute order 66ā
LOL
yeah
Max? I really hope
lol
He had a pretty good start
Bottas aināt loosing his seat after that little āaccidentā toto is defo keeping him on as fall guy
Max and ham had a great start and checo aswell
Jup!
āBottas this is toto you want that seat? Drive to surviveā
Jup
God the stupidity of it all tho
Netflix breathing intensify š
That was quick š±š
@cinder pendant š¤£
āLewis giggling in the backgroundā sorry guys this was a very unlucky accident and unfortunately took out both bulls which was definitely gonna have a good shot
I know itās not on purpose but god damn it seems it when you look at it
Bottas was seen in the merc office 1 min ago signing his new contract
67 laps and everyone already thinks ham is going to win
@river heron if it was anyone else, I could believe it. But we're speaking of Bottas here... It's not like he was brains behind the wheel during his F1 career.
āMission failed successfullyā
This race seems that will be so good
It makes me laugh that itās on turn 1 too like they all got good starts, Bottas brakes too late and all of a sudden thereās 1 less red bull on the field for Lewis to worry about
Bottas only applied breaking on the 100 mark where everyone else was already decelerating
hey is norris out?
Yes
nooooo
Nah Iām joking but idk what happening with his car
He's out
Lando is out
ohh thank god
But he did it too late, he legit shot straight ahead, smacked in the back of the mclaren because yet again he started to stop too late
Car was retired

Bottas needs to retire from f1 or just take out Hamilton on his last race
2 min yo the restart
2 Mercedes lost their braking pedal
both the mclarens started really well espesialy ricciardo he gained a lot of positions in the start
The race has become a f1 open lobby
Or you should quit f1 community
lol yes
It was a really good start for riccairdo
yes
he is my fav driver
ricciardo
Someoneās got their Hamilton boxers in a twist
Something we will never see again is both Williams in the points
Hope George will not bottle it
History show Williams is one of the greatest teams ever.
Watch max fly with duck taped car repairs š¤£
i wish ricciardo finishes on good points today
Just put Russel in the merc already, get Bottas out of here, give haas money to make a decent car for once too
lol hehe
Bottas has pretty much became albon now
āMax this is chris, itās time for drift style repairsā
Now, go Yuki kamikaze mode
Duct tape duct tape
but he perfomed really well in the last race
Formation lap
hey ricciardo is still in this right?
Yuki is gonna smash the grid apart and then secure p1 for him
Yeah
Bottas is a joke.
lol
I agree
I thought both mclarens are out?
no
Would love that
Signing new contract this afternoon taking out two redbulls
Yuki goes hulk mode securing his seat for haas
Riccairdo had a bit of damage compared to lando
Ah right 12th
yup its ricciardo
I would love to see Russell in a Mercedes
he would have won in sakhir
I think everyone would love that
Too bad for Lando though
Hes defo taking bottasās seat
Helmut telling Yuki to crash into Lewis
I want to see Albon back at rb
Used as a bowling ball
That boys potential is being held back so bad
i want to see ricciardo in rb
āYuki youāve got an opening, take out Lewis and secure your place sonā
Don't see that happening while Lewis is there. Russel is not the perfect #2 driver.
I want to see him back but he doesnāt really suit the redbull
No no no albon was not good for rb
Honestly scrap Perez and give it back to Daniel
Omgghhhhhh
Yeah his personality is more what I watch him for
Yes indeed.
Lol at Hamilton
hamilton is only one
Everyone pitting for mediums
Russell will lead
Hamilton gets overtaken by Russel?
Russell 2nd šššššš
Ham only one with inter tyres
I think so
Hamilton box
Iām loving the excitement of this race.
Hamilton š¤¦āāļø
Ham you fool lol
Ffs russell
Imagine Russel wins this race and itās Hamilton that looses his seat to Russel
He have problems
Using your f1 clash strategy here
ocon back in p2
Oh no lol
My clash strat is to piledrive into turn 1 and get rid of people
Oh god
He's 7
Track is dry lol well done Mercedes š¤£
Russell with his points curse
Wonder if toto has been watching my games
Latifi p3
P2
Ham p14
ocon leads š
Latifi p3
Hey all
While we enjoy the chaos together, let's try to keep it family friendly š¤
Russell problems
Incredible how Mercedes threw up Hamilton's chance to get the Championships lead
Poor George
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Still a long race
Ham still asking if he is last lmao
This race is a mess
Wow Lewis and Merc š¤¦āāļø
What was he thinking inter on dry track
A slight mess lol
Itās lewis decision
Even tho ham will fight till the end
Hamilton is smurfing ban him
Hamilton is close now
During formation lap the team canāt communicate with the driver
Russell crash with someone
Hamilton on the radio asking if heās last š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Before losing all the places
Max still has a damaged car with duct tape
Watch out who ever is in front of ham, heās gonna under steer for the apex again
Now time for Max to accidentally take ham out
6 car out rn
sainz or ricciardo one of them is gonna win this
Hamilton loves the rear of the red bulls
This would be the highlight
or maybe vettel
Lewis will still podium š¤·š»āāļø
What can he say, heās always had a thing for peoples back end
If I were Max I would do that
Ham wants to retire max again
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Itās almost like Hamilton fans canāt take a joke
Man need to get over that crash.
Would only be fair š
Ham fans are quite lower than his haters , its okay for them to not be able to take a joke @river heron
Hoping for seb on the podium
Ask Albon hes still sore from that back ending Hamilton gave him
hamilton fastest lap
Who would think we'd ever see Latifi in third
Seb for the win would be š
Seb deserves a podium just for how nice he actually is, one of the most genuine people ever
Tsunoda p4 lol
Albon will come back just to take him out
Tsunoda will beat ham now
Heās probably the most nice on the grid
āAlbon itās Chris here, steal Perezās car and do what you must for that seatā
Latini p3
āAlbon you know the drillā
Schumacher in the points š¤£
If he comes near to seb seb will push him with 300 km/h against a wall. And why? Cause he deserves it!
Weird thing to say after everyoneās been crying about that crash from Silverstone all week. But hey ho š
Vettel definitely winning this one wht you think
Micks about to be out the points
Why every time Russell has the chance of getting points he has a problem?
Watch gio get wiped out by Hamilton
Albon is already ready on the sim tryna predict a clean crash
Merc asking for trouble so hopefully they got the answer they deserve.
Heās just waiting for that seat now
Grow up.
2 races where theyāve āaccidentallyā taken out red bull
Ham flying
Come on Seb ....
And here we see a Hamilton fan blind to a joke
So putting the leader in the wall and to the hospital gives +10s but speeding in the pitlane gives 10s stop and go š
Joking about putting people into barriers at high speeds. Funny stuff.
and weāll done Mick holding them all up!!!
FIA forgot to go to specs savers before the race
They asked toto first what to do
I hope bottas gets penalised for the t1 incident
Via email š
See the difference in joking about it and then Hamilton actually doing it and forcing max to endure a 51g crash and only being given a 10s penalty
Seb has great chances of winning this
Same as ham did last week and bot today.... chrashing rivals to get fresh air
Yeah. Nobody else has ever been involved in a crash before, just Hamilton.
We all know Mercedes can't handle pressure
If you think either of those incidents were done on purpose youāre crazy.
Every time they are under pressure the crash
Itās funny because Hamilton has a thing for the rear end of people who are in front of him, itās almost like a 7 time world champion should be held to a higher standard
2 times merc in a row, exactly when they are under champ pressure....
But everytime their poster boy isnāt doing too well they āaccidentallyā crash out their rivals
Hamilton should have made it more obvious like the GOAT did!
Ocon and Latifi looking like the might actually get themselves a real "Stroll Podium" š
Of course Hamilton on the radio complaining about grip
āToto this is Lewis my tires arenāt doing too well, time for the safety car trick?ā
If Max does it, itās āfair racingā. And āsticking your elbows outā. Lewis does it heās a cheat. Obviously.
Max is amazing driver wow
No one said that, max was an aggressive driver and everyone knows it but Lewis is a 7 time champion so why does he still make mistakes that you expect from people like yuki?
Did you see that overtake
Loving MSCās driving today
Everyone makes mistakes. Theyāre human, mate.
Max's car isnt looking that bad honestly
Heās got some good defending
Iām not even gonna humour this anymore
Theyāve gotta do what theyāve gotta do
Duct tape never fails.
Atleast he is still in the race
Kimi 10 second penalty
Makes the race interesting
Latifi doing the race of his life
Botas should get a ban
Duct tape is stronger than carbon fibre I swear, might aswell start making haasās cars out of it
That aināt gonna happen, toto is gonna be sending 19 emails to the fia with graphs and everything
He wiped out 4 others canāt get away with it
Karen Horner gonna have Albon mimicking Bottasā start in the morning.
See^ always gotta resort to calling him a Karen for him wanting punishment for dangerous driving
And I canāt take a joke? Anyway, I thought you were going?
L
Latifi da goat
Vettel takes this today p1
By default
Norris was so consistent then this happens
You know toto is already sitting Bottas on his lap asking him what he wants for next year like Santa Claus
Probably sat him down to congratulate him
Lewis put hard tyers
I donāt know whatās funnier, this race or the monza qualifier where everyone was just crawling around the track
Lmao
Hamilton is in the pits already š
Mercedes trying everything today
He overtake them both
They will pit ham again shortly for wets
You know hes gonna go through every way to try and beat them again
Next thing you know Bottas will come back out in the safety car and take out the people behind ham
Letās goooo
Ham pushing hard
He's p10 mate
P9
Already +5 from max
Yuki box p7
Carlos getting fuck by a shit strategy
Goatifi box
Ham is going to win again
@crude kiln i hope you know what to do when ham comes next to you š
Latfiif still p7 after the box but lost vs tsunoda
Donāt say that, itās like a story to tell kidsā if you misbehave Hamilton is gonna come send you flying off trackā
Ham is not going to slow down
Everything vs merc is legal & allowed š
Think heās on a 2 stop
I wish, they deserve it after these past 2 weekends
Yeah still has fresh mediums
Max car has taken too much he struggling
Ocon still leading yes
He must be feeling lucky
Ham p7
Letās hope that little crash didnāt cause too much to the rb, their on their last PU, theyāre shelling out tons from last weekend
Send my AI powers to him š
I think itās done a lot to the rb you can see max struggling
i hope ricciardo gets good points
Thanks bottas you idiot for not braking
Letās hope the PU isnāt too damaged
What annoys me about the commentators on F1 is them saying this would be incredible if Hamilton wins! Itās obvious heās going to win because heās got a car thatās a second a lap quicker than everyone else š¤¦āāļø
Feels like Sainz making a mistake staying out this long... if Lewis overtakes him he will still manage to crawl over the line before Sainz since it's so hard to overtake
Iām pretty sure they have a be PU in the car
Well max has his last pu in the car rn so if they find too much damage on it then theyāll have to take penalty points for swapping it
Crash
thanks to bottas max is gonna loose to lewis
I think the one from the accident had a crack in it
They do cheecky moves
Like last week
That's a bad rule since they don't care it's cuz someone else put him in the wall. Budget cap doesn't take stuff like that into account as well. They should change those 2 things.
Bottas got the wrong person XD
They were supposed to get max
Gasly pit hamilton p6+f lap
They did get max look how he struggling
Lewis p5
Not yet tsunoda defending
Pit Sainz ffs......
Verstapan needs 10thš„²
Now he p5
Oh they just did when I wrote that about Sainz š
Ham is going to fight till the end
š¹
Georgeeewew p9
That was a great overtake tho
Russel points today plz
Russell lol look at that overtake
Msc p12š¢
Give that man a faster car he will get podium every race
Some good points for Williams today hopefully
Amen
Ham chasing for podium
Yeah they found a crack in it
Itās so dumb
How
He dropped down to p12 and now hes 5th
His car is too op
Seb put let's see if he will win vs occon
Seb pls win
Ham is a great driver tho although I'm pissed bottas you idiot
Ham is a great driver but the car is miles out of the league
Ocon full push
Itās made the races so boring recently
We want more races like moza last year
Perfect pit
Yeah that Mercedes cars fly
I just want a level playing field, they should a certain amount that can be spent on development of the car that makes it fair on all teams