🏎│real-f1-chat

[jaunty cave]

Here it comes

[sturdy moss]

No 🤣 but they will let him stay to the end of the season instead of kicking him tomorrow

[jaunty cave]

Bottas its james pls let lewis pass

If Mercedes win another constructors championship I would find it hard to just kick him out.

[opal galleon]

James it Bottas shut up

thats what I am hoping to hear once but for sure never gonna happen

[sturdy moss]

So you dont think George would do better?

[upbeat wedge]

On days like today bottas should be leading the GP and to often he's not

[opal galleon]

facts

[sturdy moss]

Leclerc win at this rate

[jaunty cave]

I didn’t say that. George is a fantastic driver and deserves a seat. But I just think it’s not set in stone as most people would think.

[opal galleon]

George is very unpatient. at some points toto gotta bring him in. If not they might lose a future world champion.

Lewis got 2 more years so not gonna be him

so bottas 100%

[mystic aurora]

+9 is defo a bad sign

[jaunty cave]

I agree. He should be leading. But he has been very important driver for Mercedes for the last few years.

[sturdy moss]

Bottas is a great number 2 when helping Lewis in little ways like qually etc but not good enough now merc have a proper fight for constructors

[night aspen]

Unfortunately

[upbeat wedge]

If RB had been more of a challenge he'd have been gone ages ago, having a safe number 2 wouldn't have cut it

[opal galleon]

not ages

[sturdy moss]

Look how he got out performed when George stepped in for one race

[opal galleon]

there is noo way they would swap george that early

[sturdy moss]

No but it would have been someone else

[mystic aurora]

Cash is King.

[opal galleon]

like george has been around for like 2-3 years so I dont think bottas would be gone for ages

[opal galleon]

you are the king

[mystic aurora]

🤣

[jaunty cave]

The name Stroll comes to mind when I see that phrase. 😂

[opal galleon]

oh

[mystic aurora]

Best live race chat so far mates.
Brilliant.

[fresh acorn]

pit again?!~

[sturdy moss]

Mazespin…Latifi

[crude kiln]

Bit odd strat for Perez today.. 🤔

[hearty anvil]

What is happening to Checo?

[fresh acorn]

why???

[opal galleon]

perez pitted very early

[sturdy moss]

It’s free to air in uk so more people watching I guess

[hearty anvil]

He stopped too early with hards

[elder flicker]

New set of Mediums for Perez (?)

[opal galleon]

even bottas complaining not gonna make it to the end so perez to the end nope

he needed that 2 sstop

team order "do not fight Lewis"

[upbeat wedge]

Bottas follows order!

[opal galleon]

Lord Vader

[elder flicker]

Well considering that the last GP many drivers lost the front left 1 lap before finish haaa, it's better change wells than died

[hearty anvil]

Bottas crashes with Lewis like Nico in Spain

[crude kiln]

Yes and that was odd as well since he was on hards and pitted same time as medium drivers. And he is known for his tyre management and one stops

[opal galleon]

Finsh people are too nice

[elder flicker]

xDD

[opal galleon]

they dont have that f you in their mind

[hearty anvil]

Not Kimi 🤣

[opal galleon]

they are too nice

[opal galleon]

dont ruin it lol xD

[mystic aurora]

Ah. Brilliant.

[sturdy moss]

Imagine if Bottas miss understood “invert the cars” and crashed with Lewis so they both upside down 🤣

[upbeat wedge]

2 lap fight at the end!!

[opal galleon]

no in silverstone too no no

[sturdy moss]

Max 2nd in driver of the day 🤣

[sturdy beacon]

cry about it

[opal galleon]

nah its 10% for ham too

[upbeat wedge]

That's why they'll never have a point for it

[fresh acorn]

vote max!

[opal galleon]

I vote leclerc

[upbeat wedge]

I vote mazespin for not finishing last

[jaunty cave]

LeClerc deserves driver of the day.

[sturdy moss]

At least this isn’t formula E with fan boost!

[sturdy beacon]

why?

[fresh acorn]

can lec keep last 10 lap?

[upbeat wedge]

Gimmicky rubbish

[jaunty cave]

If your watching the race it explains why.

[sturdy beacon]

k?

[sturdy moss]

That gap is disappearing fast

[opal galleon]

oh damn

masterblan actually works wow binnnottoo

[fresh acorn]

ham 1 lap fast 0.5?!~

[hearty anvil]

This one is for Leclerc

[opal galleon]

Nah I actually think lewis will get 3 laps to overtake

He is getting closer too fast

[fresh acorn]

1 lap 1 sec

[hearty anvil]

He may have a blister

[upbeat wedge]

Within 2 seconds the dirty air will stop him

[sturdy beacon]

from doing what?

[sturdy moss]

1:29!!!!

[hearty anvil]

Just give me hope lol

[opal galleon]

goooooooooo ferrariiiiiiii

destroy brits for second time

[hearty anvil]

Tyres explode for Lewis like last year

[opal galleon]

oh

that would be epic

[hearty anvil]

Exactly

[fresh acorn]

3sec

[sturdy moss]

1 second +Drs should be enough

[opal galleon]

Bono is ready with the pizza'

gooooooo

[upbeat wedge]

2 back markers may give lec Drs as well

[opal galleon]

I am scared

this is getting close

[hearty anvil]

Lewis has more to lose than Charles

He shouldn't take a risk

[mystic aurora]

[sturdy moss]

Just throw it up the inside at cops. Bound to work eventually

[opal galleon]

thats gonna be penalty?

[upbeat wedge]

Catching perez 😳

[mystic aurora]

Looks to be

[fresh acorn]

i think will

[upbeat wedge]

Everything will be a penalty now

Inside 1 seconds

[fresh acorn]

0.8

[fading zephyr]

Im not a lewis fan but this really shows how fast he is

[opal galleon]

wowowo

[sturdy moss]

🤣

[jaunty cave]

Get in there Lewis!

[fresh acorn]

gg

[ruby seal]

HAMILTON LEADS

[humble canopy]

Honestly i'm a fan of no one but Hamilton winning brings no joy..

[opal galleon]

Bono the pizza!

[sturdy moss]

Kinda proves Horner wrong that it is an overtaking zone

[opal galleon]

damn the atmosphere around silverstone is soooooooo wowo

[lusty hornet]

Big Lewis

[fading zephyr]

This just proves that he is a fast and skilled driver

[jaunty cave]

Bono “Lewis you have a 10s penalty”. Lewis “no problem Bono, I got this”.

[upbeat wedge]

Bottas 10 seconds behind, that's why he has to move aside

[lusty hornet]

Crashes into rival gets no damage overtakes the pack wins home race for a record 8 times leaves

[uncut scarab]

Told you guys

[sturdy beacon]

there's nothing chad about that

[uncut scarab]

10sec penalty not enough

[sturdy beacon]

Wrong picture where's the homeless man

[lusty hornet]

Bro it’s all jokes hahaha dw

[uncut scarab]

Lewis can’t beat max. Only way to do that is by crashing

[crude kiln]

I'm no fan of these soft penalties. At this rate you benefit from taking your rivals out.

[hearty anvil]

Yeah I thought it would be a drive through

[sturdy beacon]

so you support cheating?

[upbeat wedge]

Too many penalties and no one overtakes

[sturdy moss]

They need to consider how much faster the Red bull and merc are than the rest

[crude kiln]

I don't believe that.

[jaunty cave]

Cry now

[opal galleon]

I wanted Norris for third D:

[lime abyss]

2022 new era, hope ferrari have a proper car

[ruby seal]

HAMILTON WINS

[elder flicker]

hmm gg

[hearty anvil]

Anyways Grande Sharl

[upbeat wedge]

So a Haas penalty would take seconds off there time?

[lime abyss]

should've won

[tawny sphinx]

Well love him or hate him, you gotta admit he can drive. Leclerc for driver of the day though

[fading zephyr]

Norris did good! The lack of sleep and trauma took this from him

[ruby seal]

hamilton wins despite 10 sec penalty

[opal galleon]

where did he get the flag from lol

[lime abyss]

i already knew 10s is nothing for him, he is too fast

[crude kiln]

Not very surprising 😆

[stuck fulcrum]

you mean the car is too fast

[ruby seal]

hmm yes

[uncut scarab]

I have been saying that all this while

[ruby seal]

lol

[upbeat wedge]

Tucked in his pants

[opal galleon]

oh

[lime abyss]

ferrari has a fresher tyre but 1s slower every lap

[uncut scarab]

Nobody believe

[ruby seal]

no he means the driver is to fast

[sturdy beacon]

has anyone seen hamilton sayign sorry to max for crashing into him/ no. hamilton is a jerk

[uncut scarab]

How stupid those people are

[sturdy moss]

Maybe max with the lead he had in championship should have yielded and fought later for the win

[ruby seal]

both reb bulls out of the points

[lime abyss]

mercs are too fast

perez got 1 pt

[lusty hornet]

Can’t upgrade pens Cus it’s a fast car

[tawny sphinx]

You gotta let that h8 go man. It's a waste of energy.

[upbeat wedge]

No he didnt

[ruby seal]

but he asked that whether max is safe or no

[sturdy beacon]

It's not hate it's something i noticed

[lusty hornet]

Agreed it’s nothing but can’t start having penalty’s that have affects based on the car

[lime abyss]

he didnt get fastest lap?

[ruby seal]

nope

[lusty hornet]

Gotta be top 10

[ruby seal]

he got it but no points for fastest lap

[crude kiln]

A Charles win was the only thing that could save this race. Now it felt just like the 7 seasons before again where everything goes Mercs way + they're fast 😂

Hope ppl don't start complaining again if Max goes on to win 3 straight again soon.

[lusty hornet]

No fastest lap point today

[upbeat wedge]

Outside top 10 so no point

[sturdy beacon]

I'm too lazy to explain why hamilton is a jerk soo. https://youtu.be/kq2E7LBClnY

[lime abyss]

oh no point for fastest lap?

[worldly pond]

Racers have to race. Sometimes they'll come out on top and sometimes they wont. Whichever way the day pans out be as gracious in victory as you would in defeat.

[jaunty cave]

The Lewis haters are still here. 😂.

[ruby seal]

lol

[sturdy moss]

Not if you out of top 10

[tawny sphinx]

Well he asked how he was driving into pit lane before restart, so he's shown concern. But since he believes it wasn't his fault, he won't apologize. He's a racing driver. None of them ever say sorry

[uncut scarab]

Yep cause he needs to crash max for the win

[sturdy beacon]

LMAO that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard

[upbeat wedge]

Imagine the prost, senna era with the modern day fans, they'd be tears every week

[crude kiln]

Dude, I could fire back on that so hard but not gonna sink to that level 😂 It's OK if you want him to win but you gotta understand many are tired of it as well

[lime torrent]

agree

[ruby seal]

he would have gotten the win either way

[tawny sphinx]

If that's the most stupid thing you've ever heard, maybe you should listen more

[sturdy beacon]

you basically agreed to cheating

[sturdy moss]

Yea fugi turn 1 🤣

[jaunty cave]

Just supporting my driver.

[sturdy beacon]

Why should I?

[lime torrent]

no

[uncut scarab]

Even the commentators are biased

Not surprisingly

[lime torrent]

im a max fan

[tawny sphinx]

I'm not getting into a slanging match with you. It's (you're) not worth it

[sturdy beacon]

Then why are you agreeing to someone saying that crashign into him is the only option?

[lime torrent]

because thats what hamilton does. he wins by cheating

[upbeat wedge]

And that was in retaliation for prost getting him dq previously, that was proper politics

[ruby seal]

hamilton is gonna win the championship

[sturdy beacon]

Yes exactly

[ruby seal]

lol

[sturdy beacon]

By cheating adn getting away with it

[ruby seal]

very funny

[hearty anvil]

Bahrain and now here

[jaunty cave]

You clearly don’t know what a racing driver is. Take the gap when offered to you. I ask the question what would Senna or MSC do?

[sturdy moss]

Yea but it was the only 100% guarantee of the title if Prost didn’t beat him so if they both do t finish then title is his

[lime torrent]

like in germany 2018

[ruby seal]

he also got the punishment he got 10 sec penalty which is huge

[sturdy beacon]

not if he has the best car of them

[sturdy moss]

I doubt it was intentional to hit max, Lewis could have got a DNF from that too

[sturdy beacon]

he has a huge advantage just by having the mercedes

[ruby seal]

he doesnt have the best car the best car is RB now

[tawny sphinx]

Very true

[sturdy moss]

And max has a huge advantage by being in a red bull

[ruby seal]

yes

and what abt checko 😂

[sturdy beacon]

I don't think Hamilton would crash from that maneuvre

[crude kiln]

By calling some random people out 😅 Don't think ppl "hate" too much here now considering Lewis sent his rival into the wall and got a penalty that didn't exactly matter. Thought ppl would be alot more mad tbh 🙈

[sturdy moss]

Slightly different angle and his suspension is gone

[sturdy beacon]

not everyone has the same skill

[ruby seal]

and the crashing was max faulr

he cut into lewis

[sturdy beacon]

You're blind lmao

[ruby seal]

thats what u think

[sturdy beacon]

because it's true

[sturdy moss]

Max could have avoided it but so could Lewis, max was closer to racing line

[ruby seal]

hmm yes

i am impressed with ricciardo

[opal galleon]

stop coming here sending out bs assumption

[crude kiln]

Lewis cut into him as well and Max was ahead = penalty.

[ruby seal]

he held sainz for a long time

[sturdy beacon]

You're mad

[worldly pond]

No point trying to logically debate with someone who's blinkers are on.

[lime torrent]

hamilton just wants to win by force

[opal galleon]

lol I am happy, it was close fight. And I like McLaren. You are the one complaining for the past 2h. Looks desperat so sad. And you are making pointless arguments.

[sturdy moss]

Win at all costs is what winners do

[ruby seal]

ricciardo held sainz behind him for more than 20 laps

[sturdy beacon]

Past 2 hours? i was watching the race in those 2 hours.

[lime abyss]

hope this week end with good news, george to mercs

[lime torrent]

you can race but not purposely crash into your rival

[hearty anvil]

Charles had to win for Jules

[ruby seal]

that was a mistake

[sturdy moss]

It was a crash that was Lewis fault but you can’t say it deliberate

[lime torrent]

he done it to albon before, twice

[ruby seal]

all the red bulls try to mess with him.....thats what they get

[lime torrent]

why not? they want to fight as well

[ruby seal]

but they fight too hard

[lime torrent]

i agree lewis is a good driver but i do not like his attitude

[ruby seal]

lol max is the one with attitude

[jaunty cave]

To be fair Max attitude has improved since he first came in to F1.

[ruby seal]

but still he has got massive attitude in him

[lime torrent]

he used to be aggressive

max

lewis just want sto win everything

[crude kiln]

Yeah I agree it was a mistake by Lewis and don't think he did it on purpose. You can see he cut into Max before the turn and committed, but then realised it wasn't gonna work too late. That's my take on it.

[ruby seal]

he is aggressive now too

[lime torrent]

but before he used to have so many dnfs

[ruby seal]

hmm but it was a mistake that was for sure

[jaunty cave]

I agree. But he had to take the risk at some point on lap 1. If not Max runs away with another victory.

[tawny sphinx]

About time the Brits won something on penalties

[stuck fulcrum]

at least PER did a nice job bringing that RB to P2 and saving some damage

[lime torrent]

well i hope max gets revenge and does the same to lewis

hits him and takes lewis out the race

[jaunty cave]

I expect nothing less from racing drivers. Take the risk when fighting for a championship.

[crude kiln]

I used to dislike Max and thought drove dirty and also that he ruined his car driving harder than it could take. But think he has matured alot these last couple of years and now I like him. Not my absolute fav driver but I think he is probably the fastest.

[ruby seal]

all races are won by mercs and RB this season

[upbeat wedge]

Didn't Max run Lewis off the track at Monza this season?

[ruby seal]

really want mclaren to get a win

[lime torrent]

same. before max became strong i used to support vettel in ferrari

[ruby seal]

he did

[lime torrent]

if lewis does it, why not max too?

[crude kiln]

Yep not blaming him really. But I still think the penalty was too soft since we can't also have drivers benefitting massively from taking other people out. Mistake or not.

[slow yew]

Lewis 10 sec penalty but if max do the same maybe black flag or better?

[ruby seal]

max has does it a couple of times to not this season but before and remember at monza he ran lewis of the track

[crude kiln]

PER needs to chill. Messed up two weekends in a row now for being too hot headed.

[jaunty cave]

It wasn’t intentional in my opinion. But when fighting for a championship you take the risk. Agin I ask the question. What would Senna or MSC do? Not take the gap.

[lime torrent]

yeah. ham is just a lucky guy

no DNF since 2018

[ruby seal]

thats cuz he is a clean driver doesnt do dirty things

[lime torrent]

he does do dirty things

[worldly pond]

Imagine that!!

[ruby seal]

not as much as max

[stuck fulcrum]

PER is a midfield driver, like OCO 🙂 he has a difficult car to drive, he tries too hard, he should indeed chill and get those p3/p5 to win the constructor's

[lime torrent]

max is not dirty anymore

[jaunty cave]

The penalty was never going to be enough. Penalties for Mercedes or RB don’t really hurt because they are so fast.

[ruby seal]

he is u gotta agree to that

[lime torrent]

not as lewis

[ruby seal]

lewis is definatley not dirty

max is alot dirtier than him

[jaunty cave]

Most watched episode of drive to survive in the making. 😂

[lime torrent]

lewis crashed into albon twice, had multiple penalties in 2020 and could have injured max this race

[crude kiln]

A drive through in my book would had been more suiting. He still would had benefitted for taking Max out tho. And Lewis is known for keeping the car when colliding with people. Think it was Rosberg who said that enables him to take more risks like that while others can't.

[ruby seal]

why are u so hot headed its just one race calm down nothing happens max is still leading the drivers championship

and i think they are also leading the constructors championship

[grand reef]

We all know that Hamilton did that on purpose

[ruby seal]

no he didnt

[stuck fulcrum]

so next race max is allowed to push ham off track, get 10s and easily win ? 🙂

[lime torrent]

yeah but a healthy verstappen had a healthy lead in the WDC

[lime torrent]

of course

if hamilton did it to him, why not doing it back?

[ruby seal]

yes but u have ups and downs in life u gotta admit that

[lime torrent]

karma

[stuck fulcrum]

10s added to pit-stop is nothing when you have a 2s/lap faster car compared to others and a 2nd driver that gets out of the way

[lime torrent]

are you lewis fan?

[stuck fulcrum]

penalty should be applied within 3 laps of the sanction

not when they want

[ruby seal]

not much i am a ric fan

[lime torrent]

ah ok

[ruby seal]

but i dont like max that much

cuz he was the reason ric had to leave RB

[lime torrent]

i bet max will start to pull away again in the WDC

[ruby seal]

i think so too

but i hope not

[lime torrent]

hamilton is the most reliable driver, max is the fastest

[jaunty cave]

Even if that was the penalty. Lewis would have still been on a podium. Being able to control the car after a collision is what makes a great racing driver. In my opinion.

[stuck fulcrum]

and luck for never getting critical damage

[crude kiln]

Didn't it use to be that way?

[lime torrent]

he is just a lucky bugger. never gets damage when contact

[jaunty cave]

Yup. Luck did play a role.

[stuck fulcrum]

only drive through

10s / 5s when you pit or added at the end if you don't pit

[lime torrent]

hamilton should have been suspended or disqualified from the race since what he did was extremely dangerous

[scarlet dust]

WHAT A RACE THAT WASS🤯

[sturdy beacon]

max doesn't have power over who leaves and joins RB.

[stuck fulcrum]

10s is already a good penalty

[sturdy beacon]

I kinda doubt if it was on purpose or not

[crude kiln]

I give it 2/5 😆 Been spoiled this season tho so maybe it would had been a higher grade otherwise.

[jaunty cave]

You clearly have never seen MSC or Senna drive before have you?

[lime torrent]

he could have backed off and have another run at max down a long straight

[ruby seal]

i know but max was proving to be a better driver and he was pressurising ric to leave RB

[lime torrent]

no. i got into f1 at the end of the 2016 season

[ruby seal]

yep thats the reason

[lime torrent]

i hate how merc betray bottas over lewis

[sturdy beacon]

max is just trying to do his best and if ric can't take it he could leave. (no hate to ric btw)

[jaunty cave]

Well maybe you should have a look at what a legends would do in situations like this. Take the gap!

[lime torrent]

mclaren is a strong car ngl. best midfield car

[lime torrent]

maybe

[carmine ruin]

Lessssgoooooo

[sturdy beacon]

You mean in configuration? or in engine n stuff

[ruby seal]

look lando is also proving to be good but he isnt pressurising ric to leave unlike max

[lime torrent]

both

[ruby seal]

thats cuz lando has no attitude

[sturdy beacon]

how was max pressuring ric to leave?

[lime torrent]

i hate how merc treat bottas

betray him for podiums and wins

[ruby seal]

after ric left he also said that ric is backing off from a fight

that proves it

[balmy sparrow]

Lewis is a dirty driver mate, he forced verstappen into the spin and thats how he’s going to catch up in the championship

[sturdy beacon]

Totally didn't purposely drive a fellow driver off into a wall to win.

[lime torrent]

exactly

[ruby seal]

they just say lewis is faster than u

[jaunty cave]

So 10 sec wasn't enough now? 1 hour ago you all was saying he need at least 10 second now dt😂

[lime torrent]

lewis made verstsappen mad so it will crack the nerves even more next race

[sturdy beacon]

He? you mean Max?

[balmy sparrow]

He is and always will be the most arrogant driver with the biggest ego out of all

[ruby seal]

yup

[lime torrent]

they betrayed him for a win in 2018. betrayed him for a podium in france

[lime torrent]

never liked him

[scarlet dust]

then i guess you rate paul ricard race highly than this one? come on😒

[ruby seal]

they couldnt destroy lewis chances if he was faster than bottas

[lime torrent]

so?

[balmy sparrow]

Omg same, I tried to like him, but seriously I don’t understand…

[scarlet dust]

Leclerc deserve that win.😔

[ruby seal]

so they say bottas to step aside as lewis is faster

and he is faster

[lime torrent]

he is a good driver with good skills. but if his attitude was not so negative i might have liked him

[balmy sparrow]

One day max is gonna force Lewis off track and hopefully Lewis is gonna retire

[balmy sparrow]

Same

[lime torrent]

bottas just gets hit by team orders too much

that how lewis won in 2019 and 2020

[balmy sparrow]

Lewis has been carried by Bottas in almost very race, one day verstappen will show this idiots true colours

[crude kiln]

I didn't even rate Paul Ricard 😅

[ruby seal]

look if for example bottas is 3rd and lewis is 4th in a race and lewis is faster they will say bottas to step aside and let lewis overtake him to get P3 cuz as lewis is faster he has a better chance of getting P2 and if he gets P2 it will be better for the team

[balmy sparrow]

Paul Richard was really good YBA

[lime torrent]

i understand that

[ruby seal]

yup thats the point

[lime torrent]

but still his attitude is dirty

[balmy sparrow]

My man, this hasn’t happened much. Bottas is always almost as quick. Sometimes he’s quicker, but he still lets Lewis through on team orders

[ruby seal]

if bottas needs to get priority over lewis than he should be faster than him

[sturdy beacon]

what's the point in arguing with each other about something that we can't change?

[lime torrent]

verstappen had a 51G accident

[ruby seal]

if he is quicker how can he let lewis pass?

[scarlet dust]

then what race do you rate mate?

[lime torrent]

lewis should not be making stupid moves like him

[carmine ruin]

yes, he didn’t
it’s racing, stuff like this happens

[ruby seal]

yup thats what i am trynna say

[sturdy beacon]

Do you not know what sarcasm is?

[lime torrent]

lewis hospitalised max to win

[ruby seal]

are u sure abt this?

[lime torrent]

yes

for sure

[ruby seal]

why?

[lime torrent]

he should have gotten suspended

[carmine ruin]

Do u not know what racing is?

[ruby seal]

were u in lewis car in that time?

[lime torrent]

racing is not crashing into rivals

and knocking people out the race

[sturdy beacon]

yes but you haven't awnsered me yet?

[ruby seal]

but in racing it can happen

[lime torrent]

if max did this to lewis it would have been more dramatic

FIA are more on lewis's side than max's

[ruby seal]

how do u know?

do u know the future?

[sturdy beacon]

The nastiest part about all this is that hamilton doesn't even care about driving max off the track and hospitalizing him. Hamilton should've been disqualified for that

[lime torrent]

i can predict. hamilton complains when other drivers do dirty stuff to him

[lime torrent]

exactly

hamiltons dirty attitude will never leave him

[ruby seal]

he hasnt been out of a race since 2018 how can u say that?

[lime torrent]

ik his attitude

[crude kiln]

Seems I was a bit off with 2/5 and should've chosen 1/5 😆 I didn't like this race since one of the CH rivals took the other one out right away and the only changes in the top was cuz of that and issues for other drivers like Norris & Sainz who got their races made worse in their pit stops.

[ruby seal]

do u know lewis better than himself?

[sturdy beacon]

https://youtu.be/kq2E7LBClnY

you should watch it. entirely

[ruby seal]

its just some opinions of ppl about lewis

we cant agree to it

[sturdy beacon]

You haven't watched it and I knwo you haven't

The videos includes facts

All facts

You can't deny a fact

[ruby seal]

ahh

thats more like it

[fading cipher]

What a race

The whole internet going crazy abut lewis win after he crash into max haha

[sturdy beacon]

Why do you support a Dirty cheater who doesn't care about hospitalizing someone?

[fading cipher]

Ah

Well

There is some here too

[ruby seal]

i dont support lewis i support ric i just dont like max cuz of his dirty driving and attitude

[ruby seal]

hmm yes

[jaunty cave]

Well done to Lewis today. To all the people who believe the incident was intentional. Maybe you should actually watch a few races of some legends of the sport. Senna & MSC to name. Because when offered a gap by your rival when fighting for a championship you take it. No matter what you think of Lewis any real racing driver will take the risk.

[sturdy beacon]

"that's more like it" yeah totally not supporting

[ruby seal]

thats cuz ik only lewis can defeat max rn and he did so i was happy for him

[sturdy beacon]

Yeah but he could've atleast said anything like a sorry for hospitalizing someone

[ruby seal]

i would have gone crazy if ric had defeated max today

[scarlet dust]

ratio.

[sturdy beacon]

Hamilton has won 7 championships in a row and now you are reversing it with max

[jaunty cave]

Just because you haven’t seen it on camera doesn’t mean he hasn’t addressed Max. He did also ask if he was fine.

[ruby seal]

he hasnt won 7 in a row

2016 was won by nico rosberg

[sturdy beacon]

yes but that was the only time

[ruby seal]

ok now stop

[sturdy beacon]

So nobody knows

[sturdy beacon]

Why?

[ruby seal]

cuz its of no point

at the end lewis wins thats all what matters

[sturdy beacon]

A hospitalized driver doesnt matter?

[jaunty cave]

So it has to be made public to make you feel better. Wow. Just ridiculous.

[sturdy beacon]

No but I doubt if he did by his personality

[jaunty cave]

Personally I think Lewis has a great character. But that’s just my opinion. Nothing you post will change that.

[sturdy beacon]

https://youtu.be/kq2E7LBClnY

Facts.

Cant deny facts

[jaunty cave]

Like I said nothing you post will change my opinion. Move on buddy.

[sturdy beacon]

You haven't even watched it yet

[jaunty cave]

Don’t need too.

[sturdy beacon]

And if nothing that i say changes it then you're just denying stuff because you can't take it anymore

Which is kind of sad

[weak root]

Max was the one who turned in on lewis , people are just salty the penalty didn’t stop him from wining the fact is that max defends aggressively and he’s unpredictable. Lewis was penalized he was voted to be wrong case closed

[sturdy beacon]

did you wear a blindfold during the race or something?

[ruby seal]

the incident was maxs fault

[crude kiln]

Lewis turned into Max as well. And Max was ahead.

[ruby seal]

and when lewis asked is max fine the team said yes hebis fine but he is out of the race

[jaunty cave]

I agree Max defended aggressively. I would expect nothing less. But it seems most people in this chat hate Lewis because of his personality. Or clearly don’t know what a racing driver is.

[weak root]

I don’t care about your biased opinion I watched the entire race max turned in !!! And they made contact ! All these person who are trying to say that lewis deliberately took him out have their motives

[weak fern]

My 2 cents on the incident: Lewis never had the corner, was never ahead and approaching copse at that angle he would never turn on the apex, on the other hand max didn't leave a lot of space and didn't backed out. In comparison the overtake on Leclerc was a lot cleaner and better done. At the end I think is unfair that a battle that would last all the race ended in the first lap and one driver was out while the other won.

[sturdy beacon]

Max was on the racing line so he had the rights of it

[jaunty cave]

Then they ask why i don't like max fans 😂

[crude kiln]

I want Max to beat Lewis this season but if Max had done the same on Lewis I would've thought a drive through would had been reasonable as well.

[sturdy beacon]

there's nothing of that to be seen in the image

[jaunty cave]

These kids are ruining f1

[weak root]

Lewis is hated for many reasons the things he stands for, his race, his achievements and of course his domination

[sturdy beacon]

Max was on the racing line so he had the rights of it

[jaunty cave]

Really sad world we live in.

[jaunty cave]

Calling someone nig*a?

[weak root]

But none of the hate will prevent him from success

[ruby seal]

lol he was clearly a lil wide and lewis saw the gap so he dived in but max cut him on got the racing line

[crude kiln]

I agree but Max has never sent Lewis to hospital 😂 You gotta look at where it happens and what damage it does as well imo.

[iron stag]

Checo had a bad race. I can’t believe RB pit him to remove fastest lap from Hamilton, though Checo wasn’t gonna get a point for it and he was in p9. Did they throw strategy out of their window ?

[sturdy beacon]

Yeah? just becasue one of them is rasict doesn't mean all of them are.

[weak fern]

You don't go on copse like that expecting to not collide

[weak root]

Majority of hate towards the guys is race driven come on read social media

[iron stag]

That’s just some fans on social media. Most aren’t racist

[ruby seal]

both were a lil aggressive

[sturdy beacon]

Max was already on the racing line. he was not even cutting in at all

[weak root]

Both drivers weren’t prepared to give up and one payed a heavier price

[iron stag]

But Ham just committed to a full dive and turned out on Max when Max gave him enough room. 10 sec was a joke, it must’ve been a stop / go

[sturdy beacon]

That's kind of off topic to what I said but ok?

[weak root]

Lewis did it on purpose lol

[iron stag]

Well, Max being ahead of Hamilton ahead and in the corner gives him the natural right to dictate how the corner should go. Hamilton should’ve backed off

It can be seen in most of the races including Turkey. 2010 (correct me if I’m wrong)

[jaunty cave]

😐😐😐😐😐😐😐

[jaunty cave]

Agreed. It’s called racing. Which people seem to not get.

[sturdy beacon]

If max would've driven hamilton off the track then all the hamilton fasn would cry about max cheating and doing it on purpose

[sturdy beacon]

Racing has rules y'know

[jaunty cave]

Lewis in that moment just said I'm gona push him to the barriers at 300 kmh?

[sturdy beacon]

Yes but not so hard that he got hospitalized like max

[jaunty cave]

That's what you think👍

[sturdy beacon]

True and it never happend. Also. I was assuming it

[crude kiln]

He is in the hospital cuz he was hurt. Didn't you see him after the crash? I don't think many people view it as intentional and that wasn't my point. Max has bumped Lewis off when being ahead a few times so he rejoined track a few metres after. Lewis sent Max to hospital while being behind. What I mean is the penalty gotta fit the danger in it as well and the consequence. I say drive through in a situation like that.

[iron stag]

Explain ? Imola wasn’t entirely off track and Max had the corner before going to t1

And Spain was a big send, but no one got any damage. It’s different when you entirely take someone out

[jaunty cave]

Yeah there are rules. But as a racing driver. Racing driver being key words. You take the risk when fighting for a championship. What do you not understand.

[jaunty cave]

Lewis will make it sure that will never happen 😉

[iron stag]

But the facepalm moment of the race was Leclerc running wide and gifting the lead to Lewis lmao

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

[weak fern]

Yes but on corners were you can actually safely push out, you don't do that on copse. Imagine the same on parabolica at Monza or 130r at suzuka

[sturdy beacon]

The word makes it look liek it's something heavy

[sturdy beacon]

That's an assumption

[weak root]

Wrong if roles were reverse I would say hard racing tough result ! One of them should have given up!

[iron stag]

Well, Max never pushed and DNF’ed Lewis out, Lewis freaking sent it like Maldonado

[iron stag]

And the one ahead shoudlnt give up. By the racing “rules”, Hamilton had to give up as Max had the right to the corner

[sturdy beacon]

i don't see you saying that about this one

[crude kiln]

He made a mistake for sure which had quite bad consequences.

[weak root]

And he got a penalty for for it right?

[iron stag]

Yep. The consequences weren’t that bad in Imola or Spain tbh

[jaunty cave]

Lewis last dnf was 3 years ago, nobody can send a driver that is 30 seconds ahead of you in the barriers

[iron stag]

I’m talking Imola and Spain

[crude kiln]

Exactly. That's got to be taken into account imo. But I'm not FIA 😇

[weak root]

I refuse to entertain you salt any further

[sturdy beacon]

Awww can't take it anymore?

[iron stag]

Yep, but Lewis’ penalty was a bit too light, imo

[jaunty cave]

Not the same situation but ok

[weak root]

Lh44 the greatest of all time sit on it soak it in

[iron stag]

I was replying to @jaunty cave about him comparing this to Imola and Spain and saying Max should’ve gotten penalties

[weak fern]

Considering he still won, yeah it was and that's why everyone is salty

[sturdy beacon]

That's your opinion :/

[weak root]

It’s so silly to me

[weak fern]

Greatest of this era

[crude kiln]

Haven't seen anyone here say they think he did it on purpose. Seen some posts from Lewis fans saying it was Max's fault tho 😂

[weak root]

It isn’t max fault for sure lol

[sturdy beacon]

Lewis had enough space next to max but he didn't take it

[jaunty cave]

So you are one of the guys thay say Verstappen is the goat?

[sturdy beacon]

The salt of lewis fans

[jaunty cave]

I’m a Lewis fan. And I don’t think it was Max fault. Max gave Lewis a gap and he took it. As a racing driver that’s fighting for a championship should. I would Expect max to do the same.

[sturdy beacon]

Wdym with goat?

[crude kiln]

Will check those things later. Saw another forum tho were one or two acted racist which is disgusting. 2021 and some people still think skin colour matters.

[hearty anvil]

Helmut said that Lewis deserved a race ban

[weak fern]

In F1 there isn't a goat, you can't compare drivers from different eras

[sturdy beacon]

Wdym jailed?

[weak root]

Max had a enough space to stay wide but he miss averaged where lewis was actually he though lewis would back out

[carmine ruin]

Lmaooooo

[opal galleon]

lol

[weak root]

Imagine the racism Hamilton is facing personally via his social media platforms

[sturdy beacon]

Max didn't cut lewis. and if max would. lewis had enough time to react

[weak root]

I shouldn’t but moment some persons don’t get what they want it’s a easy solution for them

[sturdy beacon]

The name Black Lives Matter doesn't make sense.. if they really cared about everyone and equality it would've been All Lives Matter

[weak root]

See what I mean lol here we have a guys on the brink of emotional breakdown becuase his driver of choice came off worse in a wheel to wheel battle

[sturdy beacon]

What does that have to do with the message that you replied to?

[sturdy beacon]

And IF I would be on emotional breakdown i'd not be typing here

Why would anyone get emotional about soemthing they can't change anyways

Seems a bit dumb

[weak root]

You win mate lewis Hamilton said f it I’m crashing this guy

[jaunty cave]

Red bull for you

🤡

[weak root]

Some admin is in a bit of trouble that’s not a good look at all going public like that

[sturdy beacon]

You do know one person runs that account and not multiple people?

[jaunty cave]

Sacked in the morning

[jaunty cave]

Why you getting mad for that? You all lewis haters are like him

[sturdy beacon]

yes but RedBull doesn't control them

[sturdy beacon]

I'm not mad? it's a question

The guy probably got fired but hey! That's just my assumption.

[jaunty cave]

That's the red bull company! If thry are not happy they can go out of f1 and start making energy drinks

[crude kiln]

Prolly some 19 year old intern 😅

[jaunty cave]

It's pretty obvious that thry will kick his ass from that tw account

[sturdy beacon]

They are doing both?

it's funny how nobody mentioned what Aston martin commented on that tweet from F1

[hearty anvil]

Today Pérez lacked pace

[iron stag]

He did a good recovery, but RB decided to f with his strategy. Like pitting him (on hards) at the same time as medium runners and pitting him thrice (at the end for fastest lap) for which he wouldn’t have gotten points. It was only to knock a point off Hamilton lol

[hearty anvil]

Oh I thought he had a blister in the first stint

Didn't make any sense the strategy

He couldn't pass Stroll on track tho

[crude kiln]

Perez maybe not so clear for that RB contract next season after all... hope he gets a grip soon. But who else would they bring in?

[weak root]

I can’t wait for Hungary lol

[lusty hornet]

What’s he gonna do 🥴🥴I agree it’s ott but roles reversed it’s the same discussion is all I see. Glad he’s ok don’t get me wrong but I think it’s a bit extreme all this backlash works two ways. Also he’s still winning so not like it’s suddenly wrecked the year

[crude kiln]

I still remember the accident that killed Bianchi. Rosberg cried after when receiving the news while waiting for the podium. Hamilton nodded and kept on fixing his hair in the mirror. Gave me a real bad vibe.

[lusty hornet]

Not everyone has the same coping methods is my hope but I agree sometimes it does seem like a lad of empathy

[crude kiln]

Yeah I know that but he just gives me a bad vibe when it comes to stuff like that.

[lusty hornet]

Can’t be easy to balance pure happiness with a worry what your actions can do to people

[weak root]

I firmly believe Hamilton is concerned but I also know Red Bull has no choice but to milk it

[crude kiln]

And I believe he is a narcissist with sub normal empathy 😅

[lusty hornet]

Also just Cus it’s not said on radios doesn’t mean it’s not in the paddock but again I’m making excuses let’s just hope it’s not the case that he doesn’t care

[sturdy beacon]

This pretty much shows hamilton is a jerk who doesnt care about the people around him

[weak root]

I think max will regret that public out burst after watching the footage a few times it’s very close both their wrong and inability to concede

[lusty hornet]

I think horners are worse

[crude kiln]

As Oliver said tho ppl react differently so who knows.

[lusty hornet]

Implying he meant it and doesn’t care and wants to hurt him

Too far imo

[sturdy beacon]

True.

[crude kiln]

Yeah he said HAM did it on purpose basically 😅

[lusty hornet]

I think that’s just too much esp from the boss

You want a calm head

It’s ok call for penalties but to imply intentionally hurting someone is just an outburst

[lime torrent]

he did

[crude kiln]

Yeah I mean it still took Max turning into him as well and to me it looks like Lewis tried to abort

[weak root]

Yea that’s over the top it wasn’t intentional I keep looking at it and all I can see is too really hungry drivers max knows 100% that lewis didn’t intentionally do that but as I said he has to milk it

[lusty hornet]

Exactly it’s either racing or Lewis ‘ fault but not like he’s locked up or turned in to max

[upbeat wedge]

RB just trying to keep the pressure on the stewards, they're looking to get him a race ban

[lusty hornet]

That’s marko and he’s psycho lol

[weak root]

Yup that’s what I mean by they milking it but they won’t get it max was the one who turned unaware that Lewis had not given up yet

[lusty hornet]

I mean he was aware just hoped he would brake

[crude kiln]

Don't think RB has any hopes of that happening and therefor not their goal. But they're understandably annoyed with the incident and the penalty.

[upbeat wedge]

Sky were reporting it during the race

[jaunty cave]

Yup. And if the roles where reversed. Toto would probably do the same thing.

[crude kiln]

Reporting what? That RB are trying to get him banned?

[upbeat wedge]

Yes Helmut Marko suggesting he needed a one race ban

[crude kiln]

For sure. Damn Merc been whiny this season 😅

[zenith heath]

Dont agree but agree 100% with verstappen to judge the unreal behaviour of ham after winning the race.
No word about max, not personal neither as rival...
Today ham lost my last 10% of respect i had for him. Time to retire lullu

[sturdy beacon]

hamilton likes to whine about his tires a lot

[upbeat wedge]

I'm sure he's devastated

[crude kiln]

Aha Helmut in the heat of the moment 😂 That makes sense, but I'm sure RB don't expect or are hoping for that to happen. Feels like it takes quite alot more

[sturdy beacon]

you mean hamilton?

[zenith heath]

When & where ham tried to avoid the crash?

[crude kiln]

Looks to me he tries to slow down right before

[vivid stratus]

I saw that as a full racing incident. Max expected Lewis to back out of it like he has before and he didn’t.

[crude kiln]

I'm telling yall, true narcissist. That's why I struggle to like him, despite thinking he is a great driver.

[weak root]

My point max though he would have back out but that’s does say it was on purpose

[vivid stratus]

No it means it’s a racing incident. Hamilton didn’t go in trying to take out max, rather take the position

[zenith heath]

After the race ham showed in several interviews his real face.
He is a poor man, only living f1 & his championship, no caracter, far away from a human beeing with any empathy.
A poor small worm nothing else.

[weak root]

I agree Hamilton should have at least said sorry I’m the main interview

[vivid stratus]

Max did the same thing in imola and Spain in the first corner and Hamilton pulled out of a collision

[weak root]

I’m really think your pushing it he could have said something but doesn’t mean he doesn’t care , moment the crash happened the first thing he asked was if max was ok

He was told yes he walked out the car so I think he switched off and focused on the race again

[vivid stratus]

I mean I feel like Hamilton apologizing on air is just for media tbh. If he apologized to max personally or spoke to him after that’s different imo

[crude kiln]

No the first thing he asked was if he had damage 😂 Then a few minutes after he asked about Max.

Not saying that means anything tho

[weak root]

He said I have damage then asked about max lol

But he asked 👀

[crude kiln]

Always something 😅

[weak root]

Remember the race was still running I guess he also had to focus on whether or not to pit 😂

[upbeat wedge]

What is he apologising for?

[crude kiln]

Was nice talking to you all during this race! Let's hope they manage to keep it clean now for the remainder.

[vivid stratus]

I’m a Hamilton fan but I don’t hate Verstappen but I just wonder what the reaction would be if the roles were reversed and Verstappen went into Hamilton

[weak root]

I like vertappen more than Hamilton lol

[zenith heath]

Starting now its war on track...i am sure

[weak root]

But I always analyze with no bias

[vivid stratus]

That’s an opinion and I’m not judging anyone on that. I personally like Hamilton more and I’m trying to look at it from an unbiased perspective. It looked like a racing incident from both of them going for the same line and max getting the short end of the stick

[upbeat wedge]

The sport needs both of them otherwise there's no competition

[vivid stratus]

Yeah and people wanted close racing and that’s as close as you’re going to get. Hamilton went for that gap

[iron stag]

We do want Wheel to Wheel, but Ham shoudlve backed off. He knew he was gonna knock off Max

[vivid stratus]

No he was racing max. Max wouldn’t have backed off either lmao

[iron stag]

Max had the right to the corner

As he was ahead

[sturdy beacon]

Wait why are we arguing about something we cant change anyways

[vivid stratus]

Not really arguing, more like debating/having a conversation

[sturdy beacon]

but still

[iron stag]

We need entertainment after a race in these two weeks

😂

[sturdy beacon]

good point

[vivid stratus]

I think Maxs ego got to him a little as well. I think he assumed Lewis would back out and he didn’t

[lusty hornet]

Where is this from 🥴

[iron stag]

Well, tbh, why would he back out if he was ahead ? That’s essentially gifting a position. No one would do that

[lusty hornet]

Imo max could’ve gone wider and Lewis could’ve stopped so it’s 50/50

[upbeat wedge]

He backed out of the corner before, Lewis can't keep avoiding max every GP

[vivid stratus]

Exactly so it’s a racing incident. Idk how anyone can blame anyone for it

[iron stag]

It’s an illustration and idk whether it’s on the rules or not, but the driver ahead always has the right to the corner. Drivers always mention it (even Seb did) and commentators mention it too

[lusty hornet]

But it’s never max’s fault but also not ljke Lewis intended for that to happen. As it’s been said he was inches away from front suspension damage

[iron stag]

But the red flag allowed him to comfortably change the damaged parts smh

[lusty hornet]

‘Ahead’ is the key part here and imo Lewis wasn’t in the wrong to be roughly in that area

[lusty hornet]

???? Damage was only to the wheel so that’s mega lucky

[upbeat wedge]

If Max spins and continues in the race it probably gets judged as a racing incident

[lusty hornet]

You cannot convince me that he times it perfectly to get no damage

[jaunty cave]

And Max gifted Lewis the gap. Lewis had every right to take the gap. As that is what a racing driver should do.

[iron stag]

Yeah. Max was ahead and lewis shoudlve backed off.

[lusty hornet]

🥴🥴ok bro

[vivid stratus]

I mean look at the imola start, Lewis is ahead and max sends it down the inside. Lewis had to back out of a collision

[lusty hornet]

If there has to be blame it’s on lewis but all this he’s Tryna kill him and done it on purpose is just silly imo

Im happy to disagree but that’s what it will be

[weak root]

This is exactly what happened also the fact he couldn’t see lewis

[iron stag]

That’s how you take a corner in F1. He was give plenty of space, this is an illustration of how it normally happens, not this incident

Well, I think Michael was disqualified from a race for taking out an opponent

Lewis got a 10 sec penalty

[lusty hornet]

Legit he spun in every practice to find the limits of the car now a days you’re mocked for the tiniest spin

Micheal this is

[jaunty cave]

That’s what I asked earlier. Also Senna. But most people don’t even know who they are.

[vivid stratus]

I’m not claiming to be an expert on it just giving my opinion. I just know that watching the race all the experts they were asking about this were saying racing incident

[lusty hornet]

Yea the old f1 crashes for the title we’re funny

[vivid stratus]

Except marko and Horner ofc

[lusty hornet]

Prost just saying I’m angry at the first corner wouldn’t fly today

[vivid stratus]

No Ik that but I noticed people on twitter speaking as if they were experts

[upbeat wedge]

Also Schumacher on Hill

Or Vettel on Lewis, possibly Baku?

[vivid stratus]

Wasn’t the Schumacher DQ Bc he ignored the black flag tho?

[upbeat wedge]

And they'd let him get away with the first time so needed to make a strong punishment

[vivid stratus]

Ah maybe I’m thinking of a different instance

[warped lotus]

Hi friends

[dark kite]

https://tenor.com/view/emman-nimedez-pambansang-oppa-emmannimedeztv-what-cute-gif-12199876

[warped lotus]

me rn

hamilton am i right

[sturdy beacon]

to who though

[grizzled owl]

True, he was the number one reason for vettel to loose championship when he himself was not even a championship contender. Today, he was back to his old game, Hamilton was on him, trying to take him down and he tried to play his old trick to block dangerously but it fired back today.

[hearty anvil]

Hamilton fault

Different racing line with Charles

10 seconds is a joke he deserved a drive trough penalty or stop and go

The worst thing was seeing people celebrating Max's crash. He ended up in a hospital

[iron stag]

Yep. Brits, I swear. At Euro and now at F1

[honest trail]

Horner summed it all. Lewis just sticked his front wheel into Maxs rear wheel. He could take right but just went straight. Its just trick to send your rival off.

[iron stag]

Yep. Lewis could’ve backed off but he didn’t. It’s nearly like what he did to Vettel at Monza 2017/18 when Vettel Spun

[lusty hornet]

We get such a bad rep most aren’t like that. I think many were happy lewis ahead

[honest trail]

Car written off Max in hospital lead came down to 7

Saw Leclerc talking about backing off

[lusty hornet]

Rightly so btw some British fans are utterly disgusting

[honest trail]

Was sad about Sainz. Front wheel cost him much time in pits

And stupid rule to use two compounds

It should be free choice

Charles was managing his mediums pretty well even with engine cuts

Just when Lewis was coming close he again was giving him gap

[grizzled owl]

A second ealier picture would tell you a different story. You would find verstappen coming from left to down right to shut the gap which he had opened before. Too bad but he had been doing this to other drivers. Hamilton went for gap and if you do not go for gap you are not a racing driver....

[tiny onyx]

imo it was a racing incident

[honest trail]

Hamilton wasnt following his corner. There was enough space. And he just went into Max

[tiny onyx]

verstappen coulda left a lot more room tho

thats why i think it was 50/50

thats why i think it was racing incident

[honest trail]

Nah Ham just smashed him. Trick to win. No offence all drivers do that but punishable trick. Should have been stop and go.

[tiny onyx]

wdym nah fam

literally look at the clip

verstappen coulda left a lot more space

and ham coulda used more space

50/50

[honest trail]

I ve watched thousands such clips

And what makes you think that he shoul left more space

Max was following his trajectory

If you look at it good

While hamilton instead of turning right just left his wheel there

[tiny onyx]

the trajectory changes when u realize there is another car next to you

he needed to adapt

but he dint

[honest trail]

There no change of trajectory

[tiny onyx]

cause he expected ham to back off

[honest trail]

You hit the right one as you enter the cornet

[tiny onyx]

but ham expected ver to back off

50/50

[honest trail]

Noone backs off when he is on his way and on right trajectory

[tiny onyx]

exactly no one backs off

cause they both want the win

so

50/50

[honest trail]

When he is on his way

While ham wasnt on his way

Went into corner left his wheel there

You go into corner you come out clean

[tiny onyx]

do u like close racing?

[honest trail]

Whats close racing?

[tiny onyx]

hold on

lemme think

[honest trail]

I like overtakes but without crashes

And not overtakes on pure performance of the car

[tiny onyx]

close racing

[honest trail]

F1 became bit boring in last years

[tiny onyx]

then why watch

[honest trail]

You dont have good car you dont overtake

Because i love it

[tiny onyx]

k close racing is cool to watch

[honest trail]

xd

[tiny onyx]

so why get mad when there is an incident involving it

[honest trail]

Noones mad

[tiny onyx]

u r

[honest trail]

Just Ham pulled trick

Like every other driver

[tiny onyx]

how bout this

[honest trail]

Should ve been punished

[tiny onyx]

agree to dissagree

[honest trail]

Fukoff

[tiny onyx]

lmao

ur mad

u see

[honest trail]

You re stupid buddy

Too stupid

Bye bro

[tiny onyx]

he did get punished xD

[honest trail]

You just talk to talk

No stop and go is punishment

Not 10 secs in pits

[tiny onyx]

its impossible to win an argument with and idiot

[honest trail]

Bye bro

Im not arguing

[tiny onyx]

we have been for the past 10 mins bro

[honest trail]

Truth is that Hamilton was wrong

[tiny onyx]

so was vers

so

[honest trail]

And Fia has very bad rules with these offences

[tiny onyx]

50/50.

[honest trail]

Its your opinion but not truth

[tiny onyx]

so why be mad at ham

[honest trail]

So bye buddy

[tiny onyx]

cause if its the fia

[honest trail]

Im not mad

[tiny onyx]

then the same thing would happen if it was vers

u r

[honest trail]

Well fukoff and bye buddy

😃

[tiny onyx]

u see

its impossible to win against an idiot

u have nothing to say

so u just leave

[mystic aurora]

[honest trail]

Im redflagged buddy

[mystic aurora]

Time to move past this

[tiny onyx]

ight

[honest trail]

Dnf and out of race

xd

[opal galleon]

lol

[worldly pond]

Those same fans who were all on their feet applauding when he got out of the car?

[glacial wyvern]

It's racing

[weak root]

https://youtu.be/lkAoSghdD6Y this should help out a lot

Max got maxed is funny how people forget

[carmine ruin]

that literally makes no sense

[carmine ruin]

that guy in a nutshell lmao

[iron stag]

Hehe

[tawny sphinx]

I didn't realise he was such an idiot. I had sympathy for him (not a lot) before I saw that. Now... not so much

[honest trail]

Another wa nk er

[iron stag]

He wasn’t an idiot lol. He was just aggressive back then. But what Lewis did, for a man of that experience, is stupid

[tawny sphinx]

I disagree, but respect your right to be wrong 🤣🤣🤣

[iron stag]

Aight

But what Lewis did was so wrong. He had so much space in the inside. And to all those saying Max turned in on him, how do you expect him to stay on track and race, if he shoudlnt turn at a high speed corner

[tawny sphinx]

He understeered. It happens

He also tried to back out, but couldn't quite get it

[iron stag]

He wasn’t even trying to steer. He shouldn’t have sent it into Copse itself

[tawny sphinx]

Well in my book, bearing in mind what I've seen in the past especially from Schumacher Alonso et al it's a racing incident. He got a penalty (and maybe a stop go would have been more fitting) and it's done.

[iron stag]

Yep. I too believe a stop/go or even a DSQ would’ve been better considering how Michael and other WDCs of the past were disqualified for knocking their rival off

[tawny sphinx]

Schumacher wasn't disqualified after wrecking his and Hill's car to stop him winning the world championship back in the day. Schummy rarely got punished because Moseley & Ecclestone saw how much value he bought to the sport
https://youtu.be/91JoW4mSiZo

[jaunty cave]

I think they are like "please sir Hamilton all track is yours please pass me." Or smtng like that

[carmine ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIKel6jVD3Q @iron stag @honest trail ya'll need to watch this vid closely, look at his steering wheel when max was closing in, didnt move an inch, hence it was not done purposely

[iron stag]

How else was max supposed to make the corner without turning in ? Hamilton should’ve backed off or turned into a car’s width of space available near the apex. Most tell that Max didn’t leave enough room. Max left more room than Charles did when Hamilton passed Leclerc at Coose. There Ham knew he had to back off and make the corner, whereas in the former case, he literally continued on a straight path, no better than a Maldonado dive bomb

[jaunty cave]

Lewis Hamilton & Max Verstappen crash: Slow motion footage shows who's to blame | GiveMeSport

https://www.givemesport.com/1723748-lewis-hamilton-max-verstappen-crash-slow-motion-footage-shows-whos-to-blame

[crude kiln]

Lol and if you view the footage from behind you see that HAM was going more left than he should as well when they hit. And when overtaking LEC later he was much closer to the wall/apex to the right as well.

I think we can say that both messed up, both HAM messed up more and benefited massively.

[crude kiln]

Lewis took that corner as if he was ahead and had the right to squeeze Max a bit. But he wasn't ahead and clipped Max's rear while Max was holding the racing line with plenty of space to the right for Lewis. Mistake by Lewis and not even up for debate really.

[weak root]

It’s the things he said in the interviews that had me like wow but then we upset with lewis for his interview

[tawny sphinx]

Well it's a sport with big egos, but I think that's what you need to be world champ

[iron stag]

There’s ego and then there’s being proud of winning by taking out your main opponent by driving into him

He might say he best a Ferrari, but we all know how broken it already was and on top, it had engine issues

He literally had no problems once he took out Max. The only other competitive person was Checo stuck behind the field. And it was basically a question of When rather than if. Also, I hate it that Lewis won by getting team orders. Leclerc won the race in my books

[stuck fulcrum]

Ferrari didn't have engine issues during the second stint, infact LEC managed the H pretty well clocking 1.30.5 on last laps, but MER is a rocket on H (less overheating) and the 10s penalty (joke) was recovered in 8 laps

the true masterpiece was holding the way faster MER on Medium for 25 laps destroying LH tyres

I wonder if LEC pulled off 4/5 more laps on M if he could have gone S for last stint

prob Sainz could have done it, he manages the tyres way better than LEC, but LEC is on another level when he needs to fight/overtake

[iron stag]

Well, the engine power cut off reduced the gap from 3 or 1.5 sec to about 0.5 sec and Ham was able to get him using DRS. I feel that was a defining moment of the race. But good podium for Charles nonetheless. Also, in general, the Ferrari engines are slower than any other engine on the grid rn (maybe not Renault but idk). So it was still unfair

[stuck fulcrum]

true, but the engine issue was not the reason of the easy overtake by HAM, the Ferrari engine/aero package is still way inferior to MER/RB

[iron stag]

Yep

Mainly ‘cause of 2019. They had a banging engine in 2017/18. Shoudlve kept the same

[glossy verge]

So much arguing and debating over "whose fault it was" is negligible. That statement from the stewards pretty much sums it all up. I would argue, however, that a 10 second time penalty for the fastest car on the grid is an unequal punishment anyway. Let alone the fact that it was a collision that took out his main championship rival. Whilst I can see why people call for a blag flag (an eye for an eye), I think it would have been a step too far. A 10 sec stop/go given the circumstances would probably have been the right call IMO. He was given that for simply driving into the pit lane in Monza last year, why not for causing an accident on a high speed corner?

[steel nexus]

Key word is he was found “predominantly” at fault, not entirely at fault, which I agree with. I also feel a 10 second stop and go would have been a “better” call.

[grizzled owl]

How many times verstappen took out championship leaders in previous seasons by crashing them out. He should watch it next race.

[jaunty cave]

Cash Kings 👆

[glossy verge]

A) where did I excuse any of Verstappens previous incidents where he was at fault?
B) we were discussing the incident at the British Grand Prix 2021, not any previous ones.

Lewis has taken out his fair share of drivers in the past too, but that is irrelevant for this argument.

[opal galleon]

Bet Lewis has better torpedo. I mean it’s about Russian torpedo vs British

[iron stag]

Bring in Pastor already. Proven to be efficient against similar machinery (Hamilton in Valencia - ? - )

[fresh acorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4TZ4_Vk52k

[jaunty cave]

Bruh

[opal galleon]

you mean worse

its called intro for a reason not a montage xD

[crude kiln]

I don't mean anything since I didn't make it 😜

[opal galleon]

oh... that was good response :d

[brazen mulch]

for anyone who hasn't seen it and is still wrong about the collision this past weekend here is everything you need to know analyzed really well by Jolyon Palmer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp0GG4y3is8

[noble spear]

thx

[quartz pilot]

Seb - China 2018 is one

[crude kiln]

Palmer like "he hopes Max will back out, he's not here to avoid a collision, he misses the apex" etc, but still tries so hard going against the vast majority who thinks it was Lewis' fault and a deserved, but too mild penalty 😅 Lewis messed up and was to blame. Watch the video I posted a few days above from Leclerc's view and you see HAM tries to take the corner like he was ahead and could squeeze Max. He wasn't ahead and barely made the corner himself since he came in with too much speed after taking a gamble. So where was Max (who was ahead!) supposed to go?

[zenith oriole]

omg this stupid drama over and over again that will keep going the whole season.... it's racing, this happens and they are both to blame

if one driver is going on circute like kamikadze and you don't need to fight with him, you gonna back off if you grown up enough.
max had huge lead in leaderboard, he didn't need to take this fight at all. i get it, he wants to be winning everything but he took gamble to defend same as lewis took gamble to fight him because he is desprate to get points and keep in fight for championship. he could back off and take chance to overtake him back instead of risking collision and scoring no points when he doesn't need to.

you don't want drivers to be scared to take any risks in overtaking because they will be penalised everytime omg, as someone who is watching races, you want to see racing and not cars following each other and overtaking only in pits

[fervent orchid]

#👾│discord-updates first omg

[proud sphinx]

Yeah red bull is going way too far

All the lawyer stuff is over the top

But mercedes are still celebrating like they just won a 10th world title

[crude kiln]

It's been like 4 days since it happened 😅 Ofc ppl talk about it still but it will calm down unless there's a similar incident next race.

[brazen mulch]

Max knew fully well Hamilton was alongside him, his wing was by his front wheels . . .so why did he take such a tight line into the corner as if Hamilton wasn't there? It's a classic racing incident, Hamilton couldn't back out of it as he was committed, Verstappen turned in on a normal tight line. Hamilton made the corner just fine, you don't need to make stuff up.

[brazen mulch]

Mercedes are doing what now? It's over and done with moving on . . racing incident, harsh penalty . . .fortunately didn't affect anything.

[crude kiln]

Yes we are all making stuff up and are delusional. So does and are the 85% who think it was Lewis' fault according to all polls I've seen. You can clearly see Lewis barely made the corner afterwards, so there was zero room for Max who was ahead. That's a fact and not something I'm making up. Had Lewis been ahead noone would had blamed him. Except maybe the most hardcore Max fans 😅

[zenith oriole]

obviously hamilton made a mistake and went too fast into the corner, it's not like he went there thinking "haha i am gonna crash that kid and take all the race points while he gets non"... same way max made a mistake and tried to squeeze hamilton to force him to slow down and kept his position... it happens they are both humans and we make mistakes
what is total BS is arguing on the internet who had the right to being in the corner and who wasn't... if max slowed down or went little wide, he would have lost one position and could keep fighting to get it back.... we would have had a great race and everyone would be happy
they both could have made different decision to keep racing but they didn't, they collided and it ended worse for one of them... that's racing, end of story

what should fans be mad is toto and chris cry babies going to mom and pointing fingers which kid is to blame for broken window...

it looks more and more like football where players are faking injuries and crying on the ground wishing for penalties

[crude kiln]

@zenith oriole I agree with most you say. But the thing for me simply is that Max was ahead, and that becomes the deciding factor. Had it been the opposite I would've taken Lewis' side. But I suppose alot of it might come down to what ppl regard as a "race incident" that shouldn't award a penalty. I just don't see that in this situation personally.

But hope it will be cleaner from now on and that both Merc & RB stop whining so much 😅 Sure been a whiny season so far.

[zenith oriole]

all those regulations and rules omg... i miss the times when it was sport for real man who wasn't afraid to die doing what they loved... it's turning into another sport for little kids and cry babies that are forcing rules on everything
you either wanna see racing or you wanna see cars going around the circute doing vrrrrm because that's all those rules are causing... soon nobody will be risking any overtake moves because i will be afraid they get the penalty

[dense condor]

I think that both Lewis and Max made tactical errors and/or mistakes, but Max made a much bigger strategic error in not adjusting his mindset to being ahead in the Driver's Championship. If he lost 8 points to Lewis, he'd still be ahead by 25 points, and in the faster car. Max also owns the tiebreaker if they should be tied on points.

Imagine if Lewis hadn't pushed the magic button at Baku. Then Max would have lost the lead in the Driver's Championship.

[tawny sphinx]

I'm going to admit I'm biased in Hamilton's favour, but Max's extra turning in of the steering wheel, for me, means he gets a lesson in not taking unnecessary risks, and Hamilton didn't even charge him for teaching him

[brazen mulch]

Lewis missed the apex fractionally which is why he was given a penalty. Seriously Lewis had no issues making the corner, you can't say he "barely made it" he was smacked by Max which changed his positioning and allowed Charles through. Watch the video and you'll learn a lot. That's all there is to say about it. Hamilton was committed to the overtake, at that point only Max could avoid it and he still turned in on a car he knew was there.

[brazen mulch]

Hamilton had his wing by Max's front tyres ; look at the FIA's own graphics - he was alongside on the inside and thus has every right to contest the corner. This wasn't a dive in any way, shape or form.

[weak fern]

You guys are missing an important factor: racing line. In the accident the only one who could do copse corner flat out was max because Lewis was squeezed on the wall by a legit defensive move and in that point they were side by side but when the corner arrived max could carry more speed into the corner because he was in the racing line, Lewis not and he would never normally approach that corner such close to the wall and that's were he misjudged the speed, the car weight and cold tyres that ultimately caused the missed apex and the collision. As a comparison you can take the overtake on Leclerc were he gave Lewis plenty of space in the inside and Lewis being close to the ideally racing line could do the corner better. To the people who writes that max close the door they are delusional because the gap in both the cases I wrote about was the same the only thing that changes is Lewis position, wide in the accident and on the apex in the overtake. You can raise that max could give more space but why when he has the corner and the racing line? Ultimately the blame falls on Lewis being the one colliding by misjudging the corner and that's why the stewards gave him the penalty.

[weak fern]

You have a very distorted view of how racing should be, it's not the hunger games were people fight to the death it's competition between cars and men. Death should never be in the equation.

[alpine onyx]

Hamilton acted like a baby, and about the racing line, make your own, dont follow the one that's made.
Lewis didnt do well.

[weak fern]

It's called racing line because it's the fastest way to do the corner and ultimately the one with most grip. Lewis was forced on a slow racing line and misjudged the low grip, the tighter angle and crashed into max. But everything said everyone is mad because Lewis punted out max and winning the race with no significant ripercussion. If Lewis retired that wouldn't be such drama and to think merc would have because of a broker rim on the front left adds only more fuel to the fire

And the red flag helped Merc massively

[stuck fulcrum]

are we still talking about that ? move on ppl 🙂

penalty was assigned, 10s, over

[zenith heath]

What? Are you crazy? Its holiday time & we still dont know when the new season starts 🤭

[stuck fulcrum]

March 2022, in Australia most likely

imagine if next year we have 4 competitive cars

mer/rb/mcl/fer

could be an exciting seasons decided by Masi and his random penalties!

[weak fern]

Imagine Max/RB, Russel/Merc, Norris/MC and Ferrari/Leclerc 😍

All fighting for championship

[zenith heath]

Before Fer gets an competetive car, the vatikan wont exist anymore.

[stuck fulcrum]

we kinda had one in 2017/2018 but spinny boy decided that it was too hard to stay on track

I will never forgive him for Germany 2018

[weak fern]

Oh come on let me hope a bit

[zenith oriole]

not what i meant and also not as it should be but as it used to be... they were experience men racing the fastest and most dengerous cars well aware of what can happen if they make mistakes like this... now this sport turned into parade of cry babies on circute who whenever forces out of "their" racing line are calling their mom to call race director to force penalty on other guy 🤣

if cars get more competetive next season it's gonna be awesome penalty show because they will be able to race each other as the cars will be same but they won't be allowed to do so anyway because they would be given penalty for putting other guy in danger 😄

[weak fern]

I disagree, I hope next season when they supposedly can stay much more close behind they will be able to pass each other on a lot more corners, like in MotoGP/SBK etc, but clean battles should always be the goal and dangerous contacts always penalized

Also because of budget cap

[stuck fulcrum]

you can't compare bikes, they are 10 times smaller and they have basically 0 downforce

[weak fern]

I'm not comparing cars and bikes, I was talking about having more easy overtakes. I don't like the dive every corner and swap 5 positions like in Moto3 😂

[stuck fulcrum]

yeah it's easier for that reason, smaller size and not suffering from loss of downforce

the cornering speed of a F1 car compared to any other cars/bikes is nuts

[weak fern]

Yes but be able to follow easily means being able to overtake in more spots and avoid risky moves that eventually can cause crashes, if Hamilton could have followed max if he backed out through copse and attack again after maggots/beckets all this would have never happend

[stuck fulcrum]

he had so much more speed he could have overtaken anywhere else

but apparently races are won on lap 1 these days

[weak fern]

That's what caused the incident because max would have been quicker through maggots/beckets and would have pulled a gap

[stuck fulcrum]

MER was so fast on H he would have got max in the 2nd stint, on top of having BOT at disposal, while PER was sleeping again

[stuck fulcrum]

I don't think so, MER was the fastest car last weekend, so much speed due to less downforce

[weak fern]

Only on staights

[crude kiln]

I also felt like Mercs were a bit faster last weekend

[zenith oriole]

new cars just gonna cause more situations like this one... basicaly racing line will be always fastest so the guy infront will be defending it as much as possible and it will force other guy to go inside and hope he gets infront soon enough to have "right" to push other guy out of the racing line

and if all the divers will be racing with mentaly "i have the right to be here so i can sqeeze other guy into wall" it will be raining penalties left and right 😄

[weak fern]

You are making a point on a single episode, how many other overtakes were clean that you are not even considering?

[zenith oriole]

they were clean because one of the cars was way faster and could safely overtake the other... or the guy being overtaken give space to other guy to allow overtake without a accident

bottas pulled same stupid sqeeze move in italy but back then both drivers ended it bariers and it wasn't battle over lead so nobody cared

look at lec when he got overtaken... it was very similar situations and he could have sqeezed hamilton as well because he had right to be in racing line but he didn't

[weak fern]

You base you assumptions on the fact the every driver will risk the race, the car and potentially health every time he needs to defend/overtake

[jaunty cave]

The so called imaginary “racing line” is not always the fastest way to go. Any racing driver would tell you that.

[brazen mulch]

no he didn't ; he made the corner just fine, he overtook LeClerc and Norris there later in the race. He missed the apex by a fraction. Watch the Palmer vidoe.

[brazen mulch]

the LeClerc pass is covered in Palmer's video too ; Hamilton was further back and not alongside Charles so he took a different approach and angle into the corner.

[stuck fulcrum]

Norris just let him through, even easier than BOT

[brazen mulch]

Norris had no defense at that point for sure ; Ham was way quicker out of the previous corner

[stuck fulcrum]

yeah and no reason to fight, like LEC, no reason at all when the car behind is 1.2s faster

too much of a difference

[brazen mulch]

watch the Palmer video and learn a bit about racing and you'll be good

[brazen mulch]

watch the video, learn. Hamilton had every right to contest the corner. harsh penalty but acceptable. both teams upset suggest the stewards got it spot on.

[onyx pendant]

imagine F1 has this map

[iron stag]

@brazen mulch
Lmao, you mean 10 sec for taking out your rival and gaining a lot of ground your rival worked over 4 races is harsh. How funny. 10 sec is nothing for a car like the Merc and RB. You saw how Max overcame 20sec in what 20 laps in France and Lewis overcame the same 20+ seconds in 19 laps. A drive-through was the penalty to go. Or even a 10 second stop/go

But, remember that back in the olden days of Schumacher, Prost, Senna etc. drivers were straight up DSQed for taking the WDC rivals out. You’ve got to be kidding me

[brazen mulch]

That's a bizarre interpretation of what happened. Max closed the door on a car that was on his inside. There was no intent whatsoever on Hamilton's part to take out Max. I suggest you watch the Palmer video - it's a racing incident all day long, comparing it to the antics of Senna and Schumacher shows how wide of the mark you are.

[iron stag]

It’s the same situation nonetheless, intentional or not

[brazen mulch]

Hamilton had the right to contest the corner ; his car was majority alongside Max on the run in to the corner - he couldn't just disappear

[iron stag]

Also, How was max supposed to take the corner if he hadn’t closed down on Hamilton. As you can see after the collision, Hamilton was on a line that took him to the edge of the track on the exit. So as you say, if Max shouldn’t have turned in, Max would’ve been shoved off the track nonetheless. With Hamilton’s line and his nature to not back off, clearly shows he was trying to shove max off track, play it like a Bahrain and win, just like how he did to Rosberg(the last WDC competition he had in Merc) in 2014,15,16.

[brazen mulch]

Not what happened. There was more than enough room on the outside for Max to take the corner.

You can't extrapolate Hamilton's exit from the corner based on a post collision trajectory, that's not where he was headed before Max clobbered his front wheel

[iron stag]

That’s not a problem. But Max being the lead car also, had the right to the corner. You know, when your front wing touches the rear wheel of a car, you aren’t significantly alongside. Also, there was a lot of room (1 and a half car lengths wide) on the inside which Lewis could’ve taken and he didn’t. He pulled off a move which was dirtier than anything Pastor Maldonado pulled off

[iron stag]

Wdym Clobbered his front wheel ? There was no damage to it ?

[brazen mulch]

broken rim that was fixed under red

just watch Palmers video ; better explained than I ever could

[iron stag]

A broken rim ? That changed his trajectory out of the corner ? What a joke ? Hamilton was on such a line that he wouldn’t be able to make the apex and was going to run wide anyways

[brazen mulch]

I think you need to understand driving more

[iron stag]

What part do you mean I need to understand ?You say this to everyone who’s arguing.

[steel nexus]

Max on the outside had to make the corner as well. Hamilton had lots of room on the inside. They both had the right to be where they were. So the argument is, Hamilton could have made the apex giving max more room. Max could have went wide. In the end, Hamilton predominantly at fault, but not completely at fault.

[iron stag]

That’s the corner summed up. Thanks Jeff

[jaunty cave]

Both drivers are to blame for the outcome of the incident. They both went into that corner faster than they should have. After seeing the footage over and over I’ve come to the conclusion it’s a racing incident. Saying that it was Max corner is incorrect. For the simple fact that the overtaking rules stated by the FIA state that you need to be substantially alongside to contest the corner. It doesn’t state that you need to be ahead.

[iron stag]

But, isn’t it that the driver at lead has the right to the corner ? He dictates where the corner should be ? The rules are different for side-by-side tho

[jaunty cave]

As stated by the FIA you do not need to be ahead. Substantially alongside it stats. The ahead car does not dictate how the corner is taken by the other driver if they are “substantially” alongside. Which Hamilton was.

[iron stag]

Still, Hamilton had to leave space on the outside for Max to take the corner just like Max left space for Hamilton to make the corner.

My guess is, Hamilton wanted to make it a Bahrain, where Max was alongside going into the corner and he completed the move outside, and so he had to give the position off track. However, If Ham wins the title, this would be the key moment

[jaunty cave]

Ultimately I believe the stewards only gave a penalty because one driver DNF’d. I the stewards stated that Hamilton was predominately to blame not fully. Which is somewhat correct. As both drivers where to blame.

[brazen mulch]

Max had more than enough room on the outside, I don't know why you think the line he took is the only line he had through the corner. Once Hamilton got hit he doesn't know if his suspension is broken or whatever, his line was totally altered

[jaunty cave]

Max needed to leave space as well as Lewis was substantially alongside entering the corner.

[brazen mulch]

Hamilton won't win the title ; the Red Bull is a much quicker car. The one thing that is the case (as Palmer points out) is that Hamilton HAD to get past early on or Max was driving off into the sunset. Max shoved his elbows out through three corners to that point on the lap, Hamilton deferred, Copse was the last chance he had so he stuck to his guns and Max came off second best. Racing incident.

[stuck fulcrum]

Palmer 😄

[iron stag]

That was the first lap. Hamilton could’ve got him in the pits. He could’ve got him using an aggressive 2 stop strategy. He could’ve got him if there was a safety car. There’s literally the entire race left and I don’t think why you believe it was his last chance

Verstappen got Hamilton in the 70th Anniversary race using a two stop strategy iirc

[brazen mulch]

did you watch the sprint race? Once Max was done weaving around he just drove off. An F1 driver hoping for a safety car isn't an F1 driver.

The Red Bull was the quicker car, in clean air Max would just disappear. Hamilton and Max both knew that.

[jaunty cave]

He needed to pass on the first lap. That was plan A. No team goes into a race on plan B and C.

[iron stag]

But the lap wasn’t even fully complete. There was the entire race. Heck, even in lap 1 there was the last corner which would’ve been the perfect opportunity for a dive bomb / switch back

I don’t know if you can see it, but isn’t there space on the inside for Hamilton to take ? It looks like Hamilton is slowly pushing Max wide

For anyone saying, Hamilton wasn’t shoving Max off

This was Hamilton’s line. He couldn’t have made the corner himself on that line. There was no way max could’ve

[jaunty cave]

Do you understand that Max is in clean air in front and would have just pulled away. Even though Mercedes had a slightly faster car on the weekend. If Lewis did not go for the pass on the first lap he would not have caught Max. Only way was if a safety car came out sometime in the race or if Red Bull had tyre degradation issues. But teams don’t go into a race on plan b and C they go in on plan A. And Lewis plan A was to get ahead on the first lap.

[iron stag]

True, there wasn’t any other way to pass Max.

While turning in as well, Max left enough space (a car length’s space) on the inside

[brazen mulch]

but here's the problem, he's turning in KNOWING Hamilton is there. He doesn't have to turn in as sharp as that. Hamilton can't just disappear.

[iron stag]

Isn’t there a right hand turn there ? Or is it a straight ? Im confused

There is only a requirement for a car’s width of space as wel

Not more

In this situation, I think there might even be more

[brazen mulch]

why are you confused you don't have to turn right at a set rate ; just enough to get around the corner safely which Max failed to do

genuine question - have you watched Jolyon Palmers video posted above?

[jaunty cave]

The camera from Max’s car shows he mad a slight turn. Than decided to go for a aggressive turn even though he sees Lewis there.

[iron stag]

Let’s say even Max had to adjust just like Lewis was going (which is absurd since the car ahead dictates the path), then with Lewis going wide, Max had to go even wider

Thus losing the corner with an exact repeat of Bahrain. And as you say, Lewis would’ve pulled off and Max would’ve had no chance to retake the lead

[brazen mulch]

Hamilton was majority alongside ; by the FIA's own rule book he has a right to the corner as does Max

[iron stag]

alright. Still, max left enough space. When majorly alongside as you say, Max left a car length of space as mentioned in the very same rule book you call upon

[brazen mulch]

Right ; overtaking is not just a corner ; Hamilton's move on Verstappen started far earlier in the lap culminating in a much better drive onto the straight and into Copse

[brazen mulch]

He did. But he also knew Hamilton was inside him and couldn't disappear. So he had a choice, hope that Hamilton could brake harder or take a wider line which likely would let Hamilton through. Max chose the former and the result was he ended up in the wall.

[iron stag]

Hamilton just had to press the brakes. It wasn’t that difficult. He should’ve pressed the brakes and disappeared when he knew he wouldn’t be able to make the turn. In the very rule book you mention, it is said both cars had to leave space. Not just the car outside. I’m confused how you expect Max to go even when Hamilton was all four wheels off

[brazen mulch]

Hamilton had absolutely no problem making the turn. He missed the apex by a tiny fraction.

[jaunty cave]

Both drivers are at fault. Do you not agree with that. Or are you just some super Max fan?

[brazen mulch]

again I'll ask - have you watched Palmer's video?