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โThatโs as fast as she goesโ
Gotta stay on the track
brotherrrr nahhhh
Yeah its not good
Charles starting last ๐ญ
Perez making second Q3 in a row deserves a lifetime contract
Bottas proving he still has quality to be in F1
Max Verstappen is insaine
He just stayed on the throttle all the way through it
Leclairc could save it. But heโs the only one
Did you see Norrisโ hair? Holy moly, something went wrong.
Great quali for hulk and bottas!
Russell drove in the way of Lawson, on his fast lap.
So russell should be bullied in the media.
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Did Lawson pretend heโs going to be killed ?
If not - all is fine
Nothing yet
So that's colapinto, albon, charles and hulk who all have grid penalty's?
Lawson should go to the stewards and complain how dangerous that was and how he saw his life flash before his eyes
Where's Russel penalty tho...
Russel wonโt get a penalty โฆ heโs got the right passport
On a different topic โฆ stewards got it right for Perez and Piastri โฆ Charles was really over the white line
can we talk about how great bottas was in quali
Q3 in a Sauber
Just flat out incredible
fr
lets hope he can maintain p9
he deserves good points
Yeah
Would be a good end to Sauber's year
And a good sendoff.
Anyone got f1 Tv to share?
Poor leclerc
Against the rules of both f1 and this discord
Worst possible time to get a component penalty.
Also worst time to get a lap deleted.
Just not a weekend that's going well for him.
Unless something really crazy happens tomorrow, it seems that McLaren will win the constructor's championship.
On a completely unrelated note, is Michael Masi available on short notice? ๐คฃ
Heโs going to need a timely SC if he wants to help Carlos in anyway
Thรฉ perfect GP tomorrow (for Ferrari) would be a 1st turn crash involving Piastri and Norris and Carlos gets the win and 25pts โฆ
BUT THATโS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
Carlos takes out Lando and Oscar. Charles wins with some magic timing of a sc.
P2 in drivers , p1 constructor. Itโs a win
Even better โฆ but would Carlos risk the Carlando relationship?
Iโd risk it to go out with a bang and win the constructor championship
This will top AD21 no doubt
Whereโs Karen in this scenario ? Maybe he could take care of both McLaren like Bottas a few years ago
Karen just crashes on his own as heโs scared to come close to max anyway
Thatโs the magic timing of sc I mentioned above
Max is like โwhy am I here even this week? I already wonโ
top 10 anime betrayals
Wow Hadjar had some amazingly bad luck there lol
I thought Charles had it bad but damn ๐
What happened in f2?
๐ lol
?
Hadjar had a technical issue at the start and had to be pulled in the pits. Ended up a lap behind everyone ๐
Title fight was over before it even began
How hulkenberg got a black flag and hadjar not?
The stewards retired him
But he still got back
That I missed but it wouldnโt have made a difference anyway even if Bortoletto was out also
Yeah
I hope max wins again as a giant middle finger to Fia
But will he crash KR? ๐
Well, unlucky. He drove good for yesterday sprint tho with his broken front wings. Well, just the right endplate, but still.
Bortoletto was excellent too yesterday. I'm waiting for highlights for today race in yt. Definitely comes out after f1 race ๐
who is winning the final race of the 2024 season?
10
21
1
NOR
Will Bottas end off with points?
14
23
1
Yes
Ola
How high was Will Buxton this morning?
Chaos ๐
BRO WHATS GOING ON
Wasn't there a stalled car as well
LETS GO
Fr
Isn't looking well for the 61% who thought Bottas would finish in the points ๐
gasly p3
Trust
Checo ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
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gasly did a very good upgrade since the brazil gp
Already out ๐ญ
great start for ferrari
Charles p8 sainz p2 and piastri p19
Max woke up and thought, today, I'm going to be a barsteward
nobody is missing perez anyways
Max woke up and decided to help ferrari :)
LECLERC P8
I LOVE THIS SEXY GERMAN
FERRARI GOT THIS IN THE BAG
Nah
Mate what the heck did Leclerc do?
If lando wins the race than mclaren win the constructors I think
Brother you're a tifosi
What you mean nah
Ima need max to crash into the other mclaren
He drive ๐
charles p8 already
now piastri is ending everyone races just because he couldnt make it
Going off currently standing:
Mclaren 665
Ferrari 641
We can't have lando winning the race man
We need lando to drop as much as possible
oscar is going to retire
Max could do the funniest thing
he is going to boxs
So Oscar didnโt leave enough room
not really
Then crashed into a Williams too
even if charles comes up a bit
10 second pen for max
I canโt wait for stewards to penalize max
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There we go
wow
Tbf he doesn't have much to lose
VERSTAPPEN DOING VERSTAPPEN THINGS
fia finally penalizing max?
Fr
It's unreal
Max: if you no longer go for a gap that exists you no longer a racing driver
I bet itโs Herbert again
Already won the wdc, he can't win the wcc. May aswell do whatever
It's not Oscar's fault
It was not his fault for hitting the Williams from behind too?
When did he last do that before today?
Charles woo ๐
Wait did he hit Colapinto
Ye
Surely looked that way
Hence the front wing damage
Every race when he doesn't win
And even then...
Checo will have to do some psychological treatment after this season
Lol
But of course heโs at McLaren who have to win so โฆ
Piastri is dead to me
Charles p7
Deport him!
Bet
Im late! Holy moly!!
He disrespect Colapinto he disrespect me
You missed everything bro ๐ญ
Only lap 8
Oscar happy about max getting a penalty
Too bad he will probably exit around him from pits ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
Can ferrari win if they get 2,3, with piastri out of point?
Don't think so
Looking forward to episode 2
Ferrari will win if they get 1-3
Exactly
So we either need sainz to pick up the pace, or max to crash into the other mclaren
:)
LOL
I believe max crashing Norris might happen sainz catching up is a dream
Piastri 10 second pen
Ocon 5 seconds penalty when?
โOscar has beeen given 10 sec penaltyโ โgoodโ
The fun fact is the race is seemingly nice
so we ignoring stroll in the p10?
Not Fernando ๐
With so many out of a seat or moving around next season, there was always going to be some argie bargie
Fernando is old
Sainz need to fight
Ain't he called osama bin russell
Fernando is goat
if leclerc overtakes hulkenberg im invading france and monaco
Karen Russell
He's most commonly know as Jรถrg Rรผรler
Aka Merc new drama queen ๐
Translate ples
George Russell
If max dnfs lando I'm changing my nationality to Dutch
Me too brother me too
Ferrari fans cheering for Max is funny ๐
Never thought I'd see the day where I'd be cheering max tbh
Never say never ๐
We have torpedo George. Need Missile Max today
Ferrari has been stronger through the year on hards I hope we see something there elsewhere Norris ainโt losing that p1
Charles p5
Leclerc genuinely cooking
Time for Lando to lose focus again and we have a race ๐
Just praying for 1 mistake
Nah he's showing Hamilton who's boss at Ferrari
Fingers crossed for Norris engine failure
You wanna win due to luck?
Feel bad for Bottas
Lec from 19-5 is not luck
Man deserved a point
I wanna win by whatever it takes
If it takes luck then so be it
Engine failure is tho. From Ferrai perspective ๐
Itโs in the game man come on ๐๐
Nothing lucky about an engine failure
Would simply be a skill issue from the mclaren mechanics
L in garage
Leclerc is cooking man is driving driving
โLap 1 incidents usually donโt result in penalties. Unless itโs Maxโ ๐
Gotta hold him back somehow ๐
I just hope Ferrari is faster with hards
Ferrari can use that to slow Norris after pits with lec
Of course stroll gets the black and white flag
The usual suspect
MAN IT IS SO STRESSFUL
Iโm surprised heโs still in the race
Chill. It's over. McLaren has it.
I'm surprised he still has a seat
Mr daddy's money
I believe in everything
Itโs of course pure talent and definitely not having ties with the team owner. Just like Checo
Anyways who do you reckon races for cadillac?
Ric and someone from the us
Latifi and Sargeant
Is there even a good us driver currently?
Shouldโve bet on Norris
Apparently they're looking at a Indy car driver
I forgot his name
Why tho
Pato? Palou?
Saregw
The McLaren guy?
It'll be either O'Ward or Hertha
I believe Hertha
No it's not I guy I'd heard of before
An 11th team on the grid means more of a chance for an f2 driver to get promoted.
Would love to see Arthur leclerc in f1 but I reckon it's too soon
Marketing stuff - they will definitely want someone that is familiar in the us
Bottas could pass as a voluntary texan
This race is ending up to be way more interested then what I thought...
LEC undercut on Kurt. Hope it succeeds
Karen
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Man got a huge ego
Lawson giving everyone a hard time today
Lawson fighting for checoโs seat
I still reckon yuki gets the main rb seat over liam
Nothing new๐
Hasn't yuki out qualified lawson every race so far?
Leclerc is the man today hats off to him
Where will charles be after everyone pits?
Wheel no attach
3-4
Aight
Piastri might still get points after all that
He got a +10 and 1 more pit
Completely forgot about him icl
Forgot about the pen aswell lmao
is this the record?
Plan c ๐
What record?
Pia in p10
for the fastest pitstop
No
the one from norris
No
lol
Record is like 1.8
im so dumb
Yea
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOI
1.8 by mclaren
Sainz won 3 seconds
Pinto beans :(
MY CAN OF BEANS
Pretty decent race so far
Thought this race was gonna be dead
But it's been pretty solid
Yeah tends to be a boring track
nah but if sainz get to a drs zone
Apart from 2021 ;)
and get 1 second to norris
Oscar stuck between Alo? Damage, I guess?
might win
I hope hards work better for Ferrari
I hope this rookie keeps piastri behind
Since when was lewis in p4
He started on hards
Max Lewis have not pitted
Ah that makes sense
Would mean when they do ferrari p2 p3
Possible one stop?
Ferrari need 1-3 for championship
Plan c is probably that
damn im late. someone pls summary
Penaltys and collisions
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Carlos needs to overtake lando and defend like crazy
lol verstappen
P3 for charles is very possible
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Or send verstappen as a missle to nor
Bottas puncture
damn checho is last
Went from giving people punctures to getting one himself
NOOOOOO
Sorry bottaass...
That's a big hit
damn rip bottas
That hurts to see
Bottas giving his goodbyes to Magnussen
Rip bottas ๐โโ๏ธ๐ซก
magnussen didn't even care
Surely a safety car for the debris?
Pls for the love of god
Don't want a repeat of last race
Safety car
Now I need Albon to overtake Stroll and gets points
Watch them wait till 2 people get punctures again
Oscar yet to pit ?
Nah but Hamilton is doing a really good job
Heโs in hards
Only doing a 1 pit stop
He pitted early
Did he serve the 10 sec ?
No
No was before
For someone who started p15
Now he's serving it
Unserved 10sec penalty on Pia
Oscar hasnโt served it yet
Did now
There we go
Pia down to p15
CARLOS PUR SOME SPICE
Magnsussen fastest lap ๐
Leclerc is pushing
Does FER win if SAI take NOR out and LEC wins?๐
unluckily no
I think so, itโs 21 points no?
How's the race so far out of 1-10? I'm out so missing it.
7 or 8
But that would push Oscar up
Max and Oscar spun after touching turn 1 ๐
21
3 dnfs, 3 penalties, charles absolutely cooking
Oh
is that used mediums for ham?
SAINZ GO TAKE NORRIS OUT
a safety car could be good for ham cause he will change to mid tyre so more fasteer
And also gets p2 in drivers
is mclaren currently winning the wcc with this standing?
Yes
The sky is crazy
Sainz just needs to dive bomb nor and take him out the race
Iโm they need 14 more points compared to now
The orange sky shows McLaren will win it
or both 1 and 2
goooo sainz
Aren't you a mclaren fan?
๐ I had this colour for years because I love orange
Oh
Yesh is more likely ppl here want the colour and don't support the teams their profile says ๐
ofc no way Qnyx is merc fan
Valid
Luckily for Me I'm a ferrari fan and my favourite colour is red
i wish for a hammertime :L
Iโm a big KR fan. Always appreciate good actors ๐๐๐
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verstappen is fast -_-
Norris escaping sainz again man
Sainz should put some pressure
if Norris were gonna drop to p2 or even p3. Where does Piastri gotta end to still win the wcc?
McLaren with a pretty decent day today after Bortolettoโs title too
Stroll def: 0
Together they need 21 pts to hold. So 7 I think?
What position is that I can never remember points per position
Just know a win is 25 and second is 18
I'm so biased to underdogs. I want Ferrari to win now ๐
6th for 8 pts. Drops to 6 for 7th
McLaren considering a pit ? What
Norris possible pit?
Why
Dude is a rollercoaster today
Wouldnโt he go out after Charles this way?
Heโs probably pushing or is kind games
Plot twist
Probably planning for sc scenario
Mind games probably
Is a scenario similar to 2021 ๐
If sc happens I think ferrari would pit as well
Imagine Norris losing it. British fans will have a dejavu ๐
HAHAHAHAHAHHA
I hope not ๐
Would had been the other way around if FER was leading ๐ That's just how I am when watching sports I suppose
Actually want it to happen so we can have something to laugh at for the next years ๐
I just noticed Albon in P9
How does a alpine go from p19 to a p5 car ๐
Copy paste
NOOOO GASLYYYYYYYYYY ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Who they copying???
McLaren
Like force India did with Mercedes years ago
Copy about what?
Aero etc
Oof
15laps remaining
It feel to short ngl
Sainz is asleep
:(
Sainz falling behind 5.1 now
Sainz thinks he's in a Williams already
Sup guys
I hope heโs conserving tyres otherwise Norris took it
Bro when is the f1 race
Itโs now ending 10 to go
Yea
Who is first
Norris
Pmg
5 seconds ahead of Sainz
Oscar wanted to torpedo one more guy from behind ๐
Pia crash pls
Norris gonna get disqualified for his car being underweight (I'm delusional)
Totally possible (praying to god rn)
Were can i watch f1 for free
Idk
On your local tv channel
Awww
Sainz 6s behind ๐ญ
go piastri
What is bro doing
Manโs not even trying
break testing Charles on the last sec
Sainz ferrari dominance might scare people so they needed to nerf him
Carlos will be a legend if he does it
damn Tsunoda
I hope Carlos is conserving and go full attack now
Norris is about to lap Oscar ๐
Max so cooked lol
Sainz needs to go full attack mode
Fr
I hope Hamilton doesnโt get close to Charles
Fr
This is gonna be so amazing
His tyre are dead๐ซ
My mom said i cant talk to stranger
Ye mclaren has won the constructors
NOOOOO
We were so close man
puncture?
But Ferrari should say to magnussen
:(
Any back marker team crash now
Where's stroll when u need him
FR
Stroll now is the perfect time to crash into a wall
NOW IS TIME FIR STROLL TO MAKE HISTORY
Norris ๐
Max with 2 penalty points also? lol
nah its gg?
Magnussen crash into norris pls
21 dejavu pls
Charles :(
Norris the track is free, do whatever u want (go get a +10sec for track limits)
Man did everything he could
Such a disappointing race from sainz icl
He deserves to be the driver or the day
How can anyone be named Sinner?๐ I'd changed name right away
Why? The McLaren was just faster
Because it just feels sainz was waiting to attack but it never happened
I think that's everything for Ferrari pace. Lec not closing the gap to Car either
Canโt attack when you canโt even get close
Man race pace from Sainz is not there
ferrari blew their only chance? do we wait another decade for a chance like this
This is race pace
Next year is our year (again)
I donโt think they can go much faster than this
its def gg
Too late Liam ๐ฆ
Get a puncture Nor...
Still got hope norris dqs
LIAM UR TOO LATE SMH
Nice one ham
congrats mclaren
Ham
Congratulations mclaren and verstappen for winning the wdc and wcc
Fair play to Mclaren. Strong pace
Congrats Mclaren (penalty incoming for being underweight)
Nice to see McLaren and Ferrari pit crew congratulating each other
is it me or don't I get the feeling "wow mclaren won?"
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Noooo
Feel a bit for McClaren as the British comms were more concerned about Hamilton coming 4th
Cuz it doesn't feel surprising
Considering they've had the fastest car majority of the season I would've expected them to have a even bigger lead
Cuz ferrari can't do anything today ๐คญ
true
dw we wait next decade
Unfortunately it was over Friday / yesterday too
Well, Max did try to help Ferrari at the start...๐ซฃ๐
Anyway, letโs see next few days ๐
Yuki crashing Maxโs car will be hilarious
I think Sainz going to Williams is a W move. We might see Williams shining near future.
Heโs going only for a year heโs joining Audi 100%
mhm maybe but JV team doing well.
JV to Merc, max to merc also, KR to RB ๐
Toto ๐
the crowd was more amazed by ham than mclaren winning
a moment of respect and silence for sir lewis Hamilton please
Seeing Lewis leaving Merc is level with Messi leaving Barca and Ronaldo leaving Madrid
nah this was more like Mbappe going to Madrid
Zak to Ben right now โthanks for the help โ
isn't that hair transplant
Yup
Can give us some great radio messages ๐
I want whatever anti depression pills Charles is on
Bro so down but still with them ๐ญ
istg
Leclerc looking depressed as always๐ญ๐
So this wonderful season has ended.
Yep
Now we wait for 2025
Itโs gonna be an interesting season I think
Top 113 in whole F1 fantasy on provisional points
If something changes on final points top 100 would be possible
My score is 5130. Somewhere between 9k to 21k๐
So, Lawson is eclipsing Tsunoda?
Wait, my brother js sent me a "news" saying sainz might go to Mercedes and kimi to williams-๐ง idk
i just watched the highlights, absolutely fantastic race
Who are we going to spend the next three months criticizing ๐
Karen
Great race. So many well deserved penalties ๐ฃ
Yeah Oscar needs some glasses today. Doesnโt look in mirrors and also doesnโt look in front either ๐
Hahahahaaaa
Colapinto no idea what happened there, lock up? Way too close either way
I mean Oscar locking
He fell asleep
Oh yea 100% Oscar at fault on that
And the other one they just needed to penalize max for anything
Why so?
Usually turn 1 accidents are racing incidents that just go unnoticed
At least Oscar was fair this time and said max apologized immediately after
Didnโt go around claiming max wanted to kill him or something
And the "actions of a world champion...sure" quote from Piastri lol
It's hot on track I'm sure
If he apologised then fair enough, glad that he did
But the radio message suggests he didn't agree. Who knows any more, feels like it's just turning into a drama series
Both were at fault imo, but if you have to put the blame it should be on Max since he came in so hot in that corner.
Why not?
Think he means since they normally have a much softer stance on incidents at the start of races.
turn 1 incidenr
Ah OK understood
Feels like the new RD is just going ham on penalties
That said, same as always, the driving was overly aggressive; "incidents" on L1T1 fair enough but he has to learn that his level of aggression cannot continue
โIf nationality โ British and driver = Max issue max penalty. Else - tap on the shoulderโ
Impressive from Gasly
underrated driver
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That seems to have changed recently, and frankly I think it's right.
Being too lenient on Lap 1 incidents has had a noticeable issue, especially in regards to Max. He commonly dive bombs into Lap 1 Turn 1 with very little possibility of even making the corner and pushing a driver clean off the track. Allowing that has led to him abusing the leniency in order to drive more recklessly.
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This is not the spot for the game
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So if max does it - itโs a penalty, but if anyone else does it - โfine, whatever โ? ๐
Any news about Checo yet ? Apart his delusions ?
โItโs not about me anymore, itโs about a whole country and a whole continent who is behind meโ like what ?
When you finish 285(!) points behind your teammate, have the title lost because of you, cause I donโt even know how much damage being as stubborn is silly
Buxton (who seemed so high this last race) said lawson was replacing Checo. It doesnโt add up
Yesterday I saw a quote from Helmut saying: ยซย There will be a decision tomorrow (Monday) on the 2025 lineup for Red Bull and Racing Bull, but I doubt the announcement will be Monday.ย ยป
Or something like that
No. If anyone does as such they should punish it as well.
Max is just the most highlighted offender in this situation.
There needs to be clarity about penalties and decisions.
Maybe that would somewhat appease viewers who, let's face it and be honest, don't (unless there is an F1 driver lurking) have experience of a track at that level.
It's the same argument many people have for football - the "armchair referee". Managers and players (drivers) are expected to face the press and explain why they didn't do xyz in a game (race), yet officials don't have to justify decisions.
If it was as simple as a ref saying "I sent x off because I thought he did this" then it would go some way to explain the decision. Same with the race director - we did this because...
At least in F1 there is a former driver on the review "VAR" team so there is input from a driver's perspective which doesn't exist in football.
Rugby TMO refereeing could teach a lot of sports about respect and transparency.
Hi, when the New season starts?
Only 95 days to go ๐
How crazy is that ? ๐ต๐ตโ๐ซ
Saw that earlier, incredible coincidences but more impressive that someone was able to pull those stats together ๐
You can always make something up if you want to ๐
Too bad I can't translate a saying we have for "statistics" ๐
roughly translated as "wish-listics" ๐ or "making-up-stics"
was it you with a language degree Jack?
Haha perhaps
Fine, i'll try ๐
We just say "lies, damned lies, and statistics"
"ะกัะฐัะธััะธะบะฐ" "ะกััะบะผะธััะธะบะฐ"
Why would you have a saying in Russian?
Statistics, statmystics I guess would also work in English ๐
You just failed your exam ๐ It's not even russian ๐ฆ
Hmmm ๐ค
Well ััะฐัะธััะธะบะฐ Is statistics
Are you going to throw in some kind of "it's Bulgarian" argument ๐
IT's not an argument, it is ๐
It's the same in Russian
which is the older language? ๐
Hahahaaa
Touche! ๐
It does, I admit. And I'm more annoyed when I try to look for something in Bulgarian to get Russian results. Like Karen Russell win ratio and I get some random Russian wiki page ๐
And here was me thinking you were Belgian/Dutch! Love it
Technically I am ๐ Have spent probably 1/3 of my life in both Belgium and the Netherlands and I feel more at home here also.
However I was born in Bulgaria, after high school I left and went on quite a long trip - US, the Netherlands, UK and Belgium for approximately 20 years now ๐
I thought so. Second part though, that's awesome!
Motorsport Italy says RBR chose Lawson today and Hadjar will be driving for Racing Bulls
Seemed as though Hadjar knew something when he was interviewed last week...
If it is the case I hope Lawson has a Mark Webber type person to ensure his career isn't destroyed before it even starts
Even though he comes across as a bit too cocky already ๐
he is cocky
Seems it
So, yuki has to prove he can beat hadjar now to get that redbull seat?๐ Feel really unfair for him
Can they just put Tsudona in the damn Red Bull instead of Lawson who is already washed
lawson js started his f1 career wym washed ๐ญ
n watchu mean put tsunoda in the red bull instead of lawson
tsunoda is lit da 1 who is driving the rb during post szn testing ๐ญ
Mclaren
Iโm feeling bad for Carlos sainz
Yuki slower than Hadjar ๐
Sainz dragged that Williams or albon and Colo wasn't good enough? ๐
This is like comparing times in free practice, there's nothing at stake, just testing...
Or do you want to look at how Yuki is faster than Piastri here? Because its the exact same thing. You cant compare them...
I still believe Yuki should get the seat instead of Lawson
But Lawson is already in if rumors are to be believed so it doesnt matter
Not quite especially when you are supposedly fighting for your seat. You will try to do your best and being slower than a guy with 2 fp1 sessions or something in the car isnโt actually ideal
I would probably prioritize keeping the car alive and following what the team wants
Yes, itโs testing, yes we donโt know if he went all out BUT he should at least try to be fast
#justiceForYuki!
But it was also results during testing that allowed danny ric to get a seat before. That's probably how they rolled in RB/RBR family
Leclercs time today was similar to his Q1 time and Sainz Q2 time, whatever thatโs worth ๐
But I believe theyโre running 25 tyres today?
I want them to give him a chance.
He deserves it more than Lawson imo. I'm sceptical towards both tho ๐ Crazy to me how they fumbled Sainz when they had the chance
They stuck with Perez who was atrocious, it canโt be any worse
Agreed. At least give him a 6 months contract!
Iโm really excited to see what Sainz and Williams can do. It will also be good to see how he compares to Albon.
Give him a year contract with the option to swap him back at the summer break if heโs doing badly.
Yup. Alot if things to look forward to next season when it comes to all new constellations!
Even better. I guess, at this rate, the 2nd rbr seat is based on who has better pr ahem money ahem
I do think they keep yuki for now until honda contract end with redbull next year. They probably want him to leave, but ties a clause with Honda. Just my guess.
Yeah, that does not look good for him if heโs looking at a Red Bull seat beside Max
Thatโs a very valid reason. Not a good one but easily plausible.
Yuki part time until summer break Lawson after. Or Vice versa. Then decide for 26
If they donโt do well might as well get Hadjar in also - at least more wind tunnel time ๐
At some point they will need to move drivers on for the upcoming talent, or whatโs the point of the program?
Then if Hadjar also doing badly, new face after 26 summer break? Oh, I'm all for the drama!๐คฃ
Indeed ! Especially if they donโt get the new regulations right ๐
Well โฆ no one knows as apparently money is more important factor ๐
Its seriously worrying how a powerhouse like RB has such weak drivers
They arenโt weak
They had Albon and Gasly
But chased them away stupidly
They also had Sainz and could even get him back
But no, money is more important โฆ.
Just wait for max to leave
nice
Williams seems to be on the right track also
Their goal, since James Vowles came in, has been towards 2026.
As much as weโd like to see a competitive car for Carlos as soon as next year, more likely to see them fight for 3-4-5 in 2026
3-5 would already be massive at that point
I have confidence in Jamesโฆ and if the Mercedes PU is as good as everyone says it will beโฆ anything is possible
I'm skeptical
I think Williams is just a temporary stint until Toto decides to retire and James moves back to Merc
Yes, he will help, but I don't think Vowles is there for the long run
Toto wonโt retire before giving a championship to Kimiโฆ so heโll stay out at Mercedes for another 5 years at least ๐
My dream would be to see Fernando win the WDC in 2026 with a magical Newey car
Yes pliis ๐ But sadly I think his age has got to him. Just doesn't have that magic anymore.
Toto will grab Max in 2026, win a few consecutive championships, then Kimi wins and Toto can retire ๐
I really want to see Max in a Merc suit. Or Ferrari one. Or both
Merc will suit him more though
WHAT THE BLOODY H*LL? ?!?!?!
I hope it's a clickbait thing. This can't be happening ๐
I know F1 is a business, but if MV goes to Merc then there would be absolute hell to pay in the short term.
What do you mean ? Merc paying off RB for Max's contract?
It will be compensated from merch alone ๐
No, I mean more the history. Perhaps I am being more traditional but Merc signing Verstappen after the 21 debacle (whichever way you see it, you know which way Merc fans will look at it) would surely be ridiculed. 10 years ago probably not, now absolutely. That's what I mean "short term"
Getting the top driver > any stupid arguments you might have had
Long term were he to win more trophies then I'm sure it would be forgiven, but there would be a significant number of Merc/Lewis fans who would never forgive Toto - and that's what I mean by the business side
Both Toto and Max are careful what they say for each other
Why are my arguments stupid? I'm simply putting across possible scenarios
No no
I didn't mean YOUR arguments are stupid
I meant that if you hold a grudge against it from what happend a few years (where Max wasn't even the guy to be blamed) - if you support the team it will be fine, especially if that guy wins you wins and championships
I am supporting the driver, not the team. I might be making fun of Karen for obvious and justified reasons - but that doesn't mean that I won't support Merc if Max moves there
I understand what you're saying.
What Am I summoned for, my brain is mushed from all the coding this morning
It's a driver vs team question in some respects. If people support drivers then fair, I don't know the answer anymore because the demographic has changed so much since I started watching!
I don't know. Felt the need for a global survey and you were the obvious choice ๐
Driver vs manufacturer in terms of support?
Man that feels like a long list ๐ญ what are the options
โDo you support a driver or the constructor? Will you support the driver no matter where he moves or the constructor no matter who the drivers are ?โ
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Ignore the above got messed up ๐
I thought that poll seemed interesting ๐
Every time that happens ๐
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๐จ the constructor no matter who the drivers are ?
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I might be too tired but that poll doesn't make much sense to me ๐
At least not the A option
I was simply the messenger, any enquires about the poll directly go to the creator ๐
So I'm winning that version yea?
I'm too tired to even try and imagine the outcome ๐
Haha I know who'd win ๐๐
of course. Why am I not surprised i'm blamed for X ๐
It's your thing. Sooner we both admit we work for Hutch the better ๐๐
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Exactly! ๐
I think he is. I watched a really good interview with JV on the High Performance YouTube channel and he said he needs this type of challenge in life.
That would be great actually - rebuilding the team and making it successful. Would be awesome if he achieves it with a legendary team also
P.s. Iโll watch it now, need something to listen to while working ๐
If you havenโt watched any of their videos you need to. A lot of people from F1 have been on there and itโs been really insightful.
This episode offers a rare glimpse into the mind of a Formula 1 leader on building culture, pushing boundaries and cultivating discipline.
James Vowles is the Team Principal of Williams Racing, joining the team in January 2022 after leaving his position as Motorsport Strategy Director at Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team. Jamesโ motorspor...
Otmar Szafnauer was also really good talking about Alpine ๐
I only saw their interview with Newey
Way way way way way too early to say ๐
Yeah right
Iโd vote for stroll before Checo
Nah but stroll would unironically make better than checo in RB
If this trend continues, it will be Leclerc vs Norris
Gasly had 0$ of damage which is quite impressive, but this is also really impressive
Both of them are really impressive! It's a season with 24 bloody races!
lando could have completed every lap as well if not for the collision with max in austria
The McLarens were really consistent this season.
I like Oscar but Pierreโs achievement is massive
Not only he finished with 0 damage, but also helped secure 6th in constructors (winning most of the points in that tractor)
Piere showed up when I thought he was not and didnโt when I thought he would. I predicted he get a podium in Saudi for example
Sorry final exam season has put my brain in the wall
As much as I remember from this season, they are quite the pollar opposite of each other too. When Oscar had a bad weekend (given the capabilities of his car) Gasly did well (also based on his tractors)! Oscar was like good>best>mid throughout the season, while Gas was like mid>worst>best.
That double podium in Brazil really revitalized Alpine.
They really ramped up after that race.
yep
YESSSS QNYX FINALLY COMES 2 HIS SENSES
To be honest what @heady sonnet probably meant is that Perez would be his 20th pick and Stroll his 19th overall to win the Championship ๐
When the point difference between max and checo is more than all other differences between teammates combined - Iโm being realistic
At least heโs younger ๐
And heโll be racing next seasonโฆ we are pretty much certain now that it wonโt be the case for Perez
Unless KitKat intervenes ๐
KitKat will tell Perez : Take ร break
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My 2024 Driver Rankings:
- Max Verstappen (9/10)
- Lando Norris (8.9/10)
- Oscar Piastri (8.9/10)
- Nico Hulkenberg (8.9/10)
- Pierre Gasly (8.5/10)
- Ollie Bearman (8.5/10)
- Charles Leclerc (8.3/10)
- Carlos Sainz (8.2/10)
- Yuki Tsunoda (8/10)
- Liam Lawson (7.9/10)
- George Russell (7.9/10)
- Alexander Albon (7.7/10)
- Fernando Alonso (7.7/10)
- Kevin Magnussen (7.5/10)
- Lewis Hamilton (7.5/10)
- Franco Colapinto (7.5/10)
- Estaban Ocon (7/10)
- Daniel Riccardo (6.8/10)
- Valtteri Bottas (6.8/10)
- Zhou Guanyu (6.5/10)
- Lance Stroll (5.3/10)
- Logan Sargeant (4.2/10)
- Sergio Perez (1.4/10)
"Bearman"
i mean
He's good but inexperienced.
Needs more experience in wet conditions.
Also Leclerc and Sainz had fairly good seasons and should be higher.
The Ferrari was rarely the fastest car after the mid season, yet they managed to pull wins with strong drives and well driven strategies.
Yeah, that's true, but McLaren needed a well deserved championship win to their name for their 3rd title
My 2024 driver rankings:
- verstappen 9.3/10
- norris 9/10
- leclerc 8.9/10
- piastri 8.8/10
- sainz 8.7/10
- gasly 8.6/10
- russel 8.4/10
- hulkenberg 8.2/10
- tsunoda 8.2/10
- hamilton 8/10
- bearman** 7.9/10
- alonso 7.8/10
- lawson* 7.8/10
- albon 7.8/10
- colapinto* 7.7/10
- magnussen 7.6/10
- ocon 7.5/10
- stroll 6.9/10
- ricciardo* 6.7/10
- bottas 6.7/10
- zhou 6.7/10
- doohan** 5.2/10
- sargeant* 4.9/10
- perez 3.7/10
- didnt race the full season
** raced less than 5 races
3rd???
Pretty sure mclaren have more than just 3 lad
Many many more
And then to think this is Ferrari we are talking about. Ferarri has actually mostly gotten on top of their strategy-clownshow issue
Bearman is hella overrated I have no idea what people see in him
Even less consistent than Yuki was in his first F1 days
Iโd say wait untill austria or silverstone to give a full opinion on ollie
Smooth operatorโค๏ธโ๐ฅ๐ฏ๐ถ๏ธ
My 2024 ranking:
- Max sidtappen (10/10)
- Leclerc (9.1/10)
- Norris (8.9/10)
- Sainz (8.2/10)
- Piastri (8.1/10)
- Hulkenberg (8.0/10)
- Gasly (7.8/10)
- Russel (7.7/10)
- Tsunoda (7.5/10)
- Lewis Hamilton (7.2/10)
- Alonso (6.9/10)
- Lawson (6.8/10)
- Albon (6.7/10)
- Bearman (6.6/10) (could be Higher if he did more races)
- Colapinto (6.55/10)
- Ocon (6.5/10)
- Magnussen (6.4/10
- Lawrence Stroll (6.1/10)
- Bottas (6.0/10)
- Riccardo (5.95/10)
- Zhou (5.9/10
- Perez (2.8/10)
- Sargeant (1.8/10)
- Doohan (i cant rate him at all)
He's quite good at picking up a team. Or lucky. But once he left, the team he had left fall of the cliff too๐
So Alonso is bad at picking teams but Carlos is good ? ๐
Probably! Once Alonso left, the team he left will rise๐คฃ
But AM need both their drivers to leave if that the case๐คญ
If Ferrari flop next year, I'd put the blame on Sainz's curse!
If Ferrari flop next year, they'll have themselves to blame.
They'll have the most successful F1 driver alongside their golden boy.
Planet F1 published an article ๐คช๐ฅด
In the article, Kees can de Grint states the fact that RB needs to pay out 2 seasons from his contract
And the article also states that Perez doesnโt want to leave
Does he really earn 37,5m per season?
Regardless Perez is deluded. I would had retired in shame if I was him. But suppose F1 drivers don't get where they are with my mindset.
Thatโs absurd though - he has a 1 year contract and surely he doesnโt get 37.5 per year. And on top of that I would highly doubt Red Bull didnโt include performance based clause - the difference in points between him and Max is more than all 9 teams combined f.s
world champions williams
I met the husband of the cousin of the granddaughter of bruce mclaren today
is lawson driving for RB in 2025?
Oh yeah, forget the senna era. Sorry
Pretty sure
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guys i found alpine at the start of the season irl
Watch replays/highlights ๐
That's a good idea tbh. Think I did that between seasons before this one
Even before and after senna they won titles mate
Just saw that Checo in 23 and 24 has just as many points as Max in 24 ๐
285+152 ๐
Crazy
I did last winter break. Watched all highlights from 2016-ish, I think? But it just not my thing to repeat what I had watch
I might as well do that since I had a very long break where I stopped watching f1
Basically the whole RB-Merc era
So roughly 2010-2018
That includes the sponsorship he must've brought. While Perez' payout will be lower. Red Bull will lose much more from sponsors walking away.
That I would understand but the article suggested that this is what RB would have to pay ๐ and there is no way Checo is walking out with 75m in his pocket out if this ๐
2010 is a must watch season for any fan old or new. Unbelievable
I personally would like to rewatch the year Massa won the WDC (2008)
2012 was a great title fight between Seb and Fernando, but 2010 was so competitive between 5 drivers.
Thinking about it, next season could be like 2010 but with another team. Perez being Massa and getting half the points of his teammate (again) ๐
Perez being in 2025 would already be big news ๐
His yearly salary is around 12m... Probably not accurate. But that's like asking 6 years worth of salary for being bad at the job...
And deluded
He's pretty much asking those Kitkat money from rbr ๐