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wide spruce
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and dont forget that random part of the szn when he turns into the best driver on the gird

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max could never

heady sonnet
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First he will need to get out of Q1

wide spruce
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hes giving himself a challenge

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his race pace is beautiful

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truly great

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and thats why last year in a very tough brazil qualifying he got p3 in the 5thfastest car

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i rest my case.

gritty dew
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Why Alpine, Jorge 😳🤨🤔🤔? Sure they'll be better than Mercedes, or is there anything else? 🤔 both Alpine and Sauber/Audi options I think it will definitely (?) be worse for at least 2025 season, and I'm not sure if he would be interesting to lose/spend next season on a midfielder bakhalf of the grid car . \ in my opinion... 😕😕 he's already had enough of that at McLaren a few years ago, I think... and I don't feel he would be liking to sit another year in a car with a lower potential than a Mercedes... 😕😕

uneven marten
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Ain't no way Carlos is going to Alpine, not after seeing their car this year

frozen fjord
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as a die hard ferrari fan i’m so mad they’re letting him go and i started watching in the vettel days so i hate hamilton

crude kiln
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It can't be "unlucky" the amount of times he's messed up over the years. His podiums on the other hand have been very lucky.

digital tendon
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Alpine will be out of racers in 2029 for sûre

wide spruce
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race*

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if he qualifies 1st he’ll find the race boring

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he likes exicement

gaunt sapphire
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Who do we think is going to RB 👀

wide spruce
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might promote him

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i mean wow look at hows hes doing now

gaunt sapphire
crude kiln
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I think they choose to be boring and extend Perez again. Sainz will head to Merc.

heady sonnet
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Yuki over Checo? Nah. Checo seems to have accepted his role and with the weight off it’s ok now

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Yuki will trash the car too often 😂😂😂

crude kiln
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Yeah Yuki's mentality will and should hold him back. Especially from a top team where he wouldn't be the top dog.

heady sonnet
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Wouldn’t he be perfect in Aston instead of daddy’s boy?

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With Honda coming also

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I wonder when stroll will finally give up and go do something he actually enjoys

wide spruce
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hes not “daddys boy”

heady sonnet
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😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Sure

wide spruce
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hes better then at,east 10 drivers this year

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and thats not even his best

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wait until shanhai

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newcastle thrashed totthenham 4-0

heady sonnet
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Better in ? Crashing ? Making mistakes ?

wide spruce
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has he crashed this year?

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other then jeddah

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thats a tough corner

heady sonnet
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Was not tough for someone that raced in f2 the previous day

wide spruce
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good point

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but

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he was driving in a ferrari

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which is much easier to drive

heady sonnet
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Alonso is also competing with Ferrari in the same car 😂

dreamy burrow
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😬

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You know sometimes I forget stroll even exists

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this is what dementia does to a bloke

heady sonnet
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What has he ever done in all these years so far that makes you go “wow” ?

clear junco
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Hey

wide spruce
wide spruce
heady sonnet
grave lotus
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Alonso goat

pliant fossil
wide spruce
heady sonnet
# wide spruce everywhere, bc its true

So you are telling me that somehow someone joining a team a few years after the first guy - in this case Alonso - has the car suited more to him than the guy that is the son of the boss and has been in that same team for years ? 😂 you’d think that even once the car might “suit” him no?

ancient parcel
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Hello

wide spruce
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and this weeks hes getting pole he told me

heady sonnet
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Yeah. And I’m Lindsay Lohan

pseudo moth
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hi

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im new

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#lewishamiliton for life

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hellllllooooo

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anyone theřē

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hi

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it is kinda like a mini race to decide where the drivers start just to change it up

pliant fossil
wide spruce
inner raft
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Hi everybody

heady sonnet
wide spruce
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first of making the f1 is impressive enoguh

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and currently he is top 10

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which is impressive

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he has 3 podiums

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1 pole

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even hulkenburg doesn’t even have a podium in more then double the years of stroll

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and aint nobody hating in him

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on*

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therefore now on forward no stroll slander from anyone

heady sonnet
vivid iris
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hi

heady sonnet
steel nexus
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This is a more telling statistic

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You can have 100 overtakes and nothing to show for it😉

glass garnet
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You guys realize that i’m being slightly sarcastic … right ?

terse field
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🤣😭

wide spruce
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he qualifies low so he can have a interesting race

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he can get pole whenever he wants

wide spruce
terse field
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I didn’t think defending Stroll was possible but here it is. Sir you might be Lance’s only fan besides his dad. It’s a great honor to meet someone so rare.

heady sonnet
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Stroll is at least not 100% pay driver like Mazepin. But 98% is quite close enough there. Heck, his father had to buy Aston for it lol 😂😂😂😂

wide spruce
terse field
# wide spruce respect my goat rn

The guys single handling holding back Aston Martin. He’s costing them millions of dollars in prize winnings. If his dad didn’t own the team, he would’ve been kicked out a long time ago.

wide spruce
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even if he got the same amount of points as fernando alonso last year they would only be p4

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“lots of prize money”

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ppl be disrespecting him too much

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hes better then more then half the grid

heady sonnet
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half the grid doesn’t have the 4/5th best card though

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He’s the last one when it comes to teams actually scoring. And even Yuki is close to him.

terse field
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If stroll would’ve had almost as much as Fernando like 201 pts, Aston would’ve beaten Ferrari. If Stroll was a decent driver, they would’ve beaten McLaren last year. P4 is still millions more of prize money then P5. 🤣

terse field
wide spruce
wide spruce
wide spruce
wide spruce
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also being only 1 pt behind a 7 time champion in a slower car proves he can still keep up

terse field
wide spruce
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why is no one talking abt hamilton

wide spruce
terse field
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  1. Lawson
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Just to add 1 more lol

wide spruce
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if you may give me atleast 1 reason on how the last 6 drivers u named are better then stroll i’ll admit your right

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5 of them dont even have more podiums than stroll

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including albon who was driving a red bull for 2 years

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and none of them even have pole

gritty dew
# gaunt sapphire Who do we think is going to RB 👀

Out of those three, I think Pérez. Ricciardo will have to perform much more better with the car in the rest of the season (assuming he's staying at RB) so that he gets considered by the heads of RBR to think of replacing Pérez. He has to do it really bad to RedBull get to that point, I think. 2026 will be interesting to see, though, I think Pérez will do good too in a new car.

terse field
gritty dew
# wide spruce i mean wow look at hows hes doing now

Maybe if he keeps this level to the end, and gives impressive performances, perhaps... who knows . )
There is another driver back waiting in the Honda line-up too, so in any case, there's lot of options there for every parts... . ))

wide spruce
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hes alr revived the sport

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i can prove hes better

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by

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nvm i cant

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it was a joke the whole time for those of u who don’t know,

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im js extremely patriotic yea, so i had to defend my boy

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but he is kinda bad

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but still when he has confidence hes good

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and his race pace is very good

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its js his quali

terse field
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Your Canadian?

wide spruce
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yea

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my pfp?

terse field
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Can’t tell unless I click on it lol

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But I’m American and I don’t like Logan. I can’t defend that dude anymore lol 😂

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I want him gone so bad 🤣

gritty dew
# terse field 🤣😭

First time I see Discord's notifications 🔔 🙂🙂 interesting to see that it gives a resume of what is being talking about 👍🏻👍🏻

terse field
wide spruce
gritty dew
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😁 ya, I saw it 😊😊 I don't have it activated myself . ))

terse field
wide spruce
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i can’t tell if that was sarcastic or not

gritty dew
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Seeing this discussion about Stroll, it reminds me a bit of Kimi (whom I followed quite closely) or Jenson (similar case) being debated how 'good' they were while there were still driving at F1...
To be honest, I don't know that much about Stroll myself, since I was more interested in following Kimi's carreer, alongside Alonso's one, for instance...

In any case, within the list Eric has put, maybe -at least judging from the little I've seen from him- I will put him between Bottas and the rest of the drivers, to p15, all in the same mix. 🤔🤔 Would be quite interesting to see any of those 15 drivers in the current AM car, to see how they can perform and cope with it.

Must say that regards all-roundness, Alonso is extremely very talented, so directly comparing to him is not that conclusive, unfortunately... I personally would pick Pérez, Nico, or Albon, to see how they can perform with today's AM... Could be very interesting... . ) 👍🏻👍🏻🤔🤔

terse field
# gritty dew Seeing this discussion about Stroll, it reminds me a bit of Kimi (whom I followe...

This is last years standings. Look how far apart Stroll is from his teammate compared to the rest of the top 4 teams. Piastri is understandable to be lower because he was a rookie but the Aston Martin was clear 2nd strongest first half of the season and Stroll couldn’t even get podium. Stroll is just not at par with Alonso. Do we expect him to beat him? No but to at least compete, yes and he’s not. Somebody else’s deserves the AM seat and the reality is if his dad didn’t own the team, Stroll would’ve been gone as he cost them P4 and possibly beating Ferrari last season.

vast sand
terse field
vast sand
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Liam Lawson would be pushing Q3 most weekends in the VCARB

terse field
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Exactly

pseudo moth
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hello🍾

bronze pecan
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내가 지금 운전 중이라

jaunty cave
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Yes

upper moat
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Sebastian Vettel joins Le Mans incredible and I They have it test on the porch

kind reef
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206 + 206 is more than 206 + 200

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Actually they would be P2 in constructors if stroll had same points as alonso

glass garnet
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And I guess that’s why he’s the Minister of Defense !!!

copper star
terse field
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I did not expect Logan so high up with Checo lol

heady sonnet
terse field
gritty dew
glass garnet
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Sad to hear that Danny Ric blames a chassis for his poor performance since the start of the year… but what if he’s right ? 🤔

heady sonnet
gritty dew
mystic aurora
pure hare
crude kiln
dreamy burrow
upper moat
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Ok but what happened because I didn't see the Chinese GP

terse field
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Because it’s this week

gritty dew
# dreamy burrow

Saw that (& similar) memes too last week 😆😆 I laughed at the one saying he was seen 🛬 at the Shanghai airport... 😁🤪

upper moat
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Hello, I'm chocolatey, but I changed my name

hoary ice
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I'm new here

sand scarab
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E

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I want redbull role as my main but it shows alphatauri first 😭😭

upper moat
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Can Ganyu show off in the race or not?

jaunty cave
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Show

dreamy burrow
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Thursday

dreamy burrow
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Ferrari toe to toe with Red Bull

jaunty cave
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Yes of course

wide spruce
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why are my msgs getting deleted smh

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all i did was post a stroll emoji

vagrant nymph
vagrant nymph
wide spruce
heady sonnet
wide spruce
wind dirge
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hii

rocky jetty
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Hello everyone

solid grove
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Yooo

fathom root
glass garnet
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Poor Carlos … even if it’s a BIG $$$ contract … I wouldn’t go to a 5 seconds pit stop average team 🫠

glass garnet
short ocean
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Audi doesn’t just come to Formula 1, Audi comes to win

glass garnet
short ocean
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they will be competitive we will be amazed

glass garnet
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Alpine also said they were coming in F1 to win 😂🤣😂

short ocean
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alpine is a big disappointment.. even sad is that

fathom root
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It will be a while until Audi becomes competitive, its Formula 1 not street racing 🤣

short ocean
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let's wait and see... I think that Audi has enough money etc.. with Sainz a top driver

terse field
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Brawn racing be like

gritty dew
# glass garnet

Even though there may be some true fact in that statement (Red Bull not being able to offer what they do, for instance) I like how this man speaks publicly 🤣🙈🤦🏻‍♂️ he always has some juicy statement for the media to publish about... What this time, an excuse to why they don't hire Sainz back, and a dig on him for being eager, and money hungry? 😓😓 anyway...😒😒😒

What a difference to Lauda, to say an example...

terse field
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For Marko to publicly say they can’t afford Carlos and can’t match Audi offer is just him blatantly saying he doesn’t want him nor Max to be challenged. Nobody even knew Audi offered him a large contract so this is all new for us.

gritty dew
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Yup. Absolutely.

gritty dew
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In any case, I think it will be almost to impossible to see a top team having again a two top drivers line-up (and both in a very similar age range) despite that already was a very rare & unique choice in the past decades...

kind reef
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I still believe sainz merc is the most likely

gritty dew
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I do too.

thin iris
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Ggoooo ferrari

heady sonnet
heady sonnet
steel nexus
heady sonnet
# steel nexus Yeah I don’t think Merc would want only a 1 year deal.

Merc has the perfect opportunity to give Antonelli a chance. Realistically they won’t compete before regulation changes and that one year in the seat would be invaluable for him with little to no expectations. If he’s as good as everyone says he is - that is the way to go for them next year

feral tendon
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shouldn't he at least fight for the podium in F2 now then?

heady sonnet
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He should

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He’s the next Max after all 😂

gritty dew
# heady sonnet Audi has been the top contender for his signature for a long long long time. Eve...

The interest was indeed there, but for me it only made sense from 2026 on, not before (?) which I think is the part that perhaps is referring to Marko, and perhaps they've may already pushed/purposed for a deal. A way to somehow arrange Sainz' mid 2025 season, now that he won't be staying at Ferrari until the entrance of the new regulation set... I guess he never thought of a similar situation (?) to actually happen... (losing his Ferrari seat for 2025?)

gritty dew
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Maybe a season at Stake Audi, is better than a season being sabbatical...

glass garnet
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He will NOT be on a sabbatical … I just can’t see that happening

sturdy moss
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Stroll P1, Nando P19

gritty dew
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Wow!! Haas & Aston!! Let's see if any works Mercedes can make it to Q3? 🤔🤔 perhaps not this time...

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And, the fire lighting on the grass is a 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨🙄🙄 grass too dry, but, well, that's going to be a yellow flag come race time, or are they going to do smthg about it 😳😳🤯😵?🫥🫥 (Or just bits of incandescent track/car debris igniting the grass (wood chips from the bottom planck)? Unless they get into a totally wet race, that grass alongside the circuit may bring trouble... )

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The rain comes into play, Sauber did well this time and set the right times and they're both to Q3 😮

Hamilton & Alonso both to Q3 too. Haas this time both out. As well as Russell and Stroll.

prisma oxide
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Serwer stoi

winter ledge
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Chaos! 😂

crude kiln
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Norris again making mistakes when he has a car to Q front row. Happens way too often.

winter ledge
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Norris back to top!

short ocean
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yeah p1 for norris

crude kiln
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What? He got another lap in after I had turned it off?😂

winter ledge
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They reinstate his laptime

kind reef
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Thats why norris had so good wet stat last season

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Lets go lando

short ocean
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no they give the lap back

crude kiln
blissful finch
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Well, at least the Chinese being lazy with their weird paint, is entertaining

gritty dew
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No matter how the weather will be during the weekend, they really should do that work of mowing rightly the hole lawn alongside the circuit 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

gritty dew
dreamy burrow
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What could've caused the fire today

gritty dew
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Do not exactly know, but my guess is that if that grass would have kept well trimmed & short to the ground, with more open air on top of it - and not that bush, that would have been less likely to burn up, in my opinion, no matter what exactly did started that fire... 😕😕😕

crude kiln
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Anyone know the weather for Sat & Sun? Hoping for dry so we might get many overtakes!

round thicket
dreamy burrow
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This week will be exciting if it keeps raining in Shanghai

glass garnet
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Shouldn’t be rain for either days…

crude kiln
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@glass garnet Great! Rain just causes issues in races nowadays with red flags and few overtakes when they get to race in it and not sit in the pitlane waiting for it to dry up.

gritty dew
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Yup 🫤 good point there 👆🏻🫤 perhaps on a semi-wet or an inter tyre trim race could be a bit more interesting, perhaps...? 🤔🤔 If it runs in completely dry conditions, mm, how long will the top 3 last in those positions through the race maybe an interesting point, but... 🙄🙄

rose topaz
buoyant eagle
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glass garnet
rose topaz
uncut bronze
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Right what is going on with red bull. McLaren is doing shockingly well and Mercedes is coming back?

compact pebble
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Damn

dreamy burrow
kind reef
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Tryhard F1 fantasy discord has been keeping eye very much on the weather reports and general believe there is we will have dry for rest of the race week

rose topaz
kind reef
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around 1-4% rain chance for sprint and qualifying, 20% chance for race

digital tendon
uncut bronze
glass garnet
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Could this really mean what we think it means ? 🤔

wide spruce
uncut bronze
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Omg how do I get rid of Ferrari as my role I don’t want it no more ☹️

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I wanna be orange ☹️

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Like a chav

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DID IT

dreamy burrow
fallow gull
crude kiln
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"And through goes Sergis Perilton!"

sturdy moss
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Are we going to get another Perez lap deleted special

west canopy
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Here goes Hamilton out in Q1

sturdy moss
west canopy
sturdy moss
west canopy
sturdy moss
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Oof Sainz fail now too

winter ledge
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Madness 😆

solid nexus
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Guysss…..Who’s gonna win in the CGP tomorrow? Any guesses

sturdy moss
crude kiln
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Surprisingly boring sprint. Starting to think these regulations aren't good for the races when we see this few overtakes on tracks like China.

wide spruce
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Aston Martin have lodged a complaint with the stewards since the incident as Carlos got going again after a Red Flag

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if it is approved

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stroll starts p10

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we love to see it

stray hamlet
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hi guys i have just joined and not to sure what to say but just thought i would say hello 😂

kind reef
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Ive heard sainz may start from P15

wide spruce
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yea

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bc he stopped on the track and therefore it says he can’t continue

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i think thats why

terse field
crude kiln
kind reef
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Was hard to warm those tires up is my guess why it took sometime for action to start

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Good sign for actual race where we have more laps

terse field
crude kiln
terse field
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Plus remember it’s a sprint and tires were cold and they were on mediums so you shouldn’t expect action after lap 1

crude kiln
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Seen many better sprints in prior seasons with non-stop action. That was the thing of sprint races. They went all in and wasn't just a train 90%.

terse field
dapper wagon
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It might not have been the best sprint race but it was still better than any practice session. The battle was fantastic.

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The cars are too heavy, too long, too wide, too sensitive to wind and temperature. The cars are definitely getting closer on single lap pace but in a race not soo much. Just for it all to change soon anyway and create the same issues all over again 😂

crude kiln
dapper wagon
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It’s comical seeing the new cars next to older ones. They’re ginormous. Im no expect but it’s definitely harder to race wheel to wheel in heavy, wide, long, sensitive cars.

wide spruce
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did qnyz retire i dont see him talking anymore

oak swan
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Hello

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I am actually new here

wide spruce
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ok

heady sonnet
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New season starts next year 14-16 March with the Australian race

sacred garden
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lol I was talking about the game, not real life

crude kiln
sacred garden
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Oh yeah, didn't realise.

fathom root
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The bot should be disabled in this thread 😂

solid nexus
formal root
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Bonjour

mystic aurora
fathom island
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Verstappen passed by Perez into T1

opaque crest
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Are any of the races actually worth watching anymore? I think the last one I watched was Saudi. These new regs haven't made things anymore interesting.

mystic aurora
heady sonnet
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Didn’t watch for 8 laps - max already 8 sec ahead lol

random schooner
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max gonna win this easily

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hamilton is so cooked

sturdy moss
heady sonnet
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I saw that but it’s still quite a bit

opaque crest
sturdy moss
opaque crest
random schooner
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LOL

fiery lance
wide spruce
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race is veru interesting now

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the sc changes everything

heady sonnet
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Everything ? 😂 how since all of them basically got a free pit stop

wide spruce
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true

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but theybare all on dif compounds

opaque crest
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It changes nothing 😂. Max will speed away and there'll be a very brief battle for 2nd before they all spread out again

heady sonnet
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Top guys are on hard I believe

heady sonnet
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Right as he does that often 😂

opaque crest
wide spruce
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it can still happen

heady sonnet
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Only thing that can stop him currently is a technical failure

wide spruce
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or that

heady sonnet
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Max is just toying with the rest of the grid

wide spruce
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WHAT HAPPENED TO STORLL

heady sonnet
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Stroll rofl

wide spruce
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WHY IS HE PITTING

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RB SPUN AROUND

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I WOKE UP AT 3AM TO WATCH MY GOAT NOT FINISH THIS RACE

heady sonnet
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Your goat just smashed into Ric

wide spruce
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BRAKE CHECK

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U SEE HIS RADIO MSG

heady sonnet
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Yeah right

sturdy moss
heady sonnet
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You saw the onboard

wide spruce
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look what dnaiel was doing

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he was touching piastri

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crofty js said he had no chance of avoiding that

heady sonnet
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You are really going to blame it on Ric ? 😂

wide spruce
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yes

heady sonnet
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Stroll has often showed lack of spatial awareness

wide spruce
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how is that strolls fault

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OH ATOELL IS STILL IN

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HE IS LAPPED BUT HES SITLL IN

heady sonnet
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When you slam into someone from behind - you are always at fault

sturdy moss
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Because he drove into the back of ric

opaque crest
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Blame it on Alonso if anyone other than Stroll. He locked up and caused everyone else to have to brake harder than what they should have done

wide spruce
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truee

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he bunched eveyrone up

wide spruce
wide spruce
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so even if they brake check u?

heady sonnet
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What brake check lol 😂 are we watching the same race ?

wide spruce
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even my goat stroll said it was a brake checo

sturdy moss
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So Alonso caused every to have to react and brake hard...stroll didn't react

wide spruce
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check

heady sonnet
wide spruce
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alr

heady sonnet
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What would he say ? “ I was too slow to react and it’s my bad?”

wide spruce
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knowing him, yes

heady sonnet
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

random schooner
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stroll penaltyyy

heady sonnet
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Yeah because he was innocent 😂

opaque crest
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It's so sad that the best racing is for last place 😂

wide spruce
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im going back to bed smh

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in miami he’ll get a podium

terse field
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Last place action was something lol

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Apparently Stroll thinks it’s a joke for smashing into another driver lol

heady sonnet
terse field
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If Max’s car breaks down, I’m confident Lando will find a way to bottle it

sick bridge
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Hey guys can someone give me a quick rundown of what's happened so far? I'm on holiday nd can't watch the race

heady sonnet
sick bridge
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Crashes with who?

heady sonnet
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Bottas engine died, caused a SC

sick bridge
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Righhtt

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And tsunoda?

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Why dnf?

heady sonnet
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Then stroll did a Bottas and torpedoed Ric. Hulk took Yuki out on the restart

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Caused another sc

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And after that it’s cruising for max so far

sick bridge
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Ouchhh

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Right okay thanks sm!

heady sonnet
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And I have no idea why but Piastri has damage

terse field
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Yeah but it was Ric’s fault for braking so hard cuz Stroll was totally innocent lol

sick bridge
heady sonnet
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Off topic - what’s the record for grand slams/hattricks in a season? Max seems to be going for it

sick bridge
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And how's lando doing??

terse field
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How the heck Alonso still in 5th 🫠

terse field
sick bridge
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Great

terse field
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Yeah he’s doing good. Will see how well Perez races to catch up to Lando. Perez should catch up and we can have a battle for P2 in the last few laps

sick bridge
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Good 🙏🙏

terse field
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Sainz is struggling

sick bridge
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Omgs nooo

terse field
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They didn’t pit him and he’s on the hard tires from his first pit stop

sick bridge
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Ughh

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At least leclerc isn't doing that bad

terse field
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What a recovery drive from Lewis. From 19th to 8th now

sick bridge
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Ooo nice nice

terse field
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Ugh idk if Perez will catch up and pass Lando. Lando is doing really well

sick bridge
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Good omg, he deserves podium

terse field
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Yeah for sure

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If Alonso passes hulk, we could have a Alonso and Hamilton battle lol

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And he passed

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Hamiltons in trouble. Alonso is hot

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What a save lol

heady sonnet
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How he managed that lol

terse field
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And still passed lol

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You know Russel is doing well when you don’t hear anything about him lol

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Sargeant and Stroll in the back seems very fitting lol

sick bridge
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But he's still doing so well

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Acc I'm quite happy w how it's going

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But I'm mad abt yuki

terse field
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Come on max, dnf, make the racing exciting lol

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Max is definitely trying to get fastest lap on the last lap lol

heady sonnet
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Lando was impressive. Or Checo just didn’t care enough 😂

terse field
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Naw Lando was putting fast times actually. I’ll give it to Lando

rough urchin
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Man the sport is boring nowadays

sweet mist
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Hey saludos desde Manzanillo Colima Mexico

rough urchin
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Great job lando

terse field
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Can’t blame Max when he drives perfect races 🤷🏽‍♂️

sick bridge
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Woaaa what happened to ricciardo??

rough urchin
rough urchin
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Aka stroll

sick bridge
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LMAOO

terse field
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Lando forgot what it’s like being on the podium lol

sweet mist
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Nos vemos ya me voy a dormir por si tienen pendiente, bye

terse field
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Zhou finished 3rd lol

heady sonnet
terse field
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Damn even have Sergio ahead of Max lol

sick bridge
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Oh not quite

terse field
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It was Toto

rough urchin
dapper wagon
terse field
rough urchin
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Ferrari making a champions team next year

heady sonnet
rough urchin
terse field
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Go check lol

heady sonnet
terse field
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Still up there 😂

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Yet Sam can’t find a way to ruin Max’s race pft

rough urchin
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Du du du du max verstappen

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Newey is going to Ferrari right?

dapper wagon
random schooner
rough urchin
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Because I still see he him red bull

jaunty cave
#

guys i have a question
like how many races are there in china , like how is hamilton on the podium and stuff i dont understand was that just qualifying or was it the real race ? and who won the race and how is hamilton on the podium ?

crude kiln
jaunty cave
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and yesterday what was his placement ?

crude kiln
jaunty cave
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damn thats amazing

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lewis will always be the best driver of all history in F1 (imo)

crude kiln
#

In other news I just saw they are thinking of a new points system that sounds good to me.

It's the same points as now for top 7. Then 8th gets 5p, 9th gets 4p, 10th gets 3p, 11th gets 2p and 12th gets 1p.

jaunty cave
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i will never forget the 2021 race

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lewis hamilton's 8th world chamionship was stolem that day

heady sonnet
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7th*. Massa has one

heady sonnet
crude kiln
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Yeah Massa was even more robbed which makes it ironic about people complaining about 2021.

And Lewis has never proved himself in a worse team. He has always driven for top teams. That's why I don't think anyone can say he's the best of all time. One of the best, sure. But that includes at least 5 other drivers where I think most would consider at least Senna and Schumacher above.

jaunty cave
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naaah where is vettel and alonso and niki ?

crude kiln
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Vettel is overrated imo. I wouldn't consider him among the best of all time. Depends how many get on that list tho 😅 If there are like 50 then sure.

crude kiln
rich shale
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Senna and Schumacher would deliberately take out another driver to win a WC.

jaunty cave
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nah lewis with the mercedes goes hard af

dapper wagon
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Touching on what Qnyx said - 12 is a very odd number when you have 20 drivers.

heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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give him a good car and look at him destroying max

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we've seen him dominate for seasons we know damn well he's more than capable of winning another wc with a good car

heady sonnet
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He had a good car in 2021. We saw how that ended 😉

jaunty cave
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it was the safety car

heady sonnet
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You can blame Merc for not changing his tyres there

jaunty cave
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and it would have cost them the championship

heady sonnet
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People still bitter about 2011 🤷🏻‍♂️😃🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Let it go already

jaunty cave
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nuh uh

heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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id accept the massa

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but not the max

dapper wagon
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What about Baku 21? What happened to Lewis? He threw the title away

jaunty cave
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max stole it it wasnt fair play

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and what about brazil 2021 ? forget about that ?

heady sonnet
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Silverstone 21? And Toto’s comments just before that ?

crude kiln
jaunty cave
dapper wagon
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You can pick multiple races in the 21 season and both drivers and team threw the title away. ABU was just one of those races but because it was the last race it’s somehow different

jaunty cave
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he would have won if the safety car wasnt there

crude kiln
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@heady sonnet My feeling is that he's trolling. Must be 😅

dapper wagon
heady sonnet
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Taking away from one of the closest and most exciting seasons we have had is just silly especially through a one sided bias

jaunty cave
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until the last race which was the tie breaker

dapper wagon
heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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like literally any time someone overtakes him he gets angry and does anything to take his position back

dapper wagon
heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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give both max and lewis a good car

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we both know lewis would win

heady sonnet
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😂 aha

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Was it just the car then all these years ? 😉

jaunty cave
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no its the skill

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but you cant just do skill without a good car

dapper wagon
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So how come Russell has a win and Hamilton doesn’t in the current regs?

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Russell is the GOAT?

jaunty cave
heady sonnet
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So he’s skilled but without a good car you can’t do well unless you out-perform the car 😂

jaunty cave
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nothing makes me happier than max getting dnf

crude kiln
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Stop feeding the troll.

dapper wagon
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Nothing makes Max happier than winning in 21 I bet 😝

jaunty cave
dapper wagon
crude kiln
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That's what a troll would say!🤭

heady sonnet
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The (s)troll 😂

jaunty cave
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lmao

dapper wagon
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I love the 21 debates. Because it’s kinda pointless. It’s happened. It’s done. It’s history

crude kiln
#

Saw a great Twitter comment regarding the best of all time to someone who said Vettel > Max. "Vettel was beat in his prime by Ricciardo and Leclerc. But the biggest crime was that he made Stroll look like a decent driver" 😂

jaunty cave
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guys is it forbidden to swear ?

dapper wagon
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There wasn’t this much uproar when Senna wiped out Prost for a title. Or Schumacher on Hill. It’s only because it’s Netflix

dapper wagon
jaunty cave
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cus i said the lance stroll song and got a warning

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yk the "lance would you like to go for a stroll?"

heady sonnet
dapper wagon
jaunty cave
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damn i cant sing the lancey strolly anthem :/

dapper wagon
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Vettel back in 2011-2013 had the best car and was in his prime. He was great, but the car was just phenomenal

jaunty cave
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i wonder how ferrari will go for lewis

heady sonnet
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He will flop there also 😂

dapper wagon
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Sometimes drivers suit a car/tyres/regulations perfectly. That was Vettel back then.

jaunty cave
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and i think ferrari fired the wrong driver we've seen how smoooooooooooooooooth carlos is

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hes a smoooooooooooth operator

heady sonnet
crude kiln
jaunty cave
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btw is it true that vettel might return to F1 ?

dapper wagon
jaunty cave
dapper wagon
dapper wagon
jaunty cave
dapper wagon
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Why isn’t Perez dominating?

crude kiln
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Troll troll troll.

heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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get lance stroll off the track 🗣️

dapper wagon
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Why did Albon, Gasly, Kvyat all get fired from Redbull? Why couldn’t they get within 0.5 of max? Same cars, yet weren’t even close. It’s ok to admit Max is extremely talented. Likewise so is Lewis.

jaunty cave
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ok he is talented

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but not as much as lewis

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if we gave them both the same car , both in their prime and best form , lewis would win

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lewis is just the best and every one ( including the drivers ) agrees on it

dapper wagon
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Not sure max is in his prime yet tbh.

heady sonnet
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Everyone but Rosberg 😉

jaunty cave
heady sonnet
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So if Nico beat Lewis in the same car in his prime - does that make Nico better 🤷🏻‍♂️

jaunty cave
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also saying max is not in his prime is like saying lace is a good driver

dapper wagon
#

And Rosberg beat Schumacher as teammates. So Rosberg is the undisputed GOAT

jaunty cave
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naaaaah kimi is the goat

dapper wagon
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Maldonado is. He won in a Williams

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and he beat Senna 😉

heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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yeah its totally beat=better

heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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THROUGH GOES HAMILTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

heady sonnet
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“Ham will beat max in the same car cause he’s better” 😂

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To 9 😂

jaunty cave
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i blame the car not lewis

heady sonnet
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Obviously he does as well

jaunty cave
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fr max fans

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and im not even trolling im just saying my opinion

heady sonnet
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That’s why he is bailing 😂 “it’s my family blah blah” “oh sorry, Ferrari has been my dream”

jaunty cave
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well he's leaving mercedes because they can't give him a winning car

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what other options does he have redbull ? 💀

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/sarcasm

heady sonnet
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What happened to the “I believe in the team” “it’s my family” etc? That was what - 5 months ago? 😂

heady sonnet
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And yes, reports said he did approach RB and they told him no 😂

jaunty cave
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no way

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fake news

heady sonnet
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Mark Hughes generally doesn’t go in such direction 😉

jaunty cave
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lallalallalalalalaal i believe what im programmed to believe i am but a robot that is grinded into cycle

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lewis is the best imo

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raaaaaaah

rose topaz
dapper wagon
#

Ricciardo has a 3 place grid penalty for Miami.

terse field
#

We still arguing about AD21? Lol

heady sonnet
#

Championship without Max. Pretty close in the drivers part! RBRacing can't keep up with just one car though 😦

rose topaz
rose topaz
wide spruce
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So you're telling me that Sainz has left a big gap to the car in front of him, so he accelerates quickly, miscalculates the gap, slams the brakes and almost completely stops, causing Alonso to almost crash into him, causing a chain reaction, and Stroll ends up being to blame and gets penalised because he can't react in time? To the people saying he looked at the apex or didn’t pay attention, do you know that drivers look at the apex when cornering? Try and watch through all the drivers onboard at this time and most of them are looking at the apex at the same position Stroll does. Found this on twitter and I think hes completely right

heady sonnet
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56:28 in the f1 pro stream, from Stroll perspective

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Didn’t even attempt to turn it was straight torpedo mode on

wide spruce
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so for stroll is was an brake check

heady sonnet
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He accelerated when others were slowing down

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That’s not a brake check by the guy in front. Not to mention he had room on his right

wide spruce
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daniel ric also hit the car infront of him js not as bignas stroll

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its js that like i said stroll was carrying too much speed

heady sonnet
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If you accelerate at that point it’s not carrying it 😂 it’s pretty clear in his onboard cam

wide spruce
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wdym its nit carrying jt

heady sonnet
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I mean increasing speed when the other guys aren’t - that’s on you, not on the person in front of you. Especially if you don’t even attempt to change trajectory

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You see a wall in front of you - will you smash into it? As you were carrying speed? 😂

wide spruce
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that is why alonso went to the left

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and started the qhole chain

heady sonnet
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Basically Alonso reacted and Stroll didn’t ?

wide spruce
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sure

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maybw his brain processes a bit slower

heady sonnet
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This is what you just said 😂

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Stroll had room on the right. A lot of room

wide spruce
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he was looking at the apex though

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he didnt expect someone to js stop

heady sonnet
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Apex is on the right

wide spruce
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ik

heady sonnet
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Then … be careful 😂 you can move to the right not continue straight and increase speed

wide spruce
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like i said daniel also hit the car in frint but since he was going slower it didnt do damage, stroll was going faster because he had a bigger gap so daniel didnt react eithier

wide spruce
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which is a bit odd tbh

terse field
#

Hold up, you defending Stroll? Bahahaha Stroll 100% at fault. It was a rookie mistake but definitely his fault

wide spruce
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not this guy again

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u js a stroll hater

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js blame eveyrthing on stroll

terse field
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And your a stroll defender no matter the outcome

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You defend stroll in everything

wide spruce
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that is correct

terse field
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Exactly. I don’t hate stroll, not my fault he has to keep sucking

wide spruce
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whos ur fav driver

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Lance Stroll said that he crashed because drivers ahead suddenly braked.

Piastri's response: "Yes, but everyone else didn't crash into each other."

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ok piastri buddy

heady sonnet
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Oscar is right

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If 5 guys managed to react and one didn’t- guess who’s at fault 😂

wide spruce
#

hm

dapper wagon
terse field
heady sonnet
glass garnet
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I once was a defender of Stroll… just saw the race and I’ve had enough (just like Danny Ricciardo in the post race comments)

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I know everyone have said it for quite some time now, but I think he’s gotta go …

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If the rumours of Aston Martin wanting him to ease into the Supercar program is true… that would be the best news … for him and everyone else on the grid

toxic wing
#

what you guys are thinking about new F1 points thing?

glass garnet
toxic wing
dapper wagon
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They could easily be ahead of Mercedes this year.

glass garnet
dapper wagon
#

In terms of the points proposal. I think my math is ok (been drinking most of the day) but not too much has changed but it’s enough to make it more interesting I guess?

terse field
dapper wagon
terse field
heady sonnet
dapper wagon
sharp jacinth
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👀👀👀

quaint swallow
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What do y'all think of my new set

wild portal
#

Amazing I was debating wether to get it or not

empty lava
# quaint swallow

How are you displaying yours? Im trying to find somewhere to put mine lol

gritty dew
# wide spruce Lance Stroll said that he crashed because drivers ahead suddenly braked. Piastr...

I don't know how many 'unforced errors'? he's already had, but not being able to rightly follow the car in front is one. Just watched the race summary a moment ago, and got this screenshot.
Alonso, and the rest of the all 4 drivers managed to get away from that moment without any trouble, it was just a normal thing to happen in a Safety Car slowed running. From the 5 drivers in a row, Lance had the most time to react, and even had more distance between him and the one in front, Ricciardo. The other 4 were much more close to each other, and they still made it! without any issue. 😳😳

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There, the next moment when Alonso had to lock up the brakes after Sainz. Russell made it, Piastri made it, Ricciardo made it, but Stroll, not. They were not even racing (as in Australia's Russell case...).

gritty dew
#

Ofc. The light was red, Mr. Commentator!!! 😒😒😒😒

gritty dew
glass garnet
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My thought about Stroll trying to defend his mistake by mentioning the « Concertina effect »

gritty dew
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🤣

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Right on the point, Baku 😓😓😞😞

hollow marsh
wide spruce
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lets all b completely honest, im not tryna start a arguement with these eric dude or this team xeroxodxx dude or qnyx, but lance stroll is the most hated driver, i dont yall to write full paragraphs or anything but he also doesnt deserve this much hate

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or this psywar dude thats typing

hollow ridge
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stroll deserves the hate because he is a nepo baby in year 7 on a top midfield team, not a williams rookie

fathom root
#

No one is hating against lance stroll but simply pointing out his mistake in the last race, also reading the previous chat messages neither of them are getting in an argument but simply discussing the fact. Looks like you're trying to get some attention by calling out people, this thread is for f1 discussion, constructive criticism is always welcomed, writing senseless messages isnt

gritty dew
# wide spruce lets all b completely honest, im not tryna start a arguement with these eric dud...

Stroll the most hated driver? Wow. I'm just being disappointed, Barca. Not hating anyone at all 🤦🏻‍♂️😮‍💨😮‍💨
Do you really think he did nothing wrong in that safety car shunt? At least I expected him to own his mistake. George Russell at least did it with his official statement. Or do you really think, for instance, that Alonso was in fault of Russell's error in the Australian GP 😳? Or now too, for Stroll crashing into Ricciardo?

Those car/drivers maneuvers are a normal thing in racing. Unless they start now to regulate against it (?) which I don't discard at all.... 🤦🏻‍♂️
Where's the driver's minimal standard going to be set at?
Don't get me wrong. I'm just being honest. No hate feeling at all to Stroll.

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Thanks @fathom root for providing some thoughtful support & help too, to bring some light into the topic of discussion 🙏🏻🙏🏻🤗🤗

wide spruce
gritty dew
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Yeah. I agree with that.

wide spruce
wide spruce
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like i said fam i would say a lot but i cant

wide spruce
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😂

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nah this man is different

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and i said im not tryna start an argument

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🤦‍♂️

gritty dew
# wide spruce i never said just this race? in general, hes a lot better then sargeant for exam...

But the thing is, being at the position where he is, I think you have to expect to get that criticism if you don't perform as expected . \ Sargeant is not yet (?) at that point since the Williams' car itself is not even being able to perform with Albon.
Same criticism that Ricciardo is still receiving, for being at that RB seat, for example.

I personally don't expect - nor even try to pretend for Stroll to perform exceptionally well (maybe, though that's just wishful thingking from my side .\ ) but I least I expect him, as said previously to the GP, to do a consistent and solid job. This is, at least drive it error-less (or the most error less possible) and whenever made one, take the responsibility for it. I think that's fair to ask for him, and, in my opinion, wouldn't have received that harsh response from the public in this case.

terse field
# wide spruce lets all b completely honest, im not tryna start a arguement with these eric dud...

Maybe just maybe, he shouldn’t ram his car into the back of another driver when he had so much space yet everyone in the same situation, avoided a collision yet Lance was the only one not paying attention. Also how often does Lance do something like this? Yeah he gets no breaks. Maybe he should leave to a lower class team since he clearly doesn’t deserve that seat. If his dad wasn’t the owner, he would’ve been out of formula 1 along time ago.

fathom root
icy coral
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Hi

crude kiln
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I don't think anyone "hates" Stroll. People are just pointing out what's been obvious since long. That he's not good enough for that seat. And if someone messes up in what is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsports it would be weird if people don't mention it.

hollow ridge
wide spruce
wide spruce
wide spruce
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if another driver makes a mistake they wont say “daddys boy” “doesnt deserve a seat” “trash” “garbage”

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they js live on

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but every time stroll does smt even if its the smallest things ppl mention it

crude kiln
wide spruce
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he won in f3 hes a capable driver he doesnt inly drive for aston martin “because his dad bought it”, he just needs his confidence back, like when he puts the senna like weekends knce every year or smt he has confidence then, he said in a podcast that he works best when hes confidence, and if theres ppl out there that criticize everything little thing he does he wont be confident, like young his career he was good bc he had confidence ppl weren’t criticizing him.

spring anvil
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I need money

mystic aurora
spring anvil
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Nuh uh I need coins

mystic aurora
wide spruce
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and to prove he gets more hate, just watch australian grand prix highlights in yt and check the comments then watch the chinese one and see how everyone is bashing stroll but not a single person is saying anything about russell crashing in australia

spring anvil
#

Ok

hollow ridge
wide spruce
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oh mb but other then that everything applies to lewis

crude kiln
# wide spruce he won in f3 hes a capable driver he doesnt inly drive for aston martin “because...

Yeah heard his dad bought him all the best mechanics and strategy people in F3 as well 😅 And it's not uncommon to do well in a lower class and not being able to translate that into F1. Happens regularly.

But come on, are you seriously saying he doesn't have that seat due to his dad? They fired Perez who was the better driver and had literally saved the team economically and kept Stroll. That wouldn't had happened if it wasn't due to his dad owning the team.

wide spruce
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true, but he is still a good enough driver to compete he may not be the best but he can still drive

mystic aurora
hollow ridge
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bearman has 3 fewer points than stroll in 1 race 😄

wide spruce
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bearman has the second fastest car 🫠

hollow ridge
#

which car does alonso drive i forget

wide spruce
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aston martin and he is only 2 spots above stroll at 8th place 😂 same thing w lewis and russel

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i dont get whatur going at

hollow ridge
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where did i ever bring up lewis? lol

wide spruce
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im saying comparing teammates has nt to do w not being capable

mystic aurora
wide spruce
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a 7 time world champion is at the same situation as stroll

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2 spots below his teamate

hollow ridge
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lewis has 57% of his teammates points, stroll has 29% of his teammates points

wide spruce
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deis that mean lewis isnt good?

hollow ridge
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thats double the difference

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maths

wide spruce
hollow ridge
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um

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who wants to tell him how percentages work

wide spruce
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???

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u explain jt then

mystic aurora
#

More impressive, the current roster of junior drivers, able to maintain their super licence to compete in F1.
Lawson is a prime example.

crude kiln
mystic aurora
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It seems to be a bad business decision for the Alonso Martin team.

hollow ridge
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19/33= 57%. 9/31= 29% i dont know how else to explain it

wide spruce
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and im acc into every sport, i js love sports

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ask me abt any sport

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i dont know how that has anything to do

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w f1 knowledge

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but if thats what u think 🤷‍♂️

wide spruce
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what dont u understnad?

wide spruce
crude kiln
wide spruce
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look at me man against everyone and still haven’t lost, inspirational man

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^ beautiful reaction

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thats where i get my inspirationalness from, lance stroll, bro has his own reaction

crude kiln
#

Stroll's best performance!

jaunty cave
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Buonasera e grazie per avermi accettato

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Ho un grosso problema ho finito le monete come posso fare?

dapper wagon
#

Stroll just isn’t good enough for F1. It’s not hate it’s just facts. He’s only finished ahead of his teammate once since 2017. That was Sergey Sirotkin in 2018.

wide spruce
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hes had perez, alonso and vettel as his tm8s???

dapper wagon
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But he’s obtained like 50% less points compared to his teammates. That’s not good enough.

crude kiln
#

Looks like Ferrari is going blue in Miami 😅 So weird

wide spruce
glass garnet
#

What do you guys think about this rumour ?

crude kiln
#

He looks like he could be 12.

dapper wagon
dapper wagon
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Apparently it’s because they’ve signed a title partnership with HP now.

crude kiln
#

Scuderia Ferrari HP 😆

dapper wagon
terse field
dapper wagon
dapper wagon
terse field
#

True that

dapper wagon
#

I guess itll come down to how much money Merc will give Williams 😂

terse field
#

So dumb theirs jr teams in f1. What is this little league

gritty dew
feral tendon
#

but even 12 isn't enough.. I'd like to see points to 15 if you first want to change it..

gritty dew
gritty dew
calm geode
dapper wagon
#

A point someone made regarding having all drivers score as long as they finish is - teams sending/keeping badly damaged, unsafe, slow cars in a race just for points.

Which is a very valid concern. If you’ve got a couple cars going into the garage for repairs, to return 10+ laps down and then a safety car comes out, how many wave arounds would be needed etc?

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I altered the current season points to the proposed points system below. It doesn’t make it drastically different but it definitely makes it more interesting

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gritty dew
# dapper wagon A point someone made regarding having all drivers score as long as they finish i...

Yup. That's a real concern. And that can't be sorted out by limiting the point just based on timed rules (10X%? per lap) or no. of laps down... Difficult to say that a right rule/regulations can be set to limit those cars going back into the race... 🤔🤔 since it is a GP race (not an endurance serie) amongst other race safety/integrity considerations...

(There has to be some kind of limit)

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I was in favour of awarding points for all until I read these points.

gritty dew
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Hulk has basiclly signed for audi

glass garnet
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All over twitter

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Thanks … I’ll have a read 😉

gritty dew
heady sonnet
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Yep 😕😕

gritty dew
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Doubt it

gritty dew
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Yep. Both Audi and RedBull options mean going somehow backwards on the grid for 2025, being that at Sauber, or Racing Bulls (in exchange with Ricciardo, perhaps). The thing is, where he wants to be at the start of 2026. Another surprise will be to see him alongside Alonso at Aston Martin... 🤣🙄🤔🤔 there are not that many options for a competitive car left, in fact... 🙁🙁🙁

wide spruce
dapper wagon
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Hulk going to Audi is a no brainier. Would Sainz want to go to Merc in their current state anyway?

winter ledge
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Probably not, unless merc is building something really good behind the scenes. Sainz is good at judging teams performance I would say. When he moved to McLaren, that team was in a good spot of catching in terms of performance, and it's the same thing when he moved to Ferrari.

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Sainz to Aston along with Alonso will be cool. Although “I’m not here because of my father” has a permanent contract and has to realize he’s not for F1 and leave for something else first

dreamy burrow
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I was reading this article on the F1 app and thinking to myself that Lance Stroll would be an awesome 3rd driver.

The guy that puts hundreds of hours in simulators and also has laps on tracks (with nobody around)

I just feel his time on track, around 19 other drivers is not valuable to Aston Martin.

modest yarrow
fathom root
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Not sure if its the lighting but not bad 😁

wide spruce
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wow adrian newey leaving

celest ledge
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wonder where he’ll go

glass garnet
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gritty dew
gritty dew
# dapper wagon Hulk going to Audi is a no brainier. Would Sainz want to go to Merc in their cur...

Difficult one, yep, but perhaps given a choice, between 2025 Sauber, RB, Mercedes, and sabbatical (?) mmm, could be not that bad idea to go into Merc for a season in advance, to actually acknowledge them from the inside and get the grips of it sooner... just as kumagai has said 🤔🤔🤔 potentially, I see it as the less worse option going into 2026... But. Most probably he will take his time to decide, and for instance, see how client Ferrari's Sauber & Haas performs through the circuits respectively, too, knowing that almost every manufacturer is starting from scratch when they first hit 2026 shakedowns on circuit...
All this is, of course, discarding Aston Martin...

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Hey guys im new into F1 and I am looking for that answer what is Stroll doing in F1

terse field
wide spruce
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facts

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biggest pay driver in history

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absolute joke he is

wintry slate
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does anyone still watch F1 2021

kind reef
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Hulk to leave haas at end of 2024 and to join kick sauber (audi) in 2025

short ocean
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yes

dapper wagon
kind reef
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Yeah. It’s good for Hulk and Audi. Experienced German driver. Now they either need a good young talent or Sainz.

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I cant see Sainz at Merc due to contract length.

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Hulk out of Haas means 🐻 man is almost guaranteed

gritty dew
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(Audi) At least, have one talent ready to show up and point out rightly at the FP1's...

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I don’t think RBR would want Verstappen/Sainz if Perez continues on as he is now. Ricciardo out for Lawson and then Lawson replaces Perez in a few years?

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I think Merc would rather throw Antonelli in than Sainz for a year? There would be no benefit having Sainz for one year but you can grow Antonelli a lot in that time.

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Especially if Antonelli is replacing Sargeant at Imola 😂

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What a wild time we live in

gritty dew
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Indeed 🤔🤔🤔 I'd be surprised (but not unexpected) if Sainz finally decides to take a sabbatical year. Perhaps that 'ludicrous offer' Marco referred meant that it included that year completely buyout for Sainz too, from Audi's side...

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Antonelli in for a year in the old regulations will massively help

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crude kiln
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Hope so. This grid needs a shake up and Sargeant has had his chance imo.

mystic sleet
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If Kimi Antonelli liked that post… does it mean it’s more than just a rumour?

gritty dew
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More than, yep... but... I think it sounds safe to say that they may wait to have all 3 chassis available first & ready to run, lest they again are left with only one car to drive... 🫥🫥🫥

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hello

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anyone there

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dreamy burrow
gritty dew
# mystic sleet 💪

🤨🤨🤔🤔 by any chance, is that a hint to 'The Incredible' (Hulk)?? 😆😅🙄🙄

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So that's why it's green

gritty dew
quiet brook
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The 80s will be back in 60 years

void current
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WÆH 🔥🔥🔥

lethal robin
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Guys is max gonna go away by Red Bull or is he staying

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its conditional, if marko departs/ jos has max leave the team, then he could leave

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otherwise theres no reason for him to leave

lethal robin
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Yea but in 2026 is there a new rule is he going to mersedus

rare ferry
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Ok

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And sainz is he going to Red Bull

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I think Sainz maybe go to Mercedes because is a mistery the new contrat of Pérez

obtuse badger
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Dududu max versstapen Verstappen_23 redbull

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Idt sainz will go to mercedes

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There is no benefit in going there since it'll only be a 1 year contract

dreamy burrow
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Is max really better than Hamilton?

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I think his car is better.

terse field
# sullen bloom Is max really better than Hamilton?

Hard to know but we know Max has dominated more than Hamilton, when Hamilton had a dominant car for years. At the same time, Max has never had a teammate that has pushed him these past 3 to 4 years like Hamilton has so I would say hard to know.

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Max would had won just as much in the same car with the same teammates. So would Alonso. And others as well. So that argument is weak.

heady sonnet
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Interesting... I'm wondering who will come out on top if all of them have to drive with the same car, my bet will still on max due to his currenttly domination and unchalanging skill? but who would be on second third? Tough question... 🤔

sullen bloom
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I think Bottas and Perez both pushed both of them Hamilton and max further, my perspective is perhaps Bottas contributed even more than Perez did to max

terse field
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I think most would agree Perez is a better driver than Bottas tho.

lucid vessel
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^^^

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They're both great drivers. The difference is that LH is used to have the top 1-2 car every season and now that he doesn't is struggling to adapt

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However, George and Max have used a bottom 4 car at least once in their career so they have that experience under their belt and can adapt their driving style depending on how drivable the car is

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😳 Sauber 😳

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Does that include bottas

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I heard alexander Hamilton is retiring? Is this true?

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I mean I've googled it but I wanna make sure...

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He started racing when I was alot younger...maybe 13....I was in middle school and I watched nearly every race for 6 years. He's had good races then he's had bad races. But he's my hero ngl. Helped through a lot of bad times. If he retires, imma be sad to see him go, but he's had one helluva career.

gritty dew
# sullen bloom I think Bottas and Perez both pushed both of them Hamilton and max further, my p...

Good point of discussion 👆🏻👆🏻.

I agree with that impression, though perhaps how currently RedBull -and quite most other teams too, if not every team- is set, there's a clear 'race as a team spirit', and in RBR in particular, a clear n.1 and n.2 driver. So, in that sense that counts into consideration too. The years really Hamilton struggled for not having a top 3 car, I recall perhaps first half of 2013, and due to challenge from teammate, the 2016? (that Barcelona tangle) and the year Nico won the title (can't recall now which one was). Bottas, although he took the challenge to some extent after taking the place of Rosberg, it really didn't get that edge to really push Hamilton to struggle hard, as Rosberg did, regularly, and except for some short period of times... Max, in comparison, I really struggle to see when he had the same status inside the team against the teammate, after the year they both Ricciardo and him clashed at Sochi? was? (or was it Baku?) and the part off of Ricciardo. No one has challenged him -and will never let that happen, unless it is a 'young talent'(from RedBull junior or not) coming for a generational change-... sadly.

It will be almost impossible to see 2 top drivers in their respective prime / peak performances (age trim included) fighting in a same F1 Team... Maybe in the future, and taking the example of the FIM Bikes Championship Liberty own now, this status quo could change (who knows?) and may see an intra team battle of young talents in a top team... The one I recall the most, in my case, Kimi, Montoya, and Montoya, Ralph... as an example, back in the day...

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He's a talented driver. He's deserves his ride imo

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Hm I dont think LH better than max. Hammy is great... but what I admire max is his not only great at real racing, he is etremely good at sim racing in the same time, actually he had beat so many pro sim drivers... Which proved that he can adopts any types of racing without any big issues which is very impressive! And Hamilton never prove his talent outside of F1 field. But one thing I don't like is max temper, he sometime being too aggressive, when he bumping or crashing into other cars, he rather blaming on others than himself. I never doubt Hamilton talent but I just never find his talent outside of F1 tho, to me Hamilton seems to have more patience and little bit more composed I'm not sure...

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Perhaps talent wise, and skill set (?) they're quite similar, although they're now in two different ages and carrer moments, and that may give both drivers an edge over the other in different situations... It'll be very interesting to see if Ferrari car in 2025 helps Hamilton getting out of his struggle, and show again that genius without being that fragile... that could be a good thing for him and for the '26 season... In any case, and as it currently is, I see it is still Max the one to beat, though I'm not really sure if he's still that good at wheel to wheel racing, and overall racecraft, until he's challenged close & hard regularly by more than a driver at a time at every race... That remains to be seen, in my opinion... 🤔🤔🤔

gritty dew
# sullen bloom Hm I dont think LH better than max. Hammy is great... but what I admire max is h...

Regards sim racing, I'm not that sure if neither Hamilton or Rosberg, for instance, are keen to do or have the appeal for them to go ahead to, as Verstappen, after having that lengthy racing carrer which had F1 as their final peak 🗻 to climb... Perhaps as a hobby, why not, but wanting to be competitive again at that too, I'm not sure... I think that only depends on each one's personal likes/preferences, and desires, and not a matter of having talent or not...

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Newey leaving RB is official now. Crazy how Horner single handidly is ruining the team 😅 Feels like someone with sense would step back and end this power struggle instead of standing his ground and making the team worse for more power, and probably money, for himself.

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Hm. I think in any case, and just by reading his statement, it was about time to, I think. Internal power struggles were just a symptom of it, in the bigger picture... It will be a real surprise for me if he engages in a certain - as an example consultant? or supervisor role at Ferrari... But just as an F1 follower/fan that will be quite interesting too... 🙂

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Imagine if he wins too in a sailing America's Cup, for example!! That will be really amazing, honestly... 🥳🥳🥳

heady sonnet
heady sonnet
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Surely he’d just retire at that point

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That’s in his statement

jaunty cave
# heady sonnet That’s in his statement

Is it? Everywhere else is reporting he's left the F1 team effective immediately but working on the supercar until Q1 of 2025, no gardening leave. Negotiated an early release from his contract.

heady sonnet
jaunty cave
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It seems he's gone completely in Q1 of 2025 from Red Bull as a whole

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Nope

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Then he goes in the HyperCar programme

jaunty cave
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"The engineering supremo will step back from Formula One design duties to focus on final development and delivery of Red Bull’s first hypercar, the hugely anticipated RB17. He will remain involved in and committed to this exciting project until its completion. "

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Think you've got your wires crossed Onyx

heady sonnet
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Let’s see 😉 I do trust f1.com as a source 😂

jaunty cave
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It's literally on Red Bull's statement I'm copying to you 😄

heady sonnet
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And same as I am 😂

jaunty cave
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The way I read it is, he's stepping away from the F1 part(but still attending races in a non-official capacity) but going straight to the hypercar project.

heady sonnet
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It’s possible. However I still don’t believe they will let him go that easily for another team without a gardening leave

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And yes, I might be misreading it

jaunty cave
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He's a free agent after Q1 2025

dreamy burrow
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Oh noes! I've fallen behind F1 news for 2 days - what have I missed

glass garnet
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Hey Ferrari fans … what do you think about the special livery for Miami ?

I personally would’ve liked a bit more blue…

dreamy burrow
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Not that special. Thought it would be a lot more of a change from the standard one

feral tendon
heady sonnet
feral tendon
gritty dew
# jaunty cave He's a free agent after Q1 2025

At first I understood he was staying at RedBull Company (not RBRacing, which is the F1 team we all know) after Q1 of 2025, until the total completion of RB 17. But that was as it was read at the first brief headline at F1.com, with the release of his statement.

Now in that RedBull's official statement, I see he's really leaving the whole RedBull Technologies Group, with whom he has his working commitments. 👌🏻👆🏻

gritty dew
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But for me is OK. At least from that angle 😅😅😁😁

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Better angle? I just don't like the light blue (grey!). They should've sticked to one HP blue..

gritty dew
# feral tendon Better angle? I just don't like the light blue (grey!). They should've sticked t...

😅🤣 To be honest 🤣😆 after seeing for the first time that Google coloured wheels, with that multicoloured orange & black McLaren, and once getting used to it 😅😅 I'm already made my eyes & mind to see these kind of coloured schemes as liveries 🙂🙂

The one that I still can't see with good eyes 😆🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️🙇🏻‍♂️🫣🫣 is that Earth 🌍 on white coloured BAR Honda Racing 🫣🫣🫣🫣

That looked for me like a kindergarten car for kids... 😖😖😞😓

Found it. It is a scaled model, but still 😪

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l9_dkah9hC4

random perch
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But, it looks igh

gloomy trellis
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Hola

random perch
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Yall see Vcarb new livery

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It 100% better than ferrari

celest ledge
random perch
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Mhm