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First he will need to get out of Q1
hes giving himself a challenge
his race pace is beautiful
truly great
and thats why last year in a very tough brazil qualifying he got p3 in the 5thfastest car
i rest my case.
Why Alpine, Jorge 😳🤨🤔🤔? Sure they'll be better than Mercedes, or is there anything else? 🤔 both Alpine and Sauber/Audi options I think it will definitely (?) be worse for at least 2025 season, and I'm not sure if he would be interesting to lose/spend next season on a midfielder bakhalf of the grid car . \ in my opinion... 😕😕 he's already had enough of that at McLaren a few years ago, I think... and I don't feel he would be liking to sit another year in a car with a lower potential than a Mercedes... 😕😕
Ain't no way Carlos is going to Alpine, not after seeing their car this year
as a die hard ferrari fan i’m so mad they’re letting him go and i started watching in the vettel days so i hate hamilton
It can't be "unlucky" the amount of times he's messed up over the years. His podiums on the other hand have been very lucky.
Alpine will be out of racers in 2029 for sûre
i told u they gave him such a trash car and hes only doing it so he can make up spots during the rCe
race*
if he qualifies 1st he’ll find the race boring
he likes exicement
Who do we think is going to RB 👀
maybe yuki
might promote him
i mean wow look at hows hes doing now
That’s true it would also be cool to see Sainz Jr go if ill be honest
I think they choose to be boring and extend Perez again. Sainz will head to Merc.
Yuki over Checo? Nah. Checo seems to have accepted his role and with the weight off it’s ok now
Yuki will trash the car too often 😂😂😂
Yeah Yuki's mentality will and should hold him back. Especially from a top team where he wouldn't be the top dog.
Wouldn’t he be perfect in Aston instead of daddy’s boy?
With Honda coming also
I wonder when stroll will finally give up and go do something he actually enjoys
It's a different category
bro
hes not “daddys boy”
hes better then at,east 10 drivers this year
and thats not even his best
wait until shanhai
newcastle thrashed totthenham 4-0
Better in ? Crashing ? Making mistakes ?
Was not tough for someone that raced in f2 the previous day
Alonso is also competing with Ferrari in the same car 😂
😬
You know sometimes I forget stroll even exists
this is what dementia does to a bloke
What has he ever done in all these years so far that makes you go “wow” ?
Hey
getting pole in a wet turkish race at a very young sge when mercedes and red bull were much faster then everyone else
the car suits him better
Where have I heard that before
Alonso goat
Meh, Latifi is better
everywhere, bc its true
So you are telling me that somehow someone joining a team a few years after the first guy - in this case Alonso - has the car suited more to him than the guy that is the son of the boss and has been in that same team for years ? 😂 you’d think that even once the car might “suit” him no?
Hello
nah, hes waiting until 2026 to really try
and this weeks hes getting pole he told me
Yeah. And I’m Lindsay Lohan
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#lewishamiliton for life
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anyone theřē
hi
it is kinda like a mini race to decide where the drivers start just to change it up
Hello
your a girl?
Hi everybody
Nope. But it’s as plausible as Stroll doing anything 😂
hes done plenty
first of making the f1 is impressive enoguh
and currently he is top 10
which is impressive
he has 3 podiums
1 pole
even hulkenburg doesn’t even have a podium in more then double the years of stroll
and aint nobody hating in him
on*
therefore now on forward no stroll slander from anyone
I’m not sure if you are trolling now or not 😂
hi
This ? 😏
Does overtaking someone that crash count ? 😂
This is a more telling statistic
You can have 100 overtakes and nothing to show for it😉
Yes… just 1 point behind 7 time World Champion LH 44 💪🏼
You guys realize that i’m being slightly sarcastic … right ?
🤣😭
im not
see this proves my point
he qualifies low so he can have a interesting race
he can get pole whenever he wants
same thing can go for every driver then
I didn’t think defending Stroll was possible but here it is. Sir you might be Lance’s only fan besides his dad. It’s a great honor to meet someone so rare.
Stroll is at least not 100% pay driver like Mazepin. But 98% is quite close enough there. Heck, his father had to buy Aston for it lol 😂😂😂😂
respect my goat rn
hes acc pretty good when he has confidence though
The guys single handling holding back Aston Martin. He’s costing them millions of dollars in prize winnings. If his dad didn’t own the team, he would’ve been kicked out a long time ago.
he’s not
even if he got the same amount of points as fernando alonso last year they would only be p4
“lots of prize money”
ppl be disrespecting him too much
hes better then more then half the grid
half the grid doesn’t have the 4/5th best card though
He’s the last one when it comes to teams actually scoring. And even Yuki is close to him.
If stroll would’ve had almost as much as Fernando like 201 pts, Aston would’ve beaten Ferrari. If Stroll was a decent driver, they would’ve beaten McLaren last year. P4 is still millions more of prize money then P5. 🤣
Crazy how clueless you are 😂
im not talking abt js this year in other years as well which proves hes more then capable of prodcuing
first of all they woudn’t of beaten ferrari buddy
respect him fam
name 10 better drivers then him
also being only 1 pt behind a 7 time champion in a slower car proves he can still keep up
I’ll name 15 drivers 🤣
why is no one talking abt hamilton
you may begin
- Hamilton
- Fernando
- Max
- Checo
- Charles
- Sainz
- Lando
- Piastri
- Valtteri
- Yuki
- Hulk
- Bearman
- Albon
- Ocon
- Gasley
- Lawson
Just to add 1 more lol
if you may give me atleast 1 reason on how the last 6 drivers u named are better then stroll i’ll admit your right
5 of them dont even have more podiums than stroll
including albon who was driving a red bull for 2 years
and none of them even have pole
Out of those three, I think Pérez. Ricciardo will have to perform much more better with the car in the rest of the season (assuming he's staying at RB) so that he gets considered by the heads of RBR to think of replacing Pérez. He has to do it really bad to RedBull get to that point, I think. 2026 will be interesting to see, though, I think Pérez will do good too in a new car.
Bro I’ll take washed up Daniel over Stroll any day. I got nothing to prove but you need to prove how he’s better or a top driver like you swear 🤣
Maybe if he keeps this level to the end, and gives impressive performances, perhaps... who knows . )
There is another driver back waiting in the Honda line-up too, so in any case, there's lot of options there for every parts... . ))
stroll doesnt need to prove anything
hes alr revived the sport
i can prove hes better
by
nvm i cant
it was a joke the whole time for those of u who don’t know,
im js extremely patriotic yea, so i had to defend my boy
but he is kinda bad
but still when he has confidence hes good
and his race pace is very good
its js his quali
Your Canadian?
Can’t tell unless I click on it lol
But I’m American and I don’t like Logan. I can’t defend that dude anymore lol 😂
I want him gone so bad 🤣
First time I see Discord's notifications 🔔 🙂🙂 interesting to see that it gives a resume of what is being talking about 👍🏻👍🏻
What got me was it said, you guys were talking about Strolls impressive performance lol
the onyl reason i got into f1 was him
😁 ya, I saw it 😊😊 I don't have it activated myself . ))
Small world, I actually got into F1 because of Stroll in the early days.
lol
i can’t tell if that was sarcastic or not
Seeing this discussion about Stroll, it reminds me a bit of Kimi (whom I followed quite closely) or Jenson (similar case) being debated how 'good' they were while there were still driving at F1...
To be honest, I don't know that much about Stroll myself, since I was more interested in following Kimi's carreer, alongside Alonso's one, for instance...
In any case, within the list Eric has put, maybe -at least judging from the little I've seen from him- I will put him between Bottas and the rest of the drivers, to p15, all in the same mix. 🤔🤔 Would be quite interesting to see any of those 15 drivers in the current AM car, to see how they can perform and cope with it.
Must say that regards all-roundness, Alonso is extremely very talented, so directly comparing to him is not that conclusive, unfortunately... I personally would pick Pérez, Nico, or Albon, to see how they can perform with today's AM... Could be very interesting... . ) 👍🏻👍🏻🤔🤔
This is last years standings. Look how far apart Stroll is from his teammate compared to the rest of the top 4 teams. Piastri is understandable to be lower because he was a rookie but the Aston Martin was clear 2nd strongest first half of the season and Stroll couldn’t even get podium. Stroll is just not at par with Alonso. Do we expect him to beat him? No but to at least compete, yes and he’s not. Somebody else’s deserves the AM seat and the reality is if his dad didn’t own the team, Stroll would’ve been gone as he cost them P4 and possibly beating Ferrari last season.
Yknow who I want gone? Daniel Ricciardo
Same. Logan, Stroll and Daniel needs to go.
Liam Lawson would be pushing Q3 most weekends in the VCARB
Exactly
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Sebastian Vettel joins Le Mans incredible and I They have it test on the porch
They would be P3 in constructors 😅
206 + 206 is more than 206 + 200
Actually they would be P2 in constructors if stroll had same points as alonso
And I guess that’s why he’s the Minister of Defense !!!
ALPINE'S DEFEND 🤣 💀
I did not expect Logan so high up with Checo lol
Can’t be overtaken if you start and finish last 😂😂
Backmarkers don’t count I guess lol
Yes, from that point of view, there's actually nothing to discuss, this is, if Aston had another driver instead of Stroll, that at least could be just 2nd best behind Alonso, or as close as him, just as Pérez is for Verstappen, to say an example. That's obvious . \ . I saw that the last season, and got an idea of the driver pairing level Alonso had at AM.
Sad to hear that Danny Ric blames a chassis for his poor performance since the start of the year… but what if he’s right ? 🤔
Perhaps. Though my understanding was that he was having a run with Tsunoda's car/chassis? but I see that he's getting a completely new one. At least Alan Permane will give him what's he's asking for, so that's ok from his side.
Oddly similar to the 2015 Red Bull story or the Renault he grassed...
This is an amazing illustration
Wow. 945 days since Daniel "never left".
Ok but what happened because I didn't see the Chinese GP
Because it’s this week
Saw that (& similar) memes too last week 😆😆 I laughed at the one saying he was seen 🛬 at the Shanghai airport... 😁🤪
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Ferrari toe to toe with Red Bull
Yes of course
Me too
Prob because wrong chsnnels
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I’d better not answer right ?
no. i dont need your negativity in my life rn
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Hello everyone
Yooo
dont be scared of his sacred wisdom
Poor Carlos … even if it’s a BIG $$$ contract … I wouldn’t go to a 5 seconds pit stop average team 🫠
audi is not stake kick sauber💪
Still… I doubt they will be competitive from the start …
Audi doesn’t just come to Formula 1, Audi comes to win
So does Honda with Aston Martin, So does Ferrari, Red Bull, Mercedes …
they will be competitive we will be amazed
Alpine also said they were coming in F1 to win 😂🤣😂
alpine is a big disappointment.. even sad is that
It will be a while until Audi becomes competitive, its Formula 1 not street racing 🤣
let's wait and see... I think that Audi has enough money etc.. with Sainz a top driver
Brawn racing be like
Even though there may be some true fact in that statement (Red Bull not being able to offer what they do, for instance) I like how this man speaks publicly 🤣🙈🤦🏻♂️ he always has some juicy statement for the media to publish about... What this time, an excuse to why they don't hire Sainz back, and a dig on him for being eager, and money hungry? 😓😓 anyway...😒😒😒
What a difference to Lauda, to say an example...
For Marko to publicly say they can’t afford Carlos and can’t match Audi offer is just him blatantly saying he doesn’t want him nor Max to be challenged. Nobody even knew Audi offered him a large contract so this is all new for us.
Yup. Absolutely.
In any case, I think it will be almost to impossible to see a top team having again a two top drivers line-up (and both in a very similar age range) despite that already was a very rare & unique choice in the past decades...
I still believe sainz merc is the most likely
I do too.
Ggoooo ferrari
Audi has been the top contender for his signature for a long long long time. Even before Ham signed with Ferrari - Sainz was top priority for Audi (including due to his father's ties with Audi).
Same, or a one year sabbatical, even though that would be worst case scenario
Yeah I don’t think Merc would want only a 1 year deal.
Merc has the perfect opportunity to give Antonelli a chance. Realistically they won’t compete before regulation changes and that one year in the seat would be invaluable for him with little to no expectations. If he’s as good as everyone says he is - that is the way to go for them next year
shouldn't he at least fight for the podium in F2 now then?
The interest was indeed there, but for me it only made sense from 2026 on, not before (?) which I think is the part that perhaps is referring to Marko, and perhaps they've may already pushed/purposed for a deal. A way to somehow arrange Sainz' mid 2025 season, now that he won't be staying at Ferrari until the entrance of the new regulation set... I guess he never thought of a similar situation (?) to actually happen... (losing his Ferrari seat for 2025?)
Maybe a season at Stake Audi, is better than a season being sabbatical...
He will NOT be on a sabbatical … I just can’t see that happening
Stroll P1, Nando P19
Wow!! Haas & Aston!! Let's see if any works Mercedes can make it to Q3? 🤔🤔 perhaps not this time...
And, the fire lighting on the grass is a 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨🙄🙄 grass too dry, but, well, that's going to be a yellow flag come race time, or are they going to do smthg about it 😳😳🤯😵?🫥🫥 (Or just bits of incandescent track/car debris igniting the grass (wood chips from the bottom planck)? Unless they get into a totally wet race, that grass alongside the circuit may bring trouble... )
The rain comes into play, Sauber did well this time and set the right times and they're both to Q3 😮
Hamilton & Alonso both to Q3 too. Haas this time both out. As well as Russell and Stroll.
Chaos! 😂
Norris again making mistakes when he has a car to Q front row. Happens way too often.
Norris back to top!
yeah p1 for norris
What? He got another lap in after I had turned it off?😂
They reinstate his laptime
no they give the lap back
Ah I see
Well, at least the Chinese being lazy with their weird paint, is entertaining
No matter how the weather will be during the weekend, they really should do that work of mowing rightly the hole lawn alongside the circuit 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
And with the trackside grass, too 😒 They may be lucky 🍀 enough to escape this, but... 😓
What could've caused the fire today
Do not exactly know, but my guess is that if that grass would have kept well trimmed & short to the ground, with more open air on top of it - and not that bush, that would have been less likely to burn up, in my opinion, no matter what exactly did started that fire... 😕😕😕
Anyone know the weather for Sat & Sun? Hoping for dry so we might get many overtakes!
Apart from very early sat morning, shouldn't be any rain but it will be overcast
This week will be exciting if it keeps raining in Shanghai
Here’s what I found with AccuWeather
Shouldn’t be rain for either days…
@glass garnet Great! Rain just causes issues in races nowadays with red flags and few overtakes when they get to race in it and not sit in the pitlane waiting for it to dry up.
Yup 🫤 good point there 👆🏻🫤 perhaps on a semi-wet or an inter tyre trim race could be a bit more interesting, perhaps...? 🤔🤔 If it runs in completely dry conditions, mm, how long will the top 3 last in those positions through the race maybe an interesting point, but... 🙄🙄
According to Baidu's weather forecast (the "alternative" to Google in china), Sunday from 15:00 to 17:00 there is a 70% rain probability
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Oh damn !!! That’s a big difference 😅
yeah, but as long as it's in the race i guess it's good to see for strategies and such, not if it's gonna rain in qualis :P
Right what is going on with red bull. McLaren is doing shockingly well and Mercedes is coming back?
Damn
Damp conditions would be preferable
Tryhard F1 fantasy discord has been keeping eye very much on the weather reports and general believe there is we will have dry for rest of the race week
I wouldn't say it's Mercedes coming back, but rather Hamilton showing his skills in wet conditions. McLaren's balance is very good in wet conditions and we saw it already last year
around 1-4% rain chance for sprint and qualifying, 20% chance for race
True. But I was talking to my dad about it and he was like “just wait till the race, max will win”
yeah most likely
Could this really mean what we think it means ? 🤔
hes staying
Omg how do I get rid of Ferrari as my role I don’t want it no more ☹️
I wanna be orange ☹️
Like a chav
DID IT
There's an F1 fantasy discord?
He is finally accept that he sucks
"And through goes Sergis Perilton!"
Here goes Hamilton out in Q1
*Q1
Thanks for correcting me. I am half dead its 3 Am 😂😂
Did you wake up early or still awake because of the sprint haha
I am still up. Thought it would be interesting in qualifying after sprint. But I guess its same old for Mercedes
Oof Sainz fail now too
Madness 😆
Guysss…..Who’s gonna win in the CGP tomorrow? Any guesses
Max prolly
Max unless something out of his control happens
Surprisingly boring sprint. Starting to think these regulations aren't good for the races when we see this few overtakes on tracks like China.
Aston Martin have lodged a complaint with the stewards since the incident as Carlos got going again after a Red Flag
if it is approved
stroll starts p10
we love to see it
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Ive heard sainz may start from P15
yea
bc he stopped on the track and therefore it says he can’t continue
i think thats why
Boring? One of the best sprint races I’ve ever seen. It had it all. Max maxing, Checo double overtake. Alonso racing amazing until his car fails on him, Hamilton solid p2. Charles complaining after the race about Carlos battling him and lastly, Noris choking.
Whaaat? Was literally a train of cars with 0 overtakes until the end where the things you mentioned happened.
Was hard to warm those tires up is my guess why it took sometime for action to start
Good sign for actual race where we have more laps
Yeah but let’s be honest. It didn’t look like Max wills catch up to Lewis but he did. Checo was struggling to fight through but pulled off a double overtake. Alonso battled Carlos epically and held them off for a while. Lando completely messed up and it seemed Hamilton would run away with it. Zhou finished top 10. What more do you want? Just another winner? Lol
Thing was as I said that 90% or more of it was boring with just a train of cars. Then some mistakes happened at the end that at least made sth happen.
Plus remember it’s a sprint and tires were cold and they were on mediums so you shouldn’t expect action after lap 1
Seen many better sprints in prior seasons with non-stop action. That was the thing of sprint races. They went all in and wasn't just a train 90%.
I disagree. One of the best sprints I think but I get it wanting more action in the race.
It might not have been the best sprint race but it was still better than any practice session. The battle was fantastic.
The cars are too heavy, too long, too wide, too sensitive to wind and temperature. The cars are definitely getting closer on single lap pace but in a race not soo much. Just for it all to change soon anyway and create the same issues all over again 😂
I've also reacted to the cars' length when seeing them next to old cars. Feels like they should want to make them shorter since that should help with overtakes. But might be wrong since I'm no technical expert 😇
It’s comical seeing the new cars next to older ones. They’re ginormous. Im no expect but it’s definitely harder to race wheel to wheel in heavy, wide, long, sensitive cars.
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Verstappen passed by Perez into T1
Are any of the races actually worth watching anymore? I think the last one I watched was Saudi. These new regs haven't made things anymore interesting.
Didn’t watch for 8 laps - max already 8 sec ahead lol
Alonso got past Perez at turn 1 and then held everyone up for a bit so that gap appeared very quickly
I saw that but it’s still quite a bit
He's still 6 to 7 tenths quicker than Perez even when he was past Alonso. That barely made any difference
True, we all know it's about racing for P2 this season
It's just so dull. 😴
LMAOO😭
Everything ? 😂 how since all of them basically got a free pit stop
It changes nothing 😂. Max will speed away and there'll be a very brief battle for 2nd before they all spread out again
Top guys are on hard I believe
who knows he might fumble
Right as he does that often 😂
I've given up hoping for something like that. He never fumbles
it can still happen
Only thing that can stop him currently is a technical failure
or that
Max is just toying with the rest of the grid
WHAT HAPPENED TO STORLL
Stroll rofl
WHY IS HE PITTING
RB SPUN AROUND
I WOKE UP AT 3AM TO WATCH MY GOAT NOT FINISH THIS RACE
Your goat just smashed into Ric
Yeah right
He decided to use another car as brakes again
You saw the onboard
look what dnaiel was doing
he was touching piastri
crofty js said he had no chance of avoiding that
You are really going to blame it on Ric ? 😂
yes
Stroll has often showed lack of spatial awareness
When you slam into someone from behind - you are always at fault
Because he drove into the back of ric
Blame it on Alonso if anyone other than Stroll. He locked up and caused everyone else to have to brake harder than what they should have done
no buddy no
sure
so even if they brake check u?
What brake check lol 😂 are we watching the same race ?
even my goat stroll said it was a brake checo
So Alonso caused every to have to react and brake hard...stroll didn't react
check
that makes sense
Of course he would say that ? That’s for the Marshalls to influence them
alr
What would he say ? “ I was too slow to react and it’s my bad?”
knowing him, yes
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
stroll penaltyyy
Yeah because he was innocent 😂
It's so sad that the best racing is for last place 😂
Last place action was something lol
Apparently Stroll thinks it’s a joke for smashing into another driver lol
It’s also sad Alonso in the same car is fighting a Red Bull and a Ferrari and Stroll is struggling with a Haas for last place 😂
If Max’s car breaks down, I’m confident Lando will find a way to bottle it
Hey guys can someone give me a quick rundown of what's happened so far? I'm on holiday nd can't watch the race
“No thank you” 😂
A few crashes and max still in the lead.
Crashes with who?
Bottas engine died, caused a SC
Then stroll did a Bottas and torpedoed Ric. Hulk took Yuki out on the restart
Caused another sc
And after that it’s cruising for max so far
And I have no idea why but Piastri has damage
Yeah but it was Ric’s fault for braking so hard cuz Stroll was totally innocent lol
Nooo 💔💔
Off topic - what’s the record for grand slams/hattricks in a season? Max seems to be going for it
And how's lando doing??
How the heck Alonso still in 5th 🫠
P2
Great
Yeah he’s doing good. Will see how well Perez races to catch up to Lando. Perez should catch up and we can have a battle for P2 in the last few laps
Good 🙏🙏
Sainz is struggling
Omgs nooo
They didn’t pit him and he’s on the hard tires from his first pit stop
What a recovery drive from Lewis. From 19th to 8th now
Ooo nice nice
Ugh idk if Perez will catch up and pass Lando. Lando is doing really well
Good omg, he deserves podium
Yeah for sure
If Alonso passes hulk, we could have a Alonso and Hamilton battle lol
And he passed
Hamiltons in trouble. Alonso is hot
What a save lol
How he managed that lol
And still passed lol
You know Russel is doing well when you don’t hear anything about him lol
Sargeant and Stroll in the back seems very fitting lol
I hope russell moves up somewhat
But he's still doing so well
Acc I'm quite happy w how it's going
But I'm mad abt yuki
Come on max, dnf, make the racing exciting lol
Max is definitely trying to get fastest lap on the last lap lol
Lando was impressive. Or Checo just didn’t care enough 😂
Naw Lando was putting fast times actually. I’ll give it to Lando
Man the sport is boring nowadays
Hey saludos desde Manzanillo Colima Mexico
Great job lando
Can’t blame Max when he drives perfect races 🤷🏽♂️
Woaaa what happened to ricciardo??
After Abu Dhabi 23 pratice 1 I finally think that he has superb skills
He got hit by the window licker
Aka stroll
LMAOO
Lando forgot what it’s like being on the podium lol
Nos vemos ya me voy a dormir por si tienen pendiente, bye
Zhou finished 3rd lol
Damn even have Sergio ahead of Max lol
Oh not quite
It was Toto
This was the previous start
British Bias again 😆
Nope it’s right now as race finished lol
Ferrari making a champions team next year
Previous start? 😄
Lol
Go check lol
Yeah, Sam working overtime on the official site 😄
Rumours say so
Because I still see he him red bull
guys i have a question
like how many races are there in china , like how is hamilton on the podium and stuff i dont understand was that just qualifying or was it the real race ? and who won the race and how is hamilton on the podium ?
The race yesterday was just a sprint race where less points are awarded and only for the top 8 drivers. The real/full race was today and Hamilton was far from a podium, unlike yesterday.
and yesterday what was his placement ?
I think he was 3rd yesterday in the sprint.
In other news I just saw they are thinking of a new points system that sounds good to me.
It's the same points as now for top 7. Then 8th gets 5p, 9th gets 4p, 10th gets 3p, 11th gets 2p and 12th gets 1p.
i will never forget the 2021 race
lewis hamilton's 8th world chamionship was stolem that day

7th*. Massa has one
Could this potentially hint at one more team added ? 😂 12/20 getting points is a bit too much imo
Yeah Massa was even more robbed which makes it ironic about people complaining about 2021.
And Lewis has never proved himself in a worse team. He has always driven for top teams. That's why I don't think anyone can say he's the best of all time. One of the best, sure. But that includes at least 5 other drivers where I think most would consider at least Senna and Schumacher above.
naaah where is vettel and alonso and niki ?
Vettel is overrated imo. I wouldn't consider him among the best of all time. Depends how many get on that list tho 😅 If there are like 50 then sure.
Was said to make midfield battles matter more and I like it!
Senna and Schumacher would deliberately take out another driver to win a WC.
nah lewis with the mercedes goes hard af
I think they should keep it as it is or give points for all who finish the race
Touching on what Qnyx said - 12 is a very odd number when you have 20 drivers.
Yeah really hard. Those battles for 7-8th place are very exciting 😂
give him a good car and look at him destroying max
we've seen him dominate for seasons we know damn well he's more than capable of winning another wc with a good car
He had a good car in 2021. We saw how that ended 😉
cheat cheat my boy
it was the safety car
You can blame Merc for not changing his tyres there
it was risky consedring max was just behind him
and it would have cost them the championship
People still bitter about 2011 🤷🏻♂️😃🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Let it go already
nuh uh
Because that didn’t happen already ? 😂😂😂
What about Baku 21? What happened to Lewis? He threw the title away
Silverstone 21? And Toto’s comments just before that ?
I agree that points to all finishers would be best but disagree that the current system is better than the suggested one. Top 10 becomes a too exclusive club that basically always means that a top team need a DNF or sth similar for one of the worse teams to score points.
it was the united kingdom he would never let max win there lmao
You can pick multiple races in the 21 season and both drivers and team threw the title away. ABU was just one of those races but because it was the last race it’s somehow different
he dominated most of the race dammit
he would have won if the safety car wasnt there
@heady sonnet My feeling is that he's trolling. Must be 😅
There’s more than 1 race in a season
Taking away from one of the closest and most exciting seasons we have had is just silly especially through a one sided bias
well they were equal in points
until the last race which was the tie breaker
Maybe Lewis should of done better on the other 20 odd races 😝
So let’s just try to kill him ? Sure. That works 😂
max is just a little baby who would have done the same in that situation
like literally any time someone overtakes him he gets angry and does anything to take his position back
I agree. But just find it odd that 12 is the chosen number. I’m not sure it would change much this season, but would have to look at the results closely I guess
Wait I thought that was all max fault for Silverstone? What was it “he didn’t leave me enough space” ?
oh come on
give both max and lewis a good car
we both know lewis would win
So how come Russell has a win and Hamilton doesn’t in the current regs?
Russell is the GOAT?
you mistook that for alonso
So he’s skilled but without a good car you can’t do well unless you out-perform the car 😂
nothing makes me happier than max getting dnf
Stop feeding the troll.
Nothing makes Max happier than winning in 21 I bet 😝
i am not a troll
I like to feed myself
That's what a troll would say!🤭
The (s)troll 😂
lmao
I love the 21 debates. Because it’s kinda pointless. It’s happened. It’s done. It’s history
Saw a great Twitter comment regarding the best of all time to someone who said Vettel > Max. "Vettel was beat in his prime by Ricciardo and Leclerc. But the biggest crime was that he made Stroll look like a decent driver" 😂
guys is it forbidden to swear ?
There wasn’t this much uproar when Senna wiped out Prost for a title. Or Schumacher on Hill. It’s only because it’s Netflix
Yes
cus i said the lance stroll song and got a warning
yk the "lance would you like to go for a stroll?"
Yes, it’s a discord that is used by kids also. #📜│rules-and-guidelines
That is funny and true 😝
damn i cant sing the lancey strolly anthem :/
Vettel back in 2011-2013 had the best car and was in his prime. He was great, but the car was just phenomenal
i wonder how ferrari will go for lewis
He will flop there also 😂
Sometimes drivers suit a car/tyres/regulations perfectly. That was Vettel back then.
and i think ferrari fired the wrong driver we've seen how smoooooooooooooooooth carlos is
hes a smoooooooooooth operator
agreed
RB19/20 and likely 21 - that is just outstanding also. Maybe even more so compared to the old RB of Vettel and the Schumacher Ferrari
Was a reason why basically all drivers said Alonso was the best driver on the grid even after Vettel's 3rd WC. Everyone knew it was mostly due to the car and a sub-par teammate.
btw is it true that vettel might return to F1 ?
Impossible to say. The stats suggest it’s far more dominant, but only in Maxs hands 🤭
the reason max is dominating rn is because of the car , change my mind .
What Alonso did in that Ferrari was unbelievable. When you compare the drivers of Redbull, Ferrari and McLaren at the time, Massa was in an F2 Ferrari 😝
I won’t try because your mind is set in stone.
Nuh uh
Why isn’t Perez dominating?
Troll troll troll.
And it’s not because of his perfectionism, nor his focus, nor driving precision. Nope. It’s all the car and it drives itself 😂 Some Lewis fans are just too obvious 😂
Why did Albon, Gasly, Kvyat all get fired from Redbull? Why couldn’t they get within 0.5 of max? Same cars, yet weren’t even close. It’s ok to admit Max is extremely talented. Likewise so is Lewis.
ok he is talented
but not as much as lewis
if we gave them both the same car , both in their prime and best form , lewis would win
lewis is just the best and every one ( including the drivers ) agrees on it
Not sure max is in his prime yet tbh.
Everyone but Rosberg 😉
sure sure we believe you 😂
So if Nico beat Lewis in the same car in his prime - does that make Nico better 🤷🏻♂️
Yes.
lewis beat him more times
also saying max is not in his prime is like saying lace is a good driver
And Rosberg beat Schumacher as teammates. So Rosberg is the undisputed GOAT
naaaaah kimi is the goat
Max is not even 27 yet. He still has a lot of years ahead
yeah its totally beat=better
You said that’s the criteria ?
THROUGH GOES HAMILTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
i blame the car not lewis
Obviously he does as well
That’s why he is bailing 😂 “it’s my family blah blah” “oh sorry, Ferrari has been my dream”
well he's leaving mercedes because they can't give him a winning car
what other options does he have redbull ? 💀
/sarcasm
What happened to the “I believe in the team” “it’s my family” etc? That was what - 5 months ago? 😂
yes
And yes, reports said he did approach RB and they told him no 😂
Mark Hughes generally doesn’t go in such direction 😉
lallalallalalalalaal i believe what im programmed to believe i am but a robot that is grinded into cycle
lewis is the best imo
raaaaaaah

checo in the sprint yesterday when fernando and carlos were fighting each other:
Ricciardo has a 3 place grid penalty for Miami.
We still arguing about AD21? Lol
Championship without Max. Pretty close in the drivers part! RBRacing can't keep up with just one car though 😦
I made a video for that moment lol
unlucky today ngl, had a good pace
dnf + penalty is pretty sad
So you're telling me that Sainz has left a big gap to the car in front of him, so he accelerates quickly, miscalculates the gap, slams the brakes and almost completely stops, causing Alonso to almost crash into him, causing a chain reaction, and Stroll ends up being to blame and gets penalised because he can't react in time? To the people saying he looked at the apex or didn’t pay attention, do you know that drivers look at the apex when cornering? Try and watch through all the drivers onboard at this time and most of them are looking at the apex at the same position Stroll does. Found this on twitter and I think hes completely right
No. At no point did Ric even attempt to “brake check” Stroll. Stroll was too close to him and simply smashed into Ric - he was accelerating when others were slowing down . 110% Daddy boy’s fault for not paying attention (even if Alonso started the chain reaction)
56:28 in the f1 pro stream, from Stroll perspective
Didn’t even attempt to turn it was straight torpedo mode on
he wasnt too close he was just carrying too much speed
so for stroll is was an brake check
and Sainz started it htw
btw*
He accelerated when others were slowing down
That’s not a brake check by the guy in front. Not to mention he had room on his right
daniel ric also hit the car infront of him js not as bignas stroll
its js that like i said stroll was carrying too much speed
If you accelerate at that point it’s not carrying it 😂 it’s pretty clear in his onboard cam
wdym its nit carrying jt
I mean increasing speed when the other guys aren’t - that’s on you, not on the person in front of you. Especially if you don’t even attempt to change trajectory
You see a wall in front of you - will you smash into it? As you were carrying speed? 😂
that is exactly what sainz did
that is why alonso went to the left
and started the qhole chain
Basically Alonso reacted and Stroll didn’t ?
Apex is on the right
ik
Then … be careful 😂 you can move to the right not continue straight and increase speed
like i said daniel also hit the car in frint but since he was going slower it didnt do damage, stroll was going faster because he had a bigger gap so daniel didnt react eithier
he wasnt looking striaght
which is a bit odd tbh
Hold up, you defending Stroll? Bahahaha Stroll 100% at fault. It was a rookie mistake but definitely his fault
that is correct
Exactly. I don’t hate stroll, not my fault he has to keep sucking
whos ur fav driver
Lance Stroll said that he crashed because drivers ahead suddenly braked.
Piastri's response: "Yes, but everyone else didn't crash into each other."
ok piastri buddy
hm
Can’t believe Perez is dominating.. such a boring sport
Not Max fault for driving so perfect without mess up lol
Checo can always mess it up 😂😂😂 there are many races still
I once was a defender of Stroll… just saw the race and I’ve had enough (just like Danny Ricciardo in the post race comments)
I know everyone have said it for quite some time now, but I think he’s gotta go …
If the rumours of Aston Martin wanting him to ease into the Supercar program is true… that would be the best news … for him and everyone else on the grid
what you guys are thinking about new F1 points thing?
What new F1 points thing ?
If Aston Martin want to seriously compete in the constructors championship, they need a proper second driver. They can’t be Alonso Martin for much longer.
They could easily be ahead of Mercedes this year.
I 100% agree and I really hope that there’s really doubt coming from AM in regards to Stroll
In terms of the points proposal. I think my math is ok (been drinking most of the day) but not too much has changed but it’s enough to make it more interesting I guess?
Can you try last seasons since we are only 5 races in. Maybe last season minus Max, would’ve been a more intense season for everyone else.
No way am I going through a whole season. That would take ages. I only did the one above to pass the time on the train 😆
Come on, you said yourself you don’t play as much as you use to do. You got time before the new season starts lol 😝
He has to lay the foundations for the resource sheet after all 😄
I don’t have THAT much time 😆
👀👀👀
Amazing I was debating wether to get it or not
How are you displaying yours? Im trying to find somewhere to put mine lol
I don't know how many 'unforced errors'? he's already had, but not being able to rightly follow the car in front is one. Just watched the race summary a moment ago, and got this screenshot.
Alonso, and the rest of the all 4 drivers managed to get away from that moment without any trouble, it was just a normal thing to happen in a Safety Car slowed running. From the 5 drivers in a row, Lance had the most time to react, and even had more distance between him and the one in front, Ricciardo. The other 4 were much more close to each other, and they still made it! without any issue. 😳😳
There, the next moment when Alonso had to lock up the brakes after Sainz. Russell made it, Piastri made it, Ricciardo made it, but Stroll, not. They were not even racing (as in Australia's Russell case...).
I just thought the same. Some Hamilton ruining Canada '08 Kimi's race, came to my mind... 😪😪😪
Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) crashes into Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari)
Ofc. The light was red, Mr. Commentator!!! 😒😒😒😒
Hopefully, this time Russell reacted well...
My thought about Stroll trying to defend his mistake by mentioning the « Concertina effect »
lets all b completely honest, im not tryna start a arguement with these eric dude or this team xeroxodxx dude or qnyx, but lance stroll is the most hated driver, i dont yall to write full paragraphs or anything but he also doesnt deserve this much hate
or this psywar dude thats typing
stroll deserves the hate because he is a nepo baby in year 7 on a top midfield team, not a williams rookie
No one is hating against lance stroll but simply pointing out his mistake in the last race, also reading the previous chat messages neither of them are getting in an argument but simply discussing the fact. Looks like you're trying to get some attention by calling out people, this thread is for f1 discussion, constructive criticism is always welcomed, writing senseless messages isnt
Stroll the most hated driver? Wow. I'm just being disappointed, Barca. Not hating anyone at all 🤦🏻♂️😮💨😮💨
Do you really think he did nothing wrong in that safety car shunt? At least I expected him to own his mistake. George Russell at least did it with his official statement. Or do you really think, for instance, that Alonso was in fault of Russell's error in the Australian GP 😳? Or now too, for Stroll crashing into Ricciardo?
Those car/drivers maneuvers are a normal thing in racing. Unless they start now to regulate against it (?) which I don't discard at all.... 🤦🏻♂️
Where's the driver's minimal standard going to be set at?
Don't get me wrong. I'm just being honest. No hate feeling at all to Stroll.
Thanks @fathom root for providing some thoughtful support & help too, to bring some light into the topic of discussion 🙏🏻🙏🏻🤗🤗
i never said just this race? in general, hes a lot better then sargeant for example and he doesnt get nearly as much hate as stroll
Yeah. I agree with that.
same thing can be said for hamilton this year too then??
😂 i would say a lot of stuff but i couldnt i got a warning for calling simeone a clown 😂 but what is u on fam, js saying a hot take is considered asking for attention, and when did i once refer to the orevious msgs 😂
like i said fam i would say a lot but i cant
and how am i calling ppl out i simply told them to respond w a yes or no
😂
nah this man is different
and i said im not tryna start an argument
🤦♂️
But the thing is, being at the position where he is, I think you have to expect to get that criticism if you don't perform as expected . \ Sargeant is not yet (?) at that point since the Williams' car itself is not even being able to perform with Albon.
Same criticism that Ricciardo is still receiving, for being at that RB seat, for example.
I personally don't expect - nor even try to pretend for Stroll to perform exceptionally well (maybe, though that's just wishful thingking from my side .\ ) but I least I expect him, as said previously to the GP, to do a consistent and solid job. This is, at least drive it error-less (or the most error less possible) and whenever made one, take the responsibility for it. I think that's fair to ask for him, and, in my opinion, wouldn't have received that harsh response from the public in this case.
Maybe just maybe, he shouldn’t ram his car into the back of another driver when he had so much space yet everyone in the same situation, avoided a collision yet Lance was the only one not paying attention. Also how often does Lance do something like this? Yeah he gets no breaks. Maybe he should leave to a lower class team since he clearly doesn’t deserve that seat. If his dad wasn’t the owner, he would’ve been out of formula 1 along time ago.
go on mate no ones stopping you
Hi
I don't think anyone "hates" Stroll. People are just pointing out what's been obvious since long. That he's not good enough for that seat. And if someone messes up in what is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsports it would be weird if people don't mention it.
i didnt know lewis's dad owned mercedes, crazy learn something new every day
i can’t like i said i got a warning for calling someone a clown
when once in your msg did u write his dad owns the team
than how come ppl “mention” his mistakes more then anyone else
if another driver makes a mistake they wont say “daddys boy” “doesnt deserve a seat” “trash” “garbage”
they js live on
but every time stroll does smt even if its the smallest things ppl mention it
Because he makes more mistakes than normal and has for many years?😅
Most people understand he only has that seat because his dad bought the team. So ofc that will get mentioned when he does mistakes and/or keeps underperforming.
he won in f3 hes a capable driver he doesnt inly drive for aston martin “because his dad bought it”, he just needs his confidence back, like when he puts the senna like weekends knce every year or smt he has confidence then, he said in a podcast that he works best when hes confidence, and if theres ppl out there that criticize everything little thing he does he wont be confident, like young his career he was good bc he had confidence ppl weren’t criticizing him.
I need money
wrong channel
Nuh uh I need coins
still the wrong channel
and to prove he gets more hate, just watch australian grand prix highlights in yt and check the comments then watch the chinese one and see how everyone is bashing stroll but not a single person is saying anything about russell crashing in australia
Ok
thats what nepo baby means
oh mb but other then that everything applies to lewis
Yeah heard his dad bought him all the best mechanics and strategy people in F3 as well 😅 And it's not uncommon to do well in a lower class and not being able to translate that into F1. Happens regularly.
But come on, are you seriously saying he doesn't have that seat due to his dad? They fired Perez who was the better driver and had literally saved the team economically and kept Stroll. That wouldn't had happened if it wasn't due to his dad owning the team.
true, but he is still a good enough driver to compete he may not be the best but he can still drive
Only issue with the F3 is it was 2016. We've seen some better junior talent since then.
…
bearman has 3 fewer points than stroll in 1 race 😄
bearman has the second fastest car 🫠
which car does alonso drive i forget
aston martin and he is only 2 spots above stroll at 8th place 😂 same thing w lewis and russel
i dont get whatur going at
where did i ever bring up lewis? lol
im saying comparing teammates has nt to do w not being capable
You've jumped in a bit late
a 7 time world champion is at the same situation as stroll
2 spots below his teamate
lewis has 57% of his teammates points, stroll has 29% of his teammates points
deis that mean lewis isnt good?
lewis is below russell how does he have more then russell 😂
More impressive, the current roster of junior drivers, able to maintain their super licence to compete in F1.
Lawson is a prime example.
I've learned that it isn't healthy reading social comments regarding sports 😅 People make you lose faith in humanity then. And F1 has got alot new "soccer fans" due to DTS. At least in here it's mostly more civilized. But there will be negative comments when people mess up. Even if we like the driver(s).
It seems to be a bad business decision for the Alonso Martin team.
that makes sense
19/33= 57%. 9/31= 29% i dont know how else to explain it
lol i’ve watched like 2 dts episodes in my life
and im acc into every sport, i js love sports
ask me abt any sport
i dont know how that has anything to do
w f1 knowledge
but if thats what u think 🤷♂️
what dont u understnad?
and im not talking js abt here
Basically nothing of your response since I wasn't talking about you
^^
oh mb u responded right underneath mine 🤷♂️
look at me man against everyone and still haven’t lost, inspirational man
^ beautiful reaction
thats where i get my inspirationalness from, lance stroll, bro has his own reaction
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Buonasera e grazie per avermi accettato
Ho un grosso problema ho finito le monete come posso fare?
Stroll just isn’t good enough for F1. It’s not hate it’s just facts. He’s only finished ahead of his teammate once since 2017. That was Sergey Sirotkin in 2018.
hes had perez, alonso and vettel as his tm8s???
And Massa.
But he’s obtained like 50% less points compared to his teammates. That’s not good enough.
Looks like Ferrari is going blue in Miami 😅 So weird
the blue they are going w looks like a nice type of blue though
What do you guys think about this rumour ?
He looks like he could be 12.
I would say he needs to finish his F2 season off first. Albon has crashed more than Sargeant this season?
I hope not. And why a special livery for there?
Apparently it’s because they’ve signed a title partnership with HP now.
Scuderia Ferrari HP 😆
Shame it doesn’t stand for Horsepower.
As embarrassing that is, I’ll still pick Albon as Logan will yes finish the race but that will always be in the back
Of course. I don’t rate Sargeant but Antonelli hasn’t been destroying the F2 field.
Neither has Bearman 😉
I know. But he was in a Ferrari not a Williams. One is probably a lot easier to drive
True that
I guess itll come down to how much money Merc will give Williams 😂
So dumb theirs jr teams in f1. What is this little league
Totally replace, and not just an FP1 stint 😳?? wow.
Source: crash.net..... How to S"Troll" 🤣
but even 12 isn't enough.. I'd like to see points to 15 if you first want to change it..
Wow Legendary commentator...
Good point. Thought I think it would be fair to add that they must absolutely finish the race, at least (and not a DNF).
The thing is to make the mid to low drivers & teams visible, so perhaps 15 could help sort out that better, instead of them just being applied the tie-braking rules, amongst the whole lot of 0's...
Makes sense to award points for all positions. Only zeroes for unreliability and crashes and such. That way, there is a clear pecking order. If Hulkenberg scores P12 continuously in 5 races and Tsunoda scores a P11 in one race and both their teams were at 0 points, then RB would be placed above Haas currently, which is not fair.
A point someone made regarding having all drivers score as long as they finish is - teams sending/keeping badly damaged, unsafe, slow cars in a race just for points.
Which is a very valid concern. If you’ve got a couple cars going into the garage for repairs, to return 10+ laps down and then a safety car comes out, how many wave arounds would be needed etc?
I altered the current season points to the proposed points system below. It doesn’t make it drastically different but it definitely makes it more interesting
Yup. That's a real concern. And that can't be sorted out by limiting the point just based on timed rules (10X%? per lap) or no. of laps down... Difficult to say that a right rule/regulations can be set to limit those cars going back into the race... 🤔🤔 since it is a GP race (not an endurance serie) amongst other race safety/integrity considerations...
(There has to be some kind of limit)
Stewards / race director would have the ultimate say I guess? But then would the car need to be checked before leaving the garage? I think that would add a lot of complexity and hassle.
I was in favour of awarding points for all until I read these points.
Exactly this. 😕😕😕 I think it will change the whole meaning of a GP race, I think, so, yep. Limiting the given points I see it as a safe and healthier way 🤔🤔
Hulk has basiclly signed for audi
Really ? Where did you see that ?
All over twitter
And crash.net
Thanks … I’ll have a read 😉
So, this basically leaves Sainz to choose 2025 between being at Mercedes, or being at Sauber, and later Audi, or sticking to Mercedes from next year on... 🤔🤔
I guess this will mean Bearman drive with Haas next year almost being confirmed too, perhaps... 🤔
Seems like it. Although I fail to see Sainz only going for a one year contract
Yep 😕😕
Surprise will be to see him at RedBull with Max from 2026 on, but... stranger things we had already seen... 🤔🤔🤔
Doubt it
Yep. Both Audi and RedBull options mean going somehow backwards on the grid for 2025, being that at Sauber, or Racing Bulls (in exchange with Ricciardo, perhaps). The thing is, where he wants to be at the start of 2026. Another surprise will be to see him alongside Alonso at Aston Martin... 🤣🙄🤔🤔 there are not that many options for a competitive car left, in fact... 🙁🙁🙁
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Hulk going to Audi is a no brainier. Would Sainz want to go to Merc in their current state anyway?
Probably not, unless merc is building something really good behind the scenes. Sainz is good at judging teams performance I would say. When he moved to McLaren, that team was in a good spot of catching in terms of performance, and it's the same thing when he moved to Ferrari.
Sainz to Aston along with Alonso will be cool. Although “I’m not here because of my father” has a permanent contract and has to realize he’s not for F1 and leave for something else first
Stroll should join Demolition derby
I was reading this article on the F1 app and thinking to myself that Lance Stroll would be an awesome 3rd driver.
The guy that puts hundreds of hours in simulators and also has laps on tracks (with nobody around)
I just feel his time on track, around 19 other drivers is not valuable to Aston Martin.
Not sure if its the lighting but not bad 😁
wow adrian newey leaving
Adrian Newey is set to leave Red Bull according to our sources. We expect him to announce his decision soon. More on the exit date and who might get his service in the future in our AMuS story:
wonder where he’ll go
Please be Aston Martin !!! Pretty please 🙏🏼… Alonso needs him 😁
sauber then audi
I’ve just read the rumour and it was also taking about McLaren … so at this point who knows 🤷🏼♂️
would also be possible
I won't discard him leaving F-1 all in all... and go for other prospects/projects/interests...
Difficult one, yep, but perhaps given a choice, between 2025 Sauber, RB, Mercedes, and sabbatical (?) mmm, could be not that bad idea to go into Merc for a season in advance, to actually acknowledge them from the inside and get the grips of it sooner... just as kumagai has said 🤔🤔🤔 potentially, I see it as the less worse option going into 2026... But. Most probably he will take his time to decide, and for instance, see how client Ferrari's Sauber & Haas performs through the circuits respectively, too, knowing that almost every manufacturer is starting from scratch when they first hit 2026 shakedowns on circuit...
All this is, of course, discarding Aston Martin...
yess i would love that
Hey guys im new into F1 and I am looking for that answer what is Stroll doing in F1
His dad owns the team and he’s a billionaire so it doesn’t bother him how much money they lose from the constructors championship.
does anyone still watch F1 2021
Hulk to leave haas at end of 2024 and to join kick sauber (audi) in 2025
yes
Definitely the most known secret ever 😆
Yeah, just shared cause it was officially released now
Yeah. It’s good for Hulk and Audi. Experienced German driver. Now they either need a good young talent or Sainz.
I cant see Sainz at Merc due to contract length.
Hulk out of Haas means 🐻 man is almost guaranteed
(Audi) At least, have one talent ready to show up and point out rightly at the FP1's...
One year at merc and then maybe redbull may wanna new driver for new regulations? If he dont go to audi could be possible scenario
I don’t think RBR would want Verstappen/Sainz if Perez continues on as he is now. Ricciardo out for Lawson and then Lawson replaces Perez in a few years?
I think Merc would rather throw Antonelli in than Sainz for a year? There would be no benefit having Sainz for one year but you can grow Antonelli a lot in that time.
Especially if Antonelli is replacing Sargeant at Imola 😂
What a wild time we live in
Indeed 🤔🤔🤔 I'd be surprised (but not unexpected) if Sainz finally decides to take a sabbatical year. Perhaps that 'ludicrous offer' Marco referred meant that it included that year completely buyout for Sainz too, from Audi's side...
He’s replacing him at Imola ?
Antonelli in for a year in the old regulations will massively help
Rumours are it will happen.
Hope so. This grid needs a shake up and Sargeant has had his chance imo.
💪
If Kimi Antonelli liked that post… does it mean it’s more than just a rumour?
More than, yep... but... I think it sounds safe to say that they may wait to have all 3 chassis available first & ready to run, lest they again are left with only one car to drive... 🫥🫥🫥
Maybe he likes a good meme 😂

🤨🤨🤔🤔 by any chance, is that a hint to 'The Incredible' (Hulk)?? 😆😅🙄🙄
So that's why it's green
Yep, and not just because of Stake's corporate colour... 🙂🙂

The 80s will be back in 60 years
WÆH 🔥🔥🔥
Guys is max gonna go away by Red Bull or is he staying
its conditional, if marko departs/ jos has max leave the team, then he could leave
otherwise theres no reason for him to leave
Yea but in 2026 is there a new rule is he going to mersedus
he could, but thats also conditional
I think Sainz maybe go to Mercedes because is a mistery the new contrat of Pérez

Dududu max versstapen

Idt sainz will go to mercedes
There is no benefit in going there since it'll only be a 1 year contract


Hard to know but we know Max has dominated more than Hamilton, when Hamilton had a dominant car for years. At the same time, Max has never had a teammate that has pushed him these past 3 to 4 years like Hamilton has so I would say hard to know.
Hamilton has still won more

Max would had won just as much in the same car with the same teammates. So would Alonso. And others as well. So that argument is weak.
I don’t recall Red Bull lapping opponents in top 10 yet 😂
Who pushed him? Bottas ? 😂
Interesting... I'm wondering who will come out on top if all of them have to drive with the same car, my bet will still on max due to his currenttly domination and unchalanging skill? but who would be on second third? Tough question... 🤔
I think Bottas and Perez both pushed both of them Hamilton and max further, my perspective is perhaps Bottas contributed even more than Perez did to max
Nico. And didn’t Bottas take poles off of Hamilton and even race wins when Hamilton didn’t have an issue? Lol
I think most would agree Perez is a better driver than Bottas tho.
^^^
They're both great drivers. The difference is that LH is used to have the top 1-2 car every season and now that he doesn't is struggling to adapt
However, George and Max have used a bottom 4 car at least once in their career so they have that experience under their belt and can adapt their driving style depending on how drivable the car is
😳 Sauber 😳
Does that include bottas
I heard alexander Hamilton is retiring? Is this true?
I mean I've googled it but I wanna make sure...
He started racing when I was alot younger...maybe 13....I was in middle school and I watched nearly every race for 6 years. He's had good races then he's had bad races. But he's my hero ngl. Helped through a lot of bad times. If he retires, imma be sad to see him go, but he's had one helluva career.
Good point of discussion 👆🏻👆🏻.
I agree with that impression, though perhaps how currently RedBull -and quite most other teams too, if not every team- is set, there's a clear 'race as a team spirit', and in RBR in particular, a clear n.1 and n.2 driver. So, in that sense that counts into consideration too. The years really Hamilton struggled for not having a top 3 car, I recall perhaps first half of 2013, and due to challenge from teammate, the 2016? (that Barcelona tangle) and the year Nico won the title (can't recall now which one was). Bottas, although he took the challenge to some extent after taking the place of Rosberg, it really didn't get that edge to really push Hamilton to struggle hard, as Rosberg did, regularly, and except for some short period of times... Max, in comparison, I really struggle to see when he had the same status inside the team against the teammate, after the year they both Ricciardo and him clashed at Sochi? was? (or was it Baku?) and the part off of Ricciardo. No one has challenged him -and will never let that happen, unless it is a 'young talent'(from RedBull junior or not) coming for a generational change-... sadly.
It will be almost impossible to see 2 top drivers in their respective prime / peak performances (age trim included) fighting in a same F1 Team... Maybe in the future, and taking the example of the FIM Bikes Championship Liberty own now, this status quo could change (who knows?) and may see an intra team battle of young talents in a top team... The one I recall the most, in my case, Kimi, Montoya, and Montoya, Ralph... as an example, back in the day...
He's a talented driver. He's deserves his ride imo
Hm I dont think LH better than max. Hammy is great... but what I admire max is his not only great at real racing, he is etremely good at sim racing in the same time, actually he had beat so many pro sim drivers... Which proved that he can adopts any types of racing without any big issues which is very impressive! And Hamilton never prove his talent outside of F1 field. But one thing I don't like is max temper, he sometime being too aggressive, when he bumping or crashing into other cars, he rather blaming on others than himself. I never doubt Hamilton talent but I just never find his talent outside of F1 tho, to me Hamilton seems to have more patience and little bit more composed I'm not sure...
Max from last years is a lot calmer and more composed than his early years. Right now he is quite cautious at times, knows he can dominate and waits a for a better opportunity to overtake with less risks.
It’s a myth that Hamilton isn’t aggressive or is clean - just check him especially at a young age.
Perhaps talent wise, and skill set (?) they're quite similar, although they're now in two different ages and carrer moments, and that may give both drivers an edge over the other in different situations... It'll be very interesting to see if Ferrari car in 2025 helps Hamilton getting out of his struggle, and show again that genius without being that fragile... that could be a good thing for him and for the '26 season... In any case, and as it currently is, I see it is still Max the one to beat, though I'm not really sure if he's still that good at wheel to wheel racing, and overall racecraft, until he's challenged close & hard regularly by more than a driver at a time at every race... That remains to be seen, in my opinion... 🤔🤔🤔
Regards sim racing, I'm not that sure if neither Hamilton or Rosberg, for instance, are keen to do or have the appeal for them to go ahead to, as Verstappen, after having that lengthy racing carrer which had F1 as their final peak 🗻 to climb... Perhaps as a hobby, why not, but wanting to be competitive again at that too, I'm not sure... I think that only depends on each one's personal likes/preferences, and desires, and not a matter of having talent or not...
Newey leaving RB is official now. Crazy how Horner single handidly is ruining the team 😅 Feels like someone with sense would step back and end this power struggle instead of standing his ground and making the team worse for more power, and probably money, for himself.
Hm. I think in any case, and just by reading his statement, it was about time to, I think. Internal power struggles were just a symptom of it, in the bigger picture... It will be a real surprise for me if he engages in a certain - as an example consultant? or supervisor role at Ferrari... But just as an F1 follower/fan that will be quite interesting too... 🙂
Imagine if he wins too in a sailing America's Cup, for example!! That will be really amazing, honestly... 🥳🥳🥳
At least he’s not going anywhere for now
As per his contract he can’t join until his contract is over as well as gardening leave. So basically until 2027 he can’t join any other f1 team
Surely he’d just retire at that point
That’s in his statement
Is it? Everywhere else is reporting he's left the F1 team effective immediately but working on the supercar until Q1 of 2025, no gardening leave. Negotiated an early release from his contract.
He’s leaving in q1 2015 the f1 team
Respectully, I don't think you're right: "Oracle Red Bull Racing today announces that Chief Technical Officer Adrian Newey will leave the Red Bull Technology Group in the first quarter of 2025."
It seems he's gone completely in Q1 of 2025 from Red Bull as a whole
"The engineering supremo will step back from Formula One design duties to focus on final development and delivery of Red Bull’s first hypercar, the hugely anticipated RB17. He will remain involved in and committed to this exciting project until its completion. "
Think you've got your wires crossed Onyx
It's literally on Red Bull's statement I'm copying to you 😄
And same as I am 😂
The way I read it is, he's stepping away from the F1 part(but still attending races in a non-official capacity) but going straight to the hypercar project.
It’s possible. However I still don’t believe they will let him go that easily for another team without a gardening leave
And yes, I might be misreading it
He's a free agent after Q1 2025
Oh noes! I've fallen behind F1 news for 2 days - what have I missed
Hey Ferrari fans … what do you think about the special livery for Miami ?
I personally would’ve liked a bit more blue…
I think the blue seems out of place
ugly af
Not that special. Thought it would be a lot more of a change from the standard one
didnt they share a completely different special livery some days ago?
Was it official? I thought that was fan made with full blue
good, I hated it! haha
At first I understood he was staying at RedBull Company (not RBRacing, which is the F1 team we all know) after Q1 of 2025, until the total completion of RB 17. But that was as it was read at the first brief headline at F1.com, with the release of his statement.
Now in that RedBull's official statement, I see he's really leaving the whole RedBull Technologies Group, with whom he has his working commitments. 👌🏻👆🏻
I thought HP sponsored Mclaren
Perhaps a verbal (?) or other type of agreement/compromise/decision from his side, to not join any F1 team as an exchange for getting his freedom? for example... Not everything I guess must have to be written at this point, given their very long and loyal relationship between them...
A good release & break out now, from that whole car & racing world I think is not bad for him...
I'm with Deus here, it's just meh... 🙁 Can't see any 'special' thing there, rather than a new livery in accordance to fit their new partner . \ I really expected -at least for the Miami, and other US venues, if successful amongst followers??- a really special livery... So yep. A bit disappointed... 😕😕
But for me is OK. At least from that angle 😅😅😁😁
Better angle? I just don't like the light blue (grey!). They should've sticked to one HP blue..
😅🤣 To be honest 🤣😆 after seeing for the first time that Google coloured wheels, with that multicoloured orange & black McLaren, and once getting used to it 😅😅 I'm already made my eyes & mind to see these kind of coloured schemes as liveries 🙂🙂
The one that I still can't see with good eyes 😆🙏🏻🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🫣🫣 is that Earth 🌍 on white coloured BAR Honda Racing 🫣🫣🫣🫣
That looked for me like a kindergarten car for kids... 😖😖😞😓
Found it. It is a scaled model, but still 😪
http://www.racingmodels.com/honda-f1-ra108-earthdreams-rubens-barrichello-2008-143-6656-p.asp
The Honda RA108 as raced in 2008 by Rubens Barrichello. A superb model.
Im still shocked they signed with HP, like why? Plus if the car was fully blue jt would be cooler like everyone was saying
But, it looks igh
Hola
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