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Max is dominating 💀
Max's lead
Hoping Saunz will take that 2nd place
Sainz: when will hards be faster than soft
Ferrari: this lap
Perez: continues pulling ahead by .300
🤣🤣🤣🤣
True
Ferrari strategy strikes again
For the first time ever
LETS GOOO
TBF though checo must have done some seriously good tyre management
100%
Albon got lapped 🫠
Grats
I dont complain on mine team
TSU screwing the team here
Ikr
He is
LOL
Ricciardo desserves better
frfr
Ye I mean he might be a lap ahead. But that won't stop me from seeing Ricardo physically Infront
expected more from RB's tho
Ye
Delulu master
What lap is it now?
3 more laps to go
yep
Honestly I was hoping there would be a stronger fight between Merc, Ferrari and red bull at the front. And Aston, McLaren and rb in mid
Naw cmon
u srs?
Lol TSU 😅 Had he let RIC by right away then maybe he had got MAG before Max lapped them.
if he didn't take the pole
Sargeant is few laps behind I cant
The two bulls are just dominating
he would've had a smaller gap
I mean like heading into start of season
yeahh
but
sainz
errari giving good fight
"Max's perfect season"
bahahah
Tsunoda not a happy camper
I just pretend he doesn't exist
Logan is that one kid that had to tie his shoelaces
LMAO
Sainz Vs Perez and Leclerc Vs Russell
U pretend he doens't exist and 2nd position is actually enjouable
Ye
I an't I love him alot ngl
🤣
2 laps 3.7 gap, unlucky sainz
yee
He's grumpy about losing 13th place 😂
This is sending me lmaooo
Let him race
He should've moved out the way sooner
I mean would u if u were tsu
3.3
Tsunoda and Ricardo will let the fists speak I tell you
LAST 2 LAPS
Man doesn't want to be second fiddle to ric
Sainz last year in Ferrari
Surely, sainz I believe
I think he is going to aston
The height difference gonna be a major factor….
ZHO maybe
I'm just saying, it would make the season much more interesting
That would smooth operation
Tsunoda will stand on a car
ye nvm
ONG
but he's just overtaking everyone 😭
Hello, Where can I watch f1 for free?
FINAL LAP
Impossible things man
Astro💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Tsu being short is tactical decision, shorter person, usually less weight and lower cog
Bro just get watch it on f1 official
Purely strategic 🤣
Tictok
In all honesty, this WAS NOT THE GREATEST OF RACEs
pls ZHO crash into verstappen
duh cuz max
w/o max it was alright
That's being generous 😂
PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
2.9
Really hope norris holds on to 6th
22.9
Sainz isn't closing that
ez
Ended
Unlucky
Yeah but atleast podium for my man definitely deserved
Unfortunately
Honestly Ferrari were off by a few laps with strat
I'm so glad I spent my afternoon watching that 😴
perez gg
it is 0:36 in my time
Sainz awesome performance
Let's go Perez!!
Ye, imagine if Ferrari turned around and said "slow down. Give position to leclerc"
it's 8:36 in bahrain here
As a Ferrari fan for forever I would not be their fan anymore
Vertappen and radio guys arent even excited anymore, they knew before It started
That’s just downright wrong
I agree
They already did wrong to him by kicking him out before the season started
Pretty sure they did something similar last year
Where sainz was faster but they told him to let leclerc past
Nah they didn’t trust me
Not for podium though. It was sort of in the mid of laps
90% sure they did
Maybe it's a 24/24 wins for the red bull
Logan got max 2 laps left
They were pitting Sainz
🥱
Dotd Smoooooth Operatoooor
Oh ye, and leclerc took way too long executing
Yeah
Logan got a track for himself
U right u right, my bad
the speed was awesome
VERY
I an so glad I spent my afternoon watching such an exhilarating race, I did not expect max P1, checo P2, sainz P3. Definitely not...
Which one was your team?
Always
10 drivers havent even done all 57 laps
I’m kidding you’re probably higher than me in point by a little
SMOOOOOOOOTH OPERRRRATOOOORRRRR
Saudi P2 I believe
SMOOOOOTH OPERATORRRRR
Lmao where’s verstappen
What the hell is that?
And what team is Perez on
No I get it but which team is Perez on
Who?
This is the standings without taking into account Max
Yeah but Perez is there
A man of culture I see
Which team he on
Red Bull Racing? 😄
OMG SO MUCH DENIAL
P2, at 25 points?
Then why ain’t it on the construction list
Perez is just a 1 man team, I don't know what you guys are talking about
Oh lol didn’t see that
Got used to seing them on top I see
CARLOS!!! CARLOS!!! CARLOS!!! CARLOS!!!
Ah yes, The Dutch anthem
To be honest I kinda missed it
Me too
Did Max get DOTD?
I love how unsuprised the comentators are about Max
Same we’ll get it trust
I hope so
No, it was Sainz
WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO CHEERS FOR CARLOS
Can Ferrari cancel hamiltons contract? 😇😇😇
Ah that sucks.
😇
The contract they should cancel is Charles'
Nah I don’t advocate for that there’s a reason he’s in Ferrari
Jules Bianchi @young parrot
They are doing right by Charles
He had to do the same for the team
That’s why I said cancel hamiltons contract
He’s old anyway
True
Sainz is young and has potential
I never liked him, his prime is gone
I swear I’ll hate Fred if he made the decision
A lot
He’s a good person I won’t lie but I don’t see him in red and don’t have trust in him leading Ferrari
Mhm
(As a Ferrari fan) Sure…. 😅😅😅😅
Perez Redbull. Sure. Not max 😂
Not gonna happen
I will keep these standings up 😂
Don't forget to add max in the constructor championship standing
Max will finish P1 and P2 in the constructors 😂
W race today guys?
I'm excluding him from both
3x is a boost you can use twice per season
twice?
Each chip can only be used once during the season and you can only use one per race, so choose carefully.
Who supports Red Bull
Me since 2016 when I was 12 and started watching F1
I believe they reset mid season? At least used to
Kimi is the most badass driver in my opinion and that will never change

They didn’t reset last year and don’t believe they will this year either
That’s why they need to be used wisely 😏
When’s the next race ?
sa
?
next saturday in jeddah
what time
Dépends on where you are from I guess 😅
No joke, same time as today’s race + 2h
Do you get the x2 for the chosen driver on the constructors team as well? Like x2 and x2 if you have the constructor of the driver you x2'ed?
POLE POLE
No you don’t
I was just blown away checking the scores now and seeing how much points RB got. Despite them getting a 1-2 I wasn't expecting that and def learned sth 😅
unaenda safari ?
and wait for Kimi Antonelli... 😉
forza ferrari
trying to shift attention away... nothing major
leclerc can fight perez if the car doesn't have problem
Well, fighting for 2nd (or 3rd as carlos seems to be doing great with the car) isn't really a purpouse for ferrari, but it is what it is
Driver switch when the race was almost over is crazy
Lec has to fight Sainz first
Go to bed kid, should be in bed at this hour
<@&649310279968096308>
Your cooked
2025: lec vs LH44
He might lose to Sainz too this year. And if Ham destroys him as well - he's done 😄
Sainz was the only ferrai driver to win last year so..
<@&649310279968096308> Please remove this child thank you
Thank you <@&649310279968096308>
Somebody called it, everybody saw it
That driver swap was so stupid
And Yuki’s diverbomb after the race wasn’t ?
Yuki completely wiped off the whole prospect of him going to RBR and following orders if needed
Yeah yuki had the speed I don’t know why they thought Daniel with a slower race pace would catch him ( Ricciardo is one of my favs )
Another dutch win

@barren patio bro what you you have against the Dutch bro
🤣🤣🤣
both actions were stupid
by the driver swap was the last straw for yuki
he only got passed because they kept pitting him at the wrong time (basically letting other teams undercut him)
I just couldn't see how daniel would of catch kmag with old softs
Max won the the first race
Bahrain 🇧🇭 grand pic I am in finals any how can I finish in top 3
For anyone who wants to see the gap in first person pov
Who would win in Saudi GP?
Wonder wonder?
Y’all help last night my family was arguing about Max😭
😳😳😳
Checo started lower
I was more impressed by the consistency in times in first sector
8 laps with basically identical times, within a few hundreds
When is a new season coming in game
Wrong channel. Also 🔎
But why. Nothing to argue about
Did i got hacked for enter my email for f1 notification ?
@dapper wagon Its honestly pretty complicated what is the next move for jeddah to maximize budget gains
A few ideas Ive had is ricciardo --> stroll albon --> sargeant.
Then I could do perez --> sainz ricciardo --> stroll
Or ricciardo --> stroll
Tsunoda --> magnussen
I think vcarb assets dont have as much value in them as we expected. They are gonna likely qualify in the range of 11-14 and then there is not much for them to gain from the races
Or ricciardo --> stroll
Tsunoda --> magnussen
This is probabl ymy favorit transfers atm
I’ll be honest, I’m confused by some of the value changes.
Somehow Ocon got +0.5?! I have no idea how 😂 while others who did ok got -0.1
S2 is scary. Others basically driving same pace and max jusf … yeah. And it’s “the car only” 😂
My worry with Albon and Sargeant is the Merc overheating issue and their issues with the steering wheel. Could easily DNF. Plus, Sargeant will probably crash at Jeddah 😆
I guess Maxs sectors are from his soft tyre lap?
All should be from soft
Sainz for instance ran softs at the start then Hards x2 while Max had softs on at the end with low fuel. Redbull still fastest but a little offset?
Still, fresh softs, low fuel and all the battery will be a huge benefit over Sainz on Hards who probably had little battery.
MaxBull is ridiculous but I’d like to see a more representative set of sectors withmore equal tyres and fuel
Yes. Battery. Yes. Sainz. Fantasy. Formula One'ing.
(I'm a Fantasy noob trying to act like I understand your pro stats!)
I’ve been doing fantasy for years and still can’t understand the logic of Ocon gaining .5m for doing nothing
I didn't pay much attention to him but maybe since he did better than Gasly who is still highly regarded by some. Idk 😅
@dapper wagon You ever placed high in total ranking?
My highest was 1.1k
That's good! 4 digits or lower in games like these has to be regarded as elite.
Y'all think Sainz might have a chance at RedBull if he wanted to?
They just need a consistent 2nd driver
No idea. Ocon started p19 and finished p17. Gasly started p20 and finished p18 following him. How they can give Ocon .5 and Gasly -.1 just doesn’t make sense
Yeah I was chuffed with that one. It was a lucky season for choices, I had no DNFs or major points loses.
Hard to say. I think he would be slightly better than Perez. But maybe not enough to change too much?
He won’t challenge Max. I honestly don’t think anyone can, he’s a different level. Finding a good #2 driver is hard. They have to accept they won’t be a champion even in the best car.
If it's one thing I think I'm fairly good at, it's judging drivers. My thought when Sainz had left RB fam and Gasly and Albon were struggling I felt it was ironic that Sainz had left that org since he felt like the one that would've suited that car best after Max.
But idk if RB want a too strong driver next to Max. Bet they are pretty happy with how things look now.
Redbull has such a good race car and top speed advantage that even if Perez starts P10 he should get to P2.. that’s all they need without the headache of a Hamilton/Rosberg. They need a Hamilton/Bottas
I’m not sure any of the current drivers truly believe they could beat Max in the same car. So the “top” drivers wouldn’t go there.
Ham could possibly do it
(and you know I'm not his fan) 😄 But other guys? Nah.
Charles - too inconsistent currently. He will be demotivated easily
Carlos - he wants a seat earlier. I doubt he can wait for RB to decide.
Karen - nah.
Lando - he could, but he prefers to stay in McLaren and be the "leader". If he goes to RB - he will definitely not challenge Max for quite some time.
Oscar - not enough experience yet.
Ric - he'll be a good Bottas 😄 Better than Checo? Not sure. But he can be more consistent
Yuki - no way 😄 Checo would be better
I'm curious to see what Merc pull for next year though. That will be fun
Realistically for Carlos - he has 2 options. Aston and Merc
Good summary @heady sonnet ! And @dapper wagon it would have to be a driver who can live with not beating Max, even tho noone on the grid would admit that openly.
I think the highest regarded driver they could get would be Lando since he just wanna win a race at this point basically. If McLaren can't deliver better than the occasional podium. Tho that wouldn't be a sure thing either considering we've only seen him in one car. A car that suits him but didn't suit RB-Danny..
The community is guessing the pick % has some kind of effect on it
Nando to red bull would be fun to see haha
I want him there. That will make RB For me even better 😄
I think he would compete with max despite his age
He can. But even now he's careful and simply helps Stroll. I doubt he'll seriously challenge Max
I think clear thing is that vcarb didnt have as much value as we thought and alpine and haas drivers suddenly dont seem so bad anymore
And not because he can't - because he's a different driver now and just drives for fun
What do you think would happen if he didn't help the team owners son
Same if he doesn't listen in RBR 😄
Im honestly considering changing tsunoda to gasly. If they again dont make it to Q2 but have decent race pace like yesterday, they seem very good fantasy asset
and if ocon got + 0.5 with the drive yesterday, gasly must be close to getting one with decent result
I had Ocon in my first draft since I figured he would do better in races than Q's. He to me feels like a more stable choice than Gasly who often seems to forget there are other drivers next to him at the starts 😅 Gasly is more streaky tho and can shock with a podium once a season or so.
Does anybody know if the overheating issue was effecting aston martin? dont they use mercedes engine aswell?
Smart thoughts! I didnt think at all to pick alpine as I expected them to be slow in race too but they did seem alright yesterday. And budget drivers seem to be scoring between 0-10 this season so 6 and 7 definitely were good results from them
Don't think it was, it wasn't particularly hot during the race it's down to how the team set the cooling up for that race
I think my transfers main focus for jeddah is to get rid of tsunoda and ricciardo, they qualify awkward position on the grid, are not fast enough in race to challenge AM, better chance to get scores from alpine and haas
Yeah in jeddah there will be hot, merc and williams drivers are scary to pick....
Probably won't be an issue as they know it's hot probably running maximum cooling
I'd bet on Haas
Agree. Alpine starting last isn’t necessarily a bad thing even if they only pick up places from DNF or cars having accidents. It’s a “safe” bet for them to at least gain points every race.
Like you say, RB is too risky. Not good enough to make the leap up from their qualifying position. Lots of luck needed.
Hulk is a no go because he’s so good in Qualifying he’s only going backwards in a race.
Another plan Ive seen from perez 2x players is that they move to the cheaper driver this week already, in plan to move to verstappen for australia
But I am not positive if we will ever have budget for verstappen for race 3. specially after the minus vcarb took last race
You got a win with Zhou while I got a big L with Bottas. I’m at the same value as before the season. So I can’t make many moves
I think I will go for value and when I see I have enough budget for ver rbr and ferrari with cheapest budget drivers, I just use wildcard
Sounds the best plan in my opinnion

My value is 100.7 million now, 1.6m away from verstappen
But I think I want to gain some more money before I go for verstappen, I dont want to stuck myself with hulkenberg as budget driver
Yeah, you’re looking ok for Max early as long as you don’t have any bad races. Pray to the RNG gods 😂
I’m thinking RIC-TSU out for SAR-MAG
This is probably more likely lineup
could you afford gasly magnussen?
With only 2 moves a week, got to plan in advance
I would never dare putting Sargeant in my team 😅
Probably
Ver 2x and the consturctors carry your team at that point. THen you just need to hope the budget drivers drive their car until finish line
Or be ready to use the wildcard chip early on
PER-GAS-MAG-ALB-BOT with 3.9m left.
Biggest shock for me as a new player was how many points RB could get as a constructor. Def learned sth there.
Risky. But got to make the money 😆
This website is lifesaver
Redbull avaraged almost 84 points as consturctor last year
Yup. That’s why I could only see RBR-FER for constructors with the option of swapping FER for MERC. Drivers don’t make enough of their own. Excluding max off course 😂
It’s fantastic site.
Hve you checked the patreon additional features? I am thinking to get them just to support them
Ah yeah saw that site in a video and it predicted 30p+ more for my team than I got 😅
It’s all luck 😆 one crash and it’s all over no matter.
I haven’t looked tbh
I chose BOT over ZHOU because in general he’s better. I got unlucky this week.
@dapper wagon Might also be that BOT has seen his best days while ZHO has grown. Guess we'll see.
Didnt zhou absolutely beast bottas in fantasy points last year?
6.1 avarage over season vs bottas 2.0
I guess because Zhou Qs worse he gains more.
Yep and he was superior overtaker last season
Im sad I didnt check my global placement last season, but also I wasted my chips last season it was probably not so good
I know it’s really absurd theory
But max and Newey to Merc ? Toto and max can be an absolute beast of a team
Yeah but Max is with Red Bull till 2028 so he might never be part of Mercedes cause he has his retirement plans in place
If he has a "No Horner" exit clause it's not impossible
🙄🤨🤔🙄 Max & Newey going out to Mercedes, because of Horner staying at RedBull 😳? 🙄😐 Max (with or without Josh) maybe, but Newey... I highly doubt it...
Regards drivers, everything is possible, in my opinion...
Jos wants Horner out
Yup. But I mean, Newey.
Newey has the same clause afaik 😄
Newey to Ferrari with Hamilton ?
Adrian Newey doesn't want Horner too? Surprised... but oh. Yes, I see Newey more at Ferrari, perhaps.
If that the case, I rather see Horner himself leaving RedBull at the end of the season, perhaps...
I can’t see it myself, but I’d love to as a Ferrari fan 😂
Horner stepped on someone's toes pretty badly. They want him out. I doubt he can get out of it easily.
He might be collateral damage, but it'll be extremely hard for him to get out of this. People are out for blood. And he's an easy target, despite public appearance
Yup. A really bad move that was, indeed... (C Horner, I mean)
I hope he does escape this one. Mostly just because it will make a lot of people mad 😂
In all honesty if he did something wrong he should be held accountable. But if it’s a witch hunt because he angered some people I hope he beats this
Maybe a public comment from both parties to settle the things down, may be a good solution, if the complainant is really convinced about it...
If it's not that the case... mm I just hope things do not get worse by she deciding to go on the public court way... But it can perfectly go that way, in the worst scenario...
I would love to see this :
- Horner out of RB end of 2024
-Stroll lines up the $$$ and gets Horner as team principal of Aston Martin for 2025 - in 2026 Honda starts working with AM
- 2027 AM and Horner wins the Constructor 🤩
What drivers though? Stroll can’t cut it
Sainz and Drugovich … by then Lance will have retire 😉
Lance going ATP tour 😄
Drugovich yeah, Sainz? Old man by then 😆
He will be 32 in 2027 … that’s an old man ? Jeez then what am I ? Closing in on 50 😅
You know what I mean 😂
In any case, there sure might be some changes coming from now on, and into next 2025 season...
Wonder where will Pérez, Sainz, and maybe Alonso going...
Need someone fresher I think.
Right!! That's very true indeed.
I wonder if an 11th team could’ve helped get some new faces in the world of F1 🤔
Shame isn’t it.
Yup
Too much young talent gets wasted.
Yeah i mean your not wrong
That’s right as a only Ferrari fan, everybody is a Ferrari fan
😁
Why is everyone talking about Horner out of RedBull? I thought he was cleared?
i heard that Max's dad wants him out
Max’s dad wants max to leave red bull?
Yeah pretty sure nobody cares what Max’s dad wants. Max ain’t leaving RedBull until the cars not competitive.
I mean Max is a grown man he can make decisions for himself
Picture this Max Verstappen driving alongside Fernando Alonso in the Red Bull team
Jos has come out and basically said RB will explode if Horner stays where he is. All stems back to Horner and Marko falling out. Jos and Max have a lot of power in that team, certainly makes it harder for Horner
My issue is why have RB been so secretive about it all? Normally you get a bit of information rather than leaving it all to speculation. And Horner himself not saying the messages are fake. If they are, why not just say so?
If those messages are real, unless there are some messages we haven't seen that Jos for some reason have seen, I don't see why Horner should have to leave the team. Would be a very exagerated case of #meetoo.
The whole Jos thing is just weird to me and he doesn't seem like someone who should be super woke like this.
Which teams will benefit more out of the Jeddah circuit? McLaren ? Too many high speed corners.
McLaren had very bad top speed at Bahrain (possibly the slowest?) so I don’t think they’ll do too well.
They might be very good in high speed but will be a sitting duck in the DRS zone.
I think Merc will struggle even more with the overheating issue.
Jos who has a reputation as a wife beater, who noone would be shocked if he cheated in the past, is virtue signaling like crazy if those reports are true. Either cuz he knows he is a bad person himself in these regards and want to shift focus from himself, or/and since he wants to show people he's changed. Seen this before irl.
Idc if Horner stays or not, but we need to see some more evidence to justify him being forced out. Like if she had told him to stop and he threatened her job due to it. Cheating isn't OK to me but should someone lose their job over it? Has to be more to this story to justify the levels of talk we are seeing imo.
I got slight heartattack today when I opened the F1 fantasy front page and I saw only "Chip used" 😂 I thought I have used some by mistake
Al-Pain
Oscar Piastri and Fernando both licking their lips
And Ottmar!
I haven't seen the actual messages and don't really care either way. Jos can't really talk, just interesting what he's said.
My issue is, if there's nothing dodgy gone on then why be so secretive about it? Just come out and be open. The fact it's been tried to be all hushed up makes people think there's more to it.
At least Christian can breath a bit easier today with that news 😅
Probably him that leaked it to take the heat off 😂
I see one future where this happens, he goes to alpine
The counter strike to take attention away from Horner
Wins from back row every race 🤣
nah thats impossible with the car as it is...
I know, that's kind of the joke
no way the car competes with merc or ferrari leave alone redbull even if the driver is crazzyyyyy
yeah i know but just saying realistically it wont happen
Christian hornier
who's the best in saudi arabia? for me it's the checo who's the best
checo is winner in saudi arabia
for three seconds i thought it was mika 💀
Eh he only won last year cuz max started I think like 10th lol
Who’s going the the Miami Grand Prix??
me(maybe)
Where you from?
canada
I’m probably gonna go to it
Wanted to go to the Las Vegas GP last year but it was too far
That’s tuff
Where you from?
i've always wanted to go to florida though
Florida is tuff, especially Miami.
CT, USA
Miami is closer to me
and my best friend lives in Florida so might as well drag him with me to the Miami Grand Prix
Only issue is that my final exams are during the week following
(im a university student)
Damn, you can’t take them early?
nah
That sucks
True
I've always wanted to see Monaco or Zandavoort but I can't due to international travels
Go to the Texas one, I went in 2012. It’s packed with people but it’s fun to go
Seriously - what’s with the ramping speculation about max to Merc ?
I’d love to see a Toto Newey max combo but still.
Didn’t you hear ?
• Horner stays at RB
• Newey and Marko leave RB
• Max to Mercedes
• Alonso to RB and wins his 3rd Championship in 2025 before
new rules kick in
• Hamilton regrets his move to Ferrari
All of this is happening 😂🤣
I heard but ... Why 😄
Why ? Because it’ll be the best ever DTS season … Netflix pulling all the strings 😅
Max to Merc will be quite a move
Can definitely dwarf Ham to Ferrari 😄
Thinking about it - I actually don't think it's out of the question
Max hasn't showed (yet at least) the desire to win 6-7-8-9-whatever championships
Heck, he's talked openly about retiring and that current races are too much
He might as well go to Merc and do it for the fun there also. But he would also need to get GP with him 😄
Of he wants a challenge, he should move to Alpine 😂🤣😂
Talk I've seen is that all drama stems from Horner trying to gain more power within Red Bull since Mateschitz died, while Marko and the Verstappens want things to stay as they are. Idk if true but would make sense.
Max understandably looks super loyal to Marko
It makes Horner looks like a bad character if true as well. Putting himself before the team least to say if it means that Max and maybe even Newey leaves. Feels a bit narci from Horner then.
True
But there are so wild theories going on you can’t even say what is true and what isn’t
We went from a cheating Horner to a power hungry one in less than a week 😂😂😂😂
Regardless this season feels like a filler episode while the real thing starts next year 😆
*2026
Those things are connected if so 😉 All the drama about it and the leaks etc. Would be an attempt to metoo Horner to leave, which he allegedly refused to and lawyered up.
Lewis to FER and SAI to some team tho 2025, at least.
Did you see that (allegedly) Jos has a relationship with the lady Horner was texting? 😄
Haha no, that's the craziest alleged twist so far if so 😂😂😂😂
I'll find it, it was in one of the English newspapers if I recall well 😄
If we change clan our reputation (points) resets? Or stay with us?
WAKE UP!!! THIS DAY IS PRACTICE DAY IN SAUDI GRAND PRIX!!!
What I may see from what has been reported here & there, is that Horner wants to own the team, as various other Team Principals have done in the past, and as the nearest example in Toto, who is CEO and Team Principal as well as Newey...
I really can't see (whoever the complainant is and no matter her private relationship) her being the source of the leak, for a 'meetoo' type sexual/power harassment case, since being that the case she'd better go to the public court directly, instead of giving sneaks peaks to the press, which will mean putting a shade not just on Horner, but on her, and mostly to the own team too... 🙄
So yup, I think they're trying to push Horner out and taking whatever weak point he may have, to pressure on him to leave (/resign) the team...
Not that he hasn't done anything wrong (?) but I may see that not everyone at RedBull are really comfortable in Horner somehow pushing (?) the things so that he can gain controll of the whole RBRacing... perhaps... 😕
but isn't his net worth kind of low? he would need to buy a major of the shares like toto did to be owner of Red Bull racing
I thought the thing was that she had an affair with Jos too xD before this Horner thing, but really didn't know that she indeed has xD an current relationship with him... 😬🫣 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Difficult situation coming there at RedBull, I see...
🤷♂️ 😕 Yup. Exactly how he aims to do it, I'm not sure... But as a previous step, what Horner wants is to separate RedBull Racing Team apart from their parent RedBull Gmh company... and, from RedBull Technologies too, so that they don't have to interfere in the sporting aspects of the team, as in Ferrari (they're separate companies, but owned by the same Ferrari entity & corporate) and like is currently done at Mercedes where their team works & behaves independently from the Mercedes entity, which only has a share on it...
I see there have been quite a lot of things evolving there at RBRacing, after Dieter Mateschitz passed away 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
5H and 1min
awake and watching in class lol
its on the app lol
Stroll already touching the walls at fp1
Making me nervous if I have balls to pick for fantasy or no
At least you CAN pick him 😆 The crazy instant price rises/drops I had no idea about pretty much has me stuck with what I got since all my drivers dropped in value except Max 😅
nah im going nando
but stroll did put up a very good race in Bahrain
and ... verstappen takes P1 lol
in FP1
nando overpriced
Yeah it seems if you get 7 or higher points the value of asset increases and then they add list of factors how much the increase is, pick % of driver being one
i believe he will increase even more
so im gonna put him on my team
He is on a bit awkward price range, by picking nando, either you dont get 2 strong constructors or you dont get verstappen
perez and leclerc
both are on my team with nando
rb is gonna keep dropping more and more in value
I have faith
Im not so sold on having 3 expensive drivers
When redbull constuctor alone brings more points than them alone 😅
what are you thinking on having
also why doesnt it let me continue with this team
Im either changing ricciardo and tsunoda to stroll and magnussen. Or ricciardo and tsunoda to gasly and magnussen
well also magnussen and bottas is option
How many changes you truna make?
3
Well depends on what your team was before, I wouldnt take -10 so early on
ig
My app doesn’t even let me enter fantasy there
Absolutely no clue what’s up with it
😔😔😔
Any watched f2 q just now?
nah why
what happened
hamilton underperforming imo ( though its only the start of the season )
hopefully Ferrari sees this and cancels hamiltons contract
He doesn’t really have any motivation this season
Already has a contract for next year, most likely they will exclude him from any talks about upgrades too.
its been publicly announced so this isnt realistically going to happen
its nothing like that
contracts can be broken by the driver or team at any time
like how Haas did with Nikita Mazepin
not without penalties so would have to be a big reason to cancel it
mazepins contract was also a multi year deal
The damage that would bring far outweighs the potential benefit
mazepin was garbage. lewis is a world champ
this is true im not saying that it isnt but this is a very early and good time if they want to cancel the contract
and old
im not saying hes not a good driver
fernando is also old
but sainz has more potential
and you dont see him getting his contract cancelled
but he wasnt switching teams
lewis is
But they can’t really cancel though. They will have to pay a hefty fine for it, will damage the team’s reputation and will be extremely badly taken by the fans. Why would you ever think that has even a remote possibility of happening ?
and i hate to be the one to say it but red doesnt suit him
How about potential of ferrari breaking leclercs contract and bringing sainz in if he clearly outperforms him
That would be best silly season 🤣
it probably will be taken well by the fans
no one wants to see carlos leave
🤦♂️ this is just unrealistic. it wont happen unless lewis did something major to trigger
im not saying it is realistic im just hoping it happens
Getting a 7 time world champion in the team? Really? 😂
dude theres more to ferrari than f1
and we all hope f1 cars turn into rocket ships and race in space but we all know it won't happen so isn't really worth discussing
though a lot of hamilton fans are now ferrari fans
If we change team we lose the points?
Not now but will be
... if you do more than 2 transfers in your fantasy team
Which f1 team are you on and what points ?
The clan i mean
oh
And how is it related to real f1?
I see so no game issues here
No
10x
Ferrari will go through with the HAM signing regardless how he does this season. They probably sign him just as much due to his name, kinda like how Aston kicked Perez for Vettel even tho it should be clear for anyone watching F1 then that Perez was better than Vettel.
As i said im not saying its realistic... im just hoping it happens (long shot)
but itf it does indeed not happen wish the best for sainzz hopefully he gets the RedBull seat
or an equivalent seat in a strong championship contending team
As not a fan of any certain teams I'm excited for HAM in Ferrari! Nice with driver changes and this is as big one as they come 😇 But I understand if Ferrari fans like Sainz. I like him too so.
He's not getting the red bull seat
you cant be that decisive rn
it can happen
He wants something earlier. RB doesn't want to rush their decision
those two exclude the other one by default 😛
But that's not written in stone. RB might change their minds and offer it to him earlier. Anything can happen 😇
For that to happen Max will have to announce next week that he's moving to Merc 😉 And I am a bit skeptical that will happen 😄
Sainz is great, I'd love to see either him or Fernando next to Max. But chances are pretty slim
RB can truly dominate with him on the team and it won't be even close.
But they have other stuff to fix right now 😄
My early guess is that Perez will do well enough to get 1 more year next to Max. Unless the RB drama continues and Max switches or even quits 😅
Toto and Max and Karen in a team 😂 Newey to Ferrari with Ham and Lec. Now that would be fun to watch
Yeah that would be sth 😅
Although latest rumor about Newey is going to Toyota hyper cars
I’m only doing 1 change this week to have 3 changes next week when we know a bit more.
All of the budget drivers are a dice roll for points and value. If I make 2 changes this week it would be to remove RIC and TSU. But I think waiting until the next race and have the option of 3 changes might be better.
Now bring back goatifi to Merc!
Goatifi and Ocon 😆
Another drain issue lol
The hell is Ham doing
I remember Newey once said that he doesn't want to move to Ferrari because it will impact his personal life
RBR focusing on race pace again and totally dominating
Slow? He’s doing .5-.7 sec faster lap times than the others lol
Only one sub 1.34 in race sim
I’m a little behind of the live missed a bit so watching from there
Only one close is Checo with roughly .2 difference
Alonso don't give me hope 🥲
Quali focus vs race focus 😂
Rb has been focusing on optimizing the car for the race itself for quite some time and not so much on quali. And today they completely dominated the race pace. In the end max had a second per lap better times than Alonso
I was thinking this but I dont see much use for 3 next week
So most likely I sack both RB drivers and get in something like gasly and magnussen
I would love to make 6 changes , yeah it would cost me penalty of 40 pts but in the long run might be worth it
In this case Id use wildcard
Unlimited amount of changes
Good point @kind reef ! I might do that actually
I think is my plan
You sure you don’t want Stroll vs Gasly ? You have enough $
They money is save on the bank account, I am fairly sure stroll go down in value this week
He will qualify like P10 and then end race there too, not good for fantasy points
Unless he pulls off another top 10 and goes +0.3… have faith 😅
The top 10 was good only cause he got spinned lap 1
without that stroll score for fantasy would been very low
Maybe yeah … but he might spin in 1st corner again 😅
8 total, 1 from P10, 2 from positions gained 12--> and 5 overtakes which came cause he was spinned
So if he qualifies low Q3, most likely gained is 0 or even minus
You sûre for Pierre ? 😭
Good pick for fantasy, qualify low and then with dnf / their drivers experience they gain a few places
and bam, easy 5-8 points
Ooh you're strategic
Ocon made 7 fantasy points bahrain and gasly 6
I don't understand why but i think i will remake my teams haha
(my english is very bad sorry)
Its very usefull to try to read the gamerules and how the scoring work to know how to pick the drivers, you can select different language so maybe there is your own language available
Yes I know it I already did 😎
So at the back of the race the drivers dont get any points from the placement, so their most of the points are gained from overtakes + positions gained in race
And when you think the drama can’t get any better…
Wait, she was still there? 😄
lol the audacity to stay when you accuse your boss for something. Idk if that's balls of steel or just cowardnessZ
I know if that was me I would be gone asap 😂
That surprises me even more
Forget about accusing the boss
If you truly believe he did something so wrong - I wouldn't even spend a day there
New idea for fantasy, I could take both alpine drivers.....
You trust Ocon? 😄
Yes
Brave!
But next debate is if I keep tsunoda or albon, not sure about that yet
Tsunda may flop the Q and get places from race. Albon is consistent on quali and quali higher than the car should be often
Wow. I don't know why, but this seems to me it can go for long... Hope I'm wrong, but just wish this is not the beginning of a long-term struggle against CEO Horner... (?) at RBR... no matter if it were RedBull itself (and not the Racing Team) that took this disciplinary HR action... Unfortunately I think we'll be hearing about this issue for quite a long time, throughout the season... I can perfectly see all this going on the bad consequences... Again, hope I'm wrong . (
In the worst scenario, she indeed may want to stay, but not with him as her boss, and that is going through the legal complaint road... 😬🤦🏻♂️😕 in any case, this seems to be a story for long... 😕
Hope it all clears out and pans out to be a non-story at all... but honestly fear for the worst. 🫣😕
Anyway. I've just arranged my fantasy team too ^ ^.
Seriously dude he's been framed
What does "wildcard" mean in f1?
who will replace hamilton
I bet it's Vettel or Antonelli
Anyone really. It’s a desired seat.
Could Vettel rejoin F1 eventhough he retired?
Points for Overtaking on the cool down lap
Sainz out of the GP! Require surgery for his appendix. Some junior driver will replace.
Bye bye ferrari from my team
Oliver bearman driver for ferrari
F1 debut
Have no clue about him or his talent. Sad for Sainz tho!
Noo
Yeah really sad 😔
Hopefully Sainz will be good to go in Australia 🇦🇺 🤞🏼
so free change in fantasy league?
I don’t think so …
Bro fk fantasy league this can’t be happening to him 😔
Ferrari made him sick
YESSS
Does this mean it will take some time before he comes back?
I'm no expert but would guess he could race 2w after the surgery
I just pray the best future for him
Ferrari saw they sacked the wrong driver last week. That's why they made that driver sick today 😉
Yeah 2-3 weeks generally
Was some other driver who recently had his appendix removed. Think it was Albon. So one can see how long he was out to get an idea.
Who wants wallpaper
It’s not funny 😞 really hating the team as a fan rn
lol what
Ayo dont you diss my conspiracy theory
Albon missed Monza on Sept 11th , 2022 and raced in Singapore on Oct 2nd , 2022…
That was 3 weeks apart
No and people are guessing you need to use transfer for bearman and you dont get his points straight for sainz
I mean if a DNF is -20p that makes sense. It's a hard life, F1 Fantasy 😅
Ferrari car is good, it will carry him I trust
Need for surgery
@kind reef i cheer for you mate! Want you to place high globally!
is sainz ok, what surgery
I will try my best 😎
ight ty
An illment, allegedly
Slightly more than just ill
Its so hard, keep ferrari and pray or switch to mercedes and trust they are more consistent now.....
Stay with Ferrari
Feels like Merc should get more total points this weekend with HAM & RUS than Ferrari with LEC and 18 year old rookie.
Carlos should sign with Merc during this time and they can already swap with Ham this year 😂 a win win
Yeah.. tough decision
The problem with switching to Merc is it’s uses one transfer you really don’t want to while trying to get VER asap
can anyone help mee
You won’t get help getting an illegal stream here. F1 tv pro is a very good value
🤔 Follow Live timing & broadcast (audio) and see the summary at the end, in the worst case that may be rightly enough to follow the race 🏎️... and you won't miss that much 👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻👆🏻👆🏻
Don’t think the FIA allows that
They’ll allow Sainz signing
But idk probably not let them swap
Only the reserve drivers can replace the teams drivers for that season
Max to RB a while ago? And plenty other swaps between alpha Tauri toro Rosso etc
Wdym
I mean it’s not an exception that a non reserve driver can drive for another team in the same season. Heck even Karen was called to Merc to replace Hamilton a few years ago
am i stupid or is only less than ten cars setting a lap in fp3
i mean its not ideal track temp, but surely get some race runs in? especially alpine and haas
ok 14 cars now
did sergeant already mess up his car
yep turn 22 like stroll yesterday
stroll never looks in his mirrors i swear
This session is throwing up all of the fantasy curve balls 😂
P3 end?
I’d guess so
hmmm don't know if they'll have time to repair the car
I’ll never understand how a team can have a reserve driver and not even use them when one of their drivers will be out. So dumb.
i’m farely new to watching f1, how does that crash affect zhous qualifying and race?
It all depends if the team can fix the car before Qualifying. If they can fix it in time then it’s normal. If they can’t, he will start the race from last. Quite possibly even start from the pit lane so they can change what they want.
2 hours off hard work for sauber
tbh i think they can do it just in time
Bearman matching Ham pace in his first run lol
FP3 still running?
Might be an interesting Q then. I'm excited!
Ham apparently was on high downforce setup. What
Isnt bearman their reserve driver
Zhou wrecked his car in fp3
Unsure if he cant get car on track for qualifiers
I thought it was Schwartzman but I just looked it up and I guess Oliver is a reserve driver. I some how missed that news.
It was schwartzman last season I think
@dapper wagon How about going full risk with fer to AM and ricciardo to Bearman 😆
Bearman could be the hidden gem to get funda for perez —> verstappen change
Quali predictions 🏎️🏁⬇️⬇️⬇️
thanks👍, i assumed that’s how f1 worked but still had to ask
That’s one hell of a gamble 😂
I think FantasyTools is drunk having McLaren there?
So Audi struck a settlement to buy 100% of Sauber instead of 25% mhm
I thought it was always the plan for 2026. But it’s been okd for 2025 I believe?
Did you select the zhou dnq?
No, that’s what it’s currently predicting.
Yeah, I was under the impression they had no doubts about getting the 100%. They just finalized it earlier. But they will not enter as Audi until 2026 still and it will remain kick sauber blah blah
I think the same as FP3 results atleast the top 3
1st max
2nd leclerc
3rd russell
I can’t get Stroll in so I’m stuck with all the rubbish
I could get stroll but is he so good of pick
TSU & ALB out for MAG and SAR but boy is it risky. It would mean I could get VER next week IF I get a lot of magic
Im thinking to use no negative
Maybe not next week, I’d need to gain like 1.2m
I thought about it too and put Zhou in. He starts p20 and he’ll gain at least 2 positions from alpine
Just can’t crash again 😂
Spare money is save from being lost
I’m going very high risk with my team 1
Cred to F1 Fantasy for adding Bearman right away, and with a photo! Meanwhile F1 Clash still have Nyck De Vries in the game 😂😂😂
Took a punt. Dropped Ferrari for Merc 🤞
Very Christmas themed colours 😂
I hope I get to a of points this time 😂. I thought I did well and when I checked leaderboard I was last 💀💀💀😭😭😭
It’s a long season. Anything can happen
Probably the safe bet
I'm mid-pack and happy with that since it's my first season!
Nice lap bearman 🐻
Bear man gonna ruin my switch 😂
if bearman gets Q3 and he finishes the race, he will be the DOTD without any question
Its just how the vote works
Better lap than ham 🤭
feel like hamilton gets elimated from top 10
Yeah his weird form was the factor which kept me in ferrari
I see lec more valuable than russell
Yeah same
ZHOU IS OUT
Unbelievable
stakes engineers must be fuming rn
Glad I didn’t go OCON and Gasly
Happy with subbing in Aston as constructors so far 👀
Stroll will bottle it and not make Q3
And crash in the race
I am so happy I have gasly
Perfect to start at p18
I only see them going backwards
gasly had one of the best race paces of backmarkers on practices
Why do they throw a red flag out there, hulk is at end of sector 1 they could allow others to finish lap and have double yellow from turn 1 onwards
Why red flag? Was eating a carrot and got distracted.
Hulk stopped on track sector one
Pressure on the rookie at front of the que
Stroll was also 2nd in Q1 Bahrain and effectively missed Q3… is that the start of a trend ?
Stroll almost 0,5s slower than Alonso atm. He's just too inconsistent.
How come
am I behind
Now just good last sector bearman please
Ah sad
He either is psychic or 3 min ahead in the broadcast 😅
.036 slower than Ham 😭
So close
Called it
Watching F1 on Tv broadcast now sucks compared to F1 TV 😭
Good lap .5 behind 😂 oh well
Alonso is legit this weekend 😮
How does Karen drive this merc better than LH? Didn't Karen say this car is build more around LH input?
LH seems like he doesn’t even care right now
Feels classic to me that the 2nd driver becomes more dominant once it's known the 1st driver will leave after the season. Either main focus of the team switch to the 2nd driver that will stay, or the 1st driver isn't as motivated, or both these scenarios.
Mercedes 🤭
RÜß made a mistake now tho so HAM might beat him today
I changed my whole F1 Fantasy team 😭. This it will be points guys, hell no I stay plum last. Alonso and Verstappen clutching for me 🙂
I got 30points penalty for changing too 😂
All I need is leclerc good lap now
I subbed on Red Bull and Aston as constructors and feel quite happy with that for today at least.
Thanks Merc 😂 🫠
This is looking scary
Stroll being .8 slower than Alonso is mad
That Rb is not even in quali spec lol 😂
Yeah he let me down. At least got to Q3 tho
I know right. That’s race spec 😂
Still unbelievable he’s that much slower
Race spec is .3 faster than Ferrari 😂😂😂😂 any bets if max stays ahead will p2 have drs in the end of the lap?
Wait what
He only has that seat cuz of his dad after all 🙈 And Alonso is one of the best.
Maybe Horner striking back 😅
I am praying Ferrari won't screw it up. I got Ferrari and Alpine as contructors 💀💀. I can imagine both cars DNF one day.
I’m confused. I haven’t seen that. He’s not allowed to talk in public also lol
“Ferrari is very close to us”. No, Checo, Ferrari is close to YOU
surprised leclerc wears all that stuff on his wrists, prolly what got him p2
Max will be long gone. Perez might have some problems for the first few laps.
💯. He’s really letting the team down. Sainz would be a good addition
im stupid for choosing 3x TvT it was a misclick because i was going fast
2023 Pole : 1:28:265
2024 Pole: 1:27:472
That is a massive Improvement when you think about it
Idk why they don’t do qualie lap records instead of just race lap record
2023 was Perez on pole so maybe only .45 of a second lol
It’ll be sad to watch the McLarens drop like lead balloons tomorrow with their lack of top speed.
Then you get Alpine and their tractor
😭Everybody bully us
That Helmut Marko thing is quite serious it seems
I wonder if he goes will max go also
He’s beyond loyal to him, at least compared to Horner
You got a link to the story from reputable source?
Not really no. Not much in English-language outlets unfortunately. Just that he leaked team info (probably Horner related), that he was forbidden to speak to the media and that's basically it
Sifting through the 100s of click bait articles haha surprised BBC haven't posted anything but they do usually wait to verify a story first
Not sure if motorsport.com is reliable 😛
Max to Ferrari alongside Hamilton 😆
Nah, to Merc 😄
Seems there are quite clear camps at Red Bull currently
Checo - Horner vs Marko - Verstappens
Thai guys are backing Horner, and they are majority stakeholders
Checo only pretending to be Horner's friend to keep his drive 🤣
