🏎│real-f1-chat

[jaunty cave]

Curious to see how many seconds Ham will get for the incident with Max

[winter ledge]

Lewis not leaving enough space

[opaque crest]

For me it was a bit of both, I'd say racing incident?

Only 1 100% to blame atm is Danny Ric in my opinion

[jaunty cave]

This wasn’t a racing incident I think. We’ll see

[winter ledge]

Idk, they both went to turn 2 side by side

[jaunty cave]

Ham leaving absolutely no space and steering into Max (from what I’ve seen)

[mystic aurora]

It's so tight.
Car width was there and VER had the space. One of them may have gone in with a bit of oversteer

[winter ledge]

Lando penalty too I think

[opaque crest]

Yep super tight. I think it would be harsh if either got a penalty.

[jaunty cave]

Verstappen 5 sec penalty LOL

[crude kiln]

5s for Max 😂 Joke imo

[opaque crest]

I'm behind but that is bonkers 😂

If there was a penalty for anyone I'd have thought Lewis but neither deserved one

[jaunty cave]

FIAmg

[junior minnow]

Well

Park the car and sit in the grandstands xD

[fathom root]

This was wrong. The fia should have put it as a racing incident and let it go. I feel Hamilton didnt leave any space or as @mystic aurora said oversteer. Either way no one deserved a penalty. I blame FIA on this, they are getting ridiculously stupid at this point 😴

[junior minnow]

Maybe they recon that max would not have made that corner?

[waxen moat]

How do I unlock clubs

[crude kiln]

I hope Karen wins

[tulip drum]

FIA is making f1 boring man

[opaque crest]

I don't. He's arrogant enough as it is let alone with winning something

[crude kiln]

But maybe he calms down if he gets that first win? That's what I'm hoping at least 😅

[fathom root]

Let him win he is driving in peace and also raced well in the sprint 😹

[heady sonnet]

I'd rather have him calm down before winning

A win will be a pure ego boost (unneeded one)

[opaque crest]

That could be true. We've seen how Max has changed his style since winning championship so maybe it would do the same for KR

[jaunty cave]

Who’s do we refer to as Karin? Hamilton or George?

[heady sonnet]

Karen Russell

[chrome otter]

Both 😉

[opaque crest]

Ferrari pitting earlier on the mediums than the rest on the softs 🤔

[slate sigil]

That mclaren car is dreadful

[heady sonnet]

Lewis this year isn't being an arrogant pr*ck

[winter ledge]

Quite humble compare to last 2 years

Lots of smile when interview too

[heady sonnet]

I've completely changed my attitude towards him this year. Seeing Karen

[opaque crest]

I think it shows the amount of pressure they're under when fighting for a title. Seb is much more likeable now, Lewis is. Without that pressure they're different people

[crude kiln]

He also isn't regularly blaming people for not taking care of the environment and not being vegan etc. Think many disliked him cuz of stuff like that.

[heady sonnet]

Max also

[opaque crest]

Can't wait until next year and it's a three way fight and they're all idiots again 😂

[heady sonnet]

Well one thing is certain

It won't be Karen

[crude kiln]

Max boxing again 😯 And poorly timed stop on Perez

[opaque crest]

Those mediums appear to be absolutely useless

[junior minnow]

Yeah I was surprised to see the mediums again

[winter ledge]

How many pit stop we get today

[opal galleon]

Those tyres in general has been bad.

[opaque crest]

Max has ended up behind Leclerc now

[junior minnow]

That right tire took a 10 second penalty

[opaque crest]

Oh he had his penalty didn't he

[crude kiln]

The race lost alot of charm when bot LEC and VER fell off

[opal galleon]

Merc used this long to find the pace bruh.

[winter ledge]

Max serve penalty

[heady sonnet]

There was also a delay on the back right tyre

[winter ledge]

Vettel to do 1 stop?

[mystic aurora]

[junior minnow]

Yes, that’s why I jokingly said that the right tire took a 10 sec penalty. Something went wrong

[opaque crest]

If Lewis is doing 30laps on softs, could he do 1 stop and everyone else do 2?

[junior minnow]

I don’t know how Lewis is on these mediums, but he will probably go back to softs if he still has some

[winter ledge]

It is, tire degrading quite low it seem

[heady sonnet]

Go ham ? 🤣

Beat that Karen

[opal galleon]

That sounds so wrong but I approve 🤣

[heady sonnet]

Didn’t want to sound this way 🤣

[chrome otter]

Mercedes seems fast tho.

Perez cannot keep up

[opaque crest]

Only taken all season 😂

[chrome otter]

Still good news for them for next year

[sturdy moss]

I’m surprised max and Leclerc haven’t got through the pack faster

[winter ledge]

Damage car

[opaque crest]

Have RB messed up a strategy by not pitting Checo sooner?

[winter ledge]

Checo just don't have pace, same like sprint

[opaque crest]

Saving tyres trying to do a 1 stop?

[winter ledge]

He pit quite early for 1 stop I think, but he's Checo, the potential is there

[opaque crest]

Cmon Latifi, do your thing and get us a SC so we can have an exciting last 20laps

[crude kiln]

Merc has to box Russell now

[junior minnow]

I’m not gonna say I told you

[winter ledge]

Merc cover RB

[kind reef]

so can those used softs last 21 laps?

[winter ledge]

Used 3 lap on Q? can

[kind reef]

oh ye

[junior minnow]

I think so. Ham just did a stint of 30. And those are probably 3 or 4 laps old

[opaque crest]

Lewis did 30 earlier so yeah they can. Temperature is cooler now as well

[sturdy moss]

Sprint race was 28 and wasn’t an issue

[kind reef]

wasnt it 24?

[winter ledge]

Ham overtake GR lap 66?

[sturdy moss]

Maybe lol but even so used soft has 3 laps on them

[kind reef]

But yea I didnt think of that they are only Q used tires

[junior minnow]

Oh no

Lando!

[winter ledge]

P4 constructor gone

[crude kiln]

Merc 1-2 confirmed

[opaque crest]

If they'd have waited for a few laps we could have had a fun battle between Lewis and Karen

[junior minnow]

“I want to thank the audience, you guys where amazing. You are the best” incoming

[winter ledge]

script

[sturdy moss]

Full safety car…

[junior minnow]

Poor Birthday boy

[tulip drum]

Full safety

[slate sigil]

McLaren is a dreadful team
I wish I didn’t support this team but I can’t😂

[sturdy moss]

We’re not that bad…not an easy season but fighting for 4th is the best you can expect

Hahah. 🤣 George radio

[feral mauve]

Looooooool

[winter ledge]

Will Ham give space to GR?

[feral mauve]

Russel asking for team orders

[sturdy moss]

About 1% more than anyone else which is 100% more than Verstappen

[slate sigil]

Our car has decent quali pace but horrid race pace compared to the alpines

[opaque crest]

He did not actually just ask that 🤦🏼‍♂️

[feral mauve]

He did

By not asking it directly

[junior minnow]

I just heard an opportunity for Perez

[feral mauve]

But his intentions were obviously

Well exciting race ahead

[sturdy moss]

Lewis got Abu Dhabi PTSD

[feral mauve]

Russel and Hamilton can be the next rosberg Hamilton saga

Russel wants the win, Hamilton to

Nobody is going to back down

[winter ledge]

Won't be easy, Carlos ready to attack with new engine

[feral mauve]

This isn’t bottarga

Man

Bottas

[sturdy moss]

I think Ham wins it, but we will see

[junior minnow]

Oh yeah, I forgot

[feral mauve]

If he wins, won’t be an easy one

[slate sigil]

Save me from this never ending pain of this team. Someone please

[opaque crest]

Lewis deserves it more

[feral mauve]

No he doesn’t

[sturdy moss]

Why?

[opaque crest]

He hasn't moaned as much as Karen this year

[kind reef]

Its not the brightest moment as mclaren fan

[sturdy moss]

Ok lol I agree with that thought you meant based on this weekend

[opaque crest]

Well Karen crashed in quali so Lewis couldn't beat him so we'll never know 😂

[slate sigil]

I hate loving this team

[jaunty cave]

WHEN IS YHIS GOD DAMN SAFETY CAR ENDING

Oh my god

[feral mauve]

Hahahah

Ocon and alonso

😆

[crude kiln]

Hahaha mission impossible making Ocon understand sth like that 😂

[kind reef]

Always next year 😂

[slate sigil]

Drive to survive are about to make big bucks from alpine

[winter ledge]

Alpine wheelie in every episode

[sturdy moss]

Ocon

[jaunty cave]

END SAFETY CAR

[feral mauve]

Why is tsunoda there

[jaunty cave]

SOMEONE SHOOT IT

[slate sigil]

Ocon to his engineer

[kind reef]

what did ocon say, I missed

[junior minnow]

Poor restart Perez

[jaunty cave]

CMON MAC

Max

[feral mauve]

What was perez doing

He didn’t closed the gap at the restart

[tulip drum]

Perez always sleeping

[feral mauve]

So weird

[tulip drum]

And slow

[sturdy moss]

He was told not to fight Alonso

[jaunty cave]

BRO I SWEAR PEOPLE TRY SLOW DOWN TO KEEP MAX BEHIND

[slate sigil]

“Ocon I don’t want you to fight Alonso”
Ocon : “I need to get pass vettel”
“No fighting”

[feral mauve]

Perez also on yellow

Pffff

[sturdy moss]

Is defending your position not allowed 🧐

[slate sigil]

Reminds me of the “no fighting” meme of shelby

[jaunty cave]

OOOO PEREZ

[junior minnow]

Yep…

[feral mauve]

Red bull is having an awful weekend

[kind reef]

Somebody forgot perez on conserve mode at restart

[tulip drum]

Ham took out the one threat they can't beat

[sturdy moss]

I think he gets beat today anyway, Red bull not fast

[feral mauve]

True

[kind reef]

Leclerc crashed into wall pretty badly and now ferrari has chance for 3/4

😂

[junior minnow]

Did we get a reason why the safety car was so long out?

[opaque crest]

Why did RB put Checo on medium tyres?

[sturdy moss]

Sometimes it all comes together at the circus

[winter ledge]

Late car recovery

[kind reef]

will be intresting situation in constructors and drivers champion 2nd place for Abu luckily

[winter ledge]

Lando car

[tulip drum]

Ver is coming Perez

[junior minnow]

It took ages. Thanks, I was wondering if something had happened it between

[crude kiln]

Alonso!🔥

[sturdy moss]

They took ages to release lapped cars too

[feral mauve]

Man perez

[junior minnow]

Those mediums are rubbish on those Red Bulls

[winter ledge]

Massive recovery for CL

[slate sigil]

McLaren have officially lost the battle for 4th

[junior minnow]

Yeah amazing

[kind reef]

Yep

[feral mauve]

Russel is going fast

[opaque crest]

Will RB tell Max to hold station? Lol of course not

[kind reef]

Verstappen will take 1 more point away from perez....

[tulip drum]

They can't tell max to hold behind Perez he is too slow

[junior minnow]

Can’t blame max. He maybe can catch Alonso to

Those mediums are terrible

[kind reef]

Okay well that is decent strat too if max can take points away from leclerc

[junior minnow]

Would be beter for Perez to be in front tough…

[kind reef]

He dont have any speed

[slate sigil]

Considering the amount of laps and gap to leclerc I doubt that’s possible

[indigo slate]

Horner said they wouldn’t think about team orders until Abu Dhabi during pre race. Will be interesting if max can’t get Alonso if they will swap back

[junior minnow]

Leclerc is a bit much indeed

[winter ledge]

Old medium? Perez not pit under vsc?

[tulip drum]

Don't think he had softs left

[slate sigil]

I mean 4 laps to close a 4 second gap and overtake him too seems quite unrealistic

[indigo slate]

Leclerc wants team orders too.

[tulip drum]

I actually want ham to beat russel

[kind reef]

We will see if sainz gives the points to leclerc

[opaque crest]

Give up a podium? No way

[winter ledge]

0.2 faster

[junior minnow]

If they will ask that of Sainz, then Sainz will have a radio issue

He’s not gonna swap

[feral mauve]

Hamilton will probably say that Russel deserved that win, but the truth is that Russel is to fast. If Mercedes is going to be competitive again I’m 100% sure we got a great team mate battle ahead of us

[jaunty cave]

Sad lewis didn't win

But glad we did a beautiful 1-2

[indigo slate]

Can’t wait for march already!

[feral mauve]

Leclerc

Lol

Pathetic

[slate sigil]

Leclerc is sounding so selfish

[feral mauve]

It’s not about ending first in the championship

[junior minnow]

Stop whining Leclerc

[crude kiln]

This obsession about the championship from LEC & PER. Feels like that matters if it's for #1

[opaque crest]

You think no other driver wouldn't be doing the same?

[winter ledge]

For first time?

[junior minnow]

Leclerc Made to many mistakes this season. He was unlucky too

[kind reef]

Wait verstappen didnt let perez 😂

[blissful finch]

Bruhhh

That’s so sad

[junior minnow]

Damn Max

[opaque crest]

He'd be fuming if that was the other way round

[opal galleon]

Decent race

[junior minnow]

4 seconds ahead poor Perez

[opaque crest]

Why not let him through? It's not like it mattered. Just when I'm liking him more he does something that spoils it

[slate sigil]

Well guess who didn’t let Perez through🥲

[crude kiln]

Who wouldn't?😂

[kind reef]

Man, he already won wdc and perez has always tried to help him, could at least give something back

sad actually

[opaque crest]

Exactly. Checo has always done what's asked, he's asked to do one thing and he can't do it

[junior minnow]

Max probably wants that record as high as possible with most points in a season

[feral mauve]

He can’t and won’t, because max always said team orders shouldn’t be in F1. If you want the points you should be faster.

[fathom root]

DOTD for lewis 😹😹 joke. Lec and Sainz deserved it

[opaque crest]

If the situation was reversed 100% Max would be livid

[feral mauve]

He won’t

[winter ledge]

I guess the gap between Max and Perez quite big, if Max slow down, penalty may come

[rigid bobcat]

He doesn’t complain when the team tell Perez to let him through though

[opaque crest]

Mate cmon, if you think he wouldn't that's just bonkers. The kind of driver he is he would be furious

[opal galleon]

Is merc ahead of Ferrari in standings now? Anyone got the statistic?

[feral mauve]

Should he? That’s on Perez to pass him

[fathom root]

He should atleast help perez in the last race now. Thats the least he can do

[opal galleon]

I hope Karen is more humble now for getting his first W

[opaque crest]

So it's on Max to pass Checo without orders then? He shouldn't accept Checo letting him through based on your logic

[rigid bobcat]

You can’t benefit from team orders and then refuse to return the favour because you don’t believe in team orders

[junior minnow]

To be honest, max never really does team orders

[crude kiln]

It could be worse tho. At least he doesn't race his teammate extra hard and crash them like Ocon 😅

[winter ledge]

GR did drive very well today

[feral mauve]

This, and now people in here trying to think how max would react if Perez didn’t respond to it. Lol

[opaque crest]

😂 he does when it's his teammate being given them

[junior minnow]

I will never forget small baby max with the team orders. When Max yelled “NO” on the radio

[feral mauve]

If Perez listening to team orders that up to perez, don’t attack max over that

[jaunty cave]

DAMMIITTTTTTTTTTT

[rigid bobcat]

The drivers race for the team. They’re employees like everyone else

[opal galleon]

I don’t think checo ever will be that kind now.

[junior minnow]

If max gets team orders in his favor he is still mad that he wasn’t fast enough 😂

[feral mauve]

Clearly not, otherwise you would have heard Horner on the radio that this was not a question

[rigid bobcat]

Well that’s another matter. Horner won’t risk upsetting Max because he’s still immature

[junior minnow]

I think Hornor knows damn well how max thinks and drives. This is just for show. Hornor can say to Checo that he did his best

[feral mauve]

Haha, clearly by this comment I know why you are talking in this way about max

Sad

[rigid bobcat]

Why?

[junior minnow]

To bad max will not get most wins in percentage. He had to win everything till the end of the season

[opal galleon]

Karen secured the dub

[crude kiln]

Max gets anti-DOTD after that move. Nothing new in this sport tho, but hurts extra much now when he's already won WDC and Perez helping him so many times.

[winter ledge]

Next week Abu Dhabi repeat? Leclerc and Perez same on point🤯

[heady sonnet]

I’m a bit puzzled

[crude kiln]

Never seen the obsession about P2 matter this much tho 😂 It's always more winner or nothing in that regard

[junior minnow]

It’s sad to see, but I still think Team Orders should be forbidden. I hated it when Mercedes did it, so I won’t allow RB doing it

[opaque crest]

Totally. He'd gone up in my estimations this season but after that he just dropped back down. After everything Checo has done for him it's the least he could have done

[feral mauve]

Yeah one thing you will get is that Perez now probably won’t listening to team orders that quickly as he did in the past. But also, Perez is in red bull eyes probably easier replaceable so perhaps that’s also on perez his mind when he gets a team order.

[opaque crest]

They've probably got bonuses tied to it or something 😂

[feral mauve]

Haha this, also new for me

[heady sonnet]

Alonso to Red Bull confirmed

[opaque crest]

That team radio from Max basically shows he has too much power in RB. Never good when one person becomes bigger than the team

[crude kiln]

Exactly. Struggle to hate him tho since he is an open book. He doesn't try to act cute just to turn later. We know what we get with him 😅

[feral mauve]

Like Schumacher? Ended up being a 7 world champion?

[crude kiln]

Must be new for this season then 😆

[junior minnow]

Nah it’s just how drivers are. The drivers with real winners mentality don’t listen to team orders

[feral mauve]

True, we all know the ones who didn’t listen in the past

[heady sonnet]

Was it bad ? Yes. But we don’t know the whole story

[opaque crest]

Doesn't always work out that way though. 99% of the time it implodes the team from the inside, whatever sport you're talking about

[opaque crest]

But they accept it when the orders are in their favour? That's what gets me. If you don't believe in them then tell your team not to tell either of you orders

[heady sonnet]

I’m sure Max had his reasons also. From us as bystanders it’s a pr*ick : Karen move

[crude kiln]

It's the racers mentality and we've seen it many times before. But still feel he should be able to turn that off in this case.

[feral mauve]

Don’t think so, you can’t judge the character from one comment from somebody in the car. If you follow max and red bull, you see there’s a whole other dynamic then what you are suggesting right now

[opaque crest]

Don't benefit from them and then go against them

[winter ledge]

Checo didn't say a thing, he knew Max won't give back the position

[opaque crest]

A different dynamic to RB being focused on making Max a multi-WC? Think that's pretty much common knowledge for anyone with the slightest knowledge of F1 😂

[junior minnow]

Max had some interviews in the past in Dutch that he doesn’t need or wants team orders in his favor. If he’s given a place, it feels to him like he lost

[rigid bobcat]

It’ll be good to hear RB’s interviews

[opaque crest]

But then he's happily benefitted from them when they've been given to Checo. You can't say you don't believe in them but still happily benefit from them

[feral mauve]

I’ve never seen checo slow down on the main straight in the last lap

It was always during racing when max was clearly faster

Fresher tyres etc

[junior minnow]

Yes he benefits from them and he hates checo more for doing so. In his eyes, checo does not have a spine

[crude kiln]

To be fair he normally overtakes Checo regardless 😂

[opaque crest]

You're choosing one example. Team orders are team orders whether it's the last lap or the first lap. You can't pick and choose what counts and what doesn't

[heady sonnet]

Slight off topic but why none touches on Sainz ?

[opaque crest]

Oh yeah he totally would pass him anyway 😂

[heady sonnet]

Leclerc whined on the radio

[winter ledge]

Cuz he fast, but not fast enough😂

[heady sonnet]

Well, same situation. Doesn't fight for anything. And people gang on Max 😄

[opaque crest]

Team orders? We all know no driver is giving up a podium

[heady sonnet]

Exactly the same situation. Sainz didn't need it. He has nothing fighting for. Nothing. And Charles could use the points a lot more

[opaque crest]

If Max had been in 3rd and ignored it I'd have been fine with it. It was the nothing situation that he couldn't do it once that annoyed me

[rigid bobcat]

People have been commenting on Leclerc whining. He asks for team orders too often. Asking for a free podium is too much

[opaque crest]

Yeah but a podium is a podium. That matters more than 5th or 6th or whatever it was

[rigid bobcat]

And Sainz wasn’t asked (or told) to let him through

[winter ledge]

Most want rb 'fair'to both drivers, like we want fair mm🤣

[heady sonnet]

I saw a comparison to Schumacher above - and I do agree with it

[junior minnow]

Micheal the 🐐

[heady sonnet]

We didn't hear it. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. There has to be drama and we got drama 😄

[opaque crest]

Personally I just think of how much we've seen Checo play 2nd fiddle to Max and what he's done that it wouldn't have taken much for Max to do 1 thing in return

[rigid bobcat]

We heard the team tell Leclerc they weren’t asking Sainz to move

[heady sonnet]

Will be a good DTS episode 😉

[opaque crest]

Carlos and Charles have never really had to help each other out so there's no feeling of either one owing the other something

[heady sonnet]

I only heard it's too risky

[rigid bobcat]

Yeah, that was the message. Pretty clear

[heady sonnet]

Carlos has helped Charles quite a bit in Q sessions also

[rigid bobcat]

They didn’t have the heart to say they weren’t even going to consider it

[heady sonnet]

Carlos and Charles (who, again, is one of my favorites) are much closer in pace compared to Max and Checo

[opaque crest]

Abu Dhabi last year. Checo held up Lewis which in the end helped Max win the title. If he hadn't Lewis would have had a free pit stop for the late SC.

Max can't give up 1 place after that?

[winter ledge]

Many times Perez let Max through, Max left him by miles 🤷‍♂️, it is just to make sure they not fight which can lose time, worst case crash

[heady sonnet]

King, I fully agree. I also think he should have and wouldn't have hurt him at all. But I still believe he's like that. And if it was, let's say Michael in that case, he wouldn't have done it either

[opaque crest]

Oh yeah, Max isn't the only one who would do it. He just happens to be the one that did it today lol

[junior minnow]

Max for sure will give up a place it will help checo Win the championship

He will not do it for checo, he just doesn’t want the talks with Redbull about why they lost a championship because of him 😂

[crude kiln]

After today I'm not so sure 😂

[opaque crest]

If he doesn't believe in team orders that passionately he won't

[spice cradle]

Just to remember, Perez defended like hell in last season race to make sure to cut down Ham’s advantage on Max.. But still doesn’t get team order in favour from Max

[junior minnow]

I think we will never really know. Like Schumacher, Senna, Hamilton. And more. They would never give in to team orders in their prime years of driving

That’s what makes them different. They are arrogant and don’t care about others. They drive to be number 1

[heady sonnet]

Ham now would do it. But not 10 years ago

[junior minnow]

That’s what makes Lewis great. He doesn’t have the best car, but he still drives like a champ. 99% of the drivers would back out of a corner to not crash.

[opaque crest]

I hope we get Max in front of Checo and Carlos in front of Charles in AD so they can keep switching places to be 2nd 😂

[heady sonnet]

Wouldn't it be funny 😄

Forget the drama!

we have a merc 1-2!

[opaque crest]

Season ending with a Lewis win the complete the set?

[heady sonnet]

Let's hope so

Wait, how are ferrari still ahead?

[junior minnow]

If Lewis wins the last race it would be great

[opaque crest]

Imagine Max leading by a mile, Latifi crashing and bringing out a SC with 5 laps to go and Lewis getting him on the last lap

[junior minnow]

Then he knows he still has it. He will probably comeback very strong next season

[feral mauve]

I have my doubts, sometimes you see he’s still a fighter.

[junior minnow]

The only thing that surprises me about max. Is that he has not pitted and stoped racing when he knows he can’t finish fist place

[feral mauve]

Still surprised why tsunoda was in the pack with the restart

Was hè giving a pass to go or?

[heady sonnet]

In the same situation Ham would do it. Now though.

Not fighting for anything, just trying to finish the race

[junior minnow]

Max will do it too

After 7 world titels

[indigo slate]

Yes lapped cars were given signal to go

[feral mauve]

So he was like im fine here? 😂

[heady sonnet]

That's why I said that Ham 10 years (or 7) ago wouldn't do it

[indigo slate]

Max might not want to give into orders so he can push up single season point total as a record. Only Red Bull knows what maxs reasons are at this point

[junior minnow]

He was very clear on the radio

[indigo slate]

Yea he just said “I gave you my reasons. Don’t ask again”

[heady sonnet]

That's why I said we don't know the fully story

Just imagine ( I know, unlikely)

He is trying to force Checo do as well as he can without expecting points to be given to him like a present.

[indigo slate]

That’s why I’m speculating it’s for a record. He wants to be able to set that record as high as he can

[junior minnow]

For all we know checo farted in Max helmet right before the start

[heady sonnet]

( again, it's unlikely, but it could be?"

[feral mauve]

Then I wouldn’t gave that position either 😂

[jaunty cave]

everyones fuming at max just for keeping a place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waBaMPyDo9c

every comment in the video comment section is saying how they hate him but i havent lost a bit of respect

[sturdy moss]

It’s only an issue because of how often he has benefited from a team order not to repay a favour on a very rare occasion. Look at what Checo did for max in the final race of last season for example

[feral mauve]

I also saw somebody commenting about how F1 is a team sport. Well, you have the constructors ranking but otherwise your team mate is the N1 competitor 👍

[jaunty cave]

Can some1 explain why max got 5s instead of Lewis?

[heady sonnet]

I would never place Max and Checo on the same level

[jaunty cave]

True, max is better

[heady sonnet]

They aren't even close

[opaque crest]

From Sky's analysis they reckon the stewards thought Max forced Lewis off as he wasn't going to make the corner at the angle and speed he was going

[jaunty cave]

But that didnt happen😂😂

Mfs

[opaque crest]

Well it did. They hit and Lewis went off the track...

[heady sonnet]

Sky 😄

[jaunty cave]

No but Lewis cuts into max not max i to lewis

[feral mauve]

Because Lewis turned in to max, he had all the space

Left was wide open

[jaunty cave]

Yeah i dont listen to their bias

[heady sonnet]

Might as well quote Ziggo 😄 😄 😄

[jaunty cave]

Quote it

[opaque crest]

Turning away from the corner? 😂

[feral mauve]

Haha, don’t. Tom coronal is such a pain in the ass

[jaunty cave]

I have a nice quote from the dutch viaplay

[heady sonnet]

Exactly my point 😄 Sky is so blatantly biased it's ridiculous

[feral mauve]

You can drive different lines, don’t act if you don’t know that

[heady sonnet]

Even if Ham or Karen torpedoes someone they will blame it on the other guy

[jaunty cave]

Lewis: thats more then a racing incident
Commentator: bc u hit him

U is lewis

@heady sonnet tell me the quote of ziggo sport

[opaque crest]

I said at the time racing incident if anyone should be penalised should be Lewis. I'm just explaining what Sky said in response to the question asked

[heady sonnet]

There is no quote 😄 My only reference to Ziggo is about how they would spin it that Ham was at fault

[jaunty cave]

Sometimes they are a little too mich bias too

😂

[rigid bobcat]

Tbf that was Sky’s assumption of what the stewards thought for why they gave that penalty. Brundle didn’t see it the same way as the stewards

[opal galleon]

It’s called supporting one of their kind. This is how they operate in every sport not just F1.

[heady sonnet]

In general commentators HAVE to be somewhat impartial and neutral. Not being biased like that

Sometimes yes, but sky has been on Toto payroll for quite a bit

[opal galleon]

Yup. I am glad, I got Norwegian Coverage 🙂

[heady sonnet]

They even had max crash at Silverstone in their Christmas video

[opal galleon]

Yeah I know.

I saw that. Tons of reaction. It got taken down very late too.

[crude kiln]

"You have to leave the space! ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE!" /The True Goat and my DOTD today

[junior minnow]

These days it’s F1TV commentary for me

[heady sonnet]

Checo is a legend*

*terms and conditions apply 😂

[feral mauve]

https://youtu.be/51F-5K3rnDM

Hamilton and Verstappen will never be friends 😂

In years time we will still talk about this rivalry, like Senna and Prost

[opaque crest]

Even though Brundle said it was Lewis' fault. They're not all bad lol

[sturdy moss]

Just looked at the standings. If Checo and Leclerc take each other out and George wins with fastest lap he takes P2 😅

[opaque crest]

Spot the difference, championship wasn't won at this point either

[opal galleon]

what??

[feral mauve]

Which difference?

[sturdy moss]

26 points left he is only 25 back

[opal galleon]

damnn I was not aware of that

[sturdy moss]

I wasn’t expecting it to be possible

[heady sonnet]

Now that would be funny

[next elm]

yoo

england won the world cup

less goo

[opal basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-rabbit-cute-gif-15676652

[heady sonnet]

No one from England won any championship this year in f1.

[spice cradle]

Apart from Max saga yesterday I am still wondering about strat by RB this week, Medium tyre in sprint when whole field was in soft, then put Checo in Medium tyres for last stint while soft tyre would have been right choice like rest of them did

[jaunty cave]

Wouldn’t have mattered if they went on softs as well. They had the setup completely wrong after the first practice. I don’t think there is anything RB could’ve done at that point to be more competitive due to the parc ferme rules. Also for anyone who still hasn’t heard it, Max denied Perez’ the 6th place because Perez put the car into the wall on purpose at Monaco to secure his pole position in favour of Ver. He has admitted that to CH and HM. Still don’t agree with his move entirely but this way it’s a little more understandable

[kind reef]

Childish of verstappen, nothing will change it. Its funny to see the Max fans still somehow tryna make it to seem he did right thing on all social media channels 😂

[rare ferry]

Tyre deg was quite bad, they couldn't get good traction out of the corners without some sort of consequence of wearing the rear tyres

especially the right rear

The only logical reason was to probably see how well the mediums would fare in the race.

[rare ferry]

Its not understandable, the team wanted checo to comfortably go into the final race ahead of leclerc, in which Gianpiero Lambiase and Hugh Bird both agreed with Horner and Marko (surprisingly) that Checo would get the position had Verstappen not passed Alonso and Leclerc to take points off of them in the championship.

[feral mauve]

Well if he needed to settle a score with Perez it was the worst timing to do so

[rare ferry]

Max doing his own thing, trying to assert dominance into the team, had the chance to give checo the position by slowing down in sector 2

[jaunty cave]

To be fair, Verstappen said beforehand (before the race started) that he would not let him pass because there’s something he wanted settled

[rare ferry]

He had many other races to do that. The worst timing possible, since Abu Dhabi has now become an extremely important race to checo.

After checo willingly giving up a race win, to holding up max's title rival, Checo was a good man who was taken the advantage of by a younger selfish idiot.

[jaunty cave]

Well, basically not because they’ve not been in a position to swap places in earlier races. It was either Max way in front of the grid and Perez somewhere p4-p6

[feral mauve]

You need to be selfish in F1, and I won’t call any driver an idiot which makes no sense

[jaunty cave]

This was the first race where it was possible to swap positions since then

[rare ferry]

Cause F1 is defo not a team sport at the end of it isn't it? When you wrap up the championship and screw the guy who quite clearly handed the kid his first and willingly gave him a booster for his second.

[jaunty cave]

What race would he have won that he gave up on? Abu Dhabi 2021? He wouldn’t even be close even if he wanted to. Ham was way too fast for both RB. Yes, he held him up but he would never have a chance of winning

[rare ferry]

No, Barcelona this year. Despite Max having issues with DRS, Checo had to let him past cause apparently maximising the points was important than holding positions for a 1-2

Could've been PÉR VER and Max would still be ahead by quite a margin.

All in all, Max has just committed a Cardinal Sin. You don't screw over the guy who helped you since he made his debut.

[jaunty cave]

Since his debut? He’s had many drivers as teammates who cracked under pressure and either left (Ricciardo, maybe Sainz) or had to do a step back (Albon, Gasly, Kvyat) at both Torro Rosso and Red Bull

[rare ferry]

Debut in the team.

Daniel simply left cause he knew RB were going to prioritise Max over him. Sainz jumped ship cause he managed to find a seat elsewhere, trying to follow in Alonso's footsteps. Albon, Gasly and Kvyat obviously didn't live up the high expectations that RB had.

[jaunty cave]

I still do not agree with what Verstappen has done but at any team, at any point, he would be the most talented guy that a team will be built around. Just like Merc did with Hamilton, like RB did earlier with Vettel, like Ferrari did with Schumi

[rare ferry]

Yes, but then again, Hamilton helped with development when the V6 hybrid era kicked in, Vettel helped with development, Schumi turned around Ferrari massively. Verstappen, ok he just drove what he was given and yeah he milked those cars, but he clutched a championship due to cost infringement and this year RB were able to nail the new regulations and sent it to the top with 400+ points.

There would be no reason for a team to favour a driver unless they helped with development with feedback etc, or if they were just there for a long time.

But for RB to favour Max just cause he has more years left instead of trying to keep it level headed like it is at Ferrari (though their strategy is probably via 8 ball), or Mercedes as now we see Lewis taking a step back for the development with these new regulations earlier this season and Russell being the team player like always (apart from the torpedo moments).

[feral mauve]

Your toxic @rare ferry

Your talking nonsense

Won’t argue any further because you know with some of the stuff your saying you just troll

[rare ferry]

how am I toxic? for stating what has exactly been happening? or something that doesn't fit in your 'non-toxic' agenda?

[supple hull]

WTH is going on

[heady sonnet]

So you are claiming that Max doesn’t develop the car, is miles ahead simply because of his car and is not faster than his teammates so far ? Are we watching the same f1?

Russell being a team player 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

He’s the most selfish guy on the grid on same or higher level than Max lol 🤣

[opaque crest]

Lewis giving up the place AND a podium when still in a title fight

[opaque crest]

RB have favoured Max pretty much since he joined, it's nothing new and it's how teams have worked in the past. Yesterday was not a good look for him but I'm sure he's not the only driver currently on the grid who would have done it.

This also doesn't reflect well on Max. Lots of people are interpreting this as he deliberately went into Lewis despite knowing there wouldn't be space

[heady sonnet]

Today if he says “have a good day” it will be interpreted badly 😂

[rare ferry]

How would you interpret that then?😂

[jaunty cave]

That’s the most terrible translation of his interview that was given in Dutch and not even in the slightest of what he said

[heady sonnet]

Goal is done. Why would people bother with a translation when it can be interpreted that way. Max is bad and selfish. That’s the story 🤣

[opaque crest]

That was what he said in his English interview, not translated lol

[heady sonnet]

Can I see it?

[opaque crest]

See what? The interview? That quote is taken from one of the ones post race that was on Sky.

I can try to find a video of it.

[kind reef]

https://youtu.be/LPPa3VIp4pg

Last 30 sec, no translatation at all

[crude kiln]

Regardless Lewis was the one who turned into Max and didn't leave space. That was the weirdest penalty of the season. But still some find ways to blame Max for whatever. He deserves blame for not giving the position back to Checo, that I agree on. Hope we get to know the full reasoning later some time.

[viscid flint]

Lewis was taking the corner as he was entitled to being the lead car by over half a car. Max had the run off over the kerb but just decided to accelerate and drive into Lewis. Hence why he got the penalty.

[crude kiln]

I think Max was far along for Lewis to leave the space without a doubt. It's weird regardless to give Max a penalty for it when it was Lewis turning in on him. Not sure I've seen that before.

[haughty violet]

I don't really listen to any of that half a car nonsense, it's clear Hamilton is fully committed and if he allowed Vers inside he would have to leave to track himself. It's essentially a dive bomb from max.

[sturdy moss]

I agree with this, if Lewis leaves space and they crash that would be Max’s fault but by not leaving space for a car that is already alongside then that’s on Lewis

[supple hull]

Yeah I think it was max fault because he turned into him

[crude kiln]

Exactly. To me a racing incident. Not saying Lewis should've been penalised either.

[sturdy moss]

I think stewards need to look at consequences too. Max should never have had a penalty but both cars were able to continue in the race so should have been put as racing incident.

[supple hull]

I agree

[sturdy moss]

Anyway we need everyone on the Karen for P2 in the championship bandwagon. Who can print T-shirts 🤣

[supple hull]

😂

[crude kiln]

Lewis is the driver that seems to feel the most entitled to corners from what I've seen over the years. Probably explains why he's been involved in the most incidents now that he actually has to race people again.

[supple hull]

💀 as a Lewishamilton44fan he’s the goat but I kind of agree with you

[sturdy moss]

I think the combo of Max and Lewis doesn’t work, max will always go for the apex no matter what, Lewis will always spueeze the driver on the inside, neither will back down so they crash more.

[supple hull]

I kind of agree

[crude kiln]

What's funny as well is that this incident yesterday was basically identical to when Lewis didn't give Alonso space in Spa. Even Lewis himself said that was his fault. So 5s to Max makes zero sense imo.

[supple hull]

True

[opaque crest]

Just pointing out Lewis backed out quite a few times last year before he got fed up of being the only one doing it

[supple hull]

Fax

[supple hull]

Argeed

[spice cradle]

It was not interpretation, he said those words in English interview

[spice cradle]

I think when Lewis comes up against certain drivers he doesn’t yield.. He did race others to corners without crashing, when he does crash he owns up like with Alonso where he accepted his mistake.. But with Max crashing despite knowing there will not be any space to race is deliberate..
If positions were switched I am sure Max would have defended that corner much worse than what Lewis did

[crude kiln]

Issue is that he feels so entitled to all corners, Max does too. But this was Max's first incident of the year while Lewis has the most of them all. So this narrative that Max is the worse of them is hard to defend imo. Lewis owned up to it with Alonso but with Max he regarded it as Max's fault despite it being the same situation 😅

[heady sonnet]

Gazetta dello sport reports binotto replaced in 2023

By Vasseur

[spice cradle]

Max feels entitled in straight line as well 😂 Both have similar attitude.. Max lacks class, hope with age he learns to stay grounded.. What he did with Checo was height of entitlement (he is above team)

[crude kiln]

I still feel Lewis is worse in every regard when it comes to being involved in inchidents and that the hate against Max in that is unjustified in comparison. People are only attacking Max for that incident last race since he got 5s penalty, which surprised most when that happened. The Checo thing he deserves all criticism for tho! He really should mature in that regard.

[viscid flint]

its only max's 1st incident because he had to come from behind this race. every other race he has pretty much started from pole and just left everyone else to fight for 2nd and 3rd.

[spice cradle]

For me it’s not just last season or this season, from the incident with Ocon where he kinda assaulted him for his mistake never had great image about him.. Though I love his aggressive driving and what he can achieve in that car, as a person I always had bad image.. in my books Good racer, not great human

[glass garnet]

Ferrari was quick to respond to the rumours, but there’s no smoke without fire … I’m sure Leclerc will be pushing for a change after a rough 2022

[crude kiln]

Yeah right 😂 He has battled alot this season and come through the field. What you are saying is what sums up Lewis.

[crude kiln]

Yeah he seems a bit of a tricky person.

[viscid flint]

hardly battled has he. There car has been so much faster that he doesn't need to battle.

[crude kiln]

Had several battles with LEC, battled RUS last sprint, and has come from behind to win as well. Didn't he even break a record in coming from behind and winning a few times? All without incidents. While Lewis leads the incident league. So I'm allergic to this narrative that Lewis is the fair one of those two.

[opal galleon]

Italian media reporting Binotto is heading out but Ferrari is denying?

[fathom root]

Vettel for Team Principle 👀

[opaque crest]

I think the narrative doesn't really work either way to say one is worse than the other. It would be interesting to see the roles reversed and how many incidents Max has in the Merc and Lewis in the RB. In my opinion Max was overly aggressive last year however this year he changed.

Racing against Lewis seemed to push him back into last year though as he could have backed out. Saying that I feel Lewis was slightly more to blame but Lewis backed out last year where as Max chose not to this time despite knowing how it would end.

[crude kiln]

Nah I agree and think they both are "bad", but it's just a funny look when ppl talk about Max being the dirty one of the two when Lewis hits someone every race it feels like while this was Max's first real incident of the season 😅 And people started with this talk now again only since Max got the 5s, which surprised most when announced.

[opaque crest]

I do think Max has a different set of rules when it comes to Lewis. He was much fairer when it came to racing against Charles but with Lewis he seems to think sod it. Lewis on the other hand is the same with everyone 😂

[crude kiln]

Yeah that's true 😆 He goes extra hard vs Lewis. Just a bad match those 2 if you want clean racing.

[heady sonnet]

Gazetta delle sport and sky also. Rather weird for both or them but to confirm it same day

[jaunty cave]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rEIAK5Ao8DQ&feature=share

[spice cradle]

https://twitter.com/formulawill13/status/1592514020996952077?s=46&t=jUSIkiDDit7jtPoH_Ve1Og

Will (@formulawill13)

@F1Noob @FP1Will I think this video shows it all quite nicely. Whether the ocon or the Hamilton incident are comparable is a different matter but the incident could have been avoided.

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Twitter · Nov 15, 2022, 1:45 PM

[heady sonnet]

Cleanest driver out there 😂

[viscid flint]

Fairly sure Max made contact with Carlos in the sprint and lost his end plate or does not count. Short memories max fans have 😂

[heady sonnet]

Fine, it’s not 1 vs 10, it’s 2 vs 10. But yes, Lewis is so amazingly clean and gives way to everyone to avoid contact 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

😂

Not sure about max fans’ short memory, but Lewis fan’s’ hypocrisy is quite obvious 🤣

[opal galleon]

Schumacher won’t drive for haas 2023.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClDK_9kjztB/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

haasf1team

Haas F1 Team and Mick Schumacher will part ways at the conclusion of the 2022 FIA Formula 1 World Championship.

We would like to thank Mick for his contribution to the team over the past two seasons.

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[opaque crest]

Considering how long Stroll, Latifi etc have been given this is disappointing 😞

[kind reef]

Sad day

[opal galleon]

I will be more disappointed if they replace him with hulk

[kind reef]

They did already

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClDOnPyIDCN/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

haasf1team

HULKENBACK! 🤝 We're pleased to welcome nico to Haas F1 Team as our driver for the 2023 FIA Formula 1 season, alongside Kevin Magnussen.

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[opal galleon]

Beuhhh…

Atleast they brought back a guy that many likes 🙂

[kind reef]

Yes comments very positive :)

[viscid flint]

i never for once said he was clean ;O just pointing out a fact.

[glass garnet]

Anyone remembers this from 5 years ago ? 😂

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=21T8d0SA5Js

[heady sonnet]

https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/team-statement-brazil-grand-prix?utm_source=RBR_Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=TeamStatement_2022_Brazil_GP&utm_content=Article&fbclid=IwAR3E8DmlPdwr1LogjkK_0ZayoyVbG0-I_PznPqH-UIBWZr5buJpIonDjZxk

😂

[runic field]

Lol Max is greater than Red Bull confirmed. They'll bend over backwards to please him.
They told him to swap place if he didn't overtake Alonso before he overtook Perez.
They have Max's balls deep inside their mouth 🤣

And as usual any criticism is deflected by referring to "death threats online" easy way out.

[heady sonnet]

Did Williams confirm sergeant ?

Did he get enough license points ?

[haughty violet]

Not yet, he needs to finish 5th in the championship or could finish 6th and not pickup any penalty points over the course of the season, which he is on course to do apparently.

He is currently 3rd but 7th is only 12 points behind in the championship.

[heady sonnet]

That’s what I thought also but saw a message it’s a definite roster

Thank you

[haughty violet]

Oh I hadn't heard Hulkenberg was back. 😞

[heady sonnet]

Only hope for mick would be for Logan not to get enough points 🤣

[opaque crest]

Are RB actually trying to gaslight us into thinking they didn't ask him multiple times on the last lap? They know we can hear the radio right? 😂

[rigid bobcat]

Must think we’re as stupid as their finance team

[heady sonnet]

I’ll rewind it on f1 tv

[haughty violet]

McLaren breakdown already

[winter ledge]

Let us know the results😁

[opal galleon]

Ric to be third driver in RB

[heady sonnet]

Really ?

[opal galleon]

Marko said

According to reports let’s see and wait for confirmation

[heady sonnet]

Lawson .2 behind Checo ….

[glass garnet]

And also Mick looking good for réserve driver at Mercedes from what I heard

[heady sonnet]

A lot of shuffling

[glass garnet]

I’m guessing the Daruvala / Fittipaldi incident helped Sargeant in F2 as he’s getting closer to his Super License

[opaque crest]

Is this still going to be on time as the F2 race was delayed for about an hour?

[glass garnet]

Should be fine 😉

[mystic aurora]

No word of any delay on the pre-show so far

[glass garnet]

Sky trying to minimize the fact that Hamilton passed 2 cars on Red Flags 🚩 🙄

[opaque crest]

Not quite sure how you're not meant to pass them when you've got that much of a speed difference

Also the board definitely looked yellow as Lewis passed it and the flag wasn't even out yet

[glass garnet]

Let’s just say that if it was Max, all the Hamilton boys would be asking for a penalty… 🧐

[opaque crest]

Like the Max boys aren't fuming Lewis didn't get one?

[opaque crest]

Let's not pretend one set are worse than the other, they're both as bad as each other

[glass garnet]

100% agree with you

[opaque crest]

Hopefully we can get through the final weekend without any controversy. Highly unlikely though 😂

[mystic aurora]

[glass garnet]

I would like to see a SOLID last GP from Vettel… still can’t believe he decided to leave. 😕

[mystic aurora]

That would be brilliant to see.
Imagine there will be a pit lane ovation if he retires early

[opaque crest]

I think every F1 fan wants him to have a great last race. Definitely need some doughnuts

[chrome otter]

That’s what they always do. But oh well.

Better no penalties. Let them race

[glass garnet]

Well, already under 1:25:00

What a lap from Seb 🤩

[crude kiln]

Would had wanted another season for MSC. Always wanna give talents 2 seasons, and MSC's first one is hard to count considering the car. Feels like he's been getting up to speed lately as well.

[mystic aurora]

Partially agree. It does hurt the other teammate when they aren't being pushed tho.

[crude kiln]

Yeah but as I said he's been up to speed lately which makes it more sad.

[glass garnet]

Purple sector for Vettel

[mystic aurora]

Indeed. MAG may have mailed it in a few times this season, which didn't help

[rancid fox]

Vettel is doing well!

[jaunty cave]

I support max 1000% and I’ll never stop and I even just ordered maxs 2022 championship shirt and jumper but leclerc has come back all of a sudden I’m really happy for him, good on him. Im excited to see the fight of charles and perez

Cmon charles eclair

Wow

Well done

A second after I said that

[muted lava]

Come on Lando

[glass garnet]

Perez (#2) vs Leclerc (#3) … can’t wait to see how it unfolds tomorrow

[opaque crest]

Max saying on the radio, "that's good teamwork that" 😂

I'm predicting top 6 going to be boring tomorrow and stay as it is. RBs will run away, Ferrari and Merc just don't have pace this weekend

[opal galleon]

It’s Abu Dhabi overall tho

[junior minnow]

Well you never know

We might get some rain 😂😂

[glass garnet]

Well, if it was F1 Clash, then Max would be back to 8th or 9th after turn one 😂😂😂

[nocturne laurel]

Redbull making funny of Ferrari strategies

[distant sentinel]

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[heady sonnet]

Sargeant's points last races are not that promising

[opaque crest]

Hope for Mick yet? Have Williams said who will drive if he doesn't get his SL points?

[heady sonnet]

It's not very likely and they haven't said anything about it

[winter ledge]

How much did he need? If Logan not get enough points, could Mick go to Williams?🧐

[kind reef]

He needs to finish 8th or better in f2 to get enough points, but better would be him to finish top 5 for quaranteed points without needing those extra points

[wind aspen]

Silly English media saying max said perez crashed on purpose at Monaco to get pole. Perez started p3 not pole...

[opaque crest]

Actually they said it was "to stop Max getting pole" not for Checo to get pole...

[wind aspen]

It was some silly paper who said that mind but either way couldn't imagine perez crashing on purpose

[opaque crest]

It's irrelevant anyway really, nothing will change now.
Hopefully we can have an exciting final race to end this bore of a season and Seb gets a good result 🤞🏻

[opal galleon]

All focus on Seb but we are also losing Ric 😭

[heady sonnet]

He’s not retiring though

Just taking a sabbatical

[desert grail]

Also remember Danny Ric is starting P13 got a grid peanalty for crashing with K-MAG at Brazil

[crude kiln]

@opaque crest @wind aspen What I've seen and think about this is:

• There is a video interview of Max saying he did what he did cuz of sth Checo did earlier in the season, and he had already told the team before

• Many have analysed Checos "crash" in Monaco and it does seem very weird what he did

• IF he did that on purpose it had nothing to do with Max but the fact that he was sitting P3, which is still a very good position, wasn't improving on that lap and would had slipped down the order if things had went on

Regardless if true or not it's quite silly by Max feeling the need for revenge one time this long after and when he's already wrapped up the title 😆

[rigid bobcat]

Latifi could put it in the wall one last time, late on. That could liven it up

[opaque crest]

Totally agree, the whole Monaco thing is purely speculation.

I could understand Max's reaction if it had cost him the title or the title was still on the line but that result is irrelevant because of where we are. Sometimes you just need to let things go and move on.

I've seen a load of Max fans saying it's fine now because he gave Checo the tow. Like that equals swapping positions and points 😂.

[heady sonnet]

All good then?

[jaunty cave]

HAHAHAH the guy on the mic was singing super max 🤣🤣🤣

And now the crowd is singing it too

[heady sonnet]

Stupid question

Why do the cars from the same team in f2 have different liveries ? Just noticed it

[crude kiln]

Didn't know that was the case in F2 but it's always annoyed me when trying to watch Indycar 😅

[heady sonnet]

Me neither, at least didn’t notice it before. Like Nissany and Iwasa - one with Red Bull livery the other not. Or Lawson and Sargeant - Red Bull and Williams 😂

[opaque crest]

Maybe they have to have the livery of the team the driver is junior of? Just a guess, no actual idea 😂

[heady sonnet]

I thought the same

So many Red Bulls 🤣

[heady sonnet]

Wait it’s now ?!?

I’m sleeping lol

[mystic aurora]

Lol

[heady sonnet]

I thought 3

[mystic aurora]

☕

[heady sonnet]

Definitely

Was just slacking around waiting for one more hour 😂

[muted lava]

Lando is going to win

[sturdy moss]

Does Hamilton think that’s allowed on the opening lap 🤣 two years in a row

[mystic aurora]

Lol

[sturdy moss]

Well he got away with it last year haha

[opaque crest]

Where else was he meant to go?

[heady sonnet]

So

Last year same thing max did

[sturdy moss]

I know just funny that same thing as last year

[heady sonnet]

He had to give it back

Now ? Will he ?

Or it’s “acceptable” again? As it’s Ham

[sturdy moss]

Last year stewards said he gave back any time gained but not position

[opaque crest]

Shouldn't do, wasn't any space left for him on track

[sturdy moss]

This apparently 😂

[heady sonnet]

There wasn’t any space left last year also

[crude kiln]

It's the fact that he left the track and kept position cuz of it. He did against Max last season as well and didn't have to give the position back for some very odd reason.

[heady sonnet]

And everyone jumped on him that he cut it

He has to do it

[chrome otter]

That’s then Lewis Hamilton line. Same corner

[sturdy moss]

Rename the corner after him 😂

[chrome otter]

Yea

[opaque crest]

Because he couldn't stay on track without causing an accident. You can't give someone no space

Would you rather he stayed on and hit the other car?

[heady sonnet]

Say it to ham 🤣

[sturdy moss]

Yes but then taking a huge chunk of time too

[heady sonnet]

Or memory is a bit of a double edged sword

[crude kiln]

Doesn't matter. Was Max's corner last season and Sainz' this one.

[chrome otter]

Lol 😂 different rules for Hamilton apparently

[opaque crest]

What makes it their corner? That's never been clear.

I've said this the whole time, you can't just dive bomb someone, leave no space and claim its your corner. That's not good racing

[sturdy moss]

There is a very specific FIA rule about Hamilton and turn 6

[crude kiln]

That they're ahead. OT was done this year and last one. He got told to give it back now.

[heady sonnet]

But last it was fine 🥹

[silent forge]

Hamilton is 5

Russel is 7

6

[opaque crest]

You can't say the OT is done when there's another corner literally just after it.

I get why he's been told to give it back but wish people would stop blaming Lewis each time. At least he avoids the collision rather than just crashing anyway

[chrome otter]

5 laps before giving place back finally

[silent forge]

Leclerc coming to podium

[opaque crest]

You have two options there, Lewis does what he does and they carry on racing. Lewis stays on track and takes him and Sainz out of the race. What would we all rather?

[crude kiln]

According to the rules OT is "done". Isn't exactly a new rule.

Not odd ppl are blaming HAM when he oddly enough got away with it last season, and since he has the most incidents this season 😆

[silent forge]

Hamilton needs to take lecrec

Must

Take

[sturdy moss]

I agree nowhere for Lewis to go but to then just ignore turn 7 and cut across to the straight is a bit much

[silent forge]

Yea

[chrome otter]

Ferrari looks weak

[opaque crest]

It's never been clear who has the right to the corner though.

He didn't get away with it, he gave up the gap he built because of it. Would you rather he'd stayed on track and both him and Max had crashed last year? Personally I'd rather they avoid it and have the rest of the race to go

[silent forge]

Ferrari looks very weak

Red bull is just chilling

[opaque crest]

What else is he meant to do? Go back on track over curbs lol?

[silent forge]

Mercedes is working hard

[opaque crest]

He has to rejoin safely

[silent forge]

Bottas no words

Aaaaaaa

Sainz tools hamilton

Aaaaaa

Tooks

[crude kiln]

He got away with it since Max had done the overtake according to the rules. Was exact same thing as now when he had to give the position back. That he didn't last year was a referee mistake.

[opaque crest]

Let's not get into last year and referee mistakes, I think there's worse ones we could be talking about 😂

[mystic aurora]

[crude kiln]

Still doesn't change the fact we were discussing 😅 But let'd watch the race now. Already missed too much of it talking about this

[mystic aurora]

We need some Goatifi action

[opaque crest]

I said top 6 would stay the same and be boring 😴

[sturdy moss]

See Jeff post above haha

That Sainz radio going straight into the Ferrari 2022 clown album

[mystic aurora]

Seb pushing 260 KM/h on the outside 🔥

[crude kiln]

Will we get HAM's first technical DNF in 4 years?😱

[tulip drum]

Ham having problems

[mystic aurora]

4 years? Wow

[crude kiln]

Yeah it's crazy

[mystic aurora]

Oof

[heady sonnet]

Yea but those referee mistakes in ham’s favor are completely overlooked

[tulip drum]

Must say mercs durability has always been great

[chrome otter]

By all the English media for sure their golden boy never does something wrong.

[opal galleon]

yooo I am late. What did I miss.

[tulip drum]

Can't blame max for pulling away he is just too quick for Perez

[mystic aurora]

Bit of a toss up between SAI and HAM. Positions were swapped. Yadda yadda

[tulip drum]

Yeah cos FIA is merc

[sturdy moss]

Sky sport yes Not all of it

[opal galleon]

bruh this race is already boring

[sturdy moss]

Unsafe release was exciting for a couple of seconds

[opal galleon]

lmao unsafe release on karen

[tulip drum]

So will Russell get a penalty for unsafe release

[sturdy moss]

He should

[crude kiln]

No I love the race so far! Alot of OT and alot of issues in the first pit stops as well 😅

[tulip drum]

Probably not

[opaque crest]

This whole rubbish about FIA is Merc or FIA is RB, can we leave that out of here? There's enough of that on Twitter, we don't need it here as well.

If you look at everything, all the decisions even themselves out. No team/driver has benefitted more than others

[heady sonnet]

What was it? Missed as I’m watching sporadically while on red lights 🤣

[opal galleon]

is this 2 stop race?
why pitting so early?

[heady sonnet]

Read somewhere that this year it might be due to the new tyreS

[sturdy moss]

Nothing special but Ferrari radio to Sainz saying tyre deg looks better than expected. Sainz was silent for a second and just said I disagree

[opaque crest]

Danny Ric said he wasn't sure, it was a toss up between 1 and 2 stops

[heady sonnet]

😂😂😂🤣

[opal galleon]

wow I saw an OT

[heady sonnet]

Floor broken?

[tulip drum]

Ham thinks so yes

[heady sonnet]

That’s for jumping over the kerbs 🤣

[sturdy moss]

Ham and Sainz had a battle at turn 6 lap 1 ham forced wide over big kerb

[opal galleon]

merc running their car always so low. basically a cancer against kerbs

[heady sonnet]

I saw the jump

Some room for Ferrari moment 😂

[tulip drum]

Ferrari strategy

[mystic aurora]

5s to RUS

[heady sonnet]

Poor Karen

[opal galleon]

😱

[heady sonnet]

Not even his fault 🤣

[tulip drum]

Will they let Sai pass if he can

[opal galleon]

Why

[heady sonnet]

Doubt it

Not needed

Alonso 💪

And another dnf lol

[chrome otter]

So sad for Alonso

[mystic aurora]

[heady sonnet]

?!

I’m being held up by max ? When he’s 2 sec ahead ?

What am I missing 😂

[mystic aurora]

OCO struggling... not looking good for Alpine

[opaque crest]

If Alpine DNF, what do Mclaren need?

[mystic aurora]

[chrome otter]

Max upping his pace

[glass garnet]

Hmmm ! I feel it’s not going to finish well for Perez

[chrome otter]

Perez has medium left and leclerc goes to hards

[glass garnet]

We’ll see

[indigo slate]

Perez and leclerc both showing only the 1 medium they started on

[glass garnet]

Perez took Hards

[chrome otter]

Hmm okay you are correct

[indigo slate]

Max has extra medium and mercs as well

Here’s the call to slow up leclerc maybe

[chrome otter]

Team orders for red Bull. Perez will be infront of Verstappen after his stop

[sturdy moss]

Will Ferrari not pit and useSainz to hold a Perez back

[mystic aurora]

Ferrari gambling to the end

[indigo slate]

True. Leclerc only option is probably now go 1 stop

[sturdy moss]

Sainz could go full on Perez last season mode and give Charles a free stop

Wait have Ferrari possibly found a better race strategy than red bull 😂

[indigo slate]

Latifi!!!!!!!!!!

[glass garnet]

Mick … you’ve just been Goatified

[opal galleon]

Did Latifi just crash on same place as last year???

[heady sonnet]

Wasn’t it mag ?

Ah mick indeed

Lol

[mystic aurora]

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

[heady sonnet]

It’s Ferrari though

[sturdy moss]

True they would stick Charles on the inters

Safer not to stop 😂

[heady sonnet]

Sainz did pit 🤣

[faint trail]

Goatifi

[indigo slate]

There went leclercs defense

[heady sonnet]

Not sure Charles can last till the end

[chrome otter]

Tyres drop off to fast. Don’t think any can go to end

[strange dagger]

Everyone vote seb DOTD

[sturdy moss]

Ferrari trying to pit Leclerc??? Way too late for that

[jaunty cave]

Did it before it’s too late

[indigo slate]

Yea they already committed. But only now do they see they’ll get passed at end 😂

[strange dagger]

Yep saw it pop up and immediately voted

[rare ferry]

Not much help going on in Red Bull😂

[jaunty cave]

I didn’t see it i just thought oh sht I need to do that

I remembered everyone was saying to vote him

[glass garnet]

Hamilton giving Perez some of his own médecine

[opal galleon]

😱

[mystic aurora]

This holdup may give FER the confidence to pit LEC

[stiff wasp]

💀

[opal galleon]

🥱🥱

[opaque crest]

If Stroll doesn't let Seb get points I'll dislike him even more 😠

[crude kiln]

Great race for being Abu Dhabi!

[sturdy moss]

Team orders in Brazil looking like an even bigger issue now

[opal galleon]

Just crash into Lec, job done ✅

[opaque crest]

I may be wrong but Charles would still be ahead of Checo even if Max had let him past?

[sturdy moss]

Yes you are right, forgot points difference isn’t F1 clash system 😂

[indigo slate]

Perez personal best

[mystic aurora]

5 laps remaining for the Season 🥲

[glass garnet]

What’s the guy suppose to do ? He’s got fresher tires, faster pace and the team is still looking at passing Alfa Romeo

[opal galleon]

Thank god

[glass garnet]

The issue is much more on Aston Martin strategist that got it wrong… again

[opal galleon]

Gg Hamilton

[indigo slate]

Yellow flag to end hahaha

[sturdy moss]

Oh my it happened

[crude kiln]

Unless he faked it 😆

[opal galleon]

Boba milking this technical dnf thing for years 🤣

[mystic aurora]

@crude kiln Gets the win

[sturdy moss]

I hate this car…I’m stopping here 😂

[opal galleon]

Loool Perez,

[rare ferry]

Great job with helping Checo Max…

[glass garnet]

Leclerc will finish P2 for the year

[opaque crest]

Lewis going to not race in AD ever again after this

[indigo slate]

Perez still got .6 that lap with the traffic

[chrome otter]

Lol what can he do ? Drop back 8 seconds ?

[sturdy moss]

If he slows down Leclerc gets DRs

[mystic aurora]

Well spotted

[opal galleon]

Lec P2

[glass garnet]

And Aston Martin are looking good to get past Alfa Romeo if Vettel can get past Ricciardo

Gooooooo Vettel !!!!!

[opaque crest]

Lewis faked it and retired just so Seb got points in his last race

[opal galleon]

Bruh

[sturdy moss]

Lol 😂 Sam bird on BBC commentary just referred to 2nd as Vice World Champion 😂😂😂 that’s a bit much

[opal galleon]

Gooooo lec!!!

[indigo slate]

Lec saved enough ready with battery

[opal galleon]

!!!!

[tulip drum]

Perez always been slow

[opal galleon]

Yeee Lec 🙂

[chrome otter]

To bad for Perez. Not fast enough

[rare ferry]

Red Bull☕️

[crude kiln]

LEC deserves 2nd. It's clear he is better than PER.

[sturdy moss]

Lap 15 pit stop was bad call

[tulip drum]

Go max

[opal galleon]

Seb got point 🙂

[chrome otter]

His tires were gone

[indigo slate]

Who’s ready for March? 🏎️

[opal galleon]

Aaaannnddd here comes the long long 80 days?

[opaque crest]

That race basically summed up this season. Started with promise and then faded out into super boring times

[opal galleon]

Factsss

[tulip drum]

What a boring end but well done to all drivers and teams.

[sturdy moss]

And now we get the constant when does the new season start questions in clash chat

[rigid bobcat]

I wonder if RB will say they did everything they could to get Checo 2nd place

[tulip drum]

Lol so true

[glass garnet]

So even if Max had let Checo pass him in Brazil, it wouldn’t have changed the result

[chrome otter]

Great season finally other teams fighting for wins and not Mercedes

[mystic aurora]

Liveries, testing, controversy. Joy & Bliss

[opaque crest]

Mate, you need to go watch some old seasons of F1. This was by no means a "great season"

[opal galleon]

This was a very very decent

[opaque crest]

Distinctly average would be my description

[mystic aurora]

Far more entertaining

[sturdy moss]

What year did we get 6 winners in first 6 races?

[chrome otter]

I know mate but compared with the last 8 years it has been a good season

[opal galleon]

Just give me the 20% discount on F1 tv pro already xD

[tulip drum]

Can't blame max hey Perez just don't have that pace for his team to help him

[sturdy moss]

Think it included crashtor Maldonado

[glass garnet]

You go Seb !!! You deserve all the donuts

[jaunty cave]

Amazing race to the 3

Wonderful fight

[opaque crest]

The start I'd agree. 2nd half it's just been one team dominating again

[heady sonnet]

2012 7 different ones

[opal galleon]

Better than normally. But I would like more fights coming into 2023.

[tulip drum]

Seb legend

[heady sonnet]

So would a swap last week have helped ? No right

[opaque crest]

Really hoping next season we have something similar with different race winners. If we can have a 3 way season long fight between RB, Ferrari and Merc that would be great

[heady sonnet]

We should

[mystic aurora]

Certainly coming.
The new design has worked more often than not.

[rigid bobcat]

He’s much slower than Max. If RB were prioritising Checo’s 2nd place today though - which they said they were - they should’ve swapped them at the start of the race and Max could easily have blocked everyone behind while Checo waltzed off into the distance.
But they didn’t.

[tulip drum]

I would love all teams fighting for the title

[heady sonnet]

Merc are quite close now

[opal galleon]

“Close”

[mystic aurora]

*TM

[heady sonnet]

Well compared to the start they are close 😂

I’m sure they will be much better next year

[tulip drum]

Nah don't think Perez had the pace max would have caught him easily just slowing down the team

[opaque crest]

He missed out by 1 point so it actually would have done 😂😂

[heady sonnet]

Aren’t wins the tiebreaker ?

[tulip drum]

Lec deserves 2nd

[opal galleon]

Wow so much boos

[opaque crest]

Probably, forgot about that part.

[crude kiln]

2012 🔥

[glass garnet]

No , he missed out by 3

[opaque crest]

Odd, they just said on interview he missed out by 1

[tulip drum]

And the crowd being idiots again

[heady sonnet]

Sky? 🤣

[glass garnet]

Yeah, we’ll he’s wrong . P2 = 18pts vs P3 = 15pts

[heady sonnet]

They are booing max I assume ?

Not watching anymore

[rigid bobcat]

Fastest lap of the season is the tie-breaker 😂

[jaunty cave]

Why the hell was so many people booing max as soon as he walked up

[tulip drum]

Sad to see ham retirement last race

[crude kiln]

Seb went from bald to this in a season 😅

[opal galleon]

The hair transplant is working

[rigid bobcat]

Because they don’t like him?

[jaunty cave]

He’s done nothing wrong

[opal galleon]

Ferrari is honestly so mid.

[rigid bobcat]

What reception does Hamilton get in the Netherlands?

[jaunty cave]

Idk

[crude kiln]

Will take a while for the Checo drama to calm down. But some will always hate Max and some will always hate Lewis. Sad side of some sports fans.

[jaunty cave]

Haha yeahhh

[opal galleon]

Wc time

[tulip drum]

Hey man it's not the drivers fault none of them they do great driving out there risking it all

[glass garnet]

And everyone will just forget about Goatifi over the next 80 days 😂😂😂

[opal galleon]

I am so tired of Latifi. I am glad he wi be gone

[tulip drum]

Ok so soccer world cup up next

[rigid bobcat]

He’s so far off the pace. He doesn’t merit a place in F1 so it’s good to see somebody else getting a chance next season

[crude kiln]

I think this was a good season after all compared to most ones we've had last 10 years. A very good one in fact.

[jaunty cave]

It was a brilliant season

[rigid bobcat]

I don’t know about that. It was great that cars could stay so much closer together with the new design! That’s a big improvement. The drivers championship was over way too early to be interesting though, and the constructors was effectively over around the same time. The main entertainment was Ferrari’s decision making.

Just my view though. The season was ok but hopefully others enjoyed it more

[crude kiln]

Yeah but the majority of other seasons for the last 10 years have been Merc basically lapping the rest. Now we had 2-3 teams fighting for it most season. WC was over too soon for sure, but we can't expect every season to be like the last one.

[rare ferry]

Football*

[rare ferry]

Not really, after Max found momentum, he was clear

This season had us in the first half

But Ferrari being Ferrari

[crude kiln]

Was still 3 teams able to win many races or fight for podium closer to the winner. Miles better than only Merc being way above the rest of the teams for many years.

[jaunty cave]

Danke seb
Bye legend😭😔

[rigid bobcat]

I know what you mean but the reg changes were designed to minimise the chance of one team being dominant. Only one season in but so far it’s just a different dominant team. Hopefully the big 3 will get a bit closer together next season, and the teams next up (McLaren/Alpine) aren’t so far off too

[opaque crest]

I wouldn't say 3 teams could win "most" races, RB were too dominant for that. 3 teams able to win races I would say.

Better than Merc dominated seasons, however I'd still describe it as an average season

[crude kiln]

Well tbf Ferrari Q'ed better but then messed up too many races 😅 Otherwise it would had been closer in that aspect.

[crude kiln]

Yeah that's what I meant. I enjoyed the season at least and hope we keep having 3 teams fighting for poles or wins. Feels to me like so many set the bar to last season and expects it should be like that always to be happy. Like they started watching that season and don't know how it used to be. It's miles better now.

[opaque crest]

Yeah I think there's always going to be dominant periods in sports but hopefully F1 is just coming out of one.

If you started watching last season, this season would be rubbish lol.

Let's hope for some good wheel to wheel racing next year and a title fight for the whole season. With the drivers and teams up there, it has potential to be amazing.

[rigid bobcat]

I’ve been watching since the 90s. It’s probably why this season feels ok without being great. There are plenty of seasons to compare to. Some extremely dull, some very exciting. And plenty somewhere in between

[crude kiln]

Yeah if you have that range to compare with I can imagine! But last 10 years before this season we've had like 2 seasons that weren't dominated by 1 team/driver.

[rigid bobcat]

Definitely some of those were dull! Nobody wants to watch total dominance

[jaunty cave]

Who thinks max will smash it next year too

[heady sonnet]

At this rate very likely

Depends how bad tunnel time hurts them

[crude kiln]

I believe in Merc next season.

[heady sonnet]

They didn’t push for the p2 😂

[muted lava]

I believe in McLaren

[jaunty cave]

Don't forget about the 7 million dollar penalty for redbull

[heady sonnet]

Forget the money, the wind tunnel time hurts

I don’t think they care for the 7m fine

[heady sonnet]

I'm watching the race again

I still can't understand how did Max "hold back" Checo when he was so far in front

[runic field]

inb4 they use alpha Tauri wind tunnel time for red bull 😂

[heady sonnet]

They are going to share less parts 😉 But that won't work that well

[glass garnet]

Question regarding wind tunnel: so how does it work in the end ? Is it like the team that finished 1st gets the least amount of time and then team #10 gets more than others ?

[heady sonnet]

Yes

Normally I believe it’s 80% for the winner and 120% for the last guy

Something like this

[opaque crest]

Money is irrelevant to a team like RB, especially as it doesn't come out of their budget cap. The fine is actually pointless

[glass garnet]

So … potentially, Williams could get better in 2023 with all that wind tunnel time they have 🧐

[rigid bobcat]

Potentially. They have less designers and analysts reviewing the data to develop the car though. Their wind tunnel use will likely be much less productive than when the big teams use it, so they need that extra time

[heady sonnet]

As Stix said - having the right engineers can make a huge difference and will overcome a lot of the reduced wind tunnel time. I’m sure if Williams had Newey they would be so much in front it wouldn’t even be considered fair 🤣

[rigid bobcat]

I’d love to see Williams back up there like they were in the 90s

[opaque crest]

I don't have Newey and I've got Williams up to 3rd in the championship by 2026 😂

Although both my drivers have just ruined the last race of the season. Piastri was leading comfortably, randomly crashes. Albon sitting in 3rd on opposite strategy to 1st and 2nd, randomly crashes 😭

[heady sonnet]

Manager ? I’ve yet to play it

[glass garnet]

What’s the tie breaker here ?

[wind aspen]

Probs higher finish somewhere for one of the alfa drivers

[heady sonnet]

Indeed

I believe Alfa had a 5th place

[opaque crest]

Yup, I wanted a challenge so trying to turn Williams into title contenders. Its very time consuming 😂

[sturdy moss]

I managed it with Williams. Only using preset part development settings too but was season 5 by the time I won the titles

[paper lynx]

do we have a official link(from FiA or Formula1.com) of the entry list of 2022 abu dhabi post season test?

[jaunty cave]

Ho aperto le ultime due ricompense del pit pass premium ma non mi è arrivato nulla che debbo fare

[opal basalt]

zero out of two attempts trying to get this in the right channel 🤣

[paper lynx]

not these, i mean sth from fia.com or formula1.com, not othee sources

[heady sonnet]

Ric confirmed as 3rd driver