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Max, Charles (kinda), Carlos, Lewis, Dani Ric and Checho give us their thoughts after the Singapore GP

Proximity chat
neeeeeeeeEEEEOOOOOWWWWWWwwwwwwwwww
Exactly
I'd pay for this
anyone else absolutely hate the times of the japanese gp race and practices and qualis
7am race 😮💨
literally
Yep I hate it but at least I don't live in Australia and have it like almost every race XD
Normally I would hate these kind of times due to me living here in Europe since its early.
But this time its fine 😄
I love it, watching the race with coffee and you can do whatever you want the rest of the Sunday
...sometimes Latifi 😆
After ruining Zhou's race I couldn't stop thinking about how different the past 3 seasons would've been if he never gotten a seat smh
Think for a second the amount of money he's cost his team... now think about the amount he cost other teams on top of that 😵💫
Did he deadass say this I'm crying
Yep he did
Red Bull has admitted that it has interpreted the Financial Regulation differently from the FIA. There are 6 cost items they are discussing.
Some could save Red Bull from a major punishment. The certificates of conformity will be released tomorrow.
#Formula1 #F1 #JapaneseGP
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Where did they admit? Would be interesting read
8 dnfs for alfa this season so far? 2 were caused by latifi so Vasseur has the point
anyone else thought that race busted all over their face like their ucle would, or was it jcut me because it was such a exciting race😑
I’m gonna be honest the excuse Daniel fans make to criticize mclaren for cutting the contract is pathetic.
What is it ?
McLaren be like : what do you people want, we still have an Aussie on the team so shut up 😂🤣😂
They complain that mclaren broke the contract but in reality any team would do thesame if he’s being out performed by their team mate by that margin
Lol even Sky went on and started to backtrack
Sky Sports F1’s Ted Kravitz brings the latest on Red Bull’s rumoured 2021 budget cap breach, and says “we’re not going to have too many big surprises”.
#F1 #RedBull #SingaporeGP
Amateurish fanboys ….
Sky is so meh media.
Sky are on Toto’s payroll
uh? is that even real?
I can't find that document on FiA site
bruh fake no official statement anywhere.
Document cannot be found. No on on the media is talking about the verdict too.
Fake af
Really sorry if that was fake … I’ll remove from the chat
lol when the document was from tiktok or smh
you know its fake
Yeah ! Should’ve been more careful about that…. Again, I’m not one to put fake news out here, I will do my research next time before posting.
I don’t see anyone report anything tbh
FIA is trying to tease whole world.. I bet it would be classified as minor infringement and RB would get away with it
Or no infringement at all and Toto will break another headset
Lesser of 2 evil, convinces whole world it’s minor problem, and lose bit of image because now whole world assumes RB has crossed line significantly.
Or announce RB has crossed line and only monetary punishment announced and wait for Toto to scream down on everyone’s neck, would turn out very nasty compared to scenario 1
Waiting to see if red bull is clear to win constructor to give them a penalty that will not change the order at all. 😅
Now scene has been set that way that entire universe is made to believe RB has crossed cost cap 😂
Like they did for Perez. Wait until the end of the race to put a "penalty" that changes nothing
Toto’s silly tactics are being picked up quite well by Karen
They were debating 1 or 2 penalties, Ferrari wanted 2, Perez was sure it was one only and pulled a 7 sec gap
Weird that for the same infraction one is a warning and the other a penalty 😅
Tbh this was not happening for the first time, I mean in other races as well people behind SC were complaining and crossing line.. Maybe Perez did it little too much?
And they could have given the penalty way before the end of the race. Sure he deserved the win. No arguing about that. But the fia tainted the win.
I did see one issue, not two. Not sure what Ferrari were going for there but you can always try
Max also had a fail there ….
FIA 😂 is a joke.. Forget all serious issues and concentrate on silly things
Max overtook under SC, but ran straight out of track.. So there was no penalty I believe
Theres another rumour, de vries has signed with alpha tauri and gasly will be in apline
Mentioned it
People are not that confident since he’s a Merc driver but let’s see
I’d love a full Dutch roster in RB
Oh btw - Honda is returning now on the Red Bull / AT
BREAKING: The FIA won’t conclude analysis of financial submissions today.
New date is Monday 10 October.
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Confirmed or ? 😂
FIA delays publication of its inquiries into whether any team breached F1 budget cap in 2021 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/63134455
Saw a video on TikTok saying it had been released, went to check a better source and seen its been delayed. The FIA just need to sort it asap
Stop all the pointless speculation
They could really have done with it being out the way for this weekends race rather than another weekend overshadowed by it
I wish that Mercedes would be one to have exceeded the Cap … I would just love to see his face.
Who remembers this from 2007 ?
Oh, Karen

FIA plan - delay decisions after Japanese GP so Toto can keep going with his whine mode. Say everything is fine on Monday and Toto and Lulu fanboys will keep going for 2 weeks until next GP how unfair it is and how Red Bull cheated again. You keep the mill going
Going into Suzuka isn't easy. I keep thinking of Jules
Oh really ?
It’s not “mischief making” it’s pure rumor spreading, false information twisting and blatant lie to discredit a team just because a particular manager is still has trouble sleeping after getting his behind handed to him last year. A heavy fine should be handed
1 day ago and there was alot of speculation that day.
And we got left out with nothing that day so.
Not really news or report here. Should have been stated as
"opinion".
Hopefully ends on Monday
But foundations already laid for “look FIA is helping RB again”
Why? Because Toto said it 😂 and all the salty fanboys will gladly take it as the pure truth
I haven't followed along what has happened.
I just want to hear the verdict really.
i don't understad why are ppl so stupid to spread those infos from random website that are just creating clickbait news to make money from ads that are running on their website
race after race always something like this come up and ppl are running around internet posting this 💩 everywhere they can
I wouldn’t call Sky a random website
Sky f1 is the right holder for f1 in the uk until the end of the decade. Are they making clickbait titles and spreading 💩 information? Yes. Are they supposed to ? No. They are super biased
wasn't it originaly posted on some "random" website and thye just jump on it because they are british so they are biased towards merc, lewis, toto an karen? 😄
I don’t know where they got it from actually 🤣 but the rest is true
I think it was an e-mail from Toto to Sky that got this going 😂
We can at least conclude Toto and Sky are involved 😂
The true story is, many media’s or pretty much every media got journalist everywhere. They hear a rumour or talks it “automatically” state as news. But in reality a lot of these news are “opinions” from their journalist and then these media outlets post it out then it goes forward to third party media like Planet1 who has no control of the information that has been released from a media like Sky as an example. How sky is so involved in most of this rumours has to be that they pretty much own the place and most tv broadcast. Their journalist and people are always on the paddock as well. Talking about what I know and think tho. I hate main stream media (media’s such as Sky, Mirror, Dailymail etc) I only follow journalists.
Sky is basically on Toto / Merc payroll 😂 they can’t be more biased than this
I hope that RB is alright with the Cap and that they sue the heck out of Toto , Mercedes and Ferrari for defamation …. 😏
Sue sky would be the most ideal. A man can say whatever they want to say so.
This is what I hate with mainstream media’s. They can build agendas and do whatever they want. As long as it produce clicks and attention it’s a W for them.
Fine Toto, sue Sky
Hola
Thought it was real until I read Lewis dsqed from WDC for wearing a nose ring 🤣
How’s the track…. Wet
lol latifi not even knowing the track and going to dead end 😄
tells a lot about his driving skills
Guess they don’t let him on the simulator just in case he sticks it in the wall somehow
Also why did he try to blame the car 🤣
Man … can’t wait to see who everyone will be bashing next year when he’s not there 
Stroll
Or Piastri?
Why ? Stroll isn’t bad… he’s got a bad car, other wise I feel everyone is just underestimating him.
Piastri is actually good, doubt it
Take Latifi, put him in a TB and he’s still gonna qualify 20th… put Stroll in a RB and he’ll be top 8 in qualif every weekend.
Anyone else thinks that Mick won’t be around next year after today’s crash during FP1 ?
Just watched it 😂 takes some special imagination to blame the car for turning where you wanted it to turn 😂
tá louco Man
And who’s Fabrizio Romano ? 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe the most reliable football journalist. When he tweets "here we go" it's done.
Oh the domino falls
Pierre alpine, nick at, mick Williams ? Who will be in Haas then?
I think Ric will take a year off as a reserve driver for Merc as the rumors say
I wonder what “🤔” response from Alpine means
BTW… I would be happy for him if that’s what Gasly’s looking for
Well, I guess Mercedes can’t wait for the announcement … so De Vries to AT pretty much done
Fabrizio doing Here We Go in different sport 😘
CONFIRMED (part two): Nyck de Vries joins AlphaTauri to replace Pierre Gasly #F1
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welcome to the team, @nyckdevries! 🇳🇱 ✌️ the Dutchman will replace the outbound @pierregasly for 2023!
full story 👉 https://t.co/9ZN4YEvE2j
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WHAT WHAT WHAT
So its just Williams and Haas with one seat left each then?
Yep!
See, nothing extraordinary about a Merc driver in Rb !
I was one of the ones believing it’s possible
The hell RB
Why didn’t they warn max ?
Why do I get the full story in Japanese?
When I click full story 👉 link
Ask Alphatauri, looks fancy if you ask me 🙂
Lucky no grid penalty
Wouldn’t be surprised
F1 website says he has been handed a reprimand but keeps pole. So slap on the wrist
One did it in an alpha Tauri 💩box tho 😂
AT was bad just this year
Previous ones were more than fine
And Pierre also was driving an actual RB
For 6 months. 😅
Still better than force India 🤣 or wherever Esteban was
True 😂
Don’t get me wrong. I’m super surprised about Pierre’s stats
I always thought he was miles ahead of Esteban
But seeing them like this is like wth 😂
Esteban is underrated and get 💩 on everytime by the Alonso fanboys 😮💨
Everytime Ocon is mentionned you know he will get badmouthed by the Alonso army it's insane
He’s not the kindest of teammates 😂 And I’d love to see how they get along
But kudos to Alpine for making such a team
Full French. Now they have to be blue / white / red fully next year 😂
Reliability is still 💩 whatever the drivers are. Too many DNFs
They could improve !
I realised that Russell ended his top 5 streak in Singapore
🤣
Is there rain in the forecast for the race ?
Oh ! That’ll be a dandy!!! 😏
Set to record the race, just going to leave it recording in case the delay is extreme
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sad news:
I hope it's gonna be an standing start
Here we go bois
Red Flag 🚩
well you know, 2 standing starts may be better than one
Awesome first lap 🙂
Drivers can’t see anything
Bro i swear it must be really Hard for them
Sainz still is the king of gravel
How is no one using wets?
Heavy rain next 10min or so. The rest is going to be light rain.
Wow I can see why Gasly was angry
Can you explain, I don’t understand?
Considering what happened at this track in 2014 this is shocking
Ah there was a tractor on the track. Didn’t saw or knew that. Now I understand.
On a lighter note…AlphaTauri.Fashion 😂
Yea looks that way ☹️
unless we get only 1 hour of racing
cuz till 7:50-8pm there is mid-heavy rain expected
and the 3 hours limit finishes at 9:00pm
Yea that water has to go somewhere first and there is zero wind and it’s not going to be sunny
it's either 1h of wet tires race, or nothing at all
i hope for the hour at least
to watch something
woke up for this at 6 am sleeping only 2 hr
not a real sport
We got 1h and 30min left. This very much look like another Belgium GP.
extreme wets are the mozt pointless thing in f1
maybe in 15 minutes we'll get a restart
not happening
L
cant drivers do a meeting
if they want to race why not
Damn that start by max
I am pretty sure if they did had this meeting they wouldn’t drive anyway. Due to them not seeing anything while driving so.
he did an anti-stroll move and used the best part of the track
nvm
we aint getting the race
welp gg
Just woken up, so glad I didn't set my alarm for this
Yeah just been reading catching up. Sounds like the issue with the truck is the most controversial thing
I didn’t have alarm for this either but somehow my body knew it was F1 time so I woke up 5min before race start
now it seems so
but it'll resume heavier in 30 minutes
fk man
f1 retired from racing in wets
😂 I didn't get to sleep until 4 hours before it started so no way I was waking up
1 hr and 15 min left no decision
should have started the race earlier
but that's FIA for us
we wont even see 10 laps probably
probability is we wont see anything else
Nah this is going to be another Belgium. They probably going to take some laps in yellow then crown this as a race lol.
istg if they do this
let the drivers do formation lap lol
how will the track improve if they dont race+
magic
Why don’t they have any better than medical car to spray off the water away
Feels like we said this last week but anyone heard of road sweepers???
And people complained about brooms last week 🤣
hamilton insta story lol
1h left
ohhh finally
Starting in 7 mins?
Earlier they did this then said nope with 90 seconds to go
Ah OK. Guess I'll put it on just in case lol
The crowd is hype
Latifi going to crash behind the safety car?
Merc were good in wet on Friday so no surprise he want to race
40min race 😭
Sprint race
tbf radar forecast is promising
sprint racr
at least we'll get something
not bad
theres a pool the curve before the snake lol
2 laps then either Latifi or Mick in a wall and it will be over
2 twins
a dnf or 2
Stick radio on lol
Max champion regardless
Sprint race ? Sprint race points ?
rolling start as forecast gave rain after the 3 hours mark
Just not today
If no one get a point. Max will be crowned as champion.
mercedez winning im afraid
Checo takes Charles our = profit 🤣
41min let’s goo
Latifi going to inters, next stop the wall
Russell is such a Karen now. So sad 🥲
Again? What did he do
Guy is just complaining a lot man
I think Karen should be retired and George should be used instead
Lol they got overtaken that easy
With these conditions, you never know
I’ll watch it later pf
latifi 9th is a dub
No because there is still a sprint race in Brazil
hamilton having close lap times to max and charles is odd
hopefully he wont f up like in singapore
Same
How’s lando losing time to latifi without latifi gaining anytime😂😂😂
Karen now congratulating himself on the radio 😂
lmao
George karenssell
national treasure
?! For what
Karen Russell is now the worst person character wise on the grid it appears
He did a good overtake "nice overtake that was" 😂
renault's engine bullying mercedes'
Straight line speed powerful
Lol
Why do we have this silly 3 hour rule? This could actually be quite interesting if it carried on
I think it’s because of logistics
Sunset in 20 minutes
and charles went on a tour
Lmao I’m so pissed where is the straight line speed for Lewis lol
What is Mercedes’ doing lol
0 aero in that mercedes in the straights
Ik they gotta work on that
hopefully the W14 is more like the W12 or the W10
Hopefully
those 2 were so good in the straights
But ocon did defend for his life lol
indeed
lec maybe penalty ? 👀
Idk he ran a bit wide
if he gets pen max wont win wdc anyway
He didn’t push perez out or anything
Could be
so it's about the podium
LEC 5 SEC
He got a pen?
Yes
Yep
Damn
Oof
Tough
so charles is out of wdc and perez is still in
He fought man
With Charles out he won
nah perez still in
I mean max still gonna win in the end lol
Yessir
GG
I just want lewis to win his 8th
wait he won?
What???
2021 was a rough year
HE WON
What?
HE WON
Oh wait ya cause he needed to be 8 clear of Charles
me as well
MAX VERSTAPPEN SECOND TITLE
but max was too good
lewis 2020 moment
Charles got the pen moved down to 3rd Perez’s didn’t have enough points to stay in contention
Until tomorrow 😜😂
actually yh 2022 is a redbull remake of 2020 mercedes
Lmao fr
unless fia pulls something out from the budget cap
They dominating
yep
Hopefully next year is a better year for Mercedes and Lewis
Imma say lewis still has 5 more years
i hope for lewis to win a race before end of 2022
That’s potential 2 or 3 more championships
2/3 in good shape, 5 is a stretch
Mercedes can still get 2nd in wcc, season is not over
I hope the wN is as slow as this so that pr*ck can whine more
If everything goes their way
That was very underwhelming 😂
did they count right?
That’s what I heard lol.
george?
Karen yes
lol
Him and Toto talked or whatever and he said he can still go on for another 5 or something
I thought Perez should he 3 or lower
yh in the interview
but all depends on mercedes cars now
3h20min race
oop
True they better not f it up
indeed underwhelming
It was only a 49 min race no
Ya
boring
I thought there would be more excitement to him being world champion 😂
Woah, when did he hurt you? 😂
Lol the rain
ye
at least they didnt pull a spa moment
Go back to last year and I was supporting him. But not this whiny arrogant entitled brat that he turned into as soon as he was a Merc driver
being 1st with no spray
he had clear visibility and he went on paddles to cool down the tyres
perfect race
Money changes people lol
I know, just haven't seen you speak that strongly against someone before lol. He has totally changed since being in the merc
fame hurts
he's the next meme after latifi's departure
It’s ridiculous, acts like he’s the 7 title driver
Bro but fr I was thinking about getting popcorn for ocon and Lewis
They showed their fight for 80% of the race lol
Quite entertaining
Just give max his title
Lmao word
and lewis who's usually called arrogant, doesnt care much and he's chill
LH stans tho are mad
cant imagine how much twitter is boiling rn
YEEEEEEESSSSSSS WOOOHOHOHOOOOO
imagine ferrari f up and mercedes finishes 2nd
doubt but 🤷♂️
Bro but the real winner of this race were the Japanese fans
Anyway what did I miss from the race?
Carlos Sainz exits the race
Tractor almost kills gasly
Lmao
japanese fans are maybe the best in the world
over 5 hours in the rain, not a single fight or hate chants
always smiling and chilling and simply enjoying
monza was a horrific disaster
They didn’t learn …
Sadly
fia never does
They haven’t announced it yet on social media which is weird
i gotta say i'm disappointed
it's so underwhelming man
It must be so hard to make decisions right guy!!!!!!
Lmao it’s pretty common sense to let all the drivers go in the pits
And then clean up
Next race would be better, more partying in Texas
You couldn’t see a thing when the race initially started
why are the tv production continuing as if full pounts were given?
The English talked about, continuing after a red flag can result in full points
at least more clear than Masi's fraud last year
I think they said something about clearing the 50% mark
Ig they did that
So full points must’ve been awarded
For the amount of laps they did
ok, now it is as official as it can be:)
Good place for it also
if masi was still there, today would have been spa again
He got the championship ?
Bro Ricardo won’t be racing in 2023
Announced on social media now too
Yep
Kinda sad to see
Nice 🙂
yh one of the most civil places to celebrate
elsewhere it'd have been a disaster
Lmao
W
ye
Ya
Ocon too good at defending giga
And Max ftw 🙂
"he's defending like the race of his life" cit. russell
The Japanese will be partying tonight
Yea
Lmao why do I feel like Mercedes and Lewis are coming with a vengeance for 2021
russell was mad he wasn't on wets xD
Word would’ve made things worse for him
I feel sorry Charles
True
i'm laughing at this comments under sky sports italy
they're calling the race scripted just cuz leclerc lost by 110+ points
Man fought hard
i understand last year's frustration with a last lap HUGE mistake
but cmon ferrari lost in hungary, leclerc lost in france
I mean the penalty part prob has 99% of the anger behind that lol
Lmao
The final corner mistake by leclerc 😓
enjoying the rants
Bro but even in the game for a solid 2 weeks I could’ve worked for Ferrari lol
Ferrari have no one but themselves to blame for this
My strategy for each race was down right atrocious
this fax
I stopped playing for a month lol
Rain in 20 secs, gonna put on some hards
Same
how many points did lewis have before the race? 170?
Ya he had 170
I guess the fight now is between leclerc sainz and Ferrari
Gasly lost 2p in his license and handed out 20s time penalty due to the red flag incident
Tractor
He prob could’ve gone slower but again that tractor should not be there until all cars are in the pits
They blame him for that ?!?
Fia on its finest
Good race for all the Ocon haters. 
Mega Alonso too.
Yes
Oh ! Just finished watching the race … Max 2nd World Championship !!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
And Goatifi gets points and won’t finish with 0 pts this year 😅
Hi
Max Verstappen and Winning the WDC in the weirdest ways possible
Name a more iconic duo
Lol
And the FIA have no consequence for allowing a tractor to be on track whilst cars are going round 🤦🏼♂️
That was absurd imo. THEY let it out and then they blame him!? ?! ?!? !
He got a penalty for speeding after he passed gasly when it went red. He was probably too incensed to notice after going by the tractor under yellow
But that was so stupid lol
Given what happened in 2014(?) ?! He was even quite civilized on the radio
Yes I know, ridiculous. It should not of happened then either but somehow they let that slide.
It actually went red just as he reached the tractor but no time to react. Not that he should have had to.
Mercedes on the straights today
Now that Max has his 2nd championship, and that RB is closing in on the Constructors championship…. I feel tomorrow can’t come quick enough for the Cap budget results
I would pay to see Toto’s face when they announce that RB has not gone over 😏
“FIA manipulated it and did hide the fact they cheated.”
They've secured it already
Ain't no way Ferrari are rescuing 160 points in 4 races
Theoretically possible
realistically impossible
Yes, if anyone bets on that and gets it right he should be a millionaire. But still possible. To a degree 😂🤣
They can get 176? And they are 165 behind
Yeah, no way Rb doesn’t get 9 points in 4 races
Why does Pirelli make a wet tire if they don’t race in the wet?
Yes there was rain but I was sat right on the short straight at 130r and the rain was never that heavy. The reason for the hydroplaning was because everyone was on inters to start.
Clearly conditions weren’t so bad if they were able to go back to intermediates again almost immediately after the restart
The spray reducing visibility is an issue and the teams want to be on inters ASAP
Wet per reported this season is just very bad. It last way shorter than before, it does not give that better grip vs inter, overall a lot slower than before.
Budget cap results when
Do people know around when it will be released?
I really do not care who violated the cost gap.
I just want to know what is the penalty 😄
If they violated
https://www.independent.co.uk/f1/cost-cap-news-live-updates-red-bull-verstappen-b2199245.html?amp
'F1 news: Budget cap UPDATE
Still we wait for any news from the FIA - the latest is that we are expecting to hear from the governing body late this afternoon, as F1 teams and personnel make the journey back to Europe from Japan.'
Nothing new 🥱. These media’s milking headlines when there is not really anything new.
Well they say it's announced late this afternoon
We know that already xD.
It's already noon 😄
So 3-4 hours. Lewis 8xWDC 🤣
🤣
I do wonder what’s up with this bs speculation that people claim they will Anull Verstappen WDC. That’s so cringe. We all know it’s going to be a big fine for the team that broke it most likely. This wcc + wdc thing is just cringe.
Those dreams 😂🤣
Based on Fia's past, we can expect anything
From binotto's "slap on the wrist" to the biggest punishment ever
It’s funny binotto now is asking for big punishment
Ferrari must been punished really hard when they cheated in 2019.
I really hope someone violated the rules. I want
to see some punishment.
How ironic would it be if they release the statement middle of night….
Haha
Middle of the night for you guys is just after dinner for me 😏
FIA website is down … 🙄 But I think the news is out there… minor breach for both
and 
Opens for me
And … see anything interesting ?
Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team is considered to be in Procedural Breach of the Financial Regulations;
Oracle Red Bull Racing is considered to be in Procedural and Minor Overspend Breaches of the Financial Regulations; and
Williams Racing has complied with the Financial Regulations in respect of the 2021 Reporting Period with the exception of a previous Procedural Breach in regard to which the Cost Cap Administration entered into an ABA with Williams in May 2022. This Procedural Breach was then remediated by Williams in a timely, cooperative and transparent manner.
The FIA Cost Cap Administration is currently determining the appropriate course of action to be taken under the Financial Regulations with respect to Aston Martin and Red Bull and further information will be communicated in compliance with the Regulations.
When should we expect to know what the punishment will be for them ?
These can range from reprimands, points deductions from the Drivers’ or Constructors’ Championships, exclusion from Grands Prix, monetary fines, or a limitation put on wind tunnel aero testing.
-10 points for Gryffindor
I doubt there will be pts deductions for driver…
I know it’s what every Lewis Hamilton fanboys are hoping for but it won’t happen
Those are for major breaches
Minor ones are above
Probably monetary and wins tunnel time
So, break cost cap. Develop fast af car. Win the championship. Use part of the winnings to pay the fine and still have a fast af car and hope that the year after you don't need too much wind tunnel time to keep your fast af car. 😅
What an disappointed. Thought this was going to be big 🥱
Less than 5% but would be nice to how much exactly.
FIA website didn’t say anything about the amount
F1 neither
And Rb ofc denied it 🤣
I don’t think it’s fully calculated yet
How much is really “minor” after all this sport is ridiculousy expensive
Thanks I'll have look for that.
Williams will pay around 25k fine.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was Silverstone and Hungary that pushed them over 😂
According to reports it’s not about the car. It’s about other things.
Such as logistics, planning, staff,
Etc
Gray areas ?
Aston going over is probably a those staff they hired
So its a question of what should be included or not.
Was there earlier a discussion whether development of parts they didnt end up putting on the car should be included or not?
Aston spending so much yet so bad
I believe the Aston one is just a procedural
Like for Williams
Doesn’t say anything about going over budget cap
I read somewhere about 500,000 in development being equal to a tenth or two of time, not sure how accurate though.
Is funny that so many were like "oh it's just Toto and Binotto making rubbish up" and RB have actually broken it
RB "misinterpreted" what was included and what wasn't. 🤔 9 out of 10 teams interpreted it correctly lol
That idk?
Been hours already where is the punishment and details?!?!
Just read actually its 1mill is equal to 1 or 2 tenths, 5 mill is equal to a second
If they're over by 5mill surely they have to dock points?
If it was a development one
If it’s something else as Svally said ?
Let’s wait for the final one
We won't ever find out what it was for though will we. Just like Ferrari in 19?
And yes, Toto and Ferrari were banging the barrell it was a major breach and they should be banned
Sources were wrong 🤣
All I heard them say was "IF it's a major breach." Didn't actually say it was. And I don't think anyone would argue against that
Any team that majorly breached it should be.
Absolutely
Why is F1 Twitter banging on about it being in "catering and hospitality?" 😂 that can't be included surely? 😂
😂 that's just ridiculous 🤦🏼♂️😂. Trouble for RB now is, either Horner downright lied to everyone or he doesn't know what's going on in his team. Or 3rd option, his team don't understand the rules well enough 😂
5000 donation to Merc from Horner too 😝😘
4th option - they interpreted differently
Rb still deny going over the cap
True, the FIA aren't exactly well known for clear cut rules are they 🤦🏼♂️
They'd struggle to just admit it now after all the comments denying it and claiming defamation
Formula one in a nutshell, find a grey area you think you can exploit till they close it off, happens with the technical regs as well
My question is how do the likes of Mercedes & Ferrari knows this?
Wasn’t just them, ‘an open secret up and down the pitlane’ I think was the term used
Yeah, rumor spreading 🤣 we have a saying “if someone says your sister is a w*ore good luck proving you don’t even have a sister” 🤣
Probably because of the way RB every other race week after Silverstone have been bringing in quite hefty upgrades
Like 4 times
But the breach is about 2021 budget…
And 2022, Williams got fined
Ah yeah
Could be Max 36 v Ferrari 31 by end of 2022 😂
It’s not even fair as he started in 2015 😂
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Damn someguy just was driving speed of light 🤨
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Who is better? Lewis Hamilton or Max Verstappen
Yes
Depends on who you ask. British people or the rest of the world
What period are we talking about ?
Unfair! Not all brits are Karenton fans…Lando is the best 🤣
Lewis already passed the Karen baton to KR. The pupil surpassed the master
Maybe it’s in the Mercedes Radio etiquette training manual
I don’t know but this new KR is disgusting 🤣
Lewis clearly no one will come close to what he has achieved not even little cheating rat max hamilton is the greatest driver ever and those who disagree clearly aint real f1 fans just the nee breed that come round with little max
Michael and Senna would like to get a word with sir cry a lot
Looking forward to Palou and O'ward getting their FP outings.
Should be fun
Do they have enough F1 Super Licence points ? Or is it gonna be as pointless as the whole Herta situation ?
What is special about series 5 Downton
Wrong channel for your question. Should ask here https://discord.com/channels/649307821388595211/841291765386182707
Palou has enough after winning the title in 2021 but I don't believe O'ward has enough, stuck on 34 and needs another 6.
Thanks for the info 😉
Personally, I think this is one of the worst games I've ever played. What's the use of having a good car and a good driver if you're still going to lose?
and also when pairing with other competitors there is always a big difference between me and the other user, more or less than 100 points in the driver and in the car
Wrong channel
Well, I think there is some rereference to Ferrari this season🙃
FIA is taking forever to announce punishment 😭
I doubt it will be soon
Verstappen is just like Vettel. Golden car making it happen.
As if ham was not like that 🤷🏻♂️
Oh yea sorry I forgot that Mercedes wasn’t lightyears ahead with a PU they developed even before the TD changed 😜 and last years golden car came in second last year if my memory recalls it correctly
Toto after “misinterpreting” the budget next season😂😂😂
Yikes ! One race and both George and Lewis will be totally roasted
Lewis wouldn’t mind if it meant getting his 8th😂
I thought he got it already after max got disqualified. Oh wait
Alternative reality
Well if the FIA listen to all the PRO Hamilton Super Fans, then Red Bull will also loose their 2010 to 2013 championships and all 4 would go to Hamilton … so he’s soon to have 12 Championships… no ? 🤪
Biased comment
Ham fans are not biased at all. Many of them are so completely objective that they will admit when their favorite has done a mistake or is not the guy who they believed he is.
Agreed
No fans are biased at all. It's great to see the love and respect for Lewis from Max fans, just like the love and respect Max fans get from Lewis.
I was at Zandvoort and only a handful of Max fans where booing Hamilton. Might’ve been because most fans went home already before Hamilton finally crossed the finish line after the podium ceremony was over
Wrong place
İstanbul Gp >>>>>>all
Ooo nice.
Lol 😂
So does that leave enough time to Hutch to change the track before May 2023 season rolls out ?
Christian Horner moment
Meanwhile Toto “they are doing faster pit times - please slow them down for “safety issues”. “They are faster than us, please raise ride height due to safety concerns” ….
Ride height hit back like a train for Mercedes tho 😐
Porpoising 💀
And redbull, allegedly, is using a new type of suspension based on non-Newtonian fluid
Which is simply genius
Was so funny. Karen and Toto put on quite a whine fest before saying how Rb cheated and how they will be slower. Yeah, totally went that way 🤣
First I read reversed, as in they'd race it in the opposite direction. That would mix things up 😂
Some tracks would probably be better in reverse layout 😂
Are they changing engineers ?
Nah zero chance, at least not for Verstappen. Max has said numerous times that he doesn’t want anyone other than Gianpiero as his engineer
I think he means constructors title (this year)
Or it could be about engineer in the f1 manager game?
Please clarify. We are eager to know what you mean!
I mean next year's red bull engine strong?
If I’m not mistaken there is an engine freeze now?
Yea frozen until 2026. Only improvements they are allowed to do are reliability updates. So in terms of engine it’s in my opinion
- Ferrari
- RBP
- Mercedes/Alpine
Ferrari is bringing a new engine to COTA with a reliability update, FIA has approved it. Although reliability comes with performance so it doesn’t mean the engines can’t improve until 2026
I thought you guys fixed the disconnect issue. Yes I couldn't qualify for my GP to make disconnects. Today got three disconnects in a row did I guess I'm not qualifying for today either.
Wrong place for this. Are you sure you aren’t swiping ?
Your right, my mistake wrong place. 👍
Good morning
The punishment must be big. No way this is an light punishment and takes this long?
Wind time and team point deductions ?
My guess as well, no way I see the FIA take Max’s Championship away
Extremely unlikely
Toto and Ham ofc with their political games 😂
“If it’s a fine we’ll pay it every year and go over the cap”
“If it’s a slap on the wrist we might as well not have a cap”
Yeah 😉
And an ex-Merc legal adviser on the board that decides 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly !
Ah ! And that’s why I hate politics… and probably why my boss suggested I take the « Developp your political acumen and power of influence » training 😅
Lol Ferrari had 300 extra horse power to the engine and they get fined behind doors
Don’t expect something big
Not going to be something big. My guess would be that Red Bull was going to do a press conference about how dirty and rotten the FIA is with the ex Toto Wolff assistant that leaks everything and that the FIA said please no leave that stone unturned, we want to fix it behind closed doors meh meh meh
Any team principal/driver in the same situation would have said the same thing.
I think we all agree if there's not a severe penalty it's pointless having the cap
Don’t agree
Ferrari got fined for the fuel sensor, did it happen again?
Not that we're aware of lol. At that point though no one came out and said if it was a fine we'll break it as well.
Also we don't know the exact terms of what was agreed and punishment because it was all behind closed doors
Do you think a fine is sufficient then?
Same will happen with red bull
If it’s a minor breach, then it will be like fia stated. Perhaps a constructor point reduction
Then every team will overspend up to 7mill and just pay the fine each season. What's the point in it?
A "minor breach" that is still a season's worth of development
Ah well, we don’t know the details as red bull thinks they don’t overspend it and fia think they did. So we speculate, we only know the details of it when it doesn’t will be decided behind close doors
Constructors point reduction is pointless. They didn't win the title so it doesn't matter. It has to be more than just that
Yup, nothing else going on this season anymore so let's all speculate 😂
How do you know , or where did you get the info, that it is 7M$ ?
It could’ve also be 50K$ and still be a minor breach…. Why people all assume that RB went to the very limit of the minor breach ?
Maybe they are just better than Merc and Ferrari… 🤔
It’s up to 7m. Most are saying closer to 2m
I don't, just commenting on what I've seen/heard. It could be 50k, it could be 7mill. Regardless of how much it is, the rule still needs to be enforced
Same as speeding in the traffic? Driving to fast is to fast, hand over your license
No more fines
Just straight away lose your driving license
Not really, one increases the danger to people, one doesn't. Those two situations aren't comparable
O is it? I see everybody talking about a faster car from red bull
Isn’t that more dangerous then?
Not when you're talking about racing with the highly skilled drivers they have
You clearly biased, same like me. You want to see them heavily punished because you are a Mercedes fan, and I think you guys are overreacting because nothing has been publicly shared yet.
😂 definitely not a merc fan. Let me put my point across like this.
I don't want to see Max lose the title this way and I'm 99% sure Lewis wouldn't want to win it this way either.
My issue is F1 is seen as a farce from majority of people based on decisions lately. If this isn't dealt with properly it continues to make a mockery of the sport. The FIA needs to claw back some form of competency and the only way to do that is with appropriate punishment.
Constructors points are pointless for last year, this year potentially not. Wind tunnel time is a good shout and reduced spending for a future season is also a good shout.
Yeah well they mess up a lot of things lately
Exactly my point. To get any faith restored they have to deal with this properly.
One moment they take hours to discuss a penalty, other races it take seconds
Then the wet tyres drama
First year of having a cost cap, team at the top overspend and nothing happens.
Future years no point in having a cost cap
Also inconsistencies from the stewards
We can go back to when Charlie passed that everything started to go wrong 😢
I agree
But then, also some leaks at fia
Which is also embarrassing , who shared the that report with Toto or Ferrari?
They need to clean up that place
100% agree. They need to sort themselves out and the best way of doing that is making a statement of intent with this. If its a soft punishment you'll get "FIA fix with RB" everywhere, teams will ignore the rules more and they'll lose all credibility they've got left (which isn't much tbh)
Well they created a precedent with Ferrari and the fuel sensor
And still, could be that fia and red bull look different at spendings
Which, can only be seen as unclarity in the rules
So the fia stated things probably that you can see differently from stand points
As how I see it ofcourse 😆
The FIA are well-known for unclear rules so it wouldn't be a surprise 😂.
Like I said above, do I want to see retrospective punishment, not really. But setting an example going forward is important.
It’s actually the FIA that’s making themself look like they’re one big joke. No structure, no clear written rules, no clear punishment but a wide spectrum that when you’re 5% over the BC you can get a reprimand, a fine, less budget for next season or point deduction in championships. If Red Bull gets either a reprimand or a fine everyone will whine that the punishment is not high enough and they will do the same next season. If the FIA does decide to do point deduction they make a joke out of themselves by having sorted things in the past behind closed doors. Illegal Ferrari, Mercedes doing an illegal tyre test etc etc. And not to forget the leak that’s inside the FIA spilling all the information to Toto

A car off
Who’s running in that Ferrari ? SHW ?
Robert Schwartzman (unsure about spelling)
Thanks !
Logan Seargant will drive for Williams if he gets enough super licence points according to multiple sources within Media mhm.
He should get it … no ? I mean I’m sure I read somewhere that he was going to get enough if he finished top 5 in F2 standings. I think he finished 3rd … so he should be ok 👌
Depressing, hopefully he won't make. I'll be cheering vesti doohan and daruvala for the final round
Even Lawson 🤣
Why don’t you want Seargant to make it
So I just watched FP3. I don’t think I saw one lap that would get a quali time. Everyone exceeded track limits everywhere.
Quali time :£
Sergeant making it would mean mick is out
Is it confirmed he wont continue with haas?
Sargeant’s replacing Latifi
That was a nice Qualifying session in COTA !!!
Happy to see an Aston Martin right behind the big 3 teams … and will even start higher with the penalties 🥳
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Unless he does something to get penalty points in the last race of the season he will get the needed amount
Missed quali as I fell asleep. Woke up and all I'm seeing is comparisons Zhou and Max going over white line, Zhou was deleted and Max wasn't? What went on?
Haven’t watched either
Rumors say wind tunnel will be the penalty for Rb
25% reduction, Which could potentially hurt them quite a bit
So they will be at 45% if they win the championship while Ferrari and Merc will be at almost double that
From what I understand Max wasn't punished because it was after session and he would have been able to set another time if spotted sooner. What happened to the precedent they set in Austria with Checo lol?
For me this is reasonable. Severe enough to make others think twice yet not affecting anything gone before
I say they should have no wind tunnel and instead have to use an office fan and bucket with the bottom cut out 😂
Would love to see Toto’s face and reaction when they still have better aerodynamics than everyone else on the grid. ‘No no this is so not right! Only use the air that comes out their lungs when they blow!’
I would like to see a more outstanding driver get the seat. Not one of the exciting options from f2 imo.
Apprently rb is not accepting that penalty 😂
I figured maybe you just didn’t want an American in F1
I would like Herta but he has to calm down a bit. Hopefully, another season and he'll get himself together. Newgarden could enter immediately but doesn't want to apparently, that's a shame, he'd suit modern F1 very well.
Looks like seargent has the seat. They are saying it won’t be a problem to get his need license points
Then they'll get a harsher one 😂
Yea I know
For Herta, it was all about him NOT having enough points for the Super Licence, otherwise I think he’d have a seat for 2023
Problem for the Indy drivers are that there are little super license points given. And most Indy drivers don’t want to race two seasons in Formula 2 to get enough points for a super license. I don’t think I would either if I was an American in Indy car
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It’s a bit stupid though. Some of these guys, I believe Herta in particular did quite well
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My prediction is Max will get ahead at the start and another boring race for us. This season offered much at the start and fizzled out and became dull pretty quick
I think Sainz has a pretty decent chance. They had nice lap times doing long runs. Not the tyre deg they had in other races
but you know... they are ferrari a-z plan potatoes 😅
Stupid question but didn’t watch 😂
Where does Checo start from ?
I saw the Mercs are on the second row ?
P9
Haha, nothing bored to see
It’s lovely
Can remember Schumacher winning everything, same as Lewis
Now it’s max Verstappen his turn
And as a fan, I love it
you are not a fan but fanboy.... if you were a fan of f1 you wanted to see battle till last race 😛
More battle needed
schumi was the reason i stopped watching f1 back then because it was boring af and i think it also started all those regulations a karens complaining left and right
i will never forget those 6 wheel formulas ages ago where everyone was allowed to do whatever 😅
I’m here since 1998 mate
And yeah, hopefully we will see a 2021 season very soon. But me as a Dutchie I don’t mind if Verstappen gets some more championships wins
Season could be better if Ferrari didn’t mess things up so bad this season
lets gooo!
What a magnificent start from Vettel 🤩
Karen took out Sainz
Sainz race is over… what a shame
For gods sake George, way to ruin the race 🙄
Straight bulldozer
If this isn’t a stop and go I don’t know
He should go back to Williams. Was much more likeable and driving better then
Aston Martin looking good as they would love to overtake Alfa Romeo in constructors
Love the special helmet of Stroll this week
I think it was good that Sainz got taken out. It saves him from the embarrasment that will 95% come during the race you know 😉
jk
Verstappen too fast bruh. But tons of stuff happening at the back
Why does kmag get called in for damage but not checo?
Perez playing bumper cars
3x already this season. FIA just don't like Danish people
Inconsistencies again. This is why the FIA are not respected
well its divided into 2 directors so
imo it should be the same team with the director half season per director
Didn't they stop that after Japan? I thought they went back to 1 and got rid of the 1 who did Japan
Man idk. I am living under a rock now when it comes to F1. I only watch the race now.
Yeah tbh I don't pay much attention other than race day
Just read that they'd ditched the rotation after Japan
I don't think its the director that is the "biggest problem".
The problem is them switching out people every gp.
Well the plate was pretty fast gone from checo his car
Didn’t happen at Kevin his car
I do understand that people can't fly everywhere and be present. Its physically demanding tho.
Wasn't gone quick enough that they didn't have time to call him in. With kmag it was done quickly.
I don't really care what rules they have, I just wish they were consistent with applying them
You have to look it up, I can recall Kevin got called it but didn’t happen right away
Checo got lucky it removed itself
Can’t blame the fia for that
You can't but you can blame them for applying a rule one way and then not applying it somewhen else. Like the Charles and Checo penalties. Just be consistent, that's all we want
Perhaps if checo did one lap with that enplate lose he would been called in. I don’t recall Kevin got his meatball the first lap after the plate was lose
It didn't come off on the first lap. He definitely did at least 1 lap with it lose as it happened on the 1st lap
It took forever for Kevin to be "pitted" in Canada
Its consistent trash xD
now I see
Singapore wasn't as long though
Inconsistent with the same driver
And inconsistent with other drivers
Ferrari messed up pit stop so Charles ends up behind Checo
Haha, you do enjoy watching F1 or?
Nope, I'm bored that's why I talk on here
Normally I'm playing F1 manager at the same time 😂
Karen ❤️
Lol, and sky biased as usual
They've criticised George and blamed him, how is that biased?
Yeah very gentle.. Not like if other driver done it
Sky imo is very gentle with people from UK but very negative towards others.
Red flag surely?
OH MY GOD
Woooo, what was that
Who crashed
Well they were a max fan before his red bull success era
Alonso, Stroll and some others
But after he could fight Hamilton it shifted
I hate Sky in general their journalist and reporters are so misleading and negative.
Same when it comes to Sky Football and other categories
I loved it in general, more in depth then we had in the Netherlands.
What was Stroll doing?! Jinking left like that is ridiculous
Yet another clip to add to his long fails video
It’s so stupid, they need points there and he’s defending like that
Looks like a F1 2022 online game move
Is Alonso car still good to race after that airborne?
could have been real bad if alonso hit the gap in barriers there while half flying
I hope Brad Pitt is taking good notes how the F1 movie will be
Brad Pitt as Helmut Markko
Not a Lewis fan by any means, but I hope he pulls out a win today
Sounds like a Lewis fan ser
Nah, I cheer for Red Bull and Haas. Never liked lewis or Mercedes; just feels weird to potentially go an entire season without him winning a race
Well done, Charles
They need a down to earth season
Feel (slightly) bad for Ham, but Karen definitely needs a lesson in being humble and should go back to the guy we had previous seasons
Can we please call Max "Karen Verstappen" for this race? How many messages about the wind? 😂
I heard one and before that the car was “shIte”. But full disclosure- I started watching lap 26 🤣
He's had at least 4 about the wind, 2 about drivability and something about someone else
There is only one true Karen on the grid and that's Russell 😅
Ouch
RB messing up a pit stop! What?!
Gun issue ?
How long do the mediums last? Will they go 20laps?
It’s all gone to hell for max
If so why didn't Merc go for them?
This is going to be fun
Hards probably worked better for them. Both RB's started to struggle on those tyres but Merc kept speed
Both Mercs on Hards is interesting choice
Charles and Max going to be so much quicker than Max
Maybe merc are going for the long game and have an advantage towards the end?
Makes it more fun
Certainly made the race more interesting
OH BOY I MISSED THIS BATTLE BETWEEN MAX AND LECLERC🥹
Any bets how long till max catches Ham?
It's what we all hoped this season would be, based on how it started. Hopefully next year it's a three dog race for the world title
About 5 laps probably
6-7 laps I bet
I say 9 lap
