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No noone always defends dirty, and depends if you wanna differ thise 2 words. But easier if we just say that they mean the same now i suppose
FRench GP 🥱
Sainz expected to be taking a whole new engine pretty much
Yeah he’s getting a grid penalty
mercedes getting 318 max speed redbull casually 334
Ducktape ftw 🤣
Oh
Adrian newey was also there, so must be trying some high tech ducktape thing 🤣
De vries isn’t driving now though
Correct answer.
Pretty sure it’s Hamilton’s car too not De Vries
After last race nothing can puzzle me
Checo first in a Ferrari, Sainz second in a RB and max third in a Merc 😂
They did that mistake in interview too.
Max had an interview and it said under “Mercedes F1 driver” 🤣 with Lewis name too I think.
Wie wil f1 potje
It's not surprising the fans don't know. The inconsistency, the poor coverage, they only follow what is presented to them.
True
To understand F1 you really need to do your research about the sport, obviously if you just watch it on race day you won’t really learn much but just how much drivers curse on the radio lol
I think the broadcasting and commentators can do a lot more In this section. They can educate in Free practice only talk like how the sport is etc, then in quali they talk about the format and how it works, and race nothing special the usual.
I think what they miss most is the passion that used to surround the sport. Murray Walker had an infectious passion for motorsport which helped viewers develope their interest, David Croft celebrity spotting is nothing but a distraction.
Crofty is good, the commentators are good. But their agenda and how the broadcast should change focus. Their theme etc.
They did little bit of that in free practice, I felt like I was learning something but already knew so. But can helpful for Newcomers
Perhaps more behind the scenes stuff. Like I have to go to twitter to find out what upgrades teams are brining. Often commentators don’t even talk about it much. “Specifically”
He is better than DC but that's all. Chandhok and button are more my cup of tea. Croft might be better if there was the was the same attention to his mistakes as Murrays, you can learn from mistakes too but they don't even acknowledge his mistakes most of the time.
Commentators in Bulgaria for example do that and make free practice sessions quite fun. Upgrades, some history here and there, fun facts, sometimes even gossip 😂 But for the actual races I much rather prefer watching English commentators
Norwegian commentators do this but I changed to F1 TV Pro only because I prefer English.
and english imo is alot more dramatic.
Yeah same
Cost for me like €60-70
Meanwhile in a parallel universe...
Red Bull is looking very good..
F1 my team career modes be like
qualiiii
Thanks ! Almost forgot the time
That RB on the straight is absolutely mental
Ferrari is fast too
Haven't seen the speed of them. Was it close to 340?
idk
mercs upgrades not really working 😂
on the long straights Red Bull has no competition honestly
Gasly 🤦♂️
Mag has a grid penalty indeed
Shame for Mick, he'd been on a good run. Mag did a good job.
Vettel did really well (11th)
Guys I’m in turkey and they won’t let me watch f1 on the website I watch it on so give me some commentary on what’s happened
Carlos omg
Stunning lap by Carlos
almost a full second faster than max
Absolutely crazy
McLaren top 10, Mercedes’ lacks paced
Daniel out of q1 after a while let’s see q2
McLaren is looking way better than Merc
Lando is let’s see Daniel tho
Lando is flying
Mercedes I surprisingly slow? Or has the other teams become way faster?
Bro I swear Mercedes have brought like 20 so called upgrades this season
Merc said that they will 100 tenths off Red Bull with these new upgrades
They have brought a lot of upgrades past Grand Prix and now they are slower lol.
they are wayyyyyy offf
Ferrari🤝mclaren
Not supporting Mercedes
😂
he was close
Daniel is def gonna be benched
He don’t have that time. He must perform now.
Carlos get 10% buff from Hutch 😂
Sacrificing a new engine for giving a tow ? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Who?
sainz
Sainz to give tow to Lec
Mhm
Why? It will backfire
Sainz q2 31.1
Max 31.2 tho
0.008 difference 🤷🏻♂️ was it even worth it ?
nope
Another genius decision
Loool
they will give it another try lol
They won this but I still think it was not worth it, he would have had it without it also
Very smart decision ngl
i think it was worth it
Smart ?
he wouldn’t of been 0.300 up without he tow
Using Carlos for his slipstream
Ferrari needs as much reliability as possible given their previous races
Still could be 0.1 faster without tow
It’s not worth it to risk another engine to win instead of .008 to win by .3
I think
Honestly in my opinion sainz was the fastest man this qualifying
I've got a dreadful feeling that Charles engine will go and it'll be an easy RB 1-2
And this is a brand new engine that they would be better off using in the other races instead or this
He was but he has a new engine also
I don't think its worth it because RB regardless are much faster anyway. They will prob OT leclerc during the race. Leclerc don't have sainz to help him on start either so?
Definitely not worth it just for pole
Exactly
Much faster ?
Yeh but he was faster than max in the corners by .5 tenths
Rb can ot on that straights. thats where they are good.
Ferrari lacks little bit of that speed.
If the Ferrari was rock solid - sure, go ahead
RB are almost 10k quicker on the straight, add in DRS and they'll breeze past the Ferrari
But their engines are dying like flies
& Red Bull lack speed out of the corners
It’s 5
335 vs 329/330
this is what I am saying. Therfore I don't think it was worth it just to be overtaken later on the race anyway.
RBs highest was 339
it will be a close race
Still - imo it was stupid and not worth it
I mean Charles wasn’t the one who was fast in the corners it was Carlos
Lando fight Merc could be fun
They did 339 in Q1 so yeah crazy quick
Charles corner pace was just a bit ahead of rb in cornering
We have to see both Red Bull & Ferraris Race pace
Strategy is the only thing that will make tomorrow interesting. Ferrari might have played it right with having 2 sets of new mediums available
might be different
is it 2stop or 1 stop tomorrow?
Last races Rb usually runs race spec instead of top quali spec
Maybe 3 like Bahrain
it will be warmer tomorrow also
Could be like last year where one does one stop and the other team does 2
Yeah
slaut
👍
Bah
Salve salve
Paul Ricard is NOT on the 2023 calendar.
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Omg that’s brilliant
Anyone on this chat from Hampshire in England?
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Yes
So what’s your guy’s Podium looking like today ?
Ver Per Ham
Hopefully the 300 race curse keeps going 😉
& you think Ferrari will break more hearts today ?😂
We will see 😉
What's the curse?
Watching in a pub with mates today so might be bit quieter
Crowd Is dang
Oops that was last year!!! 😆😆
I think @heady sonnet means about drivers who never got a pole or a podium once they reached 300 races
Having 300 races is never a good luck according to history

where to watch ?
K Mag? K Machine more like
Predictions on final position for SAI?
Out
engine gonna blow on lap 44
Nearly 32c there today.
Someones going to struggle 🤭
Canal+
any link ?
RB easily got pace on the straights
illegal
Charles is holding on for dear life 😂
Definitely a 2 stop
Kmag just pit
It’s way to hot out there
K.mag pitted already`? Ain't that bit early?
Very early
Haaas said planned stop too
💤
Let’s see how many plans Ferrari run with 😂. On plan b now
Leclerc sound just as tired as me. French GP 💤
I’m still guessing maybe it’s how many laps past original planned stop to extend too
Yea sat behind in hot air too long
Teams will be going for 1 stop
Commentators are bored too.
Penny candy chat...
Most boring start to a race this season maybe
Someone mentioned this track is out next year?
Yeah it is most likely
Poor Gp.
#Safety car
Max is in
Not yet official
It doesn't seem to fit the numbers anymore.
70k full crowd seems small somehow.
I am safe from saying Paul ricard gonna be ruled out
Oooooooo
Big L
Merry Xmas Mercedes 😅
Well max you don’t need to push now
OMGGGGGGG
🧐🧐🧐
Whaaat Max stayed first. Thought he'd be 4th or sth
5s 🤢
hahahahah what the heck is a 18km/h slower mercedes gonna do vs some angry Bulls
Unsafe release penalties coming?
Ferrari messing up trying to do a 1 stop. Their strategy is terrible
Seems so
-hire me asap
S🅱️inalla for leclerc 💀
I guarantee better job 😄
leclerc heavy breathing noises intensify
jesus
He was struggling with the rear long time.
I (inaudible) stuck throttle
no idea why they didnt bring him in
watch that bull swoop away from that arrow 😉
They were going for a 1 stop I think
their tires
it was the pedal
not the tires
Not really, imo he was struggling for many laps
This is really ridiculous...Ferrari/Leclerc are gifting Max another championship
Ferrari knew about this and they did nothing?
sainz still has a chance
Verstappen gained 1s in that straight alone LOOOL
16 more of those and Haas gonna win
Just said leclerc did the fastest lap
Penalty for sainz incoming for sure
Watch sainz on mediums and how long he goes on them
Max will go down as the luckiest driver in history for the way he's been gifted championships
well gg
Don't get me wrong I actually like Max but I wanna see a good fight for the chip
P1 are for LEC on Saturdays and for MAX on Sundays
Sainz putting in some work
A Mercedes higher than 3rd?
Nah sainz will come
Sainz probably finished 3rd then red bull 1-2
Yeah sainz or checo
Idk whats more luck, RB getting gifted alot or Mercedes getting gifted tons of podiums 😄
by gifted I meant Ferrari messing up 24/7
Could be an 8th Merc podium and 4 in a row for Lewis
What is zhou doing?
So far I’m close
Sainz unsafe release penalty
Sainz falling away from the mercs and checo
Ferrari never clean...
Sainz being needed by the fia😂😂
Zhou under investigation
But when ocon did it in imola i don’t remember him getting a penalty
"5 second stop and go" according to Ferrari
That took longer to call then track limit penalties in Austria
I think it’s more Merc luck there. Ferrari are pushing it quite a bit to mess their own season up
Can't even get penalties right never mind strategy
It’s not stop and go
Ferrari are hapless
Ferrari drivers are still the best on the grid because unlike everyone else they don't have strategists to help
I think by the end of the season Leclerc will kill someone🤣
That someone might just be his championship hopes this season
ALO never stops scheming 😆
as a Ferrari fan I don’t think you blame the team for this honestly
Charles pushed to hard
& lost control
Sadly with the way teams are he can't even threaten to leave like players in other sports which inadvertently whips teams up into shape so to not lose their best players
I don’t think that was a driver error, I heard throttle issues again
Let's wait to hear the full story because he was complaining about the throttle
Pedal issue as last gp
we’ll have to see tho we still don’t know
if it is then yeah but at the moment we don’t know
True but if it’s throttle yet again it’s not looking good
Merc undercut in the books?
maybe that’s what Charles thought at the moment
If it's the throttle issue again they had 2 weeks to work on it
Yup
They also mentioned throttle after he was stopped when he was trying to backup.
It was impossible for him to back up because the wing was stuck
just what had happened to checo in Canada
Sainz drilling through the field currently
Didn't checo have a reliability issue in Canada?
In qualifying he crashed out
Oh
Must've missed it but why is Yuki out?
Blister on sainz just like with lec
another safety car will really make this interesting
That looked rough
Yea it did especially as commentators were debating whether he could stay out till end
Russell told he will start reeling sainz back in with tyre drop off
Bro that tyre looks very bad
Stroll: yes yes leave me alone 🤣
Goatifi spin 💀
will people pit again?=
Possibly
Perez will I think
I'd be surprised if they didn't but seems like it's too late now
Kmag out
Surely sainz has too
Driver of the day sainz
This reminds me of Hockenheim 2018 💔
Ferrari saying stay out till end
Sainz wants in for new tyres. He also has penalty to serve
Can I pit? Yes stay out.
ferrari!?!?1
Box .
Not now!
😂😂😂😂
Ferrari, "box box"
I'm overtaking someone you muppets!
omg I am losing my brain......
They told him to box in middle of that battle
ABSOLUTE CLASS!!
Omg
Ferrari are like telling a footballer who's one on to stop and be subbed off
wow russell
SAI making his own calls.
Per norm.
Pit in a middle of a battle
Ooooo Russell!
Dirty Russell
Mercedes 🎳
Ermm Russell, bit late there tbf
Bro this Ferrari team are stupid
And Merc again with the torpedo tactics
Russel thought he was doing something 😭
Yea that wasn’t the time to do that. To much speed too
With these stewards you might get lucky 😂
Perez done nothing wrong there. Did well to avoid crashing
Russell’s fault
He was not infront. Thats perez position 😄
Russell is a torpedo
Penalty for checo for leaving and gaining advantage?
Leaving ?
Merc telling Russell he's wrong. Good to see tbf.
He was pushed out lol
loool Russell needs to relax
Sainz having an electric weekend
I don’t like what is George turning into
Russell is a Karen omg 😭
Ferrari are just disappointing
they even had Toto on radio
damn toto giving some speech
Ferrari master plan 💀
I thought he continued also
Lmao Toto to Russell
the coverage around Paul ricard sucks......
Oh dw it's just latifi being latifi
ferarri is so dumb
No way these hards will hold?
Leclerc admitted mistake
So it took half a season to turn George into Karen
He always blames himself, but we know Ferrari is a joke
Fair play to Charles
Yes, the drivers change. Mistakes stay the same
This background LEC interview is annoying for some reason
Sainz gotta be driver of the day
What he meant was "this was an issue we had 2 weeks ago but no one bothered to fix it"
His words
They are always disappointing. What’s new from them
he is literally admitting to the mistake & it’s still Ferraris fault ? 😭
some people are so ignorant lol
Would you say Ferrari is the pinnacle of reliability & competence?
RB ready to pit
none
It’ll end too quick
In terms of their history in the past like 15 yrs @uncut scarab comment is not far off
I think Ferrari have improved a lot in some ways but it's early days. You can't just blame drivers for all the mistakes, the list is too long.
this gp 💤 , I am only impressed by Sainz
Perez 😂😂😂
What was Perez doing 🤦♂️
George!
Taking a nap
Rip Perez 💀
Perez isn't even a tyre whisperer anymore this season
😱
Perez lost his mind or what 😭
No reaction from toto
Very soft podium lost if he doesn't get this
rate this GP out of 5
0
Skysports right now 🍆
This race was meh

Merc finished higher than 3rd for the first time this season

Mercedes can stop b1tching about having a bad car now 🤣
Stroll being a dirty b*tch🙂
Toto still says they're lacking pace tho 😂
Oh, Karen, you learn fast 😂
that mercedes is very decent. Lacks little straight line speed.
P1!!
It's hard to be a bottas fan
🧐
It's hard to be a Ferrari strategy fan
Sainz put in a class drive
I want to know how you get a job on their team, I think I could do alright
@opaque crest
Did y'all fall asleep there? 😆
Still slow, just reliable
I luckily woke up 14.00 😄
Wait, there is a Ferrari strategy team?
Yeah SAI from the hotseat
imagine if russel gets out of podium for limit
I'm out watching today, much quieter lol. Channeling Checo after the VSC restart
I believe he is doing a better job than them 🤣
Oof.
Jolyon gonna have a field day with that one.
Replay their radios, both moaning so much about each other lol
I saw Bottas going from 11th to 15th i almost punched my TV
GG
Sainz running the whole ferrari team by himself
Hungary next week then summer break
@opaque crest FAX
I liked the comment about not needing that pit and “we would have built a gap there” 😂
Bye 👋
loool. that cooldown room looks so awkward.
63 points 💀
"Throttle blockage" 👀
If you were Perez you'd have woken up at 15:00
Merc closing in, just 44 points
🤣
Very well done max
Toto?
I'm neutral to both Horner and Toto but at least Toto is constantly unintentionally funny 😆
Love to see it
Where Mercs that good or Perez was not really racing today?
Perez was having an off weekend
A couple of DNFs and Mercs still have a chance.
The good is that at least MV is very consistent and grab all points he can, the other 3 (CL, CS and SP) are very unreliable.
Definitely MV and LH are still the best drivers in this Season.
I watched Perez vs Karen again - what did KR mean that Perez didn’t leave him enough place ? He pushed Checo off not the other way around lol
Removing SPA would be a huge stupidity from F1 as Hutch did by removing Race Crates.
There were plans to alternate the two every year ?
Pr report is not part of the 2023 calendar due to the organisers does not want to make the track more safe.
Two races in a row GR has clashed with Checo what's going on?
His move today reminded me of Max last year. Divebomb the inside and make the other driver get out the way
So was it fine today?
He seems to be a lot different compared to the generally humble and composed Russel we had before. And I don’t think that’s a good thing at all. First hints were even last year with the crash with Bottas. And now this.
I just watched an interview he did, he quoted the front wheels in front of rear wheels nonsense. He might just be pushing the issue because the stewards can give you a few places a season through their stupidity but yes he needs to race better wheel to wheel.
No way was GR going to get the stewards to side with his reasoning. He divebombed like he was going to take out Checo
No it wasn't fine. I agree, I liked him before but I'm going off him now. I feel like he's going away from the George that got him to where he is
It's almost like he feels entitled now that he's in a merc which is never going to be a good thing
Tbh I'm surprised the stewards didn't investigate it and find him to blame. He didn't leave Checo anywhere to go other than off the track

When you look at Zhou getting a penalty this week, Albon not getting one the other week for exactly the same you never know.
But at the same time none of them got damage and Checo kept the position. Bit like when Max defended too roughly against Lewis in Brazil last year. Noone got damage and Lewis overtook him shortly after anyways. So I say let it be in cases like that.
Bet RUS will realise later he is wrong tho, like he did after he crashed Bottas and gave him the finger after 😆
The finger and tap on the helmet
Same, probably he started to feel the pressure being Ham teammate as Ham are much faster in few recent races
I wonder how would have Karen Horner influenced him if he was in RB
Max max max super max max
Man, I was trying to play F1 2022 in VR.
It is almost impossible to not crash frequently.
The field of view is very limited, front and sides, you have the halo, the car is long and wide, accels and brakes too fast.
IRL I just have a few hours in Go Karting (which is slow, have plenty of view and a small footprint).
It is insane how they (F1 drivers) can drive so fast and close and have just a few incidents every race.
By the way, George is underperforming for me, was expecting more from him.
Oh yeah, definitely. If you can let them race without a penalty then carry on. I didn't want a penalty just said I was surprised
Crying
In a parallel universe near you
Sainz was good this week. Russell hasn't been bad at all but maybe at Spa we will see more from him, he did great in qualifying there last year.
Leclerc was also top, only the accelerator once again was not.
It was not the throttle. He and the team have already explained.
It was the accelerator, it wasn't his fault!
He literally said that it was his fault himself after and said that if he keeps doing mistakes like this he doesn't deserve to win the championship.
blah blah
Not fully sold on the “it was my fault” either.
Why own up if it wasn't his fault? It's not exactly a secret that Ferrari's car sucks with reliability and problems
The car is not as stable as some, sainz wasn't error prone before. Ferrari has had issues with clumsy accidents for years now. A weaker performance highlights these issues, all drivers have them, Sainz was stronger here and I doubt he would have had the same issue in this race but he would and has in others.
Ferrari has improved so much, they can continue and make things easier handling wise. Tactically though, they need to be purged.
Politics and showing less weaknesses as a team. He’s always blamed himself first in previous years.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.onboard-charles-leclercs-2022-pirelli-pole-position-award-lap-at-the-french-grand-prix.1739161225482169763.html?minutetv=true
The tow was beautiful, don't know why MV/SP didn't do the same.
Beautiful and completely worthless. Lec gained around .2sec there which was not worth sacrificing part of a brand new engine’s resource
Btw who the hell said a ferrari gonna crash? Click the emoji
Race was good even sitting at last sectors
f*** your mäxchen
The season, and with it the World Cup, is not over yet.
Be nice, don’t be a George
The World Cup is in December, and Max isn’t playing in it
I told lec won’t finish, didn’t actually think he will crash 🤣
god
He didn't build one himself, that was the accelerator.
The mistakes are piling high for Ferrari this year. It's almost as if they are doing all they can to stop themselves from winning the 2022 Formula 1 World Championship. Something always goes wrong during the race and usually that focus is on the strategy department. It's time for heads to roll on the pit wall, or at the very least introduce some...
Wheel left and Medium tyre is low grips
And car is suck
💀
and the accelerator has jammed
Some Ferrari fans don’t want to admit that Charles can’t handle the pressure of going on a championship run yet , I’m a Ferrari fan & it’s obvious the cars reliability is bad & the team orders are just sickening but yesterday was Charles fault & nobody else’s
Watched a comparison with both laps and he pushed too hard actually. Possibly was surprised also by a gust of wind but still - he was pushing
Yes, he was told to pit that lap & he just pushed it a little too much
the truth is that it was the accelerator
Watching the video, nope. It wasn’t. Throttle issue was after he hit wall
No, it was before the flight and that's why he was kicked out. Check it out
No, it was not. https://youtube.com/watch?v=YgGNIkbGcK0&feature=share
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No it was not his fault
There is no way you watched this video in under a minute
Enough with the fanboy-ism, just check it
because I know the truth so I don't have to watch the video, Leclerc Hater
Is 0 fanboy posturing
I’m sorry but where did I say I’m hating on Leclerc ?
He’s one of my favorites 🤣
And I’m sure that you have some very inside info also on telemetry 😉
Yep exactly and I am Putin....
Hello Vlad
it was the accelerator and that's where it stays
Fine. If that’s the truth you want to believe in Let it be 😂
Just hoping you don’t go into that weird flat earth / Chem trails stuff
What I am saying is nothing but the plain truth....
And your proof for it is ?
It that video it literally shows how much more he pushed for it & it’s still Ferraris fault ?😂
Charles had no need to push as much as he did, he was already up 30 seconds on Max
Every great driver make mistakes but according to Charles fans he doesn’t
Source: Trust me bro
Leclerc needs experience to fight at the top. He only had 2019. That year itself was not so solid as well so. Verstappen in order hand already had tons of experience fighting at the top. Feel like last year for Verstappen was the breaking point.
& that’s what Charles fans need to understand because they are not Ferrari fans. Max just went through one of the most dramatic championship seasons ever against statistically the greatest of all time. In 2019 Charles was fighting more against Seb than the Merc
This is in a way good for Charles to go through this at a young point in his career
He said he didn’t watch the video as he knows the truth 🤷🏻♂️ And it’s not in that comparison. I gave up shortly after that
He actually needed to push, he was 27.x secs ahead of MV, not 30, and that was "not" enough to stay ahead of MV after pitting.
They should have pitted right after MV but missed the window.
It was already a lost position, no matter how fast he could go.
But they had enough pace to try to recover on second stint.
It was a mistake, and unfortunately he hit the wall, could just have a little bit more of luck and return to track.
Next race is probably a 1-2 for Ferrari.
MV will go for win, but will accept a 3rd just fine. Perez need to get in shape again.
George too.
I mean technically he was front wheel to rear wheel so technically he's right which goes to show what a stupid rule it is
Technically Checo couldn’t go anywhere else but go out as Karen had space on the left
Exchange 1 “he turned into me”, 1 lap later “he went straight on” 😂🤣
If GR leave enough space to SP, then the rules should apply, but he outbreak so FIA did great job there
He turned into him, realised there was no room so went straight on lol.
I'm with you guys on this. Just pointing out that if the rule says front wheel to rear wheel the attacker gets the benefit then its ridiculous as anyone can just throw themselves up the inside and say my front wheel was ahead of his rear so I have the right regardless of the outcome
Seems like the FIA still can't get the rules clear and actually workable
Also I thought the FIA weren't telling people to give places back anyway so quite what George was hoping to achieve I'm not really sure
I don’t see why this is such a problem for people 🤣. Fine Russell divebomed and did something stupid. But Checo force people out twice in Silverstone? What difference do it make.
I don't think that's the issue tbh, not for me personally anyway. It's how much both of them were whining on the radio afterwards. Both of them were trying to get the other one a penalty which spoilt the battle
Russell is in the wrong though
Yes I agree
But my point stands that if he's quoting a rule that puts him in the right then the rulebook is messed up again
But there was a gap us the problem for me.
Because the rule book is indeed messed up 🤣
Only difference is how people regulate the rules and new people.
The main problem stands
I looked at the rules before the season started. It was not much changed on the old rules. They just added more rules 🤦🏼♂️
The problem is having a rule that says "if the attackers front wheel is in front of the defenders rear wheel the attacker has the right to the corner" doesn't take into account the countless different scenarios that could apply in
They changed any to all don't forget
Well if it was last year. Russell would have won that duel. But this rule got changed to this season from what I heard.
So he's quoting old rules lol?
Technically yes
This rule needs some rework 🤣
Then he's even more of an idiot for moaning about it lol
Shall we re-write the rule book and send it to the FIA. Can't be any worse
FIA did the right thing here. Perhaps Russell should have gotten penalty too. But one thing for sure Checo is the innocent one.
I've never heard anyone say that the driver behind has the right to a corner if they only have the front wheels ahead of the other's back wheels. Never seen it ruled like that as well with penalties.
Also haven't seen anyone except George think that way this weekend and noone referred to it being cuz of some new rule.
Sometimes you read rubbish here...
I am a Ferrari fan and for me this Dutch guy is no opponent. The truth is that Charles didn't make a mistake, it was the accelerator that got him kicked out. That's how it's going to be now, that's how it's going to be tomorrow and that's how it's going to be in the future and you can get your heads around that. And I will not accept a second World Cup from Mäxchen. I didn't tolerate the first one and I won't be forced to accept a second one from this highly hyped guy. Over my dead body.
Asked you yesterday - telemetry is also out and throttle was at zero. So where is this inside info you have that proves it ?
Max doesn’t play football at World Cup level 😉
The irony of calling Charles a liar when trying to defend him 😅 He said it was his fault himself. End of.
Might be the case of Ocon-Ham battle at Monaco, which Ocon get 5s penalty for not giving space at turn 1.
It was the accelerator and that's how it stays. I'm sure you all still believe in Father Christmas. And I never called him a liar, the impudence here!
as
What did you say? Sorry, I'm German...
And what does that mean?
If this is meant to be negative towards me, I'll report it to the admin...
well...
I didn't want to do anything wrong
A fine example of a 100% blind person here (sport wise).
do you want to be reported too? i won't be called blind.
I didnt know to win a WDC a driver needs "your" acceptance. You may not like or root for MV, but he is the best driver right now.
he is the best in the out slide see barcelona
also stupid mistake vo
but at least I could laugh 🤣
I said he is the best, not that he is perfect.
The error of Charles in Italy was also accelerator problem?
Anyway, I find Charles a great driver.
he's not the best, he'll die before he's the best 🤣
no that was his mistake
For a possible fan of MSC you should not desire death to people.
I have not
If this is not calling for a premature death of a person, than I dont know what it is.
He said himself it was his own mistake. Therefore by denying that and saying it was the throttle you are calling him a liar 🤷🏼♂️
George just making up rules as he goes along now then lol. I haven't seen anyone else refer to it either, maybe it's in one of Toto's emails?
leclerc is not a liar!!!
I believe my eyes, the telemetry and Leclerc over a random guy here claiming he knows better
You think so, but that doesn't make it right...
I actually do have proof
good for you want a biscuit?
Do you have proof ? For the last time
lol you are still wasting you time with fam boy? after 2 days of talking into the wall? 🤣
I am not a fanboy, but a real die-hard fan
That’s the same thing 🤣
No, a fanboy is what this Mäxchen has, supporters who only see his positive sides, if he gets kicked out, it's someone else's fault (see Barcelona, or Monza and Silverstone 21 where he was 50% to blame but his fanboys blamed Lewis 100%).
But a true fan looks at everything according to the facts (as I do) and doesn't talk anything down or up.
And asking multiple times about those “facts” only you somehow have results in a change of subject
i am starting to think he is an ultimate troll 😅
if that was directed at me, i'll complain to the administration. you're not a troll if you stick to facts.
You keep referring to “facts” without providing ANY of them. That is not a fact, that is an opinion.
You're the one calling him a liar by saying it was the throttles fault 🤦🏼♂️😂
don't talk rubbish, leclerc is not a liar.
And again - when asked about these magical “facts” a change of subject 😂
More difficult to get than a Loch Ness monster picture it appears
Leclerc, "I made a mistake and need to stop making them."
You, "he didn't make a mistake, it was the throttle."
Also you, "LeCLerC iS nOT a LiAr!"
he is also not
Facts, what are those mythical things you mention?
How is he not a liar if it was the throttle that cause the accident?
Max 1 Per 2 3 Sainz 4 Lec 5 Rus 6 Ham
Hungarian grand prix standings
Lec sai ver ham per Rus
nice for red bull..., they can get a biscuit for it
Facts
Did I say anything different?
Hungarian GP Standings: 1. Leclerc 2. Sainz 3. Hamilton (or Russel) Verstappen and Perez DNF these Red Bull fanboys really deserve it 🤣
Willing to bet it’s more likely for a Ferrari to DNF.
Depends which Mercedes starts bowling this year
KR is 3/3 last races
Very funny. I think the problem with the throttle is fixed so you won't fly off like that anymore. Ferrari know they are in the race for the championship, their strategy went in the right direction and Leclerc and Sainz haven't made any mistakes in a while, so I think they are ready to destroy the sherbet 😈
Mercedes is 3rd in power - Ferrari is not fazed by that. After all, they are on a par with Red Bull.
Facts ?
For what?
For this imaginary throttle problem you keep referring to despite the proof of the exact opposite 😂
can you stop with your "oh facts, facts, facts"? it's getting annoying.
Leclerc spun as simple as that
No, it was the accelerator pedal, look truth in the face!
the truth is that it was the accelerator.
Evidence?
Don’t bother - source is “trust me bro I’m saying facts so it must be true”
Well if he don’t have any proof then case close 🤝. I advise him to shut his mouth.
Stop spreading such lies about me.
0 credibility to his statement.
Lol now I’m saying lies about you? 🤣🤷🏻♂️
What lies? The stuff you said that is being logged into the server above?
Here is a pure fact - your claims so far have zero evidence, were already proven to be wrong on multiple occasions by multiple sources - including Ferrari, Leclerc, the telemetry itself and multiple videos showing throttle was fine when he crashed.
If you claim that I always want to tell the truth, that is simply wrong....
Well why wouldn’t you tell the truth in that case ? Why do you keep referring to your own version of truth, which is completely wrong, as “facts” and “I know better than Ferrari”?
My man is making some statements out of the blue 🤣
And it was the accelerator and that's where it will stay in the future.
And the sky is orange and that’s where it will stay in the future. Fact cause I know
Your version is wrong look the damn truth in the face or are you lost?
I’m not. It’s a fact.
So if you can't tell blue from orange...
It’s orange because I know it is. See? Irrefutable fact. You are wrong it’s blue
No it is not a fact.
Just shut up. You got 0 evidence.
All of you are wrong. Gravity pulled leclerc into the barriers. I always speak the truth 🙂
You don't tell me to shut up, I don't let normal people tell me anything, I keep talking no matter if he says be quiet....
How about no?
how about shut up
See the smoke coming out is gravity, I win. Case closed
Actually I do think it’s the accelerator - the guy who was behind the wheel pushed it too long before hitting the breaks
The helicopter pulled Leclerc out of track, causing him to spun
Are you lost? It jammed without him doing anything.
Either way its ferrari's strategy that screws up or the drivers. if that keeps happening down the line, I bet mercs will catch up to them
Facts ! 🤣😂🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Lol just ignore him or he will keep the stupidity up
In France, Leclerc was on a top strategy and would have had better tyres at the back.
I posted above - Ferrari are doing their best to end up third in a two horse race
do you want me to report you? That's rushing.
Thats actually sad, I hope they dont end up that way. They got a chance to push to the top this year and feel like they are throwing it away
No they are a top team and they know it.
dont care what you think. do watever you want
I’m looking forward to the next race and seeing what the excuse will be there
*Truth
*”fact”
stupid driver 🤣
Are you lost? That was his mistake, but it doesn't matter because it wasn't a World Cup race.
But you can also play the game in pairs. Mäxchen made some really stupid mistakes in Bahrain and Australia.
I’m not sure who this maxchen and World Cup you are talking about are - World Cup is usually in competitive team sports, like football. There is currently no maxchen driver in f1 so I’m quite confused also
Mäxchen = Max Verstappen. I'll call him whatever I want, okay?
Facts
And I can't help it if the translator translates WM as World Cup...
Now I see where the issue is
I'm just not English, is that a problem?
Ok block
You're a pain in the ass.
He can still see my messages even if I am blocked 🤣
It’s definitely not a problem, but the problem is not accepting things that are actually true. And I’m completely stubborn and I will try to actually make you realize that the throttle / accelerator was not an issue. As soon as Charles released it and went on the breaks throttle was at 0 and stayed that way until the crash. No matter how big fan you are, sometimes you have to admit that your favorite made a mistake. And here - Charles did a stupid one that cost him the win. Again. He tends to do such silly little mistakes but at least he’s learning from them and that’s why he’s liked even by fans of other teams
I accept the truth and it says that it is the accelerator. Now leave me alone with the rubbish, Hungary is coming up. Otherwise you'll be the next one to be blocked.
You are in denial. Telemetry shows it, videos show it
The fact that you for some reason have this stupid idea this is the reason doesn’t make it right
Final warning. Silence now!
I’m so scared
A delusional guy will block me because he’s talking rubbish - I’m completely shocked
He probably got a text from leclerc telling him it was the accelerator
That’s binotto in disguise
It was the accelerator and that's the truth and now shut up
Poor Charles…
shut up this, shut up that, use your brains for once 😂
Let’s carry on with our day folks…
Accelerate into the rest of the day! 😂
I prefer to lift and coast, but to each is own…
he accelerated into #💬│f1-clash-general now 😂
Do you have any problem with that?
I can assure you that probably all of the guys in here are older than you
Older than 33 too?
Yes. Older than 33 also
Hey guys should I put Guenther Steiner On my pfp?
Shut up already is definitely the last warning now, it sucks
so the issue is that accelerator was at 0? Got it
And goodbye...
So now there is peace. It's your own fault.
He is capping
Summary of the Porsche/RB deal:
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Porsche will be in charge of making the power unit
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Porsche will have 50% shares of Red Bull Racing
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They will also create and develop the chassis
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10 year deal starts in 2026 (possibly to sell their shares after the 10 years.)
#F1
@river summit
Chassis also? O.o
Red Bull Porsche sounds better than Red Bull racing rbpt for sure 🤣
Yeah sure red bull is going to do nothing and Porsche will take over
And they have a way out also if it doesn’t work
I wonder whats the plan for Porsche and RB. Surely
Porsche gonna bring their own engine.
They had an V6 engine ready which they used for Le Man but very for F1 too so.
How do you know it was the accelerator?
Source “trust me bro, I used the word “fact” so it must be true”
I've just been laughing catching up on the conversation. Personal favourite, "the sky is orange and that's the way it will stay"
If you say such nonsense about me again, I'll send an official complaint to the admins!
Well, I said “fact” didn’t I ? So it must be true
Didn’t you block me already?
Please can you tell me how you know it was the accelerator?
I’ve been trying for 3 days now. The only source was “I know it was accelerator”
You never said "please" though so I'm trying a different strategy lol
One that just appears to be ignored rather than replied to
Telemetry? Obviously doesn’t work, all lies. Videos ? Again no - doesn’t have “fact” in it. Interviews ? Nope, see above, all lies
Well it appears he isn't responding to me 😭 so I guess we'll never know 🤷🏼♂️
stop feeding the troll guys... or i report you to admins... that's fact 😂
he do the same? so we can do the same to him
lol
I'm immune to admins, that's a "fact" too
It’s funny cause I said Ferrari will get a double win this week and he still calls me a hater 🤣
Strange how autocorrect changes DNF to win in your messages isn't it 😂
Come on, they can’t screw up again in Hungary
It's Ferrari, they could have the mother of all screw ups lol
Even though last time there was a track with “obvious” advantage the team with the advantage lost
They should be able to just cruise to victory there
troll
🤣 🤣
Did you see my message friend? How do you know it was the accelerator?
obviously lec was using it before he spun... and same as with gun, it's not person's fault who pull the trigger but gun's... it's not his fault he was driving too fast, it's accelerator's fault 🤣
because the accelerator pedal also jammed...
How do you know?
maybe he is antman and was holding it up so he crashes and max can win 😂
Maybe he is the throttle... 😂
also possible 🤣
Seb finally made Instagram account btw
Look at that guy getting blocked in 2s 🤣
don't understand at all how you can compare leclerc france's failure with seb's. seb's failure was a driving error from which he got away and leclerc's was due to the car. and he will get away from that too. believe more and more that there are stupid people running around here on the server.
why should seb be blocked? what has he done?
,
What
Leclerc went with 20 kmh
More
Than usual
In the corner
Dont blame the car for smth he did
Don’t bother
He’s been going on with his own version of “facts” for the last 4 days
What is wrong ?
Clearly his “facts” are wrong 😂 but he won’t listen
why should i blame him if the accelerator jammed?
See?
Bro
and these are facts, not opinions. Look the truth in the face, damn it.
you will not understand
“Facts” 🤣
Vettel is retiring end of the season. Breaking news
Wasn’t he going to stay?
Ted Kravits hinted strongly on his show last weekend that he was retiring. That's genuinely gutting
It's the best thing he can do to get away from these abusive critics. But resignations are not final
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
See Schumi 2010
Big loss of a profile in Vettel and sadly increases the risk of Stroll staying.
I’m kinda depressed
I am sad but Aston project is going to a protracted painful failure so getting out now makes sense. Hopefully he'll compete in other motorsports.
Maybe in the distant future, but right now it’s because of family he’s retiring
Yes but there's F1 schedule then a sensible one
How do you know the accelerator jammed?
Totally agree. It likely means Aston will keep Stroll as their "experienced" driver and pick up hopefully a new youngster
Should go and buy Gasly out. Seb is Aston's only selling point and they're losing it.
Maybe Mick Sch
I think Mick has a running contract and the Haas is better than the Aston Martin...
Besides, Mick is a Ferrari man
It's terrible for Aston, Gasly and Ricciardo are in the middle of a malaise and those are their proven options. Then theres Mick, he had good race once didn't he? After that it's a new driver, more likely to have to borrow a good one of those.
Mick had several good races and only one self-inflicted accident in Jeddah....
Glad YOU are here to reassure me.
Here's what's going to happen, Daddy Stroll going to pay Max a bomb to move. Turn Aston into title contending car, Seb changes mind, goes back to RB and him and Lewis tie the title in everyway making them joint winners then they both retire on a high
We gonna lose Daniel Ric too. Hold your tears guys.
I just want Stroll gone 😅 Felt the same way about Pastor Maldonado for too many years.
I wonder if danny will move to aston
Sugar daddy will never leave
Sugar Danny
Then he will finish his career before he joins the team
It should have been Seb + Ric in that team 😈
yeaah that would have been fun
I see the potential in that team. But I feel like it was never supported properly before Stroll came inn. But with that came other problems. Even Otmar left.
Stroll and Latifi both need to go. Seen nothing from them that means they're deserving of their place
Get Latifi and stroll together in Aston
what do you mean... latifi is good for barrier testing... same as grosjean 😄
Then there would be a placement of 18 drivers almost every race 😆
Dream team would be a comeback for Mazepin 😂
One question: why the hate for Stroll ? I mean, this year, performance wise, he’s been right there with Vettel (and most would agree Vettel is a very good driver).
The car is the issue with Aston Martin this year, not the drivers
- He only got the drive initially because of daddy Stroll
- There's better drivers currently without a seat, Grosjean, Hulkenburg
- There's better young drivers who don't get an opportunity because he's taking up a seat on finances rather than ability
He hasn't performed near vettel. Vettel has 3 times as many point despite missing a race with COVID and out qualified him 8-2. I am somewhat of a defender of stroll but vettel is one the drivers on the grid capable of massively out performing his car, stroll isn't.
Wdym???
select a role #👥│role-setup
How do u create a background?
this channel is strictly for f1 related content. You can use #💬│f1-clash-general to post f1 clash related stuff. Also to answer your question you cant change the background
Yeah, ok ! Looking at the numbers you’re more than correct. But outside the 2 instances where Vettel was 9th and Stroll 18-19, it has been close. I mean Vettel is 17, Stroll 18, or Vettel 15, Stroll 16.
The problem still is the car, more than the drivers … for that team
The problem is that because of drivers like him others more talented ones are not getting a seat
Forget the old ones we have, even promising drivers can’t get in because of the sponsors
Heck, even mick is basically a “paid” driver
Maybe Piastri should get a seat in aston 🤔
I hope so
It's hardly night and day in my eyes, I wouldn't put a huge gap between stroll and bottas in level, slightly ahead of k mag too
Piastri wants the McLaren seat
his manager announced that they haven’t signed with Williams cause of that
If thats the case Danny will be out since aston has to choose someone for next year
I think Svally above mentioned it
The case lies for 2024 seat tho
yeah but most likely Daniel will stay
Next season should seal his fate
But why not get xp in Williams before moving to mclaren
True
Latifi has yet to state his retirement 🤣
Poor lad, everyone’s on his back, and everyone would be surprised to see him comeback.
George outqualified him before and now albon comes and does the same 😄 Well might give a new rookie a chance
sad truth of f1 😦
there should be some pay to drive division of f1 where those drivers do about 10 laps before the actual f1 race 😄
We need 1 more team
Mazespin won’t do well there
then they hand cars that were developed using their money to actual drivers 😄
Andretti!!!
Most likely addition indeed but … all talks still
actualy scratch it... they would have destroyed like half of the cars so the real drivers would have nothing to drive after 😄
We can have a f1 minor league for them 😄
“My daddy is richer than your daddy” seems like a good name for the league
It’s rare for drivers that have money since day one to be an actual good driver

