#💬│f1-clash-general
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But am not a win for setup
get some qualifying and you are good to go
but pray for decent race starts if youre using borto/max/carlos
Am not qualifynig its the best setup for me now
i think i still used aero blade instead of xhale, even if my xhale is now level 6
(and im using xhale in s10 setup
tbf this setup is more than fine, piastri is also a valid choice for s9 if you dont want to use max
maybe get drs, useful in everywhere except for monaco
Ye amax its god but no tires
well, my piastri is at level 1
Hello guys its my first season playing f1 clash.. was wondering if the game was so much pay to win always or has it spiked this season because I've played a fare share of games but not as much pay to win as this one.. i mean i am genuinely curious
wait piastri is s8?
Yea level 5
hmm is he even better than sainz then
tbf overtaking isnt absolutely needed but i guess in your case, if you dont have the coins to upgrade sainz then piastri may be better
I arrived in 2020. It's been getting worse, losing playability and becoming more and more in-store purchases. Unfortunately, that's how it is. I hope they reverse it, but I don't know... I'm losing hope.
Impossible... they survive mainly thanks to these people. On the one hand, they're doing the right thing: it's right to take money away from people like that, so I don't criticize them. But they should organize it differently: on the one hand, those who spend money play, then those who play by spending only pit passes, and then the total free ones...
when the ads make coins and I tell you if it's better or not I mean saiz
That's three consecutive legendary events!! And to top it off, this next one is practically the same as the Best of Brazil event... inexplicable.
@opal carbon Why not review the sprint race awards to take into account the addition of new assets?
I mean the game itself is very good and a bliss for any f1 fan but man this pressure to just spend can be very frustrating and you just cant compete if you don't spend..game almost punishes you for not spending... i guess good for hutch but they won't retain big player base ever.... it will always be a small pool of spending players
They might be. Special Editions have only been out for 1 week
I'm not saying it has to be right now, but perhaps in a future update. Will it be possible to evaluate the new game mode F1 Moments soon?
Hopefully soon for Moments 🙏
Otherwise, some players play, and then in Grand Prix events, those same players gain a small but significant advantage.
Nowadays, GPs have requirements for accessing bonus points that involve excessive spending...it's pointless to do them...if all goes well, you can manage one event per month now.
Motivation to play suddenly went close to zero. It was a good first half of the season.
Not possible in the environment where lack of skill can be easily compensated by spending. They should have medals with an asterisk 😆
You can pay to play the next two Grand Prix to get your motivation back!
Yeah absolutely massive advantage there with 50 commons and 15 rares daily 😀😀😀😀😀😀
There was only one prohibitive event with the legendary drivers...and so, all in all, it was playable. Now almost everyone has legendary drivers and this new gimmick with special drivers...it's practically pointless to race to develop common/rare/epic drivers anymore, they're practically useless.
We've reached the point where we have to pay to play... madness.
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Enough payers here, I will pass ☺️
As I said before 50/50% split for p2w and normal events was a healthy balance. Now its just a bad joke.
But there are two interpretations: they do it on purpose to take money from those who pay to play, or they do it involuntarily... and this would be extremely worrying: it would mean that the testing phase is non-existent and they live on improvisation.
In February/March, they will all have unattainable requirements unless you pay a lot.
Yeah I remember it from last year. Thats so ironic that many people were joking about new rarities for months and they were not so wrong in the end 😂
Probably both
Instead of team series GPs which are liked by everyone we will have hot prospects turbocharged hypercharged reloaded 🤦♂️
@opal carbon Enough with these race points in events and legendary drivers, it's become monotonous and unplayable, we're fed up!
Race points are ok, requirements for it are not
But does it seem normal to you that you have to spend thousands of euros to get drivers of the right standard? The issue is not the spending itself, but the crazy amounts you have to invest... and you don't even know if you'll get there.
To be honest its all players fault, Hutch is pulling the line how much more they can spend and if they still do Hutch would be stupid not to pull it more and more
but is the formula 1 season 2025 played or a legendary formula 1 legendary drivers make no sense today
Well we know @opal carbon has passed our concerns but the team he talked to doesn’t look like they’ll slow down at all.
It starts with basic spending when someone cant grind normally and just buys the cards
It ends with hypercharged reloaded rarities
We all get what we asked for somehow 🙂
I don't know who likes them but the game makes no sense we want to play with real and current drivers otherwise they would be playing a legendary formula one...
only way you're going to get any change is cutting that rope they're pulling on. but that's not very likely to happen given past experiences with supposed boycotts that lasted a couple of days at most.
Yeah nothing against Sam personally just general thoughts on the direction it all goes
Anyway, just in case, I just sold a small plot of land in Kansas so I can play the next Grand Prix!
This game is just driving players away, we've already lost so many of them and if they continue like this they'll realise it.
yet their revenues are up.
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I'm new to the game and to the world of Formula 1 I want tips on how to win the game🥲
Im f2p
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14th Jan we will have a nice GP, enjoy it guys, who knows if its not the last fair GP of the season 😆
Players can spend but then they realize that the coffers are empty if not full of useless duplicates the percentages of finding resources are practically impossible
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point is, when these are the results, what incentive do they have to do things differently?
Hi
highest DAUs in 3 years says people are not leaving the game in droves, or at the very least that more new players are joining the game than people who are leaving.
“Significantly Improved players experience” interesting. I missed the fact when they fixed the race starts and all other well known bugs
It's our fault that we continue to play it, we should all stop because they only make fun of us and the money we spend is not worth what they guarantee we will find
Ehhhhh Black?
Everyone saying the wet weather tyre its blue... are this guys mad? They are black
Correct answer is turbocharged
Right?
that's what I was saying - the only way of getting change is cutting that rope. but we've seen how initiatives ended up in the past, so that's unlikely to happen.
I mean the it's Black, if it's blue then tyre should be all blue
It’s an unsustainable surge. Once players realize that whatever they buy will only be good for a very limited amount of time they will think more when presented with similar offers.
The tyre its black... not even a question... now the identify stripe its another issue
They're clearly gold
I understand and agree with your standpoint, but still that unsastainable surge appears to be working out for them. revenues are up and daily active users are up. so they're gaining more users than they're losing.
Take lauda or stewart for example, how many GPs were they useful?
I'm changing my awsner to Chrome it's hard to guess
hello guys new player here, can i ask help here?
If I answer "black" am I wrong?
Feel free to ask
In general or in regards to the specific question?
You can, though it may be more fruitful to ask in https://discord.com/channels/649307821388595211/1146703379901464636 or search that channel for existing answers that may help you
To that specific question, but depending on your answer could be in general aswell 😅
I just wondering which to upgrade first, driver or car? coz it starts to get expensive
Does anyone have same problem with starting the game it stops here
Sometimes mine sticks here a little, depending on my connection. If I wait a little it loads normally
It varies to which series your doing
For now yes and drivers are good aswell
should i upgrade bortoletto? He start losing to my bearman now.
Maybe haas made the car better and sauber couldn't keep up
I mean in the game though lol
You can if you want to but here's a tip each series upgrade the part and drivers that goes with the track stats
Oh in game... yeah bortoleto will be eventually better than bearman
and in objective crates, i should buy the platinum crate right?
All the Crates if you get enough
I just play for 3-4 days right now haha
Depends what you need... if you can all of them would be the better plan... but those x2 coins to get fast coins are good too
Play in your free time or anytime but here's a warning it may get addictive
And sometimes a pain in the back side
And then yhe complains will start
Exelente todos los cambios que está haciendo f1
yeah its pretty fun, i just wish i can buy pass to skip ads
I already started to moan at Series 7
But brushed pass the pop goes the weasel I'm in Series 10
You have plenty of time still to complain further
Ads are a pain but they are worth it
Yeah right now i do all the ads
For further down the line in different series I have screenshots from Series 4-9 setups of both drivers and car
i think i will stay at series 3 for now, need huge upgrade i just dont know what to upgrade basically
Especially the driver
Definitely Bortoleto then Curver 2.5 as it's a good part
is it worth to max driver from series 1
No
My bortoleto can go to level 5
Bortoleto is good early in the series till you Get Epic Hadjar
I imagine those who bought legacies to increase specials are happy and see 4 events where there isn't a single prospect.
He is on god mode in the early series once you unlock him
epic is purple right? i have isack hadjar
Yes
It's difficult but you will eventually get him
Is thos worth to upgrade?
There's plenty of time anyway don't rush, still got until 6th May till next season starts in the game
I dont know where to get epic shard to pupgrade. all i got is orange one
You'll get some in Gold Crates and above if you get them or the Weekly Leagues or GP
I just unlock weekly league today
And for The Stabiliser upgrade it for now but once you have Supernova focus on that part
so upgrade this?
Si
So later i focus on epic hadjar right?
I dont need to upgrade my bortoletto more right?
How to participate
Dude my bearman top 3 but my bortoleto last place
hello, suddenly i can go to series 4, should istay at series 3? or just move on
There is sprint races event though 🙁
Game umis garbage. I had forfeited races during the last 4 and consecutive grand prix and missed the cut. Races didn't even started and were forgitted. My unternet conextion was perfectly fine with 2.000MB/S. Resume: don't waste your time and money in this game. Its not worth it.
Move to another game. Seriously, its not worth it. Once you get to higher levels than my (im in 12 series) you will start experiencing unexpected crashes
Sorry but this isn't a thing.
It will. Believe me.
help
Support won't do anything. And by the time you are in 12 series you would have spent some money
There are other games much better than thus one you can spend your money in
Disconnections can happen at any point. Speed generally isn't the problem it's usually due to latency or packet loss which doesn't impact speed and various other services.
Need help on guide series 4
I play other games qith no issues
If you'd like to DM me your Player ID, I can check game logs for what has triggered the disconnections. The fact there are multiple disconnections hints at a potential issue
And suspisiously all these crashes happens on saturday when Im trying to qualify for Sunday
Good series9 or pistri fo Verstappen but no tires
It doesn't matter. Reasons? 1 forfeited races happened before the race started so why is it still counting as a race completed with 3 points? 2 support wont give me anything and the qualy for the last 4 gramd prix already happaned and I missed them all
That is why Im warninng people to not play this game
You missed the qualification for the last 4 grand prix events due to disconnections?
Correct
I believe they were in a row
But last 3 for sure and I reported that tl the support team
The fact these aren't widespread issues experienced by other Players refines the options down for what it could be quite a bit
I don't care about that since I understand this things could happen. But since we put real money and time on this I believe all the players deserves some support
Besides, if this happened to me, it means it could happen to anyone.
That's fair. I'm assuming you've logged a support ticket for each of the GP's you didn't qualify for? Did they provide any feedback as to what caused the disconnections?
Also, some players on my team had same issues, so this is not me only
They did, and they responded for the first time I reported the issue
Its really frustrating to spend time and money and you get out of the cut just because one forfeited races that again didn't even started for 4 consecutive times
Disconnections do happen, for quite a number of reasons both avoidable and non-avoidable unfortunately.
When there are widespread issues based on our end we generally provide compensation for Players.
What there isn't is any increase in forced disconnections or forfeits based on a Players progression at any point
I think everybody should know this so they can take a brake and think about playing this type of games or not
I'm with you, but unfortunately (i don't understand why) after a forfeited races you get 3 points and you miss the cut because you won't be able to make the minimum number os points.
Then you have tl wait til the next weekend to qualify
Its a WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
Amd no support
And I bought the last 4 passes
11.usd each for no support?
People are not stupid. They wont play a game like this
At least not in the US
Part of the reason a disconnect is considered a forfeit and issues 3 points is there are no mechanisms to determine a genuine disconnection (through no fault of the Player) and a malicious, intentional disconnection in the instance someone might be losing a race for example.
That's not the best experience for Players though, I agree, so there is a design somewhere in progress for providing some mechanism to help Players who might experience the odd disconnection, especially during GP Events
Its very simple, if a player has a disconnection before the race starts they deserve to race it again without lossing a race
And since there is no way to determine if it was intentional or not the game penalizes players?
is it worth to buy pass now? coz ended in 22 days
Come on
Dont spend a dime on this game. Read the chat please
Unfortunately, many Players disconnect intentionally simply by seeing who they're matched against.
There should be a way to know what happened and even so the race didn't even started. Why don't give players another chance?
No, forfeited races happened before showing me the opponent
Am hate vlthis game
Here's an example: A Player isn't happy with their race so they turn the wifi off on their mobile to disconnect. From our side, we only see they disconnected from the race due to losing their connection to the race server. Not that they did it intentionally.
I have screenshots
I can see both sides of it, and i understand trying to make a stance for fairness. It all depends on how the disconnects get logged if something can happen
U guys don't see it
If a race that doesn't even started and I cannot see my oppnent why whould I intentionally disconnect?
If it happens before matchmaking, a race hasn't been initiated on the server which means a forfeit shouldn't be triggered
Im not saying you did or would. I'm saying it all depends on how the code can read what happened and respond.
I remember 2 of them were in the middle of a race
Stop crying
The servers do not load the pre-race process or load a race until both players have completed matchmaking and completed several confirmations in the background
Last one was while doing the matchmaking
If it was after the cancel button disappears, a match was made
And?
You will understand later. Once you put money on the game and start experiencing what Im saying
Money? How much?
I think its a stretch everyone will experience it
That’s all people do around here.
I'm just doing you a favor guys. I'm worning you
Probably 60 usd
Of a unique experience that others don't appear to experience, it seems
In a year
60$ only? Is that called money?
60 is just my fuel around of
Man seriously?
Dude its nothing
I thought it was more than 300$
$60 might be a lot to some, let's not judge how much value people place on an amount.
A game that is not fair and it does nothing when things happens
You are so mind limited
Can you DM me your Player ID? Generally speaking the Support team will provide some level of compensation, at least a few times, around issues.
My god I thought we were over people with this thoughts
So you r telling that you spend 60 for the last passes?
You don't have this permission, sorry
I know you have good intentions but the players here are smart enough to know if they want to keep playing or not IF they have experienced such issues. If they can't relate to your experiences then they will just keep playing.
Naaaa don't worry. The only time the support assisted me they gave me the fee back and some boots
That doesn't sound like "nothing"
He is crying let them provide a waiver 🤣
Bye bye
In game support has been great today. My issues was solved within the hour. Was a bit surprised considering the holidays. But great job Hutch.
Lol he left the server, so suspicious
Call me suspicious but I get the feeling that wasn't genuine
It felt like someone wanting attention
I c
I mean, some parts did feel genuinely american, like "people are not stupid" immediately followed by "at least not in the US"
Acting like kids r awful
I think sometimes all people forget this is a game/hobby and what is the common factor with all games/hobbies? They take up your extra time and money
Why did they spend on somthing which is bot affordable for their budget then
Yes. We Americans definitely have the best education system
N””
🙃
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the way he was "warning" people was like a corporate sabotage operation spreading misinformation 😆
Such a great educational system which depends on credit cards
Ummm
Education doesn’t depend on credit card. Just the rest of the country is.
You still didn’t get the point baby
you mean it depends on the education of voters who elect the school board and whether they fall for some qanon nonsense
I got the point….. you don’t expect me to agree with you though
Did i said that?
Woah woah woah you're not one of those Lucy 25F looking for gaming partner are you? calling people baby. They have evolved 🤔
Everyone falls for it. Especially if they have a pod cast
Can someone advise of the best series 7 driver to start upgrading please
I personally didn’t use any series 7 driver. Didn’t think it was worth it. But some people may say otherwise.
Been stuck in series 7 for what feels like ages. Got 2 level 6 driver but cant win 2 races in a row. Refuse ti buy the pass since it doubled in price so that may be the main reason
Kimi rare and Bearman epic got me through series 6 & 7. I play like a snail as I am totally free-to-play. So I stay in each series for quite some time.
If no one responded to you I will so if you cant gain any more flags in Series 3 I would say got to Series 4 to get SuperNova and X-Hale
yeah i will do after opening this s3 box
@opal carbon I haven't got any reply back from support and its been 2 days nobody has been helping me with my issues
Colapinto_25:
how are yall so good at the game
Guys, is it normal if I unlock series 9 and I lose all the games, even series 8 that I always won?
@quick slate
@silver steppe
Most games get pay to win after a certain point, but that doesn't seem like what's happening here,
Try messing around with strategies and Drs timings and intervals, also, make sure you're picking tracks that compliment boosts you have and build your car for the track of the series you are playing in.
For example, if picking a slightly worse on paper part means you have better cornering on a curvy track, it might be and likely is worth it to pick that part.
Make sure you're using your Drs on straights most of the time and save some energy to build up speed at the start of your straight before turning on Drs so you get the most momentum to build up speed and pass players at the same time in attack mode.
Also, Drs can help you save on tire wear on maps that might let you get away with 1 les pitstop to save a few seconds,
Also, most importantly, make sure you're remembering to focus on getting through all of the laps as fast and as optimally as you can, rather than trying to be ahead and overtake everyone only to fall behind because you have to take a badly timed or even extra pit stop
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Yes it is normal
Without any further details like a Player ID, I cannot help further sorry
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But my enemy its fuking powerfulll
Ok see am foucs for the curve but no Speed and tires
we have @opal carbon here? 😄
Its so funny see players using very good boost to just win simple duel. Than you come in GP (I dont say its same ppl) but you playing final round VS someone, and they use free boost 😄 how funny 😄
Its same as your all other "friends" coming here, you are S9, and your gear is just not that good to compete. very low levels
Is there anyone free here? DM me. I’m getting bored. Please send a message if you're 25 or older, because I prefer talking to people around my age or older
Yes 100% agree. if big spenders are in your group, you stand no chance to win. And now, it is 75% of GPs...
Unless you got the boosts to actually win against them
It’s funny that every time a Jenny comes - it is always looking for people 25+ 😀😀😀
Until when are we going to accept this?
Can I dm you?
Well chillout till the end of season thats it for me now. Occasionally will play a gp when playable fair event shows up. No more pitpass to fund this circus even a bit, that was my only spend anyway 🙂
dm open 25+
Hallo zusammen
yes
im 29
20
If you have the guts... how much have you given Hutch so far... it is Christmas after all.
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I FORGOT TO DO SPRINTS I've been thinking what have I been missing today
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What’s up gang members 😎 what series yall on?
12
Guys help i am addicted
GP event??
Anyone feel this new event info put pressure on device. I use iphone and ipad and it getting hot after a few minute. This did not happened last week.
Switch to 30fps
Oh, tks, forgot i change this setting
Do we have list of reward in each weekly leagur tier?
S12 with a coin boost. Others will have done more than me
Go to bed man. It’s like 4/am your time
A lot of dedication
I am in India today it is morning 🤣 🤣
Ohhhh. It’s 11 pm here. I’m off to bed. Enjoy the food
And the 🚽
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What addiction u mean in this photo ?
Ohhh its
So I'm getting my first couple prospect assets and just like legends they need the other coins. There isn't any real way to collect them in enough quantity outside of dropping hundreds of dollars on this scam game, so what's was the point of adding them to the game
Who’s this cry baby 😭 put wets to waste my time
He is shadow from australia F1 team 😄
For Christmas I would like the AI tyre management , I just watched lvl 2 Prost deplete his battery while running 5 softs in Austria with 61 TM 🤣.
I wonder when they're gonna start milking Schumacher
Hahahah well done man
This is absolutely unsportsmanlike behavior. In my opinion, anyone who does this should be banned.
This is absolutely unsportsmanlike behavior. In my opinion, anyone who does this should be banned.
If you repot them - and it’s repeat offense - action is taken
/ship
Anyone knows what's the plan for the moments mode? Is it still in beta testing?
It is. Last message from Sam was "Hopefully soon"
Ok hopefully it comes out in a few weeks. Could do with the extra crates for prospects and L12 epics
None of the current crates have neither prospects nor epics. You get ~60 commons and ~10 rares daily
I thought moments crates were the same as GP race crates? Those had prospects and epics
And when there were better crates - it usually required a legendary (senna / mansell) 😄
Nope. 1 coin crate, 2 free crates and one that has 8 commons and 2 free boosts
oh golly - you can tell I'm not one of the beta testers. looks like it's been tweaked then. I remember seeing earlier screenshots where it was the GP event crates.
It never did. There were some legends arise / legendary driver ones and standard crates. Never did we get a GP (the one for winning) crate.
It really isn't the "Oh god it's such a massive advantage" thing that some make it appear it is 😄
I wasn't thinking of that tbh, cos beta testing is like that. Was more thinking that there were other alternate ways to try to get epics.
I'm debating how many players have Chaos Core at L4 to decide if I will go for Champs in the upcoming events - I basically need 24 cards to get it, not impossible if I land a legendary crate and get lucky with it (and a few gold crates)
You have today for some sprints 😄
People have been farming the S12 new parts since last week. I'd assume Lvl4 is not that rare. And it also depends on your GP grouping
Yeah that's the issue. I think I've completed at least 4 sprints today alone, finishing in top 3 for all. But I think my GP grouping will be decently strong because I have finished top 10 twice in Champion tier (my contender S9 groupings have been brutal as a result - last two cutoffs in events was 372 and 356 - didn't have the sponsor task and thus failed to qualify).
I could do contender again (I've been there for the past 3 events), and I have E Fittipaldi but at L2, so I'm not too keen, and I do want to try to get more Epic S12 cards so the champs tier is tempting me
guess I'll grind more sprints after work lol
good luck! 😄
If your contender groupings are rather difficult, it's unlikely your champion ones are easier 😄 If you are patient - just skip a few
This is game f1 clash very good

Was gonna ask. Does skipping a few events help your groupings, or is it not doing well in an event? (I thought it's based on your average pwrformance) Not that i wanna tank, it's just that it's nice to have some crates while I'm playing through the event regardless
Hi
Both appear to be working. Junior / Challenger final as low as possible seem to be working (slightly better) though (I did that last year - and i'm skipping now as I'm pretty bored) - but it's ok
@opal carbon
I think Sam is not free
Y a des francais
Someone is very possessive here
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He's clinging to Sam as he doesn't have the bottle to cling to 😄
Upgrade the wheels because when I use medium I saw the wheels is solf
2 events pending... there s a storm coming...
We can never be happy 😄
If he didn't post them - why they are not up 😄 If he did - why it's not full 😄
Joking aside - I hope not another set of "specials"
I dont mind they post them, the problem its what they post... it seems the sponsor tasks will change as now they are just called "race points"
10 in a row with race points
10 because we dont know the next 2 i m gonna bet will be 12
22 out of 36 ...
Yeah well and now we have this trend of legendaries beeing lv4 its accepted... i miss qhen they putted lawson, a epic driver, level 4 and everyone went crazy and they reverse it
You know who i'm blaming 😄
I know mate, and you are right if works why change it?
Exactly. Oh well.
Btw... @opal carbon are you gonna work tomorrow?
I think it's time to ask "Are you going to be on holiday around the 21st of January?" 😄
Ye ye just wait a little
What?
Tommorow y will see
Oh boy what have you done?
Sold his soul for a bottle
No I know what it was... he saw his boost in offers
Where are all the s12 assets hiding ?
I e run about 50 duels now in s12 and have only earned a couple verstappen
They must have changed something already did 30+ sprints this week and got s12 reward like 7 or 8 times ...
I did 5 sprints after work yesterday and got Max as 1 reward. Rest were s11 or lower.
I have a legendary crate in cue so maybe something will be in there
My last legendary crate:
Thats a great legendary crate... if you were on s10...
Well sadly l am a bit higher 🙂
Tell that to hutch... they seem to not know that
Better question is what odds is to get x-hale in two sprints in a row....
99.9%
Seems close to true
Hutch wants to be sure you’re breathing
They better make shure l will not smash my phone during such amazing rewards
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Another one...
Finally
How much $$$? 😄
Free from Pit Pass
Lucky guy
Straight to Lvl 2 I wanted better but oh well I can do Contender now
I am new to this game
Lies
Hi
how to claim the event rewards
Crazy how before the new parts speed stats was the lowest but now speed is my highest 🤯
Not to mention together with its highest quali
What happened to the weekly solo events?
Not enough money from them so they have been canceled
It should come up automatically when you load into the game
It didnt thats the problem
anywhere else i can check
I'm not sure never had this problem before, either check the GP section or Messages part
You had game open at 9. Check medals and boosts to verify you got the rewards
Downloaded this game 2 days ago. Haven't stopped playing since. Currently in series 5. Finally slowed down since I'm literally losing every race. Lost all my coins too. Currently fighting the urge to spend any money on it. HELP.
Is it even possible to progress without spending any money?
Not realy, go back to one level series below grind back coins and upgrade necicery parts/drivers
Got you.
@opal carbon why did I not receive the REP points yet? I was number 13 in champion last week and I have only 5.000
Changed clubs on Sunday or Monday?
That's good well done 👍
My epic hadjar level up to level 2, now he not become deadweight anymore
Should i upgrade this yellow on my car? So 3xpensive 300k
Keep it at level 4 for now till you get Fury in later series
OKay then, so expensive god damn 300k
my setting good right for series 4?
Pretty luck early series 4 box got the x-hale
Yeah it's good
Wait till you get to Series 10 🥲
i wish get more epic hadjar fragment. I keep getting bortoletto 1
Still long way i think, i want to stay at series 4 for a while
This game is fun, i wish i can skip the ads though
Saturday
It is fun till you get someone with 50-100+ Team score and uses good boosts
if there is 6 laps, and your hard tire can stay for 3 laps, should you use 1 stop or 2 stop?
Definitely 1 stop
sometimes im not convinced, especially if they said 2-3 laps
wow my first legendary crate
I'm grabbing way too many L's in series 4/5. Need some help from the vets.
i dont see x-hale here, you still dont get it?
This one
I have it.
use that one then
Used it and still grabbed Ls
Is it confirmed that the next two Grand Prix will be paid?
When I went from level 4 to 5, the game showed me its dark side.
Hahaha
S5 driver stat is race start, most important stat this series. Use leclerc over Doohan and switch Alonso for Leclerc again as soon as you get him.
For the car, use power unit setup, and take a loss when you get Monza.
Supernova, slickshift, Motion, synergy, equinox and mach2/reactor.
when you get decent, use it in stead of supernova for the extra qualifying stat. You should try some different combinations of those as it has been a while since I have races there so could be mixing some series in my head. I am positive about the drivers though
Same, swap out Doohan. Hé raises your Teamscore but has a bad racestart, which is the shared driver stat over all tracks in S5
His problem is his car stats worse than me when im in series 4 while he is in series 5
Does not matter, don’t just look at teamscore. Teamscore only determines opponents. The goal in lower series is to have high track stats and driver stats that are important in that series, whip keeping your teamscore as low as possible
alonso is good for this ?
Thank you bro.
+6 race start
Just understand that you will go faster if you follow track stats.
Using high race start drivers in race start tracks means you go faster for the whole race, not just at the race start.
Same for other stats like defending, overtaking and tyre management.
Well well well i unlock series 5
Yes, his race start is high and the rest is meh, keeping his teamscore addition low, but doing good at race start tracks
I would suggest dropping some flags in a lower series so you don't go up in series too much
Yeah i go up too much
Hi
If i go drop now, will series 5 locked again?
no, once a series is unlocked, it's unlocked forever
ah okay then
foverer meaning for the rest of the season, in this context. as everything will reset next may.
Wow next season i lost all the upgrade?
yup. back to series 1 and back to the starter drivers and have to earn everything back all over again. all you keep is bucks, boosts, liveries, your weekly league tier, your club tier.
what the hell lol
drivers, parts, series, flags, coins all get reset
Your progress is part of racing too, race starts and ends in may 😆
So still long time?
i just play for a week
is epic doohan better than epick hadjar?
@gray salmon Thanks bro, I won three races in a row after choosing Alonso.
😂 😂 😂
Wait what i didnt know this
😭
Aw man thats crazy
Are you looking for help with Season Change for F1 Clash?
You get paid to play gran prix ?!? 👀
That’s because 25 year old guys are broke 😂
Money can change age not 🧐
Either way I’m not sliding into those DM’s
You never know where love will find you
I know it won’t find me in the F1 discord server
You tempt me to write things about 🍼 🧴 🍾 🍶 🤣 🤣
DO IT
Hopefully won't be me in 5 years then 🤣🤣
Not me but some do! 😎
@admin when can we get the RB21 skin?? I’m waiting for this, I lost the last one 🥲
👋
tracks change this week right
Next week
wednesday or something right
Hi am new to this game F1 clash I started playing from October or something and reached series 11 already so I bought series 12 Russel and Verstappen while in series 9 for 2400 bucks each so it’s waste when moving to next season ?

Rookie of the season
It was missing the @opal carbon tag to include him as a special edition of the rookies.
Waited all day for this 💩
It’s this stuff that makes me want to stop playing
I had one couple days ago and I got Epic Antonelli, I don’t mind it that much, step closer to max level 😆
I’ve probably run 50 to 60 races in s12 now and this is what I have to show for it. Sprints and all 2 unusable drivers and 0 car parts
Just getting frustrated that not much is in these crates. Even the p1 sprints and legendary.
I’ve unlocked every S12 Asset but struggling to level them up.
Do you know how hard it is to get p1 in sprints with these s11 assets. Premium boosts and treating every race like a gp to get epic Bort from the crate
I’m sure you do know it’s hard. Just venting
I’m struggling to win S12 at the moment. I don’t Boost in Duels, not worth it
I do. I’ve been playing for years. I have a lot. I could never use them all if I don’t use them in duels
I have a lot too. Probably not as many as you but I’ve been playing since the end of 2023 so just over 2 years.
I think I have 10k gladiator boosts. 3 years ago I really wanted max verstappen to be maxed out 😂
My Boost collection has risen as I started purchasing Premium Pit Pass this season.
Wish I had 10k of every Boost 😂
This is what I have
Damn. Wish I had that amount 😲 😔 I’m getting there slowly 😄
Some I can’t use because they are low and will never come back again so I have to keep them at a memento
I save as many as possible for GP and even in GP I’m strict with what Boost I use
Tsar was an awesome boost but then Russia attack Ukraine and now. Bye bye
👋
How do you expect people to continue to play when you win 1/5 races. You lose more than you win and it's obvious
Te he pit pass change this in the moment you get boost on premium slot of it
Max verstappen the 5th WDC
Lando norris got the title
@opal carbon if i can ask, when f1 moment will come? In the 2026 f1 clash season? I am asking because none of us forget it in our memory but we forget to ask his possibly release
It’s only a matter of time
Me and the whistle pig are racing tonight
Driver 1 = Childish
Driver 2 = Whistle Pig
Boost = whiskey throttle
Nice driver pairing with boost
Thank you. It’s working well so far
Definitely worth the effort
👋
Thats the boost I like 👌🔥
Anyone know what next weeks track rotations are
@steep estuary is harassing me in DMS
We should have a wall of shame here
@mossy bobcat I don't usually report, but I'm going to ensure justice is served.
You should usually report - otherwise they keep getting away with it
You should report on the offence of wassing such an important boost. That is the worst crime here
Apart from wassing your time of course
Why?
Because it’s not sportsmanlike and is done purely to delay the opponent on purpose
I agree with you.
If that person defo had pace to beat u ur basically now guaranteed 2 better positions
Why cry
Basically wasting time. If you're on a sprint or coin surge, it's almost as bad as getting a safety car - and can genuinely drop you a few places in a competitive sprint group (happened to me a few times where losing a minute or two drops me from 1st to 3rd because everyone's hitting 170 on their next race they complete)
its prolly worse than sc
Don’t we have this conversation with you quite often? It’s done to hurt the other player. It’s not sportsmanship, just shows being a kid that can’t lose
i personally dont do sprints so im fine with it
It’s stupid even outside sprints
Sprints are boring
yeah either way it should be stamped out. I've been lucky enough not to encounter it often

Sam said “soon”. Hopefully not the Blizzard kind of “soon”
Can we no longer sell items like last season?
For series 9 which is better
@opal carbon allooo?

Definitely the right one.
I think spire should be better than power lift for more quali stats
And if you want more quali, Mach II is definitely the better option
That can be upgraded to level 7
with just a few more farming
and X2 coins bonus surge
Ok
Marry christmas to you and all the hutch team except the ones that have the greedy decisions 😅🥳
You mean trade ? Yes, you can still trade with same numbers as last year - 1000 commons get converted to 600 commons or 60 rares or 6 epics
And to you. Hopefully the holidays treat you well
Well to be fair they didnt start well... real life problems
@opal carbon now that the longest saga in F1 Clash history has been resolved I need some advice for a new Christmas present for my friend 🎄🎉 … I may also have a spare bottle now
Hopefully you can start the new year on a brighter foot 🙏
On a more serious note, merry Christmas to you and all the team and thank you for your patience with all of us @opal carbon
Give him a straw... just wait 6 months to give it
@opal carbon In the New Year can you ask the team for an updated F1 Clash Road Map.
Well, you need a place to put the bottle down on. How about a Mercedes rear wheel rim table? 🤣
It has been an ongoing battle in 2025. Hopefully I have more success in 2026 🙏
As long as not a mercedes 2026 engine... i ve heard its illegal
@sharp carbon can we celebrate Christmas later please?
Only if you invite Mert
Merry christmas to you guys and the hutch team. Please give us the Non-Sponsor Task bonus race point event if can 
Trying to trick the computer, I laugh at this unbeliever who thinks he's smarter than everyone else hahahaha 🤣
it was bot 😄
Which series is this?
11
@vestal remnant @steel trench NOW YOU CANT JOKE ANYMORE
Merry Christmas 😀 how many souls did you have to sell to get Sam to send you a new one?
Merry Christmas he was trying and he was nice actually I had to him he did more that he should
IM DRIVJNG
Sam is normally nice 😀
SO WHERE IS YOUR BOTTLE ?
I didn’t take part in this 😀 was quite far off the requirements
My bottle is this 😀 not even self control, with some imagination - tyre water 😀😀😀
Guys merry Christmas!! Got one bottle whiskies with coca but Cocacola ehhh hehehe 😎
It’s better than mine 🥸
I see a pill there are you going to party hard today
Headache 😀😀😀😀
Dealing with @sharp carbon has that effect
Some of us have several of these in the morning just to keep our bodies functioning 🤣
Me too but for different reasons
@opal carbon got Brugal añejo with coke commm you and me 1 VS 1 ! 😛
That's just for today. What about all the other days in the holiday? 😏
There is so much i want to say...
🥹🥹🥹🥹
Today, alcohol is the answer, no matter what the question is. 🫡
What about a traffic stop?
No Senna for Champion 🤨
No Fittipaldi for Contender 😑
No Villeneuve for Challenger 🙂↕️
same here
At least we got felipe massa
Grand Prix races have been paid for several months now. You have to buy the necessary crates to be competitive. Otherwise, you wait for the regular ones, which is something that non-spending players do.
I go into the Contender anyway. Whatever comes, comes.
how do you get official team liveries?
premium pit pass, we still have a couple of teams left so will be coming in next few months i imagine, racing bulls and RedBull - others you've missed unless hutch re-release
In my opinion, it's not worth it. You have no chance of making the Top Ten since you'll find people who bought "special edition" drivers. You risk throwing away important boosts unnecessarily.
thx a lot mate
wait what, you got it?
Salut tout le monde , des français dans le discord ?
Non.
I actually did 😂😂😂😂
That’s A-grade trolling to deliver it to you on Xmas Eve 🤣
anyone having issues with MM ? no matches found fora long time
Me, same
Came on to ask the exact same thing but got distracted by the bottle
Unless it’s just that they’re stopping us running S1 😂
S12 nothing either
Me 3 <@&649310279968096308>
Moderator isn't the correct ping here... 😉
Just reporting to the team now
Which is?
message reached where its suposed to anyways !
This time 😆
any xmas offers / boxing day offers @opal carbon ? i am sitting on 100 pound google credit but nothing good so far
A Hutch staffer or Support
There will be a variety through the holidays
Game down?
any chance of offers with 48/35 epics on new cards / those crates during week ago or 2.... its only when i have credits hutch dont ive offers... 🙁
No matchmaking. Sam reported. A bit of patience. Drink some eggnog 😄
or go do milk runs... all shops closed tomorrow anyways !
Are those channels more responsive? Are they available in a full outage scenario?
Pinging moderator seems most intuitive option to get prompt response.
Moderators moderate this Discord only. They don't have reporting channels to the necessary technical teams
@opal carbon dont tell me its cloud issue... azure or aws... my holidays would be ruined then !!!! on support for the duration !
and i casnt dfo races if i am supporting recovery !
They should mate. Maybe put this to the suggestion 🗳️
Team's currently investigating 😉
Can we have 1x Edgecutter as compensation please?
Asking for a friend who can’t get it unlocked 😉
different role should exist for that....
503 of them would be better
403 better still
At least I got it
guis 10 minuti its normale s9
class, I included bonuses on coins, boxes, and I can't play
2 little children = allways milk in the house 😄
i was talking about canned milk....... sorry if its too much !!! couldnt resist !
wait, so jokes are done 😄
Not needed to make it
I think i’ve got an issue
is MM back up... my tab is on chanrge i would like to keep it off for fast charging not consume battery checking intermittently !
@verbal robin got the same issue for half an hour now
you joined late to party
oh my
Here our Christmas gift from hutch... no MM
It's our way of getting you to spend time with friends/family. You're welcome 😉
Looks like services are recovering.
Family time almost over!
I ve read "spend" and my heart skipped a beat
@opal carbon 45 minutes down. I was on 3 hour run money boost , will there be compensation ? Thanks
Same here just my 3 hr coin boost going to waste
Nope. Not fully at least
That's after an app restart
See? Everytime... its your falt the game went down... everytime people are in x2 coins the game goes down
Correct. They are recovering, not fully recovered. Just takes a little time
We should just remove 2x Coins. Problem solved
Yeah i think so, there must have something on the coding or whatever, cuz everytime game goes down people are on x2 coins there has to be some conection
There is never a time where people are not on 2x Coins or other Power Ups 😉
@opal carbon Knock! Knock!
Not seeing anymore matchmaking errors for the past 3 minutes now so hopefully all sorted
To be fair i m on a 3 days x2 coins so... 😅
@opal carbon still cant find opponet :/
Replace it with 50% crate reduction = everyone happy , no more complaints even if the game is down 😉
Restart the app, or your device.
Did that 3 times
Played s12 race, now not working again
You finally put up the Christmas tree?
Yeah its still not finding opponent
Also there's no error for 60sec.just keeps trying
Ok. Might have had a secondary issue. That looks to be dealt with as well. Just tested and I'm now getting matches
Will there be compensation?
We'll make sure the issue is fully resolved first then look to see the impact and duration to see if compensation is needed
Thank you
You hush your dirty mouth sir!! I need my 2x coin boost 😃
hi guys
Me tto
me too
merry christmas
Guys, someone know Qualification tracks?
For the GP?
You can press the button in the GP to show you a list of all tracks for Q/OR and FR
Happy Christmas everybody. And thanks @opal carbon for providing the oppertunity for the hardcore gamersz to have some time with loved ones
Merry Christmas all 🎅 🎄 🎁
Thanks @opal carbon and the Hutch team for all the support this year and for doing their best to provide us with this great game 🙏 🫡
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@opal carbon just wondering if Arvin linblad is coming
I wouldn’t expect him before May
Hi
Namens Dutch DRS wensen wij iedereen fijne kerstdagen en een gelukkig nieuwjaar toe!! That we may have many more racing hours together 🧡
Merry Christmas!
Pirates don’t celebrate Christmas
i'm getting bored if anyone is free please dm me 24 or 24+ dm not the lower ones
In my country, you are adult from 18, in countries like Murica, you need 21 to drink alcohol, but why are bots looking for DMs from 24/25+ ?
maybe they want to be able to rent cars after they steal people's CC numbers.
I mean, is from some countries good to be 25+ ? 😄 i am not that aducated, maybe I ask chatGPT 😄
whats the next track rotation?
In 6 days 10 hours and 26 minutes
So you need him at leve-
My dream
Now you need 300 assets 😁
Next week mate
👋
Where's my ?
😄
I must have been a bad boy because Santa Hutch didn’t give me my Senna 🫣🫠
Am Here To Make Some New Friends And
A Game Partner
DM OPEN
25+
Get alife you might yes might get some friends
You want to be my friend Hamster ? 😅
You know I will😘 🤣
Awesome gifts from hutch 🤡

Merry Christmas!!!
Merry christmas
Merry christmas!!
🎄 Merry Christmas
Merry christmas
Welcome to the group.
Thanks,so,just downloaded f1 clash days ago,and,I'm doing well,won my first 4 races
Merry Christmas you bunch of Legends 🎅
Wish you the same.
Ai slop
Merry Christmas 🎅
I guess Christmas is not an excuse to stop grinding because I'm still seeing regulars in a particular series 😆
Merry Christmas everyone 🎄
Merry Christmas all 🎅 🎁 🎄
I’ll be doing the same today 😉 😜
Too late now. I think the presents are already under the tree 😆
Hope you enjoy the day and have fun!
Thanks you too!
When do the collection milestones reset?
You are telling me 😀
Gasly will get apples and coal 😃
Takes one to know one 😉
Merry Christma 🎄🎄🎄
Merry xmass
Instead of getting gifts, we get offers to buy
This game is so pay2win it's not even funny, even the daily spin is rigged.
Only with the pit pass you can also win
Yup, again pay 2 win
Not only that: more money is needed in addition to the pit pass
If you want to win every week you need money clearly if you want to make 4-5 good results in the season it is not necessary
For the rest, I'm against legendary pilot events that are impossible to get without buying
Anyone know when the game reset is for next season?
Miami GP
So we’re seriously not getting any gift for Christmas from hutch?
The gift is the offer for you to buy
@opal carbon were we naughty this year?
I think its racepoints for the remainder of the season
If you click on this offer & enter your credit card details you get it for free as a Christmas gift 🎄🎁🤣
Where is our Christmas gift hutch
<@&649310279968096308>
<@&649310279968096308>
the power... It is all within me
Copycat
X2 🤣
moderators reaction time of a sloth
Scamming at Christmas lovely 😫
Man’s gotta eat😂😂
He has a bad race start 😖
Last year we got 7 day crate timer
And relax 😂
We have this year but you have to pay 💰 😬
With the crates I’ve saved up I was counting on it
It looks like it's not going to happen. I'll use my 3 day cate timer from milestone
They said they already had us a gift
All you need to do is input your credit card details after clicking on it
It’s that time of the year again!!😂😂
How many offers do we have rn
I think we got 7 day crate timer this year for Halloween?
Some time in past I don't remember when
It was 7 day double coin
Just unlocked S12 🎅
Help?🙂
Customize your aero and drivers.
HOW DOES OME GET 6.7 BILLION
Ninja how
And this is not that much 😀
I have 230,000
BANZAIIIIIII
I would assume you aren't in higher series

strollose
🇵 🇪 🇳 🇮 🇸 
Look more like Tsunona and not Mazepin
The amount of offers is good, the problem is it requires u to spend all ur money and upwards to like $200+ even if not more at least for my currency
It’s that point of the game whet you don’t spend that much coins after a while in s12 coins isn’t a problem anymore
And even with the amount I have I’m considered poor in the game now
Lot of s12 sprints, I personally prefer to grind s1
I grind s1 actually 😂😂
These offers are for p2w mate
It’s only good for p2w
For F2P it’s a kick in the nuts
👋
Im close to 9k wins
When you play S12 with double coins, it is going really fast
Yhup 72M per race win
Stupid 🤣🤣🤣💰🤌🤣🤣🤣🙈‼️❌🚫
Why grind S1?
Just curious
Faster races that require no effort
But only giving parts you don’t need. Collecting for trading?
Merry Christmas everyone
You normally don’t get the actual crates
Im looking at the offers and it feels strange, the odds sum up to more than 100% in epic rarity
<@&649310279968096308> my bad to ruin your christmas
Then for the winrate only?
Yesh keep mentioning it and then it will get removed also and then we will be whining here that it’s even worse for everyone 😀😀😀
Well then shoot me in the Christmas tree, why the heck would you grind s1?
👋
It’s worked, I’m in Serie 6 now and there’s another big problem. My cars and drivers usually perform well in China and Abu Dhabi, but very poorly in Belgium. I don't know why, but my car isn't as fast as AI on Kemmel Straight with DRS on, and I get overtaken by AI on the outside at Pouhon Corner. In short, it's bad everywhere, and I don't know why.
These events need to stop. There’s 5 months left of the season and so far for the last 3 major events we’ve needed expensive paid drivers to have a crack at the podium. None of which me or many others have. Some people are just beginning their season and can’t do any GPs at all at the moment. Race point tasks at least need to stop. Very very unfair for 0.1% drop rates to make it race points.
now that even challenger can’t enter this is getting beyond ridiculous
Yep
You're right
Sup everyone & Merry Christmas to all.
I’ll agree with you on that.
Crazy stats
Top offer: bru
Senna offer: BRUUU
Remember that LOL
Indeed.
The Grand Prix in which you have to pay to get on the podium will be the next 3. The initiative of some teams who have asked their players not to buy anything for the next few weeks is commendable
They're not stupid! There are people in the world who waste money like this, and Hutch is right to take it. But he should at least allow everyone to play in the Grand Prix...
352 speed. What is this, formula 0?!?
Is this a visual glitch or did I actually get 6 hours
I bought 3 hrs from objective and 30m from spinner but it says 6hrs
Visual
If you restart the game it goes down to 3
some say that you can keep it as long as the game is on your screen though
But 6 hours without closing it is hard 😀
Aw ok
+1 respect for any mate play 6hours :)))
I’ve done it a few times. Can’t keep on doing it though, it’s not for me
Formula Zero indeed. Every 5 years they should make every living F1 Champion fight in a short season using cars with zero regulation.
Let's hope it goes better than the last similar "protest"
It works best when people do it without bellowing 🤣 🤣
Excited to see not extra points when schumi event
Judging by certain statistics it seems that some accounts play much more than 6 hours a day, every day
On that topic I’m looking forward to meeting Santa 😀 I think it will be as likely
Maybe but who knows lets see... there is no shot people will have schumi lv4 by luck
#🏎│real-f1-clas
5 days of pay mas continues today 😂😂
What a joke
i always got norris lvl 6 and 8 when grind lvl 1, can u give me tips? how to get easier opponenxt
😂 the s1 hutch bot every single time
No it’s not 🤣
Why’s bro got someone’s ip address for a username 😂
Bad luck for you🤣
No, it’s not 🤣
I’m driving with two parts mostly this I just wanted to try and first one was 🤦♂️
This isn’t an Ip address
We have different times in S1 😀 hate when same level of Norris with - 20 in speed is running from me while on same tyres 🤣
Not easy for me to find hutch bot, but this guy have nice setup 🤣
It’s a joke man 😭
Well played !
What is the definition of a bot that is found in low series and has a very low TS? For example, I have 1640, or a 360 bot?
why i always got norris lvl 6 and 8, always same like my TS
A hutch series bot
Each series has a specific TS bit that can be either used against you - showing you are way too low for that series, or if you are too high and Noone is around your TS - you get the low bot
What have I done to deserve such a group?
Did you enter today or yesterday?
You usually can’t judge by Q groups, as they are either fully random (on Wednesday) or 2/3 results based or random. Only OR and FR are a reliable indicator
IPv4 adresses have 4 bytes, each byte have 8 bits (8² =256 different combinations) ranging from 0 to 255
Ouch 😀 I don’t know, normally you shouldn’t be that high up the groups. Unless many are skipping which is unlikely
I don't understand their logic either, and Azza rides with me.
Dunno what is he doing cause even if he skips crates, that setup doesn't win a race in s12
Delete please
I’m waiting for a non-race point bonus GP. But it seems like I will not be racing until February
Or May for that matter 😅
It seems to me that many top players are deliberately missing events.
@steel trench did you see someone with lv4 Antonelli ?
I’m not one and I’m skipping majority of them also as I can’t compete without these drivers
Actually didn’t check in details. We should see top groups to check. Maybe @vestal remnant can help?
Nothing
He was with me too.
I found that if you join on Wednesday and "throw" Q1 and Q2 you'd get into a Q3 group with players that did the same. And because competitive players do that for testing or for weekly objectives, you get the whole bunch of them in a group.
Then how the hell are you in that group ? Your medals wouldn’t suggest that
Even a bad results are good to progress, you can get like 50 copies of Verstappen, that usually takes weeks grinding
I don’t know
So far i didnt but i woudnt be surprised if someone has it
I know. Been stuck at 80/100 on max for more than a month now. But I don’t want to cave in and improve participation levels in these events. At least now, unless I’m super bored. I’m against this full p2w direction even if I understand why it’s happening and I know that it can’t be stopped without player behavior change
Hey yall
Why do u think u have more chances in a normal GP?
These sponsored assets arent pay to win this time
At least I will have some chances and won’t lose by default 😀
I think skill and understanding of the game should have an influence, but endless donations ultimately ruined everything.
Actually it was proven it was a normal GP cause no one had Antonelli
There was a very small top group, none had Antonelli. Similar to the group below where I was along with MK and Azza, none had Antonelli in FR.
Please tell me your nickname in the game.
Same as here mate, I was in the same group as you I think based on your screenshots
So why on earth did I end up with you?
