Jett - Air Force (Abad 2)

[fervent sonnet]

Jett replaces Abad, and it's air force support (HP) hero.

I'll test how he compares with Abad, plus test if it's viable to replace indestructible heroes with two support heroes.

Hero of May is coming, Commanders! Let's welcome Jett!🥳

💠 Available time: May 15 on 0:00 (reset time)

☁️ Skyrift Shadow

🔸 Preparation Skill
In the first round of battle, your Air Force units receive 78.0% HP Boost, which lasts for the entire battle.
🔸 Active Skill
After every regular attack from your Air Force units, there is a chance to trigger a skill attack that deals 50.0% damage to all enemy units. If the target is affected by Ignition, there's a chance to apply 1 stack of Ignition (30%) to 1 random enemy unit adjacent to the target.

🔸 Passive Skill
At the end of each round, enhances the Ignition effect based on the number of Ignition stacks resolved this round. Every 5 resolved Ignition stacks increase all Ignition damage by 5% (up to +15%). Lasts for the entire battle. (Ignition stacks detonated by skills do not count).

🔹 Skill Bonus Description
HP Boost: Increases by 0.04% for every 100 War.

☁️ Jett Exclusive Skill
Increase Jett's skill effect by 10% (without improving the triggering chance of the active skill or the effect and chance of applying Ignition, and the passive effect）.

🔸Lv.3 When this hero participates in battle, the Attack of all units increases by 30%

🔸Lv.5 At the start of each round, applies Ignition (50%) to 3 enemy units. Passive changed: Every 5 resolved Ignition stacks increase all Ignition effects by 20% (up to +60%).

🔸Lv.7 When this hero is deployed, all Ignition effects are enhanced by 40%. This hero's active skill damage is increased by 70% to the target affected by Ignition.

As Jett has active skill, let's see his activation rate, and let's compare it with Abad and Maximo (in Maximo case, it's activation rate just for the middle row):

So, we see that activation rate is almost the same as Abad's, about 35%. Maximo, as expected, has activation rate of about 75%

No, let's compare Jett and Abad in same march (Tigress and Vivian), with long fights. This results may give wrong impression.

I'll use this stats to maximise number of rounds:

At es3:

[fervent sonnet]

Jett seems to have noticeable advantage over Abad.

ES5:

It does look like Jett has very big advantage over Abad, but this has to be tested with regular stats.

ES7:

Jett seems far superior to Abad. Really a lot superior. Further testing will be done with regular stats.

For further testing, I'll use these stats:

ES3:

This looks the same.

ES5:

This is also very same.

ES7:

These are also very similar, and it needs more battle reports to be sure.

After testing (thanks @true plaza ) 10 + 10 battles against Abad at es5, these are results:

These are results of units that survived:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928828124530094100/1372293521435918407/image.png?ex=6826e82f&is=682596af&hm=7382a6148c8d30a52189717fc009a7002cb2228f84ed6025c232bf0d1a418fe8&

We can say, Jett is better than Abad, but if you already have Abad, there's no reason to replace Abad with Jett.

Now, let's see if Abad and Jett can work together. Will Jett, Abad and Tigress be better setup than Jett, Vivian and Tigress?

Long battle results, with es5 (I'll test it only with es5):

So, with long battles, this obviously works great. How about with regular stats?

With short battles, it needs more testing, but for now, it doesn't seem like big difference.

[fading loom]

Is Vivian much better than Storm now?

[fervent sonnet]

Vivian works better with Jett and Abad. Storm works better with Barbie/Kai/Carna.

[fading loom]

Oh, then I have to change storm and abad

[carmine sluice]

Did tw dev made changes to the combination. I did another test a few hrs earlier . And result seems different

[fervent sonnet]

You need to do more than one battle to make any conclusions with regular stats. That's why I use 20 attempts, 10 on ATK and 10 on DEF.

[carmine sluice]

Will wait for further verification

[fervent sonnet]

I'll test this combo tomorrow, as I have run out of attempts today.

[carmine sluice]

Regardless, it looks like tigress/brady is still a must in the setup right? Not storm shadow

[fervent sonnet]

These are completely different heroes. Tigress and Brady are ATK buff, Storm is indestructible. It's apples and cars. 😄

[carmine sluice]

I got an es7 abad, es7 storm and es5 brady...looking at the test outcome to determine if jett can combine with abad and has bigger impact than storm.

[fervent sonnet]

Yeah, I too want to test it. But, it has to wait for more attempts in hero trial.

[fervent sonnet]

Results from testin JAT (Jett, Abad, Tigress) vs JIT (Jett, Vivian (I is for indestructible), Tigress). Higher numbers are better, positive numbers mean that JAT side won, negative mean that JIT side won. Stats are equal, posted above:

So, JAT is better than JIT.

[fervent sonnet]

Testing Jett vs Maximo. I have made Jett 5 ⭐ , and it's placed in placed instead Maximo. Maximo was es3. Jett at first is without es. Lower numbers are better:

So, Maximo in combination with Kum and Striker is better than Jett. This is one of the better results too:

[fervent sonnet]

I think I just realised what might be the reason, I was using encirclement. I'll have to test without encirclement and see if results will be different.

New heroes don't work well with encirclement.

[fervent sonnet]

More testing of Jett vs Abad, at es5, after Friday update.

There's almost no difference. Those that have Abad at es5, there's really no reason to change to Jett:

At the moment, only Jett and Abad together instead indestructible hero might make sense, but I'll repeat testing tomorrow.

More testing of Jett vs Maximo. Jett is used with Kum and Striker. J0 enc means Jett is without es, with encirclement. J0 means no encirclement. Maximo had es3. Perks and TG is transferred to Jett:

So, Maximo is still stronger in this combination.

[fervent sonnet]

First results of testing Jett es3 vs es5. I can say, they are pretty shocking.

The lower numbers are better (negative values mean that Jett won):

There's almost no difference between es3 and es5!!!

[carmine sluice]

Final recommendation?

[fervent sonnet]

Depends what you have, what you want, etc. It's hard to say. At the moment, I'm waiting for the more testing of es3 vs es5, if the difference is the same, I recommend es3.

I decided to do more testing of Jett, Abad and Tigress, this time against Abad, Vivian and Tigress. Last time, it was done against Jett, let's see the results of "classic" Abad version:

So, Jett, Abad and Tigress are really winning combination.

[carmine sluice]

I am building a second AF at es5
Currently upgraded at es5

• Asuka
• Duke
• Lin
• Brady
• Striker

Not upgraded but available
Jett
Vivian

Any recommendation

[fervent sonnet]

Well, at the moment I would make Jett 5 star, and wait for Tigress 2, then you can go with Vivian, to have standard and okay setup.

If further testing confirm so small difference between es3 and es5, I really don't see a reason for making Jett es5.

My plan, at the moment, is to wait for Tigress 2, return perks to Maximo (as Maximo is stronger than Jett at the moment), and then compare Maximo, Kum and Striker, with Jett, Abad and Tigress 2.

[carmine sluice]

My main current at abad7/ss7/brady5...so thinking when tigress replacement arrive, I can take out brady5

[carmine sluice]

This is really surprising for Max huh

[fervent sonnet]

Well, then you can consider to remove Storm Shadow, and put Jett in his place. It would be stronger.

[carmine sluice]

You meant Jett es7?

[fervent sonnet]

Yes, imagine how I feel to spend 590 gold shards and found out that Maximo is still much stronger.

[fervent sonnet]

If you can afford, even better

[carmine sluice]

I need to test abad7-jett5-brady5 vs abad7-ss7-brady5

[fervent sonnet]

Use hero trial, and do it there, like I do.

[carmine sluice]

I can't adjust the es right?

[fervent sonnet]

It will help you get feeling if at es7 this combo is better.

[fervent sonnet]

No, there all are at same es level

[carmine sluice]

Here ur saying jett es5 paired with abad7 is better than ss7...that's really interesting

[fervent sonnet]

I tested it with es5. I suggest that you do testing at es7, and see what results will tell you. I certainly would do that testing, after I have seen results for es5. But, I didn't test it, and I don't know for sure. And, I'm sure that you're more interested in it than I am. 😄

[carmine sluice]

Indeed...thank you for the advise

[cold dome]

I started on my Air Force a little late. I had storm shadow5 and tigress 5 already but was holding out on the third ignition hero until Jett arrived because I didn’t want to spend on Abad only for him to be replaced a month later. Don’t have a ton of resources to throw around, but I got Jett5 when he came out.

From what I’m reading here, sounds like I should’ve saved my es for something else. I’ve had great results with that lineup so far outside the lab but feeling like I should’ve waiting on es

Also, is SS, tigress, Abad better than SS, tigress, Jett?

In my testing with these lineups the past few days (I also switch off and def side) I had few Abad wins compared to Jett. Thoughts?

[fervent sonnet]

In my testing, there's no much difference between Abad and Jett. And, I think that I will spend skill shards on Abad (he benefits from es5), and keep Jett es3, and then use the two like that.

But, it's still early to say. For now, I will continue to use Maximo, he is stronger in my setup than Jett. Jett will have to wait Tigress 2, when I'll reevaluate situation.

[cold dome]

Makes sense. What’s done is done. I guess I was just wondering who the best third hero would be to pair with storm and tigress, between Abad and Jett. Would be a while before Abad es5 if I wanted to swap out Storm

[fervent sonnet]

So, just use Jett. They are the same.

[cold dome]

Okay thanks

[fervent sonnet]

I did more testing, now JAT (Jett, Abad, Tigress), currently the best air combo, vs the best universal combo (Asuka, Po, Striker), at es5:

[cold dome]

Sorry one more follow up question based on something can’t really test. What might you suggest:

1. Abad es0, Tigress es5, Jett es5
2. Storm es5, Tigress es5, Jett es5

I think Abad has to have that es5 to be on par because of refreshing the ignite stacks, but wanted your expert take

[fervent sonnet]

Yes, Abad benefits from es5, but I don't know if Abad without es would be better than Storm. I didn't test that.

If Abad is 5 star, you can test it. If not, you also can try to test it, by removing some of units on Storm's side. You would get maybe not perfect comparison, but good enough. Just find a friend and use Arena for testing. Friend should be a bit stronger, and, well, just attack him and see which combo gives better results (place it in spreadsheet, and apply average on results).

[cold dome]

Don’t have Abad 5 star and don’t want to spend on him without feeling good about replacing storm es5. Will hold off. I have time. Thanks for doing all that reporting 🙂

[fervent sonnet]

Testing something that interests myself before anyone else, JKS (Jett, Kum, Striker) vs universal heroes Asuka, Po and Striker:

Comparing JKS with JAT, it looks that JAT is two times stronger. Tomorrow, I'll compare them directly, to see how it looks like.

[fervent sonnet]

More testing of es3 vs es5. Lower numbers are better.

And, in this batch of BRs, there's almost no difference between es3 and es5:

[fading loom]

Is better using es3 or without?

[fervent sonnet]

Es3 is a bit better, and it's certainly not as expensive as es5, which doesn't help much in Jett's case

[sterile estuary]

Yes and No. She will hit harder, but if you use Storm his Ignitions are bigger. If you have Flammables he will out weight her. This thread has HORRIBLE misinformation all over it…

[sterile estuary]

If any of this was right no exclusive over ES3 and use Crit, Crit dam, HP, Atk, hit, or dodge skills…

[sterile estuary]

This is insanely wrong…

[fervent sonnet]

Did you test es3 vs es5? I'm interested in your results

[sterile estuary]

No because if ran properly, it’s a total waste of time… ES5 gives ignitions, stacks his passive bonus quicker, and makes its cap stronger…it’s literally a no brainer. ES3 gives basically nothing…

[fervent sonnet]

I think that price is okay, and according to testing, es3 is significant enough to be purchased. But, of course, I leave that to anyone to decide

[sterile estuary]

Why ES3 for 10% on his active skill when you will probably get more damage from adding a Crit skill and effecting the damage of all heroes and regular attacks? I mean I don’t agree with your assessment of ES5 being better because you’re not using him right and can get way more damage with the right setup, but even using ES3 doesn’t make sense.

[frozen hearth]

What's the composition of the test with Jitt?
I have Asuka. Does it make sense to wait until the Tiger replacement arrives?

[fervent sonnet]

What other heroes you have?

[frozen hearth]

Asuka, brady, striker

[fervent sonnet]

You can benefit from taking Jett, and you don't have to making him es5

[cobalt wren]

I have Vivian 5*, Maximo 5* and Abad/Jett 4*, our server just entered the new world so don't have titan gear etc. Just reached lvl 85. I have the white trooper with scramsax chips. I also haven't reached 3HM yet. I have enough orange shards to take Abad or Jett to 5* but from my own testing Abad seems to perform better for me. This might be due to lacking ignite extra effects or being a small/newer account? Any advice what route to take?

[fervent sonnet]

I'd wait for tigress 2, you miss ATK buff hero, and wait till you get 3hm.

[tired tree]

@fervent sonnet what's the exact setup you used?

In hero trial

[tired tree]

I only saw these screenshots but no formation, runes or HT

[fervent sonnet]

Yes, I didn't used formation, runes or HT.

Reasoning is simple. I want to test heroes, and nothing else. To control testing environment, it's always best to have the least number of changing variables, in this case it means, only heroes should be changed. Everything else, even if it can impact how heroes work to great degree are things that might not be available to everyone.

Thus, I test with as plain as possible testing environment.

People who want to test their own setups (formations, TG, HTs), they can test it with their own 20 attempts per day. They also know much better than I do what they have, what TG, what formations, what HT and chips they have.

Plus, just to add, after I tested formations, I was thinking about testing HTs and chipsets. Well, I dropped the idea, as I have only 20 attempts per day, which I need to use before anything else for testing current hero (hero trial is available only for limited amount of time).

My testing of formations took two cycles, and it started when we got hero trial without new hero, so I started testing then.

I suggest that everyone who wants to know how their own setup would work against some different setup of their own, they should test it. I will test heroes, and heroes only. Everything else is not given to all people (ie not all have the same formations, all TG, runes, HTs, etc).

I think that everyone who is familiar with scientific testing understand why it's the best way of testing. After all, we want to know how heroes work, not how different formations, HTs, TG or chipsets work. Okay, true, we want to know how everything works, but to test it with extremely limited 20 attempts per day, it's not possible. 😦

[tired tree]

Get more accounts

Or friends to help

[tired tree]

I'm not talking about buying accounts...

[cobalt wren]

Im now 3hm running Viv, Abad, Max. Got enough shards to make Jett or Abad 5*. Doing Jett would leave me with more orange shards left. I wonder who I should go for and what ES to aim for. (yea im saving for tigress replacement but that still a ways off)

[fervent sonnet]

At the moment, this march as it is doesn't work. As you said, you miss ATK buff (Tigress 2 probably will be that).

I'd make Jett 5 star, you would save some gold shards, plus, Jett doesn't work with es5 (ie he's roughly as strong as Abad es5 with his es0-es5).

Your Vivian, is she es5?

[cobalt wren]

No I only have es3 atm and saving up enough for es5 would you recommend doing vivs first then?

[fervent sonnet]

No, I would recommend that you skip her, use Abad (es5 is what I have tested), and then add Tigress (2) in the mix.

Indestructible heroes without es5 on lvl 100 account are not much. Strong as wet paper. 😄

[cobalt wren]

So skip Viv ES5, 5 star Jett ES3 and use until I can ES5 Abad then 5 star him, switch to him and add Tigress(2) when they arrive?

[fervent sonnet]

That would be a plan, yes

But, you will use Jett and Abad at the same time with Tigress 2

[cobalt wren]

ok, thank you so much for answering 🙂

[bitter ledge]

so asking for a "friend"😂 currently no airforce but need a secondary. I have enough es shards for one LVL 5. what is the best place to start for what "theyre" working with. holding tigress w/es0, Maximo w/es3, Stryker/Duke/asuka w/es 0. current march is tigress, gypsy w/es5, Stryker

getting a LVL 5 es does take longer than wanted so what's the best pairing for now and the. add potentially tigress 2.0 w/es 5?

[fervent sonnet]

Take Jett, make him es3. If you can, I recommend that you also take Abad, and make him es5. Strongest air at the moment is Tigress, Abad and Jett. Jett doesn't benefit much from es5, as shown above.

[tired tree]

Take Jett stay exclusive 0 and use ATK skill
@bitter ledge

[bitter ledge]

thanks!

[tired tree]

Or crit skill if high enough

[bitter ledge]

I have Crit 7. I'm waiting until hiccup is released to see who he replaces. I'm assuming he will be tigress 2.0

[tired tree]

Yep

[bitter ledge]

k sooo, I have jet es 0, hiccup es 5 and gypsy es 5. who should I get next to replace gypsy. I only have enough es shards for one ES LVL 5

was thinking Vivian but she's likely out next. then I thought abad because of t-me video. any suggestions?

just saw the write up how abads been nerfed with hiccup

I was wondering if tigress would pair well with hiccup and jet. I know it's random but seems right to me

I just did testing- tigress, hiccup and Jett vs hiccup, abad and Jett. T,H,J won 14-6 total. 10 offensive and 10 defensive

I'll have to test more tomorrow for Vivian's meta vs T,H,J

[fervent sonnet]

Vivian is 8 months old, but in this combination (Hiccup and Jett) is almost the same as Storm Shadow who is much older.

I wouldn't worry too much about Vivian replacement, it's probably 6, or more months away. And, when it comes, it won't be earth shattering. 😄

[cold dome]

I saw marginal differences with storm, hiccup, Jett vs tigress, hiccup, Jett

[bitter ledge]

I'll have to test it but for some reason I'm really thinking tigress, hiccup and Jett should do well

I'll test vs V,H,J

[fervent sonnet]

It's a good combination, already tested, check #1394045827995144302 guide

[cobalt wren]

So even if I have Abad es5 I should switch him with Viv and run Viv, Hiccup, Jett instead? And should I es5 them all or just hiccup?

[fervent sonnet]

It's up to you.

Hiccup, Jett Abad is also pretty strong. It's not the best, but still very viable option.

[bitter ledge]

I tried hiccup jet and abad, it worked at first but the fixed the glitch. it's not a bad march but not nearly as useful anymore since you want their effects to get hit by themselves and abad pops them all

I switched to Viv/hiccup/jet and it's performance is far better

some say storm shadow works better than Vivian but I haven't tested that

[fervent sonnet]

Vivian is slightly better

[fervent sonnet]

Now that we have Hiccup as best air force combination with Jett, I wanted to revisit Jett's big dilema:

Is es5 worthy investment over es3 in Jett's case. Above you can see that my testing results didn't show improvements big enough to warrant investing 1800 skill shards into es5 over es3, but I did see improvements in results to warrant investing 200 skill shards in es3 (we get one free skill, so we need 8 skills).

And, now that we have here Hiccup as the best combination for Jett (at the current moment in time), let's see the results:

As you see, it is small sample right now, and it will be tested more, but even if it is small sample, results show that es3 is even better than es5. 😄

This is not correct, of course, it's due to small sample of real (Arena) battles, but it also shows that it's not that big difference, at least not with these stats.

I'll show stats now, so you can have feeling where it is in stats spectrum. My stats:

Attackers stats:

Stat difference is big, but we work with what we have. Thus, I use army units lvl 100 without HT.

Here are BR. First es5:

And now BR with es3:

Now you have all 9 BR, so you can check activations, damage, damage ratios, etc, to analyse it to more depths if you want.

I still don't see Jett's es5 worth 1800 skill shards, but I will certainly continue to test it

[fervent sonnet]

Further testing of es3 vs es5. This time I didn't used shark formation and here are results:

I'm right between strength of es3 and es5. We do know for sure that es5 is stronger than es3 (at least for 21% bonus over 10%). Is this it, or is it some mechanic from es5 on work here?

Few BR, es5:

es3:

[fervent sonnet]

More tests are done, this time I again use shark formation:

Difference of 16% on average, with some strange battle outcomes (es3 won with higher difference for example).

[fervent sonnet]

More testing. Here I use lvl 101 units (instead lvl 100) and shark formation

Well, there's a bit of fluke where es3 wins over army, so, without that fluke:

13% better. I really don't see Jett es5 mechanic being activated. I have seen it activated in long battle reports, and it's strong. Here, in relatively short battles, not enough time to be activated, it seems like that

[rose stone]

I have a question. I currently have Brady 7ES, Abad 5ES, and Vivian 5ES. Should I continue with them or get Hiccup 5ES?

[fervent sonnet]

Didn't test it, but hiccup is really strong, so I'd guess, go ahead

[fervent sonnet]

Tests with me using HT, so I'm stronger, thus difference between es3 and es5 is less pronounced:

[fervent moth]

@fervent sonnet i have tigres, abad, Vivian es5. Should I go with Hiccup abad Vivian, or hiccup Vivian es5, jett es3 ? March size is 250

[fervent sonnet]

If you want to go with Hiccup, then Jett is the hero you should use. Abad "blocks" Hiccup.

Jett es3 vs es5, well, es5 is slightly better, as you do get 21% bonus instead 10% bonus, but not the additional mechanic of boosting burn damage, or, better said, that mechanic does happen, but extremely rarely.

[fervent moth]

So, hiccup es5, viv es5 jett es3 it is. Thanks 🙏

I am guessing Jett burn dmg might happen more frequently if the battle goes on for multiple rounds as it does now a days

[fervent sonnet]

Yes, if it goes in extremely high number of rounds, es5 would make sense. Check number of rounds, even if I'm not sure what that number would be, but with 15-20 rounds it sure should be a thing.

[distant pendant]

Of you have ES 3 don’t equip it, put crit rate or something instead

Hiccup has an amazing ES5 so yes to Hiccup mosdef

[fervent sonnet]

What level of Crit rate (or something else) would be better than es3 for Jett?

And, has that been tested?

[distant pendant]

The higher the better of course but all ES 3 does on every hero is +30% attack which you can get from a level 4 AF Attack skill

[fervent sonnet]

That's not true.

ES3 gives 10% boost to all things that can be affected by 10% boost. It does depend on heroes, of course, and 10% on HP is not much (in Jett's case), but it also affects damage, etc (as I said, it depends on hero).

It can be significant.

[fervent sonnet]

30% ATK or HP is mostly insignificant, but 10% boost on everything (as it's not +, but * 10%) can be very significant.

[fervent sonnet]

Nah, I'm talking about this 10% boost:

[distant pendant]

Ok I dismantle one and you are right

[fervent sonnet]

So, it does affect HP and DMG (active part)

[distant pendant]

Ok I have never tested level 3s @fervent moth so defer to Alan’s good advice

What I do know is that this is the best march in the game so worth investing in

But Jett’s ES 5 would be nice eventually

Rumors of AF Indestructible hero coming soon so don’t invest more in Storm or Vivian than you have

[fervent moth]

Ok

[fervent moth]

Not a lot of difference after switching 🤣

[fervent sonnet]

You switched from what to what exactly?

[fervent moth]

@fervent sonnet i switched from tigress abad viv to hicc jett viv

[fervent sonnet]

I think you should see the difference

It might not be double, but at least 10-15% better

[atomic osprey]

Could someone guide me please? What are the optimal runes on Jett / Hiccup / SS? I have pretty good damage stats

[fervent sonnet]

With high stats, burning ones on all of them, Hiccup should go with Flammable only, and stats runes in slots that are left

[atomic osprey]

Thank you!!

If I don’t have enough Flammmable, who to prioritise?

[fervent sonnet]

Hiccup would benefit more than Jett, if you ask which would gain more benefits between Jett and Hiccup from flammable