Who is the strongest in my Pokémon Collection?
#📱│game-discussion
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Morale dmg+ I did first.
Then dmg-
warrior
Crazy 😂
Me

No
Yes
Its either AMTK, Tamim or Vand3r i think
Nuh uh
👀 Then who?
No☺️
🤣
As long as I have Irish
Thats the one thats gonna go
Let me go log into her account
Brb
@wary harness accept my friend request 🥺
I should be
But ive got my coffee right next to em
Me


The new feature of being able to dm other players from another server has made recruiting so much easier.
S•1226
Firstly please don't ping the river game account.
Secondly you are using sara (army) not the new hero 😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait when this get added I dont see it
Yesterday
Just search another server and click a base and dm them

This is exactly why they’ll probably add something to prevent harassment from recruiters 😂
That’s what a block button is for right
Waiting someone gonna use their 999 mini accounts to chat everyone to recruit and flood everything with macros
DMs are not moderated yet you still may got caught by the system if you spammed too quickly
Good luck with that😂
are you dronex of 1221
Eh
There is one dronex I'm aware of
I’ll take that as a yes
The one and only 
japanese with their bots
Japanese won't do that effort
They did some better macros 
ohh yea instead of recruitment they just make more bots
Yuppers
I can't finish it tonight

still need HT and Titan sections
and I'm wayyyy tooo tired now
HT section is quite tricky
as Rybe said Alvida can be well fit to every HT
but not everyone main 3 unit types
I think I saw a message from WD if you know him, also used to be from 1226
so im thinking how to put every details in with just 1-2 description line of texts
and just couple graphics only
I’m not from 1226…I jumped here when they only had 3 peeps left. I took cap and decided to start growing my own server. Have about 28 actives now and more coming. Speaking which you’re the neighbor that don’t answer dm’s
long time no making guide haha
i forgot how to do stuffs efficiently
hey I understand the feeling of growing an dead + inactive server
our server only have 3-4 people during SVS and TC
well we have ~30 members playing daily , telling them to send 3 marches in Domain Monster event is also something challenging for me everyday haha

Yeah, I just noticed the council chat and it was way too late before a proper reply. Apologize for that, I had a weird bug in the past that new council chat sometimes being put the most bottom of the chat list which is annoying for that time era so yeah, my bad. I don't check chats often indeed 😕
All good my guy
Very satisfying seeing the growth process
try to copy + paste your reminder to everyone's DM
it might help than Alliance Mail
Combat Order - I only save for super important occasion
I go from needing my own alt to do dailies to not even having to get on alt much anymore
i have alts too , I spend 1 hour/day to take care all of them
alt is an important factor to grow dead server !
Yeah I just sometimes kick peeps from alliance and dm them again…that usually get their attention
you're cruel !!!
i don't dare to do that
It helps but they understand
I kicked a player once and they created their own alliance
Double edge sword

Did you kick my accs yet 👀
I have a member vip 13 but 12m CP
i tried so hard to communicate but they never reply T.T
of course not !!!!
That’s what makes recruiting so tedious…you’ll messages someone 100 times and they won’t ever message til the day they say…”I’m. Ready to transfer”

i need high number of members to scare my SVS opponent
I also have some members deactivate their DM funciton...
imagine they donate 99/100 droid shard
and you really don't want to kick them out just because they help so much with shard
🥹 
We kicked a person like that out for over donation on popstar
Now they quit

and that's just sad right ?
Kick him please

🙂
I have mini accounts
Won't spam people tho except @ornate compass
Nooo! 🥺
Then you better behave 🤓

Yes ma'am 🫡
The accs are lvl80 anyway nub
Someone over donate. We summon n open another droid.
It's no loss in over donation..n its not end of the world. You can open more droids
Here is @leaden vigil
👀
A little
2HP is better ?
Happened on new server im on too😅
They put about 10k gems in Popstar
Oof
New servers lots of people quit anyway
They like TA and maybe new world and then it becomes boring
@ornate compass 


Stay away from me evil soul

I can’t type
guys is there an easier way to find loot quest raiders other than panning the entire map?
Im doing this side so if I ever need to swap back to mech I have UC
Nope
Hi love. ♥️ I’m doing well. You?
Was just about to say I miss your voice, and you joined VC.😂


Is this worth it at higher levels ? I totally forgot about this thing
Oh they upgrade this. I love the devs
do better
😆😘
You know if there's a chart of what each level gives you?

More and more is more better

Flex 💪
Like my base? @neon latch
This is a new one?
I would do this except my laptop probably wouldn’t work for it
I saw this one too I jsut pressed the blue button it should work
🐋
Sweet ty
What's the consensus on Alvida?
Duke -
At lvl 0 - 130 X 3 = 390%
15% Deb to 1 unit
At lvl 5 - 20% Vitility
Layla -
At lvl 0 - 80 X 4 = 320%
At lvl 5 - 95 X 4 = 380%
Alvida -
At lvl 0 - 95X3 = 295%
+3 deb, la, ha
Ada -
At lvl 0 - 90X3 = 270%
+1 deb, la, ha
At lvl 5 - 15X3 = 345%
Did anyone tested At lvl 0 or Lvl 5 which is better.
In terms of DMG order will be Duke > Layla > Ada > Alvida
Except ada, i have all hero. But not sure whihc one to upgrade. Anyone help me on that.
if you haven't upgraded any of these heroes then you should pick the latest one is Alvida
Lol
Reason to choose, Alvida ?
Just because it's new or something else.
because it's the latest one, more likely to have better synergy with future navy heroes
im certain Layla aint going anywhere
@reef peak Thanks, here are some productive tips 🫶
By the way Hoplon & Xyston are equally choices for chip set
And impacts are recommend over all other types of runes
Layla rocks
Im shock

one of the most old hero in the game that are still good rofl 
Alvida is stronger than Ada but not stronger than Layla right ?
I have seen many different evaluation but not really sure
Game
I wouldn't say it's stronger than Ada, maybe just a tiny bit, the fact that Layla can still win after Duke, Ada and Alvida release is just insane
All these new navy Indes hero has made no serious breakthrough from Layla
Alvida definitely has better debi, plus la and ha but the lowered dmg ruined it
I'm not an expert, but I think Jelly's advice is much more constructive. Just saying that a Hero is good or bad doesn't fuel the debate 🙄
To put it simple Alvida just provide Debil debuff not provide any damage, either this kind of mechanics will soon linked with the new ATK buff hero that suited with Stoick.
I had a feeling The Dev want to cook something with this Splash shield mechanics for Navy
but for me..., Silence who made Navy still relevant...
It seems they wanted to made this Shield Meta shine 
4-5 debil activate is a good thing for Alvida since you need exc 7 for Ada to have those kind of activations
ye it's all on what lilia replacement going to be
even ex7 alvida doesn't do more dmg than layla ex7
I need my refund after spending Maple 
the worst hero to ever exist
Yeah finally found it
29.5T
what a great hero
even way lower with normal atk dmg
43.6T
You never met people with serval exclusive 7
😂
In my testing, Alvida and Ada are similar, tested head to head, while Layla is significantly weaker.
But, in battles, Alvida should be stronger due to much more HA and LA. Plus, with some runes there, Alvida will be better than Ada too (as you know, I don't test with runes, it's hard to know which runes player have, and thus, everyone has different runes, or even more likely, not have them at all 😄 )
I would go with Alvida if I have Layla, and I have resources. If not, just use what you have...
Dukes the only hero there 
Go for it

My guide is for the comunity

That looks a bit brutal 😂
Need advice, 128 Shard is less to achieve +8 MS bond. Should i use universal GS?
yes
Because I'm Navy and 128 short on Army hero. With Red recruit it too long. Sam and Li Hongy
go go 128 shard is nothing
Woooo congrats!
it increases durability of the march a bit
what's the use, if i can't check enemy pet stats
I haven’t seen this before 👀
Looks cool but if you can’t check the stats it’s kinda eh 😂
Yeah, you just know slot level and which pet they have but not the stas.
Hmmm
My blue can be better then opponent purple.
🤣
MM is always Great. Good at running whale 🐳 gameplay 🤣
Hoky started spending 👀
yup
Dayum
Commanders, we’re excited to announce a brand-new
"feature"
the Custom Weekly Pass!
🎉
feature
feature
Adding more paywall n killing f2ps .. can't be a feature. Huh 😒




Lets end the cat chain now pls.......
Yeah yeah, mods are boring. Soz
yeah all cats go to #☕│off-topic
@frail plaza Oi
I’ve been told I’m featured on your background
Unblock me so I can see it ya muppet @frail plaza
I know you only have 2 braincells and they’re both fighting for 3rd place, but what good is mentioning me if I can’t see it

It's a group of dogs barking at another dog
Anyway this needs to go to #☕│off-topic
What are all the ways to get blessing keys? I can’t find anything about it
Through maps (which you get when you craft 10 legendary titan gear) or through buying them:
- blessing extension pack (2)
- blessing key pack (1)
I was looking for f2p ways. I don’t care about packs thanks
how to gain item 
Depends on how maps your alliance releases and if you are lucky, this month I got 2 from claiming and 1 from summoning
Featured costs $100 usd ☠️

They should stop 🛑 it calling a feature.
It's just a sales stuff
Huh 😒
#🤣│topwar-memes message
Sales for people to spend more money and go broke financially
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Kill me
Damn you whaling
Does anyone know how many missiles is required to weaken the level 70 boss in alliance defense?
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Ill send you 11
What makes it worse
@sick grail WHAT DID I MISS HERE
Wow okay beep you then 
Wut
Nah gotta wait 23hrs cause I ain't buying the 50 pack
😂
Did I sssttutter
You missed everything you didnt see
And thats a conversation for #☕│off-topic
Mhm mhm

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happens
its karma for all the times you wrote #☕│off-topic to us
It's not even funny 1 sec
but I laughed OtherCatSadCL
it's not even that bad
Wth you mean
hope you feel better after seeing my ss
Yea but how many others have you done 
not much good
decor and base was already 3k on first 2 days

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Just whale things
I only use 10x pulls 1-2x every like 30 pulls now, traumatized after so many bad pulls
i tried
then got 10+ combo for one hits
then got motivated and did 10x....0 combo
Yep it’s a trap 😂

I just get to 660 vouchers and chill til cat box comes out, then back to 660 and wait
I just do the weekly pass, I got the ray so I stopped caring about pushing the Ht again 😂
passive stats for mf HT

I refuse to push it that hard, they got too greedy, I just got the 4th piece last round because I like spawning the angels for players to hit 😂
I’m stubborn about remolds past 32, toothless decor, and the mothership 😂
I got lured
had I shared the chip in bob's server?
I don’t think so, I made a top tier core day it came out and I was satisfied 😂
Oh yeah they got you good
I tried doing air and army def top tier and it didn’t work out
👀 Who was this wy!? Was it a name before? Or what?
saburo maybe
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👋 No?
F
Check my profile we are still in the old discord server
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Time to knowingly fall for it again

I wish I could give you 10 more...
🤗

I'd share the missing 2
I’d take it away
But 10 is better than none
👀



The amount of times I’ve said this from playing topwar
It’s not coins it’s more like gems for me
What is up with arena
Always the same like 8 people using it
Quit hiding @kindred sorrel
Oooof
Someone beat you to it! 😂
Can someone help me with this? I'm a little lost ?
I just joined the Discord
and I don't know where to put the code
You aren't being touched because you arent in Tab 1/2/3 on Slot 69🤣
Slot is not active, becuase it need gold pets but why Pet not active as they all have attribute specific to my march
That's Navy Def and Navy Dec in which it showing Not Active
My bad got it, because pet does not have attribute which you are looking for. That's why they are showing INACTIVE
Rohr came out last month. Still not released in my server. Alvida was announced this month and released shortly after. What's the deal with that?
🥱
wha da helly
You’ve been cursed by the TopWar gods
my luck shot down after i got the titan blessing decor earlier
From topwar with love..
Hi
@odd patrol 
Community love and respect
As usual
wtf
Imagine finding out theres a labubu clan in the game 🎮
Yeah we moved last week! Nice being somewhere active again!
Loot Quest week !!
remember to check out this guide to make sure you optimize all of your techs while playing Loot Quest
Enjoy your weekend everyone !!!!
Seer should be Goated 
@ornate compass
@neon latch yangii 

Darky boy
when u get ex 7 there will be 15 more heroes already 
Finally 🔥
Make it 25 n share final
🎊
It's a def again
My luck at the top of the hill
137% def, need 13 more to reach 150% 🫣
Awesome 👍😎
I hope that instead of Navy HP, it increases the All unit DMG inc 
Give me a little 😭
Thank you 🤣
im beyond speechless
Its been a while since I last logged in
Which heroes pair well together? I want to set up 2 army marches, 2 Air Force and maybe 1 navy march for Titan canyon
Good luck
you need to aim for 3 heroes tech first
then pick main combo later
for now , you want to play purple heroes only
Chris Leon Marvingt
Binary Sara Rohr
Hiccup Vivian Jett
Tigress Storm Abad
Jill Alvida Shen
I have the gathering teams set already
Wait i have some lvl 7 and some lvl 5 from way back.
For Army Po, Asuka, Snake, Rei, Striker, and Shinji lvl 7
Fir Airforce hiccup, storm, jett, tigress, brady and barbie lvl 7
I don’t have most of these
You are not making 5 marches with these 
Po Striker Snake, Hiccup Storm Jett would be your 2 best
I have more but some are lvl 5 don’t know if still useful and duke lvl 7 too
All of them ex7 or?
Okay i will take a look and come back
Yes and duke 7 too
Where's navy heroes?
@lavish dawn Here is the question above... If anyone knows how the drawings about equipments they will answer the question
@neon latch
If any idea about detail of equipments drawing where they can find easily please help them... especially equipments drawings are hard to catch by f2p players
It’s a sham
You can’t get them if you’re F2P
I know but we need to clear it for Low War
You’ll have to play 2 years+ to get 5 gold blueprints for free
1 in EL and 1 on New Year and if you’re very lucky you can get one for free from the spins
Such as with limited time events they can bring drawing packages not sure
but only weapon
Yes
Think that spenders remuld the gold equipments... On the other hand f2p players even can not take gold equipments
That’s how they make money mate
maybe understandable for their sales policy but they need free players to keep the game alive and well... and most of the game knowledge belongs to average and less spending players
an extra advise on new event here ^^^
We discuss about it from 2019 early years of TW but they never listen @odd patrol
New servers enter regular events rotation after TA1. So, you are on a server too new for Rohr, but you're now in regular rotation and you will receive new heroes as they come.
Rohr will be available to you only for money. 🙁
@odd patrol Such as this skin event
After we discuss with game support they give the trick for the average players and less spenders
One week later they gave the trick about collecting missiles with a plan
They know they killed the game by they own

Players who don't spend or have lower budgets need to raise their voices... At the beginning of the game, many players were moderating to help, but the sightings I see now are not going anywhere other than being here to support the whales in the game.
From what I've seen, at most 10 servers in total are full of whales and competing, while the remaining 4,300+ servers are eating their popcorn while watching them
I never shared these views with toxic intent, but something needs to be done.
Best regards
You can pretty easily, just need to save gems, 100-120K gems to save as f2p isn’t bad at all with a moderate activity server and little discipline - bigger players won’t ever do Cupid for gold blueprints, but it is what I tell all of our f2p to save towards
Remolds though, yeah naw it will take time or money, but you can do it with time I guess. Definitely not an easy one
you know the remulded equipment tree right?
It meant billions of gems spending
Not help
And you need payment again with cupid event as well
Remolds different, like I said directly above your comment^^
If you just want to be angry and complain, I get it and feel free, but I am simply pointing out that it is ABSOLUTELY doable as a f2p player to get gold equipment in Cupid and I have gotten many of our server players to do so this year
My review and thoughts covers all equipment and all its developments, don't get me wrong
One year one gold... 10 years 10 gold... Good plan... I will tell them to inherit their accounts
I'm not angry... I feel sorry thats it
Have to be in a dead server to miss the ability to get the gems to that point, and 2 free annually, and even one from Cupid is 3 of 4 in first year
Going 3 unit types in this time is beyond stupid, good luck changing my mind on that, unnecessary and waste of time and effort
But with knowledge and planning you can totally finish gold equipment on a unit type - it’s the remolding to 20 that’s the issue with time (but also tiny bit improved from a year ago with monthly event)
That’s said, the bigger players all agree about the disparity concerns, but specific to your very first points with Pluto, about gold equipment in general - it has been answered clearly above for how to get them and I don’t want to detract from that for the f2p lurkers glancing in here for info
needs to be done but won't. it's the nature of games like top war
There are some big issues with the game, but ability to unlock a gold blueprint as a f2p in a moderately active server - this is not one of the big issues lol
Unfortunately yes
So true but step by step we can do something
First step will be to organize thoughts and arguments, above is disjointed and starts with one thing that is addressed and pivots halfway to another
I’m not saying it to be rude or anything, but running a company/managing products, customer feedback that isn’t specific and doesn’t have any organization is tough to follow
Not that I think presenting it here will have any significant impact, but if you were to go about trying to enact change - that is step 1
If ya just want to meme about it/hope someone else does it, another story and understand no problem 😂
Never tried via Cupid but yeah probably possible
Didn’t even think about it. Thanks Tex.
We need gems too badly to consider it 🤣
It’s true
Played TC against a guy who could 90% my base if my main wasn’t in base but couldn’t fully go through
Hurt every time he attacked😔
isnt TC meta is like keep only one or two full marches
so that its only 25 gems per mistake?
thats different league miku
Let’s stay respectful first and foremost
Abuse

really?
i feel like defending has no point
unless u can survive the biggest whale in the room
so beter to be efficient and strongly defend key points with key marches
and leave base open
I prefer defence 😉
It you loose badly just accept the defeat
For most fights cheap repair while defending units
It's farming in dead TC
For Crystal?
I forgot what they’re called, only know they’re the purple ones
Yeah, uninterrupted gem mining and gathering score

That's bounties
they are lagging my computer during loot quest 
this makes sense. Thank you for this.
What kind of monstrosity is that

An army of people with poetic skin right below that
Gotta love bot accounts
i dont even think its worth it
all the clicking for a 0.01% chance to get key for a 0.1% chance to get gold
i wish picking someone elses stuffs gives blessing o
What is bot Account?
someone had a bumpy ride in realm
@thin wind look at this

sup Yang
Maru you know he is always like this
@austere path miku darling
Would you like to join me for enigma realm later?

No? Alright cool

Could've been nicer about it miku
That was just mean honestly


That’s Yang
99% of the time
Come Yang hop on VC
Them bricks lookin kinda 🥵
I need someone to yell at
Yangness Syndrome 

What the hell😂
Nice weather today


Mod is here run away
Erm
Its good to hear you're all doing well
Happy to hear that

@candid juniper
Oh he still got me blocked
@gilded glade thats your fault

Dont even try it
Ive seen you so you cant lie to me
You're gorgeous

Erm
Ngl we’re gonna get kicked off game discussion

anywho just got T15


You 🐋
hope that guy didn't quit lol

not a fan of ms
What you mean😂
but meh... seeing SAGA reach 273M CP that are way bigger than my ms
so stay little is more comfy for me

Saga the goat
Jcinga that crazy MF just reach 143M CP 
Nice
He’s a pretty chill guy
damn...
When I last spoke to him which was maybe 3-4 months ago he had done 800K
More ms to Rockfield em

well.... theres no use for me to try hard for increasing my march size
Nah dont try hard
Pretty good spending to power ratio
Just slowly from that store
The average level of dmg/def/ms decor is about 4.1~4.2 and he has been in this game less than 3 months

Japanese server?
Topwar
no
Yup
bruh...
Their TA2 starts next week or the week after
Stats like that Already
broo.... 600% before Titan Gear is mad...
No tg or pets yet
I hate everytime TW got a filthy rich MF in their game rofl
😂

@low egret
need free food, shelter and moneh
insane
Broooo 5 and 4 already?
Nah man
this is insane
need to have that account for $1 asap
😂😂

Seriously man..., lowkey wanted to delete big
account 🤣
Give a middle finger to TW
Since you're the only person I know there
you're not serious
Im on your server 😂
Im being serious 😂😂😂
These accounts with all the same levels, base skins, cp, etc. they look like bots but it’s hard to prove they actually are
It’s against tos to use bots or macros etc of course but unfortunately hard to prove they use it
Can someone big put their march on arena
Maybe that server is 1611, the vivid server
That player is famous in Vivid for using an unintelligible amount of accounts. Probably man powered

Someone like @ripe grove
That’s possible as well indeed
One Vivid player is using over 100 accounts in a manpower… 😂
lol how come ?
As far as I can tell, it looks like they are only utilizing it to get high scores in AD.
I'm sure most accounts have void🫣
I tried joining but @whole patrol threatened me at the door

@sacred slate tell her off

what? Shes nice tho just love her knife
She threw about 5 knives at me upon entry

@normal scarab Hello, do you think these results are good? 🍿👀
I'm not MVP
she supposed to stab you multiple times in a london style
52k is very good imo
But it hurted 
Thank you 🙏🏻
Last tc I got just under 30k points myself and that’s the highest I’ve ever gotten
She put a 🔪 and ❤️
Meaning she gonna stab me in the heart

To make sure I dont survive


But you are mechanical master, right?
@sacred slate how is it over there
Sounds not too bad then
Good luck 🍿👀
And not even MVP 😔
Yes, please do 🍿👀
What cp are you again?
77m
Good to know 🫠
Congrats
2nd, 3rd and 4th place with a difference of 260 points lol
What’s your march cp?👀
Base cp doesn’t matter anymore
👀
MM op in TC haha that’s why






people still play this game?
You got this
it's just 10m crush it to ground
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We really need 10 channel chats?
what is monster canyon?
Guess it’s Monster domain chat but without the nr 1 rank alliance.
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Topwar can you like add 10 more chats please this isn't enough
Lol I just scrolled up and saw this after I posted

so why there is 2 of it 
total 3 for monster domain 
@reef peak gửi lời chia buồn đến Nass giúp mình nha mod jelly, nhắn ổng mà k trả lời
english only chat

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Is this a good pet to get from breeding?
Good Genetics, go go go 🤣
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green was actually close to our score for the first half lol
Top or bottom better?
yeah could even out my dmg
If you’re army main go bottom
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Whale stuff
@wild grove
Whale
Nah
Ohhhh like ~40m
20k is not bad, enough for the achievement 🍿👀
Yeah
Exactly
Got over 20k about 7mins before the end so was tight-ish but I made it
Good whale dino blue
Congrats 👏🏻
Thanks 😁

Got this beauty
Good job
Which one to occupy when attacking in svs exercise? Navy 270 march size
I assume torrent city?
Hyperion... I would prefer.
Due to extra units
6 march size brings way more stats than atk/hp and the last one is useless as its a dec dmg base
Both
Good answer
Isn't atk hp dmg dec is more beneficial if my march size is high already?
Plus hyperion is cheaper than the other one
No
I think she has all of them already
Ah then equipping hyperion is much better
Yep There’s a reason most whales use that
for each 1 unit it gets the total of you stats
Rich people problems
@sick grail
Shush
so if you have 400% dmg inc/dec and 2500% atk/hp you get that x6
whereas cloudtop is giving 40%
And you can never have enough march size 👀


































as usual

