📱│game-discussion

[north jacinth]

My testing was again with my personal setup, TG, and HT sets, against real opponents, not hero trial. Your mileage may vary

[tough hollow]

To have stats like that , as of now indestructible heroes +hp hero = 2x heroes at ex 5

Ex 7 is above my range to comprehend to be honest

[north jacinth]

Both. On defense the Storm Shadow line was about 4% better. On attack Abad line was about 10% better.

[tough hollow]

Like you said, your base buffs affect it and plus ex level

Sir @sage patio talks mostly from the perspective of f2p heroes

Personally I like hiccup jett vivian/storm, i use storm

Way better then brady and tigress

Can counter navy silence heroes. Hiccup

But against this new set up we have to see

[north jacinth]

Buddy asked me to help him test today lol

I tried to make my line up weak enough to give him an even match but it didn't work

[trim cipher]

How is that possible?

[tough hollow]

I believe can talk in event chat but not in dm unless a certain big level

[trim cipher]

How is this possible on a server that is almost 2 years old?

Creating new accounts is not possible in old servers

And definitely not talking with lvl 5

[tough hollow]

ah so you're af

[north jacinth]

Yes

[tough hollow]

Don't think possible. But could old one . only right answers are with mods

[tough hollow]

Your stats ?

And his

[tough hollow]

Make sense

I've yet to see your defence and remould tier

But you have edge for sure

[summer nacelle]

🥵

[tough hollow]

Also i don't know ex levels

[tough hollow]

Nice one

[north jacinth]

As I said, I tried to make my line weaker. I took out the back row and sent no HT. I crush him fully loaded

[sage patio]

He linked target on world map. He didn't talk as in write a message.

[raven ridge]

Thanks broski

[trim cipher]

Even that should be impossible

Especially with a lvl 5 acc

[sage patio]

Maybe sleeper? Maybe mod? I don't know. 😄

You heard about sleeper cells? They sleep for years, like ciquadas, then one day they wake up and take world by storm. 😄

[trim cipher]

Lil bit late for a sleeper

Who the hell reactivates their little mini account?

[sage patio]

I don't know, it's possible. But, I'm really not sure

And I'm also not sure which server is that, and where is the cut off for creating new accounts

[trim cipher]

All accounts that participated in UD

Or new world.

No idea

[tough hollow]

A lot of factors matters

[north jacinth]

Duh

[tough hollow]

See march size

Heroes, ex skills, triggers, many factors are there.

[sudden hound]

Who does stoick replace?

[neon latch]

Meow

[sudden hound]

Tyyy

[normal scarab]

[neon latch]

How are you @normal scarab

Lil cutie

[normal scarab]

Asleep

You should be as well 👀

[neon latch]

Just waiting on you

[ripe grove]

@neon latch im so weak... 5/5/5 vs 7/7/7 look at his comps...

[austere path]

every ex7 is a x1.4 improvement

over ex5

three is x1.4x1.4x1.4 which is above 2x

[languid stirrup]

Navy Defense march is better than debuff march I changed Shen for stoic I still get better performance

Stoic is stronger than I taught

[austere path]

hmm yeah

stick with air

~_~'

[sage patio]

Miku, test Stoick, Jill And Lilia. 😄

It's time to spend some gold and skill shards. But, not for you. 😄

[river plover]

Is stoic better? My tests showed he lost every time to Shen

Po, Layla, Shenyu vs Po, Layla, Stoic

[austere path]

ill be honest

my navy is still aka-erin-crimson or something

and purple eq

basically, aka one shots 2-heroe marches so thats what my navy is good at

erin too

aka makes sure 7+3 shots first salvo one shots the entire 9 units

then every battle thereafter, u got stocked up charges to one shot everything

[summer nacelle]

Let's leave Stoic aside

We must talk about Hiccup

[sacred slate]

Why Hiccup is OP, period

even army struggle to beat that march

[summer nacelle]

I think Hiccup is very weak

Selina is better

[sacred slate]

[errant fiber]

Agree defence splash is a level about debilitating navy

[wind rock]

I don't like that Stoic isn't universal, could it be that universal heroes are no more?

[sacred slate]

Yes no more universal hero, get used to it m8

The last one was Duke and Po

[sacred slate]

you don't have to understend just spend

[summer nacelle]

We should fight

and see who has the strongest Shaq

[wind rock]

Do you mean next year's collaboration?

[errant fiber]

Universal heroes translate to less spending so probably no more for the future

[acoustic verge]

2222 has a positive reputation?

Well I didn't know that

[sacred slate]

Garuda a good person
cough cough
Ignore me, I'm drunk rn

[acoustic verge]

😂

[acoustic verge]

Don't be drunk

Without me

[sacred slate]

[candid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/shots-fire-simpsons-moe-drink-gif-4404151259742552867

[sage patio]

You test wrong heroes. 😄

Check #1396591676138459196

[sage patio]

Yeah, you better don't change it. It's too powerful for today's standards. 😄

Seriously, don't test Stoick Lilia Jill.

But, it is potentially something that will be nerfed in day or two, it's really too strong. Double strength of previous navy meta does look strange. So, it has to be tested carefully, before investing in it and then finding it doesn't work anymore next day.

[austere path]

whois lilia and who is jill

lilia = hp? jill = silence?

[reef peak]

2nd one

[austere path]

meaning?

i only know japanese version

all i know is that its not meow

[summer nacelle]

🐈

I don't even remember the names of the navy since Akatora

[sage patio]

Lilia is alternative ATK buff, that works with Meowzilla. Jill is from last collab ATK buff.

In short, it's two ATK buff heroes and Stoick (last HP hero, Meowzilla 2). BTW, Meowzilla and Stoick work too, but not as spectacular as Lilia and Jill. And, Jester also works just fine

[austere path]

double silence?

so uh

[sage patio]

No, not double silence.

[austere path]

so no jester?

thats how much i dont care about navy hahaha

can anyone post their stats here

[sage patio]

Lilia:

[austere path]

concentration is?

[sage patio]

Jill

[austere path]

and their EX? are these usable at ex0? should i bother lol

[sage patio]

Check you Japanese version of these heroes

[sage patio]

Jill might work with es0, didn't tested though. Too few trial attempts for something like that.

[austere path]

ok. yea illl try at home

[sage patio]

But, you have at least two dozen mini accounts, it won't be and issue for you

[austere path]

first ill fight shadow/vivian-jet-hiccu

at 0 suppression

then army meta

but without indes....yeah

probably will be like air too where the third hero depends on battle length and Ex

[sage patio]

Navy has much longer battles than other two unit types

[austere path]

its so diverse

too many choice for third hero

[sage patio]

It went in about 10+ rounds with normal stats

[austere path]

vivian, shadow, abad, kum, tigress

[sage patio]

Vivian is best in my testing for most people. Didn't tested es7 and whale stats.

[austere path]

yea long battles kum is king for some reason

12 in a row wins ~_~

oh one loss

btw do u guys do cata 10 at a time or 20 at a time

i feel like after i got my lv1 deco, i dont feel like doing 20 at a time anymore

[spice pumice]

Where is the rewards of last weak

[spice pumice]

Can you tell me about this

[frail plaza]

Do 50

[frail plaza]

Already gave out when monster battlefield end, and when domain duel end

Now new round already

[spice pumice]

We didn't get these rewards

Only alliance ranking rewards

[spice pumice]

.

[austere path]

btw guys

do u make 10 cata at a time or 20

i already got the lv1 deco

[frail plaza]

2 more weeks

tier ranking rewards is 1 month

[spice pumice]

[simple wadi]

I do 20. I have 2 lvl1 and 6/10 shards

[austere path]

yeah i only have one lv1

[simple wadi]

After reaching to lvl2, I stop at 10

[austere path]

didnt get any 7%

so i feel like i shoudnt bother

i guess its 20 gold cata vs 3% dmginc

[simple wadi]

Good reason honestly

[austere path]

which also means

i only made 200 ish gold catalyst since game started

[simple wadi]

Anything to go for? I feel +1 march size and 4% dmg is not worth 999 vouchers to go for

[austere path]

after titan

lots of things arent worth it

titan is like $20 for 1.5 gold, hence $200 for an effect

which is 10% dmg inc, or 3%-4% final march power

so $200 for 999 pts for 1 march 4% di is kinda weaker than an effect

oh well after titan i really totally gave up.

[simple wadi]

I’m gonna wait a year to sell these effects in auction house lol

If someone is kind enough to bid on them lol

[austere path]

how many effects u have now ?

0 star = 1, half star = 2 full star = 4

[frail plaza]

it's worth, what the hell

it's equivalent to 2 base skin holding in stock

[simple wadi]

You can’t upgrade them with decor shards 😦 so idk

[austere path]

i mean

i dont buy skins anymore so

probably skip

[sacred slate]

AoS will be sold just put that rune into ur unused gear and bid that 2750 token 2x times

[simple wadi]

I have like 30 effects maybe, almost all 1 star

[austere path]

so 120 effects?

dang

1 star is 4 right

no effect, empty star=1, halfstar=2, onestar = 4

[simple wadi]

Sorry I meant 0 star lol

[frail plaza]

because it's meant to dry out the big whales

[simple wadi]

The lowest lol

[frail plaza]

81k vouchers for lv5

cant let them have it cheap with decor shards

[sacred slate]

Dragon fly!

your wallet went along

[simple wadi]

I heard selling rune is easier than a gear with rune.

[frail plaza]

not true at all

i sold 0 runes

[austere path]

its just random

[frail plaza]

but sold all rare runes placed into gear

[simple wadi]

Because a whale can buy runes and upgrade to get max star. Can’t do that we gears

[austere path]

i never sold any gear nor runes so

gg

all of it is $100+ right?

any gear

i remember $100 only gets 480 pts?

[sacred slate]

I already done that bro and the last day i put my steel torrent into a gear then it quickly sold out 😂

[austere path]

and a gear is 1000?2000?

[frail plaza]

big whales were buying gears with runes near the end

no one bought runes only

need to put on gear first

[sacred slate]

I mean... they can recycle it so its more win for them

[simple wadi]

Why though? A whale has a gear with 6% dmg in three stats already, they just need more runes to get to 40% dmg inc. buying mid gears with runes can’t help them

[frail plaza]

not really, they actually want to buy gears with gold stats

i know people who wants them

[simple wadi]

I tried selling this for 7 days, nothing 😥

[frail plaza]

because no whales want to buy 0 star dmg runes

[simple wadi]

I see

[frail plaza]

you need something like impact rune, they want the 1 full stars

[simple wadi]

What if it was 20% dmg inc? Still small enough?

[frail plaza]

💀

[neon latch]

The ones I sold were mostly 4%+

[frail plaza]

dont remember, the higher level the rune the better chances, of course

[sacred slate]

basic rune that will buy --> Artilery,Unbreakable,Steel Torrent,AoS

[frail plaza]

and rare runes like all out surge, unbreakable, steel torrent, artillery storm, all i had those, all sold

[neon latch]

If that blue stat was 3% then someone wouldve bought it

[simple wadi]

Like if i do this, i can sell it?

[frail plaza]

yeah i sold one

[simple wadi]

But why a whale lack a 1 star impact in the first place? Isn’t 1 star already too easy to get for their spending?

[sacred slate]

Impact runes one of the rarest rune to get 😂

usually AF main easily got that rune

[simple wadi]

Interesting

[frail plaza]

yeah

[simple wadi]

I’m air main lol

[frail plaza]

someone was complaining not getting impact runes from crafting

[frail plaza]

the debilitation from impact rune also preferred in all marches for mega whales

so they need more i guess

[simple wadi]

Makes sense

[sacred slate]

creating their RSS march full impact gear

[neon latch]

What in the bullcra p

[sacred slate]

not u

[frail plaza]

bob march with 1000% dmg

[sacred slate]

[neon latch]

[austere path]

btw

[languid stirrup]

Damage increase

[austere path]

i did the maths that day

burn damage +30% versus damage increase/decrease 20% versus 35% chance to deal 2x30% burn damage

[languid stirrup]

Concentration is damage increase based on the type of shield

[austere path]

apparently

[languid stirrup]

Did you test defense march vs debuff march?

[austere path]

20% di/dd > burn dmg30% on hiccup ~ 35% chance to deal 2x30% burn damage

mirror match

[languid stirrup]

My test says defense march with stoic is better

[austere path]

burn dmg30% is absolutely terrible on a hero not hiccup

so don do it

hiccup and binary-q should monopolise the armor debuff plus

[spice pumice]

What about hiccup father

[languid stirrup]

Very strong

[spice pumice]

Is he worth for changing Shen

[frail plaza]

no

[languid stirrup]

He's better than shen 💯

[spice pumice]

I'm using Shen Valentine and Duke

[languid stirrup]

Even if you decide to run stoic on Jill he's better

[spice pumice]

Okay i will go with you 🤣

[languid stirrup]

What stat are you using for this test

[languid stirrup]

What's your stat?

[frail plaza]

4400/4000/500/500/140

you dont want to go in depth

[spice pumice]

Nice

[frail plaza]

because i just threw the best report and say it's better

navy vs navy is RNG

[languid stirrup]

Ok that explains the reason.---superlong battles--all.in all stoic DMG output is way higher than shens

[frail plaza]

nah

they are on par at best

[languid stirrup]

You're wrong

[frail plaza]

im right

[languid stirrup]

Stoic DMG output exceed Shen's have tested this many times

[frail plaza]

anyways i dont care

[languid stirrup]

If you think am wrong try navy vs a stronger army read the trigger rate per dmg

[frail plaza]

navy vs navy is RNG

[languid stirrup]

It takes Shen around 10 procs more to reach same DMG as stoic

Jill is just the major reason why debuff march is very strong not shen

Shen is super weak nowadays

[frail plaza]

ok

[languid stirrup]

Even old meow has higher DMG than shen

[frail plaza]

ok

[languid stirrup]

Lol

[frail plaza]

yet i 50M navy beat a 60M meowzilla navy

[languid stirrup]

That's Jill doing its thing

[frail plaza]

sorry friend

[languid stirrup]

Keeps meow in check

[frail plaza]

i use jester layla crimson lol

[languid stirrup]

It's the same thing bud

[frail plaza]

ok

[languid stirrup]

Jill/jester -silence debuff

[austere path]

why not just make air and beat up navy mirror match

[frail plaza]

im waiting for my gold shards

[languid stirrup]

I test based on my stat..no titan gear no ht..just testing the heroes and take a look at the trigger /DMG this is what I have noticed

[austere path]

to me silence is just bad now

since both army and air counters silence effect

so just go with the best non-silence march

silence is only good in mirror match

[frail plaza]

only for you and alan

[austere path]

since all navy damage is skill activated

[languid stirrup]

Why?

[frail plaza]

no reason

his just built different

[frail plaza]

he has 30k ex skill shards

i wonder why too

[wanton sigil]

Nice 👍 miku is best

He started on 502 and after 5 years still sticking around with same friends. Dedication

And with same SSR

[languid stirrup]

jill-debil-bw-3 up to to 6 ceazed slots every 2 rounds.

3 silenced upto 3 stuns

That changes alot of things

[wanton sigil]

Silence .. nope

No longer a big thing

[languid stirrup]

Stun is a big deal

[wanton sigil]

Shield 🛡️ types SSR in Navy are more successful

[forest fox]

if i were to upgrade which i prerfer as HP hero crimson or stoic.

[languid stirrup]

Stoic not even close

[wanton sigil]

And that extra splash dmg stuff

[frail plaza]

crimson is outdated since Shen

[languid stirrup]

What i said earlier..stoic is stronger than shen

[frail plaza]

im just waiting for shen replacement

[forest fox]

i don't have shen

Next HP navy hero going to 6-7 month if we follow cycle.

[wanton sigil]

Just use stoick 😅 you don't need exclusive too

It's far best for f2p friendly stuff

[languid stirrup]

I stick with my march..I run debuff I just wait till one is replaced and change ain't dancing around the debuff/defense march it cost alot of exshards front that

[sick grail]

I'm never going to believe what HUMi says when he says this

To a report that has 400 lvl100 units

[languid stirrup]

I didn't look at the unit

[frail plaza]

debi navy >>>

[wanton sigil]

Collaboration SSR will survive min 1 year

If you look longevity it's best

[frail plaza]

even for defense navy meta, you need shark HT estoc

Average out -> they're on par only

[violet cape]

Garuda what would you say about hiccup-jet-max combo without exclusive skills

[languid stirrup]

Doesn't change the fact that stoic DMG is higher than shen

[frail plaza]

Doesn't change the fact that it is not far better either 😅

[neon latch]

@teal summit I saw that

[frail plaza]

Only whales want 10% upgrade

We need more for how hard it is to get resources

[gilded glade]

doesn't make it better than silence+debi march still

[languid stirrup]

21 trigger on stoic is equivalent to 30 in Shen in DMG..each win for debuff march is just silence doing its thing you can see that almost all the report Shen and ada activated thierskill more

[gilded glade]

[wanton sigil]

Don't look for silence

Ignore it

It's all gimmicks

[languid stirrup]

It's affecting the outcome of the battle so that's not a gimmik

[frail plaza]

lol

[languid stirrup]

Remove silence on Jill
All the time the defense march will smash the f×k out of debuff

[frail plaza]

i better go do kartz instead

[wanton sigil]

See if you want to wait to rely on triggers n silence.
Or build a solid March for 1+ year .. choose the one which works longer.
Or end up replacing every 3 months.

[languid stirrup]

Am just talking about how both march works in reality

[quartz cipher]

[languid stirrup]

Jill march is heavily relying in rng

[gilded glade]

huh?

since when

[languid stirrup]

Doesn't pack as much DMG as defense march

[gilded glade]

never saw any rng in that march...just the proc rate

[wanton sigil]

Humi doing test possibly

[languid stirrup]

That's the rng

I can't say what I don't know

[gilded glade]

[languid stirrup]

You can check your report compare trigger rate

[gilded glade]

it isn't a march focused on defensive

and the stoic lilia march you're talking about... it's so ineffective to run cuz of runes as well which normal players can't do

[languid stirrup]

90-100% of the time you face navy tactic control march your trigger rate is reduced cause of the silence and stuns coming from that march..someone say it's a gimmick when it's affecting the battle outcome

Those report mikumiku sent it's the same thing

Debuff march is taking the RNG of the game and playing it to your favor

[sick grail]

Or the amount clearly

[frail plaza]

you, miku and alan can be best friends

[gilded glade]

bruh that's the whole mechanics of that march

[languid stirrup]

This is a very close report from the ones Miku sent

You can see the DMG /trigger

[gilded glade]

dmg/trigger shows about hero...not the whole march's effectiveness

you know there are three heroes working in a march right?

[languid stirrup]

🤣🤣

[sick grail]

👎

[languid stirrup]

Bro you're just not playing tw

[sick grail]

It's clearly even, stop sugar coating it

[gilded glade]

I'd never recommend anyone to run splash dmg march, cuz running it is costly

[frail plaza]

kinda wild calling a big whale not playing tw

[gilded glade]

you'll need dmg runes on two heroes to run that

[frail plaza]

i wouldnt let this slide if i were you, baby

[gilded glade]

while lower spenders can get easier runes for the silence navy march

[languid stirrup]

I don't care if he's dragon76 or kenobi

[sick grail]

Well we don't care about your wrong opinions then

[gilded glade]

carna was also good the same way stoic is...solely

as a whole march, not so good

[languid stirrup]

My point since this whole thing is--
1.silence is affecting the battle outcome
2.Defense march makes more dmg compared to debuff
Tell me how am I wrong in any of this statement

Take silence off Jill
90% of the battle report debuff won't win any against defense

[sick grail]

Words are just words until it comes to battle reports, which clearly state they are even.

I think you might be a fan of HTTYD and want this to be a good hero when in reality it's average 🤷

[gilded glade]

explain the first point please

take silence off jill and 90% of battle report debuff wont win

bruh what did I just read

take hiccup's ignition and 90% of battle report he'll lose too

🤣

[sick grail]

🤣

[gilded glade]

take my stats away, then 90% of the battle reports I'd lose too

you take stoic's splash or dmg - from shields away too...stoic will lose 90% battles as well...maybe 100% too

😂

[languid stirrup]

I can't say more..I stated earlier that stoic DMG output is higher than shen

Reason why it feels close is that each report Shen is activating her skill more than stoic..

Reason is silence from Jill

It affects everything

[gilded glade]

cuz that's the whole game mechanics...its built that way and meant to effect the game

😂

[languid stirrup]

Like this for example

[languid stirrup]

Someone stated earlier that's it's a gimmick that's why I had pointed it out

[gilded glade]

the silence heroes are meant to silence the opponent heroes...what else you want them to do

😂

sit still and look pretty innit

[wanton sigil]

Silence is not a big thing now.
I still suggest not to fall 🍁 for them

Go with stoick kinda new genZ stuff

[gilded glade]

I'd run silence heroes on all 3 marches if it had the hero for it

[languid stirrup]

Silence is a big deal when your heroes can't activate their skill you're left with regular attacks..you'll loose badly

[frail plaza]

cant forget running silence hero on air force too

it works guys trust me bro

[gilded glade]

its been there since ages

[languid stirrup]

You'll notice this when you're missing slots your march performance becomes terrible against silence march

[gilded glade]

just players finding about it now and saying game is broken

[wanton sigil]

My experience... Navy players have only cried in past with low troops in base and ships getting wrecked while they tried to silence the enemy

[sacred slate]

Just put everything with silence it'll work

[gilded glade]

attrition has been the only problem with navy

[wanton sigil]

Very harmless

[frail plaza]

as @slow pagoda said, we need silence runes

strongest rune ever

[gilded glade]

full silence

[languid stirrup]

[gilded glade]

they slacked a bit, po and marv should've had 0 triggers 🤣

[sacred slate]

[languid stirrup]

Because they added silence to the same target

3+3+3=9 if they add silence to same target you're getting 6-9 silence every round

9 silence should be very difficult

[gilded glade]

yeah ik

[gilded glade]

make his dreams come true

[languid stirrup]

That's a very long battle

[frail plaza]

me not dev

[languid stirrup]

Prolly a scorpion formation

[frail plaza]

need ask my vip16 cs in CN, on my Chen account

[gilded glade]

its obviously scorpion just by looking at report

[languid stirrup]

Yeah I noticed the DMG on the regular attck

[gilded glade]

there's no shark units or eagle dmg

so only scorpion is left

why prolly 😂

[languid stirrup]

Ahh sorry my bad..it's not hero trial

Don't mind me

[gilded glade]

duhhh

different march sizes

[languid stirrup]

How's 3384

[sacred slate]

[languid stirrup]

Been watching some of your vid lately on yt

[gilded glade]

quite good

[languid stirrup]

Tamim is your favorite buddy 🤣

[orchid copper]

Not sure how you can say you just talking about how both march works in reality while removing silence from Jill is basically not the reality

The reality is silence does exists

[gilded glade]

I'm quite charming afterall 💁🏻‍♂️

[languid stirrup]

Please read older messages I can't say more on this I have made my self clear

[orchid copper]

It's like let's remove burn ignition on hiccup just because

[gilded glade]

to show carna is better

[languid stirrup]

Why have I said so?
Someone said it's a gimmick it's doesn't matter when in reality it does

[orchid copper]

Finally we can agree that you're cute

[gilded glade]

ohh that was garuda

[languid stirrup]

So we are in the same page..am just stating that silence is big factor..whole debuff march relies in it and that's how it is..this even explains the fact why defense march having so much DMG to breach the gap that silence has made..

There's no point in having a big gun you can't use

In reality tbh it's not even 3 units getting silenced after 2 rounds it goes up to 6 as the RNG from bw-3 allows

[sacred slate]

anywho

[frail plaza]

why listen to garuda?

[orchid copper]

let's remove hostile from army because it's how it works

[gilded glade]

it'll lose 90% battles then

[sacred slate]

why i like that march, masochist ahh march

[frail plaza]

are you masochist?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-eating-cat-eating-food-gif-24575246

[sacred slate]

[sick grail]

Bro 💀

[orchid copper]

no pain no gain march in literal way

[orchid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sushi-roll-eat-gif-14374377823736313643

[languid stirrup]

Can't say more..crazy people on here you just take one thing I say and start talking based on it when I was proving to someone that silence is a gimmick when in reality it plays a key role in debuff march..

Yuk

[sick grail]

And mags play a key role in magnetic march as without them there is no damage, what would you like us to say?

[languid stirrup]

How are you a mod ?

Can't you read what I had said earlier

[sick grail]

I can read and the "tw guru" is failing

[languid stirrup]

If you want me to repeat it I can
1.i said stoic has a higher DMG output compared to Shen
2.navy debuff march relies on it silence while having a lesser DMG output compared to defense march.

[sick grail]

I really don't care tbh, you don't know the difference between a hero trial report and a normal report that says enough for me about how reliable your info is 👌

[sacred slate]

I mean thats the sole reason in Navy debuff, its silence

You put that out then only have 2 hero

Just compare this "splash & shield" mechanic to "silence & debi"

I'll tried on ex 3 maybe to see which one is the loser

Exc 7 Jill,Ada and Shen still on top

[ornate compass]

[sacred slate]

Hi kaza~ 🩴

[ornate compass]

Hi love ♥️

[sacred slate]

Hows ur day, i hope you doin great

[acoustic verge]

Poor cat

[ornate compass]

Just woke up. Need coffee 🤣 how about you?

[gilded glade]

good morning

[sacred slate]

same still sleepy after 1 shot espresso

[gilded glade]

[sacred slate]

[acoustic verge]

Vodka?

[ornate compass]

One shot of espresso is not enough for sure

[sacred slate]

I don't drink
cough cough
trust me

[ornate compass]

Good morning son ♥️

[gilded glade]

have a nice day

[sacred slate]

Yeah

atleast 2 or 3

[ornate compass]

You too sweetheart 🫂

[acoustic verge]

cough cough

[sacred slate]

Thats urm...

[acoustic verge]

[frail plaza]

you dont have to prove anything to garuda

[sacred slate]

😂

[languid stirrup]

What have garuda done

He's a nice guy

[sacred slate]

Garuda F2P lord

[languid stirrup]

Swears I don't why I decide to turn on tw official discord chat notifications 😂..this chat is terrible.. roasting zone

[acoustic verge]

Welp

[languid stirrup]

Lol 😆

[languid stirrup]

Imma save this

[frail plaza]

we're all nice guy until you do things you shouldn't have

[sacred slate]

yeah so "nice" wanted to feast me all the time

[frail plaza]

mary chan is too delicious

[languid stirrup]

😹

[frail plaza]

not so nice when he decided to break an agreement his alliance made just because he hates the server his alliance is trying to work with

[sacred slate]

[wanton sigil]

Garuda rules ❤️💋

[orchid copper]

reading this is like you just wanted more damage and that's it, debuff exists to reduce or even nulls the damage dealers with the exchange of "lesser damage". how you can expect silence but also with big damage? it's like you wanted to play with a dual sword which is why kratos dies. no defensive stuffs, gotta grab the shield

[austere path]

best navy is what again?

stoic jill jack?

[coral jewel]

@frail plaza foooxyyyy boooxyyy

[orchid copper]

jack & jill are tasty

[coral jewel]

Gib free acc nowww

[candid juniper]

All your TW knowledges turn into ashes when you have mega whales as your opponents.

[frail plaza]

gave

[coral jewel]

@orchid copper You also gib free acc

[frail plaza]

you will receive in only 80 years

[gilded glade]

jack and jill went up the hill

[coral jewel]

Liaaaaa

[austere path]

already stated why in the same sentence =.=''

[candid juniper]

Then your ego says I didn’t sign up for this shiiiiiiiiit

[austere path]

too many thngs naturally counter silence. counter, burn, magnet, normal attack

[coral jewel]

No

[austere path]

so silence only appears strong in the mirror match

it doesnt disable passives

passive heroes now are major damage dealers

[orchid copper]

gib free acc

[coral jewel]

Ok

It’s in syns dms

[sick grail]

His knowledge got silenced

By Jill

[austere path]

wait guys

u are all joking right?

when u said "stroic jill lilia"

i just did a battle with suppression 0% vivan-jett-hiccup and its not even close

[candid juniper]

Unfortunately his Tag isn’t MBB tho

[frail plaza]

your 30k ex skill shards counters everyone

it scares us all

[frail plaza]

who said that?

it's your friend alan did

[austere path]

best march now?

[frail plaza]

no one else runs jill lilia stoic lol

[frail plaza]

still jill ada shen

[austere path]

gg stoink

lol

her name is ada wang

ahahahaha

yeah. RIP navy.

painful to test

guess another skip

[lusty warren]

can stoic replace crimson??

i am running Jill Layla Crim

[sacred slate]

Well since u have Jill, all silencw hero will blend tgether

but i'll hold for the next Shen

[candid juniper]

Perhaps move Crim to 2nd March

[lusty warren]

being F2P i cant risk making ex5 and then fail lol

[forest fox]

Make stoic without es5, All good.

But if already crimson with es5. I think look for more better.

[austere path]

stoic what what?

[lusty warren]

Stoic

New neavy hero

Of collab

[austere path]

i mean what combo

[forest fox]

The next HP hero will take a longer time. May be 6-7 month or more.

[austere path]

from my tests, jett-carna-hiccup is leading

kinda

at ex3

[forest fox]

Navy vs air

[austere path]

supression off

[forest fox]

I used all my 20 test

[trim gorge]

imo, Stoick is only good at es7

[forest fox]

Everything is good at es7 But you can't have it.

Only 🐳 stuff.

[trim gorge]

yeh so skip, its not good to hv at es5 imo

[forest fox]

I don't have any HP hero yet. So i just going to keep it without es.

Saving es for Meta

Because shen replacement not be sooner

[sacred slate]

not quite right

Stoic just need a proper ATK buffer, i think Lilia not the one for him

[slow pagoda]

Lilac replacement need to be better

To make stoic run .

Stoic joins the list of heros which got nerfed on release

[languid stirrup]

When running defense march try using bw-3

[sacred slate]

Later, i tried this HT shield with ROC combinations

seems not work for Stoic

[slow pagoda]

Yellow ht with shamshir could work to enhance dmg ..or pink ht 😁

[slow pagoda]

Looks like old devs are back. They liked airforce 🥺

[slow pagoda]

Dont replace . You need shen replacement. 😁

[forest fox]

When shen replacement come ?

[slow pagoda]

3-4 months later

Next should be liliac replacement 🥹

[forest fox]

Do we track all hero releases and order somewhere in sheet.

[lavish fiber]

Which one to choose?

[languid stirrup]

Scorpion

[forest fox]

Based on release it took 8 months for shen replacement

[trail surge]

Pop the future hero to be release on 2028 😭😂

[slow pagoda]

Ya

[forest fox]

So i go with stoic without es, because i don't have HP shield hero. I am running gipsy - shinji - mega too old.

[wanton sigil]

Shen -- Jill -- stoick

What will be next Navy replacing ?? Any guess ..

[wanton sigil]

Meowzilla - may 2024
Stoick - July 2025

Min one year.. 😊

[tight mulch]

Always

[high jackal]

People still play this game?

[reef peak]

why not lol

it's getting more interesting with new events

we got monster domain , quite fun to play during weekdays

[gilded glade]

monster domain is......

[reef peak]

funnnnnnnnnnn !!!!

i swear it's really fun !!!!!

[gilded glade]

thats not the F word I had in my mind

but okay

[frail plaza]

Need shark HT

Even tho not debi meta, best HT is still debi

[sick grail]

[tight mulch]

[sick grail]

[tight mulch]

[slow pagoda]

You need to replace all.

[wanton sigil]

It's best

Truley love it 💜❤️

[acoustic verge]

3 Katrina shards from 126 rtg chests

My alt btw

@frail plaza rare, right?

[frail plaza]

[acoustic verge]

A bit late but my alt has her now

[wanton sigil]

Lol 😆😂

[reef peak]

She should be in Hero Bond

[wanton sigil]

Kind of very late

[wanton sigil]

With defence stats
Villers Amalia katrina

Would be best

[acoustic verge]

My main has her and 15 tokens in inventory

[versed arrow]

when will the new server open?

[rustic crown]

Nice Game

[trim cipher]

@tight mulch

KUHAAAAAAAAKU

[onyx basalt]

Huge news for the unemployed people

[tight mulch]

@trim cipher

[trim cipher]

KUHAAAAAAAAKU

@frail plaza Don't you dare hit me once!

[tight mulch]

Moooooon

[trim cipher]

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[tight mulch]

🙈

[trim cipher]

Long time No See Bro

[tight mulch]

yes

[spice pumice]

This weak these Points started from starting and you tell me that we got ranking rewards after two weak

So We get rewards according to our Best ranking in 3 weeks or the last week

[forest fox]

Duel Ranking Reward every week.

[spice pumice]

I'm talking about these rewards

[forest fox]

Tier Reward and Tier Ranking reward after whole Monster Domain End.

[frail plaza]

Bro, tier ranking, for a reason

Cycle champion gives no reward, bro

[frail plaza]

[forest fox]

Time From 2025-07-06 to 2025-08-05

[frail plaza]

As long as you're not 40-60M I won't hit

[trim cipher]

66m

[frail plaza]

Too strong for me then

[forest fox]

On this 2025-08-05, you will get all Tier reward and ranking one too.

[frail plaza]

March CP btw

[coral jewel]

@ornate compass gib free acc

[trim cipher]

You were just chatting with me 😆

[trim cipher]

22m

[coral jewel]

@frail plaza I can burn you with my lvl5 troop aka @ornate compass

[frail plaza]

[ornate compass]

[spice pumice]

So when we get these rewards and how's

[coral jewel]

Now I’m jealous

[coral jewel]

Not fair

[trim cipher]

Dont slap me to much

I'm not strong

[coral jewel]

Bad kaza

[ornate compass]

[frail plaza]

Already told ya, at the end of the season

[coral jewel]

[coral jewel]

Kaza bullying me @frail plaza

[north jacinth]

Why can't I open any more repair slots?

[coral jewel]

[frail plaza]

Good luck darky

[frail plaza]

Ask devs

[coral jewel]

Tf I thought we’re friends and you’d jump in and help me

[frail plaza]

Nah, I'd die

[ornate compass]

[frail plaza]

[coral jewel]

Fine

I’m leaving

[ornate compass]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-17500258755908763204

[north jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/well-bye-later-see-you-bye-gif-16004210

[steep trench]

is this hero good?

[sick grail]

Depends who you ask

😂

[frail plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-running-gif-23255603

[full root]

Where Diego move to...???

[acoustic verge]

Wait so those don't have a use anymore? Whaaaaaaaat

[north jacinth]

if thats the case we sould be able to exchange them

[wanton sigil]

Yes it is

[wanton sigil]

3453

Mbb account.
Old account I don't know.. lost tracking

[acoustic verge]

Only with exclusive 10

[acoustic verge]

Yes 1k gems for each please

[wanton sigil]

More slots

Best

March size is 400+

[acoustic verge]

When?

[wanton sigil]

Repair slot 🎰 also 400+

[tame pier]

🧐

[wanton sigil]

Coming soon 😁

[steep trench]

wdym

[acoustic verge]

Exclusive skill level 10

Are you new to the game?

Most heroes only get strong on hidden exclusive 10 buff

[steep trench]

"are you new to the game"🥀💔

[acoustic verge]

[steep trench]

I only know max lv 7

but now u asking there's a hide l v 10??

[acoustic verge]

You never saw exclusive 8?

[steep trench]

i saw but I ignored it

in long ago

not sure if I want to check

[sacred slate]

just go naked
cough
I mean 5 star Stoic w no exc skill

[steep trench]

stay quiet

[acoustic verge]

That's not good

[sacred slate]

ahhh u like in control, hmm?

[acoustic verge]

😂😂😂

[steep trench]

I saw but is there hidden message or no?

[acoustic verge]

Maru being sub today???

[acoustic verge]

No I was just joking 😅

[delicate silo]

👀

@neon latch

[acoustic verge]

Exclusive 8-10 only increase skill % and no additional buff

[sacred slate]

I'm drunk rn
cough cough
Just Ignore me

[acoustic verge]

👀

[acoustic verge]

Again?

[acoustic verge]

[sacred slate]

[acoustic verge]

Most people in here just troll

[delicate silo]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-yes-smile-glasses-smiling-gif-2265373269127069515

[acoustic verge]

@sacred slate come DMs

[sacred slate]

I'm a Cat, Harmless One

[sacred slate]

[pale reef]

[acoustic verge]

ALL IN

[pale reef]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[haughty cipher]

can anyone explain how monster domain points works

what gains you most points active players or strong players or what things

[neon latch]

[neon latch]

Killing the most

[haughty cipher]

kill who devs or what

[neon latch]

Sounds like a plan

[haughty cipher]

this event just doesn't makes any sense we have strongest we are most active participants within our matchup still getting rank 6-9 continuously each round

[acoustic verge]

[haughty cipher]

maybe we just missing killing devs part

[delicate silo]

Have weaker players eat traps, heal so you don’t die, use skills that increase dmg taken on structures to get them down faster. Also relocate your troops when you can instead of waiting for them to move on their own.

They slow and stupid.

[haughty cipher]

[neon latch]

For offense idk

But for defensive being active and decently strong helps alot with points

[haughty cipher]

are there these many things inside that thing i couldn't even find my march when i try to find 🤣🤣🤣

[delicate silo]

It’s how I say “hellllloooooo”

[haughty cipher]

how the hell dog tail got straight

it seems to be enjoying this

[neon latch]

@haughty cipher

You're in 2400s?

[haughty cipher]

[neon latch]

[haughty cipher]

i am still in 2025s

[neon latch]

No

I see you

[haughty cipher]

you can see people from past

[neon latch]

I understand why you have the .... name now

Youd get banned using your old name

[haughty cipher]

tf is this story bruh

[neon latch]

Wdym

[haughty cipher]

even i didn't knew about this much

[neon latch]

I found your old name through messages

You used to be naughty

[haughty cipher]

yea it should be MK right

totally dedicated to 2216

[neon latch]

@hybrid rampart shut up

Anywho

@haughty cipher

[haughty cipher]

is this you referring to

[neon latch]

Erm

No

You matched your name with theirs tho

[haughty cipher]

you made me false mention you gonna take the blame

[neon latch]

I got you

@drowsy agate you look cute today

@haughty cipher what server you on

[haughty cipher]

1547

[neon latch]

Are you lying to me 🥺

@lost jungle kartz update

How high are u now

[lost jungle]

1

[neon latch]

[neon latch]

Dont show me your 🎒

Show me big u

You beep😂

[neon latch]

3769

[wanton sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-troy-achilles-take-it-its-yours-gif-8286866

[neon latch]

[errant fiber]

is it time to put the navy shield/splash as my main over silence/debilitating

I have jester/shen for silence and Lila/stoic for splash

My indestructibles are ada and duke for navy

[neon latch]

Nah

[errant fiber]

Lilia and crimson was working great at the base for defense with crimsons heavy armor

And duke providing targets

[delicate silo]

RP legit the worst type of human.

[wanton sigil]

It's just the world 🌍 we live in. No one is good... No one is bad. All wanting best for themselves

[delicate silo]

Can’t argue that.

I just hope he stubs his toe on a Lego, gets diabetes and then ends up losing his big and pinky toe.

[wanton sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-pain-ouch-jamcat-gif-11280112679764529731

[austere path]

btrw

things not looking good for new navcy hero

i say if ur navy

go air

easiest way to beat the mirror match

[austere path]

anyways from my tests

king of ex3 is uh

jett-hiccup-babi/carnal

seems to win battles consistently at all battle lengths

[teal summit]

[austere path]

they both mostly tie to each other at most battle lengths

babi seems to deal a lot of damage cuz of the burns

and babi deals full damage at all ex so

i duno man

if ur small fesh i guess thats a march to go for

[coral jewel]

[austere path]

also

i might go hiccup 5r

😮

on my subs

[neon latch]

Miku

[austere path]

oh yea

[neon latch]

When you hit 350 ma

[austere path]

is there giftcode for this evenT?

[neon latch]

Ms*

[austere path]

?

[neon latch]

Sell me your account

[austere path]

not happening rofl

=.=

im stuck at 300 gg

[neon latch]

Aint you close

[neon latch]

🐋 🐳 🐋

[austere path]

since max release

i think

but i gave up after titan

[neon latch]

Dont think so

[austere path]

after titans

everything isnt worth it

skins...i cant keep up

[neon latch]

You used to be pushing ms

[austere path]

yeah

[neon latch]

300 still higher than mine

[austere path]

i just got all the deco sets

thats it

[coral jewel]

Weak

[austere path]

pushed me to vip 12 i think rofl

[neon latch]

All maxed?

[austere path]

1

some 2 from store

[coral jewel]

My ms is 6969

[neon latch]

Same as your weight in kg

Anywho

[coral jewel]

No my weight is 898989

[neon latch]

[upper shuttle]

So is stoick the meow replacement?

How much better is he?

[candid juniper]

you forgot to minus 202020

[delicate silo]

Why is everything Alan post about new hero’s always wrong, then when he’s called out for factually incorrect information or poor testing he locks the thread and deletes comments? @tender pendant

[austere path]

not looking good for stoick

hiccup is a bigger upgrade on tigress

than stoick over navy

[coral jewel]

[lucid mirage]

[lime pasture]

@modest ravine I never reacted to your posts because I’m a clinical lurker, but just wanted to say always appreciated your Professor Critic vs. “insert new hero” posts and found them useful - thought you had just left when they stopped 😅 but yeah just saying appreciate the hard work 💪🏽

[late jewel]

@cloud snow you hurt

[cloud snow]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-sad-neil-patrick-harris-gif-4266794468015626206

[wanton sigil]

https://youtube.com/shorts/W0vd0-gCMHg?si=A8LMjvU5Uaz3fNnY

[acoustic verge]

Garuda.... Fix your title

[acoustic verge]

Half of the video you are using the wrong matching queue

[wanton sigil]

Best game

[acoustic verge]

Very disappointing

[errant fiber]

What's the deal with the new toothless decor are you supposed to get to lvl4 or 5 before you can use?