#๐ฑโgame-discussion
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Miku is losing After 20 more SSR gets released lol ๐
eh
i love my army
quille-binary
worked very well
after massive testing, i prefered striker 70% indes over the other indes and its still decent. so quille2 may replace my striker
this frees up striker for i dont know
secondary army march
oh f me
there was this navy i kept losing 0%-60% with my air
then i use my army and won rofl!
Before was was was, was was is.
no i mean
i was killing trucks to test
so its just the same target where my air lost all matches 0-60
its navy
then i use my army and won first try
Miku is still playing โ ๏ธ
so no more alliance duel?
Ping me when there is max unbreakable
@dark lark i quit like a year ago
We can't post our permanent popstar base skin???
I know
Why they don't allow to put rune on sale for cheaper price
Who did it
Not me
In the TopWar post, it says we could post decors and popstar base skin but don't let me.
Anyone interested in tactical awareness..i will lower it Lowest
No one will buy DMG Inc/dec runes. Cheaper to buy them through catalyst
It let's you do it like 2 days after
Trust
Like what ๐ซฃ๐
2 Debi rune - 4k
4 Debi rune - 8k
1star Debi rune item - 6k
So itโs better to buy the item maxed out
Which means people who donโt have it maxed
Canโt sell xD
As it is 2k more expensive
@dim siren thank you
Returning to game ?
Sadly
Come ๐ซด play with me ๐น
Arenโt you still playing that whales account?
Official announcement of server 770 leaders and round table .
Thank you.
S770
Thank you everyone for the journey
We were planning to close 770 for a while due to the injustice from you know who . And the bad treatment toward us
We decided enough is enough
On behalf of server 770 leaders and round table . Thank you every one
If you guys did this a year and a half ago Iโm sure the game would have gotten cheaper
You return or cancel ?
Iโm gonna return for a bit cause boredom
Sadly wonโt be a whale since Iโm ftp but yk still fun
Just to let you know.. dynamic has changed lol ๐
New whale server are made
So server 770 is done . We will fulfil our commitment to our friends till last day and facilitate transfer . And by closing this chapter . I believe the developers of top was will achieve their goal which they were after . To finish 770
But โฆ we did it by our selves
My voice is gone but my words will last
Thanks to all whoโve ever been part of 770 family.
Thank you all,
farewell
Still 770 is 770๐ช๐ช๐ช๐ช
Words cannot express how proud and honored I felt throughout this era. Thank you to everyone. 770 was the best and will always be the bestโค๏ธ
TW will not be TW without 770๐ฅน๐ฅน
Thanks to 770 management and all the players for these wonderful 3 years together
๐ข๐
Omg
Closing of an legendary era
@proper roveryou are this goat who u think you are buddy !
@proper rover it was honor playing with you โค๏ธ
4*170 = lot of players
idk what will they do, all decision will comeback to themself
No more S770 . . .
It'll take time to see 770 fully sink, that server so stacked 
I have listed cheaper stuff. If someone needs. It was not allowing below this
Where did the MAF account go on S770? Deleted?
Most of us decided to retire
We are moving everyone out . We are dismantling it by our selves
So no worries
How much for this one minimum?Should I list it
well yes but moving 4*170 players out, surely takes time since transfer cycle have limits

770 will always be remembered
1508 is also on same boat.
After what happened with 591 835 851 , atleast they saved a lot of cash.
Now 770 .... Lets see what devs plan to build the community.
@dim siren ๐
And 2216??
seems like he needs lots of All-Out Surge runes
Why don't u quit and save lots of cash like them

He wants the leftover accounts lol
My commision stops from Dev's if I quit
I need to keep whales motivation for spending ๐ฐ
Check your bank statement $$ are debited not credited
Sadly you ain't getting any ๐
But whatever you have bring to 2222. I am building up my server
๐ I donโt care for a bigger account Iโm back just cause
My wishes you get 100m+ soon
I have changed server join limit to 170m
.all are welcome
If I get a 100+m cp account Iโll take it to 2222
@neon latch they are talking about making me hot ๐ฅ bring water ๐ฆ
He'll never accept anyone stronger then him in 2222
๐ Garuda get me a 100m cp account Iโll be there
You know the right people rp n jalad ๐
I already did
Ahhahaha
Check the ranks bro lol ๐คฃ
Iโm not buying a account
If they ain't applying how i accept
Never gonna happen


Glad you here 
Always here for you, beautiful

Say goodbye to bu ๐ฅบ
yang
Big batty clem
you buying in auction or what
No not worth it

๐
Your ass?
Of course
id buy that
๐๐๐

Please be in queue
Woooowwww
The devs abandoned this place so badly they are giving mods admin?
โ ๏ธ
@tender pendantsiaaaan
Hey Minich! โค๏ธ
But no, just doing some bits and bobsโฆ the role is temp
how are you โค๏ธ long time don't see you
Alright
Honestly! How you been? Where you at now?!
Where be Levo
Retired ๐
Lame
Like Yang
i'm doing very good, i'm on 2287 rn what about you ? how are you, where are you ?
Ayo
Come 2687 so I can smash you around the map
Since 770 gone
Checking out some other servers rn
Naaaaaa

Apart from 4domo .. i don't see any mod building servers. It seems They are mostly part of whales group.. what it seems from far
I heard you like 1668
Alan runs his server ๐
come on 2287 with me hihi
๐
๐๐๐
But Dev's aren't available on servers.
Mod are mostly busy around whale server.
I don't see who is actually building this community.
Or what is this community actually up to.
Is there a goal or mission... Or just to say good bye
And you bro, I have a while for tickets though lol and definitely not buying them ๐
hahah
Need 30 ๐
Iโm just keeping tabs on Sian ๐๐๐๐
Iโm not really tho lol just came to see if anyone was talking about 770 tbh
Actually if 770 + 2/3 other big server retire together.. it will be an impact..
But giving a breather like
591 then after few month 835.. then after few months 851
They will create 1000+ server in that time.. n earn money ๐ค๐ฐ to cover any losses from 770
Or any big server leaving
Yeah they will, and all us old accounts will be stuck in dead servers, they should allow us all to move up further ๐๐
Like here have all the transfer tickets you need, you can go to any server you like, good luck ๐๐
Not when you need so many tickets, it makes it hard ๐ ๐ญ
Malik continue to play ?
Account is in 3384
Yeah, I donโt know if it sold or not tbh
Hmm
Not sold
770 dismantling all of sudden was shocking ๐ฅน
Yeah, I was a little shocked to watch the video ๐ฅน didnโt see that coming
At least $6500
Where can I see the video?
YouTube
This
Sorry to jump to conclusions, but what Is the reason for giving up 770?
What now
dinnoooooooo
Helloooo
how are youuu
770 discord
X100
That HP ruin is so good ?
Gooood
I didn't think so, but clearly someone does ๐
I am just sad to see that 
@bright knot I recognise your name but canโt remember where we met ๐ซฃ
here maybe and in game ofc
It was like AD chat or something I think
a long time ago then haha
Yeah ๐
Hurry home from work
Still got 1h 10m to go
Damm
Do we get to hear your voice today

No? Alright cool

whats the chances of this being bid on
Donโt think itโs that high
gotcha
Although
That def is juicy
The rune isnโt a big hit I think
You can always try to sell it
See what happens ๐
I personally donโt have a double def tg sooo
Pray ๐คฒ
You are buying from auction house?
2500 is so high for being the lowest starting price
Nah Iโm gonna sell as much as I can ๐ but havenโt logged on after reset today yet
I think so
I kept all at lowest only.
I tried to lower more. Didn't get option

thats what i did as well
N topwar is asking 5% commission from our sales lol ๐
Im coming to kick your A$$
They could not get over 1112 winning against them in svs I guess ๐ซฃ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Mergers tonight and still no list from TW. Come on man
they wont give any list, they only do silent mergers for the dead dead servers
You have burning privileges on yang whenever you want
Can you share with us after merger...
Just want to know for reference what servers they are actually mening merging
THNX TO ALL 770 players โค๏ธ๐ซถ๐ป, am not from ur server but i loved everything u guys have done to this game โค๏ธ๐ซถ๐ป
I see
They had enough, they played for +5 years
Also, the game keep going to the opposite side ๐๐
But they aren't quiting because they played for 5+ years
There some different reasons
Does anyone know if alliance battle is coming back? ๐
They are cuz they have real life things to do and its not fun anymore
To much time and money needed for the game
Bruh Ken and Dosar tried to fix the game and Ken mentioned that many times but no one care topwar to finalwar or lastwar whatever is the new game
Its Sad to see #1 server for years wont be the same
You can't fix any game where devs don't listen
Thats a fact, tbh i want them to contact me via WhatsApp and its been 7 months nothing happened
But they are there whenever u see new events and money drops
Im a vip16 with no privilege ๐๐๐ Shame
Oh the reason is they are short staffed and they will get back to u ASAP but its been 7 months ๐๐๐
As long as thereโs a saga or a mo, the game is functioning as intended as far as RG is concerned. Only interested in making game have wider appeal when there arenโt players spending infinite amounts
Difficult thing
I have a wonderful wonderful group of people at 3051 that what keeps me going on this game
They have the new game too and its the same freaking Ads ๐๐๐
Soldiers going right and left and u get frustrated how they play it
And its a hook ๐๐๐๐๐๐
Be careful guys ๐๐๐๐๐
๐ฟ๐
@normal scarab @wanton sigil 
If all the whales get together they could spend money on to build a better game then TW
Wow congrats ๐๐
Lucky ๐โโฌ๐ค
God damn for real?goodluck to you guys,the best server ever and thank you for everything๐ซก.

look at auction house ... the only 2 bidders are .... yes right ... saga and mo. It's privat auction house for this 2 players. There is zero interest in reality. Lot of players will sell, but there are no buyers anymore. Except for steel torent, unbreakable, all out of surge runes which one of them collects ...
I see topwar losing 300 odd players this week
sadly TW controls the market
Dopamine is such crazy thing
if TW didnt then everyone would be happy and the prices would be better for all
People have a sense of achievement
it would be ยฃ400 for a rune
Which keeps them going on n on
they lost control ...
more like ยฃ40
How much two players alone can buy lol ๐คฃ
And they are fighting to buy against whom lol ๐คฃ
They are spending like crazy
100k coins + from flaming
Crazy to do what
hey Garuda ... Sandable records ...
Exactly there is no competition...
mo has more than 300k coins in at the moment
They just be an world boss
Mo has old coins.. on account
That's understandable he spends
But saga must be buying fresh
saga has not so munch in at them moment
But who they are competing with.. that is fun to watch
i think it will be last auction house ... when only 2 players buy anymore it makes no sense anymore. btw ... prices are munch to high
I think ๐ค maybe Loco or diego.. can't see anyone else.
On 3 types of runes you see a bit .. always same player ๐
Yes we don't have any rush for these..
The gap between players is so so so much..
It's just crazy..
You can't fill these gaps easily
N Dev's demand for money is very high to upgrade n fill the gaps.
Anyone trying to stay competitive.. is spending 10-15 times more what it was in 2023
Does anyone know how I can exchange these blue tokens?

@wanton sigil Day 4
Monster domain stuff day 1
Wow the game looks very different


Throwing power core everywhere
Now they want everyone to get morale lol
@pale reef hi
In 341 dont have this
Itโs being tested on select servers now
Warrior is sharing it with us so we can see
@mental star kinda. But a mathematical error gave 3604 third ๐
so why you lying and claiming you got 1st when you came 3rd ?
Because There was also an EL before this
TA1 TA2 EL New World -> join the rest of the servers in big event planning
The info just doesnโt include the most recent EL
Bit disingenuous is all
No ๐
Iโm willing to bet 90% of servers make their server look nicer than it actually is in those ads ๐
Oh mb
3688 was cut off point ๐
Youโre on too many servers I canโt keep track
Just slow to update the ad. But it says up top third in the one that ended now
So, disingenuous ๐คทโโ๏ธ
You are expecting Total authenticity in a game which works n lures on fake ads lol ๐
... you know what, fair point ๐
People can put whatever they like on there server ad
Along as it follows the discord rules
For sure
Just thought I was being helpful pointing out that I thought they had a typo ๐ญ
Noone is take .. account
No pluto is 111m
Oh yes. You are right
Donโt tell him, let Garuda think heโs correct
This is take yeah
๐๐
Don't join him ๐
Too late warrior is my guy

Official announcement of server 770 leaders and round table .
Thank you.
S770
Gg watch
Sweet Jesus, who made this hahahaha
@frail zinc watch this
If you listen ๐ you mind goes la la la la .. haha sound of 770 ๐ค
Once I seen aul Morgan say 7 hundred and 70 I knew to turn it off
Maybe you like this one more
Try it
Now thatโs a video ๐ช
They made a video ๐
Omg
Garuda made them
He played there once
Left his own place for them
Morgan Friedman speaking about 770
On the Graham nortan sofa also
๐
4
6
๐คฃ๐คฃ
๐
8
How are you?
Hello
which game is this ?it looks fun๐คฅ
@normal scarab
Thank youu
๐๐๐
Has there been any more news on the merger of servers
Do you have a list of the current meta heroes?
Check out hero combo in game
Bro forgot to put the the loss against 1112
What is that video ๐
Morgan freeman literally paid actor
Paid actor
๐
โ0 mistake policyโ ๐

That was the most unprofessional answer ever...
I'd ask for more moon
Seems you were super inactive and back to discuss transfers and 770 retirement .
Haters will say 1248 old member ๐
Who Sanji reject ๐
Hello Irishโค๏ธ
@pale flame did you forget your baggage in 1248?
Bro I donโt even know who you are
To be honest I donโt care to know
Must be a 770 simp or something
Am stranger ๐ you donโt know me and i dont know you
Really?
Why do you lie ๐คฃ
๐คฃ
You are so famous player? ๐ซฃ
Did I claim that?
Since you like to take screen shots
Show me where I said I was famous
Na bro I donโt care who you are
We talk about you not about me ๐
Yeah the mane fits you well tbh
Oh thanks
Nah bro I did not catch you an ugly girl with braces did
She didnโt catch me as well๐
Hey ladies. ๐
What's about it?
๐ค๐ค๐ค
Whale... of WHALES. ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
FlaminMo personal store
He is the most feared player in all of topwar ๐
Got a real doooosh on my server. Created a small account just to place forts in our way, and just stole our organized popstar.
Now we have a random level 20 rebel with a 30 day pop star
Pretty sure it's Mocha, feels like something he would do
Is this the Revenue Store?
u dont want to buy stuff for like 4K? ๐คฃ
I just donโt wana touch his stuff
valid point bad
what you looking for bad, i may have what ya need
770 joining 591, 779, and 835 in dead whale servers now? M7MD (191M) is not his name... and more of them transferred out
Yea 770 dropped some video saying farewell
Idk why tf theyโre all transferring tho lol

Oh you lucky duck
๐ Tw lost a major money source because they don't know how to do matchmaking ๐๐คฃ

They are dismantling 770
Navy guys/gals come buy my stuff
I think my is to expensive ๐คฃ
Delist
Why not
That's the lowest tw will let me go๐คฃ
Its ok, just wish for the best๐
I don't know ๐
Why you dont know ๐
Is the auction worth doing
I mean I feel like its a money pit and you won't win anything
good to sell in
come buy some runes. got flammable and armor breaking as well
Buy my unbreakable rune

so that's at least 4k coins
yea
if someone actually buys them, this morning they were being bought by saga and Mo
if you aint using them then sell them
i got 8 runes up rn
9 if you include the one on gear
i want to use them but looks like throwing a few away for the bp is ok enough
is this insane? lol
yea i just figured, too many peeps listed at 2k
I have them listed and no one is bidding ๐
Why is it you can switch between ruins to hit a bunch to make the game unbearable but you have to wait a time out to collect from them. 3883 is a dumpstar fire and I wish transfers would open early.
just burn him, idk
He's our whale and a terrible person, 75% of the server want to transfer asap.
Would anyone pay for this? ๐
happens to a lot of servers
Yea ๐
yes
For like what? 2k? lol itโs listed for 6k
everything is 2k
sadly ppl arent buying magnet runes much this auction
no
RUNES
I bet 6k is the minimumโฆI listed a TG similar and the minimum was 6k ๐
Oh that sucks then ๐
Auction house is oversaturated now
Are magnets overrated now?
no
You want mine?
How much?
Depends on the price I could do between 2500-3000
Sry i have 1
Np
But Magnetiz 3
Is online ๐
I have mine listed if you want ๐
looking at the value of these titan
@reef peak
does this mean i should buy that $25 box thingy
titan choice?
~_~'''
i havent been buying it since launch and since they upped the price and i cant be bothered but
if i can sell it and convert it to 6000 pts and buy so many ex shards
Problem is no one is buying them ๐๐๐
Its been messed up for awhile
Eh idk
Only 2k per rune ๐

Maybe I should just spend only titans blessing
I'm trying to sell mine lol
Nawww... ๐ฅน
yea im selling mine too
no takers tho\
i want ex shards
wait
so if i have 20 subs
i can โค๏ธ my own items?
now we have a flat price for this
40000/648 * $100
$6172...isnt that too cheap?
only $6k?
only 500 in the shop though
why would anyone pay $20 for a titan
and $400 for an effect
if its $6k for 3 full stars or 32 effects?
๐คทโโ๏ธ the world is weird
its literally 2625 pts for a single run
rune
and 25,000 - 40,000 pts for a full 32 runes?
logic 404
500*25
well
its a good place to sell
if anyone buys it.. i can get more ex shards and ex7
25*500 = 12,500 ex shards
Where to find merge information?
So when does TW realize nobody is really going to buy anything in auction lol, and I feel like HT chips would do better anyways with more variety in stats
no bro
i saw lots of steals
24,000 pts for 32 effects (dmg inc 40%)
this is insanely cheap for whale standards
it cost $200 for 1 effect
u need 32
64 given 50% drop rate
so u get 64 x $200 of value
for 24k pts
3/3
Tell him to buy three lottery tickets
hacker stufff
Only, but first you need buyers 
The minimum listing prices are very scam
I would list runes for lower then 1000 if I could
Why is it TC again
tf
Vivid army said TC and realm this weekend
Yes
Mostly all of us would have listed correctly in easier prices
We are not greedy like them
That would be the other 99.99% of players...
Login to your account. It's offline
Why not at least make it 1 purchase for 1 rune equal, it would make more sense
must be for a reason
But who am I to be a developer
el matchup should have been like this
My lvl 10 kat and diana beat that WZ easy
@faint zinc leaving 2631 already 
I thought she was the leader
kind of enjoyed a pretty laid back el ngl ๐
That's my Warzone every week...
put server into auction
I texted you on capital
yeah, I read that but forgot to reply
I have memory of a goldfish bot

since 770 is dismantling don't know where to go next?? any suggestions
Yes ๐โโ๏ธ come with me
We play n enjoy n repeat ๐
i can jump only 1 time so has to sure
If you looking for a whale whale
Then 2687 3384
thx garuda 2222 is it i keep it on my check list
Mine is just a normal bloated server with lot of old players.
whales are whales not sure i can join them even i want to their req. may be quite high
We have 3 months of transfer... No big events.. so all can go i think
3384 - min intake 150 players before next big event lockdown
Similar for others
1951 3145 ... Also good options ๐ธ
whom to contact them for transfer
I think just message on capital chat
ok my msg. few of them (including u 2) and see where road take me
And 913๐คญ
Come to 913
Garuda will leave 2222 for big events๐ ๐
913 is still alive??
nope this will be my final jump then i am done
Else above are safe options for minimum 18 months lol
What's there n 913?
Hehe yes 
I was a leader for 2 days๐
You should have only one number in mind.
Don't ditch for years like a Goa plan lol ๐
More than what people believe
When joining me?
Let 913 dying
So soon
Never say never....
Contrary to other players and garuda's beliefs
Look at 770
2631 getting too whaley? 
As long as we have @covert reef we refuse to die
@vital kestrel is spending hard in 2631
If he quits I am not sure haha
๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
you put server into the auction?
Server running on one player die faster lol ๐
That's why always a plan .. server shouldn't be build on one person
Join me
You join me!!
Old pfp awesome
I invited you first!!
I can leave my Love
Old? ๐
Should I send 913 DC link then @trim cipher ??
I don't stay on DC Servers ๐ ๐คญ
Marvel then๐
Wolf ๐บ
When you buying big account garuda??
I am waiting for you to go whale mode again
Buy malik๐
Ok ๐
I am F2P
I would love ๐๐
I want to be 150m+
Malik is best bet
This is one of my favorits

Reflects my soul ๐
Auction House is private party .... hundreds of poeple try to sell to 2 customers ๐
What is Work?
I clicked all buttons.. couldn't find any other buyer
I dont like to ho home empty hand
I am poor
Gotta work to earn daily
Dang...
yeah ... starting prices are munch to high ... i think was last auction house now ... then stopping
Like they killed EL before ... now auction house is on death end ...
and then they will change coins against gems .... ๐
AND hold back 5%
Nah not really
Its good here tho, i just have some reasons to leave 
Yea, the price was too expensive, so none buys it
except MO and saga ... to max out their 8th and 9th march ...
oh, good luck sis 
Thank you sis
so you keep staying in 1677 until qey gets enough tix?๐
Alliance duel?
Dead
why?๐ฅฒ Heard some server will be going through merger?
Idk. I'm not Dev
yeah, guess i will be, or maybe i wont move anymore, i have no idea ๐ i felt lost at the moment, 1687 imploded just before EL, my friend isnt there anymore, just tiger. for now im only moving my big acc and alt to 3199
it's on a unsaved preset
you can just equip it on a saved preset instead, on a hero
to change the icon
How to change
Check on your presets, if you find it equipped in one of the preset, unequip the gear then save the preset again
Leader is a always a leader
Ooof sad to hear about 1687. Ah you go to stormโs server. Wish you the best 
Nah we dont count that one
You need 2 more pieces for recycling
Itโs equipped on one of your presets
there is server merge ?
Good morning Jelly.
weird, i dont have this mail
This has been a topic since El ended ๐
yeah just checked again all the mails during 16th
nothing for me
phewwww
i don't want a server merge at all
๐
It was a nice journey meeting everyone here. It was story that started with s591. Ended with idk s2***
Thank you everyone. 770โค๏ธโ๐ป
me? what? I'm deaf blind

Not bad ๐
bro it is bad
Yea thatโs hot cheeks ngl
Terrible
I got 2 golds
Ass
๐

Syns grass
High five
Where?


nothing new for you tho


True. I experienced it for a whole hour yesterday
you spent one hour with yang?
#PlugginTheYT
Never heard of em
I didnโt sell anything yet ๐ญ
1 hour? We used to spend nights together
Until he betrayed me
Blamed me for something I didn't do and blocked me

some rando

Ahh. Understandable
You kiss randos?

Anywho
@normal scarab
Enjoy work today

@sick grail
All I got right now
@mellow eagle
Thanks
more short videos on this pleaseeeeee
damn
@gilded glade @stuck temple if anyone of your friends wants to buy +40% dmg and navy gold refine 4% on one I can sell cheaper for your friend
There you are cutie
I wanna get rid of this piece a S so I can buy some stuff
how much friend discount can I get?

34K maybe
If it's for Kenobi I go 30K
But I wanted to have Mo buy it for 38K to help a pal out
I found an obvious BUG in Jett.
It is in the activation of the ignition after the ability. The percentage of application of the ignition is completely wrong, calculating it on the 9 enemy troops, this happens less than 2% of the time.
I didn't understand why Jett's damage was always so low compared to Abad (both in pairs and as a replacement), so I tested a formation without ignition runes and without ES to check how many times the ignition was applied (I specifically used Asuka, Jett and Duke) lowering the attack as much as possible in favor of defense. In this way only Jett applies the ignition after the ability. The result was this. Obviously there is no comparison with Abad who applies it 100% of the time and makes Jett a lame hero and only a support for Abad.
I intended to bring him to ES7, but after these tests, he is absolutely not a hero to take into consideration if the problem is not corrected
if you put Asuka with Jett in the same team, you have intentionally lowered your Ignition damage
look, Jett's ignition damage is increased ONLY when the ignition was triggered by the traditional way (when it's enemy turn, before their normal attack)
Asuka's mechanic is triggering Ignition with her skill, without waiting till the enemy's turn. This will make Ignition triggered early, and lower the damage stacked mechanic from Jett

You are actually right, the new ignition is only applied if the target hit already has ignition... it becomes practically impossible to calculate it
huh, is it?
if the target doesn't have ignition yet, they should apply Ignition on it
it works like Binary's mechanic
yeah
basically, to optimize the Ignition damage, don't put Asuka/Abad with Jett on the same team
this is for the Ignition damage only
if the general output is better when you combine this combo, then you should just ignore the Ignition damage
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servers weren't with recent EL
im f2p
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