📱│game-discussion

[sacred slate]

DF >>> Whales?

[ancient ruin]

for reference

Kartz dmg ranking in Chinese server and international server

The top players still have gap

[stiff galleon]

3588 looks strong

[ancient ruin]

They reorg and try to fight with 3051

3041

[stiff galleon]

Reorganise from 1082?

[ancient ruin]

Other servers besides 1082

[prisma nova]

why did he take concon's photo but put his watermark on it

[ancient ruin]

He said from his friend in international server, maybe concon is his friend

[reef peak]

Wow

[prisma nova]

do you have a link to his post?

[rocky hornet]

Thnx i was looking for that one. But there is another pic showing a guy from 3588 surpass chen or i couldbe wrong

[rocky hornet]

We good people at 3051 😂😂😂

[rocky hornet]

Can you find us 3588 and 3041 top individuals ranking 😗

Like the top 25-30players

[ancient ruin]

If you could open the link, you could find it in ranking

[rocky hornet]

Its in Chinese 🥹

[ancient ruin]

Doesn’t matter, you just search 3588 and 3041

the players’ name are all Chinese

I think you will confuse by them

3041 has 51 players in top 500

[signal ledge]

@ancient ruin please don't post any unapproved links

[ancient ruin]

And 3588 has 31 players in the list

[rocky hornet]

Oh okay. And as i mentioned those Chinese server don’t have the depth to compete

[ancient ruin]

Sadly can’t share the link

[rocky hornet]

Only top 10 players are Mega whales the rest it’s whatever

[ancient ruin]

That’s long time ago

Not now

In my opinion, 3041 is stronger than 770

[rocky hornet]

On the top 50 there were only 7-9 from 3041

Not because of the depth or activity, its because of the Mega Mega whales like chen and the others

[slow pagoda]

787 exists ?? It was merged or something

[ancient ruin]

Some days if have SVS between these two servers, we could watch their fight

[rocky hornet]

Idk could be, but i saw that number on their profile page so I assumed they play there

[swift kiln]

so rude, i'm just a random netizen

[rocky hornet]

Can u see 3041 top individuals ranking ?

[ancient ruin]

3041 has huge mega whales

[swift kiln]

depth is overrated except in TC

[rocky hornet]

Thats what am saying only these whales can make the difference

[stiff galleon]

211m now

🐳

[swift kiln]

bro i cant

they all same frame

🐳

[rocky hornet]

Still 10 of them like any other Mega server but they are stronger in the top 3 players

3384 has that number and 770 and 1508 2687 especially the march cp except chen is a step ahead everyone

[stuck temple]

There is no intl server with 12 top 50 intl players. Let alone 12 top 50 players in Chinese rankings

[rocky hornet]

SAGA is heading that way too hes 193M

[ancient ruin]

The list of 3041 top players

And Chinese server doesn’t have fake cp players

[golden wharf]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ancient ruin]

All are solid

[rocky hornet]

I know but still its their top 10 that are the problem the rest is like ever whale servers

FlyPig u will be famous now many people will contact you to know their stats

And asking for pics

Poch don’t slide in his dm plz 🫶😂😂😂

[golden wharf]

How to fight? I am a whale that is unique and has power in every id. I instantly became just a little dolphin.

[stiff galleon]

Hahaha

[rocky hornet]

Nemo 🤍🫶🤍🫶

[ancient ruin]

Poch you are a mega whale

[prisma nova]

@ancient ruin thank you, he actually references a lot from concon

[rocky hornet]

He’s a whale

And A mega one

[stiff galleon]

Our players is not whale anymore

[ancient ruin]

Don’t be shy

[stiff galleon]

Can be orca

Group to win those whales from 3041 or whatever 3588

[golden wharf]

Orca is worse than whales

[stiff galleon]

🤣

[ocean karma]

His stats are pretty similar to Chen’s. The march cp diff comes from march size mostly

[rocky hornet]

Don’t forget last time 2216 won against 3041

[stiff galleon]

Better then dolphin poch

[stuck temple]

Chinese servers likely weaker than intl mega servers after the top 20 or so. But the top 20 is too much to overcome in any current format the game offers. The gap between mega whale and regular whale and regular player is too big

[ancient ruin]

That’s why Chen brings more whales to 3041

[prisma nova]

TC format is already very advantageous for cn servers, coz it doesn't require depth.

but they still lost

[stiff galleon]

Chen recruit server to join not only 1 or 2 specific players 🤣

[stuck temple]

They played good strategy, focused on meta game and let the Chinese servers beat up on each other, and made deals. In 1 on 1 they wouldn’t have been able to win

[rocky hornet]

Thats what i was trying to say. But fee whales on the int are getting crazy too so its gonna be interesting to watch

[stiff galleon]

I am happy we actually won last time

👍

[golden wharf]

I won because their underdogs weren't good enough. But now it's different. I heard they're going to focus on Masters 2.

[rocky hornet]

We don’t want master 2

Its a BS event

And ofc TW loves these kind of event

[ancient ruin]

They want to revenge

[rocky hornet]

If its 20vs20 or 30vs30

[ancient ruin]

And we can’t stop them this time

[rocky hornet]

They will win it if 3041 win with 3588

So 3384 or 770 or 1508,2687 wont have a chance

[stiff galleon]

For svs if it is 770 vs 3041 I think we have chance

[rocky hornet]

Last time they made a mistake letting a weaker server win with them

[prisma nova]

If TC they wins, but UD nah

[stiff galleon]

For tc 770 is not strategy enough like 2216 before

Ud top war gonna go breakdown too many server lol

[rocky hornet]

Lol 770 went against 2216 and 3 asian servers

😂😂😂😂

How come u want them to win 😂😂😂

[ancient ruin]

Can’t understand 770

[acoustic verge]

2 Chinese Server

[golden wharf]

It's not that we can't win. Every team has weaknesses. We have to find them. Master 1, I still beat them.

[ancient ruin]

In practice vivid city, their rank is also lower

They have so many mega whales

[rocky hornet]

2216 won cuz 3041 made a mistake

[ancient ruin]

Around 4 solid ervers

[prisma nova]

Except 3041 each CN server has only 1 alliance, if need to fight in 20 battlefields at the same time, they gg

[onyx basalt]

@reef peak

jelly do u know exactly how titan works?

i can try do the maths

[stiff galleon]

Basically from this list we can know they have quite a few strong solid server

3041 3588 1082 晓英 stay at top

3588 looks very same like old 2798

Bunch of whales gather to play big event

[latent sand]

Titan what ? Gear?

[reef peak]

Which effect? Debi?

Same hero debi = no stack
Different = stack

Active skill rune = more chance on same hero

Enhance runes = strengthen the effect on same hero

[golden wharf]

I was at the event

[prisma nova]

@ancient ruin this is copy paste, right? He should cre for concon, rather than watermarking himself and not mention the source

i will ask concon again if he shared it with anyone.

[acoustic verge]

Not 100% right

[reef peak]

You help Miku pleaseeee

[acoustic verge]

With what exactly?

[golden wharf]

I'm in the process of doing something right now to fight them. There's still tim

[ancient ruin]

I just read it from the link, doesn’t know the relationship between them

😂

[onyx basalt]

wait

more chance?

not double?

so for example

[reef peak]

Multiple debi runes in the same hero

[onyx basalt]

if i use three debi (2 x 30%)

its MORE CHANCE to deal 2x 30%?

isnt chance linked to activation of main skill?!

[reef peak]

Yeah that; miku is asking his question there

[onyx basalt]

if i activate--> 100% chance to deal 2x30% debi right?

[acoustic verge]

You'll apply 6 stacks of debilitation

[onyx basalt]

can confirm?

jelly?

6 stacks?

so if activate-->100% chance to deal 6 stacks of debi?

[acoustic verge]

Debilitation can't stack per source BUT each gear counts as individual source means if Layla has 3 max impact runes she'll apply 10 debilitate effects(except if her trigger hits the same target multiple times)

So 4 from active skill

• 6 from runes

Which will stack

[onyx basalt]

different gear = different source?

[acoustic verge]

Yes

[onyx basalt]

so u can get 120% debi?

gear1,gear2,gear3, layla

on the same target?

@reef peak dont run

[acoustic verge]

Layla only gives around 15%

[onyx basalt]

so 15%+30%+30%+30%?

aka is 55%+30%+30%+30%?

and if, say, i run three heroes, all with full debi gear

55%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%?

[reef peak]

Wait wait I can’t keep up anymore

Let’s talk with Ryba’s idea first

[onyx basalt]

yea basically

u got three heroes

[reef peak]

I need to read this again and again

[acoustic verge]

One sec

[onyx basalt]

layla, X and Y. all run 3x gear

so u got 10 source of debi

so does that mean u can debi 55%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%+30%??

[reef peak]

Onay how about this, Zhen with full debi runes. What will happen please ryba

[reef peak]

I can’t answe this Miku hahahaa

I don’t understand

Usually ur the one explain things for me

[onyx basalt]

basically

what happens when all three heroes run 3x debi runes

AND u got jester and layla in it

so 10 sources of debi

jester debi buff

[acoustic verge]

Zhen will have 6 debilitation effects (2 per different sources) which means against wb she should apply 3 effects because 1 target...

[onyx basalt]

lets say u fight boss so one target

all effect activates

[acoustic verge]

Just to explain how stacking works

[onyx basalt]

does this mean the boss gets 55%+30%x9 debi?

then calculating for jester debi x1.5

55%x1.5 + 30%x1.5

then for each hero that has debi +X% effect, calculate only for that hero?

[acoustic verge]

Don't think it has max stats

1 stack per source

[onyx basalt]

there are 10 sources

[acoustic verge]

I got my credits in there

[onyx basalt]

any whales dont wanna test?

kum on

just run 9x lv2 debi

u should have tons to spare

if u got 18 maxed damage decrease/increase titan

it should be obvious if the total debi is 55%, 200% or 500%

also ur right. if debi stacks like this its gg

^　the situation

[acoustic verge]

Don't speak Japanese (I think that's Japanese)

[onyx basalt]

just look at the pic

basically running full debi

and layla

and all three activate, what happens?

[acoustic verge]

Okay

[onyx basalt]

do u get 55% debi? 200% debi? or 500% debi

if all sources stack infinitely its 500%

if its max 3 its 150% or 200% ish

[acoustic verge]

Different

[golden wharf]

The difference between us and China

[gilded glade]

this is vulnerable rune

[acoustic verge]

If you have 2 stacks 15% debilitation, stack 1 reduces damage to 85% and stack 2 takes the new damage value and reduces it by 15% = 72.25% of the starting damage

[crisp lynx]

Saga is the stronger now?

[golden wharf]

Today seems to be a little better.

[acoustic verge]

@onyx basalt

[golden wharf]

He's an alien now.

[crisp lynx]

[onyx basalt]

im 100% sure thats not how it works

cuz i can test it right now with 3 debi heroes

if u run, aka + layla + bell

the debi is additive

ie it becomes 55% plus 15% plus 35% debi = 105% debi

hence ur damage, A, becomes A x (1/(1+1.05))

or about half

[acoustic verge]

What my sources said

[acoustic verge]

At one point damage would become negative with your logic

[acoustic verge]

No

[latent sand]

Sensible discussion... sensible language plz..

[onyx basalt]

look at the maths

u will never get negative damage

A x (1/(1+debi%))

if u got 1000% debi, its A x 1/11

[acoustic verge]

Ye

[onyx basalt]

same as dmg dec and def

[acoustic verge]

Wrong

[onyx basalt]

it runs the same formula

140% def just means damage becomes 1/2.4

[acoustic verge]

According to my sources

[acoustic verge]

Not arguing about DMG or def rn

[onyx basalt]

so if u got 500% debi, 500% dmgdec, 200% def, its just A x (1/6) x (1/6) x (1/3) which is still positive

anyways the question is the same tho

how much debi

50%?100% or 500%

if 3 hero all activated debi with full gear

[acoustic verge]

Not how Debi works

🙄

Lot more complicated

[onyx basalt]

so test it?

we need a test

its an easy test as long as u got spare debi

run layla ,X,Y with full debi Lv2 equipment

and fight 1 stack vs 1 stack

and wait till all three activate-->see what happens to the enemy damage

enemy damage is full damage potential x (remaining stack/full stack)

so catalog final damage, remaining stack, number of activations

[acoustic verge]

Do it yourself please

[crisp lynx]

Both wrong 🥸

[exotic trail]

They Will gather also server too and if It Will be a International ud we also became their faction i guess

[acoustic verge]

[crisp lynx]

Noob

[acoustic verge]

No u

[crisp lynx]

🙂‍↔️

[teal summit]

Top or bottom?

[fair shell]

Bottom

Does hero order matter other then active hero skill proc order?

[onyx basalt]

yes with abad and quille

and asuka

u want DOT always last

status always first

[acoustic verge]

You mean if hero order does other things except proc order?

[onyx basalt]

hero that apply status first, hero that benefits from status last

[acoustic verge]

No

[fair shell]

Yeah

[acoustic verge]

Don't think so

[onyx basalt]

so think cream wants stuffs to have status, so u might wanna put it later. but layla applies status so u might wanna do it first

[dense wind]

If heroes have the same active skill activation rate (Nelle and Binary for example) it does matters

So if you have heroes that benefits from the activation of others, i recommend putting the heroes that helps others first

[onyx basalt]

nelle is like cream. u wanna hit stuffs with status, so nelle later. quille applies status, so put it first

[acoustic verge]

Yes, but Damien asked if there are any other effects

[onyx basalt]

abad wanna hit stuffs with status (and reapplies it) so put it mid or later

[dense wind]

oh

[reef peak]

Soooo

[onyx basalt]

sorioumm

[reef peak]

Do we have conclusion ?

[acoustic verge]

Abad first

[onyx basalt]

u got spare debi from ur $ escapades?

[acoustic verge]

Nelle first, quily Last

[acoustic verge]

Because quilys mags are applied after normal unit hits NOT once he triggers

[dense wind]

About this, Quilly's magnet skill is passive, so independent of order it always applies first, so on this case it doesn't matters

Well

[acoustic verge]

Except if you are attacking Leon or snake army

[onyx basalt]

we were discussing

[dense wind]

Actually it does because if Quilly active hits kills one stack with magnet you're going to lose that damage

[onyx basalt]

multi debi

[acoustic verge]

Nelle/binary first

[onyx basalt]

this

what if u got 10 source of debi

how much will stack

1, 3 or 10

[acoustic verge]

10

[onyx basalt]

just need a test

if ur normal atk is 1T, what number does it become

500? 200 or 100

[copper knot]

How come did my score is still zero while im donating?

[sick grail]

New faction 🤔

[onyx basalt]

u got taken over?

:3

[copper knot]

I already 7 of these thing and still zero points?

[onyx basalt]

any reason to want nelle activate before heroes apply magnet? i feel like uh

[wind rock]

Does anyone know what's the use for ultra enigma crystals?

[onyx basalt]

if u got 3 heroes and all run full magnet

i want nelle to activate last

but meh i dont know tw logic

or is it that normal attack-->quille magnet-->hero 1 magnet->hero 2 magnet-->hero 3 magnet--> first hero activation--->second hero activation-->third hero activation?

i got no magnet effect to test

but i imagine if magnets always happen after the specific hero activation i still want hero that benefits from effects (nelle, cream) to be later

since 1) the other two heroes can kill low hp units before nelle activates and 2) u get the most magnets aftera a full clear

[acoustic verge]

Normal attack > quilys mag > binary trigger > binary magnetic field runes > marvingt trigger > marvingt magnetic field runes > quily trigger > quily magnetic field runes

[acoustic verge]

Same goes for Abad on airforce so you can clear effects before the stacks reach cap

[onyx basalt]

so using that definitely later is better right

at the end of turn there is no magnet

so if nelle goes first u missed everyones runes

[acoustic verge]

Binary doesn't trigger on every slot = time to build magnetic pulse effects

Which results in way too many magnetic pulses

Binary is not like Abad to hit all 9 slots

4 = less than half

The only scenario that would be bad is your first unit hit

But the other 449 hits it'll help you

Not talking about wb

[onyx basalt]

dunno. i feel like a situation that happens 100% of the time at the start of the turn, is better than a chance to solve a situation that happen a small % of the time

ie: its better to solve these problems from the start (clearing magnets) proactively

[acoustic verge]

The same reason for crimson or Zhen to be BEFORE Layla or Ada

[acoustic verge]

If you disagree on that... Well I can't help you

[onyx basalt]

i think we just have to agree to disagree. imo, i prefer B over A every time

since A = almost all the time u waste ur first green circle

while B u always have black sticks

followed by nelle

[fair shell]

....after this response I'm worried about asking my other question 😆

[onyx basalt]

oops

[acoustic verge]

Just ask in DMs

@onyx basalt please continue yapping about marriage and divorce

[onyx basalt]

i think most people here know already

[acoustic verge]

You don't get my point

[onyx basalt]

hehe

[acoustic verge]

There will NEVER be NO MAGNETS

And usually there will be way too many

[acoustic verge]

Nelle or binary... Neither of them can hit 9 slots with 1 trigger

[acoustic verge]

That fact alone makes every aspect of your argumentation illogical

[faint zinc]

Fight fight

[crisp lynx]

Measuring it in public is not legal

Ban

🥸

[stuck temple]

Binary / Nelle both target magged stacks

[acoustic verge]

What?

[crisp lynx]

[crisp lynx]

Im gonna fight you 🗡

[acoustic verge]

If you have 9 slots of your opponent full of mags do you want binary to trigger first or last?

[stuck temple]

Last

[acoustic verge]

Which will happen with 3 max magnetic field runes on 3 heroes

[acoustic verge]

Even if the magnetic pulse limit is reached on all slots and Marvingt/quilys mags will be wasted?

[stuck temple]

Reaching the mag pulse limit is functionally impossible

Idc if you’ve got 9 pieces of gear with maxed mag field

Never happening

[crisp lynx]

Just teasing

[acoustic verge]

Why?

[faint zinc]

Lesgo

[fair shell]

All 3 heroes putting 5 mag pulse each on each slot is never happening

[stuck temple]

5 per stack per source is not happening

[onyx basalt]

btw, super random, but i just found the Los Angeles Fire Dept DEI Orientation Video o.O''

[stuck temple]

Maybe in the end game

[onyx basalt]

no wonder stuffs burning over there

like bases during UD

[wintry raptor]

Anyone know when new servers in TA1 will get binary? Right when out?

[crisp lynx]

🥊🥊take yours

Or you prefer popcorn and watch them argue?

[faint zinc]

I’ll take the popcorn

[crisp lynx]

🍿🍿🍿

[acoustic verge]

Sorry back now

[acoustic verge]

True

@stuck temple which order are you using them?

Marvingt/quily/binary?

[stuck temple]

Quily before binary. I don’t have mags on Marv so her order is irrelevant

[acoustic verge]

Well I missed wz

Bbl

[acoustic verge]

Well you can argue better than miku

Cya ✌🏻

Need to do dailies

[meager lake]

Where is the chat to find people for legendary squad?

[normal scarab]

think it’s gone now that the event isn’t on for everyone who’s playing ED

[meager lake]

I see some servers from 2000+ in there tho. That's unfair

[normal scarab]

There’s 3500+ servers in ED, so the vast majority of servers is participating in ED

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[crisp lynx]

[radiant hill]

[wind rock]

Does anyone know what's the use for ultra enigma crystals?

[lost jungle]

level pet up

[trim cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-8615365348820385795

[faint zinc]

[swift kiln]

[crisp lynx]

[latent sand]

Level unlock your mine

But if your in a faction and is unlocked they have no further use

[violet cape]

Guys shall I use striker instead of duke with Quily-Binary combo?

[trim cipher]

[simple wadi]

Which one is better?

[crisp lynx]

[crisp lynx]

I like more the one you already have equipped

[simple wadi]

Got unlucky

[crisp lynx]

Improve to 10 to see the other 2 buffs

[swift kiln]

should be of same value, but right looks better, especially if no other chips has atk spd

[simple wadi]

Double DEF? My first one in playing 4 years lol

[tidal wyvern]

yes

congrats

[simple wadi]

Nice 🙂

[tidal wyvern]

nice rolls too. sweet

[crisp lynx]

Really nice, congrats

[simple wadi]

🙂

[mystic elm]

weak

not even 30%

[crisp lynx]

Its +50%

[fair flax]

grats 🧘🏻‍♂️

[fair flax]

I’ve like the same but dmg

[swift kiln]

😂 😂 😂

[sick grail]

That's a centre chip.

[fiery plank]

Sians fault ?

[crisp lynx]

Yeah my brain got bug 😂

[wind rock]

So wait to use them until the event is over?

[sick grail]

How will you use them if the event is over 🤔

[wind rock]

Those crystals were coming up since before the event

It says "increases Enigma beast experience"

[mystic elm]

what you laughing at??

😡😡

[wind rock]

There three sizes whole, large and small

[fiery plank]

Its to use for lvling ur pets

Read the frickin answers above

💩

[fiery plank]

Like he replied instantly after u

@wind rock

[wind rock]

Too fast for me thank you

[wind rock]

I have used a few and don't seem to cause an impact. How does it work please?

[trim cipher]

🥰

[wraith cliff]

Am I stronk or what

[fair flax]

u are stonk

[wraith cliff]

Not enough it seems

[crisp lynx]

Whaling 🐳

[trim cipher]

Yeah you

[wraith cliff]

Hi vanguard ur still here 🫶

[acoustic verge]

How about you?

[crisp lynx]

Yeah ill be i guess

[crisp lynx]

[wraith cliff]

Almost got u beat

[acoustic verge]

[crisp lynx]

I think i have 200😂

[wraith cliff]

I do 2 5x hits a day and that's it

Just to do my challenges

[crisp lynx]

More whale = more inactive

[acoustic verge]

[trim cipher]

Cutie Whale 😌

[trim cipher]

If not i slap you

[crisp lynx]

[trim cipher]

[simple wadi]

Does this carry over as it is less than 30,000? I don’t see it being mentioned

[trim cipher]

Its not EL 👀

[fiery plank]

Sooo ryba when u gonna use them cause after wave 60 u can’t use them anymore

[late jewel]

Buy everything up you'll end up getting tokens again from wednesdays fight

[fiery plank]

Doesn’t reset anymore

[short plover]

Who does Marvingt replace in this lineup(if anybody)?

[undone grotto]

no one

[short plover]

Okay thank you

[undone grotto]

left or right

[undone grotto]

marv is for the magnet march of army

striker is still soild because of his skill of sharing his dmg to the back row

[short plover]

I probably should’ve asked first instead of using my gold shards to level her up 😭

I appreciate the help

[bold sandal]

Right

[undone grotto]

hmm

[violet cape]

With Binary now striker is better than other indes heroes, this is what I see in Tmi video

[fair flax]

i want one air hero broken like the old maximo

🕵🏻‍♂️

[wraith cliff]

@fair flax which solo is that in #1

Is that the one from 868/591 or a different one

[fair flax]

yes yes

868

amazing guy👍🏼

[wraith cliff]

Alright was curious. Tryin to figure something out

[fair flax]

You know him?

which server are u from?

[wraith cliff]

I've met him before, during el

[fiery plank]

Neither

Solo broke his word to me 😆

[swift kiln]

laughing at you paperdummy

[wraith cliff]

There was 2 different solos

935 solo and 2641 solo

[fiery plank]

Nah it’s the one in 2641 😆

[fair flax]

935 its indian

[wraith cliff]

Ah yea he was in 868

[fair flax]

2641 american

[fiery plank]

He broke his word in that SVS 🙃

[wraith cliff]

935 solo quit and gave his account away

[fair flax]

wdym

[wraith cliff]

SirX has it now lol

[fair flax]

lol really?

who’s sirx

[wraith cliff]

Used to be in 822

[fair flax]

gg

[fiery plank]

He hit me twice with his main and burnt me in the second one because I didn’t repair 😭

[wraith cliff]

Then went to 935

@hexed elm it's going in ur chocolate pocket if u keep it up

[hexed elm]

don’t threaten me with a good time.

[wraith cliff]

I always knew u were a lil fruit cake

Erm

[trim cipher]

<@&667607304300134430>

[fair flax]

🕵🏻‍♂️

[trim cipher]

[fallow herald]

Who does Vivian replace (if anyone)?

[acoustic verge]

Starscream

[fallow herald]

Thank you!

[fair flax]

Work to replace also max with abad

If u can

[acoustic verge]

Abad old

Meh

[fair flax]

Works good anyway

idk if hes f2p

[acoustic verge]

Yes I know

@fallow herald you low budget/f2p?

[acoustic verge]

Marchsize says f2p

140

[crisp lynx]

Noob

[acoustic verge]

Redlightmassacre 2 says snitches get stiches

[trim cipher]

You should Help me

[crisp lynx]

Ask me

[trim cipher]

Help me?

[crisp lynx]

👀🗡 didnt got it

[crisp lynx]

Yes but in what

[trim cipher]

My Game 😁

[acoustic verge]

Good

[crisp lynx]

Not good, what you mean

[crisp lynx]

Of course 😂

[acoustic verge]

Music

[flint tulip]

when is abad replacement

[crisp lynx]

I dont know then

[acoustic verge]

Kk

[crisp lynx]

Mean

[acoustic verge]

No

[trim cipher]

😊

[acoustic verge]

@crisp lynx okay you write me an explanation of apocalyptic endgame and I'll explain my message above

[gilded glade]

he did well

[acoustic verge]

Bad name

[crisp lynx]

uhmm idk what i have to explain 😂 im noob

[acoustic verge]

30 minute music video

In German

[crisp lynx]

Im lazy

Too much

[acoustic verge]

I've something better

[fiery plank]

Lies 💩

[crisp lynx]

Really? What is it

[acoustic verge]

1h27mins

But it's about goats

[gilded glade]

he did what I couldn't do 🤣

[fiery plank]

Still can’t 🤣

[gilded glade]

shhh

round 2 in few weeks

[fiery plank]

Ill be ready for u, but do it early fight not near the end 😆

[gilded glade]

I'll try to sneak in

[fiery plank]

Haha we can exchange hits depending on what 770 wants 😆

[gilded glade]

lets not discuss this part here

[fiery plank]

😂

[gilded glade]

or I won't be able to sneak in

[torn wyvern]

Hashis?

Weěd?

This is petroleum directly to veins 😂

[wraith cliff]

Dudes old asf and isn't very relevant

[raw kindle]

I want what he’s having😂

[fair flax]

when neutral city

[latent sand]

No bug. Can't weaken it until level 61

[acoustic verge]

You mean after?

[latent sand]

Until. After

[sage patio]

Next round.

[fair flax]

1/12?

[sage patio]

Not sure if it will be Saturday, probably it will be, but I don't see it now.

[fiery plank]

U cant weaken it after 60, u can before but those lvls u dont need it 😆

[fair flax]

You’re against 3453 soon

me in 2 round

[fallow herald]

I don't have that one

[fallow herald]

Mainly F2P. It's an alt account

[acoustic verge]

Kk

[slow pagoda]

What happened to main acc

[undone grotto]

Where is his main acc

[acoustic verge]

Was fun

[undone grotto]

Dam

[acoustic verge]

[summer nacelle]

Someone didn't see the sun today

[acoustic verge]

I did

And it was bright

[onyx basalt]

they deleted EL/EL 2 years once

so all those vit potions are now mostly worthless

unless u can burn 1000 bases per ud

then maybe vit stock can go down

[lofty solar]

Good evening

[reef peak]

I have been saving vit can for a year as well

Now have to burn them all in baking

[summer nacelle]

Are you sure it wasn't just a mirror?

[onyx basalt]

the only way to burn on baking properly

is to have a good cat

~_~ its just too much now

[raven ridge]

All es5 I run po and Leon should I use Stryker or marv have both perked and as es5 also ?

[teal summit]

Marv

[lofty solar]

Marv

[solid tundra]

👀

[lapis fossil]

Hello guys. I playing this game in my phone, during my phone is charging, i want to play that at my facebook. Is it possible to connect and continue the Data game from my phone to facebook desktop ? and how ? ... cuz i have connected the facebook account but when i click game in facebook, it's a new game, no any loaded data game from my phone

[onyx basalt]

@reef peak bro still unsolved

no one give clear answer yet

probably need real tests

bsaically if u got 9 runes

1T damage becomes 40B, 94B or 270B or only three runes activate

[sage patio]

You can play on your PC by using web versions: https://h5.topwargame.com/h5game/index.html?campaignid=discordgl

You will login with your facebook credentials that you use on your phone, but you probably will have issue with starting new character, so you will need to switch to original character by using settings->manage charater option. Check this guide about the new character issue: https://discord.com/channels/648871024250716180/1172237787785871410

[golden wharf]

[stuck temple]

What is the question

[onyx basalt]

what happens when u run layla, and two activation hero

and equip 9 debi runes

and all activate

on the same target (ie: boss)

[trail surge]

I don't understand

What is that

[onyx basalt]

what happens when u run layla, and two activation hero
and equip 9 debi runes
and all activate
on the same target (ie: boss)

what happens

^

[trail surge]

So if i have many debilitating effect equip, it will stack up?

[onyx basalt]

we dont know

it needs to be tested

thats the question

[trail surge]

Some players use impact+debilitate on layla/duke/ada

[stuck temple]

Gimme a few, I’ll test It and give the run down on how you figure out game mechanics like this

[onyx basalt]

okay

run layla+po+asuka or something

give them 1 then 4 then 7 tunes

fight the boss

then monitor the boss damage to your unit

if u dont have many

i suggest 1 then 2

[safe musk]

Any one suggest me

[ancient ruin]

Push all 10 first, then go to one 15

For cpnt, your air is for pvp

That’s good

[stuck temple]

Baseline damage, no deb

Layla + 3 max impact

Layla + 1 max impact

So

3 max impact + Layla yields a 65% damage reduction.

1 max impact + Layla yields a ~45% reduction roughly

Moral of the story, more impact runes = more stacks = more dmg reduction

[summer nacelle]

The geek of his house

[sacred slate]

does this applies for debilitation runes that enhance the passive skill for heroes that provide debi (Duke,Ada,Layla) 👀

[onyx basalt]

will read this in a bit

[mikuguide]

btw, what is "max impact"

is it debi effect x1.15

or a chance to deal 2x30% debi

[stuck temple]

Max impact

[onyx basalt]

all level 2?

[stuck temple]

Yes all max

[lost jungle]

any debi effect improve used?

[onyx basalt]

wait a minute

rofl

[stuck temple]

Yea i had 2 30% debilitate runes on as well

[lost jungle]

ok thanks

[onyx basalt]

bro can u add three heroes and do the same thing except spread out the debi?

its gonna be abit harder

but

i think i already have a baseline

[stuck temple]

It doesn’t matter. More runes = more stacks

[onyx basalt]

yeah but across 3 diff heroes, is the way it stacks the same?

if its the same

yea debi is broke

all march should just run debi

~_~

[stuck temple]

If it stacks off one hero, why wouldn’t it stack across multiple

[onyx basalt]

maximum (max:3? 6? 9?)

magnet and ignite has a max

[stuck temple]

Guess max stacks is ~11

[onyx basalt]

ok

btw, layla debi si 15%?

[stuck temple]

Oh wait no. Has to be like ~9 or 10

I guess Duke in magnet line has highest potential

[lost jungle]

there's debi from HT chip too, saw War used them except while/pink HT or something

[stuck temple]

Layla is 15%

[onyx basalt]

do u have

0 impact?

and 2 impact?

seriously the maths doesnt check out

i cant get the exact formula out

[stuck temple]

I couldn’t get a good read off 0 impact. Only gave 0 debilitate, 1 impact and 3 impact

[onyx basalt]

because

base 8.17T

layla only = unknown

but layla + one impact = 46.5% reduction (seems logical?)

but add two more impact, 66% reduction (8.17-->2.83)

each impact adds 30% reduciton

my "guess is"

[stuck temple]

Ya, they have to be normalizing / indexing somehow

[onyx basalt]

either it has a floor at 66% ish reduction

[stuck temple]

Otherwise damage would go negative

[onyx basalt]

or, max : 3

so 15%+30%+30%-->cap at 66%?

this is why knowing 0 and 2 impact is important but

i think its enough test to show that, just running impact runes without layla/dook, u can get free indes type of reduction is kinda broke

especially if u win wfac/rof

[lost jungle]

don't forget, he also used improve weak 30% x2 too

[stuck temple]

Debilitate is broken

[onyx basalt]

improve weak?

whats that

urgh

u guys need to tell me these things

[stuck temple]

I had 2 of these on

[onyx basalt]

ok so

layla effect x1.6

15%-->15%x1.6

30%-->30%x1.6

[lost jungle]

it not directly reduce % base on debilitate is my guess

but somewhat close

[onyx basalt]

okay

is layla EXACTLY 15%?

or some other number

[lost jungle]

bad layla probably have more than me

[onyx basalt]

buffed by ex?

[stuck temple]

16.4

[onyx basalt]

ex7?

[stuck temple]

Ex5

[onyx basalt]

so its 16.4% x 1.21

ok

i squared the exact formula

well, out by about 1-2% but..

basically, debuff runs a base damage x(1/(1+red%) formula

similar to def and ddec, but separately calculated

so a 35% debi is not a 35% reduction but a "original damage x (1/1.35)

so, the first debi fro mlayla is actually 32% debi (16.4%x1.21x1.6)

and u add impact (30%x1.6) = 48%

so 80% debi

so original damage x 1/1.8 is about 36% close to 35% actual (2.83T)

adding two more runes, its 32%+48%+48%+48% debi or 176% debi

hence original damage x 1/2.76 is about 56% close to 53%

[stuck temple]

I’m not 100% sure but I assumed it worked something close to this

These numbers aren’t quite accurate clearly

[onyx basalt]

yeah i thought so too

but if u think about how much debi is after all the buffs

16.4% layla gets x1.21 from ex, and then x1.6 from the rune

so its 38%

30% debi also gets x1.6 from rune so 48%

so if u use that formula with 30% and 48% the numbers will go crazy low

<1T

anyways

there is only one thing left to test

do the same experiment with 6 runs and 3 debi heroes

XD

aka + layla + bell on defence

gg

basically, whats the maximum stacks u can go

but my gut feel is that even at 3 its a good mechanic

and justifies 6 or 9 runes

[violet cape]

@onyx basalt hey Miku, do I really need to swap my duke with striker in the Binary-Quily combo?

[onyx basalt]

u can test in tutorial, but if it was me ill do it

cuz striker only works in this march and maybe counterattack march

dook works in anything

[violet cape]

In tutorial it really gives slightly better reaults

[onyx basalt]

striker is like a 70% indes hero

but very very low damage

dook is a 50% indes hero but very high damage

so when ur other two heroes have super high damage output, striker becomes better

[violet cape]

And no encirclrment right? To increase hp of back row

[onyx basalt]

non

g2g pkmn

[violet cape]

And miku Binary ex5 is a must?

[wanton sigil]

Finally last bond also completed. All hero bond finished😁💪

[onyx basalt]

mathematically

binary is about 5% stronger than nelle

purely from the 95% vs 90% damage up

[reef peak]

Oh you still don’t have conclusion ?

Honestly I didn’t make test, there are other experience players told me so about the debi runes

I also saw their battle reports

Debi runes on AF’s ignition > Ignite runes on AF’s ignition

With atk spd chip, you can multiply reduce opponet’s atk at the very first beginning

[onyx basalt]

basically, debuff runs a base damage x(1/(1+red%) formula
similar to def and ddec, but separately calculated
so a 35% debi is not a 35% reduction but a "original damage x (1/1.35)
so, the first debi fro mlayla is actually 32% debi (16.4%x1.21x1.6)
and u add impact (30%x1.6) = 48%
so 80% debi
so original damage x 1/1.8 is about 36% close to 35% actual (2.83T)
adding two more runes, its 32%+48%+48%+48% debi or 176% debi
hence original damage x 1/2.76 is about 56% close to 53%

[fickle turtle]

So we figure out what level 7 exclusive is better to have quily or binary?

[swift kiln]

binary ofc

[fickle turtle]

Worth it to only have her 7. Quily 5 and striker or Duke at 5 as well ?

I can get the next new army ind to 5 whenever that comes out as well to swap out Duke

[swift kiln]

yeah, binary ex7 is where the big upgrade is at

well, maybe, depends on your stats

if you aren't already a whale the ex7 might not help

[fickle turtle]

Ok thank you 🙏

I’m doing it

[spiral patrol]

dms poch|| help ||

[fickle turtle]

I’m almost positive battle reports don’t reflect the detonate damage from the magnetic pulses on her damage numbers

Some correct me if I’m wrong please but it looks like they detonate a lot more damage than what’s shown.. 🤷‍♂️

[swift kiln]

That's very hard to verify

No one is going to watch a replay for hours and hand calculate whether or not each dmg numbers are logged correctly

[fair flax]

How’s ur % dmg

?

[wooden roost]

What does all heroes war increased lean

Mean

[reef peak]

on the bottom of hero screen, you can press on "war" stat to see

[valid belfry]

هاي

[wooden roost]

Thanks jelly

[unreal slate]

UD prep event was better than the real thing

[mystic elm]

that is what she said

well hitachi not ud prep

[unreal slate]

Is that an even coming soon?

[mystic elm]

she said 'hitachi' was better than the real thing

[swift kiln]

Paperyapper, what do you mean

[faint zinc]

[gilded glade]

he's high

[high harbor]

Hitachi is better than akai 👀

[mystic elm]

[mystic elm]

yeah im 2.3m high

[gilded glade]

[swift kiln]

wtf haha

[mystic elm]

stop replying to my messages please you weirdo 🛑

[swift kiln]

as you wishn't, papercutie

[mystic elm]

as big as my dmg 😏

almost

[mystic elm]

🤮

im defo not cute

to be fair my grandma told me im prettiest

may be she is right

[swift kiln]

what a beautiful paper you are

[sacred slate]

you should believe her

[thin wind]

Paperpanda x babypanda in 2025???

[onyx basalt]

if u got infinite money

i say ex7 everything

go ex10

if u dont have infinite money/...well

i just buy $1/day for ex box and im giving up soon haha

T_T

the EL skin is $100++

$2 x 90 days

[sacred slate]

$1/day for exc skill box?

where u buy it miku? 👀

[swift kiln]

think he meant the decor shard box

[sacred slate]

or in some particular events that release those boxes?

[onyx basalt]

i mean

during those events

[sacred slate]

Ohh

[onyx basalt]

when its deco shard i skip haha

only ex box i go $5+$1/day

[mystic elm]

why play topwar if you dont have infinite money innit

[onyx basalt]

tc/svs/ud is fun imo

even without inifnite money

[swift kiln]

oui

tru

time to quit

[mystic elm]

i mean what is life without infinite money

[sacred slate]

eat,sleep repeat

[mystic elm]

i loaded life in hardcore mode unfortunately

how do i restart?

[swift kiln]

i ask the same question

[onyx basalt]

ur from US right?

living in US = ultimate easy mode

[swift kiln]

here we go

[mystic elm]

how can i change difficulty to easy?

[onyx basalt]

just work in McD and u earn as much as doctors in africa/asia

[mystic elm]

not really

us has one of the highest gap in the poor and the rich

[onyx basalt]

in asia., the challenge is should i pay 10 cents a cup for nescafe or 12 cents a cup for nescafe gold

in US its more like

$10 chagee or $15 starbucks

[mystic elm]

if you are born poor in the us, its probably worse than being born poor in the rest of the world

[onyx basalt]

its super easy mode

as long as u dont drink coffee u got like $45 x 30 free money\

[mystic elm]

happiness is relative

[onyx basalt]

oh

and dont divorce.

or marry. thats gg 100%

[mystic elm]

if you are born in a country full of of happy people that is more happy people like in the us

you will feel less satisfied with your life there if you were born poor

[onyx basalt]

better poor in us

as i said

mcD workers earn more than doctors

$20/hour

[mystic elm]

not really

[onyx basalt]

easiest life in the world just flipping burgers

[mystic elm]

but its your opinion

and youre entitled to it

[finite marten]

Hellow

[sacred slate]

you need to consider the Living cost to yknow 😂

[sacred slate]

Hi

[mystic elm]

exactly

and if you are sick

us health care is among the worst in the developed world

[sacred slate]

Instant Broke

[mystic elm]

[swift kiln]

[mystic elm]

i heard that if you died its expensive there too

[swift kiln]

dont get sick or hurt or die in us

[mystic elm]

people there cheering for the murderer of one of the biggest health insurence company ceo thete

that should give you an tiny idea of their health care and insurance

[sacred slate]

I mean if u sick and broke, better die in that spot

[mystic elm]

true

[onyx basalt]

uh

just work?

if u work u get work insurance coverage right

[sacred slate]

eventually you either die chasing with debt or with your illness 🤣

[mystic elm]

you think if you are flipping burger you can afford insurance and health care?

and you think its that easy to claim the benifits?

company will come up with 10000 excuses to not give you the claim

[onyx basalt]

employer benefit

[acoustic verge]

Just move to US and tell us

[sacred slate]

Us and tell us

I'm out!

[onyx basalt]

yeah. found many youtube videos of large familes on only 3-4k usd income

so it should be super easy

[violet cape]

I have impact rune, shall I use it on Binary to apply debi during triggers?

[sacred slate]

well you can do that but its not the best way to optimized those runes

[reef peak]

anyone here own the Pink HT ?

[tender pendant]

@torn wyvern

[violet cape]

Best way is to use it on duke together with debiliate rune right?

[sacred slate]

Yes

[onyx basalt]

um if ur running both

then yeah

but if ur running as much debi as possible just use everything u have

[violet cape]

What do you mean?

[onyx basalt]

use the debi weap runes on hero that has debi armor runes

and has the highest activation rate ig uess

or has debi up buffs

if ur talking about army march none has it anyways so prioritise higher activation rate heroes

[violet cape]

My army is the best force and impact rune is sitting in my inventory for some time, that is why I am thinking to use it on Binary

[onyx basalt]

use it on the hero with highest activation rate then

go check sandtgable replayhs

[sacred slate]

It'll be troublesome if u face Jester regardless 😅

[violet cape]

I also have armor breaking and searing but I guess impact is better

[sacred slate]

Impact is good

[torn wyvern]

Yes

[violet cape]

If I need impact on other gear in the futute I can swap it to a useless armor and recycle to get that rune back, right?

[trail surge]

Last ad there were weakening, but it went missing while having no update regarding this

[onyx basalt]

u lose the equipment i think? gotta ask someone who $$$$$$ at the game

[trail surge]

No weakening

[tender pendant]

Jelly needs your help princess 🥹

[torn wyvern]

Ok

[tender pendant]

@reef peak

[torn wyvern]

But she didn’t help me so why I have to help her

[tender pendant]

She’s super helpful tho 👀

[violet cape]

When I use impact on Duke, it applies 1 debi from his active skill and 1 debi from the rune right?

[torn wyvern]

Yeah, yeah, she is. She’s telling me about the stores , I have to help.

[reef peak]

[torn wyvern]

Feel free to text me my dms are open for you ❤️

[reef peak]

oh I got thanks Nemo

i'm trying to get some graphic for my next post

[torn wyvern]

Okay

[acoustic verge]

Good luck

[violet cape]

Anyone knows?

[onyx basalt]

lol?

so whats the point of all the missiles

[acoustic verge]

Points

[ancient ice]

ain't Duke suppose to

• debili enemy Pos789 1 hit , +1 target
• randomly debili enemy on all Position 1-2 target by rune's star

[ancient ice]

missile = score booster

[reef peak]

uh anyone knows why I got a Heavy Armor here ?

my march is Jester + Zhen + Duke, blue HT

[ancient ice]

dunno , I think it's HT fault or simply wrong graphic display (it possible)