#📱│game-discussion
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no need just imagine a 173 ms vip 1 peasant innit
then you send a single HT also me dies lah
😂
Ok
I don’t understand your comment in YouTube
770 ? Video
Yup
Yes his gameplay skills is high
Check at 10:50😂
Im better
You are better than everyone bro
Thx
Morning 🖐️


red ticket: 1430
free GS: 1132
date: Sep 26th
average: 0.8 shard/ ticket
50 green ticket + 1430 red ticket = 1m2 AD point
it's a event reward for top players
oooohh next week event
gem gift + deep sea
power drill 3k
It will not have. The one you need
Which one do I need?
@sage patio check my work here
wow. it's more than Lilia injected Golden essence 620 shards
(1.0m duel pts)
When it will be closed?
Expecting October last week
Once next big event is announced
So another 3 transfer cycle
Yes you are right
Many people who planned 3500+
Will be stuck haha 🤣 or they should move now to 3450+
Limited seats
So we will get 3384 permanent.. confirm.
If it's big event Many will want to go to organized server
So let's see what will happen
30 seats
Last time they gave one day to move in 3rd cycle so might end up lucky
770 2216 1668 1508 2687
Highest grossing
securing a seat in organized server is a Game in itself.
another layer above topwars universe
Just be whale and team player. 600+ DMG .. mostly will accept 😁
my my ... 600+ dmg+- without overpowering titan gears = all decor lv5 + all skin in hand
I passssssssd
Honestly 1508 took me as f2p so much less than this requirement same for some people i know I'm just hoping they will get some big whales to balance things for them
if I remember it right.
moto is one such that kind.
he chose various debuff runes instead of 6-star DMG runes
Why they want always to jump and stay in support zone?
True
2687😂
That's right just checked two of his marches
They will grow also 2641 if they got time
Kaza one ❤️
As 1545? Grow fast - fall fast?
👆
maybe some other servers who knows
True Story 🤪
@burnt horizon Look how fast 779 Fall apart 😂
No 779 was in top long time
👀
Yeah i know but Look how fast all the people Left
it consume exorbitant Fund and Opportunity to spend fund
just to reach stat 5000/5000/600/600
if these stat being treat as basic requirement to participate in next grand event.
it's already an international wars in a kind.
I told @wanton sigil that he didn't believe it
In the minute whales leave it's over
So now that Mehl, Expedit, GK, me and a few others are out you want to svs them?👀🧋
Stay in top for that long time as 779 did its hard
I'm on 1668 😇
@reef peak i need flowers event when its will release?
1508 👀
You moved ?
Don't you have like your 139th alt in 1677?

True
Yes
No those are Foxy's accounts
Just my name
I see

seasonal sales ?
should be week after the next week
It's sad 😢😭
People don't have patience 😞
Everyone just wants to be rank 1
Or everyone just want to leave before the ship falls
It's sad to see everyone leaving so instead of waiting you try to leave before them
@reef peak
I wish so, last time they had it
1052 & 1172 👀
Look at the market 😂
Massive whales can't sell for 10k
Lucky Dosar 300k
What a steal
Mods or devs?
Who you aiming at here?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are our medium 🔉
She wants to mute you
Target you as you the communicators
Nah me innocent 😭😇
After rubes gone..never spoken to a dev. Literally
Why i sold mine in good timing with good price
She's gone?
Yes we got Lizzie and team. Helping and working for game development
The best time was after UD1
A lot of people were excited about what was coming to the game
People who left game after UD 1.. . actually saved a lot.
And took a good amount of money
With this logic people who didn’t play TW saved a lot also😂
Yea it's like smoking 🚬
People think non smokers will be richer. Haha 😂
1 base skin per month
Now 3 per month
Nemo you saw how many decorations the released in the CN tournament
🤣🤣🤣
6 in a week
3 base skin
One decor bundle.
One big base extension
It was overwhelming
Yes i buy them all
This is not healthy
There was 3 base decors
3 base skins and tones of decors
And this asșholes make decors in spins to pay 1100$ and get it lvl 5
And there's no competition 😁
It's not about buying trust me.
It just increasing the gap.. between players..
And this gap is happening.. not because someone is inactive.. or not playing...
Just because... If not buying...
Over a time.. gap is created is fine.
But overnight...things changes.. n widens the gap.. it's crazy
And there was 2 decors
Since it's only 5-6 servers in the game
Medium volume?
Medium to communicate
Where you find 5-6?
I would do it if I wanted to 
Name the servers which can give yours a good fight
2216 and Ali with Anco 😂
Not even 1668😂
What's the point of buying and playing if I'm playing against same players
And 2216 planning killed MBB
Beat 2216 3-0?
So now no ones can do a good fight to 770
2216 still can give good fight
They have couple top accounts
MBB left M join them
I played in both servers
770 didn't have big trouble with it
Poor planning
M isn't as MBB
In 2216 or 770?
But M plays and MBB still in the top
770 doesn't need a plan
Definitely does but people are so used to the plan there now
Uh you know you leave one month your ded ?
He is still very strong bro 😂 i hit him i know he is still top acc
Plan is easy when top heads are winning
I have seen in UD.
All our plans were... Robin take care of this .. and it worked haha 😂
Only works to a point, when you have 770 VS 2216 just saying to 1 player 'take this' doesnt guarentee a win
It worked against 835 n 1432 haha 🤣
They both dead ..
770/2216 are build too much
But 3384.. if actually holds what they building
It can challenge them
how to get ruins, i'm new, ty
Easy for 3453 those who keep jumping all join them
Do 50%+ damage.. Once the ruins shield is down. Look at timer on ruins
Then they can have a fight with those strong server
There's too many who always jump
It's rare. But see 🙈 what happens in future
@tender pendant
Yes please. Wait for timer
And hit then
ok, ty fyi coz players don't stop telling me to take ruins, but cannot actually
They both should collaborate with 3384 to build one super server
It's a feature.
It happens automatically haha 😅
Ignore those notification
is there a gift code actually ? and how to notice it?
3384 doesn't need them
#🤖│bot-spam
ok ty
But actually those jumpers
Sometimes things that they do is quite ok
They gonna keep jumping so they not accepting anyone to join that server anymore
Just their own gang
Or else when newcomers joining and realise they are all leaving to a new place again 😂
835 was faster
they go to twz only to be another merge fodder for 770 or 2216?
They are stronger 😄
Do you think 3384 gonna be fodder to 770 or 2216😂
More like they gonna join 2216 and take their position
you mean still having fresh money stock
Fresh whales bro.
Spending 💰 n running hard
that saga acc is basically at the same pilot generation as ancor's
Everything new is stronger in topwar.
first pilot quit then next pilot also have fresh money
New account got stuck in pets
pets depends on the old stuffs
Accounts who have 1 strong march for example
so just buy all already
SAGA is just ASAN with karahan account 
both spend big
Still fresh blood
Account is 2800+ server
tw need to bring them to a hell event to drain their money before they quit 
not enough events, need more lmao
We have that dice 🎲 thing coming soon for sure lol 😆
I know those whales have ecountered Karahan and Asan before 
Who is this guys🙂
New whales.
Korean Whales 
it's just another ancorlon type, such a new meta
even flaminmo also using the same meta
Don't compare with Ancorlon
Anyone else notice the rapid decline in activity in Topwar 🫣
it's the same thing:
buy a big acc, spend big for the next 4 months, then die
I was thinking Korean whales are in 770
Seems no
those are retired korean whales
Isnt Motto Japanese? 
TK , Rolls Sky
this one is new korean whales with retirement funds funding the acc
He is
wait for 4 months and see them both at 770 in the end
4 months this game dead 🤣🤣🤣
Will see
sadly it won't die that fast lol
so many still spending big, topwar is totally fine tho
Lol😂
both 3 are big whales for sure but SAGA is on a diffrent level 🤣
Like Istanbul?
Saga is highest defence in topwar
It’s gonna be 2 whales at the end Anco vs Anco 💀
Impossible 😂
Asan buy karahan account and now name saga
hmm... close. If he keep spending he could beat him 😂🤣
Highest defence in TopWar is WAR from 3041 😂
Asan own account is Jerry account
I'm already bored of "this someone is on a different level/universe" only to be burned by a f2p ancorlon, always the same plot like that
How much though
In GM event he had 310% defence
Which server you play?
If you ain't spending big just go mm🐳
bring him down to twz then he can be counted as an existed pixels
And what is your in game name?
I mean... that account can survived when facing prime 2798 
otherwise he is just a random name that will join 770 soon in 4 months
😂😂😂
Trolling lol
and then what? 2798 is now 770
At the end everyone will join 770 😂 and we will have KE
I’m an og from 613 now on 2797 I quit spending last EL so like 6 months f2p
in the end, this new whales are just 770 new engines. there is no worries 😂
2797 not bad their korean 🐳
You guys realize some of these “ whales “ are not real players right .. multiple bot accounts
tk is not even original 1248
This game will dead sooner if everyone just join 770 2216
It’s a great server everyone is kind it’s a good environment
and then... Karahan quits, Asan buy his account. SAGA was born 
top servers are merging each other already for survival, not for power bruh 
Yes just don't only 770 or 2216😂
People should be looking for retirement servers with good environment for end play
retirement servers --> 770, 2216
Ya I have a few friends from there all good people
2216 more like retirement
stable, always win 98% rate, and get bullied by @torn wyvern
770 is still full of fighter
still not many at 2216 level.... yet 
new whales will appear soon
and the cycle keep going 
since BOL is coming up soon next month, the betting matchmaking will be so easy
Because they still have mbb amtk and now m porch too
Ya
2216 1668 770 already have 3😂
ALL IN 770 
I been playing since first year of game activity is WAYYYYYY down
x10 multiplier all in
the game will stop if players stop to spend 
BOL's top group gonna be absurd, surely 2216 and 770 gonna have at least 3 squads in that group😂
lmao
?
@trim cipher
I never played against Irish but last SvS i really was proud of him ❤️😂 he is one of rare whales who is ready to fight with any price . this makes respect him
Brooo

Princesssssss



@tender pendant
Hi Ryba
Now in svs, mm gets points through construction of facilities and use of potion 🧪
Just hope the construction points is not like 100 points or so
😅
Maybe the mods can get us more info on the updated points system for MMs 👀
No can do, we find out the same time as the players
But I would assume there will be a release on it within a bulletin soon
Full fighter? You mean the 99% accounts who can't compete with a whale like every server or the bots/account shared for higher strength?
770 needed to recruit 2798 whales and 1248 to hold first rank lol.
Hi flower Sian
BOL the legends TC?
Hi non-flower boy
Dont need nitro I dont think, its a seperate thing
But yeh, doing ok
How are you?
Been doing great! Found a new hobby
Have a good day Sian I'll see you another time. Lunch break is over
Yes
Thanks for spending real life time into helping us , here a 90% skill shard compensation to own a level 1 exclusive skill of your choice
Oooo I need that. I need 4 shards left for the last skin
Devs still outsmarting players with 1$ rewards for hours of work and community investment
Got to tell me about this hobby when you have more time
First descendent - Hailey trailer
Surprised devs haven't asked players to share all the data mined Intel for everyone to learn how to play this game
Oki back to work, take care Sian and everyone else
+1
Wow
😂😂

Tw has their favourites
Guess again
11%+7% def, 2.5% di, 22% hp
They love me haha 😅
Interessant…just wake up from 4 years without playing in some place I don’t know…no one there, I’m the only one…😀 server #992 and I believe was not where I was before. Finally I’m the king!!!
あnyわys
just to share guys befoe event ends
at ex3
jester >>>>>>>>>> lilia
also, lilia reminds me of himekishi lilia. just saying.
so in all honesty
Jesters silence too OP
other than the fringe jester-lilia march
i dont think its a good idea to get this hero
In the meta of trigger heroes
at ex3
at ex5.... its about equal if both runs meow
but with asuka/cream
jester is better it seems
arent you the guy who has lion as profile pic
pretty one sided
and hate pride movement
No
Yes
lol
if ur in US
dont say that
u may be cancelled
my friend's son, his son said "i want to marry a girl" and he got suspended from school
he is only 9
Those dudes are scary.
They’re promoting it for population control
Too many people on earth = bad
Hahaha ya

lol
isnt that crime against humanity?
=.=
Yes

Should have said before being born lol 🤣
jester silence may activate on front HT. she lack Skill shot though
Need thanos for population control
2216 and 770. will always be Strongest.. because they buy everything.
If 502 wants same.. buy everything
anyway , I choose underaged schoolgirl, regardless of meta and performance
In most of Asia it’s very frowned upon
Nonce
uh what
bro
im pretty sure singapore is the happiest city
i have a friend there
who is a waiter
she work 10 hours a day 7 horus per week, has no car, no landed prop, no kids, live with parents
What is this survey
however
when she wakes up in the morning
she always tells herself, life is good
our GDP per capita is 6x malaysia
Get a husband
scouted by Marijuana consumption rate ?
@unreal slate you can skip having kids instead of spout.
legally
why so? 
Children are miracles
I want to have many
society demand you to bore children , not Wife nor hubby
they need more labour for domestic consumption in next 2 decades
Hahahahhahahahahhaah
u know society can demand all they want
but if divorce rates are 50%-92% i just dont think its gonna work haha
better to play top war
that's better than swinging rate.
Adultery at its best
end result is worse than miku's imaginary divorce extortion
hmm
well imo
if society can reduce that number to say
5%
i think its reasonable to expect more kids
ask Garuda , I think his society has far less divorce rate
but right now, i cant think of any couuntry that can achieve this. hence...i cant even think of any country that has lots of kids haha
oh yea india
dang
Anyone doing divorce is not looked upon correctly.
Even married businessman are more successful then the bachelor..
Do being married in India... Is very important for overall image too...
Unmarried bachelors won't even get a flat in decent society in rent. Mostly they endup paying higher rent or buying a property... Or downgrade to different society.
More population... Costly houses.
Renting in different cities saves paperwork lol.
If you not planning to stay forever types
thing is, many people confuse marriage leading to success vs success>marriage
whats important is not marriage, but to be successful.
anyway , injecting 620 gold essence ALL at once on a schoolgirl today , is kinda overkill.
it surely over 1.2m duel pts easily
ok, your perception and my perception regard indian marital life still the same. as old folk taught me decades ago
@wanton sigil
Penit
as for malaysian. no idea
When the mute button backfires 🤣🤣

u know
im still using the same vals
as 3-4 years ago
just leveled up from 83 to 100
if ur serevr is peaceful u just dont lose vals
on vivid side both Tsubaki and Yuzuha deserve my gold shards.
but on Topwars side. Lilia better.
no Jester puppeteer please.
schoolgirl and shiba inu far better. (in term of graphic)


oh
should i put gold?
i mean
my base has no gold thingy
can you activate gold magnet without gold mine

sound like a glitch
but clear the quest
i mean
40 tank spots is worth ,like
100k gems
all the gold in the top war worth near 0
i put 1 gold mine.
it barely enough for daily consumption.
9k,11k,7k ex shards
the only two ex5 i made is eureka and lancaster for each sub
f2p pretty decent
i think 500 ex shards per month
sound dedicated
well
i woudnt have bothered
if its not for this event
scavengning resources to top alliance duel
i got another 15-20 def chip today
and im mostly f2p HT
i think i got pretty lucky cuz my subs are terrible at it
yes
Is it too late to work snake eyes?🤔
Top guys is 650 i think we faced them

I think yes
yea i think so
you got a DEF 20% chip ? f2p ?
snake eye with scorpion formation still be DEADLY against abad airforce.
still be subpar against Navy of any kind
Is there a recent navy power chart for ex5?
Hmm. Probably no since it seems like nass quit
Yep just have the chart when Jester release
Maru
but base on my test Lilia,Duke and Meow more superrior at lv.5

@sacred slate are you reaching vip 16 🙈
@thin lance dm
still VIP 1 
Hmm. This with hero trial?
Na. It's still weak. Need to wait for next heros
Yes 
Hero trials jester combination looks good
Jester/zhen was doing a little better for me
Jester zhen / crimson layla/ duke offence
Lilia meowzilla layla/ duke defence
with and without suppression
F2p is 120 ex slill shards per month 😂
Yes. Next hero gonna decide Lilia fate or you can say meowzilla replacement. .if splash DMG mechanism really works then Lilia stays otherwise just an 2 months hero
I think Splash combo suit Duke more as the Indes heroes 
F2p
Why even think of that maple in march
Meow still good tho imo rather than Maple 🚮
Splash damage used to be totally garbage but splash ability also means it forces snake eyes to shoot all of his load only to let lilia have her dmg dec stack maxed
Who gonna test with maple 🤣. It was obselete on release
This was free gift 🎁
This is too cheap packs for f2p bro
They are in testing phase. Next cycle of heros will decide splash mechanism 🤣
It's literally fre gift 🎁 😁 just click to claim kind of stuff 😀
Stop lying
People have to understand that this fckn test in trial isn’t counting any special effects from titan gear .
Well, gonna be hard for next snake eyes and counter attack heroes
I aint lyin 
For Leyla or Jester debilitation effect make a very huge difference
For Lilia any effect of TG isn’t huge
same result. as long as Suppresion is out. navy lost
It's new way of scamming people by Dev's 🤣..just with fake scenarios. Actually Dev's complete took out special effects importance 🤣.
Stop annoying with topic that there can be march with Lilia Meow and Jester
Its ridiculous
Hahahah
Random but would a Debi booster effect on Duke also boost jesters? Or does the rune need to be on that specific hero
Timmy did a good job but he didn’t count factor of indescribable special effects which increase effect for one more round
So based in trial test its craaap
Garbage
Only duke
You need to consider suppression. Even air would loose without suppression
Maple is just don't exist
Count eagle formation
suppression effect is +44% advantage.
Its cut the suppression effec
Just as example
Iya but 90% community don't have eagle formation developed. It will take atleast still 6-8 months for them atleast. Ya but eagle formation making things messy
You all are noobs
a solid reason to pour 💸💸 on eagle
That’s what I thought. I do have some Debi runes in inventory so maybe jester/zhen is the way for me
You used eagle here 🤔
Wait..wtf
10 people talk in this discord..
How you comparing 90% community lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have some scare of top God.
What happened here 🤔
oh wow , what a solid rebuttal
he used Shark, theres reinforcement buff 
90 % players you can say
Im not player just Dark Force 
Yes 9 out of 10
I'm refugee

Here is Meta of 2022 vs as it was said 2024 meta😂
🤣
but that march used to be so op during its days
nearly everyone used it until maximo came
Maximo just made navy paralyzed and brain ded.
Just test this setup in trial😂
okk 😂
Maximo make navy players become airforce players 😂
the old heroes arent in trial tho
Maximo got nerfed hard 
But i still believe that navy is the strongest type in game
turned army mains to af main as well as they could finally take revenge against navy
I see airforce
I close my eyes to not see them anymore 😂
Its helps a lot
Airforce is tooo OP
💕
I hate and like abad
Especially when Abad consume all that effect 
Suppression is op
too much ignition

Every time i see Abad. My Navy = 
Not anymore
Eagle make Suppressions less effective 
90 attacks vs 33 attacks
dumb comparison
its super easy
to see if a battle is fair or not
Miku delete the game please
basicaly cherry pick
watch 100 replays
look for the 1 replay that shows your agena
agenda
gg
basically, this is how replay comparison down too
OMG 😂😂😂
we all now have tools to make fair battles
Miku dont be noob
Haha 😂 but navy vs army...
Army is still feels little better.
But air vs navy.
Air is better.
why expose ourself to randomness
when u can
just open up 10 subs
and do 200 mock battles
like everyone can do it
like i dont even wanna go now
into the exact stats
and stat difference
until today
i have yet to see a single fair replay
it just never happens
everything from t-mi
all of them are unfair
they say its fair, yet often it shows 2x - 10x difference in stats
many are hiding the units, the unit combo
the fact that one is under weakening or not
or one has HT or not
or one using lv101 or 103
literally thats how its down to
Put a period between to indicate pause

um
im a guy
i cant have period
and sure periods stop yappers
but uh
thats sexist
Someone mute miku


period = fullstop
While he is writing he dont read anything 😂
But i understand the knowledge of him aboutTW
Telling eagle contour attack is regular attack
wait
they fixed 9 box event
quick open is now open till jackpot.
before its open all 9 (garbage).
so now only two buttons to get all.
you look beutiful Yang 
where did you learn to lie?

Thank you, Maru chan
😌
Bro took up the whole screen
Ah wait you are from Kazas babies ?
navy is just op
All in
glad i dont care about this game no more everything is just spending 🙏
told you it wont be 100$
oh ?
50% ?
what is the other 50% gives ?
+2 troops space
whatttttttt
Yea 😁😁😂
wait +2 troop space for every unit type ?
+2 garage/hangar/dock
Yes
yep
oh oh oh
Daily new stuff to buy lol 😁😆
so 2500 gems*6

15k gems = 15$
ehhhhhhhhhhhh
I hope storm gets the +2 space
Sure
50$ for +1 march size
Let's pray for storm 🙏
is crazy
Jelly buy it with your mod money
50$ for +1 ms
is crazy cheap
but +2 space
is crazy expensive
Kaza is my babie
Just ignore yes. .
Trust me you buy.. you get +2 space.
You cry.
That's the cycle

2 chances 
I need two to get +1 🗿
I have one already
you already have it so not that worth to buy for lvl 2
new event?
Just got the perfect chip 🙂
where
LQ
Amazing
50% +1 ms
where
50% for +2 all unit spaces
what event
ehh don't forget to claim this.. since when idk
one of my friends got while doing loot
u get it each week
ah thanks
50% hahaha
@onyx basalt buy it
Dev's gone crazy
Son works too
It's expensive
😌
Wth
since
we recently got 2 march
and deco set +2
291-->295
im ok with deco set. i promised myself that
Oh. They released more
when i got my promotion haha
Man like miku
They just have so many zeros
recently
our currency went crazy
usdmyr 4.11
from 4.80 ish
we now swimming in money
It's still costly.. for that +2 space
As no one will get march size..even if they say 90% haha 🤣
remember the HT flippy
chance of getting gold titan is 1/9
purple is 2/9
reality is
0.0000000001% chance to get gld titan
until the final draw, which is 100%
Selling the only stuff that’s random chance
Good job scumbags
You can’t steal what they buy lol
Yes so them buying it is not relevant since nobody gets it random
It’s been in the loot quest the whole time
Just selling it because ridiculous
@young cedar posting nice bulletins every day but what are you doing with the amount of buyable stuff in the game? It’s actually laughable right now, impossible for most to even keep up
We’ve been here before you lost a lot of spenders
Whales still buy it. They know.it..
Dumb logic
Since the amount of said whales is reducing since the requirements are stupid
The menu is a total joke scrolling for days to get through all the stuff
Ocean event is super expensive that ways but whales still gone for it.
There are many such events these days
Decor redemption I want get icy snow base is it about the same spend $150 to get the vouchers?
People paid for that skin. Which gives 10% extra def for 15 mins .
Trust me they are making less money due to less players
One of my players bought it too
Like the maths of politicians, 1 x £10,000 vs losing 200x £100
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Do a video adding up how much is for sale in 1 day
Be funny
Yes they aren't understanding this thing..
Should be obvious
One of my player also bought it 🤣
Chatting here 😄 and telling someone else bought it too 😂 must feels good
Reminds me of whales of 3384 are the best and strongest.. they all buy everything

He’s telling you to buy everything
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these are the best deals ever, everybody should buy
yes !
Why did Lorca go back to 591 lol
That account handler wasn't able to maintain it
3% dmg
If you hoard
I see
Compete with lev0
I could feel the scarcasm
Moza used to be 4
@acoustic verge stop yapping
Ouchi dear
@static lily what about fansly?

Btw alliance duel will be continued again next week 🤔
@onyx basalt @frail marsh @hollow quartz @onyx basalt
Wolfy how's you ..long time no seen


