#📱│game-discussion
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guys
no reset
gg guys
wtf
omg
routleete = no more 5 box
for every coin
its full g
Ohh so if it's the same state it'll just boost it and if different stat it'll swap?
yes exactly
Ok cool didn't realize it did that
So has there been an updated view on the worth of getting match star coins on the basis of 1) base skin 2) universal shard box


?
whats match star coin
Spinner
For that wheel.
Based totally on luck. Can be great if you’re lucky. Or just average if not.
Is it cheaper on average to get the base skin / universal box compared to typical 21 days events
Got lucky with 3 catalyst
Yeah. It’s been really good for me so far.
About 200 ish spins should be enough for the skin
no 3 global vs 1 CN, just 3 CN vs 1 global and that's 7 matches of those for round 1
lmfao
blind eyes
there's 3 global vs 1 CN
7 of them too
Ouchi
but the thing that is interesting from a 1 vs 3 is the server who get gangbanged never reached the top 2
they always at top 3 or 4
maybe cos of practice so people still testing the waters and saving their cards

Im curious who / what is evie?
She's a topwar player
pokemon

A pokemon ?? Psyduck ??
universal box is the yellow thing?
thats bad imo
ex box is 20 pts
Ohhhh i remembee now, syn’s GF
the yelow box is 30 pts
AND it gives half ex half deco
so ur getting half ex shards for x1.5 the price
Miku, its better buy the 100$ decor package with oil or food inside, or just buy the decor shards?
Yeah. Indeed it’s 30 vouchers, but in the end it’s about cost per voucher
So it’s not “worth” to unlock advanced / premium and also 1 or 2 daily packs?
the cost is bad imo
i think mikuguide has it
Assuming 5x 3 free voucher per spin is still around
the first 1.4k vouchers is $62
but over this number
ur paying $1 to 1.20 for 1 coin, for 3.6 vouchers,
so $10 for 10 coin for 36 vouchers
for 1 mix box, for half ex shards (20)
so $10 for 20 ex shards
note how $ per voucher quickly drops from 23 voucher per dollar to 12
this is because the first 1.4k voucher is cheap, but the next 1k is super expensive
the added 1.1k voucher over 1.4k costs $144
which is a mix of 1 coin for 3.6 voucher, as well as free 550 voucher for spending that much coins
how good is the extra chest from the first 5 spins?
But we are not having daily free 3x5 vouchers, so for 50 days we need to deduct 750 vouchers from your table ?
the extra chest is from this buff
but the extra chest only for the first 5 spin for the whole round this time
Could be 1 off. Could be per 7 days. Could be per 14 days. Too many cycles in there lol
Someone posted a table comparison that at all ex7, Snake, Po and Striker is still better than Quill and Nelle combo?
i dont know about the other calculation
but mathematically, quill ex5 is as good as po ex7
or snake ex7, or asuka ex7
this match with replays ive seen but does not match the table comparison
in terms of damage per normal atk
quilly ex5 is 350%
po7 is about 200%
asuka5, po5, snake5 is about 100%-150%
quilly5 is 350%
so like for like, snake is 65% hp and 150% missiles
quily 5 is 65% hp and 350% missiles
po7 is about 200% but a lot of damage up (100%?)
but yeah i need more tests
right now i only have maths and replays to back me up
i dont have actual equal tets
tests*
everyone with quill nelle is hiding
but based on actual nelle5 quilly 5 replay, asimbalanced in the stats as is, the x3.5 is super consistent even with ZERO ACTIVATION rate
^ this 3.5x is even at 0 activation
I'm 100% sure that wheel is fixed on the rewards you get
Like the certain amount of spins for everyone to get gold catalyst is the same
For anyone

how many spins?
btw, if its true thats how it works
its 100% better to never use coins when there is no +3 bonus
until u hit certain benchmarks
then u use all the same time to guarantee the cata
so
- buy coins daily at $1/2 if needed
- never use coins UNLESS u can get the +3 bonus
- when u have the number of coins that guarantees a deco/3 cata/bonus vouchers, ALL IN
I think 75 spins
It like in the middle between 50 and 100
So 75
Lol
T_T
The wheel thing is like new world wheel for that base skin basically
How many of this ss has miku spammed already
So about the trucks intercepts ... anyone bumping into unrealistically strong marches from the Chinese servers?
I don't like any army heroes
I'm navy and hate fighting against snake eyes
I’m consistently finding gold trucks with ms under 200
I guess your lucky
My Grey's ones are 300ms minimum
I’m lying. It’s all 300 plus 😂
most gold trucks i find are 300+
The mix with cn servers is broken.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Gold are 270 or 300+ms with 600%~800% es7
Well at least for me 
They don't hit my trucks lucky though
I believe the only reason why my gold trucks/ any of my trucks ... not get hit because they been buried by cn server trucks.
Like if it been matched in a fair cp bracket ... i'd probably be raided in under 20 mins
af main?
Gem spending
What is this btw

The game saying I gotcha you 
Oh sorry not chin is war



I can do 14%


need to bet on smth again
Moto can beat him

whom?
For real, more gem spending? How many gems to these guys think we have?! 🥲
Where is new hero 😅
if that was some navy hero then it sank already

From 770

Nice
cuz
its the ONLY nelle5 quil5 replay i can find
no one on trucks using it
no one here using it
everyone either nelle0 or quill0 or bothj
sorry, its a set of five replays
or both lv7
i even catalogged in on excel
basically
i want to see more quilly replays
snake being x1.5 to x2.0 is quite consistent already
especially at ex7
nah
cuz there is max
max can reduce ur normal atk damage by 60%-80%
so ur normal attack needs to x3 or x4
max damage decrease is 240%
so the actual reduction can be up to 1/(1+2.4) or 0.29411764705 of ur original damage
i mean in that replay
striker is 4x
when usually striker ex5 is 1x
XD
so i dont know what happened, but u can ratio each other imo
what i think is happening is the normal attack got unlocky or "disabled"
or keep on attacking the "wrong things"
like for example if u take this replay
and u ,say arbitrarily 1/3rd the normal atk the damage
ALL heroes will go out of line in terms of ratio
ie< striker 3x, nelle 3.3x, quilly 10.5x
so in ur replay
I dont wanna see that ss again

striker 4x
striker is a 100%-150% hero
so if striker deals 4x, that means ur normal atk is cut by about 1/3rd
so by ratio of each other
u gotta adjust it

When considering Quily's exclusive 7:
Active skill: 3x80x35%=136.5%
I assume each slot has 30 units, on average there are about 50 units that cannot activate Magnetic Storm every turn because the unit disappears before activating, so this effect needs to be reduced: (30x9 -50)/(30x9)=81.4%
240%x81.4%=195.36%
When combined with Nelle, Magnetic Pulse activates immediately after, so we don't need to reduce it. and it stays at 240% dmg
[HP]: 65%, assuming full combination with Hero Bond, Remoud 20, Orange Armor Equipment, we calculate starting shield value as
(1+35%+65%)/(1+45%)=144.8%
Total 136.5 + 195.36 +144.8 = 476.66
If combined with Nelle 136.5 + 240 + 144.8 = 521.3
LIKE THIS
of course its more complex than that
becuase actually
ur snake did 48 activations in 23 attacks
on average, 23 attacks = 1.2 x 23 activations and not 48
what happens is that in the first attack ALL 3rd round snake was activated
Po is definitely the strongest ex7 hero, not Quily
yes
quily is strong when paired with nelle
can u guys share replays please
i need more numbers
i only have 5
and u guys keep on complaining of same screenshot
so give more replays
stop comparing po7 vs nelle7 quily7
screenshot
i wont stop until its proven otherwise
btw, im not comparing nelle7 and quilly7
yeah and till then you get new hero already

no
i only have 28k ex shards ish to spare
i wanna make sure the replays check out before i invest
by the time you invest, new hero would be out

yeah
quille 7 is unimaginably broken but im not going there
this assumes only 75% magnet damage is applied
I want crimson replacement
its the first 1050%-1100% hero
meaning quill solo
will beat up 10 bassel march
since 10 bassel is 1000%
Now I'm a low-spending player, I won't go to ex7 again 🤣
Why i keep getting all useless runes
Me too man
tw still don't have a hero plan for the next months, what if we have Po II, x1.5 Po strong, Asuka II x1.5 Asuka strong, Quily II twice as strong as Quily
too risky

They should bring back trade shop wherre can trade runes
quill at 75% magnet penalty (u lose 25% damage) and nelle5
is 1082%
at no penalty and at nelle7
U r getting runes
its just beyond broken

mathematically beyond broken
but i see no replays
its as if whales are so dumb they invest in sucker and server but not quilly?
I have couple of flamable and magnetize😂

I'm only unlucky

Same as ith me man all cn servers, common truck having 300 march😂
yes
but no quilly
the only thing stopping me of quilly ex5 is the lack of users and actualy replays
That yes, mostly are striker snake po
i mean
it might be my maths is wrong and this hero is garbage
but the 5x replays T-mi posted
shows the craziness of quilly
ex5,5?
Yup
ok ill add it to my data
Quily is good bro, i used to beat one guy army 245march he got wuily+duke and now gg me


Bro sponsor me


yeah same

@onyx basalt
Wtf
Here is the formula for me to calculate the values in the table

The numbers are averaged by me from my indicators and some are taken in the config, it is quite accurate


@cold aspen i actually
have an... excel of that
rofl
i rarely use it nowadays
but its there
For me being whale and beating you
cut ur march by half
Whale
btw nass
this is how it looks like
march power by different unit type and unique units/val/HT
its just a matrix operation
it was useful cuz of snake and max and "front row or two row" heroes, now i dont bother
meta is po-duke-asuka7 all unit. so no need of matrix
i dont believe in snake7>asuka7 so yeah
just to confirm ex5,5,5?

Does duke ever stop triggering?
Every battles against him is he trigger 8+ times minimum
i dont want to be in the same server as you 😆😆
Max i saw was 22 times in 35 hits
jk 😜
nooooo 
Ok you come with me 😌
more replays please


Yes sir
2nd is ex5,5,5, 5th is ex 5,7,7. the rest is 7,7,7


duke only increases the multipliers wtf?
3.3x?
wait a minute why would that happen
eu/duke 1.1-->1.6x understable since duke is firepower.
nelle 1.2-->1.3 okay
but quilly 2.8-->3.3
It's hard to choose man
damn, why such hard questions

Im going with either moza or Lizzie
The question aren't fair
Why
How to choose from those options

Choose them all
He wants all of the above option


He can do it
@onyx basalt 5,5,5
This @onyx basalt

you can choose multiple
Add baby

Just for other
dont wanan do quill po
Not for me
quill po is garb

Wtf viper
We need a better sentence 😂😂

If you're using quill, u need nelle
i dont know whats the reasoning
but soetimes its ❤️
sometimes its below 3
sometimes its 3.5-4.0
also all duke replays show its stronger
despite duke "bloating" normal atk damge due to volatility
so i say use duke
all duke replays at 2.7-3.6x, on a volatility bloated normal attack
We're gonna make a longer one after a couple of hours
Be there
Go what is it 00:30?
hmm... so duke is the strongest indes heroes right now?

@onyx basalt hi Moza, let's not spread hate and let's this channel friendly okie okie
7,7,7 @onyx basalt

@reef peak ban this rabbit @chilly solar
yeah ban him and make this community greater

Please no hate towards any players. Game discussion only.
what hero combo is that


quill-duke-nelle?
Yup
Gae discussion only

6 balls skill
is duke or nelle
6 balls, green chip and comet
green chip is quilly
i dont know what happened but this is a nutty replay
i think
magnet ignore silence?
i dont know rofl
these replays quilly did 4.2x to 5.0x
Depending on the combo. Combine with Nelle and Quily, go Duke. Combine with Po and Snake, go Striker
So at the end will spend 4k excl shards for nelle and quill
Or u still need reports

duke-nelle-quill, nelle x1.3, quill x3.3
eureka-nelle-quill 5,5,5 nelle x1.1, quill x3.0
Go burn them !
duke-nelle-quill, nelle x1.3, quill x3.3
eureka-nelle-quill 5,5,5 nelle x1.1, quill x3.0
as benchmark, eureka is x0.9
snake x1.5-2.0
hmmm
its below expectations of x3.5 but ..
i gave up on that
also
since daily = no 3 free voucher per spin
its likely my voucher estimates = crap
Still lot of time.
Yes boss
is these 2 extra box different ?
No
we get x5 box with each 1 spin
Sadly 😔
what about we do x5 times x10 spins ?
so for x10 spins, we still get 1 box extra ?
yea
im about to do 1$ pack daily
If you need base skin
1+2$ needed
i want cata
It's completely free to get for all players
55 spins required for the 10 boxes
Haha 😂 that lucky thing
Food oil odinium mostly. Or 5/10. Vickers
Does intercepting legendary trucks done by intercepting purple??
Well. That task seems impossible then.
Guys i have idea... What if all players below marches 300 will ignore trucks!? let the whales fight!
Justice for average players 🙌🙌
This event is not for average player
You are vip16 bro
ur vip 16 🙄
Keep refreshing 🙊
to see more 300+?
My alt running gold truck. No attck
I did like 100s of times. Barely manage to complete 4 attacks today
who would won that match if that combo met each other Po,Striker,Snake v Quilly,Duke,Nelle 
Find that truck haha 😅
Let have a deal garuda. Make an account on Chinese server.
assumes 40 times free +3
Ping me when you do truck from it ans i can hit it 😅
all lv5, quily duke nelle will win
urgh T_T
hmm... so that magnetic combo is stronger than counter attack combo (Po&Snake)?... 
🥲
its still a great hero
just that i think the magnet loss is higher than expected
ie u keep on killing units with lots of magnet
or u hit the max magnet stack
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
so magnet only gives say, 60% of its total damage potential
Apparently new hero is always stronger for 2-3 weeks of release 😂
hence average of x3.3
instead of model x3.5
also i find its good with duke instead of eureka
this messes up my air march
another issue is the upcoming asuka EX i guess
Po Snake Striker is a good combo, not much inferior to Nelle Quily, we will have a combo that focuses entirely on first 2 rows, 100% ATK Enhan from Po, Snake with Counterattack, and with Striker, it share the dmg of the 2 front rows to back row, it helps our 2 front rows last longer, all in for 2 front rows
As for combos where firepower is in all 3 rows, I think Duke will be better
New heros comming or no 🤔
my problem with snake
is that its only "as good" as asuka
so its pretty much a serval/sucker
thats why i skip (1 star ex0)
Asuka replacement comin up in KFP phase II? 
sep or dec
i think
if next hero is another hp hero
asuka EX is coming (to obsolete all of those)
historically, all-unit hero which obsoletes all hero before it (rei, asuka) always comes after a good hp hero

All 320+
I guess the next hero is a Stromoy replacement, then a Cranston or Brady replacement, then a Snake or Asuka replacement
You see those fires, i made them
@young cedar give us new hero plan

I wasted the intercepts on day one since barely anything worked and I wanted it to be done anyway 🤣
just 2 more!
whyyyyyyyyyy
4 gold truck intercept done, took less than 10 mins
3-6h
5:50h
the rewards are so crap
i just pick the white or green trucks
or whatever given
500 coins give u a green titan material
which is a small screw or whatever
if ur non participants, ur 100k default purple coins gonna clear all the cata
since u cant get the skin
I think u already finish your 4 gold truck hitting
Less than 5 mins 

talking to wall?
They changed schedule
Def stats are crazy
Umm.. I think he is weaker than chen...
But 3041's top strong guy left to another server
Where server?
3337
Anyways guys
He want seasen 5?
i have a logic for duke army
instead of eureka
Duke army actually ignores enemy army snake mid row
Hish

and if u run nelle-quill, before snake counters, he gets all magnet damage
I just logged in and got my butt kicked out by maintenance
basically nelle hit--> snake take all magnet damage---> snake counter

duke ignores counter
i dont know if it results in better outcome or not, but definitely duke deals more damage even if its killing useless backrow units
quill5-nelle5, idd say, quill applies about 3.3x damage to normal atk, as magnet loses about 33% of its damage potential (ie magnet hits air)
Did you get ex 5 on both yet Miku
Damn miku u should run for a president. You know a lot of a sht 
no?
if u wanna be a president
u gotta either be a serial liar
or 80 years old cant finish a sentence
thats democracy

Are you sure you’re not thinking of 3014s top guy?
He that dude, mf too strong as well
Seasonal should be monthly sales lol 😅
Decorate your dreams is a bad event right?
3 march size decors
The coupons don’t even apply to the good decors
It’s an okay ish event
If you don’t have some of the decors it can be worth
There’s some decent decors in there
It is okay, over time you might get something with just gems. But getting what you selected is kinda hard
Just do the first 5 (10 spin)
I’m missing quite a few too
But all the unique decors the coupons don’t get
Wym?
I don’t have it though
The x2?
bottom left guys
Oh they are for a different store
Sucks then
3 gem events in a row... 
I won't touch my savings
That sometimes happens when they resetting the cycle
I thought I was broke on gems right now 🤣
Do you know how expensive it is to refresh till you get a golden truck?
More than most my acc 🤣
I use too many gems in server events it hurts
Atleast TC has gotten cheaper since they added the option to only repair vals
5$ a week .. n you will be fine
Still pretty cheap
Vals are way cheaper to repair the 101s
We come to 2222 then we can't spend $5 🤷
Still not enough
🤣
I spend like 15-20k gems in sever events
Server*
I really need one alliance to automatically add in 2222.
It's too much work in recruitment.
It's better to have a server merger
That’s cheating
It is
Seriously that's better.
Just get one alliance server to merge. And you have two alliances
Haha 😂
Not always
You spam discord in join us you tag every message in take me you try recruiting in game, recruiting in chat channels and recruit on FB and not many come
Mergers can ruin a lot of things
🫨🫨
🤣
🤣
Yes bro. Its complicated 😭
It mainly just happens naturally
You calling it a f2p server with a vip 16 whale that says you should spend dosnt really bang home the fact it's f2p server 😂
Not all are spending 💰 😭🥲🥹
I am addicted.
I will stop or join some recovery asylum

you can send your money my way, ill make good use off it 😄
It took me 47 minutes to find 1 gold truck I can kill
Congrats 👏
whale
What is truck 🚛 reset time ?
need to do the opposite of whales n it will be just fine.
reset -13 or reset +11
points to the same time of day, but with timezones, one might make more sense then the other
just do it during boss
Buy a es7
china people working now
Then you will be stronger
Their day is nearly over
i cant be bothered with trucks
since non participants cant get the skin
so either way f this game
So when they get off work they will attack everyone
What skin?
truck skin
exchange for truck coins
only participants get gold coin to buy the skin
so non participants cant get the skin
game reset is peking time midnight, just saying 👀
peking fish?
Why there is every gold truck is loaded by a Chinese whale 🥲
cn also only sees international whales 
You mean the skin most of us got last event?🤣🤣
We are food to them most of our whales don't stand a chance 
^

Stop biting me bish
My kittens already bite me enough
All I see are Chinese players on s2500+ with 340+ marches. Ridiculous.
Ah he’ll nah
What is wrong with this game, trucks are only Chinese players.. and all like 300+ marchsize.
Havn't we heard that before 🤔😂
Chinese players like to drive in a truck? 🤨
its same truck issue evreytime i open dc xd
no clue

question with all of these is, why does someone only hit him once on each truck... why not hit 2 times and remove these trucks from the search
0/2 still says
Now finally you can watch some quality videos
Don’t need to suffer with 1508, slow play
❤️
@strange depot take some notes and let loco know as well
he would have ex7 quilly
It’s YouTube video I am doing, not Onlyf ans, I don’t do request
ayoooo Ancorlon
miku is helpful
Maybe I misunderstand the question then
Please refrain from adult content in this chatroom as I am under 16
Btw they "buffed" Titan gift
Blessing event
Ayoo Miku
I’m be careful with Moza, he is grooming people
You didn't even speed up the pace to 45mins....
😂
Speed up what pace
I wanna see ancor vs Chen!!!
The video is tutorial for you guys how you should play, if you want to fast forward it, it wouldn’t fill its purpose
Great one buddy. I’ve subscribed and hope you do more
779 2216 and 3041 in same match up!!
I don't see any instructions 👀
@void sleetboth of you would be posting your POVs??
Generation X, I soon need to play your account to help you
Yes sometimes
Yea maybe give 200k and I will be set 😂
good work
It's only smoll vip 6
post a lot during masters
Teach me senpai
Wouldn’t be enough
How much would be enough???😂
I have 4k most times if that 😭
200k wouldn’t get you a full titan
Look I'm on 2.8k rn 😂
I need a bit more than full titan 😂😂😂😂
My march size only 157
And my stats are horrible 😂
Imagine 150 units with 800%

Guys hitting you
We ❤️ @void sleet
I don't simp non sense
That would be funny to see reactions 🤣
It’s absolutely a GREAT start. Keep it up.
I mean , go on my channel and watch my first video . 😂😂😂
Absolutely no editing skill etc
Yours , as the first one , it’s MILES better
He prolly has a rivergames dev doing the editing
At least someone doing something useful
are you running that yt account or its like jallad antares ?
What matter is. First video = great quality
Ah thank you, got some help from 779. I am not tech savvy, I do the recording and the community helps with the rest
Don’t spoil
You will learn , like I did. I have subscribed immediately, buddy
Doesn't vic upload

He can help you
Thanks 🙏🏻
vikC, yeah
Well vik does more than me already. I upload topwar leaks to meme the devs
Vic is also great
Yes sir
Reason for upload is mostly all the dms I get asking about the pov, so I thought I can do this for the community. Also then people can see I don’t burn 😂 so the fake battle
Reports Chinese are sending are useless
To store decors
What burns?
You burn
Never
The more you march out the better the bacon
Editing is a pain guys. I need 8-10 X per polished video minute








