📱│game-discussion

[onyx basalt]

makes it 30% x 1.15

thats the maths

[mystic elm]

it is snakeeyes

[onyx basalt]

no. ignite

[low fiber]

isnt the new air better than asuka ?

[onyx basalt]

ignite damage up maths

[orchid copper]

How much 45% damage is? 🫠

Sounds so ticklish

[onyx basalt]

if ur ignite is 30% and u got ignite +60% damage

[tawny shadow]

New Hero Is the substitute of Brady?

[onyx basalt]

then 30%-->30%x1.6

[orchid copper]

No, different role

[mystic elm]

ok

[reef peak]

New hero hit every slots

Yuu AF version

[onyx basalt]

skip

[reef peak]

Bad for PVE

[onyx basalt]

easiest skip in the world

There is already another hero??

[orchid copper]

Yuu is too old

[sterile yacht]

How’s the latest af hero replacing Asuaka as tw said before?

[orchid copper]

He's piedmont

[mystic elm]

the hero isnt even out yet

[reef peak]

What is “desonate”

[onyx basalt]

whoever made this graphic needs to be fired

F they just make random hexagons

without thinking

[mystic elm]

detonate like asuka consume the charge for damage

[onyx basalt]

If they make an Akatora 2.0 and Maximo 3.0 I’m all in.

[sterile yacht]

And why most of the time, AF hero look like a weirdo

[mystic elm]

its ok with 5 cuz you reapply burn also

[reef peak]

Detonate is like, “triggers effect” ?

[mystic elm]

if it has like asuka triggee rate can be ok

[onyx basalt]

af hero is cute imo

abad, kai

babi is cute too

[unique granite]

Asuka

[onyx basalt]

brady too

[unique granite]

This is the asuka for air

[low fiber]

i like it

[unique granite]

A copy paste all unit

Air buff only

[mystic elm]

if it has asuka trigger rate you can perma burn

[sterile yacht]

My screen is this old man

[unique granite]

But no atk

[low fiber]

i think its better than asuka

[dawn flint]

If it was all units rather then just air type. It’d be more interesting to get.

[mystic elm]

if equal trigger rate yes

[onyx basalt]

I like new heroes you don’t need to think and analyze. It’s just such a no brainer you have to go all in. So many of these are the ones you gotta think about.

[mystic elm]

very likely

[low fiber]

all mumbo jumbo on numbers dont impress me much

i see its designed to keep your enemy on fire

[unique granite]

This is air asuka

[maiden mist]

Nice

[unique granite]

Just no attack buff

The third air hero

[mystic elm]

if you have brady its fine

[unique granite]

Asuka back in army and fk snake

[mystic elm]

and may be a few ignition

[onyx basalt]

this is my opinion

[low fiber]

@onyx basalt i think your d. runk

[onyx basalt]

and is also why i never count ignite

in my hero score

ever

kum has zero damage output

thats safer

ur burnt hero gets killed by attacks anyways so it doesnt matter

dead stuffs do NOT need debuff

this is not the first time i said this

[unique granite]

XD

Bro sees 1T and says is useless

When whales ignite for like 10T

[mystic elm]

XD

[onyx basalt]

yes

but whales will apply 1aa damage from asuka

10T/1aa

?????

[unique granite]

I understand you Miku

[onyx basalt]

like who cares

if ur asuka applies 1aa

ur po applies 2aa

and ur kum applies 10T

does 10T matters? no

[tough hollow]

[onyx basalt]

its all proportionate

[mystic elm]

xd

[tough hollow]

XD

[onyx basalt]

now maybe this hero will be...borderline usable in the most perfect combo that requires THREE ex5 to be playable

maybe. sure

but... u can just put in asuka ex0 and call it the day

free

or babi ex0

[unreal tapir]

New hero replacement to Asuka?

[mystic elm]

can we instead talk about how titan gears destroy the game?

[cold aspen]

#📮│game-suggestions message

[onyx basalt]

this also doesnt solve the fact that

ignite is delayed

you reapply a ignite which will be delayed

nothing have changed

[sterile yacht]

Lvl 7…30% dmg is nothing in front of titan gear

[mystic elm]

it applies 3 burn at the start of each round

may be usable

may be may be

[cold aspen]

The new hero is nothing special, let's focus on Titan Gear

[mystic elm]

i agree

titan gears bad destroy the game

[sterile yacht]

Ignition effect can be replaced by titan gear as well

[cold aspen]

There needs to be another Titan Gear rework #📮│game-suggestions message

[mystic elm]

enhenced?

[sterile yacht]

As long as you have many ignition effect titan gear

[unique granite]

75% shield. No atk

Hit all units and consumes ignite like an asuka. (maybe less proc rate since all unit hit)

Every round 3 ignites 50% dmg

Exc 5 when hero consumes ignition for dmg you apply one stack of ignition to the affected unit (plural?)

New hero is air exc asuka

[mystic elm]

the affected

[unique granite]

You flex asuka if you want

Or fuck the hero and keep asuka

Your call

Asuka can do fine. This is just air only asuka

Your asuka can go elsewhere if you build this wannabe

If you dont have place for asuka keep her in air is fine np

Titan gear is the main issue of your game experience and fun

[mystic elm]

i would honestly wait to see how trigger rate is

[sterile yacht]

Since titan gear is out, I haven’t bought any heroes…I’m still using max-Shinjin-Kum..should I get this one ..or continue to ban TW

[mystic elm]

if it is as high as asuka it has potential

[unique granite]

Yeh trigger seems lower tbh

Which is fair

High is broken

[mystic elm]

but i wouldnt hope too much

[unique granite]

You just snowball enemy

[mystic elm]

cuz the numer is smol and all

[unique granite]

You hit all units which means all enemy units deal less dmg per proc they get

Dropping march is dropping dmg in said slot

Barbie has a snowball effect when you can just bully

[mystic elm]

level 5 is interesting with ex0 applying 3 units at start of each round

[unique granite]

Old trololol

So if you own high stats hitting all units is a snowball

[reef peak]

where is this red dot from lol

[unique granite]

I muted this discord

And ill leave in 5 mins anyways

[umbral cape]

Hit “read all” make it go away

[mystic elm]

xd

[reef peak]

that works

[unique granite]

Here have one more @reef peak

[sleek comet]

Especially with a Xyston HT 🤔

[unique granite]

Xyston is opening shot

[reef peak]

ahahahahaaa

[unique granite]

It loses effect quick

Scramsax is way better in long term value

[mystic elm]

if you have higher stats than opponent you dont want xyxton

[onyx basalt]

guys

[unique granite]

Scramsax doesnt care how healthy or not enemy units are

[onyx basalt]

yuu is a rage hero and becomes machine gun with erin

this hero

is not yuu

its basically all the drawbacks of yuu

[unique granite]

You hit 35% all the time against ignited units

[onyx basalt]

and its an active skill

[unique granite]

Which is the way to go

[onyx basalt]

no guaranteed square or HT

anyways yea

please skip

spend that $300k on titan

better use of money

[unique granite]

So let me see if i understand

This new arabic hero is different from an Asian Yuu so skip

Got it

[slow pagoda]

How's new hero 🤔

[unique granite]

Miku says skip Ketan

[mystic elm]

trash apparently

[unique granite]

Because is not Yuu

[sleek comet]

Fair point

[mystic elm]

no need to wait for trigger rate or interaction with other heroes

[onyx basalt]

btw

this is NOT all the time

[unique granite]

Xyston is good vs whales since you can't hit good anyway you keep the effect until you die

[onyx basalt]

ur turn 1 will have lack of ignites

also

ur final ignite is ALWAYS wasted

[unique granite]

But whales want scramsax in air

[onyx basalt]

ur first and final turn

u dont get that +30%

[unique granite]

Xyston in others

[onyx basalt]

which is hueg

huge

[lost jungle]

brady will solve that

[onyx basalt]

lets say a unit attacks 4 times

its likely only two gets 30%

Finally asuka replacement

the other two dont

[unique granite]

Brady and new guy

Nothing else needed

Is an asuka just air exclusive

Just think if you want to flex asuka or not

[lost jungle]

the moment opponent proc skills.. everything will be burn by brady

[unique granite]

Yes = go new hero
No = keep

[onyx basalt]

oh yea btw

in case i dont warn you

you do NOT assume everything is ignited

thats not how this hero works

[unique granite]

Yeah not all will be ignited

[mystic elm]

its only 3 slot

[onyx basalt]

the enemy will consistently drop the number ignition

[unique granite]

You cant ignite all units yet

[onyx basalt]

and u got no ignite sources left

after t1

or start of t2

except 3 at start of round

every enemy attack drops ignite

[unique granite]

You have brady first two rounds

And then new hero

[onyx basalt]

think about it

[unique granite]

Just like asuka

[onyx basalt]

every time enemy attack

thats a permanently unburnable unit

except from start of round effect after t

t2

[unique granite]

Depends

[onyx basalt]

actually u know what

i can make an excel to simulate this

but uh

[tough hollow]

I love excel

[onyx basalt]

its just bad

lol

[unique granite]

This is topwar being topwar

[onyx basalt]

He is like asuka how u telling me asuka march is bad 😍

ima let u guys get ex5 and 7

and test

~_~''

[unique granite]

Hero hits all units and consumes all ignites

[onyx basalt]

im tired

[unique granite]

But applies one ignite to the unit hit

[tough hollow]

And then applies ignition

[unique granite]

Does this mean all ignited units?

[mystic elm]

all

[onyx basalt]

necrown, after ur decoy are gone, every time the enemy attacks he is permanently healing a unit from any ignite

[unique granite]

Yeah but

[onyx basalt]

We don't know yet

[unique granite]

Looks all?

[onyx basalt]

that means

[tough hollow]

Correct

[onyx basalt]

in 1 turn = no more burn

t3 u got no more burnt units

to re-ignite

[unique granite]

Cuz if all is a recurring snowball

And miku will change his mind

And say

Busted

[mystic elm]

can you just wait til it is out?

[frail niche]

what

[tough hollow]

He hits all units so ignites all after ends

[frail niche]

new hero?

[tough hollow]

Monki

[unique granite]

Is what my brain is telling me

[onyx basalt]

All is a guessing game at this point.

[tough hollow]

That's in description

[unique granite]

I don't trust description

[tough hollow]

Unless tw English is bad

[frail niche]

air only

sounds eh

[mystic elm]

it sounds pretty busted to me the mechanics wise. the numbers wise pretty low 45% skill dmg and 50% ignition is very low

[unique granite]

Some drunk ass dev types in boxes for you to read in game

Always test in battle

Because dev who codes is not dev who types

And they hardly work together

[onyx basalt]

Asuka deals 50 per missle

[lost jungle]

have to be re-apply all else it gonna be so trash

[onyx basalt]

..

[unique granite]

So you get messy confusing layers of text

[orchid copper]

Ex5 looks broken if it's actually did the exact thing per wordings

[unique granite]

We need to test

[onyx basalt]

^

[mystic elm]

exactly my thinkinh

[unique granite]

No other way

[onyx basalt]

this is gonna happen

after start of turn 2

he will permanenntly have no more burn

[orchid copper]

Getting burns and detonates only to be burned again and again

[onyx basalt]

he will NOT be burned againa nd again

[unique granite]

I like the new guy

[mystic elm]

hero have a passive that applies 3 burn at the beginning of each round

[onyx basalt]

he will drop the burn

[unique granite]

I want asuka army

[orchid copper]

In this way, his proc rate gonna be low to balance it

[unique granite]

And retire snake blind

[onyx basalt]

@orchid copper

read

the burn is not permanennt

once that unit attacks

no more source of burn

[onyx basalt]

U want him to flame the whole 9 slots for 6 rounds straight to be good ??

he cant moza

thats the point

[tough hollow]

Correct

[onyx basalt]

the +30% is NOT a flat +30% in damage

its more like +30% x 30%

[tough hollow]

But still gotta see proc

[onyx basalt]

cuz only 30% of the time its burnt

[mystic elm]

if the burn is in slot 9 for example you will just die to burn if it keeps triggering

[orchid copper]

What to read from here?!

It's stupid

[mystic elm]

cuz it is very far off into a round

or 8 or 7

[orchid copper]

Burn all over again and again and again and again

[onyx basalt]

Not 30%, ? Well those dev have some explanation to do..

[mystic elm]

may be slot 1,2,3 or up to 5 will get out of constant burn

[lost jungle]

have to see what proc rate is

[wanton sigil]

I want to remind you something

[unique granite]

What miku means is something else. He aint wrong but is the way he said it is not understandable

What miku says and has a point is the delayed mechanic of ignite or magnetic pulse

If your unit doesnt trigger the enemy unit turn will

So the ignite is lost

But this happens if you have no rof

In a normal situation your hitting in turns so you always can reapply

[tough hollow]

What miku means ex, 1st attack, he applies burn to all like debuff of yuu. But when slot 1 of enemy attacks he consumes burn.

[orchid copper]

Saturday maintenance adjustment or sudden edits, yes :3

[mystic elm]

if you are lucky with trigger and passive say you burn back 3 row. slot 7,8,9.

[unique granite]

In whale vs miku situations where you lose slots. Skipping turns may imply loss of ignite too

[mystic elm]

you can potentiall just burn them to dead

[tough hollow]

But point is whenever new Hero attacks he puts burn

[mystic elm]

before they eveb have a chance

to hit

[onyx basalt]

Slot 1 is ignited it atk → no more igninte have to wait for round to begin again for it to be ignited and after 3rd round you're only getting ignition from his ex.

[unique granite]

Wanna know how many times they added HT skills and removed

[onyx basalt]

sorry

its hard to explain this

[wanton sigil]

Tell these people if they don't have an exclusive 7,
They should buy it first then discuss

[onyx basalt]

this is

ignite % through time

its deifnitely not 100%

i assure u

[orchid copper]

Is that what normal ignition works?

[unique granite]

Dont you angela me bro

[tough hollow]

Yes.

[orchid copper]

Yes

[mystic elm]

yes

we need angela here

[tough hollow]

Burn is consumed whenever opponent unit attacks

[mystic elm]

[orchid copper]

Anyone who don't have ex7 abad pls shut up and let angela test this hero

[mystic elm]

agreed

[unique granite]

We will

[tough hollow]

But with titan gear and other ex 5 heroes burn should last

[dawn flint]

Heard that before. LoL

[tough hollow]

Not all units but there will be some.

[orchid copper]

Such a great one liner by her

[unique granite]

Yup

Searing is there for that

[mystic elm]

angela was onto something

[onyx basalt]

no.

F no

dont use searing

[unique granite]

Scamming that whale?

[onyx basalt]

wtf is wrong with u guys

[unique granite]

Sorry Miku

[onyx basalt]

dmg increase 10% >>>>>>>>searing

regardless of combo

[mystic elm]

nothing miku

[onyx basalt]

dont try to make a garbage chip AND garbage hero work

by using titan

thats not how this game work

at best, this hero is as good as asuka

if say the activation rate is what 50%?

i dunno

very very high

making up for the damage falloff effect

[onyx basalt]

55% ×3 → from brady ex (5)
55% ×3 → from abad ex (5)
After hitting round 3 ignition drops by ½ ?

no moza

the chart shows number of ignited enemies

[tough hollow]

There will be some burn targets every round miku for this hero to exploit

[onyx basalt]

it will fall

and that the damage bonus is the area under the curve

ie: not 100%

more like 30%

of what u think

[mystic elm]

the real question is why are you so pessimist? we agree thst the number are bad, we are aware about the ignition mechanics.
we are just stating that it has potential and needs some testing with titan geads and hero pairing

[tough hollow]

It's not that even enemy slot 1 that was ignited at start attacks burn is consumed our hero won't trigger and put burn again

[onyx basalt]

cuz

[unique granite]

Just bet all in tw shares

[onyx basalt]

He add 50% and multiple it by 10% at ex (5)

[tough hollow]

And then triggers and consume that ignite he out

[unique granite]

TRASH

[onyx basalt]

look

do u want 30% ignite x 2

or damage increase 20%

i mean

[unique granite]

10*

[onyx basalt]

ill take damage increase every time

no necrown

[onyx basalt]

Well we don't have 20% DMG 😂😂😂

thats lv3

he upgraded it

[unique granite]

People cant 20% cheap

[sleek comet]

Tell that to RNJesus

[unique granite]

Yeh bro thats an old searing

[onyx basalt]

Even 10 we can't

thats new searing

he combined two searing into one

[unique granite]

Nobody buys searing runes to lvl up

[onyx basalt]

so its a leveled up

[orchid copper]

[onyx basalt]

Or it's pre update

[unique granite]

Bruh i have searing max out from old days

[mystic elm]

we cant even get 1 dmg inc rune how can we all in 6 dmg inc rune???

[unique granite]

And 40% dmg inc

[onyx basalt]

Well he have it and he gonna use it

[unique granite]

From old days

[orchid copper]

Pre update don't have stars lol

[unique granite]

Yeah

[mystic elm]

what is wrong with using one searing to make a hero slighly viable??

[unique granite]

Old were rng %

[onyx basalt]

It's good with the new hero and as magnetic pusles works in army searing works with abda

[unique granite]

You had like 60 rolls of effects

[mystic elm]

because you cant afford 6 dmg inc

[onyx basalt]

That's how topwar wants heros nowadays all cored in TG

[unique granite]

Whats good is MBB shooting all units now pew pew pew

[orchid copper]

At least new heroes are now using easier names

Much better than bryn or maple

[unique granite]

Abad?

[mystic elm]

next hero name will be just a

b

c

[tough hollow]

Hahaha

[onyx basalt]

It's Arabic name

[orchid copper]

d

[unique granite]

I mean

A - bad hero

[mystic elm]

i though it was abed

[unique granite]

No disrespect towards arabic meaning

[tough hollow]

Lol

[unique granite]

But this is an omen

Bad hero

[tough hollow]

Finally what miku Said

[orchid copper]

Nono, A = good according to asians

[onyx basalt]

Well for me with searing effects if u have it's going to be insane good

[mystic elm]

this is a bad hero alright

[tough hollow]

Necy sees

[unique granite]

XD topwar devs knew miku would find out

[orchid copper]

B = failure

[unique granite]

A = good
Bad = failure
Final word a good failure

[onyx basalt]

if u look at other heros now they center and relay on TG effects

[unique granite]

So your saying this hero will colonize my air force pilots

[onyx basalt]

bryn / zhen / A-bad

😂😂😂

[unique granite]

Thats some 007 secret word combination with a meaning

Well lets just wait for Miku to buy 5 exc and test

[orchid copper]

@onyx basalt pleaseeeee

[dusky sentinel]

Waiting for asuka vs abad discussion

[onyx basalt]

Im getting him ex.5 on release since i didn't get Asuka 😍

[orchid copper]

If you're right, you can spank my ass

[round tinsel]

Why would you skip asuka👀🌚

[unique granite]

I think i want exc 5 for asuka to go army

[onyx basalt]

Thx necrown we all read him A-bad hero now 😂😂😂😂

[onyx basalt]

My farmers forget it

9/10 shards

[dusky sentinel]

I just finished my 3hm perks. So im now ready to retire maximo

[round tinsel]

Ooof

[unique granite]

There you go

[round tinsel]

Never retire max

[orchid copper]

Air heroes always have funny names anyway

[round tinsel]

He is still god

[orchid copper]

Like garbie

[round tinsel]

[modest linden]

[unique granite]

Legends never die

Maximo Prey army

[unique granite]

Got one report to show you

[round tinsel]

Send

[round tinsel]

Love the name

[dusky sentinel]

Abad doesn't have homing to ignited targets like asukaちゃん

[unique granite]

Amalia meta

[sleek comet]

Hits all slots so why would he need to?

[drowsy pulsar]

Slightly worse Asuka? Idk

[round tinsel]

914

Miss that guy

[drowsy pulsar]

🔥🔥🔥

[unique granite]

The mechanic is this new hero hits all units and so whoever unit is ignited gets to be consumed like an Asuka

[round tinsel]

I ran Amalia Ben kat

[unique granite]

Honestly new hero may be tricky for mid budgets

[round tinsel]

That was my first march

[dusky sentinel]

Does he? But pink brady's ignition is good for asuka like heroes.

[wanton sigil]

It's a good hero.

[drowsy pulsar]

Maybe a little better

[orchid copper]

Nvm, the wordings for ex5 is fine

[round tinsel]

Well Ben was added after he was new. That shield was sooooooo op

[drowsy pulsar]

Certainly better for second march

[wanton sigil]

Asuka can be used in army 🪖

[orchid copper]

It says only 1 stack of ignition

So only 1 unit is burned

[drowsy pulsar]

Meh

[orchid copper]

Not all 9 slots

[onyx basalt]

I remember someone who in all earnest said 2 years ago that the new meta is only universal heroes and meant Amalia, Villiers etc.

[unique granite]

Your prolly clouding yourself. Asuka hits X amount of units and prioritizes ignited. The new hero hits all units so there is no need to prioritize enemy units

[unique granite]

Yeah Villiers one of the best heroes to date. And universal heroes still are meta.

[orchid copper]

That's garbage

[unique granite]

See how much i loved her

[round tinsel]

We get it, you’re rich

[unique granite]

I went all in

[onyx basalt]

We know u have a 30 searing effect

[round tinsel]

[onyx basalt]

Are. are you angela?

[dusky sentinel]

Uhm,. thats what ive said. Asuka has homing to ignition

[unique granite]

So does new guy

New guy consumes all ignition too

[round tinsel]

Basically asuka 2 but you can’t throw him on army for magnets

[onyx basalt]

Im changing those three asses

[unique granite]

Oh man i dont like that air

[onyx basalt]

Heheheh

[unique granite]

If that is your main

[onyx basalt]

Another account

[mikuguide] calculation methodology

😍

[round tinsel]

2023 is calling

[unique granite]

If thats like 2-3rd then your oj

[onyx basalt]

A Horder one

[round tinsel]

I kid I kid moza

[unique granite]

I loved kum hazel maximo days

As army main

[onyx basalt]

[mikuguide] New hero @ 40% activation rate and 30% burn factor (30% of units gets burned on average), 6 out of 9 average stack throughout the battle

[frail niche]

new hero is basically 914 against weaker people lmao

[ancient ice]

[unique granite]

Chongqing

[mystic elm]

New guy applies iginition 3 units at beginning of each rond. at 5 whenever he trigger he appplies burn agian if the target has burn already. (note it hits all unit)

[dusky sentinel]

Ahh it hits all units,. Lel,. Didn't read that part clearly

[mystic elm]

so it is a hit or miss with burn

[onyx basalt]

Im ready 😂

[mystic elm]

not huge but if it is constant they will add up

[onyx basalt]

paper, remember, enemy attacking permanently removes burn

no more reapplication

so the burn # falls through time

[mystic elm]

unless you have searing effect

[onyx basalt]

With searing effects u can start building it again ( dev mind ) 😂

but searing means u lose a dmginc10%-40% slot

so no

[mystic elm]

then you can reapplied agian and they will have to wait next round to get rid of it agian

i am not whale so i cant afford 6x dmg inc for all 3 heroes

[onyx basalt]

If i have a DMG inc effects I won't use any other effects 😊

[mystic elm]

may be if you are whale the. the hero might be bad

[round tinsel]

But over time yes

[peak epoch]

You can always move searing off if you get the dmg+ rune.

[round tinsel]

[wanton sigil]

**if

[mystic elm]

IF

exactly

[onyx basalt]

DMG inc TG Is constant
Searing are not

also

[dusky sentinel]

You have pink brady

[onyx basalt]

ignite +10% is effectively final damage x1.002 to x1.005

[peak epoch]

I originally wrote “when you get” and immediately corrected myself… 🤣

[onyx basalt]

or dmginc 1%

pretty bad imo

[dusky sentinel]

He applies ignition

[onyx basalt]

ignite +10% is around dmginc 1%

ignite +40% is around dmginc 4%

its like vitality

it doesnt matter

vitality 100% is only final damage x1.1 or so

[mystic elm]

not if you keep applyinh

[round tinsel]

X2 plus what the hero does to those slots

Hehehe

[onyx basalt]

yeah u can add whatever u want

[mystic elm]

so the real catch is its trigger rate

[onyx basalt]

but at ex7 this hero is too far behind asuka ex7

[dusky sentinel]

Bye bye maximo

[onyx basalt]

1000% vs 700%

[round tinsel]

Don’t do it

[mystic elm]

i would personally wait til a hero is out

[dusky sentinel]

You did good.

Time to say goodbye.

Thank you for those salty navy tears.

[mystic elm]

[dusky sentinel]

[onyx basalt]

seriously

just use babi

and please god

dont ex7 this

=.=

[wanton sigil]

[mystic elm]

seriosuly just wait til it is out

[onyx basalt]

like if u wanna play around with ex0

sure

go for it

600 gold shards can cumback

Worth him over maximo 😂 mr march is ages old

[mystic elm]

if the trigger rate is like asuka it is good imo

[onyx basalt]

Kum and maximo and shinji I'm going to rebrand my march

[dusky sentinel]

Abad all in!!

[onyx basalt]

kum-maximo-shinji is a decent secondary

defend wfac

and watch stuffs melt

[round tinsel]

Kum asuka shinji

Is my secondary

[mystic elm]

dont think you want shinji in wfac

[round tinsel]

🌚

[onyx basalt]

asuka never deserves to be in secondary

[mystic elm]

all in atk trigger

in wfac

[round tinsel]

Don’t have room for her

[onyx basalt]

no paper

rofl

[round tinsel]

I have the meta for army and air

[onyx basalt]

asuka is always primary

always

[round tinsel]

She’s not in primary

[onyx basalt]

gg man

[mystic elm]

my asuka dig gold

[onyx basalt]

btw

lots of asuka doujins online

[round tinsel]

[onyx basalt]

i heard its a super old anime 1980 anime

[dusky sentinel]

Brady abad duke
Maximo panda stryker

[round tinsel]

No

Stryker is main

[dusky sentinel]

Lets go pew pew

[round tinsel]

Always

[mystic elm]

you want strike main

[round tinsel]

Duke is second

[dusky sentinel]

Ok ok,. Styker on main

[mystic elm]

duke kill back line fast, new hero probably also kill back line fast

[round tinsel]

You won’t be disappointed

[onyx basalt]

I need to burn the account down and build new heros 😂

[round tinsel]

Oh wow that’s like looking at 2022

[mystic elm]

brady, katy, tywin lets go

[dusky sentinel]

Or can just wait for kung fu panda indestructible hero

[onyx basalt]

Didn't use it in combat since 2els

[dusky sentinel]

EZ

[onyx basalt]

3 fully perked marches

[mystic elm]

that is gonna be a long wait

but yeah dew dat

[onyx basalt]

With A-bad i can use it again since i didn't get Asuka

[round tinsel]

Whale

[onyx basalt]

Well it's not my account but he is decent

[round tinsel]

[mystic elm]

[ancient ice]

chance attacking all unit for 45% dmg and detonate burn.

is that Abad a new Piedmont mkII

[round tinsel]

Welcome to the chat @ancient ice

[mystic elm]

titan gears need rework

i know

[ancient ice]

@round tinsel 🤏🤏🤏

sound like Piedmont piedmont and silver

trigger chance also 10% ?

[mystic elm]

things/ mechanic to consider is passive 3 burn beginning of each round with ex5 detonate and reapplying burn.
dmg wise no. are pretty low. all unit atk triggers are known to have bad trigger rate.
The hero can either be extremely good or extremely underwhelming depending in trigger rate.

[pure solstice]

what about debilitation and vulnerable? are those SEs maxed better than say dmg inc/dec 10%?

[mystic elm]

if you can you apparently 6x dmg in /dec in all 3 heroes

[pure solstice]

is that the recommended?

[reef peak]

my stat^

[onyx basalt]

imo

this hero is at best... an equal to asuka ex0

at ex7 100% bad

no matter what

it just doesnt scale

ignition +30% is dmginc 4% so it doesnt matter

the only thing thats uncertain

is that the attack-all skill is 45% x ex5 effect + 30% if ex7 + 30% x burnpenalty

burnpenalty historically is super high

like max burn never ever deals full dmg

[ancient ice]

trigger chance definitely worse than Barbie

[round tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/bodybuilder-bodybuilding-muscles-gains-swole-gif-16162862

[mystic elm]

i would personlly want to have a few se here and there. But most topwsr players like big stats. you do you

[reef peak]

ahhahahahaa

[round tinsel]

Jelly… get that dmg- up

2.8 away from 300

[mystic elm]

big stats mean you are less reliant on rng for your trigger and it is coonstant dmg output so it is kinda recommended

[round tinsel]

42.1 from 3000 atk

@reef peak

[reef peak]

what is that mean

[round tinsel]

[reef peak]

get dmg- up , gotcha

[round tinsel]

Your so close to 300

Dmg-

[onyx basalt]

im 3k/3k too

rofl

~_~

im so ded

[reef peak]

AF or all type ?

[onyx basalt]

all

[thick pulsar]

👀

[reef peak]

yeah the other 2 types of mine is way lower

[round tinsel]

I’m closing in on 500

[onyx basalt]

my vip12

is mostly from deco set

so only march difference

and $5+$1/day for ex shards

[round tinsel]

Jelly let’s play in SvS warzone

[reef peak]

im too lazy for that

[round tinsel]

[dark cedar]

🐳

[reef peak]

i just can't go back anymore on Navy

the day Maximo released , I already had 3 gold BP

on navy

[round tinsel]

[dark cedar]

Me crying in corner cuz I'm navy

[reef peak]

me too

[round tinsel]

Me too

[loud gulch]

Me who switched from navy to air force and hates army 🥹

[reef peak]

slowly grinding "all unit" stuffs lately

[wanton sigil]

Blue 🔵🔵🔵

[modest linden]

Is new Air good?

[wanton sigil]

Just used 10 blue 🔵🔵🔵💙💙

[dark cedar]

[round tinsel]

I remember that grind

Might as well grind lvling up titan gear for those added atk/hp

[dark cedar]

I'm not doing thinking to switch my main but it's not easy

[onyx basalt]

Flexing huh ?

[slow pagoda]

If you want to spend you can switch

[round tinsel]

Ooooooooooooooo @wanton sigil you gonna let that happen

Titan gear off

[onyx basalt]

40 GOLD catalyst with tons of blue and purple for 5 S.E and none give me DMG ones 😦

[unborn radish]

What do you think about new air hero?

[onyx basalt]

Earlier 😂

[round tinsel]

lol all of my last 7 runes have been dmg+

Heheheheh

I’ll trade one for searing

[unborn radish]

Is he worth replacing another hero?

[round tinsel]

No

[onyx basalt]

So how your March looks like?

[round tinsel]

If you f2p

[wanton sigil]

With 10 blue

[mystic elm]

new hero a bad hero

[round tinsel]

It’s meh

[wanton sigil]

What a lucky 😁

[round tinsel]

I’m an old player so my account sucks compare to others

[wanton sigil]

With this luck 😁😀 I can get rank 1 🤣🤣

[onyx basalt]

46 to be 21k. And +500

[round tinsel]

Only good one I got today

[modest linden]

[onyx basalt]

Sucker

Just got it hehehehe

[wanton sigil]

Gold catalyst 🤗

Try with blue 💙

Blue is been very lucky for me

[slow pagoda]

Getting purple and blue one from store Bette 🙈

But specific type top tier catalyst is worth to buy

[wanton sigil]

12 purple 🟣💜🟣

[slow pagoda]

Wow

Great chips

[safe carbon]

I can never get Refinement to work well

It always replaces the one I want to keep

[unique granite]

[onyx basalt]

F off

[pure solstice]

@onyx basalt you have this math as well?

[unique granite]

You win

[onyx basalt]

Hehehehehe

[unique granite]

[onyx basalt]

Fk u mafn

[simple wadi]

New hero is op

[onyx basalt]

[simple wadi]

400%dmg per hit

[onyx basalt]

5 gold ?

[unique granite]

Yes friend

[frail plaza]

Is like Yuu

[unique granite]

Miku said other wise. He not asian not rage so is a skip

[onyx basalt]

18 for me

[unique granite]

Bruh

Thing is that is your account

So you win

[frail plaza]

Didn't he say he's bad

Ignition = trash

[ancient ice]

ughh , rank 500+. out if reward bound

[onyx basalt]

i did posted the maths somewhere up there

its not that she is bad

but to say its an asuka replacement? please no

[unique granite]

Yeah he did

[onyx basalt]

[mikuguide] New hero @ 40% activation rate and 30% burn factor (30% of units gets burned on average), 6 out of 9 average stack throughout the battle

[unique granite]

The Devs literally said we will bring an Air hero to allow non Asuka owners to own him

He arrives and is trash

[frail plaza]

We will find out on Thursday

[onyx basalt]

asuka ex7 = 900% power hero

this hero barely 700% ish

[ancient ice]

why do you think all unit attack has dreamy chance of 40% activation rate

[frail plaza]

If he hits like Yuu and less trigger rate then he dead

[onyx basalt]

i need to assume something

=/

yuu is 50% right

yuu-erin

XD

[unique granite]

Low proc rate I agree to skip and trash him

[onyx basalt]

once u have yuu+erin

yuu machine gun

[unique granite]

Depends miku

Rage exploit?

[frail plaza]

What is rage

That's some 2022 stuff

[onyx basalt]

but yea

if this hero is 25% activatin rate

just delete

get it cuz she is cute

[ancient ice]

10% activation rate

[unique granite]

Rage could be exploited because the system doesn't cap rage

You only see 7 rage display

But you could have 10-13 rage stacks

Making the heroes activate in between hits

[simple wadi]

New hero ex 5 is permanent burn no? The hero hits it, then reapplies it again

[onyx basalt]

i thnk yuu gets a rage addition bonus

anyways

[unique granite]

Need to test

[onyx basalt]

lets wait for new erin 2

a hero with active skill that adds all rage whenever it activates

"all hero gains 4 rage"

[mystic elm]

the new hero is a-bad hero

[onyx basalt]

40% activation rate

[frail plaza]

That is if The New hero is the one to trigger every burns

[mystic elm]

next new hero will be name a-trash

after this one

[frail plaza]

There is no definite consistency

[mystic elm]

next next one a-garbo

[onyx basalt]

lol

lets have low expectations for

"bryn replacement"

rofl

it will just be bryn with 75% hp up

shrugs

[wanton oak]

I love my bryn

[frail plaza]

The trend says there won't be any replacements

[simple wadi]

Looks like any ignition effect. I think this hero syncs better wither brady than asuka brady. We’ll see

[frail plaza]

Probably, depends on proc rate and the attack pattern, if it's just like Yuu then there is damage loss when an enemy slot dies

[mystic elm]

if the unit has burn debuff and you hit with trigger, it explodes and reappliy (required 5)

note: the hero applies 3 burn at beginning of each round

at ex0

[cold aspen]

I think Abad's active skill activation will be the same as Asuka's: 40-42%

[simple wadi]

In a brady-new hero march, in the first two turn, many units are burning. Then the hero hits all units so those units will almost always be under burn

[frail plaza]

It probably will be the same

Just wonder if he's gonna be strong enough for me to replace. Barbie

[sleek marsh]

Has anyone ever went to a dead server and was the strongest lol how did that play out?

[frail plaza]

Too weak to ever be the strongest

[mystic elm]

easiest skip

[frail plaza]

Even dead servers have a big whale at the top

[frail plaza]

Devs have been really good at not power creeping

This hero would've looked great if not for the "hit all unit"

That just makes him air Yuu

[mystic elm]

dno 45% hit all or 60% 3 units

which is better?

[frail plaza]

Yuu is gets lesser dmg as enemies die, so who knows how good that is

Considering battle rounds are longer it may or may not do better than Asuka

[simple wadi]

My money is on him better than asuka slightly

At lvl5

[mystic elm]

delete before miku sees

[frail plaza]

Better slightly sounds about right

It's the current trend

I don't have enough ex skill shards anyway

[onyx basalt]

This is why I’m always iffy about your models tbh, while I appreciate what you try to do, ur assumptions just aren’t always accurate, and when someone tries to tell you they aren’t accurate u still keep the incorrect assumption.

[frail plaza]

[simple wadi]

You never know. He could have a high proc rate 🤷‍♂️

[frail plaza]

He needs a Maximo level proc rate

[round tinsel]

[frail plaza]

All recent heroes have like 40%

[simple wadi]

I think 50% proc

[frail plaza]

Except Kai

[simple wadi]

Some are better like kai

[frail plaza]

Kai has Maximo level proc rate but only front 2 rows

And just gets ignored because of the 100% trigger on ex5

[simple wadi]

Also this hero gets rid of crim HA faster

[round tinsel]

@onyx basalt I take the advice with a grain of salt. I always go to the whales reports and what they think

[cold aspen]

Abad is slightly better than Asuka in the AF, in my initial view

[frail plaza]

Let's see if A-Bad Hero can redeem himself as A-Good hero on Thurs

[frail niche]

cmon his name is a bad

😔

stop daydreaming

[onyx basalt]

Agreed, it’s a good kind of guide just more often than not it’s flawed

[frail plaza]

I daydream all day and all night

[onyx basalt]

I can appreciate what he tries to do though for everyone

[frail plaza]

Even if he is A-Good I don't have enough ex skill shards anyway

[frail niche]

🤮

[sharp valley]

I'll stick with asuka just because sunken cost 🤷‍♂️

[round tinsel]

It adds a level of perspective on heroes

[frail plaza]

I can't change anything until I get 2k ex skill shards

[round tinsel]

Just don’t take it as gospel

[frail plaza]

My army and air missing 1 more ex5 each

[frail niche]

i got like

7k smth

but no gs

[sharp valley]

I'd rather save for a LVL 7 in 12 years then get every hero ex 5 for a 5% improvement

[mystic elm]

wow 3 marches

big whale

[frail plaza]

I'm just old

And no power creep, and navy heroes being so trash one after another

So my navy stays stromoy Layla Crimson

[onyx basalt]

i mean

i got erin ex5 rofl

[wanton sigil]

Why ?

[wanton oak]

Cos

$$$$

[crude wren]

They have different purposes

[peak epoch]

To feed Bryn, Nelly, or Asuka

[wanton oak]

If u got magnetic field u can use the magnetise surely

[crude wren]

One increases the % of magnetic pulse effect, 15-30%. One increase the amount of magnetic pulse effect added to enemy stacks.

[onyx basalt]

They are different

[wanton sigil]

Same same but difflient haha

But already it's confusing

They should make it one

[onyx basalt]

Magnetize is slot 2/4/6 as well, magnetic field is 1/3/5

[wanton sigil]

Yes no one needs this much magnetic 🧲

[onyx basalt]

Field is ideally the one you want

Magnetic field works on all HEROs, except for counter attack like snake

Magnetize only works on a few like Bryn etc

[wanton sigil]

Then this should be given to everyone 💜

Thx

[onyx basalt]

Mag field won’t work on snake bc he’s not active hero skill, he’s counter attack

So if ur running snake, have it all damage runes

[wanton sigil]

🆒

[floral crow]

Do we know what the changes to item ruin are???

[orchid copper]

heroes will eventually will be bad

just like barbie being garbie

but devs will make sure new heroes are slightly stronger than older ones so believe it that it will do more than asuka

[orchid copper]

no idea, hidden features

[floral crow]

Ugh im curious lmao

[orchid copper]

"we change things first then you can cry about it later"

[floral crow]

[wanton sigil]

Eggactly

[onyx basalt]

u know

[orchid copper]

no transparency at all about that change

[onyx basalt]

i might 5 star ex0 layla

cuz next hero will be bad

~_~

[orchid copper]

just assume they will change it to be more new players friendly

[onyx basalt]

my dreams of asuka 2

has been shattered

f this game

[reef peak]

it can be strong miku

[onyx basalt]

5 star ex0 layla is like the most wasteful use of shards ever

when im running white navy eq

[ancient ice]

regret regret

[onyx basalt]

This 100% new hero looks better than Asuka, just is air main and not universal, pick ur poison

~_~

[orchid copper]

nah, everyone's poison is titan gear

ALL IN

[onyx basalt]

Can I just tell you how much I love opening 50+ purps and 10/15 golds and 100+ blues for one bullshit invincible rune

[sterile yacht]

As long as you have titan gear, you don’t need new lvl 7 heroes!
Conclusion: All in Titan gear

[onyx basalt]

anyways

please buy ex5

everyone

[onyx basalt]

You know what I’ve noticed about this

and test and share replay

[onyx basalt]

I’ve noticed if I face a march around 300+ that’s army with two or three es7 HEROs, my march is right on par with theirs only having es5 at 430%+

dont compare with ex7,7,7

And my TG never gets outdated but their es7 does

ex7,7,7 = x2.5 stronger

if all else equal

huge gap

[onyx basalt]

I absolutely will when I’m beating some🤣

u can bridge this with

suppression

Only bc of TG

suppression is about x2 advantage

[quartz hazel]

No march with 7,7,7, new hero with just 300+

[sterile yacht]

Exactly! As long as you have full set of titan gear lvl6 for three heroes! I believe you can beat those gipsy with Simon!

[onyx basalt]

u cant

rofl

[sterile yacht]

😂😂😂

[onyx basalt]

i mean

ex7,7,7 march power is like 8000%

bob-simon-kate is like 100%