#📱│game-discussion
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Not to mention the silent majority that we actually never knows
I'm still waiting to see how many servers this event will break
Seeing your 100 m can't do anything against someone in the same cp will make you question what I'm doing here even whales can't keep up these days
Yup, basically harshly speaking only the one who cannot keep up will complaints
first stage : $5 for $14 worth of core, 2100 gems of mats, 1225 gems of +1 item (lv101)
its...not bad
i guess? rofl
I watched the loco pov SvS thing and watching him one tap a 100m is fucking hilarious honestly lmfao
Otherwise, they would may to take the same path as dosar but even now dosar account is still one shotting stuffs
Imagine how much you spent to become a 100m
weaker than gem weekly pass but u cant buy core, mats nor +1 with gems
Just to get obliterated by a navy march
It's impossible to keep up now . With these 6 levels . If you are smart you will stop because you know it's useless
I remember back then angela keep roasting old players for having such bloated CP
And then what?
Even new players have 90M+
At 3000+
Now everyone is bloated
To keep up just simply join the server where the whales who still keeping up
You get random runes . You don't have clear fixed drop rate . You don't know know your chances and you need 6 levels . .
We have only few names these days
Hence why 779 may soon have a massive application queue
I'm not sure . Is anco will learn from robin and decide to stay to play with Ali ?
But there still ain't no way to beat 2216
I’m sure they already do honestly lmao
Or simply goes to 2216 to chill out
Instant accept
Someone told me he wants to win UD in his server
Honestly to build a server with depth is basically absurdly weird now
I’m a big fan of the thought of Ancorlon/ali duo I hope it lasts. They can be like loco/irish from 1508
You can build a server instant way like 3118 or do it the long way like 2216
But if he actually learns the lesson before trying . He will see he will need help and won't be able to do it alone
If he stays it will be great for both him and Ali . And 779 in general
Does anyone have MBB stats? I haven’t seen in a long while
I just want sub-1000 servers to stay Whaley and relevant 😂 I don’t like all these high # servers hahaha
2798 will enter twz at 14th april, let's see how Robin gonna take his chance to jump up or he really actually stay to twz
When is new af hero?
Wednesday
instant way doesn’t last though
pls indes
Echo are you still playing?
Well, last instant was gave them #3 for UD
Hard pill to take
yeah
Don’t see you around much whenever I am haha
they should’ve gone to 3141
I honestly want a list of which servers still actually active + relevant maybe i will finally settle on a choice instead of waiting to be full time farmer .
3141 doesn't accept non-koreans so cannot
change flag
Any stats leaked yet 🥲
I just recommend to go to a top 3 server or sum id be scared of them losing one event and everyone leaving
except 770 I don’t foresee them dying but who knows
If/When they get smacked by 2216 anything can happen
It's the pride that might kill them not the lose .
Earliest in 10 hours, Latest by next Wednesday
Nada… probably not anything until the night before lmao
only 4 or 5 servers you can count on still existing in a few months
All top have full waiting list I'm trying to see if there's a servers i don't know about
Depends on what kind of activity you want
Do you want a top server with like 4 alliances?
True story but i aslo don't want to exist after few months but also i said the same thing 2 years ago
One full alliance of active players minimum? Doesn’t have to be top players?
True, sadly too many whales are afraid to lose a single event
Once losing a single event then they massively moving to somewhere else
1145 was a fantastic server with strong people. They got their shit rocked by 148 in EL then everyone IMMEDIATELY left

1145 foundation was solid af
They could’ve been planning it beforehand but that was still funny to watch
Yeah, let me pick the best thing from my opinion
They have many strong whales but lol, they had to take the hard pills and merged to 1248
1145 and 1248 hated eachother forever lol
Yup
Even 1248 keep saying 1145 is a bot server
Botbotbot
Then they got rocked by 1508 not even close haha
Yea they were massive at that EL
I want stable . But seems I'm the problem actually . I cancelled 2 for different reasons one of them timing. I didn't join friends who invited me join them . So at this point I'm the problem . I just want list now🙃
@onyx basalt
and babypanda
Which is why no servers will be dead, they will simply merge and keep the top servers alive
The thing about 20$ custom reward is.... you need to spend it weekly and that’s a pain
Without merging, so many servers will be dead
1 alliance is bad idea for anyone to move there . We about to empty 2 full alliances in 2 months . Some day you wake up and you are alone
Depends on the people imo but yea that can happen
Everyone needs to merger
Devs won't listen to that blablabla
They will do mass mergers before UD

They keep ruining transfers cycles. This event might close transfer for some servers until July or even August . Then maybe a month after that they will give us another UD and close it again
Because they merger dead servers together . Instead of merging them into one server that has at least 1 active alliance . Sure it won't work . Merger 3 servers that each has 20 active player won't do anything
there will always be issues
they’ve done that, still had issues, server still died
look at 1136
Huge war
War ended, but then everyone moved to other server
can’t satisfy everyone, just discount transfer and let them decide for themself
いぇあh
yeah
i feel like remoulds > purple cata
purple cata is only $1
remould is $2 x 2 = $4
x 7
These things happened when everyone used to have energy. Now we leave it for small new servers . No one has the energy to that anymore
We gotta decide miku. Skip 20$ cata and 20$ baking chip then we will have 20$ resonator, 20$ remould + mastery
We gotta be sure cause the weekly 20$ then it means 80$/ month

Honestly imma just skip them all
ive skipped baking chip for a long while
last month and last last month
14 blue cata per week means 14x5% ~1 gold cata
so u can skip $20 cata?
Wait was it daily x2 blue cata when we buy gold cata event ?????
Daily tasks
If it was the backbone of the server leaves, only a small server form in the end
since the weekly 14x blue kinda replaces it
Again, too many whales are afraid to lose
is it worth to grab the 7 purples for the week or just stick to the blues for $9
It's all not worth it
Now they are losing anyway
agreed 
Go write in feature requests hopefully they give us rework if enough made noise . I need something fixed doesn't require luck
so gold Cata easiest money grab? 
lol you new here? they dont give a shit about our "feature request" 🤣
Yes I'm 3 years new
They changed the limit for recruit after the bad change so I'm hoping if we made enough noise they will find a way
Or most will go to the other choice and just quit
we tried to get them to change it. we basically got a worst system. young servers also had way more ways to get catalyst for free
I think people seriously these days quitting because this is just can't be skipped . It's so broken that it can't be skipped .
So I'm hoping they will rethink it as last try before they force all the old to leave . Things will fall badly after this event if they didn't fix it seriously
I have seen the most addictive people . Spenders who used to be here each day goes inactive for days now without caring because they know it doesn't matter anymore
Sadly after how they did their last change I don’t see things getting better unless they increase the ways can get catalyst for free substantially
Getting more free won't fix anything you still get random runes . Bad drop rates . 6 levels . It won't fix it
We all monkis once TG 2.0 pops up
Then nerf current TG

@onyx basalt need you again
i really consider about xyston chip
our opponent need to have >60% HP than us
so Xyston can be useful
is that mean Xyston a chip to be against account stronger than us ?
if we want to have less damaged unit and win more against same/lower opponent, we rather use Shamsir ?
first , find condition needed for PvP battle to last 4+ rounds
it's still rare. even these day
I still don’t have the letter on either of my accounts. Is there a way to roll this now? Is the lucky fortune and gatcha decor available?
Just be "unlucky"
One of the mini games
I thought it just meant 60% of their own max HP, meaning the early rounds of battles
wait lemme read again
60% of target HP
if HT spray shotgun bullets to 4 targets.
consider each target HP respectively.
If HT slam 4 shotgun on 1 target.
on 2nd or 3rd bullet, once target HP below 60% , xyston power lost right that instance
Is Kum burn triggers considered an active skill trigger
Cuz, I have 2 burns apply runes and 1 magnet apply runes
xyston is remaining stack out of total stack
if the enemy got 30 unit stack
u lose x1.7 damage if the remaining stack is below 60% of 30
last last year , ain't it 1.49 - 1.5 ?
kum 2nd burn , that isn't stack to 1st burn
Yes, but that's not the answer to my question
40 blue catalyst, 20 purple catalyst and 15 gold catalyst
And not even a single special effects..
And funny part is ,still didn't got a letter from Mr K..👏👏👏
Really wanna understand what u call bad luck. TOP WAR
Lol
You're fine or I can master like what the Server or I'm a researcher of players
we all agree that lv5 resonator is bad bad ?
I don't own Kum EX L5. so , not sure.
I can guess it's not consider active skill (which trigger 3 runes you mention)
well, those who own Kum EX L5 still silence 🌛
I have ex5 kum, but kum originally don't have an active skill, so idk if it works
The ex5 works like an active skill, so theoretically it should
just ask miku. he own both
no, in the hero descriptions, active skills are given the header of "active skill"
No xyston, shamshir and scramsax DMG was squared from release. Hence xyston 30% is 1.3^2 > 1.69
Just saying those theoretical values don’t match with real DMG values
neither, sort of.
HT buffing chips without attack speed are gonna lead to issues. And you want at least 2 solid stats on a left chip if its not going to have attack speed.
the left chip has starting shield, but lacks DMG+ and/or DEF
the right chip has DEF, but you would need to reveal the other stats before being sure
So basically invest a bit in the right-side chip to get it to level 5, so you can see the next stat, if its attack speed, Shield, or DMG+ go to level 10.
if you are gonna choose one of them
else go with a chip that already have 4 stats
for ht i think its ded, sheild, dmg in, dmg dec
and atk sped if you dont have
no need more than 0.0001% so you dont want to fully invest to get crazy with sped
currently use obsolete Estoc. on 2nd march HT
just that 16 airforce def alone. make it hard to discard
well 16% is like more than average
def
ideally you want 20, 20 something
but its purple
yeah, that's fine, not great, but helps - and eventually replace with xyston - nearly any xyston will be better than that for airforce.
(just looking for good excuse to burn 1481 fodder stock)
You don't need attack speed
Only 0.1%
I find DEF more valuable than everything else.
Xyston deals more damage until the enemy slots reach a march % threshold
If you hit a whale you always have xyston effect because you can't deal damage anyway
remind me again. how good is 120% heavy armor ?
Heavy armor mitigates skill damage
I don't know the ratio you tank with it
Like 120% blocks 120%? More?
Never bothered to find out
I stopped caring about damage calculations since their battle engine is rigged
So anything report involved I no longer have tracked anything
I know that Crimson 's 50% heavy armor mitigate -33% actual dmg from maxi laser.
no more
Air hits 33% per target
Two targets maximo deals less
One target maximo deals less
So heavy armor there would act as it would mitigate more
When is just unit calculation
They have different ratios i think in their code (server wise)
If we had knowledge of their algorithms then we could manipulate and find the truth of numbers of damage and what not
We players can assume anything using math but doesnt apply in topwar
You have rng in there so you can never assume with X something you deal Y or soak up Z damage
wouldnt suprise me if dmg out put are also rng
I stopped testing their timestamp system
But i always had an opinion it was also part of the battle engine
Ideal windows
Because reports were never the same
Yet by default heroes are
I think it is. The golden rule of topwar is be stronger than your enemy to win
Your margin are the stats gap whether titan gear / exclusives / raw stats etc
End game march is the gap since whales tend to be alike in stats
i would like to see more variation of hero ngl
What do you mean with variation
Hiiii
Herrow
Yeah he looks good with it.
Who is this?
Easy?🥵
Loco?
Take
yup
Poor, the luck in ht is on my side
Ancorlon > MBB > Whoever else
Or even both are matched
MBB is 320%+ damage in Titan
Robin
Asuka EX L7 with 2× 1-star searing runes.
ouch 
Well despite the lack of synergy in there Asuka with Searing is good
With all out surge to maximize her target lock on with the application of ignite to units.
Flammable is something I need to find out if it is worth scaling or not
very good to the point of buffs upon buffs
I see brute force stats on titan gear selection of only damage +/-
But I think having one or two less for in game battle effects could maybe be better idk
Need big players to test as they own the fancy toys
I dont mind being 850 over 900 dmg to have some game add ons in battle

@unique granite normal atk 2.59 T smg
has 12.5 T burn dmg activate by Asuka EX L7
(own Asuka 50% burn buff with +30% flammable rune)
that's what I see on replay.
enemy Asuka skill
Asuka also has all out surge 22% i think
Do you think flammable stacks?
Multiple on her
Don't have maxed
I think 12.5 T burn dmg originate from
asuka own 50% burn randomly paste on 2 target
amplify +30% by Asuka EX L7
amplify another +30% by 1 flammable rune
Asuka in navy should be a crime
2 target is searing
🤣
But 12.5T is alot nowadays?
If that dot would hit someone like robin or mbb
It wont deal 12.5T
Against me maybe
btw, 50% crossbow bolt dmg is 16 T
amplify by her EX L7 +40%
Duke brady asuka
at this point. I gonna hug DEF DEF DEF
Would you do searing on duke too?
When proc randomly ignites
For asuka to target lock after
All out asuka is good but need more ignited targets to target lock
sure, i would add searing rune on duke in that case
How many?
In asuka/duke
Brady is passive
I have several flammable runes
I wouldn't mind your thoughts so i could test
Is not mbb lvl but is high stats we can dig into it
there is 3 possible slots ... -steel torrent , 2 ledt
meaning , max 2 flammable rune
Even level 0 does the difference
Can do on asuka
And searing on duke
Do you know if searing stacks on same hero
Like two searing 4 ignites?
let see
Never tested
elden ring is fun
I see Layla 4 shots with 2 Debilitation runes 1-star result in 5 debilitatee targets
@unique granite probably this answer tah
nice if you have crim
or zang
btw why i see zang in some whales?
it's very hard to spectate whether +30% burn from 2 rune stack together on 1 target , result in 30% burn or 60% burn
Yes
Also that
I go test later duke alone
If i see 3 targets ignited it works
If only two then dont stack
I dont find the scenario of always 2 to be like coincidenxe
i mean , Layla EX L7 shoot 6 shots hit 4 target.
result in 5 debilitated target
that cat still be on Free arena , feel free to look at Koharuchan
yes
since that cat equip o'so many searing / impact ... her dmg inc around 500%
you can try
titan gears increase ppl stats by 2x i think
which is insane for a single mechanic/ feature

nani??
ive never
counted asuka DOT
asuka dot has pros and cons hence its not good to count it
for example, if u use asuka with magnetic
magnetic deals LESS damage in turn 2
which is huge
Is more to see if searing stacks
since your magnets explode before indes drops off
depends on hero
kum can stack a maximum
yeah. showy showcase
kum and max can stack
Searing apply ignite 2 random
and its likely
searing , kum, max all can stack
ie they dont cancel each other
now each burn effect has their own stack limit
which needs to be tested
kum i think its 3?
ive seen max, kum, kum, kum
Titan rune
4 burns
Not hero
in a single stack
Dif heroes stack
I remember use ben vs air alone and i had like 5 stacks of ignite
So is stackable but maybe theres a limit per unit of stacks
Is this what you mean?
just try Koharuchan.
- its all stackable, however each burn type has their own stack limit
ie: kum has a max
max has a max
and searing has a max
so if kum has burn say 5 times
it wont go above 5
so u wont be kum x 6 max x 7 searing x 10
likely will cap at a number
say, 5
so kum x 5, max x 5, searing x 5
15 burns
u gotta test it
what im saying is
each effect has a max
and assuming its 5
then searing 5 stack is the maximum
but you can have searing 5 stack, kum 5 stack, max 5 stack
Then multiple searing wont do anything
5 maximum means
Because once 5 are reached no more
u can stack up to 5
5 too ?
Yeah me neither
and to get lucy
Their data doesnt say either
in all honesty
Is in their servers
i dont think it matters
just try Koharuchan
i dunno
To adjust stats of rune
Brady too good at 7
vs po7? nah
Air
anyways this is why i dont care about searing/burn cap
the damage output is too low
17T out of total damage of what, 400T
if the cap is 6 instead of 5
it may add 0.01T maybe
it doesnt matter
I dont care how much the ignite does
I care to apply for all out surge asuka proc twice
And consume for more dmg
same thing
asuka only adds 20%
which doesnt matter imo
also
if u run duke-brady-asuka
u got no burns
after t2
also
Asuka always burns
all out surge don't trigger rune twice
Brady is during decoy
Yes
Is to just hit again on more ignited
what im saying is that
the added 20% doesnt matter
if u use ignite effect it means ur march is stunted
since it could have been a damage increase 10%
which increases ALL damage by 10%
or 2.4% actual whatever
versus, a one off 700%-->720%
for only ONE
out of six asuka shots
there is no reason to use ignite
except if you dont have enough $$$
which can be solved with $
uh
if i had infinite cash
i would spend $1 million before the rework
so that i get 1000 free choice runes
so now i should have fulll lv 6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,,6,66,6,6,6 rune
Thats past
since it only takes 22x18
Present
now....ill put the money in ASB
unit trust account
and make $50k a year for free gg
excluding house loan, i only spend like, $200 a month? rofl
so yeah ill be honest
im still analysing the titan system
but its becoming more and more clear that, there is no point to spend anymore unless ur going hardcore all-in titan
if ur a vip 16 cheapo with 4k/4k 400/400 stats
and say a low vip has 3.5k/3.5k 300/300 stats
he can literally open 140 blue cata and get so many dmginc runes
With these stats
Ok
until lv 6
once u reach all lv 6
start working on secondary march
all lv6
then tertiary all lv6

then u sould be able to burn him if he sends his main march out
remember
titan is only ONE march
as long as that march is out
he will have no eureka, no main HT, no main titan
ie: ez burn
mathematically, secondary titanless march will be about 10x weaker than the main march
that means he is spreading his resources
that been said
his secondary march wont have main HT
no main titan
no eureka
that itself will make it much weaker
Hmm
Your a madman
What do you think
Army
Po 7 eureka 7 + 5 snake OR 7 gipsy
Cap maybe ye
with hero skill
if you dont have your march that is around 500 stats without
of how weak a secondary can be relative to main
period
even with infinite money
for a single march
losing titan itself and no eureka
5.5x
if ur HT is behind the gap is even larger
what it means is, if two people has the same main march power
their main march will be 6x stronger than the other secondary
ie: ez one shot
yeah if someone all in titan gear om march
Fortnite, clash royal
Miku
valorant
Bruh
i thought snake was obsolete on release
due to asuka
so yeah
easiest skip for me
also we are getting asuka AND bryn replacement
i know paper
but not stronger than asuka of equal ex0 or 5
Snake only 5
especially ex0
snake 0 is absolute garb
anyways, snake 5 isnt much stronger than asuka 5
that true
T-mi replays
and own replays
i went through so much
and decided 1 star snake is fine
anyways, its gonna be dead soon
asuka replacement
if they just make asuka with a good ex5, thats gg snake ex5 100%
since asuka2 is all unit AND will be stronger
dont know
while i dont know how strong bryn is, but if bryn is as strong as asuka2 or nelle to justify its existence
may be they will give crimson replacent
anyways
treatment
ill be honest
hp heroes = no ex
for me
its a big no
they just get replaced too fast
also some heroes like kai and babi
dont even scale with ex
not crimson
or polik
hes been there awhile now
anyways
thats my opinion anyways
but if u got infinite $ u should ex7 every hero
so no point debating XD
i really not good at mathematically calculating ex7's since i dont have em

i cant do replays to cross check numbers
Bryn was obsolete in days 🤣. Feel so sorry for those that went ex7
nelle too btw
XD
nelle is fine, but eh, po is better
nah
Go hit mbb nelle army
very obsolete it hurt so much. (sarcasm)
nelle bryn gets destroyed by po asuka imo
100%
and its all unit
and both appeared.... 3 days after release
or 1 week whatever
that being said, nelle ex0 is fine
i actually have nelle ex0
since its basically a free gypsy
ex5
no strings attached
I typically just read all Miku’s comments first. Skipped Nelle and Bryn for the most part.
Saved money.
Magnetic isnt a meta meta. Just option
Big whales doing it. Works with their stats
Wont work for me so i skipped
until today, i still stick to my gut feel that
burn, magnetic effect
has 0 value
its a "nice bonus":
but not a base stat
Make dev ogre in pic
guys in the new event i used two location beacon and nothing has happened, is there a problem with that or will the beacons be returned?
this happens way more often than you think
and its a huge drawback of magnet
and burn
u got a low hp unit getting burn or magnet
and then every asuka/nelle shot shoots at it
not only wasting all damage, it also wastes all burn and magnet
this is why, i dont like counting magnet as a "base stat"
its kinda like babi
babi has an added bonus of "ignoring all navy debuffs and buffs"
but its too complex to account for
asuka has a "damage bonus on DOT" also complex
its just not good to make hero comboes that relies on this added bonus
its conditional, small, inconsistent, and may have unforeseen drawbacks
@onyx basalt da shen 
what was DOT?
Dmg over time
ok thanks
Delayed dmg in tw
She consumes that effect to deal instant damage

whenever u got burn and magnet, it will attract all asuka and nelle shots
even if the unit is killed
why all of the sudden we're talking about those additional dmg now
Damn sir korty
this means that units that would have just died naturally to burn or magnet
I wanted to find out to help a friend
will .... waste ALL asuka/nelle shots
But ill test

like the pic i posted
Does that plane fly miku
btw
9 days left of fasting
btw necrown
should i...spend $20 a month on this game? rofl
k
If your new player you can spend
rm20 or usd20
$20? XD
But old need to pay more than new
u puasa meh
usd20 can eat what in msia
For which pack ?
Monthly maybe
once a month
once a month = 14 core, 14 blue cata, 14 remoulds
thats what im thinking
need 1 year to get 5,5,5,5 remould?

Skip cores
u cant skip
Ah the custom rewards lol
custom
You need mats?
?
alr!!


on top of daily shards and comp and free weekly ex shards
30 per week is no joke
thats 1500
per year
almost one free ex5
u mean repair slot?
cb miku
Bro trying to be the new Angela
NA LI YOU
u la cb
1500 exc shards a year you need only 1.5 years for one exc 5 hero using gems
Only 1.5 years
Like 20 heroes released in that 1.5 years
asian probs sorz
uh
ill be honest
2023: i only invested in gypsy and eureka
everything else didnt matter
asuka ex0
okay so 90sgd buy what sia
duke ex0
huh
so its optional now
well, gg
ull be fine in singapore
life on easy mode bro
all my singapore friends say life is easy
u wanna buy rice just cross border everything cheap hehe
because yall next door
& cheaper
if i'm not living w fam, expenses damn high eh
because alr high maintenance
then live with family la
imagine + housing all
ez
ya rent free
can single bto at 35
nah
at 35 u gotta proof that your taking care of someone
even then u will be in the queue
age 100 then get
no la
single jiu can already
or else
just find someone to pretend marriage w?

bro. dont be parasite of society. hdb flat is for married couples not for single age 35 property speculators
~_~''
bruh
u don’t know meh
singles bto have actually appt for singles de
but q pathetic la
1 room 1 living
have kitchen n toilet la
but smoll
erm
noice
anyways im a malaysian so i dont know much about singapore rofl
i have a few houses and its all like sgd 80k ish? rents out for sgd600/month ish
no thanks
girls over there are...uh.....unique
i guess?
rofl
if i live in singapore ill 100% passport out
HAHAHAHAHA TELL ME ABOUT IT
100000%
Yes. High maintenance bully
our citizens a lot migrated
kiampa
in sg?
cheap sia the rental
Intro sugar mummy pls
how much to buy housing in msia?
u la tues watching movie at 1600
but
u guys got fast internet in singapore
so i dont think u need da girlsa
kinda perfect substitute
what is girlsa
Intro laio you can call me daddy

yerr mav wants me to call him daddy sia @pine summit

After you intro your rich mummy
go clarke quay find
Did you guys made it lvl 2 ?
she's clarke quay management mav
Sounds like gangster 👀
yea
people there are smart
so not surprising

wah xiexie for your compliment 😗🫶🏻
kinda, go club have security
i think only people in US are dumb enough to continue to throw themself into the divorce grinder despite the 50% statistics...but than again...they believe in flat earth and vaccine is bad...so...yeah...
sads
Miku
us 
svan go back afk
pls
svan go back to white

Check channel description please
me i started
blue means afk
shuh shuh
What is your March size ?
Move in #☕│off-topic
Big
How big

Lol
285
Without Acadia?
still got blue talking these days meh
weak
r u a whale
F2p vibes
would u call urself a whale svan
I am -3 to you.
I will beat you 🥲
should always start w “hello evie”
smh
vip10?
seva a disappointment
i would call him a whale yeah
eh miku lai
Who are u
Me?
90sgd buy what rn
uh
just buy any $100 thing
u said u wanna vip 12 right
285 is probably vip11 at least
There are many svan in Mumbai beach ⛱️
But this svan in discord is strong 😁
Evie has diff discord 😑
They're flamingos...
dashen fr

