📱│game-discussion

[onyx basalt]

i think x1.7 and plus 70% is a huge difference

this hero if plus 70%

can be absolutely broken

[unkempt galleon]

Why army hero again, that's shit

[onyx basalt]

it will basically make

magnet effect 2x 30%--> 2x 100%

[orchid copper]

because navy already have duke

[onyx basalt]

and bryn 3x30% 3x 100%

[orchid copper]

meanwhile duke: me love air

[sleek comet]

Snake eyes came after Duke 😂

[last falcon]

Just topwar things 💅

[onyx basalt]

btw

last time army got a damage up hero

was 2021 with preys

its a super super rare hero type

[sleek comet]

Until next collab 😂

[onyx basalt]

at the very least, this hero free's up gypsy and hence kicks out cornstarch,brady, scrotum, and other bad heroes

[sleek comet]

Then will be 100% All units

[last falcon]

Miku what in gods green earth is scrotum

[onyx basalt]

When?

[sleek comet]

After EL I reckon

[onyx basalt]

btw

[sleek comet]

Money grab now and later

[onyx basalt]

because this hero has slightly more balanced atk up vs gypsy

he is better in combo's

BUT needs all-army

and needs full

[sleek comet]

So does Bryn

[dry palm]

So do asuka-duke-and this new hero is better than asuka-duke-snake?

[sleek comet]

So focus on that march setup where you can rally/garrison with other troop types

[onyx basalt]

Fk TW

[radiant blade]

Yup i got only 102 fml.. lol

[onyx basalt]

Yh, it's a counter strike

bro

plus minus 200%

is rounding error

army now effectively has two combo's

striker-gypsy-asuka, duke-nelle-snake

or whatever

[unkempt galleon]

.... mhm years ago

[orchid copper]

they won't care

duke is duke, and duke is navy

meanwhile in reality duke mostly for air

😂

fake navy

[unkempt galleon]

Bassel navy too, we don't need any navy anymore

Solved

[wild quarry]

TW hates Navy like a red-headed step child

[frail niche]

what is navy again

[unkempt galleon]

Those are the favs in another category

[orchid copper]

floating oversized tanks

[dry palm]

Cosmetic navy logo on the hero and its done <- some tw dev probably

[frail niche]

tanks dont lose to planes

dumbo

[orchid copper]

but they float

and oversized

[orchid copper]

gotta add more fake navy and let people using those navy heroes on non-navy march lol

[unkempt galleon]

I bet next navy will a support one like Lancaster or so

[onyx basalt]

no maymi

they already released hero schedule

[unkempt galleon]

Yeha but just bc they say it's a replacement doesn't mean it is

Can still be shit

[mystic elm]

well layla will be in meta for a year

soon.

[onyx basalt]

well it means its not support

rofl

air is forever valhalla king

[orchid copper]

next replacement is bob

[onyx basalt]

69 million odi

[orchid copper]

bob > all heroes

[mystic elm]

which is unheard of for any navy heroes to be in the meta for a year.

layla must be broken

[sleek comet]

She is

Especially es7 my god

[onyx basalt]

btw

guys

imagine the new hero once ur unit count is lowred

the 5x magnet

is actually insanely overpowered

and gets stronger and stronger as unit counts fall

in fact

its absolutely broken

its basically every-turn-914

with no penalty

[sleek comet]

Pair with Titan gear special effects 😂

[onyx basalt]

in a 9v9 situation, sure, one time at start of turn 500%-600% damage

but 1v1 situation

every attack = plus 500%

also because of this, you dont want "weak" magnet effects

u dont want bryn with this

5x is max stack

[sleek comet]

Per hero

[mystic elm]

is it stronger than shiny pikachu tho

[sleek comet]

No

[mystic elm]

inde hero + nelle and brynhildr is gonna be meta i guess

[lost jungle]

also 60% base magnetic that like ex7 from bryn

[onyx basalt]

this may break the game btw

nyaha

[mystic elm]

if you are agaist back line triggering hero use duke otherwise striker i guess

[onyx basalt]

cuz

if u attack a army main

ur march gets weaker and weaker

and with that, the ex5 effect gets stronger and stronger

since 500% is devided by your remaining stacks in effectiveness

[heavy needle]

So Bryn + nelle?

[mystic elm]

anyway wake me up with titan 2.0 comes

[onyx basalt]

no

bryn is always weaker

than asuka or snake

no matter what

at any ex at any combo

[heavy needle]

Asuka then

[mystic elm]

cuz anynew hero is useless without titan 2.0

[heavy needle]

Your pp will enlarge with 2.0

[mystic elm]

oh yeah hopefully

[lost jungle]

but new hero buff like 100% magnetic maybe bryn is alive now?

[onyx basalt]

lets wait

personally, i dont know if its x2 or plus 100%

plus 100% = insanely broken

x2 = very weak

plus 100% means magnet titan will deal 2x 130% instead of 2x 30%

[lost jungle]

i also no idea how this game work anymore.. improve, increase, enhanced..

[onyx basalt]

x2 means....titan deals 2x60% instead of 2x 30%

[patent thistle]

So, we replace Gipsy with this one?

[lost jungle]

is it additive or multiply

[heavy needle]

@onyx basalt you said it was fake by you🤨

[onyx basalt]

everything is rounding error

this hero has a hidden gem

the ex5 gets stronger as the enemy loses units

much stronger

in fact if battles go down to HT vs HT

the ex5 gonna add 500% damage to every attack

so 40% chance to hit 50%x4, PLUS 500%

[wheat cypress]

Oh boy

[onyx basalt]

so 600% per attack

so at start of battle, he is only 40% chance to hit 50%x4 plus average 60%

at the end of battle its plus 500%

[rich forum]

8kCIIUPCzNlGp8qT1DD8/8KvMhffee1/OL03zilkyzIRaHe+7icjk3YNW9ZEXlmg

[patent thistle]

Sounds as a sound replacement for old Gipsy

[onyx basalt]

anyways

lets wait till its out

for me, i think navy needs to go

[mystic elm]

at the start of each round kek

[onyx basalt]

yes

[mystic elm]

you dont even need bryndir

[heavy needle]

Navy needs to go? Where?

[mystic elm]

just get more damage

[onyx basalt]

"at the start of each round" deal 500% dmg

its broke

[mystic elm]

and melt

[heavy needle]

In drain?

[patent thistle]

Yes

[onyx basalt]

this is 914

except it activates each turn

[mystic elm]

aksuka is godly with this i guess

[onyx basalt]

so think about the implication

ill run this with snake

so that sooo much damage is upfront

[heavy needle]

Es 7 op?

[onyx basalt]

no

ex5

[onyx basalt]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[mystic elm]

isnt it better with asuka?

[frail niche]

uh

[heavy needle]

Where your server at? 🤨

[frail niche]

miku just went from this hero is poopoo to this hero is a hidden gem and being excited as heck

im confused

[mystic elm]

with snakeeye also its pretty strong i guess both debuff

[onyx basalt]

4278

[mystic elm]

well at the start of each round

is key word

bet he didnt see that

[frail niche]

so new hero compared to gip

how's she?

[reef finch]

Who’s Neil?

[frail niche]

i assume it's like snake vs asuka right?

50-50

[mystic elm]

gipsy can retire now i guess

[onyx basalt]

^ my assumption

[reef finch]

Did they mean Nelle?

[patent thistle]

For sure

[onyx basalt]

added the ex5 effect as a bonus

ex5 effect is a bonus over gypsy

that being said gypsy is all unit

[frail niche]

only in ht vs ht fight

[onyx basalt]

no korty

in base defence

if the enemy unit count falls

u get stronger and stronger

[mystic elm]

think its better to pair with asuka because asuka trigger consume magnetic pulse damage for more damage and your nelle keep applying those pulse each round.

[frail niche]

o right the base def

i forgot

[onyx basalt]

or

wfac

[upper tide]

Note the damages from magnetic pulse are not dealt at the beginning of the turn but when DOT detonates (i.e. when Nelle/Asuka fires or at the end of the turn)

[onyx basalt]

or for example

[mystic elm]

but with snakeeye

[onyx basalt]

nelle-snake

snake = reduces enemy unit count

nelle = benefits as enemy loses unit

[mystic elm]

you can also do massave damage outright

[onyx basalt]

yeap

[orchid copper]

DOT is no problem

asuka is a spammer

[frail niche]

ok so lemme phrase this. If you have gip and run 1 march only, she's skippable. If you're a whale and run multiple marches, then she's a no brainer

[orchid copper]

high proc rate

[onyx basalt]

im going snake ex5 this hero ex5

screw logic

[onyx basalt]

Yes, it's obvious to whom this hero will be released

XD

[frail niche]

lol

[mystic elm]

snakeeye only triggers on first two row?

[onyx basalt]

Yet again the dev won this round and the people still sleeping

[mystic elm]

or is it brundiklr

[onyx basalt]

both

gypsy is +120%, +60%

[patent thistle]

Why skippable? Seems way better than old Gipsy?!

[onyx basalt]

this hero is +90%, +90%

so same effect on snake

[drowsy pulsar]

Like a new gypsy finally?

[onyx basalt]

this hero

snake + this hero

i feel like its insanely broken

[drowsy pulsar]

Is it trash Miku

[onyx basalt]

basically

[drowsy pulsar]

😂

[onyx basalt]

u got snake dealing upfront damage

and then this hero

[drowsy pulsar]

Finally a use for all those trolling magnet effects

[onyx basalt]

which deals upfront 500%

no minnow

bryn still garb fanservice hero for jail scene

[drowsy pulsar]

I think it looks good

[orchid copper]

sexy hero for dungeon mission

[onyx basalt]

bryn is only good for jail scene

[drowsy pulsar]

Plus special effect magnet stuff

[heavy needle]

Which HT?

[onyx basalt]

or tentacle monster dungeon skin

[drowsy pulsar]

Saw trooper magnets

[onyx basalt]

💀💀💀

[drowsy pulsar]

Surely

[mystic elm]

dont worry too much about numbers.

[onyx basalt]

Miku go out side pls

[deft umbra]

Hi

[heavy needle]

Fat HT with nelle?

[mystic elm]

yellow i guess?

[onyx basalt]

bro

The problem for whales is the the 3rd hero with indestructible buff which one is gonna be ?🫠

[mystic elm]

not only it is good at bursting

[onyx basalt]

i pokemon go 2-3 hours a day

rofl

[dense wind]

50% × 4 sounds like a way too low damage for a hero tbh

[onyx basalt]

sorium

this hero is borken

50% x 4 PLUS 500% at start of each turn

[frail niche]

eh, no.

[mystic elm]

the hero gets stronger

[heavy needle]

Ht?

[onyx basalt]

PLUS 500% at start of each turn = absolutely broken

[dense wind]

Well yes, the magnetic pulse difference is kinda huge

[orchid copper]

that Nelle design lol 😂

looks familiar

[heavy needle]

🤨

[onyx basalt]

u guys dont get

[dense wind]

Now

[onyx basalt]

how broken "500% damage at start of each turn" means

its absolutely broken

[heavy needle]

I was fooled

[onyx basalt]

Miku can i run her with gypsy? Cuz i don't wanna change ex.7 gypsy

[dense wind]

Bryn + Magnet Enhance + Magnet Addition effects + New Hero

[onyx basalt]

no

bryn is dead

no matter what

snake and asuka both beat bryn

[frail niche]

gip is: 120% atk buff front row, rest 60%. 2x 200% shot/proc, 250% on weakened stack, 2 weaken stack/ round at ex5, 35% proc rate
nell: 90% atk buff, 4x 50% missle, and a shit load of dot effect thingy

[orchid copper]

no gifs 😭

[dense wind]

Bryn gives Magnet effect

[onyx basalt]

yea

its still weak

[orchid copper]

SE also gives magnet

if you wanna

[dense wind]

So paired with this hero could work well

[dense wind]

Also Bryn is the hp giver hero

[onyx basalt]

bryn with nelle (403%-->436%)

[frail niche]

miku the 500% per round is low tho?

[onyx basalt]

asuka is 535%

[orchid copper]

there's no way to give up snake with bryn

[onyx basalt]

snake is 517%

asuka ex0 is 479%

asuka ex0 > bryn ex5 with nelle

[mystic elm]

well the way i see it.
nelle is good at applying pulse. and that comes with decent burst. also decent late round scaling because of it keeps applying pulse each round.
You can pair it with asuka to more explosion for pulses or
you can pair it with snakeeye which is good at bursting.

cant go wrong with both imo.

[onyx basalt]

basically

[heavy needle]

So better use asuka es5 with nelle es5?

[onyx basalt]

dont try to combo

with terrible fanservice heroes

nothing will save tywin or bradley

same goes to bryn

[patent thistle]

I would go Duke, Nelle, Snake

[mystic elm]

well tywin ex7 is thicc

[onyx basalt]

my opinion is

[mystic elm]

gotta get those odinium

[heavy needle]

Striker?

[onyx basalt]

snake-nelle

is the best main

for ex5,5

[patent thistle]

On air with me

[onyx basalt]

Gypsy-nelle ?

[mystic elm]

why stopat 5,5

go 7,7

[onyx basalt]

no

i only have 20k ex shard

so -2k -2k

16k left

[frail niche]

why not

ex7 ex5

use them all

[onyx basalt]

no

[frail niche]

🐳

[mystic elm]

at 7 you get 1.7x multiplier

[frail niche]

miku the game wont last for another 20 years

[onyx basalt]

the miltiplier is weak btw

unfortunately

it barely adds 20% to bryn

thats how bad it is

bryn 403%, brynnelleex5 436%

the change is too small

[mystic elm]

ok nelle also explose pulse effect on its own.

[onyx basalt]

UNLESS its plus 70% or plus 100%

if its plus

then unfortunately

its army meta

full effect magnetic

[frail niche]

oh shut up if it's plus then it's absolutely broken lol

🤣

[onyx basalt]

all titan = magnet effect

[severe zenith]

Anyone has the current scoring of 1248, 851 match up?

[mystic elm]

anyway

[onyx basalt]

2x30%-->2x130%

gg

[mystic elm]

titan gear 2.0

when?

[onyx basalt]

basically

ur hero attack once

u apply 6x130%

magnet

gg game

[mystic elm]

also dont forget to use magnetic field to their base.

so they cant tp.

full magnet.

[frail niche]

whales chat

[dense wind]

Wait

This is broken

[silent smelt]

Probably

It's TW

[dense wind]

ex7 Nelle is around +100% damage towards magnets

ex7 Bryn gives 60% × 4

Nelle ex7 + Bryn ex7 would be 160% × 4 just on Bryn

640% damage per normal hit

guaranted

[onyx basalt]

3 not 4

[wheat cypress]

Don't think u can have 2 sets of magnetics running

[drowsy pulsar]

I can’t wait to see who Neil is…

😂

[dense wind]

Ex7 gives another extra magnet

ex5 2 -> 3

ec7 3 -> 4

[wanton oak]

So bryn and Nelle go brrrr?

[drowsy pulsar]

lol

[dense wind]

This is the equivalent of a base Max with 100% trigger on all stacks

[drowsy pulsar]

Neil OP 🔥

[dense wind]

This is going to break the game

[onyx basalt]

bryn doesnt add initial burn

[vague flower]

😌

[onyx basalt]

also

[dense wind]

Magnets going to smelt everything down

[onyx basalt]

its like NOT plus 100%

its x2

so tis not that strong

unfortunately

[wheat cypress]

Normally it's half way through el we get something nutty 😅 not at the start

[onyx basalt]

My bad it's 4

[onyx basalt]

1618 meet 1248 first gate

[wanton oak]

So she’s nuts?

[patent thistle]

Seems to be

[dense wind]

Yes

[onyx basalt]

Titan 2.0

it's obvious the matchmaking
After 1248 not giving 1618 the new base, both in same el XD

[dense wind]

Nelle also gives Magnet on her own and special effects gives even more magnets

[wheat cypress]

Yea I'm exspecting that during el

[wanton oak]

I’ve stuck with bryn maybe I’ll get the new hero to replace gipsy

[sleek comet]

Same 😂

[onyx basalt]

Auction coming back in el

[sleek comet]

RIP Gems

[onyx basalt]

It's 💯 confirmed, lol

[wheat cypress]

Right before final fight proberly

[onyx basalt]

anyways

im getting this hero ex5, snake ex5

to stop myself from making ex7

my gutt feel is that

i need to stop hoarding stuffs

[wanton oak]

Miku u think new hero is good compared to asuka or u still think asuka is better?

[onyx basalt]

holy smokes

i can use girl skin on snake

ok

gg

this is it

[onyx basalt]

Different type of hero

Atk buff and HP buff

[wanton oak]

Eh asuka is atk buff too

[onyx basalt]

uh

i never thought of it that way rofl

its about equal

standalone

asuka is easier to combo tho

[wanton oak]

Tempted to replace gipsy

[onyx basalt]

If you wanna use new hero, you taking out gypsy. All I meant

[wanton oak]

Gotcha bud

I’ve been using bryn instead of asuka as my hp Enhancer atm anyway

[onyx basalt]

anyways

ill probably regret it but

im going snake ex5, nele ex5

ill pull the trigger

[wanton oak]

I will wait for the t-me tests

[onyx basalt]

my gut feel is

when ur entire march deals upfront damage

the combo just becomes beyond broken

[wanton oak]

No need for rof 10 🤣🤣

[onyx basalt]

combo that with

"at the start of every turn deal 500% damage" 914 effect

[sleek comet]

So at the start of every round at lvl 5 es she adds basically 130% mag Pulse to 5 stacks?

[onyx basalt]

lul

im assuming 60% x 1.7

x5

not 60% plus 70%

if this hero is plus 70%, this hero is beyond broken

like

as broken as "vitality plus" instead of damage increase

imagine if vitality is plus 100%

[wanton oak]

I thought vitality was horse shit😂

[onyx basalt]

and ur ships deal 140%x3 instead of 40% x3

[sleek comet]

And increases Bruns magnetic pulse to 100% at es5?

[onyx basalt]

my assumption is x1.7

so 15% magnet

becomes 22%

30% magnet becomes 44%

or something like that

can someone share fanservice pic

i wanna share with vivid server

the jail bryn

[red cape]

This new hero is op

[vestal hare]

Wat level do you have to be to see an EL?

[heavy needle]

Will asuka dot buff stack with nelle?

[frail niche]

[slow pagoda]

But asuka atk buff would also add ..so they bought hero which would support asuka

[slow pagoda]

Tommorow will tell

I am moving to army

[frail niche]

nell dont buff asuka at all tho?

[heavy needle]

That's huge damage if it's true

[slow pagoda]

It buyffs

[frail niche]

what

[grand kindle]

Aa

[frail niche]

did i miss

[heavy needle]

Es5 asuka

[frail niche]

?

[slow pagoda]

Asuka got dot and magnetic both

[frail niche]

but asuka and nell both dont have the ability to make magnetic

[heavy needle]

Yeah

[frail niche]

except for some few at ex5

which is insignificant

[slow pagoda]

But let hero come then only things will clear but for many it should replace gypsy if good ..since everyone got asuka on air 🤣

[heavy needle]

But both detonates magnetic pulse

[slow pagoda]

This year should be army then.

[heavy needle]

Hence I m building army

[onyx basalt]

stop trying to justify garbage fanservice heroes just because a meta hero has a sideeffect that benefits it a bit

asuka doesnt make bryn work, nor does this hero

bryn isnt fixable

its there for fanservice

jail scnee

free hero with jail

[heavy needle]

Fetish hero? Bryn?

[onyx basalt]

in new servers

they give bryn for free

and alsog gave a jail scene

of her

someone share please

[heavy needle]

Wtf

[heavy needle]

Are you serious?

[onyx basalt]

yes

[heavy needle]

That's obnoxious

[tranquil oracle]

where the f is layla replacement tho? are they saying duke who is mostly not even being used in navy is that hero?

wow messed up

lol

[onyx basalt]

wats navy

[tranquil oracle]

somehow navy is the red-headed stepchild

[heavy needle]

An equipment to not be used

[onyx basalt]

byebye navy equipment

[tranquil oracle]

lol

[onyx basalt]

next to green is the rest

[austere orbit]

Miku da whale 🐳

[austere orbit]

Buy everything

Miku

[onyx basalt]

cant wait for shop to open

hehe

[austere orbit]

Nelle asuka striker?🐋

Good or ass?

[onyx basalt]

nelle-snake

[heavy needle]

I have 3 bps for army

[austere orbit]

I am no snake 🐍

[heavy needle]

Hehehe

[fallow herald]

It’s an evil marketing strategy for people to be shunned away from Navy and start spending on Air Force. Then they will find a way to nerf Air Force and get everybody to spend on army and then the same thing with Navy. It’s just a vicious cycle it’s been a pattern for the last couple years now

[onyx basalt]

ready to becum army main

[tranquil oracle]

is crimson good for navy only or possible to use in another branch? looks like that is the only hero coming out for navy in a couple months

[slow pagoda]

True

[slow pagoda]

Next navy hero would be crimson replacement

[tranquil oracle]

this is true, but army was always the default branch, they normally shift back and forth between af/navy

[onyx basalt]

the thing is

a crimson replacement wont save my navy

[tranquil oracle]

yeah, but would crim be good on another branch

[onyx basalt]

my navy have no good buffer and no good idnes

also

i might as well just eureka-gypsy-asuka my navy

and treat ships as tanks

[heavy needle]

I m using Gipsy Crimson duke lol

On navy

So no loss

[tranquil oracle]

thats a decent navy march tho

[onyx basalt]

its actually

stronger than layla

XD

[heavy needle]

It is superb

[onyx basalt]

layla-crim-scrotum

this is tested btw :3

ex5,5,5 vs 5,5,5

[slow pagoda]

Acc obsolete

[onyx basalt]

no

gold bp now free with EL

just melt em

[heavy needle]

Kyun?

[wanton oak]

Sticking with bryn 🥹

[tranquil oracle]

interesting, so gip better than strom?

[onyx basalt]

so

no one posting bryn jail scene new server?

[slow pagoda]

Sala ab army bhi bajayega to jaye kaha 🤣

[onyx basalt]

i forgot who posted it

[tranquil oracle]

gip is broken then haha

[wanton oak]

I’ve seen it , loaded up new server account but think event gone

[heavy needle]

I m waiting on my power creep once army is perked

[tranquil oracle]

there is no world where a specific branch hero who is newer shouldn't outperform an older universal hero

otherwise, it isn't balanced

[slow pagoda]

Will see if navy gets good hero or Collab will decide my future 🤣

[tranquil oracle]

and the difference should be significant

[onyx basalt]

When is nelle coming

[tepid sorrel]

tomorrow

[slow pagoda]

Tommorow reset

[heavy needle]

As of now it should be Gipsy 2.0 aka storm shadow

[onyx basalt]

Thanks

[slow pagoda]

Hmm.....

[heavy needle]

Hunch

[slow pagoda]

I need to have patience now 🤣

[onyx basalt]

ill be honest

2023 my investment was

kum, gypsy, eureka

skipped everything

[slow pagoda]

Miku turning army 🤣

[wanton oak]

2/3 not so bad

[onyx basalt]

no

kum is still meta up to today for me

since i use max

:3

bigbigbig fan of max

[tranquil oracle]

wow u are a big whale haha

[wanton oak]

Asuka on ur army then miku?

[onyx basalt]

also if max gets hero return

[tranquil oracle]

same company as me tho, i was using yuu pretty recently lol

[onyx basalt]

i will ex7

100%

ex7 max

or ex8

with gems

[wanton oak]

Lol

[onyx basalt]

people just dont get how broken max-kum is XD as long as u keep ur mid row alive

[tranquil oracle]

max was legit broken for 1.5 years

[heavy needle]

Yeh thoda jyada ho gaya @slow pagoda

[onyx basalt]

i will ex7

definitely

[fickle beacon]

[austere orbit]

Buff army

[tranquil oracle]

is he really that good, that it makes more sense to exc7 him instead of exc5 a new hero/

[austere orbit]

More buffs

[tranquil oracle]

or just for the sense of having a es7

?

[austere orbit]

Max is max

[fickle beacon]

Tw will give u sauvage

[onyx basalt]

its the only hero that legit

abuses HT mechanic and mid-row only mechanics

6303% with only 3 vals

babi only gets 4500%

[tranquil oracle]

interesting

[onyx basalt]

the problem is of course, ur mid row dies fast if it gets hit

[hardy fern]

That was Maplelyn. Next would be Stromoy replacement. Maybe.
But this is Top War so the next hero will likely be Air force

[onyx basalt]

but if u got wfac, or stat advantage, or eureka, or good stats in general

and keep ur mid row alive

[tranquil oracle]

mapelyn is crim replacement

[austere orbit]

Next hero is also army

[tranquil oracle]

or it should have been

[onyx basalt]

no

maplelyn = fanservice hero

[tranquil oracle]

but she sux

[onyx basalt]

garb

[austere orbit]

I will skip nelle

[onyx basalt]

im not

[austere orbit]

She kinda thiccc tho

[tranquil oracle]

mapelyn worse than yuu

lol

[onyx basalt]

im going ex5 nelle ex5 snake

hehehe

4k ex shards

lets go

[austere orbit]

Me no snake

Only

Asuka striker 5 and mega

Need to replace mega da beach boi

He too slow

[onyx basalt]

he is tywin now

[austere orbit]

[onyx basalt]

hmm oh yea

[tranquil oracle]

mega is so old, but way better than tywin

[onyx basalt]

this new hero...might be anti-boss

o.O

and uh

ur actually right

wait a minute

lemme check this hero again

X_X

[austere orbit]

Let's wait for tmi evaluation

[onyx basalt]

this hero got DOT?

[tranquil oracle]

its just crazy how much of a gap there is between mega and new heros

yes, alot of DOT

[undone grotto]

No

[tranquil oracle]

and also DOT detonation

[undone grotto]

Just magnet

[onyx basalt]

ah no

"If the hit target has the Magnetic Pulse effect, it detonates all Magnetic Pulse effects, resolving and consuming all Magnetic Pulse. This hero's skill will prioritize attacking enemy units with the Magnetic Pulse effect."

[undone grotto]

Bunch of magnet dmg inc

[onyx basalt]

no damage bonus on detonation

=.=

[tranquil oracle]

isn't magnet just one type of DOT?

[onyx basalt]

F this game

[open vessel]

what new hero yall talking about

[onyx basalt]

gg

[open vessel]

where is leak

[onyx basalt]

this hero cancels out asuka effect rofl

why

oh why

[undone grotto]

This hero just buff out the magnet affect

[tranquil oracle]

yeah it accelerates it

[undone grotto]

Like 70% with it es5

[tranquil oracle]

which is better

[onyx basalt]

im confident that ill go snake 5 nelle 5

so yeah

im tired

[undone grotto]

With se it will go up to 115%

[onyx basalt]

i dont wanna this game to end with me having 40k ex shard

f this game

i need to spend it

i spent $400+ accumulating ex shards

[undone grotto]

115% magnet dmg

[onyx basalt]

all that $5+$1/day adds up like crazy

[undone grotto]

Is a lot

[buoyant tusk]

Nelle coming when?

[left gorge]

24hrs 18min?

[buoyant tusk]

I see

[fickle beacon]

[slow pagoda]

Get new hero

[slow pagoda]

Maplelyn isn't replacement..it's new server hero

[slow pagoda]

It will come in 2026 may be

Max is still good. It won't come in heros return that soon

Now navy shouldnt go back to rage system 🙈

[austere orbit]

Waiting

[tranquil oracle]

if it went back to rage system

[hardy fern]

Alternative then. Since Crimson is t coming back.

[tranquil oracle]

omg

[young peak]

korea

[red cape]

Yo

@onyx basalt

Stat value get lower by time right

i mean

if i have 2% def

then that second 1% is weaker than the first 1% right

[onyx basalt]

yea

but def is still ur lowest stat

so its still the best to get

so if one day

u got 300 dmgdec and 1000 def

then dmgdec will be 3x-4x more valuable

[frail niche]

Still don’t rly get the idea of max kum anymore.. I beat those people daily

[onyx basalt]

watch the replays

basically

if ur stat is overwhelming such that his mid row dies fast

that means its not the max zone

max zone = abuse of eureka, good HT, mid vals, good hp from kum+double indes + triple indes front lines

and wfac

basically, the more overwhelming ur stats/units/advantage, the stronger this march, and u dont risk much

cuz ur front/backrow is low lv units

and val gets repair bay priority

[frail niche]

this is the main point lmao

[onyx basalt]

in short

u only win in "controlled arena" battles

in real battles

air gets free val, wfac advantage

and low unit cost advantage

[frail niche]

in short if you want to abuse max kum you have to use it under wfac with much better stats

gotcha

[onyx basalt]

i think equal stats is strong too

u just need to abuse vals

those things are bonkers

[lusty warren]

What about regular units??

[frail niche]

i disagree

[onyx basalt]

basically

as long as u play to ur advantages

u can abuse max

[lusty warren]

Max Kum mid row with regular units in wfac works??

[onyx basalt]

yeah

[frail niche]

well real fights speak for my points

[onyx basalt]

ur other units are just dead stuffs

[frail niche]

🤷‍♂️ i kick max kum striker marches on daily basis

[onyx basalt]

ur damage output is 85% from ur mid row

[frail niche]

it's the same concept as army front row lol

[lusty warren]

Hmmm
Suicide march

[onyx basalt]

remember

val has a x1.5 bonus

no

[lusty warren]

Just to dish out max damage

[onyx basalt]

its not a suicide march

its a legit march

its actually a high statproduct march

6303% is no joke

[lusty warren]

I mean with small no of units

[onyx basalt]

most marches are 4000%

ur basically abusing HT, vals, midrow mechanic, and double triple invul on the mid rows

to push ur statproduct up

[lusty warren]

Hmmm
I ll be using that march in my tower in EL!!

Which is 3rd hero??

[onyx basalt]

indes

[lusty warren]

Gypsy or Shinji to partner??

[onyx basalt]

this is the example maths

note that max still have lower effective hp

which is why it dies fast

barbie has most units being 1700%/500%

while max have mid row 5000%/350%

[lusty warren]

I don't understand so much maths
I ll just take it and try it haha

[onyx basalt]

yeah in short, as long as battles are long

through wfac/val advantage/whatever

max will outperform

[lusty warren]

Got it

[onyx basalt]

the shorter the battle = the weaker max is, but if its too short, max is strong again

i think 1.5 turn-2.5 turn is max being the weakest

<1 turn and >3 turn is where max is the strongest

[lusty warren]

Like against player with 1000 more HP attack stat

You can attack only once and give max damage

But as a defender in wfac we are at disadvantage isn't it??
Attacker will attack first and if has HT with attack speed GG game over

[summer night]

Anyone remember when Duke was added? .

[summer night]

Not always 😉

[onyx basalt]

never attack anything

with air

rofl

[lusty warren]

Just defend??

[summer night]

Lancaster exist, just defend with air

[lusty warren]

But attacker won't get rof advantage??

[onyx basalt]

yeah

[summer night]

You want navy for attack, meanwhile navy dosent exist

[lusty warren]

Don't have his ex 5
I am fish haha

[onyx basalt]

attack never gets rof advatnage

thats why u def

also

air = free val race

so u wanna def

[lusty warren]

Ohhh under wfac

Got it

[onyx basalt]

attack with army imo

army has ignore rof heroes

[lusty warren]

Which are??

[frail niche]

Bruh i swear

This game

THE FUCK

[onyx basalt]

relax bro

ur far from 1k key

=.=

[slow pagoda]

First day of expedition gave me blue shards and some red vouchers for wasting 20 big vit botttlea

[frail niche]

I swear I spent like 40k gems before and never got one

now I did 3 free spins and got 2

[frail niche]

Hey I wasted one bottle, got one back

and a bunch of gold chests

[lusty warren]

Those ranking are useless why waste VIT??

[frail niche]

He whale

[austere orbit]

Monki whale

[slow pagoda]

Other acc got valuable stuff .22 orange shards and other things 🤣

[slow pagoda]

Lalach 🤣

[unreal tapir]

The 2k servers are not even doing much.

[slow pagoda]

They know it's useless to waste resources in your group

[mystic elm]

gotta grind for that prestige 15% hp

[unreal tapir]

Gathering is better imo

[mystic elm]

really?

[lusty warren]

With whales battlefield how much 15% is worth lol

[mystic elm]

didnt know

[lusty warren]

For newer servers yes

[wanton sigil]

They are busy chatting here

[slow pagoda]

People fight for rank 4

[wanton sigil]

And claiming they are too big

Lol 🤣

[lusty warren]

15% won't make difference in any battle

[wanton sigil]

Top chat for life 🧬🧬🧬

[lusty warren]

Better to gather peacefully lol

[mystic elm]

peacefully

[lusty warren]

They are safe till EL battle ends

[mystic elm]

pretty sure once capital area is opened if you are in smol sever el basically ends

[lusty warren]

That's half the duration

Stay behind gate 1

[slow pagoda]

You think they will be allowed beyond gate 1 or would be thrown out of map

[lusty warren]

Create problems for whale servers

Distract the

And enjoy farming

[slow pagoda]

Need to have fire power even to distract 🤣

[mystic elm]

100 bucks say that they will be thrown out of el maps one or two days after capital area is opened

[unreal tapir]

Servers are safe in their Zone 1 until Zone 4 (where the Eternal City is) opens.

[lusty warren]

As long as EL battle is happening no one will care about them

[slow pagoda]

I say when gate 1 opens 🤣

[mystic elm]

50m players aint doing jackshit to “distract” whales

[lusty warren]

One side you have 851 whales and you think 1248 will waste players on clearing those servers??

As long as they farm peacefully i don't think anybody will pay attention to them

[mystic elm]

oh you think 1248 will be the one kicking them out? 😂

[lusty warren]

Just example

Let's hope 1248 and 1618 make alliance!!

Clear 851 out of EL map again

😂🤣

[mystic elm]

it would be fun to see but very unlikely. they allied with 1270

and 851 and 1618 together

[lusty warren]

Ohhh shoot

That's totally boaring

[mystic elm]

welll dont quote me on that. its just what i read also.

[lusty warren]

What's the point of getting 2216 whales if you gonna allies with 1618

[mystic elm]

no idea. 🤷

but yeah true.

[lusty warren]

If 851 allies with 1618 then they don't need MBB

[unreal tapir]

851 will face little resistance until Zone 4

[slow pagoda]

I wanted 1618 and 1248 to ally and fight 851

[lusty warren]

He must be cheer girl lol

[mystic elm]

that would be fun to watch.

[lusty warren]

MBB cheering on sidelines

[mystic elm]

it would make it closer.

[lusty warren]

And having more boring EL then 2216

[woeful plume]

Haha

[lusty warren]

Heya

[woeful plume]

Hi mate

[lusty warren]

2798 is here

[woeful plume]

👀👀

[lusty warren]

Why didn't robin and diego moved to play EL somewhere??

[slow pagoda]

Instead 1720 +1248 +1618 vs 851 🙈... popcorn

[woeful plume]

I’m still earning my badge

[lusty warren]

1248+1618 is enough

[mystic elm]

not sure about that

[woeful plume]

I can’t speak for them but 2798 is there server and I’m sure they are currently happy here

[slow pagoda]

Probably not ..

[icy parcel]

35k wtf

They are even playing ?

[mystic elm]

would be fun to see for sure if that was the case.

[lusty warren]

779 and 913 and 935 pushed back 851 last year

[slow pagoda]

They might move out once el is over. Before entering into total warzone

[mystic elm]

but 851+1618 can turn ugly for 1248 imo

[woeful plume]

Always possible

[wanton sigil]

Is it mandatory?

[lusty warren]

Nah just boring

[slow pagoda]

It was different case....i don't think they can take out mbb

[wanton sigil]

Can't people just breathe and enjoy personal life lol 🤣

[woeful plume]

No fun apprently lol

[lusty warren]

Motto and Malik and maf

[mystic elm]

can people make quility meme

[wanton sigil]

Come for coffee ☕☕

N chill in 2798

[lusty warren]

And MBB can't be everywhere everytime

[wanton sigil]

No need to fight 💪

[lusty warren]

You guys going on 591 path i see

[wanton sigil]

We stay together ❣️ whatever

[unreal tapir]

I have more points compared to an entire server

[wanton sigil]

Not going to do gimmicks

[lusty warren]

In 2222??

[slow pagoda]

Why he need to be everywhere. He need to be where when gate 3 opens ..

[mystic elm]

may be they are aiming for top4 and farm

[lusty warren]

Ya and how to manage 2 prong attack??

[wanton sigil]

Yes there too ... Bring your alt in 2222 n main in 2798

[lusty warren]

One side motto and 1248
Other side 1618

[wanton oak]

Two marches

[loud gulch]

Woop

[slow pagoda]

Last time 851 has all these server around...but now all are opposite side. So it will be difficult to even push them inside gate 3.

[lusty warren]

EL is battle of endurance

Nope they faced 851 in last area only

[unreal tapir]

Top 10 is competitive

[lusty warren]

Well upto 1248 and 1618 how they want to play out

But one thing is sure
MBB taking back many 851 whales

[wanton sigil]

Wth 😬😬😬 i just saw your rank 2

[lusty warren]

2216 wins in any scenario

😂🤣

[wanton sigil]

1248 is gone crazy 🤣

[slow pagoda]

But gate 1 or 2 they pushed 779 back then 1035 also I think

[wanton sigil]

Guy wasted 22500 troops lol

[lusty warren]

Nope

1035 only

779 had Ali

[floral crow]

Does mastery go past lvl 20

[lusty warren]

And that's that

[mystic elm]

well if i were in 1618 shoes i would totally allied with 851 to get even top3

[wanton sigil]

Not yet

[floral crow]

Gotcha wanted to make sure

[mystic elm]

if 1248 offers me 2nd place i might risk it against 851z

[lusty warren]

If 1618 1248 and 1720 allies 851 can't fight all of them

[mystic elm]

just different scenarios

[sick meteor]

Can’t compete with vivid 😰

[unreal tapir]

[lusty warren]

He is gonna go on spending spree

[wanton sigil]

You see 🙈🙈🙈 that guy on top 🎩🎩

[lusty warren]

Neways
See ya later
Good night!!

[wanton sigil]

wasted 22500 troops lol

[mystic elm]

xd

[wanton sigil]

How they even have that many troops

[unreal tapir]

First 2 hours of donating troops coincided with unit training arms race.

[summer night]

You know that is not only from troops, right?

[wanton sigil]

Still bro

[sick meteor]

1k gems > being able to fight in EL

[unreal tapir]

First few days of EL proper will just be used for gathering. They still have time to train troops and flex Kuruzo's skill.

[mystic elm]

if you arent winning with 2k troops, i dont think having 20k doesnt change much

considering how big some are.

if you are smol players just donate all

[lost jungle]

1 mil that like whole life saving unit choice chest + from ruin

[mystic elm]

you get alot during ud

if you fights

[lost jungle]

it expire after ud

oh that one yea..

but not that many i think

[onyx basalt]

uh

maybe ill skip snake

rofl

T_T

[mystic elm]

those troops are trained using normal timer and you fet them as items which i think is pretty gucci

[onyx basalt]

actually

i dont wanna risk it on snake

[mighty echo]

Hello

[onyx basalt]

snake is a weak asuka

and unit specific

so uh ima play nelle asuka

[lost jungle]

nah snake strong!

🐍

[slow pagoda]

Nelle is also unit specific

[onyx basalt]

yeah

but nelle frees up gypsy

[mystic elm]

nelle+ asuka works even nelle doesnt trigger at all.

[onyx basalt]

and gypsy > brady/cornstarch/kum/scrotum

whic h means

nelle > brady/cornstarch/kum/scrotum

despite being different unit type

[mystic elm]

you just want to apply the pulse each round. and asuka will do the job

[loud gulch]

I’m just happy to bully navy mains

[heavy needle]

Which chipset is good on army?

[slow pagoda]

But issue is asuka is being used in air .. for now difficult to put asuka in army 🙈

[onyx basalt]

Only when taken to ES 5

[slow pagoda]

Xyston

[mystic elm]

all chips are ok as long as you have good stats.

[loud gulch]

should I get a March skin or level 3 chests 😂

SEAL🫣

[onyx basalt]

But Asuka been Universal make is better