📱│game-discussion

[onyx basalt]

nope. at least not for me

[dense matrix]

Why do I have this feeling River games just upped the requirements secretly on everyone trying to keep folks from constantly transferring backwards

[frail niche]

So we are having el right after huh

yikes

[onyx basalt]

idk.. my tickets haven’t jumped since i was 40m cp. currently 81m lol

[dense matrix]

Are you maxed out on tickets needed? 😂

[onyx basalt]

nope, 47 tickets

yes. they sent it in whatsapp

[random stratus]

Ok ty 😊

[trim cipher]

Yay

[simple wadi]

Did m7md quit? Can’t find a trace of him

[orchid copper]

engineer

[covert flame]

Better say ken

[charred brook]

Kai good?

[orchid copper]

EL!

I'm ready to craft my second gold rocket

but then it's done

rip tokens

[pale reef]

all in 24/7 non sleep mode

https://tenor.com/view/ynosleep-elmo-fire-why-no-sleep-body-why-no-sleep-body-y-no-sleep-gif-27636616

[lusty warren]

Any news on EL??

[pale reef]

yes

after ud

[spice pumice]

Yup that's it's start on 12 Feb

[lusty warren]

Ohhh

[spice pumice]

Where is Battle report Chanel

[pale reef]

here

[lusty warren]

But no official announcement yet right??

[pale reef]

[spice pumice]

I want to share this Scariest report 😅

[orchid copper]

all in all in

EL all in vit caps

[lusty warren]

You made it in your own right??

[orchid copper]

top 200 easy tokens

[spice pumice]

This msg is sent by river game to Vip16 player

[lusty warren]

Ohhh

[spice pumice]

On WhatsApp coustomer care

[pale reef]

lmao. is from rivergame

.

[orchid copper]

poor S3090

[orchid copper]

if you don't trust rivergame, trust maymi

[devout ice]

Pretty sure 3090 is a Chinese server

[pale reef]

[devout ice]

That’s how these things usually go

[pale reef]

finally we can have real fun at EL

be waiting so long

[lusty warren]

Let's hope EL matchmaking is better this time

[orchid copper]

EL is not really considered as "big event"

[lusty warren]

10 weeks of boring UD and then onther 21 days of boring EL
I don't wanna leave game yet

[orchid copper]

used to be

[pale reef]

for sure nice matching this time EL

[orchid copper]

but UD is not the biggest event for tw universe atm

[spice pumice]

It's always same like previously so don't do much expectations 😅

[lusty warren]

No info in TWC channel yet

[orchid copper]

define nice matchmaking?

1 whale server and 7 dead servers

[pale reef]

whale vs whale, small fish vs small fish

[orchid copper]

easy

[pale reef]

8 whale server VS lol

[spice pumice]

.yup it's always like that

[devout ice]

This is typical lol

[pale reef]

[orchid copper]

just make EL championship already

all top 8 servers into one map

total chaos 24/7

[spice pumice]

That's not possible 😅

[orchid copper]

surely everyone will complain and quit in the process

[pale reef]

like EL can do like how SVS does then sure be nicee

[spice pumice]

After some more whale will leave the game 😅

[pale reef]

we dont demanf more

we need is balance matching

games must base on active players who teamwork play

not just whale server monopoly the EL then bored

[orchid copper]

considering the next wave of quitting players, would be hard for the rigged system to determine server's strength if their players quits

[pale reef]

[orchid copper]

would be pretty tricky

[pale reef]

like always we demanf balance matching

[orchid copper]

since EL is very near to UD so hard to detect which one is inactive

[pale reef]

now SVS did very great

so we appreciated

now we need is EL matching must be fair enough

[native jolt]

What if all in one map hahahah

[lusty warren]

All in tiger all in
No other option

[native jolt]

And have to build one alliance to win

[orchid copper]

all in one map is basically UD

[native jolt]

Every single player

[orchid copper]

and UD is ultimate deals

[pale reef]

ALL IN FAIR MATCHING FOR EL

[native jolt]

24/7 battle

[pale reef]

[orchid copper]

tbh EL championship would be fire as hell

people will hate each other to the core

24/7 battle

[lusty warren]

Ketan had good idea for top star
With UD like format
Wish apply same for EL lol
Winning server joins you and move on to next EL map hahaha

[orchid copper]

lots of F words

[native jolt]

El is good if there is lots of backstabbing

The best

[pale reef]

we just let it to devs make this coming EL much better games matching for all of us to enjoy it

[orchid copper]

update the gold bp from EL store tbh

[pale reef]

yes

make it choice GBP

[orchid copper]

but I think we can expect something new from EL store tho

[pale reef]

let player have happy new year 2024

[orchid copper]

probably another EL base skin

[lusty warren]

Make it 3 choosable gold BP lol

I need 3 hahaha

[pale reef]

then we will continue all in

[lusty warren]

It's fine if they exclude PJ

[pale reef]

[orchid copper]

pulse jammer useless

[pale reef]

jammer must be vip12

[orchid copper]

we just want people to have the ability and a chance to unlock remould

[lusty warren]

I just want to hoard GBP

[pale reef]

that we cant demand it to be fair

[lusty warren]

🤣

[pale reef]

[orchid copper]

remould is literally behind 4 golds wall

[pale reef]

we just need choice GBP chest on EL redeem store TQ

[orchid copper]

if they update that gold bp, I will do all in vit caps

idc if whale servers doing solo EL

[pale reef]

we all in no matter how

[orchid copper]

as long as we get those choice gold bp, all is good

[pale reef]

we are stick on TW by the way

[modest linden]

[dusky sentinel]

Wait guys,. EL incoming after UD?

[pale reef]

yes babe

[modest linden]

Yeah

[pale reef]

all in bbq time

[modest linden]

All out

[lusty warren]

You need to get VIP 16 super fast!!

They getting all leaks beforehand it seems

[vital loom]

bro

this guy saying my pfp breaks TOS because my lion is not wearing clothes🤣🤣

[pale reef]

https://tenor.com/view/war-tank-top-war-tablet-military-vehicles-river-game-gif-19386831

[devout ice]

I’ll post this again to show people what the current transfer cycle timeline looks like

[vital loom]

18th is when cycle resets

then the 2nd

[devout ice]

There should be two cycles between the end of UD and it closing for EL

[loud gulch]

Is it just the crit luck? I know striker different proc rates but the gypsy is the same yet mine does a lot less damage

This makes no sense, I have more attack and dmg inc yet do less damage?!

[native jolt]

Who attacking

[loud gulch]

Left

[vital loom]

hmmm

[native jolt]

Wrong vals

[loud gulch]

It’s all I have tbh

But still

[reef peak]

you;re having defend vals

[orchid copper]

@wanton sigil would you able to jump up before EL?

[vital loom]

yo I got a question lol

[loud gulch]

My vals get no buffs, his gets no buffs so it’s level 103 vs 103

[reef peak]

also you have less march size, lower formation

[loud gulch]

But that changes the dmg by that much? 👁️👁️

[reef peak]

the atk, dmg gap are just 200%/9%

not quite big gap tbh

[native jolt]

Lmao that is quite a lot

[reef peak]

he had 23 hits

[native jolt]

Try defending

[reef peak]

yours are 14

[native jolt]

Those vals rlly good on defense

[reef peak]

that means he's stronger than you in basic damage

[loud gulch]

I just don’t get what’s happening👁️👁️

[reef peak]

he cleared your troops sooner

also check replay

gipsy could trigger from HT

then it would make huge different dmg gap

[loud gulch]

My troops do less dmg and he kills me quicker when yes he has more hp and dmg dec

[reef peak]

also yeah like u said

[loud gulch]

But 4 times in a row -_-

[reef peak]

crit, hit as well

[orchid copper]

you have to pay attention to not only more attack and dmg inc, your damage has been reduced a lot because defensive stats scales with several stats such as dmg dec, DEF stats (important), then indes heroes

[orchid copper]

your enemy have much higher DEF on AF

27%

[native jolt]

Does he have ex 7? His trigger dmg is double yours tf

[loud gulch]

I outspeed

[loud gulch]

Excl6 gypsy rest are excl 5

[reef peak]

you're literally weaker tbh

[native jolt]

Ya like jelly said spend 10k rn

[reef peak]

hey i didnt say so

[loud gulch]

So dmg dec scales with def?

[orchid copper]

[native jolt]

Like jelly said spend 100k rn

[orchid copper]

tells a lot

[native jolt]

Isnt it even

[loud gulch]

5% more def

[native jolt]

Silly dronex 27+35

[loud gulch]

Is that a huge difference? That causes me to do 30T less dmg

[devout ice]

DEF makes a huge multiplier

[loud gulch]

With dmg dec? Or just alone?

[native jolt]

Are all your attacks vs him the same?

[loud gulch]

Yeah

[reef peak]

vals, regular hits, HT, crit, hit, dodge,... you want to check these as well

[loud gulch]

4 attacks 👁️👁️

[orchid copper]

can we just watch replays lol

I think the enemy managed to destroy the mid row from striker's earlier

[loud gulch]

And I attack first as well🫠

[native jolt]

Hmm its usually ex that makes a big diff for me when its like that

[reef peak]

less march size, lower formation,...

[orchid copper]

between mid or front row

[devout ice]

You were attacking with a defense HT

[native jolt]

But tw just hates y honestly

[orchid copper]

how about

titan special effects

[loud gulch]

Only I have 1

And there Ht got all crits with hero procs -_-

First round

I’m not even kidding

I’ve looked at 2 attacks

The same proc rates with his Ht

All crits on hero procs with HT

[native jolt]

Tw loves him

[loud gulch]

AND ATTACKING THE SAME BACK TROOPS

[orchid copper]

probably enemy HT proc somehow one shot gipsy row, or striker row

[native jolt]

Also i just realised

[orchid copper]

if he hit striker row then damage sharing is dead

[native jolt]

Wtf gypsy on air

[loud gulch]

3 replays

3 replays

He gets a hero proc

Crit

On my back row

[loud gulch]

Maximo just wasn’t doing anything

🫣

[reef peak]

i think there is nothing wrong with the battle result

try him like 9 more times

[loud gulch]

So I should upgrade my Def and HP?

[reef peak]

and see the average result

[loud gulch]

As that is better than dmg inc and attack?

[reef peak]

atk speed > march size > DEF > dmg inc > dmg dec > atk/hp/crit....

these are priority stats

but look

[loud gulch]

Well I attack first so don’t need that

[reef peak]

don't compare yourselt to a specific player too much

they might have spent more than you

[loud gulch]

They have lol

[reef peak]

then it's fair

[loud gulch]

VIP 11 vs Vip13

[reef peak]

to see them stronger than you

u also dont want to lose to a vip 9 , dont you

[orchid copper]

dead striker lol

yeah then make sense then, no damage sharing then byebye

[reef peak]

you attack with defend vals ?

oh but that means they defend with offend vals

[still crown]

Soooo EL straight after UD

[reef peak]

yayyyy

good news

[loud gulch]

I’ll just upgrade March size and Def

I will just get 2 more 16x HT chips and I can get double DEF middle chip

[loud gulch]

He got the same troop 3 replays in a row

It’s crazy luck👁️👁️

Mine hits his gold plane

His hits my back row

[orchid copper]

back row hitting is generally bad tho

unless killing the unit behind the HT

disables the damage sharing to kill the HT easier

[loud gulch]

I mean it wasn’t behind the HT

[orchid copper]

if your HT dies earlier then also a byebye moment

[spice drift]

Oh my there is a lot of strategy

[loud gulch]

It’s just like yeah he has 6 March size more & 6% def, and 100% HP and 17% dmg dec more, but I attack first and have 200% more attack and 6% more dmg inc I guess the dmg dec counters that buff tbh

So I better just increase my Def, dmg dec, Hp and March size

Only this HT other than the one I use I have level 101

[frail niche]

It all depends on which stack procs

for example his first row proc, damaging your first row

23/23 troop stack is gonna deal a shit load more than 9/23

[lusty thunder]

Hello everyone

[frail niche]

Hi welcome to hell

[tired fable]

Guys what are the perks that must be obtained for better resources collection?

[sick grail]

Messed up

[kindred sorrel]

1 cycle or 2 cycle for transfer before UD 🤣

[chilly solar]

[loud gulch]

29th Jan game time reset is 28th reset @wanton sigil ?

Wait no I moved on the 22nd December

Game reset was 3am for me on the 22nd

So reset - 13

00:00 game time = 3am, reset = 4pm

[pale reef]

Can't move lol

[chilly solar]

2 cycle

[pale reef]

UD panel end 28th

29th EL

All stay quietly can wait for bbq

[chilly solar]

EL is boring bcoz they always messed up match ups

[pale reef]

Sure nice matching now EL

We demand it

[chilly solar]

We always do

but when did they listen

[pale reef]

SVS did

Now EL also

[chilly solar]

[pale reef]

Sure fair matching

[kindred sorrel]

770 and 2216 together

[pale reef]

[loud gulch]

I hope EL gives me fair matchmaking

As this SVS matchmaking isn’t ever fair🫠

Higher CP and more active opponents

[pale reef]

Svs matching look good nowadays

[fluid grotto]

any announcement of the EL dates?

[orchid copper]

tbh would be funny as hell if they place 2216 and angela's server there 😂

[loud gulch]

Just the starting time so far and server distance

No 3141 though 👁️👁️ they just miss EL

[orchid copper]

they don't really care about that one, they might getting some svs instead 😅

[sick grail]

Watch them put all the big servers together 🤣

[loud gulch]

I just want some fights and not a silly strong server

[orchid copper]

massive riot

"we want fights!"

[loud gulch]

I don’t want 2798 🤣

[sick grail]

2216+2798+770+851+835+1248 who else

[orchid copper]

devs be like: ok, EL for top 8 servers then

then people will be like: wtf why putting all of us in one map?

[loud gulch]

How about Karahan server?

2937 I think

[orchid copper]

overkill

better let those top 8 servers dying first

[sick grail]

They can't stand the own against any of those

[orchid copper]

😂

[loud gulch]

Yeah true Karahan needs an auction first

[sick grail]

They would milk money out of troops needed

[orchid copper]

put 2216 and 2798 as neighbours

lmao

[kindred sorrel]

15 days fight

In EL chat

[glad gull]

835 lol

[orchid copper]

I would volunteer to increase my alt to level 45 only to watch their EL chat

[mental shadow]

贈り物をお願いします。

[pallid birch]

tbh i only play el for the fighting so am happy to fight zone 1

[glad gull]

#🌍│language-select

[sick grail]

Stfu I had brain moment 🤣

[glad gull]

You are never smart

[sick grail]

[glad gull]

[kindred sorrel]

[mental shadow]

贈り物をお願いします。

[sick grail]

No you.play it scout people thousands of times

[orchid copper]

2798 in that EL when all hoppers already hopped up:

[pallid birch]

wut

[austere orbit]

Y'all monkeys

C:D

[mental shadow]

Burning this guy

[kindred sorrel]

🔥

[gentle cloud]

guys is there a way i can unbind an email to my account?

[austere orbit]

Go back to my basement

[pallid birch]

maybe i'll be farmer mushroom this time

[austere orbit]

Who let you out

[kindred sorrel]

No

[pallid birch]

i have enough to get first in el if i don't sleep

[glad gull]

Burn young lady

[pallid birch]

i've never been burned in el

tbh it's easier to not get burned than it is to get burned in el regardless of your size

[glad gull]

Time to change that

[orchid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-8955300

we are dangerous monkeys

🐒

[austere orbit]

No wonder you are a registered sax offender

[pallid birch]

you'll have to chain me nd magnet me like 10 min in advanced to catch me

but not worth waste on whale instead

[austere orbit]

Mad miku

[glad gull]

You are a whale

[austere orbit]

Niggasmile

[pallid birch]

lie

f2p

check me cp

[glad gull]

120M

[austere orbit]

180

[pallid birch]

[austere orbit]

[frail plaza]

bruv wtf

as much as i want EL but

its right on chinese new year

[orchid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-mario-plumber-marioandluigi-supermariobros-gif-27552254

[pale reef]

[austere orbit]

When el

12?

[pale reef]

Nice la

[austere orbit]

Haiyaaa

[pale reef]

Holiday mah

[orchid copper]

when gacha?

[pale reef]

Next year

[orchid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-nigel-ng-comedian-haiyaa-no-msg-gif-26884930

[pale reef]

Does GIJOE part 2 on EL

One shot all in

[orchid copper]

yea

EL then add gi.joe in the middle

all in events goooo

[pale reef]

Yeah

Happy Chinese new year all in

https://tenor.com/view/rabbits-bunnies-rabbit-bunny-chinese-new-year-gif-24688374

[loud gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/line-friends-brown-cny-chinese-new-year-gif-12327339

[pale reef]

🆓

Less gambling on new year, all in TW

[quartz ledge]

Airforce Troops : Brady , Maximo , Seline ? What other hero 3HM can I use to better my battles ?

[onyx basalt]

u need eureka

[quartz ledge]

Replace Eureka with whom ?

It’s a level 3 skill atm

Eureka or Shinji ?

[frail plaza]

replace selina with eureka

[onyx basalt]

yeah lv3 eureka will beat up any hero

in that march

[pale reef]

[quartz ledge]

Thank you guys eureka lvl 3 skill over shinji lvl 5 skill

[onyx basalt]

wait

u didnt say shinji

=.=

uh use shinji then

[pale reef]

Yeah 😂

[onyx basalt]

Brady , Maximo , Seline-->indes

uh

brady ex5?

[onyx basalt]

perosnally

i wont be surprised if eu 3 rekts shinji 5

do some testing

[quartz ledge]

Appreciate all of you that are giving opinions

[frail plaza]

you need to start saving ex skill shards for ex5 and stop going for ex4

[onyx basalt]

btw

brady 4 is garbage

rofl

might as well just use amelia or bassel i dunno

literally his non-attack up kit does nothing at ex0

so he becomes a bassel

and correct

if u cant ex5

dont go ex3 or 2 or 4

damage increase 10% can fill in the gap of ex3

*damage increase normal

[quartz ledge]

Ah makes sense I honestly thought brady was ex5 🥲🥲 that’s why I pursued Maximo but was short 25 shards

[onyx basalt]

get it through store

its not a bad investment if ur that close

[quartz ledge]

I haven’t acquired Amelia yet 🥲 and bassel ? Is the navy one correct ?

Get both Brady and Maximo to ex5 or just Maximo ?

[onyx basalt]

max no need

soon it will come to hero return

(2-3 months maybe?

[quartz ledge]

Okay thank you

[wanton sigil]

Best hero u

[pale reef]

[native jolt]

NOOOO

But tbh u prob got him 5* from lucky itself

Worth

[royal galleon]

What is best to use with those hero’s for airforce 🧐

[austere orbit]

Barbi brad max

[split flax]

Duke, Cranston

[austere orbit]

Or sucker

[onyx basalt]

Is this new hero?

appearance resembles a hero in Mobile legend

[quartz ledge]

Freak nice setup

[royal galleon]

Only this is not nice 🥲🥸 90 🫠

[quartz ledge]

In time my friend

[austere orbit]

Copy paste

Indeed a multi million dollar company

[glad gull]

The moment you get a dm by someone asking for a free acc

[royal galleon]

Collecting crystal discs is a disaster, no store sells them, no events lately where you can get them... it will take a few months

[austere orbit]

They are easy to get

Just do radar and 10df his

*hits

[royal galleon]

That’s all

🥲

[modest linden]

[lean quartz]

Still better than the ones with links to free nudes

[pale reef]

[lean quartz]

And plot twist, if you click on it there are no nudes..

[worldly heron]

Once we have another combo hero I'd like to see a Barbie, kai + another combo hero 😂

Yeah

[onyx basalt]

best skillset

[mikuguide] 2023 Hero meta is very simple. Every indes hero (duke,shinji,OP,yuu,erin) is really a downgrade from eureka. Every hp hero (maple,brun,kai,rei) is a downgrade from asuka/crimson/babi. Every damage up hero (brady,corn,scrotum,koti,nemo) is a downgrade from gypsy.

[void wren]

hello, i have a question. I have Asuka 4 stars (i use kat, shinji and gypsy), should i bring her to 5 stars to replace kat or should i work on perks now?

[onyx basalt]

asuka safe

do not use gs on perks

use vouchers insted

[void wren]

also im working on gypsy lvl 5 so i chose asuka since no exc skill needed, should i work on a lvl 5 for her next?

thank youuu

[onyx basalt]

yes

[drowsy jetty]

Hey

[burnt horizon]

So new hero is bad ? Not worth upgrading ?
I have crimson shinji mega on navy i was planning to finish two hero perks then switch mega to another attack enhancer . But now I'm not sure i made the right choice .
I'm thinking of upgrading third hero for air and switch the march from navy . Which hero should i choose or i just wait ? .
El is coming i need something useable

[orchid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/run-godzilla-run-its-godzilla-austin-powers-goldmember-gif-25863420

[onyx basalt]

gypsy asuka

[spiral steeple]

What's the scrotum hero?

[glad gull]

Stromroy

I think

[austere orbit]

.

.

[lofty karma]

So the fix for the gear special effect is coming now ?

[austere orbit]

Fun first

Fun= money

[lofty karma]

They are working hard on topwar. Very hard 😂

[austere orbit]

[quartz ledge]

Tuh Tuh timmmmyyyyyy

[lofty karma]

Si

[quartz ledge]

Your content has really put a good perspective! Thank you !

[lofty karma]

Ye. Google is such a b***h sometimes, isn’t it Rivergame? 😂😂

[quartz ledge]

Quick question… What’s the gap between TA ? In my newbie server were on TA ? Just curious when the next one will open up TA 2

[pale reef]

[unique bobcat]

legend @lofty karma

[pale reef]

Need see owner of rivergames

[burnt horizon]

They are on my army with Stryker

[mystic elm]

i am army main. what heroes should i use, i am new

[frail plaza]

Bob solo

[trim cipher]

Rambo and bw 🤣🤣🤣

[stark cedar]

ahahahaha true

[exotic trail]

So Kai Is good or nah?

[mystic elm]

ok. i will blame you if i get burned.

[glass scaffold]

If u have asuka on af....better cont using her

[exotic trail]

Was thinking to move asuka on navy

[trim cipher]

🥰

[glass scaffold]

His ex5 is decent since 100% triggers rate for his passive skills

[exotic trail]

Prob i Will wait new navy Heroes and keep asuka

[glass scaffold]

Asuka still good for budget heroes

Universal and works fines wthout ex

[modest linden]

New hero 1* dmg

[mystic elm]

new hero stonk

[low comet]

I have max hazel striker, which one can be replace by new hero

[exotic trail]

He doesnt have scaling dmg

Thats the bad thing of this heroes

[modest linden]

What does it mean? I don't understand much about heros

[exotic trail]

Dmg Is decent vs navy but not op

[modest linden]

[exotic trail]

Other Heroes skills scaling with increasjng his LV stars

This Heroes doesnt

And his passive skill Is based on basic atk

Which would be good with giallar

But without its crap for noe

Unless you have 4k atk and 700 dmg inc

Max Crimson asuka scaling dmg is higher

[modest linden]

I see

[exotic trail]

He seems in par with barb

So idk if its worth the change

[modest linden]

Let Dosar, MBB use, then change if it needs

[exotic trail]

New server whale are built different smh

[modest linden]

Yes

[exotic trail]

48M

[modest linden]

Something is fishy

[exotic trail]

260 March size and full gears

[modest linden]

Lol, hacker

[modest linden]

Vip?

[exotic trail]

16

He Just spent hard

[fathom girder]

Ill rock Barbie. He seems on level with Serval..

[modest linden]

Ya

[exotic trail]

Not sure if its worth getting barb right noe

[weary dragon]

Hi

[exotic trail]

My March Is asuka Hazel striker

Thinking to move asuka on navy and put new One here but not worth as i see for now

Might Just wait and get directly new navy one

[low comet]

Need suggestions on which hero can be replace in my current list max hazel striker, and which hero I can upgrade

[exotic trail]

Prob asuka for max

[low comet]

Thank you

[pale reef]

New hero all in

[true geyser]

lol

[knotty dagger]

@true geyser

[onyx basalt]

Max asuka Kai good combo?

[austere sphinx]

Eternal lands coming a bit too soon

There’s going to be a lot of players locked into dead or dying servers because the transfer window being so small

[inland condor]

Atleast they should increase the limit of two transfer cycles coming before EL

[austere sphinx]

I have submitted comments to customer service and others should as well

This will be half a year they have locked down transfers for the most part

This restricts the natural flow of people and play. We have a strong server with three alliances but you can definitely see how this prolonged lock down over the past year + is holding the game back not pushing it forward

[spiral steeple]

Oh lol

[ancient ice]

time to fire Salute shots

[gray root]

Doing EL so quickly is incredibly shortsighted. And since TW refuses to merge servers on demand, such short transfer cycles make it impossible for people to handle it on their own. At this point, sure feels like Tw just wants their players to quit

I do not understand why developers insist on pretending the problem isn't there

[ancient ice]

because investor demand high and higher revenue

whether player quit playing or ... quit spending , doesn't share their warroom space

[gray root]

How would they get higher revenue with fewer players?

[ancient ice]

by luring few heavy spender to spend heavy for fame

like ... this is pride of Japan !

we Arab are strongest !

I must win this international contest like EL UD at all cost !

[spiral steeple]

I didn't know about the points reset and didn't get the decor

I thought they would add up...

[austere sphinx]

I don’t think the data supports that revenue has increased and is increasing. They definitely have player data but we can see downloads from the App Store data.

They need to allow more free flow of players so that people can play with their friends or find new ones

[ancient ice]

first parade , it was 1000k morale (dafuq !? 1 salute = 5 morale) so I get 1 participation bonus
second parade , it was max at 100k morale. so I get all participation bonus
now ....

[gray root]

And people asking for higher transfer caps in short transfer cycles doesn't help. People can't get transfer tickets fast enough for that

[ancient ice]

@austere sphinxthat's why I emphasize quit playing and quit spending

both is quit ... but different

[austere sphinx]

I enjoy having something to play to kill time

A good escape

That isn’t work related

[undone grotto]

Their revenue drop a lot from the past but it only the big spenders which spends on Titan gear is where there getting most of their revenue from

When there was no Titan gear there revenue drop like 1.2mil

[ancient ice]

auction always wrought most money

[undone grotto]

It doesn't help in the long run though

[austere sphinx]

Definitely a poor strategy

[undone grotto]

It a way mess up your game

[ancient ice]

investor will say , breed more new games.

[gray root]

What I hear you say is: whales not only actively hurt other players by making the game less enjoyable, they also hurt them by spending so much they distort the perception of the game community that devs have. We lose either way

[ancient ice]

rivergame try ... already try

[austere sphinx]

Mostly increases player churn and a game like this one needs several months to get you hooked

[ancient ice]

exactly , but unfortunately. that's the truth when competition across country border happen.

[undone grotto]

Well anyway the game is slowly dying

I hope the transfer thing is up to 60 spots instead of 30

[austere sphinx]

I submitted a request on VIP channel for increase

[ancient ice]

those transfer rules are attempt to prevent , super heavy weight whale indiscriminately burn whole servers
also disrupting server 's firepower from being imbalance.

[undone grotto]

Yeah like how my server el was mess up

[ancient ice]

like playing with Libra 's scale. but the player is TW Dev.
while we're in Libra's arms

[undone grotto]

First time did el just fought +70cp players when the transfer system was mess up

[ancient ice]

that's very harsh

[undone grotto]

2641 and 2631

[ancient ice]

stat 3500/3500/300/300 weight class whale ?

[undone grotto]

We were Farmville in that EL

[ancient ice]

plus 250+ marsh size

[undone grotto]

Having whales in your server could kill a server

Which is bad part

[frail niche]

This is 50Ms standards now

[frail plaza]

300 is too less

at 3500 hp and atk thy should be closer to 400

even i am close to 300

[ancient ice]

as a cp 49.8M , I say 250+ marsh size has to exceed 50M cp

source of marsh size = decor set ....

[frail niche]

I’ve seen 45Ms with 245ms

🤷‍♂️

and plenty 50Ms with around that

inflated

[frail plaza]

old server 55-65M are that range

[ancient ice]

it possible

[frail plaza]

new server 40-50 are that range

[undone grotto]

Well that's interesting because I see 49cp with 3k hp and atk with 300% dmg dec 400% dmg Inc

[ancient ice]

TW open decor set sale.

[undone grotto]

March size 236

[ancient ice]

bought them all = easily 220+ marsh size while Arsenal gear , CPNT still far behind

[frail niche]

Yea

just pure $$$

[ancient ice]

2700 $$ ?

[frail plaza]

i have a well built army main friend who is 50M with 230 march and 3k/3k/300/300 yeah

he is army only

[undone grotto]

That's very interesting

[austere sphinx]

I spend on March size but the more costly add is dmg increase/decrease

I am always behind on that one

[undone grotto]

How long has your friend been playing

[frail plaza]

3 years

[undone grotto]

O

[frail plaza]

day 1 same alliance with me

[undone grotto]

[ancient ice]

magic number , 81 , 243 and 729 pieces of rare march size lv1

[frail plaza]

we are just small spenders who accumulate strength over a long time

[ancient ice]

every week , you could buy one or two worth of 81 pieces (lv5)

[undone grotto]

The 49cp player I know has been playing for 1 year

[frail plaza]

new server whales on 40M+ stronger than us are no surprise

[undone grotto]

He a dolphin

[ancient ice]

but having rare march size lv8 on all marches is very stretch

[undone grotto]

[frail plaza]

CP is already useless indicator

it becoming like old troop power

[ancient ice]

but , owning lv6 rare march size on all march , then fill +4 ms gap with 1 decor lv2 is easier

[frail plaza]

if you dont have at least 220 march nowadays you dont even show up on the map

you just evaporate

[ancient ice]

true

[rain mantle]

220 still too low

More like 240-250+

To not get ported every minute

[frail niche]

Shutup

[knotty dagger]

@frail plaza u wale

[frail niche]

my 188 still doin fine

[knotty dagger]

@frail niche u wale

[frail niche]

@knotty dagger u whale

[frail plaza]

tell that to @rain mantle

[knotty dagger]

Nuh uh

[frail plaza]

so

u shut up

[frail niche]

ugh well I survived couple 60Ms hit and I’m barely 45M

[rain mantle]

Its not relevant if no one hits you

[frail niche]

tru

[undone grotto]

Whale

[rain mantle]

Seen enough 70m+ 260-280ms getting bounced like air this ud

[frail plaza]

UD you have to fight mega whales

[undone grotto]

Yes

[frail plaza]

because top end is robin and dosar

nothing will matter except these 2

[undone grotto]

Fighting mega whales are no fun

[ancient ice]

comparing the tile size , 26 is 1.24 times stronger than 21
while 21 is 1.10 times stronger than 19

those 0.24 times stronger has to be compensate by stat proportion
like (26 size) 2500/2500/250/250 vs 3100/3100/310/310 (21 size)

the reality is reverse

[knotty dagger]

[hardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/my-god-omg-megalodon-shark-realize-gif-11663316

[rain mantle]

I mean as in they barely surviving

Forget about lower lvl people

[frail plaza]

whales these days we can differentiate into so many categories

so many power level changes that makes the lesser whale completely irrelevant

[undone grotto]

Explain

[frail plaza]

a 4k/4k/400/400 whale will demolish a sub 3k/3k/300/300 whale

and then an ex7 4k/400 whale will demolish an ex5 4k/400 whale

[ancient ice]

ow my goddesses !! , 3000/3000/300/300 is a SUB

[frail niche]

So I’m nothing then

[frail plaza]

and then 4k/600 whales with titan gears will demolish ex7 4k/400 whales

[frail niche]

You know it’s fked up when a mass rally don’t kill one person

[undone grotto]

That's not always the case from what I see

[frail plaza]

and then 5k/800 whales with full gold special effects will demolish 4k/600 whales

[undone grotto]

Some use crappy hero's

[frail plaza]

and then you have the top end that demolishes everything

[undone grotto]

Ah yes

[frail plaza]

its too easy to buy stats now

[rain mantle]

5k 800 is top end

Very few at that

[frail plaza]

and ex7 is too common

[undone grotto]

Yeah a mega

[rain mantle]

Even mbb below 800

[stark cedar]

Well

[frail niche]

3-4k/400-500 is not uncommon now

so eh

[frail plaza]

you think you achieved something playing wb against some poor guys

[frail niche]

heyyy @stark cedar haven’t seen u for a while

[frail plaza]

but then someone with ex7 casually beats you

[frail niche]

👁️

[frail plaza]

you think you got ex7 you can beat most people, but then someone with full titan gear one taps you

[rain mantle]

500s are still decently rare

[frail niche]

They spent 100x times more than me, whatever

[rain mantle]

400s there's quite alot

[stark cedar]

Someone gave me a hard time at work today so I figured to just mess with her throughout the shift.

She ended up crying and it was amazing seeing her cry

[undone grotto]

600 is rare same goes for 700

[frail plaza]

500s are rare on mid sized servers only

[frail niche]

I mean, it’s logical. They spent 100x times more than me, ofc their winning against me is reasonable

[ancient ice]

on my server range (S200 - S500) whale whom equip EX L7/7/7 on first/second marches are fewer than 20 peoples whole

[frail plaza]

400 is everywhere

[frail niche]

arguable

but 400 is everywhere

[rain mantle]

I mean D4c is on 500s

[frail niche]

Meanie, i love it

[frail plaza]

less than 3k/350 are all small players

[rain mantle]

So I consider it rare

[ancient ice]

if you remove all decor from base , it will shrink to 2k/2k

[frail plaza]

2k stats is every f2p(they dont exist) nowadays

[ancient ice]

[frail niche]

Shutup

I’m 2k

[frail plaza]

what

so am i

[frail niche]

[frail plaza]

lol

[frail niche]

I’m 2.1k/2.2k/ 250/280

[ancient ice]

660 of that wobbling 2k come from 12 Perks heroes

[frail plaza]

my navy is only 2700/2400/300/240(becasue no 3 type encirclement)

[undone grotto]

Man I'm 1.2k

Not f2p though

[frail plaza]

my air is 2100/2100/290/290

[frail niche]

I don’t have full perks + much gold equips so

[frail plaza]

its nothing at all

[frail niche]

no remolds

[ancient ice]

@undone grottoowning city skins used to increase stat around +400

now ... I haven't count

[rain mantle]

Vip 13 or below is f2p nowadays

[frail plaza]

vip16 is f2p nowdays

[undone grotto]

[rain mantle]

True

[frail plaza]

you need to spend on titan gears

too many stats to buy

you can easily reach vip16

[rain mantle]

Also why is gold gear so rare

I still don't have one

[ancient ice]

how much is vip16 again ? in dollar

[frail plaza]

becasue they havent come up with titan gear 2.0 yet

[undone grotto]

50k

[frail plaza]

once they ready, they will make titan gear obsolete

just like how ex7 is nothing now

[ancient ice]

ok , enough to buy a knock down house

[orchid copper]

Need to admit that huge ms players are pretty much common than ever

UD proves this so much, everyone is at least 220+

F2p remains stuck at noob 165-ish

[zenith cedar]

173

[orchid copper]

Although huge is relative, even tho 220+ ms people are common. Tw already widen the gap between vip bands too

[zenith cedar]

[orchid copper]

It's literally like a food chain now

[orchid copper]

Can up to 181 ms too

Assumed everything is level 6 hero skills

[ancient ice]

it doesn't different to changling new Car every 1-2 years.
some people do

[zenith cedar]

2 lvl7 MS, 1 lvl5

[frail niche]

Yea

[orchid copper]

really cannot burn anyone than unshielded peoples

So yeah, I don't see the game is dying at all

[rain mantle]

Its normal tho considering megas nearing 350-400s

[orchid copper]

Megawhales mega spending things, mid spenders are mid spending as well

[frail niche]

400ms? 🤨

[orchid copper]

They just spending according to their roles

[zenith cedar]

F2p are still watching

😅

[ancient ice]

NO , if player quit playing. da game dying.

vast ocean need fishes regardless of size

BUT , if player quit spending. game still continue as bountiful ocean still have some fishes

[rain mantle]

Nearing*

There's are 400ms if you considering +40 reinforcement from shark

[frail niche]

inflation..

[ancient ice]

half of decor set probably be lv2

[orchid copper]

400ms may need a few more months to be officially "basic" 400 ms (exclude shark formation). As army getting tankier then there are more reasons for multi force users to consider to beef up their scorpion formation

[zenith cedar]

When EL comes out, we'll see 400+ms

[rain mantle]

Na

El too soon

[ancient ice]

300 ms with 2800 troops count in a base.... ummmm

ummmmmmmmm

[orchid copper]

Although, I dunno if having 2 clones of scorpion formation is better than 2 clones of shark formation since both formation have different buffs

[frail niche]

220+ is mid spenders now

at this rate we will see 3rd formation soon

We got shark and scorpion, what’s next?

eagle?

[orchid copper]

Snake

[ancient ice]

at this rate , they could buy a whole Village

[orchid copper]

Snake formation lolz

[ancient ice]

Liquid snake formation

[frail niche]

[rain mantle]

Btw what is 770 planning

[orchid copper]

Even if the fishes dies, there are newborn fishes ready to grow to replace the old fishes

[rain mantle]

Seems like some sort of Ally-ship between 770 and 835 too

[orchid copper]

Just depends on the feeding lol

[austere orbit]

All we know is 2216 ded

[ancient ice]

ain't those newborne be seperate on another septic tank ? not in da ocean

[orchid copper]

Tw somehow speeding up the septic tank phase

Speeding up total elipse, then new world, unlock level 100

[ancient ice]

I see this coming

[orchid copper]

Gg speedrun

[austere orbit]

Stody time

[reef peak]

next week is the last time we can hunt for parade decor

ive been hoarding the firework for it

to get at least lv1

[wanton sigil]

How many you have ?

[glad gull]

Garuda you gonna join 2842?

[formal garden]

Next week all in fireworks right?

[glad gull]

@wanton sigil

[reef peak]

uh i forget it

will check later

how many fireworks to achieve the lv1 decor ?

[glad gull]

5000

[reef peak]

waaaatt

[glad gull]

Im joking

[woeful plume]

I used like 25

[reef peak]

ohhhh great

i think i have enough

[frail plaza]

we will see 5th HT first

[woeful plume]

Just buy a $1 pack if your a few short haha

[fringe sigil]

おはよう

[wanton sigil]

I am also waiting for next week.

[onyx basalt]

gg

so many skipped hero this year

just cuz asuka-gypsy-eureka too strong

[austere orbit]

Should I make gypsy,5* and 5ex

[lusty warren]

How many transfer cycles we ll have before EL??

[austere orbit]

And replace ma mega

[frail plaza]

1

[onyx basalt]

i did it

the moment i realised u can girl skin gypsy

ex5 ez

[austere orbit]

I am not making a hero for skin

[ancient axle]

I should wait for gypsy replacement

[austere orbit]

yeah i think same

[orchid copper]

upgrade Kai for the oppai

[austere orbit]

Global version is gae fr

[orchid copper]

agreed

[rain mantle]

1-2

[lusty warren]

One or two??
That ll make high difference lol

[rain mantle]

depending on cycle end date

[lusty warren]

Hmmm okaies

[rain mantle]

but it should be 2

transfers open during next cycle

which starts on 18th

so it should end before transfer locks again

[pale reef]

[austere orbit]

L ud

F ud

Mf ud

Perks of mewing

[reef peak]

miku, u have decision on Kai 5 ?

[kindred sorrel]

[onyx basalt]

what?

easiest 1 star ever

=.=

[mikuguide] 2023 Hero meta is very simple. Every indes hero is really a downgrade from eureka. Every hp hero (maple,brun,kai,rei) is a downgrade from asuka/crimson/babi. Every damage up hero (brady,corn,scrotum,koti) is a downgrade from gypsy.

hence anything you spend in 2023 thats not eureka-gypsy-asuka is pretty much dead money once eurekaII, gypsyII, or asukaII comes out

lots of navy right now complaining that they losing to army. its not because army is strong. its because they are not using asuka-eureka-gypsy in their march

if u pit asuka-eureka-gypsy navy u are gonna beat up asuka-eureka-gypsy army

[frail plaza]

lol no way

i have never seen a navy with that march

[onyx basalt]

80%-0% ez

yes

"because i want gypsy in xxx"

"because i want eureka in xxxx"

"because i want asuka in xxxxx"

basically same reason they waste $$ in serval

despite serval, on release, was weaker vs mega

[frail plaza]

bro

if you gonna gypsy striker asuka

might as well play army

[onyx basalt]

basically every non gypsy, eureka,asuka = serval

[frail plaza]

[onyx basalt]

no

play all

pay 1k gems to swop perks and just continue playing

[steady narwhal]

What is result. Is Kai good gathering Hero ?

[austere orbit]

Dunno about gathering

[tropic wasp]

So… Top War’s suggested hero combos aren’t the meta. Why not? Are they smarter then us, or are we smarter then them?

[lilac crescent]

AI is the way

😂

[hardy fern]

Spider formation. It will be totally different. Slots 1-3-5-7-9.
Level 3 : when all formation slots are alive, there is a chance the formation will target 1-3 enemies, hitting them the the spiders web. The "web" will reduce the attackers damage by 30%
Level 5 : Formation will activate if there are 3 formation slots alive. The number of targets is increased 3-6 an the damage in increased to 50%.

This is all made up

[austere orbit]

We both are dumb

[onyx basalt]

@reef peak

my historical decisions

i keep track

[steady narwhal]

They will see $$$$$ - we will see power

[onyx basalt]

also my reasoning if i dont invest

anyways 2023 is easy imo. majority heroes are obsolete on release

rules of invest are still the same

1. Buy colab all-unit heroes 2) Tier 1/best hero in MULTIPLE unit types on release 3) Big plus if ex0 friendly

koti, polik, stromoy, brady, brun, maple, corn, duke, snake, kai

obsolete-on release heroes

they overdid it with gypsy/asuka/eureka

[pale reef]

All in

[wanton sigil]

After all the analysis, i loose to people with 30/40% lesser stats.
But better titan gear ⚙️ skills n exclusive 7

I feel It's all pointless to spend too much time in analytics of this stuff

It's pretty clear to buy the maximum to hit the most

[onyx basalt]

uh

titan gear will appear in stats

if he has 300% dmginc

his stat will show it lel

[wanton sigil]

Skills are rare 😔

[knotty dagger]

@reef peak

[loud gulch]

Even I got one

[onyx basalt]

so if u lose agains someone with good titan it will appear in stats i think

i got no skills

haha

[loud gulch]

Just whale more

[onyx basalt]

no thanks ~_~

imo, if its not dmginc or shield up

[loud gulch]

👁️👁️

[onyx basalt]

it kidna dont matter much