📱│game-discussion

[gritty ridge]

@pearl inlet

[reef peak]

we can

#👀│game-spoiler

[gritty ridge]

Thanks

[onyx basalt]

Why just why

[knotty dagger]

@reef peak

[slow pagoda]

When is 2 nd part comming

[slow pagoda]

Storm whale

[sick grail]

https://youtu.be/lO1lyOn87uU?si=lFBaWqrYXBYmubus

[loud gulch]

🐟

[nova spear]

Hello guys..I just got on game for the first time and I have few questions. Firstly, I cannot choose exactly which world I can join...it gives me only 1 or 2 options... secondly is it possible to make an acc..lvl it just a little bit and then to jump on newly made world..and after how many days usually do new worlds arw born

[outer thicket]

How many gem needed to get 1 base skin

From gacha

[sick grail]

Max 46k

[outer thicket]

Damn I got 15k

Ill do it 25k maybe ill be lucky

[sick grail]

You can get a base with 15k but very rare

[outer thicket]

Yea Ik hope 25k will be enough

Dont wanna really spend anythinf

[sick grail]

Gacha event skin price

Lucky methods

Best case scenario:
You have an 1* egg > 4* egg > 7* egg = below 2k gems

Lucky case scenario:
You have a 4* egg and jump to 7* (1% chance) = 6810 gems

Good case scenario:
You have a 5* egg and jump to 7* (18% chance) = 20.000 gems

Worst case scenario:
You have to upgrade a 6* egg to 7* = costs you in the worst case up to 46.000 gems

Safe Case Scenario
Hitting 60 gems only and claim 2+ = +-30k gems (max 36k)

Normal methods

Method 1
Increase stars 1 > 7*

MIN: 15,470 gems [300 rare]
MAX: 46,410 gems [300 rare]
AVG: 30,940 gems [300 rare]

Method 2
Hitting 60 gems only

MIN: 26,160 gems [240 rare]
MAX: 36,000 gems [240 rare]
AVG: 31,080 gems [240 rare]

Method 3
Stop in 3 stars

MIN: 23,333 gems [240 rare]
MAX: 45,999 gems [240 rare]
AVG: 34,666 gems [240 rare]

Method 4
Stop in 4 stars

MIN: 22,666 gems [240 rare]
MAX: 45,333 gems [240 rare]
AVG: 34,000 gems [240 rare]

Method 5
Stop in 5 stars

MIN: 22,666 gems [240 rare]
MAX: 45,333 gems [240 rare]
AVG: 34,000 gems [240 rare]

Method 6
Stop in 6 stars

MIN: 27,970 gems [300 rare]
MAX: 106,740 gems [300 rare]
AVG: 67,375 gems [300 rare]

Method 7
Stop in 5 stars 2 times and get 40x rare items with method
Btw I don’t click free gacha

[onyx basalt]

[native jolt]

When gacha

@wanton sigil who deleted your meme lmao

Sensitive ah ppl

[floral crow]

Is Gacha confirmed to come soon or something?

Or we still just speculating/expecting it

[sick grail]

This month

[floral crow]

Yea we been expecting it this month a while

Watch Gacha not come back 🫣🫣🫣

Right when I actually planned accordingly and have gems for skins 😂

[sick grail]

Planned for this month

I've been told

[floral crow]

Bet

I pray

[floral crow]

🤔

Oh I see you talking in there

Didn’t even realize at first like a dummy

[sick grail]

My info is not from there

[floral crow]

Gotcha

[urban creek]

What’s this?

[woeful plume]

I had the same question when I saw it other day then forgot to ask anyone 😅

[urban creek]

“Event period” has me wondering the most @woeful plume

[woeful plume]

Got me stumped lol

[orchid copper]

Top warzone 0 ppl/cycle 😂

Imagine being on top and devs punishing you for being on top at top war so they banning you from having new transfers

[pastel plank]

should I give all lv81 to valhalla?

[stark cedar]

👀👀

[native jolt]

Ok see u again in 4 days

[last falcon]

tomorrow might be Bol @native jolt

[simple wadi]

Was there a gacha announcement ?

[simple wadi]

I swear if i see elemental one more time again when lvling up 😤

Meh

[burnt horizon]

At least you didn't waste 16 gold chips to get this

[green zealot]

Or this

[onyx basalt]

uh

its not a waste

the point is combine the four chips

to get the ultimate xyston mid

also

always do mid

mid has the highest chance to have something goood

moreover, left/right chips needs EXP

[green zealot]

Why do mid when you should do it on the last one

[onyx basalt]

cuz

there is a chance u get a good mid chip

saving you 64 chips

[green zealot]

Get the outside potentially

[simple wadi]

This is 16 chips

[burnt horizon]

this what i got after 16 chip . I wanted one speed for my second Ht didn't work .

[onyx basalt]

no point aiming for speed

speed is a low drop rate

get those from purples

also, HT is least imp;actful

[simple wadi]

Speed is ded. Ht on slot 2, no rof

Unless navy with stromoy

[green zealot]

To me the right chips are the most valueable try to get those

Center chips are easier to get

[onyx basalt]

always mid

i dont have the exact chart

but mid has a disproportionately high chance of being good AND doesnt need level up

right = high chance of getting elementals and u waste EXP upping it

so it just eats up ur chips

[green zealot]

I just see people getting good centers without overclocking

[onyx basalt]

yes

but they are top 0.01%

you NEED four good mid xyston

so unless u got four def up dmg increase up all unit/ correct unit

always go mid

right = play the long game

even the best right has what 10-15 def at max

[burnt horizon]

I have actually one chip spot missing gold chip on it for the 4th Ht . That's the reason i went for it .+ To get second speed maybe . It was a waste . But seems they reduce the drop rate for all boxes these days. I'm never getting gold chips now

[onyx basalt]

good mid =20-40 def ez

the only time u wanna waste overclocks on right chips

[green zealot]

Most people don't even have one good ht feels odd trying to build out 3/4 first

[onyx basalt]

is when u got FOUR good mids

right is just

lower stats, waste exp, lower chance of good things

and level up RNG

[burnt horizon]

My question does it matter to get defence chips if you are f2p . I feel like i should go for damage more than defence . You go for what you missing although i still use defence chips instead of damage honestly

[onyx basalt]

then do dmg inc

the point is the same

mid dmg inc > right dmginc

mid def > right def

mid = no exp needed

mid = no level up RNG

mid = higher stat

mid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right

also you need four mids for 4 HT

[green zealot]

Def = 1.8 dmg dec.... Both go to 30% so most value from any stat. So yes def is worth

I think if you have <2 center chips yes. But if you have 2 or more centers your likely using your main ht the most and should get that up

[burnt horizon]

I know the numbers . But defence more valuable i think to whales because they already have high damage inc + decrease . But low defence .

[onyx basalt]

dont do right till u got 4 mid chips

just use good purples

good puples > bad gold

[green zealot]

Requires good purples 😂

[onyx basalt]

in short

all overclock --> go mid

random purples--->go right

once u get 4 good mid xyston

go right gold

[burnt horizon]

So they aim for defence . Because they don't need more damage . They already have it from many other places

[green zealot]

It's not that it's just wanting the best stats you can get

[burnt horizon]

We will see this in few months again maybe thank you

[burnt horizon]

I understand thank you

[onyx basalt]

people will eventually realise

how xyston has constantly been buffed with recent update

x1.7 damage, lv 100 cap, formations

all greatly benefit xyston and killed hoplong and shamshir

[round tinsel]

Which would you pick

[fair musk]

Hola

[sage patio]

Left is better

[floral crow]

DEF on backup HT

As it is already 🙂

[strange depot]

UD Week 4 - Loco's POV - 1508 - 2023/Dec/09 - Ultimate Dominators - Top War
https://youtu.be/Ke8_nO5e-cQ

[hardy fern]

Right. DEF is better

[floral torrent]

I went from a newer server to a total war server. After UD can I go back up or am I stuck in total war forever?

Did I fuck up?

[outer narwhal]

Shut up

Just quit already

[floral torrent]

Fuck off

[outer narwhal]

Make me

😂 cause I know you can’t

Being stuck in total and all

[hardy fern]

Strongly rumored to start this week

[floral torrent]

I wasn't asking you, especially after your answer in #☕│off-topic

So kindly don't ping me again or reply to me @outer narwhal

[outer narwhal]

Bruh I gave you a answer of “no”

[floral torrent]

I said stop pinging me

Last chance

[outer narwhal]

The. Don’t ping me lmao

[outer narwhal]

Oh no I’m getting blocked by someone stuck in total warzone

[floral torrent]

God

This area is to talk about the game. Leave to general or shut it

[outer narwhal]

@onyx basalt you back to playing yet?

[outer narwhal]

lol where am I not talking about the game?

I talked about total warzone

[outer narwhal]

Obviously not def

@round tinsel what’s your damage Dec?

[slow pagoda]

[outer narwhal]

[round tinsel]

Stop spying

[outer narwhal]

I was gonna tell you how much damage Dec you gain from the def ☠️

[green zealot]

@outer narwhal Do you get dmg decor lvl 3?

[outer narwhal]

Ummmmm

[round tinsel]

It’s a multiplier of 1.8

[outer narwhal]

No no

Def has a actual equation

It’s not a set number

[outer narwhal]

Huh

[green zealot]

Using decor shards

[outer narwhal]

Oh

I mean

Sometimes

I’ve done that like 4 times now

[green zealot]

Miku was saying basically never do that and do hp/att %

[outer narwhal]

That’s dumb

Miku dumb

😂

[green zealot]

That was a take I didn't agree with

[outer narwhal]

Damage Dec our ways hp or atk decor no matter what

Plus most atk and hp decor will be level 3-6 ftp

If anything I would rather spend in damage inc and march size

Damage Dec doesn’t just stay as its own stat

Because it also boost your def

More damage Dec = more 1 def is worth

[green zealot]

The cost to upgrade dec past 2 wasn't worth it in comparison

[outer narwhal]

Let’s break this down tho

1 hp stat

[thorny spire]

Ok

[outer narwhal]

Like 1% hp

Maybe cheaper yes

By a full let’s say 80%

It’s like a 60 to 300 ratio or something

That 1% hp

Which means

5% hp across multiple decors to even out

5% hp compared to just 1% damage Dec

Damage Dec wins

Minus math on damage Dec is definitely flawed

[floral torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-type-komoru-panda-write-writing-gif-18980338

[outer narwhal]

Only argument is hp enhancement

[green zealot]

900 ds for lvl 2->3 for 1% def vs 300 for 2->3 for dmg dec

[outer narwhal]

Depends on your damage Dec already

[onyx basalt]

u

uh

[outer narwhal]

If you Dec is high enough it can be better then 3% dmg Dec or more

[onyx basalt]

dmgdec lv2, dmginc lv3, march lv2, def lv2, hp/att, get lv2 if you got two of it

after u done all the above

[outer narwhal]

Miku

[onyx basalt]

the next step is all 0.03 stat per deco shard

which is march lv2-->3

[outer narwhal]

Explain why people should push hp and atk instead of level 3 damage Dec decors?

I wanna know your logic behind this

[onyx basalt]

march lv2-->3 cost 1440 shard, gives 42 stat, or 0.03

[outer narwhal]

I personally think it’s dumb

[onyx basalt]

40 dec shard for 2 stat is good

2/40 = 0.05

above 0.03

[green zealot]

What is dmg inc and def to stats in your conversion

[onyx basalt]

dmg dec lv3..is questionable.750 deco shard buys 2.5 dmg dec or 12.5 stat, or 0.017-0.02

[green zealot]

and march for the matter

[outer narwhal]

Haafr used to have a nice little system for each stat and how many points it’s worth

[onyx basalt]

di 9 dd 5-6 def 12-15 shield 12 march 20-30

[outer narwhal]

But let be honest

[onyx basalt]

use ur own stat

to compare value of two stats

[outer narwhal]

If your damage Dec and inc decors are high enough

[onyx basalt]

(statA+1)/(statB+1)

[outer narwhal]

Start pushing war and hero def

[onyx basalt]

if u got 50 def and 300 dmgdec

the relative value is 1.5 / 4

(150%/400%)

[outer narwhal]

Huh

[onyx basalt]

or about 2-3x

[outer narwhal]

Miku

[onyx basalt]

if u got 2000 atk and 300 dmg inc

the relative value is 2100%/400%

or about 5x-6x

so ur own stat dictates value

[outer narwhal]

The equation for def to damage Dec is move the def to decimals to the right and multiply then add

[onyx basalt]

all has same formula

1/(1+A)

[outer narwhal]

50 def and 300 Dec is really 450 Dec

[onyx basalt]

so ur just multiplying up many many 1/(1+A)

def, dmg dec, suppression,

all has diff A

so u just multiyly em up

[outer narwhal]

No need to add suppression

[onyx basalt]

in short

as long as all other stats are equql

equal

[outer narwhal]

Suppression is a reduced stat and not in all fights

[onyx basalt]

to compare stats is to just compare (1+A) vs (1+B)

this is because the change between damage taken is simply 1/(1+A+before change) --> 1/(1+A)

so from 0 def to 100% def

u go from 1/1-->1/2 = 50% damage taken

from 100% def to 200% def its 1/2-->1/3

ie: fro 50% damage taken-->33% damage taken

but relative stat is simply (1+A)/(1+B), and this works on anything EXCEPT indes

[outer narwhal]

This doesn’t explain anything on why you say push atk and hp decors over damage Dec 2–>3

[onyx basalt]

Ie; the less stat u have the more valuable it is

40 dec shard for 2 stat is good = 2/40 = 0.05

2.5 dmgdec for 750 = 12.5/750 = 0.017

0.05> 0.017

easy decision

[outer narwhal]

😂 2.5 dmg Dec is way better then hp and Atk tho

You over value low level stats

[onyx basalt]

it depends on the deco shard cost

[outer narwhal]

It’s the same issue with your air march calculations

[onyx basalt]

always divide stat to deco shard cost

unless u have infinite money

infinite money = just lv10 everything

[outer narwhal]

You over value low stats

[onyx basalt]

anyways

[outer narwhal]

Deco max at 15 bro

[onyx basalt]

dmgdec lv2-->3 is always bad

UNLESS

all ur dmginc is lv4, and all march is lv3

[outer narwhal]

You are building a glass cannon ☠️

[onyx basalt]

then dmgdec lv2-->3

[honest birch]

Anyone know how long a level 5 Urgent Care tower lasts once constructed?

[outer narwhal]

And without damage Dec your march size becomes weaker and then def is weaker as well from less value

March size and Dec and def all multiply

[onyx basalt]

for example

if u up 5 2 hp deco lv1-->lv2 when u got two of it

u get 10 hp for only 200 deco shards

vs dmg dec

2.5dmg dec for 750

inefficient

3x more inefficient

[outer narwhal]

Again

[onyx basalt]

but as i said

if u got ininfite money

[outer narwhal]

You under value Dec

[onyx basalt]

do whatever u want

lv10 all is the best imo

[outer narwhal]

15 is max

[onyx basalt]

my maths is only for those who have limited $ and shards

[outer narwhal]

Lmao

[outer narwhal]

Your math also devalues Dec and over values hp and atk

Only time your case works is fresh accounts with 0 stats

A player with 3k hp will see a bigger change with 2.5 Dec then 30hp

[onyx basalt]

imo, because dmgdeco lv3 (0.015-0.017) cost performance is behind lv 3 march (0.015-0.02), it will never be upped till u got all march to lv3

since u got 9-10 march

14400 deco shard queue

lv3 dmgdeco also behind lv4 dmginc in cost performance (0.015-0.020)

so thats another what, 10000?

however many dmginc x cost of lv3-->4

moreover i internally value atk more than hp since recent bases has gave too much hp relative to atk

so ur att is naturally 1.2x + more valuable

on top of att working in most events/all pvp

[outer narwhal]

The argument here is Atk and hp decors to dmg Dec

Nothing else

[onyx basalt]

anyways up to u guys to listen or not. ill take 40 deco shard for 2 stat over lv3 dmg dec

there are many 2 hp and 2 att deco stuck at lv1

since u randomly get free from those bottle events

once u got lv4 march and lv4 dmg inc

i would consider lv3 dmgdec

lv3 def and lv2 2,3,4 stat also has higher priority over lv3 dmgdec especially if u got two copies

for non whaling, this is around 30,000 deco shards of stuffs before dmg dec lv 3.

[green zealot]

Lvl 3 def over lvl 3 dmg dec?? Comparing the cost

900 for 1%def 300 for 1%dmg dec

[outer narwhal]

All relative to stats

Only time those 2 are equal is having 300% dmg Dec

Because that makes the def = 3 damage Dec

If you have more then def is better

If you have less then dmg Dec is better

All relative

[urban creek]

https://tenor.com/view/argue-argument-fight-fighting-whats-happening-gif-14099415

[glossy field]

[native jolt]

Ayyyy

[slow pagoda]

Sooner you gonna be in Many banned list 🙈

[outer narwhal]

😂 bro

I don’t even think I’m banned from anywhere anymore

[slow pagoda]

🤣🤣🤣

[outer narwhal]

I’ve been playing that long

[slow pagoda]

Hahahhaa

[outer narwhal]

😂 so ya

Say I’ll get banned

Yet here I am

[slow pagoda]

🤣🤣

[frail plaza]

Second account got for free too

[glossy field]

Army recently only got snake

Poor air needs max2.0 🥺

[outer narwhal]

Nah

Max 2.0 is out

Called surge

We need max 4.0

[glossy field]

😮😮

[glossy field]

At this rate people would be demanding max69.0 and the real max never comes out 🤣

[sage patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947672164063141930/1172679304316985475/image.png?ex=656131b5&is=654ebcb5&hm=dccf56331e6ae494321f3b2c26b549fbe504b38c19f6802d50ad8ec4afb438a3&

[frail plaza]

We were supposed to get max 4.0 last time but they gave Crapston

[outer narwhal]

Don’t worry

Next hero is air

[onyx basalt]

air got 3 meta marches

max-kum, cornstarch-babi, and asuka-gypsy/brady

as long as you keep on repairing, combined with the val repair bay priority change

if ur role is to defend stuffs + air main, u can go at full power the entire svs

[outer narwhal]

Asuka gypsy badly isn’t in the convo cause people would rather run army at that point

[floral crow]

Why would you even want 3 marches of same troop type lol sounds wack to me

[onyx basalt]

one for each ruin. let other people do army/navy

also, air never levels down

due to the new repair bay change

[glossy field]

Lot of if, else if blocks for air 🤣

[onyx basalt]

thats how i play svs

defend ruins

and wfac

[glossy field]

Miku playing the game as if he is writing a program for computer

[onyx basalt]

uh thats my role

[frail plaza]

Whales who running 6 marches obviously

[onyx basalt]

whale take ruin, i send air in

maybe its not obvious yet, but uh

attacking people now is really bad idea lel

[glossy field]

Poor ftp is clueless what to use in air 🤣

[onyx basalt]

unless ur overwhelmingly more $$$

ah f2p is easy

kum-babi-max air

asuka-gypsy-eureka navy/army

[frail plaza]

F2p just go Gypsy Striker Asuka

[onyx basalt]

two marches to save up units/build towers

ex0 friendly march

[glossy field]

This is the only meta as of now benefits ftp in all 3 troop types

[reef peak]

Hellooooo

Goood monring

Bhellopl

Im so happpppppy

[onyx basalt]

also yeah. my army just cant plow through stuffs. so its better to stick to air imo until we get good stuffs

[reef peak]

Ayo Miku

They fixed the repair bay ?

All the vals will be sent to Vals bay all the time ?

[native jolt]

No ben max aka

@stark cedar

[frail plaza]

Use jyu better

He is stronger than bob

[orchid copper]

Gipsy asuka striker for army navy AF

and I'm still stuck with silly mega max prime march

[frail niche]

why don’t u replace them

[sturdy light]

What’s the repair bay change?

[frail plaza]

He is lazy f2p

[orchid copper]

Lazy af

[reef peak]

Lazyyyy

[simple wadi]

I thought kuza was strong. 1% ?

[fickle beacon]

No ht

[dire sleet]

When new server will come

[simple wadi]

With this trend, 779 might take 1508 mainland in 3 weeks. Nothing can stop ALI

[frail plaza]

with no context

[onyx basalt]

if u run say

180 normal units and 80 valhalla

and get killed, normal units go to repair bay, valhalle goes to svs

so as long as you run a cat, or quick to repair, you never level down no matter what

even with 3 marches out

[strange depot]

The problem is not ALI… the problem is that we had to fight 3 big factions at the same time while those factions made deals so they could only focus on us… 🤷‍♂️ but we are here to fight so let’s see how it goes. We are still on route to our targets

[strange depot]

The account’ strength is not what it used to be, but taking a report out of context is usually not the best, since there are many factors that can affect the result. I would never say Kuza can only do 1% to Loco, at all

[covert flame]

👀

[frail plaza]

Deals?

Drama time?

We are overdue

Ultimate Drama but no drama

[covert flame]

Previous UD had more drama tbh, was interesting. This one looks more boring

[simple wadi]

Yeah UD is boring for average players. Ima shield for the rest of it

[frail plaza]

I'm only need another 100k merits for the 500k reward

Then I can actually just play UD on my other accounts lol

[reef peak]

@wanton sigil

you're weird

you're very weird

[wanton sigil]

Make UD 1 hour 😌

[sick grail]

🤔

[wanton sigil]

Wow 😳

Horse hero 💪

[paper crow]

Do you have Gift codes 🎁 ?

[reef peak]

GETONTOP
KDQB666
TOP2023
TOPWAR666
topwar888
TWxGIJOE

[frail niche]

ew..

Anyways proof that polik suck 🏃‍♂️

[reef peak]

that's you having all the newest heroes

honestly

i feel like

march size isnt a big gap anymore

more march size means faster empty base

[frail niche]

doesn’t compensate for the fact that his heros are not that far away from mine, and he has much better stats

[sick grail]

Guy In my server 210 Ms but runs all defensive heros 😂

[reef peak]

the most setup joke is 3 indes heroes

[frail niche]

yet u still invest in them

[reef peak]

with half price than before

[frail niche]

ah yes, typical op + shinji users

[sick grail]

He's 2 of those

😂

And a up buffing one

HP*

[frail niche]

so no atk buffer

L

[sick grail]

No atk buffer or attack her

Hero

[frail niche]

lol

[frail niche]

maple duke Layla

[sick grail]

Ms was a bit of but 200 Ms and those heros 😂

[frail niche]

Honestly throw a bassel in layla place and he will do at least 30%

Not 13

[paper crow]

Thank you 😊

[reef peak]

i honestly

want to upgrade cranston

but it's such a combo

[dim sun]

Uselles statue in a game that there is not enough space to put it in.

[frail plaza]

[sick grail]

You place it on water

So there is enough room

And how much you have to spend to get that 👀

[tired fable]

Guys in the heavy troops, those chips on the left side mostly benefit the troops instead of the army, airforce or navy, is that the way it is or just my bad luck??

[wanton oak]

Yes

[reef peak]

that's the way it is , left side chip = heavy trooper stats only

[wanton oak]

The best stats are the elemental ones

[frail plaza]

That the way it is

[knotty dagger]

@frail plazamhm

[frail plaza]

@knotty dagger

[versed stag]

You can put it on water

[versed stag]

At least $50k for sure 🤪🤪

[warped barn]

It’s ok

[red jetty]

I forgot i can delete messages too

🤣

[orchid copper]

pure f2p gonna laugh on this

march size is still a big gap between vip bands even further now

from peasants at 170 ms as a crazy f2p

to a peasant vip 10 with 250 ms

to a peasant vip16 at 300+ ms

but it doesn't matter anyway

just grab special effects then your units ded

a dead vip16 account is stuck at around 300 or almost 300 ms, although those accounts are already dead cos special effects

[onyx basalt]

What happens if all ur orange gear is shit and gives u no special effects

[orchid copper]

it just means tw mocking u that you didn't spend enough

I would expect a vip16 that spends purely on special effects or catalysts and nothing else

a cute full maxed out titan gear but at 175 ms lol, so cute

[onyx basalt]

I have almost all gold gear on 3 marches, managed to only grab one special effect 🤣

I can’t hit special effect for shit

[shy moss]

Only the gold effects are worth and makes a difference , others are just okay

I have a few but doesn’t do much lol

[onyx basalt]

Nope

I see people with 20% Dmg Inc

Something I’ll never get🤣

[loud gulch]

I’m vip 11 and not 250 March size, I haven’t seen a single vip 10 250 🤭 a few vip 12/13/14 near it

In newer servers^

[onyx basalt]

Interesting, really good spenders hit 250 MS around vip6

[loud gulch]

That’s only buying decor

Others don’t just do that 🫣

But no one is near that 250 number and vip10

[onyx basalt]

Dronex had 250 march vip6

[loud gulch]

Always 12 or above

👁️👁️

[onyx basalt]

At vip8 he had 300

[fierce oriole]

hi duck

[onyx basalt]

👋

[lofty karma]

Far more then that 😉.

[onyx basalt]

Bob the goat

[violet sundial]

help me quit this game i can’t 😖😖😖

[onyx basalt]

I find spending more daily helps achieve this goal

[versed stag]

Ofcourse at least another $20 to 30k minimum after vip 16 and if no vip16 then we can forget about it

[onyx basalt]

I could need that help too

[lofty karma]

Those statues have no buff ( NOT that like a buff would justify that )
Sure you can leave them on the water. But you don’t need them

[onyx basalt]

Just spend more

Solves all issues

If you can’t spend more, find money, and then continue to spend more

[sudden epoch]

we have a vip 12 with 255+13 size

former server 899

[loud gulch]

I mean I’m vip 11 in 2897 with 208+13 ms

No hero bonds yet

Brand new Vip11

[loud gulch]

It’s pretty though 🤭

[sudden epoch]

im vip 9 188+13

[rain mantle]

it means if you mostly focus on only ms

but yeah 250 with vip 10 is still hard

[sudden epoch]

pretty much true. i olmost kick his @ss with 188😬

[rain mantle]

vip 10 250ms is just f2p with 250ms

no stats to back it gonna die to most lower vip with smart spending

[thorny spire]

Next gijoe now, or like eva?

[frail plaza]

250 is small whale only

[steep eagle]

I don't underestimate march size, especially with a decent HT

and people with crazy march sizes are just way too many now.

[rain mantle]

more march size is always better ofc

but with ht formations and equip etc its not the most imp thing

[rain mantle]

it feels like nowadays every person you hit is 270+ ms or smt

[loud gulch]

That is true 😂

[rain mantle]

it just hurts

god damn 30 stack ht

[loud gulch]

I’m just happy with my 200ms 🫠

In S4 200ms is good, once I hit S5 I am a small fly🫠🫠

I won’t be able to do anything in any events and will become a MM

simple life

[rain mantle]

some peeps crazy even in s4

[loud gulch]

I mean yeah but a lot less

[rain mantle]

that karahan guy got 300+

[loud gulch]

He is ultra whale

[rain mantle]

whats asan at now

[loud gulch]

Not a clue, don’t keep up with above 3000

Asan is 10m cp below Karahan

[frail niche]

shut up i have 182 (w buffs 😂 )

[steep eagle]

it still is most important if you are trying to reach to 180+ , and others all are 250+ . that gap espcially with with level 103 units is massive.

[rain mantle]

whats karahan at

[gentle cloud]

Can we save the coupons from this event and use them in the second part of gi Joe?

[delicate gazelle]

Does anyone have the individual defence setup up info. Asking for a friend

[loud gulch]

80 something

[delicate gazelle]

Thanks!!

[orchid copper]

"march size gap is not too much now" 😂

man, everyone is always 200+ even for a weakling

had to find someone who is literally weaker to one shot

[hardy fern]

Yes

[frail plaza]

Yes

[orchid copper]

maximum ms I can think is 186 atm for a f2p CE

assuming you have all the free ms decor from the decor bundle store at level 1

the $1 per day is getting powerful tho, which is still supporting the idea that topwar is getting cheaper in general

[obtuse pecan]

Is there anyway to know how much money you spent on your account? I noticed you get exponentially more VIP points if you buy bigger packs...

Like if you only buy small packs you would need to spend way more than you would if you only bought bigger packs... since you get more points per dollar

[rain mantle]

well if you are useless enough to go through your bank statement and calculate every single $ then yes

otherwise no

i would recommend not doing it

[orchid copper]

that's very true

if you still counting stuffs, it just means you not worthy to whaling

have a mindset like angela, max powerdrill without fear

[rain mantle]

its just pain\

why do it

no point

[obtuse pecan]

trueee

[rain mantle]

all you gonna find out is that you have spent more than you should have

just for that sweet vip 16

[obtuse pecan]

I think you can never spend enough on Top War, it's just that good of a game

just ask Angela

ALL-IN

[rain mantle]

i think top war is nice by not introducing more vip lvls so it dosent hurt

[frail plaza]

$1 per day on events don't give march size

[orchid copper]

jokes aside, the vip points at vip page stays the same tho

[frail plaza]

The least amount of spending is just ex skill shards

[obtuse pecan]

I'm not pickin up what ure puttin down, sir

[orchid copper]

speed up to buy decor bundle at decor bundle store

[frail plaza]

And sometimes a skin like current event because monopoly is good

[rain mantle]

they give gold bp in 2 part collabs and etc

[orchid copper]

lazy to open game to take ss

[rain mantle]

they give alot of things which f2p cant get

[orchid copper]

they have an index list for vip points

[rain mantle]

ig he meant that way

[frail plaza]

Spending more than $5 + $1 daily is upgrading to small spender from minimal spender

[orchid copper]

but battle passes sucked

like lol, multiple battle passes

[obtuse pecan]

Not sure what ure on about but in my currency you get more vip points per unit spent if you buy bigger packs, it's just a fact

[frail plaza]

Wait til they start releasing triple pass

[rain mantle]

its not possible to calculate spending by that

1$ = 6 points 100$ = 648 points

48 extra points

same goes with other packs

[orchid copper]

free extra $8

[obtuse pecan]

math is not your strong side

[orchid copper]

what?

48 extra points means 48/6 = $8

easy

[obtuse pecan]

while you're correct that it's 8 dollars worth of VIP points, you don't get any extra free 8 dollars, wth

[orchid copper]

sometimes you need to make it into money to make you feels good

[obtuse pecan]

8 dollars worth in comparison of buying 1 dollar packs

[orchid copper]

as an asian, everything is valued by money

[obtuse pecan]

aside from buying 100 packs

[orchid copper]

meanwhile, all of this extra vip points are kinda meh unless you're literally at the edge to level up the vip level

like maybe buy a big pack to save some spendings to go level up

[obtuse pecan]

and theres all of the packs in between, at least if you're trying to get an estimate of how much was spent by looking at the VIP points

[bitter bobcat]

When are we going to get to use this alliance monster?

[orchid copper]

[orchid copper]

that one maybe a hard part if we consider these extra points which is means we only can have a rough estimations

which is could more or less than actual spendings

[obtuse pecan]

yeah, you can only get a from and to. the truth is somewhere in between

[reef peak]

guys

i won ID

full points

ayeeeeeeee

7k2 points

[obtuse pecan]

yaay

wo hoo

[zenith cedar]

I got 7027 points in ID

[green zealot]

Congrats jelly

[frail niche]

that's the same as me lol

[reef peak]

ur navy main ?

[frail niche]

nope

[zenith cedar]

Army whale

@reef peak did u got 7002 point?

[reef peak]

somewhere near 7200

[frail niche]

i cri

[zenith cedar]

Whale 🐋

[frail niche]

😔 no

[zenith cedar]

Yes

[alpine elm]

when do you guys think we're going to get the exclusive skill of Scarlett?

[frail niche]

gi joe 2

why would one want that tho?

[frail plaza]

whales

i got 7327 points

[knotty dagger]

@frail plaza

Whale

[frail plaza]

Whale

no hero leak today

[frail niche]

wz is fun

[frail plaza]

[quasi spade]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-smh-kanye-west-what-a-shame-gif-12775860

[frail plaza]

It is fun, I only hit 5 times this week

[sick grail]

A picture good enough?

[frail plaza]

i already seen it the last time you posted it

i want stats

[sick grail]

Oh ok

[quasi spade]

+1

https://tenor.com/view/excited-so-drums-gif-11982656

[frail niche]

I got hit 5 times a day 🤣

[frail plaza]

if i were still in a whale server, i wont even play wz, too much stress

[knotty dagger]

@frail niche

[odd bane]

what is this? new hero?

[sick grail]

Ye

[peak epoch]

What stress… just lose the first day and then stay in the bottom of the list. That’s what I do

[frail plaza]

you'd be at rank 1

[peak epoch]

I use wz to test weírd March setups so…. Less stressful for me

[frail plaza]

[frail niche]

@knotty dagger

[dire sleet]

When new server will come

[green zealot]

Can somebody post the new UD advance rewards 😁

[frail niche]

YESSSS

[green zealot]

🥳

[frail niche]

last day also, feels good

[old radish]

Yes, Someone unlocks it please so I don’t have to burn my 💵🤣

[heavy needle]

Wow decor set directly going to decor set storage

When did they changed it?

[last falcon]

NO MORE GIJOEEEEE

[frail plaza]

Whaling 🍀

209 boxes

[green zealot]

👀

[frail plaza]

Total 1.64k vouchers for $5 + $3 daily

[onyx basalt]

Ging

[last falcon]

What?

[frail plaza]

Lol no good ex skill shards drop this time

Only 700 for 33 boxes

[onyx basalt]

U smell

guys

likelihood of season 2 of GI Joe?

i have only 200 deco ticketsw

should i spend or wait?

[somber apex]

confirmed by rubes

[onyx basalt]

ok

so save up tix

[frail plaza]

there will be

[onyx basalt]

gonna sleep

also...they reset

the UD event

=.=

$5+$20 lulz

[frail plaza]

just like new world

[heavy needle]

Where to keep those ms decors from decor set store? I have no space

Any tips?

[icy parcel]

I saw a SS of what we can keep

[frail plaza]

remove your trees, fountains, walls, etc

[icy parcel]

Who have that ? I cant find it

[frail plaza]

its from vivid

[frail niche]

it’s official?

@frail plaza

[frail plaza]

Yes

[frail niche]

Cool, imma save my remaining 200 vouchers

[frail plaza]

Crafting tokens, dice, vouchers and decor vouchers

[icy parcel]

Thanks you 🥰

[frail niche]

1 box

[frail plaza]

Is this cobra hideout even worth the vit

[reef peak]

🙂

[frail plaza]

The drop rate for the vials are like non existent

[reef peak]

dont ever let me send this emoji Lob

that means im so done to you

[orchid copper]

No

It's a damn scam

[dire pilot]

using double dice or not?

[frail plaza]

double dice, single dice when near first tile

[coarse tiger]

Whatcha buying? I got 1.79k and I'm struggling.

[dire pilot]

why single near first tile? u win the rewards even if u go past it

[frail plaza]

i took gold BP because i had to do it for unlocking remould and i have a bunch of materials ready, and 30 ex skill boxes, im saving the remaining 140

[frail plaza]

hitting first tile gives the most vouchers

[coarse tiger]

Ahh gotcha, very different priorities haha

[dire pilot]

ohh the crown voucher, not the initial one

[frail plaza]

yes

the tile after the start tile

[dire pilot]

thanks, I dont think im patient enough to buy 3$ per day and wait

i got a skin box in like 8 days going until 8.99 pack

only one time 100 vouchers on the yellow boxes tho

[frail plaza]

i cant spend that much, so i have to spread out over 21 days

[dire pilot]

its way cheaper ur way

but I had to buy amalia during the event aswell, that was expensive

and we having new world now

so this month my credit card was used

[formal stirrup]

🔥

[digital jay]

Hola me gustaría saber como se consigue esta base

[sick grail]

#🌍│language-select

[bitter bobcat]

Dammit Syn

Gimme that

[frail plaza]

[real oasis]

Idk if 1508 face any other faction but most to not say all were in the fights vs our faction and we make no deals so maybe your info is incorrect

935 could be another one 🤷🏼‍♂️

[fallow herald]

Question: is it true that you cannot participate in popstar if you are VIP zero??

[rain mantle]

yea

[fallow herald]

What’s the minimum VIP?

[rain mantle]

perma? vip 16++

[fallow herald]

No no no I mean to participate in popstar

[rain mantle]

non perma depends on server

vip 0 can participate ig

5 gifts a day

[reef peak]

Syn | Back to TW !

[rain mantle]

just that they prob wont get popstar base

[lofty karma]

TOPWAR: Collaboration Decorations EMERGENCY Patch : News & How will IT affect US
https://youtu.be/O0YJIiYcY_s

[fallow herald]

@wanton sigil

[simple wadi]

Any leak?

[shadow glen]

I only play about an hour a day or so hahaha. Have fully quit but not playing as much. Only playing right now to pass time at doctors

[simple wadi]

New hero?

[strange depot]

You didn’t declare on 1618 nor they declared on you, so That’s a deal 🤣
We had to spend the whole 2 hours fighting 1720, 935 and 779. Saying everyone were fighting you for 2 hours is false, when in fact, most of us were in other servers for 1 and a half hours approx

Don’t be toxic. You played your cards right, and played well

But don’t lie xD

[real oasis]

Not really 😂 is what you think which is diff

I’m not toxic just see the comment unnecessary after a good weekend

[frail plaza]

Yes, rose donation is limited until vip7

[strange depot]

So you are telling me I don’t know where my server mates were… when I could see and hear the Discord calls… plus myself being one of many that didn’t touch any of your servers until the end… wow

[fallow herald]

Thank you!

[reef peak]

nope , you can still donate 5 roses/day

you can also receive roses as a vip 0

[fallow herald]

Thanks jelly

[modest linden]

[floral torrent]

Is there a UD for dummys

[modest linden]

@reef peak

[reef peak]

ploe

pokie

[modest linden]

👏

[native jolt]

Pookie

[digital jay]

How do you get that base and update it?

[spare oak]

Ooof someone’s mad 😂😂

[reef peak]

that's UD skin is for top severs and it will be given from your leader

[spare oak]

If your future comments become toxic I’ll block you😂 or whatever tf you said on YouTube

[chrome stirrup]

lucky him

[spare oak]

😂😂

[trim cipher]

@reef peak whale

[sick grail]

Cheese why ghost ping me

Ffs

[trim cipher]

@sick grail

[sudden hound]

To find your name fast to private chat😅

[sick grail]

Hey

[sick grail]

Use search button 🤷

[trim cipher]

Youre Alright?

[sick grail]

Yea you?

[trim cipher]

Yeah

[sick grail]

Nice

[trim cipher]

Oh Love that!

[sick grail]

Bit big 😂

[last falcon]

Wait why is there no BoL 😒

[cursive hatch]

Do MM towers effect top trial? Or are MMs 2nd class citizens again?

[onyx basalt]

MM = Third world countries

[cursive hatch]

Hey we have gold mines 😂😂

[sleek kelp]

Did you see how TW said the gi Joe is coming to an end and "heroes will temporarily part ways with all commanders." What do they mean by this

[worldly heron]

I mean temporarily can be taken as "undisclosed amount of time apart"

Aka "coming soon"

[sick grail]

So next gi joe collab might be over 4 years away?

[woeful plume]

3-9 months would be a good guess 🤷‍♂️

[sick grail]

Nah 4 years 😂🤣

[vast goblet]

What do you suggest cobra island base or arcadia?

So silent

[dawn flint]

Acadia. Much more useful with that March size.

[empty plover]

Vik always gave the better advice 😁

[loud gulch]

I mean if you can buy an skin next event get cobra, if this is your only skin for a while get Acadia

I don’t think cobra will come out much more, apart from gi Joe 2

[dawn flint]

Ty sir. Happy to see you’re doing good.

[empty plover]

Same here , happy to see you ,

[empty plover]

How is going on vik ? Cabby is still offline or playing game

[frail plaza]

Collab heroes do not come back if you didn't get them during the collab

Hence, temporarily, you can't get Duke or snake until part 2 comes

[frail plaza]

What storm said, if you gonna get a base skin chest every event anyway, get cobra skin first, then get Acadia on next one, since the next Nemesis copy would be very long time away. If you only got base skin chest in Collab events, get Acadia

[vast goblet]

Thanks everyone

[cunning timber]

Hi guys! Can we keep gi joe voucher for the second event? I understand yes, am I correct?

[frail plaza]

Yes

[green zealot]

Any reason to delay getting morale and start getting the power cores from legion store?

[dawn flint]

His on. But not much. Haven’t seen him chat in months.

[onyx basalt]

wow

all my subs got about 16-18 ex box this round

they are quite generous

for f2p

main $5+$1/day got 900 pts

[green zealot]

You saving for next one

[onyx basalt]

nah

next will have ex shards too

so i went 600 pt ex, 300 pt deco

[green zealot]

How was your luck

[onyx basalt]

didnt open haha

[green zealot]

How many you holding of each

[onyx basalt]

280 ex box right now

and 6.5k ex shards

[green zealot]

es7 inbound

[onyx basalt]

nah

ex5 is enough

i almost got ex7shinji myself

[mikuguide] Credits to jelly, personal defence PD timing

[rustic roost]

hi

[green zealot]

Hey 👋

[bitter bobcat]

Lucky

[glacial sky]

Should I get personal shards for Friedman, Chloe or Tian Mu if Chloe and Tian Mu are 3-stars and Friedman is 4-stars? Friedman needs 259 for 5-star, Tian Mu needs 114 and Chloe needs 115 for 4-star.

This is coming from the Gamma Orange Chest, by the way.

[bitter bobcat]

$5+3/day ended with 1100. Poor luck with the boxes and inner base thing.

[green zealot]

What is your main unit (or which are you getting from elite vouchers)

[glacial sky]

Army, but I don't use any of those.

I've been getting strictly Friedman forever, but I'm wondering if I should switch to the other two so I can get their bonds upgraded.

[green zealot]

Friedmans bond is better

The starting shield at least

[glacial sky]

I was noticing that.

Only need 21 more levels to get Tian's bond up to 6/6.

[atomic pollen]

Is it worth it to use stamina capsules on cobra outpost?

[glacial sky]

Sadly, getting Friedman to 5-star won't be enough to get 20/20 'cause Theresa is only 3-star.

I won't be getting Chloe's bond finished anytime soon either 'cause I don't even have Nereid. xD

Isn't Nereid paywalled, anyway?

So I think I'll get Tian shards since that's the only bond I can actually finish at the moment.

[green zealot]

Those bonds are all gradual but still Friedman is the best. Don’t worry about pushing any of those the bonds are a distraction until your about a year in

[glacial sky]

Friedman is still not a good hero compared to event or limited heroes, so I would think it wouldn't even matter, would it?

[onyx basalt]

uh unless ur a key person in UD

just use vouchers

[glacial sky]

Of course not. LOL

[hardy isle]

Do you get any rewards for these ranking for New World Event

[onyx basalt]

you want to keep about 1k-1.5k gold shard at hand

for good heroes

[last falcon]

no lol

[onyx basalt]

use vouchers to perk

[glacial sky]

Yeah, I know.

[onyx basalt]

and bond

[glacial sky]

I only use universal orange hero shards on limited/event heroes like Gipsy and Stryker. XD

[onyx basalt]

oh wth

my sub cleared pd

rofl

1.4k stats only

[hardy isle]

Ok because my server thinks you get rewards 🤣 but I knew who don't get rewards otherwise they would have shown a ranking rewards list🤣

[last falcon]

exactly lol

[muted harbor]

Reposting my question:

[last falcon]

uh? it increases your dmg inc?

[muted harbor]

Read the decor description

And compare it for example with this:

[last falcon]

just that's what it does

[muted harbor]

"damage increase" and "damage increase boost"

[last falcon]

idk why they throw that lol

"boost" they felt fancy ig

[unkempt ibex]

It’s tw devs not your English professor. It’s just dmg+

[green zealot]

I got bored and got study hard with 250 gs today

[unique bobcat]

ye just a diff way they said it

[quasi sphinx]

Does anyone know is GI vouchers will carry over to part 2?

[unique bobcat]

capt 😑

[dusky sentinel]

How to kill cobra commander? Toss some 2$ innit.

[unique bobcat]

they would

[atomic pollen]

So coz none answering, cobra outpost stamina spend is not worth it right?

[muted harbor]

Because many times it occurred that the things they said differently behaved differently

[green zealot]

Yes 😁

[green zealot]

No

[unique bobcat]

ye

[green zealot]

I still have 1870 gs

[unique bobcat]

what is gs

[green zealot]

gold shards

[unique bobcat]

ooooo

i gib u my uid, wire it to me

[glacial sky]

Oh, hey evieee.

[unique bobcat]

[unique bobcat]

hi, who dis?

[atomic pollen]

Stalker

[native jolt]

Throw your phone

[atomic pollen]

Kek

[unique bobcat]

[green zealot]

I'll wait for the transfer hall to open back up

[native jolt]

Smash it until he dies

[frail niche]

gib $ to smash him

[unique bobcat]

meaning?

[unique bobcat]

u

[dusky sentinel]

Its programmed that you cant kill him freely.

[native jolt]

For decor shards lowkey is

[unique bobcat]

u can but then the bar increases

[atomic pollen]

Low-key?

[native jolt]

U tryna smash me?

[atomic pollen]

I have tons of capsules

[native jolt]

Ong fr lowkey innit

[atomic pollen]

At least 1k

[green zealot]

I can transfer the gold sahrds to you

[native jolt]

I used like 200 caps i think. Got around 200-300 shards

[atomic pollen]

Not sure if I understand what you mean

[native jolt]

Idk worth but fk it

[atomic pollen]

Hmm sounds good, what else you gonna use capsules on?

[dusky sentinel]

But thanks anyway,. Got a drop of cobra commander decor from the free missiles.

[native jolt]

Yeah hahhaa. It is so boring tho

Keep having to press

😑

[atomic pollen]

I never find a reason to use these

[green zealot]

Need to hold just in case

[atomic pollen]

That's why I asked

[unique bobcat]

EL

[unique bobcat]

[atomic pollen]

El you just need to aim for the top 100 right?

[unique bobcat]

stop flirting u whore

[atomic pollen]

I think the unique coins just need top 100

Whatever the coin is

[unique bobcat]

i thjnk u can push for higher ranks w those vits

[unique bobcat]

noice

[atomic pollen]

But why though?

[onyx basalt]

uh

i use about 100 vit bottles every cake event

to get 1 rank and alliance defence

[atomic pollen]

Advice me

[onyx basalt]

basically

[atomic pollen]

My server is a dead server so....

[onyx basalt]

1 vit bottle 3 red voucher or 3 purple skill box

[atomic pollen]

Ah so that's better?

[onyx basalt]

clear the limited ones

then 999 purple box and 10 red voucher

[atomic pollen]

But cobra gives decor and the universal skill shards

That's what I'm thinking