📱│game-discussion

[onyx basalt]

and some burns t1,t2

kum gets burns t1-t4

and kum gets back row damage x1.1 to x1.3

both has around the same air attack up.

[tough hollow]

Yet all choose Brady over Kum

[onyx basalt]

so in the end of the day, its shield 50% vs 100% dmg increase

i know why

[tough hollow]

Why's that's

[onyx basalt]

konkon overvalued the damage reduciton effect

i saw his calculations

he calculated damage reduction has 17% indes

[tough hollow]

Ah konkon san

[onyx basalt]

i 100% disagree

i think its only 3%

cuz u taking 90 shots in a turn

and only 12 gets reduced

so in a 5 turn battle, only 24 reduction in 450 attacks

[tough hollow]

Make YouTube channel miku san

[onyx basalt]

24/450 x 17% indes = ???

[tough hollow]

[onyx basalt]

0.9% indes

[tough hollow]

Start by saying, this is miku yada dis

[onyx basalt]

btw, just 3% vs 17% is huge cuz its indes

[tough hollow]

🫡

[onyx basalt]

so literally konkon overvalues the hero by 15%

ie: brady 15% more powerful

[tough hollow]

Why miku ignoring my suggestions

Math nerds are all same

😔

[onyx basalt]

this is my discord

[onyx basalt]

share stats

thats wierd XD

[onyx basalt]

ah navy vs army

[tough hollow]

Vals vs lvl 101

[worldly heron]

All my chips but 1 is overclocked

And 1 ultra overclocked

[onyx basalt]

but uh

navy march is so bad tho

XD

[tough hollow]

Show rest of stats

Plus HT

[sick meteor]

What other stats you want

Those stats include ht

[tough hollow]

Below ones

[sick meteor]

I’m testing my backup navy march now that asuka is leaving my army

[onyx basalt]

anyways im tired

[frail plaza]

Lol that navy

[onyx basalt]

im confident babi > asuka in a hero combo

at ex0,5

[tough hollow]

No

[onyx basalt]

i always post replays

kum-babi vs kum-asuka

stats asuka slightly beter +100%/200%

[tough hollow]

@reef peak said so

[reef peak]

huh

[tough hollow]

Btw I stand corrected

@reef peak why don't you sleep

[onyx basalt]

what corrected

im just explaining my tests

Asuka > snake (T-me vid) in most situations except against small fish.
Eureka > Duke (eureka 9-1) in all situations except eureka-ritori-ritori
Barbie0 > Asuka0 (barbie 8-3) in air combies with atk up and eureka/duke.

[frail plaza]

Asuka had 40% ATK buff on the video 40% vs 0% Asuka clearly gonna win

[onyx basalt]

despite asuka being on the unlucky side

snake was very lucky

his gypsy and eureka has a high damage-to-normal atk ratio

asuka has it low

[frail plaza]

Snake is supposed to have high "trigger rate" it's counter attack, 12 every round

[onyx basalt]

yea

my model models him as 133% activation rate

120% damage

[frail niche]

Asuka should be working better than snake still

[frail niche]

Why yellow ht vs red one tho

[onyx basalt]

there are small plus minus on each side

its hard to find a perfect match

one side has better formation

[frail niche]

Fair enough

[onyx basalt]

and slightly better stats

[frail niche]

All ex7?

[onyx basalt]

the other had diff HT

u cant ex7

=.=

5 vs 5

[frail niche]

I saw a megalodons fighting, I’ll automatically assume that it’s ex7 on all

2 *

[devout spear]

[onyx basalt]

250 isnt megalodon i thikn

i have 260

:3

300-340 is megalodon

they recently gave everyone cheap +20 march or something

[floral crow]

That report was 280

280 huge

[frail niche]

I mean

[floral crow]

Very few 300+

[frail niche]

That’s 70M ish

[onyx basalt]

if i spend $1k i can get +12

from the deco store .... altho i dont think its a good idea lel

btw

i found a replay

with a whale

[frail niche]

Scary megalodons

[tepid sorrel]

how much is it from 4* to 5*?

[floral torrent]

Vivid?

[onyx basalt]

anyways

yeah

im getting

snake 1 star ex0

[floral torrent]

Does River Game own vivid

[onyx basalt]

duke 3 star ex0 (save 10 shards in the future)

Reason of no snake: asuka is simply better

[frail niche]

360 gs

[onyx basalt]

and that babi>asuka in air at ex0,5

for duke, eureka >>>>> duke it hurts

[floral torrent]

Isn't snake eye better

[onyx basalt]

from this, snake and duke is closer to sucker/serval

[frail niche]

he’s only army, need ex5 to work properly, and can’t fight against bigger peeps

[onyx basalt]

"oh i have only one mega, so i need to ex7 sucker"

kind of hero

heroes weaker to an all-unit hero to me isnt a good idae

[frail niche]

He’s not weaker tho 🤨

[tepid sorrel]

so if the only decent af hero i have right now is max, who would you recommend i work on next? i could 5* lvl5 exc. I dont have brady or asuka😵‍💫

[onyx basalt]

kum?

cornstarch?

babi?

[tepid sorrel]

yeah i have all them, my heroes outdated asf

[onyx basalt]

if ur kum is 5 star

stick with it

eureka-kum-max is to me, the best air ex5 march

IMO

based on maths

[tepid sorrel]

account was inactive/working on perks

my current march is max-starscream😂-megatron

[onyx basalt]

No, vivid owned by CTW games

[frail niche]

Then keep working on perks

[tepid sorrel]

i just finished them🥲

[frail niche]

I see no reason to get kum now, she’s not that good anymore

If possible replace 3 heros at once

[frail plaza]

Good lord get Striker first

Remove starscream

[tepid sorrel]

i was thinking getting striker and saving after

i got like 2.8k skill shards

[onyx basalt]

get striker

striker = safest investment for now

it dominates duke so hard

[frail plaza]

Yeah no doubt striker first

[onyx basalt]

sooo soo hard

[frail plaza]

Ex5

[onyx basalt]

10-0 shinji, 9-1 vs duke

its not even funny

asuka to me is not safe

ex0 recommended 5 star

its a great hero cuz it doesnt need ex5

but not safe cuz game LOVES to print good hp heroes that powercreeps stuffs

babi, crimson are so powerful, even asuka has a hard time being slot in

[tepid sorrel]

and i could always slide striker to army march later on 🤷🏼‍♂️

[frail plaza]

Yes

[frail niche]

I like how you were trashing Barbie before due to g10 removal, and now you’re praising it miku

[tepid sorrel]

seemed like the safest choice

[frail niche]

[onyx basalt]

uh

im always a babi user

and max use

[frail plaza]

Even if striker got a replacement he will just become second march

[onyx basalt]

always

never kicked out babi from defence

babi is always my main defence cuz max is out killing stuffs, and babi is anti-navy

[frail niche]

I like duke, bud dmg is so big that I’m killing strikers’

[onyx basalt]

sorry but eureka>duke

9-1

its not even close imo

any mirror battle will ALWAYS benefit eureka

over duke

EXCEPT duke-kuruzo-kuruzo

or duke-kum-barbie ARMY/NAVY vs eureka-kum-barbie ARMY/NAVY

[orchid copper]

Asuka vs snake verdict?

[onyx basalt]

asuka > Snake imo

[orchid copper]

Well, since asuka is basically a crimson and snake is a polik

[onyx basalt]

very close but i prefer asuka's kit

[orchid copper]

Hmmmm

[onyx basalt]

asuka is all unit

[frail niche]

Personally eu works meh for me. My last row dies too fast (encirclement units comps are not finished yet)

[onyx basalt]

doesnt need DOT but has it

[orchid copper]

Yeah, I don't like snake purely because he is army only. He could be decent if he is uni

[quasi field]

duke shoulda been air 😛

[onyx basalt]

btw

snake kit is "anti-small fish"

he is really bad against stronger players

OR if u try to burn a base

u literally guaranteed to lose on the second fight

cuz u lost a lot of front row units and lose initiative

[frail plaza]

[grave osprey]

What is that damage bruh

I’d take asuka any day

[onyx basalt]

bro

stop using tianmu

=.=

might as well be bob

[high harbor]

So past collab usually give us long lasting universal heroes. This collab is kinda hmmmm 👀

[grave osprey]

Ig

[frail niche]

Exactly

a wz hero

[grave osprey]

Snake isn’t the worst hero to pick up but he doesn’t work well with any heroes and is slightly underwhelming

[onyx basalt]

finally people realise

how bad polik is

u can double polik hp double activation and double polik damage

and polik is STILL bad

thats just how it is

ive been saying this on polik since release

[frail niche]

I mean, he works for defending your base

good enough

[frail plaza]

I would have to use Snake or unless another Asuka come

Asuka in air

[onyx basalt]

i already shown how

babi > asuka

as long as u got a strong dmg up hero like kum/cornstarch/bradyh

[grave osprey]

I’m a f2p with 160 march size and polik only worked well against smaller marches

I always did bad

[frail niche]

Cuz the idea of shooting when you got hit is dumb

u lose units and dmg

[onyx basalt]

he also focuses on the enemy weakest unit

which is usually burnt, debuffed, or whatever

or is max front row unit

thats just sad

ive seen crom and how crom fails to splash

so hard

[grave osprey]

Ikr

And I swear crom’s skill is easily dodged

Along with prime

For some reason

[frail plaza]

I just want army to defend against air

[autumn cove]

My iPad crashed, can I join from my phone?

[winged forge]

I think i will get this Snake eyes, and use him to attack against Wfac

[onyx basalt]

the thing is

even if u use snake, his damage isnt high enough that it makes a big difference. he will probably be about 1/4 of ru damage output

its easier to beat wfac with either correct unit type

or good stats

ie, let whales hit wfac

then u smash it with mass useless units

with a sub

[brisk zephyr]

guys can i ask snake eyes is good to be 5star and lvl 120?

[floral torrent]

There's lv 104 troops... how do I get them?

[winged forge]

His 88% HP enhancement makes me consider of removing the indestructible hero. i might try Gipsy, Asuka & Snake eyes

Already having too much HP buff & Atk buff. Lacking of Indestructible buff

[floral torrent]

How do we get the level 104 troops?

[onyx basalt]

103 is highest

in game

[floral torrent]

When I try to merge my level 103 tanks it shows a level 104 camo tank

[onyx basalt]

wait 2289 🥴

[floral torrent]

What?

[wanton sigil]

Coming soon 🔜

[frail plaza]

They will be available when new world 2.0 for lv120 comes

Soon™

[floral torrent]

Figured

[floral torrent]

Cap

[steep eagle]

Just checking, is there a hero excel sheet?

[floral torrent]

Always

[frail plaza]

Top war won't disappoint

Lv120 is only a matter of time

[steep eagle]

And why why are we getting R&D as a reward from new events ? For recycling?

[floral torrent]

I have been waiting 3 years for level 100

[floral torrent]

Because

People are still below level 80

Even dead accounts

[steep eagle]

Can get it from war hammer.

[floral torrent]

Yup

[steep eagle]

Don't have to spend tons of Vit on baroness, cobra Commander to get R&D

[steady narwhal]

what this means ... better to stay with bryn

[steep eagle]

The event needs more Vit than an EL

[floral torrent]

I haven't been doing much of anything in UD or GIJOE

After I get storm shadow and snake eye I'm good

Transformers was the last interesting event

Naruto or One Piece should be the next collaboration

One Piece collab w/ The Straw Hat Pirates entering the New World>>>TW has entered the New World

Idk I'm tired....

[steep eagle]

Collabs with the speed they are happening, and with the amount of micro transactions built in, have just become a money spinner.

[frail plaza]

Everything is faster now

[steep eagle]

Either you put in money or the gap between spenders vs non spenders will go up.

[steep eagle]

Except game loading time 😂

[frail plaza]

[steady narwhal]

Read comment from Miku ... he is telling that snake is only good against small fishes and against stronger one. Is it better to stay with bryn and skip snake ? will not throw away GS

[onyx basalt]

no

snake > bryn by a lot i think

asuka is the one that imo is a better snake

[hasty tide]

Gip striker asuka5 or gip striker sneak7?

[onyx basalt]

also the best march for all unit imo is still gypsy5-asuka-eureka5

[quasi field]

@onyx basalt do you also think asuke 7 beats snake 7? (i know its early, but curious if you have a sense yet)

[onyx basalt]

7>5

always

ex7 is final score x1.4 which is a lot

a single ex7 is similar to like

3k/3k beating up 2k/2k or somethikng

[hasty tide]

How about asuka 7 and sneak 7? Asuka still better? Combine with gip and striker

[steady narwhal]

i have azuka on planes. on army now gipsy, striker and bryn. should i replace bryn with snake or not. what is advantage and what disadvantage .. any explanation

everything on ex-5

stats 3k/3K/300/300

[onyx basalt]

i dunno

but my gut feel is

asuka ex7 scales better always

whenever ex7 is involved, eureka, asuka, crimson are the kings

gypsy too

as for ex5

eureka >>> duke, asuka > snake, and imo babi > asuka in air

babi is equal to asuka on a fair fight, but deals much better with navy.

[steady narwhal]

then bryn had really short lifetime.

[onyx basalt]

bryn was dead the moment asuka came out

imo, with asuka-gypsy-eureka

everything is dead

before and after these heroes until we get clear cut upgrades

most heroes are now only better in very specific scenarios

like max with HT xyston

or babi against navy in a meta march, or snake against small fish

[steady narwhal]

i have azuka on AF and gipsy,eureka, bryn on army. cannot move at the moment azuka to army 😦 - but can replace bryn with snake. perhaps the best scenario under this conditions

[onyx basalt]

no babi?

even 1 tar?

crimson and barbie are great ex0 heroes

[steady narwhal]

But you cannot put azuka and snake in one march.I have azuka on AF. now i have following options. moving azuka to army ... (Gipsy/eureka/azuka) and skipping snake. But then i need a other hero for AF where i have at the moment Brad/Shinjj and azuka. max i have on ex-5 but he is already nerved a lot. what would best 3rd hero with brad and Shinji for AF

[frail plaza]

Barbie lol

[onyx basalt]

basically

if ur on a budget, barbie/crimson > asuka

which free's up asuka to > anything u want

reason is barbie 72% hp beats asuka's 59%

and that air has tons and tons of damage up, thus diluting asuka's dmg up by a lot

in pure firepower, barbie = 41% chance to apply 382%, while asuka = 30% chance to apply 300%

[reef peak]

Miku

So

No duke or snake eye

[steady narwhal]

have i understood right. Best scenario in my case would be Azuka, Gispy, Eureka on army and Barbie, Shinji and Brady on AF

[reef peak]

Skip all, right?

[onyx basalt]

im going 3 star duke 1 star snake

[loud gulch]

I mean duke is nice to have as 4th indestructible I see it as

[onyx basalt]

just use bob

=.=

[loud gulch]

Snake is skippable unless no asuka or Polik

[onyx basalt]

polik is garbage now

polik is like bradley

might as well not exist

gold hero

[loud gulch]

It’s a good hero for gold!

[onyx basalt]

not only polik has less hp up than bradley

[loud gulch]

Gives me more gold collection :D

[onyx basalt]

polik "whenever you get killed by whale, this skill do nothing"

"hostile effect"

[wanton sigil]

#🖐│player-to-player-support message

[onyx basalt]

if u guys got free time, do try eureka ex5 vs duke ex5 mirror match

just know that ex0 = heavily eureka favored.

its as bad as the thrashing layla, shinji and OP gets against eureka

snake is the best hero in the world to get now lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[opal leaf]

Hey guys i have aka, gipsy,seasoray in my navy formation
I can replace only one
Any suggestions who to replace
In my formation and by whom 🙏

[pallid birch]

replace aka with literally any indes hero, ideally layla or since you're still using seaspray, erinyes, if you want a glass canon glorified death until you can 5* another hero go for crimson first to replace seaspray and then layla

[steady narwhal]

now you're confusing me. Before you said that Gispy, Eureka/Azuka should be the best.

[onyx basalt]

my suggestion is just stop

main army

and treat ur ships as just more tanks

so u set ur ships to gypsy-asuka-eureka, and army to gypsy-asuka-eureka

so when u run out of tanks u send out ur ships

Which of those 5* for main army ? Snake is still 3* and not yet ready. Eureka is also under developed.

[cerulean trout]

Shinji Asuka gipsy should be your best. Run your test for order

[onyx basalt]

So time to send Mega in the sunset ? Or on the farm with OP

mega is for anti-boss imo

it has high damage

so a march like erin-crom-mega can use mega if u dont care about defence

[steep eagle]

asuka would she work with Mega?

[onyx basalt]

vs boss?

[onyx basalt]

gypsy - mega/kum/asuka/crim/babi all works

[steep eagle]

pvp

[wanton sigil]

I hope this new combo in-game stuff is helpful n currect?

[reef peak]

Yes

[steel notch]

I have gypsy/mega/prime. Who does snake replace

[wanton sigil]

This combo says.. asuka is an alternative to maximo..
So I shouldn't use both together ?

It's so tough to follow a main March

[steep eagle]

in army it shows Percy replacing Asuka.... so so so 🤷🏻‍♂️

duke as Saker's replacement.

[next lily]

So this new hero w/ lvl 5 will be better than Polik w/lvl 7 ?

[wanton sigil]

I am just dead n sad 😢 badly wanted to have great meta March for air n army.
N now I am sad 😭😢

[steep eagle]

have you seen an old excel file with heros, and their powers etc. someone used to maintain it.

[wanton sigil]

Miku

[steep eagle]

nah not with the skill etc it was someone else. it was like with power and skill descriptions encyclopedia.

[wanton sigil]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WQ9esD0i-iDDHy-BG5xGXTe0ERa0fXIXMvOWQ6057S8/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16UMhHeOiGzcJ7B_Ssb9Te03PQxuHuhw2IEVrfRlUMKY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[heavy needle]

Erin? Are you serious dude? Stop giving such kind of advice please

[frail plaza]

Wait a few more days and see lol

[onyx basalt]

im reviving erin btw

erin-crom-mega/villi

pure firepower

[steep eagle]

thanks, the second one has some but it was better than those. anyways - thanks

let me max Asuka first, then I got 5 heroes, need to figure out one more. or bring layla out of retirement

[frail plaza]

Replace aka with duke 💀

[pallid birch]

learn synergy

[steep eagle]

you need indes to survive

[pallid birch]

sea is dead on his own hence why i suggested it as a secondary option

[rich turret]

So what I understand the new hero is not that good like Asuka with Gipsy and eureka for army

🤔

[pallid birch]

think a bit better than polik for normal peeps, is like cromwell imo

[steep eagle]

illegitimate child of both of them

[rich turret]

So I will skip it

Thx

[onyx basalt]

crim ex0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sea ex5

so yeah

[heavy needle]

Lol I m navy main, I know synergy

It's so shit Erin

[austere orbit]

Rei ex5 >>>>>>> striker ex7!

[heavy needle]

Lol

[onyx basalt]

rei is garb imo

haha

1 star ex0'd

easy

[pallid birch]

just because she's not useful for you doesn't mean she's not useful, every march has it's own circumstances not every hero works for every march

[heavy needle]

Dude

Please

[pallid birch]

just because you ex 5 first day without tests doesn't mean it's true you whale

[austere orbit]

[pallid birch]

[heavy needle]

Gipsy seaspray duke/ striker will beat that shitty Erin March any day

Never upgrade old heroes

It's so basic

[orchid copper]

sakerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

servaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal

[pallid birch]

seaspray literally does nothing on his own, you're running a 2 hero march

[heavy needle]

Still better

[wanton sigil]

Serval alternative

[pallid birch]

basic attack suicide march

isn't but you're free to think what you will

[wanton sigil]

Who is better

Serval or Barbie ? @orchid copper

[reef peak]

Barbie

[pallid birch]

serval obv, look at her 40% attack enhancement, is like 1000% damage inc equivalent

[wanton sigil]

I tried to explain the same to @outer narwhal
He made fun of me

[pallid birch]

silently retired basically, don't have to listen to him

he old man

[frail plaza]

You're running a 0 hero march if you're using anything less than Layla Crimson

[onyx basalt]

okay guys

testing

[pallid birch]

recommended layla over erin, added erin in if he planned to stick with sea

[onyx basalt]

eureka0-babi-kum vs max0-babi-kum mirror air

:3

[tired fable]

Guys, are the old Valhalla ones already useless?

[frail plaza]

Yes

[onyx basalt]

eureka 2-1 Eureka: 36%win, 24%win, 23% loss

[pallid birch]

as a 3rd recommend i added he could skip indes hero and go for crimson first but he would be dying a lot

[pallid birch]

did you try max asuka kum miku

[tired fable]

So the old valhalla are useless already? I see that they can only be created with low level troops. Now that we are at lvl 100 If I wanted to create the Valhalla tanks for gathering, how could I do it? how to get level 80 troops?

[onyx basalt]

eureka6-1 vs max : Eureka: 36%win, 24%win, 23% loss, 35% win, 33% win, 50% win, 31% win

gg

[pallid birch]

already?
they've been in the game forever

[frail plaza]

You can't, well you could use the help request, 1024 lv70 becomes a lv80

[pallid birch]

how many for 100

[frail plaza]

[pallid birch]

quick maf

[frail plaza]

Meth

[pallid birch]

doable

[tired fable]

So basically old valhalla are useless then

[frail plaza]

Yis

[pallid birch]

107374183 days of help request then

[frail plaza]

10737419 days to get 1 lv100

[pallid birch]

top war will be in hyper realistic vr where we can experience the battle first hand by then

[onyx basalt]

asuka vs barbie?

[pallid birch]

ye

[onyx basalt]

asuka lost 3-8

[frail plaza]

Hell

[pallid birch]

[onyx basalt]

let me finish my tries

i got 4-8 more

eureka-asuka0-kum vs eureka-babi0-kum

asuka lost 0-2: lost 42%, lost 59%

[tired fable]

I see that only low level troops can be created, that's why I was asking about the old Valhalla. So if I wanted to create Valhalla tanks for gathering how could I do it?

[onyx basalt]

asuka even 3-3: lost 42%, lost 59% won 33% won 17% lost 51% won 42%

im out of tries

[pallid birch]

you sit and corner and reminisce until you go back in time and become happy again

[onyx basalt]

losses are bigger for asuka than win

[pallid birch]

sad days

[onyx basalt]

im pretty confident that babi0 > asuka for air

or at least even

in the mirror match

but if ur even in the mirror match, ur much more powerful against navy for babi

[sullen fractal]

Does 914 burn go off if you are in defense but have high fire rate?

[onyx basalt]

babi simply has better toolkit

914 x work on defence full sotp

[sullen fractal]

I was thinking best to do some damage to some one like dosar

Only way lol

[frail plaza]

Only way to damage Dosar is by also having 6k/6k/900/900

[pallid birch]

easy enough

[frail plaza]

The numbers are growing faster

[pallid birch]

maybe we all get lucky and get special effect

[onyx basalt]

i did see a replay just now

of a 4k/4k air user

[frail niche]

we have too low atk n hp now

make 10k each tw

[onyx basalt]

killing 5k/5k 600 600 15x effect

titan

[sullen fractal]

914 and asuka work ok?

To do some damage to whales

[onyx basalt]

914 too old

dont attack whales

=.=

[sullen fractal]

Im defendibg my base

[onyx basalt]

use shields

teleport

hide, or leave it empty

The numbers aren't the problem. The problem is tw's shitty battle system were mass rallies aren't combined forces but simply multiple marches arriving at the same time. Which isn't the same

[sullen fractal]

Lool

I just want points man

[pallid birch]

can i still use rockfield against dosar

[frail plaza]

Put some old army meta as defense

Then maybe someone will attack

[frail plaza]

Rockfield do dmg based on march size so no

You need 350 march

[pallid birch]

doable

[frail plaza]

[sullen fractal]

Everything is doable with the right mushroom

[orchid copper]

striker

[wanton sigil]

90% DMG+

[pallid birch]

serval barbie nadia all in

[onyx basalt]

what

people still wanna try sucker/serval?

[wanton sigil]

It's recommended by topwar

In-game

If you check the new feature hero combo suggestions

[frail plaza]

I think they made snake eye just so they can remove Polik from their recommend line up 😂

[next lily]

Polik w/lvl 7 worse than new hero w/ lvl 5?

[onyx basalt]

yea

polik ex7 power 440%

asuka ex0 power 481%

new hero ex5 power 495%

[next lily]

Yikes

[frail plaza]

It's literally Polik 2.0

[next lily]

Welp, guess I'm getting his lvl 7 then

[onyx basalt]

i wont buy ex7 unless its gypsy, crimson, asuka, which has 850%-900% power

no bro

dont

dont u fkin do it

[frail plaza]

[onyx basalt]

if you need an ex7 get asuka

[next lily]

So Asuka lv 7 over this dude?

[frail plaza]

Asuka ex7 is more useful

[onyx basalt]

ex7 power level: gypsy 804%, asuka 899%, crimson901% (but navy only)

[next lily]

I'm using Gypsi 7, Shinji 7, Polik 7 atm

[onyx basalt]

problem with asuka is u need to buy ex shards lel

anyways

dont ex7 unit-specific heroes

100% gonna regret

[next lily]

Well ye

[onyx basalt]

if u wanna ex7, ex7 indes heroes, gypsy-like heroes and all-unit heroes

gypsy and asuka is the best now

asuka being the safest

asuka also future proof since she herself can equip two power monster effects

40% attack up effect and 40% shield up effect

[next lily]

So I should do Asuka/shinji/Gypsi?

[onyx basalt]

doubling her abilities

[next lily]

For army

[onyx basalt]

for all

if u only got 3 ex7

then just use ur units on the three heroes

[next lily]

I don't, got full lvl 7s on air aswell

[onyx basalt]

yes

thats why i said just use the same heroes for all three units

gg

g2g

[thorny spire]

https://tenor.com/view/war-top-gif-25119366

[frail plaza]

What's your air?

[steep eagle]

Gassy tummy

[austere thunder]

Who is stronger with out the exclusive skill asuka or snake eye?

[wanton sigil]

Asuka

[frail plaza]

@orchid copper #🔥feedback-ud-totalwar message lazy f2p deserves to die

[cold hazel]

Just to be sure - it say on Snake, "if target dies 15% Damage increase" - Thats not really clear - if a Stack has 25 units and i kill 1 of them theoretically "a target" died.

[stark cedar]

@onyx basalt i bought lvl 7 asuka

[pallid birch]

for the most part both players and game refer to stack as a slot of units

[pallid birch]

wuh you whale

thought you were f2p now

[cold hazel]

it would be crazy otherwise, but it's again not clear written

[pallid birch]

i can promise you they are referring to the slot

[orchid copper]

At least those "stronger servers" agrees that weaker and dead servers are just mere meat to eat

[stark cedar]

im just kd

i only have lvl 5

[pallid birch]

[pallid birch]

wut are you eating in a completely ded server tho

that singular 50 mil won't unshield to die within 2 seconds

[onyx basalt]

u should do in UD

[orchid copper]

Single 50M whales?

[onyx basalt]

i always let myself get killed in UD

for max personal points

[orchid copper]

[onyx basalt]

last 10 minutes = go kamikaze

link ur base in world/UD chat

[orchid copper]

That's why you need mutant villiers

Break shield

Then burn

[onyx basalt]

attack enemy whales till lv80

downgrade

[pallid birch]

once we take buildings nd everything done i just leave my base next to cap to get burned

[pallid birch]

mutant villers when #📮│game-suggestions

also can you only get this guy from mock battles?

haven't seen him once outside of that

[stray copper]

Fr?

[prisma parrot]

<@&651622161219584000>

So, as I was saying, SnakeEyes is good but

Scarlett is best

https://tenor.com/view/wanda-the-great-the-best-witch-gif-26207004

[indigo radish]

[tame pier]

Maybe Scarlett is better in cleaning

[austere orbit]

Why there is no monkey mod?

[alpine elm]

So what is the final verdict...does snake eyes replace Asuka for army? thanks

[reef peak]

for the first day when Snake Eyes just released, people are saying he won't replace Asuka

you might want to stick to this channel and look around till the ends of event

to see what other players judge about him

[sacred slate]

Asuka all the way dawg

I put my snake eyes with gold production in the meantime

and AF march need his own Indes heroes with the same speciality (Air Force)

[sick grail]

asuka over megatron

[austere orbit]

Top bor

[drowsy pulsar]

They increased the points this week right… more military medals 🔥

[fickle verge]

Yes

We actually have some decent fights this week

[reef peak]

#💡topwar-qna message

go go go

[trim cipher]

Yeah of course x🤣🤣🤣

[reef peak]

TC during UD

let's go

[fickle verge]

About time as I was just about to quit

[reef peak]

TC BOL will have other limit participate

lol i hit 50m for nothing

i rushed my 50m for thing guys

i might meet issue of my BOL matchmaking as well

me so dumb

[quartz hazel]

Hello I am using yuu as of now so who should i change her with?

[reef peak]

Duke

🤓

[fickle verge]

What limit? Just curious if my alt can still partake

[quartz hazel]

But also have stiker at 5*

🤣

Tho currently is in air

[jagged dagger]

Use Bailos ex7 or Mega ex5 for Navy?

Guys

[reef peak]

these 4 updates are all from #📮│game-suggestions

or maybe CS in-game lol

but yeah , i saw them in FR channel too

was really trying to let you guys know they do listen to us

[fickle verge]

I don't see anything about changing the 50m

[autumn creek]

How good is duke compared to other heroes?

[fickle verge]

Not enough in all honesty

[reef peak]

it's not directly saying about "50m"

[fickle verge]

That to me says it is catering for the people that are under 50m and can't play

So I guess the 50m stays

[quartz hazel]

Mega

[reef peak]

they said Duke is not good as Striker

but better than Layla

at ex 5

[reef peak]

then it's good , i didn't mess with my CP

[jagged dagger]

@reef peak bailos ex7 or mega ex5 for navy?

[fickle verge]

Yes it is, many did inflate it to get there

[reef peak]

omg , maybe balios7 cause mega can go with other type

[fickle verge]

Test them with your set up and see what does the best, we have battle clash for that

[reef peak]

i haven't upgraded Duke too

im Navy + AF main

so Duke might fit a lot

[fickle verge]

What do you have as Navy?

[quartz hazel]

Question is with which march 😂 air or navy

[reef peak]

ahahah like nothing. Seaspray + Yuu + Mega

[fickle verge]

Still a second march

[reef peak]

yeah need a lot of changes

see I can't follow meta

i skipped a lot of heroes

and those have been out of meta really quick

[fickle verge]

I can understand that

[reef peak]

i have 2.7k gs ahaha

[quartz hazel]

I current using, Nemo, yuu and crimson and any suggestions while air has max cranston and stiker

[reef peak]

[quartz hazel]

For navy

[cosmic ridge]

hi

[fickle verge]

Lol I don't as upgrade the majority of the heroes

[knotty dagger]

@reef peak

[reef peak]

cranston can go with Duke too and Yuu is way too old

[quartz hazel]

Can only get 1 level 5 exclusive

[reef peak]

you might want to go with DUke

but honestly Duke is not very good as Striker

[fickle verge]

But that means taking his air apart

[quartz hazel]

Lol air march only level 3 exclusive as navy main

😅

[fickle verge]

Aren't you in our faction Falcon?

[quartz hazel]

174?

[autumn creek]

Mmh ok thanks

[fickle verge]

Different one then no 1508, another Falcon

[quartz hazel]

😂

[unreal tapir]

[reef peak]

ur in 1508 ?

you transferred to there ?

[fickle verge]

I have been for a long time lol

[reef peak]

ah okay

[fickle verge]

Transferred my main then later transferred my 1112 account to there

[knotty jewel]

👀

[fickle verge]

[fickle verge]

I don't go with that at all since it recommended Saker for air

[quartz hazel]

Lol isn't that the main confusion

[reef peak]

yeah hahahaha that's why I dont have Duke 5* now

i might skip him too

who cares about meta

[quartz hazel]

I need to upgrade my navy tho 😅

Too old

[fickle verge]

In all honesty I would decide on one march to work on and get them to level 5 exclusives, sort out the equipment etc and get as strong as possible then worry about a second march

[reef peak]

my upgrade plan is different

[quartz hazel]

Event with this stats I keep on losing

[reef peak]

upgrade the same 2-3 types

use universal heroes only

[fickle verge]

That's what I did on little Jessie

[reef peak]

when main march out of meta , push them to 2nd march

[fickle verge]

He has a passable second march though

Just old

[wanton sigil]

@drowsy pulsar no troll 🧌 huh 😒 they gave suggestions of sevral as alternative to Barbie

In-game

🙈

[fickle verge]

They suggested Saker when I have all the meta heroes

[drowsy pulsar]

The alternative to winning I suppose is indeed losing so....

[wanton sigil]

Hoping something decent 🤞

End of year 🎈

[drowsy pulsar]

I'm just waiting for the buyable ending

[fickle verge]

Christmas present

[onyx basalt]

santa claus doing our dailies??

[drowsy pulsar]

Titan legends every other week might be fun

[onyx basalt]

[fickle verge]

Yes automated santa claus

[reef peak]

where

i want it

[fickle verge]

The burden of daily tasks being sorted before the end of the year lol

Nothing overly exciting but for me BOL coming back is great as its my favourite event

[reef peak]

only BOL

i thought normal TC

let me check again

#💡topwar-qna

ah both

[fickle verge]

Yes both and I really like it so I'm happy

Was getting boring with just UD

[steep eagle]

ya baroness is the new thing, no more vit , thus more burden of tasks

[wanton sigil]

[wanton sigil]

2 hours of weekly event

Nothing else to do

[fickle verge]

Exactly but still its an improvement

[reef peak]

better than nothing

[reef peak]

yeah honestly TC is the best event so far

good rewards, no lost vals

i can convince inactive members to join

and guess what

they fight for the whole battle actively lol

TC is such an improvement

[onyx basalt]

No, you pay 100 gems per day and all daily’s auto-finished (wild guess)

[onyx basalt]

100 gems for 100 gems reward 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

nice deal

[fickle verge]

Will they do it properly though to my exacting standards

[steep eagle]

forgetting the vit we need to buy with those gems

[onyx basalt]

[loud gulch]

What better? 3 level 5 rare dmg inc or 1 level 5, 1 level 6 & and level 5 attack?

Nearly level 6 attack^

[onyx basalt]

or they removing dailes

[onyx basalt]

3 level 5

[steep eagle]

3 fives

[wanton sigil]

Best

[onyx basalt]

attack is last priority to go when you are about to die

[steep eagle]

don't remove dailies even those 100 gems would disappear

[loud gulch]

Okay thanks all :)

[fickle verge]

Not really as you lose out on rewards

[wanton sigil]

1$ for finishing all dally tasks

[steep eagle]

🤦🏻‍♂️ don't give such ideas

[onyx basalt]

might happen seeing recent events

[steep eagle]

then they will rent a person for 50$ a month for playing the game for you.

[onyx basalt]

uh

i just use a cat

to finish my dailies for ne

me

[steep eagle]

smart-cat

here I at times get confused with the red dots that are popping all around.

[onyx basalt]

saker selina serval 🥹🥹 decent combo ??

[steep eagle]

decent ? it is "effectiveness in simplicity"

[onyx basalt]

TW-style

[onyx basalt]

TW giving good ideas to make good combination

[steep eagle]

Power of words sir, power of words. that was sheer poetry and you reduced it to "decent" 🤣

[fickle verge]

Err no

[onyx basalt]

i can't see that duke who was at the first place 😭😭

[frail plaza]

[onyx basalt]

MODS should try this combo as representative of TOP WAR

[onyx basalt]

so others can get idea 😜

[steep eagle]

they got es70

[onyx basalt]

don't know these heroes will work even with es infinite

[steep eagle]

Bob Works 🤷🏻‍♂️ - I remember 2 years ago they released "meta" heroes for each unit type. That time they put "Ganzo" as Meta. it was hillarious

[onyx basalt]

they might put them back soon in heroes combo list who knows

[fickle verge]

They should do and let us know how it works out

[onyx basalt]

yes battle reports should be spread over community to people can get inspiration and make these heroes

[steep eagle]

I was very eager for Mutants. I thought this would create lot more engaging, different game play. also provide many players with more options. But sadly mutants was just old heroes getting "punk" hair style.

old heroes - midlife - crisis

[onyx basalt]

was waiting for katyusha to become maximo

[steep eagle]

🤣 haha true true

[fickle verge]

I was waiting for Rockfield to actually work with encirclement

[onyx basalt]

best hero nereid to go if you don't have crimson yet

[onyx basalt]

mutant was prank

[fickle verge]

Yes not useful at all

[wanton sigil]

At least something to gain in radar 😀😀 rush 😁

Everyone finished those radars without Miss

[fickle verge]

Yes that would be good lol

[orchid copper]

Spider punk vibes

Everyone is funky

Gib us mutant max

[orchid copper]

Yes

[onyx basalt]

how to get some reports of these combo 🥹🥹

[lofty karma]

TOPWAR: Using Snake Eyes vs Brunhildr Battles to explain : A LOT OF THINGS | Watch …It’s IMPORTANT
https://youtu.be/PNU2x_Dc2hY

[frail plaza]

@slow pagoda I'm gonna upgrade Brady later, you wanna test?

[slow pagoda]

2 parts 🤔

[wanton sigil]

Yea they ended this one

[slow pagoda]

Yes.

[onyx basalt]

the thing is

[wanton sigil]

So maybe June /july

[onyx basalt]

ex7 is strong

but in t-me's vid, its likely the asuka is ex7

so when u match.....low ex snake with asuka ex7 bryn ex7

the ex7 has a x1.4 x1.4 = x2 advantage from ex alone

so even if bryn is, say, 40% weaker than snake, ur "carried" by the ex7

this is why to me, the only fair test is something like

eureka-gypsy-XXX

XXX = bryn vs asuka vs snake

5 vs 5 vs 5, 7 vs 7 vs 7 everything else fixed

[steep eagle]

best was someone said if Katyusha got Mutant version - she would look like Maximo 🤣

[steep eagle]

yup save those tokens - base next time

[loud gulch]

Oh miku

You know how you have all these spreadsheets and so amazing

Do you have one to say how much

Attack % = dmg inc %

Hp% = Dec Dmg %

Etc etc?

Like the comparison of how much HP = how much Dec dmg

👉🏻👈🏻

[ancient ice]

complaints about ex L7s

[slow pagoda]

Let see if I can complete this time without spending much 🤣

[orchid copper]

Yay

Part 2

Time to save all my shiets

Wait no

It means more collab heroes

Dang, mega max prime 2024

[red jetty]

👀👀👀

[slow pagoda]

You gonna end at mega max prime 🤣

[orchid copper]

Yeah, I gonna keep waiting with this outdated march

[ancient ice]

you mean ? GI JOE2 is scheduled ? already

[wanton sigil]

To be continued...

[dawn flint]

🤣

It’s always to be continued.

[wanton sigil]

[slow pagoda]

You gonna keep waiting till end of game 🤣..you will be first player to show intense love to transformer

[dawn flint]

Don’t show them that one. 😂

[frail plaza]

Old

[green zealot]

Probably needs to be updated but somebody made this at one point

[frail plaza]

For sure after UD

Top war is very fast nowadays

Inflation

[dawn flint]

Cobra commander coming soon. 🤣

[slow pagoda]

What next now 🙈

[wanton sigil]

I saw.. cobra commander die in the video

[green zealot]

Next army hero replaces snake eyes

[wanton sigil]

His plane was blasted

[dawn flint]

He does that every episode.

[heavy needle]

@lofty karma video shows how big of a waste Bryn was lmao

She was saying let me magnetize your wallet 🤣

es5 vs es7 lmao

[heavy needle]

Please no

[wanton sigil]

3 more heroes possibly

[heavy needle]

Btw duke is very good hero, he just needs good attack buffers

[loud gulch]

Thanks, will have to ask Miku🤭🤭

[reef peak]

my sever hate me doing Suppy

[loud gulch]

LOL

[zenith cedar]

Every hero is good until a new hero show up

[austere orbit]

We need monkey mod

[heavy needle]

He is universal that's important, for low spenders and f2p he is superb

[zenith cedar]

Yes

[austere orbit]

Shake shake

[pale reef]

🆓

[onyx basalt]

anyways

[zenith cedar]

[onyx basalt]

anyone knows exactly how slime cooldown works?

[zenith cedar]

Part2

[pale reef]

[onyx basalt]

aynways

[fallow herald]

Anywho

[onyx basalt]

i finished a lot of eureka vs duke, asuka vs babi tests

[pale reef]

[onyx basalt]

and at same ex0,5, eureka is dominating

babi is...slightly better than asuka if u run all planes

BUT, my opinion is babi anti-navy effects is much better than asuka DOT

[pale reef]

[elfin marlin]

Is mining gold still good for arms race , gathering resources?

[onyx basalt]

GG.... the V tuber quit youtubing

im using her as the skin for duke

[green zealot]

Let me know if he sends an updated version I've also been wondering about the hp->dmg dec

[onyx basalt]

it depends on ur stats

but yea as a rule of thumb

1 atk = 0.5~1 hp

1 dmginc = 9 atk, 1dmgdec = 6 hp, 1 def = 15 hp, 1 shield = 12 hp

the exact formula is simply

stat A+1 / stat B +1

relative value

[green zealot]

Interesting didnt know sheild was basically 2 dmg dec

[onyx basalt]

so if u got 10% def and 3000% hp

[onyx basalt]

the relative value is 3100%/110%

whatever the number is

30x

if u got 3000% attack and 300% dmg inc

3100%/310% = 10x

indes is slightly different because you have to convert indes into effective hp first. you do this by converting indes to damage taken as % of what it was before (eg: 40% indes = 0.6x dmg taken, then u solve for dmg taken=1/(1+A)

so 40% indes = 0.6 dmg taken, A = 70% or so

70% indes = 0.3 dmg taken. A = 240%

[sick meteor]

If I’m using gipsy + snake eyes it’s better to build striker over Duke?

[onyx basalt]

eureka is ALWAYS better than duke

except when used with two ritori

or kuruzo

[sick meteor]

Cool

Kuruzo is gonna make a comeback

[onyx basalt]

duke is better than eureka on a standalone basis

but eureka > duke in any combo's

[sick meteor]

Thanks

[onyx basalt]

meta combo

[loud gulch]

1hm duke meta xD

[onyx basalt]

running total now is

eureka winning 18-2

i can only fight up to 20 times a day so

eureka 18-2 against duke, barbie winning 11-6 against asuka

crim is definitely better than asuka (mathematically). and asuka vs snake tests on going (but no one doing fair battles)

[frail plaza]

you mean 11-6

[onyx basalt]

😎

[onyx basalt]

i would say barbie = asuka in mirror battle

[loud gulch]

Barbie > Asuka 👁️👁️

[onyx basalt]

but barbie kit against navy is much better than asuka DOT imo

[onyx basalt]

Duck > Barbie > asuka

[loud gulch]

I like duck

Duck good hero

[sick meteor]

Asuka is probably better if you have a bunch of ignition sfx

[onyx basalt]

Needs a nerf, too strong

yea berns

[loud gulch]

That’s why I put asuka in army and barbie in 2nd air force

[onyx basalt]

but babi has anti-navy

to me thats huge

if babi > asuka in the mirror match

babi >>>>>>>>>> navy

[sick meteor]

Hmm

[onyx basalt]

as babi ignores HA, silence