📱│game-discussion

[wanton sigil]

Previously

[orchid copper]

I hate your remix

Makes me so drunk

[wanton sigil]

61000

Vochers

[wraith prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-peace-i-want-problems-always-choose-violence-no-peace-problems-gif-24342946

[frail plaza]

[orchid copper]

6100 free gold chips

Easy overclock

[frail plaza]

imagine missing out on 6.1k free gold chips

lazy f2p

so lazy that you didnt exploit the bug for free gold chips and HT modules

[wheat cypress]

imagen if they banned everyone who abused it for a month

[rose falcon]

Wouldn’t that harm their income? 😂

[frail plaza]

finally, the world is burning

[wraith prairie]

Give everyone a free gold pulse jammer

[frail plaza]

give to those who didnt get 10 purple cards

[wraith prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-no-disagree-hell-no-gif-15861629

I got the free 10 😭

[terse bloom]

2515

[wintry stream]

👋

[dim sun]

Into the unknowen attacks disabled?

[tired olive]

What March is this best for ?

[frail plaza]

for whale obviously 🐳

[delicate gale]

Not sure yet, people said its mainly for defense...

[onyx basalt]

TW simply removed nine purple tickets from my inventory. Tickets i did not obtain from any glitch. 🤬
Someone take quietly assests from TW bank accounts and say it was a glitch.

[delicate gale]

This HT is more like a new hero

[steady narwhal]

is this new HT worth to develop quick ... is he better as other or not

[delicate gale]

Hardluck, but i still have the 1 i had from before...

[delicate gale]

Probably the best HT i think

[dim sun]

Not the best ht ,he will be good on navy,and also u can use him when your main ht die in svs.

[frail plaza]

[stone marsh]

The bug gave peopl purple tickets in into the unknow except me, they took the 3 purple i had....whyyy

[wanton sigil]

People have already took it 😆 how fast Ka'ching Ka'ching 💳

[delicate gale]

Wow nice

How is it ?

[dim sun]

Why i cant get this? Bug?

[tired olive]

Thanks

[steady narwhal]

they are rolling back now and taking it away ...

[wanton sigil]

This is sad 😢

Never seen a aunt who takes the money back

[steady narwhal]

TW understanding: If devs make mistake they rollback ... if user makes mistake .... it's users problem

[tired olive]

Bro then I need like 9 hts 😂

[steady narwhal]

if have not really checked before that i got 20 instead of 2 .... also not used it asap .... now they have taken away 18

other companies would tell .. you had luck .. our fault ... close the bug and live go's further ... but not TW ... they are greedy like hell

[orchid copper]

HT amount should have been the same as formation count

Release 3rd formation!

[frail plaza]

You exploited bug? Remove purple cards, you didn't exploit the bug? Who cares, remove your purple card too, 100% your fault for not using them

[orchid copper]

Rollback then send system mail to say sorry and give you

[native jolt]

Yooo

Who got this

[delicate gale]

💯💯

Anyways i didn't got any bug benifits so I'm happy it got rolled back

[exotic trail]

When Is ud?

[native jolt]

Btw is there lvl 6 turbine

[delicate gale]

🤣

[delicate gale]

Maybe

[dense wind]

nope

[steady narwhal]

End of October lockdown

[delicate gale]

Coming soon

[exotic trail]

End of october? Not start november?

[steady narwhal]

Yes starting begin of November

[exotic trail]

Donwe have a date of when It Will lock ?

[steady narwhal]

Transfer closed for longer time

[delicate gale]

Nothing disclosed yet

[onyx basalt]

TW: you got items because mistake. we do a refund...into nothingness.
Also TW: YOU do a refund because mistake? ACCOUNT BANNED!!!!!!!

[steady narwhal]

As it looks now the transfer cycle on 5th nov will bot happen anymore

[onyx basalt]

Great bug! Force people to spend more money to progress the HT 😊

[orchid copper]

Imagine refunding itself also against ToS

[onyx basalt]

Those TOS are illegal in EU.

[steady narwhal]

They will not tell anything before they announce UD .. and then it’s too late

[orchid copper]

Imagine banning an official platform feature

Refund button exist for a reason

[delicate gale]

Yeah that might happen though

[orchid copper]

Something big in october?

Man, rip transfers

[steady narwhal]

What I heard the next transfer cycle is last one before lockdown

[onyx basalt]

november. UD

[delicate gale]

Not sure yet

[delicate gale]

Wow really

[onyx basalt]

UD in november was confirmed by vip support

[lofty karma]

TOPWAR: Doom Sawblade D-4 | Research, Modules , Recommendations | Opening Boxes
https://youtu.be/-ckV4CXBC-o

[fallow herald]

Thank you!

[steady narwhal]

Will be interesting how they rollback if users already used the cards … opened the boxes and upgraded/used chips

[lofty karma]

Ye guys. Don’t stress it . I think you will find a great approach in this video

[dense wind]

They can track the chips, modules and gems gotten from repeated modules, and these will be removed

Like they did with 100 shards Beach Landing incident

Where they removed heroes progress used by the bugged 90 shards

[trim cipher]

😂

[onyx basalt]

in case of the 100 gold shard screw up they removed 90 shards by force with a specially written script going as far as reverting heroes to 1* to get them

[fallow herald]

It was said a couple days ago that the fourth HT was going to be about money

[onyx basalt]

I'm not in the mood of laughing

[steady narwhal]

This was easier … now you have used chips from this bugs together with older chips for upgrading

[dense wind]

They can also track that

[steady narwhal]

Perhaps time to not play with this money policy

[onyx basalt]

Definitely not spending a single cent on a bloody ht

[dense wind]

But 4th ht is not about money (?) you can still get the modules from chests

You can rush it yeah, but eventually you can max the modules

[wanton sigil]

It took me 3.5 months for white HT

[onyx basalt]

i haven't spent anything on the shark ht. still got ultimate form. took just a little longer time.

[wanton sigil]

This should take same full completing full 🌕🌝

[dense wind]

Nah might take a little more

Because there are more Heavy Troopers, thus less probabilities to get the module you need

[trim cipher]

@lofty karma hey T.. It may not be on the chip boxes yet... but according to the description you can get them from these boxes too!

[frail plaza]

Lucky with the HT chests, I haven't completed shark HT yet

[lofty karma]

See the video. I got one

[trim cipher]

Yes i saw your Video 😂 Because you said they're not in the boxes. 😅

How to get:

➤【Standard Body/Auxiliary Module/Combat Module/Transmission Module】
Commanders can obtain Mech Module Research attempts through two methods:【Complete daily tasks】and【Purchase Module Research Bundle】
*The daily attempt limit for Heavy Trooper Module Research is 30.
Spend research attempts to advance module research progress. As you progress through research, there's a chance for a critical strike that can result in significant advancement. When the progress bar hits 100%, you'll obtain the researched module, and any excess progress will be applied towards the next module.
After the research process is complete, any extra research attempts will be converted into Gems. Please claim them in the Valuable Events-Event Reward Center.

➤【Golden Chestplate/Spiragold Cutter/Spiked Armor/Anti-Tracking Cannon/Boost System】
Commanders can obtain it through a chance drop in [Into the Unknown], or there is also a chance to get it by opening the [Sasanian's Chain HT Chip Chest].
After obtaining 4 modules for Doom Sawblade D-4, it can be assembled on the assembly platform and deployed for battle. 👈

It was the same with the Shark HT

[lofty karma]

Ah. True Moon

Thank you @trim cipher

[trim cipher]

Anytime 🤗

[trim cipher]

Amazin- Video btw

[lofty karma]

Thank you a lot buddy ❤️

[trim cipher]

[vast vale]

Into the unknown still not working for everyone?

[rotund dove]

Not only is it still not working, they're stripping purple tickets from people

[quasi field]

feature request: suck 5% less.

i kid! i kid!

make it 10%

[wanton sigil]

Make a video . Where we get vip 16 achievement completed.. without spending money

https://tenor.com/view/swimming-in-money-rich-laughing-hysterically-money-dive-jaime-lorente-gif-13865195

[lofty karma]

You do realize I could have use this time to watch series brother ?
2 days ago : 18 hours out of 24
Yesterday: 17 hours out of 24
That’s the honest answer I will give you

[fallow herald]

Yes, certain things to a degree are absolutely free. I wasn’t stating that you can only get it by paying for it. The discussion was about buying a ton of chests to get the right chips.

[regal acorn]

expansion of territory cost 2k gems. that's insane 😅 newer servers got it free.

[wanton sigil]

Why you are so nice... You are supposed to be brutal

[lofty karma]

I’m only brutal on the battlefield…or at least I try 😂😂

[fallow herald]

No estimated time on when it will reopen

[sick grail]

it was fixed and they broke it

so should be easy

[trim cipher]

Burn me 🤓

[sick grail]

re roll the damn code

or do they not take backups

if they dont they noobs ngl

[wanton sigil]

Day 1 : new event - #🏅│memes-winners message

[lofty karma]

Done …who’s next 😂😂

[trim cipher]

😂😂❤️

[sick grail]

me

you send lvl9 unit

[lofty karma]

On cooldown. You wait you must 😂😂😂

[regal acorn]

🤣🤣

[sick grail]

and then see who wins 😈

[trim cipher]

😂😂😂

[sick grail]

cooldown for buring people this is new 😮

[trim cipher]

A lvl 9 burned me 😂

Ok i was empty 😂

[fallow herald]

Maple going to work with Crimson and Layla?

I know we’ve had this discussion but I can’t remember

[sick grail]

https://tenor.com/view/it-sucks-to-be-you-gif-18294838

[trim cipher]

It was fun 😂

[sick grail]

maple syrup of course!

[lofty karma]

Absolutely NOT. You need offense buffing hero

[sick grail]

it sticks all the enemies down so theycant move easy win

[fallow herald]

Thank you brother. Somebody had asked me in my server discord and I couldn’t remember the discussion about it so I appreciate that

[sick grail]

give us a jug i can use on MBB ez win

base gone in seconds at the power of maple syrup

[trim cipher]

😂😂😂

[sick grail]

https://tenor.com/view/syrup-wedding-crashers-i-love-maple-syrup-i-know-everything-about-maple-syrup-gif-15085546

[lofty karma]

I’m trying to answer everything..but I’m flooded with DMs everywhere. I must recruit a nice secretary soon 😂😂

[trim cipher]

Let me Help you 😂

[sick grail]

isnt that what ragnar is for 👀

[fallow herald]

I can only imagine. Your time is appreciated

[sick grail]

you got burned by lvl9 shh you no help!

[trim cipher]

😞😂😂🥃

[silk pasture]

Even if u buy the 19.99 event pack one of the quests is completing the into the unknown so not getting money worth if u can't complete all the daily quests

[sick grail]

4 HT same way as shark HT to get it

[regal acorn]

do q&a session on YouTube.

[sick grail]

soo can get in f2p in like 3 months

[trim cipher]

I have to Finish this in 2 Other Accounts 🥺

[sick grail]

sigh

[fallow herald]

It’s not going to be down forever I’m sure it will be back up in a couple hours

[sick grail]

||This is why you got burned by a lvl9||

[trim cipher]

And now i cant start with the new one

[trim cipher]

I dont have the Report anymore

[sick grail]

not surprised

[onyx basalt]

Old chip boxes are giving also new chips and new HT components

[lofty karma]

Yes

A viewer got 4 modules

[onyx basalt]

I got 2 modules from 100 boxes various values

[sick grail]

angelka got all 5

[hexed elm]

1 module from 1 box😎 now i’ll have no luck with the other 8😂

[sick grail]

4 you get for free lol

[hexed elm]

true, but takes forever lol

i had no luck with the shark HT, constantly getting the lowest multipliers

[onyx basalt]

I am curious how long it will take to get last 3.

[sick grail]

i aint got first

[trim cipher]

You See.. its just the Text who isnt correct

[lofty karma]

Ye

[trim cipher]

They'll probably fix it tomorrow or something

[reef nimbus]

I use layla crim gypsy

[steep eagle]

When are the rest getting "extra" unknown bounty?

Here Shark is still left. Then come to know of glitch, 😂 I want in on it.

[uncut jacinth]

So how many of ya got 20 tickets in the into the unknown )?

[pallid birch]

@orchid copper you're 40 mil?

whalin

[steep eagle]

I know someone who got 110

[worn igloo]

Is into the unknown down?

[steep eagle]

Yup.

[sleek pewter]

what's the new max level gunna be

I thought tw said 100

[cunning mesa]

Yes 100

Troop 101

[sleek pewter]

oh okay

[cunning mesa]

Valhalla 103

[sleek pewter]

troop 101 dumb

make it even 100

[cunning mesa]

🤢

[sleek pewter]

my OCD can't handle that

[cunning mesa]

Just don't look at tank 103

🤣🤣🤣

[sleek pewter]

😂

[jovial grotto]

,,🤩

[mental silo]

😆

[floral crow]

Alright guys it’s been a lil while since I’ve been here

Been busy

New navy hero = 🗑 right?

And how about the new HT how is that working into the rest… just defense HT for your main march or something?

[thick elbow]

Probably

Synergies with asuka

[floral crow]

New chipset = navy only rn right

Or wait I forgot what it even is

Yea navy only until HA on other branches or sum

[midnight plover]

I just got scammed by topwar lol 🤣

I didn't receive the two daily blue cards

[mystic elm]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[midnight plover]

and they remove 4 purple cards that I already had before the bug lol

[rich turret]

I was have 5

I can't find them

Why they did that ?!

[midnight plover]

they just scammed everyone 🤣 good game

[rich turret]

TW logic GG

[midnight plover]

they will give 50 gems don't worry

[shadow glen]

50 gems ? That’s too much

We getting gold boys

[pallid birch]

you get no reward

tbh i dont even remember what i got from those 10 cards so this effects me 0%

[fallow herald]

Yes because that is much more logical

[stone marsh]

Would asuka gipsy shinji be better than crimson layla strom for navy?

[steady gorge]

Hola

[sudden hound]

😰

[still crown]

Why is this even possible

Yay purple equip that’s worse than a 2 stat green

[echo swift]

Yea Ultimate Form pairs good with Asuka have it with Asuka March Defensively probably

[pallid birch]

talk to me after you get 4 of those in a row

[pine forge]

To force lots of money spending to get anything good

[stray copper]

🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️❔❔❔question time

If i get the same base effect twicw

What happens???

[chrome stirrup]

gems

[dense wind]

extra gems

[glacial nacelle]

What event is this?

[fallow herald]

Maybe Top Trial? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[languid ether]

Good game

[chrome stirrup]

it’s a new server event

arms race but better rewards

[slow pagoda]

All purple cards are taken 🤔

[somber venture]

same, everything i had before reset too

[rotund dove]

How do you say "class-action lawsuit" in Chinese?

[eager thistle]

Since new world had some upgrade why this thing never opens?

[trim cipher]

[frail plaza]

These don't generate money for devs, so they coming soon™™™™™™™™™

[simple wadi]

Yes. Crimson is better

[rotund dove]

Been coming soon for as long as many of us have been playing. Fully expect them to just make the clouds disappear with an update like they never had anything there to begin with. Kinda like how we were supposed to be able to attack alliance fortresses.

[thick elbow]

1-5 is serious business

[sudden hound]

Both TC sign ups are 35? So 70 total?

[fallow herald]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[fallow herald]

My guess is that some things in the game will never be upgraded especially if it doesn’t make them money.

[stray copper]

How many

10k?

Tell me in watermelons

[chrome stirrup]

probably 1k

[slow epoch]

Not terrible.

[stray copper]

Rookie chip

[slow epoch]

I’ll probably grind it up and reforge it into something worse 🤣

[stark cedar]

Have you ever wondered why we get new heros and other stuff that we never really wanted but costs us? Yep, I'll let you figure out how to answer your own question

[quasi field]

Where we thinking this new chip set goes? like it does not seem to suck... but maybe it really does?

[tranquil frost]

Pretty sure it goes on the HTs

[quasi field]

so.... not trash?

[stray copper]

Any f2p who reached 250 march

I saw 200 before

[lavish mural]

F2P 200 march. He play since how long ?

[open flume]

Did they fix the bug? I heard that the one who enuse the bug can keep their HT chip, is that truth?

[open flume]

I told about the case they already clear the stage and got the ht chip as rewards

This, did they also back up them?

[fallow herald]

The game has been out for about four years now so it’s possible

[stray copper]

Below vip10 is ftp by the way😂

[fallow herald]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[dusky sentinel]

They reverted my 10 purple cards,. But im all innocent . 😭😭😭

[fallow herald]

Probably should’ve stopped at “all in” 😂

[hexed elm]

this shouldnt even be a question, unless you think the f stands for finance 😂

[sudden hound]

Please answer this everyone 😇

[chrome stirrup]

no

[sudden hound]

Switching class will work by itself then?

[chrome stirrup]

it just switches

[sudden hound]

And keep same progress?

Without items

?

[chrome stirrup]

you’re ducking yourself over if you reset before

[sudden hound]

Ty!!

[gleaming elk]

Hola

[native jolt]

😑😑😑

[frail plaza]

[native jolt]

I blame foxie

[lavish roost]

Hola

[frail plaza]

Suffer my luck

[orchid copper]

Lol, it's still better

[floral fossil]

Is Ghost worth spending 100 lunar voucher for ?

[orchid copper]

Look at my cursed chip

[floral fossil]

Im mainly using Diana and Alex for army heroes currently

[native jolt]

Like for dfs?

[floral fossil]

Wad dat mean D:

Dark Force ????

[native jolt]

Ya

[floral fossil]

Ye

For wrecking npcs on world map overall

[native jolt]

Hey its a xyston so much better ong

[orchid copper]

Garbage means garbage

[native jolt]

Ion think so i have ghost but i end up using diana bob and amalia most of the time still

[native jolt]

Buy more 🔥🔥🔥

[orchid copper]

It belongs as overclock food

[floral fossil]

Aight thanks for the advice

Gonna hoard the voucher for sth else then

[native jolt]

Wait what event is lunar ion see it

[floral fossil]

The lunar chest ?

Lunar treasure i mean

[dry belfry]

Lorca brother now 2216

[floral fossil]

Do daily quests to get tokens, then you spend them to open treasure chests that will respawn every 3-4 hours

[pallid birch]

they're the same person

[dry belfry]

Any idea where is NVM go?

[pallid birch]

still in 591

[austere sphinx]

I hear they looking at 1668 but just rumors

😂

[native jolt]

:00 which one can u ss

[austere sphinx]

Anyone finish the new HT

[dry belfry]

Nope

Maybe loki was NVM... He changed his name.

[pale kernel]

Loki is nvm

[dry belfry]

Ahh

Only Lorca brother moving

[native jolt]

No loki is garuda

Shes lying

[dry belfry]

Who is that?

[stark cedar]

most of their top 10s are 591, I recognized their names and "alliases"

😂😂

[pallid birch]

lorca is no longer playing

[dry belfry]

That's I know already

[native jolt]

The goat

[dry belfry]

You mean 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 this?

[onyx basalt]

wait

energy cluster = disc?

so skin base shards becomes leveling up discs? wtf

i join svs and farm ruins and farm afk for skin base shards to get a base

and they give u leveling up doscs?

lets boicot guys. $500 maximum spending per day

[orchid copper]

First special effect

[onyx basalt]

debi is what

[orchid copper]

Debi is new term for atk debuff miku

Like aka's

[onyx basalt]

crimson huh

thats great

only one stack?

[orchid copper]

Yeah, kinda garbo for me cos I have no crimson

Sads

[onyx basalt]

new HT is out

[green zealot]

Is it better to do gold bp or finish purp for secondary unit in prep for encirclement

[green zealot]

Looks like wrecking ball from overwatch

[orchid copper]

It's not registeel lmao

But yes

Registeel with chainsaw

[orchid copper]

If you only have 1 march, probably do gold bp

[lean quartz]

They stole my lab access cards

[orchid copper]

But if you multi force, do secondary bp

[green zealot]

Tricky spot, army main with asuka. Have shinji Brady 4/5 but have 1100 gs

[tranquil frost]

You can always dismantle purple equipment of second force to make the gold. I’d keep making purples until you have enough for the gold

[native jolt]

Omg

Gimme yo luck

[green zealot]

That is fair the only 2 purp bp I don’t have are the Air Force ones I need 😂

Baking will be here soon enough

[frail plaza]

I think it's time

For me to upgrade Layla

[green zealot]

Oof this hurts to hear

[onyx basalt]

anyways

legit nothing to buy this week :3

which is good

gonna wait till the next $5+$1/day ex box

[dusky sentinel]

No

[crisp cliff]

Where can it be requested that servers don’t show as full for people trying to create alts… s1001 is no where near full but no new bases can be created there it says server is full but I assure you its not

[dense wind]

It was disabled on the first UD and was never activated again

[crisp cliff]

UD?

[onyx basalt]

what it means is

server popul;ation can only fall

no subs allowed

unless u get people to transfer. gg

[dusky sentinel]

Make escalation letter.

[onyx basalt]

i guess people screaming unfair

because thousands of players made account in 770

and help take over the capital for them

[frail plaza]

Let's escalate

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-falling-down-escalator-escalator-funny-meme-fail-gif-27104288

[dusky sentinel]

My deepsea is now 2hrs late,. Im kinda sad,...

[onyx basalt]

btw

i still prefer xyston

over the new chip

the new chip just want people to go navy and sink more money

[orchid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/escalator-fail-gif-10743387

[orchid copper]

Tbh I would just do secondary bp or just place all purple first

Then replace the purple with gold

[orchid copper]

I spent my luckiness for free academy mountain and then this, my luck is literally minus value now

[slow pagoda]

I lost 5 purple cards.. still it was worth bug 🤣

[kindred valley]

What is the best navy March now? Is this new hero excellent or just good…I would only get exclusive lvl 5 (not 7)

[stark cedar]

The best navy march is having an air that involves using Maximo

[keen willow]

Is new hero any good?

[stark cedar]

No

Do you have crimson already? If yes, no need for new hero

[gray root]

Where are you supposed to exchange the mysterious base skin shards as per the latest patch?

[orchid copper]

Not whalin

[orchid copper]

After today's maintenance

Soon

[keen willow]

Yeah I have crim already,

[hexed elm]

no navy is good, just horrible people who destroy my tanks🤣

[gray root]

Got it, guess I misread the date, lol

[frail plaza]

[drowsy warren]

what hero pairs the best with optimus and megatron?

for army

[stark cedar]

then dont worry about the new hero

[green zealot]

Maybe asuka…

[stark cedar]

they're all dead heros

[green zealot]

But yeah this ^

[drowsy warren]

if I had to.. what should I do

i am running kat opti and mega

i can replace only one rn

[green zealot]

Asuka is very good, miku could help woth the math of that pairing though

[drowsy warren]

i was thinking of bryn becuase atleast she will help in base def with that hp inc

[green zealot]

Asuka > bryn currently

[orchid copper]

Yeah, do asuka

I play mega max prime tho

Still able to kick vip9 arses

Easiest option later is update mega and prime's generation into the lastest version of mega and prime

Gipsy eureka

[green zealot]

By the time you save up more shards they may do a better attempt to replace gypsy or striker

[orchid copper]

That's true since new heroes are just carbon copies then add some extras

[green zealot]

Asuka being universal and great on Air Force puts her a step ahead of bryn

[pallid birch]

whalin to a high degree

[modest linden]

Any news about EL or UD?

[orchid copper]

Not whalin, whalin means like you

[modest linden]

@orchid copper all in

[dusky sentinel]

What to choose?

[slow pagoda]

Both are good

[dusky sentinel]

How bout this one?

[dusky sentinel]

2.05 dmg inc. Or 13ish atk?

[slow pagoda]

Hp bonus may be.

[green zealot]

Dmg. 1%dmg =~9%att

[zenith cedar]

They took my 4 lab access cards

[dusky sentinel]

How do you compute that?

[zenith cedar]

no logic, according to TW😂

[slow pagoda]

Mine 8

But I got 20 so ..it's fine

[cyan hornet]

👀

[zenith cedar]

I was,about to get a Yellow card, they took those 10 along with my 4 cards

[slow pagoda]

Open a ticket that you haven't received any extra ..may be they will give it back to you

Raise a ticket

[zenith cedar]

Already the ticket drop is very low

[slow pagoda]

Hahaha

I think discord also got now 🤔

[zenith cedar]

[onyx basalt]

uh

u dont need the exact points

using rule of thumb is easier

1 def = 15, 1 shield = 10-12, 1 atk = X hp

1 dmgdec = 5-6, 1 dmginc = 9

re-adjust based on ur own stats

[frail plaza]

Bruh, they have China server whale test

[onyx basalt]

but in the long term, the marginal relative value will converge to above

[frail plaza]

And it was literally Layla diff

[onyx basalt]

yes

its easy to see its an unfair test

basically

they didnt test until layla and normal attack is around the same

so the game was decided by other factors ourside cream/maple

if u wanna test heroes, do hundreds

[frail plaza]

And

[onyx basalt]

also, catalog the damage output and activation rates

[frail plaza]

Crimson was placed before Layla

[onyx basalt]

also, catalog the stats

in this case, tester is dumb

they forgot to equalise stats

they only test once

wrong hero comp and order

because of that, we should assume he tested 100 times, took the only time maple won to justify his purchase, and posted it

until proven otherwise

[frail plaza]

That, or the WeChat dev just cherry picked the best Maplelyn reports to make it sell lmao

[open flume]

@onyx basalt

Have you done the comparison between kat and asuka es0?

[onyx basalt]

kat is garb

=.='''

bro. dont compare <100% hero with >400% hero

kat kat kat < asuka

kat gives only what 20% hp 20% attack up?

[open flume]

🤣

[onyx basalt]

literally garbage tier

only there for swimsuit skin

[open flume]

Ya I Just wondering about the future of asuka honestly, the result atm is pretty good though. But I still dont get it what make her damge so high rn

If asuka es 0, why her damge so high comparing to kat

[thick elbow]

Pretty sure he’s talking about katusha the army hero not Katrina the navy hero

Lol

Silly miku

[open flume]

They can only compare in army, lol

[thick elbow]

Basically asuka is not 50% *6

[onyx basalt]

she has attakc up 40%

[thick elbow]

She’s 1.4*50%*6

[onyx basalt]

she also has 40% chance to deal 50% x 6

so she increases everyones damage AND deals 40% chance to deal 50% x 6

kat is only hp and atk buff

[thick elbow]

No

Kat is 88*5

Silly miku wrong kat

It helps to compare the right hero

[onyx basalt]

anyways yeah.

latest hero >>>>>>>>>>>>old hero

by a lot

[thick elbow]

Yep the power creep is big

[onyx basalt]

my biggest regret is 5 star ex0 bell

[open flume]

Ya due to passive skill

[onyx basalt]

just because bell > bellev and all-unit

now bell is absolute garbage tier

[wanton sigil]

Where is my 50 gems ?

[ancient ice]

[onyx basalt]

i know people like to say "replays beats maths"

but if u wanna do it, do it properly

ie: do 100 battles

[torpid snow]

[onyx basalt]

catalog in excel, the outcome of the battle in activation and damage

in excel

[open flume]

I know right. She used to be a reward in El🤣

[onyx basalt]

sum the 100 battles of total damage and average activation rate

DIVIDE each damage by the over-activation

THEN compare total damage output ASSUMING stats are exactly equal

[ancient ice]

100x 5 minutes , no thanks

[onyx basalt]

i mean

[ancient ice]

another 100x 15sec , no thanks

[onyx basalt]

if not u just use take bob and beat f2p gypsy asuka and say asuka worse hero ever

wihch is why i dont trust most replays here

they just do 100 battles, pick the worse to justify their $200 or $2000 and post here

[ancient ice]

@open flumeKatyusha and Asuka , whose skill trigger more often ? or equally trigger

[ancient ice]

100x5 vit or 100x arranging 2 acc on free arena , no thanks

[open flume]

I didnt notice it

I remember kat has around 30-35%

Also mega trigg rate higher than kat

But base on some of my reports

Asuka trigg crazy

[ancient ice]

Asuka has same trigger rate to Megatron EX L5

[open flume]

Ya need more test

See the damge megatron vs asuka

Even skill 0

[ancient ice]

imo , those Mega Gypsy Striker is already good , no need to place asuka among them

kinda like , this change give you no improvement

[open flume]

I think so. Even the test result is pretty good, but the specific magnetic and ignite skill make me worry about her destiny

[ancient ice]

asuka = good worldboss ranker ... I think just that

[open flume]

Thanks Miku

[onyx basalt]

i find crimson > asuka as a boss killer

but mega vs asuka im not sure

havent tested gypsy-mega-cream vs gypsy-cream-asuka

[ancient ice]

hard to gauge , as megatron atk buff is higher than asuka. albeit slightly

[onyx basalt]

i can maths it out gimme a sec

~_~'

oh. no onelive from office

lel

cant access excel

[ancient ice]

specific magnetic/ignite = waste reduction
there is few style that has high burn/magnetic dmg waste (apply on enemy but not doing actual dmg or be deleted due to overkill)

[open flume]

Its alright, we can wait🤣

[onyx basalt]

u dont need to rely on the extra burn/magnetic synergy

i assume its zero

she is still an insanely good hero

[ancient ice]

If you view asuka like this , she is an HP/atk buff hero whom has 6x50% dmg spread randomly

which is the newest skill trend of topwars hero creation.

[onyx basalt]

she is just really really good when u get surprise bonuses like with kum, babi

or max

where u immediately pop the burn and get a bonus

against boss which has ignite limits, u can increase ur total output by a lot

[ancient ice]

ideal is ... asuka trigger in between 3 maximo laser shots

[onyx basalt]

asuka is not as "no brainer brains off" as gypsy and eureka

but she is great

gypsy and eureka definies the absolute best of heroes, obsoleting heroes from all other unit types like layla, stromoy, mika, kotiya, arguably brady

asuka is there to be a decent replacement of babi/crim, and obsoletes all army hp heroes

[open flume]

Ya but the burn, you can only get it if your asuka skill 5 right?

[onyx basalt]

assume its 0

dont care about it

[open flume]

Ahh ok

[onyx basalt]

my asuka is ex0

but actually, im thinking of ex5 for the x1.10 boost

[ancient ice]

imo , I find lots of Hero that category as asuka.

• has HP buff below 50%
• has atk buff below 50%
• has random chance to trigger skill 2-6 shots which do dmg 150% - 300% in total

[onyx basalt]

asuka counters heavy armor, one off shields, its all -unit

every other hp hero has drawbacks except babi/crim to their unit type

[ancient ice]

asuka downside is ... her trigger rate is equal to Megatron
it's possible for first 8 attack not triggering at all

[onyx basalt]

40% trigger

is as good as it get -.-

and free 9 shots from the get go

mega is 25% activation without ex5

garbage

[ancient ice]

she's best when trigger xrossbow in between Burn/megnetic skill

[onyx basalt]

i never count burn/magnet as anything

its a bonus

every hero has a "bonus"

babi has "bonus against navy"

conditionals thats not worth counting as maths

[ancient ice]

when fighting , all choice remain are

1. send her to target
2. wait wait wait , until i see better opportunity.

[onyx basalt]

as far as i know

if its "a chance to deal 20% more damage"

its <1% of total damage output of a march

like kum "chance to burn"

so its not worth to be counted

[ancient ice]

[frail plaza]

@slow pagoda what your troop level

[burnt horizon]

Good morning all i have a question since you discussing heroes why Stryker better than shinji if he does less damage ?

[slow pagoda]

101 now

[frail plaza]

Lv103 vals?

[slow pagoda]

I got

[frail plaza]

I'm gonna upgrade Layla later

We test

I use lv101 vals

[slow pagoda]

Layla finally. Ohk

[ancient ice]

why ... indeed , why he worth another 620 gold shards still cloud my hazy judgement

[slow pagoda]

I use normal troops

[slow pagoda]

You gonna make new hero to 🤔

[burnt horizon]

I have them both with ex5 . But still I'm sure my damage less when i use Stryker . So why he is better

[frail plaza]

Striker has higher indestructible% and another layer of indestructible with "shared dmg" mechanics as long as back row is still alive

[open flume]

Sharing damge I think it is one of best mechanic in team fight

[frail plaza]

Much more defensive than shinji compensates the lack of firepower

[ancient ice]

mundane reasoning , Striker preserve front row unit life , allow them to benefit +100% more atk buff from gypsy longer.

[frail plaza]

Maplelyn isn't better than crimson lol

So I just gonna stick to crimson

[slow pagoda]

Hmmm

[frail plaza]

There's literally no one posting how good Maplelyn is

[ancient ice]

I think Maplelyn can be categorize as Mei ...

yup , that Mei (army heroine)

[slow pagoda]

Apart from whales no one would.sincr the upgrade is not big... so probably many skipped it.

[slow pagoda]

It's navy Mei 🤐

[frail plaza]

All I've seen is cherry picked Stromoy Layla Maplelyn winning against Stromoy Layla Crimson, and non conventional navies with no Layla

[burnt horizon]

Ok so i shouldn't count on it for things like wb and well . thank you all

[slow pagoda]

I think atleast 30 battles needed to test and confirm

[frail plaza]

And the in game Chinese channel also agrees that Crimson and Maplelyn is close, hence basically no improvement

Some whales upgraded Maplelyn and was like, regret

[slow pagoda]

Small upgrade doesn't matter now .. people got a bit smart now..

[ancient ice]

speaking of Light armor (official name of anti-normal attack shield)
which situation Navy ship can rely on light armor ?
Polik retaliation ? no
Barbie skill barrage ?
another ship normy attack ?

[slow pagoda]

Dev's want to change navy mechanis...now next hero either support maplelyn or there is different mechanis 🤣

[frail plaza]

Only normal attacks, and barbie trigger

[slow pagoda]

Same happening with air

And army to

[onyx basalt]

seriously

u already skipped layla for a year

just wait for abit

[frail plaza]

Yeah, Maplelyn gonna be in trash bin until Layla replacement

[onyx basalt]

use eureka in the mean time

[ancient ice]

2 charges of light armor , two of 40% atk spread could dispel them

[onyx basalt]

eureka has perma indes2

[slow pagoda]

They constantly trying to bring new mechanics..which forces people to make heros 5* if there is success

[onyx basalt]

layla only has indes 1

[ancient ice]

[onyx basalt]

no ketan

asuka = fine without ex5

u just have to....invest wisely

[slow pagoda]

I can't put asuka in place of layla

[onyx basalt]

eureka

[slow pagoda]

There no comparison

[onyx basalt]

actually

😮

layla vs asuka

gimme a sec

[ancient ice]

I'm happy using layla 1-star as speed runner.

so is Asuka

[onyx basalt]

WTF.

[slow pagoda]

I skipped it. Need 3 months then i will get striker or striker replacement.....so i will make a upgrade which will be better then striker

[onyx basalt]

WTFWTFWTFWTF

[slow pagoda]

You can't really compare...

[onyx basalt]

looool

even stripping -20% off crimson

[slow pagoda]

No. Actually battle. It's different

[onyx basalt]

ROFL

[ancient ice]

by actual using , even I find Layla better.

[onyx basalt]

basically

without layla, ur dmg dec 70%--->12%

but ur hp 67%^-->138%, and atk 102%-->137%

[slow pagoda]

You can't even go beyond round 2 without indestructible

[onyx basalt]

what

um

at lv 98

[ancient ice]

imo , layla has 40% chance to turn battle tide with her skill barrage. ontop of indestructible.

[onyx basalt]

i have many many replays >4 turns now

[slow pagoda]

Hp doesn't matter in front of Indestructible

[ancient ice]

40% you can bet.

[onyx basalt]

but ur right

layla 2T > asuka

but asuka > layla 3T or above

so it depends on ur stats

[slow pagoda]

There is no valid comparison... both got different work to do

[onyx basalt]

basically

layla has about 10% more "effective hp" during the indes turns

and 30% less effective hp during the non indes turns

so the relative power depends on how long the battle is

3 turns = +10%, +10%, -30%

so u lose

6 turns

[slow pagoda]

You air main right 🤔

[onyx basalt]

+10%, +10%< -30%, -30%, -30%, -30% = gg

[slow pagoda]

Layla better than asuka in navy march

[ancient ice]

my main are Tank and Airforce.

[slow pagoda]

Ohk

[ancient ice]

I always use layla as speed runner with no marchsize ,
she could swiftly win battle on Illuminati Passage, despite 51 unit size

[onyx basalt]

uh

speedrunner, i still use 914-aka

XD

[ancient ice]

already serve her purpose.

[onyx basalt]

anti-wfac

anti-afk small fish

[slow pagoda]

What you using in army and air 🤔

[onyx basalt]

whats gonna happen if i get 1 more exp....

game crash

Lv6

[slow pagoda]

Nothing

[onyx basalt]

or everything burns

[ancient ice]

@slow pagoda best speed runner Layla

[slow pagoda]

No Striker 🤔

Who's that pink hair girl 🤔

[ancient ice]

I choose not upgrading Striker.

pink hair psycho = Brunhilde

[slow pagoda]

Ohhh

[slow pagoda]

Ohkk

[frail plaza]

You share shinji in air and army

[ancient ice]

shinji can fly in the sky 😍

[slow pagoda]

I want some one to test glass cannon march..
Maximo asuka brady hitting same strength or higher strength under weakning with high atk spd 🙈

[dense wind]

You have him at ex7?

Because if not, you're losing strength without need

[ancient ice]

maximo brady kum already scrape

[dense wind]

Shinji without ex7 is... Terrible

[slow pagoda]

5 bro

[dense wind]

Yeah it's a waste

[ancient ice]

@dense wind EX5 , I no longer buy ex shards

[dense wind]

Shinji at ex5 barely does more damage than Katyusha

[dense wind]

Oh.. But strength wise they make a massive difference

And to be honest, i don't see Eureka being replaced anytime soon

His damage sharing and high damage output should last for a long time

Unless devs gets drunk and then decide to release Max30 every week

Which isn't going to happen.. So..

[onyx basalt]

yea

eureka is safe

shinji is killed by gypsy

layla is killed by gypsy and asuka

u can just swop it in and its an upgrade

since u deal waay more damage even on the indes turns

than the effective hp lost

eureka is a pure upgrade over shinji and layla in all ways especially after lv100cap

[dense wind]

tbh

[ancient ice]

@dense wind Eureka is fatal selection on Sanctity well rally.

well , I don't have spare 620 gs for him 😚😚😚

[dense wind]

The 2 rounds indes were the only good thing

Because Shinji alone is....

[onyx basalt]

eureka has indes2, back row hp +40%, lots of damage, and focus on row 2,3

its too strong

[dense wind]

Just Tywin 2.0

Like

[onyx basalt]

all eureka dont have.....is attakc up

[dense wind]

It is absolutely shitty

Shinji without exclusive does 75% × 3 damage

At round 1

Which is barely 65% of Katyusha's damage

[ancient ice]

I won't transfer Shinji perks to katyusha

[dense wind]

But tbh

If you can, raise Eureka, it is a lot better and will do some extra good stuff towards your marches

About the well sanctity, it is ending in less than 5 days

So don't worry about that

[stark cedar]

chips are retarded

[ancient ice]

3000/3000/300/300 weight class Katyusha could decimate my tank march.

Katy still has her place on 2nd or 3rd tank march on some whale out there

[dense wind]

That is because even whales aren't at take level

Of being able to fully upgrade over 18 heroes

And to be honest, Katyusha at his point enters on 4th marches or even completely gone from any

[stark cedar]

Takes katy is also lvl 10 I believe 🤣🤣🤣

[ancient ice]

ex L9

[dense wind]

Yup lvl 10

[ancient ice]

I forgot about her treasury all this time

[dense wind]

Katyusha with a 43.8% trigger rate

[slow pagoda]

Atleast you getting it.

[frail plaza]

Bad chips eventually turn into ruby chips so there are no useless chips anymore

[ancient ice]

how many darkforce kills needed ? for all 4

[frail plaza]

How many of those vouchers in 1 df?

I don't even remember

[ancient ice]

1.5 voucher on average

[frail plaza]

If on average 2, 150 x1 df each

[onyx basalt]

not worth it for shards

[ancient ice]

no leeching of alt's warhammer plz

[onyx basalt]

yeah as i said

not worht it for shards

prioritise the blue thing

core...is okay but u get 2 free a day so

[ancient ice]

blue thing 🤣

[frail plaza]

Cores and remould is what I take

And the 3 formation box, and the 30 orange box

[pine vigil]

Overclock 2-3 times is the only way to get good chip.. unless you are super lucky..

[ancient ice]

200 df ( 20 vit capsules) for 3 gold shards

agree, it's outlandish

[orchid copper]

bring back recycling

[ancient ice]

Boobby trap spot

[onyx basalt]

actually

$20 for a random useles gold chip

is about...fair value

this assumes 64 x 20 gives you 40 def

$1280 = 600 stats

lel

$100 gives 2 march (44) so $1280 for 600 is aboutbokay

~_~'

[steep eagle]

A little help, - I want two strong Marches, (relatively strong) Navy & Army. How should I divide my prospective heroes? I have Crimson, Layla, Gypsy, Mega, Striker, Nemo all 5* and with es5. I can get Asuka / Shinji, I got both on 3*.

[onyx basalt]

lol

striker-asuka-gypsy

layla-crim-nemo

[wanton sigil]

Crimson+ layla + ?

Gypsy+ striker + ?

[onyx basalt]

shinji-mega-whatever

to kill afk

[steep eagle]

I was hoping new navy hero to give clarity or some boost to marches. 😔

[onyx basalt]

Approximately 650

[reef peak]

i forget what is "resistance" effect

[onyx basalt]

Nearly 700

[wanton sigil]

New hero is cool for people who didn't had crimson in past

[crystal spear]

[frail plaza]

Army: Gypsy Asuka Striker
Navy: Nemo Layla Crimson

[onyx basalt]

the new hero is

crimson in the first two turns

then lategame it becomes bob

crimson on the other hand is crimson in the first two turns

and becomes mega crimson late game

so people posting two turn replays, will show new hero > crimson

people posting 20 turn replays, bob > new hero

[wanton sigil]

People burning 70%+ enemy units in 2 turns

Enjoy 😊

[onyx basalt]

when i say stronger, its about 2-4% stronger

Vit 2.1 k

[young oar]

Stupid question before I once again rage request in features, have we EVER had a preferred event times poll from TW?

[onyx basalt]

another thing to note is that maple forces you to use layla-stromoy both of which i believe are...obsoleted heroes :3

to eureka-gypsy

dead stuffs dont need debuff

[reef peak]

there are many event polls, many opinion in survey,... and yes, devs do read Feature request, there have been already some requests were made into game, some are still being worked on

[frail plaza]

[quiet bone]

What would be the best third hero for people who already have Layla5 and Stormy5 ?
Crimson5 or Mapl5

[reef peak]

we can't see the whole picture, they're trying their best everyday, you can trust me

[onyx basalt]

crimson =.=

[wanton sigil]

No they didn't do it

[young oar]

I understand jelly and appreciate your hard work. My question stems from the TC event time changes. Was there ever a poll for event times?

[onyx basalt]

Vit 2.1k with diana 3.5k without diana

[steady narwhal]

As expected … and not even compensation for closing

[crystal spear]

I think crimson is better

[reef peak]

i belive there wasn't a poll for it, i'm asking about TC's event time too

but as an exeperience player

[austere orbit]

Take this

[quiet bone]

What's the point of new hero when old Hero is still performing better?🧐

[reef peak]

i can guess that there are many battle with too unactive alliance players

[austere orbit]

[reef peak]

they have to shorten the time schedule , to have more players join in 1 battle ?

all i can is guessing

not a confirmation, not a final answer

[crystal spear]

It make sense, it tell clients that their products is not every new is overall good

[reef peak]

for me , i have been through 2 TC, with only 8-12 players, from all 4 sides

[young oar]

Respectfully, I do trust this is ongoing and I’m part of the problem. 😬 I do think some type of data scan for most active times would be beneficial, if possible.

[summer night]

cRISMON 2100

[frail plaza]

Setting up for next navy hero

New trend

[quiet bone]

1. Layla5 Stormy5 Crim5

2. Layla5 Stormy5 Mapl5

1 or 2

@onyx basalt

[crystal spear]

Yeah this is true

[still crown]

So can I open all my heavy trooper chests now? It contains new ht pieces and new chip?

[quiet bone]

Someone tell new hero is better 😅

[crystal spear]

Setting up for next navy hero. New trend

[native jolt]

Do it do it

[frail plaza]

They perform roughly the same

[frail niche]

[summer night]

1

[crystal spear]

[native jolt]

2 cuz mapl is hot

Ugly ah crim

[crystal spear]

New hero is better than my Nereid

[dense wind]

Honestly, due to Layla imminent probable replace, it is risky to say

[quiet bone]

Anything is better than Neried 😂

[frail plaza]

3 cuz Ben Max Nimitz is better

[dense wind]

Although, if you have Stromoy giving HA, then Maple would be better

[native jolt]

Ongg best march

[dense wind]

Just for the sole case of Stromoy giving DMG Inc% because of the LA

[native jolt]

Ben any march is op

[quiet bone]

So maybe Mapl would be better for the next new Navy Hero?🤔

[dense wind]

Probably, but we don't know that..

[native jolt]

Reminds me, i forgot to share these to cookiee

[pallid birch]

i opened top war and got kicked out 5 seconds latet because of maintenance

[native jolt]

Op

[dense wind]

tbh

Mega was the problem

[quiet bone]

Ben on Air ??😂😂

[dusky sentinel]

No 50♦️

[dense wind]

With Gipsy story would have been a lot different

[native jolt]

The problem was fighting ben 🔥🔥

[native jolt]

Haha yeah its fun

[steady narwhal]

TW is cheating US every day … one day in year when we get chance to cheat them on their own fault they rollback ….

[crystal spear]

Hey guys, Yuu and Layla without lv5 skill which is better

[dense wind]

Which kinda makes sense the rollback

Because it's not a small fault

[dense wind]

If they don't roll back, there would be people with 350 gold chips more

Wait no

450

[crystal spear]

Yuu level 4skill, Layla level 3 skill

[dense wind]

Don't invest yet

[quiet bone]

Maybe Layla.. paired with???

[dense wind]

Layla replacement should come on next navy hero

So save ex shards for now

[frail niche]

why is this shit so big

[steady narwhal]

This is luck .. as everything in game

[summer night]

its defesnive

[dense wind]

Not luck when it is something exploitable

[pallid birch]

new skins coming at reset?

[frail niche]

🤷‍♂️

[dense wind]

And the rollback is justified completely

Now

[frail niche]

i got warhammer vibe from it

[quiet bone]

Someone made this in memes 😂😂

[dense wind]

They need to give compensation? yes

[crystal spear]

Fat Crimson

[frail niche]

ew

[young oar]

Devs found out that Izzy hates spiders and put one in game. 😢

[dense wind]

It was their fault and they need to compensate the user issues this made, including the temporal closing of Into the Unknown

[steady narwhal]

They give a shot on us .. perhaps 50 gems

[dense wind]

But the rollback is definitely justified and was a must

[frail niche]

🤮 they insane

[quiet bone]

Damn.. now we know how they got this design idea 😂

[frail plaza]

They love ugly designs

[pallid birch]

so no skins at reset

[steady narwhal]

They should give everyone at least 20 cards

[frail niche]

i havent even finished the white ht yet 🤣

[dense wind]

Neither

5 is fine

Or maybe 10

But 20 is roughly almost 1 month of Into the Unknown

[frail niche]

🤮 top tier design

[quiet bone]

One good thing is that the new units at level 100,101,102,... have new designs

[dense wind]

And with 10 you can get a gold chip anyways

[steady narwhal]

20 is also nothing for them .. 10-15 days collecting

[summer night]

15 days

[dense wind]

Each card is 50%

[native jolt]

Lmao did they change tc times

[young oar]

Rollback everyone and give 50 purple cards, because their look isn’t good right now.

[dense wind]

So on average it should be 1 per day

Which means 20 days

Some may get it 15 days or 25

[loud gulch]

Topwar needs to update the translation lol

For terrors

[young oar]

They don’t realize the player support they could achieve with just a few gifts. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[steady narwhal]

They will give zero cards … perhaps 50 gems … it’s greedy company

[loud gulch]

This is someone asking how to do terrors

[loud gulch]

But look at the translation

[frail plaza]

We want the lv102 submarine on lv101

[dense wind]

Without context that sounds

[frail plaza]

The other ships looks meh

Navy nowadays we submarine anyway