📱│game-discussion

[raw ore]

Is the new hero good

[zenith cedar]

I'm using these guys

[fallow herald]

The new hero is good if you don’t have Crimson. Otherwise you don’t need it

[zenith cedar]

Testing

[fallow herald]

It doesn’t replace Layla and it’s not better than Crimson

[zenith cedar]

Yes

[fallow herald]

https://youtu.be/AH6msWzsJ1I

You can use this as a reference to make your own determination if you want

[zenith cedar]

Someother day, they'll make a new meta formation

[fallow herald]

It’s always changing and never ending

[frail wraith]

How any video on it or any explanation

[zenith cedar]

[fallow herald]

I haven’t become a game expert, so I can’t break it down to you in technical terms. I don’t have any videos on it I’ve just seen other players discuss it in the past.

I remember them saying that you want your strongest hero first your weaker/defense hero in the middle and then whatever your third is going to be.

[bitter bobcat]

It’s primarily relevant for heroes with direct synergies like Layla/crimson

Where one heroes trigger increases the output of another’s

[fallow herald]

Which would be the technical terms that I don’t know lol

[bright orbit]

you're talking hero order?

[fallow herald]

Yes

[bright orbit]

if so then you're completely off

it only had to do with syngergy and tigger order in the first round

because even a bad order corrects itself past round 1

like you wanna give crimson most dmg potential

so you put heroes infront of him that cause effects and debuffs

so he's always last

just as an example

[barren falcon]

yes that is perfect example copium, with crimson

[bright orbit]

heroes with vulnerable you always place 1st

[fallow herald]

Gotcha. I’m not up-to-date with all the synergy stuff. I’m just going off of what I’ve seen players talk about in the past.

[bright orbit]

because it amplifies all triggers that come after

[bright orbit]

rarely anyone is

[fallow herald]

OK, so going back to discussing the army set up he has Shinji Optimus and gypsy…..

[bright orbit]

I still see people with years "experience" and high vip mess this up constantly

it's embarassing

[frail niche]

[bright orbit]

but I don't mention it, I like them making mistakes xD

[frail niche]

I have never paid attention to this tbh

I put my prime first

he did nothing on first round

[fallow herald]

I haven’t paid much attention to it either until recently. Since I don’t play anymore I have spent more time in Discord trying to learn the technical part of the game so I can try to help others

[bitter bobcat]

I would not out shinji/prime in the same march.

[raw ore]

I think the new hero is better than crimpson

[bitter bobcat]

Primes shield is canceling out shinji in the second round

[bright orbit]

I know a lot about these technical things because It's a fundamental part of who I am as a gamer throughout the years, a tryhard nerd

[frail niche]

Ig I’m messing up my putting like this then

[fallow herald]

I don’t remember what Cromwell is but Optimus was his only defensive hero

[bright orbit]

yea thats not optimal, should place gypsy 1sts and asuka 2nd

[bitter bobcat]

Shinji is an indestructible hero

Like prime

[frail niche]

She gets significantly weaker when there’s no more additional shield (which means from round 2 and beyond her dmg doesn’t scale as high as round 1)

[bright orbit]

you can put asuka last

[frail niche]

Sure thing

[bright orbit]

in cases ur 2nd hero has a big trigger also

because asuka trigger does low dmg but a lot of instances of dmg

she can clean up after some big nukes

[frail niche]

It doesn’t change much for me copium

cuz round 1 prime does nothing

so my gip is the first proc always

[bright orbit]

yea

just will optimize ur vulnerability

for round 1

but

I think vulnerable from gypsy is applied at the start of the round anyways

regardless of his position

[bitter bobcat]

It is. You just want him to trigger first and take advantage of it

[bright orbit]

yeah

[bitter bobcat]

Prime doesn’t trigger first round so doesn’t matter in his march as long as gypsy is before asuka

[bright orbit]

yeah so his march is fine as is

but you always have to ask this question for your march and check replays

because you wanna kinda make sure ur dmg goes doesn't cross over the 100% hp

or as little as possible

[onyx basalt]

any long battles

go crimson

[bright orbit]

the excess dmg is just 0 dmg

[onyx basalt]

wanna kill afk? use maple

maple is like bob

u can use to kill afk for svs points

[frail niche]

Literally Cromwell lol

Throw her at weaker bases

[fallow herald]

Second March hero

[bright orbit]

this

[frail niche]

How u liking my new girl

Gold mine skill the best

[pulsar whale]

Are Val’s actually cheaper now with the tech upgrades?

[frail niche]

Yes

[bright orbit]

25%, yea

[fallow herald]

That whole tech set up reduces the cost of repair and the cost to make

[pulsar whale]

Hmm but a full base still going to be expensive.

[fallow herald]

It’s Valhallas lol

[bright orbit]

no doubt

[fallow herald]

They were never cheap to begin with

[pulsar whale]

[rugged bobcat]

Anyone know when do the towers leave the map?

[frail niche]

do u expect to have 2k vals with like 10 odin or smth

[bright orbit]

indefinite for now

[pulsar whale]

12 max

[fallow herald]

I think they’re permanent. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong

[frail niche]

Too much, they need to be cheaper

[pulsar whale]

Fax

[fallow herald]

If they aren’t permanent I know they will be here for an extended period of time only because a lot of people aren’t able to defeat them and gather the rewards

[frail niche]

Those towers are hard lol.

[fallow herald]

I was at 6-2 when I left lol

Was running gypsy prime mega with 183MS

[frail niche]

🐳

[fallow herald]

Negative

Took me three years to get that march size

[frail niche]

That’s still a respectable size

[fallow herald]

Lots of dismantling navy and Air Force skills to get that lol

Never spent money on March size

Except for decor and all of it is level one or two

[wanton sigil]

Did you guys found out

Why he left 591 crying behind

[fallow herald]

It was moved without his permission, they are working to fix it. That’s all we know

[wanton sigil]

I heard many from 591 crying yesterday ? Claiming his account was shared

[thorny spire]

how?

[wanton sigil]

Sharing is against TOS

Didn't anyone complain to Mods?

[fallow herald]

I’m not the TOS police so that’s beyond my paygrade

[thorny spire]

howd they get access to move without permisiion?

[thorny spire]

😂

[trim cipher]

What is tos?

[bright orbit]

pretty sure more than 50% of 70m+ accounts are shared, if not more

[fallow herald]

Terms of service

[thorny spire]

terms of service

or something

[trim cipher]

Ewwww

[thorny spire]

ikr

[wanton sigil]

So no sharing rules are only for 20m

Haha 😆

[thorny spire]

ohh

[bright orbit]

exactly

[thorny spire]

😭

[fallow herald]

VIP 16+ has special rules

[thorny spire]

im 25.7m

[thorny spire]

ahh, that makes sense

typical tw

[trim cipher]

Where?

[bright orbit]

no even lower vip, seen it happen long ago

[thorny spire]

everywhere

[craggy wraith]

when's svs going to come at s3300's?

[trim cipher]

@fallow herald you mean This?

[fallow herald]

It was sarcasm 😂

[bright orbit]

was only a vip 10, could share with mods watching

[thorny spire]

there is onyl 1 condition

be vip 16

💯

[bright orbit]

even though many complained about him

[wanton sigil]

Complete your #💎│terra-aurorae first

[trim cipher]

Its boring

[craggy wraith]

boring

[thorny spire]

its power

not borin

[wanton sigil]

Same is EL

[wanton sigil]

But i saw lot of 591 crying.. someone moved account lol 🤣

[thorny spire]

if im right, u get svs after 1st TA

[fallow herald]

Expensive power

[thorny spire]

yeah

but worth it ig

[wanton sigil]

But no one complaint that account sharing is against TOS

[fallow herald]

Not for me it’s not 😂

[thorny spire]

why will they

therye probaly top war fans

[bright orbit]

it will get fixed if its not done by the original owner, and the one who can proof ownership can start the revert process

[wanton sigil]

Then why they cry for account transfer lol 😆.. how is it even possible to transfer a account

[thorny spire]

unless you dont have a brain , you woldnt exactly chose to be top war fan

[thorny spire]

thats exactly my question

[wanton sigil]

So now we have two owners

[thorny spire]

wheres nvm account btw?

[fallow herald]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[wanton sigil]

One transfer person

One person claims to be owner

How are know who is original

Lol 😂

[bright orbit]

then its about who made the first purchases on the account and can prove identity

[thorny spire]

so wheres nvm?

now thats important

[fallow herald]

He retired. Why is that important

[wanton sigil]

Recovering losses from odinium sale

[thorny spire]

its is cause i asked

[wanton sigil]

It's funny though. But sad .. at same time

[thorny spire]

lol

[trim cipher]

Meh..

[bright orbit]

its incredibly common

just not for those giant accounts lol

[thorny spire]

yeah

[wanton sigil]

I like the idea. Just take whale account access n travel to your desired server n enjoy 🙂

[thorny spire]

ive seen quite a few of those cases

people getting messages like disputed account, cant login

[wanton sigil]

Everyone will notice obviously

[thorny spire]

which is weird

[bright orbit]

so I have no clue if support treats those massive 100m+ accounts different when the original owner dipped out long ago

[wanton sigil]

You can't skip your eye 👁️ from 130m+ account

[thorny spire]

facts

was it right for 2216 to let them in without veryfing if lorca is lorca?

just asking, no controversy

[wanton sigil]

Obviously

[bright orbit]

yes

[wanton sigil]

I would have accepted any 100m+

[thorny spire]

ook

[wanton sigil]

Without doubt lol 😜

[bright orbit]

not 2216 responsibility to verify ownership of an account lol

[thorny spire]

lol

[wanton sigil]

They have mods

591 mods

[bright orbit]

so?

[wanton sigil]

What they doing ?

Did they verify the claims

[bright orbit]

its 1 tranfer slot, im sure they don't give a shit either way

[thorny spire]

they probaly never noticed until someone told them

[bright orbit]

losing 1 tranfer slot to a bogus transfer is whatever

[thorny spire]

that lorca moved

[wanton sigil]

Better then old days.. 10m entering without permission

[bright orbit]

if Lorca moved legit to 2216, its good for then. If Lorca account was trolled, its still a funny meme

don't see a downside for 2216

[thorny spire]

tooo many people did that

thank you tw

[wanton sigil]

They are chilled

[frail plaza]

Mmm let it cook

[fallow herald]

TEAMS meeting. BbL

[bright orbit]

it's not their responsibility to do a ownership verification, that goes beyond. They would have to look into private info, bank statements and identification lol

[wanton sigil]

But why all drama comes from 591 since last 4/5 months

[wanton sigil]

Why would someone do this is just a game

N internet

[bright orbit]

exactly, so it's not 2216 fault or their responsibility

[frail plaza]

Why do you keep avoiding twz to bully new players?

Same reason

[wanton sigil]

I see many people devoting too much time in interviews.. which i personally find funny. But people enjoy

[frail plaza]

There are people who play for all kinds of reason

[trim cipher]

[wanton sigil]

But just going with the claims..

If someone says... It was done without his permission..
Which means he shared his account
Which means it's against TOS

[bright orbit]

yeah and that "violation" of TOS lies entirely with the supposed owner(s) of Lorca, and nobody else

[thorny spire]

so why are we discussing it?

[wanton sigil]

I understand many people maybe doing it.. .. n people do all sorts of crazy stuff.. but ..rules are rules

[frail plaza]

We need to cook faster

Hungry

[thorny spire]

ik

[frail plaza]

The drama need to be ready faster

[bright orbit]

yea mostly Western or international servers have these extensive interview processes to join their servers, like a whole topwar resume

[thorny spire]

but lets cook and put more spice

not put water on fire

lets pour some Kerosene

[wanton sigil]

Did we receive a threat someone will hack or do something again ? Yet ?

[bright orbit]

meanwhile korean and other native asian servers.... you wanna come? ok, how many?

[wanton sigil]

Yes

[thorny spire]

seriosuly

gimme an asian server

[wanton sigil]

Asian server.. it's just game chat.. they say yes or no..
N boom 💥 transfer done.

[thorny spire]

i want to flee

[bright orbit]

yep super chill and no issues

[thorny spire]

can i join 2798?

tell yes or no

pls

[wanton sigil]

Already booked for 3 slots lol 🤣

[thorny spire]

😭

tell yes please

[bright orbit]

The game has been so chilled since I play on Asian servers only for a year

[thorny spire]

ill join after 3 cycles

pls

[wanton sigil]

Less rules.. so it's all relaxed 😌

[wanton sigil]

If no UD. But I am no recruiter lol 😔

[bright orbit]

well no, there are rules, just much less drama and other stuff.

[thorny spire]

😭 no one wants me

[onyx basalt]

so we all going to 2216 or what?

[thorny spire]

yeah

[frail plaza]

You gotta ask where's their next destination, not 2798

[thorny spire]

or lets rob a bank

cmon

[wanton sigil]

I heard Baby is going ... Not sure if it's true 😜😜

[thorny spire]

but ill be stuck in champ season

[bright orbit]

2216 is a great server, but they do have an interview process because demand to join is very high.

[onyx basalt]

👀

[wanton sigil]

Danny I saw you

[thorny spire]

whyd u delet that

i saw it

[thorny spire]

this broke me

[onyx basalt]

🙃

[wanton sigil]

Danny joining all 🤣

[thorny spire]

stop deleting stuff

lets see

pls

[wanton sigil]

My friend with 45m got accepted.. so it's all depends on friends n group you going with 😄

[frail plaza]

It's just like real life

2 ways

Friend or power

[wanton sigil]

Maybe DM feet 🐾 pics to Chris 😁

[thorny spire]

or cp

[thorny spire]

lol

[bright orbit]

yeah I'm friendly with AC, played with Chris group on 1984

it was.. unfortunate what went on there, but was fun to play with AC.

[craggy wraith]

when's it going to start?

[frail plaza]

It's deleted

No more EL

[thorny spire]

wait for 4 months

or become vip 16

[wanton sigil]

After #💎│terra-aurorae x2 finishes

[thorny spire]

that way you can move out and rule the game

[craggy wraith]

huh

[thorny spire]

yep

[craggy wraith]

no thanks

[thorny spire]

then waiting it is

[craggy wraith]

kden

thanks

[thorny spire]

am i the only one waiting for turbines to die?

[bright orbit]

[thorny spire]

its such a dot

[frail plaza]

Yeah kinda

[thorny spire]

like literally

[bright orbit]

im kinda over it too

[thorny spire]

everytimme you login there a red dot

[frail plaza]

Less thing to do in game = more time to sleep

[bright orbit]

its like a month long deep sea

[wanton sigil]

I get so much material boxes. I want it to continue 😁😁

[thorny spire]

not what i mean

[thorny spire]

ok then break it for us pls

pls

youll be a dot saver

literally

[frail plaza]

You can break easier

You go break it

[thorny spire]

if i let it go to 1%

they recover it

its benefits of being "server leader"

im just that for namesake\

[mighty reef]

But bringing a lot Material boxes 😉

[thorny spire]

i dont want ti

it*

[frail plaza]

Yeah, but no blueprints

[paper temple]

new Navel Hero Maplyn is Useful with Nerid

[thorny spire]

nice

when ull donate?

5d left

[onyx basalt]

Donate all

[frail plaza]

Last day

[onyx basalt]

Collect material

[bright orbit]

Good wan

[paper temple]

Thanks

[thorny spire]

ok

[pale reef]

🆓

[thorny spire]

all in 4eva

🅰🅻🅻 🅸🅽

[pale reef]

Now chilling

Wait for EL

[thick elbow]

Imagine you forget

[bright orbit]

Halloween event when

[frail plaza]

spooky scary unit skins, for only vip16 cost, soon

[sick grail]

2798 wont have UD

you miss out on everything

[frail plaza]

[sick grail]

[wanton sigil]

Aah.. that would be sad.. but I think.. hopefully it would have after new zone creation

[sick grail]

new zones dont have any of them events thats why you dont server jump

[tidal wyvern]

So turbine buffs gunna be 25%?

As decor?

[wanton sigil]

Lvl 1

[frail plaza]

Free 25% that's a huge income loss for devs

[wanton sigil]

2% probably

[frail plaza]

So it's gonna be 2%

[tidal wyvern]

That makes more sense lol

[frail plaza]

And even that's a lot

[sick grail]

basicly waste of time logging in every 1 hr

[frail plaza]

The Eva DEF decor only 1%

[sick grail]

isnt it @wanton sigil

lol

[frail plaza]

2% is double

Devs crying at the income loss already

[onyx basalt]

guys

i just found out something crazy

😮

like, it has always been hard to value....max front row damage decrease 180%x1.21

apparently

its equal to around all-air units Shields + 50%

😮

[loud gulch]

So what does that mean about air? Explain like you are talking to a 5 year old

[onyx basalt]

basically

[frail plaza]

Maximo front row tanky

[loud gulch]

Ohhhhh I seee

[onyx basalt]

mathematically speaking, max front row dmg decrease 180% is about as good as all-air unit Shield + 50% for all stacks

its actually really good

[loud gulch]

So

Max is not replaced by barbie :)

[onyx basalt]

it doesnt protect ur mid, but it does...indirectly

[loud gulch]

My mid gets silenced anyways

[onyx basalt]

its easier to see max as "HP + 50%, and lots of damage"

[loud gulch]

🥲

[thick elbow]

im not sure i agree with that math haha

somthing is off

[onyx basalt]

babi: HP+65%, abit less damage

[loud gulch]

Don’t look at the math

He gave the 5 year old explanation

[onyx basalt]

x1.56 is the relative damage with and without max

[loud gulch]

It makes sense

Too much math!!!

[cerulean trout]

I run asuka max hazel 😏

[loud gulch]

Max = HP front yay

Barbie = HP front more yay

[pale reef]

Can draw out pls

[loud gulch]

Max = DMG goes more brrr

[pale reef]

[loud gulch]

Max = DMG goes brrr

Simple

[onyx basalt]

Im just simplifying the equation

[loud gulch]

My brain is 15% less hp

[onyx basalt]

if u look at max as a 7 stacks air shield + 50%, and damage output

its easier to compare with babi, asuka

since damage output = observable in replays

[loud gulch]

Ill be keeping my max 😎

[pale reef]

[loud gulch]

Butttt

Question

Isn’t max better with kum like in long term as the dmg buff is row 2 and 3

While Brady is row 1 and 2

Where barbie attacks

[sick grail]

bro i keep getting messaged by a scammer

and then he blocks me

[pale reef]

[sick grail]

😂

[loud gulch]

Like practically barbie should be better with Brady for where the dmg buff is

[onyx basalt]

kumbuff is normal atk right

[loud gulch]

Idk

[onyx basalt]

normal atk x 1.2

[loud gulch]

My kum is level 3

😵‍💫

[pale reef]

[onyx basalt]

i think what we need

is testers to go max-babi-kum

and go kill players and keep track of the replays

[loud gulch]

So

Donate gold shards and skill shards and I’ll do it

😁

I need kum skill and both shards

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[frail plaza]

Whale

Just get Brady ex5

Is latest

[onyx basalt]

actually

the point is

Max+HT+Kum seems tobe mathematically stronger

than brady babi

Of course, its theory. but max + HT has been broken for eons, and max got a 2x-3x damage boost due to lv100 cap

[dense wind]

#📜│patch-notes

[onyx basalt]

babi got nerfed by /1.8

[dense wind]

We can finally use the base skins shards

[thick elbow]

yeah the math is fundamentally flawed

[onyx basalt]

anyways im open with my maths

[thick elbow]

you need to multiply the matrixes before adding

[onyx basalt]

it does multiply

[thick elbow]

you can't average them then multiply lmao

[onyx basalt]

let me show u an example

[onyx basalt]

basically

[stray copper]

Looks like i have this event for another 6 years

[onyx basalt]

its matrix maths

[wanton oak]

Is there any reason to care about which order ur heroes go in or was that Debunked?

[onyx basalt]

every square hp is equivalent to the effective effect of eureka + max, times effective effect of units, times effective effect of shield

[dense wind]

Yup there is a reason, specially for navy

If you use Crimson, you want him to trigger after Layla, so her atk debuff can buff Crimson's damage

[steep eagle]

Striker then should go first ?

[dense wind]

On army you'd want heroes like Gipsy triggering first due to vuln effect

[wanton oak]

So say army , I got bryn striker gipsy , who should go first

Ah okay thanks

[dense wind]

Last

[dense wind]

On that case, Gipsy Striker Bryn

[steep eagle]

crim+gyp+striker ... I thought his shield gotta get released the first...

[onyx basalt]

crimson always after layla

[dense wind]

Oh you don't use Layla, ehm then Gipsy first

[onyx basalt]

thats all

[wanton oak]

So it’s about making sure a hero procs first

[dense wind]

Gipsy wins a lot more damage from vuln compared to Crimson

[onyx basalt]

if u use erureka-gypsy-crimson

u gonna win 100%-0% anyways

:3

and lose 0%-100% to take

so sometime....i dont bother. lel

btw. scramsax....

how does that work

xyton 30%, scamsax 35%? same multiplier?

[dense wind]

Problem about Scramsax is that it only works towards ignited targets

[wanton oak]

Sorry for another question, so a 3hm of crimson Layla stromoy should go -Layla-crimson-stromoy?

[dense wind]

With Asuka there won't be ignited targets to attack

[dense wind]

Yup

Layla triggers adding Atk Debuff -> Crimson Triggers, getting extra damage from Layla's atk debuff

It doesn't looks like, but this is around a 8% - 9% perfomance increase on navy

[haughty cipher]

[wanton oak]

Damn

[frail plaza]

Yes, as long as Layla is before Crimson

[wanton oak]

Okay thanks guys I will tell my whale 😂

[thick elbow]

50% hp is 16% better than front row max per my own calculations. this is taking the atk% times the hp% for each slot before taking a full march average

[frail plaza]

@dense wind so, where maplelyn reports

[thick elbow]

but the math is inherently flawed to begin with lol

idk why you're saying hp1.56 to start - kum should only be 1.39 at most

[dense wind]

Also that's what i'm waiting for

[frail plaza]

[bright orbit]

@onyx basalt No math, but what I hear from air is that max front row shield becomes less relavant with navy and army taking out the mid and back row effectively and pressure it. Not dissing your math but in actual combat I do think slowly but surely, a front line shield is losing it's effectiveness

[tired olive]

Good evening everyone

What’s everyone’s opinion on new hero get it or no ?

[hasty iris]

[frail plaza]

There aren't even people sharing battle reports of her

That's how good she is

[tired olive]

Lmfaooooo

[slow pagoda]

Whale can only share it 🤣

[frail plaza]

Or new players who didn't upgrade Crimson

[tired olive]

So it replaces crimson ?

[slow pagoda]

There are few in battle reports

[slow pagoda]

Not really

[frail plaza]

Yeah, the only logical choice

[tired olive]

So it’s a confusing hero is what it is

[frail plaza]

Can't remove Stromoy nor Layla, Maplelyn needs them

[slow pagoda]

Fox has it 5* with lvl.5 exclusive 5

[frail plaza]

No

[slow pagoda]

You did layla 6 🤔

[frail plaza]

I haven't

[slow pagoda]

Ohhk

[tired olive]

Didn’t miku already do some testing ?

[slow pagoda]

Miku has charts

[tired olive]

Only problem is what miku says makes me more confused sometimes tho 😂

[slow pagoda]

And miku is air. Miku hates navy 🤣

[slow pagoda]

It's happens with many 🤣

[tired olive]

I stopped bothering with navy when max came out 😂

[slow pagoda]

Then why bother now .

[frail plaza]

Maplelyn is about same as Crimson from the few info I can see, but she needs Stromoy ex5 for HA, needs Layla for indestructible, she hits like Saker but column, her idea of big splash dmg is about as accurate as a magicarp, because LA and HA is very inconsistent, hence less splash dmg buff

[slow pagoda]

Skip navy

[tired olive]

Cause I need something to protect my base

[slow pagoda]

Army and air are perfect

[tired olive]

But splash damage can be increased to 200% right ?

[tired olive]

And then what do I protect the ruin with 😂

[frail plaza]

That is, if you ex7 and has LA, HA and indestructible up

[slow pagoda]

Right now i feel air is best to keep in defense

[frail plaza]

And when she hits a column with dead units, it does no dmg

[tired olive]

What’s la and ha ?

[frail plaza]

Like I said, navy Saker

[frail plaza]

Light armor and Heavy armor

[slow pagoda]

Use two marches of air

[tired olive]

Oh yeah didn’t think this way

[frail plaza]

She needs those shield to increase splash dmg

[sonic root]

😩

[slow pagoda]

Two Marches of air are good now..

[tired olive]

Which two ?

[frail plaza]

Brady Striker Asuka and Max Kum Shinji lol

[tired olive]

And then army takes a loss dosent it ?

[steep eagle]

I am really in a crazy spot , I have Layla. I thinking of reinstating her, move Striker to Army, - Army has Mega. Third Army might be Asuka. - this might give me two marches. Navy as - Layla - Gypsy - Crimson , Army - Mega - Asuka - Striker.

[frail plaza]

Yeah, air mains do that, I guess

[slow pagoda]

You can rotate heros.

[frail plaza]

Ask Charwhale

[tired olive]

I use striker gypsy and asuka on army

[pale reef]

[still island]

guys

[stone marsh]

@frail plaza new people getting layla...what about you?lol

[frail plaza]

Shut

I am getting her

[stone marsh]

Sweet

[stone marsh]

Welcome home lol

[hardy fern]

So. based on this breakdown, MapleSyrup could be in a lineup of Crimson (for heavy armor) and Stirker (for indestructable) and that might be decent
Mabye possibly

[stone marsh]

New HT is today?

[dense wind]

Yup

Along with the exchange store for base skins shards

[frail plaza]

But then no ATK buff, that's equivalent to doing half dmg

[stone marsh]

For all servers or is it again for 1-1000 first?

[hardy fern]

I see what you're saying. Level 5 ES Stromoy for the Heavy Armor is needed. For those (like me) that don't have Layla but do have Striker then that an option.

[dense wind]

Patch note doesn't states servers, so should be all

[hardy fern]

I think the new HT is tomorrow. At least the Spoiler page says 10/13 at reset

[dense wind]

In 1 hour it will be 13th for China

It states 13th 00:00 Start Time (Server)

Right now it is 12th 23:02 for server time

It will come out today

We have gotten the update patch with the new stuff already ^

[frail plaza]

Then You should use Striker in place of Layla since maplelyn don't have synergy with ATK debuff, it's actually doesn't matter Layla or not, but it has to be Stromoy. Not only for the HA to buff slash dmg, but also the very basic need of ATK buff, just like how indestructible can't be given up, you cannot have no ATK buff

[dense wind]

About Layla and Eureka

How much damage Layla does at exclusive 7?

[hardy fern]

I keep forgettting the China part. Thanks

[frail plaza]

900%

[dense wind]

Eureka if i am not wrong does 230% × 4

Wait

Then Eureka is a lot better

Does sligthly more damage, has higher Indes and has the massive dmg share on front 2 rows

And adds hp Enhancement to last row

[frail plaza]

Layla ex7 is 110% x 1.34 x 6

[dense wind]

btw it's 80% instead

The extra missile damage from 5/7 isn't counted towards exclusive effect

So it would be (80 + WAR from CE and Decors) + 15/30 - Ex5/Ex7

[hardy isle]

How long after EL will new world event start?

[dense wind]

No idea, we will know once NW starts for 2800s and early 2900s

[thorny spire]

new ht today??

[dense wind]

Yup

[thorny spire]

yay

no yay

another cash grab

[hardy isle]

I'm from server 2925

And our EL is finishing soon

[thorny spire]

youll have new world

similar to old world, except more places to spend 💰

and lvl 100, ofc

biggest cash grab\

[hardy isle]

Yes but I wanted to know how long after EL will the new world event start? 🤣because I don't know what I need to prepare

[thorny spire]

no need of preparations

prep your bank account

[thorny spire]

not sure exactly when it starts

[orchid copper]

What the heck is preparations?

Just do all in

[thorny spire]

ikr

just keep bank acocunt ready

[orchid copper]

You think playing svs need preparations?

No

Just send 5 mega whales

[thorny spire]

or be vip16]

[orchid copper]

Just do all in bbq

[thorny spire]

and go all in

[hardy isle]

I'm still new to top war so can url please explain what url mean by whales?

[orchid copper]

Tw is so simple so no need to overthink stuffs

[thorny spire]

it was a joke

whales are powerful people

with cp 69m+

[hardy isle]

Ok🤣

[wanton sigil]

People you buy stuff via money in game

[hardy isle]

Ok I understand now thank you

[dry belfry]

@wanton sigil

[thorny spire]

vergil?

silent dude

[dry belfry]

Where to exchange Base skin thing?

[orchid copper]

No leaks with the base skin shards?

[thorny spire]

no one knows

[thorny spire]

there is 1 leak

[dry belfry]

They added for what?

[thorny spire]

the greatest leak

[sick grail]

tmrw

[thorny spire]

no one knows

[thorny spire]

??

i only have 34

😭

[hardy fern]

Whales are people that spend absurd amounts of money on this game.
Some are spending up to $1k a week buying every single pack they can/ Every/. Single. Day
Whales are the players that remind you that even in a game, C.R.E.A.M

[orchid copper]

Devs just discovered how to push stuffs on last days?

[dry belfry]

I have 50

[thorny spire]

😭

[sick grail]

tomoroow it comes out where you can exchange

[thorny spire]

😭

[sick grail]

#📜│patch-notes

[hardy isle]

👀yoh I just spend on like the big events package which for me it's about R400

[thorny spire]

it was right there

i am so dub

dumb

[hardy isle]

I'm not sure what that would be in dollars

[thorny spire]

[New] Mysterious Base Skin Shards are now available for exchange. Existing items are replaced with Energy Conductor or Energy Cluster while maintaining quantity.

[thorny spire]

what do you mean by R???

[versed stag]

Miku says new hero is garbage

[thorny spire]

its true

[hardy isle]

R = South African Rands

[sick grail]

53 cent

that aint big pack

😂

[thorny spire]

ohh

[sick grail]

wait nvm

that R1 is 53 cent

21.13$ = R400

[hardy isle]

Yes

[tired olive]

Thanks bro

[versed stag]

I think this is the first time we got very less reports for this hero compared to any other hero after tw started meta hero introduction

[frail niche]

🤨

[hardy isle]

Are they any good servers to join because I'm looking for a server that values teamwork

[frail niche]

yes, what lv are u

and which zone are u in? (1 2 3 4 5) ?

[hardy isle]

Level 80
Server 2925

[versed stag]

It depends on your strength and how active you are

[sick grail]

you cant transfer yet in the 2900s

[hardy isle]

I'm active everyday on top war and I got a lot of free time so I can manage to be active when I need to be on top war

[sick grail]

i have an acc in the 2900s

not possible to transfer

[hardy isle]

Yes I'm aware

[loud gulch]

2897 best server

🤭

[sick grail]

naj

[hardy isle]

Because the server that I'm in is new from what I have been told

[loud gulch]

Yes yes

Best ever ever

[sick grail]

its like 4-5months old

[loud gulch]

👁️👁️

[hardy isle]

From what I was told the server needs to be 120 days or something old in order for me to go to another server

[sick grail]

240

[loud gulch]

Needs to have completed new world no?

[sick grail]

was changed

[tender pendant]

Put a request in #🔍│take-me ☺️

[hardy isle]

In May 2023 the server was made from what I know

[sick grail]

yes ik

[frail niche]

👁️

[sick grail]

you can transfer till 240 days old and done with new world

[coarse tiger]

Is that for all servers?

[sick grail]

yes

[loud gulch]

Up to like 2817 rn

Or a little more I can’t remember what we are up to now to transfer to lol

[sick grail]

transfers arnt diffrent for each server 🫣

[hardy isle]

Working as a team mainly when it comes to facing other servers

[coarse tiger]

Oh great, so I have to suffer on a dead server for 120 days longer than I thought. That'll keep me playing.....

[sick grail]

what server u in currently?

[coarse tiger]

3169

[bright orbit]

ur server dead already after 120 days?

[sick grail]

ohh damnn you got a long way to go

[hardy isle]

No unfortunately my server has some major problems when it comes to uniting for big events like TA or EL

[frail niche]

dead servers are gud, free shits

[sick grail]

why do you need to know

[wanton sigil]

Do you co-operate ? Or expect only others to listen to you ?

[tired olive]

Get some popstars30day ones

[loud gulch]

Free popstar

[frail niche]

u could enjoy 4 months of absolutely dominance and then transfer to some more active ones

[loud gulch]

Free capital

[frail niche]

^^

[loud gulch]

Free silos

[sick grail]

only if strong

[wanton sigil]

No towers.

[loud gulch]

True

[wanton sigil]

No luminous

[frail niche]

hey he said it was dead, so i assume that he's the only one left

💤

[loud gulch]

🫣

[frail niche]

as if luminouses are still around for long

[bright orbit]

You had me at towers

[loud gulch]

Just make alt accounts by then 🤣

[frail plaza]

Many young servers suffer from ego, civil wars, cold wars, some people get lucky and their og server grows in a whale server, some new people don't know about that 😂

[loud gulch]

In your own server

To make enough people

Simple

[frail niche]

👁️

[wanton sigil]

No gems for popstar.. mainly someone random will mess up always

[frail plaza]

Old players don't know new players pain, remember that

[loud gulch]

Someone always wants popstar

[sick grail]

very rare unless the whale stays

[loud gulch]

And donates 20k gems

Last second

KEKW

[frail niche]

who cares, 3k for a 30d pop star is still cheap as hell

[onyx basalt]

Which central chip would you use?

[wanton sigil]

Only benifits of dead server is top svs rank and capital gifts .

[versed stag]

Left

[frail plaza]

Xyston if Max and Asuka, Rondel if Barbie

[onyx basalt]

Asuka is there

[versed stag]

What's the difference with the hero and chip ?

[bright orbit]

have you heard about the Asuka secret tech?

[onyx basalt]

No

[hardy isle]

Let's just say that the leader in my server is behaving like someone who wants only his alliance to succeed and doesn't really show much care about the other alliances

And now when we are still in EL he is not doing anything to help which makes things difficult and people from his own alliance are trying to help but they also say that they need the leaders permission and the leader doesn't communicate much with any of us

[bright orbit]

Asuka deez nuts!

[frail niche]

😂 pop star, top svs/odi, cap, daily top1 on arms race, wz, etc etc etc

just list it garuda

[wanton sigil]

Everyone wants their own alliance to succeed for first 3/4 months of this game.

[frail niche]

u rly have to pull that joke 🤣

[hardy isle]

There is more but it's alot of typing to do🤣

[frail plaza]

Rondel increases normal attack of HT, and works best with red HT and barbie

That the only reason

[onyx basalt]

Thanks

[wanton sigil]

Just join the first alliance and play as a team. Better than regretting later.

[hardy isle]

I did what ever I could to help but my help is getting ignored

[frail niche]

that's rare

[frail niche]

congrats youre in a wrong server, better make a new account and start over then 💤

[versed stag]

I believe when it involves def whatever it is unless another def, its always def chip should be used

[frail niche]

trust, the game is much more enjoyable if u dont get messy w those politics shits from people with huge ass egos

[wanton sigil]

It's a useless fight to power . And later we all realising.. capital wasn't even worth it

[hardy isle]

The 1st alliance is the server leaders alliance 🤣

[wanton sigil]

Join them n enjoy

What's stopping you

[frail plaza]

Xyston is a direct 1.6x dmg against stacks with over 60% remaining troops

[hardy isle]

Like I said that's the server leaders alliance where the problem is🤣

[frail niche]

@hardy isle

[versed stag]

Yup, true. Xyston works well most of the cases unless your opponent has less hp after 1 turn.

[wanton sigil]

2925 right ?

[hardy isle]

True that's actually what I'm doing now

[hardy isle]

Yes

[hardy isle]

But there is a discussion with the other alliances in my server who want to fix the issue so I'll wait and see

[hardy isle]

I'm ranked 82🤣

[wanton sigil]

Cool enjoy.. play till you like it

[hardy isle]

Will do

[bright orbit]

play till you like it? don't you mean hate? because if he stop when he like and then leave...

[wanton sigil]

Hahah 😂

Can always switch servers

[bright orbit]

[hardy isle]

True but I have to wait until I'm allowed to transfer to another server 🤣

[wanton sigil]

This is long game. There is no rush

Just play at your pace

Every upgrade will take days weeks months years.. .. so enjoy with time

Tips and tricks --- #🎯│game-strategy

[tired goblet]

benefits of a dead server is... almost 100k gems per month, buy assault formation and mastery research everyday from svs store, have all the gs and first place prizes in events (baker and flippy cards). You only have to worry about spending on decorations. because you will have enough gs to raise each new hero to 5*

Plus gold equipment faster

you have more fun and you don't just watch the super whales fight and you just attack rss and you only talk about your whales fights in the chat

[wanton sigil]

100k gems is a myth in dead Server

Svs store -- agreed. But you need to perform better

Again events you mentioned.. you still need to work a little harder..
Baker - need vits n killing boring dfs
Floppy - need gems
Raising each hero 5* as f2p.. dream 😅
Vip 10+ needed to do every month or so.

[tired goblet]

No is not a myth

Im in a dead server

[wanton sigil]

Which server ?

[tired goblet]

1583

[wanton sigil]

You are capital leader.. 😅

You wil give gifts to yourself.. possible for you only then

[tired goblet]

Buying monthly and weekly packs you get almost 100k gems per month

Yes is very dead

Everything is for me

😅

Probably 10 more players (f2p)

[wanton sigil]

You are minimum vip 12 +

Whale 🐳

[tired goblet]

Im vip 14

[loud gulch]

Guess mine 🫣

I have no secreenshots

Nevermind

🫣

[wanton sigil]

You said vip 10+ 🤔 now 11

Going for 16

[loud gulch]

Still 10 🥲

[wanton sigil]

[loud gulch]

12

GOING FOR 12

[tired goblet]

I have saved more on a dead server, a whale server encourages you to spend more because you don't want to be left behind 😅

[wanton sigil]

Yes it's a additional rush

[tired goblet]

and now matchmaking is more balanced on dead servers

[sick grail]

Well you can get atleast 40k a month easy

[wanton sigil]

That's a good thing

Seen many matchups

It's getting better

[tired goblet]

Yes

You can have more fun

[sick grail]

As through arms race and wz that's a lot of gems

As you can get too 5 easy

[loud gulch]

That is true

[sick grail]

Top*

[loud gulch]

I like being strong

And showing my whale my progress

And him saying he lost 10k in a week

And didn’t care

[tired goblet]

Yes, it calls our ego 🤣

[loud gulch]

😢

[slow pagoda]

16

[loud gulch]

12

[slow pagoda]

16

[loud gulch]

I’ll go for 16 once my whale gets bored on his account and wants to spend on mine

[loud gulch]

12

[sick grail]

Creepy probably get 1st in arms race and wz every day

[slow pagoda]

That would be vip 20++++ then

[loud gulch]

🤣

[sick grail]

Thats 8k a week in gems just from 2 events

[slow pagoda]

Storm.will make it 16

[loud gulch]

I’ll be added to the magic WhatsApp group chat

For whales

[sick grail]

Nothing including TC/svs

So like probably min 40k gems f2p

For a decent acc

In a month

[slow pagoda]

10k dollars 🤔

[loud gulch]

Yeah

🤣

[tired goblet]

just check out the UD event, only real whales could have fun. ones that is a low/regular spenders is only going to crash against walls. A whale server is of no good if you are not a whale. only for EL prizes, or other server events, and gems when there are events and whales spend

[loud gulch]

I should have said I can make him lose 10k a week and here are my bank details lol

[sick grail]

Bro why you sit in your own Ali 😂

With no actives

[tired goblet]

There’s not actives 😅

[cobalt moat]

actually i would disagree

there will be at some points dozens of opponents

some of them will not have whales

[tired goblet]

Yeah

True

[sick grail]

Not when you sit in that 😂

I can come join you 😜

[cobalt moat]

you can have plenty fun

at all tiers

[tired goblet]

But in the end of the event you will face whales

[cobalt moat]

we didnt throw our allies into walls

gave them enemies they could handle

and provided backup if they needed it

[tired goblet]

Is my gold mine 🙊

[cobalt moat]

and you will have whales to deal with them

[tired goblet]

Yes

[cobalt moat]

in the end maybe a dozen factions remain

pretty much all have whales to handle whales

[tired goblet]

I’m my experience, I didn’t had fun last UD 😅

[cobalt moat]

what faction

were u at

[tired goblet]

I don’t even remember 😅

[sick grail]

You burn the server dead? That's why the others sit under bubbles 🤔

[tired goblet]

Is my server

[slow pagoda]

Ud is fun

In whatever faction you in

[sick grail]

No wonder it's inactive

[tired goblet]

I did born there

[cobalt moat]

it was certainly more fun than average svs or el

[sick grail]

If you burn them all the time

[cobalt moat]

UD is a very well designed event

just needed afew adjustments

to perfect it

[tired goblet]

Look

Se the date

[slow pagoda]

It's better..unlkke other events where there is no strategy

[sick grail]

And that means you can burn the server 🤔

[tired goblet]

I can do whatever i want 🤦🏻

[sick grail]

Yes no wonder dead server

You drove them all away

[tired goblet]

I want a dead server 🤦🏻

[slow pagoda]

🙈

[sick grail]

You will be only one left

Nothing to do or burn anyone

[slow pagoda]

That fine if you want dead server

[sick grail]

👏

[tired goblet]

Warrior you don’t get the point 🤦🏻

[sick grail]

Life of bordem

Only you

[tired goblet]

Yes

[sick grail]

Isolation

[slow pagoda]

Warrior is spiced up 🙈

[tired goblet]

😅

[sick grail]

Arnt I always 😘

[slow pagoda]

Today it showing extra kick 🙈

[tired goblet]

People are coming soon the server

[sick grail]

You get nothing out of being a 1 man server tbh

[tired goblet]

I’m leaving soon

[sick grail]

So you can burn them and then let em leave in 30d

[slow pagoda]

But still. You can enjoy Ud

[sick grail]

You can enjoy burning players when you have them 😂

Not when you drive them away

[slow pagoda]

But that to boring burning all the time

[sick grail]

Not for creepy 😂

[tired goblet]

Creepy being creepy

[sick grail]

Unless it's the name that makes them sheild 😂

[slow pagoda]

Hahahhaa

[slow pagoda]

For some may be ..I lived in a server where there was 1.5 years war continuously...at one point.we had 10-15 rebels 🙈

Continuous burning is boring life

[cobalt moat]

in my first server 292

about nearly 1000 people quit

because of 2 people

[sick grail]

Burning is fun

[midnight plover]

lol topwar gave away 40 purple cards for free

[cobalt moat]

ive always felt the game would be much better off if there were ways to prevent those scenarios

[sick grail]

For me 2 years ago

I got out of that mindset a year ago

[sick grail]

You mod tell that to devs 🫣

[tired goblet]

I was born in 1583, I went to 1698 (we won El) I went to 1472 and then I came back to 1583

[frail plaza]

i only know my wallet would still be full if i didnt commit to those scenarios

[sick grail]

That looks like 10 unless I'm blind

[heavy needle]

How to unlock new HT?

[sick grail]

Wait

[midnight plover]

I got 4x 10

[cobalt moat]

long past those days
nowadays people will just transfer out

back in the day only option was start over

or quit completely

[sick grail]

Not for new servers

[dense wind]

5 research tries per day, you need to do at least 1 Into the Unknown building task

[sick grail]

These Korean whales everywhere now

[cobalt moat]

eh they can buy tickets and get out after few months

its easy

[sick grail]

And you stuck with them for 240d

[cobalt moat]

better than being stuck forever

lol

[sick grail]

A few months nearly a year 😬

[heavy needle]

Ok lmc

[thorny spire]

soo

[sick grail]

240d can feel like an eternity when you want to leave

[thorny spire]

who unlocked the new ht??

[sick grail]

2asnt it 13th

[tired goblet]

I’m the end is a war game

[sick grail]

Not 12th

[cobalt moat]

perhaps but u will still know you can get away

[frail plaza]

give some time

[tired goblet]

🙊

[thorny spire]

nah

[frail plaza]

people are stil all inning

[thorny spire]

all in style

[frail plaza]

they buying

[mystic trout]

Wtf is this new chip set?!?

[thorny spire]

do it in 1 minute

[mystic trout]

New chipset seems broken af

[thorny spire]

its 💩

[tired goblet]

More money 🙊

[somber apex]

into the unknown crappin out 10 purple tickets

[slow pagoda]

Heavy trooper is out 🤣

[sick grail]

Not 12th

This says 13th????

[thorny spire]

the name itself is broken

[frail plaza]

server time

[thorny spire]

it is 13th

for tw

[frail plaza]

they forgot the GMT+8

[thorny spire]

😏

[sick grail]

Wtf

So confusing

Fr

[mystic trout]

Huhhhhh