#📱│game-discussion
1 messages · Page 24 of 1
I never liked kotiya
Making stromoy a better choice for navy

Right now layla replacement is near.. layla is over due now. Or overworking
🆓

Yes hopefully kowaru
Back then, stromoy were just a minor upgrade from kotiya
I don't like this silence shit anymore
Now what changed for stromoy?
Hope not .. atleast 3 more months. Navy don't need replacement
No it's not. Actually..
Bhai I don't have layla
Her indes is too weak
She is there to support crimson
what are you using atm
Gipsy Crimson striker
just keep Gypsy then
Crimson without layla = still strong
Layla without crimson = dead
Yes
It isn't. ... apart from its indestructible it buffs crimson and gypsy if you are using
navy atk buffer will always be noob
Anyways I have to perk farming for army
Crimson can stand alone but layla doesn't
Exactly
Layla needs crimson
Yes
But crimson doesn't always need layla
Layla is supporting hero
Why you consider as stand alone heroe
Striker is the goat in all marches
I upgraded him instantly
Yes she is also very good
Bryn cannot
Yes
Which is a problem
🆓

It's mjx of both it can be supporting hero or both. Depends on what will be striker replacement 🙈
Best 4 for me are asuka Gipsy Crimson striker
2 days + count down to level 100
And new odinium tech
When you trying to make a new march, you wanted to upgrade a hero that is standalone first
Exactly
Which is why to build navy, you should build up crimson first
For now asuka is not standalone hero
Not layla first

I am also on 13-3
Yeah, but the fact that asuka can be everywhere just means bryn is buried. Dead for good
That's what I did and I believe upgrade heroes just before el if you want to get best roi on a hero
Lets wait for Shinji replacement
Yeah babe

But for this bryn, she is over
She can be. But 3 rd hero will decide future..
To make a bryn + asuka march, you need a third hero that is an ides hero with enough atk buff
Best hero after maximo is crimson 🙈. .just he isn't universal. Otherwise he got crazy damage.
And you need asuka es 5

Asuka Brady striker is good
Ya. 3 rd hero will be important which says Shinji may reitre completey
i got 1 purple mats from crystal run 
gives crystal disk tho
Crystal run is okay-ish
It's free
And fun if you like speedy flash marches to bully df
And you get disc
Asuka is so good but the fact we are not level 100 yet only means every heroes before level 100 is just a test hero
Asuka's potential is like erin
She boosts every magnet hero
Have anyone tried asuka max and striker ?
But hp heros gonna rule
And future magnet heroes
Not good
Low atk buff

True. Asuka seems like a good@hero but hard to fit in. I have to replace max with her ?
Dmg increase
What you running?
Af. Max shinji hazel
I am f2p so i cant replace everyone there
Was thinking to replace one
I dont like Tom brady that much

Keep running that, or else you need to replace 2 heroes
if you have enough for lv3 march decor i'd probably choose it
Im asuka fan. Poor boi cant fit her in
Okay
You have only one march right?
Them definitely don't upgrade her
Okay. 👍
I m running navy army so will use her on army
I think she good with army or navy with striker and gypy
#📮│game-suggestions message we don't want L1 turbines push it!!😎😇🙏
What this thing now.lvl.of turbine
🤘
Not on navy, Crimson is better
People still give advice to perk rather than upgrade new heroes
🤦
Perking << getting new hero ?
you have to complete the perks somehow, it's permanent
if your heroes are too outdated then getting new heroes is better
Yes
In my server People choose perking mega over getting Gipsy ffs
Why not?
Comeback is real
It's true that the fact max perked old hero is weaker than a new hero
But it's back into the individuals
👀
Some people just cannot stop chasing heroes
1 star new hero beating 5 star fully perked old heroes lmao
Then perking never actually been done
💳💵
I meant only universal
F2ps anyways can't afford non universal heroes
Having perk mules are nice, eventually you'll be flooded with perk shards
Always have 620 gs in your inventory
I mean if you have missed on Gipsy or striker, why you even playing this game lol?
Dude that's a non argument
Gipsy and striker is basically prime and mega gen2
You moss so many rewards
Back then, prime's indes was so op that he used to not have a counter hero
Miss
It is
Their replacement should be coming in some months
Obviously it will but what's the point of perks when you can't even do nothing
Missing some major heroes sucks, but their power creep will eventually comes by
When you have finished them, you aren't going to worry anymore about them
Well, newer players who being created after eva2 events have no herous to use
They won't ever have access to eva heroes
Or PR
You can switch perks for 1k gems to other heroes
like me, 
just army left
Although
Air?
Now that i think about it..
i fully perked both navy and air
Omg
still loses anyway lol
Due to mastery, equipment, heroes equipment, decors, formations
Lol
Perks are slowly losing perfomance
no point in missing out extra 660% ATK and HP
They need to adjust perk stats
Perk remould
soon soon
Add purple shards here and there
660% ATK and HP

But due to these features above
I m waiting on perk farming my free heroes for army
Tbh, the need better perk stats options
You can have over 2k% stats anyways
those features are more favorable to whales
Hp need change immediately
Then perks will be relevant again


Unit remould leaks please?
Ignore 🤣
I haven't completed perks yet in process of chasing heros 🙈
New players..they haven't spend for 3 years and not many excl 7. So it's understandable

New players can't sustain like old players

They got handful of lvl 7 still
i blocked her for the constant nonsense and tw company simping

Either an elaborate troll or frightening

Poor Angela, victim of evil TW community 🥹🪦💔
She's not trolling


that's even worse
13.6k $?
Yea
On a drill…



Bro know how to make money but not TW
So she ultimately not trolling
Divorce?
TW is more complicated than rl
Maybe she divorced bill gates
Maybe a glucose guardian
Big alimony
that's what i said
I didn’t get it anyway, sorry
glucose guardian. the gender neutral version
Glucose guardian, lemme save it
Oh sorry
✍️

Diabetes?
glucose guardian 
you are welcome
no. just money
Whales best flavour
Does anyone have the damage equation for TW? Saw it in one of t-me's videos a while back and trying to find it again. TIA
Asuka 1 y asuka 2 es mucha diff o más q na 5 más de march size? Pa un server nuevo
O me renta guardarme los 20 gs?
Si no la vas a llevar a 5 estrellas ni le metas
Me guardare los gs mejor xd
Si eres f2p, para el tiempo que juntes las 620 gs ya habrá mejores héroes
Así funciona top war



does this helps

Delayed to next month 
But I’m using crimson, Stromoy and gipsy 😑
Anyone please share the sheet for mastery cards requirement per level

Thank you
i gib 1 paper for 100 ex skil shards 

Thats the one! Thank you so much!
No deal, I need more than that 
Have not seen this one previously but I will take it as well. Thank you!


:3
What is the army meta? Too many heroes and combinations
We got this
Is Bailso worth recruiting?
Is she worth the gems needed in Heroes Return?
Is she just Bellevue with fancy clothes?
Just gold production hero
she used to be meta and a premium hero. two years ago or so. nobody uses her anymore.
Right, thanks. Not putting effort and resources into a really old hero. I already have the other "free" navy heroes if that's what I need.
Thanks
i highly recommend grabbing all heroes if you can get them with gems only
cuz having a hero is better than not having a hero
Gypsy Striker Asuka
bailos lmao
Whats this about max beeing nerfed ? What did they do ?

some say trigger rate reduced. not sure if even true
Just tryna verify this lmao
Does Asuka require ex5?
no
Max hasn't been nerfed
Barbie or Asuka for af?
Asuka
Gipsy Striker Asuka is a good universal march also
Hi
Why Barbie?
so for AF ex7 Asuka> ex7 Barbie?
Max is buffed means more dmg than before
@empty mural she said here - Barbs
at ex 7 tho?
Ah you’re right. Didn’t specify
Whales alert 🚨
DR my bro how are you
Scared to look at game discussion. All I see is All in or buy lvl 7 😂
Was Titan Canyon replaced with this new Whale Canyon?
Call HR.

EL again?
I'm surprised to see me here too lol
i usually just lurk
I should leave then lmao
Me too because I’m just a plankton
hahaha
Help guys ! Which is better ?
21%
tell Levi I'm part of the Shinji club now @shy moss
DEF
Nice did you lvl7 him ?
yep
Amazing
Don’t expect big results from shinji bro, he got replaced long ago
But he can be useful if you are using multiple march
Put him on army since your main air
GD ? Who
Gypsy Danger
Lol
Bryn dead lol
Gypsy Asuka and striker or shinji would do
I’m not happy with bryn not a huge difference from Polik
Waste of shards
ah copy that
i thought, based on abilities, it would have been Asuka, Brun and Striker/Shinji
but I see your point
@dense wind give me luck 
i got a .10% chance for a base choice skin chest, think i got high chances
Works too
Asuka can replace gypsy easily but I prefer gypsy over bryn because he is just too good
word
100% agree
do you think so? I prefer shinji 7 but maybe it depends on rest of our setup
I opened 500 and I didn't even get shit.
The chance to get the skin chest out of 500 is a bit below 5% so that’s no wonder😄
@onyx basalt hey me
Wish you better luck than mine
Yeah, important to notice 0.01% is not 1% 🙂
thats a nice chip!
This guy maths
How 37% calculated? Can you share?
Google Bernoulli and learn something😊
W
That’s actually school mathematics😄
👀
It's a nice army chip
100
The skill for Ce lol
Think its like 5 more for ce
Yeah I see that now lol
Also which chip for army. Army is secondary - 3000/2600 300%
I thought it was more
Cuz mm gets 10. Ce is 15. Difference 5
As applied math master's degree fella, I almost got hurt by this kind explanation 🙂
No problem, thank you)
I’ll take it
Use that. If you really have a masters degree you should know that formula
🆓

Math does not apply in this game
Whatever they claim to be the base probability is false
Because this game is like a casino embedded by a randomizer
You can prove this by testing and having enough sample size much larger than 30
I did develop a battle topwars calculator once and it was either very accurate or very far off
Cookie… smart??!!!
Remember when they were cheap lol
What happened to the 8.99$
Now 20$

Thoughts?
upgrade it
Follow by formula I see 37%, probably, but it's probability of exactly 1 success
Probability of "at least one success" should be equal to 1 - probability of "all failure". Then it's should be 63%
Anyway no one said what was really used by devs for win-lose distribution algorithms, except mr white.
If "100$ was paid" then "give to him skin-box" else "don't give a fuck" 
I think max got buffed, so now we need a ban on him
His full name is Maximus Decimus Meridius
🆓

If all in then reward else 100gems endif

I GOT A LEVEL 3 DECOR
Whale
🆓


😆 I got called away on some work and came back to red flashing screen. Izzy was bullying me 😭
Who called you lol 🤣. Coz I did some work to take that AF out ., and I sent my navy coz it was done., and boom af back in
Fast af boi
@lime rapids you like my universal fried chicken?
Do you lose troops in this clone army event?
@graceful slate
Not only it is lvl 3
It is a lvl 3 3% dmg inc decor
9% dmg inc just like that
What happen.
Just shared our tc bracket, BiG was in it
Need that 50m broooooooooo
🥹
Looks like a good bracket
But nothing like Takes bracket
His TC bracket was their teams bdsm playhouse
Isn’t this event where whales have a chance to burn one another with out worrying about OD?
od?
Odium
Yeah
I don’t make Vals
I did once, just to see who I could smack on svs WZ
I’ll make em again when level 100 comes out .. and then delete them
Normal troops plenty strong
Depends who you meet
Right now at this stage of the game, it’s mega Whales heaven.
Every stage of the game be heaven for them
Nah just right now
There was so many toys released that they rushed everything
In a couple of months the average economic class will catch up.
Ye that’s why it’s Heaven right now
But in 2 months things will get more competitive
Hi
As accounts get closer in power to one another and then strategy matters again
Yeah
hey that’s me right in the middle

SHROOOMYYYYY
Damn Atleast you qualified.
TopWar told me I’m 2 weak to participate
🥲


Bought it,. EZ
Please get me also free 🤣

WHAAAAT NOOO
Dont buy
it will be free later on if u r willing to wait

You really did ignored what I just said and continued with doing the Math
I will say it again
There's no such thing as free in TW.
You can do binomial distribution, poisson distribution, hypergeometric probabilities, etc.
It's not going to give you an accurate answer when there is an in-game randomizer that stirs up data
I can name a few
Sounds right 🤔
Can you get gold shards for free? Yes
Can you get speed ups for free? Yes
Can you get skills for free? Yes
Can you get units for free? Yes
Can you get decors for free? Yes
If we were to look at this from an economic perspective then I'd say you are correct. Since there is always an opportunity cost to playing this game
But that applies to life in general
Actually you can if you are smart, there is a way
How 🤭
Move to a whale server. Collect 1-2.5M gems then move to a server region that will highly likely cost you less in gems when trying to win for popstar
But then again, there is always a risk to this
High risk, high reward
Just to get burned by one hit
You don't get burnt if you shield
then why do you want the skin for ? 😂
I never said I wanted the skin
You asked if you can get popstar for free. I laid out a possible way
Who is in charge of sending the reports for clone army attacking cap? Someone slacking. 👀
Idk

Should i get decor boxes or skill boxes from the event?
Next month i drop 6k skills to build a new navy. So probably exclusive skills
True my aka in af working thx 🙏
also put ben in ur navy
Can someone give a small explanation of how to get what I circled in the picture?
Pink guy to buff 💪
Asuka cause shes cute 🥰
Aka to destroy 👺👺👺
The strongest af march🙏🙏🙏🙏
Blaze reinforcement, tier III of shark formation
Thank you @green relic
Aka is ass
🧢Best hero
That has gold skills
Get ex 10 🔥🔥
No u

Noo they got rid of the chat
Aye
Try this:
Maximo
Ben
Selina
Put planes on first 2 rows
Put navy on the backrows
Show me the report
Make sure Ben has air skills
I’m failing to see what the point of the clone army is for lol
@native jolt
Just get rewards that all ..for now.
No need to think much abt it.
What determines how many rounds each of these waves go
Kinda funny they used clone army to make it interesting
But it ends revealing all top whales stats
Stats are getting revealed already by other ways to
This thing make it accessible to all
🙈
May be they try to touch ego for whales 🙈
SvS Warzone, Sandtable just shows march size
But with this one you can see everything they have 
Svs warzone also everything is seen
He not gon know what hit him tmmrw in wz 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I wouldn't recommend Ben Selina Max
Instead
Gipsy Ben + High Trigger Rate/High Damage hero on army

Also gotta always use gold skills. Always be on the grind 🔥🔥🔥
Have fun with that
We are limit testing with 2 atk multiplier
Ok put 2 critical skills on
Use the pvp arena to limit test

The shovel so i can dig my enemies graves after 🔥💪💪
Always bring a shovel to a fight
Yup, that's right
Good thinking
That shovel could crit
Yeah exactly if he runes out of ammo yk
he is really good for EL trades
ooh
I don’t trade in EL 🔥 i betray them
do ya think it's possible this eva event will be same like pacific
2 parts
you should trade in EL because if you don't trade you can't betray them

So true. You’re so smart 
There's so many ways to have fun in this ngl. Meta heros are kinda boring tbh
If you read hero description and apply it accordingly, you can exploit some stuff
Ken air vs Dosar navy 
Like for trades, etc
If I wasn't smart then I wouldn't be smart
I know how to be smart now
Just stop being dumb
On some situations.... Yes 
Starting today 🔥🔥
Where the 18 special effects
Some broke mfs
Also there are heros the can be exploited with weakenings
Read hero descriptions and you'll find out
Ken army didn’t have a single one surprisingly
What if i don’t know how to read
💯
I can’t see the titan gear from the tower reports though sadly
So weird that Ken is using an outdated air hero
Barbie?
The trashier garbie becomes
LMFAO
oh no 
Isnt it opposite, higher stats barbie is better
He’s probably tested and “garbie” is better I’d assume
Than max
Nope
Barbie scaling is literally zero
She doesn't gets extra damage
ex0 -> ex7 = 10% difference in damage
Wait
Not even 10%
5%
Oh wait forgot the ex7 effect
Which is just a 33%
So just 38.7% at max
Idk im only ex 5 but i seemed to consistently do better with barbie in that march than max
Max just on ex7 alone gets 34% increase without adding extra burn, dmg inc, and other effects
Hertz have farm skills too 🤣🤣
Tho not using anymore 🔥 i got aka now
A lot of top players using Barbie (although a solid amount still using Maximo)
I assume at that level it’s close
should I put on some skills for hertz
No it isn't
Yeah im gonna test random heroes tmmrw too 🤣
Barbie just gets 40% perfomance in terms of damage between ex0 and ex7
So many dead 5*
Asuka alone between ex0 and ex7 is aroung 170% increase
Max is roughly 75% increase
Eureka is 260% increase 💀
increasing transfer tickets 😅
ok im ready, watch this
What about hp stuffs
Since high hp shield Barbie might be solid at lvl100 no?
Maybe defence idk but barbie def had better results than max
The hp is only exclusive increase
Not enough
Best defence is atk 🔥🔥🔥
Biggest hp shield hero in game tho so I figured
ex7 + scaling Barbie = 78% hp -> 107%
kum
Mines 4 get on my lvl 😎😎😎
Yes
You won't have enough
🤣🤣🤣 i didnt win
It will have extra garage/dock/hangar spaces
Of course… but I still got too many 
And more repair/training costs reductions
You need to use that combo agaisnt air 
😫😫
I have 51.1k
its really fun 🤣🤣
Its the yellow ht
Everything researched
welp

Get purple
🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha right, wz is usually boring. This will make it fun 😎 even if my ranks suffer
Honestly not as expensive as I anticipated
who tf cares about ranks
🤣🤣🤣
fun > ranks
You say that because you had time to save up
Were you expecting Odin chips 2.0
But in paper it takes like 8 months to get 134k Odi chips
😂 you never know with TW nowadays
Almost 1 year
What sv r u in btw?
I was expecting it to have a pay ceiling introduced and for it to take me 10 years like with power cores 
What kinda stuff iisit
dw
They may add it if they want on next Odi expansion
Because the incoming one isn't the last one
There are still some spaces available on menu
So

Lvl 1000

Coming by 2025

1257
It is my friends server. But I retired in 591
But retired players can still play
Because if someone retired it does not mean they can't work
Speaking facts 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I quit but i still play
Yes u can do both. Open your mind 🧠🧠
P = w/t
You have to work everyday
Glass is half full
Or half empty
But you know what it isn't?
2631 members here
Me. I’m empty inside 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
It's neither half full or half empty if the glass was actually empty
A glass can never be half empty or half full if u drink out of a bottle
Think about that
Let that sink in
Don't let the sink in
What if I drink out of a decanter
trade means wat?

Without shark formation 
Seems like stromoy was really helpful
Finally lol
I’m a bit tired of levelling up marathon
or say barbie is dead without g-10
that dmg from 11 trigger even layla is doing better
Or, is that even real battle report or just clone 
And, navy is only good at ex7 so
clone or real anything barbie losing is happiness for life

Going to be 100 

Thanks 🙏
Barbie simps will be after you 
they are underground for now 
using asuka secretly replacing barbie

Why Barbie or Max when you can Asuka? 



I have seen whales in new server usin
shinji askua Brady
All exclusive 7


Yes i don't know why 😞 #1155560809250963497 has to go with all the hate for no reason 😞
After doing so much for the community... maximo is being treated like an outsider

Which one is good to use for army ?
Unless you like looking at Elemental and fantasize over it. Right is better
Elements are nice 👍 to be dumped 
Who tha in your pfp
Phir elements Wala use Karna chaia bahi ?
Cute pie 😍
Who tha
Dump 🚮
Ah 😅🔥 sorry sorry got it 😅😅😅
Heavy troopers:
1.ATK SPD
2.Shield,DEF
3.DMG±
4.Crit dmg,ATK
5.HP,Crit rate
6.Elemental = 💩
🤣
Whole ass translate chat
left
It was cool to finally have a chat silently and korty didn’t spam 🤭
Don’t mind me. I woke up and chose violence today
?
I saw it earlier
as good as pop
Navy indestructible

where? Can you reshare?
Milliiiiiii
That’ll be great. I think Layla had a good long ride for a while
What I do 👀
Crimson chin the replacement, was my jokeeeee

🤣🤣🤣

I tried being funny. It didn't work. Time to delete game again
HERO_NAME_155
Nah. We let you cook 😂
Bucket head 2.0
The kitchen is burning as we speak

770 really pissed off the devs with the discord hijacking stunt. Now they want to be stingy with all the new hero leaks
For now, gold utility heroes are optional except amalia
Some may maxed scaramanga if they use vals
That’s part of my plans
I actually attack with my vals now
Plus I’m training a full base of air and navy Vals
I’m not making any until my new world starts
You might like the new odin techs then
make some you will get like 3× Valhalla speedups
Wise decision
Ewwy
needed to train new ones
I lost my old ones lol so no more making xD
Wow 😯 the leaks are out already? 🫣
They pricey af too
The benefits though is during SvS, your repair costs will be crazy but hardly anything will actually die
old Valhalla 5 trains in 40 hours while new ones takes only 14 hours
literally in that 5 speed ups you can train 15 Valhalla
Underground sources from 1-2 weeks ago

There hasn't been any new leaks yet
14 hours ain’t the worst at least you can start in the morning and have them done late at night lol or from reset to morning
Will 5k odin get me full base?
it is but you can atleast do is faster by refunding old Valhalla and get speed ups for that
My vals speedups still in inventory
Yes. It will. Just have to keep tapping build until that button gives out
Who need speed ups when you have gems



seriously only 20k gems needed for 1 karch Valhalla
Ez
Yes that’s dirt cheap






👋🏼
Does anyone know if they will fix the issue of players getting poor results when pairing asuka and brynhilder?
has the verdict of Asuka changed over the days?
Feels like a somewhat sad state of affairs
Not that I know of 😞
They won't fix, they will power creep with a new Gypsy/Striker that has magnets
Or you could just get titan gears with magnets for only 1 million gold catalyst
cool at times people change views so was wondering. Being a navy did not push on her
I’m looking for methods under the $50k usd mark 😂
make different combo lol if that is not working
Yeah I know. Just a fair bit of angst in the community about this for those players who paid for both.
True. But it’s also rivergames mistake. Pretty clearly they weren’t aiming to replace brynhilder with this hero. Rather they aimed to have it working when paired with asuka (implication is replace either gypsy or striker).
Bailos EX L5 , 24k gems this time
So, asuka brynhildr and gipsy will work good?
👎
No
not really you shouldn't be in hurry always and collab heroes>> outside collan
striker woll do better
We will have to agree to disagree
i think specifc heroes are stronger

just they're not last long
which one
newest ones






🆓




