#📱│game-discussion

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loud gulch
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I will convince him to spend more

grand prism
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Ofc

loud gulch
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Even though Mohd still beats fear

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👁️👁️

grand prism
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Angela in 3 months vs dosar?

loud gulch
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Fax^

orchid copper
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Wow

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What can I buy with 16.4k usd

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Hmmm

pale reef
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Whale 🐋

orchid copper
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Maybe a half house

loud gulch
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Angela spends more than everyone else speaking entirely 😂

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In just a week

pale reef
loud gulch
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I’m over here like hmm probably £200 in a week

glossy field
loud gulch
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Angela is like 16.4K

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Take it or leave it

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tiger

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Share

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Now

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Or ban

pale reef
loud gulch
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SHOW

orchid copper
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Let me kill 8th angela

loud gulch
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NOW

pale reef
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🆓AllIn redutility4 alert

loud gulch
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😡😡😡

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Angelaaaaa

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Can you kill tiger?

pale reef
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Free only for kitty

loud gulch
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😂😂😂

pale reef
loud gulch
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Tiger shows no proof

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So Angela better

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🤭🤭🤭

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Karajan has like 270ms

pale reef
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Kitty just small 🦐

loud gulch
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All marches

pale reef
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Shame to share

grand prism
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Hmm

loud gulch
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You wanna tell him what to buy Angela?😂

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I’ll give you his discord

grand prism
loud gulch
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I’ll just send you his discord xD

grand prism
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Ok

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I'm not a whale trust

pale reef
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Angela sure all in GG

loud gulch
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You can make more whale friends

grand prism
pale reef
grand prism
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My stats not lying

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😂

pale reef
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Lmao 🤣

loud gulch
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15% crit rate dayum

grand prism
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Ong

loud gulch
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10% crit dmg 🫣

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🐳

grand prism
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Noo

loud gulch
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12% dodge buff?

grand prism
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Yes

frail plaza
exotic trail
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@pale reef did you change barb for asuka?

pale reef
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Nope

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Still love kum

frail plaza
pale reef
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That simple tips

pallid birch
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almost done fixing ny mistake

frail plaza
pallid birch
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there were 683 before 8687shrekheh

dense wind
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For now, the maximum is 10

frail plaza
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morale 100 coming

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ez

dense wind
loud gulch
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What about vip10👉🏻👈🏻

pallid birch
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morale 10 shouldn't even exist

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least not the warbeast part

frail plaza
loud gulch
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But

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But

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But

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Help everyone 👉🏻👈🏻

frail plaza
loud gulch
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I like doing the pinballs 🤭

grand prism
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I'm vip 9 can I get tips 😂

loud gulch
grand prism
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Someone buy me Amalia

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I don't have her

pallid birch
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i like money
take my illegal loans if you also like money to help me make more money,
you may or may not be financially unstable afterwards 1pepe_hmm_green

frail plaza
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pinball gonna give me the least amount of voucher

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bad

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gib monopoly

loud gulch
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You just suck at it 🤭

pallid birch
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exclusive boxes all in

frail plaza
pallid birch
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who needs skins

loud gulch
pale reef
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🆓AllIn ThumbsUpCuteAnimeGirl

frail plaza
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you just lucky

loud gulch
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I’m just skilled

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😎

frail plaza
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skilled at luck

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only

loud gulch
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Still skilled 🤭

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👁️👁️

pale reef
pallid birch
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ima head to bed now, night nerds 👋🏻

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@dense wind stop lurking

frail plaza
loud gulch
frail plaza
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yes still considered skill

loud gulch
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Today

frail plaza
pale reef
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Good night everyone, kitty need hibernation too cat_sleepy

frail plaza
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Just look how bad it is

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5 days

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Only 182

loud gulch
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🫣

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I was going to say good for a day1

frail plaza
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And only 4 gold box

loud gulch
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I think I have Urm

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400 vouchers now

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👁️👁️

frail plaza
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Yeah pinball suck ass like my CP

loud gulch
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I like pinball

frail plaza
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For the same 5 days I'd had like 50 boxes already

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Instead of 4

loud gulch
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How many pinballs you used though

frail plaza
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I don't count

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Some days 10

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Some days 20

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I only buy $1 pack

loud gulch
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Oh yeah I’m using more

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😂😂

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Today 10

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Yesterday 38

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Day before that 24

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Day before them was 10

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🤭🤭

frail plaza
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Monopoly with the 1% boxes just better

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Pinball only give a little

loud gulch
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I like it still and also base skins yay

frail plaza
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I got less than 600 for $5 + $3 in pinball but got more than 600 for $5 + $1 on monopoly

heavy needle
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Only getting es from pinball

frail plaza
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Monopoly>>>>

heavy needle
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Definitely

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Pinball is trash

frail plaza
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Yeah I hate those 3 type of boxes

craggy quail
frail plaza
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Bronze, silver and gold?

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😂

loud gulch
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What’s monopoly

frail plaza
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The one which you roll dice

heavy needle
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Dice game

loud gulch
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Ohh

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I got fucked on that

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Spent so much more

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And didn’t get anything

frail plaza
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The last one you can partner with 2 people

loud gulch
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I wasn’t lucky with that

frail plaza
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That was way better

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Even storytelling is arguably better than pinball

loud gulch
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I like storytelling

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And the chest one but can’t remember how it went

frail plaza
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Just simply the fact that pinball has 3 loot boxes instead of 1 1% box

loud gulch
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Buy more

gusty quail
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To whom 😅

grand prism
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Buy me some

dense wind
rich turret
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Here we go f2p question

dense wind
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no

rich turret
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Why that space take 2k gems .. and all that area will take 2k with new open?

dense wind
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not worth it

frail plaza
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open during gem gift

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when you need more space for the decors you whale

rich turret
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So that all area cost gems .!

dense wind
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Unless you have an emergency with space

frail plaza
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yes

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all

dense wind
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On that case yes

rich turret
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I can delete my deco

weary rain
rich turret
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I will spend gems on that

hoary star
rich turret
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F2p should always have few gems

frail plaza
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i already did

dense wind
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You're on 770 1pepe_hmm_green

frail plaza
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open all space on my base

rich turret
sudden hound
rich turret
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No car no new home no new company

dense wind
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Since the start they said it was going to be lvl 1

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Has nothing to do with transfers

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And 2nd

sudden hound
rich turret
dense wind
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If we get the lvl 5 one it would be kinda broken

dense wind
sudden hound
frail plaza
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if we get the lv5 one, new players will complain

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why f2p get free lv5 decor

sudden hound
dense wind
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10% DEF 10% Gathering Speed 25% ATK and 25% HP Decor

sudden hound
dense wind
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It would be kinda broken

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And we're talking of an one time decor

frail plaza
rich turret
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They lied to us

dense wind
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If someone wasn't able to be active during the event, and if they made it at lvl 5 then they'd be fked permanently pretty much

frail plaza
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they dont want old players to beat them

dense wind
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So the lvl 1 makes sense

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Also

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Anyways new servers going to get the New World event

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So it is not a question of old players vs new players

sudden hound
frail plaza
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everything in this game can be gotten with time no?

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old players = strong

dense wind
sudden hound
sudden hound
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Take started 1 month ago

dense wind
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Right now the max is like 140% or 150% DEF

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So yes, it is a big difference

rich turret
frail plaza
sudden hound
dense wind
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Nobody has got 500% DEF 297700645316591619

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Current max is around 180% with heroes equipment hsving 2.5% × 2 on each hero

sudden hound
rich turret
sudden hound
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Give us L6 ty

sudden hound
sudden hound
sudden hound
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25% atk*

sudden hound
onyx basalt
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they should introduce a 100% def deco

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however, every time you get attacked, it charges $3 to your cc

sudden hound
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Lol

rich turret
# sudden hound Lol

In short, the developers do not care about the players... because there are packages that anyone who wants can buy. If you cannot buy them, this is not the developers’ problem because they prepared this game to collect money and live happily! A profitable business project.. That's it, simple!

frail plaza
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7 days left until i open all my HT chests 2141cheemsdorime Prayge

onyx basalt
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moar hero?

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:3

frail plaza
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shinji, rei, kaworu

dawn flint
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Think just one looks new. At least hope so.

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But normally they do release a third hero that is literally the same as decor.

proven widget
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Hi

rich turret
frail plaza
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bucket

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head

rich turret
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I didn't watch the anime

frail plaza
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i didnt too..

rich turret
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Let me check

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The first video

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Sht

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He dead

valid kestrel
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Re: turbine decor it always said commanders would receive a decor after the event. Which is a little open ended. CS clarified it would be lvl1.

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However during the event being active you have the benefits of essence donations. Green materials have come in at a good rate , so what you lose on one hand you gain on another.

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Nevermind increasing gathering resources during event for suppression advancement etc

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With 21d to go it has been possible to get over halfway+ for materials towards a gold equip. That’s not bad at all.

frail plaza
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turns into buckethead

valid kestrel
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F2p v p2w is always going be a tension don’t think there will be ever be a perfect solution. But New World feels more balanced imho.

frail plaza
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This type of game is just never meant to be fair, it's all money

valid kestrel
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Well agree. Trying to set any expectations new / upcoming players can compete with more developed ones is always not going to end well. However positivities and enjoyment is down to players and where they play

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Started on a young server 2.5yrs ago, and no “whales” and everyone was in the same boat progressing. Moaning at svs matching but even that you weren’t out of depth.

frail plaza
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The value is 0 when everyone gets the same thing

valid kestrel
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As I mentioned in turbine example, I’ve gathered green boxes for over half a gold equip and still 21d to go. EL coming up and if you’re active you can chose to get a free blueprint from the event

frail plaza
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Because every other active person gets the same as i do

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😂

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Yeah it is negative idealism, what's up?

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The game doesn't help making me feel optimistic about it

valid kestrel
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I’ve seen reports; and not everyone is fully done on the p2w scale.

mighty flare
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So what is the final review of asuka? Especially for the air force?

valid kestrel
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But that is going off topic. Right server right people you can have fun

frail plaza
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I am having fun with my friends in game

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But not having fun with the game itself

frail plaza
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Or was it replace Kum

mighty flare
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Keeping Positive thoughts is a good attitude but especially when a game is having more discrimination... Keeping positive thoughts is a waste of effort

mighty flare
valid kestrel
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There’s never a perfect world in any game or out in RL. Make the most of the positives where you find it, if you don’t, find something else

mighty flare
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But is she really worth upgrading? Works along with Shinji ?

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Max, Shinji asuka?

valid kestrel
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Asuka works well with Shinji imho

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Can’t speak for air combo with Max tho

mighty flare
mighty flare
valid kestrel
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Asuka xs0 is one of the strongest hero launches I can recall

mighty flare
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Max, Shinji asuka will be fine attacking march I guess 😅

valid kestrel
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I’ve read similar. Just going on own exp and that of friends. Mostly regarding army mains….

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First Zeus - hard question atm gypsy stronger than Asuka .. however I believe she has longetivity

tranquil mirage
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👍

valid kestrel
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Angela - swapping out Mega7 for Asuka5, I’ve managed to cut through opponents in Warzone 20M CP higher I couldn’t do before.

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So dunno. That’s my little experience. Army main shifting from Gyspy , Mega, Shinji. To Asuka in the middle certainly for offence.

round cloud
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My friend first of all if you spread another false information make sure you’ll get it right. I’m friend of the guy. Stop with this old shit ya know

mighty flare
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Taking reviews from the community is always better in my opinion... reviews and decisions are 2 different things I guess

frail plaza
valid kestrel
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It’s a balance for sure. And also offsetting Mega Atk hero buff which is all tiles versus first two rows, but then also the multifire similar to Katy nevermind the DoT tiles

mighty flare
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Do we have anyone who replaced max with asuka? Would love to know the reason behind it

valid kestrel
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She is defo not Piedmont 🙂

frail plaza
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bob is better i dunno what you on about 1pepe_hmm_green

cobalt moat
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they dont drop him for good

mighty flare
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Ya dropping max is big hard decision at the moment specially for those who have one good air march

wanton sigil
mighty flare
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I think dropping salina though with gypsy or asuka will be a good decision... Don't know what you guys think about it... As I don't upgrade heroes frequently I need to choose a hero that will support longer so I can finish my second march peacefully with perks

wanton sigil
mighty flare
wanton sigil
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Last 30 days 100k players left this channel

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Lol 😆

cobalt moat
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revisit when that releases

mighty flare
loud gulch
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Asuka looks amazing for F2P

valid kestrel
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Maybe drop; is iPhone handset upgrades 🤣🤣

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She is Storm

frail plaza
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ex0 viable hero, it's good

mighty flare
frail plaza
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the escalation

onyx basalt
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🇺🇸

valid kestrel
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She reminded me of Katy who with Tywin was my 2hm main for a long while and had great fun

wanton sigil
mighty flare
# wanton sigil

They should bring more whale events and restrict to 50cp only... That might improve this chart... tw = Descrimination on the basis of who spends how much

frail plaza
floral crow
mighty flare
wanton sigil
exotic trail
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Anyone tried Brady/Hazel asuka and striker?

wanton sigil
mighty flare
wanton sigil
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Atleast that would stop now

mighty flare
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Second I do feel vip5-12 are really useless..

mighty flare
frail plaza
mighty flare
wanton sigil
frail plaza
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that's you

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i dont fill up my heroes with useless skills

wanton sigil
frail plaza
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yeah and i f2p and still loses, wrong server, failure

mighty flare
scenic bronze
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HT is also an easy CP buffer

wanton sigil
scenic bronze
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Maxed HT is above 2M

mighty flare
frail plaza
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next month unit remould

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just wait

mighty flare
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Shoved right into heroes that don't know if it makes any difference or not

scenic bronze
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Unit remold?

frail plaza
valid kestrel
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Unit remould?

wanton sigil
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And odinium technology

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We will be easy 55m+

frail plaza
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ye, like titan gear but for your regular units ahrijuice

mighty flare
scenic bronze
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Odinutech probably 1-2m

mighty flare
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Unit remold is one more dumb thing that most f2p and vip 5-12 won't get 🤣

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Feedback channel is for ignoring what people writing 🤣

frail plaza
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new stuff for mega whales to slowly reach 10k/10k/1.5k/1.5k every month

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no worries

mighty flare
valid kestrel
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Surprised morale hasn’t had a mention 🤣

mighty flare
valid kestrel
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Which imho there are far better ways to increase stats than that

frail plaza
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maximum morale is 10, for now

scenic bronze
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I should send a job application to rivergame😂

frail plaza
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20 morale soon

mighty flare
frail plaza
scenic bronze
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😂😂

mighty flare
valid kestrel
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I’ve seen players get morale 10 quickly after the class tree expanded. Then another event with decor or something else negated certainly dmg inc/dec for a lot less if nothing.

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Warbeast? Think that’s retired in relevance since launch as well

mighty flare
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Like $20-30k

chrome stirrup
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not that much

frail plaza
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worry not my friends

chrome stirrup
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warbeast was like 9k

scenic bronze
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Yeah rushing the class tree should be something between that

frail plaza
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4th HT Divorce-4

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4 heroes

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lv20 comps

scenic bronze
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Space force

frail plaza
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lv120

mighty flare
frail plaza
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all coming soon

valid kestrel
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Resonators

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Oops I swore

mighty flare
scenic bronze
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You’re working for rivergame?

mighty flare
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Ya ya I always see this comment.... Remove f2p or dumb vip 1-12 players from game and then imagine this game

valid kestrel
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I identify myself as a walrus Angela. So I have an onshore/ seashore appreciation

scenic bronze
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Game lives from the community. Cut out all the low spenders and it’s dead within a month

mighty flare
scenic bronze
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That’s just wrong lol

mighty flare
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Do you mean to say vip 1-12 gets free vip?

scenic bronze
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Mega whales spend way more

mighty flare
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There are more vip 1-12 players than vip16s isn't it... Do the math

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Do you think paying 5k is worthless?

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Like it don't have value? While you justify 100k?

scenic bronze
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Every cent you spend in a game is worthless

mighty flare
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Read what I have mentioned

valid kestrel
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I think the perspective of highest spending players are in the luxury that most aren’t to afford that. As such they can equally afford to move on….

mighty flare
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I said simple.. I don't care how they treat game... But if someone is paying at least give as per that

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Dude... First of all... I am not against whales... I am specifically talking about things that you don't want to understand

covert flame
scenic bronze
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Mega whales aren’t the Problem the problem is that we more and more get forced to spend a lot to progress. It’s not satisfying if there’s no progress without dropping at least 100€ per month

mighty flare
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

scenic bronze
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Yeah but growing gets more and more impossible without spending

mighty flare
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You don't understand what people talking here better let it go

red herald
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Can’t take that trolling anymore

stark cedar
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within time you will get almost everything for free

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Look at decor sets, they are practically free now if you are willing to wait for it

mighty flare
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Look there are 3 types of people... F2p, vip 1-12 and then whales... I am simple about things.. you give how people pay out...

scenic bronze
mighty flare
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Second Angela stop getting offended...

chrome stirrup
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she has too much ego to understand but she is kind of right

mighty flare
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If you cannot listen to criticism then you cannot call a group community

stark cedar
onyx basalt
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@onyx basalt

mighty flare
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There is good and there is criticism always

scenic bronze
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Triple rof10 took me a year too

urban creek
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Haha I agreed with everything until CoC. That’s def the most free to play friendly no doubt

chrome stirrup
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no it’s not

urban creek
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Anyways question - how long did UD last?

mighty flare
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So you mean 5k player isn't paying?

covert flame
mighty flare
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Second I am not comparing

haughty cipher
covert flame
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Drama 🍿👀

mighty flare
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I am simply saying 5k players not getting enough benefits

urban creek
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For sure. Never got into that deep tho. Just have a Max account I never play and need to get rid of it lol

stark cedar
scenic bronze
chrome stirrup
stark cedar
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cos i aint spending a cent in this game 🤣🤣🤣

urban creek
mighty flare
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You will give it? 😅

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Are you a game developer?

covert flame
mighty flare
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Why so offended then?

stark cedar
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if you wanna be a strong f2p, join a whale server and keep collecting gems

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then when youve gotten strong enough, move to a weak server and become one of the strong players

covert flame
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One day you will be the king of f2p with hundreds of traps and millions of gems

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The most dangerous f2p

scenic bronze
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Whats $200?😂

stark cedar
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i can smash vip 16s now

mighty flare
stark cedar
mighty flare
stark cedar
mighty flare
stark cedar
mighty flare
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We are in the tw group... Don't compare others with tw...

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Mechanics, gameplay everything is different

frail plaza
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Coc is so different lmao

mighty flare
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Comparison is totally incorrect

frail plaza
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Coc actually takes skill to 3 star bases

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Top war you just whale

stark cedar
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when i was a new player, back 3 yrs ago or something, me and my friends used to join a new server and just keep burning it... was glorious seeing 3 alliances burning and a bunch of bases all over the map being ported

mighty flare
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In two you spend enough you are 3 star base times in 3 years

stark cedar
mighty flare
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Don't get offended dude 😎

stark cedar
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because usually, there is one or two guy who steps up their spending just to stop us from burning the whole server 🤣🤣

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but its funny tho because these people still dont know how to spend

mighty flare
stark cedar
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one guy kept buying units and spent maybe $400 just to protect his alliance lmfao

oak knot
mighty flare
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Maybe dumb whale 🐳😅

mighty flare
# oak knot

Yumi is awesome btw I have played with her

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There is free speech... You can't stand criticism... avoid talking

valid kestrel
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Don’t judge a player by CP cover

frail plaza
oak knot
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520 and 1112 server members?

frail plaza
stark cedar
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this game is like a game to play when ure having a break from work

scenic bronze
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It’s not really p2w I wouldn’t call myself a winner if I spent vip16+ amount of money on tw😂

mighty flare
stark cedar
frail plaza
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I whaled to fight in civil war yes

wanton sigil
frail plaza
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Bruh

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Genshin is not even a pvp game

oak knot
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Where is nvm

mighty flare
stark cedar
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How to play this game:

  1. Do daillies
  2. Don't look at the shop even tho it is everywhere. Just cover ur eyes.
  3. Understand how each stats work so you can read battle reports.
  4. Keep testing and experimenting.
  5. With enough sample size, you will get a good idea on which heros work for your own stats.
  6. Burn.
floral crow
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I can’t imagine spending on a non-pvp game

mighty flare
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How you can p2w if some other high spending vip16 can whop your rich bottom

floral crow
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I don’t even spend on pvp game 😂

craggy quail
frail plaza
mighty flare
floral crow
frail plaza
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Comparing a stupid ass p2w war game to an anime game where you just play for the waifus and stories makes no sense

floral crow
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I mean… either way they are both a p2w game

craggy quail
floral crow
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But agreed

frail plaza
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Haafr was taken away by genshin tho, 1330crykekw kinda

floral crow
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He def was

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Respect 〽️

stark cedar
floral crow
craggy quail
mighty flare
mighty flare
craggy quail
frail plaza
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Because people have ego and want to win and stomp on others, genshin players don't care about that

craggy quail
mighty flare
mighty flare
craggy quail
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If f2p can’t help sorry lol

mighty flare
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Will come when you guys will jump next

rich turret
craggy quail
mighty flare
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See no value for f2p and vip1-12

craggy quail
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I can pull some strings to Help as long as 40+ lol. We are only taking 50+ right now

mighty flare
frail plaza
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Whale servers 1pepe_hmm_green

mighty flare
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I mean I think myself vip 16 but I played f2p 😂😂😂😂😂

craggy quail
#

Then get to ass here foo lol

craggy quail
mighty flare
stark cedar
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one last perk to finish off army!

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I can put my army in warzone to bait navies from attacking then I will wipe them with my air lmfao

mighty flare
frail plaza
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🐳

rich turret
craggy quail
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My issue with the game is when you spend your own own money, I think I’m at 40k then someone comes along with a stronger account that they purchased for 5k. Can’t stop it so I don’t really complain but it’s fucked.

mighty flare
craggy quail
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Shhh 🤫 lol in that category sure

stark cedar
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if u cant be strong without spending then you should quit the game

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cos otherwise itll hurt ur wallet

rich turret
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I hope some day I will wake then I see all the world got zombie every where !

mighty flare
glossy field
#

Also at the same time if no FTP exists there won't be any targets for the whales and eventually they leave and again the game shuts down. It's a symbiotic relationship

frail plaza
rich turret
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I will be free no work any more

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No balls no tax

grand sierra
#

I want kaworuuuu

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Want to see how it is

mighty flare
rich turret
#

You will know when you will watch this

glossy field
#

A rarer is no one playing the game 1045undermisted

Sure ftp can't demand stuff but there has to be some fairness in the game. That's why majority are complaining now and not in 2021 coz back then rewards were fair for ftp

stark cedar
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f2p is rarer. It is very hard for people not to spend

grand sierra
#

Well I want his stats and skills, I know his skin 🤣

frail plaza
#

Buckethead

mighty flare
#

Before some time it was 5k to 100k 😅

stark cedar
#

I miss playing restaurant city on Facebook

mighty flare
stark cedar
#

I had a really dope restaurant

rich turret
#

I need another game to play.. what is.your suggest guys?

stark cedar
glossy field
mighty flare
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But I now get Farmville in tw only difference some pays for it

stark cedar
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Pet society was fun I had a really awesome house

frail plaza
mighty flare
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They were spending on 2020 and 21 as well

frail plaza
mighty flare
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I have been playing from 2020 but since 2023 I have had a very negative image of the game

dense wind
mighty flare
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Only reason I play now is because I developed good friends

dense wind
#

We need the old weakenings back

frail plaza
#

But some people asked for 3 heroes for MM and here we have it

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We are now just a mucus and magnet bots

glossy field
#

Ya. People can say like vip 16 spending they deserve better. Sure no doubt about that but ftp are spending quality time and they should be rewarded accordingly.

Who would come here daily to get some terrible rewards and everyday by spending 1-2 hours of their time just to lose ?

rich turret
glossy field
rich turret
#

TM was more strong them CE

dense wind
#

Good old TM days

rich turret
#

I was TM

glossy field
#

TM was strong until CE got 3 hm

dense wind
#

When i had 160% dmg stats as 2 heroes

rich turret
#

Yes crazy

mighty flare
frail plaza
#

2 heroes beatng 3 heroes were glorious, yes?

rich turret
#

Old tw more fun then now

frail plaza
#

Now it's all 3 heroes and money 1045undermisted

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But

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What if

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4hm

mighty flare
half echo
half echo
rich turret
half echo
#

Imagine how long it would take to generate a report

mighty flare
frail plaza
#

The duality of man

rich turret
glossy field
frail plaza
#

EL is gg now

frail plaza
#

You got 2 months UD

half echo
#

You disgust me

dense wind
#

EL was delayed due to UD again

glossy field
dense wind
#

They may change the store and probably fix that

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Only thing we can do is wait

valid kestrel
#

Silence another EL item🤣

dense wind
#

They have one chance to do that, hopefully they don't waste it 1pepe_hmm_green

glossy field
frail plaza
#

You can count on tw to fk it up good

glossy field
glossy field
mighty flare
frail plaza
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I don't even remember this year's Chinese new year event

frail plaza
#

I only know the one last year with the recipe and mountain Academy is goated

mighty flare
glossy field
half echo
#

Power creep allows f2p to develop 1 hero in their march and still come up a decent amount

frail plaza
half echo
#

I’d hate to be a vip 16 with all new heroes

mighty flare
half echo
#

And find an equal match from 2 outdated heroes and 1 new hero

frail plaza
half echo
#

It happens eventually

dense wind
#

That event was good for low spenders yes

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But

mighty flare
dense wind
#

It was the first 100% p2p event

half echo
#

And I was getting zeroed with oldish heroes (Selina max dante)

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With 12 perks

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And the other acc would have 2 perks with 3 new heroes

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Heroes are more important than perks

frail plaza
mighty flare
glossy field
#

I vaguely remember lucky discount store. It used to be so good

dense wind
#

TF events had better mechanics to give rewards compared to recent events tho

glossy field
stark cedar
dense wind
#

Honestly

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It would be good to get back these different classes

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Each having one strong specialization

frail plaza
#

Yeah...

stark cedar
#

one can hope

frail plaza
#

More roles

glossy field
#

True. Atleast there would be some creativity type if that happens

frail plaza
#

They did the same class rework shit to vals with new world

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Old vals were cool

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New vals 845913016444518410

mighty flare
glossy field
dense wind
#

Actually

half echo
dense wind
#

They could keep the current class

half echo
#

Coding doesn’t take 20 seconds

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Especially new ideas

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It takes time

dense wind
#

And add a sub specialization type that could work like the old one

dense wind
#

Not only time

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But also money

frail plaza
#

Ok it takes time

mighty flare
dense wind
#

And rivergames income has gone down by a lot

half echo
#

Yea and you’re building upon something that you might have to rebuild to accomplish

mighty flare
#

I say Only think for all types of players

frail plaza
#

I will wonder how long until they code to enable creating alts on 1-2150

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Today is day 4 of requesting

glossy field
half echo
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They milk the community at the start

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And eventually make it more f2p friendly

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That’s the layout of every game app

dense wind
#

And before we continue ^

half echo
#

Extremely predatory at first

dense wind
#

They are doing that

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Just that they are doing it step by step

half echo
#

Then it slowly caters to f2p as the game dies out

frail plaza
#

Game doesn't seem f2p friendly at all

half echo
#

To retain its player base

indigo heath
#

So asuka ??

dense wind
glossy field
half echo
indigo heath
#

Strong weak and what march

dense wind
#

Before vip 0s had to:

half echo
frail plaza
#

It only got more p2w nowadays

mighty flare
half echo
#

The only place to get gold shards used to be powerdrill 10k

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Y’all don’t remember those days lol

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And btw

loud gulch
#

🫣

half echo
#

It was a gamble

dense wind
#

Stick to a dead server
Low Gems income
Deep Sea and Lucky Fortune only available events to get shards
New heroes costed gems and it was impossible to get exclusives
There were no special events to get stuff we can nowadays

frail plaza
#

I bought Akatora shards and Bellevue shards for 10k power frill, wdym lol

dense wind
#

Only events to get decors were the bad decorations

glossy field
half echo
dense wind
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Ruins didn't existed so there were no rewards during these times from ruins

frail plaza
#

800s

pale kernel
#

Back in the day gold shards were really hard to come by, skill shards weren’t a thing, etc. the game definitely still favors p2w, but there have been changes implemented to make it more f2p

dense wind
#

SvS store no existed

half echo
dense wind
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Just that they have released a lot more areas for growth recently so the game looks p2w

frail plaza
#

Yeah, then Flippy cards came

valid kestrel
#

Powerdrill 30k here atm

dense wind
#

But let's give them some time

half echo
dense wind
#

So they can balance it out

frail plaza
#

While they did release "f2p" friendly stuffs they also pull the gap away faster with all these equipment remould and whatnot

dense wind
#

The small problem between TW and rest games is that most growth areas were released later, so the game looks p2w because of that

frail plaza
#

So it seemed no different

dense wind
#

We didn't see them on the start

frail plaza
#

They are still milking high

dense wind
#

We just need the gold blueprints

glossy field
# dense wind But let's give them some time

You mean 10 years?

Let's say they have a plan. Making level 80 to level 100 abruptly ain't a plan. It's like dropping a bomb on people who had planned how to go forward.

Clearly the vision or goal is lacking and that's why people are not satisfied these days unlike past

dense wind
#

If they delayed EL it could mean a revamp to EL Store

pale kernel
dense wind
#

ago*

pale kernel
#

I think everyone who’s been playing for a while knew it was just a matter of time

pliant pulsar
#

Well and fact that decor sets you can only get with money or a year for set cores with money or 12 years . And skins you even cant get without spending not counting same 5 skins in gapcha

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Easy fixes but and tools there to have it f2p friendly

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But nothing done with it

dense wind
#

Gacha got ZH-2 recently

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Which is a really decent skin and before it was pay to get

glossy field
# pale kernel There had been talk of level 100 for a LONG time tbf

Secretly announced or officially announced? Some small fish got Barbie + g10 + Lancaster thinking level 80 was permanent and then boom.

I ain't one of them but point being they release a hero and then they change a mechanic suddenly and the previous functionality is simply gone

dense wind
#

We have gotten the base skin shards, we just need to get the exchange to get the skins

pliant pulsar
#

You got decor set store for f2p make it able to get it with more active you are or something not wait months

dense wind
#

Well that decor set store needs one small change

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But let's remember something

pliant pulsar
#

Like i said there are tools in game just need tuning

dense wind
#

All these changes have happened in the last 2 months

pliant pulsar
#

And game would be amazing

dense wind
#

Give them time

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They cannot release everything within 1 week

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It takes months and months of developing

pliant pulsar
#

For example price of decor set total/ 30 days get that much points dor logining in daily

glossy field
#

Yup. Decor set store is really good. There are things that are appreciable but the overall satisfaction is not present is the point

pliant pulsar
#

And cores are ridiculus

dense wind
pliant pulsar
#

12 years

dense wind
#

And it cannot be done in 2 months

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Specially on a game this big

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It takes several months to develop various changes

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We just need to have some patience

pliant pulsar
#

Yea game is going in good direction just bad thing is as idea js done why make decor set shop so hard to get it

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It is a easy fix just change prices or increas prize

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If they wish to

dense wind
#

It's not an easy fix like that

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It isn't change one number snd that's it

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Each button

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each item

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each menu

pliant pulsar
#

Yes but if you get lvl 1 decor sets. Whale can have lvl 2 or 3

dense wind
#

has hundreds of codes, they are needed to be exact to prevent bugs

frail plaza
#

Yeah time

pliant pulsar
#

That is difrence between spender and non spender

frail plaza
#

It's always time

pliant pulsar
#

Give people option to get all

glossy field
frail plaza
#

I'll see how long my daily request for creating alts can go for

pliant pulsar
#

But let whales upgrade further

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There are for example hyperion that other expensive skin etc

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But not like all skins released in last 2 years

glossy field
#

Yup agreed. and these exclusive items should be earned by ftp after X months or X years of time span by participating in events

dense wind
#

Ex skills shards requires some small balancing to allow level 7 exclusives

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Shards are easy to get now

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It just takes patience and dedication to grind them

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But over time f2ps can slowly build up 1 or 2 marches

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And even 3

glossy field
#

Sure. But a single art is enjoyed by the spender at their home but here the spender's enjoyment actually depends on the time spent by the non surender. So the comparison is not apt

dense wind
#

Well

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Not at all

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Requires some balance

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Because there are only 3 sets

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1 year and you get the 3 march size decors

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1 year and 4 months and you get all the garages space decors + march size

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They need to add a new event to get these coins and slowly add more sets

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So let's just wait for that

#

Now, heroes equipment

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Right now they are adding p2w ways for heroes equipment, but there are still some gears blueprints and special effects yet to be released

onyx basalt
#

The biggest issue , things get obsolete real quick for f2p to invest in.

dense wind
#

So more sources of gears should be coming

glossy field
#

Similarly if FTP is not satisfied the game would die too. Rn there are too many events to milk Whales and some good old ftp events like beach landing, lucky discount store etc which used to be part of 2021 is missing

dense wind
#

There is a massive difference between being completely unsusable and being still usable tbh

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For example, Katyusha is obsolote

glossy field
#

Baking master is still somehow surviving 😂

frail plaza
#

F2p are obsolete by default, no f2ps play the game to be competitive

dense wind
#

Preycis may not be meta, but he still does decent

frail plaza
#

We play for the community

dense wind
#

F2ps play to be competitive

glossy field
#

Yup and they can complain too if they feel they are not satisfied and which is what happening now

dense wind
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Between the low spenders range

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Because let's not forget something else

frail plaza
#

That's just dumb

dense wind
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Even although there sre like 14 ranges of spending

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You can still compete within your range

frail plaza
#

In whale servers f2p are just mucus bot

proud hamlet
#

Y’all know what the free decor is going to be?

frail plaza
#

Or tower destroyer

dense wind
frail plaza
rich turret
glossy field
#

Yup. Agreed on that and there is no clear goal or vision on this from tw. On top good old ftp events are nerfed. So it's natural ftp for not being satisfied

dense wind
#

But you can still fight agaisnt others players of similar spending ranges

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Specially on big servers

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On big servers there are players from all the spending ranges

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So you can still compete

glossy field
#

If people complains about what they want, it's better not to assume that they are asking everything for free

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From recent discussions it feels like ftp shouldn't even raise their voice here

onyx basalt
#

The reason they shower us with green material is that hero equip is very tough to get.

dense wind
glossy field
#

Yup. Then revamp svs store. Svs store doesn't have defence manual or fortified manual from ages 🤣

dense wind
#

And f2ps voices after all have been heard

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We got Diana on heroes return once, we just need to wait for her to return again

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We have the base skins shards which are still being developed

dense wind
#

Limited rewards chests

glossy field
#

5 per month

dense wind
#

5 every 2 weeks*

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Limited reward occurs every 2 weeks from what i have seen

glossy field
#

Ya ok 10 per month

dense wind
#

Without even adding the other sources

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Radar, Warzone could give you between 0.7 - 1 daily if you do them daily

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So it is not that bad

glossy field
#

See point being new events are getting added, new stuff coming but the stores for ftp like svs store are not getting updated. When was the last time svs store got updated with ht changes?

dense wind
#

EL Store has gotten ht chips

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Same for UD

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But like i said above

glossy field
dense wind
#

They cannot do all the changes within 1 month and half

glossy field
#

Just because people are complaining doesn't mean they are asking everything for free 😂

vast vale
#

A whale cannot comment on f2p
And f2p cannot comment on whales

It's that simple really

dense wind
#

No one is saying they want everything for free without effort btw

glossy field
#

Some people seriously need to think and blindly expecting ftp to just come, play and go without asking anything 😂

dense wind
#

Players are just asking for more sources to get stuff

frail plaza
#

F2p is just cursed to work with "time advantage" and be called a failure and wrong server and they lose

frail plaza
dense wind
#

Not all complaints are from lazy people btw

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There are some areas that needs work

glossy field
#

Some 10 ftp are lazy so all ftp are lazy by the law of generalization is the dumb argument i had ever seen

dense wind
#

Before we continue

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The New World event isn't permanent

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It's a progression server event which occurs only once

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So they must add new sources for Heroes Equipment before it ends

glossy field
#

Now we are moving to the part of assuming what ftp would think in the future 😂

vast vale
#

You guys know Angela will never change her view or even agree on middle ground 😅
Circles

glossy field
#

Isn't it supposed to be left to the future to decide 🤣

pale kernel
#

The game does have a lot of areas that can be improved when it comes to f2p, but I think it’s important to acknowledge the changes they have made. The community developed a really toxic mindset overtime about this stuff and it ruins not only the game but the community. If in your eyes rivergame is always the bad guy you’ll never be happy 🤷🏻‍♀️

dense wind
onyx basalt
#

What’s wrong with giving more free stuff to do and get. As developer , the goal is to increase not only revenue , but play time.

glossy field
onyx basalt
#

This bubbles increased play time and social engagement in a big way

vast vale
#

Everything in a game like this should be free, just time locked. Unless p2w

Like many other games I've played, best equipment can be a 1-2 year grind, but attainable, and then new equipment is released etc etc

glossy field
frail plaza
#

Fyck luck lol

dense wind
#

They have just started to do some changes

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We just need to wait the next 4 or 5 months

vast vale
#

Doesn't make it right though, as I said everything with time should be attainable

frail plaza
#

F2p not only have to deal with no money, but also no luck

dense wind
#

The following 5 months will be critical for the game

pale kernel
dense wind
#

^

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I played first tw in the middle of August 2020

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And i have been played for like 1 year and 8 months out of that time

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Of which only 2.5 were the last 12 months

glossy field
dense wind
#

And during these 2.5 months of playtime i have grew a lot more than the other almost 16 months

vast vale
#

I have and still do play other games, I disagree heavily with you

proud hamlet
pale kernel
#

😂

proud hamlet
frail plaza
#

EL blueprints should just be all blueprints instead of only weapon, EL getting rare now cuz of 2 months UD

frail plaza
dense wind
pale kernel
frail plaza
#

They better be good

vast vale
#

Sorry, you said tw is the most friendly f2p
Now which p2w game is friendlier?

dense wind
#

Actually they were good rewards wise

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Old EL you had to be on the winner server

frail plaza
#

Rewards wise, meh, gameplay wise, forces to buy a storm factory lol

dense wind
#

And use over 1.5k vit caps of 50 to get good rewards

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Now if you are active on the 8th server you can get almost 50 tokens

onyx basalt
#

Aoc

dense wind
#

So the changes were good for rewards

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In terms of gameplay the changes are debatable

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But rewards wise new EL is a lot better than old EL

frail plaza
#

I'm just a weak ass f2p vip11 on a small server I can care less about winning

vast vale
#

No, I disagreed with your statement of topwar being one of the most f2p friendly games.

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Where did p2w come from

frail plaza
#

Them making limited moves, limited speedups, and need to send your march out to build ps is kinda bs

dense wind
#

On the genre top war is one of the most friendly

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On other games of the genre

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You can spend 300k usd

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Someone stronger attacks you and you lose that strength Permanently

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On here you just have to rebuild troops

onyx basalt
#

Can’t do anything but look at the other side

vast vale
onyx basalt
#

Ya this game is soft in term of losses.

vast vale
#

Well, I was talking mobile games in general now just simile genre 😂

dense wind
#

Well

#

We cannot compare Top War to games like PUBG, Angry Birds, Subway Surfers, etc, they are completely different for different gamestyles

#

To do a good comparison it should be done within the same genre

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And Top War is one of the most friendly within this ×4 style

vast vale
#

I was comparing to other games that can be p2w etc, I think that's a safe criteria to compare on?

dense wind
#

There is also Clash of Clans which is ×4 but it uses a different system to Top War, so both cannot be compared neither

dense wind
vast vale
#

Can everything, with time, be attained in CoC?

wanton sigil
#

@grand prism lol 😆

dense wind
#

CoC is different

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You can spend money

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But if you know how to play the game you are a top player

#

CoC is part of the ×4 Skill Genre

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Top War is ×4 Incremental genre

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Which is different

vast vale
#

Yes, 200k to do that. But years of f2p that can be achieved too? Or it is literally purchasable only?

dense wind
#

F2ps on CoC can be top players definitely

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Because it is a skill game after all

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Unlike Top War, which is more towards Incremental games, whose competition is to grow

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I completely differ on this one, Clash of Clans forms part of the skills genre, Top Players are the ones that knows how to play the game well

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You can spend 1 million

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But if you don't know what army you should train

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And how to attack

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Then you're going to lose hard

vast vale
#

This sounds me geekgod to me

#

😂

frail plaza
#

Coc is where strategy actually matters lol

dense wind
#

^

frail plaza
#

You only spend to level up faster