#🆚│battle-reports
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Falling out at this point
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Oh sorry I thought you were asking about yuu akatora combo, yes the new hero is good attack buff so could be used for navy, better than bessel and bailos for sure
yea he will come back, but in packs and $$$ only
NOOOOO
maybe events?
nah, $$$
how r u sure
Bc that’s the tw way
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Because it is what tw usually do, and he is not a collab heros either so no way he’s being unlocked by gems again
oof are there still free and available heros to replace him
katyusha?
Use mega or rei
tansformers will not comeback sadly,so rei,shingi and gispy for avalible and free meta?
Yea rei shin gisp works
Yes, rei is pretty good with Gipsy shinji combo
Anyone tried Gipsy danger for airforce or that won’t be good?
I tried it to troll, only 1 star but surprisingly effective 😂
Depends on your march
I mean you can get him instead of Selina or Just get hazel
That is what I’m asking, what is better i just saved shards to see if any new hero comes that is better than hazel
If you can make lv 5 skill of gipsy i would Say Yes but i dont think he Is Better than Hazel
Better to wait for all 3 heroes to come and then decide. (I can make lvl 5)
What this guy said. 💪🏾
thank you so much
I'm going to upload it and see how it goes
Buy More Pack 🌋
Thoughts on coyote?
Useless
Ah okay thanks
No significant impact on Leatherback ?
Maybe but useless outside of event
Looking for a report, which shows point of new hero 🙂 if someone already throw his money, I will be thankful for share
Any Gispy on AF reports
😁
Some but it’s much like max vs max… if max doesn’t turn up you win by a mile, if max does turn up its close or loss if trooper wiped you
Did he quit? Rollin old heros
If he had quitted he wouldn't be participating on the exercises 
😂
Is this because you have the heros?
If not then it isn't bad just not meta
Kum max shinji is meta
#NerfGypsyBoomer
u 🐋

Maybe, but there are new ones
After reaching v16, people realize why I am spending 😂
hes still playing but he's not whalin anymore
Lol u got more problems than that with that kind of march
Lol show stats 👀
Whai what's wrong 
Time to revamp that march. But also show stats. 👀
old meta navy with nereid and no stats to compare on both sides 
10 hits of nave made 1.54T damage = 154B per hit by navy despite of suppression on army while left side made around 189B against navy suppressions. left side stats >> right side stats 
Jesus you nerds gotta study everything 
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Gp rei mega report
I like polik more with gypsy giving polik’s front row a 60% atk buff
Yeah that's quite a boost
trying to get fake sympathy against gypsy 
I want to try some test hits on u
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Thoughts on Danger? i decided to pick him up today and besides him boosting my pve dmg against wB by like 50aa per hit, he does seem very nice in PvP
tested him out 11x against this navy march. won 8/11 fights
Gipsy is meta on army, and can also be used for an extremely good combo on navy, if you get the ex7 Gipsy becomes powerful
yea lvl 7 ex's are not in my future anytime soon, and i would think mega's 7 would be worth grabbing first over danger for more vul and dmg no?>
mega's 7 gives any unit a chance to add vul and increasing dmg by 20% while danger's 7 gives +1 missle and gives the same 30% to 3 random targets. so does that mean 6 targets in total?
gipsy lvl 5> mega lvl 7 lol
mega is secondary march now.
he can work with gipsy, but not as well as Rei or polik.
hmm. why is that? mega triggers and does a-lot more dmg over danger to vul targets. danger just adds vul and doesn't nes hit vul targets
Gipsy Is way more stronger than mega
Gipsy does a considerable amount more of damage, pretty much, Gipsy does almost the same but agaisnt 2 targets, and the atk buff from Gipsy is just.. Well.. Amazing
danger lvl 7- 3×180×1.34=723% damage , even assuming no vulnerability at all. mega lvl 7 - 320×1.2×1.34=514, assuming he has vulnerability always and he doesn't over kill. still gipsy way better, even after factoring oroc rate. not to mention his atk buff is higher
hmm. yeah i'm seeing danger is adding a-lot more atk then mega. but mega still hits vul targets harder then danger. danger 259% to mega's 354% but that atk added might just do it
Also, the vuln from Gipsy is higher than Mega's, Gipsy ex gives 30% vuln, Mega gives 20%
Problem is that Mega hits 1 target, Gipsy hits 2, so the 259% is actually 259% × 2, which on this case means 518% damage
if gypsy actually hits the vul target though, doesn't seem like it's guarenteed
higher chance he does with 2 strikes though
yeah, i'll have to continue playing around with it. still seems better then cromwell 😛
Well more the fight goes and less target Will be so the probability to hit a. Vulnerable Heroes Will be higher
And he hit 3 times at lv 7 as you Cam see take as One hit goes on vulnerable and 2 not It Is still higher dmg than mega
no polik, rei or even spring in my lineup currently. no skill higher then 5
You can Just use mega gipsy shinji till new heroes take over mega
just mega, shin, danger, crom, prey, ben, katy, prime to choose from, so i think my current lineup is the best i can do no?
I'm not sure who's better between mega and crom
test it out
i'm not rich, 2 gems for testing is killer haha. i'm a seal not a whale!
2k gems*
My army is weak anyway so I won't bother with it. 😅
but if you get danger you're army will be strong like bull! lol
i'm just wondering where Typhoon is going to be sitting when he's released
For Typhoon we need to wait to know his stats to be sure
If i was to replace Mega in my army lineup, would he be good to pair with maximo and prime? or would hazel be better then mega? not that i have to worry bout that anytime soon since danger took most my shards away lol
ples
try mega gp rei 🐳🐳🐳
Please share a Cromwell gp Mwga report
would never work. you NEED prime or shinji
Bro Shinji’s the best option. Polik, rei, prime, Shinji. All are cool but if your picking develop a march and what you want, get Shinji 😂
Mega + gypsy = pve march 
gp is nice , specially my rei get 170% atk boost with mega gp
Replace megatron for Shinji
i can only make 1 5* hero either gp or shinji mega rei are permanent
Gipsy and change later mega with new Heroes with indes
okey
Add in Selina 👀
what good is mega 7 with 2 out of 19 triggers
that's not gipsy, that's luck.
This game is luck 🍀🤣
Crazy
Anyways <@&667607304300134430>
The problem isn't Mega, the problem is Polik
12 triggers of 19 and still does less damage than basic attacks, smh

With gipsy tho, polik would’ve done a lot more damage
nope, still pretty much the same
It’s not
Max 40% difference, so 4t would have gone to 5.6t
All first attacks went straight towards Max’s row
Definitely not the same
It won't affect that much if you have for example Gipsy doing 15t
Just saying GD gives Polik a 60% attack buff for the front row. Making him hit way harder than before.
Not an actual 60% 
For example
1t without any atk buff
1.6t with the 60% of Gipsy
2.2t with another 60%
1.6t × 40% = 640b
1.6t + 640b = 2.24t
Gipsy would give Polik max 40% total dmg difference compared to the other 2 rows
The math ain’t mathing to me lol 😅
I’ve had better results with rei than polik both offense and defense
Every hero works differently for others
It does make a difference. Against the same person, stats didn’t change
Polik has worked much better for me personally than rei and my stats are sub 2k
Exclusive levels?
Also, if you can show the entire march and the other player you're fighting
I've checked in-game stats, exclusive effect and uh..
You're right, i retire the words i said earlier of Polik
Did some test in case anybody was wondering if Gipsy was good on af…..that’s gonna be a hell no
Gip is good on air force tf
just not meta u nub
Send reports lol and your right I am a noob just started yesterday
I don’t need to send report, many people run mega on air and that was considered as good as selina at lvl5 for some reason so gip≈Selina obviously not meta like i said but he is very good on air
If you say so, ima noob so idk lol
I guess so gip very good on literally anything
he good, but these are bad examples 
I know they aren’t the best examples but I’m just comparing my polik with mega vs gipsy on a static march
Lol
Bro, i really wonder your stats. Because, without indestructible buff how you can get these results.. or opponents are really weak.. 🙂
Main focus is my decor I try to get everything I have either lvl 3 or 4…helps a lot
Wat is ur dmg+,-
Without any buffs or with buffs?
No exclusives to lvl 7, Polik and Meg exc lvl 5, and GD lvl 6
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That’s with the miner base
But I use sandstorm for attack and bear of hearts for defense
its not calculate morals, but not that much.. ok ty
I don’t have morale and don’t activate my encirclement
Getting up there only been playing for 3 years
Gypsy gonna get replaced in a couple months anyways lol
Shinji 7/gypsy 7/rei 5/ polik 5 vs gypsy 6/mega7/op7
Nope, Gipsy is an extremely strong hero, his atk buff is quite big and his damage is uh well, huge
😂 you think I don’t know that. Maximo 2 is on his way and I’m not joking
Both have shinji level 7, right has kum level 7 too
Are these all with or without HT?
Do it without Ht
no way both of them have shinji 7
out
Air again 😭
This is ht problems man
That HT must have proced shin + gipsy first
Yup
Yup they do, guy who lost even has kum 7
Polik, Rei, and a few other level 7s too so hes no little whale lol

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F2p MM
Now you are comparing yourself to me🤔
Not me
nice
Oh wait it was 2* Gipsy 
yes Because I am F2P
Nice job 👍
Terrible excuse
I'm not on a server that's strong and big, I can't keep collecting gold shards😕
You can tho
Pretty impressive tho those procs were godly without lvl5 exclusives
Thanks you 👍
Exclusives and proc rate are 2 diff things
Yea but mega and gip without lvl5 only proc 6 stacks
Oh I forgot about that
wow really a good job, can you share your navy status too?
and I wondering is that hero using navy perk too?
I remember it's pretty hard for army user a long time ago to complete the individual defense, even when their march size is 150-160
That’s not f2p guy
Yes it is
Literally has purple ht 😂
You can get that ftp
55
0 cause he’s ftp

Some skill
Maybe doesn’t spend now, but certainly not vip0
Prove it
^ screen record you going to a stat with vip privileges
147 march size isn't that top, there can be vip 0s rocking 160s, and Farsight had pretty much almost 12 perks built before he started to spend, a vip 0 with knowledge can be as tough as a vip 9 or even higher
But with a 215 march?
wdym 215 march? if you're talking about Silently's image it was just a joke 
Anyone ever run a maximo in navy march? Such as Koyita Layla Maximo? Just curious to see if it has happen
It was ftp 100%
Maximo and navy doesn’t work
Some say he universal tho the laser hits but his ignite affect doesn’t work
He is universal, you will just lose the front row dmg- + the burn. But he is still doing his insane laser dmg with 600+%
Dude me, the truth is, I've worked on DMG Increase more than ATK and HP
yes I believe it, i just want the stats. to give a support morale for other f2p player
that low march size and low spending also can finish this
there's many active player in #1052792392878669914 , maybe it will be insightful for them
ok i will send it to you in private chat.how many Friends i don't want them to know my percentages🤭🤭🤭
120%?
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How old are you? Like server wise.
🧐
🤦♂️ like I’m in server 795 what server are you in.
Who to raise first, Crimson or Gypsy?
Yes
I use Nimitz-Shinji-Neried and can only raise one first. So who do I raise and who do I replace
how is the new hero worth the climb?
New hero kinda sounds nice. he has to offer a lot. just dont know worth a replacement
replacing what tho
haha yeah xD
SS is kicked to the curb
i still run bailos, so i can easily kick her out xD
all transformers can retire now. Maybe become farmer like Thanos in end game
this hero is not a bailos replacement
maybe replace Akat ?
Aka is washed, yea the replacement would be for seaspray, rei, or neried. Who else do you have with aka?
Yuu and Layla where aka replacement
New guy seems like a hybrid of seaspray and koyita which is nice
Yea meta should be Layla, Kotiya, typhoon
i have Yuu ( ex3 only ), so i wont use that hero. i have been playing With Mega 5ex, Bailos ( no Ex ) and Akat 5ex.
kick out mega
Mega does better than Yuu
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I like him better there personally. crimson should boost your march a bit
so then my Army march will be Mega, Gibsy, Katy
bit of a glass cannon but high damage potential
Yes if you do it right it’s strong, but the new hero’s change that
I know he is universal but isn't he more better with army?
So crimson is a replacement of rie?
don't chat here instead share reports
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Ex 4 on Typhoon
LAds, share some more tests with new hero typhoon.
comparison between typhoon and some other
Timmy will upload a video soon
can anyone provide a test report (Layla + Kotiya + Gipsy) vs. (Layla + Kotiya + Crimson)
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beautiful
You would want more so seaspray verse crimson as this is the hero that’s “supposed” to replace him
not looking seaspray. already got it. 😊
I have rei yuu bessel and can upgrade 2 heroes. What should I upgrade?
Get gypsy and Shinji, and take rei. And run army
Don’t do navy lol. Army becoming meta
Anyone have reports of crimson, gipsy and Layla or crimson, gipsy, and shinji?
Who is miku?
A man who will tell you not to marry and to invest in top war instead. 😄
13???????????
Layla only works with navy looks like the person that sent it noticed that Layla only works with ships 
I was thinking the same. must not be full navy
Any PvE test with Crimson ? I need to see the trigger rate guys.
Also an other question : Is Crimson War or Def attribute dominante?
Good times
War only, but you can see that yourself, as you have access to all info about all heroes. Trigger rate in my testing is 32-33%, Miku I think has data for 35, or 37%? Not sure now.
Where to see all that ?
He doesn't scale much with number of stars/level though.
Oh good tip ! Yeah lvls doesn't make big difference with that ! You need most likely decors 😉 thanks for the tip
Hey peoples, does anyone know what this dmg reduce is in profession perks, same place in the tech tree im pretty sure
Good old katy 💪
yea this is why im a bit confused.
well she is clearly good, but not on meta 1st march anymore. What you’re using right there is 2nd march heros lol
So is crimson worth 5* and lvl 5 exc?
not enough excl shards, i've more than enough gs to replace op with shinji
Or does gipsy work better on navy?
If both can be used, then even better
So how well would Layla-Gipsy-Crimson play out?
is army your main troop type? Because if so your first priority should be getting gipsy instead of mega/katy lul
yea
theyve been maxed perked for months now 😅
Anyone got reports? Of Layla-Gipsy-Crimson?
not of such said march
Then you need to swap to meta, asap
Get gipsy first then, ex3 is more than enough to kick katy/mega out of the march. You gotta test who does better between those 2
ive not enough skill shards, op exc 5 is better than shinji exc 1
Gipsy 4* without ex would do better
im about to get exc 5
just don’t get shinji if you can’t push him to ex5. No point
Go for Gipsy lvl 5 first, get rid of Katyusha
Then uh.. Next hero to be replaced would be Mega, instead of Mega use Polik, with lvl 5 then Polik's damage combined with Gipsy would be huge
or go full glass cannon mode and throw op away 
No don’t use polik unless you’re whale enough
im gunna wait, no need to replace mega asap
throw my vil in there then 😂
Literally polik is useless without the help of exclusive skills, and high stats
Polik gives hp, and with ex5 his damage is quite huge if paired with Gipsy
And about defense, Prime's indestructible paired with Polik's hp will help quite a lot
the dmg output from mega is way higher than polik
i'll have shinji before polik
With Gipsy nope
Also, like i said, you also need that extra hp for the defense of the march
Better get spring instead 
or just wait :D
polik is just.. no
im a vip 0 remember 😂
prob wait is the best choice, u gotta go develop gipsy first
Can we talk about crimson? Is he worth it?
100%
Really?
Yup, Crimson is navy meta
also we need battle reports to continue talking before we get slapped by a mod
Aka
I have nimitz , yuu, nereid , should i replace nimitz to typoon?
Gipsy ex5 instead of Bailos would be a massive combo 
Oh well then use that for now
But get gipsy exc 5 asap huh?
Yup
Bet
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Replace crimson with bailos not akatora
need atk
You need a buffer lol Layla is damage Dec and bailos is buffer then crimson is damage / procs +Hp
ahaahaha
So keep crimson in place of aka. So keep crimson-bailos-layla till i get exc 5 gipsy
Should i replace Seaspray with Crimson?
And this is correct heroes position? Layla on 1st spot?
I think so. Since Crimson does more damage to units affected by a debuff and Layla applies one on her activation
Any reports using Erin,Gipsy and Crimson?
Defense in warzone no exclusive
Or get kot to replace bailos and use gypsy for army
I dont run army. Navy/AF
The march has a little proc luck to it, so dmg can kinda be all over the place somewhat, but not even fully perked navy vs full perked gold equipment army.
Full gold equip?!
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@near hedge
The army is, navy is just purples
Anyone for a report of Crimson - Nimitz - Yuu?
Time to start army ig
Crimson part of the new meta for navy?
yes
yes
Is that your actual March size?
Nah he’s a af hero
Yes
My bad I thought you had all lvl 120 hero’s lol just seen.
Hahaha
I am non spender
So can’t afford Al heroes 5 star
If I’m not a whale and I only have one march can I go shinji, gipsy, crimson instead of Layla,gipsy, crimson because I have shinji 5* excl lvl 5 and he has the same skill as Layla
Layla works better than Shinji if paired with Gipsy and Crimson
Really interesting, I don’t think I will ever be able to upgrade her to get to that point as I am still very weak but thank you for this
You’re doing good bro
Just have only vip 6
What to replace in Aka , Yuu and seasprsy
Aka can be replaced with crimson
2 hp buffers
You keep giving bad info and trolling why is that?
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I’ll admit I troll sometimes most of the time tho I’ve been straight up with things lol
Army Is really good now
Ever time people ask questions not about army you answer mentioning army, as well and saying other non helpful trolling things. Just was wondering if that was on purpose or not?
Exactly
I’m not trying to argue but I would like a example of what you are talking about
Army shinji gipsy rei Is really strong now and you have have 3 4 marches
Gipsy crimson layla Is strong yeah but air and navy arent viable for the low amount of unit imo unless you are whale and if you are you have all 3marches
Look at your last 2 comments dude said he doesn’t do army after you suggested it so you told him to , then dude asked about crimson being a navy hero and he’s clearly is a stronger navy hero and looks to be new meta so you say nope af.
Crimson Is specifically navy but dmg Is all type
So I just was curious if it was just an anti helpful thing you’re doing or what’s the point to go out of the was to not be helpful on a help page for the game
True, but any hero can be used anywhere by that logic, and and he didn’t say anything close to that he said no he’s af.
You Need buffer get gipsy instead of aka
😂 I like how I was helpful for a whole day straight and then I joke around saying crimson is a AF hero and what was the other one to start a army? I mean at this point all universal hero’s go to army when over with on air or navy but now army starts with them and that’s diff lol
Well no like Layla has only navy trigger so strict to navy Crimson can trigger on all type which make his trigger Better but shield hp and heavy armor are only navy
Ok if it was a joke got it, just was wondering. As it wasn’t clear at all it was joking. No biggie
If using encirclement it still works so by that logic all hero’s are universal 😂
Tbh for anyone looking for actual helpful info about hero’s go to wannabe discord or Maymi discord they have actually smart people that understand the mechanics of the game way more then most people in this discord
Lmao
I’m not wrong
Didn’t say you were
Also I agree with your username lol
Ay my man, I’ve had too many posts deleted 😂
Mhh?
If you put encirclement with Layla you lose 2 slot for trigger so her trigger go down from 33 to uh 27(?)
Crimson Will trigger on army and air slot too
Layla and Katyusha lose about 25% if using encirclement, or if they're used on world boss
Yes so thats why they arent universal unlikely gipsy shinji rei 
So kot layla crimson for navy?
Yeah. Some say replace kotiya for gypsy. However it’s all for testing currently
Kot is way better then gypsy on navy
nope
Depends. I would use kotiya against air opponents. Use gypsy against navy and army opponents
Gipsy synergizes with Crimson on an amazing way, both gives vuln at ex5, so Gipsy's damage would increase, and Crimson would get an extra abnormal state for even more damage
From what I’ve seen it’s not enough to offset the difference between kot and gypsy
It's a lot more than enough
The extra vuln would increase the total damage by almost 50% due to the effect of their skills
That’s theoretically tho in actual fights it can be different
Plus that means you have to have the hero’s in the correct order for proper results
I think for a navy main they should stick with kot and for a all forces player they should put gypsy on army instead of navy
I could be completely wrong but this is just based on what I’ve seen
Warzone. Same march on his half. Bailos lvl 5 exc. Gipsy lvl 4 exc
From what I’ve seen normal buff hero’s do better in none army marches but make sure your order of hero’s is right when testing sense order affects procs now
From what I’ve heard Layla should go before crimson
Hmmmmmm. Anyone else confirm this?
Same sense? Layla first. Cuz they did their thing here
They do the same thing but it allows for the hero’s to be more affective from what I’ve heard
Cause it’s the sequence in which they proc that’s affected by order
Ill do some small testing. Unless this is verified by other players before I do.
@nocturne wagon get in here
wut
You understand the sequence thing better then me lol
Yes Layla first, you want the debuff before typhoons turn
layla ct bailos
I had no idea the order you put your hero’s had any impact…. I’m living under a rock I suppose.
Kot sleeeeeepy in this go
Ok I’ll give it a go tomorrow when I have more WZ tickets. Thanks
Sure
I've gotten better results with Layla-Kotiya-Crimson
What about af max kum shin
max shin kum
as long as layla is before crim it probably isn’t a big difference
What about polik op gyp
polik gyp op i think, maybe gyp first
Thank you
polik-shinji-springfield isnt that the best defensive setup?
Well anyone noticed in low trigger rate in crimson
needs atk buffer, maybe gd-spring-shinji or gd-polik-shinji for the setup
Gypsy rei Shinji would be all good . Defensive and offensive 🤔
no
Bob is best buffer in game
@nocturne wagon what should be sequencing for gypsy crimson eyrin..
😂 you did it not me
@lofty current
survival at its finest 😁
All lvl 5 ex except my typhoon is baby 3 right now. Kot went off for them!
hmm no wonder people are sending mixed messages on crimson and even think his heavy armor isn't working lol
if this community actually knew how to play then kotiya's stock would actually still be up for navy.
at least that is if you want to fight air as navy.
then again most air players also dont seem to know what they are doing, so thats why gypsy navy is getting away with it xD
so funny to see this
at least round 1 laser got significantly less brutal, across all IQ levels of players.
Hey if you have insight im all ears man. Here to learn more and try to help others do the same.
you're doing fine, im commenting on the navy vs air reports. Also I don't wanna teach air players to beat navy again haha
Please don’t 😅. You feel Kot is a better play than Gipsy?
in a perfect world where everyone plays optimally and there are no weakening towers, yes kotiya is better in fight scenario's vs air.
But in reality you probably don't need her niche to do well, even against air and especially under towers.
Ah, well I typically can hold my own against most army mains so it’s AF that everyone in my server jumped on that bodies me often.
I’ll work her back in and see what happens. Double heavy armor might be nice, Kot covers the attack buff so I’m good there
Ah, well I appreciate the advice. Kot/Layla/Typhoon?
doesn't matter which variation as long as layla is before typhoon with those 3
Good deal
their order does not influence them overrriding their triggers, it just affects order of skill activations
Ok that makes sense. I’d want the debuff from Layla before typhoon goes
exactly
you want to apply negative status before a trigger that benefits hitting a negative status
actually at lvl 5 exc I would go gypsy over kotiya
Think so? I can swap perks easy enough.
well if you have both already
then I would put gypsy in army
but if you're looking for more universal use and don't have either and decide to make one now, then yes
but as navy main you could also just wait and use whatever atk buffer you still have from the past and just use layla + crim, what happened to shinji>layla could happen to gypsy in june
I have both at lvl 5 ex so it’s a toss up. Gipsy has been doing well though
even then worst that happens is gipsy gets a permanent seat in army or a flex seat in air
gipsy is pretty safe
yeah he is great
I’m which order should I put those heroes?
Gipsy-Mega-OP?
yes
One is with decorations on Island, one without. 1800 war from unicron etc have no influence?!
not on visible stats
👀 what Do you mean?
Bottom left, war, increases with decorations but seems like it has no effect
@peak stag 🇮🇩
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It doesn’t show on the graphic dude…
If you look at 5* max stats it says 50% but look at top descriptions it says 50.2% pretty sure that’s because of your war increase
I'm using yuu aka and bessel
What heroes can i replace them all
Got enough shards to make three 5* heroes
Can anyone help me
Do you have perks built?
Yes
are u deciding to stick to navy, or willing to do other forces ?
Gipsy + Layla + Crimson
These three has max perks
and switch perks ^ if you can get the exclusive level 5 at least for all three, do it
I have maximo prime and selina as second force too
you do realize he need ex5 on all right?
I had saved skill shards too
if navy is your main then I’d suggest shinji gipsy and crim
no Layla cuz you lose encirclement buffs
Why so?
because Layla gip and crim is navy meta right now, and shinji layla has pretty much the same skill set
Layla gives atk debuff and does a lot of damage
Shinji *2
So it's a no, use Gipsy + Layla + Crimson
Do that, Layla also gives atk debuff which further reduces the damage you receive, and as extra the atk debuff gives Crimson even more damage
So Layla crimson gipsy
Better set your navy in def then, because that march did worse if you put encirclement in
What this combo effect the encirclement i didn't understand
Layla loses value the less ships you have, but tbh if your dmg stats are big enough you can skip encirclement
Or just replace aka and bassel with gypsy and crimson....
Layla.might get replacement in 2 months or so
Gypsy crimson and yuu ..for now temperoray
I doubt
Layla on that march is powerful, wb hits with all the ex7 are going to be insane, so i doubt there will be a replacement of her
Slightly better than layla...they might take out the encirclement issue ..
See, Gipsy instead of Kot did better, even although Crimson proced like crazy with Kot
I'm confused with those both combinations
Stats
I can guarantee left is less then right lol 1 star vs 5 star be like
NaVy OvErPoWeReD
Dante ☠️
Layla, Seaspray and Kotiya that is the main line up in Warzone SvS for navy
And you won with level 40’s? Damn bro
man you're using an ancient hero

VIP 11 vs VIP15
Left everything lvl5 excl
Right Prey and Gypsy LvL7
Its my last days winning against him let me enjoy it😂😂
Haven’t you start in 1518? I had a colleague there named Zerocool which disappear at a given point
No I haven’t been to a server that high yet. Started in 3XX and moved to 6XX now 12XX
12××?
1244
Lol ah


That a second or 3rd march
It’s 11.5 perks and ex7 
It's a main? 
Ye
Can you slap him again and again?
Not everyone gets the latest and greatest 🤷♂️

whaling
Anyone have BR of crimson without any support from atk boost hero? Like Crimson - layla - nereid/seaspray
Never mind 😁
you trying to find your mega 7 a new home?
lol yep
Mega still works nice in any march, especially ex7 lul
I'd just run him as the primary atk booster in navy. You're quite flexible to fix the other 2 slots then.
He can work with Gipsy even but I am guessing thats who your meg got subbed out for in army.
I'd go crimson 5 for sure
he applies vulnerable also, good for meg
optimally yes
Thanks again
aint he navy player? his ht is on navy
its pretty obvious he used tanks his army stats are close to yours. But his navy stats are pretty hight for not having the perks is what i am trying to say. 😅
Is it worth upgrading max or he is going to be obsolete as well?
True 😂 but ancient heroes maybe 🤔 lol 🤣
If max gets replaced af will have 2 nasty usable marches lol
Vip6 vs 16 in case anyone still thinks gipsy/mega are meta for some reason
If anyone thinks Rei is even close to meta on navy still, left defending
Crimson is way better then Rei but Rei is still viable for a normal navy that can’t push crimson yet
Probably just testing
Best advice for navy players is if you can’t get newest navy hero’s instantly don’t be navy (from a navy main)
Ya pretty much
100% agree, I m navy main and I m struggling so are other players in my server
Exactly. Navy is for the wallet warriors
Delete it anyone
No

Lotta data. all from the ice-cube mines.
Same opponent for all tests.
This opponent, prior to Crimson would consistently beat my Navy in Trooper v Trooper battles. (we didn't have many No-Trooper matchups)
And yeah, all heroes were with es7
That is super duper Fantastic effort 👌
Max broke the damn game, then they just had to add Hazel and break it even more, Air Force is ridiculously busted and it’s beyond repair since they never nerf heroes. Air Force resists more damage than any other troop with all these damage resistance abilities, but on top of that they had to give him a laser with massive damage AND burn? Then heavy trooper chip set that does more damage to ignited troops? Air Force needs serious nerfs, imo sorry for the rant (navy main
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The solution is not to add more heroes, it’s making other heroes that took a lot of money and/or serious grinding to obtain and upgrade obsolete and no one but the whales can keep up, it’s killing the game and making it not fun at all
what are u talking about, look above, how much biscuits won with his navy against air, once there's no trooper. and in real PvP trooper is dead most of the time. small fish air can no longer beat whale navy, just another small fish navy, which is fair, that's how suppression work.
Yeah but the amount of effort you have to put into navy to make it viable is not good for the average player, whereas I’ve been seeing people just use maximo with any universal hero and they decimate every other earlier combo.
Shoot I’ve been seeing people use mutated Air Force and they still win
And not even just against navy, but against army as well
This was offense too
So you think it was just bad luck?
Yes it was just bad luck, with all triggers you could beat air, also, Katyusha is already extremely outdated on army, with Gipsy (even at 3*) you would destroy that air without problems
Completely agree, navy is the most expensive and totally not worth it imo, I m navy main
I am too… but I was grinding shards, so yeah I’ve been suffering a lot to keep up
I m switching to af lol
No universal heroes can be used on navy except for rei
Mega is ok but not optimal even in last meta, shinji out, prime out, Gipsy okayish. All 3 meta heroes are not universal
people using 2-3 years old meta army and expecting to beat air is not fair
Max is an year old, he is an old hero
left army vs right air
He broke the game and that's why it's a shit show
Max is old but he still provides tremendous damage and resistance in every battle he’s in
left army with mega - gypsy - shinji
No the argument was to not expect great result with old army heroes. Ait has an old hero
without HT max is nothing now and katy in the above is 3 years old tbh
max is the only hero in air from an year back
You replace Katya with an year old hero and you will lose
kum, shinji are recent heroes. max only surviving coz of HT. if no HT trigger by max then GG air. same stats latest meta navy also beating air which is against suppressions
mega is year old
^
Max is only weak against kotiya
Navy had ruled the game for 1.5 years where it thrashed both army and air. back then navy mains didn't have any trouble with balance coz they were winning. suddenly when they started receiving the same treatment they started complaining since 2022 for balance
if someone truly wants balance why don't they ask for reducing the troop count of army from 800+ to 400? 2 marches of army can take out air pretty well and 2 marches of navy takes out 800+ tanks
His trigger rate might have been lowered as I learned from af players
That's the only advantage army has over other unit types
yup. so if someone from navy wants a true balance, ask for army domination for next 1.5 years as both air and navy ruled for 1.5 years now 
That's why they introduces dock space increase skins for navy and that hero for af
in an unbalanced world of top war I see army ruling for next 1.5 years as completely fair 
That's not balance
It's fair I agree but it's not balance
I thought army was gonna become the ultimate defense when Springfield came out, but only disappointment followed
that's why I used 'unbalanced' word. coz navy dominated 1.5 years, air did for 1.5 years or about to. now don't you think army is up for due. only after army dominates for 1.5 years we should have the discussion of balance imo 
Way back when rock came out, I had trouble with that sob ngl
This is my alt so I don’t spend here reason why it’s such a weak account, but my gypsy is 4 * vs his 5*. None of my heroes have an es skill at all his has gyp 3* Kat 7* and Brad 6*. First report def, second offense. I haven’t tested crimson yet but if he’s better than gypsy on navy then he’s gonna be amazing. Before I got gypsy to 4* this was a player who would regularly win on both off and def by min 20% max 70%.
That’s not quite how balance works, creating an unfair advantage for the same amount of time someone else had that unfair advantage doesn’t equal balance. Think of real world situations. People never strive to have things unbalanced in their fair for the same amount of years as a goal of unfair treatment they just want things to be balanced in their current time for fairness. Yeah it sucks but continuing on that path isn’t balance and might even kill the game since people are already fed up with how wildly unbalance af was for so long.
Navy vs army
Unlucky triggers on army, Layla + Gipsy + Seaspray can work as a march
Katyusha and Bradley are extremely outdated
Similar stat navy vs air, (air triggered HT first with maximo + shinji + gypsy xyston chip)
let's make it fair for army and then can even talk about balance was my point. besides some or majority of the navy mains who wants balance now were quiet during old navy times where navy was winning over air. infact they enjoyed it back then too and that's how we got ogre navy meta. also people who wants balance in the game only talk for navy while they keep quiet on buffing army which is very weak against navy despite of having 800 tanks. my point being let's talk as a whole instead of selectively for only navy
If you looked army is getting their time to shine rn
Warzone defense.
hes from november 2021
Have to see more reports of navy with the latest meta against army
Gotta get rid of Kat man. I was having the exact problem before I swapped her out
In this channel you can share battle reports and discuss them, please follow the rules 🙏 and stay respectful with eachother
Crimson over gipsy?
you want Crimson to replace Rei, SeaSpray, Nereid (they are all HP buffers with proc dmg)
You may want Gipsy to replace Kotiya, Nemo, Bailos, etc.. (they are all ATK buggers)
Gipsy + Crimson is notably good.
But Kotiya's Silence certainly keeps her high value in navy if you are otherwise planning to keep Gipsy on air.
Can I replace katysuha with gipsy? And does gipsy work with megatron?
Yes
The age of navy was kinda done when Amelia first came out and army finally have an atk buffer paired with the best trigger hero at the time (Kat) who can fight toe to toe with navy. I still recall being inspired by one guy in my server who for the longest time stuck with army while being bullied by navy. Finally his time came and his army became a formidable opponent. And because of the unit quantity advantage of army, I followed his footsteps and converted to main army. It was fun especially when Ben first came out during EL…I still recall all the navy amazed when my Ben army melted them. The golden age of army lasted a few months until 914 came out to hard counter army. After that army went downhill and finally the age of Air started with Maximo where I converted to main Air. Air definitely dominated everything for a while until the Transformers came and army became a lot more formidable where army can have a chance to win against navy.
Thnx
Springfield Polik and Gypsy who has tested against other meta lines?
Some big boys using that line
good, can someone recommend me a hero to change my bassel and put it with Akatora, Yu ?
Gypsy
Crimson
Need to replace aka though
Yea probably crimson for aka
You need an atk booster
I think the combination of Koli Aka U will hit more
Aka crimson basil🤔
Yu Basel crimson
Yes
It's not a very interesting combination actually
Then who should go in place for bassel?
But if aka you are a gypsy
Thanks bro ❤️
Gypsy makes the front row very strong, at the level of Basel and is good for Akatura
Try yuu,crimson,bassel
Now your composition does not have a champion to give strength to the composition
Please definitely try the Aka yuu Gypsy mix
🫠
Ook bro
I will never recommend crimson to you
Can someone explain why Skill is being triggered so much and why Hero Perk is so high for the opponent.
Are u in a brand new server?
His hero perk is higher cause he has more perks than u
Yes new server, Opponent has Capital position for Airforce, but I'm still not able to understand how he's winning or why his skill is triggered so often. It's like this almost every attack or defense
I have a suggestion for you to upgrade the heroes that are durable like Megatron Shinji Optimus Maximo Gypsy
@manic lantern Because if you do this, you can use them later for other combinations
I myself have Megatron 120 Shinji 120 Optimus 120 Maximo 120 Gypsy 60
I use air and sea. Later, when I want to make Army, I can use some of the heroes I mentioned for that combination without any problem.
Would this trigger hero skills more too or am I missing something else? Passive Hero skill, decor, statue
Was this attack or defense?
Looks like he wiped out a few of your troops before they got a chance to hit back so by the time your ability triggered it triggered on a damaged unit that made your hero ability do less damage
Definitely did, it was an attack
I'm not familiar with HT. Beat him every where but two perks and he had 6 more units
The heavy trooper
Hero triggers are random sometimes I get alot sometimes none... this whole game is like walking into a casino with 10grand and hoping to walk out with 20grand but u walk out drunk with ur last 100 dollar bill
Was there a weakening tower nearby?
Server is only 3 weeks old. I cannot say if he had HT, no towers yet
Both of you attacked very few times, so it was a quick battle, I’m guessing his ability just activated before yours but even so that’s a lot of damage for him to do if you had the type advantage
Yeah it is, and if you break it down he's still hitting 250B more but that's likely the All Attack perk
250B more if trigger was even
Perks aside your suppression should have evened that out a bit I would think
His skills trigger like that 4 of 5 attacks. I thought that about suppression too beat him on everyone
Not my account though either, friend is new to the game and discord
Besides that we’d need to see the other stats, like dmg+ and dmg- and what skins were being used etc
These guys are Vip 10 or 11 by now
Lol this is my argument with Air Force, they take less damage from army than navy takes from Air Force
I'd burn my money if I had theirs
Get shinji in your march
When you can slap together any Air heroes and they just beat navy marches just cause they are air
Attack or defense
Defense
He's using Tanks against Air, he just hasn't focused on perks
Those are wild Match ups though
Sinner do you have enough to get shinji in your march?
This one is defense too, and navy HT went first
When would Shinji become available
That's his real main. Pretty sure both are 10 or 11. Pretty much neck in neck race to lvl 80
Did you go into a old server?
First hero event was PacificRim
Woweee
Lmao
I don't know anything about that
Server is 3 weeks old
Both are brand new to the game
Ben just became available today
Well air is the new navy
Does all the damage and takes none in return unless your stats are twice that of your opponent
Even for FTP? I'm VIP 8 so not much spent But I'm focusing Navy. Been almost 2 years since I played
Is Airforce vs Airforce viable?
Yes
Thanks everyone.
Earlier we discussed that navy is still very powerful but is one, if not the most expensive unit class to invest into if you want to keep up with Air Force
Yall crazy
3 weeks old a vip 8+
Im only vip 9 almost 3 years played
He may just switch up to Air. And run some tests in warzone
These guys are running enough for mortgage downpaymen through the game
What server?
That’s tuff. Vip 10 unlocks so much. Also how many decor sets you got…
Decor sets...
I only get vit speed up
I can show you index
In dms If you'd like
Not bad. You technically could be vip 9 with all decor sets if you were dedicated enough lol
2827
Your the top guy there👀
I mean in cp
👉👀👈
🔪
Yoooo, someone have a report of Rei and crimson in a battle to compare ?
How could this be reasonable? He has two 1-star champions and a 3-star champion, and he beats me!!!
because his heros are wayy better, and your march is just bad.
look at the dmg dealt and watch the report
Can someone tell me best heores to use for attack these monsters?
Your strongest march with world boss components.
Thanks but i saw for the first monster it was better to use the new hero Gipsy or is it not?
If you made him 5 star, es5, have perks on him, he's great. If he's just 1 star, then he's not that good. It depends what you have, what is your strongest march, where you have perks, if you have them etc
I am air use maximo selina and shinji ( all full perk) gipsy is on 4 star
Stick to your air march.
Ok thank you 😇
Wait would gipsy be good for airforce if i make him 5 star and 5 lvl skill amd replace him with Selina 🤔?
If you make him 5 ⭐, he would be much better than Maximo though, Maximo isn't that good against world boss and similar targets, gypsy is great.
Good for world boss, droid and similar targets are: Gypsy, Megatron, Shinji, Erinyes, Crimson, Layla... (not necessarily in this order)
It's better to go with Kum, Gypsy gives double boost to front not middle row
I have 142 and he has 91
Experienced people, please explain this to me
compare the stats @hardy frigate plus your skills are kinda off
your march lacks of hp and indestructible buff (which the navy guy has). He is probably a decent player also, thats roughly 160 ms at max compared to yours. My guessing is that you two have equal (maybe the guy has higher stats). Your heros did baby dmg, and is oudated asf
Shinji Megatron Gypsy
Can you post the stats please
Atk speed on HT is also very reasonable if he got only 0.1% more atk speed you fckd xD
hi
Interesting march lol
Thx
Your heroes did baby DMG and bumblebee really 🤣
Don't be mean😭
I'm training in the hero Gypsy, now I'm level 100
Then use Gipsy immediately, at 1* he's already better than Bumblebee
not true, bumblebee op with ex 10 nd lvl 10 skills
Glass cannon vs glass cannon 
Try without ht also
Can gipsy successfully replace crimson on ships, what's your opinion?
No, gypsy replaces Kotiya on navy, or other ATK buffer
Tx
Hello everyone
Should make some change ? Megatron/op/Springfield, replacing who and why ? If some wiseman has some advice for me in ready to hear 👂
Id replace polik with spring, even tho in that report polik is the carrier 😂
🤘
id u want u can replace polik for rei, definitely not for spring, but eh not worth it, polik and rei are about equal.
👏👏👏
I wouldn’t change the hero’s here at all.
Don't use gypsy on navy
with & without max on air paired with gypsy
Its crazy how op mega was when he dropped compared to mega 2.0
Gyp is crazy.. thats with it at L6 it's 7 now gatta wait 3 days to test vs af😑
100% unbuffed hit with L7.. last 1 was buffed and crossbuffed with 1 other set
You guys said gyp isn’t good on navy? I have Erin AK and Bailos (Yuu on standby) I don’t know if I should go for gyp or crim cause if I take out bailos I won’t have buffs, but I’m guessing gyp would fill that roll cause crim doesn’t buff attack besides the stats effect from AK or Yuu
Not only that but I think gyp would have done good with AK since he gets the ability with his full rage on the first unit plus the 160% buff from gyp in first row
Gipsy doesn’t get buffed from aka
I know, with gyp he’d buff ak,
But with crim the only buff I’d get in damage would be from AK attack debuff, cause crim does more damage to debuffed units
Anyone tested crimson on skill level 7 yet?
gipsy is amazing on navy IF paired with Crimson.
Yes Crimson7 is great. See these report summaries:
https://discordapp.com/channels/648871024250716180/910740678399639572/1095220305175257198
- My opponent dominated my older march of Kotiya7/SeaSpray7/Layla7
- Crimson does a ton for survival against air (even when you lose the attack speed race). Easily replaces SeaSpray or Rei on navy imo.
The odd thing though is Gipsy vs Kotiya.
Prior to Crimson, i did quite a bit of testing to compare: Kotiya7/SeaSpray7/Layla7 vs Gipsy7/SeaSpray7/Layla7
It was not close, Kotiya was superior. (and by that i mean from actual testing using the Energy Veins - not all the on-paper arguments we see on this channel so often)
But when Crimson is in the mix, as is evident in the reports i link above, Gipsy seems to more consistently hit harder, have an equal winrate, and likely will do better in real SvS scenarios where Kotiya is not so good (under weakening).
But the key was Crimson. That's the money maker IMO
In rei/koti/erin march, Is it worth upgrading rei to crimson without layla or better to wait?
So would you recommend upgrading crimson or gypsi first? My other 5* are Yuu Erin AK and Bailos
Do crimson, if you can have his ex5 also then that’s great. Run erin crim bail meanwhile
Interesting, alright I’ll try it
Here you go. All lvl 5 exclusives both sides. Everything else is lvl 7s for skills. Both are full buffed.
I also have this combination and it is very active but mine is on navy
That’s an inactive max 
Mega lvl5 Exclusive vs gypsy lvl3 Exclusive!! Which one is better for army or navy?
100% sure army is stronger than AF quite a lot, even not considering the unit advantage yet. With almost same stat, to offset the difference, AF need to use 2 lvl higher units.
gypsy
Because it has 2 strokes, it has more activity and is stronger
Which combo 😂
Tell me about it 😂
Megatron Shinji Gypsy😁😁😁
😜
I bet you do damage with that combo 😂
His army is all 7s exclusives included.
😂😂😂
I try sometimes 😂
I think you lost 😂😂
Shît 😂
I mean the mega army is stronger than mega AF, sth like Polik/Shinjin/Gipsy…having done testing before, about 30 hits…(Almost identical stat:ATK/HP/DMG+-/Def/March size/ATK speed AF>Army).
For your air force you can try Maximo Gypsy and Shinji
Or try Kum Maximo Gypsy
I refuse. Shinji is overpowered
Shinji and airforce is like hamburgers and beer. You just don’t change it
Try, friend, there is nothing wrong with trying, it doesn't have to be level 120
So you guys agree that crim is better to use than gypsi if the other 2 heroes are Erin Ak Bailos or Yuu?
Crimson is better, yes. Aka still decent bro. Try to get Layla or Shinji tho
Just move him over to tank
but where does prime go
Who you got for a tank March?
prime gipsy and polik currently
seems to be working wonders


