Panasonic 3DO

[distant grove]

Plus the amount of hands that have been on the library... I can safely say if the core is based off of any madam and clip chipset, it will play just like any other fz1 3do system.

Worst case scenario: srg doesn't get the ram issue squared completely and has to have modifications per game basis, there is only 300 games in the library, most of which work fine. The only thing to worry about after that is per game basis for any homebrew to come out from here on

[dawn raft]

Does that mean that the 3DO was ahead of it's time?

[fossil sorrel]

A truly beautiful thing... is never perfect.

https://tenor.com/view/pai-mei-kill-bill-im-waiting-gif-13608076

[distant grove]

We have those btw

[distant grove]

Yes. I don't think another gaming console had something like that for a while.

[dawn raft]

How does it's approach differ from the CDi? I honestly think the two are kinda similar in that they're both systems that emphasized multimedia and were designed from the start to be a multi-vendor platform

[untold fog]

Yeah, that and several other reasons are why I stopped reading Time Extension. The second commenent says it best "this is a hair trigger response to seeing "ai" and dismissing it out of hand.", I have seen people that the second they see the word "AI" regardless of usage or context instantly hate anything even remotely associated with what it was used in. I have my issues with it as well, but I don't just blindly hate any and every aspect of it.

[dawn raft]

This may be wildly ambitious, but maybe we should do our own retro-gaming journalism

[untold fog]

Was there any differences in the way games worked between models though? Many consoles in the past have had revisions but they rarely had an effect on the game still functioning 100% the same, even when you do stuff to break/glitch the game, they generally glitch in the exact same way with the exact same set of inputs.

[untold fog]

Meh, I think most of us are too busy playing/working on the mister to bother writing fluff retro articles, also, this feels like a xkcd situation

Just replace standard with retro gaming site

[dawn raft]

In that case can someone point to a site that's Timeextension but better?

[untold fog]

Awww, but the FZ-10 bios is funny! It has all those silly bouncing CDs! ||And a built-in memory manager||

[covert wagon]

Yeah that was quite the article; its foundation was a random tweet nobody interacted with. And then I’ve gotta hear about it on my end. Must have been a real slow news day if a random sentence on Twitter gets an article 🤣

[covert wagon]

2026 is the year of performative outrage and “gotcha” and people are climbing over each other to be the first to be angry and then the angriest amongst everyone else. They base their identity around “outrage” and self worth around how many things they told internet strangers were terrible this week

[dire sinew]

Hello do u know if this core will be 100% accurate on the de25 thx in advance

[covert wagon]

Speak for yourself haha

[covert wagon]

“DE25 can’t run 100% accurate 3DO core. We asked AI. Also AI is Evil” the article writes itself

[dire sinew]

How can you tell if someone hates AI?

They tell you

over

and

over

and

over

[gloomy flint]

IIRC, there’s instances of games having issues, but on later hardware and not the FZ-1

[gloomy flint]

They’re a bunch of copycats. I been a hater for most of my life, for good reason too. Kinda what happens when over and over people shit on your facts and truths that you tell, only for them to turn around and act like it was theirs the entire time with no apologies given for how they treated you. Comes with the territory. Now people are just mad to be mad. What they don’t understand is that I’m usually nice most of the time. That’s the key.

[covert wagon]

It’s getting worse lately. Every MiSTer video is met with some kind of anger. Or accusations of lying. Now the “mister isn’t accurate. Just use a 3DO emulator. You are scamming people” comments are coming in

What’s the scam? I haven’t found the juice from the squeeze yet

[gloomy flint]

When MiSTer is already better because it’s emulating at a hardware level.

[covert wagon]

It’s exhausting. Nothing can be fun any more. A large percentage of FPGA commenters now just insist it’s all a cash generating scam or some 1-900 level fraud

[ionic plank]

Need to at least get shill money from sorg if you’re gonna be accused of shilling

[dire sinew]

I think you're too lost in the sauce. The world is not youtube comments - and thank god

[gloomy flint]

When they themselves ARE the scam. Like most of these so called “influencers”. They only pretend to care about the things they make videos about just to get subs to their Patreons and OnlyFans accounts. Like what Retro Gaming and Pokemon card collecting is now.

[covert wagon]

lol yes I know. But the general retro consensus online is everything is the worst ever. And don’t forget retro IS online

[covert wagon]

At least my 3DO credibility is undisputed 🤣 I’ve been a moron who loves it for forever

[gloomy flint]

Like a wanna be porn star doing Fortnite videos and Pokemon card openings while linking to their OnlyFans.

[dire sinew]

see, but I don't think that is even true. Like, we have 17k people on this server. How many people are in your youtube comments?

[gloomy flint]

Like do they not understand that children watch this shit?

[dire sinew]

and then how many people don't even pay attention and just have a mister because someone told them it played snes good on their tv

[covert wagon]

It plays Mario!

[dire sinew]

he jump and say wahoo

[gloomy flint]

Same here. Been a fan of really all things home media. At one point I had literally everything home video wise save for VHD.

[covert wagon]

Damn it now how am I going to roll out my onlyfans?

[gloomy flint]

There’s other stuff that hasn’t been tainted yet. Like sports, or ASMR….

You could talk about sports while showing your crack

[covert wagon]

lol I already worked in sports. ASMR creeps me out

[gloomy flint]

ASMR puts me to sleep depending on what it is. Like water noises and things like that are good for me

[untold fog]

I see, how common is that? IIRC there are some early Famicom games that have issues on the NES, but other than that, I believe like 99.99% of famicom and NES games run the same across all revisions

[gloomy flint]

I’m not sure. It’s what I’ve heard. Never owned any other 3DO than an FZ-1

[distant grove]

Cdi is a lot less involved and inferior hardware. 3do was designed for gaming, with multimedia as a strong suit. CDi was designed for multimedia, and gaming as an after thought.

[distant grove]

Posted about this above

[gloomy flint]

Which is why it’s great for business as a training tool, or as an interactive kiosk. Also great for education as IIRC, CD-i units were cheaper than PC’s

[distant grove]

Here

[untold fog]

Was there even a way to play CD-I games that used the MPEG card before the mister core? I think support was added to a software emulator recently but IIRC no software emulator supported it until the mister CD-I core did. And people act like the mister is like Nesticle or ZSNES just because it's not 100% accurate. Mind you, I would prefer NES core-level accuracy and think that should be attempted when possible instead of having a game "just run" like the ZSNES days, but to act like if you don't have that you have nothing is disingenuous.

They will see, they will all see once we have gamecom, or nuon, or hyperscan support! MWAH HA HA HA HA!

[distant grove]

And it's not a hardware compatibility issue, it's simply that OS occupies too much ram in the ANVIL systems

[dawn raft]

I honestly think it's projection. People who are invested in single-core clone consoles or have a large retro collection that can be replaced with an SD card

[untold fog]

https://tenor.com/view/bobs-burgers-louise-laughing-crazy-hell-hath-no-fury-gif-4994261710691180401

[untold fog]

Yup, I see that a lot. Dosen't help that it's an enthausist device that I admit most people would probably be ok with an actual Pi or something and not care about the accuracy, but to say it's a scam or just trying to sell a product? We aren't the SuperSEGA here 😛

[gloomy flint]

Because then their collection is worthless in the grand scheme of things and they lose their bragging rights. A lot of those people have such low self esteem that they need things like that to feel important. And it’s sad.

[dawn raft]

It's funny really. If you wanna collect something gaming-related that can't be replaced by emulation, just buy old Prima Guides. The experience of a PDF scan is not the same

[tiny marsh]

MiSTer is the best console out there tbh

[gloomy flint]

Who’s LITERALLY coming back with another scam….

[untold fog]

... what?

Who can trust him after that?

[gloomy flint]

Especially Dual RAM ones

[gloomy flint]

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2026/04/random-the-guy-behind-the-disasterous-supersega-is-back-and-he-wants-to-sell-you-a-wooden-pc

[distant grove]

@gloomy flint Hard to tell if you saw this since it got buried so quickly lol

[gloomy flint]

Yep, seen that earlier but was just waking up so my brain wasn’t braining yet

[tribal sandal]

Probably a dumb question but does Srg320 have a 3DO console? or is he making the core based on documents and emulation progress?

[untold fog]

It's... it's four pieces of wood arranged in a square...

[dawn raft]

Slope's Game Room did a deep dive on this guy and his online presence is weird

[distant grove]

He gave one of the outlets a picture to post of him probing a 3do system

[gloomy flint]

Yup.

[tribal sandal]

I thought he must have a console but I wasn’t sure, the 3DO is definitely a difficult task to recreate. Hopefully those chip scans you had done get released.

[distant grove]

Its unfortunate there wasn't more CDi units in classrooms. A lot of us would have had more fond memories playing it on days when it was storming during recess.

[distant grove]

I hope so too. I still haven't heard back from the guy

Just to prove I'm not bullshitting, here is a few pictures sent to me of the chips

There is a scan of anvil floating around the internet somewhere. But I don't know if it was completed.

[forest lichen]

there is more 😛

[covert wagon]

Haha so now I can use my flight stick on MiSTer. And be the only one who probably ever does it. Love it!

[turbid glade]

I see too quicker on my side need to wait next time ^^

[fair wave]

woo new pll for video clock

[rich willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301552920017240094/1404135994286014484/Panasonic_00745-004-02_3DO_Anvil_rev4s.jpg?ex=69dfb98c&is=69de680c&hm=c8c1e0243151144dafc1bd5e2934a053c381dff35e1488cfce4c30cfadf2a77f&

I believe this is Anvil chip.

It’s from silicon porn discord

[distant grove]

Yeah I think so too

What used to irritate me was when you correct someone on how much is known about how the 3do works and many people would be like "well I looked on Google and didn't see much" yeah... You're yapping about how obscure a system is then surprised when Google doesnt give you answers you're looking for as a sponsored result lol

[forest lichen]

@crisp zealot it's my build or pause menu is broken in Need for Speed?

Sometimes is ok

Sometimes looks like here

[grim goblet]

I'm getting it too, changes everytime I reset the core

[forest lichen]

everything else is ok

[forest lichen]

Thank you for the confirmation

[crisp zealot]

Maybe it's a regression. You can't do without it.

[forest lichen]

Sure, I totally get it, I just wanted to double-check if that's okay 🙂

[marble jetty]

I use arch btw

[marble jetty]

Do I peen this?

[real rapids]

OMG another build already!? Time to get testing!

[forest lichen]

It's up to you; the core is working fine

[marble jetty]

I have peeeem’d this

[forest lichen]

ok, there was one more commit

[real rapids]

The flashing colors in Need for Speed seem to be fixed, but now there's a massive black box in the sky!

[grim goblet]

Immercenary has some new graphical artifacts on the right side of the screen in todays core.

[real rapids]

Oh weird, I tried the City and Coastal courses and they were fine. But then booted up the Alpine course again (the one that had the black box in the sky), and now it's also fine? That'll be a weird one to diagnose!

Did a cold reboot and tried it again, and the black box isn't showing up anymore. There are still some small boxes that appear on the opponent's car at the start of the race though, but that was there in the previous builds too.

[grim goblet]

The Eye of Typhoon now freezes trying to get into the main menu, game is now unplayable in todays core.

[ashen palm]

I can't get my controller to work, so may be related

[grim goblet]

Go into inputs and enable it, it turned off in this update

[real rapids]

PGA Tour now shows the swing gauge, but it's really glitchy looking and still not really playable.

Not seeing the glitching backgrounds anymore in Samsho.

[covert wagon]

portal to the backrooms

[real rapids]

Actually downgrading Need for Speed to "Boots" on the sheet, because in more testing, the game is crashing pretty often during a race now, which never happened in previous core builds.

Just not really playable in a meaningful way.

[untold fog]

Weren't the graphics very broken even in normal gameplay in Need for Speed? Or was that part fixed in the latest unstable?

[real rapids]

Most of the graphics are fixed (but not all of it). But game crashes a lot now and there are still some graphical bugs.

[untold fog]

I see, well, the core is still early, it's amazing how far it got so quickly in the first place

[zenith dragon]

Gamepad isn’t working for me anymore with the today’s build. Already tried to remap it but no changes.
Found it: I need to change the input option to “pad 1” and now it is working again

[golden schooner]

do you use Arch?

[tribal sandal]

I see a regression in Road Rash the graphics are missing slightly on the side, this is on pacific highway stage

[grim goblet]

aye, I'm seeing the same glitches in Immercenary and Lucienne's Quest

[tribal sandal]

Seems like the graphic issues in Super Sf2 Turbo (Europe) are fixed on the select screen. No issues found in Pal or Ntsc mode, although in Pal mode the screen is not centered in the middle but at the top. Strangely if i manually load panafz10e-anvil bios with this game in pal mode the screen is centered so i guess its a pal/ntsc bios thing.

[real rapids]

Forgot to mention that this is also visible in Need for Speed.

Definitely some regressions with this build, but that's the nature of core development! Fix some things, and others will likely regress until the fixes gradually overtake the regressions over time.

[astral nova]

AFAICT the slowdown in the Mortal Kombat II port has been resolved in the newest core. I'm still awful at the game, but certain levels no longer play like the characters are underwater. Edit: Maybe a little bit of slowdown is left, but not nearly as much.

[crisp zealot]

The graphical glitches will be fixed over time; that's not a problem. I'm more interested in the slowdown in other games.

I'm talking about slowdowns that are clearly noticeable. The ones described in the test sheet.

[ember seal]

is PSX the only core with an fps counter?

[fresh nymph]

N64 too, right?

[ember seal]

oh yeah that sounds right

[crisp zealot]

And what should you compare FPS to?

[low drift]

Different versions of the core I guess, nothing to do with real hardware or emulation 😅

[crisp zealot]

How can we figure out which version is correct?😀

Powerslide and OpenLara have a built-in FPS.

[tribal sandal]

Is it possible to use a different bios per game like on the Saturn core? By that I mean putting a bios file in the games folder. This could be useful for pal games so that the screen is centred when running at 50hz

[crisp zealot]

Yes. Place the cd_bios.rom file in the game folder or the parent folder (for example, EU).

[tribal sandal]

Thanks I will do that later

[crisp zealot]

Currently, two BIOS versions are automatically detected: Panasonic FZ-1 (E) and Panasonic FZ-1 (E) (unencrypted).

The BIOS for ANVIL has not been added because the ANVIL chip is not yet supported.

[fossil sorrel]

I judge core performance by my own subjective metric which is, in this case, to say that the 3DO core feels like surfing a giant wave of nostalgic fun beneath an aurora borealis of magical whimsy.

[slow python]

What’s your favourite 3do exclusive

[fossil sorrel]

CPU BACH!!!

[slow python]

Don’t laugh! It’s an earnest question 😭

[fossil sorrel]

That's that despicable Doyle again

He won't get away with this!!!

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-daffy-duck-angry-mad-this-is-preposterous-gif-5663916

[weak hound]

What’s up, doc?

[distant grove]

Real!!

[little laurel]

Homebrew game in the works for the 3DO.
https://bsky.app/profile/goldenageturbo.bsky.social/post/3mjjrc6jvfc2n

(@goldenageturbo.bsky.social)

Crash fixed. Next vertex colors. #3DO doesn’t support that nor untext quads, to get around it the exporter now iterates through the model vertex colors, picks the most prominent 16, & creates a texture, quads later on index the first pixel of a row with the closest color

#retrogaming #indiedev

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[distant grove]

I think his renderer will have to be reworked with more LOD. I saw a few of the older builds for 3do and they were even slower than that.

But it's more than possible to get it at a good frame rate with a good lod system

Also 3do does support untextured quads

Regardless, the game looks pretty cool. Definitely a daunting task to set a goal as big as porting it to every retro system, including the ones that are as limited as the 3do in the 3d department.

[little laurel]

Yeah, I noticed they are targeting the PS1, N64, Saturn and Dreamcast as well.

[distant grove]

I think their port to those handful are nearly done. The 3do will require extra time. It's just how it is unfortunately

[dire sinew]

is there a meaningful difference between the regular and unencrypted bios (for our purposes)?

[covert wagon]

not that I am aware of. One just removes RSA checks

I dont think there is anything else of interest to it

[visual sonnet]

1. AD&D Slayer 2. Immercenary 3. AD&D Deathkeep

[crisp zealot]

This only makes sense for dynamic video. For example, game Killing Time switches frame buffers every 6 video frames. If you stand still in an empty room, the same image will be updated every 6 video frames, but the video will appear to be unchanging.

[timid mason]

3DO

[crisp zealot]

I can use LA to determine the time between the start of rendering a new frame on the original hardware. I can also calculate the same thing in the core using SignalTap and compare the results. That's exactly what I'm doing.

[slow python]

Surely “3DO 3DO” is the appropriate name for this thread

[crisp zealot]

Yes. But you'll have to wait a long time.

[sharp pendant]

Is there a preferred one and has this changed since the one recommended before was added to the BIOS DB?

[dire sinew]

Thats the europe only bios I think. i was trying to suss out if it goes in /games/3DO/ as like boot1, but I’m not home to test

[sharp pendant]

Ah OK, maybe we leave what is in the BIOS DB for now then

[crisp zealot]

I can't say for sure. I haven't researched the differences between them. I chose the FZ-1 BIOS because that's the specific console I'm using for my research. If I understand correctly, the FZ-10 is used with consoles based on the ANVIL chip. This chip has some differences in its registers compared to MADAM/CLIO. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[sharp pendant]

I guess if you are able down the line to skip the RSA check so unencrypted ROMs can load on any BIOS then it probably doesn't matter what version is in there to get everything booting, but I am not the expert here, maybe some things work differently on different systems

[crisp zealot]

This isn't a top priority. I'll get around to it eventually. If anyone knows more about this, feel free to make changes to the core at any time. I'd appreciate it.

[sharp pendant]

I don't suspect anyone who knows can write VHDL, but in the meantime we can mark on the sheet which don't boot (presumably) because they are unencrypted. It seems to be the Warner Music disc and a load of demo and beta versions of things that for the most part there are final release versions of.

[true sentinel]

Thanks for the release.
Unfortunately, this build, in my case, doesn't recognize input from either the keyboard or my BT controller.
Input devices are fine, the main menu and OSD function correctly.
The previous version from April 9th ​​didn't have this issue.

[forest lichen]

change input

core - menu - input - 1

[true sentinel]

Done! much appreciated

[timid mason]

Panasonic 3DO

okay ill compromise

[tropic basin]

Panasonic 3DO & Knuckles

[distant grove]

Fz10 used Madam/Clio in 1994 and switched to Anvil in later 1995 models

https://archive3do.com/retail-panasonic-fz-10/

Madam and Clio models:
FZ1
1994 FZ10
Early 1995 FZ10
GDO-101
Sanyo TRY
Creative Blaster

Anvil models:
Mid-late 1995 FZ10
GDO-202
GDO-203

[covert wagon]

if only it was Miss and Clio

[dire sinew]

Hi, long time, first time - I have a dumb question: Now that it supports the EU bios, are we looking at a boot0.rom and boot1.rom situation? or do I just drop the EU bios into the Europe folder as cd_bios.rom and call it a day?

[dire sinew]

This is included in your build, yeah?

[forest lichen]

Met timings

[crisp zealot]

Yes. Place the cd_bios.rom file in the game folder or the parent folder (for example, EU).

[gloomy flint]

So I hear this place could use more Anvil

[tropic basin]

Is that Jim "The 3DO" Neidhart?

[gloomy flint]

Yes it is!

Either that or one of the guys from ZZ Top decided to become a wrestler

[tropic basin]

https://youtu.be/bLHL75H_VEM

[marble jetty]

pins updated

[restive oasis]

trip hawkins got snubbed

[spark tiger]

I don't get it: What exactly do we need now for both PAL and NTSC in the game folder? I have boot.rom for NTSC and a PAL BIOS renamed to cd_bios.rom. But then the screen flashes like hell, when the Region is either set to "BIOS" or "NTSC". PAL is fine then.

[spark tiger]

Ah, you need the correct PAL bios file.

panafz1e.bin = md5:ba3eda87fde9bd7f09c2b9db3dbb9887

[silent oak]

happy to confirm there's no junk on the right in KT

there's another thing I'll see right now - the ending FMV was wobbly on the previous release

no, there's still odd wobble and artifacting (but the opening and every ghost FMV is fine)

... I can give you a save file, but you need to do the entire rigamarole with the clocks - activate all vessels at once, pick up white vessel and activate them all again to make it easy

...and the demo playbacks are pretty different

[covert wagon]

the best ending for that game...a true fuck you

[silent oak]

the godess is free

the good ending in PC version isn't much better to be honest

with the protag filling in the greed aesop in a funny way

[fiery torrent]

Just tried the 3DO core for the first time on my SuperStation One, and wow, blown away. It seems perfect so far, but then I haven't played a 3DO in decades. I did used to own the original Panasonic one back in the day so this brings back some memories. Road Rash!

[marble jetty]

Basically only real 3DO fans own a MiSTer

[ionic plank]

And only R•E•A•L mister fans own a 3DO

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-salmon-salmon-eating-salmon-salmon-ai-gif-210389740582468737

[grand nest]

Probably a daft question but is there a SNAC adapter for 3DO yet?

[ionic plank]

I don’t think the core supports SNAC yet but 3DO uses the same connector as the mega drive

So technically yes

Reflex Adapt supports 3DO controllers that way

[covert wagon]

it is nice Adapt can handle the pinout internally

[silent oak]

does that include audio jack functionality?

[ionic plank]

Dunno, but probably not

Does support daisy chaining though

[empty valley]

I’m hoping adding more than 2 controller support is easier than a traditional multitap

[silent oak]

you can daisy chain up to 6 controllers for two games

[empty valley]

Games with more than 2 playrers for 3DO afaik:
4P:
-PaTaank
-Twisted - The Game Show
-Wicked 18
-Zhadnost - The People's Party
5P
-Club 3DO: Station Invasion
6P
-FiFA International Soccer
8P:
-Decathlon
-Olympic Summer Games: Atlanta 1996
-Perfect General, The

[distant grove]

Japanese Win95 Decathlon isn't real it can't hurt you

Japanese Win95 Decathlon:

[silent oak]

okay, remind me

what do I have to do to avoid this?

[velvet geyser]

i remember playing Return Fire at the house of one of my parents employers.

the part where both controllers had independent headphone audio blew me away

it made sense that day why only a manager type could afford that console

[distant grove]

Yeah first 8 months retail price of a 3do was pretty high lol

[velvet geyser]

eventually, he gave it away to my father for a slab of beer

after playing it for about eight months, I understood why he gave it away

[distant grove]

Buddy didn't know what he was missing out on trading it for beer

[velvet geyser]

he gave us the magazines, demo discs and everything for it

I was made to trade in alone in the dark, ‘cause it gave my little brother night terrors

[silent oak]

not me

this track is iconic AitD tune to me

[fair wave]

For testing with composite that wants free dot crawl look, drop this in the yc.txt 3DO_59.8=80173391500

[distant grove]

Haha nice

[silent oak]

the night terrors

[gloomy flint]

Somewhere, some kooky modern art collector has these in their collection. Would fit right into something like that even if they never played the game.

[velvet geyser]

Not Alone in a Well Lit Place

in fact, was there any location in the first game that was truly dark? I’ve never got too far through it.

[silent oak]

the caves

if you didn't pick up the lantern on the very first screen of the game you're screwed

[velvet geyser]

gotta make that helpline money

[silent oak]

to be fair that object stands out and you immediately pick it up on contact so it's not like ghost head samurai armor-tier bullshit

[velvet geyser]

the hairpin lockpick in Dark Seed

[tawny rover]

Where did you learn to fly?

[spiral thorn]

Those lips 🥵

[fossil sorrel]

Hmmm...

Nobody posting here last hour or two...

Might be a good time for me to post something about CPU Bach!

https://i.imgflip.com/9t915r.jpg

[storm moth]

Who has the high score in cpu bach?

[distant grove]

Me

https://youtu.be/cW7c43N3pr4?si=VOBwfn7m2jUussSc

[north lynx]

I know it's a hack, but in the single sdram release, that mk2 hack runs suuuuuper slow

But in the dual sdram release, player 2 controller wouldn't function

Oh I see someone said the newest release should fix that?

[marble jetty]

Core is still super early so probably a ton of stuff not working right. It’ll get there though.

[north lynx]

I'll need to see which version I have

Looks like I have the release from April 2nd. I'll look for a newer and give it a shot. I know before the single sdram version came out, it ran fine

[real rapids]

The dual ram core is out of date and will not be updated going forward.

[marble jetty]

Yeah I even removed it from the pins

TAKE THAT DUAL RAM SICKOS

[hollow cloak]

I bought the extra ram stick the day the core came out. It arrived the day after the single ram build came out.

[storm moth]

Now you can play atari jaguar tho

[marble jetty]

lol I got a middle finger

fine I’ll keep my opinions to myself!!!

[hollow cloak]

I have been running single ram jaguar core and it works fine

Maybe when the next impossible core comes out

[real rapids]

Why are we hated so much for helping with information!?

[signal mango]

I never used dual ram

Didn't even consider it

[weak hound]

Me either. But I also didn’t use single ram

Which is still more ram than Archive3DO. Archive3DNoMiSTer

Someone send him a MiSTer so he can finally play 3DO

[signal mango]

Time to put away his toys

[gloomy flint]

Probably because Dual RAM is the best and they hated you for insulting it?

[wary matrix]

Saw a 3DO FZ-1 being sold today.. but picked up a TG-16 instead

[real rapids]

I didn't insult it though!

[untold fog]

Mine arrived like an hour before the single ram core came out....

[tiny marsh]

I am a dual ram shill and even I didn’t swear at Robby and MARl0

[tropic basin]

Why not

[stuck blaze]

~

[visual sonnet]

No way brother. Dual Ram till the day I F'n DIE

[marble jetty]

Dual ram is for BABIES

[restive oasis]

this is true and i agree

the only reason for dual ram is to play fat baby games slightly more accurately after all

[viscid harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/blown-away-maxell-tape-ad-advertising-stereo-music-gif-25588455

I appreciate dual ram folk for beta testing my optimized efficient single ram experience.

I don’t know, I don’t play any of these third rate console’s cores. I just run update all.

[empty valley]

Single ram will play every game but unfortunately it can’t be cycle accurate but dual ram is

[restive oasis]

i update all, i update all, i update all and i update now

[marble jetty]

It’s getting there

[brazen sandal]

Let dual RAM users do what they want, it doesn't change the end result. Single RAM is great, what else? The only good intention behind dual RAM is to test the cores, I admit that, but aside from that, MiSTer users want cores with single RAM!

[dire sinew]

https://tenor.com/jVBQWbNTjR7.gif

[brazen sandal]

Judgement day is coming !

[dire sinew]

yes, but for whom?

[brazen sandal]

For all those who want to create discord and misunderstandings !

[fathom steeple]

Is the latest unstable build for dual sdram?

[dire sinew]

nope, all single ram now

[marble jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/im-playing-both-sides-both-sides-its-always-sunny-frank-retires-s10e09-gif-17913970

[gloomy flint]

That’s not what your mom said 🤣

[gloomy flint]

I’d say who I’d hope it be for but then I’d be breaking the rules most likely

[dire sinew]

We all have a wishlist

[gloomy flint]

I’ll give a hint and if it’s against the rules they can remove it. A certain group of racist, transphobic, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic people who are currently mocking religion.

We can disagree on things like if DualRAM is better but not about someone’s right to exist.

[dire sinew]

I imagine you'd get a lot of support for that here ❤️

but yes, we probably shouldn't dig into it

as the kids say, iykyk 6 7

[gloomy flint]

What the hell is “6 7”? All these damn kids saying it yet I’m old so I don’t know what it is

[dire sinew]

I think the idea is that it has no meaning and it confuses the olds

[rapid cobalt]

I saw a video comparing 67 to the Wassssssaaaahhhh (whats up) from the budweiser super bowl commercial. I think that makes sense

[restive oasis]

its the duty of the youth to confuse their elders

[ashen palm]

my goal in life is to get back to my 'wasted youth' period

[astral nova]

I'm honestly fine with kids saying silly things, as long as they're not drinking Tide pods.

[ashen palm]

more like "New Game +" with my previous inventory carried over 😆

[gloomy flint]

Or doing stupid challenges.

[faint stirrup]

My 2nd ram stick is delivered next monday. Great timing, Amazon!

[dawn raft]

The entire point is that it's an antijoke

I explained to someone like this:
Y'know how South Park had that Kanye West "Fish Sticks" joke? Part of the reason they chose Kanye for it was because he'd be the type to try to find a deeper meaning to it

[night escarp]

Do you think Trip Hawkins can kick flip?

[ionic plank]

only one way to find out

[night escarp]

I feel like with that name it's highly likely

[real rapids]

Trip Hawkins can do anything!

[viscid harbor]

Whoa… I thought Trip Hawkins was a skateboarder. Instead he’s a charismatic businessman and snazzy dresser.

[weak hound]

Trip drip

[dawn raft]

I thought trip would be a guy going through marriage trouble with his wife grace

[dawn raft]

What the hell? Policenauts was on the 3DO???

[velvet geyser]

and D

console had an interesting, if short, life in the japanese market

[crisp zealot]

I recorded a few more games from the original hardware for comparison. https://youtu.be/FXUBnpgufZQ

[grand nest]

Appreciate we're still in WIP/beta for 3DO core but anywhere to log general issues that aren't game related. Couldn't find anywhere on Github

[ivory ingot]

I think the plan was that once it gets moved to the mister-devel GitHub org then it'll be open for issues

[crisp zealot]

That's right.

[ashen palm]

Here is a testing sheet if you want to document anything before Github opens up
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/118EAhaYUoGQp3036u4u7kMbwhFJrwh5yv3AKhke1f5o/

[left stump]

Metal Gear 3 was even originally being planned for 3DO. Imagine that odd alternative universe where that came to fruition.

[lucid plover]

I converted everything I could to CHD a while back. I see here some people have had reservations about CHDs for this core. I also don't see any distinction being made about CHD in the test doc apart from a single test note that says CHD works for a game whereas bin/cue doesn't

[visual sonnet]

I've used CHD and haven't ran into any issues yet myself

[fossil sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103404843512631357/1463099683143417992/No7Cg4-ezgif.com-added-text.gif?ex=69e54603&is=69e3f483&hm=3456cf9c6d2a60ea7bcb54d580436bda32e5e432b9f62aa7eea76c853c88faf3&

[marble jetty]

There are some games that have an index greater than 2. CHD deletes that. What kind of problems does it cause? Unsure but data is being deleted,

In the pins there’s a link to a list of 3DO games that may have issues with CHD, here it is for your convenience - #1329170138234097745 message

You can verify yourself by opening your game’s cue file and looking at the index on each track.

I typed this from my hot bath.

subscribe to my Patreon for exclusive access to “gamer boi catheter”

Bath water

[marble sandal]

So does super street fighter 2 turbo not boot currently on the core?

Sorry if it something already known haven't been paying much attention here

[dire sinew]

It should. What is the date on your core?

[ruby mulch]

it does boot. i'm playing ssf2t right now

[marble sandal]

Ok I'm thinking maybe I got a bad disc image

[marble sandal]

That was it..just checking to make sure it wasn't an known issue before I retried.

This was imo the best console port of ssf2t

[ruby mulch]

better than ps1/saturn ports?

[marble sandal]

Yes and for 1 reason the audio.

And that's just for SSF2T itself..the fact that it comes in a collection on PS1 and Saturn gives it an edge there

[ruby mulch]

Hummmmm wonder if possible to put the WAV from the 3DO version into the PS1/Saturn ISO…

[marble sandal]

Maybe..I will say that before I was playing the msu-1 snes version with the 3do soundtrack

I'm pretty sure Genesis also has a MD+ version with the 3do soundtrack

Never played fm towns but have heard the remixed audio comes from that version

[untold fog]

I am not sure about that list, there definitely are games with an index 2 but several of the games on that list did not have an index past 1 in my redump versions

[spring basin]

yeah, some older dumps apparently didn't have it

[dire sinew]

Yeah, that list is based on the latest redump cue files. If yours doesnt have it then it’s out of date

[marble jetty]

Bad roms/dumps strike again!

[turbid glade]

and mister main update also 🙂

[marble jetty]

Wark beat me to it!!!!

[turbid glade]

it is already merged great !!!

[lucid plover]

LOL here I am ready to share a list of INDEX 02 differences I painstakingly chronicled and I see this.

[lucid plover]

Did any BINs get changed?

[dire sinew]

honestly, that's a good question. I don't know. i use romvault to make sure my legally backed up 3DO games match those in redump

[lucid plover]

btw, for anyone else, it's a bit easier to have a program like NPP scan multiple files than opening them individually

[marble jetty]

I use Notepad++

[lucid plover]

Again, for anyone else, NPP and Notepad++ are the same thing

Ah, but I was actually thinking of testing whether games boot while reading a book or screwing around on my phone, and this INDEX 02 fretting is a bit time consuming, huh

There's the sound of my PC fan as the CHD crunching gets real traction

[ruby mulch]

but that list has Samurai Shodown and SSF2T, but I don't see INDEX02 at the redump.org site?

http://redump.org/disc/16129/
http://redump.org/disc/16131/

vs something I picked random, that has Index 02: http://redump.org/disc/6287/

[gloomy flint]

Quick question: does the new MiSTer file have the RetroAchievements built in or is that a completely separate MiSTer file, like an alternate?

[marble jetty]

completely seperate fork. see the pinhere for links - #1495062825574465557

[gloomy flint]

Hmm…now I have to see if I can switch between MiSTer files

Like with a button press

[umbral charm]

Okay, you were 1 minute faster than me for posting the core. 😂

[marble jetty]

peeeeeeeeeens

[tropic basin]

new core

why i don't know, but it's new

[forest lichen]

sorrryyyy

[tropic basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sombrero-nuevo-new-hat-hat-new-gif-14035231

[tropic basin]

Question: what is ‘T’ in the controller mapping?

[real rapids]

So 3DO gets the superior peeeeeeeeeeens, while the lowly Virtual Boy just gets pins. VB fans in shambles.

[brazen sandal]

You know what's new ?

[marble jetty]

Kitrinx is a lady so i didnt want to be rude around her

im shy around ladies lol

[forest lichen]

#1329170138234097745 message

[dire sinew]

Hmm, weird. I wonder if I did the query wrong. I’ll run it again when I get home

[fathom steeple]

is the new core above single or dual ram?

[storm moth]

Single, they'll all be single ram going forward

[fathom steeple]

cool thanx

[untold fog]

Awww crap, that's a lot I will have to re-download from another source then. Shame myrient went down

[spring basin]

no, I'm saying it may not matter

[tribal sandal]

@crisp zealot everything seems fine with the new build, the only thing I noticed was a white dot in the top right that appears using the fz1e bios, most will probably not see it depending on there tv setting but I use screen fit mode on my lcd tv, it does not appear using the ntsc bios.

[real rapids]

All the regressions from the previous build in Need for Speed are gone now. Upgrading it back to playable in the testing sheet. Had no crashes during a race, while pausing, or after a race like I was in the previous build. Honestly, the only minor issue I see left in the game is that the opponent's car still shows some boxes flickering around it briefly at the start of a race. Seems more promient with some cars more than others.

Also upgrading PGA Tour to playable for the first time since the swing gauge is visible enough now to reasonably play the game. Still severe visual corruption in the game though. But definitely playable now. Was able to get a birdy and a par on the first two holes, which I was never able to do before.

[grim goblet]

I just had a crash in a race when I switched from chase camera to the cockpit camera

Seems to be crashing sometimes when I'm in the cockpit view. You can see the skybox graphics glitching when changing into it, but changing into it isn't causing the crashes.

[forest lichen]

yes , same for me

[real rapids]

I'll have to go back and test some more then.

[forest lichen]

It often freezes during the race

[real rapids]

Did you also install the latest MiSTer main from today?

[grim goblet]

yes

[marble jetty]

CHD was going to support Index 2 but I heard Zakk stepped in and told them to stop that.

what the hell

[dire sinew]

Im an index 02 truther ama

[real rapids]

Oh yeah, cockpit view is definitely buggy and crashing. I'll update the sheet. For now, we'll just have to stick to the 3rd-person view options (which I thankfully do!).

[grim goblet]

Feel free to overwrite my note

[real rapids]

Just saw it. Not necessary. I'll leave it as–is.

[dire sinew]

Up-to-date Index 02 list

@marble jetty can you replace the list in the pins with this one ^^

The problem was that when I sanitized the names in the other list, it stripped out region and demo information for some of them

so this list is a pure grep list that is alphabetized

[tribal sandal]

One thing I can say is I completed ssf2t Europe in chd and did not notice anything missing, but maybe that won’t be the case with certain index02 games

[dire sinew]

The core may not even know index two exists

[spring basin]

at this point given old rips of 3do games didn't even have the index, there probably needs to be some actual proof any of the games even care about it

given the fact the 3DO used some proprietary cdrom filesystem I'm dubious anything even uses it

[dire sinew]

Yeah, I was going to ask SRG but I didn't want to bug him with my bullshit

(my guess is that it's fine)

[dawn raft]

Yeah. The thing I noticed:

1. It seems to be that some sort of mastering software they made decided indexes start at 1, because there's no 3DO game with an index 0
2. It's all either Japanese-made games or Japanese ports of non-Japanese games, with like one exception that actually saw release
3. It seems like "INDEX 2" just refers to the end of a track

[spring basin]

there's no index 0 because 3DO games are all one track. index 0 is not a thing for the first track

[untold fog]

Aren't there PSX and Saturn games with index 0 though? IIRC none have a second data track

[spring basin]

plenty of them have audio tracks

[lucid plover]

I hope there's something to it, bc I've sunk some time into making a distinction 😐

[untold fog]

no 3DO games have audio tracks? Could have sworn they did

Huh, they don't

[worthy hill]

The index issue is only for CHD not Bin/Cue correct?

[dire sinew]

correct

[feral current]

This latest version fixed the only noticeable bug in SSF2; it is now flawless.

[ruby mulch]

That was fixed in the last version 🙂

[feral current]

I believe I had not tested it prior to this one; it is encouraging to see that Core is gradually improving

[marble sandal]

It's encouraging to have a 3do core being worked on to begin with. Looked like it may never happen for a while there.

[vapid agate]

I think what's most encouraging about it is that once it was released it was pretty much nipped in the bud in terms of functioning pretty well

[vapid agate]

Normally these things take forever to button up but most people seem to be happy with how it works now and it's been around a month

I've yet to try anything on it but I will soonish

[marble sandal]

It doesn't have a huge library but it has quite a few exclusives and best versions of some games that weren't exclusive.

[gloomy flint]

Wonder why only the Japanese versions have an index 02 when the US ones don’t.

[lucid plover]

Might want to look up 'nipped in the bud'

[vapid agate]

Use your imagination in how a turn of phrase could be used and applied to the context

If the problem is a core not working "well", then nipping it in the bud would be making it work

[lucid plover]

Nip the bud of not working well... k

Not exactly complimentary of srg320's process, but sure

[vapid agate]

Oh he's doing fantastic work, I don't know how you could so badly misconstrue what I'm trying to say

[covert wagon]

lol I’m gonna cosplay Robby here…he meant it nicely. Go back to talking about 3DO. Or hot wings. What chat am I in? Where am I??

[dire sinew]

Xybur spicy today

[vapid agate]

I can't help people who don't understand what I'm saying, which is why everyone gets one

[vapid agate]

Mk2 is definitely a game

[dire sinew]

Spicy

[covert wagon]

About as spicy as a carrot

These kids haven’t even seen spicy shit talking

[grim goblet]

Holy Shit!

[vapid agate]

I wish I was a kid again

[covert wagon]

Go to bed son

[vapid agate]

The sweet embrace of death naps

[covert wagon]

I do love a good nap

[marble jetty]

I’m the biggest 3DO fan here and it gets my seal of approval

[marble sandal]

I highly disagree with the biggest 3do fan part but nice

[marble jetty]

You may not like it, but this is what peak 3DO fan looks like

[vernal oasis]

Betting I'm bigger.

[marble jetty]

Nope too late. I cannot be beaten.

because there is one thing I have that you and no one else here does which seals me as the greatest 3DO fan that has ever lived

[vernal oasis]

I have Trip Hawkens in my basement.

[marble jetty]

GIDDAMNIT THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY JOKE

SERIOUSLY

ARRHFHFHDJDJDKSKDKFJEIDNDNBF

[vernal oasis]

HAHAHAHA

[marble jetty]

@vernal oasis

[vernal oasis]

We're as original as ChatGPT

[marble jetty]

You dropped this king, 👑

[marble jetty]

Yeah I’m absolutely a 3DO tourist lmao

I did play a demo unit as a kid

[vernal oasis]

3DO was my fave console as a teen and NFS is still my fave racer of all time.

[marble jetty]

That’s my history with it LOL

[vernal oasis]

I say fave because I'm cool and hip.

[marble jetty]

Being able to enjoy a console “for free” really makes it a lot easier to appreciate the games for what they are

Nah seriously, like if I had to pay an arm and a leg for any retro game I’d be super demanding

[vernal oasis]

Mega CD is another favourite. They had such weird, fun games back then.

Yeah games are way too pricey now. I'm a retro gamer, not a retro collector, so all I need is my MiSTer.

[marble sandal]

You definitely not a bigger NFS fan coz I have Brenan T. Baird in my basement

[vernal oasis]

Jesus he must be ripe by now. RIP

I was gutted when I found out he died, TBH. He was my childhood! LOL

And I am the biggest NFS fan as I know the actor who plays the cop - Michael St John Smith. So there. Okay, I've interviewed him online but still...

[marble sandal]

I wouldn't know what the cop looks like

[vernal oasis]

Yeah I never saw him in the game. I'm too fast. I just assumed there must be a cop in there and googled. Honest.

Oh and I made NFS the subject of the final issue of my shitty little game magazine. I AM THE BIGGEST FAN!!

[marble sandal]

Micheal St John Smith has certainly been in a lot of movies and TV shows im familiar with.

[vernal oasis]

Yeah, he's done loads. Really nice guy. Started acting later in life, too.

Now that 3DO is well on the way to being perfect, what is really left for the little MiSTer?

[vapid agate]

A ton rofl

Thankfully there's a lot of talented people working on them already

I'm looking forward to cps3, pgm and pcfx

[vernal oasis]

Really? Like what? I can only think of incredibly niche devices with less than stellar libraries... Apple Pippin etc.

[vernal oasis]

Okay, good call - that's three decent ones. I'd like a standalone CD32 core and Apple IIGS

Oh and Tiger Game.com hahahaha

[spring wharf]

FM Towns/Marty, Mattel HyperScan, Apple Pippin, Super A'Can...

[vernal oasis]

The FM Towns would be amazing. As for the others...

[cunning drift]

PCFX.

Oh someone said it, never mind

[marble jetty]

Omg that’s so cool you made a magazine

[vernal oasis]

But yeah I guess there is still a bit of a future ahead!

[marble sandal]

The remixed soundtrack for ssf2t on 3do comes from the fm towns version.

Or so I've heard

[cunning drift]

Also the cores for slightly newer macs (not sure if they aredone yet)

[vernal oasis]

Yeah it was an awesome idea to start up a print publication just after the pandemic. Oh well, my bankruptcy ends in December HAHAHA

[vernal oasis]

Yup.

[marble sandal]

There is a lot of arcade stuff I'd like to see on mister that should be doable

[vernal oasis]

Yeah, I'd particularly like to see more Sega super scalers and hopefully people will add high score saving to games that didn't support it officially. Not sure if that's doable but I hate my scores being wiped!

I wish I had the skills and talent these core devs have...

[marble sandal]

I think it should be a crime that we don't have rainbow islands or any of the bubble bobble sequels yet.

[vernal oasis]

Parasol Stars on PC Engine, hehe.

Now I want to play Rainbow Islands. What's the best port?

[marble sandal]

PS1 is good..nes has 2 the us version is not a port of the arcade game it has its own levels..the pal version has arcade levels. Genesis also has a good port

Sega Saturn has a port basically the same as the PS1 version

[marble sandal]

You can't lose with any of those

Play the PS1 or Saturn enhanced version for the best looking

Oh it's also on PC engine cd

The menus are Japanese so not the best way to play

[vernal oasis]

Yeah I'll try Saturn or PSX

[marble sandal]

Gameboy color version too

And gamegear

[vernal oasis]

Ooh, I need to add to my Miyoo Mini...

[real rapids]

I'd also love to see PC-98. There is a shocking amount of fan translations there.

[visual sonnet]

I played Dead of the Brain 1&2 on a PC-98 emulator. Made me go and download every other translation for that platform I could find

[marble sandal]

The gamegear and gbc versions are based off the US nes version. Uses the different level layout not the arcade.

[tropic basin]

no one will tell me what the T button does

[deft bridge]

Flightstick trigger

[tropic basin]

oh cool

was that analog control then?

[deft bridge]

Flightstick is analog

[tropic basin]

thanks

[slow python]

I still feel like this thread should be named “3DO 3DO”, for consistency’s sake

[tribal sandal]

Srg320 doesn't do what Srg320 does for Srg320. Srg320 does what Srg320 does because Srg320 is... Srg320.

[umbral charm]

srg320's on fire.

[forest lichen]

Zet, can you compile the core? 😄

[umbral charm]

I'm finishing my dinner and I launch it.

And, if I could have a core without too much deviation on timings.

[forest lichen]

no more hangs for me in Need for Speed

[umbral charm]

So you have the core ready ?

Once again, he was faster.

I need a bigger boat. 😁

[forest lichen]

I have it, but I was waiting for you 😄

[grand nest]

Does anyone else have an issue with the latest core 190426 where it doesn't load a controller by default? I need to go into the menu and specify the number of controllers

[dire sinew]

wait until today's core is available, Andy. SRG just pushed fixes

someone will build it

[faint stirrup]

Meanwhile, Amazon delivers…

[grim goblet]

Save settings in the OSD to actually save the core settings

[forest lichen]

yes , correct, change to 1 and save settings

[umbral charm]

One day, I will be faster. One day...

[forest lichen]

Apart from the frame rate, Need for Speed looks perfect now

[grim goblet]

Immercenary is great so far too 🙂

[empty valley]

Happy 4/20 day 3DO fans

What better way to celebrate than with a new RBF

[tiny marsh]

Random Chinese RAM… good luck

[marble sandal]

That means it is perfect as the 3do version goes..

[vestal steppe]

Had to Google that lol.
As German, it could be interpreted something else. It's Hitler's birthday which was national holiday in the 3rd Reich 😆

[empty valley]

Yikes lol. It's a stoner holiday in the US. It's more of a meme than a holiday though

[tropic basin]

@marble jetty there's a new core for you to peen

[dire sinew]

4/20 is a rough day, hitlers birthday, columbine, insufferable weed jokes

[marble jetty]

GRAGGHHBLAAGHHH I MADE PEEEEEEEEEN

[iron tundra]

Woohoo! The Shockwave engine noise is fixed. I won't have to play it on mute anymore.

[orchid lance]

Huh, with today's build, controller input seems to be ignored by the core. Am I the only person seeing this?

Ah, pad has to be set to 1

I see! Sorry

[marble jetty]

Don’t be, it’s a good reminder for people to check their pad input in every core update as it gets reset sometimes.

[orchid lance]

Total Eclipse still has those strange little glitches with the renderer, like fast green bars appearing for a frame. In case it's of interest.

[real rapids]

I still see some boxes appear briefly around the opponent's car at the start of a race. Also experienced some minor visual corruption in the pause menu once (happened on the first leg of the Coastal course). Also encountered some severe corruption in the second half of the second leg of the Coastal course. Haven't had a chance yet to test the third leg of any of the courses yet to see how they fair!

[grim goblet]

Feel free to remove me from the entry, I'm leaving testing if that game to others, just thought for yesterday I would add a note

[forest lichen]

I don't see any boxes

[real rapids]

They seem to show up more for some cars than others. Try to have him use the green car (forget what it's called). It's very noticable with that one.

[marble sandal]

Haven't got to it yet but plan to since it's a game I actually owned on 3do

That game is tough you can go from "oh I got this!" To your guts splattered on the wall in seconds..lol

The genestealers are scary to me right up there with xenomorphs.

[faint stirrup]

The new Random Chinese RAM was a total success. Thanks for your good luck 😎

[tropic basin]

Sending your mister data to the Chinese government

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-worthless-gravity-falls-dipper-pines-worthless-gif-25136060

[sharp pendant]

"I see Western man you are addicted to the 'Memtest'. Would be real bad for you if your wife were to find out..."

[ionic plank]

No it goes to Robby now remember?

[sharp pendant]

Rubber bullets don't grow on trees

[tropic basin]

i feel like the sliding when you fall off your bike sound effect was missing before this latest core but i might be wrong

[atomic valley]

Gonna try this out tonight. Anyone have any recommended software to convert iso to bin/cue? been a long time since I have done that and want to check out the new MKII homebrew port but it's only downloadable as an iso

[real rapids]

It works with the iso.

No need to convert.

[atomic valley]

oh rad!

based on some screenshots assuming this is good to use on CRTs? or is there extra ini settings needed for that?

the core that is

[real rapids]

Not sure on that front since I use my modern TV.

[storm moth]

Works fine on a crt

[real rapids]

Wish I had room for a CRT.

[normal iris]

Hello, I'm unable to get my controller to work with the 3DO core. I'm using a Bliss adapter for the Saturn, a 2.4ghz Retro-bit Saturn wireless controller with Saturn wireless receiver. This controller setup seems to work fine with other cores. I have the dual ram version of MiSTer

[atomic valley]

awesome. So stoked to try 3DO. Never played it before

[real rapids]

Did you go into input settings and turn on the controller? It's off by default.

[normal iris]

Yep

Pad 1

The 3DO games I've tried load up fine, btw

I save the Pad 1 settings, even tried Pad 2, no dice

[real rapids]

You don't have another controller on at the same time?

[normal iris]

Nope

[real rapids]

Hmm, not sure then.

[normal iris]

Do I need to be running an unstable MiSTer?

[real rapids]

Yes for the latest 3DO core builds that support saving and such. Otherwise those features won't work. Not sure if it affects controller input though.

Have you tried other controllers on the core?

[normal iris]

Yeah, I tried a PS1 controller with a PS1 blisss adapter

Which worked fine on the PSX core

[real rapids]

And did that one work?

[normal iris]

Nope

[real rapids]

If no controllers are working, then I'd use the latest unstable MiSTer main and see if that fixes it.

[normal iris]

And this is with whatever 3DO core came with update_all, as well as the 4/20 one

Cool, I'll just install the unstable MiSTer update then. Thank you!

[marble jetty]

I have a thought exercise

What if the 3DO wasn’t good? What then?

[normal iris]

Wait, it was good?

I remember reading up on the M2 in NextGen magazine like 30 years ago, looking at the console designs, the colors of the consoles and thinking it was gonna put the 3DO back on track

I was let down

I think there were even screenshots of games in development

And what disappoints me most if that Panasonic was a beast in the MSX-era. Their MSX computers were some of the most sought-after

[oak owl]

Is that a new memory tester? Didn't know we had one for dual ram

[karmic mantle]

whoa yeah I’ve never seen that either

[dire sinew]

Id be more curious if it can run Dead or Alive's attract mode on Saturn for more than 20 minutes

[grim goblet]

I don't think it's been properly vetted yet, seemed AI generated from the first post and was seemingly giving someone incorrect results

[storm moth]

Yea dual ram mem test released recently https://github.com/alijani1/MemTest256

[untold fog]

It dosen't detect my second stick 🙁

[karmic mantle]

stick’s bad, toss it in the 🗑️

[untold fog]

😛

It works with everything else

[crisp zealot]

I'm not familiar with this game. Could you provide step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce the issue?

[iron tundra]

1. Boot Need For Speed. 2. Select the car option and change to the Porsche 911. 3. Start the race (select the ignition key).
   During the camera zoom into your car you will see some transparent black squares that look like a badly clipped shadow quad. The camera has to be sufficiently far away from the car. The "sweet spot" for the camera occurs during the zoom in at the start of the race and the zoom out at the checkpoints/finish line. From the third person camera (C button), you might see it if you crash at high speed and the camera has to pull back when your car flips.

[crisp zealot]

Thank you. Now I see.

[crisp zealot]

I can see that on my car. But what problems does my opponent's car have?

[faint stirrup]

The Porsche shadow is squared (flickering) for both your car and your opponent’s.

[crisp zealot]

I see. I guess I need to try a few more times.

[faint stirrup]

There are also some flickering dots in the grass… if we’re being picky about this amazing core

[crisp zealot]

This happens on the original hardware as well.

[ionic plank]

People still love the game gear so i think we’d be fine

[marble jetty]

I love both!

[cobalt zephyr]

I owned one and kinda hated it lol

[fossil sorrel]

I had an Atari Lynx...

...

...

[silent oak]

N-Gage was my first cell phone that wasn't a hand-me-down Siemens

[ionic plank]

Oh wow, was it really as bad as a cell phone as everyone said?

[silent oak]

it was functional

I was the punching taco bag in school but it was functional

but I had all the cool PS1 games on my phone in an age before PSP and Android phones

[faint stirrup]

To settle your curiosity, 40mins running ok so far (Saturn_20250927.rbf from your repo). Kinda boring attract mode (half FMV, half short fight)

[real rapids]

Thanks for helping with this! I only just woke up...👀

[inland bronze]

Where can I find the changelog for new versions?

[forest lichen]

#1329170138234097745 message

Or github

[iron tundra]

It's probably not obvious (the UI was trying to be "no text" and I don't think they succeeded in making it intuitive), if you highlight the dude's face and use the LShift and RShift buttons you change his car. Something about the green Porsche is causing the glitch, so when you have both your car and the opponent's car as the Porsche, you'll see twice as many artifacts- or at least twice as many chances to see the green artifacts. In fact the easiest way to see the artifacts is to have the opponent be the green Porsche and tail behind him by a few car lengths and the green square will flicker in and out of existence if you keep close to him during the race. I think it's only really visible from the chase camera (from first-person, press C twice).

[dire sinew]

Nice. Should be good then

[mild helm]

At the local yearly 'Atari invasion of the Commodore club'. The three Lynxes at the front and the Portfolio are mine 🙂 I also have collected almost all commercially released games and programmed a few small demos for it.

[tiny marsh]

That’s a lot of lynxs

[fossil sorrel]

"Gasp"

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-galdalf-surprised-shocked-look-gif-4938082

[turbid shuttle]

While looking a pic of the mpeg decoder module, I wonder if they intended release games with mpeg capabilities under the brand "3do digital video"

[fossil sorrel]

I see Tod's adventure in slime world peeking out over there

Great game

Best version

I haven't played any other version

But still...

Best version

[mild helm]

Such a great multi player game

[fossil sorrel]

Also Best version of California Games is on the Lynx

[mild helm]

Yeah, love the surfing game. The BMX game is tricky, but doable with practice

[fossil sorrel]

I'm the only person in the universe who figured out how to do the halfpipe

[mild helm]

I believe you, never even remotely got the hang of that one

I might be the only one enjoying Hard Drivin' on the Lynx

[fossil sorrel]

I preferred Chequered Flag

[mild helm]

Also a fun one with multiple players

[fossil sorrel]

Disclaimer I never played hard drivin

Chequered Flag has awesome music

[mild helm]

The framerate gets faster with your speed 😄 It is frustratingly difficult, but rewarding when you improve

[fossil sorrel]

I also had "Hockey!"

[mild helm]

Some Lynx games have really nice music. It has an interesting audio chip, evolved typical Atari sound

[fossil sorrel]

"Hockey" has great half time music

[mild helm]

Yeah, true. I'm trying to remember the name of the shooter where you fly around with a jetpack, it has fantastic game over music. I don't mean Xenophobe (which I like more than the arcade version).

[fossil sorrel]

https://youtu.be/-skEWQtvGd0?t=2m35s

Listen dis

Beautiful

[fossil sorrel]

Hmmm blue lightning maybe

No that's a jet fighter game

[mild helm]

Here we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHhKDKQu7h4

[fossil sorrel]

Whoa

I've never seen this game??

[mild helm]

They made the beach volleyball game as well. And I think the golf game

Or was it tennis 😄

Rampage had some cool music as well

[fossil sorrel]

I had rampage yeah

Its
Ike sidchip music

[mild helm]

Also lots of fun with multiple players

Yeah, sounds quite similar.

Oh, it was the golf game as well, not the tennis one

[fossil sorrel]

This power factor music is awesome brosef!

[mild helm]

Right? I always thought it was really odd that they faded it out quickly at the title screen, but then played it fully after game over.

[fossil sorrel]

Ill have to check out the game. We should probably let this thread get back to 3DO

😆

Oh wait I also had batman returns

Couldn't get past the first level

[mild helm]

Same lol

[fossil sorrel]

Now I know who to hassle about Lynx stuff

[mild helm]

Recently read how you get past that bomb

Yep, hahaha

[dire sinew]

That's waaaaaay above my pay grade

I just ban bots

[spring basin]

hah you think you get paid

[dire sinew]

I also get to annoy you tho. And you know what they say, if you love what you do....

[spring basin]

blocked and refunded

[dire sinew]

IM GETTING PAID

[spring basin]

sorry

blocked and WAGE GARNISHED

[tropic basin]

which is the best lynx

[mild helm]

Lynx 2, better battery life, you can turn the screen off, more comfortable to hold and full stereo panning per channel when using headphones.

With the original display you can do color blending tricks and it can handle the variable framerate. Modern replacement displays have better sharpness, contrast and colors and can be more energy efficiënt.

My Lynx 2 with replacement display also has a VGA output connector

And my original Lynx 2, from back in the day, was signed by one of its creators, RJ Mical

I added an overclocking option to my Lynx 1 😄

[marble jetty]

HRRRR NGGGGGG MY RETRO IS DISTENDED EUUUUUGHHHHH

[tropic basin]

guys can we please stay on topic

[vernal oasis]

Man, every time I visit there seems to be a new core update and they're getting better every time. Thank you SOOOOO much for this core @crisp zealot - the 3DO is one of my favourite machines of all time. I was lucky enough to have had one back in the day, so this core makes me happy 😄

[marble sandal]

A friend sold me a goldstar 3do and like 5 games in the early 2000s for $50. Best $50 I ever spent.

It's the reason I'm a bit nostalgic for the goldstar model even tho it's not really the best.

[tiny marsh]

Holy shit

[marble jetty]

lol fml

[spring basin]

wow

[deep holly]

lol i still own my 3do. Not sure if it works but i have it.

[marble sandal]

Not to nit pick but wouldn't a real 3do fan also know if their 3do works or not?

[dire sinew]

I wonder if this fixes travel mystery https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/pull/1162

[untold fog]

I know 99.99% chances and all that, but I am going to go out on a limb and say that probably nobody loved the R-Zone or HyperScan

[real rapids]

I just had a random thought about just how much I love the R-Zo...I...I mean, how much I hate the R-Zone! (laughs nervously)

[weary rain]

It’s technically topical considering that the engineers who worked on the Amiga and created the Atari Lynx hardware also did so for the 3DO as well

[paper totem]

68040 core, Apple Performa or Quadra 900/950, Mac OS System 7.x/8.1, PPC 603 CPU. Maybe early IRIX system like an SGI Indy.

[astral nova]

I had an Indy at work for a while, I'd love an SGI core. Particularly if it had the Indy startup and shutdown sounds. I should still have all the IRIX installation media.

[vernal oasis]

I had the Goldstar one too. Bought it new here in NZ. Was cheaper than the Panasonic. The 3DO was never officially released here so we had to make do with imported units - although that was fine with me as it meant no crappy PAL borders and limited speed!

[vernal oasis]

An SGI core would be awesome. Wonder if that's doable? One thing I REALLY want is cores for Yamaha sequencing hardware like the QY70 and QY100, hehe.

[astral nova]

The N64 used an R4k CPU, my Indy had an R5k but they came with R4ks as well.

[vernal oasis]

It would be neat to do some 3D modelling on the MiSTer in an SGI core, haha.

[astral nova]

The Indy would be a bit slow for that, GLX to a Linux system was faster than the true color framebuffer in the Indy I had. 😹 Maya running on MiSTer though.

SGI was discussing co-ownership of the Amiga technology with Commodore before the latter acquired Amiga. Somehow giving SGI a few degrees of separation to 3DO.

[mild helm]

Early Silicon Graphics models used the same Motorola CPUs as the Amiga

[ionic plank]

Almost every company that had a 16 bit computer used the 68000 at some point

[sinful cliff]

It was in the Mega Drive too

[marble jetty]

gross

[dire sinew]

We did it, friends. Travel Detective now loads from bin and cue

ship it

[shadow silo]

Edge magazine Nov '93

the very next line is

[ionic plank]

MSX did quite well in its target markets though

[tribal sandal]

I see there was a newer unstable fix, not had chance to test it yet

3DO: increase buffer for the CUE file string (fixed long file paths) '```

[dire sinew]

thats for mister main, not for the 3DO

4/20 I think is still the most recent core

[untold fog]

Reminds me of when the game.com and n-gage advertising tried to claim the gameboy is basically a toy for kids, didn't go so well

[tepid dagger]

Try this for dual ram

[dire sinew]

Hello, someone say dip switches and I'm here

ahem

You don't need to flip any dip switches if you are using a 9.2 generation IO board. That includes Taki's board, Legacy Pixel's board, MisterAddon's modern boards, and the Analog 9.2 board from Ultimate Mister

[untold fog]

Like mentioned below, you don't need to do that anymore on the newer boards. The other second ram memory test and every dual Ram core works fine on my system, just that memory test fails to detect the second stick

[faint stirrup]

Yes sir, that’s what i had to do. It wasnt being detected before.

No addon boards for my setup

[faint stirrup]

What’s the “other” memory tester for duals?

[untold fog]

I think it's called 2ndmemtest or something like that, tests only the second stick

[night escarp]

Is it still recommended to run latest unstable mister main for 3dO compatibility?

[ivory ingot]

Yes

[visual sonnet]

Has anyone tried Star Control II out? Does it run good?

[storm moth]

I tested the japanese version for 10 minutes recently and it seemed fine to me

[visual sonnet]

Awesome. I think I am gonna try to get into that tonight

[real rapids]

Marked Need for Speed as completable on the testing sheet. Beat the "X-Man" (yes, that's his name) on all three segments on all three routes. Still love this game.

[distant grove]

Did you check the ice segment

[real rapids]

Yes, I said I did all three segments on all three routes!

The only segment that has some issues is the second segment of the Coastal route.

[visual sonnet]

RIP X-Man. Gone but never forgotten in our 3DO hearts!

[visual sonnet]

Man I don't get it. I have the latest unstable mister main, and the latest 3DO core, and I still cant save. I always get insufficient storage 😭

[vernal oasis]

On NFS? Try running something to clear the NVRAM. There are memory managers I believe but I loaded up Wolfenstein and it cleared it for me. No idea but I did that after a mate did it and NFS then worked - no insufficent storage message.

[visual sonnet]

on any game. Some games will even say they saved, but it never writes it to the card like how say in PSX, you save, you load the mister menu and it says saving real quick. doesnt happen here.

[vernal oasis]

Weird. This might help: https://consolemods.org/wiki/3DO:Storage_Manager#:~:text=Hold L or R and,on jewel case and disc.

[visual sonnet]

I tried that too, it says the memory is 100% free

i also read to delete the 3do.cfg on the sd card too, tried that and still won't save

[vernal oasis]

I don't think saving is fully supported yet - NFS saves for me automatically but Road Rash doesn't work (I thought it did but didn't). I'm not getting errors though, just the initial one I had with NFS...

[visual sonnet]

Some games give errors, others don't, like Slayer will say memory is full, and that's that, I tried to Save in Star Control 2 and it said it saved, but then upon reload nothing there

[vernal oasis]

Ah okay, it's probably just that the core isn't finished. I thought you meant the ram error that stopped NFS from booting.

[visual sonnet]

Games run great n stuff, It's no biggie. the core will be ready when it's ready. It's fun just to mess around with stuff on it for now and see imrpovements. I can always use my real 3do (no pun intended) in the meantime

[storm moth]

I've had good luck with things mostly saving I believe, can't say I've noticed issues with anything not saving for me yet

[vernal oasis]

I have only played NFS and Road Rash. I need to get into some more games when I have the time. But when I turn on a 3DO I HAVE to play NFS. LOL.

[storm moth]

That's fair, i gotta try those for longer than 10 mins one of these days

[crisp zealot]

I recorded a few more games with potential issues from the original hardware for comparison. https://youtu.be/L-ZrRFdRaOE

[visual sonnet]

Thank you for your work on this core. the 3DO was my favorite console growing up and it's so awesome that playing it on my Mister is becoming a reality

[forest lichen]

@crisp zealot as for the 3DO based arcade machines, were there any differences, or were they 1:1 hardware compatible?

[crisp zealot]

I'm no expert on 3DO. All I can say is that the games run.😀

[forest lichen]

ok thanks :))

I don't know anything about 3DO

but testing and gaming bring me a lot of joy, great work !

[crisp zealot]

I tested 4 arcade versions and 4 beta versions of the games. They all ran fine.

I don't have time for more testing.

[turbid glade]

3do M2 ? 😀?

[dire sinew]

According to Wikipedia, there are 8 arcade games? Are they in mame?

[forest lichen]

for arcade - Rename the 3do_arcade_saot.bin file to cd_bios.rom and place it in the game folder or parent folder.

[crisp zealot]

I made an experimental erase command of the VRAM pages. This erase is used in some games, such as Seal of the Pharaoh, Space Hulk, Star Wars. These changes could cause a lot of regression!

[turbid glade]

Nishimura Kyoutarou Travel Mystery - Akugyaku no Kisetsu - Tokyo Nanki Shirahama Renzoku Satsujin Jiken (Japan) -> Working with bin/cue !

[tribal sandal]

I remember renting Theme Park for my 3DO console back in the day and sometimes when building a big park the game would freeze. Just thought I’d put that out there as showing that it did have issues on my real console.

[distant grove]

https://archive3do.com/panasonic-real-fz-1-3/

[distant grove]

See link I just sent

[forest lichen]

Thanks !

[sharp pendant]

Am I reading it right that arcade games are now playable?

[dire sinew]

seems like they are just normal games with a different bios

I don't think the exclusives ever came out

[sharp pendant]

Do they need that coin peripheral supported

?

[dire sinew]

I dunno. I just know I can’t play the beavis and butthead beat em up

[oak owl]

I had no idea there were arcade exclusives on 3do.

[covert wagon]

Correct

One game (Beavis and butthead) has an expanded spec. But that’s never been dumped. No matter how hard I try to convince galloping ghost

[dire sinew]

is that who has it?

[vapid agate]

yeah

[dire sinew]

I saw it was someone in chicago

[vapid agate]

they dont allow anyone to dump it

[dire sinew]

wtf why

[vapid agate]

they have a like 2-3 rare pcbs, i believe that they want to keep

you can go there and play the game but its typical anti-preservationist thought process

[dire sinew]

that is some "belongs in a museum" ass shit.

[vapid agate]

old timers want to keep the "value" of what they have

its an otherwise cool arcade, worth a visit, but its lame that they are that way about it

[dire sinew]

I like Galloping Ghost. I just think that sucks

I guess what I should say is that I don't care if they want to preserve their value - I get it, that's fine.

But I hope someone has dumped it. even if they have to keep it private until galloping ghost closes or the machine dies

I think the idea of trying to preserve your value in the face of losing a game permanently is fucking abhorrent. And folks that do that should not be allowed to have artifacts like that.

[covert wagon]

they've contacted me for help with the board in the past (or someone from there has) and I said I'd take care of whatever they needed so long as they dump it for preservation and my time is free

[vapid agate]

I can imagine it now, pointing out things that need replacing

[covert wagon]

id bring two cat pens for it

[real rapids]

Dog pen fans in shambles.

[tribal sandal]

It’s a shame it looks like a fun game

[dire sinew]

Right? It's apparently terrible

but I'd love to play it

I guess I can go to known preservationists, the Galloping Ghost, and play it there

and maintain its value

[silent oak]

sounds like a fun break-in heist

just make sure to return it after documenting the hardware

[distant grove]

Rotten boomer brain

1997 Atari 3DO

• 2 million 3do systems manufactured
• 6 million computer chips
  BUT
  ONLY 5 produced with extra ram

This is why I will let it rot and decay so the 4 yearly people interested can pay me an admission fee

[dire sinew]

"I got mine"

[covert wagon]

dog pen doesn't get enough love its true

[simple iris]

this core disappeared from my mister today after running updateall. How can I get it back?

[dire sinew]

I removed it from the dual ram repo because that core is a month old (and the core no longer requires dual ram). Check the pins for the latest version. You can also install the WIP repo in order to have update all install it

[simple iris]

I am pretty worthless with this thing when it comes to do anything other than running the updateall script..

[dire sinew]

oh well it's super easy. if you're putting stuff on your mister, how do you do it? do you pop the SD card out? FTP into the mister?

[simple iris]

pop out the sd card normally but I just tried to ftp into it using mister companion and dont see the "meedia" folder to put your two updater scripts in

media*

[dire sinew]

what do you see when you ftp in? anything? empty folder?

[simple iris]

folders labeled sd card, tmp, and then usb1 through usb7

0 through 7 actually

[dire sinew]

ok perfect, do you see fat?

[simple iris]

hmm nope not on mine

[dire sinew]

ok, see if you can go up a level

[dire sinew]

you logged in with username: root and password: 1, yeah?

[simple iris]

yes

those are the only folders. going up a level just takes me to my network devices

[dire sinew]

hmm, I wonder if windows is just not seeing it. let's just pop the SD card out and do it that way

those two ini files will go into the same folder that you see MiSTer and downloader and your core directories

[signal mango]

your mister still boots right?

oh right you logged in.

[simple iris]

yeah. ok I'll do it that way. thanks for your help

filezilla sees it through ftp. so, just put those two scrip files in the fat folder?

probably in the scripts folder in the fat folder

[dire sinew]

No, /media/fat. where the downloader.ini file is

[simple iris]

Ok I got it on the mister if I go to unstable. But once I'm in, my controller no longer works. It works in all the stable cores through

Fixed it by plugging in a ps5 controller instead of using llapi 8bitdo SNES controller

Lol but the video for the core is just a tiny vertical stripe on the far left of the screen

[dawn raft]

I would be very surprised if GG doesn't have their own backup somewhere

[dire sinew]

I hope they do

[bold lily]

Does the new version of the core require an unstable mister main?

[night leaf]

Is it safe to assume this isn't referring to save memory but some RAM that never gets cleared until reboot?

Feels like it was only after 2 or 3 races since the last restart.

[distant grove]

That's a ram thing

[real rapids]

Yes

[visual sonnet]

I know on a FZ-10 model 3DO the ram must be different somehow because i had this issue with Road Rash on my FZ-10 but not my FZ-1

[stable sundial]

Does anyone manage to play an audio cd in the 3do core ?
I really liked the visualizer
I could not here (despite my test chd was playing in other cores)

[storm moth]

Believe it's not supported yet

[tribal sandal]

I know with the European release of Road Rash they made a new revision because of problems on the FZ-10

[visual sonnet]

Oh nice. I didn't know that!

[tropic basin]

Damn even 3do effected by RAM prices

[distant grove]

Just anvil fz10.

[mystic abyss]

Is there any way to resolve that race music issue with Road Rash on an Anvil FZ10, or are you just stuck playing it without music? EDIT: Just Googled it, and there's no workaround.

[signal herald]

Thanks google... thoogle

[mystic abyss]

lol

[distant grove]

There is a work around if there is an ODE in use.

[forest lichen]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/3DO_MiSTer

[fair wave]

Nice! Sergey stamp of approval!

[dire sinew]

woo

[tribal sandal]

3DO core updates cheer me up

[fair wave]

PAL still not enabled for you rare 3D0 Pal breed 🙂 .OUT_CLK(/!PAL ?/ 24545400 /: 29500000/),

but thats ok, there are less than dozens of you

[dire sinew]

I think it works. I think you need to swap the bios?

[crisp zealot]

PAL works. But I don't use the 29.5 MHz frequency for PAL because I don't know the proper settings.

780dot * 313row * 50frame * 2 = 24414000Hz. I have no idea where 29.5MHz comes from.

[dire sinew]

Will 3DO also start getting automated unstable builds, srg?

[crisp zealot]

I don't know. What do I need to do for that?

[dire sinew]

Good question. I can't remember. Maybe @deft gull knows

[deft gull]

Hey, I didn't know you were here, great to see you around! I've sent you an invitation to the organization. The instructions are here: https://github.com/MiSTer-unstable-nightlies/Build-Automation_MiSTer#how-to-add-an-official-repository-to-unstable-nightlies

I can help doing that after the 5th of May if it couldn't be done earlier

@dire sinew If you want, I can send you an invite too

Instructions are pretty simple

[dire sinew]

I am already a big enough valor thief, but thank you ❤️

[deft gull]

I’ll send it anyway.. if you decline, I’ll pretend it never happened 😄

[dire sinew]

Boom

[real rapids]

Dis just got R•E•A•L.

[fair wave]

780 is NTSC ? PAL is 944?

[crisp zealot]

Do you know it or do you assume it?

[fair wave]

Ah, I thought you had the reference

Thats assumed based on the clock

[crisp zealot]

I didn't find any information about this in the datasheets.

[fair wave]

14,750,000 / 15,625

I was just assuming based on PAL Standard

[covert wagon]

update all eh?

[tropic basin]

the core is in?

[dire sinew]

no

[tropic basin]

vgesoooooooooooterica lied to me

[real rapids]

Just unstable nightlies now. Which can be added to update all, but not by default.

[covert wagon]

"update_some"

[simple iris]

Any idea why the core would only be displaying a thin vertical stripe of video on the far left side of the screen?

[dire sinew]

hmdi or CRT

[simple iris]

HDMI. No other cores do it

[dire sinew]

delete 3do.cfg in the /config directory

[simple iris]

Ok I'll try that. Thanks

[simple iris]

I've got 3 different ones. 3dogamma.cfg 3dosclaler.cfg 3doshmask.cfg

[dire sinew]

delete them all

[ivory ingot]

I don't know how but the 3DO core is working happily on my PAL CRT

[simple iris]

My issue remains

[mystic abyss]

In Wing Commander 3, are the random red, blue and yellow dots (stars?) supposed to be there in the flight sequences, or is space supposed to be black? I can't tell if they're glitchy pixels or not.

[ruby mulch]

there are plenty of videos on youtube you can check, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrh4GFvbkQQ

[mystic abyss]

I've looked at those and they're too washed out to tell definitively

I'm gonna have to hook up my FZ1 and play the game. It's been years, and I can't remember

[ruby mulch]

seems pretty easy to tell to me from 23:00 onward from that video

[mystic abyss]

They might be intentional. They're brighter on Mister. Yeah, gonna have to check it out on real hardware

[visual sonnet]

One interesting thing is the intro to Slayer. the Mister core handles it exactly like a 3DO emulator does. There's a delay when the fire beast actually spews out his fireball on the mister and emulators compared to real hardware

[turbid glade]

For Need for Speed I couldn't start (start button doesn't seem to work) is there anything I need to check ?

[lunar cave]

I don’t know if there were any PAL exclusives so I assume PAL support is not that important.

[storm moth]

There are some games that refuse to run without a PAL bios

[turbid glade]

I see I will try with PAL bios thanks 🙂

[storm moth]

I don't think Need for Speed is one of those games that will complain about not having PAL bios but guess it's worth a try

Need for speed seems to be working for me

[turbid glade]

Yes it works with PAL bios ^^

[marble sandal]

Ok I know operation jump gate was an expansion that added 5 missions to shockwave. I'm assuming if get the operation jump gate disc image it contains everything from the base game too?

Nevermind looking at the file sizes probably not

[visual sonnet]

Operation Jumpgate doesn't have the first shockwave on it

And it will only work if it reads a save file from the first shock wave on the console.

[marble sandal]

I guess the next logical question is will the mister allow it to detect the save files?

[grim goblet]

I would assume as with others similar cores, if you want to share save data between games, you're going to need to put those games into the same folder. The default functionality is to have completely independant saves for each game, based on the folder the game disc images are stored in on your SD card or other.
So, this probably works just fine, you'll just have to put the games in the same folder.

[distant grove]

Striker

[marble sandal]

So I used a workaround I've used for other systems. I made 2 separate folders for shockwave and operation jump gate but made a subfolder with the same name as the folder for the base game so as far as mister with saves it's the same folder. And it works.

[visual sonnet]

Saving seems hit and miss at the moment

[marble sandal]

Yeah I'm not counting on saves much right now but I am putting 3do games on my mister and making sure the file structure accommodates it when it's a bit more stable.

And that trick works for other systems too so you don't have to constantly move around and change save file names

[cunning matrix]

So far Guardian War is working.

[real rapids]

The boxes that appear around the X-Man's car in Need for Speed is finally fixed with today's update! Still need to test further to see if the corruption near the end of the Coastal route's second segment is fixed or not. And I need to see if I can still replicate the pause menu corruption (this one is always difficult to reproduce, as it seems random and doesn't appear super often).

[cunning matrix]

Absolutely love this game.

So, I can get the game to boot, but it won't recognize my controller.

Oh, I need to enable controller for it to do so