Panasonic 3DO

[brazen sandal]

MiSTer "classic"+sdram3.0: 1) Horde, The (Europe) = OK => video run fine & game is playable 2) Night Trap (USA) (Disc 1) = KO see screenshot. This screen appears after the logo of "Digital Pictures":

[silent oak]

nope, doesn't boot at all, even on fresh reset

[dire sinew]

I feel like we need to pin a message in here about this:

Different games are going to boot for different people (and different systems) right now. If you want to help, and you have multiple misters, SRG is looking for a throughline as to why things are booting on some stacks, and not others. If you have a stack that doesn’t boot a game, and a stack that does book a game, you can help by swapping the ram between the two stacks and seeing if the results are the same.

I don’t want to discourage people, but saying something boots on your end when it’s not booting for someone else is not helpful at this stage. It will be helpful at some point, but right now the focus is on stability across systems.

I love you all and thank you for helping SRG test, but we should try to keep the noise down, so when he looks at the channel, he can see keep track of what is happening

[covert wagon]

this old chestnut lol

what core did we do it for last...N64? or Saturn?

[brazen sandal]

Understood. No problems. 🙏

[sinful cliff]

SEGA Saturn. For months people were experiencing RAM lottery, with some people getting better results over others.

[dire sinew]

@crisp zealot using the exact same mister stack, I have a stick that boots microcosm and one that does not. Here are the shots. The first stick (with 3624 on the bottom left) boots microcosm. The second stick (0225) does not. Let me know if you need anything else.

Better shot of the chips. This one boots:

This one does not:

[umbral charm]

If I understand well the request from srg320, can you try to swap the SDRAM don't work to another MiSTer system and check if the game does the same ?

[dire sinew]

yup, one moment

[umbral charm]

I will be back at home in the next hour, Just following some messages here and there.

[forest lichen]

I'm having a problem with the Microcosm with SDRAM 2.9 using standard memory chips (Alliance)

Hangs with small gfx corruption on 3do logo

[dire sinew]

Ok, tested on a stack that was booting microcosm fine. Swapped out the ram stick with the no-boot one and now it's not booting on this stack either.

One stack is a mister pi, one is a de10

working and non working ram on both were RR ram

[forest lichen]

Ram lottery

[dire sinew]

aint no party like a ram lottery party

Swapped the ram back to the working ram that was in it before, and microcosm boots again

[umbral charm]

Touché, thanks for the test.

[crisp zealot]

I recorded some of the original bugs in the games from the original 3DO. https://youtu.be/d1Hzel3uzLo Some of them are noted in the test spreadsheet as issues.

In this regard, the 3DO is on par with the Saturn.

[covert wagon]

This is the rabbit hole haha

But I can’t chat here anymore. I’ve been informed I don’t actually like 3DO 🤣

[sharp pendant]

You got burned by someone who collects biscuits...

[covert wagon]

Damn Brits

[restive oasis]

yeah i thought we all came together and denounced the 3DO and decreed that it is impossible for anyone to like it at the gamer council

i know that oldgamerUK was there but i dont recall seeing biscuit collector there

we might have overlapped with the biscuit conference

[silent oak]

...did I win the lottery?

[umbral charm]

Only for some time.

[brazen sandal]

I'm happy for you...

[bold birch]

Looks like it

[grim goblet]

The real lottery win is if you can run Nishimura Kyoutarou Travel Mystery

[umbral charm]

Please wait until further notice for reporting issues or your tests results.
Thanks.

[brazen sandal]

I don't want to buy a new ram for my MiSTer because the answer is simple: Only this core cause problem at now for some games. I hope there is a solution.

[umbral charm]

We have enough data so far and once again thanks to everyone who shared their results since yesterday.

[silent oak]

Alright, this is my winning ticket for Microcosm

[silent oak]

Will try

of all the games I tried yet only Out of this World didn't boot past the title screen, but Another World did

[real rapids]

I should post a 3DO video on my silly little channel and see if I get the same! I've been a fake fan for 33 years!

[dire sinew]

This is the real lottery

You are the only winner

and I am jealous

[grim goblet]

[raven grove]

For what its worth, the Dolby Surround seems to work fine on FIFA and 3DO Sampler. Not had chance to actually play with it much yet.

[silent oak]

dang, blue screen on Nishimura Kyotarou Travel Mystery

[grim goblet]

I stand alone

[dire sinew]

it truly is a travel mystery

[modest condor]

hola

[real rapids]

Sup

[drowsy phoenix]

Sorry for the trivial question, but the link for the core for the
Version with single ram where is it?

[real rapids]

It's burried in the thread. Not formally posted due to some testing issues with ram lottery.

[umbral charm]

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@drowsy phoenix

[drowsy phoenix]

Thank you very much🤩

[umbral charm]

We are working on it right now, some games could fail to load depending on RAM lottery.

[sullen vale]

Okay, I'm in 😎

Crash 'n' Burn

[bronze sphinx]

I don't see "Load from CD" in the menu when loading the core, what would cause that?

[umbral charm]

Do you have the latest unstable MiSTer Main file ?

[silent oak]

..that should be an option?

[bronze sphinx]

^looks like that. Yes, grabbed the latest unstable MiSTer from the nightlies

[storm moth]

Wasn't load from cd option removed after the first release?

[ashen palm]

this is the latest - not in nightlies yet or pinned
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[bronze sphinx]

Yes, I grabbed the latest 3DO core and nightly MiSTer file

[ashen palm]

ah - then yeah, the load from CD was removed from the latest. Just pick via the Insert Disk menu item

[bronze sphinx]

ah okay. that makes sense then. Now to tackle why it says cd bios missing when its there. Issue with NAS loading instead of local on sd?

[ashen palm]

yeah - make sure the /games/3DO folder on your NAS has the bios files

[bronze sphinx]

might be why. right now they are all on sd and games on NAS, no issues with others, but makes sense for WIP for now. will shift it over and test.

[sinful cliff]

Also it should be "disc", not "disk".

Literally unplayable garbage.

[umbral charm]

We know.

[real rapids]

Tomato tomahto

[bronze sphinx]

Yup, had to move boot.rom to NAS. Everything working now

[tropic basin]

wolf 3d and doom really benefit from that strafing on the shoulder buttons, makes trying to play them on other game pad layouts feel like crap (i was messing about with the dos and jaguar versions earlier today)

[silent oak]

wonder if somehow this distortion can be improved on with time

-# also what the hell, this is a fun version of Rebel Assault I can actually enjoy??

[brazen sandal]

The Doom game on 3DO is a failure; the framerate is terrible on real 3DO, and playing in a small window is absurd. 3DO can do better than that. Only the music tracks are fantastic ! Otherwise, you're better off playing it on the AO486 core for example.

[tropic basin]

well yes but it's still cool

[silent oak]

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OptiDoom is neat

[brazen sandal]

But Becky Burger did what she could in a short amount of time....For save the 3DO version.

[silent oak]

this is mostly Randy's fault

[strange urchin]

Single RAM user here. This 3DO core is honestly pretty amazing already. I was playing some Star Control II earlier today and it brought back alot of great memories. No issues so far during my playthrough.

[dire sinew]

it’s in incredible shape.

[vapid agate]

horrifying

[tropic basin]

i will throw my second ram stick in the bin then

[night escarp]

Gexxin out hard over here! Tail time!.. 👌🔥🤙

Killer work y'all 💪

[storm moth]

Let us know if it freezes after level 3 when it saves

[iron sigil]

curious if anyone else is having CRT issues or if it's just me? works perfectly over HDMI. i'm doing composite out on my end so maybe that specifically isn't supported yet?

it runs on my CRT but kinda does a wacky vertical looping motion situation.

[night escarp]

Will do when I hop back on in a bit here

[night escarp]

Mine booted right up just fine. I use RGB for my connection. Sounds like you got a sync issue of sorts for sure based on what you're describing

What kind of inputs are you using for your CRT connection?

Edit: I see you mentioned composite now

Maybe a blurp you need to add in INI for composite video?

I'm assuming you probably have to define how it syncs

Could also have to with frequency

Some CRTs are much fussier about handling anything less than 60 HZ

[dire sinew]

@iron sigil are you running the latest unstable core and the lastest mister unstable?

[cosmic zenith]

Single RAM user, this time i've been very lucky, every game i've tested worked, also the problematic ones in this thread. The Mister Is a genuine DE10nano with a v2.4 sdram. Only some PAL games does not boot complaining it's and NTSC system, i guess at some point will be and option for the core.

[iron sigil]

i'm not! i was told that was only nessecary for saves. but i got the same issue with that setup when i ran it earlier. (i downloaded the unstable nightly, renamed it, and had the mister.ini point at it for that core.)

[dire sinew]

So many people with composite stuff recently.

And it’s the core from yesterday that you’re running?

20260407

[brazen sandal]

v2.4 ! And you have zero issues(on all cores) with version of sdram ?

[dire sinew]

Give SRG time to cook.

[night escarp]

I mean to be fair, this core already plays the games better than an actual 3DO can, even on single ram 😂🤷 my cousin left his at my house for a little while and we had a fun little weekend where we deep dived on it. The actual hardware is so clunky

I swear one of these days I'm going to make it past stage 2 on Gex. I always just get to stage 2 and die a bunch falling in the acid, then stop playing it forever

Excited to see it progress though! This is awesome so far

[distant grove]

What games "run better"

[iron sigil]

correcto!

[dire sinew]

I will test composite at some point tomorrow

[ashen palm]

composite looks fine for me (analog IO v9.2 board and MA YC adapter)

even without a yc.txt timing yet

[dire sinew]

@iron sigil I just noticed you said it happens in the OSD too. can you share your mister.ini? And let's move to #help

[iron sigil]

you got it!

[night escarp]

I was exaggerating a bit. I'm mostly referring to how clunky the disc drives can be when playing a real 3dO so by default this is really smooth and fast so far. Gex was running quite well for me. I dropped into few other games but like most 3dO's lineup it can be hard to keep your attention unless there's something you have a hankering for

I enjoy some of those consoles just for the archival sake and fun to see where they were trying to take games at the time

One of these days though, I intend to finish Gex

[fervent sedge]

Great work! Stupid question, but if I don't want to run the update-all script, where can I download the single ram 3DO core by itself? Is there a github?

[dire sinew]

should be in the pins

[fervent sedge]

Dual was under the pins, but I didn't see single. I found your post on the forum though, so I think I am good.

Thanks!

[dire sinew]

oh ok, sorry, @marble jetty is asleep at the wheel

[signal mango]

Have you been able to compare the two? It would be cool to learn first hand.

[signal mango]

This is a really interesting perspective. ty.

[round tangle]

If only there was another mod around that could update the pins

[spring basin]

they're very territorial

[dire sinew]

I can’t edit his messages (otherwise I would)

Mods cannot police other mods. We are all judges

[dawn raft]

Is the 3DO core in a repo yet then?

[ivory ingot]

Yes but there are no compiled rbfs in it

https://github.com/srg320/3DO_MiSTer

The WIP DB repo has the core rbfs though https://github.com/ajgowans/wip/tree/main/_Unstable

[fervent sedge]

Getting a NVRAM error trying to play Need for Speed, but I see it listed as having issues, so I assume that is expected currently?

[dire sinew]

Do you have the latest mister main unstable?

Should be dated 260406

[sullen vale]

Single ram core

[marble jetty]

I got a lot of catching up to do

I’m too busy firing grenade launchers and submachine guns

which isn’t a joke, that’s what I’ve honestly been doing lol

[ivory ingot]

Hope you've been firing grenade launchers and submachine guns at Raspberry Pis

[distant grove]

Like software on PS1 and Saturn, 3do games also tend to stream assets. If you're experiencing a game running "better" (need for speed, doom, killing time, etc...) these games are heavy cdrom usage. A dogged out 3do is going to have streaming issue with some games. I have an older launch PS1 from Japan and a US PS1, both have issues on games that are heavy on asset streaming. Audio pops, games freeze frame waiting on an asset, etc.. so if a game that isn't heavy on streaming is running better, that's a core inaccuracy and don't be surprised if that game gets worse as the core gets dialed in

[distant grove]

I don't have a mister. But I've been peaking in on videos people post on YouTube. Mk2 having slowdown is not normal. I won't make comments on many other games until the graphical glitches started to get weeded out

[signal mango]

This is a mister server

[distant grove]

Yes

[signal mango]

I recommend mister

[distant grove]

I join servers where I am linked where 3do talk is frequent

[distant grove]

I've been eyeing the superstation, but haven't pulled a trigger and didn't want to give it much thought until the 3do core hit its single stick update

[ivory ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-13066208

[signal mango]

Do you only play 3do

[distant grove]

Besides, trapexit just got a super station and bacon is a big 3do person. If it was just me, id be more on top of things

[distant grove]

Can I answer honestly lol

[signal mango]

How do you know if 3do is great when you can't compare it to something worse like jaguar

[distant grove]

I played every other system my entire life. Shit got boring after 20+ years. 3do was the green goblin mask calling to me

[signal mango]

Ah gotcha. Like the Jim Carrey movie.

[distant grove]

Yeah well, there is this thing called objective reality lol

Intuition, if you will

[signal mango]

I will

[distant grove]

His movies are like Adam Sandler movies. They all have this fill-in-the-blank script where they essentially play cards against humanity but with millions of dollars

[signal mango]

Like a mad libs

[fair wave]

Composite is slightly off right now, Sergiy is still playing with the video clock, once he doubles it from 24.5454 it should be accurate again. Gotta let him cook

Just in case the dozens of you with composite are wondering

[signal mango]

I haven't tried composite yet on the core because i didn't think it'd be working. I really appreciate your work and mostly play consoles on composite.

[iron sigil]

i appreciate the heads up! i was just making sure i wasn't doing anything wrong on my end. i appreciate the brain trust's work and am in no rush

[weary rain]

the lone renegade

it really is an interesting system to play around with

[weary rain]

If Taki released a colorway of it based on the Goldstar/LG Alive II, I’d bet you change your tune

[distant grove]

An fz1 mini would suffice

[forest lichen]

Fz1 looks the best to me

[untold fog]

That FPS just looks like a fake game you would see someone playing in a movie or something 🤣

[weary rain]

it literally was just fake cgi bullshit iirc

[distant grove]

Almost every tech demo is

[weary rain]

Years before Sony at E3 2006 😂

[distant grove]

"this is what we expect the games to look like"

3do showed their first playable 3d tech demo off in 92 or early 93 and got fucking hounded by some journalist over it because it was running a dev station instead of a 3do unit. Then you get shit over the cgi stuff anyway. Might as well just show the cgi shit

https://youtu.be/fZpj9tGOmxg?si=RdGl1J7vgytM6yK6

M2 looked like cgi despite running on actual hardware tbh. This demo looks like some shit Nintendo would have tried to say their system could run, but it's really just being played on a cgi workstation

@covert wagon get us the demo now!!

[tropic basin]

turns out you can map 3do doom and wolf3d to a 360 pad quite nicely

still digital input but found it much more intuitive

[weary rain]

yea M2 was legit

but I wonder how it would’ve compared to the 6th gen

Or would it be considered 5th gen like N64

[visual sonnet]

it was supposed to come out in 96/97 so 5th gen i would think

[cosmic zenith]

I had issues with the first versions of Saturn core, before the changes in the sdram usage, like many others had. With 3do core it seems i have no issues by now.

[distant grove]

Would have had the same issue as the Dreamcast. Outperformed the 5th gen beyond a doubt but been handicapped by the time the inevitable 6th gen rolled around

[proper sparrow]

Wasn't the Dreamcast the same gen as the PS2? They had the Saturn as competitor for the PS1.

[distant grove]

Yeah. Statement still rolls off the tongue well for the Dreamcast too though. It was clearly a leap, but it had no DVD drive.

[restive oasis]

m2 seems closer to n64 than dreamcast and ps2 (i have no authority to make this statement)

[proper sparrow]

it was a huge leap compared to the saturn but the PS1 to PS2 leap was just too much and also DVD player finished it off.

[restive oasis]

sony marketing overplayed the capatabilities of the ps2 quite a bit too as far im aware

[distant grove]

N64 shark tech demo versus M2 dolphin demo, nuff said

[sinful cliff]

PS1 tech T. Rex clears both

[distant grove]

Dc could emulate PS1. Compared to even the n64 DC is a huge leap. Internal and Display Resolution alone is enough to set a pretty high bar. GTA 3 on Dreamcast proves the hardware could keep up in some manner to the PS2. It's ultimate kill shot was the GDROM. But even so, gta3 clearly fits on a cdrom, I'm sure a GDROM version would have been fine

[distant grove]

Please be mister server dry humor please be mister server dry humor

[restive oasis]

we do have gamecube which also has discs with not much room

[distant grove]

200mb more plus it's Nintendo. Plus they were gonna pump out their own software regardless of who else would publish, and the system still didn't sell well. It's Nintendo though. They dropped the VB, then acted like it didn't exist lol

If my memory serves correctly, Sega documents implied they were simply out of money too.

[ember seal]

the only ps2 games that fill entire DVDs do it almost entirely with FMV anyway

[distant grove]

A lot of games were like that after the whole multimedia craze unfortunately

[ember seal]

i mean, its a reasonable thing to do with the space if you have it anyway

but i expect dreamcast could of hung in there , it'd be similar to xbox360s dvds vs ps3s blurays

[distant grove]

NFS for the 3do fills the entire disc. Once you open it, remove the FMV's and repack it, it's 340mb compared to the 670mb lol

[distant grove]

The only thing Blu-ray on PS3 benefited from was the games that were multidisc by default. Other than that, most of them were on low capacity BD because they were ported from Xbox. Sony couldn't strong arm their way like they had with PS2.

[ember seal]

some ps3 games have massively better fmv quality just from using BD, that was kinda it though

and often you were getting a worse running version of the game with slightly better fmv so not really a clear win

i guess ps3 games had a lot more lossless audio too

[distant grove]

The Xbox 360 was designed to be dev friendly as far as architecture is concerned. No one wanted to take the time to learn the CELL shit

[covert wagon]

Haha yeah right

[restive oasis]

devs in 2007 were casual and frauds and couldnt HANDLE THE UNLIMITED POWER OF THE CELL PROCESSOR

they were also lazy

of course

even these days non-lazy devs can get more power out of the CELL than ps5 pro because the cell has unlimited processing power

[distant grove]

After hearing the horror stories of workplace environments like Rockstar San Diego, I can see why some devs don't feel like dealing with advanced architecture

[ember seal]

tbh both of those consoles could produce really impressive results in the right hands, it was a good generation

[sinful cliff]

I'm assuming having separate 640×480i and 320×240p options will eventually happen?

Right now it's outputing at a weird 640×240p, which I'm guessing is just a placeholder?

[covert wagon]

Id have to pull an Oceans 69 at Bitrates house

[umbral charm]

I'm testing Nishimura Keitarou Travel Mystery - Akugyaku no Kisetsu since yesterday.
Interesting game.

[covert wagon]

one of the best "goes hard" cover art examples on 3DO

still number 1 for me

[umbral charm]

Ah, Kurokishi no Kamen!

I need to test it on the core, just for science.

[turbid glade]

Is it working for you ? On my side it is blue screen after 3D0 logo

[umbral charm]

Let me try within 10 minutes, I'm finishing a game of Neo Turf Masters Scotland right now (enjoying my day-off).

[covert wagon]

look what you made me do

[umbral charm]

I'm now an influencer on the 3DO...

[covert wagon]

I didnt realize it was so cheap. I need that on display

[covert wagon]

stop looking over my shoulder

[umbral charm]

Some 3DO games seem cheap at the moment, yeah.

[covert wagon]

the random japanese stuff is always a good price so long as its in the US and you aren't buying from a Japanese seller

[dire sinew]

Jolly beardo is the only one that I have seen that has travel mystery booting on the current core. Truly they are blessed

[umbral charm]

Just be patient

[covert wagon]

Cheaper than a small pizza

[turbid glade]

regarding your comment I think it is working also on your side ^^

[umbral charm]

I almost finished the first disc late night yesterday.

I was lucky with the SS1 this time.

[turbid glade]

ok !

[marble jetty]

pins pupdated

[umbral charm]

Ghost Hunter Series - Kurokishi no Kamen (Rev 1) works for me.

[vapid swallow]

threw the single core on my misterpi superstation one, runs pretty well overall.

[sullen vale]

Does anyone have a link to the translated version?

[storm moth]

I don't think one exists for the 3DO

[true sentinel]

Microcosm (JP) / bin+cue - playable
MD5: 465fdc3bfd701fae4f660a1a1c7c8373

Microcosm (USA) / bin+cue - freezes when displaying the "T&E Soft presents" publisher logo
MD5: f680353429def4d3c1e95120fd9c503f

[covert wagon]

(sadly there is no translation for the 3DO version)

[true sentinel]

There is an English version for Sega Saturn.

[umbral charm]

Nope, no translation.
We need a new formation/return of JunkerHQ & Artemio!

Don't need to report games that are freezing or gives a black screen at the moment.
And wait until further notice, thanks.

[covert wagon]

Honestly if we could figure out the encoding format for the text on 3DO the translation exists so it wouldn't be too heavy of a lift. Maybe @tender crystal you know?

[dire sinew]

_taps [sign](#1329170138234097745 message) _

[sullen vale]

one more 😎

Super Street Fighter II Turbo (USA) (RE2).chd

[lilac knoll]

Camny’s looking good!

Crazy how quickly single ram and analog out came about for this even if still beta

I’m getting flashbacks to the N64 frenzy

[covert wagon]

its fun to see the opposite methodology of core releases; Srg gave us Saturn when it barely did anything and we were entertained by checking for updates when more games started working. 3DO released 95% fully baked and no its in the home stretch already

[vestal steppe]

He also released 32x almost finished

[sullen vale]

Lemmings ✅

All saved

[vocal meadow]

I have downloaded the most recent unstable main and the bios and renamed it boot.rom when I try to play wolf3d, I see the 3do logo with a red background and then it just goes black and stays there. I have tried this with the bin and cue version and the chd format. Does anyone have any idea how I can get this to work? I am using the single version

[gloomy flint]

Just love how Lemmings is basically just a 2600 game that has a couple 16 bit elements and allows multiple characters on screen.

[umbral charm]

Did you added the BIOS file manually ?

There are multiple of BIOS files for the 3DO, but only one works with the core.

[vocal meadow]

I ran update all and it chose it

Just getting a black screen after the 3do logo when I try to run the game

I just ran update all and let it add the bios

[umbral charm]

OKay, so not a BIOS issue.

[umbral charm]

What is the format of your game ? BIN ? ISO ? CHD ?
What type of MiSTer do you use ? Single ? Dual ? Original or clone board ?

[tall marsh]

now that ive had a chance to give it a spin i maintain the best home console port of MK2 is still the genesis version and i will die on that hill

[dire sinew]

that's correct

[tall marsh]

it could be my imagination but i think even the 32x version on mister has slowdown not present on genny

[dire sinew]

32x, specifically

[vocal meadow]

Bin and Cue

ive also tried CHD

I have a single

[dire sinew]

there was, but I think that is fixed now

[vocal meadow]

and it's a clone

[tall marsh]

oh shit

the viewport on the 3do vers is so zoomed in the sega one looks widescreen in comparison lol

not to shit all over the homebrew version or anything

[untold fog]

I remember the nonsense about it being able to guide missiles

[umbral charm]

I have a lot of trouble measuring whether the 32x core exhibits slowdowns on MKII, but that's another topic, and we're talking about 3DO here.

[tall marsh]

i had a hell of a time mapping controls for the 3do mk2

of course sometimes mapping mk controls is hard even in the legacy kollection

[marble jetty]

What game

[tall marsh]

mk2

[marble jetty]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

Good homebrew?

port I mean

[dire sinew]

its fine

but it's not as good as 32x

looks better

[marble jetty]

Oh wow!

Does that imply the 32X port is really good?

[tall marsh]

mk1 and 2 on genesis had cool matt furniss soundtracks too so for me they'll never totally be replaced

but i cant wait for the arcade cores

[dire sinew]

it's the best home port

[marble jetty]

amazing

[dire sinew]

The 3DO one gets the damage messed up. you get put into danger and can still take 2 full hits

nothing does enough damage

[tall marsh]

the cpu ai is weird

[marble jetty]

The Arcade Edition patch?

[dire sinew]

ya

[obsidian pine]

The 3DO version is fun for the Easter eggs but if I really want to play MK2 it’s the 32x version.

[marble jetty]

I had no idea that was such a good port

I added it to my MiSTer though lol

[tall marsh]

the 32x had more good games on it than the 3do 😟

[umbral charm]

Thank you for all this information, unfortunately I can only advise you to wait until the next core version and you will have the possibility to try Wolf3D once again.

Sorry for the wait, but the core is still in WIP version (that's why it's not in the MiSTer-devel branch either) and it is necessary to adapt the core code and carry out further testing.

[tall marsh]

this core rules though

i sold my fz-1 ten years ago or so

[vocal meadow]

okay got it working Zet-Sensei

my friend honkey kong sent me the correct bios file. that made it work

I am also able to do the in game level save and restore which is nice

thanks everyone for their help. very fun game

@tired flicker thank you

[umbral charm]

Okay, strange as you said before about the BIOS being pushed by Update_All.

[tired flicker]

For the record, it was panafz1.bin that worked.

[umbral charm]

Yes, we know it, but why is it an incorrect BIOS that was pushed ?

Update_all should push the correct one immediately.

[tired flicker]

Yeah, you'd think so.

Maybe @vocal meadow just got a bad download?

[umbral charm]

MD5Sum is a touchy subject here.

[tired flicker]

His BIOS was showing a blue screen, which was new to me.

Oops, didn't know.

[umbral charm]

I learned that the other day and saw a message from Robby passing by about that subject.

Thanks.

Anyway, thanks for the help.

[tired flicker]

No problem. I was in the process of making it work myself.

[umbral charm]

And enjoy the 3DO core @vocal meadow

[vocal meadow]

thanks @umbral charm , I appreciate it. You as well!

[umbral charm]

Okay, the core will now work for everyone.

srg320 had to add some more memory refreshes for some SDRAM chips.

[dire sinew]

I am already building

[real rapids]

It's 3DO day!

[umbral charm]

That's the reason for the illegal instructions on my end, and the black screens or why some people could load or not some games.

[real rapids]

Always brings a tear to my eye when I see a new build drop and so much activity in this thread. 🥲

[umbral charm]

Nishimura Keitarou Travel Mystery - Akugyaku no Kisetsu, MicroCosm & Kurokishi no Kamen for everyone. 🎉

[turbid glade]

for the quick fix

[dire sinew]

Travel mystery still blue screening for me. I will never solve it :/

[grim goblet]

Try it as a CHD 🙂

[dire sinew]

some mysteries must stay mysteries

[dire sinew]

https://tenor.com/bD1Ad.gif

[turbid glade]

same for me no luck

[timid mason]

no linking roms please

[sullen vale]

sorry

[vapid swallow]

Is there a specific 3DO game that is known to give problems with the single ram core?

Want to give it a shot

[tender crystal]

Games probably do their own thing. I've never looked at Policenauts.

[sullen vale]

No luck with Microcosm (USA)

[vapid swallow]

Thx, uploading it now will checkt it out

[forest lichen]

for me Microcosm boots fine now

[sullen vale]

new core 3DO_20260409? I haven't tried with this update.

[vapid swallow]

Looks good chief

[forest lichen]

yes

[vapid swallow]

On latest core srg just dropped and on superstation (bottom right of pic)

[sullen vale]

i'll try later, thanks!

[vapid swallow]

This game looks like you are flying through someone's anus

[dire sinew]

The game to try is Nishimura Kyoutarou Travel Mystery - Akugyaku no Kisetsu - Tokyo Nanki Shirahama Renzoku Satsujin Jiken (Japan)

as that game only boots for like 3 people

God's chosen

[vapid swallow]

Let me check those

I feel lucky

[dire sinew]

it's one game

[grim goblet]

only when compressed as a CHD for me

[dire sinew]

goddamnit am I really making a CHD of this

[vapid swallow]

Indeed you are

[dire sinew]

didn't they just release a front end for chdman

[sullen vale]

The game is a rail shooter where the player navigates small craft through the human body

[umbral charm]

#software-emulation message

[dire sinew]

lol i hate everything

well, now I need to get to solving this mystery

[grim goblet]

Glad to have you on the team

[vapid swallow]

Iso of travel mystery

[dire sinew]

The man in the phone booth is dead

[sullen vale]

Remember tha game, BlueMaxx

[dire sinew]

the lesson: don't go into phone booths

Ok, well, core's done I guess. Great work everyone

[vapid swallow]

Chd

[grim goblet]

it's true, seal of the pharaoh seems perfect now, core's done.

[vapid swallow]

Where do I sign the membership form

[real rapids]

But muh Need for Speed!

[vapid swallow]

It is crazy how many games are on 3do. Obviously debateable how many are good, just don't remember this many being available back in the day.

[real rapids]

Still no swing gauge in PGA Tour. 🏌️‍♂️

[untold fog]

Hard mode XD

[real rapids]

I made it onto the fairway!

[umbral charm]

The core isn't done, in the future we will have multi-disc support, and PAL support too.

[untold fog]

It lacks multi-disk support? In what way? Don't you just load the second disk?

[grim goblet]

The core freezes when switching discs

[dawn raft]

It is really weird to me that consoles became standardized right around the time of game engines

[weary rain]

how are the porn games on the console? they seem corny in a way only 20th century pornography can be

[zenith dragon]

Quick question about this behavior on SSF2T (rev 2):

I’m seeing these fixed white blocks on the speed selection menu (behind “1 2 3”). They don’t move and stay static regardless of the option selected.

Is this expected behavior (original hardware quirk), or is it a bug with the core?

For reference, here’s a photo of what I’m seeing

[distant grove]

@tender crystal

Your skipx question is answered

[hybrid lotus]

In this long play video the box around the numbers appear to blink

[umbral charm]

That's a bug in the core.

[hybrid lotus]

Obviously I dont know if this was captured from R.E.A.L hardware or emulator

[tender crystal]

Would be a bug. It should move. But sounds like he addressed the incorrect "skipx cel feature is only for unpacked cels" issue in emulators. On my todo list to fix in Opera.

[grim goblet]

If they don't say it specifically in the video, or write it in the description, assume it's an emulator

[tender crystal]

To get technical... for some reason Capcom, rather than literally positioning that box over the number, its actually positioned like 12 pixels off then 12 pixels are skipped from the left. It's weird.

[hybrid lotus]

Yeah I did, I just thought I would take the effort to spell real with the dots xD

[zenith dragon]

Here’s a video showing the issue:

[umbral charm]

Taken from a friend 16 years ago.

[untold fog]

But how do we know that 16 year old photo is not from an emulator?

[umbral charm]

Some people recorded themselves on VHS or DVD-R back then, for Superplays videos.

[tender crystal]

Because emulators have a bug and don't render it correctly... including mine 😉

[untold fog]

I recorded gameplay on vhs and DVD-Rs just for myself too XD

[dire sinew]

Where is the hotsauce guy

I need someone to confirm this picture's legitimacy

[untold fog]

We have a hotsauce guy?

I thought I was the hotsauce guy XD

[tender crystal]

No... but Opera is based on Freedo (as all of them) and that bug is OG.

And Freedo is over 20 years old

[untold fog]

Last time I tried an emulated game in Opera it was a joke of a mess with vertical lines everywhere

Ok, it was technically Chrome, but same engine underneath

[bronze sphinx]

Super Wing Commander gets past the title screen now, but no buttons are recognized to start new game

[dire sinew]

disable pad 2 and reset the core

[silent oak]

is that the game's bug?

[dire sinew]

Not sure

[umbral charm]

https://youtu.be/zpzwXQqWCkc?si=dq47c7PqkPzRsRhl&t=73

For the exact moment with a real system.

[bronze sphinx]

That worked. Childhood restored!

[lunar cave]

I had a 3DO back in 1995 Wing Commander III blew my mind back then It was crazy I couldn‘t this was an actual video game It’s still an excellent title

[oak owl]

I think it is a core bug, once you actually connect a second controller (not just enable it in the settings), the first controller starts working.

[tribal sandal]

It would be interesting to have a 50hz option for nostalgia as my fz-1 pal machine runs at that speed

[lunar cave]

So PAL games don‘t run on the core at the moment?

[silent oak]

Another World did for me, but at 60hz

I noticed a lot of 3DO games are (USA, Europe) so I assume they had NTSC/PAL modes baked in

[spark tiger]

Super Street Figher II Turbo Germany also works fine, but i runs in 60Hz anyway.

They didn't translate anything ingame, it's practically just the NTSC version.

[ashen palm]

today's new build is running everything I can throw at it - awesome

[spark tiger]

Of all games i'm just playing Shanghai. And it's still fun (like 35 years ago on the Amiga). 😆

[vapid swallow]

If any of the devs need me to test anything on real hardware let me know. I actually own a lot of the more popular games on the system as well.

[spark tiger]

I really like the music from the PC-Engine CD version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7Dki0I6-w

[night escarp]

Bunch games working like butter now that I updated to the unstable Main, and the latest unstable RBF. Looooving it. I didn't give 3d0 enough credit w/ my last comment. I do love me some Road Rash on 3dO!..

also some Corpse Killer, can't go wrong!..

[fossil sorrel]

Hot damn! This 3DO core so good I'm about to slap somebody!

https://tenor.com/view/slap-chappelle-show-dave-chappelle-gif-13886884020245664410

[marble jetty]

I did not know those were beads, that's pretty cool. @fossil sorrel you profile picture rocks

I already prefer the MiSTer core over the 3DO emulator in Retroarch, someone tell me how wrong or right I am

[grim goblet]

Not having to use Retroarch is always a win

[marble jetty]

Ur a bare metal emulator

[bronze sphinx]

Wing Commander is still so good. Got hit by an asteroid and all my cockpit scanners were destroyed. Guess I'm flying blind on this mission

[dire sinew]

I could probably be convinced to kill in the name of getting a second Freelancer

[brazen sandal]

Last 3DO core version is OUT "3DO_20260409.rbf" ! MICROCOSM work now on my MiSTer ! 🤪 🙏 FMV = ok ! Thank you very much 😉

[dire sinew]

You don't need to post it again, Tim. It's posted above, my friend

[brazen sandal]

Oh sorry, i didn't see that. That's ok.

[gloomy flint]

Like for example, what it says on the title screen

[marble jetty]

ong they replaced the Toasth guy with Frip Bawkins lmao

Trip Hawkins

[tender crystal]

The more ways to play the better. I've shared a lot of details with srg so he can build his core. This isn't a competition. RA and libretro has lots of issues and I'll be the first to admit them. There is still a place for software emulation and Opera. Especially as I get time to work on my "3DO Opera v1.5" hardware project which currently might not be plausable on MiSTer.

And for development work (besides the obvious traditional usecases)

[zenith dragon]

Would it be too soon to open a GitHub issue?

[dire sinew]

yes

[umbral charm]

A little bit.

We know about it already.

[fossil sorrel]

Thanks brosef! My daughter made it. It was the only photo on my tablet when I went to choose a picture for my avatar all those years ago...

[sinful cliff]

Lucienne's Quest has this pixel flickering effect throughout the game, most apparent during a battle.

I'm assuming this isn't intentional, since I've seen footage where this doesn't happen.

[dire sinew]

we are going to need dual ram to fix that

[umbral charm]

Hush, you!

[grim goblet]

I found some footage on youtube that claimed to be captured from a real system with the pixelfx hdmi mod, and it shows that pixel flickering.

https://youtu.be/eshz3LS0V5Q?t=1565

[sinful cliff]

Hmm... seems to be a lot more pronounced in my footage.

[grim goblet]

it is more pronounced on the core yes, but it does seem to exist on real hardware, it's quite noticeable on the dirt walls of the terrain, to the sides of the battlefield

[dire sinew]

For those who want to enjoy the majesty of 3DO in the background, SAM now supports the core (thanks @simple sinew)

[visual sonnet]

i doubt trap cares either way

[dire sinew]

So, amusingly, the 2nd disc of travel mystery loads just fine as bin/cue

Nevermind, I lied, this is the CHD of disc 1. It was complaining about disc 2 and I just assumed it was telling me i had the wrong disc inserted

[grim goblet]

Mystery solved! You did it!

[dire sinew]

https://tenor.com/bbK2F.gif

[night escarp]

Is there a clever way to do a custom controller config for let's say juuust Mortal Kombat II?

[grim goblet]

Yes. I believe it would involve MGL files, and a setname

[storm moth]

So new build is working well for everyone now? Just getting around to playing with it, Gex saves without freezing so that's a good sign

[night escarp]

Sooo good. Corpse killer is playing stellar. Very impressed how smooth the FMV playback is on single RAM

[signal mango]

Would you say it's the best version of Corpse Killer you've ever played?

[ruby mulch]

i was going to ask if samurai shodown plays like 25fps is an known issue, then realized from youtube videos that's how the 3do version is

[night escarp]

Ummm to be honest, I haven't put enough time into the Sega CD version to compare. It's playing super solid though

Crash n burn running fantastic too

[signal mango]

Did you know there is a Saturn version?

I'll expect a full report on my desk Monday morning.

[real rapids]

Haven't tested it on the latest core yet, but a couple builds ago the game was great until the last track on the first circuit. The one that is in the sky on the glass like road. Some pretty bad graphical corruption on that one.

[distant grove]

Crash n burn is actually a pretty decent technical show piece.

[real rapids]

It especially was at launch. I was blown away by it at the time.

[distant grove]

Despite being a mediocre racer, the zero pop in and render distance makes a lot of people think it's FMV for some reason lol

[night escarp]

Samurai showdown is running excellent also

[marble sandal]

I get a bit of graphical corruption at the top of the screen in need for speed. Nothing too bad tho.

[distant grove]

Also not to mention the infinite scrolling plane used for the clouds. I forget cnb had those

[marble sandal]

It will be nice to try out more games for 3do on mister. I only had like 5 games when I owned a 3do

This already runs better than any software emulator Ive tried.

[elder skiff]

Hi guys! A friend of mine, a great player of beat 'em up, played SF2 on the latest beta of core and said that the game seems to be running a little too fast for him, is it true or simply the 3DO conversion is made so?

[true sentinel]

Hello everyone. Could you please explain to me, step by step, how to use save/load states?
Thanks

[ivory ingot]

There are no steps as this core doesn't save states

[grand nest]

Having played it for over 3hrs last night in VS and owning a 3DO with the Japanese SSF2X, the speed is identical. Is he used to running the PAL version? That has borders and does run slower on R.E.A.L hardware

[elder skiff]

I will ask him, thanks!

[marble jetty]

As a reminder; this is like week TWO of the core being public. There are going to be visual and audio bugs, game speed being too fast or slow, and stuff just not working.

Thanks for posting your experiences in this chat, and especially a huge thank you for comparing to real hardware. If you can please update the Testing Sheet with your findings - #1329170138234097745 message

ATTENTION!

Please consider donating to @crisp zealot on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/srg320

He works incredibly hard to make all these amazing cores and every donation helps. If any of his cores (SNES, Saturn, 3DO, etc.) has ever brought you joy, you can show him appreciation by donating at the link above. Every little bit helps!

[crisp zealot]

I don't quite understand. Are there some nuances to the SKPX feature?

[empty valley]

That version of Corpse Killer drives me crazy. It's the Graveyard Edition and supposed to be the definitive edition bc it includes extra content, BUT it has no light gun support. Talk about fumbling that release. So by that alone the 3DO version is probably the definitive edition

The only bigger botched light gun release imo is Revolution X. It released on many platforms, and not a single one had light gun support lol

[signal mango]

We don't have lightguns on 3do right?

[weak hound]

And if you’ve pinged the poor guy on here and you’re not donating, doubly consider it. His life is responding to @s now. A life of horror. Aka Robby’s life

[signal mango]

So maybe Sega cd is best

[empty valley]

Sega CD+32X you mean lol

[signal mango]

Good lord

[empty valley]

There were only 6 Sega CD/32X games. All were Digital Pictures games. Go figure

[signal mango]

i meant for mister users

[empty valley]

3DO version of Corpse Killer has light gun support so I'd say it's the best version

[signal mango]

Sega cd/32x games are cursed

[empty valley]

Would've been cool to see the power of the Sega CD+32X for non-FMV games, but only the most die hard of Sega fans had both a Sega CD and a 32X

[signal mango]

Most die hard or most spoiled children.

[tender crystal]

Yes, if you read the docs it suggests that SKIPX flag is only for unpacked.

And I suspect that is why software emulators have not implemented it.

The only place I know packed skipx being used (obviously so because of the distortions it causes) is SSF2T speed select

I debugged the problem maybe over a year ago but haven't fixed it in Opera yet.

[crisp zealot]

Oh, right, I found that in the documentation. Thanks.

[tender crystal]

np

Many had asked about it for years and when I first was debugging it I was really confused as it just seemed to be 12 pixels off but the code seemed fine. Then finally I noticed it was packed cel and had skipx enabled and had recently reread the docs that talked about skipx and its suggestion it was only for unpacked and it clicked.

[ember seal]

ooh are we getting fpga core/software emulator development synergy? love to see it

[tender crystal]

@ember seal we've been casually chatting for some time 🙂

I've shared all my documentation with him.

(Not that most of it wasn't already public)

[ember seal]

documentation is one thing but actual dialog is even better 🙂

[tender crystal]

True. We aren't communicating daily but I'm here for him any time he has questions (and anyone else for that matter.)

I've read said docs probably too many times 😄

[hybrid lotus]

Putt putt joins the parade works from start to finish 🙂

[distant ibex]

can´t load .chd files from external drive, single ram user,

[dire sinew]

are they listed? or does the folder appear empty?

[distant ibex]

folder is empty (CHD-3DO from archive....), now I will try bin cue

[dire sinew]

try putting one CHD is it's own folder and see if that folder shows up (and if selecting allows you to load it

[distant ibex]

update all fix it, thanks a lot!

[hybrid lotus]

I also finished Putt-Putt goes to the moon on the core 🙂

[dire sinew]

cores done

[empty valley]

One of my all-time favorite childhood games on my PC. I was thrilled when I learned there was a 3DO version. Can't wait to play through it 🙂

[hybrid lotus]

My other half loves the putt putt games and asked me if we could play some today so I thought hmmmm I could test them on the 3DO core 🙂

[covert wagon]

Killing Time is perfect. Core truly is done

I 100%’d it last night. Zero issues minus one line of pink pixels

[dire sinew]

the core is really in wild shape

[covert wagon]

I did a bonus video that’s just “the core is perfect…for me” 🤣

[real rapids]

One line of pink pixels you say!?

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[covert wagon]

Garbage! Send it back

[obsidian pine]

I would love a quality book covering the 3DO, like from geeksline or someone.

[royal gazelle]

ok so using superstation one and i get the bios to load and i get in to the gui but with nothing but the background. Kanji rom is there and have tried multiple ISO images none working. Anone run into this?

[umbral charm]

Do you have the latest unstable Main MiSTer file too ?

[royal gazelle]

no i have not done an update all on it, was creating a new sd to have a fresh one and make sure that is not an issue

[umbral charm]

So that must be the cause.
We need the latest unstable MiSTer main for adding some support of 3DO discs, otherwise the core can't see or load the data on the discs.

Some commits of srg320 from March 23, 2026 & March 30, 2026 on the Main MiSTer file are required for the core to function fully.

The last stable version was on March 25, 2026.

So in-between.

[dire sinew]

if you're using stable main, the english roms will load, but you cannot save, and anything that requires the kanji rom won't work

[umbral charm]

I didn't go into that much detail for end users.

Thanks.

[rare mirage]

I need help. Need for Speed ​​keeps giving me the "NVRAM Full" error. Is there a way to get around it, or do I have to wait for a core update? I have the latest core version and the latest unstable main. Thanks.

[dire sinew]

delete 3DO.cfg in your /config folder

[rare mirage]

I'll try it right away, thanks

[umbral charm]

We had a similar case with Alone in the Dark.

Deleting 3DO.cfg inside the /config folder is the right solution too.

I'm leaving that message if we need it one day for helping other users.

[rare mirage]

In the config folder I only have the config input (3DO_imput.map) no 3DO.cfg, nothing in nvram 🙁

[sinful cliff]

Maybe try deleting the core and get a fresh build. Always a possibility it got corrupted somehow.

[spark tiger]

I can't save any game at all.

[dire sinew]

Another thing to check, assuming you have been around a while, is to make sure that you don't have the custom MiSTer line in your ini

[spark tiger]

Auto save is enabled, load/save ingame works (e.g. Sherlock Holmes) but after restarting the core no saves are there.

[grim goblet]

You need the latest unstable main for the saves to actually commit to a file. You need to open the OSD after saving to trigger that. Saves ingame have worked since day 1, but they were never commited to disk and lost upon loading a different core, or shutting off your mister.

[spark tiger]

I have everything in place

[dire sinew]

Jack, can you try deleting the 3DO.cfg file?

It is causing some weirdness with saves

so better to clear that out just to be sure

[spark tiger]

Tried that too a few minutes ago.

[dire sinew]

ok

Has anyone confirmed that saving works with the latest core?

[spark tiger]

external SSD shouldn't be a problem, right?

[dire sinew]

shouldn't be

I'm saving to a NAS

so that should be fine

[spark tiger]

09.04

Mister is 05.04

[iron tundra]

Hey, @crisp zealot , if you tire of visual glitches, here's an audio one. In Shockwave the engine sound instead being a nice low hum with a little white noise mixed in, is a pitched tone (right in the metal-splinter-to-center-of-your-brain range) much higher and louder than it should be. Maybe some effect in the audio DSP is not implemented or the wrong flag is being applied. The issue is in both Shockwave and Operation Jumpgate but not in Shockwave 2 (at least not the first ground mission).

[dire sinew]

I'm on 06.04. is that a bespoke main that I rolled or is that a legit unstable

oh it's just the SNI stuff for SNES

so it wouldn't matter

Only one way to test

[forest lichen]

The best is to delete save files, and try again

[grim goblet]

I can absolutely verify that saves are loading from previous cores, in Escape from Monster Manor and Killing time, on the current unstable main. And saves are saving properly in the current core and unstable main in Killing Time.

[true palm]

But one of them was Snatcher 🙂

[tight magnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPXsZuFj7XY

[dire sinew]

I am not sure how gex saves

but it did not save

beat a level and rebooted (after opening the OSD)

[spark tiger]

Ah, deleting the saves for Sherlock Holmes and trying again worked. Very strange. It was a fresh save game, from a few minutes ago that didn't work.

[forest lichen]

Same for need for speed

Delete old save

[true palm]

I can. I got CHDs working on TransFS earlier. Zaparoo’s remote launcher doesn’t support it, but manually launching worked just fine.

Edit - Ignore me, discord wasn’t synced, I see you fixed it.

[umbral charm]

The game saves after the 3 first levels, if I remember well.

[dire sinew]

well there you go

[umbral charm]

My brain is some 'jello' after a long day at work here.
For today, I will just test some obscure JPN games and creating a save of Policenauts without having to watch the whole long intro once again.
I will not be very useful for the core today.

[dire sinew]

Zet, does SRG have any idea why the CHD for the mystery game works, but not the bin/cue?

[umbral charm]

I didn't had any time to talk with him since yesterday and the release of the 04-09 core.

We were very busy or not available.

[quartz echo]

Gex saves for me. You need to find the VHS tape in the 3rd level and then beat the level for it to save. This is normal behavior; the game's just stingy with save points. I'm using the single ram core from April 7th

[dire sinew]

yeah, I'm just not good at gex

I beat one level and assumed that was enough

[real rapids]

Look at him. Just staring at you. Mocking you if you will!

[umbral charm]

Some FMVs have incorrect sound timings, the most evident for me is on YuuYuu Hakusho.
On the second part of the intro FMV, the music speeds up and slows down very rapidly.

Just after that moment, when you see the logo.

[silent oak]

yeah it starts skipping all music in the game too

and voice lines got random corruptions

[umbral charm]

And something else now.
I almost finished The Yakuuken Special with all the girls.
So, you won't never to do it. Never again.

That game cheats like never and reads your buttons + that game theme is pure ecchi (erotic) with some basic stripping rock, paper, scissors.

[tiny marsh]

Thank you for your service

[umbral charm]

I had to explain to my spouse.

[tiny marsh]

Yeah, that would be an awkward one 😅

“I’m just testing the core!”

[umbral charm]

That was just some fun for you here, let's go back on serious mode now.

[empty valley]

"Test" the core next with Blonde Justice and then The Coven

[umbral charm]

Vivid Interactive, sure.

[untold fog]

I saw many people talking about Samurai Shodown on the 3DO, and I don't mean just here. Is there something special about the 3DO version that wasn't in the original neo-geo or other versions or something?

[untold fog]

Step 1:

[empty valley]

Probably just 3DO hype in general. It’s a really big deal that were getting a 3DO FPGA core

The FPGA gaming hobby has grown by orders of magnitude since I joined in 2020

[tribal sandal]

Nah nothing special, i remember back in the day enjoying a demo disc of it on 3DO but it doesn’t bring anything extra

[barren ginkgo]

I tried adding 3DO to my names.txt, it doesn't seem to be doing anything. I used 3DO as the core name and Panasonic 3DO as my replacement name. I'm still just seeing 3DO. Is it not possible to change yet?

[deep holly]

i agree! i didnt think it would get as large as it is now.

[barren ginkgo]

One major factor is that it became more affordable, that and SBC emulation like RetroPie became stagnant.

[umbral charm]

3DO: Panasonic 3DO

Try it like that.

[barren ginkgo]

that did it, is there a certain number of spaces / tabs needed to work properly?

[umbral charm]

Not particularly, perhaps you had a character that the menu didn't like.

[empty valley]

I also think the appeal of MiSTer is pretty strong. We’re getting to the point of being able to accurately play every video game console from the 20th century sans Dreamcast. That, plus the arcade games and the PC cores in addition to the public knowing more about FPGA thanks to Analogue and ModRetro

I’m really excited about getting a handheld MiSTer. I hope Taki delivers on that

[sinful cliff]

There's still a few outliers, like the Bandai Pippin or the FM Times Marty, but yeah being able to play things from certified classics to niche curiosities on one device is pretty awesome.

[wide hinge]

Damn, this core is looking great already

no issues spotted so far with the handful of games I've loaded up

[distant grove]

On the core?

[signal mango]

Yes

[empty valley]

Still too early to discuss peripherals

[signal mango]

Sega CD remains the best way to play Corpse Killer on mister.

[copper bear]

Yeah, I was asking the other day what's still missing, and named FM Towns Marty, Game.com, Super A'Can, but thanks for reminding me of Bandai Pippin. This 3DO core is a dream come true though.

[empty valley]

There’s a lot of 2nd gen consoles, Memorex VIS, Amiga CD32 standalone core, etc. but in terms of all the mainstream stuff, everything’s covered at this point up to the Dreamcast

NGPC is hopefully gonna release someday from Jotego too

When I say mainstream I mostly mean the big names in console gaming: Nintendo, Sega, Sony, SNK, Atari, and NEC

[sharp pendant]

There are still a good few consoles left, but the average gamer would struggle to name them. Mostly pretty obscure stuff, and/or not released in the US

We have a channel to muse on such things though
#1055132056096624650 message

[lilac knoll]

We also have cps3 coming from jotego

[sharp pendant]

And a PGM from Wikka, which is more exciting imho, but both of those are arcades and not consoles 🙂

[lilac knoll]

And virtual boy, exciting times for fpga

[tropic basin]

2026 is the year of the virtual boy

[marble jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-there-is-another-star-wars-jedi-gif-5140031

[azure quiver]

The 3DO Company - 3DO/ Panasonic 3DO

[marble jetty]

They can do that?

[dire sinew]

it's his channel

he controls the vertical

and the horizontal

[marble jetty]

Ohhh

[serene gull]

noob question, i know, but can someone direct me to the 3DO core?

[brazen fern]

Robby keeps the latest cores pinned in each channel 🙂

[grim goblet]

until he takes a few days off for a shootenanny and everything starts getting released

[brazen fern]

you'll need the unstable MiSTer file too

[serene gull]

many thanks! I couldn't find the pins (discord first-timer)

[brazen fern]

NP, on mobile you need to click the channel name up top to see them

[serene gull]

perfect! was on desktop but now found them. if i'm honest, there's a lot going on with this GUI.

[brazen fern]

yeah its a bit of a mess

[iron maple]

Finally, I can play Seal of the Pharaoh the way God intended

[tropic basin]

https://youtu.be/-n5OSmShGt4

watching the intro to this. why is every 3do game a rave?

https://tenor.com/view/spaced-tim-bisley-simon-pegg-spaced-rave-rave-gif-26061489

cannot help but bust out some moves

[visual sonnet]

I actually quite enjoy Seal of the Pharoah

[stable sundial]

@crisp zealot you're a wizard, improvements between the 2 beta releases is unbelievable
Many bugs are gone, much better compatibility, no more crashes ...
Wow ...

[ivory ingot]

Because everything was a rave in the mid 90s

[wet tulip]

Um, so, what are the best exclusive games or very darn goodie games on 3do?

[median oriole]

ssf2, gex, nfs

[unreal ravine]

You know what would be absolutely nuts? If you could connect the controllers to a 9-pin SNAC and achieve multiplayer through daisy chain

What with their ten foot cables and all

[sour trout]

Doesn't help to me to fix Need for Speed. Even after I deleted 3DO.cfg (and a few "recent" 3DO-related config files) and power cycled Mister, I keep getting this error on the core from April, 9.

Deletion of the sav file from the saves/3DO directory doesn't help either.

[marble jetty]

I have a link to a list of game recommendations pinned actually - #1329170138234097745 message

[wet tulip]

Def didn’t see that. Thx 🤘😎

[tropic basin]

These games aren’t good

They’re great!

[visual sonnet]

Try Immercenary, Captain Quazar, and Icebeaker out.

[wet tulip]

Thx. I’ll checkm out

[visual sonnet]

While not "exclusive" 3DO has the absolute best versions of Total Eclipse, The Horde, Space Hulk, and Need For Speed. Oh and Star Control II is absolutely fantastic

And damnit try out Pataank and Gridders. They're neat.

And damn my favorite game on the entire console! AD&D Slayer

[tribal sandal]

Although Road Rash on 3DO has worse framerate than the Psx or Saturn versions, I believe it has better colours and the backgrounds fade in instead of popping in.

[wet tulip]

I strongly prefer fading in to pop in - don’t know why more developers don’t chose to do that. It’s less jarring

[tropic basin]

Seemed to sound better too

Couldn’t enjoy it on ps1 or Saturn just seemed off

[sinful cliff]

It's kind of fascinating when you play a PS1 or Saturn game, and you can instinctively tell they were originally on the 3DO. They always have a specific vibe to it.

It's kind of similar to how you play an SNES, Mega Drive, or PC Engine game, and you just know the game was originally on computers.

[silent oak]

and it's always fun to discover how better/more complete 3DO games are on their platform of origin

like Gex, or D

Total Eclipse Turbo is way too turbo

[tropic basin]

Yeah there’s been a few games that have popped up that I’ve looked into and found the 3do was the best one and been a bit disappointed

Now I can play em!

Even if the core is still unfinished it seems very playable

[gloomy hearth]

I think that's thanks to the cheaper alternatives (pi, qmtech) that reduce the original price to half or a third. I've seen what I got from retro remake for 200€ costing 600€

[fossil sorrel]

3DO bros 4ever

[tropic basin]

3DBROs

[fossil sorrel]

How could I have missed this...

[tropic basin]

Too busy enjoying the 3DO core

[wide harness]

What a fab core 🫡

Just a quick question...

Tried a Europe version and get "Wolfenstein 3DO can not run on a NTSC console" (confirmed in testing Spreadsheet)

Weren't 3do games region free?

[dire sinew]

No, there is a PAL version that the core doesn't support yet

(it's coming 🙂 )

[dawn raft]

I watched that one Famicom retrospective, and you could see the author's disdain for European Computer games grow with every port

[wide harness]

Ah... Thanks for the update

[golden schooner]

who made this channel name even worse

you are all insane people

[visual sonnet]

And Sanyo!

[tribal sandal]

Agree the channel name looks silly, why not just 3DO

[weak hound]

come and knock on our door. we’ve been waiting for you. where the crap games are hers and hers and his. 3DOs Company toooo

[golden schooner]

mods aren't in touch with the people

[velvet geyser]

Trip Hawkins 3DO Company - 3DO

[dire sinew]

Sing it with me, friends

🎶 🎶 🎶 🎶 Leeeeeeeettts Scrollllllll Uuuuuuuuuuuuup🎶 🎶 🎶 #1329170138234097745 message

[tribal sandal]

Maybe we need a Goldstar channel so some people are not left out

[distant grove]

Yes

[golden schooner]

This is what happens when one person gets a little bit of power

[astral nova]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-panaphonics-sorny-magnetbox-genuine-gif-15038771871200365172

[wide harness]

New channel name: The Three Dee Oh Channel 🤭

[timid mason]

3DO

I dunno who named that channel but it was terrible

The 3DO channel, For the 3DO by 3DO

[dire sinew]

F3B3(do)

[errant mulch]

Hello, it's not possible to remap controls for the moment ?

[spring basin]

should have named it 3D0 and pretended to not understand why people are complaining

[silent oak]

you can, just like any core

[errant mulch]

i don't have option in menu

[silent oak]

menu > right > remap controls

[errant mulch]

oups sorry ^^

my bad 😄

[silent oak]

this is universal

almost everyone here have been through this

[marble jetty]

3D0

shit I can’t delete it

3DO

Oh well

[dire sinew]

3DZed

[marble jetty]

lolol

[dire sinew]

We are going to get banned

but sometimes you give the body not the point

Ok, I'm changing it back before SRG wakes up and is disappointed in all of us

[empty valley]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-chopper-zed-zed-is-death-baby-bruce-willis-gif-8599835

[dire sinew]

Trip Hawkins' 3DO

[marble jetty]

I mean, I like it lol

Can we as a 3DO community come together and just admit that the Panasonic 3DO is the canonical and official 3DO?

[dire sinew]

I'd second that motion

[marble jetty]

Like who out there reppin’ for Sanyo or Goldstar? Be real now, bruh.

[empty valley]

Never! I’m team 3DO Interactive Multiplayer

[weary rain]

I’d just call this channel 3DO Interactive Multiplayer

[sinful cliff]

Trip Hawkins' 3DO?

[brazen fern]

320DO

[solid canopy]

Excuse me, "the" Panasonic 3DO? FZ-1 or FZ-10?

[tropic basin]

3DeezNuts

[ashen cedar]

That's weird. I didn't think there were any Simpsons titles for 3do o_0

[distant grove]

Sponsored episode

[visual sonnet]

meeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[marble jetty]

I owe you an apology, I wasn’t really familiar with your game

[tropic basin]

https://youtu.be/EZtrC67I3nU

[marble jetty]

Ok what the hyeeeck is that game about?

[storm moth]

Birds

[marble jetty]

You know, that one is my fault

[sinful cliff]

Reptiles

[formal bison]

My digital pad mapping is messed up. D-Pad down was not recognized in the game but analog down worked. I remapped a few times but this did not fix it. I then remapped it again and now the D-Pad does not get recognized at all in SSF2Turbo probably all games. Digital is turned on in the core for both player 1 and player 2. I’m using 2x PS4 controllers with 8Bitdo wireless adapters brown/red color. What could it be? How do I do a reset of mapping? The reset does not seem to do it…

[storm moth]

Did you set the analog in main to dpad?

[brazen fern]

TIL the actress from the shining made educational kids games

[formal bison]

What do you mean in main? In the 3do core under input I have pad 1 = digital and pad 2 = digital.

[storm moth]

Like in the main menu mister controller setup when it says set "up" did you set it with the analog stick or did you use the dpad?

Like the controller setup outside the core

[formal bison]

Right now I have ditched analog (dual mapping) and just set it to dpad (udlr). It still does not work …something is odd after hitting multiple directions on the d-pad it decided to move up on the menu and then stop working again? Hmm. How do I just manually delete the 3do button mapping file in the file system? Where is it located?

[grim goblet]

/media/fat/config/inputs

[tropic basin]

Shelley Duvall's 3DO

[formal bison]

Deleting the 2x 3DO input files in the inputs folder fixed the controller problem. Thanks

Is there a specific reason why Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo does not fit the screen? Inside Audio & Video I have tried changing 320x224 Aspect: Original/Corrected but it seems to do nothing.

[ruby mulch]

how does it not fit the screen?

[formal bison]

There is a 1/2-3/4” black border around the playable screen on a 60” 16/9 LCD. It appears zoomed out. I don’t remember if it was this way on the actually console. It’s been too long.

[grim goblet]

This may be just how the game is, it would need to be verified against real hardware or footage captured from real hardware if you can find it.

[grim goblet]

That seems to be how this version is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrNU0F6S-k8

black border and all

[formal bison]

Perhaps the black border is not that noticeable on a CRT because of the overscan area on the TV?

[grim goblet]

yes, overscan hid at least a few things in different games. The eye of Typhoon has graphical corruption around the edges of the arena that would normally be hidden by overscan on a CRT.

[young sluice]

Have to say, for the first single sdram release, it's running really well. Hardly had anything fail to load, though as others have said you do sometimes need a double reboot between games. Really impressive stuff. Does need the borders for CRT though, it's way too "zoomed" in. Of course I know that's low priority right now

[sleek zealot]

Do you have a link?

[viscid harbor]

#1365341352648507495 message

[marble jetty]

Yes, if you see anything odd with a game always make sure to compare against the original console first. Most issues are just normal game behavior. It’s wild.

[tropic basin]

My face ever since we got this new core

https://tenor.com/view/omg-what-oh-gif-11416268

(3DO face)

[vapid swallow]

channel name should be SRG 3DO

just sayin

[forest lichen]

3DO

[velvet geyser]

https://readonlymemo.com/mister-3do-core-progress-accuracy-interview/

the man himself talks 3do core development

also if you’re not reading read only memo you are missing out

[vestal steppe]

Btw I feel the Image ist slighlty dark in the core could that be? Like in D I can't barely See anything

Love the stupid German dubbing If Dragon lore

[signal mango]

I have returned to single ram

[covert wagon]

one pump man just like the rumors said

[velvet geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-trooper-traitor-starwars-gif-15518569

[signal mango]

Dual ram was not as bad as i had feared. But analog io pro is the best.

[night escarp]

Yeah I bought a second stick w/ my Mister Pi before I understood the either/or situation. I'm a hard nosed CRT user, so I was in no way going to sacrifice my legit analog outs

Is the mister main updated in update all yet by chance? Didn't want to accidentally overwrite the experimental one for 3do if I run update all

[ashen palm]

The recent Saturn improvements with single RAM fast timings is pretty incredible. DOA runs great with it.

[gloomy flint]

That’s what it should be

[vocal girder]

Can someone help me? I can't run any games in this core.

• I downloaded the latest core release (single ram), the one without "load from CD" option. I have a dual ram setup, BTW.
• I replaced the MiSTer build to the lastest unstable nightly.
• All games are in BIN/CUE format.

I can't past the BIOS screen. I load a game, the 3DO logo flashes 2 times and goes straight to the BIOS screen. Did I miss anything?

[grim goblet]

Did you supply your own BIOS, or get it through update all?

[vocal girder]

Got the Goldstar one. Well, guess I missed that update. Let me run the update all script to check if it gets another BIOS.

[grim goblet]

It needs the Panasonic FZ-1 BIOS

that's the only one confirmed to work properly AFAIK

[vocal girder]

Okay, got it. Thanks. I'll try that out.

[grim goblet]

Update all will not replace existing custom boot.rom BIOS files BTW. You would need to delete or rename it before running update all for it to properly grab it.

[tidal dirge]

Oh its on update all now?

[grim goblet]

the bios is, not the core.

been there since day 1 I think

[tidal dirge]

Ah okay cool thanks!

[fickle finch]

la 3DO tiene un sentir de una época... pero es una consola horripilante en catálogo.

cambiar una megadrive o snes por la 3DO o Jaguar en su día pudo haber supuesto graves consecuencias a la diversión.

[obtuse hinge]

I'm so glad we don't have to play Doom with these borders in 2026 😵‍💫

[ivory ingot]

Play it with a modern engine if that kind of thing bothers you

[obtuse hinge]

Nah brah

[ivory ingot]

K' bruh

[distant grove]

@crisp zealot I'm messaging the guy who scanned my 3do chips so see if anything has been made public

[covert wagon]

Fun story there is a code to expand the screen size because M2 was intended to be backwards compatible with 3DO and would have been able to run the game at well beyond 60p

[distant grove]

Or just run Optidoom haha

[weary rain]

You can use direct video

But it does take a little more extra setup

[visual sonnet]

What's with the channel name?

[tropic basin]

another hater

🙄

[fossil sorrel]

There are some niggly little problems with direct video.

So its not really just a one to one switch.

[marble jetty]

Ok, what was the original channel name and why did we change it?

[weak hound]

I think it was “3DBlows feat. Trip Hawkins”

[visual sonnet]

First I think it was The 3DO Company - 3DO, then Panasonic 3DO

[tribal sandal]

I think it’s had many names but eventually someone made it too long so it became 3DO again then this 😂 I vote just 3DO or 3DO interactive multiplayer

[marble jetty]

3DO Interactive Multiplayer

[marble jetty]

Ok TVs j you

Thank you

[visual sonnet]

Thank you @marble jetty

[verbal fjord]

Cut out the middle man and name the channel "Hip Trawlkins"

[covert wagon]

3DO FZ-69

[tribal sandal]

How about Panasonic FZ-1 R.E.A.L. 3DO Interactive Multiplayer by Trip Hawkins

[marble jetty]

What does R.E.A.L. Stand for?

[tribal sandal]

I wish I knew 🤣

Panasonic, Goldstar and Sanyo all used the 3DO Interactive Multiplayer naming so this channel name works

[tiny marsh]

Remember that we have a yellow in here now. Is it really so important to discuss the name of the channel?

[visual sonnet]

I was just trying to point put because the core dev is here giving the channel silly names seems kinda childish

[umbral charm]

And you're very right.
That was irritating and not welcomed at all.

Thank you.

[proud flint]

“R.E.A.L.” Was only a marketing term. Many online speculate it had something to do with its ‘real-time- visuals, but the ‘acronym’ didn’t mean anything….While "3DO" itself is often cited as an abbreviation of "three-dimensional optics" or as a play on "audio" and "video," essentially meaning the next step in interactive media (audio, video, three-deo).

I owned the GoldStar version of the 3DO back in 1995. I’m the only person I know that ever owned one. The games were often disappointing, but at the time, it was state of the art.

[fossil sorrel]

Everytime I think of this core my brain floods with endorphins...aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh there it goes.

[tropic basin]

I wonder if road rash has more frames with the dashboard displayed since it’s obscuring part of the screen. Anyone know?

[vocal girder]

I forgot to return here to say it worked. Thank you very much.
Although, I can't run most games. Tried Gex, Microcosm, Casper and some others I saw videos of. No success. Same with Road Rash. And they worked with a FZ-1 with the Fixel ODE.
But Gridders ran fine. So... I don't know.

I have a dual RAM setup and I have some other modules to spare. Maybe is the RAM speed?

[umbral charm]

Edit : I didn't saw your previous messages.

Maybe try with another module.

[covert wagon]

good question and no clue

[tribal sandal]

At a guess I would probably say no because the pixels are still rendering but with a extra layer hiding them.

[tropic basin]

It’s a fun game, I’m just remembering how much better the megadrive ones played with their improvement hacks that one guy did

Only way to play those games

[tribal sandal]

I will have to give those a try

[tropic basin]

https://www.romhacking.net/?page=hacks&authorid=2797&startpage=1

i don't think the 3do game needs them quite as much. the megadrive games had really bad frame rates to the point that the hacks make them significantly easier (but in an oh this feels fair now and like the devs probably intended)

i beat 2 without the hack and it took me ages

[real rapids]

Channel name needs "R•E•A•L" at the start of it!

[silent oak]

hope eventually we get overclocking options

the library in Killing Time got to my nerves and I abandoned that playthrough to beat Time Consumed TC in the remaster

[tribal sandal]

It was only used by Panasonic

[real rapids]

Everyone knows it's the R•E•A•L name!

[golden schooner]

https://klipy.com/gifs/daddys-home2-daddys-home2gifs-23

[ionic plank]

It’s on the console so it counts

And we’ve all agreed that the FZ-1 is the canonical model

[golden schooner]

you're a canonical model

[restive oasis]

not a lot of non panasonic 3DOs one would actually use out there

[tropic basin]

Will the R.E.A.L Panasonic 3DO please stand up

[forest lichen]

for me the Panasonic FZ-1 model is a beautiful console

Looks great

Even now I would gladly put it under the TV

[vapid agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363020453536595978/1488186820788228277/beatmania_IIDX_5th_style_Real.gif

[untold fog]

Wait a minute, how did I end up in the multiplayer channel? Where's the one for single player 3DO games?

[ionic plank]

They don’t exist

With 3DO trip hawkins will always be there with you

[tropic basin]

I played 3DO road rash all day and it didn’t crash or mess up my saves

I think I saw a couple glitches possibly but minor stuff (screen flashing, a random tree in the sky etc - that one might just be normal)

Was trying to finish it but I suck apparently

[sharp pendant]

Haven't been able to keep up the last few days, how is the single ram core looking compared with the previous dual ram core?

[untold fog]

dual-ram core is rip

single-ram core compeltely replaced it

[sharp pendant]

Yeah, but are there any issues on the replacement single ram core or no new issues found?

No regressions or new issues going down to single ram over dual?

[untold fog]

I don't believe so since development on the dual-ram core has stopped

[tropic basin]

I did notice I felt less of a sense of superiority

[sharp pendant]

If nobody has noticed any issues then that is very positive

[grim goblet]

I think the only issues I've found are specific to the 20260409 core, not the move to single ram. Ultramans intro FMV video skips like crazy now

[mossy kernel]

Just because this core is not gonna be 100% accurate, does not mean that almost every game will be unplayable, right?

[tropic basin]

N64 core turned out pretty playable despite that

[mossy kernel]

True. But weren't there like a small dozen of games that were unplayable on Mister, thus needing some patches?

[tropic basin]

I think they eventually got fixed but not sure

[grim goblet]

The N64 core patches the games that need it on the fly

[ionic plank]

https://tenor.com/view/life-uh-finds-a-way-it-be-that-way-it-will-work-itself-out-gif-16077053

[sharp pendant]

If you check the testing sheet you can see that most things play absolutely fine already

[mossy kernel]

👍

[sharp pendant]

Anyone looking to test something not looked at yet, the homebrew tab could use some eyes. Link in the front tab in the doc on where to find them

[mossy kernel]

Not that many homebrew 3DO games, huh?

[sharp pendant]

May be more but these were the ones on the site

[covert wagon]

It has arrived

you can tell the dude in the glasses fucks

[distant grove]

No. Those are Sony drives. Fz1 uses Matsushita drives

[karmic basin]

Did you ask your mom?

[verbal fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/arsenio-hall-coming-to-america-spit-shocked-gif-16719611

[covert wagon]

She’s dead. She died of boredom in bed with you

But she is dead 🤣

[gloomy flint]

Did anyone happen to catch this today?

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2026/04/3do-fpga-core-cannot-be-accurate-on-the-mister-says-creator

Maybe the core will be half and half like the GBA core?

Or is it one of those “it’ll be accurate for the most part but not so much for the little quirks and things”?

Also wonder if making this dual RAM only can fix that

[brazen fern]

Sounds like it really needs more bram on the FPGA, srg320 mentioned there was no performance impact when he moved the core from dual SD only to single

[tropic basin]

That article just presents like the fpga is the limiting factor despite quoting the dev saying we don’t have enough information on how the 3do works

It’s still very cool for us to have a 3do core. Thank you srg320

[brazen fern]

Yeah, timeextension....
The read only memo article/interview is good

[gloomy flint]

I just brought it up because I didn’t see anyone do so. I know they usually leave things out which is why I asked

[brazen fern]

Id say the timeextension guy's definition of 'accurate' differs from what was intended

[brazen fern]

Was just responding to 3domaxxing. The source of the story is good and the core is excellent 🙂

[visual sonnet]

I know there are accuracy purists out there n that's all well n good. If I can't tell the difference that's good enough for me

[real rapids]

I mean, like I said in the comments of the article, it not being 100% accurate doesn't mean a whole lot in practice. The Saturn core isn't either, and yet it's still the most accurate way to play Saturn outside of original hardware. N64 is also very good for the most part outside of the Madden games and their exploding players.

[grim goblet]

The madden thing is a feature really

[real rapids]

As it should be.

[tropic basin]

ignorance is bliss!

[gloomy flint]

As long as I can play pretty much whatever I can throw at it, I’m good.

Also, it should at least be more accurate than a standard emulator. That to me is important as well.

[visual sonnet]

Same. If someone wants to sit there and pretend they can tell something is like off by a single pixel hey good for them

[dull knot]

Didn’t they mention that it will be accurate on MARS?

[brazen sandal]

In our quest for perfection, we forget the most important thing: the joy of playing games. That's what matters, I think. Whatever the type of FPGA, it will never be a perfect implementation; perfection simply doesn't exist in this field. The 3DO core was a godsend for me, so I'm surprised it was made available (thank you a thousand times, SRG320). And speaking of dual RAM, there's generally no need for it for such a small difference in some games (if you even play with it). It doesn't matter if dual RAM wins or not. Single RAM does the job just as well. The number of cores available on the MiSTer is already quite incredible; there's plenty to work with. Accuracy or not isn't the point if you can play comfortably. Of course, more accuracy is better, but sometimes you have to make do with what's already there. I am a gamer first and foremost, and I love MiSTer for that reason.

[distant grove]

But we know how the vram works, and that's the largest factor. The latency for the framebuffer is incredibly fast. 3do themselves were unsure about that part of the hardware being able to be replicated in future 3do systems. Also the chips have had their die scanned, idk if the guy I sent my chips to ever made it public or not though.

[marble jetty]

TimeExtension dude doesn’t like MiSTer apparently

[tribal sandal]

@sharp pendant I see that you say on the testing sheet that Road Rash has no sound issues but when I crash or take a bump I hear a strange beeping sound, I get this on USA and both European revisions, can anyone else confirm this or is it just my setup. A good way to test for it is driving and touching the steel fencing on the Sierra Nevada level.

[tropic basin]

#releasethechips

[covert wagon]

lol...I have thoughts

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2026/03/ai-coded-slop-no-thanks-animal-crossings-native-pc-port-was-made-using-claude-code

that was very nice of him...to write an entire article based on a reponse to my tweet that had zero engagement from the person who wrote it

now I am seeing all the negative comments and shit come through...MiSTer sucks. FPGA isn't accurate. 3DO doesn't run well. What a mess

[fossil sorrel]

Who cares what he thinks eh?

Want to know what I think?

I think the MiSTer is... refreshing!

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-coffee-sip-ahh-yes-gif-13364737871551902680

[marble jetty]

I like your articles

[covert wagon]

Pulitzer caliber

[sharp pendant]

Oh, my comment was for clicks and distortion like we had seen more in earlier builds across most of the library. If there is an actual sound bug then please update my entry on the sheet (i.e. put your name in place of mine and comment the issue on the latest build)

[distant grove]

Even if the scans were the best scans you've ever seen of any chip ever, the thing about 3do is it was a high level OS and certain chip revisions lacked things others didnt. That's probably part of the reason only one bios works right now if I had to assume. One console allegedly offloaded cdrom functions onto the CPU. But the beauty of the system is that doesn't matter, since the OS is there and handling it versus having games written hard coded to hardware. So if something major changed in the hardware, there was a layer of OS that kept developers from doing things that would keep their game from running on future revisions (IE Saturn hardware revisions).

[tropic basin]

So what you’re saying is SRG320’s 3DO is as much a 3DO as any brand’s?

[distant grove]

It's similar to how Russian/Chinese manufacturers made fake Famicons (Dendy). Yeah it functions and works, but it's not a famicon. I believe once the ram issues get sorted out it should be a fantastic alternative

Hopefully cuts down on 3do demand too lol

[marble jetty]

@distant grove when are you buying a MiSTer?

[distant grove]

And I don't mean this in a bad way, just that on a technical level it's never going to be 100% unless a core is made for every chip revision. So green+, preen, brown, anvil etc lmao but that's way too fucking extra. Whatever he's basing his work off of now is clearly working well. Even the oldest chipset I have on hand runs the more advanced games except need for speed

[weak hound]

Trying for super accuracy with 3DO seems like a waste of time, at the end of the day you have to play 3DO. Better time spent on good consoles

[marble jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-this-is-where-the-fun-begins-anakin-skywalker-revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-gif-26313467

[distant grove]

"yeah I like gaming, but like, I would NEVER play a game that wasn't made easy for children"

[rich willow]

I'll be satisfied only when i can test susono cc/ekiden/tylenol on the core /jk

[marble jetty]

Huh

[covert wagon]

We have to (not us...the royal we) stop picking apart ever damn core MiSTer has. Why does this always happen? Lol Analogue 3D ships with bugs and issues and its "itll get updated" meanwhile anything MiSTer is "well akchually..." and it drives me nuts

[gloomy flint]

So long story short, as long as it’s basically 100% accurate to a specific model (i.e. the FZ-1), then it’s fine then. Absolutely fine with that as honestly I think that’s the model people more know anyways. So as long as it just aims for that one specific unit, everything should be fine in theory.

[gloomy flint]

Especially the fact that MiSTer pretty much gets updated on a near daily basis. So I don’t know what makes the Analogue crowd so superior. I love my 3D and Pocket, not so much the Duo, they’re a pain in the ass to work with, and believe me, not as better as one would assume.

I mean even the Pocket is a handheld MiSTer at this point with strengths and weaknesses over an actual MiSTer ecosystem build

[distant grove]

Pretty much. The fz1 had different revisions too, but there is zero compatibility issues across all MADAM/CLIO chipsets. The issue with anvil that's been reported across forums (GDO 202/203 and Late FZ10 models) is an issue where the OS occupies too much ram. So it's not even a chipset problem. As long as he stays with his fz1 and reviews the chips I got scanned, the core will run all 3do games

I would estimate, just about 85% or maybe even 95% of the library was developed testing with fz1 systems and on earlier dev stations. Version 0.5 hardware and newer, ignoring Anvil.

This is a pretty accurate estimate if you assess testing station and dev units that have popped up for sale or in possession of someone. All have madam/Clio dev cards or they are fz1 testing stations. Fz10 testing stations are pretty rare. Even rarer are Goldstar testing stations. If you take a look at the library, and look at a game with issues on anvil systems, you can see Luciennes quest is a pretty late title in the line up, but wasn't developed on Anvil. Or else they would have seen the ram consumption issue by the anvil OS and it wouldn't have been a problem