#Panasonic 3DO

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dull knot
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No

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Let’s wait for Claude to add support

grim goblet
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misterclaw is on it ccrab

frail bronze
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I'm not sure what I did exactly, I had to do a lot of trial and error, I've also noticed I can't really load up one game when I have another game running like I do with other cores, I pretty much have to reboot to the main MISTer menu and then start the 3D0 core again

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I tried abouit a dozen or so different games now and they all played and ran well, albeit some of them with varying sound and graphical hiccups

real rapids
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Does the new unstable MiSTer main that fixes the OSD button issues have the 3DO core implementation as well?

frail bronze
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also regarding my earlier comment, Shadow War of succession runs a LOT faster on the emulators than it does the MISTer core, so it must be some sort of emulation issue, the game is still terrible either way

real rapids
proper sparrow
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I have cue/ISO games. The cue is not needed, the ISO can be loaded directly. Works with fz1 bios well. Only the screen is not centered on my CRT. Anyone have more luck with he analog signal?

karmic basin
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Do you mean bin/cue?

proper sparrow
proper sparrow
karmic basin
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Screen being off-center is common right now. This is the CRT testing phase.

grim goblet
karmic basin
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Wild.

dull knot
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Are there many games missing from redump if compared to tosec?

proper sparrow
dull knot
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I’m now copying my 1G1R made out of redump

dull knot
dire sinew
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no

proper sparrow
# dire sinew no

but isn't having just one file instead of tons of bincues better?

dull knot
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CHD’em all

proper sparrow
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didn't tosec ensured the files are proper named and verified?

proper sparrow
grim goblet
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yes it does

proper sparrow
grim goblet
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Just because it doesn't say it in the OSD doesn't mean it doesn't work

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Here's a video showing it loads CHDs #1329170138234097745 message

proper sparrow
karmic basin
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I tried out a CHD I made myself of Tripp'd which is a Mode 2 game that should have issues due to lack of CHD supporting that.

Loaded up fine and was able to play a few levels. Doesn't mean it's flawless, but I was surprised it worked.

grim goblet
signal mango
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Yeah the cue / iso combo is new to me too but working fine

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Did we decide if m2 is real or imaginary?

proper sparrow
karmic basin
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M2 is definitely fake and invented by Bacon as a psyop.

signal mango
harsh portal
karmic basin
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He hasn't released the source code of the paper mache models he touts on YouTube yet

signal mango
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Are the paper mache models any good? I haven't seen them

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If they suck, i don't need source

harsh portal
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I'm comfortable with manual installation and have a 80% success rate. Will test vaporware all day every day. And @covert wagon, twice on Sunday. Since I don't work on sunday

signal mango
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If they are good, we just need to check the code to see what he stole

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And then steal more of it

harsh portal
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Possession is 9/10 of the law. Pretty sure that applies to code too

karmic basin
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I can't believe all of you are falling for the Big M2 Lie®

signal mango
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Who is falling for it? Point them out

harsh portal
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If I don't have anything to believe in then why am I even here?

karmic basin
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First ever faith-based game console

harsh portal
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This is the world we live in now!

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Lol

signal mango
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The new normal

karmic basin
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BTW, @harsh portal - your PFP is cool

harsh portal
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I appreciate all of you. And it's easy like Sunday afternoon. Im just here for the ride

karmic basin
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Considering srg-320 hot-dropped this core just over a day ago, it's solid. Kudos to yet another amazing piece of work.

distant grove
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A bad disc drive on a 3do will cause NFS to run slower than it should because it streams the track geometry and other assets

junior ledge
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Does this work on the new dual ram mister pi?

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Excellent, I am going to watch 🙂

marble jetty
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Ok another revision to the Important Info pin

warm kiln
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Are there plans to implement the Kanji ROM?

Certain Japanese games require that to run (the Japanese version of Lucienne’s Quest, titled Sword & Sorcery, being one of them.)

tidal dirge
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Oh no.. not the 3D-zero 🤣

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But I suppose I am excited for wolfenstien and star control II

weary rain
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I noticed my game running in 240p over DV

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Is it without the speedup?

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I think it might be, that’s cool

karmic basin
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Correct. It's reporting 240p but games affected aren't experiencing the speedup. No idea of the technical answer to it, but it's great to not have to deal with deinterlacing.

distant grove
warm kiln
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Virtuoso has a bug with color flicker, as well as an issue where its background LOD shading is above the game graphics:

grim goblet
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Yup, it's noted on the testing sheet.

tidal dirge
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It would be interesting to see how much of the library is playable with this build.. but alas, no dual 128

sharp pendant
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Anyone tried an audio CD on the core? May not be supported, but worth confirming if nobody has yet

weary rain
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The games i’ve tried reported 240p and showed no interlacing

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but there seemed to be no speedup

distant grove
# weary rain but there seemed to be no speedup

Try the games that black screen. I think sailor moon, Ultraman, or yu you kahusho will black screen on 240p if it boots in 240p... I can't remember exactly which it was. But when you start up the game from the pause menu, into a match, it will black screen

weary rain
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I’m just wondering why RE2 of SSF2T wasn’t recognizing my controller

covert wagon
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I’d like to point out how popular 3DO is now 🤣

weary rain
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If Taki was really about the 3DO lifestyle, he would do a SS1 based on the Alive II design

signal mango
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We're all in here everyday talking about our favorite games

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Like primal rage and Mad Dog II: The Lost Gold

dull knot
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Any Japan exclusive games that are worth adding to the library and that can be played without knowing Japanese?

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Only 13GB free on my SD card

dull knot
distant grove
# dull knot Got a list?

My favorite:
Goal FH (soccer)
Sailor moon s (fighter)
Yu Yu Hakusho (fighter)
Vgoal (port of arcade soccer game)
Ultraman powered (fighter)
Doctor Hauser (horror/suspense, English translation)

dull knot
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Thanks a lot!

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Will add those to the card

warm kiln
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I’d also add NOB - Neo Organic Bioform to that list

dull knot
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Got the full USA and EUR 1G1R to the sd already

distant grove
distant grove
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I wish we had a translation of policenauts and grand chef

dull knot
distant grove
grim goblet
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If there was any conceivable way to add english subtitles to Dragon Tycoon Edge, that'd be my pick. But it's all spoken japanese with no subtitles and dubbing would probably ruin it... if anyone even would in the first place.

dull knot
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The chd set based on Redump I got doesn't seem to have V-Goal 🤔

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Oh, it does. Freaking AI didn't include it to the 1G1R set it created. FuckAI

frank flicker
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This +1 . But I just moved the picture to the right in the TV service menue 🙂 .

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You are wrong. Nearly everybody I know that has a Mister have it hooked up to a RGB CRT.

low drift
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My crt doesn't have a friendly service menu to tweak so often, I can wait

frank flicker
frank flicker
low drift
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It will be fixed eventually, no rush!

frank flicker
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The FM Towns has its full potential only as the computer version. The Marty is dumbed down in every way possible (no full RAM / Hz upgrade possible, no RGB output, not every game running...........)

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Exactly the same as model 1 Marty 😛 . Just looks differently 😛 .

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Just as useless as the Hi Saturn Navi & Mega Jet 😛

distant grove
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When pigs fly probably

dire sinew
frank flicker
warm kiln
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I have a RGB CRT (a rather substantial Panasonic DT-2730MS I trash picked at one point), but I mainly play on a TCL 4K TV connected to a RetroTINK 4K in my living room.

It has more comfortable seating, and I don’t have to fight with configurations on cores with odd resolutions. (That doesn’t mean I don’t have a MiSTer hooked up to my RGB CRT, though… 😜)

ionic plank
harsh portal
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The real ones have multiple misters on multiple displays. gotta catch em all

distant grove
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I just own a real 3do

ionic plank
distant grove
cobalt zephyr
desert steeple
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followe all instructions but still cant get it to work on my dual ram mister 😭

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i see the 3d0 logo but its a bit off center..loading a game only gives me a blank screen

gloomy flint
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Turn on “Load CD” in the OSD options menu. I had that same issue last night.

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Thought it was from loading from actual CD like for an external, but no, you have to actually turn that on to load discs. So I can see why it was confusing.

forest lichen
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@fickle onyx Microcosm (USA) works fine for me

gloomy flint
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Literally my number one MiSTer want as it’s a console I always wanted but never had.

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PC-FX would be great to try, but let’s be honest, it’s mostly porn and FMV slop

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Even if it’s a core for the computer itself. As long as I can play FM Towns finally

spark tiger
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Tons of great arcade ports with CDDA tracks.

gloomy flint
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I have to figure out how that core works since I want to sit down one day and play some Outnumbered and Treasure Mountain again.

desert steeple
sharp pendant
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The FM Towns Core is a WIP Puu core and not really usable at all. Although with this new 386 core that is about to be released, and the chips Puu has done for his WIP core, we may now have all the parts needed (in some form) for someone to make a go of an FM Towns Marty core one day.

sharp pendant
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@grim goblet just seen your comment on Twinkle Knights (Japan), so it looks like the core doesn't have the Kanji rom baked in? Maybe something srg320 will need to add as an extra boot1.rom, or bake in

covert wagon
junior ledge
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I followed the tutorial for pixelcherryninja to a tee. I tried both .rbf's. The 3DO games will not boot up. I am on a Mister pi so I wonder if that is a problem???? Has anyone with a Mister Pi got the 3DO core to work?

umbral charm
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Dual RAM on your MiSTer Pi ?

junior ledge
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yes and i checked to make sure the 3rd switch is up

real rapids
desert steeple
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Also the OSD menu turns into an off white color after a few second of the core being open 🤔

umbral charm
junior ledge
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No it just makes a beep sound and the screen goes black4

tribal sandal
sharp pendant
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Yeah I was thinking the same

umbral charm
sharp pendant
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@dire sinew

junior ledge
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You dont, I just checked and it comes factory set with the 3rd switch up 🙂

dire sinew
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all switches can be down

real rapids
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I do wonder if in some of these cases, people have been typing "3DO" as "3D0" (with a zero) at some point in the process, and that's what is causing things to not function.

dire sinew
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@junior ledge is your mister opened up? can you take a picture of it?

junior ledge
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one sec

sharp pendant
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We have seen people who thought they had a dual ram Taki set up and actually didn't, so worth confirming you can play the other dual ram cores OK

junior ledge
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what do you want a picture of the 3do core or the main screen?

gaunt imp
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Me sitting on the sidelines waiting for the scrubs to figure the initial pain points out.

dire sinew
junior ledge
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yes saturn runs mint

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i bought the newest one where it just comes with the dual core

sharp pendant
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Specifically the dual ram Saturn core?

dire sinew
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wait

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did you buy and install a 2nd stick of ram?

junior ledge
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i bought the second stick of ram but it didnt need it according to the customer service person

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there was no where to plug it in because it was the new mister pi

dire sinew
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you don't need it to play most things, but you do need it to play this

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yeah, you have to unplug the mezzanine board

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and then it slots in there

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do you have the 2nd stick still?

sharp pendant
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If you can enable the Dual ram DB in update all (press up when you launch it) then go and try the cores that it downloads and let us know if those work for you

junior ledge
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let me try the dual ram saturn and i will report back

dire sinew
junior ledge
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One sec let me try it 🙂

desert steeple
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I give up.I guess I'll just have to wait😭 😮‍💨

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I get the animated "Welcome to the REAL world" screen but can't get a game to load

junior ledge
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omg you guys are right the dual core does not work

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where do i insert the ram lol 🙂

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i have the stick but cant see where i place it on the mister pi lol

dire sinew
grim goblet
junior ledge
signal mango
dire sinew
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aside from the video being way off center, it ran fine

lapis herald
simple otter
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Is 3D0 the last console for mister? (not handhelds like Virtual Boy, Game.com, or Nintendo DS)

grim goblet
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Virtualboy is a handheld?

ionic plank
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Dreamcast

dire sinew
desert steeple
simple otter
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Yeah, It took batteries and it didn't need to get connected to a TV

gloomy flint
# dire sinew Quick and dirty sparky:

That’s the first thing I did when I got mine. Took that off and put the ram stick I had from my old MiSTer in there. BTW, what does that L board do anyways?

dire sinew
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analog video out of the VGA port and analog audio out of the headphone jack

real rapids
dire sinew
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the vga port is completely inert without the board. the headphone jack only does mini toslink audio without it

gloomy flint
ionic plank
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It’s the video game equivalent to luggable PCs

gloomy flint
simple otter
dire sinew
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a whole new generation of gamers are about to learn about filezilla's auto transport protocol

gloomy flint
simple otter
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yes

desert steeple
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I download the lastest unstable and got it to run...finally!! but no my problem is that the picture is off center on my crt

dire sinew
gloomy flint
simple otter
gloomy flint
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That’s the directory and hash you need to check the BIOS against

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Literally the only issue I faced getting it to work was turning on Load from CD.

simple otter
gloomy flint
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After that, it was off to the races and it even saves too!

grim goblet
real rapids
grim goblet
dense whale
marble jetty
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right, there are issues using this core on CRTs?

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something about direct video?

ashen palm
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On my CRT I got a really dark screen after the Gex intro played with a MiSTer Addons Digital IO board, but I didn't test much after that

dire sinew
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The core is busted when using a crt right now. it will be addressed. i promise

ashen palm
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For sure - no immediate need. Just happy the core got to a semi-public state

pulsar ledge
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if it's not fixed within 15 minutes im throwing my mister out of the window and ill play on my pi 3 till the end of time

junior ledge
# dire sinew Quick and dirty sparky:

It works!!!!!! WTH thankfully i kept the ram stick i bought after the kit. So that L board is not needed??? (Ill still keep it on a random shelf anyways lol)

dire sinew
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if you're just using HDMI, then no, not needed

marble jetty
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omg street fighter uses the pause button for medium punch LOL

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ok it’s serviceable

maiden bear
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Hello. Is anyone having this issue with the 3DO core where about 1/5th of the image on the right is all black?

junior ledge
maiden bear
dense whale
storm moth
dire sinew
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Can’t have both dual ram and analog video

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But you can swap between them

marble jetty
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my pins are in @slender fox’s 3DO video, hooray!

spring basin
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show your wife

signal mango
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Show your kids

calm night
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anyone using the core with a retrotink 4k via direct video? Can only get a blue screen when i try to load a game.

marble jetty
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“THIS WAS WHAT I WAS DOING THIS MORNING”

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“I TOLD YOU I WAS COOL”

dire sinew
ivory ingot
dire sinew
calm night
dire sinew
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what is the date on it?

calm night
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That’s probably the issue

dire sinew
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yeah, you need the latest main because it tells the mister how to load the cds

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otherwise it stalls with a blue screen

calm night
ivory ingot
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@dire sinew I think the instructions should get reverted back to telling people to copy main to a specific name and configuring MiSTer.ini for the 3do core

dire sinew
dire sinew
calm night
ivory ingot
calm night
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Before I copy over the new unstable

dire sinew
dire sinew
lapis herald
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yeah you'll kick the can down the road, later people will be using MiSTer_3DO when they might want the latest main.

calm night
ivory ingot
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That said the instructions only say to overwrite the existing main and like we just saw, it'll get overwritten by update_all, so people need to know about that

sharp pendant
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Why is Load from CD defaulting to off? I don't know under what circumstances you would want this set to off if you need it to load CDs...

ivory ingot
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I just set it to on, saved settings and forgot about it 😄

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It does seem like an odd choice but I don't know anything about the 3DO

distant grove
oak owl
fickle onyx
visual sonnet
marble jetty
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I am annoyed at myself at how quickly I adapted to L, R, and Start being the kick buttons

vapid swallow
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We are so gaming tonight, boys.

dire sinew
marble jetty
marble jetty
vapid swallow
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This is seriously one of the worst fighting games ever made imo, but the jank is so bad you cant stop

ivory ingot
marble jetty
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Or

marble jetty
ivory ingot
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I thought that was literally update_all's job but sure ok

marble jetty
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works_on_my_machine.png

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It’ll update it when there’s a new MiSTer main to distribute, otherwise it doesn’t touch it because one is already there

dire sinew
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as I understand it, update_all will only overwrite main if the version it has is newer

marble jetty
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Yup

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The guy did something wrong on his end

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maybe transferring not using binary

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Probably it tbh

ivory ingot
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That wouldn't be it

dire sinew
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which, in theory, should never happen if you're running the unstable EXCEPT when the unstable is older than the stable

ivory ingot
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He wouldn't have a working main if that was the cause

dire sinew
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I wonder what happens if you delete and copy a new main over, don't reboot, and then run update_all

marble jetty
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I’ll continue to monitor the situation, great ideas everyone, thank you

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3do 👀

dire sinew
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Oh god are we moving the needle?

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We work hard so we can play hard

marble jetty
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we are 3DO

vapid swallow
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We need a gigachad hero to fix Doom 3DO

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this music is banging

visual sonnet
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its being worked on

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its called OptiDoom

golden schooner
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wow you guys are still playing 3do, that's yesterdays news

karmic basin
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It's cute how suddenly Robby is a big 3DO fan.

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"omg, the 3DO is the coolest ever. So fun! uWu" - Robby

covert wagon
marble jetty
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Y’all just jealous that I’m on my 3DO journey. I’m all about the 3DO.

covert wagon
karmic basin
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wtf? Was I not here?

marble jetty
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ahahahahahahaha

karmic basin
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Screw it: Robby, I'm on your side now.

covert wagon
karmic basin
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Too late! I have Robby power now.

covert wagon
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And I don’t think you are from Wisconsin so that makes you better than @real rapids

covert wagon
karmic basin
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Trains are the ultimate power! CHOO CHOO, MUDDERRUCKER

covert wagon
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@marble jetty I found you a new phone wallpaper

karmic basin
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All of this is to distract from his agenda to push the M2 as a real thing.

covert wagon
karmic basin
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M POO

visual sonnet
covert wagon
signal mango
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Thanks, @karmic basin

visual sonnet
gloomy flint
signal mango
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They're great

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He's got new version coming out soon. I'd pick that one up.

golden schooner
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Fancy. I just used an m30

visual sonnet
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Found some graphic corruption in Slayer

slender fox
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@spring basin @signal mango here is a recent picture done by the school photographer of the family. I paid extra for him to sneak this shot.

vapid agate
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you married a vampire

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dang, thats harsh

forest lichen
visual sonnet
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Space Hulk is so damn good

slender fox
zinc ingot
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Will the 3D0 core only work on a certain resolution? TRied all kind of configs too no avail.

ivory ingot
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My MiSTer is configured to output at 1024x768 and the 3DO core works fine on it. What are you trying to do specifically? HDMI or analog output?

empty narwhal
junior ledge
warm kiln
tribal sandal
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Would a snes controller through snac work on this core?

empty narwhal
mystic abyss
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Do saves function, or is that still being worked on? I tried saving in Wolfenstein 3D with no luck. Was wondering if I was missing something?

fossil sorrel
# visual sonnet Space Hulk is so damn good

I also loved Space Hulk and played it alot on the 3DO when it came out. I think it was ahead of its time in atmosphere and sound design. I remember really liking the voice acting and the influence of Aliens on the sound design and hud, elements which were sadly removed from the ps1 port.

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Probly due to copyright concerns

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So 3DO version best

visual sonnet
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The 3DO version was definitely the best

fossil sorrel
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Yes 3DO version best!

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3DO VERSION BEST!!!!

warm kiln
# empty narwhal Can you please suggest me a HDMI -> VGA adapter that definitely works?

Unlike with a lot of adapters in this category, the common chipsets in HDMI to VGA converters you find online are generally low lag & high-quality when it comes to conversion, also being highly compliant when it comes to non-standard video signals.

As such, I’ve always just bought what’s cheap on Amazon, and it’s worked well. This is the specific adapter I use in my setup, but there are many other companies that also clone this design:

https://a.co/d/09Y5kOQX

fossil sorrel
junior ledge
restive oasis
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RF is a different beast to VGA

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i want to jump on the 3DO train but i need a vga adapter...

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which ive ordered i just dont have it here yet

fossil sorrel
warm kiln
# junior ledge Can you use something like this to hook to a CRT tv?

Generally, anything which converts to a 480i signal like this will introduce both lag and visual artifacts. It’s not ideal for MiSTer, and you’re better off just using single RAM with the Analog I/O board and something like this with an old VCR:

https://ultimatemister.com/product/mikes11-active-composite-svideo/

🕹️MikeS11 Y/C Active – Composite & S-Video Adapter for MiSTer FPGA The MikeS11 Y/C Active is a high-quality video adapter that enables you to connect your MiSTer FPGA to a CRT television or any…

restive oasis
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tough if you need dual ram to enjoy the greatest of all video game consoles Three Dee Oh

visual sonnet
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Not tough at all. Get dual ram. The end

marble jetty
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Just a reminder that dual ram is used at the beginning of a core’s development and once it’s gone through optimization single ram becomes the primary release candidate.

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If you don’t want to purchase dual ram then just wait until the core is further along. No need to purchase it.

ivory ingot
# zinc ingot Hdmi

Nope there's nothing special about it outputting over hdmi, you should go over the setup instructions in the pins and make sure you didn't miss a step

karmic basin
dull knot
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People should just buy a second ram stick just because dual-RAM setups are superior! 😌

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I wish Taki shipped my superstation + dock as fast as he did ship my ram order lol

weary rain
tribal sandal
covert wagon
onyx halo
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Avoid running off CD for now as music will skip. This needs a proper fix. ODE or Emulator is best

Link to demo: https://github.com/retroloveletter/terminus/releases/tag/game-demo-a

** Controls **
A - Fire weapon
C - Open door / interact with environment
Hold B, then press C - Change weapon
Hold C, then press B - Quickturn
X - Toggle map
L/...

▶ Play video
GitHub

Avoid running off CD for now as music will skip. This needs a proper fix. ODE or Emulator is best
See demo footage at https://www.youtube.com/@retroloveletter
Controls
A - Fire weapon
C - Open door...

signal mango
ashen lark
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Has anyone tested Doogie Hauzer yet? That’s my favorite 3do joint

marble jetty
marble jetty
ionic plank
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Uncanny

ashen lark
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Your average 3do owner

storm moth
ashen lark
storm moth
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Game runs at like 4 fps but apparently that's accurate

covert wagon
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but considering its a fully 3D world not surprising. With some actual physics involved too

ashen lark
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Mewing physics

marble jetty
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It’s called the 3DO because when it renders 3D it goes “OH NO”

ashen lark
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Should have called the console the 3D-ish

covert wagon
karmic basin
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Robby drew the short straw and has to be Randy's "beautiful assistant" this week for his magic shows.

covert wagon
karmic basin
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I'm more interested in seeing Robby pull off that outfit.

vapid swallow
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You guys are looking at it wrong. Low FPS is a feature of the 3DO, it teaches you to get good. If you can beat games 5-20FPS you can demolish them at 60.

karmic basin
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It gives you time to really appreciate the graphics

tight island
signal mango
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Genesis

covert wagon
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just dont try and use the 3DO controller with the Genesis core or vise versa as they may be pin compatible but they are not SIGNAL compatible

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I mean I dont think anything bad would happen haha...but its not the same signaling across the controllers even if they use the same ports

vapid swallow
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I use a Genesis one and bought an adapter to shove the 3DO end into so I dont mess up the genesis adapter

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so Reflex > Genesis adapter > Genesis Extension cable > 3DO

signal mango
#

These are great. You also get some extra length from the reflex usb cable.

onyx halo
#

Length: 5'11.64''

onyx halo
marble jetty
dire sinew
#

neither is jaguar

covert wagon
# golden schooner Except Saturn and jaguar

I am slightly amused by everyone I've seen comment in the past "but 3DO sucks" now comment "I wish I'd known we need dual ram before I bough X"....but wait...I thought it sucked? lol

dire sinew
#

Sometimes you want to understand why something sucks

#

those of us with dual ram now understand completely

covert wagon
#

Lol I just feel bad for MiSTer sellers; lotta "I feel like I got scammed" comments. Like the manufacturers know what the core devs are doing

golden schooner
dire sinew
#

The target is single ram, and SRG is a madman, so we will see what happens

golden schooner
#

The ssone is single ram only?

dire sinew
#

yeah, and the multisystem 2

vapid agate
#

SRG stands for single ram god

covert wagon
#

its gotta be dual ram; 3DO "Three DIMMS ONLY"

marble jetty
#

Oh my god this core is like three days old, why do people think a single ram version isn’t happening

#

Nerds and their FOMO

vapid agate
marble jetty
#

no lol

covert wagon
golden schooner
#

Because Saturn is 4 years WIP and doesn’t seem any closer to a unified build

#

5 years WIP?

covert wagon
#

you could give them a free $100 and they'd yell it was five twenties and not one hundred dollar bill

vapid agate
marble jetty
#

but it has a single ram build that’s good enough for 99% of the people out there

vapid agate
#

its effectively single ram

golden schooner
vapid agate
#

dont let the brain worms take over

marble jetty
#

the silent majority isn’t complaining they’re just having fun playing the games!

golden schooner
#

I’ve never played a game in my life

#

Despise them really

covert wagon
marble jetty
#

the leaps of logic people make to avoid blaming themselves is astonishing

dire sinew
#

I can't decide who is more upset about the fact that it is dual ram right now. Folks who can't play, or folks convincing people who can't play that it's gonna be ok

golden schooner
#

Anyone buying MMS2 had it coming that thing is ugly and therefore they have bad taste and make poor decisions

marble jetty
#

I think it looks like a modern TG16

covert wagon
#

clearly they went with the TG16 / euro console vibes. Which makes sense cause UK

marble jetty
covert wagon
#

Its an Amstrad GX4000 with some differences

marble jetty
#

I don’t even have single ram!

marble jetty
#

no, I can’t let FOMO nerds win

storm moth
#

This is the first time I actually slapped a second ram stick on my mister for this core

covert wagon
#

they need to gid gud and have every variant on MiSTer available AT ALL TIMES

marble jetty
#

someone needs to put them in their place

covert wagon
#

I have more MiSTers than I have rooms in the house to run them in 🤣

dire sinew
#

I think this is maybe louder because this is the first new core since MMS2 and the SSO, so new folks don't know how core dev works

golden schooner
covert wagon
#

"Im Robbby yap yap yap GOTTEM"

marble jetty
#

The funny part is that people get upset at me for throwing a reality check

#

It’s literally the “stop having fun” meme

sharp pendant
#

I did think it was shortsighted that multisystem and Taki's new one couldn't take dual ram, it has felt inevitable for a long time now that eventually you would need a dual ram set up to play some cores (certainly have them more stable, in better condition)

marble jetty
#

Don’t you people need to go take Tylenol for your bad back and knees, stop harassing people for single ram!

golden schooner
#

Aren’t we like the same age ish

marble jetty
#

lol its not short sighted, people want to connect to their CRTs

golden schooner
#

Can’t someone’s new IO board do both

marble jetty
#

oh yeah?

sharp pendant
#

Yeah

dire sinew
#

My dual ram mister addons stack is connected to a CRT right meow

marble jetty
#

Do those vendors sell that new IO board?

dire sinew
#

I have 2 dual ram stacks connected to CRTs

dire sinew
#

IO direct? I dunno, I confuse the order - it's one of the two

marble jetty
#

ok so Pork does, which is nice, anyone else?

dire sinew
#

I think ivory has one

golden schooner
#

Way to move the goalposts Robby

#

First it was that’s not possible

covert wagon
#

@marble jetty is our FPGA doctor dispensing harsh truths

golden schooner
#

Then who sells it

#

Then “well do others sell it”

dire sinew
#

and really, any HDMI > VGA adapter will do the trick

vapid agate
sharp pendant
#

People connecting MiSTer's to CRTs is a minority of users, so not being able to go dual ram to support Tubemen was a risky gambit

vapid agate
#

I dont think so, a ton of people use crts on mister

covert wagon
#

thanks Dr @marble jetty

marble jetty
#

why are you people so invested in othrt people adhering to the project standard of single ram

#

Can you answer me that?

#

Official repo doesn’t even distribute dual ram builds

marble jetty
#

how is that short sighted to adhere to that

sharp pendant
marble jetty
#

If that’s the case then what I can do lol

covert wagon
golden schooner
#

Sorry I woke up and chose violence today. In the case of the ssone I imagined it as a ps1 first and mister second.

covert wagon
#

so like 5% tops in my very unscientific poll of "vibe"

vapid agate
#

What this is, in general, is a lack of misunderstanding of the mister ecosystem, which is an uphill battle which will likely NEVER be solved, because people outside of this discord and the githubs do not understand the intricacies compared to you guys who live in the trenches

vapid agate
#

it should not be surprising

marble jetty
sharp pendant
#

This is another point, with the new options to go digital to analogue to connect to a CRT - those people can have a dual ram set up. It is only people using the old Analogue iO board with those outputs who can't

covert wagon
#

I am VERY surprised people focus on like 2 saturn games on dual ram that run SLIGHTLY slower as some major issue. Its a couple frames...in two games. Out of a library in the four digits...on an FPGA board that was meant for students to poke at...that you can get for under $200

golden schooner
#

Robby should change his name to sad ram daddy

covert wagon
vapid agate
#

but people hear "dont work" and assume EVERY game has the same limitation

dire sinew
#

God I hate this discussion

vapid agate
#

the mister ecosystem is an ant hill of dependencies and diversions

marble jetty
#

Part of what’s funny to me is that people use Jaguar as a reason to use dual ram and now it’s like 3DO. You guys don’t give a shit about those consoles, don’t start pretending you do now!

vapid agate
#

I kind of wanted to play jag cd, fwiw lol

golden schooner
#

I heard dudes that like jaguar also drink and drive.

sharp pendant
#

The benefit of dual ram is Jaguar/Jag CD which probably won't work well on single ram, and lets see what happens with 3DO.

golden schooner
#

Not good people

marble jetty
#

yeah got nothing on that HUH

sharp pendant
#

Anyhow, for people not using an old analogue iO board, if you can still get a second 128 stick cheap then at this point, why not just upgrade to dual ram? Is it still like $20-25 from Taki? You aren't getting many pints down the pub with that anymore

golden schooner
#

Actually we’ve already a ram standards change - neogeo forced 128mb ram

marble jetty
#

yeah it’s dirt cheap now lol

golden schooner
#

Yeah it was $32 total shipped to use United States.

marble jetty
#

wow, way to aura farm

golden schooner
#

I canceled it since I was able to fix the core to run on 32mb

marble jetty
#

oh

#

Wait you have 128/32?

golden schooner
#

Yes

marble jetty
#

I have 128/128

#

Huh, guess I’m the superior one now

vapid agate
#

thats 256

golden schooner
#

That’s why I made that rbf that works for 128/32 with greyrogues fix

marble jetty
#

Wow, imagine having to fix a build just to play a game when I could just play it normally

#

Couldn’t be me!

golden schooner
#

Because you don’t know how or what?

marble jetty
#

well, yeah NotLikeThis

golden schooner
#

I’m glad my wife isn’t home I’m laughing like an idiot and I’m still in bed and I need to get up and go to work

marble jetty
covert wagon
marble jetty
#

Wait is that phrase offensive

#

I don’t know anymore

covert wagon
marble jetty
covert wagon
#

ooh...touched

marble jetty
covert wagon
#

I mean...maybe? But I will still say "he's touched in the head"...but yeah maybe not the most polite. But in the grand scheme of ways to say it its like Level 1 bad haha

karmic basin
#

The R•E•A•L 3DOs were the ones we R•E•A•L'd along the way.

spring basin
#

I'm never not amused by how many of you don't realize how many people own misters that are completely ignorant of this place and would be insanely confused if their updater pulled down cores that didn't work at all on their system

vapid agate
#

Case in point, a close friend of mine, before I gave him a mister stack for his birthday, had it in his mind that the mister was some kind of capture card device designed for retro games. Then he told me he looked up a wiki for mister stuff and closed the tab because he was scared he stumbled accross some dark web stuff.

I can imagine that's what the average outside user looking in thinks of this stuff with no real prior exposure lol

spring basin
#

ONLY TWO K'S CAREFUL

marble jetty
#

The key starts with k, best I can do

karmic basin
#

Pay attention to users? Not even once!

covert wagon
vapid agate
#

is that a mister problem or a linux problem

#

😏

spring basin
#

the forum is full of a different variety of weirdness than here

tribal sandal
#

We should have a verification process we’re by dual ram users get discord upgrades because they are superior Muahaha

spring basin
#

I wonder if the 'I need someone to explain what every single change update_all downloads is to me' is still there

vapid agate
#

the way things are going, people are already slowly leaving discord

spring basin
#

JT probably giving him a stroke now

golden schooner
#

that guy won though? I just did update all and now it has like a change log script that can be run

covert wagon
#

I had to have my ID barcode scanned every time I buy a fucking bottle of liquor at most liquor stores

#

mine was having to give my ID to buy a BBQ lighter. Granted Id never be mean to any cashier because they didnt decide that shit but I was like "wait are you fucking with me"

spring basin
golden schooner
#

no, just what was changed

spring basin
#

yeah, that wasn't what they wanted to know

#

it was like 'it downloaded core_X, what did they change?!?!?!'

golden schooner
#

ohhh

#

yeah no

covert wagon
#

Its so hard. I was getting comments on SuperStation One videos that were basically "this isn't a MiSTer. It doesn't even have the arcade games"....and realizing people think it ships with hundreds of roms. Just telling them "yo go run update all" and them realizing that exists...wild times

#

YOU GOT AN ID FOR THAT POWER SON?

#

My fav is the absolutely boss level data tracking Amex does; I can go into any greasy ass dive in Chicago and run my card and its approved. Go to some fancy cocktail bar? SECURITY ALERT HE ONLY DRINKS AT SHIT PLACES

#

they know my vibe

spring basin
#

my favorite amex moment was when my friend used it to purchase a macbook, then we drove to NYC and stopped for gas halfway there

#

and it was like 'nope, denied'

#

for the gas

vapid agate
#

Safety first!

spring basin
#

they were like who would purchase a macbook in virginia and then DRIVE to new jersey

vapid agate
#

I usually call my cc company if I'm doing any kind of traveling across state lines

covert wagon
#

haha yeah sometimes it's hilarious. I called them to say "hey I am going to put our down payment on our car purchase on the card. Figured Id let you know" and they were just "yo put the WHOLE CAR on it bro"...like wow...you'll really let me do some weird shit huh

#

and their charge card "you have no limit. We have a number we wont let you go over. No you cant know it. Have fun" weirdness

dull knot
ionic plank
#

Meanwhile Visa doesn’t give a shit. When I went to a wedding multiple states away last year they didn’t blink when I was buying snacks at a Sheetz in West Virginia

spring basin
#

it depends. all of them are smart enough to detect patterns

#

like if you purchased a plane ticket to X and now you are charging things in the vicinity of X they wont' flag it

#

I never even bothered to call amex when doing international travel and they never once flagged me. but I always purchased the flights with the same amex

covert wagon
spring basin
#

yes, their anti-fraud stuff has been sophisticated for a long time. a crapload of effort put into it

covert wagon
#

or a DE25 from Taiwan...that should 100% be 'suspicious' but its not

#

the GOAT version

#

I do wonder, and don't expect, if there's anything left in the tank for a CPU OC in the end

signal mango
#

So much smug talk in here

#

I, Virtual Matt, am the biggest 3do fan here. I discovered a game called Cyberdillo. You all should check it out.

golden schooner
#

i've been playing Cyberdildo is that different?

paper thistle
#

Spent yesterday touring the library finally while very hungover spent an absurd amount of time playing flopon/trip'd genuinely itching to get back to it! Are there any other puzzle/stacking action games I should look out for?

covert wagon
signal mango
#

Both games are the finest 3do has to offer

covert wagon
#

Everyone needs to play Plumbers Don't Use Cyberdildos. Absolute classic

karmic basin
vapid agate
#

what the heck is that penthouse photographer game about anyway

#

is it even a game

karmic basin
#

If you mean Penthouse® - No, not a real game. Although they do recommend you bring a joystick.

verbal fjord
#

what percentage of the 3DO catalogue would be over the Robby Horniness Index?

real rapids
#

100%

karmic basin
#

If we include all the workout titles of 90's moms in spandex?

verbal fjord
#

that would qualify

verbal fjord
#

ah, I see
uninstalles the 3DO core and goes back to PC-98

grim goblet
#

You got the PC-98 core running well enough to play a game on it? That's witchcraft

verbal fjord
#

No, I would have had to have imported a PC-98 🙁

sharp pendant
#

My body is ready.

shy dirge
#

Really awesome to see 3do coming to fpga

real rapids
#

I love that since the first core build went live, the only gaming I've done since then (outside of playing a Switch 2 game for one hour last night), is play 3DO.

sharp pendant
#

Is the core limited to one player/controller only at the moment?

real rapids
#

I actually sent that code into a couple gaming mags back in the day and got it published!

#

My friend and I accidentally discovered it at the time.

marble jetty
#

:CdFace:

#

GODDAMNIT

sharp pendant
#

My formative years were misspent in Games Workshop, so have already had a real softspot for Space Hulk.

marble jetty
#

I will not be defeated

real rapids
sharp pendant
#

Hah, literally that very one!

#

I popped in there quite recently to try get a present for my nephew!

verbal fjord
ember seal
#

anyone got a curated 3do list?

karmic basin
ember seal
#

i'm waiting for the femgex romhack

distant grove
fossil sorrel
#

#1329170138234097745 message

ember seal
#

nice thanks

fossil sorrel
#

Just add CPU Bach

#

Then it's good

marble jetty
#

Oh yeh I was supposed to add that huh

#

Still not adding plumbers don’t wear ties

forest lichen
marble jetty
#

There’s not even video, it’s just still images!

ashen palm
#

I checked out Snow Job. It has a panorama camera point-n-click mode that looks awesome

marble jetty
#

Oh my god is Plumbers Don’t Wear Ties an American visual novel?

#

IT TOTALLY IS LOL

#

sugoi desu nuts

ember seal
#

some cool lightgun games on here

ashen palm
marble jetty
ashen palm
# marble jetty Yeah this video is great lol

Majuular is legit. He has this little watched video where he goes on a diatribe about why games like Vanquish and DOOM Eternal are awesome, then goes on to make videos covering all of the Ultima series

marble jetty
ashen palm
#

Sure is! It was more for insane people like me!

fossil sorrel
#

Somebody test cpu bach!!

#

I only have 1 ram

dire sinew
#

I did

#

works fine

fossil sorrel
#

Pls

golden schooner
storm moth
sharp pendant
#

Thanks for confirming. The core is so far along already it may be worth putting together a list of missing features. Off hand:
-Second (multiple) controller/player support
-Kanji font ROM
-Analogue video
-Saving
-Mouse
-Steering wheel
-Lightgun
-Audio CD
-Photo CD

Anything else anyone can think of? Not including the VCD card as that is too much.

sharp pendant
#

What is that?

marsh wren
#

chd works

distant grove
sharp pendant
#

I don't know what you mean, as in snac support to use an original controller?

golden schooner
#

I too like to reply with one word answers to keep everyone guessing

unkempt ferry
#

I bought the 128meg for dual ram, only cost £10, for whatever core may use it, and the dual cores it's more than paid for itself.

sharp pendant
#

That was cheap... Where did you get it from?

tall marsh
#

i just got one for 30 usd on retroremake

marble jetty
#

wait, I mean like pinning opinions

#

I like pinning info

oak owl
fossil sorrel
#

Pretty amazing how everything everyone ever says in here remains forever

#

Stretching back years

gloomy flint
grim goblet
sharp pendant
#

Ah OK, that's good. Maybe it works but there is some sort of bug there

#

3DO doesn't have an RTC does it?

storm moth
#

I know one game complained I had too many files saved and I could delete some but I don't remember which game it was that complained. Was when I mass testing games and probably hadn't reset yet. Of course I slapped all my games in one folder

digital zodiac
golden schooner
#

controller

digital zodiac
digital zodiac
#

so it's just arcade buttons like coin, start, service

visual sonnet
covert wagon
golden schooner
#

tbh the whole 3do is pretty turgid

sharp pendant
#

Right so this is a load of protocols for different types of controller like mouse, flight stick etc.

visual sonnet
#

Used one of the demo CDs to access the interal storage. So it says 94% free. A file called acd.playlist is using 6%

visual sonnet
#

Only thing I noticed in Slayer that's off is when you're against a wall there's slight graphic corruption and the mini map in the lower left corner doesn't show any map.

warm kiln
gaunt imp
#

Pins need an update. The linked unstable main is from the 22nd but the most recent MiSTer main from SRG in the unstable nightly channel appears to work fine.

dull knot
#

@marble jetty , you’re fired

golden schooner
#

too late he's in jail already

gaunt imp
#

Maybe his eyes rolled so hard into his head when he saw my comment that they got stuck! I’m sorry I injured you Robby. 🙁

ionic plank
#

At least he can file for workman’s comp now

marble jetty
#

It’s ok, I’m going to jail tomorrow

golden schooner
#

RIP your 🎈 🪢

marble jetty
#

Red balloon knots?

golden schooner
visual sonnet
#

Mentioned this in passing to Robby in the Saturn channel, and figured I outta share it here those using the 3DO core. Once save games are supported, you'll want to keep Return Fire Maps O Death in the same folder as Return Fire, and Shock Wave Operation Jumpgate in the same folder as Shock Wave. Both titles are expansion packs that won't run if they don't see a game save from the base game when it checks internal memory

#

While I'm Rambling, not sure if when it's all said and done the Game Guru disc will run on the core, but if it does, it would also need to be placed in and ran from the folder of the game of the save file you wish to edit

left stump
#

Y'all gave me Single RAM FOMO Blues so I pulled the old beast out of storage and crossed my fingers... Man, this controller is much higher quality than I remembered. It's really nice.

distant grove
sharp pendant
#

Right, so if I am reading this right, if srg320 implements all the protocols on that page then all those various peripherals should (in theory) be supported.

#

What was the coin slot used for in practice? Some sort of arcade machine using a 3DO?

visual sonnet
distant grove
distant grove
#

Beavis and Butthead Cabinet Photo Creds to Kevin Page & This is a prototype arcade cabinet based on MTV’s Beavis and Butthead TV show. Less than 10-15 of these cabinets were ever produced…

American Laser Games 3DO System This is the 1993 Matte Top 3DO modified to a proprietary state for arcade use in American Laser Games cabinets. The only hardware difference between these units and …

turbid shuttle
#

When I got a 3do, one of the things that impressed me is how headphone line can get so loud even using headphones with high impedance

distant grove
#

If @covert wagon can't get someone to dump an arcade game, it's gonna rott with them in their grave

gloomy flint
#

Oh so it’s THOSE kind of people. I hate those people that got a one of a kind item that needs to be preserved like a proto and they go “NO! MINE! VALUE! MONIES!” Like Danhausen but real.

#

Especially to someone like me that has spent a large part of my adult life archiving stuff. I cannot fathom not archiving something like that.

visual sonnet
#

Yeah that drives me nuts

distant grove
#

The unit above was my only hope. But he doesn't respond to emails. So.

visual sonnet
#

You're still in possession of the physical item, so it's still special to own that

distant grove
#

Everyone is lucky I was the person who managed to get ahold of the orbatak disc. Or else it would have disappeared too

signal mango
#

Maybe the game is so bad, they are worried ppl will laugh at them for collecting trash

gloomy flint
visual sonnet
#

I've been living in hope of an NHL 96 prototype for 3DO for like 20 years now. Still no idea if one even exists, but there was some E3 1996 footage and the game looked fantasic.

sharp pendant
#

So, if we have a working core what else would be needed to support this arcade game?

visual sonnet
#

There was also a Star Trek TNG game in devlopment for 3DO. The screenshots looked sweet, but no idea how far along in devlopment it actually was.

gloomy flint
distant grove
sharp pendant
#

And Beavis and Butthead needs an Oceans 11 style heist

distant grove
#

Because Atari sucked and couldn't dev the game on 3 megs. They even tried to get 3do to put a second arm processor because they didn't want to optimize the game

sharp pendant
#

But American Laser Game seems like it could (potentially) be supported fairly easily

gloomy flint
grim goblet
distant grove
signal mango
#

Those games were on multiple platforms

wind bluff
#

sorry im a noob, but how can i download rbf core for 3DO ?

sharp pendant
signal mango
#

Always check the pins on any core thread

distant grove
#

@gloomy flint Also some like this

signal mango
#

Find the pin icon like this one

wind bluff
gloomy flint
distant grove
#

Do you remember what year?

gloomy flint
#

I’d say winter of 1995

distant grove
#

Yeah they were probably 3do units by then

signal mango
#

Did they also have arcade releases?

gloomy flint
#

I remember it had two guns and this huge projection screen in a black cabinet

signal mango
#

I think you just played the arcade games

gloomy flint
#

Something like this

#

Thought the screen was flatter like a projection screen

distant grove
gloomy flint
#

This one is more like it

signal mango
gloomy flint
#

So it was a laserdisc then

#

And an Amiga holy hell

distant grove
#

Mad dog 1 was never converted. Only 2 and crime patrol got conversions from what I'm aware

distant grove
#

There is the larger cdrom sticker on the side

sharp pendant
#

Are there any other dumped arcade games that use a 3DO as their hardware that could potentially be supported?

distant grove
#

1:1 laser disc scale btw, this is the reality of what laser disc owners had to deal with....

distant grove
sharp pendant
#

Mixed in with the regular games?

distant grove
#

Not sure honestly. Might have to check arcade dumps

#

All I know is a lot of them got uploaded to redump. Their site runs like ass for me and I can't get anything to load half the time

bold lily
#

Having a problem: I'm using a USB stick for 3DO games and bios (made sure to format it properly,) however, when trying to load a game, the games list comes up empty. However, when I try to load BIOS, all my games appear there. Doesn't seem right. Yes, I do have a dual-ram MiSTer.

grim goblet
bold lily
#

Yes.

grim goblet
#

If you do have the latest unstable, and have confirmed it's date from the mister OSD, the only thing I can think of is you're either missing the cue files, or there's a quirk or issue with the USB setup which i'm not equipped to help with.

dire sinew
#

what format are your games in?

bold lily
#

BIN/CUE

dire sinew
#

missing the cue files is exactly what I was thinking

bold lily
#

I'll pull the drive and double check.

dire sinew
#

Would explain why they show up in the bios load but not the game load. game loader is looking for cues, bios loader is looking for bins

bold lily
#

So after checking things on the drive, it actually recognizes the games in the folder. However, I have not been able to get any games to run. Wondering if I have the right bios (I'm using the FZ-10 named "boot.rom") Am I using the right bios?

dire sinew
#

if the usb drive is mounted, you can run update all with the bios database and it will grab the right one

grim goblet
#

AFAIK only the FZ-1 BIOS works

dire sinew
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MD5 (/Volumes/MiSTer/games/3DO/boot.rom) = f47264dd47fe30f73ab3c010015c155b

bold lily
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Got it working. It was the bios that was the problem. Thanks a bunch, everyone!

signal mango
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Doom was so bad and yet Wolfenstein runs great

dire sinew
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wolf runs great on the core

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someone said that that is an anomaly? that that is one emulators struggle with?

sharp pendant
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It is oft said that the version of Doom on 3DO is one of the worst versions, but Wolfenstein is possibly the best

visual sonnet
# signal mango

There's a very storied history behind the 3DO Doom port and why it's so terrible. It's actually incredible that it runs as well as it does when you read about everything that happened

waxen otter
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I've been searching but cannot find an answer in this channel on how to make CHD files show up

grim goblet
waxen otter
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but I do have that

ivory ingot
waxen otter
ivory ingot
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You must have missed a step, that's the only thing between you and the menu being able to see chd files

grim goblet
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If you replaced that with FTP while your mister was running, there's a chance it did not actually write it. Check the date of the MiSTer main binary in the OSD.

ivory ingot
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If you open the OSD with the 3DO core booted, press right then goto About what version is MiSTer? It should be v260322

waxen otter
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one sec triple checking all my stepz...

unkempt ferry
ivory ingot
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Taki RAM is still pretty cheap. USD20/~GBP15

waxen otter
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....well that is wacky, my Mister file was somehow 0220

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No idea how I put an old one in there today. Fixed and in!

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Thx for the assist.

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Now I can finally play BLONDE JUSTICE

grim goblet
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Truly the pinnacle of 3DO gaming, enjoy.

waxen otter
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Oh wow this woman just appeared on screen with CDs on her body parts.

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....i actually didn't know this was that kinda game, I just thought the game name was funny lolol

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but I guess I can report the video playback sometimes has intense flicker, sometimes has zero or minimal flicker, and now I'm noping out and going back to Gex

grim goblet
waxen otter
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Gex doesn't take his top off I hope!!

grim goblet
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He has no shame

waxen otter
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ugh I'm going back to the Intellivision Amico, a console for families

gloomy flint
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She did the best she could with what she had

visual sonnet
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What Becky pulled off was truly a miracle in and of itself. I know Becky had mentioned releasing the source code but then unfortunately Becky passed away 😭

weary rain
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There’s OptiDoom which tries to refine the code

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Becky did release the source code

visual sonnet
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Oh ok. I had read it wasn't. Glad to see it was

gloomy flint
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One good way of looking at it though, she’s with Jennell again and that’s what she wanted

visual sonnet
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Tried giving Shock Wave a go. Opening FMV plays perfectly but black screen after that

left stump
waxen otter
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Sid Meier's CPU Bach is super interesting, but I'm gonna have to wait for the constant clicking to be resolved - it's instrument-specific, which is interesting

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it's kinda funny how I've waited until this core released to even begin looking into the full 3DO library. so much weird stuff. CPU Bach in particular trips me out.

storm moth
visual sonnet
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Ah. I'll try n load it again

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Shockwave 2 has some issues but was able to play

left stump
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Yeah, 3DO doesn't deserve the hate it gets. I managed to get one dirt cheap with like 20 games when some rich kids were basically getting rid of their trash shortly before the release of the PlayStation. I played the hell out of it. I remember I could get games for like $5 in the Best Buy clearance bin. Heh.

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Glad this core is letting people experience all of the weird shit on it.

visual sonnet
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I loved my 3DO when I had one In 1994

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It's so unique

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I've used mine all the time over the years. Plenty of fun to bad had on it

left stump
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Yeah, I occasionally pull it out. It has been quite a few years since the last time so I was scared it wasn't going to turn on today. It died during Gex and apparently one of the capacitors is leaky. Working again after I cleaned up the crust. Looks like I need to learn how to solder and do a recap to keep this thing kicking another 30 years. 😅

visual sonnet
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1upRestorations does recaps for a pretty fair price

left stump
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I'll keep that in mind! The MiSTer core being a reality might give me the bravery to try it myself though. Always wanted to learn.

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Was surprised how simple it is inside this thing when poking around in there

sharp pendant
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I recapped the PSU on mine that fixed audio issues and disc loading. I had done quite a few simple recaps and it was doable but I found it tough. The caps were in quite tight together and were hard to get out, that solder didn't want to give. But, with perseverance it is doable without being a pro.

weary rain
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I recapped my 3DO and installed Fixel ODE

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sadly Fixel disappeared and kinda exit scammed

gloomy flint
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Something about not getting the units they paid for and Fixel asking for more money while still owing SAG the units already paid.

weary rain
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Yeah I got the 3DO ODE because SAG found some stock randomly after they fell out

visual sonnet
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That sucks to hear

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I also have fixels ode for my FZ1 and he was very helpful with the issues I initially had with it. It's really sad to hear things didn't end well

hybrid lotus
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As I am a part of the single ram group, how is Hell A Cyberpunk Thriller running on the core?

visual sonnet
distant grove
distant grove
# gloomy flint MARS project not withstanding, once Stone Age Gamer had their issues with Fixel,...

Something about the issue is more dynamic than just Fixel being a bad person. I wish he would correct his wrongs, but at this point he is too deep. He was a massive asset to the 3do community, as he knew the 3do hardware down to the cycles and we had a pretty important 3do project that was dropped over all this ode shit. I just wish I could go back in time and convince him to not get into the ode shit.

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The best thing to come out of the ODE bullshit was the fact that he agreed to make open source stuff so other people can make them. Now we have ode's that are super affordable.

marble jetty
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I’d assume so until told otherwise

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That was for whoever just posted the analog question

smoky linden
marble jetty
karmic basin
smoky linden
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480i burns just as much as cycles as 240p on the original system (displaying on CRT and all that) For emulators, they write full frames instead of interlaced

hybrid lotus
covert wagon
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is there still something up with unstable main? OSD works but my controller just does NOT want to bind correctly at all. Xbox Series X. Just doing odd things even if I rebind in main menu before

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I should say it binds fine in core but on the main menu its a mess

marble jetty
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lol this guy doesn’t know how to bind a controller

covert wagon
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It really is hard to think the core has much to improve playing around with and capturing it

marble jetty
covert wagon
marble jetty
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lol

covert wagon
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but yeah for real that main OSD binding is jacked up for me vs its binding before changing out to unstable

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it moved OK / X / Accept...whatever we want to call it on MiSTer...to R3 analog stick push in

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and no matter what I rebind it to...moves to R3. Menu open is L3. I mean it works so whatever but I feel crazy

marble jetty
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Did you get latest MiSTer main

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From pins or unstable

covert wagon
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MiSTer_unstable_20260322_149efb

marble jetty
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Yup that’s latest

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I haven’t tested it myself, that’s from this morning

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Can you try rolling back to yesterday’s main?

covert wagon
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MiSTer_3DO did it as well for me. The second one, not the first with the OSD issue in core

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ill delete the profiles and try again...or try a third controller. This is my dual ram test MiSTer so its had more shit loaded into it than....ill stop here

covert wagon
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ill try next capture session. Just finished this round

marble jetty
marble jetty
covert wagon
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your momma already captured them...in her mouth

marble jetty
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GROSS

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unless you mean your nuts then it’s funny

covert wagon
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I mean you did this to yourself. I was all nice and trying to troubleshoot issues in unstable main and you had to bring it back to nuts

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there is no convo Robby cant pivot to testicles. Its in his HR folder at Gearbox; "Abnormal fascination with testicles"

covert wagon
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probably when you suggested they rebrand to NutzBox

marble jetty
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someone made a king of the hill pinball game and I thought of you lol

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they were handing out stickers

covert wagon
# marble jetty

I feel like Hank Hill would not like pinball; he'd think it was immoral or gambling

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but then he'd try it and get addicted

marble jetty
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That sounds very accurate lol

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Oh hey if I could ask a favor from @covert wagon, @distant grove, and @karmic basin

Think y’all could put together a top 10 or 20 list of 3DO games to play?

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I want to direct people to it, because I’m assuming this console’s library will be new to most

covert wagon
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1 - Killing Time - FPS - Console Exclusive

2 - D's Diner Directors Cut - Point and Click Horror - Content Exclusive

3 - Escape from Monster Manor - FPS - Console Exclusive

4 - The Need for Speed - Racing

5 - Road Rash - Racing

6 - Captain Quazar - Run and Gun

7 - Blade Force - third person shooter - Console Exclusive

8 - Belzerion - FPS adventure - Console Exclusive with English Translation

9 - Lucienne's Quest - RPG - Also on Saturn

10 - Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels - FPS - Best on 3DO

11 - PO'ed - FPS - Just Trust Me Bro

12 - Super Street Fighter II Turbo - Fighting

13 - Cannon Fodder - real time something or other

14 - Wolfenstein 3D - FPS - A Very Good Port

15 - Casper - Isometric like "platformer"

16 - Gex - 2D Platformer

17 - The Horde - Strategy

18 - Shockwave 2: Beyond the Gate - FPS Descent like

19 - Immercenary - FPS - Its a Vibe

20 - Doctor Hauzer - Survival Horror - Play English Translation

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there you go @marble jetty

marble jetty
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Damn I ran out of space in my important info post lol

covert wagon
dire sinew
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TFW you go back to work after a 4 day weekend only to realize that the mister at your work desk doesn't have dual ram, so you can't fuck around with 3DO instead of working

dire sinew
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embarrassing, really

marble jetty
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oh man you rammed yourself

signal herald
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Is this where we tell Robby that "Plumbers don't wear ties" is a system exclusive?

marble jetty
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DID HE LIST IT

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Phew he didn’t

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I’m never playing that game omg

signal herald
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Nah, he put the sequel PO'd

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you really should play plumbers first though to get the full experience

covert wagon
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also if Doctor Hauzer was not listed as one of the games that needs RAM offsets due to horizontal artifacting it needs to be

marble jetty
distant grove
tidal dirge
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has there been a homebrew port of doom for 3DO?

signal herald
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so, it has been like 30 years...but has the horde aged well?

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nevermind, it was hidden in the middle of the list

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and #17 on vge...sigh, so focused on missing plumbers

fallen stratus
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ive searched through and tried to follow everything everyones said, using the mister v2 file, using a redump game thats bin/cue, followed the pin instructions... but im still getting the blue screen. the 3do logo pops up but then goes to blue screen. i have a dual ram setup. any thoughts that i might have missed?

dire sinew
fallen stratus
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v260220

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oh wait

dire sinew
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that's why. You aren't using unstable main.

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gimme a second, I will get you the script to update it

fallen stratus
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hmm

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its ok, i can update it. thats the one in the pin right?

dire sinew
dire sinew
fallen stratus
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oh, i see

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its still saying v260220

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3do v 260321

dire sinew
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after running the script?

fallen stratus
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yup

dire sinew
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remove the line from your INI

fallen stratus
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what line

dire sinew
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do you have a [3DO] main=mister_3dO_v2 line in your ini?

storm moth
fallen stratus
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no i dont.

dire sinew
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So the script ran, found a new mister main, and the system rebooted?

fallen stratus
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its saying "mister main unstable core mister_unstable_20260324_07cc37 already latest version, nothing to do here"

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and it reboots

dire sinew
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can you take a screenshot of the contents of your /media/fat directory on your SD card

fallen stratus
dire sinew
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delete mister_unstable and unstable_MiSTer.old

fallen stratus
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deleted

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reran the script. same thing. still says v260220

dire sinew
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very weird. Ok, then we do it the linux way. Are you ftping in, or are you popping the card out of the mister?

covert wagon
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this is why I dont FTP. Even when set correctly 1 / 100 transfers it does something silly

dire sinew
devout crow
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I've been using SFTP with decent results.

fallen stratus
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ftp

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ill try with taking the card out

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that did it

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mister v260324

covert wagon
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I didnt test diff memory offsets but Hauzer has the issue

dire sinew
fallen stratus
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yes it is

spring basin
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replacing running binaries on mister requires extra steps, that's probably why

covert wagon
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stupid question...does the core save? lol I cant remember now

fallen stratus
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thanks for all your help

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crash n burn here i come

dire sinew
covert wagon
grim goblet
grim goblet
covert wagon
tidal dirge
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I'm always impressed with srg320's first released builds. based in the testing sheet, out of all the games tested most are playable

covert wagon
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but obv for videos I am just hitting top note shit

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and I don't think 3DO testing vids will have legs so it will probably be these two then wait until there is a fundamental core update. Honestly FPGA videos have been doing less views in 2026 than 2025