#Panasonic 3DO

1 messages · Page 8 of 1

distant grove
#

Meme made in 2021

#

I admittedly made too many memes like this for my Instagram (engagement bait)

weak hound
#

Virtual Matt is pretending OSSC didn’t exist

ionic plank
signal mango
weary rain
#

RGB is only worth it for high-end scalers or PVMs

#

It looks good but it still looks like N64 with that Vaseline smear look

#

That’s why I like the Mister because it cleans up the analog noise

#

While still giving an accurate picture

visual sonnet
tidal dirge
#

RGB only seems necessary to me if you grew up playing console games on emulators, and you prefer the bright saturated look.

weary rain
#

I think it’s the best if you’re running a retro setup on a modern TV

#

i don’t have room for a CRT at the moment 🙁

golden schooner
signal mango
#

It began as a @weak hound exclusive but the fans demanded access

weary rain
#

Gotta love it

idle fox
#

Been thinking about doing one of those on a spare mint FZ1 just sitting in my shop so I can either add it to my setup or find it a home. I have a few of the 3DO RGB kits kicking around and one was planned for that, but honestly I like my clean setup upstairs with all HDMI sources (mister as well) into scaler, and its the only PixelFX kit I have not installed yet... choices choices!

dire sinew
#

Y'all remember when SRG announced a 3DO core 15 years ago?

#

can't believe it's been that long

#

we have come so far

real rapids
tribal sandal
ionic plank
#

One game playable by Christmas 2040

karmic basin
dire sinew
#

You know I can’t answer that

sharp pendant
unkempt ferry
#

I'd settle for another tweeted "sneak peak" video! 🙂

paper totem
#

Who let AI manage the flight deck?

iron tundra
#

Maybe it's a government shutdown and there's nobody at flight control.

hardy sapphire
#

Turned on my 3DO the other day and swear it smelled like fish

#

I think I better do that recap soon

#

Or maybe the guy who sold it to me was just really into sushi and put some into the console not sure

weary rain
hardy sapphire
dire sinew
fast pebble
#

He could at least be more variable and rotate his moving pictures instead of being stuck at a single one

ionic plank
#

Yoooooooo

#

Nice to see so many games booting, and FMV play back working pretty well!

unkempt ferry
#

Aye, new video!!!!

ivory spoke
#

I am awake now.

gaunt imp
#

Oh wow, that’s looking really good. Some audio and video aberrations but mostly clean.

ivory spoke
#

Might be playing Twisted before Thanksgiving.

sharp pendant
#

Damn, looking good! For people more familiar with the library, how does the speed look? What issues people spotting in there?

ionic plank
#

The only game there I own is blade force and other than some audio crackling in the intro it looks good to me

jagged scroll
real rapids
#

💪 3do muscleleft

covert wagon
#

Clearly Srg wanted to show people vid playback is doing well

#

I wonder how Killing Time is faring considering how uniquely it uses fmv

low drift
#

I don’t want to disappoint anyone, but it looks like it’ll still be many months before we have a beta of the core . I hope I’m wrong...😞

covert wagon
low drift
covert wagon
#

And I’d rather have testing videos. I have that 3DO FPGA itch

dire sinew
#

It’s in Zet’s hands

covert wagon
#

I’ve got more damn videos to schedule than I know what to do with anyway haha. Push it til January when we’re all bored and cold

low drift
#

Nice month to Killing Time

faint stirrup
#

The core should be tested with Plumber dont wear ties 🤓

covert wagon
#

Last play was the Nightdive version just to see my name in the game

low drift
#

I've tried in emulators, but I need to feel the low fps

covert wagon
#

It’s a bummer the PS1 version that leaked is so unstable as you get a nice frame rate and the 3DO layout

#

But it just crashes too much to truly be fun

low drift
#

I will need to try then 😂

paper totem
#

What a hypergexual experience

covert wagon
ionic plank
#

Unless they’re into that

fast pebble
#

Weirdos

#

Probably stop moving every 33ms

sharp pendant
#

Running through the video the image looks really good, only seeing a few small artefacts popping up. Sound has some distortion/clipping, wonder what the cause of that is. On the whole though, really impressive. Did anyone spot any other issues? Speed seem fine? It didn't look to be running too slow, but I am no expert.

sinful cliff
#

Wouldn't be surprised if the lack of experience with the 3DO software causes a lot of people to report on "false flag" problems once the core becomes public.

sharp pendant
#

Yeah, hopefully we have enough people with real hardware to verify against

ionic plank
#

I’ll be doing my part 🫡

cunning drift
dire sinew
#

happens with every core

ionic plank
#

GitHub Issue: “[CLOSED] [WONTFIX] Killing Time regularly dips into 10-15 fps range when enemies are on screen”

real rapids
#

Sadly, I no longer own a 3DO, and my memory is certainly not good enough for accuracy testing. But dang-it, I will test non-the-less!

dire sinew
#

Testing games on the jaguar core was basically

"surely, it didn't really run like this".....

"oh...ok....ok it did"

"and...uh....they wanted....money in exchange for this?"

real rapids
#

At the very least, I do remember how poorly most of the games ran. Just can't rely on my memory for the smaller details or random bugs in the games that were always there. But I will always remember playing Crash'n Burn at like 10fps!

distant grove
#

Several games have revisions from initial release to updated repressed copies and they're all documented at this point

sinful cliff
distant grove
#

Our games are related to actually hardware and OS issues that can only be replicated on a very specific revision. A revision he is, more than likely, not replicating.

paper totem
#

I find the lack of Wing Commander 3/Super Wing Commander footage disturbing

#

Which will we get first, Wing Commander 3: VR or 3DO Core... The race is on!

distant grove
#

Other than that there is just some game crash issues related to specific software like Brain Dead and NVRAM formatting issues with games like The Horde and Killing Time

signal mango
#

This thread is on my top 20 threads list

real rapids
#

But where does it rank in that top 20!?

paper totem
# distant grove Would be insane

I made a viewer for WC3 3d models, I had it decode the capital ships/fighters, hangar bays etc. Made it support VR on SteamVR too.

vapid swallow
#

I got my 3do hooked up and ready to roll for testing

#

I got it recapped for this lol

visual sonnet
#

My FZ-1 and FZ-10 are ready to go

covert wagon
obsidian pine
#

Looking through the list of 3DO titles that came out towards the end of its lifespan and feeling very disappointed we never got a “Rochelle, Rochelle” game.

tribal sandal
#

For me the non release of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was sad because I had a magazine saying it was in development cryclops

obsidian pine
#

At least the new MK2 port is awesome

#

Also kind of funny that the Saturn ended up with the only good port of UMK3 that generation.

fast pebble
#

I prefer "better than the rest"-port

karmic basin
#

I'm excited to help test as well. Just call me...

A Gex worker gex

tribal sandal
obsidian pine
visual sonnet
#

Hoping for a Christmas miracle and we see a test core by Christmas

real rapids
#

One Crash'n Burn by Christmas!

ashen lark
signal mango
ashen lark
#

Have not, any good?

signal mango
#

I was hoping you could give us a review

ashen palm
#

Ours are full of Raw Thrills games. Eugene Jarvis still doing it

real rapids
#

Sounds like a blast. A Cruis'n Blast. 🚗

ashen lark
signal mango
#

My mistake. I thought you were a potato.

#

We eagerly await your 3do review.

ionic plank
#

One man’s trash is another man’s 3DO Interactive Multiplayer

ashen lark
#

He’s gone gexual

marble jetty
gaunt imp
#

🎵 goodbye horses 🎶

karmic basin
#

So much Gex thirst out there.

marble jetty
#

is that a kilt lol

ionic plank
#

She transitioned

weak hound
#

The gex memes overall have a pregnant sonic vibe

karmic basin
orchid lance
weak hound
#

Uh oh poor Vanfanel about to google his way to hell

orchid lance
real rapids
#

That is a rabbit hole that goes deeper than the Pacific.

signal herald
#

That is probably the wrong metaphor to use in this situation

ashen palm
dreamy geode
#

you could post rick rolls every single day in this thread, and I'd still check for a 3DO core every single day

#

keep this shit posts coming

real rapids
#

Every time I see that there's a new post in this thead I tell myself "This is it! This is the one!". And one of these days.....it will be! 🤩

weak hound
#

Alpha core is out!

#

…April fools

fossil sorrel
#

This rallying call will spur srg320 on!

ionic plank
#

Me when the first 3DO test core releases

marble jetty
#

Me when the fist 3DO test core releases:

signal mango
#

Looks like a SVORA

ionic plank
#

Now it’s just robby

umbral charm
#

I'm doing my best for slowing down the 3DO core creation. 🫡

fast pebble
#

good

tiny marsh
real rapids
#

It's the most logical conclusion.

signal mango
#

Runs on mister 2

karmic basin
#

@weak hound got the 3DO core running on his DE-25 today. So far so good.
oops. wrong channel

weak hound
#

I’m really impressed by how much he achieved working on the side, this runs really smooth

marble jetty
#

Please keep talk of the private test to a minimum, we don’t want people thinking it’s available yet

signal herald
ashen palm
marble jetty
#

Gexxxxxxxxx

restive oasis
#

the gex core soon?!?!

karmic basin
visual sonnet
#

Is this real or another joke? If there's a private test core that is awesome.

real rapids
#

It is very much a joke.

dire sinew
#

Is it?

signal herald
#

You can tell who has the build and who doesn’t 🤡

dire sinew
paper totem
#

Please throw Super Wing Commander and Wing Commander 3 at the test, I'm super curious to know how those two run.

tribal sandal
#

I just tested the core and currently can’t get any 3DO roms to work, but strangely my saturn roms work on it just fine blobshrug

dire sinew
#

You need to rebuild it and check the "3DO" box instead of the "Good Systems" one

tribal sandal
karmic basin
dire sinew
marble jetty
#

Y’all fill out the testing sheet? srg asked us to note file type, compression, and if we had any of the following options turned on:

  • cdseek speed
  • arm60 dsp bypass
  • 2, 4, or 8mb DRAM
  • Opera conversion
weak hound
#

I’m really getting into Killing Time on the test. This game is a core seller for sure

karmic basin
marble jetty
covert wagon
#

(Nerd alert)

signal mango
#

I am having fun playing Bonk

marble jetty
turbid shuttle
#

Hi it's my first message here

#

Anyways

#

Just came here to say that Opera is the OS

marble jetty
#

Ohhh that makes sense, probably why there’s a debug flag for converting it

turbid shuttle
#

It would have sense if was a hle emulator

#

better luck next time

marble jetty
#

I don’t write the core I don’t know lol blobshrug

dire sinew
#

Anyone else seeing crashes during the strip club scene in Blonde Justice?

#

Trying to figure out if it's my dump or a core bug

marble jetty
#

I’ll have to check

surreal adder
#

Piss

lapis minnowBOT
#

‎ 🎩

🧿👄🧿 pissfingers
‎ 🫴

surreal adder
paper totem
#

Opera is the Filesystem as well, Linux had a kernel module for mounting/reading OperaFS on 3DO disks

#

Wayback machine has the link to the website, and it still has the source code

orchid lance
#

Wow, Crash'n Burn is definitely crashing and burning way less with the new build! Fantastic game. On par with Daytona USA on the Saturn.

fossil sorrel
#

Anyone else testing CPU Bach? I'm having trouble sniping Bach's wig off.

covert wagon
#

Haha

covert wagon
# ionic plank This but unironically

Its genuinely a great game. Its just hindered by its frame rate. If it was even like 20fps locked I think way more people would realize how how innovative and ahead of its time it was

#

fully open world, narrative driven FPS game with in-universe story telling with a cohesive story line and actually decent acting. Its like Bioshock long before Bioshock ever existed

#

plus its world building and art deco art style? also very Bioshock'y

#

its a bummer the PS1 beta that DOES run at a good frame rate is too early to be stable and crashes / bugs too much to be an enjoyable experience

ionic plank
#

I bought a real copy because of your video(s) on it 😂

covert wagon
#

damn straight you did!

#

now go buy the remaster too! Go find me in the game haha

#

sure @marble jetty got a credit on Doom but who cares about that garbage game. I got a credit on Killing Time! I win 🤣

ionic plank
#

I have that too! Just need to sit down and actually finish it. I was a little disappointed that it didn’t have the 3DO map layout, even though the PC version’s is a little more realistic

marble jetty
#

I’m excited to play Killing Time on the 3DO core

#

I have the PS1 prototype which seems to run well

real rapids
#

It runs well until it doesn't! NotLikeThis

covert wagon
#

I played through it on real hardware and that was messy

ashen lark
surreal adder
weak hound
ashen lark
white cypress
karmic basin
#

New test is in the channels
Sorry! Did it again. The channel names are too close.

ionic plank
#

Mhmm on “accident”, sure 😏

dire sinew
#

Yeah, sorry. I keep asking sorg32 to rename the channel

signal herald
#

!! Now you are letting people know he is secretly in the discord.

real rapids
#

Robby was sorg all along.

signal mango
#

Sorge32 is Robby spelled backwards ?!?!

unkempt ferry
signal mango
#

It was right in front of us all along!!

compact yacht
#

Hi all,what files will be supported?,bin cue and chd?

#

allready gona copy games to my sdcard

weak hound
#

punch cards, better get punching

visual sonnet
compact yacht
#

ok,thx,copied all on the sdcard,if not work i change to bin cue.

real rapids
#

I always start with bin/cue early in a core's development, and then usually switch over to chd once things are confirmed to be stable enough in that format.

#

But yeah, it would be surprising if it doesn't support CHD in the end.

marble jetty
#

I converted it all to CHD and put it in my card already! elmorise

real rapids
#

Robby putting the CHDs on his card.

weak hound
#

I deleted the 3DO games from my card so I don’t accidentally play 3DO someday

cobalt zephyr
#

But in a good way!

ionic plank
vapid swallow
#

Prepping myself for hours of disappointment, err fun when the core drops.

tribal sandal
visual sonnet
#

Captain Quazar is awesome

real rapids
#

Less than a month until my prediction! elmorise #1329170138234097745 message

ashen lark
golden schooner
#

Maybe srg got so annoyed with all the Saturn testing he’s just gonna drop a complete and finished 3do core

#

“It’s done, go away”

karmic basin
#

"But this game runs horribly and has graphical glitches"
WELCOME TO THE 3DO!

ionic plank
#

It’s PART of the EXPERIENCE

visual sonnet
#

Yeah not familar with any 3DO games that have crazy issues

real rapids
#

Yeah, low frame rates is pretty much the only thing I can think of. But that's not what I would call graphical glitches. It was early 3D, so it was expected at the time.

hardy sapphire
#

I think a lot of retro games would be improved with a higher frame rate. Or am I just a spoiled brat?

#

With all these newfangled games that play on my 4080 Super

sharp pendant
#

Maybe as we get older and slower we will see the lower frame rate as a blessing rather than a curse, as we shuffle and stutter around the Facility, playing four player GoldenEye death matches in the old folks home.

karmic basin
#

Relax. We're all R•E•A•L friends here.

signal mango
#

Friendship is the other 3DO experience

dire sinew
weak hound
#

1&2 are redundant

signal mango
#
  1. Is Money
restive oasis
#

do you like friendship!?!? pornography!?!? then buy a 3DO!!!

dire sinew
#

i hate that gif. the poor sega cd :/

karmic basin
#

3DO Gooner Club®

sharp pendant
#

Friendship you say? If srg320 doesn't implement two player support... Will anyone notice?

karmic basin
#

Fun fact: the only way to take apart a 3DO is to smash it open. Weird they built them that way.

ionic plank
#

Everyone tried to tell Trip it was a bad idea but he mandated that in the hardware licensing contract

signal herald
karmic basin
#

In actual 3DO related news... during the Halloween Nightdive Studios livestream it was announced the 3DO levels are coming to Killing Time Resurrected. No release date yet for them, but exciting that it will now be the truly definitive package.

ionic plank
#

Yoooooo that’s awesome

#

One thing I missed from the PC maps is how in the 3DO version every area had a fun name on the map

karmic basin
real rapids
#

3D oh snap! 🫰

marble jetty
#

Mulling over picking it up during the Switch sale

karmic basin
real rapids
covert wagon
cobalt zephyr
#

Hey guys I'm having trouble getting player 2 to work in the core any ideas?

dire sinew
#

Sorg32 did something weird in the last build. Controller 2 = Controller 3 and Controller 3 = Controller 5. Bit got flipped somewhere

cobalt zephyr
#

Makes sense

dire sinew
#

oh shit wrong chat

signal mango
#

It's because you need controller 5 for a few games

covert wagon
#

Sadly if people haven’t heard Burger Becky passed way from cancer today. She was always great to chat 3DO with and even helped with a few projects over on the 3DO server. Such a bummer

dire sinew
#

God that was so quick

real rapids
#

Heard about it earlier on bluesky. Tragic. Rest in peace. 😭

digital zodiac
dire sinew
#

literal weeks from diagnosis to the end. fuck cancer

covert wagon
dense remnant
#

As painful as it was for her, at least she remained in fairly good spirits even up to the very end.

tidal dirge
#

This is so tragic, cancer took away so many people who would be doing such great things if they were still with us.

digital bane
vapid swallow
#

I lost my mom to cancer around christmas many years ago, feel for her family.

orchid nexus
#

El cancer por desgracia es una enfermedad que todos ya conocemos. A mi se me ha llevado a dos hermanos 😭

orchid lance
modern gate
#

also hello 3DO thread. I used to come in here a lot and share 3DO related ads from game magazines. Then I kinda lost interest in the 3DO.

real rapids
#

I came in here with loads of interest, and my interest has only grown since! elmorise

visual sonnet
#

I've been a diehard 3DO fan since 1994

dire sinew
#

you guys don't need to fight. there is plenty of core for both of you

real rapids
#

Thems fight'n words.

real rapids
#

Why does the NES thread have more 3DO discussion than the 3DO thread!? NotLikeThis

dire sinew
#

because people in here know the truth

real rapids
#

That 3DO is the bees knees!

midnight estuary
#

Or the bees NES?

dire sinew
#

Three Bees? OH

warm kiln
#

BEE-D-O

marble jetty
#

You think 3DO will go through a redemption arc when everyone plays the MiSTer core?

turbid shuttle
#

why not? Already there is more people playing cdi core than ever was users with ntsc units

signal mango
#

Are they enjoying the cd-i core or just killing curiosity?

warm kiln
#

Honestly, I don’t think the 3DO is a bad piece of hardware at all. It had a pretty decent library, and was quite capable for ‘93.

#

The tech just improved too quickly, and by the next year, competitors just undercut them by subsidizing their hardware for a licensing fee on game sales, letting them deliver highly 3D-optimized hardware at a cheaper price.

#

In 2025, the 3DO has some solid exclusives & ports worth revisiting, including Lucienne’s Quest, D, The Need for Speed, Road Rash, Gex, Wolfenstein 3D, Twisted, Zhadnost, Neurodancer, Space Hulk, Crash‘n’Burn, Casper, and more.

#

There are definitely a number of titles worth playing on it, and it should at least be viewed for what it is - a high-end gaming system from the early ‘90s cut short by advancements in tech rather than just a historically expensive artifact.

weak hound
#

Confirmed Elphive is a 3DO bot working for big 3DO

marble jetty
grim goblet
#

I like the 3DO versions graphics more honestly, they're much more vibrant. Being in english is also a big bonus.

warm kiln
#

There’s a work-in-progress English patch for it, I believe - gets through the end of the first dungeon, but isn’t complete yet. (If anyone’s looking for it, I believe it uses the Japanese title for the game, Sword & Sorcery.)

distant grove
marble jetty
distant grove
marble jetty
#

I actually played the 3DO version on a real 3DO, AMA

distant grove
marble jetty
ashen palm
marble jetty
distant grove
#

Ok so who here wants to buy me a scissor lift

warm kiln
marble jetty
#

I was so confused by what @distant grove said lol

warm kiln
#

I don’t know either lol

#

Nano Banana is just so OP that therefore I generated him in a scissor lift

dreamy geode
#

One 3DO game by Christmas.

dire sinew
weak hound
#

Be good or you’ll get 3DO in your stocking

modern gate
#

3DO I'm seeing double here.

4 dees!

real rapids
dense remnant
hybrid lotus
# real rapids

My prediction is December 24th at 11:59pm (1 min before Xmas day) as a Xmas present for the MiSTer community 🙂

real rapids
hybrid lotus
real rapids
#

Never underestimate his love of 3DO!

#

Honey, I know we planned on opening our gifts to each other and having a romantic evening tonight, but 3DO core just dropped.

hybrid lotus
#

I mean we could just tell him it runs M2 games and he will instantly cancel the holiday with his family xD

marble jetty
#

lmao am I crazy for already having 65 3DO games on my MiSTer that have already been converted to CHD with MGL files made for each one?

dire sinew
#

Robby is a retroprepper

marble jetty
real rapids
signal herald
#

Supreme warrior just breaks almost immediately as chd

sharp pendant
#

3DO testing core?

signal herald
#

Oh no, I let it slip, Robbys gonna kill me.

marble jetty
dreamy geode
#

Bro first rule of fight club, we dont talk about fight club...

visual sonnet
#

I'll say December 25

#

no wait

#

I take that back

#

New Years Eve

#

right when the balls drops..boom. The core Drops

wary matrix
#

which file types are supported for the 3DO core?

#

is it safe to assume iso, bin/cue, gdi and zip?

grim goblet
wary matrix
#

okay thanks

#

grabbing them now

weak hound
wary matrix
#

ahh okay . i guess the only one who knows is srg320

grim goblet
#

yes

visual sonnet
#

bin/cue for sure

#

other than that, chd hopefully. 3DO images would never be in GDI format, that's a Dreamcast only thing

marble jetty
#

what’s that system that srg is working on?

#

What’s this channel

dire sinew
#

All my cds are in goddamnit

signal mango
#

What is this thread for?

real rapids
#

It's for hopes and dreams. A wonderous place where wishes are granted ||someday in the distant future when the core drops||!

signal mango
#

A core for what

real rapids
#

For granting wishes!

#

Every time you boot up a 3DO game, your wish is granted, because your every wish is to play 3DO!

signal mango
#

Gotem!

weak hound
#

Woooo

#

He will never recover from this

distant grove
#

It has been a while since I've uploaded a video. I began creating a game using the engine I developed, Matinicus. The engine was inspired by Killing Time, but it is Time to create something original. Some of these assets are placeholder for now, and some still require cleanup. This is just an early look.

#3do #homebrew #gamedev #scifihorror #h...

▶ Play video
visual sonnet
#

That's looking really good

visual sonnet
covert wagon
visual sonnet
visual sonnet
covert wagon
#

Ahh that’s why. Never did play much

visual sonnet
real rapids
visual sonnet
karmic basin
#

Hey.

Hey you.

Listen:

dire sinew
#

u up?

real rapids
#

Any time I think about 3DO, I'm very up. 😏

marble jetty
#

What’s with all this hanky panky

karmic basin
weary rain
#

I hope this core will get some kind of release in 2026

real rapids
#

2025 isn't over yet! It can still happen! Right!?

weak hound
#

I love that @marble jetty made this the face of 3DO

cobalt zephyr
#

I'll say

ashen palm
#

Heck yes I did!

marble jetty
#

That’s the only level anyone knows from the first Gex game lol

ashen palm
#

Wait there's more!?

covert wagon
#

No damn it no give me time off 🤣

covert wagon
#

No damn it no I need a break 🤣

#

Something is coming out Xmas eve though 😉

visual sonnet
#

God I fucking LOVE Space Hulk on the 3DO. Such a fantastic game and hard as nails

fossil sorrel
#

I also like Space Hulk.

dreamy geode
#

3 MORE DAYS!!!!

marble jetty
#

@dire sinew if you want to make people angry you can rename this to "Panasonic 3DO" lol

dire sinew
#

I thought about it. but we will be well ackshully-ed into the ground

#

same with the MSX thread

grim goblet
sharp pendant
#

Yeah, we went through the whole 3DO/Panasonic 3DO ordeal awhile back and I have no desire to relive that.

dire sinew
#

P3DO-gate

real rapids
#

If you're not playing on a Panasonic 3DO, are you truly living?

covert wagon
#

BlobRetroLogue

ionic plank
dreamy geode
#

2 MORE DAYS!!!

ionic plank
#

Got a new shelf for my office and now my 3DO gets to hang out front and center with my Dreamcast

umbral charm
fast pebble
#

what about 3D0?

real rapids
signal herald
#

nice sun collection, although I am surprised not to see a SS5/SS10

ionic plank
signal herald
#

yeah, I wanted to get a 10 to run nextstep, but they are just too expensive for what little use I would get. A coworker of mine offered to ship me his IPC, but I had read they had cap and battery issues and didn’t want to deal with it….kicking myself at this point

hybrid lotus
#

Potentially 1 day to go

covert wagon
#

No I’ve never heard of that

#

@distant grove this never happened did it?

dire sinew
#

just to set the expectation for folks who stumble in here: SRG is probably not dropping a beta core tomorrow. It would be rad if he did, but I don't want people to be disappointed on christmas

#

There will be plenty of opportunities to be disappointed once the core is released

distant grove
#

No console linkage software exists. Someone could create one maybe using the xport on the back of the console. But nothing official exists

covert wagon
covert wagon
dire sinew
#

I would be genuinely surprised if there is a core tomorrow

covert wagon
ionic plank
#

It’s not the proper 3DO experience if it’s running higher than 20fps

covert wagon
#

The best game ruined by its frame rate

dire sinew
#

overclocking is hard. just look at the Metal Slug Neo Geo turbo core

umbral charm
#

OK, no 3DO core tomorrow. 😏

#

AWBacon said NO, okay.

dire sinew
#

I want you all to remember who took this away from you

grim goblet
#

The North Remembers

turbid glade
#

We could have 3DO core and don't say anything to AWBacon 🤣

real rapids
#

It's still happening right!?

dire sinew
umbral charm
#

Do you still believe in Sandy Claws ? 😏

real rapids
#

I do!

spark tiger
#

We need another Festivus miracle!

vapid swallow
#

All I want for Christmas is a Sega Saturn, er 3DO core.

dire sinew
dreamy geode
#

Love the strategy…under promise, over deliver. ONE MORE DAY!!!

covert wagon
storm moth
dreamy geode
#

Merry Christmas!!!

dire sinew
real rapids
#

It's still Christmas here! I belieeeeeve!

sharp pendant
#

In the part of Ukraine that srg320 is from, I am fairly confident they celebrate Christmas on the 7th of January...

#

Just to throw that extra spanner in the works

buoyant locust
#

Oh part of Ukraine

covert wagon
visual sonnet
#

Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas!

plush cypress
#

3Dhohoho I'm sure it will appear when it's ready for the stage. Shame but aniticipation is half the fun.

dense remnant
#

Gex is fun.
Anticipation sucks.

marble jetty
#

I’M GEX’N OVER HERE!

dense remnant
#

Gexually frustrated...

visual sonnet
#

lots of Gexual dysfunction going on here i see

ashen lark
#

That’s gexual assault sir, I’m calling Trip at HR

visual sonnet
#

hahaha

dire sinew
#

The 3DO Company - 3DO

dense remnant
#

Oh boy...

#

😄

#

That seems like a fair compromise.

dire sinew
#

We had to make a decision

#

and, technically, they created it

#

and if you're going to be right, there is no better way than technically right

dense remnant
#

T3DOC3DO.rbf

dire sinew
#

nah, the core is just 3DO

dense remnant
real rapids
#

Should we change the SNES thread to "Nintendo - Super Nintendo"!? Or the NES thread to Nintendo - Nintendo Entertainment System!? This is chaos! Chaos I tells ya! elmorise

dire sinew
#

This is the most excitement the 3DO thread has seen in weeks. You're Welcome

#

(also the NES and SNES thread names are too long to add anything)

real rapids
#

I think a great April Fools joke next year should be to rename the PC Engine thread to Konami PC Engine for maximum troll factor.

dire sinew
#

no, I think for april fools I will rename the Mega Drive thread to Genesis

#

If you're going to do something

#

you do it right the first time

#

or not at all

cobalt zephyr
#

NES needs renamed to Nintendo Nintendo Entertainment System

dire sinew
#

If they were The Nintendo Company, it would be The Nintendo Company - NES. (And then Kit would strip my mod status and I would be sent to the shadow realm)

ionic plank
velvet geyser
#

Soviet Union Dendy

#

heh

#

People’s Dendy

marble jetty
digital zodiac
#

Sony Computer Entertainment America - Playstation

marble jetty
#

Or just Sony

ionic plank
#

Nintendo Nintendo Entertainment System
Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System

marble jetty
#

In internal documentation they are referred to as just “NCL”

ionic plank
# marble jetty In internal documentation they are referred to as just “NCL”

Nitrogen trichloride, also known as trichloramine, is the chemical compound with the formula NCl3. This yellow, oily, and explosive liquid is most commonly encountered as a product of chemical reactions between ammonia-derivatives and chlorine (for example, in swimming pools). Alongside monochloramine and dichloramine, trichloramine is responsib...

dense remnant
#

The Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System by Nintendo.

velvet geyser
#

nintendo of america of japan

weak hound
#

Do you guys get random pops in the audio on Gex when running the 3DO core alpha? I thought it was always the same spot in stage 1 but it seems random

dire sinew
ionic plank
#

And in the core make sure to set the model to FZ-1. FZ-10 and Goldstar aren’t done yet

dire sinew
#

No idea what he is wasting time on goldstar.

cobalt zephyr
#

Wow I'll have to try that, it was really annoying having the audio glitches

distant grove
ionic plank
#

We’re being funny

distant grove
#

Later FZ-10's anyway

distant grove
ionic plank
ionic plank
#

What’s the main difference? Consolidation?

distant grove
#

Madam and Clio into one chipset and an updated OS.

ionic plank
#

Nice!

marble jetty
marble jetty
#

you’re unfazed by my trolling!

distant grove
cobalt zephyr
covert wagon
weak hound
#

Some people say the whale shark is the animal with the thickest skin in nature but we know it’s the 3DO fan

turbid shuttle
#

Anvil has some quirks respect original set and never will have hdmi mod

signal mango
#

I'm doing my part

distant grove
# turbid shuttle Anvil has some quirks respect original set and never will have hdmi mod

It's not that it's got quirks, it's just that it's not as documented and the DAC is actually apart of the anvil itself. So there is no RGB pins to connect all the RGB shit for RGB mods, or even HDMI. The biggest thing about anvil is the OS they updated for it takes up just ever so slightly more ram than the original chipset did. So some games have memory issues. The chipset itself is fine

ivory spoke
golden schooner
#

This channel got renamed. I thought there was good news.

storm moth
#

Maybe one 3DO game by christmas

weak hound
#

“Good”

ashen palm
#

Surprise Nokia 6600 core to play Symbian/J2ME games too perhaps?

signal mango
#

That would genuinely be an interesting one

golden schooner
#

Interesting, like, why would anyone waste their time on this?

ashen palm
#

Also, this era of early java games was completely lost on me. Much like the 3DO.

restive oasis
#

hell yeah J2ME core to play all the garbage phone games i rememberd playing in 2006

ionic plank
#

hey now there were some fairly cromulent Tetris releases on those

warm kiln
#

J2ME genuinely got a lot of interesting exclusives, demakes, & ports. Just off the top of my head - BioShock, Witcher: Crimson Trail, Gangstar 1 & 2, Bounce Tales, SolaRola, Ratchet & Clank: Going Mobile/Clone Home, and Bonk’s Return are all worth looking into.

(Same with Japanese keitai feature phones using things like i-Mode & EZWeb, which got original exclusive games in the Resident Evil, Kingdom Hearts, Katamari Damacy, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, Harvest Moon, and Persona franchises, among many others.)

junior ledge
#

Cannot wait to play 3DO on the MiSTer!!!!

sharp pendant
#

I started off working on J2ME and BREW games back nearly 20 years ago. Would be fun (probably for me and noone else) to revisit some of the games I worked on. Most of them weren't exactly great at the time, and the difference between different devices was massive. In most cases it was a completely different game on the mid and high level devices to the older lower spec ones.

golden schooner
ionic plank
#

i'm glad somebody got the reference

ionic plank
#

Although I do say cromulent regularly as if it were always a word

signal mango
#

How are we going to connect our 3DO controllers to mister?

signal mango
#

What

#

😭

#

Out of stock

ionic plank
# signal mango How are we going to connect our 3DO controllers to mister?
MiSTer Addons

Introducing Reflex Adapt: a revolutionary gaming device with the power to provide ultimate control. With minimal latency, input response times are improved, empowering gamers to respond faster to unpredictable changes and take on even the most dynamic gaming challenges. Experience gaming with a responsiveness never see

#

elmorise reflex adapt wins again

signal mango
#

TY. Do we use the Genesis adapter?

signal mango
#

I thought it supported 3do and went to the sales page to try and buy one and there weren't any. That's when I posted my urgent question here.

marble jetty
#

I don't think it'll support the audio jack, that might be the only limitation.

#

Here's the pinout:

ionic plank
signal mango
#

Awesome!

marble jetty
#

@spark locust Do you remember if the 3DO controller over Reflex could potentially support the daisy chained two player?

real rapids
#

Two player? You need to think bigger! Six players or bust.

#

But anyway, it says 6P right on the webpage, but only 3P has been tested!

marble jetty
#

Hell yeah I got a thumbs up, Reflex da best!

weary rain
#

3DO controller kinda sucks

#

Use a SNES controller for something similar but good

ionic plank
#

It’s part of the experience derpsmile

#

The Panasonic ones aren’t terrible tbh

#

Now, the Logitech on I also have, that one feels dreadful

obsidian pine
#

I always heard the Logitech controller was better than the Panasonic. I haven’t managed to track one down for myself to try though.

#

I use this with an SN30 controller most of the time.

real rapids
#

For anyone not wanting to use an actual 3DO controller, the M30 would be the obvious replacement.

visual sonnet
#

I use theme m30 on my real 3do and it's fantastic

vapid swallow
#

I can confirm the 3do works with genesis adapter

#

best option is buy a cheap genesis extension cable and use that b/c you have to force the connector into the genesis one, but it will fit just very snug

#

that way you dont damage your reflex adapter

signal mango
#

Oh nice. I have an extension already.

vapid swallow
distant grove
#

Madcatz and JP2X are the best really

#

Those Logitech controllers are kinda ass

distant grove
covert wagon
signal mango
#

Will an m30 make the games good?

#

I mean better than with a 3do controller

paper totem
#

works great with the SNES fight stick

#

My JS-01 got stolen 🙁

weary rain
weary rain
visual sonnet
#

I'll never understand all the hate the original 3DO controller gets. Never had a single issue with all the ones I've used over the years

weary rain
#

IIRC it depends on the controller variant

#

Like I’ve heard the second revision of the Panasonic controller is better

visual sonnet
#

The smaller one without the headphone jack?

#

I've used it as well as the original. If I had smaller hands I'd probably love the smaller one. I actually prefer the original size 3DO controller. But hey I also loved the Duke controller on the OG Xbox 😂

distant grove
#

Which is why I'll just suggest the m30 by default from here forward unless someone is insisting for an original controller. They're expensive, wore out, and limited supply

visual sonnet
#

Age definitely doesn't do them an favors today like every other controller for sure.

distant grove
visual sonnet
#

I finally got a blue retro to work on my 3DO. The M30 is definitely very nice to use on it.

marble jetty
#

I am the biggest 3DO fan here

signal herald
ionic plank
obsidian pine
restive oasis
#

i love that one trip hawkins letter to the magazine where he complains about getting a low score when he paid so much for the ads!!!

visual sonnet
weary rain
#

What does Trip do nowadays

visual sonnet
#

gives speeches

twin oracle
# signal mango How are we going to connect our 3DO controllers to mister?

I added 3DO support to MickGyver's DaemonBite adapter code a few years ago. It never got merged but you can pull down the PR and it works... Only supports 1 pad and no audio unfortunately. You'd have to flash your own Arduino and solder up the 9 pin connector. But yeah... it works...
https://github.com/MickGyver/DaemonBite-Retro-Controllers-USB/pull/26

GitHub

3DO support - supports one controller, no headphone jack.
Based on MickGyver's SNES code.

ember seal
#

i wonder what happened to mickgyver

#

they made so many great converters for the scene

gaunt imp
#

Hey was working on some games last I knew. Thy Sword on Steam was one of them.

junior ledge
#

was this ever released in the test builds? I cannot find it anywhere 3DO_20251229.rbf

dire sinew
#

There is no publicly released 3do core. I fear you have been trolled

junior ledge
#

I figured lol!

golden schooner
#

you need The3DOCompany3DO_20251231.rbf

golden schooner
#

when was this thing announced? 2025 or 2024?

#

damn, almost a full year since announcement but 2+ years in devel

marble jetty
#

Ohhh, time to update the pin and say 3+ years

unkempt ferry
#

Rome wasn't built in a day, or two, for that matter, just gonna wait. Go off, go outside, come back in, give missus a good seeing to, look after the kids, the elderly and family. Work until you're in your 70s. Then repeat daily until it's released, 🙂

paper totem
real rapids
#

Close enough. Ship it!

vapid swallow
#

Chatgpt has let us down

#

In fact, I can't get Chatgpt to pick the 3do over a single other game console even a gameboy lol

marble jetty
#

Isn’t Jaguar more expensive than 3DO for collecting?

dreamy geode
#

What about Tiger Gamecom??? Bet it picks 3do over that

#

Apple Pippen?

distant grove
distant grove
# dreamy geode Apple Pippen?

You wouldn't believe how many YouTube videos rank the Pippin and cdi over the 3do. It's like they're all produced by the same person

golden schooner
distant grove
ionic plank
#

Like and share if you think the girl on the right is just as beautiful as the girl on the left. Bless 🙏

real rapids
#

Hawt||kins||

real rapids
#

So with a new year comes new first core build drop predictions! So I predict the first build will drop on March 31st 2026! Just close enough to April Fool's Day that everyone will question if its real! elmorise

golden schooner
#

February 29th

ionic plank
#

My vote is for April 31st

golden schooner
#

a cromulent date

hybrid lotus
#

July 21st (my birthday)

visual sonnet
#

October 3rd

dire sinew
fossil sorrel
#

January 6th elmorise

storm moth
#

May 4th

golden schooner
#

star wars day?!

#

unlikely

marble jetty
#

May the 6th be with you, always.

dire sinew
weak hound
paper totem
#

Which will come first star citizen, gta6 or 3do core?

spark tiger
#

Stuttgart 21

weak hound
#

My money is regrettably on 3DO core

karmic basin
#

Star Citizen core when?

real rapids
#

We'll be crash'n and burn'n in the 3DO core before we crash'n burn in GTA6.

paper thistle
#

the day after Half Life 3 drops (April 2nd)

real rapids
#

Thinking about 3DO again today. As 3DO fans are wont to do.

signal mango
#

We're one day closer to a 3DO core

ashen palm
lethal shard
weak hound
tribal sandal
weak hound
#

He’s the perfect mascot for 3DO fans

real rapids
#

Imagine the chaos that will ensue when the core actually does drop. This place will be popping off! elmorise

real rapids
real rapids
#

||gottem!||

marble jetty
#

lol

tribal sandal
lethal shard
fossil sorrel
#

Patience...

#

From the beginning of time and space the 3DO core has been destined to arrive no sooner or later than that one moment which has been mathematically pre ordained by the laws and nature of the cosmos itself.

warm kiln
#

I’ve been putting off buying a 3DO console, and just today broke down & bought a NTSC-J one along with a selection of Longbox games.

#

So, obviously that means the core will release tomorrow lol

unkempt ferry
#

Time to do a video of jizz hitting screen, to post here, when the core does get released.

warm kiln
#

Sesame Workshop actually co-designed a controller alongside Philips they were intended to be played with. Called the Roller Controller, it’s essentially a giant trackball:

visual sonnet
warm kiln
# visual sonnet What games did you pick up with your 3DO?

Quite a bit - there was a user selling off their big box collection, many of which were still sealed. (Those came in protective plastic shelf boxes, so I’m going to keep those ones sealed & use them with NFC tokens when we get an eventual core.)

Wound up going with:

  • Psychic Detective
  • The Need for Speed
  • Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller
  • Icebreaker
  • Digital Dreamware
  • Dragon Lore
  • Gex
  • AD&D Slayer
  • Killing Time
  • Iron Angel of the Apocalypse 1&2
  • The Horde
  • Total Eclipse
  • Putt Putt Joins The Parade
  • Putt Putt’s Fun Pack
  • Putt Putt Goes to the Moon
  • Lost Eden
  • Zhadnost: The People’s Party
visual sonnet
#

Dude you got some gems.

#

Lost Eden is fantasic, Slayer is one of my all time favorite games on the console, Iron Angel 1&2 are an acquired taste, but very interesting games. Products of their time, Killing Time is great, Gex is Fun, Dragon Lore is good, Icebreaker is a ton of fun. I got my copy signed by the devloper of it!! Need for speed is great ,and Hell is freaking awesome if you dig point n click adventures

#

I'm very excited for ya!!

#

Let me know what you think of those games!!

#

oh and the Horde is awesome, Total Eclipse is a ton of fun too

#

If you dig Zhadnost, be sure to get Twisted.

warm kiln
#

I really love Lost Eden - been a huge fan of Stephane Picq’s work going back to when I first heard his soundtrack compilation by GSTMIX, and have been collecting Cryo games for a while. Have it on the CD-i, as well (though I haven’t played through the entire thing yet, as it crashed around the 4-hour mark on my NTSC console). I want to say I’ve beaten it twice; once on a classic Mac a while back and once playing the DOS port on the Steam Deck more recently.

Slayer looks really neat, about halfway between a PC-era gridder and Ultima Underworld. Really looking forward to trying it out!

I’m honestly really excited about trying Iron Angel 1 & 2. I’m a really big fan of Synergy’s other work, especially Gadget, Alice, & Yellow Brick Road - they have a definite unnerving style that I’ve never quite seen in another publisher, and what I’ve seen of Iron Angel has that same vibe throughout a lot of it. (It looks like it runs a bit slow, though - I’d be really curious if an overclock for the hardware on the MiSTer core could be a possibility, given a number of games could likely benefit from it.)

#

I’ve played a lot of Killing Time’s recent remaster on Steam, though I’ve heard the 3DO version has different maps in most areas. Looking forward to seeing the difference, as I’ve really been enjoying the new version quite a bit.

warm kiln
#

I don’t really know what there is to say about Gex that hasn’t been said already - it really gexs the gex’s gex.

#

I hadn’t played any of Dragon Lore or Icebreaker before trying out their PC ports on ao486, but I’ve enjoyed what I’ve played of both - the first is Cryo trying their hand at classic-style medieval fantasy, and the second is a really unique action-puzzle game. (I haven’t tried the sequel, but I’ve heard there was also a prototype of that on 3DO - believe the developer of the game released it to Hidden Palace a few years back, so it’s definitely something I’m going to test.)

warm kiln
#

I’ve played through Take Two’s other FMV adventures, Black Dahlia & Ripper, and really enjoyed both - been meaning to play Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller for a while, as it was apparently made by the same team as Bloodnet (which I also found pretty fun when I played through the GOG version, as it’s a pretty unique mix of point & click and role-playing game mechanics in a fun twist on your classic ‘90s cyberpunk world. I’d recommend going with the DOS floppy or Amiga versions of Bloodnet, though, as the CD version both cuts content & has voice acting so bad that it’s actually pretty distracting).

#

I’ve actually played quite a bit of the 3DO version of Need for Speed before picking it up myself. It’s really interesting how different that version is from later releases of the game on Saturn/PS1; the 3DO focuses a lot more on the technical details about the cars, and to me, seems to play a lot differently.

real rapids
ionic plank
real rapids
#

I wish Killing Time reached 20fps.

ionic plank
#

so that nothing else has to render

real rapids
#

It is funny though that depending on the game, and how much you love it, frame rate starts to matter less and less. Like Wave Race 64 only runs at 20fps, and yet it somehow feels completely fine to me.

ionic plank
#

The jank is part of the charm though tbh

#

I haven’t played all of the remaster but I kinda preferred the 3DO maps

weak hound
#

No no, it needs turbo and graphics settings to completely change how it looks and runs because no one wants to actually play N64 3DO

warm kiln
#

I do think the 3DO core would really benefit a lot from turbo modes.

I think a decent chunk of software was designed with the idea that later generations of the 3DO hardware (like the unreleased M2) would be able to play the same games faster, so many games really push the hardware to its maximum and have poor frame rates because of it. Turbo, in many cases, would likely bring the game closer to how the developer intended the game to be played long-term.

ionic plank
#

I only want turbo mode if it’s called “Trip Hawkins Mode” and it permanently puts his face in the corner of the screen

distant grove
sharp pendant
warm kiln
#

That I did! Probably going to use it directly with a RT4K on my main TV, so it made sense to me to search one of the 240p models out.

sharp pendant
#

Good shout, well worth paying the extra if you are going after a real unit

#

Are you going to add an ODE?

warm kiln
#

I think so, if the external Xport ones get back in stock at Stone Age Gamer. I’d rather go with that over the internal, so the drive is still fully operational.

visual sonnet
#

I've over clocked 3DO on emulation, it helps some games like iron angel, and totally breaks others. But always worth a try.

umbral charm
#

Not possible by design on the system.

#

Everything is tied in, if you overclock the CPU, you break the rest of the system and the timings.

#

That's also why no overlock of the real console is possible.

#

Some tried and failed, and left some important research notes about that.

umbral charm
#

||I worked with the best Saturn developers and emudevs on the system since at least 25 years.
We all agree about the impossibility to overclock the system.
Now someone on the Internet tells me it should be possible.
So go on, do it & prove me wrong, I'm waiting.||

EDIT : We were talking about Saturn & OC. The poster removed parts of the discussion.

real rapids
#

It works because dis switch does dat, and dat switch does dis, and wham bam thank you ma'am it works! derpsmile

||...I'm kidding of course. ||

grim goblet
#

It REALLY sounds like chatgpt had a pass at that answer.
Edit: Aaaaaand it's been deleted.

umbral charm
#

For a reminder.

#

#1046941029296779344 message

umbral charm
#

So sorry, I thought I was reading the Saturn thread!

#

Oopsie...

#

And the original poster removed parts of the discussion too.

#

They were talking about Saturn overlocking on the FPGA core in the middle of the 3DO thread, the context was removed.

distant grove
#

Oh that makes sense!

umbral charm
#

Yes, the 3DO can be overlocked like you said and shown.

distant grove
#

The 3do hdmi mod can overclock the hardware. For 3do you can't just overclock the CPU and not the other 2 chips. You have to overclock the singular main crystal

marble jetty
#

Who would win

dire sinew
#

Ever seen time cop?

marble jetty
dire sinew
#

that's the one. always bet on black

ionic plank
#

It’d be like how matter and antimatter annihilate

signal mango
distant grove
gaunt imp
#

Whoa. It’s like when matter meets antimatter then?

covert wagon
#

Found in pile of regular magazines while packing

marble jetty
covert wagon
marble jetty
#

unc slop confirmed

real rapids
#

Slop's uncle?

covert wagon
#

Robby’s been huffing propane and drinking antifreeze again

real rapids
#

It's the most logical conclusion.

marble jetty
covert wagon
#

"No doctor I Trip'd and fell on it...Trip Hawkins! HAR HAR"

real rapids
marble jetty
#

I don’t get it

weary rain
#

man i fooled myself into thinking you didn’t get it in the first place lol

marble jetty
#

DAMNIT linknoo

signal mango
paper totem
simple otter
#

At this point, I wonder if the 3D0 core will surprise us at the Royal Rumble? lol

visual sonnet
#

It's the 30th entrant

silent oak
#

Okay, what's gonna be first - this core, or NightDive's early 2026 update to Killing Time Remastered that adds a faithful remake of the original 3DO game

tribal sandal
warm kiln
#

My Japanese FZ-1 arrived today:

ionic plank
#

It really is a pretty piece of hardware

real rapids
#

Always been one of my favorite console designs. Feels very sturdy too.

marble jetty
#

I wanna see if the little round feet match

real rapids
ionic plank
#

The Nintendo 3DO…a terrifying thought indeed

marble jetty
#

One of them had the Need for Speed and the other had the Need for Games, it works

signal herald
signal mango
#

This longer version of the gif is the best one

visual sonnet
#

The FZ-1 is one of the sexiest looking consoles ever in my opinion. It just screams 90's Hi-Fi

marble jetty
#

It screams “I’m a greek column” to me

#

You see it tho, right

#

The little feet

#

They look like Doric columns

next magnet
#

Isn't it more likely the Greeks took inspiration from the 3DO?

cunning drift
#

3do is 976 in decimal. The ancient Greeks preceded the year 976. So no.

fossil sorrel
#

"What we do in life... echos in eternity." - Trip Hawkins (at the 3DO launch party)

mossy kernel
tribal sandal
#

"I'm thankful...because now...I know what I must do. I will shred this universe down to its last atom and then, with the 3DO’s you've collected for me, create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe."
Trip Hawkins

golden schooner
#

I hereby declare the 3DO dead.

umbral charm
#

No.

golden schooner
#

sorry, I don't make the rules I just declare them.

warm kiln
#

Point of advice if you’re shopping for a 3DO in 2025, by the way - if you want a model that directly supports 240p output, don’t specifically search for the Mode Select switch. Look for a NTSC-J model first and check the images for the switch.

By doing that, you’ll pay about the same price as a U.S. model & get a 3DO with proper 240p modless output. That’s what I did.

sharp pendant
#

Yeah, that is exactly what I did a few years back, got one from Japan for the same price as buying a non 240p one on eBay in the UK

#

I wonder how the core will wind up supporting both modes, maybe a switch in the menu

#

There are some games you would want to play in 480i over 240p so both modes would be the way to go

ionic plank
#

As if any 3DO games have a high enough frame rate for it to make a difference! smugnep

sharp pendant
#

A number of games, especially FMV games, don't scale down to 240p well and can have graphical and playback issues

#

Something fun we will need to document during testing I suspect

warm kiln
#

I’ve been curious about that with the 480i mode for a while. Is there a documented list yet of games with known issues?

sharp pendant
#

@covert wagon any idea if one exists? Pretty sure Killing Time is one that doesn't look as good in 240p

covert wagon
sharp pendant
#

No, what we are wondering is if a list of what games have issues in 240p mode, or look better in 480i mode

covert wagon
#

From memory a few games will have issues

#

It’ll be fun to see how srg implements that if he does

warm kiln
#

I’ve heard setting this switch to Mode B also creates a performance boost in a number of titles.

However, the only instance I’ve confirmed where this Mode switch causes an issue is in Out of this World, which was mentioned in My Life in Gaming’s video as making the game run too fast.

sharp pendant
#

Hopefully srg320 has the model with the 240p switch

#

Something maybe @umbral charm can confirm

covert wagon
sharp pendant
#

It would be great if there was a list already out there, this will likely cause a myriad of issues in testing

fossil sorrel
#

As long as CPU Bach works

#

Right guys

dire sinew
#

at this point I think SRG is just going to drop a fully finished core

sharp pendant
#

Yeah, It already looked really far along months ago

fossil sorrel
#

Once the core is done I'll use CPU Bach to compose an album of original music in the classical genre...

#

Thus completing the first step of my plot...

#

TO TRY AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD!

umbral charm
distant grove
sharp pendant
# umbral charm No idea at all, sorry.

Might be worth asking, at least make him aware of it as there is always the possibility he doesn't know about. Nobody knew 240p switch models even existed until a few years ago

distant grove
sharp pendant
#

Yeah nobody in the west knew what the switch did

#

It was bizarre that it was on the news sites and weekly games news videos, as something that has just been discovered

#

Not that many years ago

distant grove
#

Issues will vary from region to region I'm sure

#

The only game I found to benefit from the 240p double speed issue is total eclipse.

sharp pendant
#

We may wind up needing an XML file to set resolution

#

Here is an interesting nugget:

Technical Information:
The 3DO’s frame buffer is 320×240, meaning the actual resolution of the games is 240p. Then, 480i interpolation is activated inside the VP536 display generator as the signal is passed through it.

distant grove
#

Emulator doesn't run 240

#

Go give it a shot. Dragons lair runs double speed at 240

warm kiln
#

From what I gather, the post-interpolated graphics are 480p, right? It’s the final step of the graphics process to read individual fields of that to output 480i.

What I don’t really understand is the color space conversion. Why is that done?

distant grove
#

VDLP: Video Display Line Processor
It's in CLIO not VP or BT

#

Also RetroRGB is not the best place for any information on 3DO. Neither is the MVG video on it lol

sharp pendant
#

It is misleading to say "the 480i mode". All 3DO models only output 480i unless modified to output 240p, except one model released only in Japan that has the switch to output 240p.

distant grove
#

It also isn't true 240p. The renderer simply doesn't draw the second field. The speed up in some games comes from the first field being fed twice

#

Also back to this, it does approximate and render in the VDLP

#

The HDMI mod does that essentially. I don't think it has a speed up issue

real rapids
#

It warms my heart to see so much 3DO discussion again. 🥹

fossil sorrel
weak hound
#

The cockles of his groin

#

+19XP

golden schooner
#

need a private XP bot to tell me how I am doing

marble jetty
lapis minnowBOT
golden schooner
#

no I know, I need my own that updates me after every post how many XP I was granted

#

the system is rigged

marble jetty
#

I have no idea how this thing works

lapis minnowBOT
#

Could not change to that background.

#

Successfully updated XP for @marble jetty

marble jetty
#

LMAO

#

time to grind

#

ok brb

ionic plank
#

ROBBY IS CHEATING STOP THE COUNT

weak hound
#

Robby is a hung chad

#

That gross joke brought to you by the 2000 presidential election

#

+20XP

real rapids
golden schooner
#

I LOVE THE 3DO

#

+22XP

marble jetty
#

I actually messed up and reset myself back by 3 levels lol

signal herald
#

Oh, you were serious about just spamming to get different colors. I thought for sure I turned purple because I submitted some PRs to main that got accepted

#

Granted, Zakk commit shamed me almost immediately 🤡

signal mango
#

What are the best 3DO games? And don't say Bubsy 3D because that port isn't out yet

silent oak
#

On top of my head

#

Adding Wolfenstein 3D, Another World Out of this World (with unique drawn backgrounds), Wing Commander 3, Super Wing Commander, Space Hulk, Return Fire, Starblade, and Star Control II to that

#

Lucienne's Quest? Immercenary, maybe?

#

The rest of what I could mention is either funny crap like Way of the Warrior and PO'ed or ports of DOS games

#

I am just going by the box

#

If I follow my convention of calling something a Sega Mega Genesis Drive then this would be Another Out of this Outer World

real rapids
#

Everyone always fails to mention the EA Sports games! No joke, they are some of the best games on the console.

ionic plank
#

Sports cringe

real rapids
#

Ur a ||good|| sport!

silent oak
#

It's technically the Electronic Arts console

#

In a roundabout way

real rapids
#

EA was tripping over themselves to support it.

#

They were hawking their goods on the console all the time.

silent oak
#

Still find this super fascinating

#

Wait, wait, how does Creative 3DO Blaster handle 480i?

silent oak
#

I see, the software has both flickery output mode and motion adaptive deinterlacing options

#

As well as outputting one of the two fields

distant grove
#

I could always plug mine to and fuck with it some. I haven't messed with the settings that much honestly

silent oak
#

If I somehow still had a PC with an ISA and Win3.1 one of the deal breakers would probably be 8bit color space

#

Still pretty cool

distant grove
#

PC Specs:

IBM Personal Computer 340
Intel Pentium 66MHZ
Cirrus Logic CL-GD5434
Creative branded CR-563-B
Unbranded Sound Card
Resolution – 640×480
CF to IDE adapter
Floppy Drive Emulator

#

My setup

covert wagon
covert wagon
marble jetty
ionic plank
marble jetty
warm kiln
#

Does the 3DO Blaster actually convert the video back to 480i before outputting it to a PC? Or, does it just use the 480p internal resolution of the hardware?

#

In either case, just from the video, it looks like it has quite a bit better video quality than real hardware.

silent oak
#

It outputs same 480i signal from standalone 3DOs that is fed into the builtin capture card

silent oak
#

I am stupidly tempted to get a local FZ-1 NTSC-J model for 300$

#

Slap an ODE and it's gusto

marble jetty
silent oak
#

.. the hell did I just Google when I typed "Cirrus GPU"?

distant grove
fossil sorrel
true shore
#

Does anyone know how to rip audio tracks from 3DO discs? I'm fairly certain it's some type of PCM audio track. I saw some reference to an unnamed program on reddit with a link to a dead forum.

true shore
#

Addendum; I did get the disc extracted with 3DT but I guess all the audio is locked up in some proprietary bin file. Not likely to have any existing tools to sort it I suppose.

real rapids
#

3-DOH!

shadow silo
#

might be compressed or otherwise obfuscated, but worth a shot

true shore
#

I did that with a few different formats as well as ffmpeg with various forced input formats and nothing. I did kind of figure it out with Paul Jensens SCAT tool. I'm messing with Sewer Shark. You can extract SGA files from the 3DO bin but it appears all the pcm is baked into the video files with sound effects

#

Real bummer. They just used audio loops timed to clip length so it all just kind of works in a weird way

distant grove
distant grove
true shore
#

I didn't know there was zero PCM on 3do. I did extract and convert a few sdx2 dpcm soundtracks like ssf2t to 16/441 wave just for a sanity check

sharp pendant
#

Does it not do red book? That is odd since it obviously plays CDs so the system supports it. Weird they wouldn't use it for games.