Panasonic 3DO

[distant grove]

The 3do art is beautiful for out of this world.

[real rapids]

I actually like the 3DO version myself! I owned it back in the day, and loved the look of it.

[distant grove]

I've read the original programmer/creator whatever hated the 3do art style lmao

Should have created a CDi version, but with hyper realistic digitized graphics

[weak hound]

The is the perfect analogy for the 3DO or CDi

It probably has value for comedic value or cultural value or at minimum for some subset of people even if it’s objectively a failure

And, well, fugly

[distant grove]

CDi out of this world

[distant grove]

3do was so horrible that Microsoft hired the engineers to work on one of the most successful systems in gaming history

[weak hound]

I mean yeah still horrible. The switch existing doesn’t make the virtual boy good

Horrible is a strong word it was a failure

[distant grove]

Vb was good though

If the vb makes someone dizzy, they got weak genes

[karmic basin]

Shame that Nintendo’s eugenics program never took off, I guess.

[distant grove]

Every vb user that reported headaches and dizziness should have been deported to Canada

[real rapids]

I played my Virtual Boy for hours on end without ever having issues.

Everything looked green whenever I'd take my face out of the VB!

[weak hound]

The Northern Solution

[weak hound]

That doesn’t sound disturbing at all

[obsidian pine]

Same. I know I’ve been playing too long when I blink and everything goes black and white for a few seconds. Nothing ever hurts though so I’m sure it’s fine.

[karmic basin]

https://tenor.com/view/billie-eilish-crying-cry-blood-bloody-gif-15256525

👆 The end of the average Virtual Boy gaming session

[obsidian pine]

Worth it for Wario Land

[rigid shoal]

I don’t have problems with eye strain, it’s the neck strain that get me

[obsidian pine]

Same. I am 43 now. I actually have to pay attention when it tells me to take breaks

[rigid shoal]

I cheat nowadays.. leave the VB on display and use the Quest 3 for VB 😂

[obsidian pine]

I use red viper when I don’t want to get out of bed but there’s something about the VB hardware that keeps me coming back to it.

Most of the systems in the 90s flopped. They pretty much all have games I want to play though, even the cdi.

I think the world would be a better place if Twisted were getting sequels made instead of Mario Party.

[marble jetty]

Omg really?

that’s amazing

[signal herald]

Brian?

[cobalt zephyr]

So not sure if this has been asked but is the new 3DO port of MKII better than the 32X hack?

[real rapids]

It's certainly much closer to arcade visually. Can't speak for how it plays though. It does include some really cool 3DO themed secrets like R•E•A•Lities.

[weak hound]

Probably wrong speed because ntsc

[cobalt zephyr]

what makes it closer visually?

[real rapids]

32x version doesn't have enough colors to replicate the arcade. Plus smaller sprite sizes for the characters. Stuff like that.

[cobalt zephyr]

oh really I would have thought it had plenty of colors

thanks for the response

[real rapids]

The characters in the 3DO are way larger for example.

[cobalt zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-brows-eyebrow-raise-smile-smirk-gif-16335782

[real rapids]

Yeah, 32X is basically just a Genesis plus an extra layer that the 32X itself would render. So a little more capable colorwise compared to a vanilla Sega Genesis, but not by much.

[cobalt zephyr]

aww

[real rapids]

SNES still produces more on-screen colors than a 32X for example.

[cobalt zephyr]

damn I always assumed the reverse

[real rapids]

32X is an odd beast for sure. Like you could disconnect the video feed from the 32X and actually see the layer that the Genesis is producing still on screen.

[visual sonnet]

Damn I always thought 32X had a palette of 32,768 with 256 max colors on screen compared to the Genesis palette of 512 with max of 64 on screen

[covert wagon]

Def better but don’t say that on YT or else people get mad haha

[cobalt zephyr]

Haha

Just in time for the MK Collection too

[covert wagon]

Decades later and still if you say something positive about 3DO people literally get angry 🤣

[visual sonnet]

Visually it's fantastic

Sounds wise it's fantastic

If he can get the gameplay where it needs to be it will be the best home console port

[cobalt zephyr]

What's wrong with the gameplay

[silent oak]

I like 3DO artwork but it doesn't mesh well with vectors

It gets pretty bad when there's painted water surface later on

The later bitmap pixely backgrounds of Anniversary Editions are way more in tune with vectors

You're basically seeing them in the Jaguar version

-# I am just miffed nobody dumped the Jag version

-# don't tell me to buy it, it's one hell of a collector piece at collector prices

[karmic basin]

Buy it.

[short vale]

This makes sense because the 3DO is the best system ever in human history. Or so I hear.

I’ll probably buy a 3DO actually

A real one. I’ve been scanning eBay everyday since I have a particular model I’m looking for

But it has to be in nice shape.

Any 3DO owners here? Any issues with your hardware yet?

I always wanted a Saturn, 3DO and a few other consoles when I was a kid

Now I should just do it.

Complete the collection.

[paper totem]

I have a 3DO, they run well FZ-1 is a very solid unit

[karmic basin]

Only one I’d avoid is the Goldstar.

Panasonic units are great

[visual sonnet]

I've owned the FZ-1 and FZ-10. Never had an issue with either. Got them both recapped recently as well

I've heard Goldstars can be troublesome

I've always wanted the Japanese Sanyo model. Thing looks so damn sexy

I love the look of the FZ-1 too. Just looks like a nice high end piece of 90e high fi gear

[short vale]

The FZ-1 does look really good

Reminds me of my CDJs

I think I'll order one from Japan (on Ebay) and get one with that switch at the back.

This apparently forces it into 240p rather than displaying 480i

[dense remnant]

Yep

[obsidian pine]

Yeah, as a bonus some games run super fast in 240p

[short vale]

Awesome

[obsidian pine]

So if you are skilled enough you could beat Dragons Lair in like ten minutes

[short vale]

It was Video Game Esoterica's Mortal Kombat video that made me think "actually I really have always wanted one of these" haha

And yeah, 3DO just would be a fun one to have on display in the gaming room

Got a CRT too so... will be fun times.

[obsidian pine]

I got mine at the start of the year and made a joke that now we would finally get a mister core

And here we are lol

[short vale]

Hah yeah. I am definitely excited for the core as well.

I actually sold a lot of my video game stuff when I got the MiSTer but kept the systems I really liked.

I sold my "backup" systems. ie I once had two Sega Saturns, both modded and recapped by me, and sold one.

[obsidian pine]

I boxed up most of mine but kept them

[short vale]

But I actually regret selling that one since it was the Black North American version and damn it looked sleek and cool.

I now have a Japanese white one, which I liked better at the time. Was my second Saturn. So I'll also "rebuy" the black Saturn cuz I miss it.

[obsidian pine]

I have six or seven I use the most hooked up to the RT4k still with the mister

[short vale]

Yeah, I actually sold my Retro Tink. It was not the 4k version, it was the regular one... but I'm thinking of getting the 4k for fun.

I kinda sold it with the intention of "one day" getting the 4k

[obsidian pine]

I have a V Saturn but I have to regularly talk myself out of getting a hi Saturn when I see them on eBay for a decent price

[short vale]

As much as I love the MiSTer I really do love the original consoles sometimes.

[obsidian pine]

I don’t miss fiddling with them

Like is my NES going out or do I just have to clean the pins again?

Or my copy of Chrono trigger won’t save unless I wedge a piece of cardboard behind it to keep it in tight

I had to get a snax though because I need the OG controllers or it just doesn’t feel right

[short vale]

haha right, i haven't tried a snax yet but have thought of checking it out

so far i've been happy with the 8bitdo controllers

i use them both wirelessly and wired.

i figured whenever the 3DO core is out I'd just use the M30 or the neo geo controller I already have

[obsidian pine]

Yeah those are great I use the m30 and sn30 with my pocket dock

[short vale]

I already downloaded like 60ish games for the Saturn hehe

Oops, I mean\

For the 3DO

And I don't even have a 3DO yet...

But I am picky!

Gotta get a nice one 😄

I noticed 3DO has S-Video. That'll be nice. But my Gamecube already uses S-Video... which means... I may just need a new switch!

Will have to look for a good passive S-Video switch.

And you know what? S-Video looks GREAT better than I remember.

[obsidian pine]

Yeah, I have mine using the enhanced S Video on the RT4K and I am pleased. Looks way better than I remember S Video looking in the 90s lol

[short vale]

Also, when I grew up, we had a Sony Trinitron. Everything looked crystal clear and super nice.

XBR model. Great TV. But no RGB of course or even Component. Best we had was S-Video.

But I tell ya, I think the JVC D-Series rivals or even beats that old TV of my youth.

The JVC has this fun look to it. It's not as surgical as the Trinitron, but beautiful colors.

[dense remnant]

I absolutely loved both of my 27" Trinitrons throughout the '90s and early '00s. Glorious picture.
S-Video on those is what I remember most fondly with the SNES, 3DO, PlayStation, and N64.

[short vale]

Nice.

Hey look what I found. Brand new in box, under $1000

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/316420845223

It is not the model I prefer though.

But still pretty cool.

Looks so immaculate.

[visual sonnet]

I have one n love it. There's only like 3 games you can't play with it switched to 240p.

They run insanely fast. Two of em are Wolfenstein 3D and Escape From Monster Manor

[short vale]

Sounds good. I will keep you all appraised of my 3DO adventure I am about to go on. Seems like fun, and I look forward to trying out Mortal Kombat 2 which Video Game Esoterica showed off and which I must say looks GREAT.

[visual sonnet]

I own almost the entire USA 3DO library and have been a hardcore 3DO owner since 1994 so any questions you have I can likely answer

[short vale]

Sounds good! I think the first question I'd ask is simply... which should be the very first game I load up? I was thinking maybe Road Rash, but if you think something else would wow me, do recommend!

[visual sonnet]

If I wanted to show off the 3DO to someone who never played it before, Road Rash is a great choice. FIFA International Soccer as well. It's absolutely gorgeous when you compare it to anything that was out on consoles at that time, plus it plays great too. So I'd boot that 2nd, then try The Need For Speed

There's so many unique gems on this console man. You'll be surprised just how damn good the console is

Like you know how you see a game and go. "Damn this is truly next gen..." That was FIFA on the 3DO

[short vale]

I remember seeing Fifa way back in the day and wanting to play. OK, so Road Rash, Fifa, and Need for Speed. Sounds like a great Sunday.

[visual sonnet]

That'll be a great Sunday for you man. When you're ready to really sink your teeth into the gems of the 3DO let me know! I'll let you know what you need to try out!

[short vale]

Always fun to add a new console to the collection and explore it.

[visual sonnet]

I love helping people discover the gems on this great console

There's nothing more enjoyable than discovering new retro games to play especially on a new platform

[short vale]

It will bring me back to 2013 when I was just trying a ton of consoles for the "first" time (I put it in quotes since I did try the consoles at friends houses waaaaay back in the day) but owning a console yourself and getting to know it well is really special.

[short vale]

One of my greatest joys actually was the Saturn.

It really blew me away.

And the Genesis.

I have a deep love for both systems now.

[visual sonnet]

Oh hell yeah

[short vale]

I grew up in a household where my parents had a strict rule: only one video game console allowed in the house.

They made me box up my NES after I got the SNES.

[visual sonnet]

Ah. That's how it was for me simply out of affordability

Had my console and our PC

[short vale]

And wouldn't allow me to get the Genesis, I'd have to give up the SNES, which I wouldn't go for.

[visual sonnet]

Yeah that's a tough ask

[short vale]

Yes, we did get a PC too later on, and I was into that

That somehow didn't count 😄

[visual sonnet]

Haha

The DOS core on MiSTer is pretty damn good too

Hundreds of great DOS games are playable with it

[short vale]

Oh yeah it definitely is

[visual sonnet]

And windows 3.1 games too

[short vale]

I played some Wolfenstein!

It ran butter smooth

[visual sonnet]

Hell yeah!

Wolfenstein on 3DO is really damn good.

Better than the PC version I dare say

[short vale]

Oh wow! That's great.

If it has good save capabilities, I might just play it all the way through again.

[visual sonnet]

The Doom port unfortunately is really rough

[short vale]

Haha yes, I heard

[visual sonnet]

I think you can save after each level

[short vale]

Great

Oh, I already downloaded a bunch of game isos to burn

But I think I'll buy the ones I really like.

Burn to try, if I like, buy

[visual sonnet]

If you enjoy dungeon crawlers...play AD&D Slayer.

Still one of my all time favorite games.

Randomly generated dungeons Everytime you play

Amazing soundtrack too

[short vale]

Wow, interesting. OK will for sure try.

One of the most fun times I had was I invited over a buddy when I first got my Saturn

I had burned like a ton of disks

We played so many games, laughing at many of them, having really good fun

[visual sonnet]

Those are great times

[short vale]

We both shared the fact that we wanted the Saturn a LOT back when it came out, but it was simply completely out of the question due to the insane price

Anyways, will probably have that similar experience with the 3DO this time

So yeah, just purchased one today hehe

with an extra conroller.

[visual sonnet]

I have more of these entire console libraries on a hard drive loaded onto my MiSTer and sometimes this summer a buddy of mine and I are gonna pick a console, make some homemade pizzas, drink some booze, eat pizza and try every game out in a consoles library

[short vale]

Stoked!

[visual sonnet]

There's some fun multiplayer games on 3DO too

[short vale]

Awesome. Pizza and beer is a must!

[visual sonnet]

You two will enjoy Twisted the game show

[short vale]

Hahaha

Yeah, at first I thought damn, it's only made for one player? but then I saw the daisy chaining thing. lol. funny idea.

[visual sonnet]

The daisy chain system is wild

[short vale]

I wonder how many you can daisy chain? just two.. or more? maybe it's unlimited

[visual sonnet]

You can get up to like 12 players.

[short vale]

whoah! haha

[visual sonnet]

FIFA allowed up to 8 I think

[short vale]

that is pretty cool

[visual sonnet]

Way of the Warrior is a fun fighter.

[short vale]

Wild that the 3DO wasn't a "success" it kinda makes me wonder why

[visual sonnet]

If you want to experience the absolute worst game ever created...boot up shadow war of succession

[short vale]

hahaha

ok i do want to try

[visual sonnet]

The launch price of 699 doomed it

[short vale]

I have fun playing "bad" games too! hehe

[visual sonnet]

The head start it could've got was crushed by that price.

[short vale]

Kinda like how you watch a bad cheesy movie, but laugh at it, and have a good time...

[visual sonnet]

They used a very different business model compared to everyone else.

Instead of losing in hardware n making it up on software...3DO licensed the hardware design to manufacturers. They had no way to make money back so the hardware was sold to profit or break even

[short vale]

Damn

[visual sonnet]

Eventually Panasonic got into software publishing which probably helped lower the cost later in its life

But it was too late by then

[short vale]

Yeah, seriously... I dunno if you had the same experience as me, but whenever I'd buy an EGM or Game Pro magazine, I would of course read the SNES portion but always scour the 3DO and Saturn games.. wishing I had the systems.

[visual sonnet]

Electronic Arts was a huge supporter of the console since 3DO's founder was also the founder of EA

So there are a ton of great EA games on the 3DO

[short vale]

Oh cool

[visual sonnet]

Oh yeah when I read my gaming maga for Genesis stuff, I looked at the 3DO stuff in pure awe.

[short vale]

Totally

Heh, exciting. I'll get my 3DO in the next week or two... so will share photos here and the journey!

[visual sonnet]

John Madden Football is solid on 3DO. EA even did a baseball game for it but it's a Japanese only release

Definitely get ahold of me when you do! I wanna see the setup and help you discover other wild games

[short vale]

Interestin. I would love to play those.

[visual sonnet]

So much unique stuff on it

If you love unique stuff you'll love whacky shit like Icebreaker and Gridders

The horde.

[short vale]

Oh yeah for sure I like wacky stuff.

[visual sonnet]

So many cool games.

[short vale]

32 bit era is full of those crazy games

[visual sonnet]

32 bit wra was the wild west of gaming

I miss those days so much. Infinitely better than today's era

[short vale]

It really was. Because they were trying new things.

3d was pretty new

[visual sonnet]

Exactly

Innovation and risk taking

[short vale]

they even tried fmv

[visual sonnet]

Now it's just remakes and remasters

[short vale]

and some of those games are hilarious

[visual sonnet]

Oh for sure. I love some cheesy FMV games

I recently played thru night trap for the first time ever and loved it. Played the 3DO version too

[short vale]

hah wicked

I still haven't actually played that one

Even tho I totally should have

I think I played it just once for a short time.

But yeah, should play the whole thing through.

[visual sonnet]

I played the crap outta Ground Zero Texas and Tomcat Alley when I had my Sega CD as a kid

Dracula Unleashed was a really fun FMV game too

[short vale]

Right, I love the sega cd. I started playing it after purchasing the Mega SD

I remember when it came out.

A friend got it, and we went to his house, and I was kinda in awe even tho the colors and pixels were crazy with the video

But was just new and interesting to see

[visual sonnet]

I know many dog on the Sega CD but I loved it.

I enjoyed the hell out of mine as a kid

People can go "but it only had FMV games" and I just laugh. That consist of less than 20% of the consoles library.

It had great RPGs. Great strategy games. And great platformers

[short vale]

Oh yeah for sure. It has a really cool library. No doubt.

And yeah, fmv games are on there but deffo not all

It was amazing to see video firstly, but also cd quality music

Mindblowing at the time.

Sega CD was actually a big success for Sega

That's why they got frisky and came out with the 32x which was the true failure imo

I actually do have a 32x now

I remember once in Costco seeing a 32x (new) for like $49.99 on clearance way back when it was dying out. I remember then feeling sad that it didn't "make it"

[visual sonnet]

My uncle got a 32x at eb games for $20 and the games were $5 a piece when they were clearing em out. We had a ton of fun with it

The Terminator on Sega CD was a hell of a gem

Had a great Spiderman game too

[short vale]

Yeah. Actually Spiderman was the first game I played on Playstation

The original PSX

[visual sonnet]

Nice!

[short vale]

That game also wowed me

But it wowed me in 2013 🙂

[visual sonnet]

It was very impressive

[short vale]

I think it really was.

[visual sonnet]

I'll play these games today and they blow me away seeing the thing people pulled off on old hardware

[short vale]

Oh for sure. I really respect what they did.

[visual sonnet]

So many tricks they'd come up with

[tranquil mortar]

I guess so yeah. Retro game prices (especially in the UK) have just gone up and up since lockdown.

I've kinda stopped collecting around then.

[wide crane]

Plenty of 3DO mods available https://consolemods.org/wiki/3DO:3DO_Mods_Wiki

[chilly gale]

I have had every model of the 3DO at some point. The Goldstar model would just spit burnt discs back out.

[visual sonnet]

Definitely a reason to avoid it then.
I'm sure opinions vary, but of all the 3DO models I think it's the ugliest one

[chilly gale]

Iirc I think it also lacks s-video

[visual sonnet]

oh man that's brutal.

[dense remnant]

It has it.

[karmic basin]

oh wow... that's my photo! 😄

random

[short vale]

Thinking of grabbing this for my 3DO

It’s on eBay by a Crown Arcade Shop

Might go well with my new 3DO I just pulled the trigger on

I wanna use the CD drive first

But this might be a nice addition down the road

[paper totem]

Has anyone ever done a 10mb ram upgrade on 3DO?

iirc that was the theoretical maximum

it'd be a homebrew only thing

[dense remnant]

Actually, I took that picture.

||...from the Internet.|| 😏

I've been considering that ODE for a while now for my FZ-1.

[timid osprey]

Any wishlists for 3DO?

Mine so far are:

The MK2 port

Out of this world, since I've only played the snes version

Dr Hauzer was it? Fan translated

Maybe the better versions of games like road rash, gex or wing commander

Oh? Looks like there's a new 3DO game https://x.com/ste_mega/status/1931050445289713791?t=xmWPyDyZjLTgm7Qy7HwANQ&s=19

3DO, PS1 & Atari Will (@ste_mega)

What madness is this? A new game? For the 3DO? Yes, yes it is. It's excellent, too, but I have some words of advice, though: Don't miss.

X · Jun 6, 2025, 6:07 PM

[chilly gale]

It's the PAL version that doesn't have s-video.

[covert wagon]

I there’s another another new one too. Just got sent to me for review

https://worldofgamespublishing.com/shop/ols/products/the-adventures-of-captain-j-limited-edition-3do

[timid osprey]

Awesome!

[short vale]

Wow. The 3DO thrives now like never before

Perhaps it’s going to be the true comeback console

And once the mister core is out many more can enjoy it

[ashen palm]

Yeah I'm excited! Never had one and the only time I played it was at a local kids house, and he just had a couple games. This was around 1998 or 99, so pretty late to see the 3DO. Looking forward to exploring a new library

[paper totem]

3DO could do some really crazy stuff if devs pushed it

It could easily handle Wing Commander Privateer.

Since they have the 3D WC3 engine running you could do a 3D version of Privateer. That would be nuts.

[short vale]

I didn't even know a single person with the 3DO.

I lived in a town that wasn't like, super small or anything, but I would betcha there wasn't a single 3DO in the city.

Maybe in the main mall, but I never saw one there myself.

It really was this mysterious, legendary system to me.

[dense remnant]

I used to think the same thing about my town... and I would have probably been right, except that I knew for a fact my younger brother had one, too.

[short vale]

Interesting. Yeah I don't even know if I actually saw a Saturn come to think of it.

[dense remnant]

He was (financially) smart though. He waited a year before he got his FZ-1. I got mine when it was released.

[short vale]

Oh wow, so you actually had one back in the day. Awesome.

[dense remnant]

Back when I was in the Air Force, yep. Didn't have anything else to spend my money on, so I figured why not. 😄

[short vale]

Oh very cool

[visual sonnet]

That one doesn't look very promising unfortunately

[distant grove]

Nope. That's GDO 101 only.

GDO 202 and 203 have no svideo

202 and 203 also have copyright protection

202

203

GDO 101 is typically found in the US and Korea. 202 was more common in parts of Europe and Russia, and I don't think it released in the US. 203 was originally believed to be a Korean exclusive, but I believe it has a small release in Russia and eastern Europe. Either way, US 3do owners will probably never see a 202 or 203 in person unless they're buying one for themselves from the internet. European collectors should be the ones to be careful buying the goldstars regarding the 202 vs 101

[distant grove]

Came out last year. You can buy it crystal case on eBay and World Of Games website

[unkempt ferry]

WAs just looking on Ebay, 3do are are lot cheaper than I expected, the Goldstar ones being 100-150 here in the UK, even boxes and complete. Panasonic ones seem a bit more. Is there a difference between the two?

[restive oasis]

goldstars are fabled to be relatively unreliable compared to panasonic ones

[karmic basin]

Personal experience: if you're using CD-R media, you will have little to no luck getting a Goldstar to read them.

[unkempt ferry]

£135 panasonic from Japan, so would have to pay customs tax on it, but there's a lot of jap ones for sale around 135-150 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387790797068

[distant grove]

Honestly they all need new caps. Panasonic leaks, goldstar caps dry up but no leaking.

Automated ebay descriptions

[distant grove]

Yeah. The Sanyo and the 101 use the same drive but for some reason the goldstar 101 is pickier. The 202 and 203, it's not about luck, they outright have copy protection

[karmic basin]

My FZ-10 seems to not care. I swear I could just write the name of a game on a blank disc, and it will somehow load it. 🤣

[distant grove]

Yeah the fz10 only seems to dislike the cheapest of the cheap discs.

https://youtu.be/GQdtl637j-0?si=_2OL0B4njUgwLLuy

[sharp pendant]

I got mine from Japan a few years back and yep, needed to recap the PSU board for it to play discs. Wasn't a super run recap but was doable.

[dense remnant]

For future reference, when pasting a link to eBay, everything after the item number is completely unnecessary tracking information. Delete everything from the ? after (highlighted).

[distant grove]

Yepp Change C631 c36 c35 and c1 and that typically solves most problems for the time being

[karmic basin]

The Trip Toasty is

[distant grove]

[paper totem]

Fz1 from Japan is what I have

[unkempt ferry]

Sorry, re-edited it.

[dense remnant]

No need to apologize. I just thought it would be helpful information for anyone in case they didn't realize. You do you. 🙂

[short vale]

Sweeeeeet https://youtu.be/f3pLMET5Ezg?si=-2oNg6llXZGaw_Ei

[dense remnant]

"Toasty!" 😄

Trippy?

[vapid swallow]

Time to fire up some MKII on my Mister 3DO core! Oh wait..

[karmic basin]

R•E•A•L SOON

[real rapids]

I was wrong again about the core's first build release date! I said it would the same day as the Switch 2 launch! Why must I be like this!?

[umbral charm]

No 3DO for you!

[wide hinge]

I just played it. It looks and sounds gorgeous.

[fossil sorrel]

This makes the 3DO core even more tantalising.

And thanks to the upcoming 3DO core I just used the word tantalising

Which I enjoy doing.

[real rapids]

I enjoy using the word moist. The thought of a 3DO core on the way makes me....

[fossil sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/woah-what-shocked-gif-16955128

[short vale]

I am pretty excited to join the 3DO gang

Especially with the release of that perfect looking port of MK2

I am counting down the days until my 3DO arrives... 13 days (estimate)

It would be funny if the MiSTer core came out right then.

[restive oasis]

first there was RADIO, then there was VIDEO and soon itshall be 3DO

[dense remnant]

Where does RODEO fit in?

[fossil sorrel]

The 3DO rodeo! That's gotta be the first 3 days after core release! Right?

[rich tundra]

soon it gets R•E•A•L

[chilly gale]

The Panasonic models are expensive but very high quality

[short vale]

Back in the day when the 3DO was out I didn't even know there were non-Panasonic versions haha

I don't think I ever knew about how the licensing system worked

I learned about that pretty recently

[visual sonnet]

I think the Panasonic models are what most retailers carried. Plus the Gold Star model didn't come out till a little later in the consoles life

[real rapids]

I remember seeing the Gold Star model at my local Best Buy back in the day. But yeah, the Panasonic model was always the "primary" one that was out there, and the one I got on launch day (the only one available of course at the time).

[short vale]

Gold Star. Wasn't that a Korean company? Might be the modern day LG

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoldStar

Cool.

It went defunct back in 2002

Also it seems like goldstar made chips for SNES carts. Though I don't know how common it is to see them: https://www.reddit.com/r/retrogaming/comments/d1ukmt/goldstar/

[visual sonnet]

Yeah, Gold Star is LG

LG now stands for Lucky GoldStar

[visual sonnet]

LG is a hell of a strong brand day. They make great OLED TVs and amazing appliances

I'm not a fan of their LCD and LED TVs personally but they make a great OLED

[unkempt ferry]

MK2 3d0 demo, might be worth grabbing in preparation - Direct link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T3Q_iEix3_YPQzNXGK2pRRRxyVP76i8H/view

[visual sonnet]

I spent some time with it.

Fantastic as far as visuals and audio goes.

Once some bugs in the gameplay get ironed out it'll be glorious

[distant grove]

Goldstar was a huge manufacturer. Being surprised by this would be like being surprised at a chip saying NEC, Toshiba, Matsushita, or Hitachi

[ivory ingot]

Goldstar is still huge, they're just called LG these days

[velvet geyser]

LG are today’s trinitron

as high a compliment as i can give

[visual sonnet]

Their OLEDS are great. Their LEDs can't display the color black to save their lives though

[dire sinew]

that’s the nature of LEDs

[visual sonnet]

Not really

Depends on if you use a VA panel or an IPS panel

You get deeper blacks with VA panels but wider viewing angles with IPS panels but blacks suffer as a result. I always sit straight on so I prefer the deeper blacks of a VA panel that Samsung and Sony use in their LED TVs

On LG LEDs blacks are pretty much grey, and they skimp on the dimming zones

[visual sonnet]

Their local dimming algorithms are also crap compared to Sony LEDs in the same price range

[dense remnant]

D65 bias lighting behind the monitor improves perceived contrast ratio greatly, particularly with IPS which needs it the most. I use it on all my displays.

I love my LG UltraGear 34GP83A-B ultrawide. Had it for over 2 years, and it looks great.

[visual sonnet]

I've tried that as well

Now that OLED is priced so well, and screen burn in has been mitigated well enough, I think OLED is the way to go now.

I use a Sony A48K in my game room and love it

After my daughter hijacked my 75 inch xbr I said screw it n went to OLED

[marble jetty]

I am absolutely no expert here but I’ve had my LG CX for just over five years now and I have zero burn-in.

[dire sinew]

Welcome back, buddy

[visual sonnet]

I've used my Sony OLED for two years now looe crazy and never had any signs of burn in either

[signal herald]

When do you have time to use it? You are staring at discord all day.

[visual sonnet]

He stares at Discord from his LG CX!

Laughing and taunting at image retention like a boss

[karmic basin]

You kids and your burn in worries. I don’t baby my OLED at all. Compared to my plasma tvs, these are worry free.

[real rapids]

My old LG C8 OLED had horrific burn in from playing too much Smash Bros. Ultimate on it. But my newer C3 OLED has had zero burn in issues at all. so the newer OLEDs are definitely good on that front.

[visual sonnet]

Well Tim many people have have burn in problems with older OLED's, so for quite some time it was a viable concern.

[dense remnant]

I've had my 65" LG OLED B6 for almost 10 years now (2016 model), and zero burn-in as well... but I am extremely picky about what I choose to display on it.
It definitely has its issues with temporary image retention though. Some colors are far worse than others. Yellow is probably the worst. Menu items for something like Amazon Prime Video or Plex will leave behind a shadow for a long time after approximately 30 seconds of being on-screen in one place.

It's a minor annoyance at most though, but it's always something I'm mindful of.

[visual sonnet]

I use my OLED as my desktop monitor. To be safe I just use transparanet icons, and wallpaper engine for active desktop backgrounds. 3 years in and no worries so far. I buy tv's so frequently myself, but if i get 3 or 4 years out of it, I'm satisified, but obviously for some, that's the tv they're gonna use for the next 5-10 years, so I can see why others would absolutely be concerned about it.

[weak hound]

Someone dig out an older oled and burn Pac-Man into it

[karmic basin]

My CX is five years in and doing great.

[dire sinew]

yeah, I literally replaced the s90c with my cx in the basement because it was better for gamez

[marble jetty]

I plug my MiSTer to the worst TV in the house. I think it was used on my CX once.

[visual sonnet]

I'm pretty sure on any OLED made in the last 5 or 6 years the only way to really ruin it is if you go out of your way to try and do so

At least among Sony and LG OLEDs anyways

The only thing that I will allow to burn into my OLED is the 3DO logo

[cobalt zephyr]

Not even from the scraping?

[oak owl]

I haven't had burn in with my B7, so 8 years of use. But I do have uneven vertical lines that are seen at low luminance levels. Don't think I can complain much, I think the tv will fail before showing burn in.

[visual sonnet]

8 years is a hell of a run. Can't ask for much more than that. Plus it's probably safe to say those of us who use them here, probably use their TVs far more than the average consumer as well

[dense remnant]

I have never used my 2016 OLED for 'retro' content that typically has a lot of static elements on-screen. I have plenty of other TVs and monitors for that (I use MiSTer primarily on my main 34" ultrawide monitor at 1440p which still looks fantastic). I'm even picky about modern games with PS4/PS5 for the same reason. I'll play something like Titanfall 2 because its HUD elements are always shifting based on movement, but I won't play something like Final Fantasy Remake/Rebirth on it.
If a game does have HUD elements, the ones I play the most on my OLED are the ones that have options where the HUD disappears automatically and only reappears briefly under certain conditions (Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, etc.)... so-called 'immersive HUD'.
Yes, it's a bit of an inconvenience, but I've grown accustomed to it. It's a choice I made years ago, and it's a choice that has allowed my OLED to be blemish-free all these years later. I don't expect anyone else to do the same or to even understand my reasons for doing it... because I don't really care. It's my TV, and I do whatever I feel is necessary to protect my investment and make it last as long as possible... and the cost of that investment was not insignificant back then.

An upgraded OLED model would be nice, especially with the improvements in the technology now that has gone a long way to mitigating or even eliminating those concerns now... but my next TV is most likely going to be a Bravia 7/9.

[fluid harness]

me here with a bunch of CRTs in candy cabs with burn in health bars that show up and "insert credit" burn ins.. Burn in just adds character, trust me 🙂 it's like those old house restorations where they pull up all the crappy vinyl and then polish up the scratched floorboards 🙂

[dense remnant]

Nah... you can have this. 😄

[karmic basin]

Is that Doom?

No... wait

Space Invaders

[ashen palm]

Metal Gear (basically)

[weak hound]

All games are pong

[surreal adder]

I trade you Pac Man for my burned in Crystal Castles tube.

[paper totem]

If Saturn core is finished does that mean 3DO is next?

[hybrid lotus]

We can only assume this is the case 🙂

[umbral charm]

I left some homework to srg320 before.

But the 3DO is in progress too.

[zenith dragon]

Any new 32x update on the way too?

[umbral charm]

Can't say anything.
I've shown some flaws and inaccuracies on the SH2 some days ago, on the Saturn.
I hope he could fix and/or do something about it in the future. So, the 32x core could have them too.

For the rest, I'm waiting and I don't have any more news like everyone else.

[zenith dragon]

Thanks

[visual sonnet]

Please let SRG know how much we appreciate his efforts here. As a diehard 3DO I truly appreciate him working on this

[weak hound]

After 3DO even the failure consoles will be done. Then it’s arcades or nothing

[dire sinew]

sir, the virtual boy would like a word

[weak hound]

Oh wait virtual boy is another fail console but who knows if it’s doable. Plus Robert didn’t want to touch it because of the inevitable asks about 3d glasses hardware

Haha damn you just beat me

It seems like 3DS is the best way to play that

[tranquil mortar]

Gamecoms a failure?

Revolutionary you mean. In both hardware and software

[restive oasis]

i have some designs for new cores

the future of the MiSTer project is bright with all these game consoles

[dreamy geode]

DS lets go!!!! I believe in Robert.

[restive oasis]

im very much looking forward to play need for speed for 3do

[dreamy geode]

it is pretty amazing all the systems the DE-10 Nano has been able to support

[dense remnant]

...and Road Rash!

[restive oasis]

[dense remnant]

...and Tuh-wis-ted!

[restive oasis]

way of the warrior and killing time

[dense remnant]

I'm wondering if daisy chained controllers will work via SNAC... 🤔

Thinking they should.

[umbral charm]

He knows it, he's just not an expansive man in general.

😉

[visual sonnet]

Haha that's fine. As long as he knows how much we love em!

[weak hound]

What do you mean, I find his patreon posts very touching and personal 😉

[marble jetty]

I love three d’oh

[short vale]

Oh the perfect pac man screen 🤪

I try to limit my Pac Man playing to under like 45 mins haha

[short vale]

If they did that makes 3DO the best console for snac adapters

[real rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-doh-the-simpsons-gif-12506649

[dense remnant]

What's worse about that image is that it's Ms. Pac-Man, the one where the levels actually change... and it still has that amount of burn-in. 😄

[short vale]

Ha!

[cobalt zephyr]

And N-gage! But I think I heard it might not be possible on DE10

[dense remnant]

N-Gage will be the GOAT(se)!

[dire sinew]

I'm pretty sure the ngage outsold the jag

the jag was like....400k units

[restive oasis]

for every jag there are 30 wii us

[short vale]

And they repurposed the Jaguar shell into Dental equipment

[dense remnant]

"...now spit."

[paper totem]

Lack of 3do is making me gexually frustrated

[visual sonnet]

Right?

We all need to be more gexually active here

[umbral charm]

3DO core cancelled, Gex Trilogy is out on consoles and PCs.

[karmic basin]

NEVER!

[restive oasis]

we will only play gex as god intended it on 3do

[dire sinew]

doesn't even have a gex game

[signal herald]

yeah, what happened to the duke?

[umbral charm]

Since an hour, yes. 3 Gex games.

[dire sinew]

goddamnit, the world move too fast

[dense remnant]

'common' gaming controllers... 😄

I've never even seen that GameCube monstrosity before. That's amazing.

[real rapids]

I wanted one of those GCN controllers so badly back in the day. I played way too much Phantasy Star Online on the system.

[dense remnant]

Whew. Just checked eBay, and those are not cheap...

[velvet geyser]

and now you can just use a common blueretro adapter and a keyboard

in fact i think you can use xbox360 style chatpads

[marble jetty]

Big if true

[visual sonnet]

I had one. Got it for phantasy Star online on the cube

[ionic plank]

The GC keyboard was only released in Japan right?

[marble jetty]

Yes

It wasn’t the only keyboard for the GameCube. Datel released the Powerboard in the US.

[restive oasis]

the gc keyboard thats a controller is of course the funniest one

[crimson orchid]

Same

[lapis cape]

There was also a GameShark-branded PS/2 keyboard that came with this handy adapter.

[real rapids]

Someday we will have our first 3DO core build and Zet-sensei will work for Trip Hawkins!

[dense remnant]

Just think of all the tests he'll get to enjoy running on the 3DO all over again!

[weak hound]

He has that “every movie villain ever” look

[tidal dirge]

I keep coming in here in hopes that srg320 will come by and say: "Just kidding! I'm not actually following through with this core, it was just a prank!"

[weak hound]

As many as tens of people will be happy

[visual sonnet]

Like a Bond villain

[fossil sorrel]

They should cast Michael Fassbender for the inevitable biopic

Fassbender could play every tech mogul one after the other

[warm kiln]

So, in terms of 3DO games that are still exclusive, and were never ported

[warm kiln]

I’ve heard people mention Demoltion Man, Doctor Hauzer, AD&D: Slayer, Twisted, Zhadnost, Snow Job, and Lucienne’s Quest (technically has a Saturn port, but not in English).

Anything else worth seeking out?

[real rapids]

Escape from Monster Manor is a good time.

[velvet geyser]

the saturn port of Sword & Sorcery (LQ) is having its English translation patched in from 3DO

[visual sonnet]

Immercenary is a must play. Often times, 3DO games that were ported to other consoles, those ports generally werent as good as the 3DO original

As you mentioned AD&D Slayer is fantasic, probably my favorite game on the console, it has a sequel called Deathkeep that is also very good. EXTREMELY hard, but it's good. I prefer Slayer though.

Shock Wave, it's expansion, and Shock Wave 2 are also really damn good

If you like old school point n click adventures, Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes is really good too

I've played nearly every single American 3DO release, and a few japanese titles as well, so if you ever had 3DO questions, hit me up

[ionic plank]

Arguably, Killing Time half counts bc the 3DO version has a completely different map from the PC ports

[visual sonnet]

Killing Time is also awesome.

Shame the frame rate wasn't a little bit better but it's passable.

[ionic plank]

Playing it on real hardware is the only way

The 10fps dips are an important part of the experience

[visual sonnet]

The framerate will be the same on Mister

[real rapids]

The new remaster of Killing Time is also fantastic. It's like a mix between the 3DO and PC versions.

[covert wagon]

You mean best game of all time?

[covert wagon]

And I got my name in the credits and in the game in an Easter egg. First game credit ever and it’s Killing Time 🤣

[visual sonnet]

Killing Time is actually one I've barely played

[covert wagon]

I grossly had to do business with LRG one last time to own a copy on PS5

[visual sonnet]

Ugh that's rough.

[covert wagon]

Yeah I had to swallow my pride when I placed the order but I had to have a physical copy of my favorite game of all time that had my name in it

[visual sonnet]

Completely understandable

Immercenary was my favorite 3DO FPS

It had some cool concepts

[covert wagon]

And soon we will be testing all these on a core

My guess is next week. Because I’ve got to travel and be away from my studio haha

So I’ll have my laptop, MiSTer, capture card and mic in my bag

[visual sonnet]

Oh I got the entire 3DO library already loaded on my MiSTer HD and ready to go

[covert wagon]

I should do that too

Get the library on the card in advance. Good call

[visual sonnet]

At worst I'll just have to rename the folder lol

I'm so excited to do testing

[covert wagon]

“_games”…”bestconsoleever”

[visual sonnet]

Exactly

It's weird how some despise the console to the point they don't even want others playing it 😂

It's garnered a weird level of hate that no other console has.

And it's so odd cause there's plenty of good games on it

M2 core next lol

[covert wagon]

Haha absolutely. Any time I say something positive about 3DO the video gets downvoted to hell and people in the comments are angry. Random people I’ve never seen before

[covert wagon]

I’ve got all the donor hardware ready when someone wants to take a crack at it

[visual sonnet]

Sega Lord X just did a 3DO road Rash video and some of the hate it for was absurd

[covert wagon]

And the SDK’s and other docs to go with it. And the encryption keys to sign software

[visual sonnet]

That'd be wild to see. It could effectively make the M2 an exclusive mister console. Maybe even get some game development!

[covert wagon]

But with the FZ-35 bios we don’t really need to sign anything unless we want to run it on a physical FZ-21 as that has an encrypted bios

[covert wagon]

I have some loose chips too that can be decapped. NOS stuff

[visual sonnet]

SRG can tackle it after 3DO core

[covert wagon]

I’ll sure as hell support an attempt best I can. With hardware to sacrifice, the knowledge in my brain, can put them in touch with the MAME emulation dev and a few people that worked on the hardware back in the day

[visual sonnet]

I hope the 3DO core is modelled after the fz1

Cause the Fz 10 has some issues with a few games

[distant grove]

The chances of him modeling it after ANVIL REV4 and not Madam Clio is so slim

[visual sonnet]

Thank god

[distant grove]

99% of anyone involved with 3do, deeply or just surface level, doesn't even know anvil exists because there is so few of them in north America and Japan, and there is so little games that have issues with them

Let some European talk about their random ass goldstar 202 though and you'd think none of the library works right on it. Buddy why are you playing Casper or Cyberia anyway?

[visual sonnet]

Hey Casper is supposed to be really good

And I love Cyberia

Road Rash had audio issues on the FZ-10

Although Cyberia is much better off being played on PC. Unless the 3DO version offers mouse support

[real rapids]

All Robby alts of course.

[fast pebble]

Would be a shame if someone would have a list of saturn/32x bugs for years just to prevent 3do just out of hate for the system, wouldn't it?

[visual sonnet]

So the core comes out a week later? oh well

[covert wagon]

We always knew it was Robby

[marble jetty]

3DO? More like Pee Poop Oh

gottem.exe

[karmic basin]

Trip died for this?

[fast pebble]

Someobe should distract robby with a vb core

[verbal fjord]

the oft demanded Visual Basic core!

[ionic plank]

wake me up when it’s VB.NET 😴

[dire sinew]

gonna make some AOL proggies. Anyone have a copy of guide tools?

[sinful cliff]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwyvMBzjHug

[visual sonnet]

Oh hell yes!!! This game is excellent. I played it on RetroArch using A.I. Translate which did an ok job. Enough to understand the story and what was going on. Totally worth another playthrough!!

[distant grove]

https://youtu.be/i0oQdL45gqQ?si=BHQSyB6PjUlnNQ1A

[warm kiln]

I really enjoyed Killing Time Resurrected. Shame they didn’t also include a direct port of the OG 3DO levels as an option like they did with Quake II 64, though - if they did, it would have made it the 100% definitive way to play the game.

[warm kiln]

You know, I still haven’t played the 3DO version of Lost Case Files 1. I’ve played the PC versions of both games via ScummVM, though, and really enjoyed them - I should give it a look.

[warm kiln]

This looks right up my alley - definitely adding it to the list.

[visual sonnet]

The 3DO version has little FMV boxes for every piece of dialogue

And the guy who plays Holmes n Watson really nail it

It's a really nice touch and actually a great use of FMV

[short vale]

I laugh emoji cuz I literally got a 3DO yesterday

Hey all

Say hello to my new 3DO!!

All the way from Japan! 🇯🇵

It’s a tad more scuffed on the top than I was hoping for but I see them as battle scars!

[covert wagon]

Glossy FZ-1. Fun

[short vale]

The two controllers honestly feel like brand new so that’s cool

[covert wagon]

Way more mattes out there in the world

[short vale]

Oh really

Didn’t know that!

I’m new to the world of 3DO!

Gonna do some disc burning tonight lol

Road rash will be my first

[covert wagon]

Yes matte is second revision of FZ-1 before they switch to FZ-10

[short vale]

Cool

Maybe if I really like the 3DO, which is pretty high certainty, I’ll try for a matte version

[dense remnant]

Both of mine are glossy tops. One of them is my launch model, and the other is the one my brother got a few months after me.

My younger brother never really appreciated the console, at least not nearly to the same degree I did. He mainly played Wing Commander, and we both played SSFIIT and Twisted many times, but then he got a PlayStation and never touched his 3DO since... so it ended up with me.

[visual sonnet]

She's a beauty

japanese controllers may not have this issue...

but, if you notice you're having issues getting good diagonal movement, lightly loosen the screws on the side of the controller where the d-pad is located and that'll resolve that

[short vale]

Thanks and yes she is. I’m just now awaiting an SVideo cable! And gonna burn a CD to test er out!!

Although I haven’t burned a CD for years

Haha

[visual sonnet]

Are you connecting it to a scaler?

Probably best with 3DO games like most old consoles to burn em at the slowest possible speed the cdr accepts

[dense remnant]

Oh yeah, I remember doing that to all of my controllers... just back off the screws just a tiny bit, and all was good.

[visual sonnet]

It's a huge help for way of the warrior

[dense remnant]

For me it was mainly for SSFIIT.

[visual sonnet]

It's definitely be huge for that as well

[dense remnant]

Then I got the Capcom-branded duckbill platypus controller. Good times were had.

[visual sonnet]

I got that thing

I love it

[dense remnant]

Surprisingly comfortable, it was. When I first saw it though, I certainly had my doubts.

Then I held it...
"Hmm... not bad. Not bad at all!"

[visual sonnet]

Yeah same. I was like there's NO way this is gonna work out

Then I used it and was like...well then....

[paper totem]

grab a panasonic JS-01 if you can

they're incredible

[short vale]

A slightly sad day

But I did find out this was manufactured in Osaka in 1994 April

So it might have never left Osaka until recently

[real rapids]

What matter most is that its heart still beats! 💪

[short vale]

Dude!!! It’s alive!!!!!

Road Rash is coooool

Wow so this is the system I drooled over as a teen ❤️

Item on bucket list checked ✅

[dense remnant]

Congrats!

[real rapids]

Road Rash 3DO was insane at the time. Absolutely blew away anything else at home. EA really was on fire on the 3DO.

[tribal sandal]

Agreed it’s actually my favourite game on 3DO

[visual sonnet]

EA did some of it's very best work on the 3DO in my opinion.

PS1 they did some great things on as well, It started to go progressivly downhill from the PS2 onwards

Wait till you play Need For Speed on the 3DO man. It's really good.

[real rapids]

I owned Need for Speed on 3DO! I played the heck out of that game. I actually owned most of EA's 3DO releases.

[visual sonnet]

FIFA International Soccer is also amazing on 3DO

Even if you aren't a huge sports gamer, from a graphical standpoint holy shit was that game next gen when it released.

[short vale]

Geeze you guys I love this system.

Road Rash feels great.

The Mortal Kombat 2 port is almost a reason in and of itself to get the 3DO

[real rapids]

FIFA was such a huge leap over Madden when it released. Madden was great, but you could really tell that they nailed it with FIFA.

[short vale]

THis is super cool ya'll

Controller feels much nicer than I was expecting.

These weirdly don't have a single mark on them and seem like brand new

They were owned by a Japanese person and I guess they keep their gear in good shape.

[visual sonnet]

I always liked the 3DO Controller

[short vale]

Yeah, feels great

[visual sonnet]

never had a problem with mine, and back in the the having a headphone jack in the controller was huge

[real rapids]

The d-pad wasn't super great for fighting games though.

[short vale]

I am using S-Video and it looks great on my JVC too!

[visual sonnet]

Yeah it'll look great on a CRT with S-Video

Crash N' Burn is pretty impressive looking also, as is Total Eclipse

[real rapids]

Crystal Dynamics was also such a major player on the console. Them and EA really helped a ton to flesh out the library.

Even today, whenever I think of Crystal Dynamics, I just think of 3DO.

[visual sonnet]

Yeah they were

[real rapids]

And whenever I think of Naughty Dog, I think of Way of the Warrior.

[visual sonnet]

Same

I was once said to Jason Rubin on his twitter to make a damn way of the warior sequel and break out his ninja outfit again lol

Him and his friend made that game in their apartment, and did all the green screen shooting there

and the one female character Crimson Glory was his girlfriend at the time.

[real rapids]

Anyway, it's getting late, so time for bed. I shall have dreams of the future 3DO MiSTer core.

[visual sonnet]

super low bedget

may we get lucky and wake up to a test core lol

night brother

[short vale]

I still haven't loaded that one up!

haha

I need to figure out where to place my 3DO. Currently just hooked up to the TV with S-Video and had to pull out my Gamecube's S-Video cable...

Need to figure out how to hook it up better

[visual sonnet]

Way of the Warrior takes some getting used to. Once you do though it's great

[short vale]

Maybe get a switch for S-Video I dunno

[visual sonnet]

The stage fatality in round 3 of the lava stage is awesome

[short vale]

Pretty sure I wanted to play it a long time ago, but then forgot about it haha

Temu Mortal Kombat but that's fine by me 😄

[visual sonnet]

It served its purpose in that I had a fun fighting game to play

[short vale]

Cool, I wanna play that one next.

Also gotta play some fifa

[visual sonnet]

I think it still holds up well visually today

Dude FIFA is so good

Plays great too

I just wish NHL 96 would've come out

That's my holy Grail game I wish we'd see a beta for.

I can't wait to hear bout what you think of all these 3DO games!

I wish Spectrum Holobyte would've finished the Star Trek The Next Generation game on it as well. The screenshots looked so good

[short vale]

Oh that woulda been cool

Star Trek on a 32 bit system nice

I played a lot of the SNES trek hehe

[wide crane]

Don't have it anymore, 😭

[short vale]

You sold it or something?

Oh I gotta say, the video intro to Road Rash is truly a work of art.

Pure awesome. Exclusive to 3DO? Never seen before...

[short vale]

Damn this game is hard. CPU killing me haha

I love the 90s vibes I am getting from this!

So Mortal Kombat inspired hehe

[wide hinge]

I was playing some 3DO with a friend last night. Mortal Kombat 2, Road Rash, Way of the Warrior, etc.. Man my Nakitech controllers are so bad. I can't wait for the mister core so I can use better controllers and have access to all of the games.

[distant grove]

The wireless or corded

[wide hinge]

wired rev 1

on a Goldstar

[surreal adder]

If you wanna upgrade from discs to an ODE, I highly recommend this one. https://ebay.us/m/AkOusK

I put that one in my japanese unit.

[short vale]

NIce u got two

I need to figure out how to work my 3DO into my setup. As a neat freak who likes everything in its place, all hooked up and ready, it's stressin me out cuz I only have one S-Video port in my TV and my Gamecube or 3DO have to fight for it.

Man, 1st world problems are hard!

Somehow I'll overcome.

[dense remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgPQb6jOpOA

[surreal adder]

Just buy a switch https://ebay.us/m/Afq56l

[short vale]

Hehe, so in the time I wrote that post, until now, I just reorganized my systems but yes, I definitely need an S-Video switch. So far it will only use two systems but thats fine!

It’s amazing how this little change makes my setup pretty much complete. Nearly impossible to add a new system though I saved space for a switch 2

I’ve got two main zones for my video game consoles now

[wide hinge]

I thought about doing the ODE mod, but I would also do an RGB mod while I'm there, or I could just wait for the core.

[short vale]

Yeah, RGB mod is an interesting idea. I'll check out how difficult it is. I RGB modded my N64...

When I finished modding my N64 I 100% expected I messed up and it wouldn't work cuz it was pretty tough.

But it worked!

Perfectly, and it's been going strong for years now 😄

[surreal adder]

I thought about an hdmi mod for my 3do, but im waiting for the core lol

[short vale]

I still play on CRT so no hdmi mod needed for me! But yeah I’m sure that core will be out any day now since I just dropped hundreds of dollars on my 3DO 😂

[visual sonnet]

We appreciate your financial sacrifice!

[distant grove]

Yeah no wonder. Those fucking suck

[dense remnant]

MiSTer is why I haven't felt compelled to waste money modding any of my consoles over the years for the ones it supports.

[wide hinge]

Yeppp

[short vale]

Was a cool video. Some history and fixing up a 3DO. I’ll have to do a full re-cap eventually https://youtu.be/IAmhUKW55ro?si=6hDEjmBaTXa9zWhY

[visual sonnet]

The reason the 3DO failed is really simple

$699 launch price

I know it didn't hold that price for long, but they needed to take advantage of every second they had of being the only 32-Bit console on the block and weren't able to do that

[trail raven]

Psh.... My parents were all like $699.... That's it!?... Wow ... So cheap....let's get 2

Kidding .. I remember wanting one when they were d/c... The system was like $50 and the games were selling at $5 each ... The entire library for like $150

And my mom hard no'd me

[real rapids]

I got mine at launch for $700!

I crashed 'n burned to my heart's content.

[visual sonnet]

I got mine in Xmas of 94 when it was $399 and came with 3 games. Twisted. Pebble Beach Golf, and Total Eclipse

[marble jetty]

Yeah my dad laughed when I asked for it for Christmas and saw the price lol

[velvet geyser]

and now xbox has realized Trip Hawkins wasn’t wrong; just ahead of the curve

[distant grove]

Not an occams razor here, it more so has to do with the fact you only had one game to get at launch. Over the years, consumers have proved time and time again they will spend ANYTHING to consume... But you have to have something to consume. Japanese launch was way better and the main difference is it had a good selection of games at launch

I'm not saying it would have had blowouts with a few extra games or sold as good as the PS1, but it would have done way better than it did

[visual sonnet]

Certainly would've done better, but that price was still putting it out of the range of so many kids who had to rely on their parents where even asking for a$199 SNES was a tough ask

[dense remnant]

It wasn't meant for kids.
It was meant for REAL gamers. 😏

[visual sonnet]

😂

[covert wagon]

ok so what have I missed? lol

[distant grove]

@visual sonnet clearly didn't watch the no kids toys commercial!

https://tenor.com/view/panasonic-3do-console-wars-toy-box-baby-games-super-nintendo-entertainment-system-gif-18327272376180857973

[visual sonnet]

Haha oh I remember it

[distant grove]

Still playing with your toys I see...

[distant grove]

Btw did this hurt the SNES and genesis

[visual sonnet]

For the life of me, I can't remember what exposure I had to the 3DO as a 12 year old that made me want one

[tidal dirge]

The TV commercials did hype it pretty well

But I don't remember any exclusives for it that really caught my attention

Looking at it now, the color depth was quite impressive for the time

[real rapids]

You missed the 3DO core's release ||that didn't happen yet||!

[covert wagon]

I am on a plane sat am. Itll be sat

but I am literally going to bring a MiSTer and a mic with me

[real rapids]

If there is any time that the 3DO core gets released, it will be when it is most inconvenient for you to cover it.

[marble jetty]

Anyone try the Belzerion translation?

[dire sinew]

is that where the robots revolt and we have to create mentats?

[marble jetty]

I dunno, maybe?

[dire sinew]

https://tenor.com/bOCyJ.gif

[marble jetty]

Wow I love Starship Troopers!

[dire sinew]

Casper Van Dien ❤️

[karmic basin]

Is that the Silver Shamrock one?

[marble jetty]

Uhhhhh.... yes

ok I made MGL files for all my 3DO games lol

[visual sonnet]

I beat it last year with RetroArch a.i. translate. I'm gonna start it up next week n play the translation. It's a fun game.

[raw bluff]

do you use a kind of script to automate the creation or you do it manually?

[marble jetty]

Manually

[dire sinew]

robby hand rolls his mgls

[raw bluff]

It would be great to have an app or script to create mgl in batch.

[marble jetty]

@near raft wrote a script just for that!

https://github.com/wizzomafizzo/MiSTer_GamesMenu

He’s got a bunch of other awesome scripts too, definitely check them out!

[raw bluff]

Thanks for sharing. I knew this script for creating a browsable menu of your games... It's not quite what I had in mind.
I already make my own MGL files manually; my ROMs are on a NAS. I would have preferred a kind of Python script that could run on Windows/Linux PCs and then organize in folders my mgl like I want.

This is not related to the 3DO so I won't discuss this topic further. 😉

[visual sonnet]

Here I am living in the dark ages. I load the console core, then bring up the menu, and browse the directory of all the games and pick what I wanna play 😂

[dense remnant]

All this tapping and MGLing. What'll these kids think of next?

I still browse through the ROMs, find the one I want, blow on it a couple times, then insert it in the menu.

[marble jetty]

Maybe I’m just stuck in my ways or how I approach game selection but I do MGL files since it’s faster for me to browse through those lists without loading a console core first.

It’s not better, sometimes I am in an N64 mood and go straight to that core or load the Turbo core first.

[empty valley]

The MGL file chooses the latest version of the core by date. It’s pretty neat. Just make sure the N64 turbo core has a more recent date than the stock core and the MGL files will boot the turbo core automatically

As long are the RBFs are in the Console folder that is

[weak hound]

Zaparoo is great for people who don’t normally use mister or for children. It’s a very fast way to launch a game if you’ve got a pile of cards to toss at a reader

[near raft]

Busted

This guy doesn’t even use any of my stuff he’s too advanced for it now!!!!

[marble jetty]

To be honest your scripts would make my life easier. I don’t know why I make them manually lol.

[near raft]

Probably because you’re a big nerd who likes writing them 🍻

[real rapids]

Nerrrrrd!

[trail raven]

Is this against the rules?

Anyone interested in buying a 3DO?

It has a working optical drive with a copy of waialae...

However the CD trays front has a hole cut in it because I bought an ODE I never got to work, I forgot the name of it .but it was the same person who created the gdemu .

That will also be included along with one controller

If that was a nono.. delete or just tell me.. I just want homies here to get a chance before I toss it on eBay

[short vale]

I agree. The hardware itself was really cool.

I think the price is the original sin per se

But the final head chop came from Sony

With their mic drop price drop

That scared the investors, stock holders, and the loosely aligned coalition supporting the 3DO

That's why a monolithic corporation like Sony could win in that situation.

Man, Sony won that generation...

[visual sonnet]

Sony walking into dev studios and just buying exclusivity on so many games hurt 3DO too

[short vale]

3DO wanted exclusive games too but hard to do if you can make an order of magnitude more money letting Sony release the same stuff that was on the 3DO

Now it seems Nintendo and Sony (barely Sony) are the stragglers

Nintendo is the pure exclusives company tho

Won't find Mario on a Playstation or Xbox or Steam!

I am sure there's an alternate reality out there where Nintendo died or kinda ended up more like Atari

or even Sega

But no, Nintendo is soooo strong still. How? haha

I guess they just found their niche.

[real rapids]

Nintendo survived by being good at business.

[visual sonnet]

I've never been a big Nintendo guy personally

[real rapids]

Even when they were failing with the Wii U, they had literally billions in the bank. They weren't going to die any time soon.

[visual sonnet]

But they survive because they don't sell their hardware at a loss like everyone traditionally does

[short vale]

I was. And still think I am in theory. But then if I have a modern Nintendo system, I barely touch it. I gave away my Switch to a buddy (well, we both split the cost, and I let him just take it). He has kids. His kids freakin love it.

[visual sonnet]

And yeah they got so much money in the bank they can afford a few failures

[real rapids]

And during the Switch era, they made nearly as much money as all their other console generations combined.

That includes handhelds.

[visual sonnet]

I love gained a ton of respect for the SNES but that's bout it for me. And the NES is good

[short vale]

Which actually is when I learned how rich they are.

I had no idea back then.

[visual sonnet]

I just hate their unchecked arrogance

[short vale]

I thought the Wii U was gonna be the death of them. But nope. Didn't hurt them at all.

Then I learned later about how cash rich they are.

[visual sonnet]

And their determination to try and make emulation illegal

[real rapids]

There is a lot I don't like about Nintendo. A lot. But I also still love them, because they just make hella good games.

[visual sonnet]

I mean it's not the devs fault there

There's the development side and the company side

It's like trying to separate the artist from the art.

[short vale]

I rate them like this:

1. SNES
2. NES
3. Gamecube
4. Everything else...
5. N64 haha

Although I've been enjoying the decomps thanks to VGE's awesome channel 🙂

[real rapids]

There's the dark side of Nintendo. And the amazing game company that has made banger after banger for 40 years.

[visual sonnet]

I was a huge Chris Benoit fan but now I can't even watch one of his matches without feeling disgusted

[short vale]

Separating the rabid lawyers from the happy smile of Miyamoto

[visual sonnet]

Yeah I just can't do it

[short vale]

Heh, yeah.. it's pretty crazy to look behind the curtain at Nintendo.

[visual sonnet]

But I totally get why other people will still support them

[short vale]

I totally understand.

[visual sonnet]

I was always a diehard Sega guy and Sega is essentially dead now

It's just a new company using the name today

[short vale]

Yeah, it sucks when you have someone who you admire, who made some media you absolutely love, then find out something about them that makes you wanna puke

[real rapids]

It's funny to me that the best of Sega now is actually Altus.

[visual sonnet]

Yeah

That's bout all there is. Atlus

[short vale]

Funny I never grew up with Sega (although I wanted a Sega, my parents had a one console in the house policy)

[visual sonnet]

Tough when parents do that

[short vale]

So when I turned 30 years old, I was like "fuck, I just realized I have money now, and can buy a Sega" hahahaha

Genesis

I already owned a Dreamcast 😉

[visual sonnet]

Putting these enormous choices on our child brains 😂

[real rapids]

I loved the Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast. Never really got into the Master System though.

[short vale]

I got the Dreamcast when I moved out in 1999 😄

My god those are great consoles.

My favorite is probably the Saturn tho

[visual sonnet]

Master System does have some great stuff

But the Genesis was something else

[short vale]

I like the Saturn cuz it's still pretty 2d

[visual sonnet]

I wish the Dreamcast had lasted just one more year on the market

We would've got so many more great games

[short vale]

Dreamcast really was awesome tho

Like, when I bought it, I was just so impressed with it

Soul Calibur blew me away

[real rapids]

The Saturn was pretty rough outside of Japan at the time, but even then there were still some incredible games.

[short vale]

Shenmue was an experience on another level. Felt like two generations ahead.

[visual sonnet]

I remember playing Sonic adventure for the first time and that spot where you get chased by the whale ..

Man I was picking my jaw up off the floor

[short vale]

I went from SNES to Shenmue. Think about that.

[visual sonnet]

Damn that's a huge leap

[short vale]

Yeah.

[warm kiln]

Nintendo survived by getting incredibly lucky with the Wii, and then with the Switch being the first mainstream portable AAA console by a mainstream company.

It gave them enough money in the bank to keep them active, despite having projects that otherwise ranged from mostly middling commercial sales to very major missteps (Virtual Boy, the collapse of SNES-CD, N64, N64-DD, GameCube, Wii U).

[real rapids]

I wouldn't call it lucky.

[visual sonnet]

I didn't think the Cube was a commercial failure was it?

I figured they made some money off it

[real rapids]

And it wasn't just the Wii. Pokemon was absolutely huge and they made a crap ton of money from it and selling handhelds to play it.

[warm kiln]

Yeah, it was the lowest selling mainstream console of its generation

[visual sonnet]

The N64 didn't reach SNES heights but I figured it still did well

Well enough at least

[short vale]

I never even considered getting a Saturn back then. It was so out of my league. Firstly couldn't afford it, but secondly, the rule... parents wouldn't lemme haha.

So I got a Saturn for the first time probably around 2016 or so? A black Saturn. LOVED it. Absolutely played the hell out of it. It was soooo much fun to explore.

[real rapids]

GCN still made money for them though.

[short vale]

I then bought a second Saturn cuz I loved it so much. A white Japanese one.

I sold my black Saturn. Which I really regret.

[warm kiln]

It sold less than 1/7 of what the PlayStation 2 did that generation

[visual sonnet]

Love the Saturn

[short vale]

Yeah, I remember Gamecube was "fine" but not the leader of that generation by any means...

The Wii was a crazy success eh. Sold a ton of systems, grandmas and grandpas apparently were buying it and every retirement home haha so they say

[real rapids]

I'm not saying it sold better. I'm saying it made them a lot of money still. Which it did.

Nintendo's only real genuine failure when it comes to their "main" consoles (as in, not handhelds or the Virtual Boy) was the Wii U.

[short vale]

Yes. It's sooooo cool. I am so happy that in 2012 or so I just had the idea of starting to get back into retro gaming and slowly collecting everything. Kinda like fullfilling a childhood fantasy but I might even enjoy these games MORE now than I would have as a teen

[visual sonnet]

I thought the Wii sucked too

But the gimmick took off

[real rapids]

I hated the Wii hardware. But it had a ton of amazing games.

[visual sonnet]

I got a crash here for a bit. Was out in 102 degree heat all day

[short vale]

It did kinda suck? But man I did have fun playing it at a friends house.

[visual sonnet]

It took it's toll. Not feeling so well at the moment

[short vale]

Like, when I look at the Wii, I just think (wrongly) it sucks. But it is really a load of fun.

And I never played it by myself

Always with freinds, at their house, always with lots of beer

[real rapids]

I've never been a fan of the Switch as a handheld either, I use it almost exclusively in docked mode. But it has a ton of amazing games as well, so that's really I care about.

[short vale]

Yeah I will get the new Switch haha

I decided even tho I might not play most games

But I want Metroid 😄

[real rapids]

Metroid is my favorite game series of all time. And Super Metroid is my favorite game of all time.

[short vale]

Me too!

[real rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-24818151

[short vale]

https://tenor.com/view/samus-good-job-gif-23270245

I actually checked out a local store today for the new Switch but out of stock still haha

[real rapids]

Ironically, Super Metroid was the first game to pull me away from my 3DO at the time! I was all in on 3DO back then, and then Super Metroid came out. And I just needed that game.

[short vale]

I loved that game so much

It was so immersive

And also cinematic too

I loved exploring

Just everything about it..the music too

[real rapids]

There is no other game that exists that I've played through more times than Super Metroid.

[short vale]

I recently went to a Retro Gaming Expo and wanted to buy a mint version of it. Just for display.

It's the only game I want a mint version of.

Yeah, i hold it up very high

[real rapids]

I still have my original box/inserts for it. Mint.

Even the original purchase receipt!

[short vale]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-tip-hats-off-respect-boy-yankees-gif-17680220

Wow so jealous haha

I sold so much of my stuff when I was a poor 20 year old 😦

[short vale]

Amazing!

[real rapids]

Ahem, anyway...who here loves 3DO!!

[short vale]

Well, speaking of games and stuff... off to play a bit instead of just talking about them lol

I got a whole new 3DO to explore!

Yes, I just got one. I should share more photos of it... but alas... later, later...

[visual sonnet]

my personal tip to everyone if you're in the heat wave...stay freaking hydrated. holy shit. I felt like I was legit gonna die earlier today and my dumb ass wasn't drinking enough water.

[visual sonnet]

Do share more photos man! There's nothing more magical, than experiencing a new console for the first time, and finding games on it that you love.

[marble jetty]

Hey guys, how are we enjoying the 3DO core?

https://tenor.com/view/reptile-lol-hehehe-gif-5441436

[ashen palm]

Enjoying it as much as a real 3DO, by not having one 😢

[real rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-gif-4810169

[raw bluff]

In early 1994 I ordered a 3DO and some games from a store, but at that time my father convinced me to cancel the order in order to invest the money more wisely than in video games. So I never played the 3DO! For me a MiSTer core in 2025 would be a historic reversal 30 years later. 😛

[marble jetty]

I hope he convinced you to get a Jaguar instead

[dire sinew]

the true next generation console

maths

[real rapids]

Give me a 3!
3️⃣ !
Give me a D!
🇩 !
Give me an O!
🇴 !

What does that spell?
||🇲 2️⃣|| of course!

[hybrid lotus]

Lol

[tidal dirge]

"Give me a D!" --MARl0

[weak hound]

He needs 3 Ds before he can O

[dire sinew]

https://tenor.com/bmC8R.gif

[real rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/doolwind-the-office-jet-attack-move-attack-move-jet-attack-gif-8593685078102904069

[signal herald]

We have m2 at home?

[warm kiln]

Anyone else noticed there’s been tons of pickle-flavored stuff lately? I went to a 7-Eleven and they had like 10 different kinds of pickle chips from different companies

[real rapids]

I hate pickle flavor!

[warm kiln]

See, I don’t hate it, myself, but I get why people do. It’s like a weirder Salt & Vinegar, which is already a divisive flavor.

It just makes it stranger, though, that there were so many different kinds of pickle chips in there.

Like, there were pickle-flavored Doritos. Who asked for that?

[signal herald]

Didn’t try the Popeyes pickle lemonade when it was available?

[marble jetty]

THERE’S GODDAMN PICKLE RAMEN NOW

https://www.nissinfoods.com/product/cup-noodles/cup-noodles-dill-pickle/

[visual sonnet]

Pickles might just be the most disgusting thing in the entire universe

[real rapids]

Close. My mom's meat loaf is somehow worse.

[fast pebble]

Howerver she is smart enough to not sell it

[fossil sorrel]

Hmmmm... this sounds like the work of... The Pickler!!!

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-toss-dc-comics-batman-forever-jim-carrey-gif-15323838

What dastardly delectable will he dream up next??!!?

[solid sigil]

3+D(4)+0=7
7= July
July 1st?

[hybrid lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[charred roost]

As someone who once ate through three jars of pickles in one sitting, I have to respectfully disagree with hidden fury for the disrespect of picklekind

[umbral charm]

During my discussions with srg320, he expressed that 3DO is very low priority at the moment.

Sorry for crushing your expectations on a core release very soon.

[weak hound]

I’m sure 3DO fans are happy he’s willing to work on it at all at some point

Just think 3DO came in last for mister cores, making it the worst console officially forever

[dire sinew]

Listen, this is a win

SRG is treating 3DO like we did when it came out

Cycle accurate and period accurate

truly, above and beyond

[weak hound]

Maybe to make the time before a core exists pass more quickly you could push a needle under your nail bed to simulate all the fun of 3DO

[fossil sorrel]

Everyone stay calm I'll deal with this...
Doyle... look at me

https://tenor.com/view/calmdown-chris-pratt-stand-down-gif-5439823

We know you do this when you're upset...

You lash out...

It's going to be ok

Everything's going to be okay

[weak hound]

VELOCIRAPTOR HONK

The raptors just liked looking down that unbuttoned shirt, pervs

[tribal sandal]

Just to clarify lower priority doesn’t mean very low priority right?

[sinful cliff]

Srg320 has FORGOTTEN about 3DO 💔

[restive oasis]

we must find Srg3DO to take up the mantle

[dire sinew]

he's focused on saturn and TG16 at the moment. they are both very close to the finish line, and it sounds like he'd like to just get them over

[sinful cliff]

Sounds like SEGA Saturn is going to get major updates soon that will fix several significant bugs, so get hyped. 💪

[umbral charm]

Compared to the other already existing cores maintained by srg320, it's on the lower priority possible at the moment.

[tribal sandal]

Ah I see, it’s still great to see the progress he made on his last video, it’s not exactly a easy system to replicate. It will be worth the wait

[umbral charm]

That's damn right.