Mister Pi Users

[patent knoll]

It's called being ahead of the curve! The West wasn't ready for the brilliance of the Saturn or Mr. Big!

[dense umbra]

No only single i believe. There is a dual Daemonbite for it but digital only

[cinder crane]

Damn ah well

No two player virtual on for me

Which wouldn’t have ever happened anyways since I’m not buying another virtual on stick lol

[crude kernel]

I think it's awesome. Isn't the PS1 basically the newest system that has full support?

Other than handhelds

[cinder crane]

N64

[winged summit]

The original repository for those haven’t received an update in years. Do you know it is because they just work at these point, or development has stopped?

[dense umbra]

I believe Mick stopped working on it but the one available works fine for digital controllers i made one

[slow skiff]

Anyone knows if I can change the MT32-Pi volume on the fly inside Mister?

[tardy hornet]

Has anyone used the misteraddons aluminum case on a mister pi stack? I know the io plates won't line up but just curious

Also any idea when they will get back in stock?

[faint dune]

I believe @inner terrace mentioned on his discord that he was putting in an order for cases soon.

[patent knoll]

The power and usb plate won't line up on the MiSTer Pi either since MAs cases use the DE-10's barrel jack and micro usb in.

So no, it won't work in any MA case configuration

[tardy hornet]

right the io plates on front and back wont line up like i said but was curious

that said

[faint dune]

snac port won't either, unfortunately

[tardy hornet]

right

which is kinda a shame.... and i dont know if MA will do a mister pi option either....

[faint dune]

Yeah, I doubt it makes sense for him to. I thought I saw a metal case on etsy...not as nice as pork's but...metal

[tardy hornet]

only one i found was based on that pcb style one

[faint dune]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1801103476/mister-pi-rsk224mr-taki-udon-mister-pi

it's...fine

[digital estuary]

I decided to make a PN532 NFC USB C Module capable zaparoo 64DD base for the N64 case. I have no interest in running zaparoo cards, but i figured I would make one for the community. Only thing im not sure is on my slot, what kind of clearances are required for the NFC card so my current model slot might be a little loose. The NFC reader can either be glued down with adhesive tape, or 4 small screws inserted.

[faint dune]

https://bsky.app/profile/takiudon.bsky.social/post/3lfe4figous2q well there it is

Taki Udon (@takiudon.bsky.social)

This is going to go on sale at some point this month. Our first batch (the $149 autographed founders edition) has a finite, but not small, supply. Prior customers (friends) have a guarantee spot.

Sign up to our newsletter for advanced notice of the launch: retroremake.co/pages/newsle...

Taki Udon (@takiudon.bsky.social)
The world's first affordable FPGA gaming console. Inspired by the PS one. Supports PS1 games, memory cards, and controllers. Analog/Digital output. NFC/WiFi/BT. MiSTer FPGA compatible. Disc support not pictured.

Pricing starts at $149 for founders and friends.

Bluesky · Jan 10, 2025, 2:09 AM

[wary turret]

Who is autographing them? Taki?

I hope it’s Wayne Gretzky

[sharp pulsar]

Bobby Hull

[digital estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/koth-king-of-the-hill-gif-24873305

[dire merlin]

lmao autographed

[high umbra]

Pricing starts at $149 for founders?

Aren’t those the same ppl that are autographing them

[echo trout]

i don't want mine autographed lol. but after being a first batch owner of the Mister Pi i am content waiting for future batches with all the problems ironed out

[faint dune]

I want an autographed super sega

and I need it to smell like cigarettes and day old french fry grease

[zinc spoke]

Just put a cape on your regular Sega

[crude kernel]

Tapto is way too much fun. Definitely not necessary but retro frogs stack is a pretty clean look and it definitely feels nostalgic.

I need to find some longer m3's!

[wary turret]

#clipsthatendtoosoon

It’s all right it played in my head anyway

[gritty herald]

16mm should be perfect

[faint imp]

People getting anal about Taki's products names. Again! 🤣

PSX Pi wen

[faint dune]

The internet

[wary turret]

What was the new one?

I already forgot

[faint dune]

R2 One

taki’s name game is not strong

design game, on the other hand, is

[dull gull]

how often do you guys run update_all?

[faint dune]

whenever there is new stuff.

[digital estuary]

Once every week or two

[cinder crane]

MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY

[dire merlin]

ALWAYS

BE

UPDATING

[high umbra]

I run it every couple of months

[cinder crane]

Like just now I excitedly got a cheat code update for beauty and the beast genesis

Imagine not playing with the latest cheat codes for beauty and the beast genesis

Haw haw haw couldn’t be me!

[high umbra]

Wut

Fml

[shrewd dust]

🤔 can we put update_all in Favorites?

[cinder crane]

No!

[dire merlin]

Robby devestated

he so badly wants to make an MGL for update_all

[cinder crane]

yes!

[dire merlin]

YOU CAN'T LOL

[cursive crypt]

Robby, Update-all is just like regular update if someone told them to BEEF IT UP

[cinder crane]

I made a script to launch the mem test core so I could avoid having a utilities folder

haw haw haw, you can’t contain me mister devs!

[faint imp]

Einstein lives among us, it seems

[sharp pulsar]

Last time I ran update_all it replaced all the cores I deleted. Gotta set up excludes

[cinder crane]

Yeah let me know if you need help with that

[sharp pulsar]

Will do. I found a guide but forgot to bookmark it lol

Ah, found it again

[plain needle]

Link?

[crude kernel]

No support for Sega gun games yet right?

I stumbled on a justifier for $25 but other than mister, I have no use for it

[faint dune]

saturn has support but that's it

[cloud estuary]

And Genesis and master system

[shrewd dust]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Downloader_MiSTer/blob/main/docs/download-filters.md

[sharp pulsar]

Travel kit

[upbeat gyro]

Got the m30’s in it. Good call

[stray shore]

I need to do almost the same for future retro conventions.

Just need a larger case as I want to add a small PVM too.

[cinder crane]

Dude that is cool as hell

How tall is it?

[sharp pulsar]

Pretty much the perfect height to fit the m30 controllers sideways

I actually managed to fit analog and digital io stuff in there:

[faint dune]

did you get that insert made custom, because it’s great?

[cloud estuary]

Most of these cases are filled with Pluck foam, it's just scored in 1/2" chunk and you can tear it out to suit your needs

[faint dune]

oh no shit

huh

[cloud estuary]

I did up a pluck foam case for one a while ago, and wound up swapping to the padded semi-rigid camera backpack instead, its a lot less heavy and cumbersome

[cloud estuary]

is it a 9" PVM? Have you look at Portabrace cases?

oh i also have this smaller camera bag I use as a travel mister case

[upbeat gyro]

Yeah I got a pluck foam case when I had to fly with firearms. I bet I still have that in the basement

I should make it a mister case 🤣

[cinder crane]

Man, that’s perfect

…for me to poop on

[sharp pulsar]

Crazy range in price on em. Pelican brand are $$$

[upbeat gyro]

Yeah for sure

This was an Amazon pelican knockoff

[sharp pulsar]

That one is a “str8 case”, marketed towards carrying glass

[upbeat gyro]

Worked well enough to fly to Texas and back

[sharp pulsar]

In retrospect, putting the mister vertically would have been more space efficient

[sharp pulsar]

Nice, room for a toothbrush

[stray shore]

I'm discovering the brand right now, thanks.
Yeah, 5" and 9" PVMs for retro conventions.

I'm using already some Pelica cases for my HiFi stuff.

[upbeat gyro]

Just looked it up it was $22 when I bought it in 2015. $39 now

🤪

Probably $60 after the 20th

I also don’t really travel anywhere with my mister, it goes to the office every now and then for “team building”

[lyric gull]

The PVM Mister that Taki is cooking should be great for taking around to friends or the office.

[upbeat gyro]

We have this LCD in our team area that is probably 80ms of input latency anyways

[cloud estuary]

It's just a more clunky version of ipad screen many of us has been using for a few years

by and large

[upbeat gyro]

Usually take my Pi5 as people wanna play Blitz 2k1 on Dreamcast lol

[cloud estuary]

theres a guy selling a blitz cab near me that has the n64 memory card slots

[faint dune]

I found this last night and was hoping someone had updated it for the raspberry pi 5

https://www.printables.com/model/220606-retrodeck-raspberry-pi-3-and-mister-wedge-style-co

[wary turret]

Looks cool not sure what makes it cyberpunk

[faint dune]

gotta be the font

but yeah, love the idea

there is an amiga inspired one as well

[cloud estuary]

theres an official pi4 based one thats an off the shelf product

[faint dune]

yeah, but the printed one has a mister in it too

[cloud estuary]

pi400

[sharp pulsar]

Pi400’s omission of a trackpad is criminal

[cursive crypt]

Ah, 9mm short, nice.

[cinder crane]

OMG COOL

[upbeat gyro]

I hate it so much but it’s so pocketable. Def not a range gun

[cursive crypt]

I have the opposite of a pocketable but don't think we can share Firearm pics here 🙂

[cinder crane]

As a Texan I have brought great shame to my state by agreeing here

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/what-shocked-surprised-why-how-gif-24191425

[stray shore]

It exists even a PI 500.
Everyday I'm learning something new.

[upbeat gyro]

I brought that to Texas with me because I didn’t want to be in the minority

[cloud estuary]

i have one of the pi400s and it's handy as a little retropie device

[upbeat gyro]

That trip was to Austin. Place smelled like mustache wax

[cloud estuary]

and you can also set it up desktop mode and have a browser

[cinder crane]

never have I seen a description of Austin be so accurate as this

[cinder crane]

I use a Pi 500 as a kid’s computer!

Damn that’s the edit I sent to my sister with the “zakk sucks” line removed lol

[cursive crypt]

right down to the deskmat, this man aesthetics

[upbeat gyro]

It’s the truth. Mustache wax and franklins brisket

lol

Be back in the Houston area this spring. Gotta get my yearly bucees spending in

[tardy hornet]

case for mister or RPi 3+

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[faint dune]

I want a pi 5 + mister case that outputs out of the same hdmi port and uses the same usb port is that so hard?

[cloud estuary]

in fact it is lol

[slim sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

man those take me back (was in film industry ages ago)

best CRTs were the one that came in roadcases and yokes for video village

film video taps (composite lol)

funny that we gripe so much about image quality on CRTs and back then we'd get the worst looking unimaginable dogshit image from a video tap to film some of cinema's greatest images. (only way to actually judge the image was through a dim optical viewfinder)

For those who don't know. Basically the only way anyone can see anything from a film movie camera other than the operator looking through the eyepiece is a beamsplitter (the tap) that would project a dim portion of the already dim eyepiece image into a piece of frosted glass, then a tiny video camera would record that flickering shitty image and output it as composite video for viewing on monitors

only recently (in the last 5-10 years) have some of those taps been replaced with HD mini cameras but thats really only big budget camera packages which have all fallen out of favour

I remember 15 years ago panavision toronto threw out an entire dumpster of PVM monitors and actually was collecting any tubes anyone around had to get them all recycled together

[upbeat gyro]

77” LG G4 is $2199 on LG partner store right now. Tempted to return my C3 lol

[faint dune]

that’s a good tv…

[upbeat gyro]

Yeah. Killer deal

Just not sure it’s worth the hassle when my C3 is already on the wall lol

I could buy a P1S for the price difference 🤣

[faint dune]

probably not worth it

you’ll get more use out of the p1s

but, honestly, I’m just waiting for bambu to drop their next thing so I can have an existential crisis

[upbeat gyro]

My wife is about to start trying to sell these for me in the local moms groups

So hopefully I will make enough to cover a P1S

[faint dune]

oh man, where did you find those?

[cursive crypt]

I've seen this in too many NWFW memes to take it seriously.

[upbeat gyro]

https://makerworld.com/models/976286

I’m working on modifications

[faint dune]

oh! I thought you were printing the tops

[upbeat gyro]

I designed these rails for it to slide in on

[faint dune]

niiice

[upbeat gyro]

Vs the command strips I had

Removing the pedestals too, no idea why he has them so high

Just gotta reprint.

[upbeat gyro]

Christ that would be a money maker lol

[faint dune]

Bluey baby. printing money

[crude kernel]

I think that people without kids might not fully comprehend this joke. This fucking juice costs like $4. My kids look at me like I'm an absolute failure when I tell them no

On a serious note, will one of you update us when emails go out for the new PS1 pi taki edition.
I check this discord way more than my email 😅

[upbeat gyro]

Finally I don’t have to get off the couch

[wary turret]

That was your chance to just call it “Mister”

No one needs to know it’s shameful birth name

[faint dune]

I kind of want to see if I can use shortcuts to make siri launch individual games via remote/zaparoo - but I haven’t looked into what (if anything) those apps expose to shortcuts

[wary turret]

Just throw nfc cards

[cinder crane]

Use Siri to activate a robotic arm that swipes the nfc card

[high umbra]

Brilliant. And you can use alexa to use the same arm to turn on and off light switches

I just leave my living room mister on all the time.

[wary turret]

As an alternative: https://a.co/d/hvmBM4S

Oh hold on: https://a.co/d/ifnTJE9

A Bob Ross shaped Clapper with a nightlight

And Bob Ross saying things

Glad we live in a 3 clap future

[high umbra]

Much cooler

How come this Bob Ross one isn't more expensive than the smart home stuff?

It talks too

[wary turret]

Because life isn’t fair

[high umbra]

Call me when Alexa comes in Bob Ross voice

[wary turret]

HOME/AWAY SETTING: Adjust for softer or louder claps. In AWAY setting, connected appliances will turn on with the detection of any sound.

[high umbra]

On that day, i will declare the Bob Ross clapper to be obsolete

[wary turret]

Nice, if a burglar breaks in you could scare them off with Sega Master System

[upbeat gyro]

Now. Since it’s all running through homeassistant I need the mister to turn on automatically when I take a controller off of its display base

Weight sensor? Hummm

[upbeat gyro]

Fixed.

[wary turret]

Now it can hold its head high

[crude kernel]

Wouldn't it be easier for a smart plug to sense when a device has been disconnected?

But I guess that would require a smart plug per controller, also I'm still not sure that it's possible that way.
I love thinking about different ways home assistant can be used. I love that you can auto lock deadbolts when your phone drops wifi. It can be really fun to come up with different combos

[sharp pulsar]

Zaparoo cards can run shortcuts

[upbeat gyro]

Yeah but my controllers don’t sit plugged in on their display stands. I was only half joking anyways…. Half

[wanton trench]

So I can have a... Bluetooth pairing zaparoo?

Or memtest?

[faint dune]

Ariel sent me an update all sticker

i feel like that's adjacent

[cinder crane]

Oh yeah? Zaparoo card to launch it?

[sharp pulsar]

I have a lightgun calibration card, steam cards, you can have a card that launches notepad, logs into your online banking, etc

Can’t really endorse that last one though

[dire merlin]

can you send me that last one

[sharp pulsar]

Best I can do is put you on my credit card as a secondary cardholder. DM your full address and SSN/SIN

[faint dune]

I have one that installs tailscale on your computer and connects to my tailnet. please tap

[cinder crane]

Huh

[tardy hornet]

Wish that PS5 anniversary controller wasn't scalped so hard....

[wanton trench]

Can you send me that one I'd love to check it out

I'm gonna make some for a friend and hide porn hub links in one random card

[dire merlin]

"hey a work event where they want us to show cool technology to our coworkers, I can show them this cool mister fpga thing"

[gentle remnant]

I had a friend ask to borrow money once. Going to date myself here... So I sent him a money order in the "For" section I wrote PORN in huge writing. it was a long time ago so it wasnt just PORN it was a certain type of porn. I got a huge laugh out ofit. Him not so much

[potent saddle]

I sent my daughter cash with venmo and put for mustache removal. lol. that will teach her for having transactions public.

[sharp pulsar]

Battle Garegga and Battle Bakraid not working for me via analog io — screen goes black instead of loading the core. Works fine via hdmi. Anyone else experience this?

[faint dune]

they haven't been updated for the 9.2 boards yet

should be this quarter sometime

[patent knoll]

Seems like the dev for the Raizing core games is making good progress too
https://bsky.app/profile/pr4m0d.pram0d.com/post/3lfs5td6tr22g

Pramod Somashekar (@pr4m0d.pram0d.com)

Let's just say I know a LOT more about the MiSTer during our framework creation in the past few weeks than I did during the past several years actually making cores for it. I think we can make some magic happen here! #CoinOpCollection

Bluesky · Jan 15, 2025, 4:12 PM

[digital estuary]

@patent knoll Is that Raizing core for games like Raizing's Bloody Roar 2 arcade? One of my favorite PCB's in my collection.

[dire merlin]

no, it's not

it's a core for the "toaplan" adjacent raizing games like garegga/bakraid etc

bloody roar 2 is sony ZN which is more like a playstation

[patent knoll]

Here's the existing cores github for some detailed info
https://github.com/psomashekar/Raizing_FPGA

[digital estuary]

Aw damn, Bloody Roar on the PS1 for now then.

[cinder crane]

Hooray for the Raizing core!

[faint dune]

I think you're gonna be preeeeety happy with it

[faint imp]

Dreamcast core wen

[cinder crane]

MiSTer is how I learned to appreciate shoot em up

[wary turret]

Have they called out any differences from how the core runs the games now? Never having played on real hardware I wouldn’t know what was wrong unless it was blatant like a glitched sprite

[faint dune]

It's all built within their framework now. So it supports all the modern stuff (including different aspect ratios - so you can have a real long batrider if you want). I think the core was already in ok shape (save for 9.2 io board support and random crashes) so this is just cleaning it up. Like grey did with jag

as I understand it, anyway

but Pram0d's tweet today is kind of exciting because it feels like maybe all this work has reignited his desire to work on mister shit

we will see. they don't usually talk about stuff until it's imminent now

I'm curious how their Tecmo 16 stuff will differ from JTs

[wary turret]

Is that for the ninja gaiden core?

Guess not

https://vgmrips.net/wiki/Tecmo_16

[faint dune]

Ninja Gaiden, Tecmo Knight, and Strato Fighter

[wary turret]

Oh hmm can’t find a good page about it

[faint dune]

I can't either

googlin'

yeah, nothing

[cinder crane]

The MiSTer PiSX

[dull gull]

Pissex, sounds like a rather yellow place in England

[vagrant goblet]

it must use Sony's proprietary PISSER technology...

[cinder crane]

lol, I forgot who said it but marketing teams really need to employ a teenage kid to run their acronyms by

like I’m not even joking

[vagrant goblet]

I concur... they need to hire a sullen 16 year old boy to sit in marketing meetings

if they start Butthead laughing, cross out the term and start from scratch

[oblique drum]

Any word on when batch 3 will ship?

[late rover]

I haven't been following this for a while but are people still having ram issues on mister boards?

Specifically on psx? I'm getting some garbled text and graphics playing chrono cross on mine.

[glad cove]

Hey, wanted to follow up here... Any idea if Sinden will ever be part of update_all/ MiSTer main? I asked this in the Sinden Discord and they told me to ask here. I too bought TWO Sindens early on and have literally never used them once because I've heard about what a pain it is getting them working correctly on MiSTer

[stray shore]

Known workarounds: Turn on 24-bit Rendering or Texture Filter

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/PSX_MiSTer/issues/244

[late rover]

I thought about googling around but for some reason figured it would be the ram anyway and didn't bother. Thanks!

Already had 24-bit rendering on. Turning texture filtering on seemed to do the trick.

[wary turret]

there's some scripts to enable them for forked cores and choose accuracy based on system load, think that's as good as it gets

and probably as good as it will get since they mandate the host has to do the white border drawing and computer vision thus forking

other guns that act more like a mouse or joystick and do the position calc on the gun are a better design for mister since they don't put requirements on the host

better design in general. Really they should offload that junk onto something in the gun, that must be possible by now. The white border would still be a problem though thus the core forks

can one of those fancy scalers like morph or tink add the border?

[cinder crane]

Is MiSTer Pi pronounced “pie” or “pee”?

[dull gull]

The former

π

[cinder crane]

This was your chance, and you resorted to honesty???

[dull gull]

Of course. I know Mister Pee personally

[cinder crane]

I owned a mister pee for two days

But I gave it away 😥

It’s in a better home now 😭

[civic badge]

Honestly I have no idea. That said, I built a custom installer that creates MGLs and customizes mister.ini to use the custom Sinden mister main only for the Sinden cores. Im out of town at the moment, but when I get back next week Ill send you a link

As far as I can tell, Sinden on the MiSTer is barely supported and mostly by the four or five of us that bought one for use on MiSTer

[cloud estuary]

i think you're confusing yourself with Master P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSHAfzU5ks

[tardy hornet]

been a hot moment but was there ever anything found to address this?

[faint dune]

not that I know. I will be honest, I didn’t look to see if it had been filed or if it is just a quirk of the system

[winged summit]

should I have received a level shifter with the mister pi batch 2 turbo pack? or only the snes adapter? I always get confused with which things uses level shifter and which ones don´t

AH, fuck, I got it, the wrapping paper is so strange with all those 3d cuts it got totally hidden there lol

[cinder crane]

Yeah same thing happened to me lol. Really cool packing paper, haven’t seen it before.

[winged summit]

Yeah, it is quite cool, looks really protective yet being quite light

[sharp pulsar]

You can get machines that make it from regular paper or even cardboard

[faint imp]

When is batch 3 shipping again?

[shrewd dust]

Seems like vaguely "january/february" https://www.reddit.com/r/MiSTerFPGA/comments/1i7dxtp/mister_pi_batch_3_shipping/

[winged fable]

https://tenor.com/view/peewee-peewees-playhouse-terry-dayum-daaaamn-gif-21051798

[sick rapids]

MiSTer Pi batch 3 is the same as before or the new MiSTER Pi v1.6 with BGA SDRAM?

[faint dune]

some of it will be 1.6

[gentle remnant]

that would be great. I dont know whether to wait or get both.

anyone know how many usb are on the super statin?

[limber token]

Iirc the base has 3 ports and the expansion will have 4 ports.

[gentle remnant]

great thatll work.

ty

[alpine moth]

any recommendations for quieter fans for the MiSTer pi? as much as i love it, the fan is sometimes a bit annoying

[oblique drum]

You can set the jumper on the io board to 3.3v instead of 5v to have it run more silently.

[oblique drum]

I think @faint dune made a nice picture with the jumper in question.

Speak of the devil...

[alpine moth]

ah, good to know

because it's whining quite a bit when running on full blast, guess i have to try taking it apart again

[faint dune]

yeah, swap that jumper and you'll be a lot happier

I don't hear mine at all anymore

[delicate hazel]

My plan is to replace it with a Noctua fan

[alpine moth]

thanks for the help ❤️

[oblique drum]

What's the shipping time on the pi, approximately? Are we speaking days or weeks? Really waiting for my batch 3.

[alpine moth]

i think for me it was 1.5-2 weeks from the point i got my shipping notification, which came in pretty late

for batch 2

though i'M not 100% sure anymore

[delicate hazel]

Yeah I think mine was a week and a half from ordering batch 2 at 1am when it dropped

[oblique drum]

So worst case it'll be here mid of march, hopefully.

Thank's y'all.

[dire kindle]

About the same for me in the uk, I got the PayPal batch and used the cheaper shipping option.

[faint dune]

I ordered batch 2 on the 22nd of Nov. It was delivered on the 27th (I am outside one of the import hubs in chicago, though - so once its in the states it only takes a day to get to me)

I ordered my batch 1 on the 7th of sept and it delivered on the 18th (but I don't think he had anyone working for him at that point)

[oblique drum]

I'm in europe and it's actually not for me but I want to see my stupid friends face when I give it to him. 😅

[alpine moth]

okay, gonna take my mister apart now, let's hope i don't break everything 😝

urgh

nvm. i give up 🙈 i forgot about that little board above that switch and am not up to fully disassembling that thing rn

[oblique drum]

You should be able to just pull it out. Gently though.

[faint dune]

Yeah, just pull straight up

Also, the jumper is only on batch 2 mister pis.

Batch one requires soldering 🙅‍♂️

[tardy hornet]

weak pullout game

[hallow plaza]

Anyone has mt32 pi lite with the acrylic case and can comment whether the connector can SNAC connector can plug in deep enough without having to take off the side of mister pi case?

[tardy hornet]

Yes...but you'll need to gap the top to fit it

[hallow plaza]

Gap the top - as in cutting a bit off the top plate from mister pi case? What was bumping into it? The micro usb from the pi zero 2 board?

I always see these usb and hdmi ports on the pi board, they are unused in this set up, right?

[tardy hornet]

Space it out... Put washers... Something to make the top 1mm higher roughly

Wish taki would have made the case just 1mm higher at the top lol

Outside of that it works fine

[hallow plaza]

Does the pi lite blocks the usb ports?

That looks like the variant being sold on ultimate mister shop, how long did the shipping take?

I guess have to ask if you are in US

[tardy hornet]

I am in the US and yes it is ultimatemister variant

It doesn't block the ports (infact the wifi adapter is plugged in right below it)

as for time..... i dont recall.... i ordered it in november and i think it took 2-3 weeks?

[stray shore]

So, you can see with some dongles.

[hallow plaza]

I see, is that with the normal $17 shipping? There is a more expensive on that double the price…

[stray shore]

MT32-pi lite rev.2 WHITE with Raspberry Pi

[hallow plaza]

Nice, good to see the usb ports are unblocked. I have a 90 degree angle adaptor there for wifi dongle, so have to move it to the other side.

[stray shore]

I have a version 1, since I have it for tests since 3-4 years.

And it works fantastic, on the X68000 core and the DOS games.

[hallow plaza]

right, no buttons. Buttons are not really needed anyway.

[stray shore]

I don't need them.

[hallow plaza]

@stray shore - you dont have any washer pushing up your top pi case plate. Did you run into any problem plugging the mt32 lite all the way in?

[stray shore]

I've never tried until now, I'm testing and checking right away.

The top of the MT32Pi PCB goes just under the line of the top of the Mister PI.
It fits just right.

[hallow plaza]

Nice, looks like it will fit or can fir with a little adjustment. Trying to do some homework before buying since it’s going to take a long time and probably impossible to return.

[stray shore]

You're right, it's not completely inserted, maybe missing 1mm.

I need to play with it.

[hallow plaza]

Yeah, that seems to be a common problem.

[alpine moth]

tried that, wouldn't move, but i also couldn't get a proper grip on it either

[stray shore]

I had to remove the side of the case for moving it and access to the jumper after that.

Just be sure to to clip it completely with the top of the case before screwing once more the top.

[faint imp]

https://crkv5gkt8rjba5uf-71371456535.shopifypreview.com/pages?preview_key=5d256b198bcba522881f2ec712b6c590

Nice selection of ports 😍

[gritty herald]

So unless I’m seeing that wrong, there is no user accessible user IO port for other SNAC adapters or mt32 pi?

So just ps1 ports on the front

Unless that’s on the dock

[faint imp]

Is it possible to use mt32pi + snac adapters?

[delicate hazel]

I think you might be correct there.

[tardy hornet]

no

[faint imp]

So it makes sense not having user io then

[delicate hazel]

Any difference between that mt32 pi and like a normal one? (pi 3 + hat)

[faint imp]

Snac is already occupied by native psx and mc ports

[tardy hornet]

you mean a mt32pi lite vs the pi3+ mt32hat?

[delicate hazel]

Yeah sorry. I didnt know it was called a lite

[tardy hornet]

really just that the lite is sidecar

[delicate hazel]

The lite one looks amazing, and quite neat really.

No loose cables or anything.

[tardy hornet]

you could say maybe more ram? but not really a problem ive run into

[delicate hazel]

Ah i see, thank you 🙂

[tardy hornet]

yea no worries about cables since it just plugs straight into the user port

[stray shore]

No differences in functions and audio quality.

Just, no screen.

[tardy hornet]

^

[delicate hazel]

Sweet, If i was to buy one il probably get the lite then.

[tardy hornet]

i dont really care about the screen since you can technically display the screen on....the screen as an overlay if you really need it

[delicate hazel]

Im aiming to get a replacement noctua fan, maybe that lite mt32pi, gameboy link snac adapter and a 2nd taki ram

But wont be for a while

[tardy hornet]

ive used it a couple time to show what soundfont im loading but otherwise meh

[hallow plaza]

So the osd could show the lcd content right? But can you customize the size and location?

It always on top left on all video and looks stretched

[tardy hornet]

if there is im unaware

but i mostly just use it to let me know what soundfont is loading if im in fluidsynth mode

[stray shore]

Not having a user port on the R² One (sorry can't named it otherwise).
Won't be a problem for the target audience, that will be more for people wanting a consolized version of the system.

[tardy hornet]

yea.... ive been pretty happy with the 8bitdo stuff and i do have actual ps1 controllers too

so im okay with this lol

[delicate hazel]

Ultimate 2c is my recommendation. 5ms latency wireless, £25 and hall effect sticks and triggers.

[tardy hornet]

i really wish they made an updated pro 2

i love my pro 2

[delicate hazel]

I'm still undecided on a 6 button controller. The M30 has been reported to have 10ms+ of latency. Should be fine but,

[stray shore]

We're getting old, 10ms is not so much. 😏

[delicate hazel]

Ah

[stray shore]

2.4GHz M30 should be faster if I remember well.

[delicate hazel]

I've got an older M30. Micro usb, but id have to use it wired. I brought it to use with my mega sg

[stray shore]

Anyway, it's my favorite all-rounder on the system since 3-4 years.

[delicate hazel]

I'm probably overthinking on the lag to be fair.

[tardy hornet]

i love the m30

as well as the pce one

have both

[delicate hazel]

It's why I'm slightly put off from 8bitdos arcade stick.

As that can be used wireless, but I think iirc, it was also listed at 10ms+

[stray shore]

I'm using also the Neo Geo CD one, so great on Neo Geo games.

[tardy hornet]

neogeo one is next for me

[stray shore]

Neo Turf Masters with it, it's chief's kiss.

[tardy hornet]

but after i get money

cause uh

man so much stuff has happened this year

and its only january

[delicate hazel]

I get that feeling

Lots of outgoings

[stray shore]

I need a second one for my friends or my wife, they tested it the other day, and she said : "Go get another one, ASAP"

[delicate hazel]

I hyper focus on different projects. Which means I have a lot of unfinished projects that I need to spend money on.

[tardy hornet]

i keep saying i wont work on a project

and somehow it keeps bringing me back in

lol

[stray shore]

I get that feeling too.

[tardy hornet]

"after this release im not touching this ever again"

3 months later

"i think i can optimize this...."

[delicate hazel]

Currently in the midst of building a server. Then for some reason a week later I'm looking at custom keyboards

Madness

And now I'm thinking. "I could do with a soldering iron and learn how to solder"

[tardy hornet]

i just started to get back into it too and now im looking at making the core of this build for both games and im not looking forward to it

on the flip side ive optimized file loading so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[digital estuary]

FINALLY got my mini-jewels in for my FWWWN designed MiSTer Pi FPGA case today! This thing looks SO SO amazing!

[upbeat gyro]

My only feedback on case fitment overall to @lyric gull would be a lip on the bottom half that the top half sits on

[faint dune]

where is the DD drive

[digital estuary]

Didn't want it to keep it low-profile and im not using zaparoo

[cinder crane]

That’s a cool looking 3DO console

[digital estuary]

Idk what you are smoking but thats clearly a sega dreamcast

[cinder crane]

It’s really slick, very nice case

[quasi stirrup]

That looks amazing! Which controller do you have, btw?

[lyric gull]

I hope Taki leaves some bugs in the SuperStation one so that we all get to play Memtest or some niche games again.

[sharp pulsar]

We all? I prefer my mister without hardwired PSX SNAC ☺️

[delicate hazel]

RE2 but this time on the PSX core

With an RE2 disc

[strong falcon]

💀

[winged summit]

I love the amount of i/o it has, but lavk of snac is a stopper for me, got too attached to mt32pi. But I have until the 30th to try to figure out if a cable from psx connector to the mt32pi could do the job (probably with some 7v to 5v reduction as I suppose they have some booster for the rumble)

Also, I’ll love to heard about hdmi cec

[digital estuary]

Its the "Saffun" n64 controller everyone talks about on this discord. Pretty badass budget option. https://amzn.to/3Cp6OU4

[quasi stirrup]

Excellent, thanks.

[cinder crane]

It has some issues but I do like it

[quasi stirrup]

It's looking hard to find outside the US, so, back to the original controller for me, I guess 😛

[cinder crane]

Saffun is just a name the community landed on for identifying the controllers but they are clones and there are a ton of identical clones out there by different companies.

If there’s a controller that goes by a different name but looks like a Saffun, it’s the same exact controller.

My guess is, whoever made the mold for Nintendo’s NSO controller sold the manufacturing plans to other companies and they’re all pumping them out. Reselling manufacturing molds and plans can happen in Chinese manufacturing, hence all the bootlegs.

[digital estuary]

Just look up wireless n64 controller on ebay youll find one that looks like it

[wanton trench]

How do you get the jewel and the light inserts made

Not sure everybody saw this but here's a better picture of the super dock or whatever it's being called

[digital estuary]

Got the light pipes with clear resin and case all printed from JLCPCB. It was like $37 shipped. Had the jewel made from this person. They are slow, but cheap and no minimum order. https://www.etsy.com/listing/1169662685/custom-doming-stickers-pins-pins-and

[wanton trench]

Awesome

[sacred flint]

some of this design will be a needlessly expensive couple of molds

they will likely need slides in the molds which can increase the price a lot

[wanton trench]

say what now

[sacred flint]

namely all of the usb port slots

https://www.pfa-inc.com/what-is-an-injection-mold-slide/

the snac psx controller ports and all of the usb ports will need some kind of slide design

[wanton trench]

Ahh I think I get what you mean

[sacred flint]

if you look at the animation from taht site

look at how it slides into where the yellow is and leaves some gaps open

designing and milling/edm'ing out a mold that needs slides can raise costs a lot, but in china it's probably just a few thousand bucks more

[wanton trench]

yeah I think I actually understand that's pretty cool

[sacred flint]

in this hobby space if someone even gets to the economy of scale to justify molding (easier in china since it's dramatically cheaper to mold there), usually you design all of the ports to be at the intersection of the top and bottom half of the housing

so you don't have to do slides

the mold/molds to do what taki is wanting to do... probably would need at least 2 molds minimum and that would be pushing it because if you try to make too many components at once in it, you are going to run into potential flow issues

you've got...

1. r2one housing top
2. r2one housing bottom
3. dock housing top
4. dock housing bottom
5. power button and menu button (possibly reversible design)
6. composite cover
7. toslink cover
8. 2x memory card covers

this is pretty complex already but not too complex for chinese mold designers and molders, piece of cake for them

[wanton trench]

Yeah I know something about this since I design for 3d printing and you similarly don't want to have supports in the middle of the model when possible

[sacred flint]

yup, it's a similar concept sorta

[onyx trout]

Hey all, have a question and I'm not sure it's unique to the Pi board or not. Building a set up with the Mister Pi that I've had for a while and I'm finally getting around to adding a reset button to the case. In my old build with the De-10 nano I swore I just wired to ground and pin 17 on GPIO to make this work. I can't seem to get reset working on the Mister Pi. There should be nothing unique about the GPIO header and reset functions on this board, right?

[patent knoll]

do you have the Analog IO board installed? You can use it's header pins. That worked fine for me

[onyx trout]

Oh, good idea, I have the board, but it's fan only. I do have another AV board I can steal from a different project. Do you have the pinout for those connectors? I assume they provide LED and the user, reset, menu buttons on the larger header?

[patent knoll]

yeah - its the same as the buttons and LEDs on the board. Here is the schematic for the 6.1 board, but the headers are still the same:
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Hardware_MiSTer/blob/master/releases/iobrd_6.1.pdf

look in the top left area

[onyx trout]

This is helpful, thanks. I probably have one of those sized molex too I can use to make it easier than GPIO

[limber token]

The header is the same, but on the newer boards there must be the chip populated on the other side. To save io pins, the design and work is different. A pure fan only board of the new design will not work for this.

[onyx trout]

I didn't assume the fan only would work. I have another V1.2 board I'll swap and try this out with

[limpid lodge]

The fan only board DOES work if you bridge two pins to get it detected as an analog board.. see https://sh.reddit.com/r/MiSTerFPGA/comments/1fpvyk3/comment/lpay57i/ my comment there

[onyx trout]

This is great info, thanks

[onyx trout]

So if I'm reading this correctly, this might be why direct GPIO doesn't work as I was testing it. Those pins only send those signals if the system believes an AV board is attached? So I could bridge 10+12 and then just use GPIO to send the led and button signals to my front panel.

[sacred flint]

Reminder that RetroRemake offers support for their products https://retroremake.co/policies/contact-information

[sacred flint]

I try not to link other discords very often, an influx of like 1000 users to a discord can be overwhelming sometimes.

[onyx trout]

Gotcha, perhaps mention it exists, for those that prefer Discord as a platform for these types of questions. I just think those emails on the page you linked are basically for sales support, he does not seem to have many technical support reps answering those.

[faint dune]

Weird that it's not on the contact page

[sacred flint]

lol @cursive crypt with the cryptobro variant gif

[delicate hazel]

To be fair if it's anything hardware related and not mister related. Id just send the link myself.

[faint dune]

dude they are EVERYWHERE. giffing used to be easy - now you have to dodge so much bullshit

[cursive crypt]

Can't see what the GIF is in the preview window, after it cycled I had no idea what those terms were 🙂

[sacred flint]

lol

[cursive crypt]

I was actually looking for the other "here they come" gif but it didn't come up

this one, but if GIF format

[faint dune]

images you can hear

[faint imp]

In stock NOW!

[faint dune]

must mean they are shipping soon

[solid stratus]

And sold out 🙂

Either an accidental release or they really did go quick. I'm leaning to the former

[faint dune]

likely. or they got their shipment in and had a couple of extras

[pure swallow]

Been having fun with it for weeks now, recent Mister Pi User, just now today.
I don't have any audio at all anymore.|
Do any of you know what that issue could be?
Both HDMI and Jack don't work anymore

[faint imp]

Your global volume is probably muted

[pure swallow]

How can I change it?

[faint imp]

In the core OSD menu, press left and adjust the volumes

[pure swallow]

Oh my goodness

I am so stupid

You are a life saver

[faint imp]

Everyone has been there already 🤣

Have fun!

[pure swallow]

That is what I get for fiddeling the stick randomly x3

Thank You again!

[zinc spoke]

I definitely had that happen when I wasn't getting video output on a core on my CRT. I figured it out on my own, though. Somehow. 😛

[unreal sonnet]

does the analog audio port still work with a dual ram setup? asking for a friend lol

[tardy hornet]

no

[faint dune]

I belies toslink audio still works, but not analog. I’d have to double check that though

[quasi stirrup]

That's what I found. I've a Mister Pi, dual SRAM, and only Toslink works for me.

[sharp pulsar]

Toslink is the superior choice

[quasi stirrup]

There are audio people who'd crucify not agree with you about that choice 😛

[faint dune]

thanks for confirming Miker. I assumed that was the case because it's a digital signal. No analog anything without the 9.2 AV mezzanine

[sharp pulsar]

My opinion is only valid in the case of the mister pi 😇

[faint dune]

It’s the better choice on 9.2 boards in general

[quasi stirrup]

Nah, I think we should take a hard line. Better on AV 9.2, therefore, better everywhere.. 🤡

[tardy hornet]

@faint dune on another note looks like I'm joining the reflex adapt gang lol

[faint dune]

Welcome aboard. I just ordered my second since they were on sale

[tardy hornet]

Yea I ordered cause I saw they were on sale

Shame the N64 adapter was sold out

[faint dune]

Pork really boned me yesterday. I was like “oh, reflexes are on sale, I should go take a look…..oh and io boards?….oh I have been meaning to get a saturn AV cable……should probably get another jaguar cable…”

[tardy hornet]

Figured the reflex adapt will pair well with the SSOne once that comes in

Oh the Saturn av cables were on sale?

[faint dune]

yeah, that’s a good solution for that single USB

no, they were not, but I have been meaning to pick one up

[tardy hornet]

As I was thinking about grabbing the svideo one and totally forgot to grab it

[faint dune]

yeah, that’s what has happened the last few times I have ordered from MA. there is always something I forget to grab, so you have to wait until you find 2 or 3 more things to save on shipping. and this time it was everything

not to mention that he had a goddamned X68000 in the garage sale (that was sold) that put me down a long rabbit hole because I covet that thing

so now I’m building a “pc” mister because I need another project, I guess

[tardy hornet]

All I ordered is the reflex and Wii classic adapter since I have the mini classic controllers lol

X68000 and PC98

The 2 units I'd want but never will get lol

Now the real question... Do I use original N64 controllers or do I grab a tribute 64....

I know people also mention the brawler

[faint dune]

depends on if you want to pull them apart. 30 years of unmitigated stick drift

I’m waiting on the 8bitdo one

[tardy hornet]

Ironically reflex adapt + Wii classic adapter was cheaper than a mayflash

Lol

[faint dune]

the adapt is so cool

[tardy hornet]

maybe MA can do a 10 pack like bliss

[faint dune]

I wish the adapters were on sale

[tardy hornet]

One day

Only adapters I can think of grabbing are N64, NeoGeo, Jaguar, Saturn(?)... Maybe GameCube

[high umbra]

Welcome! Reflex adapt is awesome. Ordered my second one.

[tardy hornet]

I'm guessing everyone ordering a second because 2P/4P?

[faint dune]

ordered my second one because 1st mister/2nd mister :p

[high umbra]

I might just leave more adapters plugged in so I can switch easily

Yeah or for the second mister

We'll find out

[tardy hornet]

I remember seeing something about a 4p reflex adapt cable for n64?

Do we know when or if that's still in the cards

Or maybe I'm confusing it with discussion around the snax64... Been a while

[faint dune]

might have been snax

I feel like the adapt only supports 2p per adapter (and sometimes only 1p)

[cursive crypt]

https://misteraddons.com/products/snax64?srsltid=AfmBOoofydv0DiDbv04ELDxU82dJ7sAnabjY4YcN5xtkej0R1SIMksZG

[gentle remnant]

happened to me too before 😉

[pure swallow]

Yeah, is quite a small silly thing :3

[gentle remnant]

mine was because the SAM turns the volume off by default and when i clicked a game it didnt come back on.

[pure swallow]

Really? Interesting

[gentle remnant]

if youre not using SAM try it . its great

just be aware that you gotta fix the volume or set it in the settings

[pure swallow]

How to use SAM?

[gentle remnant]

its in the updates, and then in the scripts. super attract mode. heres hte docs

https://github.com/mrchrisster/MiSTer_SAM

[pure swallow]

Oh wow, that's super cool!

Thank you!!!

[gentle remnant]

why does it appear that hardlinks are not allowed in MiSTer or am I missing something?

/media/fat/_Arcade/_alternatives/_Gauntlet# ln 'Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6).mra' /media/fat/_Arcade/ ln: failed to create hard link '/media/fat/_Arcade/Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6).mra' => 'Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6).mra': Operation not permitted /media/fat/_Arcade/_alternatives/_Gauntlet# sudo !! sudo ln 'Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6).mra' /media/fat/_Arcade/ ln: failed to create hard link '/media/fat/_Arcade/Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6).mra' => 'Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6).mra': Operation not permitted

[dire merlin]

exfat doesn't support hardlinks

[gentle remnant]

well derpdy der.... I knew it was somethign stupid, TY!

[dire merlin]

mister has a hack so it'll support symlinks, tho

[gentle remnant]

meh its only a few kb. I was just dinking aroujnd thanks.

but now you have my interest

another one. Why does a "cores" directory keep getting made in my _favorites folder and its subfolders as well?

filled with a lot of cores. but Ive only added a handful of favorites

and only 2 in the subfolder

213 rpf files in both locations.

[sacred flint]

What made your favorites folder?

[gentle remnant]

the favorites app of course. 🙂 But why all the cores in two spots? I deleted the dir but it came back. Um....I also used SAM to add Favorites

but im having hit and miss luck with that

[oblique drum]

Any news about batch3 shipping?

[faint imp]

After Chinese holidays that seems to take 3 months

I need a Chinese holiday in my life now

[oblique drum]

And a succulent, Chinese meal, per chance?

[shrewd dust]

This is democracy manifest!

[keen chasm]

I see you know your judo well!

[oblique drum]

Are you waiting to receive my limb penis?

[shrewd dust]

Get your hand off my penis!

[delicate hazel]

Anyone tried the batch 2 level shifter with other Snac devices? Not sure if I can use it on the GB link Snac adapter

[tardy hornet]

speaking of kiwitata... saw this and wondered if these were alright... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097D8Y6ML?th=1

obviously not a traditional n64 controller but $20 for a 2 pack seemed alright lol

[digital estuary]

I mean, i wouldn't expect much quality but im sure they would work

[gentle remnant]

you know what i was wondering. HAs anyone taken one of those crappy clones. (not the one you shared) You know the ones Im talking about. dirt cheap look like they took a mold of an OG n64 controller. Like this one. 2 - $29.99

https://a.co/d/j0wTj36

I have one I bought for my Rpi so long ago. OHHHHH its HOT garbage. But it matches my legit one as far as I can tell.

So Im sure someone has but would the kit from 8bitdo. fit in that?
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-mod-kit-for-original-n64-controller

Pretty expensive now that i add it up but ...

[tardy hornet]

i actually have a few OG controllers but

they really need a good restore

[gentle remnant]

me too but i dont want to butcher them

[tardy hornet]

new rubbers and only 1 has a okay joystick

[gentle remnant]

stick flops around like its broken in half haha

[tardy hornet]

sadly to get a replacement joystick and new rubbers i think id be in it $30 lol

[gentle remnant]

i had to put some hot glue in that cheap clone to fill a dead spot. it goes too far and causes it to not move

[tardy hornet]

which gets you near that high quality 3rd party alternatives lol

[gentle remnant]

i think that 8bitdo has great feedback

but im not too into n64

[tardy hornet]

i have been thinking about it though

getting the 8bitdo joystick and a set of new rubbers

[tardy hornet]

honestly my gaming history is gap'd pretty wide lol

i went from amiga/nes....to my next console being xbox

so i missed out everything inbetween

[gentle remnant]

ive read through the mister docs like 3 times. Do you happen to know if there is a way to take a screenshot with filters applied?

[tardy hornet]

ive not had much luck with screenshoting on mister

best solution ive had in regards to screenshots with filters applied was to take from my HDMI capture

[gentle remnant]

its easy to scren shot but it never has filters applied.

use the remote app its fool proof. or a keyboard

[tardy hornet]

i tried both

some cores just wouldnt want to screenshot

lol

[gentle remnant]

i didnt like the blocky 3d so i skipped over all that untill about ps3

[tardy hornet]

i would press the button on the remote app and just nothing would happen

[gentle remnant]

i cant see very well and that blocky 3d was terrible

[tardy hornet]

yea but i mean i played NES

all the way till i got an xbox

[gentle remnant]

nes was fine

me too SNES till like 2016 hahahahahaa!!!!!

[tardy hornet]

imagine everyone talking about things like midnight club or forza or gran turismo

and im like

[gentle remnant]

oh some wii knot much

[tardy hornet]

RAD RACER!

[gentle remnant]

with crappy 3d glasses was still btr than n64

[tardy hornet]

ngl i think i played way too much marble madness

lol

[gentle remnant]

thats one i owned

no idea where i got it tho

[tardy hornet]

i played it with the "advanced" controller... arcade looking one

[gentle remnant]

i ad that too the nes advantage

i beat zelda 2 with it

[tardy hornet]

i had a power glove too but uh

gonna be honest here

power glove

pretty atrocious

lol

[gentle remnant]

did you have the power pad that seemed to attract cats to pee on it too. even at peoples houses that didnt own a cat?

[tardy hornet]

more of a conversation piece than actual use

[gentle remnant]

my buddy had rob. what a POS that was too

[tardy hornet]

wanted a rob.... never could afford one

sadly i had to eventually get rid of all my NES stuff

which was a lot

dont want to think how much its worth these days

iirc i sold it along with like 40-50 games with boxes/sleves/manuals and a good assortment of controllers for like

$250

lol

[gentle remnant]

wow

[tardy hornet]

@faint dune got my reflex adapt

love it

[faint dune]

Lol, I just tested every jaguar game with mine.

I kind of want to see if I can make a little holster for it on the front of the mister. Get a right angled C to A adapter for it

it would cover the ethernet port but, on this mister, it doesn't matter because I'm using ethernet

[tardy hornet]

ill probably order more adapters in the future

itll be interesting to see if taki implements sanc bypass for the ssone

[faint dune]

yeah. I guess i don't see the need for snac now (unless I need to get weird with something like the jog con). the adapt is like a few ms different lag wise

[tardy hornet]

yea

[gentle remnant]

i have one and like it as well

[cinder crane]

Sorry but as a gaming Adonis those few ms is the difference between a world record in Club Drive and sitting on the sidelines.

[faint dune]

Do u even insert bruh

[faint dune]

Where is ur god now

[cinder crane]

DAMNIT I think I bought it

I hope I did

I love that game

[faint dune]

I need something to store these in

I need a bespoke atari jaguar insert holder

[patent knoll]

Rolodex (or fr maybe just a flashcard box?)

[faint dune]

Yeah. I am gonna see if I can find an stl and then put in pegs to hold them in place

[faint dune]

perfect.

[cinder crane]

LOL

[gentle remnant]

that looks like the most uncomfortable controller. why not glue a cup holder to it. maybe an ashtray.

[faint dune]

Don’t be jealous of my versatility

[gentle remnant]

how much is the keypad used

[faint dune]

more than you would like

[gentle remnant]

at least a person can still get the instruction manuals and such i suppose

[faint dune]

yeah, it’s a real bummer because you don’t usually need all the keys, but I would say the vast majority of the games use 3-6 keys

like you can’t switch weapons or strafe in AVP without the keys

if you don’t have an original controller, you’d basically have to do per-game bindings

[tardy hornet]

Man those Atari Jaguar controllers are kinda expensive...

[faint dune]

they were like 50 when I got mine. New old stock https://www.ebay.com/itm/130887512744

not the seller I bought mine from (I don’t think) but the same deal

[tardy hornet]

...

huh

[cinder crane]

Be glad you're not collecting for the Jaguar, hooooo boy

[faint imp]

Are we any closer to the 6-month long Chinese holiday’s end?

Mega Packs wen

[faint imp]

It looked like 6 months. Geez!

[oblique drum]

That's a lot of succulent chinese meals. Hopefully taki will be energized from them and ship the entire batch 3 in one day. 😭

[oblique drum]

Any word from taki? Batch 3 should ship this week if it's keeping the February date.

[faint dune]

there was a tweet that said that it was going to ship out split between feb and march

so it must be this week….

[winged fable]

Was there any confirmation on people from the states needing to pay an additional tax for the batch 3 mister?

[shrewd dust]

At the moment the tariffs have been postponed for packages worth $800 or less https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y7edy35pvo

His revision to the order on Friday said tariff-free treatment for packages from China worth less than $800 would remain in place until "adequate systems are in place to fully and expediently process and collect tariff revenue".

[faint dune]

yeah, analogue and taki will likely be ok?

probably?

god knows though, we are on the dumbest timeline

[winged fable]

swag

[sharp pulsar]

Yeah if the Mpi was shipping from Canada, an enemy of the USA, there would be a 25% tariff. But since it’s coming from China, a geopolitical ally, no tariff

[marble narwhal]

The China tariff starts on the 4th.

[faint dune]

but not for anything under 800, yeah?

[cinder trout]

I believe that was the case, yeah

[wary turret]

Mexico and Canada starts

[cinder trout]

I say that, but then I'll get slapped with a $26.45 tariff on the $2 SD2SP2 I ordered for my GC last week

[wary turret]

Yeah you never know when Trump will suddenly enact some new petty revenge policy in the middle of a shipment

[cinder trout]

right

[faint dune]

Trump Elon

[wary turret]

feet sucking intensifies

[faint dune]

You walk into the room and your ears pop

[upbeat gyro]

I just ordered some stuff I’ve been dragging my feet on from Canada. And china I guess too

[upbeat gyro]

So glad I work for a global shipping/logistics company. I’m sure this orange buffoons trade war will help my future employment

[faint imp]

Take my money orange guy… batch 3 wen!!!!

[faint dune]

THE TWEETS TELL US NOTHING

THEY HAVE ABANDONED US

[oblique drum]

It's march! This is not what we agreed upon, Taki!

[faint imp]

Gotta consult the Tweets

[faint dune]

#1333727892298928230 message

[oblique drum]

I need it until the April 15th.

[high umbra]

Warning please before i accidentally join new servers

[faint dune]

Oh sorry, I thought it said unknown server or whatever. Apologies!

[dire merlin]

I don't know what it does on mobile, but on desktop you get a popup that asks if you want to join the server or just 'preview' it

[high umbra]

Oh i guess it was a preview but it looked like i was there. But looks like it was a Ghost of Christmas Present type of viewing.

[faint dune]

discord jump scares

[oblique drum]

Biggest scare is mister pi delay.

[faint imp]

Chinese Holidays end wen

Hopefully we don’t see Taki on a lambo any sooner

[oblique drum]

When taki binged through that preorder money and remembers he actually has to get some work done before he can sell the next batch.

[winged fable]

Lmfaoo

[alpine moth]

i'm trying to take off that little board to make the fan quieter... is it really snug on there or am i missing something. i'm not really getting it off

it's not budging

maybe i should remove the fan for a better grip

[faint dune]

grab it here and here and then gently rock it back and forth (north to south on the picture)

it is on there snug, but it will come off. Thats there the main connection point is, so you just need to get it to budge there

[alpine moth]

i'll trt that, also found out, i'd have to disassamble it completelt to remove the fan

[faint dune]

yeah

the nuts for the fan are under the board

[alpine moth]

...whoch i might have to do anyway, since i can't retighten the screws, fuck

[faint dune]

i did the exact same things

sorry I couldn't wave you off :/

is this a batch 1 or batch 2 mister pi?

[alpine moth]

all good, mistakes are there to be learned from

2

[faint dune]

ok good. batch 1 doesn't have the fan jumper

[alpine moth]

also just realiwed my little tool box has a bit to removw those standoffs with

luckily

...i should've just accepted it being loud

[faint dune]

nah, this will be good because you'll see how easy it is to pull apart and then put back together

better to not have it be a black box

[alpine moth]

i'm bad at pulling things apart and putting them together xD

[faint dune]

practice makes...better?

[alpine moth]

alqays afraid i'll damage things

and i say that having built multiple pcs for friends and family

[faint dune]

those GPIO pins are pretty sturdy. I have to use pliers sometimes to get the ram to come off

[alpine moth]

okay, i got it off

i just have to pull that thing off and shift it to the left, right?

the one next to the fan header

[faint dune]

yup

[alpine moth]

connector or whayever

[faint dune]

this is what it will look like on quiet mode

[alpine moth]

did that, thanks again

i didn't get any of the handiwork skills my parents have, but i somewhat have technical knowhow. when i built my sister's pc early last years i had a bit of a mental breakdown when i bent the pins of the usb3 header on her motherboard

😅

my father all calm grabbed a magnification glass, a flat screw driver and fixed it

[faint dune]

You’re lucky, my dad would have tried and made it worse :p

[alpine moth]

imean, i proclaimed the board "dead" at this point so he might as well try 😅 and it worked out, luckily

i still continued building the next day because i just couldn't at this point

[faint dune]

to be fair to my dad, a buddy and me were having a sleepover when I was in junior high, and we were trying to get a game to run on his dad's PC. we were copying and deleting the game from the hard drive and, on one attempt, we accidently did del *.* in the c: drive root. I frantically called my dad at 2 in the morning and he walked me through how to undelete stuff

[alpine moth]

eep

😅

my parents don't really know anything about computers

so i'm always the girl to fix tech stuff

but in return my dad built my first arcade stick with me, so that's that

patient is alive, surgery was a success

there's still a little bit of fan noise, but it shouldn't be noticable at all during gameplay

i wonder is it worth to go for a noctua fan then...

what kind of fan is that exactly @faint dune

[faint dune]

It’s a noctua that’s been modded. I got it from Greg at laserbear https://www.laserbear.net/products/noctua-nf-a4x10-5v-bulk-packaging?_pos=1&_sid=4da9143f5&_ss=r&variant=41473036386516

[alpine moth]

❤️

thanks!

32€ is a bit much, but what the hell, let's do it

[faint dune]

oh wait

if you're in the uk

https://ultimatemister.com/product/noctua-premium-fan/

sorry, I live in the US so I just assume everyone else does 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[alpine moth]

well, i already ordered, but this would be about 8€ cheaper

it's alright

nevermind, it's actually the same 😂

[compact pine]

I assume its' easy to swap this fan into the mister pi?

[faint dune]

yup. requires you to pull the AV board off of the main board, but yeah, just 4 screws (with washers)

[alpine moth]

noctua fan installed

patient seems to be alive and well - i still suck at dodonpachi though 🤣

was it overkill compared to just setting the jumper to low power? maybe, but now it's really barely audible

[oak flax]

A regular noctua fan this size wont fit?

[alpine moth]

at least the original one used in dreamcasts for example run on a different voltage, so they wouldn't be compatible. also not sure about the fan header, as well

[faint dune]

It's not the size that is the problem, it's the connector

[cinder crane]

In the grand scheme of things they’re not expensive. Any fan is overkill if you already have a heatsink installed anyways. Might as well do what makes you happy.

[alpine moth]

well, 30€ for a fan still feels a like a good chunk, but it's worth it still. ...and i don't have a heatsink on my mister pi yet 🤔

[cinder crane]

Might as well go all out!

I also did a Noctua fan + heatsink combo prior lol

[alpine moth]

i love that thing to bits, so it will be worth it, maybe a new/custom case too in the future

[timber fern]

Even a heat sink is arguably overkill by itself

[alpine moth]

let's overkill more then

[oblique drum]

Cloning my sd card in preperation of batch 3 being shipped. 🙏

[faint dune]

thats a birthday gift, yeah?

[oblique drum]

Correct.

I hope just cloning my card and stripping out the saves folder and exchange the ini file will be the least amount of work 😅

[oak flax]

Do you think it could be in the states by next week?

[winged fable]

i got excited but remembered the mega packs are shipping and not the turbo packs smh

[faint dune]

Did yours ship?

[oak flax]

My app doesnt work

[oak flax]

Whats the difference

[faint dune]

I’m near chicago (so an import hub) and it both my mister pi’s took 7 days

[winged fable]

turbo is prebuilt with case and micro sd card

[oak flax]

Oh yea i knew that but i was confused because i assumed the turbo would take priority

But i guess that makes sense

He has to make them

[oak flax]

So you ordered an earlier batch?

[faint dune]

Yeah

[winged fable]

Tru- we all awaited this long already what’s another week or 2 lol

[faint dune]

turbo is a longer process so they are getting the easy ones out of the way

[oblique drum]

Ah I ordered a turbo built, so that makes sense.

[faint imp]

@gritty herald stock wen? https://retrofrog.net/products/mister-pi-compact-case-taki-udon-and-retro-remake

[gritty herald]

I have stock. Just forgot to update the store. Drop me a DM tomorrow morning and I’ll re-add inventory

[faint imp]

Thanks! It’s not for me, I just recommended it in Taki’s Discord

[gritty herald]

Ahh

[oblique drum]

So I take it turbo pack shipments are now dependent on how fast takis fingers are?

[tough whale]

when i think of the multisystem 2 i’m impressed by the sheer… fuglyness of it in comparison to this case

[faint dune]

@gritty herald makes good shit. I dunno if that one will ever see the light of day, but I cross my fingers and toes every night

[gritty herald]

Haha you guys

[gritty herald]

MiSTer Pi cases back in stock: https://retrofrog.net/products/mister-pi-compact-case-taki-udon-and-retro-remake

[tough whale]

i might be refitting my MiSTerPi with one of Addons direct video IO boards

no one makes a back plate for that but it’s a bit of a niche within a niche so not surprising

might just take an x-acto knife and dremel to the one i already have

[faint dune]

Todd has a generic mister case like that one, would still need to either be dremeled (or edited in the slicer) but it might work too

[shrewd dust]

https://fxtwitter.com/TakiUdon_/status/1905493847213219975

Taki Udon (@TakiUdon_)

The MD for SuperStation one has finished. We are now sending this out for a CNC sample before opening the mold.
︀︀
︀︀1. We are now using a high gloss surface for labels instead of silkscreen. The contrast works well with the shell texture we have on the top and bottom shells.

Quoting Taki Udon (@TakiUdon_)
︀
Introducing the SuperStation one. An open-source PS1 FPGA gaming console that supports original games, memory cards, and controllers. Load games from a disk or a backup. Region free. Supports all MiSTer FPGA cores, including N64 & Sega Saturn.
︀︀
︀︀Learn more: retroremake.co

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FxTwitter · Mar 28, 2025, 5:35 AM

[faint dune]

but batch 3

[oblique drum]

Hope the turbo in the turbo pack isn't just marketing.

[tardy hornet]

How many pounds of boost does the turbo kit run

[winged fable]

Stands for turbo slow

[faint imp]

wen

[faint dune]

https://tenor.com/bf6l9.gif

[stoic sentinel]

Seems like the last update brought sound on Raizing cores over the 3.5mm output. Yay!

[dense umbra]

Coin-ops updated to their cores to the new framework

[limber token]

Had all orders from batch 3 shipped, or is there possibility of a drama with us based customers now?

[faint dune]

they haven't all shipped and who knows

[oblique drum]

I'm a Europe based customer and mine hasn't shipped yet. But the village waits patiently and politely.

[delicate hazel]

Has anyone tried Taki's Level Shifter (batch 2 bonus) with other Snac adapters?

[delicate hazel]

In regards to the above. I had a response from the vendor that I brought some snac adapters from

Nat said that I could use the level shifter that came with the Mister Pi as they are the same.

[dim delta]

Can anyone recommend and in-line usb-c power switch? Just tried one from amazon.de and of course it doesn’t work at all…

[faint imp]

I think @gritty herald sells a very good one?

[faint dune]

He does https://retrofrog.net/products/switched-usb-c-to-usb-c-for-mister-pi-taki-udon-retro-remake I use that one

but if you want something quick from amazon, both the raspberry pi 4 and 5 switches are good (depending on what kind of switch you want)

[dim delta]

This was the one that failed: https://amzn.eu/d/7j7cizf

[dim delta]

Thank you

[faint dune]

Ahh, I have this one and this one

[winged summit]

this reminds me I bought a smart wifi usb switch, but it comes with usb-a male connector to the power supply, and for some reason it won't work with an extension cable

[winged summit]

ummmm, I think it wants data connection, f* me if I know why but...

oh, well, it is working now, and it have a physical button and wifi so I can integrate Mister power on and off in Home Assistant now 😄

[cinder crane]

How is the first one?

[faint dune]

That was my preferred one until I bought Todd’s

Good button feel

satisfying

[cinder crane]

Thanks, I’ll send that my friend with the MisterPi.

[dim delta]

Ordered! Thanks for the help

[winged summit]

Ah, even if it has usb-a connectors, it can work from 5v to 12v, so I suppose if it doesn’t have the data paths to negotiate that it refuses to work

[dense umbra]

MiSTer Pi is back in stock

[faint imp]

[cursive crypt]

Friend of mine just got his Batch 3 (he pre ordered) and I had to do some soldering on it, pin connector that connects the USB board to the other board was so full of solder you couldn't push them together.

But they refunded him the cost of components so that's good. Had to buy a 100 to get 1 but cheaper than sending it back and waiting.

[faint dune]

ugh, I'm glad they took care of them. Taki's support seems like it can be real hit and miss

[cursive crypt]

They offered to pay up to $35 to send it back, but then he'd be waiting even longer, so he found the pin connectors and asked if I could swap it, 2min job with a Hakko setup and they refunded him $21 (USD and the parts were CAD so he made out like a bandit)

[final folio]

have there been any recent reports on memory instability? Taki offered me a 1.5V instead of waiting for more 1.6V stock, the only difference being the built-in SDRAM

[solid stratus]

Nothing systemic. It's always possible for individual pieces to have issues from a bad solder job.

Applies for separate or on-board ram

[final folio]

yeah that's what I'm betting on. I went with 1.5V mostly to have the option of experimenting with different and perhaps future RAM kits

hidden bonus of being on the tail end or orders, I got them to add a batch 2 snes snac adapter to my order. €5 + tax is a steal

[delicate hazel]

Not recently no

The memory shenanigans happened with batch 1 I believe. Then things improved with batch 2 (i got mine in batch 2)

[delicate hazel]

Yeah that is a deal.

[winged summit]

I don’t recall anyone complaining about RAM with Batch 2?

[delicate hazel]

Yeah same.

[dense umbra]

I have been using one of Takis SDram boards in my DE10 build with no issues. Oddly my SDram from a recommended supplier was showing errors in testing but never noticed anything when in use

[final folio]

I searched around a bit when they gave me the options but couldn't find anything recent, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks

[late rover]

Has there been any documented issues with hdmi out on takis boards? I have a tv that just straight up stopped cooperating with mine. It just gets no signal from it whatsoever. I do suspect it might be the tv though since it's the only device it refuses to work on.

[limber token]

Never heard of hdmi problems. As it is version 1.4 it should work mostly on every tv .

[winged summit]

There are the cec problems but that happens to de10nano too

[late rover]

Mine worked for a while too but it just stopped getting a signal at some point. I am still leaning towards the samsung tv just being a bit crap.

[solid stratus]

Try a spare SD recreated with Mr Fusion to make sure it’s not a software issue.
Tried a different HDMI cable? Different HDMI ports? Does Samsung have any equivalent of the stupid LG trick where you name an HDMI port “PC” to enable a sort of game-mode-max?

[delicate hazel]

I had to do that with my TCL TV after tinkering around with the video scale options in mister

Before I changed the scale modes, 'game mode' would work fine on my TV.

After I changed the scale, there would be so much lag. But using 'pc mode' on my TV fixed it all

[late rover]

I've tried it with a different sd, fresh install, different cables, different power supply etc. None of the tv settings I found relevant did no thing. I've more or less accepted my defeat.

[solid stratus]

Weird. Yeah, I blame Samsung. Firmware update on the TV maybe?

[late rover]

I think I tried that too. At least did a full factory reset or whatever it was called.

It's not a huge issue for me since I bought the thing to be used with my crts anyway. Still annoying though.

[faint dune]

Try a vanilla mister.ini

With no changes

And see if it shows up then

Just yesterday I leaned that you can’t have vrr and vsync adjust 0 enabled at the same time. If you’re doing crt stuff, it’s possible that there is something in the ini that is gumming up the works

[patent knoll]

I messed up once in the .ini and had it set to a 50hz mode, so worth double checking

[dense umbra]

If the Pi follows the DE10 for HDMI then the CEC is grounded and can cause lots of issues with TVs and ARC
You can get CEC strippers cheap

The other issue the DE10 has is the HDMI is not power isolated so the board can partially power up from HDMI power if using a switch, I don't know if the PI is the same

I know the CEC issues are fixed on the QMtech board though

Snagged a PI earlier in the week to play around with

[lime talon]

Did Taki shut down orders to the US because of the tariff stuff? (Would make sense, it's just poorly communicated on the site if that's the case)

[shrewd dust]

Yeah

[delicate hazel]

I think he restricted it to DHL at first. Then once the stock was gone, it was gone. (From my understanding, Taki was able to squeeze a few more orders with DHL)

Also quick question

Is there anything I need to do to my mister pi to enable duel ram support? Or is it just plug the 2nd ram in and I'm away?

[faint dune]

plug in second ram and you're good

don't need to flip any switches

[delicate hazel]

Ty kindly

[shrewd dust]

There was a window that you had to order by then he paused orders. There's still stock which you can put in the shopping cart but if you put in a US shipping address it says it's an invalid address so you can't check out.

[faint dune]

mine shipped on friday and will, apparently, be here tomorrow?

[delicate hazel]

Damn that is fast

[limber token]

I read something about DHL stopping to ship to us, but I don’t know if this is only valid for china?

[oblique drum]

My pi is being delivered today! 🥳

[winged fable]

hell yeah

just got mine and set it up today

[cinder crane]

I have a Raspberry Pi 5

[delicate hazel]

I have a chicken and bacon PI(e)

[dim delta]

Anyone else annoyed by the fan sound? Swapped a Noctua into mine last night, testing tonight but was a straightforward upgrade besides my clumsiness in keeping track of the exact orientation for the bottom case piece

Still, at this price point no real complaints

[winged summit]

Change it to 3.3v

[winged fable]

Mine has been pretty quiet so far- maybe my pc is loud and I’m used to it compared to the pi lol

[alpine moth]

i certainly don't regret switching out my fan for a noctua one and yes the fan noise was getting annoying for me

[vagrant goblet]

I stepped the stock fan down to 3.3 volts and haven't heard it since

[alpine moth]

stepping it down helped a lot, but i still had some whine

[dim delta]

Whoops that would have been easier and cost less, oh well

[cinder crane]

Yah probably got a bad fan, well either way you fixed it, good on you

[dim delta]

I’m sure mine was bad, too. I’m going to just pretend so I feel better about my solution!

[cinder crane]

dropping it in voltage is a huge help if you haven’t done that yet

[dim delta]

More excitingly, one ram chip from my mister pi joined a Taki ram chip for a dual ram build with Saturn in mind 🙂

[oblique drum]

I'm a mister pi owner for 1 day. 😎

[faint dune]

Hey, it showed up in April* as promised!

[oblique drum]

I'll have to finish the setup but then it's ready to go. I already put in the second ram and switched the voltage of the fan.

[dim delta]

How’d you get the 2nd ram to fit? Wasn’t obvious to me…

[oblique drum]

You have to pull out the L shaped av board.

[dim delta]

So that board is unnecessary?

[oblique drum]

If you don't want to use analog out, pretty much, yes.

[warm olive]

You can either choose to install the analog board for outputting to CRTs, which works simultaneously with the digital output if I recall correctly, so you could output to an LCD and CRT at the same time, or instead installing a second RAM stick if you do not want to use the analog board. It's either or.

[digital estuary]

Curious how these INSANE USA political tariffs are gonna mess with the Mister Market. Import duties more expensive than the item with shipping.

[faint dune]

it's not good

[digital estuary]

I can't imagine, especially anything electronic.

[faint dune]

https://vxtwitter.com/MisterAddons/status/1917681854976778331

Porkshop Express (@[email protected])

I try not to complain, but it’s real. This was my second such case. One day things will return to normal. But not today.

QRT: GlytchTech
its real yall 🫠<$2k of equipment

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 30, 2025, 8:45 PM

[digital estuary]

Wowwwwwww

[wary turret]

Yeah the other thread with the similar story to porks the guy was getting dogpiled by idiots

https://x.com/glytchtech/status/1917336903285707179?s=46&t=MRFGdxzW6DApe1riUXPyNg

Glytch (@GlytchTech) on X

The funniest stinkin thing about this is:

This is just a picture of reality. I made no claims. I made no political statement. And this is quite possibly the most divisive post Ive ever made.

Im flabbergasted. In absolute awe. We are so screwed

X · Apr 29, 2025, 9:55 PM

[faint dune]

Yeah, that about sums it up

[potent saddle]

Buy what you can while the tarrifs are still only a threat. i've been loading up on dev boards and parts for months. Do i need them? maybe not. but just in case. im not paying tripple to ship them.

and i got 2 mister pi sets. one to use. one for backup. dont think i need to buy anything else for awhile i hope.

[oblique drum]

I felt stupid last year when I ordered a bunch of stuff from prokchop to europe since the transport was almost as expensive as the items. Just in case he needs to raise his prices due to tariffs on raw materials or my country introduces retaliatory tariffs. Now I feel... worried. Just worried.

[faint imp]

Someone needs to Make Importing Great Again

[tough whale]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-2024-nosferatu-horror-gothic-movie-gif-11487660956127357119

me sneaking in 8bitdo and MiSTer Pi’s thru customs

[misty ether]

you can use the https://ultimatemister.com/ in the EU, although I didn't check the full catalogue

[oblique drum]

They don't have the aluminum case! 😦

[faint dune]

the best case

[oblique drum]

No mister deserves less.

[faint imp]

@elfin pendant finally installed a MiSTer Pi on my v1 green PCB Ironclad Lite. Made a custom USB adapter and USB devices are working fine, however I don’t get the glowing led in the power button nor does it activate OSD when single pressed or reboot when pressed twice. Also analog audio and video don’t work. Any clues?

[faint imp]

@gritty herald do you make MiSTer Pi “slim cases” for setups made of only the MiSTer Pi and SDRAM?

[gritty herald]

Currently I don’t. Is that an option for them?

[faint imp]

Nah! That’s just what I’ve got as my Ironclad Lite doesn’t work with it 🤷

[limber token]

I would say check the cable connections on the side were the second sdram would be connected. Also not sure, if a switch on the Mister Pi had to be changed too.

[faint imp]

Yeah, let’s see if Roberto chimes in! I would really like to have the old Ironclad Lite working with the MiSTer Pi

[limber token]

Mister Pi should work. But irconclad lite acts perhaps as a analog board 6.1 and Miser Pi normaly comes with the newer 9.2 wich is more a digital one with the av addon.

I would suggest to check the swtiches on Mister Pi too.

[faint imp]

The PCB bracket seems to be well connected. Will try to reseat it tomorrow. I wonder what would happen if the pogo pins aren’t making a connection?