#Apple IIgs

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tame rapids
tame rapids
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I see, thanks!

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wind swift
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I am close to a version for everyone to test with woz support, and rom3 or rom1 support (i think they are separate rbfs still) - but you will need to build the rom files from a mame rom

light shale
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This is so exciting.

warm marsh
hybrid bear
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This is awesome!!

wind swift
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I think the floppy support in this is pretty good. I can't format the 5.25" in the gs/os finder yet. I know wizardry still doesn't work. I believe it passes both ROM1 and ROM3 selftests.

sinful jasper
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I haven't tried woz media yet, most of what I have tried comes off my IIgs/CFFA3k, but the core starts up and passes the cat test.

wind swift
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At some point when I get the woz working better I will try to build some converters into mister main for 2mg / hdv / dsk. (Convert into and out of woz. Keep it native woz on the fpga )

sinful jasper
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Would that be for all filesystems, including HFS volumes potentially larger than 32mb? Assuming the core would support that.

wind swift
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I should say that really the floppies will be converted and the header from 2mg will be ignored for the hard drive. I think some 2mg are floppies. All of the formats confuse me. Does iigs have a file limit? Or is it bigger with hfs volumes ? We are working on fixing the hard drive. I don’t think it currently reports the correct size.

sinful jasper
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The IIgs has a filesystem limit of 32mb for ProDOS, HFS has a 2gb limit. The possibility of sharing an HFS volume between the Apple-IIgs core and the MacPlus core for data transfer could be interesting.

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2mg files of up to about 800k are generally floppies, larger files (unless they're from something like a SuperDrive floppy with a ~~Liron ~~ SuperDrive card) should be hard disk type devices. I'm not entirely certain whether the smartport supported larger volumes, it could do hard drive type devices but would be slow for anything large. An Apple HS SCSI or RamFast SCSI card could absolutely do that.

nocturne cypress
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Our current HDD card uses the AppleWin firmware (currently in the process of updating to the latest, which supports dynamic size information). Extending that to support larger volumes is something I've thought about, but it would be significant customization and possibly moving the firmware to the C800 space (I think it currently has ~20 bytes free).

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I think the BMOW floppy emu has support for multi-GB SmartPort HDD, but it is indeed slow (500 Kbit/s?).

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Also I seem to remember reading that there was an issue actually sharing volumes between IIgs and Mac, something about the byte order of certain fields in the metadata.

midnight musk
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Latest RBF - thanks again for all the work on the core - loading Airball on ROM3 I’m getting this error. Happy to raise an issue.

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wind swift
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oh $27 ugh. this is a 3.5" woz? woz-a-day ?

midnight musk
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Yes. Woz-a-day set. Gets past the gorgeous loading screen.

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I assumed it was 3.5”. Checking.

wind swift
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i am trying to fix a bug in the 5.25" now - i will look at this afterwards

midnight musk
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Yes. Same error. Tried both versions of Airball.

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Let me know if you want the disk image.

warm marsh
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ROM1 has also the same error?

wind swift
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oh - good point. check both roms. some games don't work on rom3

midnight musk
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Will check now.

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Error when loading and ROM1 selected

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wind swift
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grab a new copy of the file - make sure i didn't corrupt it

warm marsh
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Testing Airball WOZ 3.5 with ROM3 and it shows Atrac mod

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but I don't know how to start a new game

wind swift
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If someone wants to bang their head against the wall, i would love to figure out how to get the ppp stuff working. I don't know if the serial port is broken (it works for typing) or if we need to change the settings in linux / script in iigs or something

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but having ppp on the iigs might not be that interesting

warm marsh
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There is a screen during the atrac mode we can switch from JOYSTICK to Keyboard with tab key.
In this case I could start a game by selecting keyboard maybe joystick part missing something for this game

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@wind swift are you agree if we start a google sheet for apple IIgs to list games running and games with issue or it is too soon ?

wind swift
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I noticed some joystick problems.

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Let’s make a google sheet! Make a column for each rom version (I think )

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I think the Iie colors are funky still

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Maybe we need to note the source of the image as well or an md5. Plus we should see if we are corrupting images. We might be.

warm marsh
shell meteor
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Sure I can knock this up, what is the best pack for these?

warm marsh
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I don't know but you could use listing the officials ones and we can add new ones ourselfs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apple_IIGS_games

List of Apple IIGS games

This is a list of native 16-bit Apple IIGS game (it does not include 8-bit Apple II games which the system is backward compatible with). A second section lists all the games which were announced, rumored, or otherwise were not released for the system.

shell meteor
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Probably better to use a pack so everyone has the same files if there is a good one

warm marsh
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Like all computers the pack set of floppies have not good dump ... that why Alanswx proposed to add a column with md5 of the floppie and what is the source (pack or somewhere else)

wind swift
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woz-a-day if you had to pick one

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but it would be good to have a column, and then we could merge the best out of a few packs

warm marsh
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@shell meteor another thing it could be great to add Appple-IIgs bioses (boot.rom and boot1.rom) on the DB-Bios

shell meteor
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We will get that sorted soon 🙂

sinful jasper
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It's possible to boot the GS over Appletalk, which is a neat trick.

potent rose
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Being able to pick ROM1 or ROM3 from the menu is a nice addition to the core. Thanks!

ruby osprey
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You guys are the best. Thank you for all of your ongoing work on this core!

wind swift
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does anyone know how to make a bards tale character disk? or do you have one for me?

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I think i figured it out.

shell meteor
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Testing tab on the WIP Core Testing sheet

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BIOS files also in the BIOS DB

warm marsh
shell meteor
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No worries

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I left Year and Genre on the sheet as they were there when I copied the list over, but can be removed if superfluous

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I can add some conditional formatting and counters once there is some data

wind swift
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I think the next UI thing it needs is an error message if we mount a 5.25" in the 3.5" woz. or vice/vs.

sinful jasper
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Copying an application (in this case, GS.ShrinkIt) now works to a new 32mb volume, previously copying it to another volume would cause the copied version to crash when executed whereas the original would still run.

I might be testing incorrectly, but it looks like the core is reporting unformatted volumes as 32mb now regardless of the size of the hdv file at least in GS/OS? An empty 4mb file created with dd shows up as 32mb in the same way that it showed up as 16mb previously. 32mb is likely a more useful volume size in the general case though!

sinful jasper
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I installed GS/OS 6.0.4 fresh to a 32mb hdv file (via a live install .po image file I have from years ago) with the new core and it works, as long as I disable Inits/DAs at startup with shift. Curiously, the freshly installed drive comes up believing it's a 5.25" disk with the capacity of a 32mb volume. Otherwise it seems to work fine.

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warm marsh
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Need to test again previously it doesn't work week ago

sinful jasper
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Copying applications from one volume to another was broken up until now, as far as I could tell.

warm marsh
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I was able to make it on Mame but the HDD has graphical issues after one or two resets (warm) with the core

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during the launch when the shoes is shown

sinful jasper
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Also, EasyAccess existing in System:System.Setup seems to crash the boot process.

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Possibly disk corruption in MAME? I've used KEGS, Bernie II the Rescue and gsport which seem to work well enough. My ROM 03 IIgs of course as well.

warm marsh
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At the first boot on the core the graphical issue is not present but after to restart even we shutdown the GS/OS special menu, the graphical issue appears ...

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I will try to redo HDD from the core and check if I can reproduce the case

sinful jasper
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Does it survive a cold boot (presumably MAME restart)?

warm marsh
sinful jasper
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Aside from the 5.25" floppy icon and having to remove EasyAccess, it seems to be working fine in the current core.

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Installing without the full 6.0.4 Live.Update.po hasn't worked, although I suppose I could copy the 3.5" install media to .woz files since they likely support eject.

warm marsh
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After installing HDD on Mame I added also synthLab because one lib provided with synthLab is required for the music on game Dragon Wars, i wonder what are other tools important to install for having a HDD able to run most of games

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?

sinful jasper
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I recall various tools were added over time, although I can't admit to remembering them with any granularity. There's a wita2gs bootable image which seems to contain the majority (possibly all) of them.

sick surge
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I have no previous exp on Apple IIgs, but gonna try that Marinetti PPP + some web browsers/other tcp/ip apps (telnet/ftp).
Hopefully got everything ready (latest core, roms and some 6.0.x pre-made HDVs and Marinetti .po image) before I am trying anything after I finish work.
Now, as I was checking online about Marinetti, and only based on sshots it seems it can go up to 57600 baud.
Checking the Apple-IIgs.sv, I see it goes up to just 19200:
"Apple-IIgs;UART19200:9600:4800:2400:1200:300;",
IF I can get Marinetti PPP to work, will also try to add 38400 and 57600 as well to test, will see how it goes in few hrs

nocturne cypress
nocturne cypress
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The registers update like I'd expect in the monitor. Not sure what's going on.

nocturne cypress
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I wonder if it's being cached by the OS. There's a bit in the HDD firmware to indicate whether the medium is removable, but I don't know what it actually does. I'm not aware of a mechanism in the ProDOS firmware interface to indicate a medium change.

wind swift
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If I verify the hdd the screen goes blank stuck in a loop. Not sure if there is memory corruption.

sick surge
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Installation of Marinetti was very smooth, I think I set up correctly the PPP, but it shows this error, didn't yet tried with a serial terminal

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think i am getting somewhere :

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and after some waiting , same error. To get that Dialing I deleted the Modem Init string (ATZ), but in the end same link layer timed out. It goes by initializing serial, modem, then hangs up the modem, shuts down the serial and gives that error (like it doesn't recognize the "modem"/doesn't get a response)

sinful jasper
warm marsh
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Testing to build HDD with liveinstall.po and ROM3 (with ROM1 it hangs but doesn't show error)

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nocturne cypress
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Regarding the size updating issue, I suspect the two drives get mixed up (HDD card logic maybe using the wrong bit to distinguish which drive is being accessed). I'll look at it after work.

wind swift
sick surge
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Well, today was the first time I played around with an Apple IIgs 😄 Didn't expect to get much further than this, but looks like a fun system to mess around. Will see later some terminals, not a frigging clue on those (yet)

sinful jasper
warm marsh
sinful jasper
warm marsh
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Shift help permits to make the build of HDD thanks !

wind swift
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Can we change the Linux script to ignore the modem or emulate it ?

sinful jasper
wind swift
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Useful to know.

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I wonder if it works with a modem on the original gs. That would be a bit harder to test.

sinful jasper
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I'm not sure if I still have any modems around, I could check. I did have a Mac modem sitting around, although I used that mostly with my Powerbook.

sick surge
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Were those Mac modems much different to Hayes standard, had some quirks ?

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Also (sorry if i missed this) : any confirmed serial terminals to work /or recommend ?

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Looks like on PPP it initializes the serial port, but fails on initializing the modem. So just wondering if it's the same if using a serial terminal and set the connection to modem

wind swift
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In true iigs fashion - there are many ways to use the serial port. I believe it works under iie emulation and with the gs/os driver. I have used a gs program with the control panel and a classic iie program.

sinful jasper
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I used Proterm on my IIgs for testing.

wind swift
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Each program I tried uncovered another bug. If you find another terminal program that doesn’t work let me know.

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This serial port started on the Mac. I improved it on the Mac to get ppp running on the Mac. Then on the iigs it failed self test. Failed interrupts. Failed gs/os.

sinful jasper
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Possibly silly question, is the serial port presented by the IIgs core the modem or printer port?

wind swift
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Good question. I think it is modem now.

sinful jasper
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They're functionally identical

wind swift
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I would like to add printer emulation. It was backwards for a while. That was a bug.

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Except on the Mac and original iigs port I didn’t have uarts for an and b hooked up. So it didn’t work right.

sinful jasper
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Thay would probably drop a lot

wind swift
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@hazy hull added a serial console to the simulation framework. Maybe we should hook that up and see what characters the ppp sends.

sinful jasper
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Quite some time ago I pulled out ImageWriter II code from gsport and attached it to hackish serial code and it sort of worked over a null modem cable to the IIgs.

wind swift
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It seems like we could add an epson emulation and use it in all the 8bit cores. I am sure Sorg will love that.

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Or hack in fujinet

sinful jasper
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I'm not sure if the corruption issues I saw were due to hardware flow control signals not being passed by the null modem cable and RS232 to RS422 adapter so maybe it would work better in MiSTer.

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But that's a rather long tangent.

wind swift
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On the real iigs ?

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There are so many things that can be slightly wrong. And so few spots to see debugging info.

sinful jasper
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Yes, I was able to get some prints out of it but that was also the only time I'd ever done serial programming so I'm sure there were plenty of wrong things in there.

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I saved to postscript and dumped that to my printer after it was done. If I ever go back and fix it I might even sell off my ImageWriter II.

shell meteor
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Printer emulation would be really interesting, would you have it output .png files to the SD a bit like a screenshot?

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There was some talk yesterday about if Gameboy Printer could ever be implemented somehow

sinful jasper
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I'd wonder if PDF might be better for a computer versus something like the Gameboy Printer, depending on the output the files could get large. The postscript could at times when I was testing.

sick surge
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Most probably dumb question: is this the correct order of slots ? Not a clue on GSOS, just guessing this is how it auto recognize what is connected ?

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sinful jasper
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PR#(slot number) can do slot related things in Applesoft Basic.

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Apple II systems aside from the //c have real slots, so the functionality could change depending on what's in the system. In the IIgs you can set it to "your card" to accomodate different cards in the slot.

sick surge
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I thought for a moment maybe the serial was not in the correct slot, but then i saw the rest of discussion between you and alan

sinful jasper
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Slots 1 and 2 are typically assigned to the two RS422 ports in the IIgs. Slot 1 has a long history of being the printer slot from 8 bit Apple II systems. You can change that though. A Super Serial or Grappler parallel printer card could be placed in any of the slots in real hardware, although that can come with complications.

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The important thing here is to know which slot the core is presenting as the serial port.

sick surge
sinful jasper
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It doesn't know. I'm pretty sure the settings you see here are the same you'd see in the CDA if it was accessible.

sick surge
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CDA ?

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what's that acronym stands for in this context ?

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Classic Desk Accessories ?

sinful jasper
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Yes, on a IIgs you can bring up a control panel/CDA window with the control/openapple/escape key. It's sort of PC BIOS-ish and lets you change various settings; some programs and expansion card firmware can display interfaces there.

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The CFFA 3000 and Transwarp GS in my IIgs both do this.

sick surge
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got it, thanks for info, mate 🍻

wind swift
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The challenge I had with serial was I didn’t realize I had only half implemented the uart. Then the schematics and chip talk about a/b but the system is modem/printer.

sinful jasper
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I imagine A and B are associated with Slot 1 and Slot 2 respectively? Good to know for testing in any case.

wind swift
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You would have to look at my code.. it all just confused me.

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it was trial and error until some characters came out

nocturne cypress
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The HDD size thing appears to just be a copy/paste error where I hooked up the same size for both drives. So it should be correct on the first drive, or if both happen to be the same size. I plan to get rid of that connection anyway as part of a broader cleanup of HDD-related code.

sinful jasper
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That makes perfect sense! I always booted GS/OS from a 32mb volume. I suppose I should have tested a second drive attached to the Kaboom! disk image, as it boots into GS/OS and is smaller.

wind swift
nocturne cypress
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That went away with the firmware update:
!word $0000 ; how many blocks are on the device. Zero means use status call

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It should have, anyway. The old firmware wouldn't work with the new HDL, so I don't think it's possible that something is using the old one.

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(full disclosure: I didn't actually assemble this source; I was lazy and copied the binary from the AppleWin tree)

dense fractal
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Getting much better!

sudden moss
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I had an Apple IIc as a kid. Always wanted a IIgs and looked at screenshots in magazines. Are there any good exclusives to play on it? Or just better versions of multiplatform games on it?

wind swift
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Lots of fun games. some exclusive. Ask your favorite AI to make a list or look at the spreadsheet linked above.

sudden moss
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Nice, ty!

ruby osprey
dense fractal
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There are a few exclusives, yes. Stuff like Alien Mind I don't think was available for other platforms.

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Not many

wind swift
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i think i pushed a fix for Wolfenstein 3D. No RBF yet.

warm marsh
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What was the issue ?

wind swift
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adb

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i am going to take a look at mean 18. is there something else more important? ( i don't think our Apple IIgs users overlap with sports games 🙂

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i feel like the joystick might be somehow broken in some games as well

warm marsh
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Airball 👍

wind swift
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we should probably note which of these work in rom1 and not rom3.. otherwise it will be harder to track down the bugs - maybe another column in the spreadsheet?

warm marsh
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I will add it tomorrow

wind swift
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are there any other games where the joystick doesn't work?

warm marsh
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I don't know need to test more

wind swift
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this latest thing i pushed may have broken stuff.. hmm

sinful jasper
sinful jasper
wind swift
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I think centering will be an issue. But I think there is a more fundamental bug in airball

nocturne cypress
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I did some reading a while back on the joystick. It's apparently kind of a mess because it basically works by having a software polling loop measure discharge time in an RC circuit, and Apple chose unusual potentiometers for their joystick. So there's sort of a matrix of compensations between software and hardware calibration/adjustment mechanisms, and then IIgs complicates things further because the CPU clock isn't constant.

molten dawn
warm marsh
wind swift
warm marsh
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ok !

wind swift
wind swift
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I am going to add 2mg support to main at some point, so i figured it was worth fixing it in the simulation first. i finally found an image where the header is bigger than 64 bytes

warm marsh
warm marsh
wind swift
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i think i just fixed mean18

molten dawn
wind swift
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Is mean 18 working? I am away from my mister

molten dawn
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i can got to this screen but can't go ingame

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dense fractal
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Is it copy protection or the game itself?

wind swift
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Is that the 2mg or the woz?

molten dawn
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woz

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from woz a day collection

wind swift
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i think there is a bunch of work to get done of the 5.25" disks - i am working on a script to try all the disks in simulation. Then i can tackle each copy protection scheme..

dense fractal
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So does the cracked version run, or did it before anyway?

wind swift
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Which game ? Mean 18 first bug was a vbl issue with the mega 2 vbl. It was inverted.

dense fractal
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It stops in the same place on the cracked 2mg file converted to PO, so it's not a protection/WOZ issue.

sinful jasper
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The second hdv/po mounted detects disk image size independently of the first in this 20260417 build.

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The GS/OS 6.0.4 installer also boots with Easy Access in the System.Setup folder without holding down the shift key.

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One slight oddity, if I try to format a 32mb volume GS/OS says it's write protected. 31mb and smaller volumes format normally.

nocturne cypress
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It might have the same off-by-one error I had with the SCSI card (size vs. last valid sector number).

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Like an image of exactly 32MiB reports a size of zero.

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Because it overflowed to bit 16.

nocturne cypress
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Does anyone happen to know what the bandwidth of the internal amp/speaker on the IIgs is? I tried looking for it a while back but didn't find much.

sinful jasper
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It sounds likely. A 33553408 byte vhd file formats, but a 33554432 byte vhd file doesn't.

sinful jasper
sinful jasper
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FWIW Google seems to think it's a LM380N, Mouser's spec sheet says it is a 2.5w amplifier with 100kHz of bandwidth at 2w.

nocturne cypress
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I didn't word that very well, but the main thing I'm trying to figure out is how to go about filtering the raw ES5503 output in the core to make it sound decent/accurate. It's unusual in that it has a very high "raw" sampling rate and relies on external filtering to smooth things out. The current filter was copied from another core as a proof-of-concept and probably loses too much of the high end. The answer is probably just to generate a new filter with a bit wider passband (maybe 10-12 KHz).

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It probably doesn't help that I'm far from being an audiophile, have no experience listening to original IIgs or Mirage hardware, and am testing on LCD monitor speakers. 🙃

sinful jasper
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I'm not sure if it would help to record something off my IIgs for comparison?

nocturne cypress
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I'm pretty sure I downloaded some reference recordings a few years ago.

tame rapids
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Lemmings is running quite slowly, is that expected?

wind swift
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Really slow or about 20% too slow?

nocturne cypress
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Judging by a YouTube video, it apparently just runs slow on an unaccelerated IIgs. Although I did also find a forum thread where someone claimed that switching to a different type of ADB mouse resolved it (?).

tame rapids
wind swift
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Yeah - I watched some YouTube videos of demos and it seems like we are a little slow. Not sure why.

wind swift
wind swift
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I think I made a mess of the keyboard fixing mean 18. It is going to take a bit of time to straighten it all out.

surreal harness
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Thanks for all your work on this Alan. I'm really excited to try this out.

molten dawn
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Mean 18 run with that build

wind swift
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is the keyboard broken on that version?

wind swift
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i think i have a fixed keyboard coming soon

molten dawn
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I can type a player name in mean 18

wind swift
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The next version seems to pass the iigs diag test from what I can tell (in simulation) I am still apart from my mister hardware

molten dawn
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sorry but how to go to control panel ? i can't find the keys

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F11 doesnt' seem to work anymore ?!?

flint topaz
molten dawn
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yes just compile from last commit

flint topaz
wind swift
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F11 reset. Hmm.

molten dawn
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yes before but with last version it doesn't reset anymore for me

wind swift
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I am sure I broke it when I went to fix the keys

wind swift
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the latest release probably fixes reset

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did you hit ctrl-F11 ?

molten dawn
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ctrl-f1 1 still work but no f11

molten dawn
wind swift
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What is f11 supposed to do without ctrl?

molten dawn
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before it does a cold reset i think

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i use that after mount a new disk

wind swift
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Ok. That is my fault - I just wrote that. Open Apple - ctrl - f11 should be hard reset

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I need to look at iigs manual

ruby osprey
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The reset key does not send a signal to the CPU when pressed alone.

nocturne cypress
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The history of the reset key is a mess. IIRC it's something like: it did send a reset to the CPU on the original Apple II, then a lockout with the Control key was added for the II+ (with a jumper to optionally bypass it for the old behavior), then the "enhanced Autostart ROM" made it so that a CPU reset alone was more like a Ctrl+C on other systems (i.e. break to BASIC/monitor instead of a full reboot), then the IIe made it so that Control+OpenApple+Reset did a full reboot.

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I'm certain that we're resetting too much logic on a "cold reset", though I have no idea how much of it matters in practice.

wind swift
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What games should I be working on next to fix? I think the keyboard is broken in Wolf3D. Sounds like the joystick is broken in some games.

sinful jasper
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Does Crystal Quest show a blank screen for you when it gets to the playfield?

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Not a keyboard issue to be fair, but I can only hear the sounds.

molten dawn
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Yes as i report for music construction set I think sound has problems

ruby osprey
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Does Rastan work?

molten dawn
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Yes but with graphics garbage in hud

slender palm
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is Zany Golf still having slowdowns? (I havent tried the core in a while, to be fair)

dense fractal
slender palm
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when I last tried it, it felt like it was always laggy. But I get your point

wind swift
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Is there a perf program we should run?

dense fractal
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That is not specifically for the IIgs, but we could baseline one.

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I will see if I can get my IIgs out this evening and do it.

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It would at least give us a CPU bench, possibly.

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It boots if you convert to PO with CiderPress, then "run speed.pro"

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Test fails in 04.17.26 core on the indirect references test, so likely there may still be bugs.

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It's also possible the test doesn't work on 65816 properly. I will test this evening.

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Meh, nevermind. That test disk seems unstable on everything.

flint topaz
dense fractal
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BTW, Mean 18 works in 0420 build.

nocturne cypress
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I'd need to double-check after the push, but it should also be working in current master as of this morning. IIRC Alan said that the fix was mistakenly reverted, and I did some cleanup that should be based on the behavior before that.

dense fractal
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Mean18 still works in 0428 build.

dense fractal
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However something has been messed up because Arkanoid has graphic corruption now and crashes at game start. Actually it seems to have been broken for a while. I know I played it, but it was maybe a month ago. It worked in 0304 builds.

molten dawn
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I try with my own build from last main commit and arkanoid play well

dense fractal
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Still doesn't work for me. Are you sure? I tried WOZ and an old .PO I made that worked a while ago.

molten dawn
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I finish the first level and go to the second without problem

dense fractal
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OK the PO overrides the WOZ image, so I was always using that. The WOZ version works after a very long wait during the Taito screen.

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Thanks

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Maybe something still odd in PO support

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The PO image is good. Runs on PC emulator, and on real IIgs when trasferred with adtpro.

nocturne cypress
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Arkanoid is one of my go-to test cases. If you mean that it crashes during/near drawing the bricks when you start a game, I ran into that with the combination of a specific disk image and ROM version. Never tracked down whether it was disk corruption, a bad crack/dump, or what.

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The main thing I know of that we're still missing on the HDD is support for SmartPort firmware calls, which is a significant amount of work (either writing firmware to process the commands or overhauling our HDL to match AppleWin's SmartPort interface and using their firmware).

dense fractal
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Yeah, the PO files are converted from 2MG. They do work elsewhere, but crash on this core. Likely because it's not really treating is a floppy, but a small floppy-sized smartport device.

dense fractal
molten dawn
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I have another woz That didn’t work before

wind swift
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Send me broken things and I will try to fix them

ruby osprey
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"Take these broken things and learn to fly again, learn to live so free." -paraphrased from Mr. Mister

ruby osprey
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Has anyone tested the core with an actual IIgs analog RGB monitor?

potent rose
pure eagle
wind swift
ruby osprey
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FYI--and this may be useful to the European crowd--I use my actual IIgs with an adapter to put the RGB signal through a SCART cable, and connect it to a very rare Samsung Syncmaster 940mw (or 910mp) LCD TV/monitor that accepts a SCART connection and the European signal. I assume that something along those lines will work for the Mister core (although, for my part, I plan to use the core via HDMI anyway).

pure eagle
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Here you go

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It was found in a garbage dump so the case is pretty beat up but the image quality is still very nice (when it works haha)

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And these are the dip switch settings I used on that adapter for RGBs (CSsync)

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ruby osprey
wind swift
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wow that looks pretty good!! amazing

hazy hull
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I use a similar adapter on my Macintosh II

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but I guess you are going in the opposite direction, from VGA to DB15, so cool to see that working!

surreal harness
light shale
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Amazing!

stark willow
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Just got my Mister and I am cackling with glee at this core. Was able to pull the image I used from high school and get it running. Tears of joy!!!

nocturne cypress
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I honestly don't have fond memories of the platform myself, but in a bunch of ways it's just such a perfect time capsule that it seems like a shame to not have a MiSTer core.

wind swift
stark willow
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Yesss, and Rastan too!!! I've been trying to get Apple II working (on a Super Station One), but all the analog output is black and white. Don't know if that's a result of Weird Woz NTSC black magic or what.

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(IIGS outputs color no problem)

wind swift
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my superstation hasn't arrived yet..

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do you have the scaler on ?

stark willow
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On the standard II core? I'll have to check. I remember flipping through a bunch of settings with no luck, I'll see what I can dig up.

wind swift
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There are color settings in the IIe menu - i assume you saw that, but it is working on HDMI but not analog?

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i wonder if the TK2000 would work for you

stark willow
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Yeah, you can flip between color/mono/green, I think -- those were all showing up as B&W too. I think someone was having similar issues with the MSX2 core.