Nintendo 64

[daring meteor]

From my quick testing no changes in the Broken games aside from Mario Tennis

[cerulean elk]

Music to my scheduling ears 🤣 also all we’re doing today is another Turkey and playing Talos Principle 2

I am getting big three eyed Pikachu vibes from mouthless Conker. The fun is back

[wanton sun]

I hoped this would have also fixed Paper Mario, as the reproducible crash there is also gone with cache off, but it was not the case. Still, i'm happy that another game works. Given how few are left, it will likely not be multiple at once anymore

[daring meteor]

I wouldn't be surprised if Goldeneye and Conker are fixed at once

[wanton sun]

hopefully. Goldeneye crashes fast, so it can be researched. Conker not so much

[cerulean elk]

its fun to see them both executing code all the same

[daring meteor]

The two battletanks games I also expect to be fixed at the same time

And the two Factor 5 games

[daring meteor]

If it helps Fifa is unchanged, so hopefully related

[raw oriole]

Mm, house coding styles have very much played a part in the compatibility groupings

[wanton sun]

Fifa is timing related only. If you slow down the cache or ddr3, it works

probably PI too fast

(reading from rom is still 3 times as fast as it should be)

[daring meteor]

Ah, got it

[weary palm]

I bought Xeno Crisis just so I could add it to the database xD

I hope the rom isn't watermarked in a way that it affects the md5

[knotty zealot]

NO tlb today? WHAT? what am i supposed to do now @wanton sun

[steady basalt]

There is one tlb fix today.

[wanton sun]

yes, but it only fixes non-tlb games 🤣 (when you boot the core and no rom is loaded, random data from sdram is executed, easily leading to a TLB instruction request. Because the TLB was empty, it would generate a TLB miss exception. When a game doesn't use TLB, it cannot handle this exception if it is not properly reset)

[hollow badger]

So Mario Tennis has a fix, but it still does not boot?

[wanton sun]

Mario Tennis works

[hollow badger]

OOOOOHHHH SHT SON

[knotty zealot]

for this one mario tennis fix, you're not causing a lot of racket

[hollow badger]

bruh

[wanton sun]

I'm happy with it. You can play as yoshi, what more do you need?

[knotty zealot]

fat yoshi

[daring meteor]

fat yoshi

[viscid chasm]

my Goldeneye save now loads and i can access the cheat menu and select level before it goes black playing the music

[short hill]

sorry wrong channel

[brisk drum]

Got my name on the list and was the first to complete two tlb tittles ..

My legacy is secured

[viscid chasm]

also loads without having to load another game first

[brisk drum]

Rakuga kids and KI gold

[fierce garden]

Holy cow, I didn’t know TP had a sequel!!!! Thanks, I’m buying today! The first is one of my favs OAT, doing a blind first run and getting all the stars is definitely one of my gaming highlights. It did get easier once you knew how to cheat with boundaries, but it was part of the fun.

[cerulean elk]

10/10 good. Enjoy it

[orchid nimbus]

decoder has been updated with new bit

[cerulean elk]

VO then upload for 4...fun stuff

GoldenEye working yet NOT working is fun to talk about....the interim progress

[orchid nimbus]

I just updated conkers to this: Requires TLB - unstable hit or miss when booting - therefore set to no boot as it's not consistent enough

we have a shortlist

[oblique remnant]

Perfect Dark is better anyway 🙂

[cerulean elk]

I don’t care what everyone else says…I think you are super valuable around here! 😂

[solemn marlin]

People talk about goldeneye aging poorly, what about conker huh

There's no way all those poop jokes hold up

[orchid nimbus]

if someone has something to say about me then they should say it to my face!

I updated the FAQ with the current TLB non working titels

and moved to implemented as 'partial'

[cerulean elk]

Hahaha

[weary palm]

Xeno Crisis doesn't even boot. What a waste of $$$

[orchid nimbus]

said the guy who freeloaded the game from a website

or paid $18 for it 🙂

whatever

[vapid hawk]

i've bought xenocrisis so many times at this point i've lost count lol

[noble escarp]

Is Gauntlet Legends doing anything yet?

[orchid nimbus]

yes

e

[vapid hawk]

it boots but it runs really slow i think

[noble escarp]

Oooo, exciting

[orchid nimbus]

@noble escarp https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/edit?pli=1#gid=1950281847

check that sheet

and never ask again before checking or testing it yourself 😉

[noble escarp]

Respect

[weary palm]

Dude. I paid $12. Don't jugde me. I don't pirate stuff people are still making money out of.

[hollow badger]

definitely judgeing

crap spelled it right by accident

nvm me carry on

[weary palm]

I mind you

you're minded

[daring meteor]

• The two Japanese games

[orchid nimbus]

Let me point it out: USA USA USA 😉

[lament escarp]

Is that something like USB?

[solemn maple]

In my day it was called USSR

[spare meadow]

Xeno Crisis is working? Is there some workaround?

[lilac scroll]

Maybe Robert misspoke and he meant only one commercial game wouldn’t be working by Xmas

[brisk drum]

Indeed comrade

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-cat-sovicat-soviet-ussr-cat-gif-21826197

[last scarab]

did you encounter any graphical issues?

[native mesa]

Nothing Robert isn't aware of

[wanton sun]

MM has the same "one polygon missing every 3 minutes" bug as OoT and i think some white lines in some effects

[last scarab]

Keep up the good work man!

[native mesa]

Y'all see Mike Chi is joining mars ? Looks like we have a legit successor on our hands

[languid dune]

More updates today!? Another fun day of testing!

[lament escarp]

I'll still connect my rt4k to my mister, I'm a rebel like that.

[native mesa]

I think what ill do is rather than get a second mister and 4k just hold out for mars

And keep my mister connected to the CRT and Mars for my 4k LED

[vapid hawk]

i grabbed a morph in the sale, pretty cheap for a 4k scaler to add-on to mister

[native mesa]

I get everything is open source but it's a pretty bold statement to say all cores will be ported day 1. Unless they gotta a bunch of core devs to sign on

[fair stump]

#fpga-platforms

[hollow badger]

Kirby Crystal shards had a wierd graphical glitch where a big diagonal black line went across part of the screen from lower left to half way to the center of the screen

but that was on the composite core

[chrome quest]

Where was the Kirby glitch? Repeatable?

[hollow badger]

1st level. i don't remember the conditions unfortunately

i should start capturing footage for just such occasions.

and it happened before the mid boss

[vapid hawk]

using composite?

[hollow badger]

yeah

on a crt

maybe it was a cable?

[vapid hawk]

on the build from yesterday?

[hollow badger]

yeah

[vapid hawk]

N64YCBeta_20231124.rbf

[jade bay]

i dont have editing privileges but i beat snowboard kids 2 so it should be marked as completeable

[vapid hawk]

hmmm, hard to be sure without seeing it but that'd be an extreme artifact for a cable to generate

[hollow badger]

ill do more testing tomorrow. hella cleaning house rn

[wanton sun]

cannot reproduce. Was that for 1 frame or longer?

[mossy vector]

If you want diagonal black lines, the Mario Golf trees do that. I am hoping to find a textured cube demo program somewhere.

[jade bay]

^yeah

i dont own an original cart so i cant confirm if its a bug or not but i thought it was odd

[cerulean elk]

VO done. Gonna go at 3 today I think

[lament escarp]

FINALLY

[weary palm]

Interesting that GoldenEye (J) gets further than (U). It's a later build.

[cerulean elk]

lol I said I was taking the day off yesterday

and Ive got a whole other turkey cooking today

cajun style. Decorate tree later. Got some new wifi plugs to "smartify" the tree...4K capture card arriving later. Project day

holiday's are like three day affairs for us always. Thanksgiving, yesterday hang with friends and a szechuan feast with lots of booze, thanksgiving 2 today

[weary palm]

guys. I just ...

I just jumped from a dam.

[vapid hawk]

i thought that was still crashing

[native mesa]

How many years did it take

[weary palm]

A few minutes

[native mesa]

D:

[chilly ember]

You managed to get to end of the level?

Niice

[weary palm]

A god damn miracle it didn't crash. Firing the gun seems to make it crash more.

yup yp

[vapid hawk]

oh nice heh

you have to fire at least one shot to open that gate 😄

[chilly ember]

Bond forgot his bungee cord

[weary palm]

look at my save file. I made history today. xD

[chilly ember]

Now if it doesn't crash before you can get out of the ducts in facility

[weary palm]

Crash. xD

I just wanted to see that hat fly

no error code

[chilly ember]

Yea i figured haha

[cerulean elk]

It’s fun seeing anything goldeneye run

Same with Conker

[native mesa]

only J rom gets that far?

I can only get a screenshot of dam basically before crash

[chilly ember]

Japanese version doesn't crash instantly for whatever reason

It still crashes but you can sometimes play for a few seconds or if you're really lucky like yxkalle you can finish dam

There's cheat codes you can enter to unlock levels too, that's how i got to play silo for 15 seconds

[wanton sun]

Just play with instruction cache off. It will crash at the same spot, but you can play 20 times longer until there 😛

[weary palm]

Du bist aber smart

[wanton sun]

thankfully the US version crashes so fast. I have 2 ingame savestates that crash within 0-3 frames, so hopefully i can find the reason

[solemn maple]

How's the performance in GE close to OG hardware?

[chilly ember]

It's not far off from the little testing i did but real hardware runs better as far as i can tell

[wanton sun]

Yes, it should be slower currently due to no datacache for TLB

[orchid nimbus]

pray to the mighty cowgod!

[pine apex]

Raski's MVS emulator is working

[weary palm]

sometimes GE crashes with E10

[weary palm]

Aren't all gods cows? Unpopular opinion.

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hha-3aWEtGI

[modern sleet]

I have a fresh build if it's urgent

Regression bad yesterday?

please test, and if all is well ill push it out.

[weary palm]

Of course it's urgent.

[hollow badger]

them controller redesigns are urgent...

[weary palm]

Am I the only one who is in need of a small deadzone being added to the joypad emulator in MiSTer main? My ps2 controller has some serious drifting.

[chrome quest]

Something happened to the Japan page of the testing sheet

[native mesa]

When the goemon drum track kicks in

[daring meteor]

Beetle Adventure Racing! (Japan).z64

[chrome quest]

Someone else in there with me, I pasted back in "Beetle Adventure Racing! (Japan).z64"

[daring meteor]

Its this

Its me

[viscid gate]

At one point it would sometimes boot if force WB was on

[daring meteor]

Should probably update the notes but whatever

[chrome quest]

I think the rest lines up with an old local copy I had. Thanks for confirming

[weary palm]

Really? Do you know if this game supports SRAM32k? The header suggests it does...

[viscid gate]

Not sure - I never got the physical cart, but the digital ROM package had 2 versions, one with a header change for everdrive if I recall, the readme said something about that but not sure if that was for save type?

[zinc dawn]

Nope.

[carmine kettle]

xeno crisis works sometimes if you adjust the ddr/cache setting but crashes still

[weary palm]

added some deadzone to n64_joy_emu.cpp .. wish me luck. haven't done trigonometry in a while, but I know my arctan. 🙂

[jade bay]

My favorite camera app I use broke with the pixel 8 so if anyone has any suggestions for a new one with ISO adjustments, let me know

[daring meteor]

Completable, no errors?

I will update the sheet

[weary palm]

but apperently I can still confuse my cos's and sin's

xD

[daring meteor]

Its cos you forgot the 7 deadly sins

[chrome quest]

You need to "catch a herring"
(That does not sound pleasant, thank you childhood maths teacher. I guess I remember it?)

[sly wasp]

You can mark attachments like this as spoilers by adding the attachment to your message and then clicking the Mark as Spoiler "eye" icon before you send your message.

[daring meteor]

Is the Mario Tennis 64 screen really a spoiler?

[sly wasp]

People have said in the past they prefer to earn screens like that for themselves so I guess it does spoil it for some people

[frail jolt]

The guitarist of green jelly lives 3 houses down from my mother in law....fun fact

[jade bay]

No errors afaik

[frail jolt]

Well one of the guitarists thar was in the band

[orchid nimbus]

heh - I was going to ask 😉

[daring meteor]

Alright, I'll say its completed by Velius

[quasi storm]

Can I just say, Mario Tennis is such a treat! It's so cool to see the game works without all the issues that plagued emulators for so long!

[weary palm]

my controller must be pretty worn... I had to set the dead zone to 16 (out of 128) for it to stop drifting...

[daring meteor]

I don't know what you're talking about (I use hall effect controller)

[weary palm]

lame

I use a dual shock 2 like the god damn dinosaur I am

[chrome quest]

I heard tell of a new error @orchid nimbus had added to the site.
Not sure if anyone else has seen this one yet?
E8000000, on Perfect Dark (PAL)

[orchid nimbus]

I mirrored FPGAZumSpass' bits

should be up to data

[lament escarp]

I asked 8bitdo for a halleffekt/bt kit for dualshock 2, they still haven't done it. 😟

[weary palm]

would it be strange if I added a dead-zone config row into the database file? xD

i don't know where else to put it

[chrome quest]

Is it possible such a modification could otherwise be more general for use across other cores?
I've got a few twitchy analog sticks too, just curious

[compact depot]

Getting an error with downloader.sh related to N64-database.txt

[weary palm]

Yeah, that would be nice, actually

[compact depot]

Any clues?

[weary palm]

what does it say

[compact depot]

Not much

It just doesn’t seem to download/update it

[weary palm]

I don't use this downloader.sh . what is it?

[compact depot]

What? Lol

[weary palm]

I use update_all, is that the same thing

[compact depot]

It’s the OFFICIAL MiSTer update script

update_all is not official

Both are from the same developer though

[weary palm]

update_all downloads WAREZ

[compact depot]

Will manually grab that txt from the repo

Dammit

[weary palm]

I have probably used update.sh a long time ago thogh 😄

will test it, wait

[compact depot]

It’s probably @orchid nimbus ‘s fault

Fix it @orchid nimbus

[weary palm]

I mean downloader.sh xD

it's not even in my scripts folder wth

I'm a phooney

[compact depot]

lol

[latent galleon]

downloader.sh is what update_all runs

amongst other things

[weary palm]

so how can I've been using update_all without downloader.sh

I also got the N64-database.txt error

hm

https://vampier.net/N64/N64-database.txt is no more. Is that the reason?

[latent galleon]

they aren't like separate things

All-in-one script for keeping up-to-date with the MiSTer ecosystem. This script runs the MiSTer Downloader tool configured with the following databases...

[compact depot]

I think these are now downloaded from a github repo maintained by szumspass

[latent galleon]

it doesn't literally run downloader.sh, it is just the same thing

they may even be the same script with different names

[weary palm]

The db.json points towards https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_ROM_Database/main/N64-database.txt so I don't understand what's to cause of this.

[compact depot]

Does it have more than one entry in the DB?

[latent galleon]

ok i just realized what channel this is

[compact depot]

Because it appears more than once here

Which is weird

When running downloader.sh

[daring meteor]

Why is the deadzone part of the database fine?

[weary palm]

found the issue...
the db.json says a correctly downloaded N64-database.txt should have an md5 of
6212a0878b806195313648e3ed71977c, but it is
7770a42375041df1d437af148821ed4a
it also says its size should be
37,751 bytes, but it is
37,961 bytes

The issue is that the json isn't updated

It was only two hours since I edited it. how often are the downloader helper files updated?

[weary palm]

wut? There is no such part. It was just a proposition.

[daring meteor]

Like deadzone settings should not be core specific, no?

[weary palm]

I will keep it in my local repo, don't worry

I don't think a global setting will happen, though.

[compact depot]

md5 fuck up. Dammit

[weary palm]

Must be that this GitHub Action hasn't been running in a while https://github.com/RobertPeip/Mister64/blob/main/.github/workflows/build.yml

six and a half hours ago

[visual mortar]

Hello Robert ( @wanton sun ) by curiosity, how many percent logic is used at this stade??

[chilly ember]

Think last he said was about 83-84%

[latent galleon]

😓

[cerulean elk]

5 minute to more TLB video fun

[random portal]

HURRY UP!

[cerulean elk]

lol I hid a funny easter egg in the thumbnail too....hope someone notices

[random portal]

let me see? post it 😆

[chrome quest]

@wanton sun Perhaps useful region difference for visual bug.
"Gauntlet Legends (Japan)", player select screen is missing displayed text that explains button usage (A=Select, B=Cancel, etc.). YouTube video seems to confirm menu text should display with English text prompts as on other versions.
Both NTSC and PAL versions don't have this issue, show the text on screen for player select.

[cerulean elk]

vid is loose

[oblique crow]

huzzah

[cerulean elk]

see who spots the goofy easter egg in the thumb first

[chrome quest]

Mr Bond displaying his uncharacteristic humanly thin head?

[knotty zealot]

one eye for each of the letters. tlb

[cerulean elk]

its there somewhere

[mortal panther]

"Slippy. James Slippy."

[cerulean elk]

lolol yep

hiding in the background...just one eye

[oblique crow]

ive been baited!

[mortal panther]

007 PinkEye

[oblique crow]

You baited me Bacon!

I booted up goldeneye thinking it was playable at least

sadge

[cerulean elk]

haha yeah I am sure someone will go comment that but the title is V clear..."ish"

thanks too @chilly ember for some of the footage!

[mortal panther]

I love this core so much.

[oblique crow]

Bacon cameo

[fallen sparrow]

I second that, @chilly ember is awesome

[languid dune]

One could say that he is an insanely good friend.

[mortal panther]

A great ass hat asset!

[orchid nimbus]

The database went to GitHub

I just hosted it for a few weeks

https://vampier.net/N64/getlast.php

Here is the latest JSON (cannot be used with update all)

[nimble needle]

There’s a second Easter egg too. The guard behind Conker has his conker out 🫣

[oblique crow]

gotta block it for the childrens

[random portal]

Y/C chads, no Y/C test build out yet 😩

[hollow rune]

Mario Tennis running well now?

[solid crest]

#1096015979055697940 message

[hollow rune]

Also does anything need data from other testers?

[random portal]

I have an unrelated question.
How can I get Mario Kart 64 to save ghosts? When I press start, it shows this.

I need to supply saves to some guys who make save file tools and it will help them a lot if I supply a plain save (freshly made by the core), and one with progress on it like ghost data.

here's the github issue I opened in case you guys have infro to contribute.
https://github.com/bryc/mpkedit/issues/20

[fallen sparrow]

Really well

[daring meteor]

Does someone know if Hi Pi Paradise 2 is in the database?

It uses wrong CIC for me

[mossy vector]

That's the problem though. The worn controller will still have that dead spot even if you software compensate for it. Hit it with a hammer and discard it.

[random portal]

OH OK, I figured it out. I have to do an uninterrupted run.
If I press pause, it stops "recording"

[daring meteor]

I've updated the Aleck64 list

The controls for the Mahjong games are kinda hard to find online

If anyone wants I can put them somewhere on the list

[chrome quest]

Maybe also consider using the latest unstable MiSTer? (If your not already)
I'm not aware if the "final" save file method is really established yet, but if signs are the main core usage will eventually move the new unstable form with split sav, mpak, tpak data, maybe that's what you'd want to send along?

[daring meteor]

I put em under the list, kinda strange but they are hard to find so

[random portal]

I let them know that an experimental save splitting method is being tested. For now, I'm gonna send them the saves as they are created on the stable main until the save splitting is implemented. Although, I should be sending them preliminary saves with the splitting method.

[daring meteor]

@weary palm if you mind later, Please update database to include Hi Pai 2, missing Aleck64 game

[random portal]

I don't know if this has anything to do with the MiSTer main split save test or the y/c core, but the music was stuck looping a particular sound.

also, gonna confirm that the newest MiSTer Main test build for split saves does what it says and I can load games not on the database.
#test-builds message

oh wow, I see, so it just doesn't create the split save files. Gonna try loading a counterpart that is on the database and see if it creates it for the un-databased ROM.
-nope, doesn't work. will need to learn how to add items to the database.

[cerulean elk]

Multitasking

[frail jolt]

Sorry if this is a reask....how is snac doing?

[random portal]

thanks for asking, snac is doing ok.

https://tenor.com/view/chewing-pig-blanket-piggy-piglet-gif-16589157

[modern sleet]

Does the build work ?

I didn't get a message back haha

[random portal]

yeah, but there was an audio glitch I experienced in Mario Kart 64 that I need to run more tests on

[hollow rune]

Where is it?

[modern sleet]

It's the same as Roberts just yc enabled

[random portal]

luigi stadium if you spam mushrooms i think

[modern sleet]

Thanks, I've pushed the update to git. I assume this issue is the same on the one Robert released today as well

I'm out of town so I'm doing remote builds and can't test 🙂

[random portal]

I was using today's build with the MiSTer split save test so I cannot be sure what caused it or if it's just a general bug that slipped by

oh and it happened during time trial

if it matters, I was using bowser

[zinc dawn]

Goldeneye is better than Percect dark. Change my mind. 😉

[random portal]

https://tenor.com/view/caitlin-snow-lobotomy-you-gif-13757037

[trim seal]

No. You're stuck liking what you like.

[zinc dawn]

I really like Perfect Dark. I just think Goldeneye has better levels, better music and Jimmy B.

[chilly ember]

I like both but Goldeneye has more fun levels. I like perfect dark but some levels are meh. Goldeneye has some meh levels too

[zinc dawn]

Yeah streets is one of them

The framerate is slightly better on GE also

Indeed. The crazy mods also. I'm hoping one day Goldeneye X gets finished.

Have you tried the high resolution patch on GE? It's pretty darned good.

[plush summit]

So far, all dungeons are compleatable in Majora's Mask

[last scarab]

thanks for all testing MM!

[last scarab]

this one? http://www.shootersforever.com/forums_message_boards/viewtopic.php?t=5268

[thick terrace]

hadn't tested in a while, and now Vivid Dolls works!

I tried conker and I still get a black screen

[orchid nimbus]

spreadsheet: Polaris SnoCross (USA).z64

is playable

yes it hangs but don't put it back to boots

[plush summit]

@orchid nimbus Majora's Mask is completable, All Masks obtained

[orchid nimbus]

nice

updated

thanks

[tropic cove]

Has anyone tried the OoT, in the water temple to find out if that part is like in n64?

[chilly ember]

Yes the water temple still sucks

[tropic cove]

Yes, that's not going to change, but in the part of the fight with the shadow, does the water look good?

[languid dune]

That was the part where Nintendo's own emulator on Switch really failed at first. They've since fixed it, but it took multiple updates for them to finally get it right.

[chilly ember]

It's been a couple ish months since I played it so it probably looks alot better. I believe it's better than whatever was going on during the early days of switch release

[tropic cove]

Thank you, I had that doubt, the truth is that switch was rubbish

[desert nest]

Is SNAX support only provided by the Sept 1 build listed on the MiSTer Addons product page? Tried getting a couple N64 controllers working via the SNAX breakout box the other day but couldn't get it working when setting two of the controllers to SNAC in the latest core menu.

[elfin depot]

SNAX was working for me on the latest (as of yesterday) build.

[desert nest]

Interesting... any trick to getting it working? I had two controllers plugged in via Reflex Adapt, and another two controllers via SNAX. Only the Reflex Adapt controllers were working.

[elfin depot]

I was using all 4 as snac ports. Which controller ports did you set to be snac?

[desert nest]

1 and 2 were N64Pad, 3 and 4 were SNAC

[elfin depot]

Try it with one and two as snac and the other two as your reflex, I think when you use snack it occupies the lowest ports first

(maybe)

[desert nest]

Alright I'll give that a shot, I thought I tried that as well but maybe I had something set wrong.

We were trying to get some 4P Mario Party going for Thanksgiving heh.

[desert crow]

yeah that would be the problem, right now with snax left port is n64 port 1. right is port 2. activate snac for those two.

usb will be harder because i don't the the first one you push a button on will be port 3

[desert nest]

Awesome, glad it's just user error. Thanks for the help fellas. 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

well it seems most modes are implemented / TLB is coming along nicely... 96% of the US games are playable

a few odd bugs here and there.... a bunch of weird crashes.... dragonlib doesn't play nice etc.

[eternal ravine]

Still a month before Christmas!

[wanton sun]

you got the new error flag? where exactly? reproducible?

[orchid nimbus]

I need to adjust the size of the table or people need to scale the page to 100% in order to see the errors.... or I just need to just display the errors

it's getting a pretty long error overview 😄

[wanton sun]

i should clean the list up, some of them are kind of outdated

[orchid nimbus]

ok

that's another option 🙂

I just have an array that i add/remove stuff from

https://vampier.net/N64/script.js

[compact lark]

Am the only one that can't COMPLETELY play the entirety of the opening cutscene to Donkey Kong 64?
It's become a black screen halfway through it.

[zealous hull]

Booting DK64 up now. What do you mean when you say opening cutscene? DK Rap? Or the new game scene?

iirc, there shouldn't be a problem with either, but regressions etc etc

[orchid nimbus]

i didn't get Paper Mario to crash ingame - but it's pretty consistent when you let the intro play out

like that movie showed yesterday

[zealous hull]

Yep, same. I'm putting PM through its paces for sure.

[orchid nimbus]

also - what a nice game Paper Mario is 🙂

[zealous hull]

My second favorite game ever. ❤️ So much charm.

[chilly ember]

Paper Mario great

I got through the donkey Kong 64 opening cutscene

[zealous hull]

Yep, same.

[compact lark]

New Game Scene

[zealous hull]

Yeah, InsaneFriend and I both got through it fine.

Have you played it on the core before and this just started happening? Or is this your first playthrough?

[orchid nimbus]

it seems that Nintendo was ontop of their game with the N64

a lot of innovation - but the PSX was already wreaking havoc

PSX Release Date December 3, 1994
N64 Release Date September 29, 1996

imagine that the N64 would have had a bigger storage medium

[mossy needle]

Paper mario has crashed consistently in 2 places for me. Once with the Buzzard in the 2nd chapter when he throws feathers. It is an optional battle so not too big of a problem. The biggest issue is the Ghost mini boss in the ShyGuy toy Box where you get Watt. When he uses the light rays as an attack, it freezes.

The Buzzard crashed with no music and no error code, the Ghost crashed with music and 820 Error

[zealous hull]

Yeah, using an existing save where I already have Watt shows a lot of graphical issues with her attacks as well. Seems the core doesn't like Paper Mario's electricity element.

[compact lark]

Wait a minute. I'm trying again now (from a fresh reboot of my Mister) and it went through.
Weird.

[zealous hull]

So strange. Glad it's working though!

[mossy needle]

We'll probably have to wait before PM gets fixed to finish it

Unless someone figured out a workaround

[zealous hull]

Yeah. To be honest, I wasn't really expecting to play PM on the core before 2024...or possibly even at all. Robert is the best.

[mossy needle]

It's amazing it all really works at all to be honest

[zealous hull]

I was one of the people trying to temper expectations by saying "TLB games may never happen", but I'm very happy to be proven wrong. 🙂

[mossy needle]

I'm fine waiting

[wanton sun]

the intro of paper mario works with datacache off at the point the electricity appears, so i could imagine the same for the ingame version of it

[zealous hull]

Oh that's interesting! I'll give that a try tomorrow morning.

[wanton sun]

it's one of the best reproducible bugs, so i will try to fix it, but i cannot promise anything yet

[zealous hull]

Like I said, I wasn't even certain Paper Mario was going to happen at all. Take all the time you need. 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun 29 days till Christmas 🙂 you're 'slightly' ahead of schedule 😄

[zealous hull]

Only 1 game won't be booting before christmas.

[wanton sun]

i might take 2 weeks off around christmas with the family, can you forgive me? 🙂

[mossy needle]

We'll be fine! Go enjoy the holidays with your family

[zealous hull]

I think many of us would be more upset if you didn't take some holiday time off. 🙂

[pale granite]

at this rate its going to be "1 game still not playable at Christmas"

[zealous hull]

yxkalle's unstable main is brilliant. everything is saving in the correct formats. it's perfect.

I renamed my existing Pokemon Yellow save on the core to the correct .tpk format and now all of my MiSTer Pokemon seem to be showing up.

Question for those with more knowledge than me:

Would it technically be possible to have the core use a .tpk save that would match the name of the GB game that you're loading in?

i.e. if one selects "Pokemon Gold.gbc" via GB-Transfer could the MiSTer create and use a "Pokemon Gold.tpk"? That way one could symlink the saves together across cores.

[solemn maple]

Enjoy the holidays, Robert. We've got enough games working to keep us entertained for the coming months 🙂

[dreamy kayak]

It’s still garbage. Yoshi’s story has massive framedrops, and F-Zero X runs at around 55 fps. Also no saving in controller pak games

[languid dune]

I was specifically referring to the shadow Link room in the Water Temple. Trust me, I'm well aware of the other problems!

[zealous hull]

Wait, you seriously can't save in CPak games? I didn't realize it was that bad.

[chrome quest]

Perfect Dark (PAL) had the 8000000. Straight from boot iirc
Confirmed from boot, using latest unstable MiSTer too

[plucky nymph]

I've got a little qn about saves. What's the .sav file format? Is there a repository of compatible save files on the web?

Or more specifically, does anyone have a 100% OoT sav file they can share?

[mossy needle]

The Ghost miniboss in Paper Mario in the Shy Guy Tou Box is beatable with data cache off

As Robert predicted.

[wanton sun]

thank you

[hasty musk]

Family and Friends Core
has high priority in Logic
So enjoy your Temp Feature Holiday. It does not cost much logic but let Ram and Cpu stress go away.

[chrome quest]

Suggestion for people on the test sheet.
Should we be sure to note where the Error codes occur? I've been adding the when/where/how to the PAL notes (had missed PD until this morning).

Might be worth trying to do generally. There's a few games (like Kirby64), where the error section can be quite specific, and hopefully avoids the next tester coming along and removing the error code from a casual test.

[knotty zealot]

they occur up in the top left corner

[compact lark]

Tested Mario Tennis. Works pretty well though I've noticed some minor graphical imperfections (dots in the shadows, straight lines in the "VS" particle effects)
Screenshots care of @fallen sparrow

Also, just realized that the OST is by Motoi Sakuraba. So that's why it's giving PS1 RPG.

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks. I played a bit of Mario Tennis last night.

[compact lark]

The game sure has lots of fancy shmancy graphical effects.

[zinc dawn]

http://n64vault.com/ge-misc:goldeneye-hi-res nope this is the one I mean. It makes GE lag a little more especially levels like Cradle but maybe when the cores finished Robert can implement a turbo mode or something?

[tropic sand]

Take time off with family... 1 million percent 🥰... we'll cope with the 1 playable game you've given us (Superman)

[compact lark]

Yeah, barring some very minor imperfections, it looks very good on the core. It's on another level compared to how it used to look like on emulators (project64 screenshots below circa 2015)

[wanton sun]

the game uses 8bit modes for some effects. This mode is only very rarely used in games, so i haven't had many possibilities to debug it

can take a look again when the other high important bugs are fixes...so next year 😅

[rare flint]

a problem in Mario Tennis is the service line of the tennis field that becomes suddenly curved when you serves

[viscid gate]

Was Conker another that used 8-bit for various things? Might be why bit of him are black

[wanton sun]

as far as i remember the 8bit error in my emulator only triggered at the point where he goes into the tavern, not in the chainsaw scene, but i can't say for sure

[chrome quest]

PAL Conker had a consistent E10 error as N64 logo fades out as I tested (not button mashing at that bit). Never did get to see his face, or the tavern (yet)

[knotty zealot]

i think playing perfect dark on oled is very meta

[solemn marlin]

Why, because it's a game set in the future?

[zinc dawn]

With the TLB patch does Perfect Dark run better?

[plush summit]

Did you just make an actually funny joke? 🤯🤯🤯

[mild ether]

Rumor has it that it does.

[zinc dawn]

I need something to tide me over until goldeneye. I sold my n64

[vapid hawk]

it runs a lot faster with that patch but it also isn't completable apparently

scripting breaks on a later level

[native mesa]

Trying to sell mine now. Just got the ebay listing up

[zinc dawn]

Nice I got £300 for mine but only made £230 after bloody ebay fees. Don't use promotions lol

That's with an everdrive!

And borti rgb/component board

[native mesa]

I'm hoping for 500 USD. Voultar RGB + component cable + everdrive X7 + wireless brawler64

Sounds like you got a similar value

[zinc dawn]

Yeah much better than the last one I sold (130 bucks) no everdrive before ebay fees. Now there's so many hdmi mods out there.

And the X7 is better cart. I sold it off with those crappy retrobit tribute controllers. Kept my OG ones

[native mesa]

People here love those tribute controllers

[hollow badger]

This man gets it.

[weary palm]

yes, but it wont drift

[native mesa]

Get a fresh DS3

[compact lark]

You mean this right?
Yeah after looking through real hardware captures, its not supposed to look like that.

Still, happy that Mario Tennis is otherwise almost complete visually.

[knotty zealot]

my jokes are always funny and they always hit home

[cerulean elk]

So long as we can play one game by then I think we will understand!

[wanton sun]

i will do my best to make that work!

[cyan berry]

Is there room in the core for cheats at some point??

[wanton sun]

maybe, i haven't yet evalutated how they could work

[cyan berry]

Ok cool, I’m just discovering how bad I am at n64 games these days and was hoping for some help to see the end of some games, it’s good to know it may happen in the future

And yes take some time of at Xmas, you certainly deserve it

[knotty zealot]

i say slave away on a christmas build on christmas eve, come hell or high water

if the wife needs to be sacrificed... so be it. this is retro gaming.

[hollow badger]

I played through the 1st level of Perfect Dark on 112423's core with almost no issue. the only wierd thing that happened was when Diana went to the elevator and faced the camera before the doors closed, a bunch of red blobs came out of the bottom of the gun.

[knotty zealot]

that was dried blood. it is known.

[hollow badger]

and there's some sound pops here and there

[cerulean elk]

I think you've done more than enough. Hang it up for a few weeks!

We got our first snow overnight so I am doing nothing today but walking around in it

[knotty zealot]

you walk around in snow while we drool in tlb

[cerulean elk]

oh Ive been playing. Got a full round of Mario Golf in last night on the couch

I need to figure out how to get a long enough HDMI cable to capture my random evening MiSTer sessions lol

[tropic sand]

Just in case this helps for later... Now available... In .gg format (cheats) https://gamehacking.org/mister/mister_n64_20231027.zip

[hollow badger]

I want to try and recreate that long black line glitch in the first level of Kirby

I need to get my capture card setup

[pallid moth]

is anyone here playing mister and specifically the n64 core on a LG C1 55 oled? Mine the image is really bad, how can you setup presets to make the image look good?

tried shadow masks, filters etc, it got way worse (too dark and grid look like).

[chrome quest]

Wondering similarly about GB saves. Curious if such handling is at MiSTer level, or also part of N64 core itself.

Not sure if you'd want symlink from my limited understanding. You'd have potentially different ROM used on a TPAK each time (Pokémon Stadium in particular).

Maybe something as game launches would copy potential TPAK GB ROM saves of Ports 1-4 into N64 save TPAK 1-4 sections (with their different file name).
Then on saving, update both N64 save, and the files in the GB save folder simultaneously. That way both GB and N64 core would be a bit like original hardware

Curious how it could work, but I'm a fairly clueless user. I'm sure others already have better ideas how it might ultimately work. Amazing any of this is possible!

[plush summit]

Can anyone modify the Compatibility tracker?

[chrome quest]

Ya, just request access on the page

[knotty zealot]

try soft or medium scanlines + retrotink agb 1 shadowmask and tweak scanline softness to your liking

[floral pawn]

I have an LG A1 and the 1080p upscaling looks horrible up close so it might just be a 4K TV thing. I just set and forget vscale=0/ interpolation/disable the N64 VI bilinear filter and it looks good enough across the room.

[rare flint]

Yes, I mean this, thanks!

[native mesa]

@hollow rune you had a similar experience didnt you?

[woeful beacon]

Question for y'all, can you setup one controller to be TWO N64 pads for SW1 racer dual stick?

I wanna try using this to replicate arcade kinda 😆

[mortal panther]

All so you can eventually shout "Now this is pod racing!" while playing.

[solemn marlin]

@daring meteor would be the guy to ask but I doubt it, I think it'd require the core to interpret one input as two controllers, seems very specific

[daring meteor]

This is exactly the option I added haha

It works oob now if its set to be two analogs

[oblique crow]

[solemn marlin]

Huh oh right, I'm dumb

[oblique crow]

https://tenor.com/9UJU.gif

[solemn marlin]

Dual analog podracer is a proper nightmare tho

[daring meteor]

Wait nevermind its Dpad and Right Stick

I think its still okay

[woeful beacon]

I'm extremely hype to get this gear in such great condition, shoutouts surugaya for that

[daring meteor]

But its gonna be pain

[woeful beacon]

Ive literally never done it

[woeful beacon]

Oh shoot these are non analog sticks

[woeful beacon]

Is the game very analog?

[daring meteor]

You can try, core rn should support it (Set 1 controller 2 players to be on P2, and set DPAD->Analog swap), but the fact they're non analog probably gonna make it a pain

[woeful beacon]

Yeah sick

[solemn marlin]

It's certainly a way to to play the game

[woeful beacon]

I'll try it anyways. Or... And I've never done this, anyone use like a REAL joystick w mister? Like a hotas?

[woeful beacon]

I am committed to playing it one of the ways off all time

[daring meteor]

I have one, maybe I'll try haha, but for the game I think you want 2 throttles

[woeful beacon]

I'll make a clip with this shout-out if I can get it to work, just for you

[woeful beacon]

I don't think that would work for the N64 version because of the controls snapping to middle tho, but for the arcade version absolutely

[solemn marlin]

I have a dual analog xone controller and I think it might be ideal, I ideally crashed into everything, but maybe it's the mode for real high level play idk

[zinc dawn]

I can't say why. I think they are cheap. The rubber disintegrates on the stick and the buttons jam up

[chrome quest]

This is a fantastic idea. I'll report back in a few hours....

[woeful beacon]

I was gonna use it for NightStriker S and/or Space Harrier on Saturn, because there is a peripheral like that, the mission stick? I think it's called?

[hollow rune]

With me it was moving black splotches on Game Mode likely something like what causes shimmer.

[mortal apex]

The second blooper fight also crashes when it uses it's electric moves, probably the same reason as the intro. Like Robert said, it seems to work with datacache off. I also tried it with data FORCE WB on instead, also works and the framerate is a bit better.

[wanton sun]

I hope the new build fixes all Paper Mario crashes. I only checked the one in the intro. Costed me 10 hours today, will do something else now 😅

[languid dune]

Will have to test out more Paper Mario today!

[chilly ember]

I might start a playthrough of paper mario now. I got to level 3 on turok 3 last night. There's only 5 levels but they're long

Frame rate isn't amazing but that's to be expected

[silent marten]

No change in Goldeneye still black screen with music playing, slight regression in Conker doesn't get to the Nintendo Logo anymore

[chilly ember]

I think last build was doing that but ECTS beta version was still getting in game

[silent marten]

Paper Mario intro played fully for me 🙂

[magic girder]

For those who have been playing - how’s the speed in paper mario? Tempted to start a new game

[languid dune]

The speed seems perfect.

[magic girder]

Sweet! Thanks

[silent marten]

Yeah I am starting a playthrough now and speed seems really good, no slowdown at all yet

[magic girder]

It’s either that or FF8 on PSX

[lament escarp]

Between quest64, aydin chronicles and paper mario, which is the best rpg on n64?

[languid dune]

Paper Mario easily.

[floral pawn]

Man that's some tough competition

[languid dune]

Or Ogre Battle if you consider it an RPG.

[magic girder]

Paper Mario or the OG Mario RPG? 🤔

[chilly ember]

I'd almost rather play paper mario but I might just be more nostalgic for it

[languid dune]

Super Mario RPG is my personal favorite Mario RPG.

[floral pawn]

Paper Mario at least has better action commands. The Mario RPG remake had to put prompts for the button timings because they don't really sync to the attack animations

[magic girder]

I liked the original. Haven’t given paper mario a try yet, but seeing all the enthusiasm for it over here has made me think that I should

[stuck summit]

I love how Robert drops a new build right after this post lol

[silent marten]

Can someone tell me where the main crash in paper mario was other that the intro? I saw someone post a screenshot of a battle

[chilly ember]

Think it was some optional bird boss

[cerulean elk]

Read notes; doesn’t sound like I need a video. Phew 😂

I’m drinking today. Not making videos. @brisk drum @languid dune doing it up Midwest style

[brisk drum]

lol @ the high life

[cerulean elk]

Snowy Chicago morning. Had a smoked lake trout and dill scramble with pork sausage. Classic Midwest lake fish banger

Off topic…get it back to N64….The trout came out of Jolly Roger bay!

(Ok he only technically appears in Dry Dry Docks 😂)

[vagrant ivy]

Dont think she would appreciate being called a lake Trout !

[chilly ember]

Awbacon if he were a fish in super mario 64

[cerulean elk]

They are on the table

🤣

[languid dune]

Forgot to mention the kringle. If you living in or near Racine, WI. The kringle is mandatory.

[mortal apex]

Just tried the second blooper fight with the newest build, no more crashes here. Can't check for Buzzar though, I overwrote my save file accidently.

[wanton sun]

thank you. I'm sure someone will check the bird soon 🙂

[mortal panther]

Thanks again for your hard work. Enjoy your time off, guys.

[paper orchid]

oh man, you got me craving a kringle

[orchid nimbus]

Cringe-l

Also good morning 🙂

[lament escarp]

Good morning mr. Vampier.

[solemn maple]

Bird is now beatable

Thanks, Robert!

[mossy needle]

Yusss

[wanton sun]

Great, thank you 🙂

Best message for the evening, i will leave now before the regressions are found 😅

[mortal panther]

You whupped it... whupped it good!

[daring meteor]

Didn't someone say something about Conker?

[knotty zealot]

and the pork sausage came from....well let's just use our imagination

[eternal ravine]

Or we could have AI imagineer it

[cerulean elk]

So just Paper Mario improvements? Which are awesome but just checking 🙂

[uncut gyro]

I just saw Devo in concert with my daughter last week 🙂

[mortal panther]

Paper Mario fixes are enough. They should be on the Ron Swanson Pyramid of Greatness. 😎

[woeful beacon]

that bloody mary is missing a lot

let me show you how its done

[stuck summit]

He was no match for Robert

[daring meteor]

Enable Dual controller

[daring meteor]

For P3 yes

[woeful beacon]

like this?

[daring meteor]

This should be right

[woeful beacon]

lets see what happens

[daring meteor]

Put the in game code if you aren't aware of it

[woeful beacon]

oh wait waht c ode

[daring meteor]

RRDUAL

[woeful beacon]

got it

uh where lol

lmao I guess I didnt use codes much

ohhh wow Z button as I type? this is wild

in the name itself

[daring meteor]

Yeah

This is just the game itself

[vapid hawk]

what game is this you're dualsticking?

[cerulean elk]

Looks good

[woeful beacon]

fuck I dunno what Z is on this thing

and im scared to redo the controls cuz I feel like I'll break it

[daring meteor]

Break what?

The Dual Controller?

[woeful beacon]

nah lol just the controls, okay let me just do it fuck it

[vapid hawk]

i think Z might always get mapped to R2 when you enable 2p1c

[woeful beacon]

thats what I thought

but its not showing the tiny letters at the bottom left

I gotta hold Z and hit L right?

[daring meteor]

When you enable 2p1c, all controls are identical but P2 Z is P1 C-Right

However you want P1 Z iirc

[woeful beacon]

yeah

I need P1Z and P1L

for this code

[daring meteor]

Yeah, those are unchanged

[woeful beacon]

dang I cant figure it out let me just remap controls fuck it

[vapid hawk]

maybe enter the code then switch to 2p1c after?

[woeful beacon]

thats what I was thinkin maybe thats smarter

but I'll remap anyways fuck it

[daring meteor]

It shouldn't matter if you're in 2p1c or not

Unless you like, map to right stick or something

[woeful beacon]

it worked with dual on

it was a mapping issue

huh im in the game and not quite workin

let me see

this is correct right?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[woeful beacon]

I didnt get the code right

it seems A is till throttle

RRDUAL I put it in, lol maybe I need to hit something after?

[daring meteor]

Yeah

[orchid nimbus]

This almost looks AI generated

[woeful beacon]

AI makes a hell of a slider in that case 😛

[daring meteor]

You select END with L

[woeful beacon]

OH

well I have one more empty slot to try lmao

[daring meteor]

You don't have to actually create a file lol

You can do it on an empty slot, activate code, go back and play on a normal slot

[woeful beacon]

YO got a "green ok"

[daring meteor]

Pog

[woeful beacon]

right stick aint workin him

code: check
left stick: check

[daring meteor]

Oh wait

[woeful beacon]

right stick: negative

[daring meteor]

Toggle Analog<-> Dpad

[orchid nimbus]

@woeful beacon like that? 😄

[woeful beacon]

back to off?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[woeful beacon]

see now

that is just some plastic shit

[daring meteor]

That'll probably switch it to only left stick haha

[woeful beacon]

k k

now right stick works

left stick doesnt

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[daring meteor]

Yeah its because it switches analog<->dpad on both sticks

[woeful beacon]

so am I fucked or what

or do I need to go back to the controller setup proper and do some cheating

will mister even allow non analog to be mapped to analog?

[daring meteor]

Yes, but 1p2c is for the analog stick

If anything the other way around is better lol

[daring meteor]

If you can make your left stick function as analog

[woeful beacon]

I'm fine with it as long as mister is fine with it

this is just for fun anyways can always fix it later

cuz yeah this device is weird

dpad on left, right stick on right 😛

let me grab a keyboard and lets try it, fuck it, we've gone this far

@daring meteor nah

mister wont lemme

https://tenor.com/view/the-summoning-bad-cat-hitting-broom-gif-10352523

[mild ether]

Cool! I saw them on their farewell tour in 1997.

Clearly it was a false alarm.

[woeful beacon]

I seem to only be able to map an analog stick to an analog control

(which btw makes sense lol)

[daring meteor]

Ah, shame lol, but makes sense
(I did have a problem where it mapped some axes the wrong way through haha)

[woeful beacon]

im kinda peeved cuz it WAS kinda workin great ( on each side respectively) lmao

could prob do it on a pc emu

[zealous hull]

I didn't even get to test a workaround on a previous build because Robert already fixed in on the current one. Damn it. He's moving faster than the testers!

[daring meteor]

You could also do it on a custom build hahaha

[woeful beacon]

I'd need a build where swap dpad to analog stick only applies to LS

but basically ignores RS

that would be the thing I need to make this work

then I can make my dpad into LS1

and RS would remain

[daring meteor]

Or remmaping some keys to P2 Dpad

Try it in a PC emulator first tho cause I don't think the experience is that great lol

[woeful beacon]

nah im good lol I've avoided n64 emus so I'll just call this a loss

I hit my limit on this funny little idea

back to Virtual On 😛

(thank you btw , gonna definitely do this on a regular dual stick pad soon! that'll be a blast)

[daring meteor]

Actually doing the swap is really easy so lemme make a build lol

[woeful beacon]

dont let me ruin your sunday but if ya got somethin I'll def goof with it as long as it doesnt involve a lot too much testing for our time haha

[daring meteor]

Its just a single change, I already did it, swap dpad now only applies to P1

[woeful beacon]

yo based geez

you're wild

I have to step away for a bit and do my morning stuff / get ready for the day but I'll be back in 30 min or so to try my hand at podracin

[daring meteor]

I'll ping you in like 10 minutes when my computer stops being loud with the file, I won't test it but probably should work lol

[paper orchid]

Oh wow, it just dawned on me like

how bad the AI is on Perfect Dark's Agent difficulty lmao

[woeful beacon]

Don't worry if it does it does, if it doesn't oh well and we move on. Still love the effort

[chrome quest]

Is P1 C-right into P2/P3 Z the only change then?
I'd searched back and saw P1 R being swapped out also used at one loy, but perhaps that was consolidated with the specific P2/P3 selection

[daring meteor]

Yes

Along with analog of course

And P2/P3 into P4

[chrome quest]

Ahh. Did you find some did work in multiplayer?

[daring meteor]

?

I think all games support multiplayer

[chrome quest]

Well, with the 2p1c mode. iirc pod racer didn't do the dual control mode in multiplayer, and I thought there was uncertainty on either Goldeneye or PD. Might just be completely misremebering.

[daring meteor]

The uncertinty was because of the multiple modes

But since most of the work is by mister main now, its no problem

[weary palm]

I'm a potato.

Sorry wrong channel.

[solemn marlin]

Yea this channel is for funny gifs

[zinc dawn]

By the time I've fixed these cabs...Goldeneye will be ready 😆

[solemn marlin]

Imagine.. a goldeneye cabinet

[weary palm]

Hm

Building such a cabinet would be an odd job.

[solemn marlin]

They were making it a lightgun game at first so that would complete the circle

[zinc dawn]

I did a genesis cabinet in a stand up naomi cab. It's sweeeet

[weary palm]

Naomi that's like DC, right?

[zinc dawn]

Yeah pretty much.

Alot of the Naomi games were ported to DC

[weary palm]

Does it have the dolls that are vivid?

[solemn marlin]

That's cool but damn it if I wouldn't prefer naomi games+dc on that, such a cool looking cab tho

[vapid moat]

Paper Mario's working full now? Gotta import my save then~

[weary palm]

Like a DC with extra dededotated wam or something.

[zinc dawn]

Unfortunately not my friend. I could put the game on a emu cab but I bet I'd get a few raised eyebrows from parents

[zinc dawn]

Yeah we do. Got another 20 of em coming.

Got a crazy taxi one too

[weary palm]

Some of the girls in that game are probably grandparents now.

[solemn marlin]

Just rebuild the room into a seedy cellar arcade where such media wouldn't be out of place

[vapid moat]

Maybe when MARS + DC-core for it gets released

[solemn marlin]

I was under the impression that the naomi could play dc or the other way around, was I dreaming?

[weary palm]

DC core? Is that in the realms of possibilities?

[zinc dawn]

You can play naomi games (ports) and Sega Sammy atomiseave on DC

*atomiswave

[zinc dawn]

That's just my little workshop lol.

Maybe I could have an 'adults only' section

[velvet nexus]

gauntlet legends is running (walking)

[solemn marlin]

Make it a smokers aracade, I don't smoke anymore but that's the ideal imo, just smutty games in a thick fog

[velvet nexus]

I agree with this

[velvet nexus]

I don't think there is enough bandwidth or logic for the mister to handle DC

I also think that that was the last system where latency would be much of an issue

[oblique crow]

Y'all heard N64 was impossible, you get ONE CORE, and then go "Naomi? DC? Gamecube? PS2? XBOX? 360? PS5"

[velvet nexus]

always felt that the n64 was the last system that needed an fpga

[oblique crow]

[velvet nexus]

thanks dave

[oblique crow]

np sibling from another cribling

[velvet nexus]

I will say there are still niches that MAY be filled out

cps3

taito systems

[solemn marlin]

Same, it still emulates like ass, this is really the last say in n64 emulation, the rest can be software emulated

[velvet nexus]

but we still don't know that it will actually be complete

[oblique crow]

thankfully, we're nearing the end of bespoke hardware in the consoles, the last really major non x86 stuff was the 360/ps3 era

[velvet nexus]

for now

[oblique crow]

true, if ARM/RISC-V takes off, we could see RISC based consoles in the future

it would not surprise me

[velvet nexus]

I could see someone pull out some exotic gaming arc

we had risc based in the past

risc gaming is nothing new at all

[zinc dawn]

I miss the old days

[solemn marlin]

I'm content with what's already there, it really is better than anything software emulated, robert will pull through

[zinc dawn]

The aroma of cigarettes. Now i gotta put up with BO instead

[velvet nexus]

I'm in a weird boat that I have a very specific title that I want running correctly, and it isn't super popular

[solemn marlin]

Arcade board? Or for n64

[velvet nexus]

n64

[solemn marlin]

Is it niche title goldeneye 64?

[velvet nexus]

gauntlet legends

[solemn marlin]

I'm happy after bomberman got there tbh, ah yes

[zinc dawn]

Yes. Indeed. I'm sure I'd have a client base

[solemn marlin]

I love retro games and smoking, might've been a japanese salaryman in a previous life, can't believe the non-smokers had to ruin it

Tho I guess it's a pretty punishing environment for stuff you've refurbished lol

[velvet nexus]

I miss smoking

depends on the games, really

if there's no fans covering the components with dust older games would be fine

stuff needing cooling, different story

[solemn marlin]

I guess they're fine but they'll reek.. I stayed up a weekend just smoking playing megaman for the nes, rewarding myself after each boss with a drag

[velvet nexus]

the first mega man?

[solemn marlin]

The three first I think

[woeful beacon]

enter the quasicade

this shit makes me laugh so much

[oblique crow]

ok what the hell aktane

thats not just woodgrain

its just a cabinet

[woeful beacon]

yo but

[oblique crow]

MY GRANDMOTHER HAD A CABINET LIKE THAT!

[oblique crow]

hahahahha

[woeful beacon]

doesnt this compel you

because this would EVER

happen

EVER

[oblique crow]

I have been compelled

[eternal ravine]

wut

[solemn marlin]

This bad boy can store so much folded linen

[woeful beacon]

bedsheets? we got you

fuckin socks? lets go

[solemn marlin]

This is an abomination

[eternal ravine]

Hard to know what's AI at this point

[woeful beacon]

oh

you dare

disbelief!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115949261104

you're in luck buddy its in stock

arent you excited to play the sega genesis classic game of virtua fighter on a ps2 with this

[eternal ravine]

My body will be broken like Quasimoto if I use those SFII layouts

[woeful beacon]

this isnt a layout

its modern art

[velvet nexus]

needs a trackball

[eternal ravine]

"Let's see, some buttons here will really complete the composition"

[woeful beacon]

it needs a lightgun except its real so I can put it to my head

[solemn marlin]

I could ask for open casket funeral in that thing, just have my head where the crt is

[woeful beacon]

genius

also you better have a big ass head

https://www.retroblast.com/reviews/quasicade.html if you guys arent dead yet from this amazing content, enjoy this legitimate review of the product

[chrome quest]

Now THIS is pod racing!

[woeful beacon]

YOU DID IT!!!!

two hotas's ?

wtf!!!!

[velvet nexus]

you can't really have 2 hotas

[woeful beacon]

okay fine stickler

2 hos's

[velvet nexus]

there you go

[woeful beacon]

sorry principal

[chrome quest]

It is the system I could aford at the time 🤣 Both were cheap, could program the second hand to work a bit like a throttle. Hey, perfect for pod racing

[woeful beacon]

judging from the deadzone on these controls Im now more salty my digital sticks dont work yet, I bet they'd actually be better

[velvet nexus]

I need a hotas

[woeful beacon]

get a X they're cheap and fine

[eternal ravine]

Pod Racer is actually good?

[velvet nexus]

I have a racing wheel

[woeful beacon]

Pod Racer is beyond good

one of the best games ever made its so fun

[eternal ravine]

Are there random farts like the movie

[woeful beacon]

this is a serious game for serious gamers Bob

[eternal ravine]

Well, then

[woeful beacon]

the only farts will be your ship as it crashes into a wall of ice at 8000 parsecs per second

[eternal ravine]

Dang, I'm sold

[velvet nexus]

we're talking n64 pod racer?

[woeful beacon]

nah we're talking about the dreamcast version on the n64 thread

[eternal ravine]

Gonna need salve for that burn

[velvet nexus]

we could be... did they put it on the DC?

[woeful beacon]

yes

and its good there too

[eternal ravine]

Even Wii got some decent SW gaming

[woeful beacon]

pc version exists as well which is where I played it mostly as a kid, cuz no console affordability

now they ported it to switch and its ruined

that port is a fucking trash fire

do not buy do not play

wrong kinda fart on that one

[eternal ravine]

The finished N64 core will allow me to sit back and be smug

[magic girder]

Curious, how come?

[eternal ravine]

But I am worried about all the interlaced video, as I don't have a good CRT

And I deffo want to play the expansion pak games
Especially if Robert adds some turbo mode or something

[daring meteor]

Interlaced video, the bane of existance for LCD users

[eternal ravine]

It's rough

[velvet nexus]

agreed

[eternal ravine]

Makes me want to buy a scaler and run analog output into it first

I have some absurd 34" HD CRT by Philips, but that's degrading back at my parents house

[woeful beacon]

all kinds of shit, its like the cutscenes break, the UI is trash, the graphics are not well ported either, they're like a mix between PC and N64 and yet they took the worst parts of both

[vapid hawk]

didn't they recently re-release a slightly modernized podracer

yeah its on ps4 etc

[woeful beacon]

thats literally what im sayin is trash

it was like missing textures too, im trying to remember, its been while

I was very disappointed

[vapid hawk]

bummer

[magic girder]

That sucks. I was considering getting it, but I’ll just stick with the N64 and DC versions

[eternal ravine]

Everything is not as good as it used to be

[vapid hawk]

there's an arcade version of it by sega aswell - totally different game though

[velvet nexus]

I wonder why a manufacturer hasn't keyed in on the fact that CRTs have become a rare find

there's a lot of kids with grown up money now

[vapid hawk]

you can't just magically make new crts you need an enormous glass smelting foundry thing

probs millions upfront

[velvet nexus]

that makes sense, freddo

[eternal ravine]

Get Elon Musk on it

[vapid hawk]

can we 3d print glass yet?

[velvet nexus]

probably

but not optical grade

[woeful beacon]

I think on this one, yeah best to stick with DC probably for like the "quality"

[vapid hawk]

the DC one is like, 480p and possibly 60fps too?

[eternal ravine]

DC rules

[vapid hawk]

thats my favorite

[little socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaWzEIsxDLM
there you go

[eternal ravine]

They will have to wrestle my DC from my cold, dead hands

[woeful beacon]

https://twitter.com/TiLMEN/status/1275463265502613505 @vapid hawk

[eternal ravine]

Hopefully it works that long

[woeful beacon]

now to be fair maybe they fixed it I dont know

I just remember being so disappointed I just uninstalled it

[vapid hawk]

get multiple dreamcasts while they're still fairly cheap

[woeful beacon]

I never took any footage

[vapid hawk]

was it just the switch version or all of them?

[eternal ravine]

I still have never owned the N64, which looks unlikely to change at this point

[vapid hawk]

a lot of switch games are technically deficient to be fair

[eternal ravine]

Like I have a friggin' SEGA SC-3000, but no N64

[velvet nexus]

technically deficient?

[eternal ravine]

They have definitely worked that Switch hardware pretty furiously

[velvet nexus]

I'm in this weird spot where I always felt the switch was fantastic

[vapid hawk]

low framerates, resolutions etc

[eternal ravine]

I dunno, I don't dislike it

But I have seen the struggle

[velvet nexus]

but, portable

[little socket]

switch lets my hands cramp within 20minutes

[velvet nexus]

love me some low portable framerate

[vapid hawk]

yeah i don't hate it but like, its a 10 year old tegra it can't do miracles

[velvet nexus]

it is crampy

[eternal ravine]

My last Nintendo portable was the n3DS

That slays my hands

But it's such a fun device

Peak Nintendo madness

[velvet nexus]

agreed

love my n3ds

[magic girder]

I love the switch, but only tend to play first party games, don’t really mind at all that it’s low powered as long as devs work within the constraints. Really hope the successor has backwards compatibility

[velvet nexus]

the steam deck has been a big game changer for me

[velvet nexus]

I feel like it will

[magic girder]

Nintendo be Nintendo though. They like their gimmicks

[velvet nexus]

they kind of need the backwards to sell it out of the gate

much like all of their intro systems

the wii had gamecube compat

wii u wii

[eternal ravine]

I have the smaller white n3DS

[magic girder]

I don’t underestimate their ability to fuck things up

[velvet nexus]

also true

its about time for that fuck up

much like the wiiu

[eternal ravine]

Tick-Tock
Time for some bizarre VB 2 or something

Nintendo Brain Squid

[magic girder]

As annoying as it can be when they do mess it up, at least they try to innovate. Modern games consoles looking more and more similar as time goes on

And their software output is really unmatched in terms of consistent quality imo

[eternal ravine]

Yeah, as far back as Game n Watch and the Famicom
So many mad ideas

Famicom is dear to me

This is my Twin Fami set

[zinc dawn]

I love smoking but got 4 kids now so I decided to quit.

[eternal ravine]

That's for the best

[zinc dawn]

Smoking and playing counterstrike 1.6 late nights. Ahh the single life.

[woeful beacon]

not for old ports, they're usually fine

of course if you're talking like doom eternal, sure

for a shit n64 port upscaled with zero other changes - yeah no the switch will usually = ps4 in those cases 99% of the time

[solemn marlin]

It's a shame it's so lethal, it really is a mood enhancer, the entire thing, the smoke, the sizzle. Lol I want a smoke now

[velvet nexus]

y'all are killing me with this

[solemn marlin]

Something about it really goes well with arcade mood as well, dimly lit, old carpet, wooden panels, a quick drag before an intense action sequence. Screw barcades, we want ciggies

[velvet nexus]

I've been using nicotine replacement

and I agree

an arcade smokers lounge would be legit

[solemn marlin]

Same, it works but it lacks that je ne sais quoi

[elfin depot]

This is my fav from the collection, perfect size, has the "new" features

[solemn marlin]

I do zyn pouches

[velvet nexus]

I was doing zyn

but it doesn't do a great job for weening

the hit is too fast

doing the gum now

I want to get away from nicotine all together

[solemn marlin]

I'll never stop, I want that nico kick, the weird thing is that I feel I can take a cig and it'll be worth it, going back smoking after being completely off nicotine is not fun

[velvet nexus]

I did

I LOVE camel ciggs

[solemn marlin]

Nicotine 64

[velvet nexus]

Jaha, do you mind if I message you? I'm kind of chasing a dragon on something and wonder if you might have some ideas for me

[solemn marlin]

The age where I'll stop, I like white prince, swedish brand, not sure how it's considered tbh

Sure go for it

[cerulean elk]

Snus. General white or Onyx. Ooh how I love them

But I quit during the pandemic. So it’s a lost love

Discovered it in Sweden. Never looked back. Amazing stuff

[eternal ravine]

Death by snu-snu

[chilly ember]

Never got into chewing tobacco, spitting in a bottle just never appealed to me butI can enjoy a cigarette. Too expensive nowadays though

[mild ether]

It's good for you. Never have to worry about worms or long relationships.

[eternal ravine]

I haven't had any THC in 3 days and I'm questioning my decision

[chilly ember]

I haven't had any THC today lol

[zinc dawn]

I second this. My mate got really bad teeth though because of it. He had some awful nashers on him

[velvet nexus]

I do enjoy snus

[cerulean elk]

Me too. Maybe I’ll get a can for Christmas and live a little

[mild ether]

Göteborgs Rapé?

[velvet nexus]

This community has been so surreal to me... I feel like I'm talking to celebrities sometimes

[mild ether]

I used to order that stuff only many years ago.

[eternal ravine]

There are some retro gaming rock stars here
Like the actual devs, I mean

[velvet nexus]

Yeah, exactly

[vapid hawk]

i thought you meant basketsnake

[solemn marlin]

Robby worked on geist which I thought was pretty damn cool

[cerulean elk]

Nah General or nothing. I’m a general man

[weary palm]

The intro music to Hi Pai Paradise 2 is pretty obnoxious. Guess I'm not really a weeb.

[chilly ember]

Yay

[vapid hawk]

d0pefish invented monkey island i'm pretty sure

[eternal ravine]

I mean, the work being done with FPGA-based preservation will last forever
Pretty cool

[velvet nexus]

Que?

[cerulean elk]

Til global warming gets us 😂

[eternal ravine]

Bring it on, I'm freezing my arse off here

[vapid hawk]

(he's the creator of mt32pi which is used almost exclusively to listen to the monkey island intro theme)