Nintendo 64

[weary beacon]

If anyone was curious about Legacy of Darkness having a weird aggressive camera orbit, that was the core mapping analog and D pad functions to the same input. The D pad controls the camera in Legacy, but not CV64

[wanton sun]

was it the core or the user mapping up/down/left/right to stick? 😉

[weary palm]

It seems to be close to full speed

[cerulean elk]

I’ll have to do it next vid. Thanks!

[weary palm]

I'm addicted to your vids

[cerulean elk]

Haha thanks. I’m “off the clock” today still. Coffee then Christmas tree then drinks and dinner with friends. Szechuan Chinese baby!

I have a vid at 4 though. Tucked something extra away for the post thanksgiving crowd

[weary palm]

szechuan? is it spicy?

[cerulean elk]

Yes. Mouth numbing spicy. One of my favs

Chicago is filled with authentic Chinese food

[patent dragon]

and extremely bad drivers

[orchid nimbus]

Sambal Oelek only

[weary palm]

I love spicy food. Thai is my favorite. Pad Kaprow

[orchid nimbus]

that's the stuff without garlic and schrimp

[weary palm]

Sambal Oelek ❤️ I use up one of those jars every other month

[cerulean elk]

This is very true

Szechuan peppers are def diff than sambal though. Tons of diff varieties. Diff flavor

[weary palm]

Or an indian vindaloo

yum

[cerulean elk]

Then thanksgiving two tomorrow. Got a whole other Turkey waiting to go

[orchid nimbus]

but hey YT people don't season their food 😄

Thai restaurant refused to sell me their curry extra hot

[weary palm]

just bought some "spicy takis". "Xtra hot". Meh. not very hot.

[orchid nimbus]

I like hot stuff

yeah.... I have the same 'problem' 😄

[weary palm]

Disappointed

[orchid nimbus]

'extra hot' suace.... wtf is this vinegar?

[weary palm]

yeah, right?

[patent dragon]

if you're in the states, the doritos dynamité are a great alternative to taki fuego's

[weary palm]

I've never been there

[weary beacon]

That'd be the one...yep, guess I've been doing that wrong the whole time. Thank you!

[orchid nimbus]

I ate a ball of wasabi (1.5cm 3) the other day... since my sinuses where stuff up and I didn't have taste 😄 they guy at that place looked at me and was seriously waiting for me to freak out.

[weary palm]

now I'm hungry

wasabi makes my nose hurt xD

[patent dragon]

im suffering today from my livestream yesterday. donations & bits etc, i spin a wheel of 12 hot sauces including Da Bomb and some crazy sauces. today im regretting things

[weary palm]

Never had the real deal, though

[orchid nimbus]

what goes in must come out

[weary palm]

Da bomb is too hot for me. It's just pure pain.

Not very tasty either

[patent dragon]

you are correct.

one is Professor Phardtpounders Colon Cleaner - Elixir of Capsicin Extremus.

sounds terrible, its actually quite tasty.

[weary palm]

not a very selling name

[patent dragon]

no. no it is not

[weary palm]

I don't want to think about the aftermatch when I eat something extremely spicy

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/mukbang-food-mukbang-gifs-asmr-mukhbang-korean-food-gif-22206624

it'll all come out

[orchid nimbus]

disgusting

how she shoves it all in.....

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-ew-gross-david-rose-disgusted-gif-18489037

[patent dragon]

https://tenor.com/bDylF.gif

[stiff condor]

Anyway... Good morning everyone

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-change-the-subject-orlando-bloom-rycroft-philostrate-carnival-row-dont-change-the-topic-gif-16571081

[worn delta]

Come on chaps, food chat in the food channel please. Cool it on the gifs

[stiff condor]

The new RAM I ordered is broken so I'm using an old stick. No Portal 64 for me. 😦

[daring meteor]

We could use that for Golf

[worn delta]

Does Portal 64 need more than 32mb ram? I thought everything would run on the core with the smallest stick

[stiff condor]

Apparently. Smash Remix doesn't boot either

[worn delta]

Ah, interesting. How large are the rom files?

[worn delta]

That image doesn't seem relevant to the N64... Let's keep things on topic please

[stiff condor]

I don't know what the size of the ROM files are off the top of my head, but I know they are fairly large comparative to other games

That's what I did but if was faulty so it's going back so I can get a replacement

[worn delta]

I may be misremembering but I thought everything retail was meant to work with 32MB stick. Is that correct? So if that is the case is interesting if there are homebrew that need 64/128MB

[stiff condor]

I've been mostly experimenting with ROM hacks

[worn delta]

If you don't have an analogue iO board and wind up with a spare 32MB then pop that in slot B and you have a dual ram set up 🙂

[weary palm]

smash remix is 65 536 000 bytes

[worn delta]

Is that larger than the biggest retail?

[weary palm]

No, biggest retail is 67 108 864 bytes

[stiff condor]

Maybe I can check it again but I thought it didn't boot

[worn delta]

Hmm, as are we sure Smash Remix doesn't run on 32MB but the biggest retail does, and Remix works on 128MB?

This seems suspicious

[stiff condor]

Give me a second

[weary palm]

Trying it rn

keep loading, loading, loading whaaat

[stiff condor]

So slow

Black screen?

[weary palm]

nope, it works for me

[stiff condor]

Interesting

[worn delta]

On 32MB or 128MB?

[weary palm]

128

[stiff condor]

Well yes it will boot with 128

I have 32MB

[weary palm]

You can't even load OoT on 32, can you?

[worn delta]

This is what I am wondering, do all retail actually work with 32MB?

[weary palm]

They shouldn't 😐

The SRAM is used for other stuff than cartridge storage

[stiff condor]

I don't have oot on my MiSTer but I have Majora's Mask Redux and it works

[worn delta]

What ROM pack are you using?

Advice is to use HTGDB Everdrive pack or no intro

[weary palm]

Perhaps it works for a bit but as soon as it tries to load from unloaded ROM it'll crash

[stiff condor]

My archive is no intro

[weary palm]

wait, I'll try to find what Robert wrote about this

[desert crow]

sdram is used for the rom iirc and all those bytes have to go somewhere

[worn delta]

Be good to get any ram requirements in the core readme

[weary palm]

#1096015979055697940 message

[orchid nimbus]

what are the memory requirements - I don't even have them in my FAQ

[hearty python]

Gamerom plus 8MB iirc…

[weary palm]

I would say
32MB if you want to play anything up to ~24MB,
64MB if you want to play anything up to ~56MB and
128MB for the rest. 🙂

[hearty python]

😁

[weary palm]

any nice black friday bargains?

[worn delta]

Wrong channel for black Friday chat, but thanks for the RAM info

[weary palm]

I meant N64 accessories of course.

[oblique remnant]

20% on the everdrive 😀

[hearty python]

Too late 😂

[cold pollen]

none of the stuff I wanted is on sale 😭

cyber monday, maybe

[cerulean elk]

I made my Black Friday purchase so I’m done

[orchid nimbus]

I bought 2x256GB SD cards for $9.99 a piece

[cerulean elk]

I upgraded my capture card to the HD60X MK.2 so I can do some 4K60 captures in the future

Want to do some MiSTer 4K scaled content in the new year

[cold pollen]

ALERT ALERT

[plush summit]

mr money bags here, my $30 4K30 stick does fine but crashes a lot Im winning out here

[compact depot]

I had to buy a very expensive chair because of my lumbar pain 😔

[cold pollen]

KITSCH BENT HAS GREY JOYSTICKS

IN STOCK

[cerulean elk]

Tax write off

[cold pollen]

okay everybody what am I buying, the gear and bowl too?

[cerulean elk]

Well obv I’ll use it but all this production stuff is a business expense

[stiff condor]

I can't afford anymore after buying the iron clad plus.

[cerulean elk]

If I add a Tink4K or PixelFX scaler to the workflow it’s all just part of my business. Since I’m a filmmaker all the YT stuff is just adjacent to my normal tax situ

[plush summit]

actually damn gotta place an order

[orchid nimbus]

oh let's do the digital code!!

what a deal!!

[cold pollen]

is it lol

[plush summit]

Light Grey is the OEM ish color?

[cold pollen]

I hope lol

it's gotta be

[plush summit]

I always see it sold out, so I imagine lol

[cold pollen]

Right 🙂

[cold pollen]

Enjoy

they're probably sold out after you order lol

[plush summit]

It went through

So we'll see if KB updates me with OOS lol

[knotty zealot]

what's so special about those replacements

[hollow rune]

I can show some techniques next week on stream

[wanton sun]

close. 16mbyte are reserved now, so 16mbyte max for 32mbyte ram module, 48 for 64mbyte module and 64mbyte for 128mbyte module. Everything above 64mbyte is completly untested and might not work due to missing address lines

as most games are either 16/32/64, the sizes between don't really matter

for homebrew maybe

[plush summit]

they exist

[knotty zealot]

can't you just clean the old ones and put some grease on'em

[elfin depot]

And the gearsets, those have been out for a while.

[knotty zealot]

could you put these parts in the saffun or nso controllers? lul

would it even do anything

[stone pilot]

I think they use different-shaped guts - but also I doubt anyone's saffun or NSO is worn enough to need it

[cold pollen]

They exist

[knotty zealot]

you can't get plastic garbage of this quality elsewhere?

[elfin depot]

These are known to be the best rebuild parts out there.

[knotty zealot]

what about the steelsticks?

oh those aren't for sale

[elfin depot]

Kitsch bent are closest to OEM because they are plastic, and steelsticks are NLA

[plush summit]

yeah, but the parts are pretty worn down, so you're just cleaning stick/bowl shavings

[elfin depot]

Shipping was as much as the parts for me

[plush summit]

I mean, if you're willing to pay like $100 a stick sure

[plush summit]

same 😄

[knotty zealot]

looked at site. looked at all the parts. thought paypal was required. logged into paypal and added my credit card because i'm not dumb enough to keep it linked. added parts. looked at price. looked at shipping. decided i didn't need all the parts. checked out. shipping same. figured i might as well add the shit back in. noticed i didn't need paypal but could just use my credit card info. looked at total price. decided to nope the fuck out. logged back into paypal and removed the card again.

🍷

this needs to be said and i don't know if it's just me... but god DANG does their website absolutely suck

maybe it's all my adblockers but i was prevented from scrolling through some info and just browsing and the big pictures are horrible

and the categories are all mixed up

[fair stump]

🎉

[nimble needle]

New build alert. Looks a whopper!

[languid dune]

A Black Friday deal! New build!

[fair stump]

Turok 2 up and running

[quaint pewter]

I might have a chance to finally try TLB now. my son is home schooling at the moment as his school is closed til christmas for "structural danger"

[wanton sun]

All the new TLB games are full TLB games, so they might be slow until virtual memory addressed data read/write can use the datacache

[weary palm]

We have a test build!

Thanks Robert ❤️

[worn delta]

Oh, a Friday treat! Is Goldeneye working any better?

[weary palm]

Let's see!

[magic girder]

🤯🤯🤯

[toxic pumice]

Whaaaaaaat

[shrewd matrix]

🙌

[toxic pumice]

I'm not at home for another 3 hours

Goddamn

[stuck summit]

damn amazing build just dropped

[toxic pumice]

If someone would be so gracious as to run down Turok Rage Wars and Gauntlet Legends, that would be very appreciated.

[thorn flax]

I'm firing up some games with tlb as we speak.

I had a freeze in Paper Mario's opening but not sure if that's a known issue

it is however repeatable

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/n65-goldeneye64-guard-goldeneye-gif-19230027

[thorn flax]

just reseting for a 3rd time to be sure

[orchid nimbus]

All-Star Baseball 2001 (USA).z64
Armorines - Project S.W.A.R.M. (USA).z64
Banjo-Tooie (USA).z64
BattleTanx - Global Assault (USA).z64
BattleTanx (USA).z64
Conker's Bad Fur Day (USA).z64
FIFA Soccer 64 (USA) (En,Fr,De).z64
Gauntlet Legends (USA).z64
GoldenEye 007 (USA).z64
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine (USA).z64
Jeremy McGrath Supercross 2000 (USA).z64
Mario Tennis (USA).z64
NBA Jam 2000 (USA).z64
NFL QB Club 2001 (USA).z64
NFL Quarterback Club 2000 (USA).z64
NFL Quarterback Club 99 (USA).z64
Perfect Dark (USA) (Rev 1).z64
Re-Volt (USA).z64
Shadow Man (USA).z64
South Park - Chef's Luv Shack (USA).z64
South Park (USA).z64
Star Wars Episode I - Battle for Naboo (USA).z64
Turok - Rage Wars (USA) (Rev 1).z64
Turok 2 - Seeds of Evil (USA) (Rev 1).z64
Turok 3 - Shadow of Oblivion (USA).z64```

[crisp monolith]

Doesn’t appear to be loading quickly

[orchid nimbus]

here is a list of TLB games that don't boot (with previous core)

[wanton sun]

Goldeneye works until main menu

then crashes

[thorn flax]

3rd confirmed instance

[orchid nimbus]

was already working

check the list above for games that don't work

[toxic pumice]

That's a crash tho

[orchid nimbus]

oh

lol

[worn delta]

There any JP exclusives that are TLB?

[orchid nimbus]

oops\

[eternal island]

the crash was known since last build

[toxic pumice]

All good 🙂 many steps forward, one slight regression by the look of things.

[eternal island]

apparently plays well in game

[cunning mantle]

Gauntlet Legends works, but with 3 fps

[toxic pumice]

Ahh

[toxic pumice]

Monkey paw moment. Thank you for testing.

[crisp monolith]

Did shadow man boot before? It does now.

[toxic pumice]

Still incredible to see the progress!

[magic girder]

The first of the baseball games seems to play but seems slow

[chrome quest]

None that don't already work I think. Like a Goemon boardgame one

[cunning mantle]

Revolt works, with app 11-14 fps ingame.

[viscid gate]

The previous release of Portal64 might work for you? The ROM size increased a lot with the addition of the localisation in the last release

[crisp monolith]

Unpatched Perfect Dark seems to be working

[magic girder]

So does the second one, feels a bit faster than the first as well.

[cunning mantle]

Shadow Man works too, a bit delayed but ingame seems playable.

[odd vector]

Woah, big update

[magic girder]

Armorines also seems to work. Getting E800 on that, frame rate seems a little low, but I never played it on original hardware so it might actually be the same

[chrome quest]

Same thoughts here. Maintained 50, but did feel hitchy. Not familiar though, could be the same on original hardware

[brisk drum]

OMG!

[magic girder]

Banjo Tooie seems to be no boot with E080

[solemn maple]

Does Re-volt work?

[cunning mantle]

Yep

[brisk drum]

Feeels like when my parents bought me a 64 on Black Friday

[languid dune]

Goldeneye boots, but has crashing issues for me. Perfect Dark seems to be running....perfect.

[brisk drum]

That’s cool .. I’m going balls deep into castlevania 64 idc

[thorn flax]

in-game freeze

[languid dune]

Shadowman also seems pretty good, but slow loading.

[weary palm]

Does GE multiplayer defaults to Rockets? Or is that a bug?

[cunning mantle]

Turok 2 and 3 are playable too

[eternal island]

goldeneye seems to hang at the start

[worn delta]

Wow, if PD and Turok 2 and 3 are playable now that is huge

[eternal island]

or is that just me

[crisp monolith]

Goldeneye I can get through to loading Dam and then I get a black screen with music playing

[orchid nimbus]

@cunning mantle Turok - Rage Wars (USA) (Rev 1).z64

what about that one?

[rich warren]

"Thank you Turok Robert!"

[cunning mantle]

Have to check Rage Wars. Getting the Rom

[languid dune]

I get the mature audiences warning in Conker, but that's it! I'm just not man enough.

[worn delta]

Out of curiousity has anyone tried loading a multiplayer on Goldeneye and see if it also hangs before play?

[thorn flax]

I didn't make it past some logo screens

[magic girder]

Conker’s is no boot for me

[vapid hawk]

another amazing milestone

[wanton sun]

conker crashes random. sometimes you can even make to the new game selection

[orchid nimbus]

Banjo-Tooie (USA).z64 no boot

[eternal island]

ah.. goldeneye booted

[wanton sun]

Tooie didn't work before unless the everdrive patched?

[thorn flax]

anti-piracy measures

[eternal island]

good ol' core restart

[quick arch]

yes still needs cracked rom

[vapid hawk]

1(00%) game(s) working by xmas

[weary palm]

I will try GoldenEye X 5e now...

[eternal island]

it does seem to black out after the logos though

[languid dune]

Still no Mario Tennis.

[magic girder]

No boot for both battletanx games

[crisp monolith]

Framerate in the Turok 2 intro tanks at points. Can’t remember what it was like originally.

[cunning mantle]

Rage Wars works too.

[fair stump]

Someone filtered the sheet?

[languid dune]

Sounds like Turok 2 alright. 😅

[quick arch]

Mario Tennis still e0000040 not booting

[orchid nimbus]

yup

[rich warren]

Turok 2 has a Hi-Res expansion pack mode, which can be slow

[magic girder]

Ha, you’re too fast for me

[wanton sun]

yes, Mario Tennis has some datacache issues

[orchid nimbus]

just did that one too

[magic girder]

No fifa either @orchid nimbus

[vapid hawk]

Turok2 can drop to <10fps easy especially in highres mode

[quick arch]

Is it normal Crontroller Pack is set on load of a rom required cpak ?

[orchid nimbus]

thanks updated the list

[fair stump]

No Indiana jones

[fair stump]

Did you filter the sheet?

[tropic cove]

The other day the same thing happened to me in the same part, I restarted the game, tried again and it passed.

[magic girder]

NBA Jam 2000 seems to work

[quick arch]

SOuth Park works

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun congrats on getting re-volt to work 😄

[chrome quest]

Multiplayer also black screen, music playing

[orchid nimbus]

I know how much you love that game on the n64

[thorn flax]

interesting, the attract mode crash I got was repeatable tho

[fair stump]

No Battle for Naboo for me

[orchid nimbus]

updated

Southpark boots 😄

[desert crow]

sounds like a bunch of new games, must be on the right track. it's happening

[magic girder]

NFL QB Club 2001 works although seems a little laggy, but might be accurate

[orchid nimbus]

it boots 😄

[viscid gate]

I got to 1 frame of cutscene one time - seems quite random

[magic girder]

As does 2000, again feels a bit slow. 99 also works (might be a little smoother than 2000 or 2001, but I might just be adjusting)

[cerulean elk]

Ok what’s working kids? No vid today. I’m still on “vacation” but I want to line up for tomorrow

[fair stump]

Perfect dark, revolt, qb club 2001, goldeneye, both south parks, turok 2

[cerulean elk]

perfect dark, Turok 2 and 3, South Park, revolt

[mortal panther]

Turok - Rage Wars boots too.

Indiana Jones, Mario Tennis, Star Wars - Battle for Naboo... no joy.

[chrome quest]

Few other boots but not playable. Gauntlet super slow, Goldeneye, etc
Amazing progress though! Will have to retest some that worked slow last update

[odd vector]

Conker Boots, but far from playing

[mortal panther]

Perfect Dark doesn't need to be patched now, it seems... but the patch is probably still preferable.

[mossy needle]

Doesn't the patch still hang at some point though

[mortal panther]

Oh, I don't remember.

[oblique crow]

AHHHHHHHHHHH

Just played through the first two levels of perfect dark

[mossy needle]

One of the missions is incompletable or something

[oblique crow]

I'm so happy. Goldeneye SOONNNNNNNNN

[magic girder]

All-Star Baseball 2001 (USA).z64 (works)
Armorines - Project S.W.A.R.M. (USA).z64 (works)
Banjo-Tooie (USA).z64 (no boot)
BattleTanx - Global Assault (USA).z64 (no boot)
BattleTanx (USA).z64 (no boot)
Conker's Bad Fur Day (USA).z64 (no boot)
FIFA Soccer 64 (USA) (En,Fr,De).z64 (no boot)
GoldenEye 007 (USA).z64 (no boot for me)
NBA Jam 2000 (USA).z64 (works)
NFL QB Club 2001 (USA).z64 (works)
NFL Quarterback Club 2000 (USA).z64 (works)
NFL Quarterback Club 99 (USA).z64 (works)

What I’ve tested so far

[orchid nimbus]

playable?

[odd vector]

Conker does boot, I have seen the N64 Logo and sound playing

[mortal panther]

Not terribly great performance, but I got in-game with Turok - Rage Wars.
Doesn't help that I can't play it worth a crap either. 😉

[odd vector]

Btw. The sound skipping in diddy kong racing (pal) isn‘t happening anymore. Fixed!

[magic girder]

Robert said random crashes. I couldn’t get it to boot. I guess YMMV

[cerulean elk]

Fun stuff. I’ll try to get something together for tomorrow or Sunday

[visual mortar]

Goldeneye pal not booting

[oblique crow]

Bamjo tooie with everdrive patch is working for me

[orchid nimbus]

Gauntlet Legends (USA).z64 - boots and is slow

let see if it's playable

[magic girder]

Ahh, that was my next one 😄

[orchid nimbus]

playable but slow

[eternal island]

how are you guys getting goldeneye to play lol

[oblique crow]

thats goldeneye X

[eternal island]

oh

[oblique crow]

not goldeneye, perfect dark romhack

[magic girder]

Jeremy McGrath seems to be playable, again potentially a bit slow - but might be the same in real hardware

[daring meteor]

Banjo Tooie is unrelated to TLB by the way

And so is Polaris SnoCross

[orchid nimbus]

and Jet Force Gemini (USA).z64

[magic girder]

But it seems like a fun game!

[orchid nimbus]

seems timing

[oblique crow]

Thats what i figured

[orchid nimbus]

just 10 fps 🙂

[oblique crow]

was checking the excel list

[magic girder]

I think we’ve tested everything that wasn’t working before now, right?

[odd vector]

Turok 2 (Germany) runs

[oblique crow]

bewareoblivionisathand

[weary palm]

"GoldenEye"

[orchid nimbus]

@cerulean elk

[odd vector]

More like SilverEye

[daring meteor]

@orchid nimbus I assume you tested NBA Jam - It doesn't boot Slowly anymore, right?

[weary palm]

Actually a better MP experience than the real deal, they say

[orchid nimbus]

@daring meteor I don't know how fast it did ... I loaded the game and then updated the sheet for the previous test

[magic girder]

Seemed fine to me, not slow at all

[daring meteor]

Alright

[orchid nimbus]

most of them where Akklaim/Acclaim games

[daring meteor]

How slow is perfect Dark right now?

[oblique crow]

it felt about right (or what i remember)

[orchid nimbus]

31 Days Till Christmas

😄

[weary palm]

perfect speed

30

[hexed knot]

Conker require something specific to boot? Not getting anything from it.

[vapid moat]

Just woke from napping

Big build here, but most of TLB-game's super-slow still?

[crisp monolith]

Unpatched PD felt like normal speed. Hard to go back to after the patched one which runs closer to 60 sometimes!

[daring meteor]

No

[cerulean elk]

Perfect thx!

[orchid nimbus]

'problem' games

[cunning mantle]

Tried the unpatched Europe version of Perfect Dark. FPS is around 10-25 fps. But seems playable enough. Maybe it's the normal speed.

[daring meteor]

And Wave Race Shindou edition

Banjo-Tooie (USA).z64 - Use Patch
BattleTanx - Global Assault (USA).z64 - Use PAL version
BattleTanx (USA).z64
FIFA Soccer 64 (USA) (En,Fr,De).z64 - Disable datacache when booting
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine (USA).z64
GoldenEye 007 (USA).z64
Mario Tennis (USA).z64 - Disable datacache when booting
Star Wars Episode I - Battle for Naboo (USA).z64
Conker's Bad Fur Day (USA).z64
Jet Force Gemini (USA).z64
Polaris SnoCross (USA).z64
Nintama Rantarou 64 Game Gallery (Japan).z64
Wave Race 64 - Kawasaki Jet Ski (Japan) (Rev 2) (Shindou Edition).z64 - Change save type while booting

That's the whole list

[vapid moat]

Anyway, oh BOYYY time to try Turok 2~

[orchid nimbus]

@daring meteor you can update those

those were either set to playable or completable

[daring meteor]

?

[orchid nimbus]

just update the sheet

I only test roms set to a certain state

[worn delta]

Mario Tennis works if you turn off a setting on the OSD

[daring meteor]

And Fifa 64 too

[orchid nimbus]

@daring meteor I am need to get back to work here

please update the sheet

[oblique crow]

did turok 2 always run this butt

[daring meteor]

Ah the list of games I did were nonworking games

And you accidentally set Goldeneye to playable

[daring meteor]

Its a bit slower

[magic girder]

Looks like we’re at 13 which aren’t playable just yet, or not reliably so

[weary palm]

Perfect Dark is a bit slower than it supposed to be, I think.

[daring meteor]

Some have workaround

[magic girder]

Sure, but it’s a good measure of how far Robert’s taken the core

[daring meteor]

Out of 13 problematic games, 5 have workarounds

[weary palm]

13 fps isn't ok

[modest helm]

Anyone getting an error message on the latest core for Duck Dodgers? I get a black screen with error message "65707Z6d"

[weary palm]

perhaps pd's cutscenes always was that choppy, lol

my memory is rose-tinted.

[solemn maple]

Pretty sure digital foundry covered the performance of the n64 version of perfect dark

[thorn flax]

shame that original hardware longplays aren't easily found on yt

[weary palm]

Corona Conker

(Force WB on)

[solemn maple]

https://youtu.be/Cx3_beBwsZ0?si=hQZlPX0ZtM-eJuhp

[languid dune]

Shadowman is also working!

[solemn maple]

Seems like 8-16 fps was common for PD

[vapid moat]

Already more responsible than most of the Karens back in the day

[languid dune]

Very true!

[weary palm]

Conker is a gentleman

[cerulean elk]

I saw. Gonna try to do a vid Sat or Sunday. Today I am doing tree / dinner and drinks with friends. I meant it when I said vacation thurs and Fri 🙂 but people wait for the new from pixel and I 🙂 nobody here needs us to tell them what’s good

[weary palm]

wonder if his mouth is using yuv or something

[mild ether]

All Aleck 64 games are working and Vivid Dolls is completable.

[daring meteor]

So we really at 13(8) games remaining

Great success

[weary palm]

That's pretty crazy

[daring meteor]

I thought this version would fix a lot haha, glad to see I was correct

[eternal island]

sounds like a lot of games are working as a result

[toxic pumice]

Let's GOOOOOOO

[eternal island]

paper mario working is big for me

[oblique crow]

I can't believe how far 2 builds took us

[mild ether]

Dinosaur Planet is still not working.

[oblique crow]

Robert you're a champion

[eternal island]

the final bosses will be conker bfd and jetforce

[toxic pumice]

One TLB game by Christmas huh

Merry Christmas lads and ladies

[eternal island]

one tlb game not working by christmas*

[oblique crow]

One TLB game by Christmas huh

FTFY

[daring meteor]

One game not working by Christmas (jfg)

[oblique crow]

Robert's an overachiever or an underpromiser

[magic girder]

He’s obviously a man who has had to deal with project managers in his professional life

[eternal island]

what do you think will be the true final boss of the n64 core

[oblique crow]

hahahaha

[eternal island]

conker or jfg

[oblique crow]

Final boss? Honestly? JFG

JFG is such a mess code wise

[eternal island]

only time will truly tell

[oblique crow]

its amazing it runs at all really

[daring meteor]

Jfg will be the last supported game

Or wave race shindou

[mild ether]

Is Dinosaur Planet prototype in the database?

[daring meteor]

Wave race shindou is a game specific patch that has a workaround

[magic girder]

I’m calling fifa 64 😂

[eternal island]

jfg is a game i hated because anything space themed makes me sleepy not to say its a bad game. i hated it because my buddies would always play it when i went over, and i wanted to play anything else

ANYTHING

[quaint pewter]

Tree fiddy games by Christmas

[eternal island]

conkers bfd though, love that game. both the n64 and xbox versions

recently the xbox one started running perfect on the xbox emu

[weary palm]

I have a cbfd cartridge. Unfortunately it's plagued by the PAL.

Can someone confirm that Jeopardy doesn't work anymore? (controller doesn't respond)

[wanton sun]

you have one unplugged?

[river shale]

If you do fast ram and swap interlaced in the debug menu it runs better

[wanton sun]

jeopardy doesn't work with 4 pads also on hw

[weary palm]

oh, didn't knew that

[daring meteor]

Jeopardy update still the best update

[vapid moat]

[wanton sun]

are you sure you are on the newest core? because it doesn't work here anymore. If you are on the newest core, please post or message me your OSD options in the core

i always try to fix regressions immidiatly, especially in cases where a regression makes no sense. The update should not influence any non-TLB game, but it does for me

[modest helm]

Is there a chance we can get an option to swap the C-buttons and the analog stick? Turok Rage Wars and Turok 2 are hard to control with movement being mapped to the C-buttons

It's counter-intuitive to any modern FPS

[daring meteor]

Use stick swap

[stuck summit]

dual analog is counter intuitive to my boomer shooter brain

[safe robin]

When I tried stick swap it was great but on the wrong analog sticks 😅

Like perfect for lefthanded people but not for me

[modest helm]

It just maps everything to the right stick if I do that. Is this because I mapped the C-buttons to the right analog stick?

[wanton sun]

turok 2 can be configured in options

[daring meteor]

Yes

[wanton sun]

default is just like the Portal homebrew

[vapid moat]

@wanton sun

[safe robin]

I had the problem in Daikatana

[vapid moat]

Back in MY DAY, this is how we played FPSs!

Kidding, options are always good

[modest helm]

Even back in the day I could never get into the Turok games bc the controls were the opposite of GoldenEye lol

[zenith orchid]

oh wow.. only 9 "problem games" left. I bet they'll all be playable by Christmas 👍

[modest helm]

SubDrag made mods to fix this on a ton of FPS games so this isn't a problem. Can't find a way to get Turok 2 and Rage Wars to play right though

[ornate obsidian]

I will say its not exactly easy since i havent played this game since 2000, but tbh I dont think the controls are that bad

[magic girder]

Did any N64 games use both the D pad and analog at the same time?

[vapid hawk]

does turok2 not have a left-handed mode like turok1?

it puts move on the dpad and look on the stick its pretty ideal

[ornate obsidian]

I do wonder though how exactly much the FPS is compared to real hardware atm, cause it sure feels like ass hahaha

[magic girder]

I guess that answers my question 😄

[sacred valley]

I could have sworn it did. Also, Turok 2 is probably the worst framerate game I've ever played on an actual N64 (perfect dark with a ton of simulants and explosions a close second)

[vapid hawk]

i can't even with turok2, the framerate is way too low

[knotty zealot]

not enough tlb

[woven olive]

part of me wants to spend the money on a tink 4k to start a channel that's 100% unmodified hardware longplays of every game. or at least start with ~10 minute clips of everything. would take forever.

[cerulean elk]

That’s gonna cost you on the hard drive size

[daring meteor]

13

Not 9

[cerulean elk]

But I just ordered a new capture card today @woven olive

[woven olive]

yeah... i know. i've thought about it. but at least if you treat it like an archive you can upload that stuff to internet archive as well as youtube as you go along.

[woven olive]

what did you get? i just got a livegamer 2.1 and it has some... quirks

[vapid moat]

Yep, in "Control Side" in options

[modest helm]

Btw, anyone tried out Armorines? It works but is slow as molasses

[vapid hawk]

Turok2 is one i'd love to see Robert try and salvage with some crazy overclock/turbo modes

[cerulean elk]

Elgato 4K60 Pro MK.2

So a 4K60 HDR compliant card

[woven olive]

That's a solid capture card.

[zinc dawn]

Holy Moses Goldeneye is Working?

[magic girder]

@cerulean elk I think you mentioned doing comparisons to real hardware at some point - were you planning on waiting until the core is finished to do those? I suspect some games could almost be marked as “perfect” already.

[woven olive]

I don't have a desktop with free slots so I am USB limited.

[cerulean elk]

Finished

[magic girder]

Just realised that I misread 😅 - that’s fair enough. I can’t wait until we’re there though!

[cerulean elk]

They are my fav to make

[woven olive]

Avermedia doesn't have any 4:3 modes but all the Elgato ones do if you manually type in the 4:3 res into OBS. So Avermedia you always have to run the resize filter on it.

[cerulean elk]

But I mean spoiler alert…it’s gonna be “as good as if not better than OG”

[latent galleon]

i am not exactly on the edge of my seat

[desert crow]

in the can? You and the other guys have been really good about getting the news out and keeping everyone up to date 👍

[weary palm]

i'm scared of submitting a pr

[vapid hawk]

lol why whats in it?

[weary palm]

save file splitting

[vapid hawk]

ooh

whats the worst that could happen?

[cerulean elk]

Oh no lol. I was responding to when I’d do the core comparison

[wanton sun]

save files destroyed 😅

[weary palm]

people losing progress 🙂

[cerulean elk]

N64 video tomorrow. I’m off today

[wanton sun]

i should really test it, but i don't got much time. Hopefully the community can help

[vapid hawk]

i think everyone using the core right now is smart enough to be backing up their saves

[magic girder]

The general approach of striving for accuracy of the mister cores is what I love about this project so much. With software emulation, especially on convenient/low powered stuff like the Pi, I always have concerns in the back of my mind that slowdown is caused by my use of underpowered hardware (I don’t have a killer machine connected to my TV). Having confidence that any slowdown is because it’s accurate gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. 😅

[vapid hawk]

or just not caring about their saves (my strategy)

[quick arch]

the NES emulator seems to work (don't know if anyone tested it lately)

[vapid hawk]

yeah post a build in here i'm sure people can help test it out for you

[wanton sun]

he did last night

[marble cargo]

Jet Force Gemini still crashes...

[wanton sun]

should we put it in test-builds so it's more visible?

[weary palm]

I have a newer build... wait

[wanton sun]

do you have access to post there? if not i can do it

(or you get added)

[vapid moat]

Most of the saves I can import from Retroarch to experiment with

[daring meteor]

Did you implement endian swapping?

[ornate obsidian]

Ok so can any help me problem solve this: I'm using a tribute 64 controller, in Perfect Dark it seems the game thinks my control stick and d-pad is the same thing

[daring meteor]

(It looks like you did)

(But just confirm it lol)

[knotty zealot]

nes emulator requires tlb

[vapid hawk]

when you map the controller in the core, up/down/left/right refer to the dpad. dont map anything to the analog stick it'll just find it by itself

[ornate obsidian]

Oh.

Thanks 😄

[weary palm]

Split save files into eep, sra, fla, mpk and tpk
Add "wide" tag detection to database. Auto-switches to widescreen if found.
Prioritize N64-database_user.txt, so that people can override games already in the regular database file.
Honour order that rpak, cpak and tpak are written in database, for p1 controller.

No I don't have write access there.

[daring meteor]

So this should include everything barring CPAK randomization, good

[zinc dawn]

Goldeneye Errors out

[weary palm]

Sorry, what do you mean by this? English hard.

[daring meteor]

Cpak are technically meant to have random initial states

"all physical controller paks should have different header checksums, as this directly facilitates the detection of swapping two different controller paks. On real hardware, an error such as this is displayed when removing one pak and inserting another:"

https://github.com/RobertPeip/Mister64/issues/12

[weary palm]

interesting

[wanton sun]

this would be a nice add: if the main would generate cpak if none was found on sdcard, the core would not need init logic and no init rom, we could have random values AND a fresh cpak without manual format

[daring meteor]

Afaik yxkalle's main currently generates cpak

So this would be an easy add

[wanton sun]

oh it does already

[daring meteor]

Yes, just not randomized
(Again, unless I'm misreading source code)

[wanton sun]

i realy need to try it...too bad i don't have much time this weekend and the regression really bugs me

sorry @weary palm that i cannot give it the attention it deserves. This whole work is really helping the core so much

i will take a look very soon, i promise

[zinc dawn]

Perfect Dark works OK goldeneye I get error 40 and 10

[weary palm]

is it the first 32 bytes that should be unique?

[daring meteor]

No

[wanton sun]

@zinc dew i uploaded the testbuild from yxkalle. Maybe you can add him so he could upload in future to the test-builds channel

[zinc dawn]

Also If anyone can help me set up the controls (dualshock 4) that would be grand, as its messing around with the axis.

[daring meteor]

The github shows what is done

[eternal island]

turok 2 fast ram access i think helps a bit

i didn't have fps counter on

[wanton sun]

yes, again, maybe that was lost: all the new working games are too slow currently as TLB and datacache don't work together yet. This will improve in the next 2 weeks or so

for some like Gauntlet it's obvious, for some not so much

however, i want to make sure first that the bugs are out before adding that

[magic girder]

I think the hype probably got to us @wanton sun

[eternal island]

not sure turok 2 is really going to improve.. this game had dips to 1fps on real hardware lol

if anything it might run better

[wanton sun]

i will NOT promise anything faster than original hardware, haha

[cerulean elk]

I mean you’ve got a Christmas goal to prove to everyone after all Lolol

[orchid nimbus]

1 game to play

[eternal island]

oh i know. i think it might already be running better.. which is sad for turok 2

[magic girder]

Just out of interest, is that the last of the TLB related bits of work you need to do, or is there still more?

[orchid nimbus]

shut up 😄

[wanton sun]

still plenty to do. about 50% done

[chrome quest]

For a double check on regression;
On N64_20231121.rbf;
Banjo Tooie (patched) working
Dōbutsu no Mori (and Animal Forest Translation) working.

Both not working on latest core (all variants). Hopefully the additional game example might help you Robert. Don't think Dōbutsu no Mori uses TLB?

[eternal island]

with faster ram access, turok 2 may run better but its been ages since i played it on n64 real hardware

[magic girder]

Gotcha. Thanks. I read the most recent patreon post but couldn’t quite relate the next steps to the changelog notes in today’s build.

[wanton sun]

thank you

[daring meteor]

Other than that, you got the 2 entry minitlb, and is that it?

[wanton sun]

currently it's a 1 entry

want to keep it as simple as possible, fix all bugs, then improve things for full speed

the only reason i added it, is that without instruction cache things are so slow, it's impossible to test

[little socket]

what is the goal for revolt and shadow man this time?

[daring meteor]

Ah, so 50% is for the fast data TLB and bugs

[wanton sun]

yes

[daring meteor]

Got it

[wanton sun]

shadow man already runs better than psx2x with turbo high

[orchid nimbus]

I'm impressed as heck for the 96% compatability rate for the USA roms

[quick arch]

the dobutsu no mori is working on my side

[orchid nimbus]

might not be 100% perfect but most games are perfectly playable

[little socket]

not bad

[chrome quest]

Thanks. Curious if anyone else can try, maybe some difference going on. Have you run update_all recently? I've been manually adding the N64 core, not update in a week or more

[weary palm]

should it be enough if I generate four blank mpk's with mpkedit and use them as game_1.mpk, game_2.mpk, game_3.mpk and game_4.mpk?

[quick arch]

I don't use update all (but using the last unstalbe main mister)

[wanton sun]

hmm yes, also works here (translation version)

[wanton sun]

yes

but you could also use the code, it's really small

[daring meteor]

No because its in js and not C

[weary palm]

Yes, but what about my lazyness?

[quick arch]

Banjo Tooie USA cracked version also works on my side

[daring meteor]

And good luck invoking js every time you want to create a new save game

[weary palm]

probably easy to convert to C, though

[wanton sun]

there is c code in the github issue?

[daring meteor]

There is a C code from another app

[wanton sun]

with fresh core boot? it does not for me

or maybe it's random

[quick arch]

will try fresh core boot

fresh boot it is not working

i will try after loading another game to see

[cerulean elk]

What’s the Turok 2 story speed wise? Slow?

[wanton sun]

slow but maybe not much worse than real n64? no idea

[cerulean elk]

Bingo thx

[quick arch]

Banjo Tooie cracked version
Fresh boot -> not working
after loading another game -> working

[wanton sun]

yes could also reproduce that, so probably some kind of reset issue

[quick arch]

I will test with Dobutsu no mori to see if it is the same pattern

[wanton sun]

it worked for me with fresh boot

will try to find out this weekend which change broke tooie. shouldn't be very difficult, there is not much that even could be the reason as most was for tlb

but it will take some builds = time

[zinc dawn]

Hey guys does Goldeneye work for any of you?

[wanton sun]

no, it does not yet

[zinc dawn]

Thanks for confirming

I got it to boot a couple of times. It's random

Crashed when I got to dam. The intro played at full speed!

[mossy needle]

Banjo-Tooie (hack) works fine for me

Goldeneye nothing loads yet

[zinc dawn]

Perfect Dark seems spot on my friend. Excellent work ❤️

[mossy needle]

I'm using a goldeneye all unlockables hack to see if anything loads

[zinc dawn]

I do think some of the in game cutscenes lag

[mild ether]

Dr Mario 64 Lodgenet still freezes for me on current core.

[zinc dawn]

Let me know how it goes bud

Can get to menu 😂

So close to perfection.. won't be long now ❤️

[mild ether]

Give it another month and a day.

[zinc dawn]

With Roberts speed will be definitely before Xmas.

Goldeneye X...Mas

[worn delta]

Going to be like Christmas 1998 all over again 🙂

[zinc dawn]

It's one of the few games I can't live without.

[mild ether]

No boot for Mario Golf lodgenet.

0080000

[zinc dawn]

What's lodgenet?

[mild ether]

It was the n64 they had in hotel rooms pay to play.

[zinc dawn]

Oh you have that rom? Cool

The regular one plays fine

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah

[mild ether]

Yes, there is a whole set of them.

[zinc dawn]

Crazy...but why bother with that one?

I'm curious

[mild ether]

I try to test the less used roms to make sure everything is working correctly.

[vapid hawk]

sometimes you find a bug on boot in one game no-one cares about but its the same bug that happens randomly 40 hours into another game

[mild ether]

Yep, want to find all the bugs across the entire library of roms.

[zinc dawn]

I see.

I wonder how many other obscurities there are

I like Doshin the Giant

[woeful grove]

I can take care of this

@weary palm you should be able to post in test-build

[mild ether]

There is lodgenet, iQue, Aleck 64, prototypes and kiosk.

[chrome quest]

@wanton sun I'd found Animal Forest not booting.
Can confirm after running update_all I now have the same behaviour as @quick arch, no Animal Forest issues, Tooie working so long as I load another game first.
Ping incase the MiSTer update dependence is of any use/interest to you. I wasn't aware of any recent requirements there.

[weary palm]

Wow, such a great power

[woeful grove]

[zinc dawn]

Any idea how Goldeneye X is coming along?

[weary palm]

It works nicely 🙂

[drowsy lantern]

Is there a list of all the cores that Robert has developed? I know of PSX, N64 and GBA, but others?

[woeful grove]

wonderswan

lynx

[zinc dawn]

I played the last publicly available release a good few years back.

I know Wreck was working on the campaign.

It went dormant for years though so I thought it would never be finished.

[weary palm]

@wanton sun Now I've modified main so that each mpak get a different header. I did it the lazy way and just pre-generated 4 paks and grabbed the first 768 bytes and put them in a [4][768] array. 🙂

[chrome quest]

yxkalle, testing the MiSTer unstable you've made. Working great. Just to confirm;
Pokémon Stadium 2 test. Old ".sav" still in the folder. I also now have;

• Pokemon Stadium 2 (Europe).fla (128KB)
• Pokemon Stadium 2 (Europe).tpk (32KB)
  Would the additional TPAK of ports 2 - 4 only be populated once that capability is added?
  Also, I took the ".tpk" file and renamed to a Pokémon Crystal GB save. Worked flawlessly! No endian swapping or anything needed. This is great!

[weary palm]

You can't mount a tpak in those ports so... I will add it if support in the core is added. 🙂

[daring meteor]

Very nice, I think we soon will have many confused people

[daring meteor]

Not sur, but Doesn't that miss the point?

[weary palm]

Are there games that utilize more than one transfer pak?

[chrome quest]

Understood. Very convenient though as it is, helps alot.
I guess a note your probably already aware of, but testing with Mario Golf, as the TPAK is always 32KB, the immediate swap over to GB core requires truncation as that is only 8KB for the GB save

[chrome quest]

Yeah, both Pokémon Stadiums ideally use all 4. Mario Golf would need 2 for all characters. Niche cases, but some

[daring meteor]

Does taking it straight break anything

[chrome quest]

I'll try....

[weary palm]

There are three Pokémon stadiums ackschually

[daring meteor]

I love Pokemon Stadium 0

[weary palm]

Japanese only

[weary palm]

What do you mean?

[daring meteor]

I was like "Wasn't the point games could detect if a different cpak is used" before realizing there's no in core way to swap cpaks like that

So I'm unsure

[zinc dawn]

So we can use virtual tpaks?

[weary palm]

True, but now it's done. xD

Feels like a good practice to give the N64 four different cpaks...

[oblique crow]

Yeah Robert, on newest core

I will message you my setup

[chrome quest]

Testing GB export from 32KB TPAK with Mario Golf. Seems to not care about the larger GB SAV file size.
At least from a cursory initial test. Loaded in just fine on GB. Seem to be able to save and reload.
Might be worth someone familiar with the GB core confirm there's no ill side effects from larger SAV files, but perhaps it is just being ignored?

[daring meteor]

Where Does the SGB core save files?

[chrome quest]

Not sure if that is the best change, would make the GB saves subsequently oversized (if these were all pulling from the same pool), and no longer match original hardware for that section of save file conversions

Not sure about SGB... Just been using GAMEBOY

[daring meteor]

Its not really a change, more of "Do we really have to implement a method to trim GB saves"

[weary palm]

I don't want to do it. Feels like that would require another database.

[daring meteor]

Yeah

[chrome quest]

Minor one, but as far as boot order goes, Mario Golf using TPAK defaulted to Rumble, and in that game, TPAK only seems to integrate if booted with TPAK in place.
Only took a reset to fix, but a game that would miss it otherwise.
Can't recall the earlier order discussion, but could TPAK be above the others (perhaps only if GB ROM loaded, or just generally?)

[brisk drum]

KI gold just looks amazing to me

[oblique crow]

heh

@wanton sun got a doozy for you.

So I booted everything back up, tried to play BT - no dice.

However...

I thought back to what my steps were after getting the new core this morning.

I started PD immediately. So from within PD, I launched BT.

Lo and behold... it launched.

[mild ether]

Gauntlet Legends lodgenet works!

[daring meteor]

Yeah we discovered that already lol

[oblique crow]

oh...

sadge

[daring meteor]

The doozier part haha

[oblique crow]

I thought I helped for a minute.

[mild ether]

Very slow but it loads in game.

[daring meteor]

At least (if that's not clear) it means its an easier fix haha

[weary palm]

Can't get pocket monsters statium (Japan) to load Pokemon green from transfer pak. Am I doing something wrong? 🙂

[mild ether]

That's a solid 3 frames a second, maybe even 3.4 FPS.

[worn delta]

I don't think that Mapper is supported yet

Pokemon games are a mess of mappers across regions it seems

[weary palm]

oh, I though it used the same mapper as US / EU

facinating

[worn delta]

Nah, MBC1

There is a tab on the sheet that has the mappers listed

[weary palm]

thx

[worn delta]

We only have MBC5 currently

We need MBC1, MBC3A and MBC3B to be added to have full Pokemon coverage

[chrome quest]

Though saying that, English Gold/Silver/Crystal (despite being MBC3), work in Stadium 2 in all areas other than the GB Tower mode

[weary palm]

someone messed with the header of non-pokemon gb games and managed to make them boot in stadium iirc

[dusty tusk]

Really wish dk64 remembered your widescreen settings so I could just set it and forget it

[eternal island]

would be cool if you could simulate the game being loaded from the gb/gbc core save data and game

give me a reason to play through them again lol

[chrome quest]

Some manual interaction with saves needed (at least for now), but you can totally do that

[eternal island]

you can? maybe i'm out of the loop on the gb/gbc stuff

i'll give it a try after work

[zealous hull]

Hi friends, speaking of all of this. I finally got my SNAX stuff from MisterAddons.

I'm able to load my Pokemon data with my actual carts via TransferPak when the I have SNAC set as the first port, but can't seem to get anything to be read when SNAC is set in ports 2-4. Is this a known limitation?

[weary palm]

YES

@dusty tusk found this https://patch.wedarobi.com/dk_widescreen

[deft tree]

SNAC is 1:1 so your SNAX will simulate ports 1 and 2, the future coming SNAX64 will have 4 ports (but 3/4 are for n64 core only) and will support what you’re trying to do

[zealous hull]

Oh wow, so I should literally just change ports on the actual SNAX box?

[deft tree]

Yeah if you want SNAC p2 just plug the controller into port 2 on your SNAX then set it in core

[solemn maple]

Played paper mario 6 hours now and I've had zero crashes yet.

I did not fight the bird boss in the desert yet though, I know someone had a problem during that fight.

Tried to fight the bird now and it froze.

[zealous hull]

I knew it was 1:1, but I still don't think I would have ever thought of that.

Thanks much @deft tree

[vapid hawk]

when you set a controller to snac in the OSD doesn't it say like "snac (p1)" ?

[deft tree]

Np

[zealous hull]

When you're setting the Pad types? It just says SNAC. Nothing more.

[vapid hawk]

huh

maybe thats PSX core that does that

kind of gives you a hint

[zealous hull]

I just got it in less than an hour ago, so I expected there to be some troubleshooting. Just thankful for this server.

[hollow rune]

I tried to scan through, but anyone got a quick recap on what games are newly working? Gauntlet?

[vapid hawk]

most tlb games

turoks, goldeneye, perfect dark etc

[zealous hull]

I think we have--what--9 (USA) games that are just no-go at this point?

[vapid hawk]

there's some instability and slowness still

[hollow rune]

I meant today against last release

[daring meteor]

Goldeneye doesn't work

[vapid hawk]

yeah

[daring meteor]

Turok

[eternal island]

goldeneye x*

think that only has the first 2 levels of the campaign

[daring meteor]

There's 13 total games not working, and out of those 5 have workarounds (Banjo 2, Fifa, Mario Tennis, Wave race Shindou, and the Battletanks)

[mild ether]

Gauntlet lodgenet works at about 3 fps.

[weary palm]

That DK64 widescreen hack works great 🙂 I added this to my N64-database_user.txt
fca204f4e43816d489355d9ede736d1d ntsc|cic6105|eeprom2k|rpak|wide # Donkey Kong 64 (Widescreen Hack)

[mild ether]

The regular rom doesn't work.

[cerulean elk]

GoldenPanda; Bamboo edition

[mild ether]

Sin and punishment is missing from the no intro set. Strange.

[marble cargo]

Probably under it's Japanese name Tsumi to Batsu: Hoshi no Keishōsha

[mild ether]

There it is, thanks.

I was missing the tsumi to batsu part.

[dusty tusk]

Nice, I'll give to a shot.

[chrome quest]

Mario Tennis TPAK use is probably the most interesting use case I've ever seen!

First linking the GB game to N64 allows trasfer of GB characters, adding to N64 roster.
Back on GB core, you've got new Mario charcters, and sets of character themed minigames for each of them.
Beat level 1, unlock 2, endless level 3.
(After mixed online reports, I can confirm just beating level 3 with a score of 100 is not enough to get N64 unlocks. Surprisingly even 223 was not enough, but 246 was. I struggled to get to 250/300. Glad I tried another transfer. Who knows what score is needed for each minigame......)
GB minigames unlock N64 unique course.
Certainly alot of back and forth. Thanks to @weary palm, that step at least only took a very quick file rename and transfer to GB/N64 save folders.

[cerulean elk]

It’s just got a diff name

[mild ether]

Yeah, I found it. I was originally looking just for Sin and Punishment like it was named in the iQue set.

[cerulean elk]

Yeah it gets confusing when you swap over to Japanese

[mossy needle]

I think a couple other people found this but the game freezes when the guy does this. Music still persists

[cerulean elk]

Mrs Esoterica just said she’d make a video. Channel is gonna be so much better soon!

[fair stump]

Views gonna pop off

[chilly ember]

Conker's Bad Fur Day ECTS beta can get in game but it still crashes pretty quick

[modern sleet]

Anyone wanna test the YC build? I'm not at home to test @vapid hawk🙏

[marble cargo]

Uncovered footage of Conker doing black face. You hate to see it.

[brisk drum]

Rakuga kids is so much fun

Anybody beat the story mode yet?

[vapid hawk]

yes thanks

[modern sleet]

I wonder if airports would give me trouble for trying to carry on a 8inch PVM everywhere I go

[brisk drum]

Probably

[chilly ember]

Some more Conker's Bad Fur Day gameplay before it crashes. Seems there's only really two levels on the beta that don't crash instantly

[modern sleet]

If its good ill push it through to git

[vapid hawk]

looks good, ran around hyrule field for 10mins

svideo & composite

if your airline doesn't even have seatback PVMs what are you even doing?

[brisk drum]

Mark down rakuga kids as completable

Fun game solid fighter

[brisk drum]

I’m on this after the kids head to bed

[modern sleet]

Thanks ! Pushed it to git

[vapid hawk]

thanks for the build!

[solemn marlin]

I'll hold my breath until Goldeneye is playable, I think it's close now

[vapid hawk]

n64 is my favorite one to play with composite

[modern sleet]

Saturn is another core that looks best on composite imo

[vapid hawk]

i had rgb scart with my saturn from day 1 so its not how i remember it

does look good though, especially with those checkerboard transparency effects

[keen hazel]

Dude I launched that game a few days ago on the core and it crashed on that very frame with reeeaaally weird noises that was so scary

Lasted a good minute

Nightmarish sounds

Like a cursed game creepypasta

[weary palm]

Wawawiwa

[vapid hawk]

anyone give me a spoiler-free hint for OOT? where do i sell the bunny mask? a few npcs told me there's someone going around following rabbits, but where are there even rabbits in the world? just a vague hint is fine

[keen hazel]

Look for someone in Hyrule Field

[vapid hawk]

the running guy?

[cerulean elk]

Yeah prolly gonna get weird

[vapid hawk]

cool thanks i had a hunch, just gotta find him 🙂

[chilly ember]

Japanese version of goldeneye is getting in game, got to run around for 5 seconds before it crashed

Better than none :p

I'm just happy to see it get in game and not crash instantly

Hopefully 😄

[chrome quest]

Couldn't recall your post so searched the discord. Realised I was asking for a change in TPAK order that you may have had a better understanding of from test.
I guess CPAK before TPAK in your experience. My issue is TPAK detection for the Camelot games, where they have RPAK + TPAK.
Perhaps there is no clash there, but would CPAK > TPAK > RPAK for priority be an improvement?
Figure you might be a good person to ask based on your comments

[worn delta]

If I remember he doesn't appear until later in the game, I can't remember what the trigger is off hand. You can do the first 3 masks right away, maybe it is the 3rd temple?

[vapid hawk]

ah cool thanks, yeah i was just doing a load of sidequests and ignoring the main dungeons for the moment. was curious how much you can do

[trim seal]

The regular Gauntlet rom? Works for me just fine. FA FPS, but it works.

There isn't a lodgenet section in the compatibility spreadsheet yet is there?

[languid dune]

@weary palm I tested out that new update where you can manually set a game to prioritize the rumble pak over the controller pak in the auto detect. Works perfectly! 🎉

[trim seal]

German South Park, Shadow Man and Turok Legenden des Verlorenen Landes have been updated to playable.

[languid dune]

You can actually set the order of priority manually now on a game by game basis with today's MiSTer main unstable update.

[worn delta]

Do we know what is causing Wave Race 64 - Kawasaki Jet Ski (Japan) not to work?

[vapid hawk]

something to do with pif i think?

[languid dune]

It's an issue with the save type. If you change it to any wrong type, the game will boot. But the correct save type is for some reason preventing that game from booting. You can change it, have the game boot, and then change it back so the game can save. But there is no means of having the game load that save.

[cerulean elk]

It’s an issue with you being from Wisconsin

There I said it 😂

[worn delta]

That's an odd one, is this the only game with this type of issue?

[chrome quest]

Ahh, thanks, good workaround. I guess I'd still want to ask if the default order would be better re-arranged, if only to avoid a particular clash that requires a game reset if that is possible. Perhaps there are other games where Rumble before TPAK would be better, but I couldn't think of any personally

Well, if there is a way to see if a GB ROM is even loaded at all. If not, I can imagine people playing various TPAK supporting games with no GB ROM, and Rumble might be preferred

[trim seal]

Ok, that's it - in the ROW category, there's only one game left that doesn't boot, which is Banjo Tooie (Australia). Everything else in ROW is at least playable. I haven't re-tested all the ones that were already marked as playable, just the ones that were no-boots or boots only, so this won't reveal regressions or improvements beyond playable, but it's nice to see the progress.

[chrome quest]

I think that is the only one

Beyond the majority of game working, looking at the test sheet, very few even have error codes anymore!

[worn delta]

Weird, with that being a revision of a game that works fine

Has Robert said he knows how to fix it?

[chrome quest]

Might not be the most recent message, but sounds like he might have ideas alright #1096015979055697940 message

[random portal]

how does the save file splitting work in the mister main test build?

is it an option to allow different save types to exist for a game? or is it a tool for save file transferring?

[chrome quest]

Previously the whole save was just one file. Now it splits into every sub section; base save, CPAK (if used), TPAK (if used)
If you use the test build with existing saves, might consider backing up first to be safe, but from my experience it will take an existing save and reformat to the new split style, but leave the previous version as a redundancy.

It being altered to this new form makes save file transferring a lot easier

[random portal]

yooooo That is essential!

Thanks for the explanation

[trim seal]

Oh... I didn't notice when this happened, but the screen flash-up before the DK64 demo mode and the puzzle construction in BK / BT demo modes is fixed.

[wise hemlock]

I just stretched Mario's Face on a MiSTer

[chrome quest]

@wanton sun Goldeneye (PAL version), similiar behaviour to Banjo Tooie.
On latest update, using MiSTer_split_save_20231124
From fresh boot, black screen only.
Loading other games, then Goldeneye can sometimes work. Example, Glover -> Goldeneye from fresh boot resulted in black screen E00000040.
Next attempt of the same procedure; fresh boot -> Glover -> Goldeneye, intro playing just fine

[native mesa]

Looks like I missed a big day

[orchid nimbus]

yes

[chrome quest]

Another case of CPAK to Rumble issues going direct from one to the other.
Jeremy McGrath Supercross 2000
Boot with CPAK to save, to switch to Rumble successfully, you need to set pad from CPAK to N64Pad. Close OSD. Reopen, set to Rumble Pak, close OSD

[random portal]

what are you gonna stretch nextr?

[dusty tusk]

Maybe switching paks should auto switch to disconnected for a set time before the next pak is inserted

[brisk drum]

GODDANG KI IS HARD TO BEAT

done did it though

[eternal ravine]

I disabled all the blur for KI Gold and hoooboy

[brisk drum]

Gonna beat it on hard tomorrow

Normal was hard enough so .. ima need a six pack lol

[random portal]

what's your score I need to start practicing

[dusty tusk]

Absolute banger of a soundtrack though.

[eternal ravine]

Did the KI games get "perfect" ports to later consoles?

[languid dune]

Xbox One / Series

[eternal ravine]

It's trippy that it took that long

[languid dune]

With the ownership changing hands from Nintendo to MS over the years, that probably played a part in it.

Though if Nintendo still owned the rights to it, we probably would have never gotten true arcade version ports.

[eternal ravine]

Midway always had some screwy hardware in the arcade

[mortal panther]

"Available for your home in 1995!" ☝️

[languid dune]

They were right! .....just not on the console you expected.

[mortal panther]

It was the console you needed! 😉

[languid dune]

I love how there is a lost SNES port of KI2 as well out there. Wish it would one day leak.

[mortal panther]

They blurred the lines of reality.

[cerulean elk]

A whole cloth lie from Midway and Nintendo

[mortal panther]

But we all eventually got over it and realized that what we did end up getting was so much better!

[eternal ravine]

What? That it would be ported home so quickly?

[elfin depot]

That the arcade was running basically an n64, what you would be buying at home I believe.

[orchid nimbus]

#arcade

[random portal]

I don't know if I did something wrong, but the core isn't loading games for me anymore.

it stays stuck like this

[chilly ember]

Managed to get a single kill in multiplayer mode before it crashed/softlocked on Japanese Goldeneye

[quasi storm]

Conkers BFD is hit or miss. It's trying SO HARD.

Managed to get past the logo sequence once. The walk in to the cock and plucker never loads.

[random portal]

it loads slowly huh

[chilly ember]

The ects beta gets in the bar and you can load a couple levels

Most crash instantly but pisstastic level and mugged level let you play for a minute sometimes

[quasi storm]

Oh, will it load if it sits for a minute?

[chilly ember]

You can skip the intro in the ECTS beta version

[random portal]

thanks MikeS for keep us Y/C chads up to date <3

[cerulean elk]

The hardware being N64. Just wasn’t true

[chilly ember]

@quasi storm ECTS version

[random portal]

For some reason I cannot load hacked ROMs anymore

or maybe because the particular hack is not in the database it crashes when making the saves?

[quasi storm]

Wonder what is missing for Conkers textures

[random portal]

So yeah it looks like if the game is not on the database it won't load.

will have to try more games

[quasi storm]

Hey! Got all the way to the file select in vanilla conker. Record?

[fallen sparrow]

Mind if I share this in a tweet?

[chilly ember]

No worries :p

Right now I'm entering cheat codes in on the japanese version because i'm impatient and wanna see more levels loading 😅

[quasi storm]

Were you able to follow menu flow to get to the Dam level?

[fallen sparrow]

Nice

[chilly ember]

I managed to get to play dam level for about 30 seconds before it crashed once. I'm having more luck with data force wb on

[quasi storm]

I was able to get farther in conker with fast ram on. Have you tried that, too?

[chilly ember]

Yea i've been turning that on too but not sure if it makes a difference

Got to shoot some guys in silo level

[fallen sparrow]

https://twitter.com/PixelCNinja/status/1728305239466336307?t=jXK_EeadaXH2SQOXNVvyBg&s=19

[random portal]

using the experimental MiSTer main that splits the saves, it seems like if the game isn't in the database it doesn't know what to do so it just freezes when loading a rom. Reverted back to stable MiSTer main and they work again.
#test-builds message

[daring meteor]

The change yxkalle did makes it so we just need to edit the database per game

[whole zinc]

Enjoyed the slide show ☹️

[wind helm]

does Bomberman work now ?

[oblique crow]

that door noise loop

hahaha

thats certainly a lot farther than what we were getting

[thorn flax]

yeah,

[wind helm]

really ? awesome!

I will try it right away

I love Bomberman on all platforms

[weary palm]

That's why it's called unstable. So You can help me find bugs like that.

[wanton sun]

with such a huge change, it would be a surprise if it didn't had any bugs

i will probably wait until it's in the next main release before removing the cpak format functionality

[plucky nymph]

Is Ocarina Of Time and Majora's Mask completable now?

[wanton sun]

OoT was completed for sure. I'm currently at the last temple with recent builds. MM i'm not sure, but i think it was also?

[knotty zealot]

zip support yet?

[wanton sun]

all non-CD cores support zip?

[plucky nymph]

nice! time to play some Zelda. do we still have to use the gamecube versions?

[wanton sun]

OoT has two issues: when teleporting with a song, the animation has some lines in the transparent effect and sometimes a single polygon is not drawn, like 1 every few minutes

normal NTSC and PAL work

[plucky nymph]

Thanks, Robert.

[vapid hawk]

the redux patches work too - highly recommend those

faster text speed, map iron boots to dpad, that kind of thing

[spare meadow]

Hi Robert! Is this withe triangle an issue too or is it a original hardware thing?

[wanton sun]

it's a bug. it also happens random in the game every few minutes

not always that big, however

[weary palm]

the hang when a game isn't found in database had nothing to do with the new save system. xD I went outside an array and the program went kaplowie.

[spare meadow]

Had this problem when I tried to use yesterday the new “Test Mister Main”.
When I changed back to the unstable Mister, its start to work again

[native mesa]

Yes I completed MM 100%

[knotty zealot]

oh, i thought that was something that had to be worked into each core

[native mesa]

Does yxkalle new save stuff only generate applicable files or will there be tpak and cpak saves for non tpak etc etc. I guess I could just try it out for myself I am excited for this. It will make transferring to my pocket easier for the Gameboy saves

[weary palm]

no there will not be a cpak or tpak unless the "System settings" says so.

[oblique remnant]

any chance to get the fps counter correctly working in 480i mode? It's certainly not running in 60fps

[weary palm]

perhaps it's slow enough that you can count em manually

[oblique remnant]

10 at least 😄

[spare meadow]

Funny thing is that white triangle is not random. Its appears every time at the same place (opening scene).

[thorn flax]

someone launched an e-ink display that can display 15fps, might be a perfect way to play these games

[weary palm]

wouldn't it be funnier if it actually was random?

[native mesa]

Lol

[weary palm]

predictable errors are much preferable.

[native mesa]

Well 'funny' is often a result of the unexpected so maybe it was unexpected to be expected

funny to be unfunny

[oblique remnant]

there is no way I'm going to try to complete Turok 2 in 10fps. Not sure If I could get used to that framerate again 😄

[wanton sun]

the fps counter works by detecting a change of the framebuffer address. In interlace mode, every frame changes the address by 1 line. Maybe i could check if the difference is "large enough" to be a real change

in case of turok however, i would just use low-res, it's better anyway

[oblique remnant]

I forgot that low res was an option in that game. it's a bit better but still in the 10-15 range I guess

[weary palm]

does rayman 2 run slower in higher res too?

[zinc dawn]

Pretty much how I'm feeling.

[marble cargo]

There is definitely a performance difference between the high and low settings.

[weary palm]

new unstable MiSTer Main in #test-builds

https://youtu.be/wjIfTgxEDug

Extra used potato

[prisma hawk]

Hi @tender pine, I am using the Raphnet a (Dual/ 2 player version) as well and have the same issue. Did you fix it? I've tried various things such as uninstalling the N64 controller input files, re-mapping in Main using different configurations and then again in the N64 core and running update all, but to no avail. Perfect Dark also controls incorrectly with the y and x axis, I think, using the default control scheme, Joanna looks up/ down whilst walking. Sensitivity also seems too strong, notable when moving up and down in menu options, but would have to compare against my N64 to be sure. The analogue stick with Quake II seemed to function OK, though. Thanks

[weary palm]

How does it behave in another emulator?

[hollow badger]

how do you edit an entry to the compatibility tracker?

[fair stump]

You have to have edit permission. @worn delta controls that

[hollow badger]

thanks

[worn delta]

Just request access if you are testing and want to log your findings

[weary palm]

Are backups made of the tracker? It's quite easy to mess it up.

[hollow badger]

ok. trying to figure out how to do that now.

request sent

[worn delta]

That's you added, if you can have a read of the first tab which has some guides for testing and updating

The sheet has version control so you can revert back to a previous version if someone really makes a mess of things

[toxic pumice]

man turok rage wars actually plays REALLY well with this latest build

I know TLB games generally have lower than expected performance at the moment but this seems fine??

[hollow badger]

sweet edit the tracker then

nvm Vampier beat you to it

[daring meteor]

There's 13 games remaining

[hollow badger]

Is there a way yet to slow down the framerate

[daring meteor]

Slow down?

[hollow badger]

have less frame rate

[wanton sun]

does this include the ones with workaround, e.g. Tooie?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[wanton sun]

ok, so 12 today. No, not tooie 🙂

will test some more with Zelda, then upload

[daring meteor]

Let's see which of the games is fixed haha

Its 8 with workarounds rn

[magic girder]

Fingers crossed for Conker’s or Goldeneye

[chrome quest]

Probably some a bit generous on playable on NTSC tab, like single FPS Gauntlet 🤣
Really getting there

Amazingly few error codes too, and often repeats

[wanton sun]

Gauntlet isn't really playable yet

[hollow badger]

ive been holding out on this and the dk cut scene playing at the right speed. these would make it perfect to me (not that i am not very grateful for the insane progress up to now)

[daring meteor]

Great, so 13 games haha

[marble cargo]

Hoping the random crashes in Paper Mario will be fixed soon.

[chrome quest]

Robert, did you want pings on any bit 40 or 60 error codes?

[daring meteor]

There's only 5 broken TLB games with no workaround and all of them are bangers, wow

[silent marten]

I wonder if there are some crash fixes coming today (e.g. Goldeneye and Conker)

[daring meteor]

BattleTanx, Indiana Jones, GoldenEye, Star Wars ,Conker's Bad Fur Day

[raw oriole]

Never played BattleTanx, is that good?

[wanton sun]

if they are 100% reproduceable at the same spot, 0x40 is very helpful (0x60 is the same with one additional bit, so this also)

[cerulean elk]

editing time

fun seeing all this new stuff run

[solemn marlin]

I passed out after 15mins but I'll try again now, Goldeneye will surely work by then

Uh I also got all cups in mario amped up, not sure if mods/patches count but it works pretty great

[weary palm]

Anyone tested my new main?

[solemn marlin]

The levels are well-designed but all custom tracks really reminds you of how good nintendo are at directing the player through the track

[spare meadow]

I did. Use today built. Xeno Crisis is not database detectable and don’t freezes anymore. Unfortunately, the wide screen auto-detect didn’t work for me (or I don’t know how to enable it😀)

[weary palm]

You add "wide" tags into the database

@wanton sun would it be possible to add a non-persistant "aspect ratio override" status flag so that the aspect ratio isn't kept wide if you leave the core while playing a game that use my new "wide" flag?

[wanton sun]

The aspect ratio has some magic with it to be able to display settings from the mister.ini, i don't know how much i can change it

with magic, i mean code in main doing something with it

[weary palm]

Ah ok

Thanks

[wanton sun]

maybe you can use that existing code in main and modify it for the core? i don't know.

[weary palm]

I don't have XC header or md5 so I can't add it.

[zinc dawn]

I'll wait until the next release. You never know

[wanton sun]

No TLB improvements today, sorry

[zinc dawn]

That's perfectly ok. You've done amazing work in such a small amount of time. It's Murphy's law that the 1 game I do want to play cannot work.

😂

I'm just playing some PS2 horrors while waiting. Kuon, is really good.