Nintendo 64

[mild ether]

Ohh, paperboy sounds fun.

[eternal ravine]

Paperboy, even more so

[cerulean elk]

I need to get my wife on the channel...let her review the N64 core with her fav games

[plush summit]

If someone beats MM before me I'd be so tilted

[cerulean elk]

then I will be successful 😆

[fair stump]

Paperboy is both surprisingly fun and infuriating

[drowsy lantern]

I finished:

Mario 64 (120 stars), Mario Kart 64 (150cc), Zelda OoT (first to do so on the non-patched rom), KI Gold, Cruisn' USA, Wave Race 64 (Expert, but not Reverse (yet)), Diddy Kong Racing (100%), Banjo-Kazooie (100%), StarFox 64, and probably some others I'm forgetting. Played many others that I didn't quite beat yet (Pilotwings). Currently playing through Kirby 64. What a boring game.

[eternal ravine]

Kirby seems to have a leisurely pace

[hollow rune]

What is her handle?

[stuck summit]

That's actually a good strategy, because you play the worst ones first

[mild ether]

Msbacon?

[cerulean elk]

she doesn't have one. She wont participate in the channel. Mostly because I presume it would turn into a creepfest

[drowsy lantern]

I hate the controls. They're so stiff and slow and clunky.

[fair stump]

This is correct

[cerulean elk]

I posted a photo of her once or twice randomly...the comments were...distasteful

[wanton sun]

a romhack with kirby in mario64 and having fluid controls would be fun

[cerulean elk]

but ill ask again 🙂 for the core!

[hollow rune]

I hate how men are so often gross

[mild ether]

Well that's rude.

[blissful plaza]

Done Mario 64 & Mario Kart 64.
I'm halfway through Majora's Mask, and also the same on the first Goemon game.
And I took the idea to begin Paper Mario today...

[plush summit]

From an ex-games industry worker, tell me about it 🚬

[cerulean elk]

let's make @zinc dew mod Kirby into Doom 64 since he's our doom guy and the only attack is Kirby swallows all the demons whole with one button

[marble totem]

Where do the controller pak save files go? I created a new one in a game but don't see a new file on the mister

[wanton sun]

it's combined into one save file

[kind solar]

That sucks her alucard cosplay was great

[drowsy lantern]

From a current industry worker, tell me about it. 🤢

[oblique crow]

ROBBY IS OUR DOOM GUY??

[solemn maple]

I'm at the koopa Bros. Fortress in paper mario and have had zero issues thus far.

[oblique crow]

WHATDYA MEAAAAAAAAN

[marble totem]

Ah, I guess that explains why the mister saves are larger than I was expecting. So no way to load a .mpk memory pak file?

[oblique crow]

IM THE DOOM GUY!

[wanton sun]

https://github.com/mysterypaint/MiSTer-N64-Save-Utility

probably the easiest way currently

but you need raw files, not retroarch bloated ones

[cerulean elk]

lol that was one of the two photos ever and the DMs were...weird

[fair stump]

Think you'll play through the goemon games? People seem to love those

[drowsy lantern]

Never played the Goemon games. How are they?

[oblique crow]

Mystical Ninja blew me away as a kid

I didn't know what to expect, but I was enthralled from start to finish.

[drowsy lantern]

Like, in terms of actual quality. Keep in mind I'm not liking Kirby 64 or Castlevania 64, no matter what Awbacon says.

[hollow rune]

I finished OoT, Dr Mario, Chameleon Twist, will blast through Goemon games this month

Great Adventure is tough

[hexed knot]

Halfway through unlocking golfers in Mario Golf. Hard to do more than 1 of those a day, some take many tries to roll a good seed.

[zinc dew]

Thanks friend! Updated the spreadsheet and added your name to it. As for who updates it, anyone can, you just need to request to be authorized for editing privlidges. Please reach out to @worn delta if that's something you're interested in contributing to.

[hollow rune]

I might play that some tonight

[oblique crow]

TY ROBBY I LOVE YOU

[zinc dew]

big love, brother man

[oblique crow]

huh

[cerulean elk]

the actual panda in the photo or the panda person? lol

the panda mystique runs deep

[plush summit]

In Panda years?

[cerulean elk]

panda's are so clumsy I feel like their lifespan should be measured in accidents

[zinc dew]

let's not share personal information of other users please

[cerulean elk]

Robby's Home address: 123 Fake Street, Arlen Texas

[orchid nimbus]

@cerulean elk is a 40+ year old male from New York

[cerulean elk]

lol wrong coast

[orchid nimbus]

😛

West Coast Best Coast

[hollow rune]

I can't help that our bodies were designed for rolling and we just go into that mode automatically sometimes. There is a version of Sonic that once existed that was with a panda and was just a lot slower

[cerulean elk]

I am an IRL panda in the clumsy dept w/o skis...so I can understand their plight'

[plush summit]

Its honestly terrifying how much personal info people openly talk about themselves on Twitter

[eternal ravine]

Still better than the sloth

[zinc dew]

you're right and it's something we should be better about

[hollow rune]

I have a desire right now for to find two small skis

[cerulean elk]

People prolly know too much about me...but what can I do

[cerulean elk]

ski blades...they were all the rage for about 18 minutes back in the day. Friend of mine won Gold at X-Games until the sport died lol

little mini skis. Perfect panda size

[fair stump]

Not make everyone post selfies in discord

[plush summit]

I understand people want to connect with eachother in the Games Industry, but holy crap, dont be surprised that angry people will DM you and talk trash or harrass

[hollow rune]

I thought you were a piggy till you posted that picture. Now my only fellow animals are @night saddle , @toxic pumice , and @jolly heath .

[zinc dew]

It's what I worry about. I've had a few angry people reach out and thankfully they were positive situations. Sometimes people are crazy but also sometimes people act crazy but really just want to be heard and appreciated.

[plush summit]

This is why I stopped advertising my job or title period.

[zinc dew]

you're smart, it's not like we're networking here

[oblique crow]

wait am i in trouble

[hollow rune]

They are even advertised for bears

[zinc dew]

@oblique crow no not in the slightest

Sorry if you had that impression

[cerulean elk]

wow its too perfect

[cerulean elk]

lol I didnt make anyone...we were having fun

[odd vector]

how's your turkey going?

[fair stump]

I'm just here to discover the n64 library and chill with everyone

[cerulean elk]

My job title is "regional man of mystery"

I one day hope to be promoted to "international man of mystery"

[plush summit]

Its pretty hilarious how hard people tried to track me down when I talk honestly about experiences lol

[toxic pumice]

Dontcha know it.

Only room for one pig here

[oblique crow]

something was said about panda and I was just caught off guard because (no offense panda) I just was very confused because Panda and I weren't even talking

😵

[cerulean elk]

you forget yourself sir...aw"BACON"

[weary beacon]

Has anyone sorted out why the camera is orbiting aggressively with Castlevania? I'm using an SN30 pro, which I've configured and reconfigured prior to mapping

[toxic pumice]

Ex-pig

[oblique crow]

how do you mean?

[hollow rune]

That's dark.

You know panda bacon would be very expensive

[fair stump]

I just tried that first time yesterday and didn't have that problem in the first area.

What's the camera rotate button there?

[cerulean elk]

yeah def shouldnt happen. Sounds like something is being read as constantly depressed

[toxic pumice]

But factually accurate! Ain't no time I've ever seen living bacon.

Said nothing about ex-panda!

Wasn't that a mega drive game, very good one

You're all good, I love you all.

[oblique crow]

@weary beacon try this - I had similar issues with my NSO before (holding R would make the rest of the controller borked)

Go into main mister main screen, not in the core. Map the joystick and buttons. Make sure you map carefully, and I would recommend NOT mapping things you wont be using via user/space like mouse mode etc

See if maybe your controller setup is a little borked.

[hollow rune]

This is a very silly place

[weary beacon]

Should specify: its legacy of Darkness. Vanilla works fine. But yes the problem is corrected by remapping movement to the right stick, so I assume an unintended command is getting carried on the left

[cerulean elk]

oh I hope nobody is actually eating pandas but considering pangolin and rhino horn is eaten...never know

some place in Chicago just got busted selling pangolin meat

[odd vector]

Whats that weird coloring?

[oblique crow]

Hm?

where

[odd vector]

the grass, looks like oil slicks everywhere ^^

[oblique crow]

Pretty sure that's just... the way it is

haha

[odd vector]

no way

[oblique crow]

actually

[hollow rune]

It is hard to tell via photo. Can you take a picture with the browser app? What display are you using?

[odd vector]

CRT

[oblique crow]

I see what he's talking about. It's not the grass, it's the road.

There's posturization happening

[odd vector]

yeah sorry, the road

[oblique crow]

I actually think that could possibly be your tube

[odd vector]

I can compare to real n64

[oblique crow]

Yeah lets check

that moire pattern is making me woozy

[odd vector]

Real n64

[oblique crow]

INTERESTING

This near Mt. Fuji?

[cerulean elk]

almost looks like moire

[odd vector]

first map where you can head out from the town

[oblique crow]

No definitely see what hes talking about

yeah ok heading there now

[odd vector]

here is the core

[zinc dew]

Check to see what camera mode you’re in. Might be battle camera where it reorients to the nearest enemy.

[hollow rune]

looks normal

[odd vector]

no way sir

[zinc dew]

Try delete your core ini file. Maybe there’s an errant visual setting that’s on?

Deleting the core ini will at least ensure you’re seeing it with default settings.

[odd vector]

Will try

[hollow rune]

clearly i can't see it

[oblique crow]

Gonna try and replicate

[zinc dew]

It’s subtle but it looks like color banding in the photo he posted.

[worn delta]

Hey Dave, if you want to help testing please just request access to edit on the sheet and I can give you permissions to update the ones you have tested/completed 🙂

[oblique crow]

ok found it

You have dedither off

[zinc dew]

Right, that’s what the dither pattern is for.

[odd vector]

okay, let me check pls I will update you

[hollow rune]

booting up on og hardware

[odd vector]

dumb question, where can I find the core ini?

[hot spoke]

Mario Tennis is working for you? I get a black screen.

[worn delta]

There is a setting you have to set to get it working

[hollow rune]

turn off data cache

[oblique crow]

can you not access the mister menu @odd vector

[worn delta]

If anyone can try out the Transfer Pak support on that one would be great to confirm if that is now working, sounds like a cool use of it as well

[oblique crow]

?

[hot spoke]

Thanks guys!

[odd vector]

ah you mean in the core menu?

[hollow rune]

N64 via RetroTink 2x mini

[oblique crow]

I gota say, for what its worth, I still think somehow RetroTink Composite looks more "correct" to my eyes than my UltraHDMI or any pure digital solution

it might not be the cleanest but it looks the most correct, to me.

[hollow rune]

https://tenor.com/view/ariana-grande-gif-26049656

[odd vector]

after resetting the core settings and recheck it does still show up weird

[oblique crow]

Everything is set to Original?

[odd vector]

the floor seems greenish. But what I noticed: my HDMI connected Monitor shows no issues, only via VGA

[oblique crow]

maybe something weird with your analog setup

[odd vector]

tried a different input, same issue :/

[oblique crow]

do you have a video filter on or something?

[odd vector]

nope, as I said. I have reseted everything on the core

[orchid nimbus]

Sync On Green

[oblique crow]

could be - flip that little switch on the analog board

I set aside my analog io board awhile back too so i didnt even think of that

[odd vector]

nope, didn't do anything

[weary palm]

was the mempak data little endian or something?

[hollow rune]

I feel silly that I can't see it

Tried to get the same shot. Is it that the grass is just better blended?

[odd vector]

not the grass, the brown floor

[fair stump]

This green splotch?

[odd vector]

yes

[hollow rune]

sorry, the road

[odd vector]

i think I just delete the mister ini and reset everything.. Hopefully it's an issue there

[knotty zealot]

that's the doom eternal main character

[hollow rune]

please share a shot if it gets fixed

[worn delta]

Is this definitely an issue? If so what could cause it, something that has yet to be implemented?

Presumably not relayed to LOD or YUV?

[vapid hawk]

if its only on the analog out it might just be some color inaccuracy in your IO board

[worn delta]

Oh, Analogue out is WIP

Is this not on digital out?

[odd vector]

no, analog out via io board

[native mesa]

Analog out to what

YPbPr?

[oblique crow]

VGA

[native mesa]

To a VGA monitor?

[odd vector]

VGA -> Scart via CRT RGB

[oblique crow]

ah

[native mesa]

It's probably the scart cable

If I had to guess

[vapid hawk]

where's the IO board from? some places don't use the right resistors

[odd vector]

sadly from ali

[vapid hawk]

thats probably why

[oblique crow]

yikes - well

[native mesa]

It doesn't look that bad

[oblique crow]

not to shill for them but

I don't get my stuff from anyone other than misteraddons

had a bad experience with an OSSC and Ali

[zealous hull]

Nah, I'll shill too. MisterAddons is great.

[vapid hawk]

someone with a board from porkchop can confirm it. sorry i don't have the setup to check at the mo

[oblique crow]

I have a board but its all tucked away in my alu case

my mister that is

[native mesa]

Chinese knockoffs serve their purpose. Not everyone can afford the real deal

[oblique crow]

the analog IO board is not attached

[vapid hawk]

if you can solder you could replace the resistor ladders

cheaper than buying a new board

[odd vector]

if i would get an analogue io board from mister addons I would probably pay more for the shipping and taxes than the board itself

[oblique crow]

well there's misteraddons and then there's the one in the EU

name is escaping me

[odd vector]

switzerland is not EU, that's the issue xD

[weary palm]

how large is tpak data within the .sav file?

32kByte, right?

[wanton sun]

VGA out is only 6 bit per color

[native mesa]

4x 32 I believe

[weary palm]

thanks

[native mesa]

Oh tpak

[odd vector]

so the issue should be universal?

[weary palm]

wonder what I should call those file. .tpk or something

[native mesa]

It should be a gb sav right?

[wanton sun]

should be for everyone using VGA out or your VGA out is broken

but to have less colors over it compared to HDMI is expected

you can use directVideo for full colors

[odd vector]

shit, that means that I need to buy something new again. T_T

[oblique crow]

Maybe not?

Try directvideo

[native mesa]

HDMI to VGA dongles are cheap

[odd vector]

I have no adapter ^^

with sound?

[native mesa]

Yeah

[vapid hawk]

check before you buy - not all have sound

just look for a 3.5mm jack

i forgot about the colordepth thing - sorry for the bad info

[odd vector]

what's the downside from using directvideo?

[wanton sun]

no hdmi in parallel

[native mesa]

Donglitis

[vapid hawk]

some dongles can be slower to switch resolutions than the analogIO is

[quaint pewter]

Can I join the animal club? LOL

[hollow rune]

Most certainly

[odd vector]

do you have a manual so i can compare?

[vapid hawk]

er, sorry not sure

maybe in here? https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Hardware_MiSTer

i wouldn't worry about it though - yours may well be completely fine

[odd vector]

in my rage mode i have dissasembled this thing anyways, so I will go the extra mile ^^

[orchid nimbus]

rage dissasembly

[native mesa]

Dongleitis

[azure lance]

Analog io board output seems to have issues with greens showing up in brown towns (not sure why) but I had a lot of issues with the Super Nintendo core and greens on light brown tones

[odd vector]

okay, so it's probably not me

[azure lance]

Direct video is definitely an improvement

I’ve been using an icybox dac recently and helped with levels

Doesn’t handle resolution switching very well though so not perfect

[native mesa]

There's a new revision of analog io board isn't there with more color depth? Or did I dream that

[azure lance]

Not quite yet. Retrocastle is working an improved analog board and then there’s the new boards from porkchop soon as well

[noble ember]

I have issues with Paper Mario. After I input my name at the beginning, it skis the intro. Saving doesn't work and as soon as I get into a battle, I die.

[azure lance]

I saw the green in my analog io 6.1 with vga to rgbhv

[ornate obsidian]

PAL or NTSC?, I had no issues with NTSC atleast

[noble ember]

NTSC

[toxic pumice]

Done with work for the day, after work pint successfully demolished. What games we enjoying lads and ladies?

[solemn maple]

Paper Mario

[toxic pumice]

You know, I've never played a Paper Mario game. Maybe now's the time to see if it's my jam.

[wanton sun]

sounds like wrong database or databse missing

check your system menu if it has the same settings:

[noble ember]

@wanton sun hmm I ran update_all then update_n64

[noble ember]

Will do

[wanton sun]

i don't know what the reason is, it's just what i get when i set the wrong save type

[orchid nimbus]

@noble ember don't use update_n64 anymore but adjust update_all.sh update.ini file

(update_n64) but it's not the prefered way

[versed cairn]

I had this same problem over componant, rgb fixed it but not everyone has the option to switch between the two

[odd vector]

where did you have to adjust this setting?

[versed cairn]

in the mister.ini. componant on the analog io board is more degraded than rgb

this has come up a few times now so I feel like I should make a comparison later tonight.

[odd vector]

so is it: vga_mode: RGB and Composite_sync on?

[compact skiff]

Add the following lines to your /media/fat/downloader.ini and then run update_all.sh:
[n64_dev] db_url = https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RobertPeip/Mister64/db/db.json.zip

[versed cairn]

correct. vga_mode=rgb composite_sync=1 also make sure to turn off the sync on green switch on the mister itself

[odd vector]

sadly, this did not solve my issue 😦

[noble ember]

@compact skiff thank you!

[odd vector]

but it is apparent that the picture is more greenish than on my hdmi connected display

[versed cairn]

did you turn off sync on green?

[odd vector]

yes on mister.ini and on the slider it's on auto

[versed cairn]

people get a green tint on crt sometimes with this on

kk, sorry then dont know. might be the crt need a color calibration

[odd vector]

it's weird since it works without problems on og hardware, but no rgb mod

[versed cairn]

you have dither on right?

[odd vector]

default

[versed cairn]

just double checking

kk

[coral timber]

I was under the impression Component needs…
vga_mode=ypbpr
composite_sync=1

[odd vector]

i have vga-scart adapter

[versed cairn]

they switched to rgb mode

[iron marten]

This core makes my retro setup damn near perfect, now. All mainline consoles from gens 1-5 It can be played on my CRT, the way God intended. Consoles gen 6 and onward get the flat panel HDTV treatment, even though there was some overlap there in gen 6 (I'm looking at you Gamecube.)

[vagrant ivy]

Gamecube is Dolphin Emu on a PC

[iron marten]

I don't have a PC that will run Dolphin. I run it with Nintendont on a jailbroken Wii U.

[rare flint]

me too

[iron marten]

Got to love that hardware backwards compatibility

[hot spoke]

What kind of overlap with the Game Cube? The only oddball console in this generation is the PS2 which only has a fraction of the games supporting 480p. DC, GC and XBOX have like 99% games supporting 480p

[iron marten]

Oh, I tend to focus on aspect ratio more. I believe the Gamecube had the fewest number of games that output with native widescreen. PS2 wasn't much better

[lament escarp]

Swiss on gc can force 480p on pretty much everything.

[hot spoke]

I didn't tell any different

[lament escarp]

Just saying that 1% that doesn't do it natively can still be forced on oem hardeware. 😄

[delicate hearth]

What adapters are people using for N64 SNAC right now?

[dusty tusk]

jet force gemini widescreen is very incorrect on the core

[hot spoke]

Not with all games. I already counted in the added SWISS 480p forcing

[hot spoke]

That's what I also would like to know

[delicate hearth]

Also saving still doesn’t work for 64DD cart conversions since it edits the rom data to save instead of making a new save file

[oblique crow]

https://misteraddons.com/products/serial-native-accessory-converter-snac

https://misteraddons.com/collections/parts/products/hdmi-controller-adapters?variant=40250232832133

[delicate hearth]

Ah, it only works with the new SNAX standard? 😦

[oblique crow]

idk but I just sent porkchop some money

then whenever the reflex adapt is back, I'll grab one

[latent galleon]

reflex or similarly performant usb adapters really are the way

[oblique crow]

speaking of porkchop, what is his name on here?!

[stone pilot]

Porkchop Express (MiSTer Addons)

[oblique crow]

Yep... found him

somehow missed him on the search

[weary beacon]

I hope a regular SNAC adapter is made for N64. I don't really wanna upgrade to SNAX

[magic girder]

Would someone with edit permissions possibly be able to edit the compatibility spreadsheet to mark Beetle Adventure Racing as completable, please? I just finished all the campaign + the bonus without any issues other than what’s described already in the notes 🙂

[cold pollen]

@orchid nimbus

[zinc dew]

I can take care of it 🍻

[zinc dew]

Done! I added your name as the tester. Thanks for following-up, friend!

[magic girder]

Thanks Robby 🙂

[lament escarp]

I'm so jelly on y'all who get to have Thanksgiving. My country doesn't have that and I have to work.

[magic girder]

Brit over here so I’ll be working too 😔

[vagrant ivy]

I will be celebrating not being an American !

[lament escarp]

I'll get some Turkey and pretent a bit.

[vagrant ivy]

I flew out of the states on the 4th one year and the Check in Person wished me a happy Independance Day. I told her I was bieng deported as no Brit was allowed in the states on the 4th. She apologised 🙂

[zinc dew]

LOLOL

[lament escarp]

In the state I live we have 13 bank holidays, which is more than in any other German state, but it still feels waaaay too few.

[mossy vector]

That was a test.

[zinc dew]

@worn delta what should we do with a game like Conker which technically boots but its completely unplayable?

[worn delta]

Mark it as boots

[vagrant ivy]

Mean the devs of the game tried their best !

[magic girder]

I haven’t tested all that many games, but I’m starting to suspect that the vast majority of “playable” are probably “completable”. I wonder if it’s worth starting to pull together a preliminary list of known crashes/bugs.

[desert crow]

I'm working on it, the wait shouldn't be much longer.

[cerulean elk]

He should change his name to Snake Plissken. In honor of the best John Carpenter movie

[vagrant ivy]

The Thing is the best

[cerulean elk]

It’s 1% less my fav than Escape from NY

I’ve got an OG theatrical print poster from Escape in my office

[little socket]

stop trying to make that a thing

[cerulean elk]

Gonna play some more LoD tonight. See how far I can get

[rare flint]

sorry guys, I repost this: I didn't found the answer in docs or fixed files... Currently I'm using an original N64 controller via SNAC with Transfer Pack to play Castlevania and I've succesfully saved the game; this save will be available only on the Transfer pack or also on MiSTer Sd? Thanks!

[zinc dew]

Only on the transfer pak but you could in theory switch your controller to the controller pak option in the core menu and then save again

[rare flint]

ok but I have also to disconnect the controller?

[mossy vector]

But we only have LOD=0, which is the nearest that near textures can be.

[zinc dew]

I don't think you'd need to. Just need another controller plugged in via USB or wireless.

and reset controller assignment in the core menu so that the USB/wireless controller is now player 1

[rare flint]

ok, understood, many thanks!

[zinc dew]

yeah! I hope that works. I haven't tried it but in theory it should work.

[orchid nimbus]

yes? 🙂

[cold pollen]

Nevermind it got taken care of lol

[stone pilot]

Okay, sure, but here's the thing:

[oblique crow]

god we are terrible about tangential topics. I'm here for it, just recognizing it.

[ripe cargo]

My old SNAC adapter from Mister Addons works with the N64 core.

[cerulean elk]

This poster makes that poster look boring

[oblique remnant]

Are you a carpenter?

[dreamy ridge]

paper mario boys, let's gooooooooooooooooooooo

[terse canyon]

makes me want to blow the dust of my video disc version and watch it

[cerulean elk]

Ooh not a common format for it

[mossy vector]

Laser Disc

[terse canyon]

It’s seen better days

[native mesa]

Escape from LA

[cerulean elk]

Oh man that’s a gem

[native mesa]

Do you have a THX sound system

[woeful grove]

why did they move the statue of liberty's head to the middle of manhatten

that must have taken some serious work

[terse canyon]

nope

[native mesa]

For the cool movie poster photo

[cerulean elk]

It was the apes. They moved it

[woeful grove]

ahh of course

liberty illuminating the world

[trim seal]

https://tenor.com/view/statue-of-liberty-new-york-lady-liberty-liberty-ghostbusters2-gif-18409330

[native mesa]

Ghostbusters 2 sucked

[orchid nimbus]

your vacuum sucked harder

[dense wagon]

im a bit confused about the SNAX thing because yeah... is it usb? goes into the USB marked (NOT USB) on the analogue hat. but these have HDMI? i guess its like a bit of a dazy chain

[oblique crow]

I'll probably be a wee bit too busy tomorrow to say it (maybe) but I figure I'll say it now anyways, since it's Thanksgiving in the US tomorrow, if you're not from here, it's customary to give thanks especially if it involves those around you.

*Guys and gals, gathered round,
amongst the group, amongst the crowd
This community should be oh, so proud.

I wish you well, and dare I say
These friends, I've found, without delay
Have warmed my heart, a shining ray.

Though varied our paths, we've walked them through
My path, and yours, have led us true.
And if you'll have me, aboard this crew

I suppose I just want to say...
I'm thankful, for you. :)*

---

Feeling sappy, and the older I get the more I realize how important it is to keep those who share your passions close to heart.

I KNOW THAT WAS LAME

[fair stump]

My understanding is they use the USB and hdmi connector formats but they are doing something entirely different

[fair stump]

https://youtu.be/Tf6PLozv36s?si=FZKiZJtrGvc0IBwd

This gives a bit of a breakdown I believe

[dense wagon]

oh nice thanks!

[cerulean elk]

Hey I know that guy!

[fair stump]

He's pretty cool but I've heard not so nice things about his mom

[oblique crow]

I just subbed to him, but I think he's pretty swell

🙂

[elfin depot]

Yeah it's modern cherry esoterica ninja or something?

[cerulean elk]

Video Cherry Pixelterica

[trim seal]

I have this problem where I like things. It's a sickness.

[elfin depot]

that does have a better ring to it

[prisma ivy]

Pixel erotica

Ugh I still haven't been arsed to transfer the rest of the ROMs over to the MiSTer

I remember as a kid having a much higher tolerance for meh games

I rented Sub Zero Mythologies and thought it was fine

Rented it and brought to my friends house who had the 64. I didn't own the system

[latent hatch]

Yeah, that's fun about being a kid. I loved the heck out of the Cruis'n games and NBA Hangtime.

[quaint copper]

https://handheldlegend.com/products/2-port-controller-adapter-for-n64-controller-hyperkin does anyone know if this hyperkin will work on the mister? am considering buying it...

[delicate hearth]

Can anyone with the N64 SNAX adapter test if Mario Artist Talent Studio supports the Game Boy Camera through the Transfer Pak?

[wraith estuary]

I lowkey think that Excitebike 64 is one of toughest N64 games to emulate properly in software. I've never had any software emulator play it properly, especially the sound. Even with Ares and low level emus... The timing is always glitching, speeding up and slowing down, and the music is always distorting and sounds like crap in gameplay and in the menus. This core seems to play it perfectly.

[weary palm]

Micro Machines 64 Turbo works now! Some graphical issues and slowdowns, but it's totally playable!

[ocean lily]

same goes for tetrisphere (unless somethings changed since last i tried)

core seems to run it perfectly- just need a way to bind the reset button for it to be 100% since the vortex code requires holding the reset button

[weary palm]

a game that utilizes the reset button? facinating. 🙂

xD

[quaint rune]

DAM!

[wraith estuary]

that's pretty cool. had no idea

[weary palm]

It's sooooo sloooow 😄

11 minutes from pressing start to start of intro.

but it's beautiful

[languid dune]

The persistence paid off!

[mossy needle]

I hear the music just by looking at the picture

[weary palm]

wonder if it'll ever reach bond?

[eternal island]

... goldeneye 0.2 fps speedrun?

goldeneye but on nes speedrun!

[languid dune]

Speedrun? I think you mean speedfun! 🎉

[weary palm]

speedbump?

[solemn kayak]

Is Castlevania booting?

[brisk edge]

it should be now

[zenith orchid]

never seen that before. I just recently bought the raphnet version, but this one looks so much cooler, and it's way cheaper too

[mortal panther]

Sorry to bother, but would you mind sharing the patch you compiled from that particular branch?

[eternal ravine]

Why does Castlevania 64 require you to press a button to pick up items

Seems better than Earthworm Jim 64, at least

maybe

[cerulean elk]

That is an odd design choice

Just let me run over stuff

[eternal ravine]

Odd decisions were made

[weary palm]

Press buttons to pick up? What is this? Maniac Mansion?

[prisma ivy]

I'd rather type "pick up hamster" than click my mouse button

[weary palm]

Didn't King's Quest do it like that? 🙂

[prisma ivy]

awh yeah 😎

I love me some parser

[zenith orchid]

anyone know if there's a widescreen patch for the DD version of F-Zero X?

[oblique crow]

Early 3D was the wild west, nothing was really figured out for awhile.

[zinc dew]

You’d be surprised by how many decisions are made because “well, that other game did it that way” 🤣

[weary palm]

Not that I'm aware of.

[quaint copper]

I bit the bullet and bought two for $15 USD. Will report back when tested (but only have one real controller to test with lol)

[mortal panther]

😉

The horror!

[quaint copper]

I guess, if it's compatible with the OLED Switch, it must work like the NSO Controller does

[quaint copper]

@ this

[zinc dew]

I love that quote so much. What an absolute catastrophe of a review. 🤣

[mortal panther]

It never fails to make me giggle. 😄

...only every game uses that now. 🤣

[velvet nexus]

never seen that before

that's fantastic

I wonder why that was so difficult to pick up...

[viral portal]

To be fair, it wasn't a bad take back in the day when twin stick controls were still in their infancy. It just didn't hold up. At all.

[velvet nexus]

mouse and keyboard had been

[oblique crow]

Yup! Hahaha

[velvet nexus]

they just implemented mouse movement on the right stick

[prisma ivy]

As someone who does do FPS, dual analog sticks is very strange to me

[velvet nexus]

seems intuitive to me

[mortal panther]

The author was probably wondering "Why can't every game control like the GameCube version of Metroid Prime?!" 😏

[viral portal]

I believe a lot of FPS games still used the dpad for moving forward and turning left/right back then.

[prisma ivy]

That should read DOESN'T DO, not do

[velvet nexus]

just treat the right stick as a mouse

[zinc dew]

THAT’S ME, YEAAAAAH

[velvet nexus]

a cool setup is having look as a clock face but it doesn't have the up and down

[vapid hawk]

yeah when that was written fps controls hadn't been standardized at all

tbh it took until like, Halo really before everyone settled down and agreed how they should be

[velvet nexus]

its wild to think about

[languid dune]

It took me awhile before I adopted the dual analog setup for first-person games.

[velvet nexus]

even in the pc world wasd wasn't standardized THAT early on

[vapid hawk]

dreamcast didn't even have two analog sticks! everything was chaos back then 😄

[zinc dew]

remember when pac land used buttons to run left or right and then Mario came along and was like “use a joystick or dpad you dummies”

[velvet nexus]

YES

I had that game on turbo grafx

[languid dune]

I played so much Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, that their default setups were so engrained into how I expected first person games to control.

[velvet nexus]

and 1 and 2 were left and right

most effed up controls

[vapid hawk]

goldeneye is definitely why i play everything with inverted look

[velvet nexus]

but I had a turbo grafx, so it was one of 3 games I had available at the time...

pac land was weird

[languid dune]

The first game that finally got me to give dual analog a shot was ironically Oblivion.

[velvet nexus]

I'm actually playing through that right now for the first time

[languid dune]

After that game, I was completely in the dual analog camp going forward.

[vapid hawk]

mine was timesplitters

although that has extremely strong auto-aim its not really like a modern shooter

[languid dune]

I still can't do keyboard and mouse for games. It feels so wrong to me. Not to mention my arthritis says nope to that.

[velvet nexus]

I get more cramping with controllers

we're old 😐

[vapid hawk]

mouse and keyboard feels too easy for me

like i can never shake the feeling i'm just clicking on heads

[rich warren]

I'm inverted Y-Axis for life thanks to the N64

[vapid hawk]

i used to play counterstrike pretty seriously

[mortal panther]

It's strange. As far as FPSes go, I basically cut my teeth on GLQuake shortly after I built my first Windows PC with dual Voodoo2 12MB cards running in SLI in the mid-'90s. I quickly became an FPS junkie, getting my fix on all the classics... the pinnacle for me being Starsiege Tribes and Unreal Tournament 2003/4.
Fast forward several years later, and I got pressured by several of my coworkers who were really into playing Battlefield: Bad Company 2 with each other... all on the PS3, of all things. An FPS... on a console? I had firmly established myself as a mouse/keyboard elitist by that point. But, I caved and decided to give it a try.
Almost two solid weeks of trying to 'git gud' on a FPS with a damn DualShock 3, cussing and spitting, beyond frustrated that I just didn't 'get it'.
Then, it suddenly started happening, and I was really surprised by how well I was taking to it and getting much better... and actually enjoying it. I started buying more and more FPS titles for the PS3 (which continued on to the PS4 and PS5).

But, the oddest thing happened when I decided to get the PC version of Dying Light to play with some other coworkers. As it was downloading, I found myself trying to remember what the last FPS was I had played on PC, and I couldn't remember. When the game finished installing and I saw the title screen, I instinctively reached for a game pad... and then it hit me. "Wait... what the hell am I doing? I'm on PC."
I tried to play with mouse/keyboard, and it felt so alien to me by that point. That was a very odd sensation.

[vapid hawk]

yeah for me that game was probably cod2

[velvet nexus]

wow...

[mortal panther]

So, I ended up playing against them on the PC with a Xbox Elite controller. 😄

[vapid hawk]

i played it on pc and then afterward i played it on console and i actually found it much more fun on console because i couldn't just snipe everyone from ten miles away. forced me to use movement and grenades etc much more creatively

[velvet nexus]

I never quite strayed like that

[mortal panther]

I sometimes wish I hadn't.

It was depressing.

[velvet nexus]

I did get away from mouse and keyboard for elderscrolls games

but I've never attempted FPS with a controller

[vapid hawk]

on pc you can usually aim so well you can basically just ignore every other mechanic the game designers tried to put in and lean on your aiming skills entirely

[velvet nexus]

maybe doom on the SNES

[velvet nexus]

quake 3 begs to differ

[mortal panther]

I remember many years ago, friends of mine trying to get me to play local multiplayer Halo with them on the original Xbox. I tried and tried, but just couldn't do it.

[weary palm]

Wave Race 64 [Rumble Edition] has ghost support! Never knew that.

[mortal panther]

So I was completely certain back then that I would never attempt to play another FPS on a console ever again. Boy, was I wrong. 😄

[velvet nexus]

halo is a fine game...

[languid dune]

Hopefully the odd save type/no boot issue will get fixed soon! Nice that there's a workaround to play it, but still!

[vapid hawk]

trying to learn dual analog in a multiplayer enviroment is always going to suck heh

[vapid hawk]

well yeah but thats multiplayer. sorry i was mainly referring to sp games

[mortal panther]

Once I got the Master Chief Collection, I was like "So this is what I was missing out on. This is fun!"

[zealous hull]

I've got a capture card coming in Friday, just thought it would be fun to get one.

I noticed some graphical issues with Paper Mario. Maybe I can start throwing up side-by-sides of the core vs original hardware.

[cerulean elk]

Nice. What did you pick?

I’m thinking of changing mine out soon

[zinc dew]

Make sure to use the Sugma drivers to use with MiSTer as it strips out CIC voltage irregularities from the HDMI.

[cerulean elk]

You never stop

[zealous hull]

I wanted something that would slot into a PCI-e slot, so I went with an AVerMedia card. Reviews seem nice and it's half off right now?

[zealous hull]

This is really helpful info! I'll look into it! Thank you!

EDIT: I'm a fucking dumbass.

[cerulean elk]

Yeah I saw that. A good deal

[zinc dew]

Do you know what it is?

[zealous hull]

I'm sick so I'm missing out on all of the Thanksgiving festivities this year. I may have Paper Mario footage if you end up wanting it, not trying to take Andy D.'s place. 🙂

Really, any games you may want captured I can help out with if you'd like.

...if I can get everything setup correctly at least.

[orchid nimbus]

someone who uses the spreadsheet doesn't understand how filters work

FFS

[zealous hull]

I do not. 🙂

But I know how to Google/Search lol

[zinc dew]

SUGMA N64 CARTS 😂🤣

[zealous hull]

...

I'm more angry at myself than you.

[zinc dew]

Sorry I have a terrible illness

I am doomed to make shit dad jokes

[zealous hull]

And I'm doomed to walk right into them. 🙂

[zinc dew]

Since you’re in the spreadsheet do you mind adding the new homebrew game Mind Goblin

[zealous hull]

robby no

[zinc dew]

….. he’s too crafty for my jokes 👀

[cerulean elk]

He’s gone beyond a 12 year olds maturity lol

[zealous hull]

Rare, for this server.

[cerulean elk]

I think I’m gonna grab that MK 2 Elgato 4K60 HDR card soon

[orchid nimbus]

@zinc dew is it in the database?

[zealous hull]

vampier no

[orchid nimbus]

is it playable?

[cerulean elk]

But I don’t want to change the entire channel to 4K. The drive budget would be too high

[zealous hull]

don't take the bait

[zinc dew]

DO YOU MIND GOBLIN DEEZ CORES

[zinc dew]

lmaaaao

[zenith orchid]

Test it with rumble too if you can 👍

[eternal ravine]

OMG Killer Instinct Gold is so fugly

[fair stump]

Now filter the whole sheet to just that record

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/full-meta-jacket-angry-gif-11948262

@zinc dew wtf is your major malfunction?

[eternal ravine]

Maybe some CRT magic would help

[zenith orchid]

That would be perfection is such a patch existed. Especially if the patch can enable dedither 👍

[zinc dew]

I need friends I think lol

[orchid nimbus]

f-cking dork

[weary beacon]

Don't do it. It's a trap!

[zenith orchid]

that's what it was made for 😄

[zealous hull]

it's sweet that you censored the word f-ck though

[fair stump]

F-ck q-est 64

[cerulean elk]

Wait we can’t say fuck?

[zealous hull]

I mean, if you want to be polite...

[cerulean elk]

Phew. I thought you’d taken my only means of expressing myself away 😂

Nah I don’t swear around here. But I thought it auto censored

[zealous hull]

If you push it far enough I bet it does.

But I'm not going to play that game of chicken.

[fair stump]

@cerulean elk all day https://youtu.be/JBqdNhY3pf0?si=jo0zjvnLHVxp36mY

[orchid nimbus]

I would like to buy a vowel.... U!!!

[eternal ravine]

Conker doesn't have f-bombs, right? Do they use censored c-word?

In the UK sense

I do remember the GMP saying "twat"

[zinc dew]

Conker N64 is less censored than the Xbox version

[cerulean elk]

Conker is like @zinc dew edgy but with a 90s past date sense of humor

[eternal ravine]

The UK slang helps keep it funny tho

[zinc dew]

🤣💯

[warped cobalt]

You can turn the auto-aim off in each player profile separately in TimeSplitters. Then it gets very hard 🙂

[latent hatch]

Friend says there is a recent regression in Chameleon Twist. Crashes now.

[zinc dew]

Ohh where at

[languid dune]

That's hearsay!

[inner plume]

Alright, I hit a reproduceable lockup in Paper Mario. Can't see the full error due to overscan on my CRT, but it occurs during the Buzzar fight during Chapter 2 when Buzzar reaches into his feathers the second time for an attack

The error data Paper Mario normally shows when an error occurs does not show up, the game just freezes

[languid dune]

Can you just take a screenshot of it?

[inner plume]

Yeah

[languid dune]

Sorry, I meant a screenshot using the MiSTer, so the overscan isn't an issue.

[inner plume]

Oh, actually not sure how to do that, never done it

[languid dune]

"Press and hold the Win Key and the Left Shift Key then press the PrtScrn key (⌘ + F13)" with a keyboard plugged.

[inner plume]

Ah, I need a keyboard

Won't be able to do that until tomorrow, in-laws are sleeping in the basement where the rest of my stuff is

[languid dune]

The dreaded in-laws strike again!

[inner plume]

And I'd probably just hook this up to the HD TV and reproduce it then and take a pic

Lol right?

[languid dune]

Once you have the full error code with the screen capture, make sure to @ Robert on it.

Reproducable errors are the best kinds for development!

[inner plume]

Indeed they are

I hate when I have to solve a problem I can't reproduce reliably, feels like taking potshots at bugs sometimes

Well since I'm being a good sport and waiting till tomorrow to reproduce this, guess I'll play some OOT instead

[wanton sun]

that's fine, there is no error code, just the usual PI error that comes up already when you start a game, didn't yet check why. Could be some DD access or so

so the game freezes without error. Can you say if sound/music is still running?

If it plays some broken music for a while, then stops, it would be the same crash as that from the intro

[hollow badger]

oh hey, mr robert

does the yc n64 core support composite?

i am just getting black and white image

[wanton sun]

you probably want the build from MikeS

[hollow badger]

i am using N64YCBeta_20231121.rbf

but i just get black and white image

[wanton sun]

that should be fine. If there is any issue with it, maybe MikeS knows more, i don't, sorry

[hollow badger]

ok thank you

well i don't know what happened but it is working now. oh this is incredible.

[wanton sun]

could it be PAL/NTSC?

maybe you tried a game from the wrong region for your CRT? sorry, i know nothing about analog, just heard that this can be a problem

[hollow badger]

ive really no idea. Star Fox was black and white just a few days ago, but this core looks like it was from yesterday and this is my first time trying it out so maybe it had something to do with the other core?

water under the bridge now. man this is great.

Composite on a crappy 13" CRT. 100% happy now.

[latent galleon]

hey that isn't a truck

[stuck summit]

looks damn good

64 already had pretty good composite but MiSTer composite looks even better

[inner plume]

No sound, the game totally halts

[odd vector]

Will try Direct Video today, to see if that green mess is also happening there. 🙂

[empty cliff]

TLB is the True Last Boss

[zenith orchid]

who needs TLB when you have pokemon

[empty cliff]

joanna dark

[lament escarp]

How'd you get green to run in stadium? Mine wouldn't load. 😦

[zenith orchid]

it only works with stadium 2

not sure why, but apparently that's how it is on real hardware too

[lament escarp]

I have a romhack of my own which also doesn't work on stadium 1, but I'll try it in stadium 2 then. It also has the color sprites of gen2 in it, so maybe it won't work until the mappers for those games are in.

[native mesa]

I'm thankful for FPGA technology, this open source community and Robert the techno-wizard

[fair stump]

Check out Wizzo's remote script. Pretty much removes any need for a keyboard and lets you take and share screenshots super easy

[quaint copper]

https://github.com/mysterypaint/MiSTer-N64-Save-Utility CPak/TPak saves can now be properly dumped from the Mister N64 save file!

With that, this save tool should now be fully-functional and complete, at least until any future core updates change the save structure 👍

[chrome quest]

This is so useful. Really do need to experiment next time I'm on the core.
Thank you so much for the work!

[native mesa]

This will come in handy when @weary palm gets the new save stuff running

[mortal panther]

#nopressure

[weary palm]

Well it's pretty much done

[vapid hawk]

awesome! thanks for working on this

if you want a stretch goal you could try to make a sort of ascii UI for it on the mister, similar to some other scripts like the ini editor

[cerulean elk]

Happy thanksgiving everyone! And happy Thursday to the non-American continent. Have a side of bomb with your Turkey this year!

[silent marten]

Happy Thanksgiving Bro

[fallen sparrow]

I always wondered what it stood for. Thank you

[empty cliff]

haha

[dense wagon]

Bah... Thanksgiving was in October 😉

[azure thunder]

Happy regular Thursday, @dense wagon

[cerulean elk]

Thanksgiving Lead Belly

That feeling when you ate too much

[dense wagon]

haha 😄

[fallen sparrow]

As a youngster, I used to spend the Xmas holiday time around an Irish friends. We definitely experienced the lead belly

A lot of eating.

Thanksgiving means nothing in the UK

[dreamy ridge]

does robert have a good feeling that he can fix the remaining TLB challenges he described in this week's patreon post?

[latent hatch]

I don't know where in Chameleon Twist it was crashing. Will get to see it on Saturday. Legit hoping my MiSTer isn't having hardware issues.

[cerulean elk]

he really hasn't indicated otherwise

[fair stump]

@hollow rune is the resident Chameleon Twist expert

[zinc dew]

Absolutely guaranteed he will fix it. It’s not a matter of if but when.

[cerulean elk]

just not today. I want my turkey

[odd vector]

TURDUCKEN

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew takes his turkey with a six pack of Alamo

TurkBriskStar...an open can of Lone Star with a brisket wrapped around it shoved into the cavity of a turkey

[safe robin]

i hope for today

when its done i want to try it 😄

there is no thanks giving in Germany so a Thanks TLB would be great 😛

[oblique remnant]

A thanks for giving TLB

[mortal panther]

After dinner, I'm going to get a head start on setting up the Festivus Pole.

[modest helm]

Haven't gotten around till messing around with the core until now bc of work, but the new core is brilliant! My only suggestion is, is it possible to add an option for crop vertical to 10. I'm using crop vertical 8 which is a good default, and 12 is a bit too zoomed in for my taste on most games and 10 would be a good set it and forget it setting

[zinc dew]

lol I wish, at first I thought you meant Alamo as in fireworks

[cerulean elk]

haha no just another hamfisted King of the Hill reference

[modest helm]

Anyone else getting a weird error screen when booting Duck Dodgers on the latest core?

[hollow rune]

I've had it happen in 3 unrelated locations throughout the game

[hollow rune]

Across many times playing

[mortal panther]

Robby isn't picky about where his beer comes from.

[zinc dew]

I’ve had Duff beer plenty of times, it’s true

[languid ore]

I love me some Goemon but playing it recently its rough. The frame rate is hard to stomach on a modern screen. I have a feeling a lot of the N64 library is going to be like this :-/. Mario 64 wasn't bad though

[zinc dew]

You are weak! You need more training! Play Hybrid Heaven in high resolution mode for 20 hours.

You will be unstoppable afterwards.

💪👍

[languid ore]

Is that how I defeat motion sickness and the headaches induced from low, variable FPS? Lol

[zinc dew]

Yes, there is no lower framerate.

[languid ore]

It's a myth perpetrated by big framerate

Get you to buy more frames

[knotty zealot]

more frames wouldn't help doom eternal

that game would need a big overhaul

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-dingo-disneyland-paris-disneyland-dlp-gif-22955949

[zinc dew]

how bout you overhaul deez theme park rides

[daring meteor]

Densha de go is best game

[knotty zealot]

that sounds made up

[mild ether]

I kinda want one of those controllers and watches now that I have seen it.

The watch seems a little bit harder to track down.

[zinc dew]

Watches are pricey but the controller is an absolute must

[zinc dew]

You should Densha de go outta town

[mild ether]

I don't think I could live without the watch if I got the controller. Otherwise it just kinda looks like a sad cup holder on the controller.

[zinc dew]

THIS IS MY PAIN

[hollow badger]

I just want to express how grateful I am that playing this game in poopy composite on my poopy 13" CRT is possible on my MiSTer. I don't have much space to work with, so having the N64 be possible is a dream. Thank you Robert and Mike for making this possible, and thanks to everyone here for answering my dumb questions. Very appreciative of Robert, and of this community.

Happy Thanksgiving!

[knotty zealot]

THANK YOU JESUS THANK YOU LORD

PRAISE

[orchid nimbus]

Literally less than 1 mile from where I am now

[knotty zealot]

can you fix it? doom eternal i mean

[orchid nimbus]

I’ll doom you before I doom that

[celest sierra]

well now, the american continent has plenty of countries just enjoying a nice thursday instead of thanksgiving, in fact, I think even the majority of the population in the american continent isn't in a country that celebrates thanksgiving
that said, happy thanksgiving for people living in the country that celebrates thanksgiving!

been enjoying mario golf

[river shale]

Has anyone tried patches for goldeneye - this one is an 8mb ram mod - http://n64vault.com/ge-misc:8-meg-goldeneye

Maybe uses less tlb?

I have some friends coming over that want to play multiplayer

[cold pollen]

Now with less TLB™

[knotty zealot]

lolol

[mossy vector]

Some of us will have plenty Turkey Leftovers on Buns

[zinc dawn]

It's most likely still broken but give it a whirl

[orchid nimbus]

oh boy...... oh boy .... oh boy... oh boy..... #test-builds

is my favorite channel

[hollow badger]

man. you got me excited

[desert crow]

it's Thanksgiving here so I think it's appropriate to give some thanks. (going to drop a few long posts today but break them up)

First big THANKS to FPGAzumSpas, You really amazed us all with N64.
He has made it really exciting and fun the last few years doing the core development out in the open.

It's been great to see everyone get to participate and test all through the dev cycle and work together towards a common goal.
I doubt he could do it without all the testers testing every game, and I'm sure the people cheering him on helps keep him motivated, So thanks to everyone that's been helping out.
He helped me with the N64 SNAC code and it was a lot of fun to get to work with him on that and do my small part. (he's a great guy!)

[orchid nimbus]

I am old enough to remember this:

btw the core is 100 days old since we could play the 1st game

[oblique crow]

awesome

[orchid nimbus]

this is how it looks over time

[oblique crow]

we live in exciting times

[desert crow]

I got a N64 for xmas one year. I only had a few games but loved Mario 64 and got all the stars and unlocked the secret thing.
I got to play alot of the early games and experience multiplayer and play with a bunch of friends which I thought was pretty cool bitd.
It's been awesome checking out the stuff I missed and playing old favorites on the the new N64 core.
I wanted to try make it possible to experience that again for everyone.
Someone told me the other day that they're playing with their childhood n64 controller, how cool is that? That kind of validated the effort for me. Will we be playing n64 by christmas?

[orchid nimbus]

I am sad to admit that I don't have the patience anymore to even go beyond the 1st Bowser

but I will be finishing Paper Mario after I got some Switch games squared away

[celest sierra]

I wonder why paper mario was never re-ported

[oblique crow]

something something money

[mild ether]

I like money.

[cold pollen]

Nintendo fans are great. Half of them are all "stop selling us the same games we want new shit" and the other half are all "why haven't you ported every game from every console ever waaaahhh"

I'm kind of firmly planted in both groups simultaneously lol

GIVE US ALL THE GAMES

[orchid nimbus]

"Welcome to Nintendo - I love you"

[mortal panther]

Costindo

...co

[wanton sun]

Thank you so much! Was a lot of fun 🙂

I really didn't thought we could get Stadium working so quick, i was so happy when i have seen it boot using my 20 year old green n64 controller with the transfer pak

[desert crow]

Really glad to hear that and I think it's awesome you were using your old stuff too.

[wanton sun]

unfortunatly the transfer pak wasn't reliable in the slot, so i didn't really play with it. The worn out stick wouldn't matter for stadium as it's only using dpad anyway, but if there is a chance i lose my progress...

[chrome quest]

My Childhood Lvl100 Blastoise now safely inside MiSTer thanks you ❤️

[zealous hull]

My capture card comes in tomorrow, I will likely be trying to go for a full (recorded) playthrough soon to capture anything and everything I see that seems off.

[wanton sun]

I finally have 2 capture usb capture devices. The first was a cheap one for 15€ that i have to replug constantly. Now i bought a "NZXT Signal HD60" which is ok so far. Only issues so far: sometimes i have to reboot mister or restart osb. I can live with that. Latency in OBS is low enough to play slow games and image quality is fine

[zealous hull]

I've never even used a capture card before. I just had the thought that it may be fun to record some of the things I play. 🙂 Maybe I can be more useful with it here too.

[wanton sun]

i also learned with it that the audio out of my hdmi modded n64 is really broken, it has horrible extra noises. Thankfully i wouldn't play on it anyway and video is more important for tests

[orchid nimbus]

I got the Elgato HD60S (or something) and a cheap USB stick (usb2 - that works)

[zealous hull]

I got a PCI-e card and and powered HDMI splitter. So I'll just be plugging everything directly into my PC. 🙂

[wanton sun]

bought a AVerMedia Live-Gamer Duo before, it was broken on delivery 😦

[orchid nimbus]

😦 Deutsche Post/TNT 😛

[zealous hull]

That's the brand I went with--it was on sale for me--fingers crossed my post is a little gentler. 🙂

[wanton sun]

not that kind of broken. It worked...kind of. Only 1 of the two inputs worked. After the automatic firmware update none worked anymore

[zealous hull]

Oof. That is less reassuring for me. Haha. Oh well, I'll find out if it's trash tomorrow.

[latent dagger]

That's a shame that happened. Avermedia should honor a warranty for it

[orchid nimbus]

lol - par for some brands

[wanton sun]

the tests for it have all been good, so i probably just got a bad model. Still, didn't want more PCIe after that

[latent dagger]

Avermedia is supposed to be one of the top brands alongside Elgato for the consumer market

[chilly ember]

I've got a elgato pcie card that's worked decent, it's the only capture card I've had so I have nothing to compare it to tho

[fair stump]

Oddly enough I've seen a streamer talk a lot about how many problems they've had with avermedia stuff

[latent dagger]

I think the only real purpose a PCIe capture card can serve is lower latency on the previews, and more options for higher quality captures in regards to bitrates, HDR, etc. (and sometimes better support for more odd resolutions)
Otherwise a USB 3.0+ capture card for normal standard resolutions and up to 60fps is perfectly fine and more affordable usually.

[zealous hull]

I just wanted something internal. To me it seemed--ironically--simpler than dealing with USB cables.

[latent dagger]

same thing goes for literally any brand.
so many people who talk crap about Logitech products because of bad experiences and yet here I am, someone who has been using different cameras, mice, and keyboards over the years of theirs without ever encountering a single issue.

It all means nothing. You get good batches and you get bad batches and you are either fortunate enough to get a good product, or you are just unlucky. Has nothing to do with the brand because if it did, far more people would have issues, and the reputation of the brand would have crumbled by now and they wouldn't even be considered an option and have any right charging what they charge for their products.

[oblique crow]

Unironically, I think in terms of quality, Logitech, Razer, Steelseries, any of those major brands have hit a balance of quality and cost that no other boutique brand can even come close to.

And now that those brands are listening to the enthusiasts of those communities as well?

They're making decent stuff

Am I going to give up my 900$ keyboard for a logitech? No. But I'd recommend one.

[oblique remnant]

My Pcie capture card only works if i dont update the Mobo bios otherwise I get a bluescreen at start 😐 never change a running system I guess

[latent dagger]

does your PCIe capture card have the ability to update firmware on the card itself? that can cause that to happen with BIOS updates if there's a needed firmware update

[chilly ember]

I like logitech mice designs but the switches they use wear out faster than they should and you get the infamous double click issue. I've had better luck with razer

[oblique crow]

If you're BSODing due to a PCIe device, its almost always driver related

Razer's optical switches are pretty dang good.

[latent dagger]

but there's also no need for a BIOS update unless there's something in said BIOS update you feel you need such as a fix to a problem you had or the improvement of a featureset

[vapid hawk]

i had to replace all the switches on my logitech mice, kind of sucks they don't just ship them with good ones

it'd cost like 50c extra

[oblique crow]

50c in a quantity of thousands or tens of thousands is a lot of money

operating costs can limit how much budget can go into a product, its complicated.

[orchid nimbus]

then make them $1 more expensive

[oblique crow]

Eh, but you have to have enough money and reserve AND what if it flops?

or what if the gains aren't any better?

[latent dagger]

I currently use the G604 after upgrading from the G602. Both those mice have had zero issues and not needed replacement anything so far.

[oblique crow]

Believe me, they've asked those questions already.

[orchid nimbus]

logitech has a reputation of good stuff

[odd vector]

@wanton sun @oblique crow it was really the analog io board that has not shown the colours correctly. DirectVideo looks flawless

[oblique crow]

AMAZING!

I'm so glad to hear!

[latent dagger]

Can't wait to play the South Park game on this core

[orchid nimbus]

I rather pay for quality instead of chinese shovelware that ends up in the trash within a week

[odd vector]

But I cannot confirm if the analog io is not working

[orchid nimbus]

you're weird

[latent dagger]

for real tho, I actually enjoyed playing the South Park game back in the day, but specifically only the multiplayer

[oblique crow]

I gotta tell ya Vampier, as someone who's seen how those industries work, everything is chinese shovelware

everything even the high quality stuff

you have to account for yields, how long are those parts going to be in production, how long can they be sourced, are they available to buy consistently, etc

there's a reason every CPU isn't a perfect overclocker

[oblique remnant]

Well security updates would make sense . I should check the newest drivers/bios of the card once then

[odd vector]

My thanks belong to you to help me troubleshoot that damned issue yesterday

[oblique crow]

I'm just glad I COULD help!

[vapid hawk]

at least it's pretty easy to google mousename+replace switches and find a video on youtube these days

[oblique crow]

honestly - give me hotswap sockets on everything over better switches

create a standard companies like cherry, omron, alps, etc all agree on, like a VESA or USB forum

have four or five different standards to account for space, etc (they already ARE almost standarized) and then boom

[cosmic raven]

@weary palm @weary palm

[latent galleon]

@oblique crow dozens of people would thank them!

[odd vector]

as a new directvideo user, is there a simple switch to change from directvideo 1 to directvideo 0 and back?

[vapid hawk]

i make an alternate ini where thats the only difference and toggle to it

[odd vector]

means you toggle it in the main menu?

[vapid hawk]

yeah or there's a way to do it with the buttons on the mister

i can't remember what it is

[odd vector]

that would be fantastic ❤️

[vapid hawk]

i found the controller shortcuts for it:

MiSTer_alt_1.ini    Controller: Back + Left
MiSTer_alt_2.ini    Controller: Back + Up
MiSTer_alt_3.ini    Controller: Back + Down```

[steady basalt]

Mister still changes the ini with controller combos, cancel/back button+ a dpad direction. But now you can use other names.

[odd vector]

perfect, I'm asking because if I would like to change from TV to CRT

[vapid hawk]

i swear there's a way to do it with the misters buttons

i can't find it in any documentation though, maybe it was taken out

it was something like hold USR and tap RST

[steady basalt]

Turn on Holding osd, in case something causes the screen to not show up.

[vapid hawk]

that resets it to all defaults right?

[hollow rune]

I will be streaming Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon on the MiSTer in about an hour.

[lament escarp]

I'm having a really hectic week at work and some panda is just what I needed. Thank you very much. 🙏

[cerulean elk]

Ahh man I’d swing by but I’m in the middle of Turkey related stuff!

[odd vector]

Turducken

[fair stump]

Good luck to everyone when performing the traditional turducken karate chop https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxJeRlFAC8vt2H-xDs5h7wh0giTN4hc5TT?si=mBPROJxCpY54udHa

[mild ether]

Someone else is watching the game.

[desert crow]

I did the thanking part, now for the giving.
Here's my other contribution to the N64 core, this new 4P SNAC board. It's about as small as I can make it. This is a standalone board. N64 uses 3v logic so no need for level shifting.
That also makes the board very simple since it only uses 4 io(one per port). So it should be pretty simple and cheap to make, probably under $10 in parts.

You can use a usb3 extesnion you already have from SNAC and just plug it into User port. It will work with any version of the IO board since it doesn't need the 7th gpio.(so jumper won't matter)
All you have you do is plug controllers into which ever port you want to use on the adapter and turn snac on for that port in the OSD, each port can be independently controlled.
Once that is done it's plug and play, whatever controllers or paks you plug in will just work, no messing with settings.
Rumble, transfer, controller paks all work, as well as weird things like the vru and microphone.
Someone wanted the transfer pak working so I decided to do whatever it took to make that happen as a special thanks to him, the rest was just a bonus 🙂

There's no case yet, we'll have to see what the best solution for that is.
If you want to check it out it's up on my github page https://github.com/blue212/SNAC-N64. It's free and open source like everything else I do for mister.
If not I'm sure other people will spin up their own designs and we know SNAX already works with N64 and there's a SNAX64 coming too.
So support whoever you wish.

No need to thank me, instead what I think would be cool is anyone who reads this post try to thank someone who makes cool stuff that you enjoy.
It doesn't have to be mister peeps either, spread the ❤️ around. Give some thanks to the unsung heroes.
Also tell your loved ones thanks if you don't do that enough when you get a chance.
For those that aren't celebrating have a nice weekend, play some N64 it's pretty great!
Sorry for the long posts.

[modern sleet]

Amazing!!!

Hopefully nobody tries to fit this right on their mister without a small extension 🙂

Great work @desert crow !

[solemn marlin]

What's the mouse support for? Starcraft?

[mild ether]

I think the mouse support in the core is just for using a mouse for the analog stick. There is a mouse for N64 for Mario Artist.

[plush summit]

Amazing

[chrome quest]

SNAC + Densha De Go controller.... How to justify the expense 😄

That board with 4 player looks amazing. Will keep an eye for any builds, not something I'd be able for personally

[hollow rune]

https://www.twitch.tv/rgw_panda
It is Tender Lovin Bear time! We are playing Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, this time on the MiSTer N64 core.

[zealous hull]

I don't know you but you seem cool as hell. Thanks for all of your work.

[minor fog]

I’m guessing that since there is no logic it could be feasible to wire up a n64 extension lead to a usb3A plug and have a single controller snac adapter?

[hazy arch]

When loading a rom, I get no loading bar on screen on my CRT, is that expected behavior right now?

[chilly ember]

Yes

[cerulean elk]

I don’t have twitch on my phone. Someone go tell panda I said hey

[hollow rune]

I see your hey! Thank you

We are just about to fight giant robots

[cerulean elk]

It’s not thanksgiving if there isn’t a fight 😂

[cold pollen]

👀

[hollow rune]

There have been multiples in this game. I was just told by by Benkei not to tell anyone I defeated him

[cerulean elk]

Haha I’ll keep it quiet

[empty cliff]

@desert crow that is sick

thankyou for your services to mankind

[elfin depot]

<Next VGE Video> "And rgw_panda absolutely destroyed Benkei!

[empty cliff]

do controller packs work through snac?

rumble, memory cards?

and moreover... gb cartridges??

[cerulean elk]

I gotta mention Panda’s streams again. Juice up the numbers. First professional panda streamer

[empty cliff]

oh damn I should learn to read

thankyou

microphone also reminds me I should grab the new core and my rode mic and see if I can get hey you pikachu working

[elfin depot]

No worries, I often do that when I see something so exciting. I'd love to build this, so you just order the PCB, then get the parts together and go soldering?

[empty cliff]

I don't have a keyboard on me though so my suspicion is.. no I can't set that up

[desert crow]

if that's a question for me, Yes. I hand soldered that one and am no expert so I know other people can do it too. You could probably get the board populated with most of the parts also.

[worn delta]

Congrats Blue! Really looking forward to being able to use OG controllers and Denshe De Go with the core. Hopefully Nat in the UK has them for sale in the not too distant future 🙂

[elfin depot]

Yeah never ordered a PCB or anything like that. Done plenty of soldering. Thanks again for all your contributions.

[worn delta]

This is more a theoretical question, but would the 64DD keyboard work over SNAC if it were supported in the core?

[desert crow]

untested but think it will work, but who can afford it? 😄

[wet canyon]

Blue said SNAC! I just ordered some on OSH Park.

@desert crow Do you have a recommendation as to where to get the controller ports?

[desert crow]

no, that will be that hardest part to find. good luck

[latent galleon]

ouch

[wet canyon]

That's what I thought. I had looked when the Timville adapter came out and didn't have much luck. Thanks anyway @desert crow I'm looking forward to having a new project!

[chilly ember]

Aliexpress?

[weary palm]

A build of MiSTer main that saves N64 saves to .eep, .sra, .fla, .mpk and .tpk files instead of the usual .sav. Also fixes the endianness of the .mpk and .tpk files. Splits existing .sav files when loading a game that has one. May be buggy.

[chrome quest]

Sacrificial expansion cables? Assuming wiring is reliable, even on cheap 3rd party ones, they're around online. Probably harder to get a neat finish

[languid dune]

For games that support both the controller pak and the rumble pak, is there any way to have it prioritize the rumble pak with the auto detect? I used to always have my OSD set to rumble pak, and would only switch it to controller pak when I played a game that needed it. But now it automatically does that, which messes with games that don't require the controller pak (like racing games that save to the cartridge but support controller paks for ghost data). I just want my rumble!

[weary palm]

I will look into that

Perhaps having it honour the order the tags are written in the database?

[languid dune]

That would be a nice fix, since you could customize it.

The current auto detect is actually really useful for the games that require a controller pak to save. It's just the games where it is only for optional features that I'd prefer to set it to prioritize the rumble pak.

Games like Excitebike 64 for example.

[weary palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-beefcake-gif-13317373

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew how Robby sees Robby

How I see Robby

[vapid moat]

Hopefully I can use this to get some of my saves from Retroarch now (might have to use some other save converter first)

[weary palm]

I don't know what save type retroarch uses

[native mesa]

King

Now we just need it to be able to load roms from the gb directories and saves

[vapid moat]

SRM

Some saves seem to go through when renaming filetype to sav. - but some don't (like OOT or MM)

[weary palm]

MM uses flash saves

[stuck summit]

I guess that's why I couldn't get my OoT everdrive save file to work

while all my other games loaded just fine

[weary palm]

why are srm files so large?

[sharp ermine]

These should work right?
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005003720662628.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

[vapid moat]

Guessing RA's srm. has been made to cover every base of a various N64's save formats + sub-files within

[weary palm]

Yep, seems like it.

2kByte EEPROM + 32kByte SRAM + 128kByte FLASH + 4 x 32kByte CPAK = 290kByte. My guess. 🙂

[weary palm]

LEGO racers sure is hard for being a kid's game

[restive cove]

been playing paper mario 64

everything works so far with concerns towards the TLB

as long as i don't use item in paper mario 64 item: yellow mushroom with lightning bolt on it crashes the TLB thread 4

[weary palm]

Except the intro?

[elfin depot]

You got to try The Lion King (SNES)

[severe rock]

Try most NES games 😂

It took me decades to beat the first batman game from sunsoft, for example

Or how about little nemo

Punch out?ever beat Mike tyson? I sure didn't

Super mario bros 3 gets brutal on the 7th level, never beat it without the flute and it was still brutal

I can go on but I think I made my point

[cold pollen]

I still cant' beat that

[cold pollen]

Mario 3 kills me at the last levels in world 8

the normal ones

[cold pollen]

I found out one day that you can hit the opposite direction after a dodge to "quick dodge" and I beat mike in a decision after that and never tried again lol

[weary palm]

My brother beat SMB3 without flutes when he was 9. Had to keep the console powered on during a night because Nintendo were to cheap to include battery backup.

[lone geyser]

I did a 100% but I used MiSTer's savestates as bookmarks (which Robert implemented so it's on topic)

[weary palm]

He couldn't beat Ninja Gaiden though 😉 I have!

Without savestates

My proudest retro achievement

Wait.. F-zero X Expansion kit has a Rainbow Road?

[desert crow]

love stories like this.

[mossy needle]

I ran into the same freeze spot in Paper Mario when the Buzzard throws feathers

[elfin depot]

I go through SMB3 once a year, without warps or anything, but it's my fav game. I did finally beat batman NES last year, and Gargoyles. But the lion king is hard because disney are dicks:

Whether they've played it or not, most gamers know that The Lion King is hard, but what most people don't know is that the developers made the game extremely difficult on purpose. Disney actually told the developers to make the game so difficult that people wouldn't be able to beat it during a rental period. The game came out when rental stores were immensely popular, and Disney didn't want people to get more than halfway through the game so that the chances of them buying it would be higher. The developers disagreed with Disney's decision, but went back and tweaked the levels to make things more difficult even though the game targeted a younger audience. A few developers would later apologize to fans for how hard the game is.

I bet that backfired and actually decreased the sales

[cold pollen]

That was common, see US Konami games

it's why I get the hacks that restore the japanese codes and difficulties in them lol

[zealous hull]

interesting, watt--the electric party member--has graphical issues with her attacks

[pale granite]

ironic because that's also why Nintendo had that hotline for game tips in the early days

they wanted kids to finish a game so they will buy a new one

I guess rentals were less common then

[weary beacon]

only 4.99 a minute!

[eternal ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-happy-telephone-whoo-hoo-gif-17817476

[severe rock]

I did read that interview. They were purposefully dicks with the difficulty

[severe rock]

Oh yeah. Ninja brutal gaiden. Near impossible to beat without the special 1-shot-kill item

[eternal ravine]

One day I will play the XBOX game(s)

[severe rock]

I also finally beat batman last year after decades of trying

[elfin depot]

I watched that video on speedrunning that game, those guys are hard core in an obsessive way

[random portal]

I left conker's booting and it loads very s l o w l y

you can't see him cutting up the N64 logo or anything

but you can hear it

[elfin depot]

Beat Doom 64 and that's exactly how I felt, FINALLY....

[random portal]

I'm caught up with wrestling games. did you play the complete hack?

or normal doom 64?

[elfin depot]

Switch version.. Wish I'd read about the Demon keys before, then I could have closed the gates on the end level and made it a lot easier.

Took me a lotta runs at the last level.

I'll give it another go on the core, WITH the keys 😉

[floral pawn]

The original F-Zero X has the track but the Expansion Kit added the sick MK64 remix.

[mortal panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meXBzTyaFeg

[cold pollen]

I saw that, is it going to be playable or is it just a tech demo proof of concept thing?

[orchid nimbus]

fake

we need more

impressive achievement on the 18 minute short

[mortal panther]

Proof of concept, looks like.

I love it though. I wish it was playable eventually.

[orchid nimbus]

C&D Nintendo

[vapid moat]

We should start calling the artificial difficulty of that "Rental Difficulty" or something

[pale granite]

isnt that just kaizo nowadays 😅

[hollow rune]

In the case of Ninja Gaiden, yes

[weary palm]

It's very quiet

[daring meteor]

Too quiet

Oh wait the N64 didn't have a fan didn't it

[weary palm]

Phew, I thought discord was broken.

No it did not, just a huge heat sink.

[hollow rune]

We are all busy playing Mario Golf

[weary palm]

Understandable

I need to try it out. Never played it.

[daring meteor]

Yeah so it makes sense, no fan means no noise

[weary palm]

Oh you

Despite what the word says, the N64 had lots of fans.

Camelot? Such a silly place.

[hollow rune]

It's only a model

[weary palm]

I love it when people get my references

[knotty zealot]

here for the tlb... BUT NOT TOO MUCH TLB

[wanton sun]

well, you can try the last build. Is has TLB for GoldenEye, but not too much TLB, so it takes 15 minutes until the title screen

gives you plenty of time to post gifs in discord without having to play the game

[weary palm]

I'm a natural.

[wanton sun]

i thought golf goes the opposite way, so +17 score is actually bad?

[weary palm]

Don't ruin this for me xD

[wanton sun]

The last time i played anything Golf related was when i was 10 with Golf on Gameboy, sorry

[cerulean elk]

Anti-speedrun

[short hill]

golf without a reload state to retry your shots is unplayable

[little socket]

Winners don't use savesates

[daring meteor]

How create savestate irl

[weary palm]

Mike Matei would like to know your location

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-kart-mario-kart-james-bond-pierce-brosnan-gif-5412399

[weary palm]

xD

[cerulean elk]

I am reloading last years save state today...christmas tree time

[thorn flax]

they say golf is a great way to ruin a pleasant walk

I say, mario golf platforming challenge game when?

it would be like mini golf, but somehow even worse

[weary palm]

It doesn't like the data cache

[cerulean elk]

what speeds it running with it off?

[native mesa]

Happy black friday

[wanton sun]

if you force the writeback, it's satisfied. Not sure which is faster