Nintendo 64

[daring meteor]

Haha

[broken cradle]

Lol

[quasi storm]

THERE you are, you dirty no good snake...😆

[daring meteor]

The greatest game

[prisma ivy]

I shouldn't have to manually change the save type right?

Just been playing a lot of Pokemon Snap tonight and I'd hate to lose my progress

[chrome quest]

You shouldn't no. If you've got the database file manually, or run update_all at all recently, it should have it, and automatically get the settings to keep saves.

If your playing homebrew, an odd patch, you might see the "not found in database" message. Something like that. Regular released games are all covered

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun Thanks for looking into Mario 64 water plane issue. Here’s a few comparison screen shots showing the bug:

[prisma ivy]

Thanks!

[chrome quest]

Hopefully you've checked and confirmed the save is there then. Can't imagine it not saving

[mortal panther]

Yeah, I noticed that too. Are you using the UltraSM64 patched version?

[storm parrot]

Is this bug a regression?

[zinc dew]

Oh, probably? I dunno is that the recompiled one?

[mortal panther]

I think so, yeah.

I love the way it runs, so I just kept using it while I'm playing through the game from start to finish. 😄

[zinc dew]

Oh ok so base game is fine and for whatever reason that version of the game makes that issue?

[mortal panther]

But yeah, I did notice that odd behavior last week or so in that level.

Oh, not sure. That's kinda why I asked.

[zinc dew]

Anyone with a vanilla patched version of the game can double check?

[mortal panther]

Someone else reported seeing that same thing with the UltraSM64 patched ROM.

It'll take me a little while to get to that area on the vanilla no-stretchy-face version. No save on it yet.

Just to add to your trouble report, this is what I'm seeing:

[stone pilot]

I have the no-face patch of JP Shindou, but I also have no stars on it 😦

[mortal panther]

Robert: "So... when you all said you tested Super Mario 64, what you really meant was that you just ran around in circles in the front yard of the castle?" 😏

[hollow orbit]

and no face

[hollow orbit]

But that was the commercial!

[rose elbow]

ive got vanilla usa - no face

[stone pilot]

Well, there it is

[mortal panther]

Ahh... well there ya go. 😦

Interesting.

It's been a long time, but I don't think I remember that happening on real hardware.

[rose elbow]

hmmmm

[mortal panther]

Also, were you able to always see the red coins on the bottom of the water from the surface?

They appear very clearly from a distance. Easy to tell exactly where they are without having to swim down and search.

I really need to hook up one of my N64s. 😄

[safe robin]

this must be a regression

i played this level like 3-4 weeks ago on the core and i did not recognize any strange water bugs

[rose elbow]

ive got the song looping around in the background and now im just wondering when the drums are gonna kick in lol. was that a different song

[mortal panther]

It changes up after you've completed some goals, or proceed further.

[rose elbow]

oooooh :O

[weary palm]

It's kicking in when inside the underwater cavern

[mortal panther]

If you go into that underwater tunnel and emerge in that small cave on the other side, you hear the drums, if I remember correctly.

[rose elbow]

i didn't know that

that's sick

ye there they are cool

[weary palm]

A few of the tracks are adaptive like that

[rose elbow]

i dont think i knew that with mario 64 wow, still learning something with this game

[safe robin]

the song in the waterlevel itself is already so good 🙂

[rose elbow]

yus!!

wow theres 3 states i think, piano only on land, strings in water, and then drums in the cave

how did i not know this LOL

banjo makes it super obvious when they do this

alot more subtle here

[loud pebble]

You need to replace a file in the Linux folder. There is a link on Vampier's page.

[main lintel]

Ooh. Which page is that? Sorry

[chrome quest]

How hard is it to get the water visual glitch to occur?
Tried running around, couldn't get any issues.
No face PAL version. Has anyone with the glitch got the means to check on original hardware with the same ROM?

[weary palm]

It's impossible on some versions

[rose elbow]

thats the no face pal version on mister? o.O

[chrome quest]

Is it an issue on the core for sure then? Or just what some patches are doing?
That's PAL yeah

[rose elbow]

ooh, ive got that shotgun mario rom to test on, cos i didnt apply any no-face patch to that LOL

it must be the no face patch i was using!

[mortal panther]

Upon starting that level, just walk along the shore... to the left then look out towards the open water, for example.

[chrome quest]

That's NTSC no face patched. Loaded in, walked left, looked out. Looks good

[rose elbow]

there's a patch out there doing funny business? is that what it is?

[chrome quest]

You had the same with the glitch... NTSC no face. Maybe compare MD5s?

[rose elbow]

i can test the patched rom ive got on original hardware

[chrome quest]

My NTSC no face patched. No visual glitch:
SHA1 9B9F5915FF77F9DA55D417B163110714E915AFF8
MD5 11D0063499242931E4C5C67C46033937

[weary palm]

I don't think sm64 agrees with some microcode used in decomp projects. (Fast3DZEX and others)

[rose elbow]

USA no face patched, with the glitch:
SHA-1: 774ff904bd845093377df64123289adc78bf58eb
MD5: f93900081c4987bc4c01e2361e651385

[weary palm]

https://youtu.be/GVPpsTPoqSg?si=qf551KNUIUf-LvES

Also has glitches related to water. Coincidence?

[chrome quest]

My previous test was using one of the first no face patches, likely the one still on vampier site, but can't be sure.
I just tried again, NTSC ROM, but applied the MarioDefacer.exe.
SHA1 CBE67371FE9E0771EFC8438645E5613DC9D0C8BE
MD5 DFE5BDB410AA47265055EA4A142D30A6
ROM is different, but still no issues.
@rose elbow How did you patch your version do you remember? Is it just no face, or with performance mods or anything?

[rose elbow]

no performance mods or anything, i think it was a download that patch file that got posted in the discord. cos vampire site only had All-Levels unlocked and i wanted vanilla no face, someone posted a direct link in the discord the patch file

but beyond that dont remember specifically which original rom file it was

[mortal panther]

With the US NTSC ROM from the HTGDB and the US No-Face patch in the pins here, I don't have that issue.

Must be due to either the UltraSM64 patch, or something the Mario Defacer utility is doing.

[chrome quest]

Check the ROM you have on PC emulator even, if you don't have an everdrive. Who else found the issue? @zinc dew Can you check what ROM you are getting the issues with?

[mortal panther]

Thinking UltraSM64 ROM is the culprit though.

[rose elbow]

eyyy

good to know it's just the dodgy patch job

[mortal panther]

BTW, all I did was copy my .sav file, rename it, and it worked beautifully to get me straight to that level on the vanilla ROM. 😉

Don't know why I didn't think of that earlier.

[mortal panther]

@wanton sun Not sure if it's a regression, but I've noticed with this build that with anti-alias enabled, there is an additional row of pixels visible on the top and bottom, showing black sections where objects/models touch the screen borders.
With anti-alias disabled, those two lines are cropped.

[hazy arch]

Can roms be zipped ?

[orchid nimbus]

yes

[dusty tusk]

I think so, only .zip though

[hazy arch]

I thought so but none of my zipped roms load but unzipped do

[orchid nimbus]

uze zip not 7zip gz rar whatever

[rose elbow]

@mortal panther #1096015979055697940 message

the black sections on the border is in original hardawre

[hazy arch]

I think its my roms

sucky roms

[modern sleet]

I think were in a good spot when were finding issues that are problems on real hardware 🙂

[zinc dew]

@woeful grove I just want you to know that I named the N64 core “Nintendo N64” so it would match “Nintendo NES”

[woeful grove]

do you want a cookie or something?

[zinc dew]

Yes

[woeful grove]

🥠

[zinc dew]

I thought that would make you angry, damnit

redundant names ftw

[woeful grove]

I didnt name it that

[zinc dew]

why can’t I troll you

[woeful grove]

some external database did

[zinc dew]

This is unfair

[woeful grove]

it's not my job to police the internet

[languid dune]

I can get angry on Kitrinx's behalf. 🤬 🤬

[orchid nimbus]

Because the randomness

[zinc dew]

My SNES core is called Nintendo Super SNES

[orchid nimbus]

Super nes

[round rune]

Anyone experience the 8bitdo n64 modkit disconnecting randomly, without the sync light going out or blinking? We will be playing and the remote just stops responding. Have to switch to Dinput and back to Switch input, it comes back quickly, but it can ruin a competitive match.

[orchid nimbus]

Supreme super super nes SNES

[hazy arch]

is it a huge pain for anyone else getting this core working or am I just super lucky

[worn delta]

Just check the pins, add those two lines to your download .ini file, run update all and you are good to go.

[iron dove]

whats happening siskavard? still the black screen?

[hazy arch]

well i managed to get 1 rom running but no other romsets im trying load

black screen, yes

[iron dove]

get a no-intro set, or check the ones you have against their checksums

[worn delta]

HTGDB Everdrive pack or no intro work fine

I recommend the former as it is better organised

[hazy arch]

Thats what I have, or so I think

[worn delta]

Have you added the lines to your .ini and run update all with BIOS DB enabled?

[hazy arch]

You said check the pins, do I have to alter something on the board?

[worn delta]

Pins of this channel

[iron dove]

ie #1096015979055697940 message

[hazy arch]

oh haha

[worn delta]

Basically do this:
#1096015979055697940 message

[iron dove]

that will make update_all get the latest core and database txt file, and it will already get the correct boot.rom/boot1.rom if the bios DB option is enabled

that's all you need, outside of a good romset

[zinc dew]

You don’t get to decide that

[iron dove]

n64 is all you neeed robby!

[hazy arch]

I'm double checking my ini because I added those lines but it doesn't pull anything when i run update all

[iron dove]

if you already have the latest files it wont get anything

[zinc dew]

ok you win

you’re right

[fair stump]

You don't get to decide that

[rose elbow]

gonna ctrl a delete my SD card except for the N64 core

[zinc dew]

lmao fuk

[hazy arch]

I ran update all & most of the roms are working! (Weirdly I already did this before & ot didn't work) thanks all

[carmine kettle]

can snac and memory works as one is it possible just like ps1?

[broken cradle]

Wdym

[carmine kettle]

i have snac with blueretro receiver cant use memory card

[solid crest]

If you mean save to a virtual/emulated control pak while using a SNAC controller, then no you can not do that. It is possible it will be implemented later but I haven’t heard the devs talk about it

[carmine kettle]

oh ok that what i wanted to know thank you

they should but its up to the dev

cant complain core awesome

[solid crest]

From what I can tell the solution for the PSX was luck that it worked out. It might not be possible for the N64 core

[broken cradle]

If by devs you be robert, he probably will but priority is getting the core finished before adding QoL features that might use up resources

[solid crest]

It was blue1 who figured it out for PSX

[broken cradle]

Blue also implemented snac for n64

With transfer packs etc

That's what got robert in the mood to have emulated transfer paks for Pokémon stadium

[broken cradle]

But this will probably be an end of the road thing

[carmine kettle]

thank for the info

[wanton sun]

you cannot combine rumble and controller pak in one slot. The game tests which one is there and will use it until it's removed

it's the exact same request message both get and by the response, the game decides which one is there

maybe some insane logic for "what-is-the-game-going-to do" could guess by looking at the message content and then switch paks automatically...but as far as i know that doesn't even exist in software emulation where it would be 10 times easier

[wanton sun]

that's normal and confirmed for real hw. the reason is how AA works: it pulls in color from adjacent lines, so if a line is black, it will copy information from above/below

[wanton sun]

not sure if we agree now that is has to do with the patch, but at least my version here cannot reproduce it. I would recommend to wait until TLB is there and then look again with the original vanilla version

[iron dove]

ive not been able to reproduce it using sm64.us.noface.bps from #1096015979055697940 message or shotgun mario. Either before completing the first star (when fog is present in that starting area) or after

does seem to be tied to the UltraSM64, ill try using that patch

[carmine kettle]

virtual/control pak while using a SNAC controller

probably a long shot, blue1 might know the answer

[rose elbow]

i originally posted screenshots of having the fog issue, but later tried another patched rom and it was fixed up with no issue

[iron dove]

do you recall which patch was the one that triggered it?

[wanton sun]

you mean real snac, but empty slot and virtual controller pak? that would be easy

[rose elbow]

i wanna say the one that had the issue was a file that got posted directly into the discord, and not something that was on vampiers site for example. but not sure specifically which patch that was. it was a no-face patch for USA Vanilla SM64, coz i had asking for something that just removed the face intro and didn't have all the doors unlocked

[oblique crow]

I don't mean to butt in - but man, it's kinda cool how much I've learned just from being a fly on the wall here listening to everything

[iron dove]

vamp's site has justZ00t's and yxkalle's patches
justZ00t's were the first ones posted here I'm pretty sure, im using yxkalle's

[carmine kettle]

yes i got blueretro receiver with a snac adapter connect with nso controller

[iron dove]

its a great place to lurk @oblique crow, when I occasionally have an issue with MiSTer in general I can almost always recall it being posted before and a fix/workaround being found 🙂

not to mention all the interesting info on the hardware and game code from Robert and other devs

[rose elbow]

yeah. sometimes i like talking trash and chatting, but even just lurking and reading other conversations and people troubeshooting stuff, u absorb alot of info

[oblique crow]

Listening to Robert is a bonafide treat

[iron dove]

his patreon writeups are always great reads too

[wanton sun]

wait, you use a some adapter to connect the NSO via SNAC? what's even the point?

[oblique crow]

I was thinking the same thing

But I didn't wanna assume

hahaha

It's like doing a weight reduction on a car only to add cement blocks in the trunk

[wanton sun]

i mean, virtual cpak with SNAC could be implemented. it would basically decide for each message type if snac is used or the emulated gamepad. could even do virtual transfer pak then. Virtual rumble is useless of course. But the question is if it's worth it. for cpak i could imagine if someone wants a real controller but not the limits of a real cpak

the biggest question is how to explain that in the OSD, haha

[oblique crow]

There were those toggle paks back in the late 90s. Toggle switch would flip between CPAK and Rumble, and would reset itself on the toggle so you didn't have to replug it

MadCatz made one I think too

Could even have it be bound to a button-combo or just call it Virtual Pak

[wanton sun]

button toggle for rpak/cpak switch we already discussed and i'm totally open to it if someone makes a good implementation. But i can't think of a way to combine that with snac, as snac has no virtual buttons

[oblique crow]

I don't fully understand how SNAC works, so can't offer anything of value on that topic.

[rose elbow]

snac would just have to miss out on the button mapping i tihnk ?

[oblique crow]

Are they sending scancodes or something similar?

reading about it now, nevermind - so its actually taking the native inputs from the controller and communicating them to the core. That's dope.

So for an NES for example its actually looking at the shift register, god this stuff is so awesome. People really are amazing.

[wanton sun]

due to it being native, it has no access to OSD or mapped buttons

[forest jetty]

anyone know how to get Xeno Crisis to work? I get the CIC error and it hangs.

[carmine kettle]

you need to get md5 value over the first 4096 bytes then put it the n64 database

i dont have the game to help out

[wanton sun]

i would assume it's already in the database, but seems it was removed in the current version?

old DB still has it

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_ROM_Database/blob/main/N64-database_old.txt#L3521

[simple olive]

5d005d7973d119e7cb48fab90c241873 ntsc|cic6102 # XenoCrisis

[forest jetty]

Thanks. It's not giving the cic error now, but it's still hanging at the developer logo; with the error overlay I'm getting E0080040.

[carmine kettle]

does not work

soft off works

few reset it will work but hangs

[mighty bone]

Set the save to eeprom16 and turn on the cache writeback, it can get trough te dev logo but hang on fist start menu..

[zenith orchid]

is there a widescreen patch for F-Zero X DD?

[loud pebble]

Its in the pinned messages.

[knotty zealot]

this is the mister community, sir. and these questions you pose forth? have you learned nothing?

have you SEEN the kraken's out there?

[dusty tusk]

Any chance we can get a button to swap between controller pak and rumble like some of those third party paks?

[zenith orchid]

finally got the chance to update. looking forward to playing DKR

[mellow raft]

If only both at the same time were possible...

[wanton sun]

this is a relativly simple task, so anyone who wants it and has basic programming knowledge can do it. But it's very time consuming: you need the button mapping, then need to detect rising edges of buttons, find a solution when OSD setting is not rpak/cpak, modify the OSD setting from button selection, give hint on screen what is currently active, talk with the users that are annoyed because of the hint, ....

the digital/analog switch of the psx core was horrible to do because of all that, so i'm not really motivation to do it currently, but anyone is free to do it in a way everyone is happy with, then i will take a pull request 🙂

[mellow raft]

I expect that it uses the same contacts for the memory and rumble right? So you can't physically crosstalk them...

[dusty tusk]

I was thinking of it in terms of analog, but looks like quite a bit of work, no worries

The only reason I bring it up is that the current system disconnects your controller when you flip between the modes which can be a bit strange for some games

[rose elbow]

it does? what game has that disconnecting?

[dusty tusk]

let me check my logs, I may have misinterpreted what was going on

[rose elbow]

i think ive had the rumble pack not be recognized when i switched to it midgame but wasn't sure if that was something that potentially happened on real hardware/specific to the game (not really had this more recently, not really treating this as an 'issue' or anything)

[dusty tusk]

yeah, many games I'm pretty sure require a reboot to use paks properly

[rose elbow]

ya figured it was along those lines

[dusty tusk]

I usually reboot when it complains about controller pak not being inserted

[wanton sun]

as the core doesn't pause, maybe there should be a time until the pad is really disconnected

so if you just go through the options, it will not change until the osd is closed again

[dusty tusk]

That would be nice, some games trigger other functions when a controller is disconnected

I tested THPS2&3 and Diddy Kong Racing today and one of them auto progressed at a prompt while I was changing my pak

[rose elbow]

oo i might try Diddy kong racing and switch between the 2 and see how it goes

i remember there were some reports of it crashing at the boss races

[dusty tusk]

I think it was Diddy Kong, Rare loves to be fancy when you connect controllers

[rose elbow]

diddy kong cpak is just for ghosts and times?

[dusty tusk]

Yeah

[rose elbow]

oo it's nice seeing DKR and the text is looking nice and proper without the flashing :)

does Adventure use the cpak ?

[dusty tusk]

The TT races might, it's really just for ghosts. I think times are saved to the cart

[rose elbow]

cool cool, curious when i'll bump into it thanks

[zenith orchid]

I'm having so much fun with THPS3, and I usually play with music off, as I listen to my own music

[chrome quest]

San Francisco Rush 2049 has a similar issue. I think Robert, had suggested at that time maybe adding a little pause of no Paks inserted as the toggle was altered. With all the extra options now, that game has new issues.
If it sees the TransferPak at all as you get from ControllerPak to RumblePak, it interprets the TPAK as a broken issue with the Controller Pak

[wanton sun]

this should be solved if the pad type only changes when the OSD is closed

[chrome quest]

With Rush 2049, (and Buck Bumble I think) the pad swap on OSD alone would still have no Rumble detection. Unless there is a brief NoPAK as they switch under the hood?

[odd vector]

If someone is able to implement that, I would suggest to make it a Hotkey combination to switch out those Paks

[waxen bear]

Speaking of paks, curious as to why the OSD has a rumble pak option on the main page but also a “enable rumble” on one of the sub menus

[whole yarrow]

anyone tried to keep 2 unlocked characters in MK Trilogy after reset the game?

maybe i don't get it, only i can unlock via cheat code

[toxic pumice]

If it's supposed to save to controller pak, your save type could be wrong? Have you got the n64-database.txt file in the right place?

[whole yarrow]

yes

i set CPAK to Controller 1

[modern sleet]

Is there a way to copy CPAK saves from a real controller to a virtual controller ?

maybe the best of both worlds if someone wanted to use a real one then just transfer it over?

[daring meteor]

Does the gameshark rom work on the core?

[mortal panther]

I apologize for bothering you with that. For some reason I thought those two lines were cropped from view at some point previously with anti-aliasing enabled.

[daring meteor]

You can transfer through software, but the question is, does that software exist

(Also, would be helpful if somone hacks the users_io poll to split files)

[deft tree]

i got a romhack that just has them unlocked from the get go lol

[whole yarrow]

huh, ok

[deft tree]

when i set up my everdrive earlier this year I found a bunch of those for the 64 fighting games

[whole yarrow]

Alright, now it works 😄

[hollow rune]

I need to play more video games today...

[wanton sun]

it is currently unused, but it tells if the game does use rumble at all. Could be useful for a button switch: if the game doesn't support rumble anyway, the button should not switch to rumble

it's automatically written from the database

[daring meteor]

Also, I just realized the only game that uses Both Tpak saving and cpak is Nushi Tsuri 64

[zinc dew]

Yeah that’s the smart call. Only way to know is an unpatched rom. Thanks for looking into it all the same. You rock!

sorry very late reply lol

[tropic sand]

In case someone finds this useful.. Ie. All tracks and cars including Police Car...

Trainer for Beetle Adventure Racing!
https://www.marcrobledo.com/RomPatcher.js/

Use: Beetle Adventure Racing! (USA) (En,Fr,De).z64

MD5: cf97c336479ddbf1217e4dde89d9d2d3
SHA-1: e5ab4d226c08d22f68a2edcc48870203e67454b8

Apply: Beetle Adventure Racing! (U) (M3) [t1].bps

Creates: Beetle Adventure Racing! (U) (M3) [t1].z64

[daring meteor]

Robotron 64 works now

With text

[vapid hawk]

i think you can fire the game up, load your real save via snac, then switch to virtual cpak and save it back

[wanton sun]

only works if the game does save the whole data

some only update parts, e.g. no file table

i'm not aware of anything that can copy the whole content like e.g. bios can for psx

[daring meteor]

Nushi Zuri looks fine now

[fair stump]

Looking good now

[hot spoke]

Has anybody ever tried starting a N64 game via the favorites script/ an .mgl file and the game does not load the previously saved .sav file and when opening the OSD (big mistake) the seemingly new created .sav file overwrites your savegame? Just happened to me with Banja Kazooie. I'm glad I love this game so replaying half of the game will be a breeze ^^ Need to investigate though if this is always reproducible

[chilly pivot]

What about the intro from wwf no mercy?

[fair stump]

Loading that up next

[daring meteor]

I finished a Polaris Snowcross race if that means anything?

[chilly pivot]

The question is the picture there? Like Aki logo etc in the intro?

[fair stump]

All if the no mercy intro looked good, like nothing was missing

[chilly pivot]

What????

Amazing

[fair stump]

As far as I could tell

[chilly pivot]

And wcw nwo revenge intro?

[wanton sun]

oh no, another wrestling fix?

[toxic pumice]

Another day another core update. 😄

[broken cradle]

Ooooooooo shhhiiiiiit cant wait to get home

[toxic pumice]

Happy to see robotron text now working, good stuff!

[wanton sun]

well, this only fixes games that have programmed the RDP in a weird way, so having wrestling games in there should not be a big surprise 😛

[daring meteor]

Ah no here

[fair stump]

Splash screens looked good, watching a tractor trailer intro

[daring meteor]

I never expected this to be the problem with Beetle haha

[chilly pivot]

Wow….logo and text is there? Crazy

[languid dune]

More Beetle fixes!?

[toxic pumice]

Will test bio freaks when I'm home as well. Out with the kiddies at the moment.

[fair stump]

Looks like pretty much all the remaining wrestling menu stuff has been fixed

[wanton sun]

the way beetle does the fog is outstanding. it's actually a postprocessing filter. They need 2 pass rendering for the world and then later on use the upper z-buffer bits as index for a grayscale color lookup table in another 2 cycle render pass. It's amazing this doesn't drop the performance significantly

[languid dune]

The unexpected fixes are always some of the most fun fixes. Like when Mischief Makers got fixed and nobody even knew about it for like 24 hours after that update went live!

[daring meteor]

Yeah exactly, you would expect the problem with it not to be a pallate mode thing

[wanton sun]

i'm quite sure this effect was not using the official library functions. It's like someone experiemented on how to setup the RDP to do that effect and later on forgot to remove all the not needed steps

[tropic sand]

Who changed the weather to fog... 😂

[wanton sun]

maybe i should really add a fog toggle, sometimes it's not great to have

[daring meteor]

This explains why it was so problematic in emulation for years haha

Are there any outstanding RDP bugs that aren't YUV or LOD related?

[zealous hull]

You spoil us, Robert.

[quick arch]

Tom Clancy texts are fixed

[hot spoke]

Okay, I just confirmed that starting N64 games via an .mgl file will kill your saves immediately. Maybe this is not new knowledge but it is to me and if it's common knowledge I really would have liked to be warned about it 😄

[tropic sand]

I'll check in an emulator but not sure if there is something missing in the lava...

[wanton sun]

yes, some games still have seams at polygon borders in 2 pass mode

[quick arch]

derby Stallion 64 texts are fixed !

[daring meteor]

Ah, like Stadium?

[wanton sun]

not sure. World map in blast corps has it

i tried to fix it today. it worked, but then i had seams in banjo and zelda, so i reverted it 😅

this whole dual pass pipeline is so confusing. E.g. when doing pixel 0, the second pass already uses some parameters from pixel 1

and then pixel 1 first pass is still using some stuff from pixel 0 second pass

[knotty zealot]

i added the lines to the script and downloaded the core and tried a few games. i fired up paper mario and thought maybe this would be nice to play through for the first time on mister. i didn't even see mario exit his house in the intro before the entire screen got filled with error's

[wanton sun]

processing should be like the upper one to be consistent but probably for ressource saving in the chip is like the lower one

[hot spoke]

That's because TLB is still not implemented. The dust of Luigi's walking animation seems to use it.

[knotty zealot]

mario kart runs great. we can live off that for six months... at least!

just stop the development. mario kart works. mission accomplished.

[daring meteor]

Curios

[wanton sun]

it causes all kind of trouble. E.g. next pixel can also be in the next line

[hot spoke]

Okay, the save is not immediately killed. If you start a game via an .mgl file and see that your previous saves are empty, DON'T open the OSD, reset the MiSTer and open the game normally with starting the N64 core manually and then load the game and your save will still be there.
Don't know what's going wrong there and if this is the case for other cores when starting games via .mgl, too.

[quick arch]

there is a regression on title screen of Top Gear Rally

[wanton sun]

todays build?

[quick arch]

yes

[wanton sun]

strange, will take a look tomorrow. before it was just black?

[quick arch]

yes it is just black

[wanton sun]

and just black is correct?

[quick arch]

need to check I'm not sure

[fair stump]

Full mister reboot change anything? I've been caught by that sometimes 😅

[daring meteor]

Are the top gear texture bugs LOD?

[wanton sun]

maybe the game has just other bugs

will try and compare with hw tomorrow

[quick arch]

yes it is not right for Koneko logo screen and in games they are some graphical issues

[daring meteor]

In game there's bugs

[wanton sun]

ok, so worth a try anyway

[quick arch]

same with full reboot

https://tcrf.net/Top_Gear_Rally_(Nintendo_64)

for title screen

[daring meteor]

The white part is also wrong

[fair stump]

Hey alright

This game has a hyper sensitive stick

Seems totally playable now that you can actually navigate menus

[hot spoke]

Where did the previous message go? It indeed answered my question and it seems this is an already known problem. Does anybody know why this happens? Does it happen with other cores too?

[knotty zealot]

am i missing something or are we not able to set integer modes yet

[kind solar]

you can set them in the main ini that's what i've done

0.5 works well i find. scanlines look good and most of the screen is usually filled

[knotty zealot]

i've set fullscreen i think and just tweak individual cores

[cerulean elk]

What’s good in the new core? I’ve been busy

[native mesa]

Interlaced on crt

[fair stump]

Wrestling intros and menus fixed, rainbow six menus and text fixed

[toxic pumice]

• robotron fixed

[fair stump]

Kasher noted it already but nba showtime displays correctly now. Everything except the court was black

The fog in BAR was fixed

[cerulean elk]

Thx. Which wrestling games specifically? They are so hard to keep track on

[fair stump]

Wrestlemania 2000, no mercy, and WCW-nWo Revenge

[cerulean elk]

Awesome. Super appreciate it

[elfin depot]

Anyone looking for a bit different control scheme this works pretty well:

[crisp monolith]

@modern sleet The build with HSync adjust that you did for me that fixed my jumpy CRT image issue (#1096015979055697940 message) , is that something that can be rolled into the main build? Or is it more complicated than that?

[zinc dew]

Yeah it’s awesome! Awesome game and perfect candidate for dual analog controls

[daring meteor]

It can be rolled but the question is how to set it

Because I think some other CRTs will have it bugged

[orchid nimbus]

god penny racers is so bad

we got video now?

[crisp monolith]

Ah right, I see. Here's hoping there's a way to solve it so it works on all CRTs!

[zinc dew]

That’s not for you to decide

[orchid nimbus]

it's my personal opinion you doofus

[zinc dew]

That’s not for you to decide either

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-robby-robby-felix-tag-gif-26409188

[zinc dew]

how do you respond to that? It’s impossible. I found the cheat code to any argument!!!

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-gif-25474198

https://tenor.com/view/take-me-serious-stare-tears-crying-sad-gif-17943997

^^ @zinc dew

[zinc dew]

LOLOL

[knotty zealot]

oh i see. so that's how it is...very well then. very well.

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/special-officer-doofy-doofus-slow-gif-13640016

^^ @zinc dew

[zinc dew]

[orchid nimbus]

and I'm done

https://tenor.com/view/fascinating-mr-spock-henoch-star-trek-the-original-series-gif-23404763

[zinc dew]

No gifs ahhhh!

[knotty zealot]

nerds tryna post wii controllers in the saturn channel. jesus.

[remote hatch]

yeah , where is gif police ? whereeeeee

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/maniac-wanted-reaction-meme-spongebob-gif-24138039

GIF Patrol

[zinc dew]

[remote hatch]

[orchid nimbus]

I self indentify as banned

[knotty zealot]

you're all worse than ME. right?

[fair stump]

That's not for you to decide

[zinc dew]

you’re actually right, I just get asked to enforce it lol

[knotty zealot]

you keep this slack up you're gonna be enforcing potato peelin' duty!

[storm bear]

does mario kart 64 need patching to run on the core currently?

[orchid nimbus]

yes

did you try it?

[plush summit]

Huh?

MK64 works fine as is

[orchid nimbus]

for me too 🙂

without patch even

[storm bear]

i tried without patching and couldn't get it to load, i just assume its my rom

[orchid nimbus]

only Mario 64 needs a patch for now

[kind solar]

was that available on virtual console?

seems pretty good

[elfin depot]

Yeah, and you can switch "R" and "L" depending which hand you prefer to hold the wiimote/joycon in. Works pretty well, and the Joycon has an octogate, @zinc dew 's favorite

[kind solar]

i never thought to try that

just used gc controllers

[zinc dew]

Oh yeah it does!

[solemn marlin]

More wrestling games working, sad day for the core 😔

[storm bear]

debating buying those PCB replacements for the n64 controller from 8bitdo

[elfin depot]

Isn't the N64 known for the best wresting games of all time or did I miss your joke?

[fair stump]

all but one wrestling games seem to be running well

[knotty zealot]

i'm not sure yet what i want to get for n64 but i want another controller. can't be shooting mario kart shells with the right joystick (down)

[lament escarp]

I have one of those if you have any questions.

[fair stump]

The best n64 controller is a saturn pad

[storm bear]

yeah sure, do you still like yours?

[knotty zealot]

it's missing buttons

[solemn marlin]

I've learnt that it was a wrestling favorite, apparently, I just think they're so boring, it's okay if others like em tho

[fair stump]

Sorry, I don't make the rules

[zinc dew]

Arerrrggggg the turns have tabled!

@knotty zealot get the Saffun controller

[storm bear]

my friend did the analog stick replacement in addition to the PCB replacement, it felt like a GC stick but i got used to it p.quick

[wanton sun]

it's not the best game for sure, but i like the upgrade system and the overall progress in the game. NFS child edition 🙂 (yes, i completed the first on the core)

[orchid nimbus]

@storm bear if Mario Kart 64 doesn't work there are 2 possibilities - you have a bad rom or you don't have the ROM N64-database file

@wanton sun I guess Missed a big chunk of the game

[lament escarp]

It's not a big difference imo, the only issue I see right now is that the rumble only works in switch mode, which isn't 100% with the nso driver and therefore requires pairing each time you connect. But you can also just use it in dinput mode without rumble and have no issues.

[storm bear]

i booted my mister to cross check the db file this very moment :v

[fair stump]

Bio freaks looks like it's all good now

[toxic pumice]

Yeeeeeeah let's GO

give me my poverty fgc fix immediately

[storm bear]

good to know ty!

[knotty zealot]

you look like a saffun controller

i should get an original one because i also have a console

[rich flicker]

With today's update, Kawanonushitsuri overworld display properly

[vapid hawk]

i can't get the end boss of RE2 to crash anymore, tried 8 runs all successful, used to be about 50/50

could be a fluke 🤷

biohazard2 still crashes at the stars office door - and the music getting stuck/going silent

[zinc dew]

Which one? Is it a good game and playable if you don’t know Japanese?

[rich flicker]

The plain 64 one. It is an amazing game

It uses the same system as the first games

where you have to be mindful of your fishing or you destroy the ecosystem

[daring meteor]

The Biohazard 2 crash probably a good one for Robert to debug whenever he's done with RDP (Or VI)

[rich flicker]

also each character is a save file, and if you're in a family you share the game world

[knotty zealot]

turok controls like assss

[rich flicker]

the second (shionokazeninotte) is closer to the later games and thus sucks

[zinc dew]

git gud

[rich flicker]

one of the really strong aspects of the game is the soundtrack: you got only nature sounds when you fish, it's incredible

[knotty zealot]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000956427788.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.35.6d8d36f2fD4ZEb&algo_pvid=accce3d4-e586-416d-8062-6f9cc758c0e7&algo_exp_id=accce3d4-e586-416d-8062-6f9cc758c0e7-17&pdp_npi=4%40dis!NOK!156.51!101.69!!!13.99!!%402103200616985142570091942eb438!10000012542902616!sea!NO!141351484!&curPageLogUid=n4doyH33wQSi how bad can they be

[zinc dew]

the game sounds cool but how much Japanese do I need to know to enjoy it?

[rich flicker]

also it is an rpg, but it is tricky: you can fight the nature and get stronger, but the real way to do it is give food to wild animals and get them to not attack you anymore

it's pretty intense

[knotty zealot]

"Recently, it was discovered that some buyers had malicious disputes based on the meticulous simulation of the arrow keys, which made it clear that this controller cannot use subtle direction changes. Please note that the controller can only use the usb pc emulator." loool

[rich flicker]

each character got a storyline you must follow to get access to further areas of the game

from a technical point of view, Kawanonushitsuri 64 got an interesting overworld view: it is 2D, but there is perspective when you scroll and the lighting is "real time" (as there are days and night cycles)

[weary palm]

I submitted a bugfix for main so game boy roms are not treated as N64 roms (i.e no "unknown cic" etc). I also added cic5101 type.

[rich flicker]

the framerate really struggles in some area on a real console, like the bridge in the first town

[zinc dew]

The N64 is full of jamming music. Listen to this absolute GEM: https://youtu.be/yWWra2PsOtI

[wanton sun]

thank you

[knotty zealot]

move over, daytona!!!

YEEAOOUUU

[zinc dew]

my favorite part! I also love EUUUUGHHH

I swear the lyrics say ”big bang dong”

[remote hatch]

@wanton sun have you perhaps had a chance to check the error with the car lights in RR64 ?

[wanton sun]

top gear really is super advanced. It uses LOD for a title screen with no depth. And because that makes no sense, it also forces the game to have a total LOD steps of ... one. So it turns on LOD and then uses some extra guards to make it inactive again

[zinc dew]

lol that’s funny

[wanton sun]

will implement those guards at least for now until LOD is fully there

[wanton sun]

not yet, but i assume it is also those polygon seam issue?

[orchid nimbus]

I wonder why the n64 re-introduces noise into a clean image

[weary palm]

Cinematic experience

[wanton sun]

it can give more depth. E.g. the fog in beetle racing looks very bad without noise

[orchid nimbus]

up the ISO 😄

yeah I can see that

it makes sense like the dithering ... chaotic patterns

I guess the N64 was trully desinged with CRTs in mind

[weary palm]

Star Fox 64 adds ALL the noise

[remote hatch]

I think so , it looked good before the road was fixed (black elements )

[orchid nimbus]

Anthrax & Public Enemy - Bring The Noise

[solemn maple]

Yxkalle, can you patch Diddy Kong racing so that annoying elephant doesn't show up after every race you complete?

[wanton sun]

i have to tackle the polygon seams at some point, but for now i'm just annoyed with them. Spend 5 hours today on it and had to revert everything because of wrong assumption. Will give it another go in some weeks with fresh mind

[weary palm]

Haha, probably

[solemn maple]

He's so loud almost woke my son up last evening 😢

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun I was going through the demos and a lot now works great

[quaint pewter]

Did you ever manage to take a look at why saving is not working in that one specific game? If not no worries.

[orchid nimbus]

corrupt SD card 😛

[wanton sun]

this game that writes to sram all the time and needed fixes for emulators to work at all?

[quaint pewter]

Ummm mystery dungeon shiren 2 yes. It works on everdrive apparently, so it can't absolutely need emulator hacks?

[wanton sun]

the issue with constant saving is that you must freeze the sram in a consistent state

can look at some point how we can do that

i wonder how it works on a real system if you turn off in the middle of moving

[pure ocean]

Top Gear Rally has blending and animations in the beginning. So the black before wasn't right either. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK-EIS8jcO8

@wanton sun

So basically it's better than before to answer this at least 😄

[wanton sun]

you can try if it's fixed

looks fine for me

[pure ocean]

looking fine @wanton sun

That was the fastest fix ever! Hahaha.

[quick arch]

Yes great 🙂

thank you ^^

[quaint pewter]

Thank you for looking. Can still play that one on emul if it can't be fixed but obviously it would be superior to play on the core along with everything else.

[vast delta]

Is there a way to get rumble working on either the NSO controller or the 8bitdo mod kit? Can't find anything on this anywhere

[quick arch]

Kemco logo is fixed also

[wanton sun]

rumble should work with NSO via bluetooth

[daring meteor]

I had a feeling it was LOD once I saw the funny textures

[vast delta]

Thank you, you beautiful genius

[tropic sand]

Checked the lava in emulation vs the core. Other than that the whole game plays and looks better in the core ... Awesome work 🥰

[vast delta]

Would the 8bitdo controller rumble when in S mode as well (basically emulates an NSO controller)

[daring meteor]

Is this the secret YUV texture

[wanton sun]

either that or the lowest detail LOD level 🙂

i have seen today that beetle does use LOD, so it can't be perfect yet

[vast delta]

I need to get off my ass and test the rumble on a pc, I have the feeling I may have a lemon

[wanton sun]

maybe someone here has one. i only use the NSO with the core

[vast delta]

It's scarily good

I bought 2 just to keep one for when my main one inevitably grinds itself to dust

[wanton sun]

would use snac if i could get decent one, but it's horrible. And i don't want to repair one, costs too much time and probably it would have 3 buttons less afterwards

[quick arch]

Those screens of Top Gear Overdrive with N64_lodmax.rbf are fixed

[knotty zealot]

but it's BT

[fair stump]

This build looks like it fixed all the track glitching in stunt racer 64

And on the cube in the main menu

and the plane textures in aerofighters assault

[lament escarp]

Yes, but you need the unstable linux image with the nso driver

[orchid nimbus]

C&C looks so crisp and hi-res now

[modern sleet]

Check the latest YC, if that works I'll put in a PR

[daring meteor]

What does it do? Just curios

[modern sleet]

I just made the Hsync longer, originally it was waay under spec, currently it's around 3us I pushed it to 4us

[knotty zealot]

i'm thinking i want a n64 deamonbite adapter but nobody's made one. there's a mctimville 4 controller adapter but it's got different components. who will create firmware for standalone n64 deamon and GIT IT UP

[vast delta]

I know exactly what you mean. I also think an original style analog stick is integral to the N64 experience. That hollow snap of the stick instantly brought me back

[daring meteor]

Ah, even longer, got it

[knotty zealot]

i've PM'd mickgyver but who knows. he's probably busy.

[toxic pumice]

finally got the chance to sit down and play bio freaks properly. It's so shit, I love it

[crisp monolith]

Tested - works!

[solemn marlin]

What's the best n64 racing game, not counting kart racers

[toxic pumice]

top gear rally is alright, star wars ep 1 racer and f-zero x are astounding

I enjoy bad games so cruis'n exotica is pretty fun

Rush 2, San Francisco Rush 2049

[bronze tree]

I'm having a lot of fun with Beetle Adventure Racing

[solemn marlin]

Hmm I do like f-zero but I'm looking for something approximating reality I guess, so far I've also really liked beetle adventure racing

[toxic pumice]

you might like top gear overdrive?

Would definitely recommend Rush 2 / Rush 2049

[solemn marlin]

Gotta try it, thanks for the rec 🚙

[ocean lily]

no, it should have a waving checkered flag behind the text - top gear rally has shown regressions since 9/21 or 9/23 (I forget which)

that was also when textures went crazy on it and the intro splashes broke

[knotty zealot]

i'm leaning towards that NSO controller

[ocean lily]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nPPYhI62bWw&pp=ygUUVG9wIGdlYXIgcmFsbHkgaW50cm8%3D

[toxic pumice]

The test build posted in here seems to work perfectly

It also fixed the dodgy texture stuff

[ocean lily]

let me check that one - i missed there was a test build not in #test-builds

[toxic pumice]

all good! this one right here - #1096015979055697940 message

[ocean lily]

ah beautiful- that one seems flawless to me now

even fixes the text for the first time that i've seen so far

[wanton sun]

didn't want to do another test build today, but will integreate it into tomorrows 🙂

[zinc dew]

Saffun, it's cheaper and lower latency!

[vast delta]

just got the rumble to work, good lord I love this core

[knotty zealot]

weeeeell it's not cheaper for me with shipping and customs

[vast delta]

whatdo the buttons and stick feel like on the saffun?

[orchid nimbus]

the more I see of ther n64 the more I think they made a huge mistake by not going with Sony 😄

[chrome quest]

Just checked Nushi Zuri 64 after looking at the spreadsheet. Just heads up you didn't update the core build date, just in case there's anything else from today like that.
Nice to see some overworld sprites!

[knotty zealot]

i'm deep in the rabbithole but it seems like the saffun one is a great choice. some issue with the rotation of the joystick? it's not mapped properly

[vast delta]

@wanton sun sorry to bother you again, but how are you handling the save files for games with in-cart and controller pak saves?

[daring meteor]

Thank you

Yeah I forgot to update

[daring meteor]

They're concatenated (Which isn't idea, probably can edit main, but probably needs to update tpak handling because Nushi Zuri)

[orchid nimbus]

to SD card

[vast delta]

i know, but there only seems to be one file?

[daring meteor]

Yeah, they're concatenated

[vast delta]

ah i see

i'm just bringing my saves over from my ED64

will take a look later to see how it's done

but there may be something up when you change games on the fly. i remember one game had whatever i was playing previously still in memory

trying to find which one it is

found it

[chrome quest]

I believe that is by design. Not an issue on a game by game basis if there is content from anther game saved to the CPAK. Can't recall the specifics, but it was to make data loss less likely I believe. All you need to do is format if you ended up with a full one.
If you're converting your own, no need to worry about it. A game with CPAK with only that games contents will work fine. The odd time you have another game also saved to the CPAK is no harm

[vast delta]

ah, i see. controller pak management on the N64 sucks

do all games have a format option?

[deft tree]

It’s not really any worse than managing memory cards for PS1

With fewer games that care about other game saves

[toxic pumice]

yeah but at least the ps1 had an internal memory card management tool

[deft tree]

https://www.dkoldies.com/blog/get-access-to-your-n64-game-memory-pak-files-in-this-hidden-screen-/

[fair stump]

The confusing part is that your previous controller pak game will carry forward to another game. But when you go to the second game you either have enough memory and you're good or you have to format the cpak

[zinc dew]

Saffun Negatives:

• no octognal gate like on a real n64 controller, minor issue
• L and R triggers have a hard hinge and won’t depress when pressing on the inside, minor issue
• analog stick range is like a modern stick so it’s double the range of what the N64 needs, major issue but is fixed with the latest unstable MiSTer

Saffun Plusses:

• noticeably lower latency, 2.4ghz wireless
• includes wireless dongle for your N64
• doesn’t require constant re-pairing if you use a combo WiFi/bluetooth adapter
• different colors, cheaper and readily available

[vast delta]

the controller pak can barely hold 2 or 3 games, and there's no way to access the saves without remembering to hold start when booting a game. in the ps1, all you had to was to boot without a disc

[deft tree]

The mister spins up a new pak for ever game

[vast delta]

i get that

[toxic pumice]

Kinda - There's occasionally a bit of data bleeding that comes in from the previous game/pak you were using, from what I understand

[vast delta]

but there is data bleeing

[deft tree]

Gotcha

[vast delta]

the N64 controller pak has 123 notes available

[fair stump]

Yes that is the confusing part everyone has to learn

[vast delta]

and it's not uncommon for games to be almost 100 notes big

so if you are playing one of these games

[deft tree]

Is there a method to hard reboot to ensure each game gets a fresh pak?

[vast delta]

change to another without rebooting mister

that save will carry over into your new game

and your new game may complain your controller pak is full

not all games, to my knowledge, have an easy way to format the pak

[toxic pumice]

There's a 'Format CPAK Now' option in System Settings, i've not tried that but wouldn't that just give you a fresh pak?

[knotty zealot]

Robby Negatives: tried to make a good doom game but resulted in a disney ride on rails shooter. Major issue. Robby Pluses: posts some decent gifs and upholds law and order onlne.

[vast delta]

yup, that should do the trick

[chrome quest]

I'm not so familiar with Bio F.R.E.A.K.S. if you (or anyone) can confirm if this looks normal.
Back + A for the "shield". Minimal use on the YouTube videos I've found, but might be that it should be a near solid colour?
Could do with verifying on hardware if nobody knows to hand. Doesn't look right.... but you never know!

[fair stump]

Yeah I saw that but I don't know the game at all

[chrome quest]

I'll keep looking for a video that says real hardware and shows the shield

Ohh, as I waited on pause in Bio FREAKS for over a minute, the pause screen bizarely became a Windows 98 screen saver!

[zinc dew]

I tried!

[chrome quest]

USA test spreadsheet TAB has gone walkabout

[knotty zealot]

i think this spicy safran controller would be my choice. maybe you can change the joystick on it or mod it

[manic basin]

So WCW Nitro plays fast on every emulator but watching video from real hardware, it also runs pretty fast, but not AS fast. It's legitimately 'Yakkity Sax' territory. I saw a video that states if all 4 controllers are plugged in (maybe they meant 4 player) it's basically a slide show. What a weird game.

It also legitimately sucks. Control wise.

[knotty zealot]

@zinc dew do you own the saffrun?

SOFARUN controller

[zinc dew]

I bought a similar branded one but it’s identical.

[knotty zealot]

from what i've seen on youtube, the 8bitdo hall effect one ain't gonna cut it for fine aiming

https://tenor.com/view/goldeneye64-snoogs-n64-gun-gif-19188104

and i need to hit this target

[weary palm]

It's too smol. Can't.

[chrome quest]

The Bio Freaks shield animation might indeed be correct looking at videos.
This bouncing screen saver on Pause menu after... maybe 2 minutes idle even? Never seen this before on an N64 game, any console game I can think of really.
Wonder if it's even a known thing? So silly

[fair stump]

So how's vivid dolls?

[native mesa]

Hall effect stick is more precise than any OEM stick ive used

[lament escarp]

It's a very good game when you're lonly.

[fair stump]

I meant does it work 😆

[deft tree]

you'll probably appreciate that i saw a dancing eyes board on ebay the other day lol

[lament escarp]

Against loneliness

Sorry 😄

[native mesa]

I think games like that would only make you more lonely

[weary palm]

I think you're stuck in some kink of service menu in Vivid Dolls.

[fair stump]

Some kink

[tidal zenith]

maybe not THE cure, but it is A cure

[chrome quest]

Not really sure what LOD max means #1096015979055697940 message, but another benefit incoming once this is added to the main test-build;
World Driver Championship looks perfect I think. Just from the first screens you can see the textures. Track in game stable too, no more flicker

[daring meteor]

I bet it always displays the maximal lod instead of a random one

[quaint pewter]

Tony 2 is looking awesome. This game always makes me happy.

[chrome quest]

See the spreadsheet is getting fixed up.
Wondering if the Europe Tab should get the same Perfect/Completable/Playable/Boots/NoBoot as the USA and Japan tabs, so that the count lists and such would work.
As is, all the European game entries already go along with the common format

[modern sleet]

Chart looks alot better when you have the TLB build for those who beat Superman 64

[lament escarp]

Robby is gonna do a charity live stream where he beats each version of superman 64 on hard.

Or I at least try to bully him into it. 😄

[native mesa]

Every localization? Lol

[zinc dew]

That sounds like a saw game torture device

[random portal]

Twisted Edge is better than 1080 and Snowboard Kids

sadly Twisted Edge isn't running and I dont care to test the other snowboarding games

[weary palm]

SSX is the best.

[stone estuary]

has anyone tried one of the older wireless brawler64 controllers (connected with a usb to n64 port adapter)? does rumble work?

[fair stump]

Amped 3 is the best

[kind solar]

vanilla sm64 no face doesn't seem to have the water bug

and the shotgun version seems to work fine

[zinc dew]

do you need to no-face patch shotgun mario?

[orchid nimbus]

no

[vapid moat]

Not needed

[zinc dew]

GLORIOUS

[kind solar]

shotgun mario seems to be designed around a modern controller layout tho so you'll prob want to use one of those

[rose elbow]

also designed around emulators a bit more, the notes recommend using ParaLLEl emulator. it seems to work well on real hardware/mister but pretty unstable and prone to crashing

[kind solar]

i didn't play enough of it to see any of that i guess

just until i got bored of the gimmick

[rose elbow]

aha

i kinda love it but it's exactly what it says it is

at a certain point it does turn into just playing through Super Mario 64 but the extra shotgun jump gives you move movability

[kind solar]

and level select

[rose elbow]

aha ye

[kind solar]

since you can just shotgun the doors

[rose elbow]

if u fall off a cliff u can redeem by shotgun blasting back on

[kind solar]

i did that on the ice race

[rose elbow]

its right in the middle of like, it's a 1 trick gimmick but also the gimmick is so good lol

[cerulean elk]

Happy “most people work weekdays” Halloween from Mrs Esoterica and I!

[kind solar]

hst

?

[cerulean elk]

Yep

I had the sunglasses. So I got the rest

[kind solar]

is mrs esoterica dracula or alucard?

[cerulean elk]

They are actually late 60s vintage Bausch and Lomb shooters. I collect vintage sunglasses

She’s a vampire but I say she’s Alucard

[languid dune]

You wear sunglasses to bed don't you?

[cerulean elk]

Ask your mom

[languid dune]

We have never seen your eyes!

[kind solar]

we can't stop here this is bat country

[languid dune]

She said you do. I knew it!

[cerulean elk]

And you never will lol

[elfin depot]

Oh yeah, well I got these sweet vintage shades

[languid dune]

My only pair of sunglasses are some Harley Davidson branded ones that my dad gave me.

[cerulean elk]

I might have…like…sixty pair 🤣 there’s nothing I can’t collect lol

[fair stump]

How do you have space in your house

[languid dune]

That's his secret. He doesn't have room in his house!

[cerulean elk]

I need a bigger house soon lol

[languid dune]

Move to Wisconsin! We have plenty of space! 🧀

[cerulean elk]

How the home prices up there? Because they aren’t giving them away here

[languid dune]

Not bad as long as you don't live in Milwaukee.

[cerulean elk]

Yeah I need access to on demand dive bars and good Chinese food. Can’t leave cities

[languid dune]

I worked in downtown Milwaukee for years. Don't recommend it. Though I've lived in the suburbs my whole life, so the city life just isn't for me.

[cerulean elk]

I like having everything I’d ever want all within a ten mile radius of me. Because I grew up on a dead end road in the woods as a kid. Don’t want to do it again

[zinc dew]

Dumb question but how do I get right stick aiming?

I see, press R

My bad

[kind solar]

yea i just mapped c buttons to right stick

[zinc dew]

This is hilarious lolol

[kind solar]

you can also move the camera with the dpad in increments rather than the way it usually works

[cerulean elk]

Someone peed on the floor again didn’t they

You can’t treat it like you are playing Mario Party

[orchid nimbus]

Now I know why you talk to fast - you’re married and always have lack of time 🙂

[zinc dew]

Damn, can’t play N64 anymore

My boys heard the shotgun and now they’re taking turns playing Shotgun Mario lol

[rose elbow]

nooo!

who knew mario 64 needed a shotgun

[native mesa]

I want a yoshi safari hunt

[cerulean elk]

Lol I have no idea how that makes sense but it made me laugh

But yes I’ve been married for a long time. Contrary to my salty YT commenters who think I am a morbidly obese basement incel 😂🤣

[fair stump]

Why not both?

[native mesa]

I wouldn't share my Mrs bacon with any video game adjacent community either

[orchid nimbus]

Now you describe me lol

[cerulean elk]

Yes this is a rare sighting amongst friends. Last time I shared a photo it got weird so I’ve never done it since. But I trust the people on here lol. Well not you @zinc dew but everyone else

[rose elbow]

i believe its this #1096015979055697940 message

(not too sure beyond that :)

[cerulean elk]

Sorry I know it’s off topic. Just having fun

[zinc dew]

Anyone else having C-left being pressed when pushing left on the analog stick? This only happens if you map the c buttons to the right stick.

[rose elbow]

right stick?

[viral portal]

This is a great representation of a morbidly obese basement dweller

[rose elbow]

what controller are you using?

[zinc dew]

8BitDo Pro 2

[rose elbow]

i skipped mapping c buttons to anything

with P1>P2 turned on, the Controller 2 joystick is mapped to the camera controls/right stick @zinc dew

[cerulean elk]

Technically she is Lestadt but we all know it’s Alucard

[kind solar]

I’d marry alucard too

[kind solar]

It lets you do that? That’s weird

[rose elbow]

ya, with P1-P2 you get "analog" control. it's not super smooth here but do get a few degrees of speed

beyond what using C-buttons would give you at least

[kind solar]

Is there a menu option in game to enable that or does it just work?

[rose elbow]

in shotgun mario it just works. the camera control is assigned to both the c-buttons on Controller 1, so you can just use a regular n64 controller and it'll work.. but its also assigned to Controller 2 joystick, so using an emulator or whatever lets you do this

[rose elbow]

vanilla mario 64 doesn't have it

but i think there are hacks out there that have player 2 camera controller controls hacked in

im guessing the camera control being mapped to both C-buttons and Controller 2 joystick might be why robby was getting weird double inputs happening. but i worked around that by skipping the c-buttons when assigning buttons on mister

[hazy arch]

Is Animal Forest supported right now since it relies on real time?

[zinc dew]

kinda sorta

[zenith orchid]

you still gotta manually input the date and time right?

[zinc dew]

I haven’t bothered truth be told. I’ve just read people have played it here but it eventually glitches

[ebon oyster]

I haven't been able to get rumble working with the RetroBit wireless NSO64 controllers. Is that still unsupported, or do I need some special Linux build or something? I'm not seeing anything about it in the pins or on Vampier's site.

[languid dune]

The NSO N64 controllers definitely work with rumble on the core. Not sure about the RetroBit ones though.

[zinc dew]

Grab the latest Linux driver unstable and give it a shot. Also try to set your controller to Xinput if it has that option.

[ebon oyster]

Not sure what you mean by "Linux driver unstable". Do you just mean "Linux unstable", or something else?

[zinc dew]

Yes

[ebon oyster]

I already tried the latest Linux unstable as of 3 days ago, and rumble still wasn't working for me then. Do I need to configure anything other than "RumblePack" as the controller type in the core menu?

[zinc dew]

That should be it. Can you set your controller to Xinput?

[ebon oyster]

These controllers use their own proprietary USB dongles, so no, they don't have "X-input" or other usual modes as found on generic Bluetooth controllers.

[zinc dew]

That might be the issue then. Sorry, not sure what else to suggest

[ebon oyster]

To be clear, this is the exact controller I'm talking about: https://a.co/d/9xW5uDj

[fair stump]

https://manuals.plus/retro-bit/tribute64-2-4-ghz-wireless-controller-manual#default_button_inputs

Is this the manual?

If so, it looks like there is an x input mode

[rose elbow]

👁👄👁

[ebon oyster]

Whoa, good find! That isn't described at all on the sticker on the back of the controller (where such info normally appears on 8bitdo controllers, at least).

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

[fair stump]

🤞

[orchid nimbus]

I can't even read those things anymore .... I use my iphone camera to make a picture these days

[ebon oyster]

Same

[native mesa]

The new gb rom loading threw an error because it was checking against the N64 Database but a match would never be found. It looks like this update excludes gb filetypes from checking the db

[zinc dew]

https://x.com/kunta_/status/1715382372151996477?s=46&t=qZDZkf9otfQfj9v44WsIZA

[pliant pollen]

they should have put shotgun mario in that ad

[ebon oyster]

Is it normal for the main OSD to still report OS v230501 even after dropping the latest (09/23) unstable build of zImage_dtb into place and rebooting? Or does that indicate I have somehow not actually loaded the unstable build?

[hearty oar]

yes, that's the date of the MiSTer build, not the linux kernel image

or at least I think it is

ah no there are 2 numbers

just ignore me lol

[ebon oyster]

No, the date of the MiSTer build is shown by MiSTER v231026. It might be the date of the OS distribution rather than the date of the Linux kernel though. That's what I'm trying to determine.

[hearty oar]

although yeah that's the same date that I have for OS

so checks out, that's the latest date

I'm actually not sure where it gets that number from, you're probably right, it must be distribution time - the commits from Jul 23 onwards haven't been released yet to a "stable" verison

and the commit before that is April 25

yep checks out: #news message

[ebon oyster]

Awesome -- rumble is now working, switching to X-input mode was the trick.

[mortal panther]

I deleted my comment. I was thinking of the wrong thing. You are correct. I forgot there were separate version numbers on that particular screen... one for MiSTer (main binary), one for OS (Linux image). 🤦‍♂️

[night saddle]

all the mystery dungeon games ive played are like this. torneko and shiren 1 on SNES both save with every step you take. its so you cant savescum the game with carts

likely chocobo mystery dungeon on GBA is the same

[hearty oar]

I was going to say, I did a little digging to see where it comes from out of curiosity, there is actually a file belonging to Linux in the root of the filesystem named MiSTer.version that pertains to the current Linux version. Good excuse to learn something silly today, haha

[night saddle]

so if you power off mid-step, you'll just resume on the previous square youw ere at

[mortal panther]

Yeah, no kidding. Thanks! 😄

[random portal]

SSX Tricky

[brisk edge]

that's pretty interesting, I had no idea that's how the mystery dungeon games operate. Makes sense though

[wanton sun]

There are 8 texture settings. Usually when doing dual texturing, the second texture uses the setting of the first texture + 1. With LOD, all 8 can be used, depending on the "distance". However, when a game uses LOD and it's not "detail texture" mode and set the maximum LOD level to 0, the second texture fetch will use the same setting as the first. It's kind of useless mode, but exists. This is currently the only thing that is implemented in the test core: prevent using of the "+1" when these useless settings are requested by the game. So it's not really max LOD, it's the game using LOD with only 1 level total

[mossy vector]

Does the RDP calculate LOD per pixel? Or is it per horizontal span and interpolated? Or is it some other magic formula using the vertex coordinates?

[wanton sun]

per pixel. It takes the texture coordinates of the current and the pixel x+1 and y+1, calculates the difference between them and with that decides the LOD distance

(pixel coordinates are perspective corrected first)

[mossy vector]

Wow. So no shortcuts. Is it also doing a base 2 logarithm?

[wanton sun]

usually you would expect this to take the z coordinate? at least i would, but it's not.

base 2, well kind of. it seeks the highest 1

[mortal panther]

@wanton sun if anti-aliasing is disabled, 2 rows of pixels (1 at the top, 1 at the bottom) appear to get cropped for some reason. If anti-aliasing is enabled, those 2 rows appear. I understand those black pixel artifacts are normal behavior, but if you keep those 2 rows hidden while anti-aliasing is enabled, those artifacts wouldn't be seen. Is there a reason why there is a difference in visible rows of pixels when toggling that option?

[wanton sun]

you see them because the real hardware also shows them

if i crop them off, people will complain they are not there 🙂

[mortal panther]

Fair enough. 🙂

Was just wondering why disabling anti-aliasing causes 2 entire rows of pixels to disappear.

So it doesn't just cause/create the black artifacts, but the entire top and bottom rows?

[wanton sun]

yes

[mortal panther]

Interesting. Thanks!

[wanton sun]

the top row has a coverage of 0, so the algorithmn thinks it's a border of a polygon, so it pulls in information from adjacent pixels that are not borders. If the pixel below is inside a polygon, it will be pulled into the topmost, black line. If only borders are below the pixel stays black

it actually only checks 2 pixels from the line below and both must be inside a polygon

[mortal panther]

I love how you take the time to explain things. Thank you very much. I'm good now. 😄

[hearty oar]

haha, was interested while the above conversation on mip mapping was going on and had a quick google about mip lod selection on n64, and came across this blog post: https://gliden64.blogspot.com/2013/09/hardware-lod.html

and while reading the part where they're like, you can't get the values of neighbouring fragment invocations and thinking, yes you can, have you heard of ddx and ddy

and sure enough the top comment lol

[mortal panther]

I've been trying to get the Super Mario 64 (Japan) (Rev 3) (Shindou Edition) ROM patched with English translation and other improvements (this patch: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5755/) along with no stretchy face patch, but I can't seem to make one that will load at all.

Has anyone been able to find a combination of patches to make that work?

[mossy vector]

Knowing the math underneath it is what I've been struggling to find. Dfdy especially is not a trivial calculation.

[rose elbow]

wow was just in Ocarina Kakariko Village, toggling VI Bilinear on and off (as you do 😅 ) and had the game crash with 0080045

first time ive had that happen from toggling VI

unless something else happened and it was a coincidence

[hearty oar]

For sure, just interesting to read about the struggles of earlier software emulator authors to figure out how to implement this stuff

[wanton sun]

maybe the sdram readout stuck due to not be required anymore and therefore the other components couldn't access it? Very weird

[latent galleon]

speaking of taking time to explain things, maybe once this core has matured you could make your patreon explanation of the VI filtering public...because it was the best explanation i've seen on the internet

[pale granite]

or just make I book, I'd buy that

[mortal panther]

N64 hardware engineers: "Oooh... so that's what that did!"

[mossy vector]

Lol. Phil Gossett seems like he still knows every detail of what he did based on the computer history museum interview somebody suggested a while back.

[mild finch]

Found this quote from him:

So anyway, the other things that I had to do, we couldn’t quite afford the normal trilinear interpolation that you do for a mipmapped thing. So I came up with this hack, which was dubbed triangular interpolation, which split the four-element square in each of the two levels into two triangles, okay, and then you got to save a couple of multipliers by doing this, okay

But I can't find anything on Google about "triangular interpolation". Any info on what that is exactly?

[mossy vector]

The 3 point texture interpolation that gives that rupee hexagonal look.

[pale granite]

is a special build needed for SNAC support?

I'm using the MiSTeraddons SNAC adapter with a blissbox n64 cable, but the pad doesn't seem recognized

[daring meteor]

No

[pale granite]

I did turn SNAC on in the debug menu

[mortal panther]

I think you also need to select SNAC for Controller Type.

[pale granite]

yep that was it! thanks!

[uncut gyro]

is it just me, or does the Dr Mario 64 opening intro theme sound a lot like the Ramones’ song Blitzkrieg Bop?

[mossy vector]

Left is typical 4 point bilinear, right is the "triangle" 3 point.

[mild finch]

Thanks! How does it work? Does it use barycentric coordinates?

[iron dove]

I just patched the rom with that hack, then ran it through https://github.com/yxkalle/MarioDefacer/releases/tag/1.0b
has booted up OK, running around the castle

shotgun mario needs a verison based off this, for the rumble 🙂

[mossy vector]

Yes! but that is only a start. It is possible to reduce down to only 9 multiplications because you have right triangles whose sides are exactly 1 unit length.

[iron dove]

Every time you crouch to do a long jump it rumbles. So... pretty much constantly :p

[rose elbow]

i found the rumble version of just mario 64 excessive for that reason, or a lot of n64 games for that measure LOL

Ocarina is nice

[languid dune]

I can never have too much rumble!

Can't wait for the rumble version of Wave Race 64 to get fixed!

[rose elbow]

i was wanting to test out Diddy Kong Racing switching between rubmle and cpak last night

and could barely stand playing with it on LOL

[uncut gyro]

Some graphics corruption in MIA Hamm that weren’t there last week when I tested

@wanton sun let me know if there’s any settings or debugging I can do to help triage

[solemn maple]

Growing up none of my friends had the rumble pak so to me any n64 game with rumble feel weird 😋

[rose elbow]

i had one growing up but probably just kept the cpak in more often than not. goldeneye probably good one where i had to go back to rumble lol

[wanton sun]

this was an oversight, forgot to remove it

[pale granite]

oh right - I also was confused about what "SNAC compare" does. Best to remove if not needed

[wanton sun]

snac on in debug is removed in next build, snac compare is useful for debugging, it will stay

overall it's the debug menu. Maybe i should hide it like psx did

[wanton sun]

could be related to any of the VI timing changes recently

[ebon oyster]

Why does the N64 version of Batman Beyond run at warp speed? I gather that's the way it actually is on real hardware, not a problem with the core.

[foggy stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdxxqKqXuc4

[rose elbow]

it's running faster than on real hardware

[rose elbow]

https://youtu.be/AVdt-ESbLoM

[ebon oyster]

Okay, that's way more reasonable... but I saw some other old YouTube video that reviewed a bunch of N64 games and showed it running just as fast as it does on the current MiSTer core. Weird.

[rose elbow]

ye took clicking thru like 10+ vids to find a vid not running on emulator lol

[ebon oyster]

So it runs at warp speed on emulators too?

[rose elbow]

seemingly

[ebon oyster]

Probably some "block doing X until Y completes" inaccuracy in the emulation and MiSTer core, I guess. Maybe both derived from the same fault documentation somewhere?

[iron dove]

memory BW isnt currently limited in the core and that seems to often be the system's bottleneck, Robert mentioned it's ~60% faster than original HW currently
warp speed sounds like something else / even more than that % difference tho

[wanton sun]

doesn't seem to be memory bandwidth. even with slowing down the memory massive with 112 delay, it still runs above 30fps

[daring meteor]

Hopefully it's a pointer to the non graphics, non TLB bugs remaining in the core

[wanton sun]

the game does use vblank interrupts for it's speed, no idea what could be wrong then

if it really had no cap for 30fps, it should have 60fps sometimes also on real hw

or at least above 30

at least the game is heavily optimized: if i downclock the cpu to 10mhz in my emulator, it still runs at 50fps, haha

[rose elbow]

one thing i was curious about, playing Ocarina, there seems to be a lot of colour banding. i wanna say more than og hw?

[versed cairn]

dither on?

[rose elbow]

dither on, everything set to Original

[versed cairn]

this might be unrelated but I found out the component mode on the analog io board is 6-bit per channel while RGB is 8bit per channel

I found this out cause I was playing oot and it had banding only on componant out

[rose elbow]

oo. i'm just on hdmi atm

[versed cairn]

kk, no idea what you're seeing then lol I thought I had answers

would be interested in a hdmi moded n64 to mister hdmi comparison

[rose elbow]

yeah i'm on svideo into retrotink.. so it's not exactly hdmi out / not a 1:1

[versed cairn]

I have a hdmi moded n64. I would need to bring it over to my pc to capture though. too much work for tonight

[rose elbow]

all good. i assume the n64 core also has things still being ironed out but figured i'd still ask

[versed cairn]

I wanna do side by sides but idk if were at pixel to pixel comparison level yet

[rose elbow]

ya

[wanton sun]

svideo out from mister? using analog board?

[rose elbow]

no no sorry. hdmi out on mister, and n64 s-video going into retrotink

[wanton sun]

oh ok

you have any screenshot from mister what situation you think is wrong?

[rose elbow]

can do

the video with no items yet is the N64 S-video

[wanton sun]

ok, i can see what you mean and svideo doesn't explain it

[rose elbow]

thank you for checking it 🙏 :)

[versed cairn]

Oh the fog banding. Yeah I noticed that too

[rose elbow]

the great fairy caves was another good example

it was really strong there

[versed cairn]

Thought it was part of the alpha dither not being in yet but that’s in now and it’s still a thing

Does the master sword chamber has this too?

I remember the light ray being pretty bandy

[rose elbow]

im only up to jabu jabu 😩

[versed cairn]

Fair

[wanton sun]

omg this is so embarassing....

[native mesa]

Is fog simply a texture? Maybe it uses LOD for a smoother effect?

[wanton sun]

https://github.com/RobertPeip/Mister64/blob/main/rtl/RDP_DitherFetch.vhd#L97

[simple olive]

ditherAlpha <= (others => '0'); -- todo: hack until implemented

[wanton sun]

of course i forgot to delete the line after it was implemented

[rose elbow]

easy fix????? :)

[wanton sun]

will build without it now, lets see

but it's the dither alpha for sure, tested in my emulator, if it's forced to 0 i get the same banding

the question now is if i implemented it correct before i forgot to remove the line 😅

[rose elbow]

ooooooh i see i see

[wanton sun]

haha, it was no mistake, i also forgot to implement it, only implemented for color, not for alpha

will do it, should be no big deal

[rose elbow]

all good!

[native mesa]

You can build that fast? I though quartus compiling took a million years

Can't wait to see superman after this!

[wanton sun]

building takes around 12 minutes

so i test stuff with the emulator what it does

[daring meteor]

Huh, guess me and Robert have similar CPUs

[wanton sun]

i invested into a 13900k to be able to work faster 😅

[daring meteor]

I'm on a 12700 haha

[wanton sun]

yes, i think the difference is not that huge for those

[daring meteor]

Yeah, mostly ecores and I am not sure how much they're used

[wanton sun]

got a AMD 3700x beforeand especially VHDl simulation and the emulator are nearly double speed

[daring meteor]

Really impressed with mine

[rose elbow]

speaking of embarrassing.. just on this one again.. it's maybe possible i accidentally finger slipped while in the mister OSD and switched the ini file.. if that explains the error ?

[wanton sun]

i don't know exactly what is does, but it seems unlikely

[rose elbow]

ive deleted the alt ini files i had, so that shouldnt happen again

[wanton sun]

i tried the bilinear switch for 1 minute earlier today and couldn't get anything

but if this happens again, i might have to look deeper

[rose elbow]

i'll let you know if it happens again. i'm going to say it might've been a finger slip tho for now

[wanton sun]

so far OoT seemed stable for many here, so i would assume it has to do with the OSD action, but i cannot be sure

[rose elbow]

thank you again :)

[wanton sun]

thanks for notify me that the banding is there. I totally forgot the alpha dithering. Probably assumed it was in when the mario teleport effect worked, but of course the RDP has (at least) 3 places where it's used and i somehow forgot to implement the other 2

[mild ether]

Freezing still exists in current core in Dr Mario. Still need to go back and see if it was always there or is regression.

Just kinda random and rare in Story mode.

[vague socket]

Guys, what SNAC are you guys buying/using? Thanks

[wanton sun]

any error flags?

rare and random sounds very bad 😦

[daring meteor]

I wouldn't be surprised if they're all the same error

[mild ether]

I tried turning it on after the crash and got no error overlay. Does it have to be on prior to the crash?

To be specific if anyone wants to help test the crash is in Dr. Mario lodgenet playing in story mode. The game freezes and the music keeps playing.

[rose elbow]

😩 i just now got E0080045 again, from bringing up the OSD in Ocarina. this time not toggling any settings

[wanton sun]

did it happen instantly?

e.g. due to autosave?

[rose elbow]

i wanna say yes

the time i reported it in Kakariko, i was toggling Bilinear on and off, so not that time tho

[wanton sun]

i can't see what the OSD itself should do...

[rose elbow]

odd...

[wanton sun]

of course it will put pressure onto HPS and modify ddr3 access timing

what makes it strange is that the error code is identic to what you get after reloading the core

[wanton sun]

you can turn on any time, it's not deleted. But of course you don't see if the error flag came at the same time it crashed or long before

[mild ether]

E0000800 is the code but this came on long before the crash.

No new error on the crash.

[wanton sun]

that's just some rdp feature not implemented, not reason for a crash

does it hang? image still there? music still playing?

[mild ether]

Music plays and image freezes. frame rate 0.

[wanton sun]

ok...so if this was more reproducible i could check with signaltap what part is waiting there for what

most likely interlock between rsp/cpu and rdp

[mild ether]

Sometimes I can play through the entire story mode with no crash and other times I can hit it twice in a half hour or so. Random.

[rose elbow]

ohh, i'm still on unstable MiSTer_20231015.. instead of MiSTer MiSTer_20231018. could that have anything to do with anything?
(regarding having Ocarina crashing when bringing up OSD with E0080045)

odd that update_all didn't grab it

will continue playing OOT and seeing if still run into anything

[hollow rune]

I played this quite a bit and never saw it.

What difficulty?

Mario or Wario?

[mild ether]

In the last week or so worth of cores? Lodgenet?

Mario easy

[hollow rune]

Oh no it was not lodgement. My bad

I can test it today though

[mild ether]

I haven't gone too far back and checked the earlier cores. I didn't play story mode in the past but it has been pretty solid beforehand.

[wanton sun]

banding is now gone 🙂

[rose elbow]

awesome!!! :):):):)

[hollow rune]

Will it be toggleable? I kind of liked it

[wanton sun]

what do you mean?

[hollow rune]

Whether the banding is there

Like I would not be sad if not. Just curious

[wanton sun]

it's a standard feature of the rdp, but now that you ask, i might have to bind it to the dithering feature...

so that it can be turned off

[hollow rune]

Does it happen during cutscenes or gameplay?

[mild ether]

Gameplay.

Haven't got it to happen on the US rom yet so probably is specific to the Lodgenet version.

[hollow rune]

music in DrM 64 is so good

[compact depot]

Is Dr. Mario crashing randomly?

[hollow rune]

I haven't seen it on USA, but @mild ether has seen it randomly on Lodgenet

I just did once through on lodgenet and didn't see anything, but will do it again in a few minutes

[toxic pumice]

Aerogauge a new one to add to the completeable list.

[mild ether]

Just did a play through on USA without issue.

There is this glitch with the lines going through the clouds also on the game ending.

[hollow rune]

Mode or did you do everything?

[toxic pumice]

full grand prix completed

intermediate difficulty

[prisma ivy]

So when I load Discord in the morning and go into this channel it starts me at the last place I scrolled. I guess that's normal behaviour? Anyway that's why I'm replying to such an old comment.

A toggle for fog? A foggle?

[hollow rune]

Updated sheet

[toxic pumice]

thank you 😄

[hollow rune]

This panda girl has got you!

[prisma ivy]

Well that took a while to read between 12pm yesterday and now hah. That banding issue fix was neato

[oblique remnant]

Mickey's Speedway USA just crashed for the 2nd time randomly. As the last stages aren't difficult enough already 😄

[compact depot]

Are these random crashes regression?

[oblique remnant]

no don't think so. when I first tested this game It frooze just after few minutues. here we talking about hours

it still shows the 0000080 error and the drivers are visible sometimes through the walls not sure if that's also on original N64