Nintendo 64

[hollow rune]

It is also true we don't know how much some of these games are using the TLB, right? Maybe Goemon uses it when loading the game in or something

or like the dust in Paper Mario

[toxic pumice]

I know the current plan is for TLB to be last. Took a shot at a joke given how fast all other progression has been. 🙂

[desert crow]

yeah don't rush tlb because people want to play a few games. We have the most important mario 64 thanks to the patch and the whole rest of the library to enjoy

[toxic pumice]

'one playable game by christmas' indeed.

Payday on Friday so I'll be supporting via the patreon this week. Keep it up.

[hollow rune]

Anyone have an N64 game they want to see me play more in depth on stream tonight? I got my connection issues resolved last week. I will take a look at the sheet, but the testing seems pretty well covered. I was thinking maybe going deep on

• Harvest Moon 64
• Shadowgate 64

Or maybe I will take requests from other systems. @night saddle really surprised me last week with a Mega Drive game I knew nothing about

[toxic pumice]

Harvest Moon would be a good one. Not played that myself yet!

[fair stump]

How about Scooby Doo? Seems like an enjoyable game from the little I've played

[balmy carbon]

So the CPU is in theory slower, but that is offset by less time being spent waiting for data from memory which is faster (the DDR3). I guess this memory increase compared to original could somehow help with slowdowns in original games? If it the CPU was a fast as it should?

[wanton sun]

there are so many games that seem to be worth playing for some hours...have seen plenty in the past weeks i never knew before. Most will be in good shape hopefully when i'm done with Pokemon Stadium 😅

[fair stump]

Are you much of a sports game person?

[wanton sun]

yes, when CPU and RSP are developed to be at original speed, the RAM has to be slowed down, otherwise games will be too fast. But nothing prevents this from being an Turbo-Memory option

[balmy carbon]

I love Turbo options 😄

[grand turret]

Star Fox 64 is so fun wow thanks @wanton sun

[wanton sun]

i would expect the cpu write fifo + read interlock thing to increase CPU speed by 10-20% on average on top of what we currently have

but keep in mind it's only CPU. If a game is RDP limited, it will not get faster

[tulip coral]

Is the mister cpu clock speed currently the same as the N64?

[wanton sun]

yes

the cpu is only missing some features that will make it faster when they are implemented

they are not on the critical path, so should hopefully not be too much trouble

[chilly ember]

Shadowgate would be more interesting than harvest moon

[tulip coral]

Oh great, I remember a while back concern that cpu clocks may not be met so that’s fantastic the DE10 can support them

[wanton sun]

well, quartus rates the CPu at 80-85mhz depending on the build and we run it at 93mhz anyway

like a mild overclock. But quartus rating are for 100°C

and even then there is headroom

[tulip coral]

That’s great news then, thank you for the info 🙏

[toxic pumice]

It's nice to see the confidence level so high given progression going even better than expected.

[wanton sun]

i mean, in theory you could have a bad chip and not be able to run it stable. However, so far there was no report of anyone having a unstable game that was 100% stable for others. Given that Quartus ratings must cover 100% of all chips at extreme operation conditions, it makes sense that there is a lot of headroom

[toxic pumice]

I'm pretty sure there's been 0 reports of instability here?

[balmy carbon]

Does this mean we can overclock the a486 more ? 😄

[wanton sun]

no, the ao486 does this to the extreme already

quartus rates it at 50-60mhz and we run it at 90 or even 100

[balmy carbon]

Ohh

[toxic pumice]

ao486 runs syndicate, which is officially the only dos game that matters. 😉

That's a great core as well.

[wanton sun]

i had bad build of the n64 core with debug stuff that have been rated at only 70mhz for the cpu and still ran fine over many hours. But i would not upload those. For debug build i always want at least 80mhz rated, for official release 85mhz+ just to be safe

[tulip coral]

Does the de10 have a thermocouple in it? Is there any way of reading it’s temp to see how hot it gets?

[wanton sun]

no, but i think porkchop made some measurements and it was below 60°C even with passive cooling?

[toxic pumice]

Quite happy I bought mine with a noctua fan regardless

[tulip coral]

Aah that’s interesting

[craggy kettle]

I have a noctua fan as well. I used a 3d print at first, but now I use it on my ditigal io stack

[tulip coral]

It doesn’t pull much power (7w at the wall ish?) so it would surprise me if it could reach very high temps with a simple cooling solution

[wanton sun]

quartus estimates the n64 design (including scaler, but without ARM) at 1.3Watts

[toxic pumice]

1.3w

Lol

My laptop PSU in comparison is exactly 200x the power draw

[rich flicker]

huge, huge thanks FPGAzumSpass: I have been playing games I wanted to play for 20 years and were just displaying improperly when the real hardware failed (Japanese font display has always been a very low priority for N64 emulators ). They look so nice even on LCD

[fierce girder]

A real N64 uses 19W, interesting

[little socket]

one of the mister benefits is that it drastically cuts down the energy costs

[fair stump]

This update made japanese text look really nice
#1096015979055697940 message

[toxic pumice]

I think the one thing I've learned playing and trying more games out on this core, is exactly how off the mark magazine reviews were back in the day.

There's quite a few games I've tried that were absolutely smashed in publications, that I've had a hell of a time with.

[rich flicker]

Yes, Yakochu 2's incredibly smooth font took me by surprise when I gave it a whirl

[fair stump]

I know zero Japanese so the game unfortunately just isn't for me but I think it has my favorite n64 title screen

(Text looks funny because it was the old build)

[rich flicker]

This wonderful core just spoiled the whole Switch virtual console to me. Can't look back, and happy not to!

[lament escarp]

Thr switch virtual console spoiled the switch virtual console.

[chrome quest]

Don't think anyone ever shared an image of Stadium (2). Text looking beautiful.

[celest sierra]

looks so good

it's really noticeable how even current phone japanese games still follow that sort of "interface rules" somehow, it feels like those things were settled then

[chrome quest]

It's funny, without RTC Mystery gift doesn't crash surprisingly. It just lets you gift once, and only once since the day won't roll over. The time is pulled from the GB cart/save though, so surprised it works at all!
That whole feature is quite odd/interesting though

[little socket]

Unsure how to feel about that dithering, as it makes the output almost look like an rf signal

[chrome quest]

Think of it as artisanal film grain

[daring meteor]

I'm back to trying interlace lol

[versed cairn]

the dither pattern is pretty ugly on n64. wish we could use the psx dither. it's less distracting

or you know, get 24 bit color

but thats looking like a dream at this point

[thorn flax]

just use worse cables lol

[mortal panther]

I'll take that dithering over harsh color banding any day... if it's currently the only option available to address it.

[celest sierra]

maybe I didn't understand it correctly, but the weird lines you see there are because of the interlacing right? not dithering
I thought the dither+dedither pipeline is there to just add more colors

the bilinear smoothing filter though, it's the thing that makes it look unmistakably n64 to me

I mean, these things here are because of the interlacing

[zenith orchid]

it does improved perceived color depth, with the same limited amount of colors, yeah

[thorn flax]

yeah

[zenith orchid]

but this combination of dither+dedither only exists in N64 afaik

[thorn flax]

y'ever play a 480i game before? even on a crt you gonna get that effect

[empty cliff]

can anyone else get zelda gold to save

[thorn flax]

yeah

[daring meteor]

On the core on a CRT rn interlace doesn't work, I'm trying to fix it

[celest sierra]

yeah yeah, I know, the best we can hope is some 480p hack or something that hijacks the entire buffer before interlacing

[thorn flax]

all of them.
so check your database txt is up to date so you get the right save type

[latent hatch]

Is anyone planning to test the ZX Spectrum games on Goldeneye once the game is working?

[topaz otter]

Doesn't that require a pages worth of GameShark codes

[zinc dew]

Speaking of which, has anyone tried a GameShark?

[vagrant ivy]

I tried but it jumped the N64

[latent hatch]

Does it? I thought there was a romhack, but I think I might be wrong.

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/go-leave-me-alone-golden-girls-you-have-to-go-now-rose-gif-22287138

[hazy arch]

Hello! does the core support CRT output at this time?

[topaz otter]

This was my question earlier, what happens with the GameShark rom

I can straight dump a real GameShark 3.3rom if someone wants to test

I think I also have 3.2 and 2.2

[zenith orchid]

That game really does feel like a direct sequel to the SNES version. Instead of Elli being the nurse(BTN/FOMT), she's a baker who is the grand daughter of Ellen(from the SNES game). I don't know why BTN/FOMT had to really change everything up.

[deep beacon]

yes. if you are outputting via svideo or composite you'll need the y/c core. you can get the yc core by enabling their downloads in the menu options of update all

[brisk edge]

There was someone working on a translation within the last few years. Hopefully they manage to finish it

[chrome quest]

FYI the hand texture might not be interlaced related as there is a similar glitch in some Pokémon displays with patches missing. Either way, minor things I'm sure will be ironed out with time

[hazy arch]

I'm just using the good old fashioned VGA out on the IO board.

[compact skiff]

I've been using it on mine for quite some time and it looks solid, but I've read that some TVs are more finicky with the signal than others because it's not within spec.

[daring meteor]

Finally

I got a working interlace core

Works on both NTSC and PAL :3

[coral timber]

In that case you may be interested in trying a 240p 120hz video mode line in your .ini settings. Been working like a charm for me ever since Fullscreen aspect ratio support was added to the core.

[daring meteor]

For any analog users on RGB

[thorn flax]

testing now

[odd vector]

Glad my crt has an De-Interlacer, sadly cannot test the build right now

[coral timber]

Oh? I’d be interested to know what the output behaviour is like when it’s not interlaced as well.

If it’s possible to detect progressive and interface sources separately I can only wonder if it could be possible to make the output signal seperate too for 31KHz CRTs with 480i @ 120hz

But I’m probably getting ahead of myself, I don’t remember being able to do that on any other cores

[daring meteor]

On, what do you mean?

Interlace can be detected

[coral timber]

Well for example, rn since I’m using a 240p 120hz output signal in my ini, it converts everything to that, progressive adds interlaced become 240p

[hollow rune]

well scooby doo is like resident evil lol

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah
There is something like that on ao486

[coral timber]

I don’t think it’s possible to output different multiple resolution options based on the source is it?
I thought the .ini options were more limited than that

[daring meteor]

It is more limited, but for ao486 people figured out a way so it would work

[thorn flax]

yep, the interlaced picture on this seems rocks rocksolid stable, 10/25 is a bit more wobbly

[daring meteor]

Here you need to not lose sync while switching and I'm unsure you can do that

10/25 isn't interlaced technically, that's the bug fix lol

[chrome quest]

RBG SCART output onto a PAL CRT. PAL Stadium 2 looking stable. If there is any jitter at all it is so small as to be hard to see. Huge improvement on the latest build. Looks like original hardware to me (only cleaner)

[coral timber]

Do you know where I can learn more about this?

[daring meteor]

I'll PR this than, thank you

[chrome quest]

Random aside, but the errors are gone from Mystical Ninja 2. Still only boots after up to 2 logos, then crash, but interesting change.

[thorn flax]

perfectly legible

looks real nice

[daring meteor]

https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=2375

[daring meteor]

In my build?

[chrome quest]

Oh no, sorry. I was just testing before on composite. Same thing on your core as the latest 20231025 Core change. Or if not, somewhere since the 18th.

[thorn flax]

threw pokemon stadium 1/2 at it too looking good

[chrome quest]

Perhaps a canditate for another TLB game that might work despite that anyway

[fair stump]

I did notice a few error codes went away on tlb ones like mystical ninja and I think castlevania?

[thorn flax]

starcaraft looks very impressive ngl

[daring meteor]

PR sent :3

[hollow rune]

https://www.twitch.tv/rgw_panda
It is Retro Game Wizard time with me Panda. Join us as we play some N64 games on the MiSTer. Highlights will include, Scooby-Doo, Shadowgate, and maybe even some Harvest Moon.

[thorn flax]

so I fire up spiderman for a look. some 480i content, very cool, game starts.
"is that Jennifer hale?"
yep

commander Shepard herself

[chrome quest]

Got some odd error code behaviour here, if others can verify, or tell me this isn't odd at all.
NFL Quarterback Club 98 (Both NTSC and PAL).
After a fresh reboot of MiSTer, load game before anything else. ERROR 0008000 on boot.
Reset the rom. No E0008000 at all. Never seen this before I don't think....

[hazy arch]

appreciate it

[daring meteor]

(Mind you the 120hz is for PC monitors)

(If you're not using a PC monitor you don't need anything in the ini)

[solemn marlin]

Is the way VI works conducive to custom effects? Like, an "improved" dithering or something

Honestly, personally I have no idea how to improve on the vaseline, you can't fix perfection, but maybe some technically minded person can see how to do things differently

[hazy arch]

ah ok, I"m just using TV's. Will give it a try here soon

[coral timber]

Ah, likely won't be your use case then.
It's mainly to get real scanlines out of a modern signal type but that's not an LCD thing. My bad.

[chrome quest]

@wanton sun Noticed a change in a visual bug that's been around for a while, but changed only since the latest 20231025 core.
Flagging should it perhaps be useful as you work through RDP and such.
Top Gear Overdrive (Europe).
The flickering on Track Select has spread further across the screen. Otherwise the same, game playing fine, not a big issue at all. Just FYI

[weary beacon]

Very much better here! Using mister via scart in a TV!Very thanks!

[inner plume]

Not sure if it's been reported, but found an issue in SM64. The sub in Dire, Dire Docks is still here after collecting the star for Board Bowser's Sub, preventing the poles from appearing for Pole Jumping for 8 Red Coins. The underwater door also remains closed (I assume both events are tied to the same flag(s) in-game)

[rose elbow]

have u beaten bowser for that next stage?

[inner plume]

No

That's a requirement?

[rose elbow]

according to a google search ye lol

[inner plume]

I swear I've cleared this level before facing Bowser in the basement lol

But alright I'll see if that works

[rose elbow]

so long-ah bowser!

[languid ore]

I really thought he said so long gay Bowser when I was a kid

[mortal panther]

According to this, the sub should no longer be there.
https://www.ign.com/wikis/super-mario-64/Pole-Jumping_for_Red_Coins

[inner plume]

That's what it sounds like

Pretty sure it's "So long, eh, Bowser"

[mortal panther]

The voice actor confirmed that he was actually saying "So long, King-a Bowser"

[languid dune]

Just seeing Robert lab ideas about how he hopes to get TLB working is super interesting. Love to see it!

[inner plume]

There's just not enough syllables for "king-a"

[mortal panther]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[inner plume]

Anyways, I'll see if defeating Bowser works

[rose elbow]

yeah i saw that post go around again recently and i'm firmly in "long-ah" camp. i dont hear King at all aha

[mortal panther]

I probably posted it. 🙂

[inner plume]

But that ign page confirms my memories, in theory

[mortal panther]

I agree though

[rose elbow]

it's the original Yanny/Laurel

[solemn reef]

And Neil Armstrong insists he said "That's one small step for A man..." but what are you going to do.

[mortal panther]

He had a lot going on. Memory does funny things.

[vapid moat]

Wonder what games to test interlacing for, might want to test this

[inner plume]

Before I try beating bowser, backing up my save. Anyone know if the core .sav is compatible with Everdrive 64 x7?

Or do I need to convert/modify it for compatibility

[daring meteor]

NHL99
Majora's mask
Star wars (Racer and Naboo I think)
Starcraft

This is only for VGA out - Digital already works

[vapid moat]

Using VGA out for Analog RGB through SCART

[daring meteor]

Yeah so this is for you

[inner plume]

Alright, so after beating Bowser in the basement, the sub is gone as expected and the poles are going around. Still going to check if this is the same behavior on real hardware, because I don't remember beating Bowser being a requirement for the sub to disappear, only that you need to get the star on Bowser's sub

[solemn marlin]

Starcraft looks much better with it, I had no idea. The interlacing is mostly done on menus right?

[inner plume]

Not saying "I couldn't be wrong", guess just confirming my disbelief at this point

[brisk edge]

This is something we could probably find a definitive answer by looking at the decomp

[inner plume]

@brisk edge You talking to me or Jaha?

[void pawn]

Y/C support isn't in the core yet, is it?

[brisk edge]

You, or at least just in general lol but yeah, the Mario 64 decomp should hold the answer of the intended behavior

[solemn marlin]

Any 3d stuff affected by this?

[kind solar]

Someone said it was so long k. bowser

[inner plume]

Well, I was hoping I could just drop the .sav file on my ED64 and pick up at the same spot, figured it would be faster. But looks like the ED64 save files are in .eep format, so not quite sure how to convert that.

[stone moss]

dumb question: been using the transfer pak option to play some pokemon on pokemon stadium, is there any way to export/import that gameboy save file to play on my original gameboy in the meanwhile i'm not playing stadium?

[stone pilot]

It is a requirement. Otherwise, you have not yet ousted him from the basement.

[stone moss]

or the gameboy save file it's part of the n64 save file?

[brisk edge]

It should be the same, I was able to dump my DK64 save from a real cart and use it on my ever drive and the MiSTer without any conversion

[topaz otter]

we always thought this was what he was saying

because lets be honest, bowser is kind of gay

in the 90s middle school sense which is how we were using it

[chilly ember]

How big is the mister save file?

Did you have controller pak enabled and it made it bigger than 2 kb?

[brisk edge]

Oh also what version of Mario are you using? Just standard USA?

[chilly ember]

I had a perfect dark save that had the controller pak enabled so it was 130 kb but i used https://savefileconverter.com/#/flash-carts to shave it down to just eep

[inner plume]

On MiSTer, USA with the NoFace patch

[dense wagon]

Sorry if it's been asked and replied upon a million times but... where might one aquire the tlb patch for perfect dark? Or is it a self compile thing via the decompilation project?

[rose elbow]

theres a link in the pinned comments from Robby

[rose elbow]

#1096015979055697940 message

pulled from https://github.com/n64decomp/perfect_dark/tree/mods/performance

[inner plume]

So I was able to simply copy the .sav over to the ED64, and change the extension to .eep and it was able to read the save

And the sub is still there pre-Bowser

So I guess it's working as intended

Can't believe I haven't noticed this in 30ish years lol

[dense wagon]

Oh as always a bunch of legends 🙂

Thanks 🙂

[modern sleet]

Wait for the async module? Or check with Robert

This probably breaks HDMI?

I know the PSX core separates it

[chrome quest]

You can import/export the GB save from the N64 Stadium 1/2 sav file, but it needs to be done manually. The save system is not finalised, so don't feel to troubled by the complexity. I've no doubt the means will become easier over time, either with core changes or seperate tools. It is correctly not a priority for Robert, so for now this is the way.

Writing the below method as a record for myself if nothing else.
I'll happily convert a GB save into N64 for you if you'd like, but if you want to go back and forth, you'd need to know how to do it manually.

You'd need to be comfortable hex editing files.

Check the Stadium 1/2 file size. They should be 128KB, or 256KB if you've run the Transfer PAK before. The first 128KB is the N64 save, the second 128KB is for GB saves. For now, only the first 32KB section of that second half of 128KB is used for a single GB game save.
If your save is 128KB, then pad out to 256KB with "00"s.
To add the GB save, you want to paste the SAV data into that 32KB region (from offset 00020000 to 00027FF0 inclusive).
The GB save also needs to be endian swapped (not sure if it's little or big endian, but needs converting either way).
In linux you can use the command (thanks @daring meteor):
'hexdump -v -e '1/4 "%08x"' -e '"\n"' yellow_newgame_splitfromCore.sav | xxd -r -p > yellow_newgame_splitfromCore2.sav'
You need to swap the order of every group of 4 bytes, so:
8B 81 00 30 86 50 84 94 50 98 91 80
becomes
30 00 81 8B 94 84 50 86 80 91 98 50
After endian swapping the GB save, pasting into the N64 save, should work.
Easy...............

To go from N64 to GB, just the same in reverse. Copy the 32KB section out to it's own seperate file. Endian swap. Done.

[rose elbow]

here's an hour of very casual playing through Shotgun Mario 64 before hitting a crash (romhack crash i think, not a core crash) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwocbYXAI48&t=3465s

[thick terrace]

holy crap! Ready 2 Rumble 1&2 work now!

[stone moss]

Thanks for the through answer! Will try it on a day off

[worthy hull]

What's the best way to report a bug? I found out that the UI for Top Gear Rally is messed up.

[fair stump]

There's a test sheet in the channel pins that is updated with findings. Moondandy handles giving editing rights

[worthy hull]

Thanks!

[coral timber]

I noticed just now that when going into the bombers notebook in MM and the resolution swaps, inputs stop being recognised for a good 7 secs or so, is this normal? It happens with the current test core as well.

[orchid nimbus]

very cool 😄 lol

[rose elbow]

the crash is funny as. getting wacked by the eel

[thorn flax]

yep, depends on your tv

set the MiSTer ini video output to triple buffer for a smother 240p/480i transition

[orchid nimbus]

@rose elbow you just apply the no face mod to the shotgun mod?

[rose elbow]

nah, the shotgun mod just doesn't have the face intro by default

[dusty tusk]

vsync_adjust=1
Is a pretty good jack of all trades as far as resolution switching is concerned

[orchid nimbus]

oh nice

patched 🙂 will play it

[compact depot]

Any patch available that removes TLB from Conkers?

[kind solar]

You can shoot that fucking eel I’m in

[chilly ember]

I'm more interested in shooting the monkey

[chilly ember]

I don't believe so, I don't think that game ever even got a rom hack

[orchid nimbus]

hjahaha

br0k3 it

@rose elbow it's a nice hack but pretty unstable for now

[coral timber]

Aah, I don't think tripple buffering works with the 240p 120hz modeline, hm...

[void pawn]

On the current core from downloader, the analog stick range is great on both my NSO controller and also on Xbox controllers

But this iconic duo has like double the range, so it's feeling super super sensitive (it hits the axis max of plus/mins 85 when you're halfway to the octagonal gate)

[rose elbow]

that was fast ahahaha

[chilly ember]

Ooh Wii classic controller. Been a while since I seen one of those

[orchid nimbus]

I got 2 here

[tidal glade]

that is the pro classic controller

[chilly ember]

I have a black one I haven't used for like 10 years

I got one of those weird Wii u ones too

[orchid nimbus]

@iron dove 😄

[void pawn]

afaik pro is just the exact same controller with a grip built in

[fair stump]

Panda and another person I know have also mentioned their controllers still feel too sensitive

One is the ds3

[void pawn]

Wii Pro (or SNES classic or NES classic) plugged into a Gbros plugged into a mister was tested at 6.x ms latency, not bad

this works with the core for controller range/sensitivity testing

https://github.com/Ryzee119/n64_controller_test/releases/tag/build-202008190836

but I could tell immediately in F-Zero X that it was way sensitive (small usable range)

FWIW this is also a great way to play Mario Wonder (gbros + Classic or SNES Classic)

[chilly ember]

Found mine but no gbro to test with. Do you need a gbro to make it work with mister?

[chrome quest]

My Classic Classic (non pro), doubt that makes much difference.
Very rough analog test, looks great, feels great too.

I believe some of the finer details on the stick fix were improved. Your just on downloader/update_all?
Try the latest unstable MiSTer. That should make things a lot better

[gritty current]

I think release mister main should have the n64 controller fixes now

so no reason to grab unstable for that

[kind solar]

That’s odd it doesn’t do that for me

[chrome quest]

What date is latest MiSTer though?

[void pawn]

Yes

[gritty current]

Latest release is 20231018

[void pawn]

I will try that. Later.

Thanks. I will report back.

[gritty current]

Most recent N64 controller fix was on Oct 15th

[void pawn]

Probably can run it through a Wii remote and use Bluetooth?

[chrome quest]

Are you sure? I'm just checking the news channel, and I've not used update_all in a while personally, but been a while since I saw a post that MiSTer main was updated, unless there is a link to it?

[gritty current]

I'm not sure about the news channel or how that works. I'm looking at the commits: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/commits/master

and releases: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/tree/master/releases

[zinc dew]

he knows too much…

[chrome quest]

I really don't know if that reflects what downloader pulls. Easy check, if you've run update all, check date on the MiSTer file.

But if it has a recent update, then my idea won't make a difference

[zinc dew]

[gritty current]

update_all might be delayed... idk

[zenith orchid]

I'm loving Doom64 so much. It really should have been Doom 3 back in the day

[fair stump]

My understanding was stable has had the updated stick code for some time

[zinc dew]

It wasn’t done by the DOOM team so it wasn’t allowed

is my guess anyways, I didn’t ask about that lol

[zenith orchid]

Final Doom also used original assets, by Team TNT

But yeah, missed opportunity

the team that did Doom64 really did it justice

even though they left out some enemies

[fair stump]

But like I said, I know two people with the latest that still feel like their sticks are a bit sensitive

[inner plume]

If I had to guess they called it Doom 64 because that's what many other franchises did with their N64 releases

Tacked on "64" to the end of the title

[zenith orchid]

Megaman 64 for instance

[inner plume]

Super Mario 64

Starfox 64

Megaman 64 like you pointed out

[zenith orchid]

basically same game as Megaman legends

[inner plume]

I haven't played Legends but that's my understanding is it's the same game

[zenith orchid]

So Doom64 could've been called something else on other platforms

[inner plume]

Potentially, but I don't think it was released on any other platforms until more recently, and by now it's just "Doom 64"

[chilly ember]

Superman 64 isn't actually isn't even called superman 64, it's Superman: The New Superman Adventures but everyone calls it superman 64 anyways

[zenith orchid]

exactly

Doom64 genuinely feels like a classic Doom experience gameplay wise

[chilly ember]

Same exact thing but worse framerate and more compressed audio

[inner plume]

Yeah it feels like a damn good level pack

[inner plume]

Makes sense due to cart sizes

Still insane how they got RE2 to run on the N64

Watched a video a while back, guess they worked some black magic to compress the assets enough to fit on the cart

[chilly ember]

I kinda wish the other two resident evil games got ported to N64 with the same treatment but I can understand why they didn't

[inner plume]

Doesn't sound like it was an easy endeavor

[zinc dew]

it’s ok, we got em on da Cube

[inner plume]

I wish we had MGS on N64

[zinc dew]

it’s ok we got dat on da Cube

[inner plume]

Well, back then, anyways. I've played it enough by now 😄

[chilly ember]

I wish the resident evil zero prototype got leaked for n64 so we could look at that

[zinc dew]

I saw it in-person and played the eternal darkness n64 prototype

[inner plume]

Nice

[chilly ember]

I never even realised eternal darkness was originally for N64 up until recently

[dense wagon]

I actually have this exact problem with an N64 styled USB controller, it reaches the max at about 50% of the rotation, makes stuff feel a bit twitchy

[fair stump]

If it was on any other console would it just be called "Quest"

Quest DS for sure

[inner plume]

Quest 64 gets a worse rap than it deserves

[chilly ember]

Where are the other 63 quest games??

[inner plume]

I get it was a disappointment due to its hype at the time, but as a kid I didn't know any of that

I just liked the game

[zenith orchid]

anyone tried this:
https://github.com/9nova/wolf64

[inner plume]

I haven't, honestly never really jived with wolf3d back in the day

[rose elbow]

Quest 64 (Holy Magic Century in Europe, Australia and New Zealand

someone already made the executive decision that Quest was a dumb name

[inner plume]

Now if someone ported ROTT to N64 I would totally be down for that

[brisk edge]

Eat lead

[dense wagon]

ah i take it i need to add the modded perfect dark to the database

[chilly ember]

Or load regular perfect dark first

[brisk edge]

^ yeah that's the other quick way

But I'd probably just add an entry to the user database file so you don't have to do that every single time

[iron dove]

That duck speaks the truth 🙂

[dreamy grove]

Trying to play perfect dark after 10 years of PC gaming is an experience

I don't remember the N64 controls being so unintuitive

[dense wagon]

oh loading the other PD... kinda presets things?

cool

good to know

[eternal ravine]

@inner plume
Shroom and Dog modes

[latent hatch]

I can tell you that one of them is on Game Boy Color.

[zinc dew]

That one is alright

[chilly ember]

Oh yea I forgot about that one

[inner plume]

I haven't finished it but Brian's Quest is more fleshed out story-wise

[iron dove]

ive got 35 stars or so, crashed 3 or 4 times

[solemn marlin]

Try out 2 sticks controls, they're just like modern fps controls

[orchid nimbus]

Oh I did eveything in my power to make it crash 😄

[solemn marlin]

It's not m+kb pc gaming but I don't think the game would be fun if you had that much precision, way too easy

[iron dove]

🙂 in jolly roger bay, swimming through the rings in front of the underwater cave entrance and and collecting the 1up that spawns seems to do it pretty reliably

[chilly ember]

There is a perfect dark pc port now, last I checked it wasn't perfect tho.

[iron dove]

i love that you can just shoot the giant eel and it goes into an upwards death spiral

[solemn marlin]

How ironic 🧐 the game looks and plays great like that but there's still the question of difficulty

The game is fundamentally designed for a wonky controller

[chilly ember]

I only ever finished perfect dark on perfect agent on the xbla version

I wanna say even that version has some wonky control issues. Gotta dial in the sensitivity in the options

[solemn marlin]

You've had the chance to compare it with the 2 sticks option on the core? I guess they're about the same

[chilly ember]

I can play without auto aim on the xbla version but on N64 I leave the auto aim on. I haven't tried the dual analog hack yet

[solemn marlin]

Oh okay yea auto aim needs to be off to adjust for the increased precision

[chilly ember]

I've been religiously using my 8bitdo kit for the core so I haven't had a dual analog controller at the ready to try it yet. I'll get around to eventually. I got turned off on perfect dark because the patched version is bugged anyways so I haven't touched it much since I discovered that

Wonder if the guy will ever fix it. Looks abandoned

Now that we have pc ports available, he might not even care now

Which is a shame because it runs better than vanilla

Can't open an issue on the Github and I have no clue where he hangs out to even try and track him down 😂

[vague cedar]

The Turok style controls were the best way to play GoldenEye and PD back in the day. Closest thing to modern control method with C-buttons for movement. Probably why I still use inverted controls to this day 🫣

[solemn marlin]

Was it a performance patch thing? It's funny that someone has patched out the thing that doesn't work on the core but for a different reason I assume

[chilly ember]

I have c movement burned into my mind from N64 fps games but I don't use inverted. Forced Inverted on N64 doesn't bother me tho

[chilly ember]

It loads all the rooms into memory or something like that so I assume that's why the bug occurs on Carrington institute. The room is loaded so it can't make the necessary change for the skedar to spawn the ship that holds the bomb

[vapid hawk]

has anyone reported it on his github?

[chilly ember]

I would have if there I was able to report the issue

[dusty tusk]

Doom 64's title was actually chosen as the first map would have been the 64th map in the complete final doom trilogy. Final Doom having maps 0-31 and 32-63 respectively

[vague cedar]

I have a Raphnet N64 > GameCube adapter that allows custom mapping to pretty much whatever. Can map C buttons to the analog stick, and joystick to the C-stick. Basically play GE or PD as a modern FPS. No option to Invert Y axis though

[chilly ember]

No tab for issues or whatever so I can't report it

[solemn marlin]

I don't understand why someone would patch that out tho, what compelled him to mess with the way perfect dark stores certain data (something like that)

Is it a big performance boost?

[chilly ember]

Better frame rate

Probably didn't play far enough to notice it was an issue for the specific level

[elfin depot]

Plays great (both Spear and Wolf3d)

[chilly ember]

Chex quest 64 when?

[solemn marlin]

Right.. could the core ignore tlb stuff if it was all in place? I mean, doing what the patch is doing but inside the core

Probably not

[chilly ember]

Probably not

[solemn marlin]

There should be more 64 stuff, like homebrew ports, every old pc game would work better

It's probably the best way to play doom right now

On the mister I mean

[orchid nimbus]

quest 64

what!!!

it's no longer banned

[solemn marlin]

You're on a list now

[chilly ember]

Location is holland confirmed

[rose elbow]

quest 64 is allowed but the emoji is gone.. was it worth it

OH, we already have one. ok not bad not bad LOL

[chilly ember]

Nah, thats mine

[zenith orchid]

You know, that should work on 64doom. I believe Chex Quest 1 and 2 were made for vanilla doom

[zenith orchid]

sweeeeet

[chilly ember]

I wouldn't be surprised

[elfin depot]

It plays really well actually, and has a cheats menu and everything

[zenith orchid]

64doom should in theory be able to play all vanilla doom mods

[zenith orchid]

so it just plays right out the gate? no modifying the database file?

[elfin depot]

No, I got a quick error popup in the top right corner (the game might not be in database) but it plays just fine

[zenith orchid]

Ah, I wonder if it saves and loads, and if the saves are retained

alright I'm downloading them now

apparently it uses sram

[elfin depot]

Load game and save game are greyed out for me but I don't have a memory card in

[chilly ember]

Are you a snac purist?

Does the core support controller Paks over snac now?

[zenith orchid]

save game corrupted, when I try to load

[zinc dew]

Yup

[elfin depot]

Same, using SNAX

[chilly ember]

Niiice, I kinda assumed with transfer Pak supported but it's hard to keep up here if you don't pay attention for a few hours

[elfin depot]

Stereo sound in Wolf3d is really good!

[zenith orchid]

yeah I'm so impressed by how this plays

[solemn marlin]

Oh wait that's the kind of port I was thinking about, that's so cool

Had to do a double take before I realized that wolfenstein 3d is way too old for 64

[desert crow]

might want to check the save type, I could see a homebrew doing something weird.

[chilly ember]

Lots of those everdrive patches change the save type so I wouldn't be surprised

[solemn marlin]

Does this mean that every doom .wad is on the table? 🤔

[chilly ember]

Maybe the really old ones

[zenith orchid]

Oh, you gotta set the save type to SRAM32

[elfin depot]

I only tested the shareware versions (wolf.z64), not sure I'm up the the libdragon build your own adventure to make the full verisions, if anyone has done so let me know

[solemn marlin]

I know shit about doom wads, someone should try building a cool one and see if it works

[zenith orchid]

and by the way there are so many map packs and TCs for wolf3d

[chilly ember]

That's what has stopped me from building any of those ports, I'm lazy and don't wanna fuck around

[elfin depot]

Awesome! Thanks

[solemn marlin]

Or just building normal doom, would be cool having both

[desert crow]

yeah when someone mentioned sram that's on the cart and is different from the cpak. i kind of figured the core wasn't detecting the right thing

[solemn marlin]

Or if they look different, I assume that doom 64 is a bit spicier with the lighting

[chilly ember]

Doom 64? More like perfect dark (ness)

[elfin depot]

Yeah I installed the version with all the nightdive improvements, much more playable now

[zinc dew]

Ooooohhhhh

[solemn marlin]

I've already played it on pc but so fun having it back at the 64 again, with the new maps as well

[elfin depot]

Here goes (likely nothing, since I dunno what Im doing)

[elfin depot]

Its fantasic, played through it on the switch, but now I can try it with the SNAX original N64 controller

[solemn marlin]

Build it, you could even make your own cartridges out of doom wads tbh, hundreds of new n64 games

[elfin depot]

Nope, bunch-o-errors

[solemn marlin]

Boo

[elfin depot]

boo indeed

[zenith orchid]

permission denied huh

are you running in admin mode?

[solemn marlin]

Wish I knew anything about building github stuff but I'm too dull sadly enough

[zenith orchid]

I gotta say this wolf3d port runs beautifully

[elfin depot]

Yes, elevated command prompt

few errors went away when I moved the folder to system32

(this is a test machine so doesn't matter what i do to it)

[orchid nimbus]

nuke it with a low orbit laser

[elfin depot]

controls are immediatly intuitive, just jump in and play. Really fun, hope to figure out the full version

[zenith orchid]

please let me know when this gets figured out. I want to try modded wolf3d as well, like astrostein 😄

[chilly ember]

Throw it in a river

[elfin depot]

I don't belive in littering

[chilly ember]

I didn't say leave it there :p

[elfin depot]

thats just baptisum

[chilly ember]

Might be good for Wolfenstein but not doom

[fair stump]

THPS2 done

Bunch of references to a fire happening in the credits and a fire department?

[elfin depot]

no errors! now to figure out the rest

and more to figure out

[chilly ember]

No capture card footage? 😦

[fair stump]

I'm finishing streaming it so I'll highlight it 😆

[chilly ember]

Yay

[mellow raft]

What the. Did they set their studio on fire?

[fair stump]

N64 credits are strange. Like how Shadows of the Empire refers to Tim Shafer as The Raccoon King

[rose elbow]

environmental storytelling

[zinc dew]

Can you name every game?

[rose elbow]

i thought the dinosaur was Rex from Toy Story for a few seconds there

Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue

[fair stump]

yes

[inner plume]

I think that's supposed to be from Turok but I agree it kind of looks like Rex

[rose elbow]

dont think im spotting any skeletons on motorcycles

[void pawn]

So you are using it with gbros? In xinput mode?

Latest gbros firmware?

[kind solar]

not sure on firmware

but yes

[iron dove]

the tag on the great mighty poo singing plush doll is a piece of corn, nice touch 🙂

[kind solar]

@void pawn

[iron dove]

I think pretty much all controllers report as perfect now that the clamping stuff is in stable main

[chilly ember]

Jet force gemini, majora's Mask, turok, blast corps, wave race, Kirby 64, super smash bros, f zero, banjo kazooie, star fox, goemon, mario kart 64, Goldeneye, mischief makers, super mario 64, conkers bad fur day, harvest moon, worms, winback and Zelda ocarina of time

[rose elbow]

winback was the only one i wasn't sure on

[chilly ember]

It's either that or mission impossible and my money is on winback

[rose elbow]

i'm still choosing to believe that's the turok guy blasting away rex from Toy story and i dont care what anyone says!!!

[void pawn]

And you have to move it all the way by the restrictor gate before it hits plus/minus 85

[kind solar]

yea

[void pawn]

Hm

What test program is that

[iron dove]

https://github.com/sanni/controllertest/raw/master/N64-Port/controllertest.v64
Theres another one that's meant to be better

but it crashes intermittently

with the range clamping in main, you'll likely get a good result in that test with any (non-snac) controller

that test rom does have other tests that let you check the travel/deadzone
https://github.com/wermipls/mimi is the other test rom that is better but crashes randomly

[mossy needle]

The only controller that is gor some reason not working at all is the Hori n64 controller

[storm vessel]

I really should try mine (though I think the analog stick needs replacing or grease)

Say, wanted to check but, is there a version of F-Zero DD that can save the custom tracks? Or is that a core feature not implemented yet?

[hazy arch]

I'm getting a black screen when loading roms, what causes that?

im on the latest test build

E0000040

[iron dove]

do you have the N64-database.txt, boot.rom and boot1.rom in \games\N64

[hazy arch]

I dont have a txt file, I'll look into that, thanks

[iron dove]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_ROM_Database/blob/main/N64-database.txt

right-click the 'raw' button and save link from there

the db tells the core which CIC lockout chip, save type etc each game uses

[hazy arch]

Still getting black screen, do only some roms work?

[iron dove]

most work, what game?

[hazy arch]

none of them load

[iron dove]

its mostly games that use the TLB feature (goldeneye, conker etc) that dont load at all

[quaint copper]

Is there a way to configure controls specifically for N64? My Switch Pro seems to only configure with the SNES-style layout on the main menu for Mister

[iron dove]

do you have the latest main, and did update_all get the boot.rom/boot1.rom files for you or did you add them manually?

@quaint copper you just need to map what you're prompted for in main, then map all the N64 specific buttons within the core

[hazy arch]

I have the latest test build & found the boot rom at the usual place we dont mention here

[iron dove]

hmm, perhaps delete the boot.rom files and let update_all (with bios DB enabled) download them again

[quasi storm]

Check your PMS @hazy arch

[quaint copper]

Thank you for the reply! Was this a recent feature? I don't see a config menu on the n64 core menu in-game

But I downloaded it from #test-builds just yesterday

[iron dove]

in the core, open OSD and press right

'define n64 buttons' option 🙂

[quaint copper]

OH there's more to the menu! Thank you!

[iron dove]

no probs, that right hand menu has the option to save settings, configure video processing etc

[zenith orchid]

Progress is good!

[iron dove]

lol, if you shoot the baby penguin in shotgun mario it sends you flying off the level to your death

[iron dove]

and the rabbit bounces off the walls like crazy

[daring meteor]

PSX core separates but stuff like genesis doesn't

If someone can test it you can try

[daring meteor]

Ah wait someone already used it with VGA Scaler, it should be fine than

[vapid moat]

I AM TUROK

BTW I tried to import saves again for Majora's Mask using that srm to sav-script I was given but it doesn't seem to do dice - IDK what's MM's regular save size supposed to be but I'm guessing it's not 32kb like OOT?

@manic basin

[daring meteor]

128kb

[manic basin]

Yeah, that was just a quick and dirty script for a specific import. I'm hoping N64 gets added to the online mister save converter.

[chilly ember]

128 kb for flash

[manic basin]

I wasn't even aware it existed until a few days ago. https://savefileconverter.com/#/mister

[chilly ember]

I gave the guy my save files a while ago for him to look at to maybe add official n64 mister support

[manic basin]

Noice!

[vapid moat]

Doesn't have N64-option in the dropdown menu tho

[chilly ember]

You can't save a flash type save as a eeprom or vice versa

[manic basin]

Like I said, hoping it gets added.

[dusty tusk]

So in theory, somone could make a save with a gameshark code enabled and use it on the core

[chilly ember]

In theory

If it works right

[chrome quest]

Having trouble getting dual controller to work, is method correct.
On MAIN MiSTer level map everything, left and right stick.
In N64 core map buttons, ensuring no buttons are mapped to either stick.
Set Dual Controller, Analog Swap. Then boot the ROM (Testing with patched PD that had worked dual perfect while this was being trialed).
Anything obvious I'm missing?

All pads set to N64pad too so they are plugged in

[daring meteor]

Are you using mister unstable

[dusty tusk]

You made sure the last stick is mapped at the veeeery end of the mister mapping? People tend to skip that one alot

[chrome quest]

I am on unstable. Perhaps I'm out of date then, simple thing, thank you!

Update_all time

Is there any requirements on using unstable any more?
Was the "new" database version added to main?

[daring meteor]

You need unstable newer than 16 of oct to use the controller options

It is on main naturallyu

[chrome quest]

Working now, thanks very much for the obvious pointer I'd missed.
update_all pulled MiSTer dated 18th Oct 👍

[daring meteor]

Oh right yeah that version works too

Both for database and remap

[chrome quest]

Just need to check what happened with database out of curiosity, but whatever it pulled is working perfectly

[compact skiff]

🦗

[compact skiff]

What exactly will fastload do to speed up loading a rom? Wasn't this also implemented in the GBA core?

[empty cliff]

he was chatting pure shit, there's no way he even remembered a 20 year old recording session and there's zero chance it says "kinga"

so long, eh bowser!

[solemn marlin]

I think he said so long-a bowser which is just that lazy italian impersonation (bake-a da pizza, make-a da spaghetti) and he was a bit embarrassed about it

[native mesa]

He should be haha

[solemn marlin]

Yea I think a lazy italian impersonation is funny but "so long-a" doesn't feel accurate even if you're exaggerating, that's why he tried explaining it away with king-a

[mortal panther]

Or, did he say 'king' in Italian?

[solemn marlin]

I think it'd be out of character for mario to speak any real italian besides mama mia

[zinc dew]

Whether we like it or not Martinet gave an official explanation but we’re still free to come up with our own interpretation.

[mortal panther]

Exactly. I'll trust the words of the man himself who voiced the character. Anything could have happened during the transition of that audio clip to the cartridge.

[topaz otter]

considering that literally anyone can imitate the mario voice, they probably re-recorded it and didn't tell him

[mortal panther]

If anything, he's probably misremembering 'king' as 'kinga'.

[chilly ember]

Or 90's Japan was so bad with English voice actors that Martinet slipped a good one in to make his career worth it

Suck it Nintendo

[topaz otter]

he's probably just saying, "So long, eh, Bowser?"

but martinet probably did five hundred takes

its true she did

[solemn marlin]

Charles is obviously a pro and I think there's more nuance in there than people give him credit for, especially with the way he leaned into different traits with waluigi and wario

[topaz otter]

but my mom looks weird when she wears marios mustache

[lament escarp]

I always understood him to comment on bowsers sexual orientation, which I thought to be a bit unnecessary.

[solemn marlin]

Just saying I think he did the lazy italian -a thing for a word that doesn't really work

[chilly ember]

If I was Martinet, I'd do the same

[topaz otter]

so he was actually saying so long gay bowser?

but how did mario know

[chilly ember]

Martinet, marry net, it's a play on words. Mario holds the net

[topaz otter]

i mean he has a child

or is bowser jr adopted

I can't remember

[kind solar]

the existence of gay bowser implies the existence of straight bowser

[solemn marlin]

He was really into fleshing out the character of mario and hinting at his italian catholic upbringing and some casual homophobia would make a lot of sense

[topaz otter]

I hate that they retconned the koopa kids as not his actual kids

[chilly ember]

Bowser told his son that his mother was peach on super mario sunshine so nothing is too far fetched

Was he lying?

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/the-x-files-txf-x-files-dana-scully-scully-gif-27626850

the truth is out there

[solemn marlin]

It's like with donald duck not being the father of huey, dewey and louie, it's weird

They should show donald duck having sex

[zealous hull]

every copy of mario 64 is personalized

we each have slightly different voice lines in our cart

[zinc dew]

ohhhhh kaaaaay

[zealous hull]

I think Imma take a break from Discord for the day

[zinc dew]

A cool Donal Duck game is Goin Quackers for the N64

[inner plume]

Rayman 2.3: Goin' Quackers

[chilly ember]

Rayman 2.4 trains edition

[chilly ember]

That's missing the Id logo

[solemn marlin]

I got that with a cereal box, not the n64 version tho

[broken cradle]

He has like 9 kids

[chilly ember]

And he places all his koopa kids before his castle

[broken cradle]

Wait what

[broken cradle]

Yeah that man sacrifices all his kids lol

[chilly ember]

https://youtu.be/_bE3PCRHq-A?si=3Ns4gKAmCE1iRUpi

[solemn marlin]

I heard the going quackers n64 version had a bunch of problems with the music, something someone fixed just recently with a rom hack

[broken cradle]

Also impossible the word is king because there isn't even a hint of a k sound in the phrase

[inner plume]

I'm pretty sure the line is "So long, eh, Bowser?"

[broken cradle]

Could be so long a bowser like others mentioned like how in m64 he says its a me a mario

[inner plume]

Phonetically, it sounds like "So long gay Bowser"

I know what Martinet said but there's no way he's saying "king-a", not enough spoken syllables

[deft tree]

im honestly suprised this number is as low as it is

[wanton sun]

yes, originally it comes from the neogeo core. The HPS is writing the rom to ddr3 instead of using the slow HPS bus. Then the core has to take care of copying it from ddr3 to sdram before it can run

[broken cradle]

We still cooking give it time, by final core release we will hit 1k I'm sure

[daring meteor]

Robert did you see the interlace fix I did

[wanton sun]

no sorry, i think you implemented the half line vsync?

[daring meteor]

Yeah, and the line alternation needed

[solemn marlin]

Didn't even know it was a problem but the starcraft menu looks super crisp now on my crt

[wanton sun]

i didn't do it for the sync module to have equal length frames for easier debugging. async module will have it

[daring meteor]

Ahhhh, that's why

[wanton sun]

but if your version works, we can also take it now, it's not like i have to debug much interlaced stuff anyway

[fair stump]

better?

[chilly ember]

Yes

[daring meteor]

For debugging you can stub the vsync_hstart condition and leave it constant (If you make a seperate debug build)

Oh yeah and vtotal

[wanton sun]

i would merge it tomorrow, currently working on something else, ok?

[chilly ember]

Hype

[wanton sun]

and thank you for testing it with CRTs 🙂

[solemn marlin]

I'd still like to know what's interlaced, is it only 2d stuff like menus and the bomber book in mm?

[chilly ember]

I'm happy I got the secret tlb core for completing superman 64 so I'm all good

[grave garnet]

im trying to get perfect dark control to work like a modern twin stick. if i try to make up/down/left/right to my right hand analog it doesn't seem to work at all, has anyone gotten perfect dark to map to a modern twin stick? if so how

[solemn marlin]

You have to change core settings, swap sticks and the map player 2 to player 1

[wanton sun]

and use unstable main

[daring meteor]

There is Star wars

[solemn marlin]

Racing? With the 3d stuff?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[daring meteor]

Alrighty, very good

[daring meteor]

There was a release on 18 october, no need for unstable

[grave garnet]

ok mister has been updated to unstable. @solemn marlin i see the swap sticks which i turned on, what is the "map player 2 to player 1" part?

i see "dual controller" which has p1->p2

[solemn marlin]

That one

Then you need 2.2 control style in game and it should work

[grave garnet]

i would have never figured this crap out lol thank you guys esp Robert for this wonderful core

wish it still wasn't so funky but i guess this is the best we are gonna get

[daring meteor]

There's also invert view that you can toggle

[grave garnet]

yeah i did that as well, its just im obviously used to having the aiming in the middle and it moves the aiming then moves the character

[zinc dew]

Robert is here, let’s please try to stay on-topic. Thank you very much.

[solemn marlin]

Are the controls funky? I thought they were good 🤔

I mean, as good as pd has ever been ig

[minor fog]

How can I get the no face patched sm64 to save?

[daring meteor]

It should save fine

[minor fog]

It’s coming up as no save type in the system menu

I’m gonna try eeprom4

[daring meteor]

Its one eeprom, forgot which

You got n64 database?

[mortal panther]

This file (N64-database.txt) needs to be located in your /Games/N64 folder:
https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_ROM_Database

[prisma ivy]

Flaming elbows? This is making me picture Macho Man doing his flying elbow while its on fire. What game is this credits scene from?

[fair stump]

THPS2

[topaz otter]

yep according to post sunshine mario lore, the koopa kids are just worshippers of bowser and his only actual child is bowser jr

also when mario makes yoshi shoot his tongue out, mario is actually pointing and not punching yoshi in the back of the head

and there's a third mario brother named Pepino who wears orange but he's been canonically dead since 1989

[zinc dew]

THPS fans, should I play the N64 versions over PS1?

[kind solar]

i've been playing both and the n64 feels better to me

the first one has more polish maybe

[pallid moth]

maybe I haven't seen the answer before but why do we need this database file? Certain roms only run if this file is in that game folder?

[thorn flax]

if only a rom hack to insert higher quality audio existed

best of both worlds

[plush summit]

PSX because music/FMVs

[toxic pumice]

Multiple reasons - Things like CIC chip and save type differ a lot between games. As part of N64 copy protection if the right game wasn't paired with the right CIC chip then it wouldn't load at all

[plush summit]

Just avoid playing THPS3 on PSX/N64

[zinc dew]

Oh damn, how come?

[toxic pumice]

so the .txt file is basically a database of which game needs to be paired with which CIC chip and what kind of save type it used, to make sure it can run and the game can actually save properly

[plush summit]

WHY? It's a GC/PS2 game, friggin masterpiece

[zinc dew]

Yeah but I don’t got GameCube on my Meeeester Eff-Pee-Gee-Ayyy

[orchid nimbus]

Why you making fun of my accent?

[plush summit]

When THPS3 came out on Sixth gen, its one of the games I'd consider close to a perfect 10

[kind solar]

i can't get used to using the stick on gc

[plush summit]

Use Dolphin with a PS controller 😛

[zinc dew]

Ok I hear ya, and believe ya. How much of an inferior experience is it on PS1?

[plush summit]

Pretty sure the engine is completely different on PSX/64

The entire point of THPS3 is the new engine on Sixth gen

[zinc dew]

Makes sense

Thank you!

[kind solar]

it looks very bland on ps1

like they just made an attempt to port the levels into the old engine

bit like sega cd road rash

[plush summit]

Yeah, they clearly just used THPS2's engine with tweaks

[kind solar]

also has some missing songs

[plush summit]

Let that be a reminder for everyone else, 6th Gen THPS3 or else 🤗

[zinc dew]

What about THPS4?

[plush summit]

same, not as good as THPS3, but keep it 6th Gen

[zinc dew]

Well damn

[vagrant ivy]

Oh Doom64 on PC is on sale at Steam it was £1.37

in case anyone wants the PC version

[marble cargo]

So has anyone verified that the NSO N64 controller has a bug where the directional pad is glitched and keeps interpreting the up input as down no matter what?

[mortal panther]

In the N64 core's System Settings menu, there are several different options for CIC type, save type, etc... but at the top of that menu there is also an option for automatically detecting those settings. When enabled (which is the default setting), it uses the contents of the N64-database.txt file to automatically configure each of those settings based on the game you have loaded.

The N64-database.txt file now has far fewer per-game entries, since a different method of auto-detection has been baked in to the MiSTer main binary, so make sure that is up-to-date as well.

[vagrant ivy]

works fine for me with no such issue

[mortal panther]

Nope, not me. Wired or wireless?

I've only used mine via USB, for what it's worth.

[vagrant ivy]

I only use mine on BT

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun Noticed that performance in the core is better for Daikatana. It’s minor but feels like 3 - 5 frames better.

Checking out the game on my N64 and it’s more choppy.

[marble cargo]

Hard to believe that it's only my controller that specifically has issues with only the Nintendo 64 core.

That is so extremely specific that there has to be a bug somewhere.

[zinc dew]

Also the core handles Daikatana’s high-res mode perfectly now. The game is adequately letterboxed and has a smaller window just like on a real CRT.

[mortal panther]

To be fair, I haven't used the NSO N64 controller that much ever since I got the Brawler 64.

[loud pebble]

Been using the NSO alot and haven't had any problems.

[vagrant ivy]

if I remember its easy to set the Dpad up wrong. I do remember getting it backwards like that when I set the controller up, but then I redid it and its fine

[mortal panther]

So, Robert made Daikatana a good game now? He is a miracle worker! 😉

[zinc dew]

I unironically enjoy the N64 version. Playing it on the core now.

[loud pebble]

That tv is so big!

I'm scared

[fair stump]

When it comes to there being a finite amount of logic elements on the mister and the core taking up 80%+ and being unable to fit certain features how would you explain that to a normal person?

[zinc dew]

It’s a stupid and basic little first person shooter. Without the companions it’s a much easier game. They also greatly simplified level geometry so it’s a lot easier to navigate.

[loud pebble]

It's triggering my megalophobia!

[zinc dew]

You have a pint of N64 beer but only a 12 oz mister FPGA cup to pour it into.

[mild ether]

Finally got to test out the new core and Dr Mario is perfect!

[zinc dew]

Really?

[kind solar]

https://youtu.be/pH-fR9InxAE

this clip made me think of robert fitting n64 onto mister

[loud pebble]

No need for concern just goofing around😄

[zinc dew]

Oh ok, I was going to delete it if true lol

But here you go, small CRT!

[fair stump]

Betraying mister for real hardware?

[zinc dew]

I have all this bullshit and the MiSTer just replaced it all in one fell swoop loool

[elfin depot]

I'll take the PVM off your hands anytime

[marble cargo]

Okay I found out my issue! For some reason my input was tied to the button/key remap option. Now the input is working like normal.

[plush summit]

also @zinc dew , THPS3 on Xbox and GC, had to censor a "Playstation 2" reference in one song 😂

[mortal panther]

"For some reason my input was tied to the button/key remap option."
Hard to believe. 😏

[loud pebble]

Not small enough! I have this!

[mortal panther]

Must... go... smaller!

[loud pebble]

Gasp!

[fair stump]

I need a travel tv I can mount on my mister ps1-style

[bronze tree]

one of those ipad panels from aliexpress?

[rare halo]

Anybody know a site or tool that will convert Everdrive saves to the core? I googled... but what I've found so far is a no go.

[vast delta]

don't you just need to rename their extension to .sav?

also, how does the core handle games with both cart and cpak saves? like MK64?

[broken cradle]

Yes

[zenith orchid]

I wouldn't say avoid it, just know that it's a demake.

also, play both versions of the THPS games and see which ones you like. I prefer the N64 versions because smooth gameplay and visuals is more important to me than full soundtracks and FMVs

[broken cradle]

I played them on n64 because it's what I had as a kid but as an adult I can't stand the loading on psx lol and gameplay does indeed feel smoother on the n64

I don't remember how high up the series I bought for n64 tho so I don't remember how 3 is

Which one had Darth maul and spiderman?

Cus that was the last one I bought on the n64 I think

[zenith orchid]

psx had spiderman

2nd I think

[fair stump]

Maul was 3

[broken cradle]

So 3 is the last one I got for n64 good to know

Play 3 @zinc dew

[fair stump]

I learned that 4 had shrek 👀

[broken cradle]

Do the Darkside grind

[zenith orchid]

4 demake is on PSX

not on N64

[broken cradle]

I don't know if I got 4 on ps2

[zenith orchid]

but even the demake probably wouldn't fit on an N64 cart

[broken cradle]

All I know is I never bought underground or any of the rest, stopped at 4

[plush summit]

Thats a shame, THUG was definitely one of the best ones

[broken cradle]

I played the demo I believe or borrowed it

Ps2 days I had to be more frugal with my purchase

Prices weren't so easy to persuade my parents

[inner plume]

THUG is the best Tony Hawk game, change my mind

[broken cradle]

Wouldn't thug2 be better? Cus sequel

We all know the sequels are the best

[inner plume]

I enjoyed THUG 2 because it's basically "J*ckass" but THUG 1 had better levels

[plush summit]

THUG2 is alright, but THUG 1's story was WAY BETTER

[rare halo]

Just renaming it doesn't seem to work for me. Just trying to tranfer my Zelda and No Mercy saves

[inner plume]

And a better story

F*ck Eric

[plush summit]

yeah, THUG2 was more marketing than TH game

[broken cradle]

One thing I found cool I guess was being able to get off your board

Also didn't you have like a health meter too?

[inner plume]

He gets his comeuppance in THUG 2 though

I appreciated that

[plush summit]

I know the THUG Pro PC mod uses THUG2 as a base

but overall, THUG 1 is the better of the two as a vanilla game

[inner plume]

I don't remember a health meter but there is a combo timer for cavemanning before you lost your combo

[broken cradle]

Might be thinking of something else then, cus I think I remember seeing blood when you face planted etc

[inner plume]

I think you bleed when you scrape your body across the pavement in every TH game, or at least from 2 onward

Can't recall seeing blood in 1

[broken cradle]

I'm not home or I'd boot up 2 and see I thought it was something that was added in the modern ones starting with thug

[inner plume]

Now that I think about it... was pixellated blood unique to the PSX versions and not in the N64 versions?

Yeah I think that's the case, the N64 THPS 1 was rated E but PSX was T

[broken cradle]

Maybe that's why I don't remember any blood since most of mine were on n64

[inner plume]

I had THPS1 for N64 but played all other titles on PSX or PS2

Yeah all the N64 THPS titles were rated E

Bet that's why there are missing songs and additional lyric edits in those versions as well

[broken cradle]

It's all starting to come back I think I saw blood for the first time in thps4 on ps2 and I spent most of the time painting the ramps with my blood on purpose

[vast delta]

try this tool: https://savefileconverter.com/#/flash-carts

[inner plume]

I remember blood in THPS2 on the PSX

I only recently played 3 on PSX, the rest of the titles I had and played on PS2

[solemn maple]

I find it wierd that Dreamcast never got THPS3. Was the DC already dead in late 2001?

[mild ether]

Yes.

[broken cradle]

Yeah dc died by time ps2 was out

Except for some sports titles I think

[mild ether]

Late 2001 was Xbox and there was no Dreamcast.

[inner plume]

Weirdly, DC has been getting homebrew "retail" releases periodically since it's demise

Most recent one was a few years back that I can recall

[mild ether]

Dreamcast was still around in 2000 because I have a production sample GDRom that I am fairly certain was used to show the game at e3.

[inner plume]

DC died in early 2001

[thorn flax]

in the west

[inner plume]

And MS filled the gap later that year

[thorn flax]

japan was a somewhat different story

[inner plume]

You sure on that? Thought Sega withdrew from the console market at the same time

Wiki page says DC was discontinued worldwide 3/31/2001: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamcast

[elfin depot]

Sweeeeet @zenith orchid Didn't get Wolf3d but got most dooms

[inner plume]

What is that display?

[orchid nimbus]

PAC SE6

[elfin depot]

That's my Mister Luggable

[inner plume]

Oh, so the MiSTer is contained/built into that case with a screen?

That's rad

[elfin depot]

Ultimate Doom works

Plutonia

Testing TNT now

[orchid nimbus]

It even has Dolch on it 🙂

[mild ether]

Dr Mario is perfect.

[orchid nimbus]

Yes

It sure is - hard as balls

[mild ether]

Haven't gotten a crash yet on this build.

[inner plume]

How does the Dr. Mario 64 gameplay differ from the NES version?

never played it

[mild ether]

It's Dr Mario and it has a story mode.

[inner plume]

Nice

I'll have to check it out

[elfin depot]

Dolch Pac 586, was destroyed when I got it so it became my doner shell

[mild ether]

Basically just some graphic upgrades mostly but Dr Mario is such a classic it really didn't need much gameplay changes to be great.

[inner plume]

don't think I've touched dr. mario since the 90s

[elfin depot]

Mister Stack, SNAC, usb ports on the side, screen, cherry mx mechanical keyboard (doubles as a screen protector), 220w power supply (it was what it had), and carry bag with all the other stuff one might need

[mild ether]

Reminds me of one of the early 80s "portable" computers.

Or an oscilloscope.

[elfin depot]

Yeah it's a Luggable for sure, but nice and easy to grab and go

[mild ether]

I used to bring mine in my luggage with a pillow case full of cables and controllers to play on the road in hotels. That's a much neater solution.

[wanton sun]

yes, i will add the ddr3 slowdown in as soon as the cpu and rsp have full speed. Then you hopefully get slow daikatana again 😉

[marble cargo]

I'm assuming this will introduce the intended lag in games like Pokémon Stadium 2?

[wanton sun]

hopefully, haha

[vapid moat]

Will there be option to turn off the ddr3-slowdown for slight performance boost?

[wanton sun]

yes

i don't see why not

but default should be the normal, slow speed

[twin torrent]

Thanks Robert! DKR water is fixed!

[zinc dew]

That is brilliant! Thank you!!

[wanton sun]

if anyone wonders what the pokemon stadium fix is...this was old:

this is new:

[surreal bay]

I play smash bros 64 competitively and the no lag has been a gamechanger, so i would be eternally grateful if that option exists to not induce console lag in the future.

[wanton sun]

i know, seems very minor, but it happens also in the game sometimes and as i play it, it annoyed me 😅

[fair stump]

the logo of rayman 2 in the intro has had a vertical black line in it at places, i wonder if this fixes that as well

[surreal bay]

I have been extremely impressed with everything I've tried out!

[wanton sun]

no worries, there is no reason to not allow it

[twin torrent]

Very subtle, I wouldn't have noticed if you didn't point out

[late zinc]

Speaking of Pokemon Stadium, I noticed a weird bug a while ago that I don't think was ever mentioned before: if you pick Chansey to be on your team the game instantly crashes. I don't think this happens with any other pokemon

[cold pollen]

So wait some games are running without slowdown? I haven't been following, is this an actual problem for any games?

[wanton sun]

this one?

[fair stump]

yeah

[wanton sun]

i can't see any issue there?

[fair stump]

going through the 2. Is that from an older build?

[wanton sun]

this is from previous build

[versed cairn]

You have bilinear on or off? Game scales vertically

[wanton sun]

cannot reproduce

[fair stump]

I'll have to recheck it and get back to you later 👍

[surreal bay]

I'm going to a smash tournament in a few weeks where there will some of the best players in north america, so i'll be excited to introduce them to this project. From what I've tested, I think everyone will be blown away.

[late zinc]

@wanton sun must be my rom dump then. I'll try with one from a different source

[lament escarp]

I'd love to hear what pro gamers think about mister. Don't forget your snac adapter!

[surreal bay]

Ah, i don't have a snac adapter, but the majority of the smash players play online w/ emulator using a raphnet adapter, so i have been using that

and i feel like i'm playing on a perfect console

people will overclock their n64 consoles to try and limit console lags in smash, but it only goes so far

[lament escarp]

I've just been assuming they'd be super picky about latency and snac should be best in that regard. Admittedly I don't know anything about competitive smash.

[surreal bay]

So this solves that problem, gives me a 2nd output to stream, allows for multiple controller types.

one of the things that's a little bit interesting about the smash community is that people use all sorts of controllers, because most players started by playing online emulators

so people play w/ xbox controllers w/ weird adapters and even keyboards

[rare halo]

I'll give it a shot thanks!

[surreal bay]

but they require all sorts of mods to get working on console

this solves that problem as well.

[lament escarp]

Yeah but don't forget about the dark side of the misters controller compatibility of us are controller hamsters with uncontrollable impulses.

[surreal bay]

They are picky about input latency, but i have not noticed any compared to real hardware. Bigger concern imo has been random fps slowdowns on console.

but i have noticed that the game is very stable on mister

even in doubles w/ a lot of stuff happening on the screen

[random portal]

took a new creeper conker shot in the latest core

[chrome quest]

@wanton sun If you're looking for other Stadium 1/2 visual bugs, I don't recall if I ever shared these outside the PAL spreadsheet.
Patches missing from Pokémon models. Can see what looks like the same issue in both summary screen of any Pokémon from GB cart in Oaks Lab, or on this pre battle screen in most modes in Stadium 2. Can't see anything similar in Stadium 1

[marble cargo]

The pollution is gone!! 🌊

[wanton sun]

thank you. have not seen that in stadium 1 yet

[zinc dew]

Does this also fix the surface fog and water in Mario 64?

[wanton sun]

are there still issues in mario64? i was not aware

[zinc dew]

I’ll try to get a photo of it. It was most evident in Jolly Roger Bay.

[stone pilot]

I was seeing those too, but haven't checked the latest build

[fair stump]

there's a boxing game with similar artifacts

[wanton sun]

have to leave now, but if you have something, feel free to @ me and i take a look tomorrow. No promise i can fix it, but mario64 deserves a look 🙂

[remote hatch]

Ridge Racer 64 is also worth a look 😄

[zinc dew]

I won’t be home for a while so if anyone wants to beat me to it, by all means

[chilly pivot]

@wanton sun thanks for the update

[mortal panther]

I think Robby's just making stuff up. I wouldn't worry about it. 😉

[zinc dew]

no I swear lol

[chilly pivot]

@wanton sun On the wrestling there missing images (like in the intros) . Why is that? I like to know the technical side. 😊

[fair stump]

Not fixed

[chrome quest]

Those 4 wrestling games are funny. 2 are made by Acclaim Studios Salt Lake City (aka Iguana West?), those look great. The other 2, developed by AKI Corporation both have visual issues. Even though TLB gets some use in the Acclaim games (Attitude), those look the best 😄

[remote hatch]

Yeah, i tried, thanks 🙂

[chrome quest]

Also Stadium text fix looks a little like the Monster Truck Madness 64 main menu text issue. No fix there

[gloomy cape]

I have noticed a regression with some textures in Blast Corps (USA). The previous two cores shows the extra planet textures as green. Previous cores dated upto and including 1023 shows correct. 100% save is attached. Just navigate to Shuttle island.

[fair stump]

@wanton sun sorry, wasn't super clear. This is how the logo looks during the long intro when starting a new game

This is from today's build

[languid dune]

More N64 core goodness today!

[random portal]

that's too hilarious, I was in the mood for Smash Remix and downloaded the october 25th core

[zinc dew]

Smash Remix is incredible

[thorn flax]

it's better than ultimate because it's not drowning in le anime swordsman

fire emblem and it's consequences in smash were a mistake

[dense wagon]

usual controller connectivity question... friend of mine just tried to get his 8BitDo Ultimate connected up... couldn't get it to accept the analogue stick... is that aknown thing?

or is it a stick 1 stick 2 swap thing? odd part was that after mapping it in the mister core / main menu, the analogue sticks dont actually show up in the testing application either... which is a bit weird

[weary beacon]

didn't map it in the main menu

[solemn marlin]

It's funny but it also seems a bit arbitrary with character choices, why is sonic there

[vagrant ivy]

HedgeHog Hater !

[weary beacon]

I just sharpened my pitch fork too

[solemn marlin]

I guess he's in the new game but still, it mostly seems like a mix of 64 guys and melee additions I guess...

[dense wagon]

yeah we mapped it in the main menu

[fair stump]

Anything fun found with today's update?

[marble cargo]

Yes

[dense wagon]

so mapped it in the mister main menu thingy bob... the usual F12, right menu.
so map left stick right stick kinda thing

unless iv got a totally messed up installation

[solemn marlin]

Might as well put gex and rayman in it at that point

[vagrant ivy]

you sure you went all the way through the mapping in Main Mister. When you get to the mouse settings you have to keep going to the analog setup

[solemn marlin]

No way they should be in there before Bomberman imo

[dense wagon]

oooooooooooooh fudge cant just hit finish?

[vagrant ivy]

no

[dense wagon]

perfect that might be it

i can still leave those undefined tho right

[vagrant ivy]

mouse is undefined yes

[dense wagon]

excellent - thanks! we will try that

yeah i think i actually recall now i had to do that for my usb n64 controller

[solemn marlin]

Bomberman did a lot of heavy lifting for the n64, way more than Marina

[vagrant ivy]

also tnhe C Buttons may show up as an analog stick I cant remember which controller that was either NSO or 8bit Do

[dense wagon]

but with that, that was fun because it kept assigning left stick to the Y axis and right X lol till i somehow faffed enough to get it working haha

[solemn marlin]

Will a lousy old laptop give you trouble when building stuff from github? Just wanna see that doom port working, see if it's possible to put a random wad in there

[minor fog]

So I have this but still SM64 refuses to save. I’m thinking now that maybe the no face patching went skew-whiff. What is the recommended no face patch and patching method?

[solemn marlin]

Docker keeps crashing for me

[mortal panther]

The information is in the pinned comments.

[weary beacon]

docker seemed redundant for me. I just use compose now.

[solemn marlin]

Compile some doom wads with it

Or if there's any other cool n64 homebrew tbh

Oh a goose game n64 demake

[native mesa]

There is?

[solemn marlin]

Apparently, have to try it

[toxic pumice]

good evening n64 crew

[native mesa]

N64 is the best it's ever been

[minor fog]

Thanks. I had used the ips patch prviously, hopefully the bps one will work instead.

[solemn marlin]

Goose game baby

Nothing to do in it tho

[vapid hawk]

new build hype

[dense wagon]

N64 untitled goose game? lol

haha love that game

just love honking at people

[solemn marlin]

Sorry to say that honking has not yet been implemented, you can just walk around

[vapid hawk]

it should just be called untitled game until the honking is in

[solemn marlin]

Really cool how well it all works tho, maybe there'll be more homebrew with this core

[chrome quest]

This is incredible. 10/10. No honk? 0/10

[native mesa]

There might be honk. Could be a core issue

Portal 64 audio is busted too

[solemn marlin]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad honks, I might have set it up incorrectly, lemme check

You can spin a cube if you hold z

[last sigil]

j

[solemn marlin]

There's game of life, minesweeper and flappy bird

[vast delta]

btw, for anyone with the 8bitdo n64 controller wanting to use DInput mode, make sure to map the C-buttons as the right stick in the Mister level button assignments. this way it will enable the C-buttons to be mapped in the core

[twin torrent]

That seems to happen on real hardware too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-7y4s_pdVA

[vapid ember]

@vast delta Are you using wired or Wireless?

[stone pilot]

@wanton sun @zinc dew The graphical glitch with the SM64 water is still present in the 10/27 build. To see it, enter Jolly Roger Bay and walk toward the cannon; the water will start behaving incorrectly on the left side of the screen. I'm using the UltraSM64 patch.

[weary beacon]

The bug is in the UltraSM64 patch, just use the noface patch

[stone pilot]

I wondered if that might have been the case. Does it do that on original hardware too?

[languid dune]

Any game with Ultra-InterGalactic-Cybot G Marina Liteyears is incredible by default!

[vast delta]

wireless, but i assume the same applies for Wired DInput mode

[fair stump]

Oh, excellent! Thank you for looking into that 👍

@wanton sun looks like Rayman logo matches hardware

[ruby falcon]

Happy Friday everyone!

[void pawn]

oh man 😆

well, I'm headed out of town for the weekend soon

but I updated everything and my Classic controller plus Gbros is still reading WAY sensitive (hits plus minus 85 in controller test halfway before reaching the octagon gate)

AND

mister v231018
OS v230501
N64 v231027

[weary beacon]

insert blank response here

[last scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkxWXTmTdww

[mortal panther]

Ah, that must be why I see it, too. I've been using that patch as well.
There's a similar water-related anomaly when you first load the game and wander around the right side of the castle near the back. Rotate the camera around enough at certain spots, and a water plane just randomly appears above the ground at around Mario's height.

[weary beacon]

Other games fixed with the last test build?

[dusty tusk]

Nice water

[loud tartan]

Hoping someone can help, I'm sure that I saw someone post a utility / tool here that would remove the face from Mario 64 hacks, (not the patch that's in the pins for the vanilla rom) ..... only I can't find it and can't remember what this tool was called. Hoping someone knows what it was called (and when it was posted here, even better to link back to it) so that I can d/l it & patch a few romhacks.

[weary beacon]

MarioDefacer.exe or .sh for linux

[loud tartan]

Thank you so much!

[radiant plank]

It seems F1-Gran Prix has the lighted rpm indicator sprites finally fixed, this bug has been there for ages!

[hexed knot]

Unfortunately wasn't able to get that defacer to work with the splitscreen mod. Applied the bps, then dragged that result onto the exe, but the result wouldn't boot. Thought perhaps the database entry was incorrect, but I just used the one from the original ROM.

• the correct hash of course.

[elder glade]

https://fxtwitter.com/quest64official/status/1717947796223934469?s=46&t=PIHvKy2hLKq3z6Jvjbr0WA

[weary beacon]

Codeine goes down easier with a sweet drink also known as a chaser. I would have to include that into the calories.

[quasi storm]

I was asking about some great RPGs on the N64 roughly a month ago, and someone recommended Holy Magic Century, an EU release...

I fell for that hook, line and sinker...

I got to the title screen and was like, "... Wait a minute!"

[main lintel]

is there any way to turn on scaling or anything yet or is that something for the far future?

also, does anyone else's NSO controller just constantly cycle the lights, even after pairing?

[stone pilot]

Scaling is a far-future hypothetical maybe-if-lucky sort of thing

[main lintel]

gotcha - totally understandable

[zinc dew]

ahahahaha

[quasi storm]

I can't find the conversation now. Was that you?!

[daring meteor]

IT WAS ME