Nintendo 64

[oblique crow]

stares at 3DO

[languid dune]

Yeah, the Nightdive remaster of Doom 64 is fantastic.

[rose elbow]

does the nightdive remaster allow u to go chunky pixels ?

sort of a nostalgia request

[oblique crow]

I think so - I'll fire it up

one sec

[languid dune]

I'd have to check. It's been awhile since I played it on my Switch.

[oblique crow]

worst case, DOOM64 GZDOOM, throw Vanilla Essence on it, and go full chonk

[rose elbow]

theres something about like, seeing Doom 64 on actual hardware, or robert's n64 core on mister, that instantly just triggers the nostalgia in a way the cranked up resolutions doesn't quite scratch for me

its more just the controller makes it harder to play lol

especially Doom 64 with texture filtering turned off, looks so nice to me

[dusty tusk]

PSX DOOM, DOOM 64, and DOOM 3. The perfect horror trilogy.

[rose elbow]

i need to play through Doom with the psx soundtrack

[oblique crow]

No real chonky mode, just filtering off

[rose elbow]

i've always been a bit against it but i think im coming around to it ...

[rose elbow]

thanks for checking!!!

[oblique crow]

My dude, go google DOOM CE, please!

DOOM 64 + PSX remakes for GZDoom

PSX DOOM music is so crazy

[chilly ember]

I kinda wish doom 4 got released. I know it probably wouldn't have been great but I'm just curious how it would have turned out

[oblique crow]

Call of Doom(y)

[chilly ember]

Yea haha

[mortal panther]

Doom (2016) would have to be my favorite. The rest I don't really care to bother ranking... except for Doom 3. It's pretty far down whatever list I would manage to come up with.

[languid dune]

Time to adjust the system level resolution!

[oblique crow]

let me show you what I mean though by Vanilla Essence >:) I'll show in a minute

[mortal panther]

Doom 64 isn't a favorite... but I do like it a lot for what it offers. It has its own charm.

[mortal panther]

Doom (2016) just got everything right though.

[brisk edge]

if you're interested in looking at psx doom, psydoom exists now. psx version ported/recreated but for pc

[languid dune]

Of the classic Doom trilogy (1, 2, and 64), Doom 64 is honestly my favorite. I just love the level design.

[oblique crow]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126183-gzdoom-doom-ce-psx-tc-d64-retribution-overhauled/

[brisk edge]

https://github.com/BodbDearg/PsyDoom

[rose elbow]

all the lighting and crazy colours is so much fun as well

[oblique crow]

@languid dune
chonk

[languid dune]

Yeah, the visuals in Doom 64 made it feel like a genuine sequel to Doom 1 and 2.

[oblique crow]

#doomtendo 64 right now

[languid dune]

Nintendoooooomed!

[rose elbow]

you can tell this image is fake coz original Doom never came out on N64

[mortal panther]

DOOM Eternal pissed me off though. Not the game... it was fine, and I had lots of fun with it. It was the purchase.

I pre-ordered the PC version online through Best Buy, solely because they offered a so-called 'physical' option. To top things off, they also offered a 'Best Buy Exclusive' Collector's Edition steelbook case to go along with the normal plastic one.

Then it arrives in the store. I go to pick it up, along with the steelbook case. I got home and opened it up, and realized that the only thing physical about that edition was the case.

In place of the actual disc was a disc-shaped piece of cardboard with a download key printed on it. That was complete bullshit. Why even offer an additional Collector's Edition steelbook case for a game that never had a physical disc to begin with?

[rose elbow]

oof

[chilly ember]

Collector edition disc shaped cardboard

[mortal panther]

I'll cherish it always...

The cardboard disc actually came in the plastic case. The steelbook case was completely empty. It's just plain ol' cardboard. 😉

[latent galleon]

that is...insulting haha

[rose elbow]

was it possible to buy the steelbook by itself ?

[mortal panther]

I don't think so, but I didn't ask.

[rose elbow]

thank god lol

[latent galleon]

plus this poor planet when you buy cardboard inside plastic to get a code

[rose elbow]

i was just imagining someone buying the steelbook first by mistake, realizing, then buying the physical edition

either way its a kick in the face

[elfin depot]

@oblique crow do you have the bluejeans though?

[rose elbow]

its like, surely just not releasing the cardboard cutout edition of Doom would've been an option

i wonder what the decision process that results in stuff like that happening

[stiff condor]

I stopped buying physical games and I wait until games get very cheap before buying them.

[native mesa]

The decision is "there are still chumps that buy physical games, we can get their money AND save on manufacturing while also forcing them into DRM" mwahahahajajaj

[stiff condor]

Yeah it all comes down to $$$. That's why most business decisions are made.

[rose elbow]

at the very least it needs a big red sticker plastered across the box saying "WARNING this is a piece of cardboard inside"

not a lot to ask

[stiff condor]

I'm sure there was some fine print somewhere lol

[rose elbow]

very fine

[native mesa]

I guess you could make your own disc if you were really up for it

Complete with keygen music

[stiff condor]

Flashbacks to fitgirl music

[chilly ember]

How many people have a disc drive in their main pc nowadays? I sure don't

[elfin relic]

I've got a USB CD/DVD drive I bop around to different computers

[stiff condor]

I have a USB C Blu-ray drive just in case

I used it a few months ago to burn a Hexen disc for my OG Xbox

[cerulean elk]

Same. It comes in handy

[chilly ember]

I keep external drives arounds just for the rare time I need to burn a cd/DVD but that is almost never these days haha

[elfin relic]

I actually also own a couple old plextors and an IDE to USB cable, specifically for CD dumping, but those only come out when needed

[mortal panther]

I stopped caring after that incident. I shouldn't be expected to create my own disc that I supposedly already paid for. It's like walking in to a fast food restaurant with several people 'working' behind the counter... but after walking up to order and waiting while they casually ignore me, one of them eventually motions towards the kiosk where I'm now expected to order my own meal... even though they could (and should) have taken my order at the counter like always.
"Fuck off. If I wanted to work at Taco Bell, I'd work at Taco Bell..."

[cerulean elk]

I dumped some stuff for redump but then the drive died

and I never got a new one

[elfin relic]

I had to source and replace the ONU in one of these plexxies

I know the feels

[stiff condor]

I agree with you. I also love Taco Bell

[elfin relic]

that's why I have multiple working ones

so they can all die on me at once

[stiff condor]

I got the NFC reader working on the MiSTer

[dusty tusk]

New Zealand taco bell sauce packets are made of paper

[chilly ember]

I've a got kreon drive I used to dump a couple games for redump a few years ago and then never really used it again

[mortal panther]

Forever chemicals... just like the sauce inside. 😄

[rose elbow]

it'd be like spending $50 on a 2xLP vinyl and it's just a piece of paper inside saying to download soulseek

[dusty tusk]

I think there would be a market for empty boxes to display on a shelf, but obviously at a reduced price

[rose elbow]

i think so too but my take on it is sort of, the average consumer buying physical games at walmart or best buy is probably not the collector wanting to buy an empty box for a shelf

such a weird topic

[rose elbow]

we only have a small number of taco bells in my state, closest one is 30 minute drive lool

testing the waters i guess

[modern sleet]

What version previously worked ?

[inner garden]

hi all. Is there anywhere I can get an N64 SNAC adapter that works with this system I’m already using? https://www.ebay.com/itm/355128951994?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bSCwJpTYRx6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=32ikDrTvQpa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

or can I somehow hack an n64 connector onto a USB connector myself? how would I find out which wires to connect?

[vapid moat]

Interesting feature in Pokemon Stadium 2: depending on mons you have, you get alternate Pokemon to play with in minigames

[inner garden]

https://misteraddons.com/products/mister-fpga-serial-native-accessory-converter-snac?_pos=3&_psq=snac&_ss=e&_v=1.0

basically has this been abandoned? why is there an hdmi one now?

[zinc dew]

SNAX has become the replacement since it supports the PS1/Saturn/N64 cores and is two player.

I own the SNAC adapter that MisterAddons sells and it's extremely well built and works brilliantly. The price is fantastic if you have no interest in using SNAC for the PS1/Saturn/N64.

I am friends with him so my recommendations are biased but I stand by them.

[inner garden]

I have a separate adapter that works for playstation, 2 player with two memory card slots

now I must buy a third adapter

[zinc dew]

Up to you, whatever your preference is. I'm sure your PS1 2-player adapter will work with Saturn/N64. I am not familiar with it so I can't offer input.

[weary beacon]

taco tuesday woot

[solemn marlin]

Mister is actually a front for big peripheral

[mortal panther]

Friends with PorkchopExpress?
Let me guess, you also have an uncle that works at Nintendo...

[inner garden]

no because it’s a USB connection

[mortal panther]

...or don't tell me, you actually worked in the video game industry. 😉

[carmine kettle]

question idk if someone ask or not is fpgazumspass going to implement virtual cpak like the ps1. ex ps1 snac with virtual memory?

[solemn marlin]

They got their adapted cords running through the whole project, getting their plastic injected fingers all over the entire operation..

[inner garden]

I just hope they will make an n64 connector for the USB SNAC

and not extort me

[zinc dew]

I try to be upfront about that stuff. He's genuinely a really nice guy who's kind enough to listen to my ramblings and happens to make incredible accessories. The last thing I want is for my recommendations to come across as disingenuous so I try to remember to let people know about my bias so they can reach their own conclusions.

[dreamy grove]

I've definitely spent more on adapters than my de10-nano at this point

[solemn marlin]

The lag testing is pretty factual tbh

[mortal panther]

MiSTer is the only reason why I've purchased as many additional controllers as I have the past several years, that's true.

[zinc dew]

It's the same for me, it's crazy.

[mortal panther]

I doubt I would have even bought one 8BitDo controller if not for MiSTer.

[worldly quartz]

I do hope SNAX64 comes out soon since I already bought the cables

Although I am annoyed at myself since it will probably get cloned and sold cheap

[solemn marlin]

I'm considering a silly plastic gun for the first time in my life so I'm getting softer

[worldly quartz]

like gun4ir or like guncon 1/2/3

[mortal panther]

Although, I was already on the fence about getting the NSO N64 controller, just for the Switch.

[dreamy grove]

What will the snax64 that the snax doesn't offer?

[worldly quartz]

4 ports

[solemn marlin]

Guncon 1 in that case

[zinc dew]

two additional ports just for the N64

[worldly quartz]

VRU (if it gets supported) uses port 4

[mortal panther]

How about plastic guitars instead? I still have plenty... from The Dark Times™️

[worldly quartz]

I mean if you have a CRT, it's nice. I really should build the gun4ir. I have had the parts for a year

Annoyingly, GC1/2 hate my CRT while the xbox ones work well

[solemn marlin]

Lol oh yea, my brother had a bunch.. oh the plastic horror, never seen items looking so right flying into a recycling container

[inner garden]

wait is the SNAX 64 yet another new adapter? is it at least backwards compatible? does it support multitap at that point? still room for a 5 port version

[solemn marlin]

My crt is a bit small but if I get a 30+ it's really on the table, I love that virtua cop stuff even with a controller

[zinc dew]

It's another new adapter yes but it's also backwards compatible. They work with all the SNAC compatible adapter cables he sells.

His ReflexAdapter is also compatible with the adapter cables he sells.

SNAX64 is only needed if you really want to play 4-player SNAC.

[latent galleon]

for the super smash bros bros

[solemn marlin]

Didn't the train game ask for a controller in port 4?

[latent galleon]

"the train game"

[solemn marlin]

Densha desu go go

[languid dune]

Pretty sure PS1 is the only one that is exclusive to SNAX. I can confirm that Saturn works on SNAC at the very least!

[desert crow]

yeah he misspoke about saturn, it would work

[worldly quartz]

Not to be confused with PreCure 5 Go go

[zinc dew]

Oh I’m so sorry for being wrong on that.

That’s absolutely my bad.

[solemn marlin]

I refuse to be roasted for not remembering the train game, I can only remember 1 japanese title at once

[elfin relic]

電車でＧＯ！６４

[solemn marlin]

Right now it's dodonpachi, soon I'll forget it and remember the japanese title for ghost n goblins

[zinc dew]

Densha de Go. Which means Train Husband.

[solemn marlin]

Is the train the husband or are you a husband for the train?

[zinc dew]

Go is the Japanese word for husband. That popular game Go? It was played to decide who would marry the bride to be.

[zinc dew]

Taito named it ambiguously to try and capture the whole market.

[inner garden]

but can adapters be made for SNAC? so many people have it

[elfin relic]

can comfirm

[inner garden]

I don’t want more things

[elfin relic]

Robby knows his Japanese

[zinc dew]

Female otakus thought it meant that there were trains that they could marry and Make otakus (called Matakus) thought it was a simulation game where they are a train who has to marry a trainette.

fun fact; the M in MiSTer stands for Mataku

[solemn marlin]

Lol I have no idea if you're making it up but I'll believe it, okay you're fibbing..

[zinc dew]

if you think about it, there could be infinite dimensions with infinite possibilities so could I be really fibbing in a reality composed eternal combinations?

Think about it

[solemn marlin]

They should've named it Train Trouble 64 so I could fit it in my small brain 😎

[worldly quartz]

They should have chagned it to densha gemu

[zinc dew]

Yeah sorry I was being stupid. It’s just called Densha de Go. Densha means train. That’s it.

[worldly quartz]

to be train game

[elfin relic]

Go By Train!

if you want to translate it

[worldly quartz]

I think it's literally translated as Go Go by train

[elfin relic]

Densha is Train
De is a particle that can mark the means of which something is done
Go is Go

! is !

[worldly quartz]

or maybe it's mispelled 5 lol

go by 5 trains

oh wait it's just go

lol

[elfin relic]

it's literally 電車でＧＯ！in the original Japanese

[zinc dew]

Ah damn, that part always tripped me up

[elfin relic]

5 wouldn't make much gramatical sense

[pale granite]

GO! by train then

[elfin relic]

depends on how you want to move the exclamation mark around

[worldly quartz]

too bad the controller isn't very common on n64 here, while I've seen like 5 ps1 controllers of it here

[elfin relic]

there were more psx releases

just the sad single n64 release

so makes sense

[zinc dew]

But the sad single N64 release is better than the PS1 releases!!!!

sixty four bits!!!!

[elfin relic]

okay robby okay

[solemn marlin]

It's all true, the denshas really go go much faster in the 64 one

[latent galleon]

it is clearly 72 bits

[worldly quartz]

i mean the ps1 can be used on the switch version with an adapter

[zinc dew]

Oh damn that’s cool

[elfin relic]

I would like to be able to use one on PS4/5

because that release is much smoother than the Switch one

run along the yamanote line

[solemn marlin]

Seems like the perfect vr game

[elfin relic]

the PS4/5 one does do VR with PSVR1

which makes it all the more annoying that they released a switch controller and not one for the PS4

[solemn marlin]

It's great? I mean they could do that thing with gaussian splatting effect in vr, it'd be amazing

[zinc dew]

I know lol

I bought the switch version because of that controller

[solemn marlin]

https://youtu.be/4MPb9JG9QW0?si=JXzykQWalhMkKiw2

Riding a train through captured tokyo vistas in vr would be top tier gaming, it makes sense since you wouldn't leave the tracks

[solemn marlin]

Densha go go deeper

[cold pollen]

This is what's been missing from 3d videos. Regular ones that don't have stereoscopic suck bad

[pale granite]

Im into unusual controllers but never played Densha de go! ... so not sure if worth getting it

[solemn marlin]

I think the application for games with that technique is fairly limited but that would fit it soo well

[elfin relic]

I like playing densha de go even without the fancy controller

it's a fun arcade-style train "sim"

[solemn marlin]

Since light is baked in (it's photos) and it looks weird up close but all those problems disappear if you're on a train riding a predetermined route

[gusty reef]

for the n64 core what do i need ram wise?

[elfin relic]

one stick of 128MB is best choice

[cold pollen]

Or watching a 3d environment video

[worldly quartz]

just aim for a 128 with 2 chips

4 chips have issues on cores like Saturn

[gusty reef]

got a 2 chip 128mb

[solemn marlin]

Yea I guess, never felt it did much for me but maybe it hasn't been done right, sports and nature documentaries could become really cool

[cold pollen]

Exactly

The few times I've seen stereoscopic stuff it was cool

But like 3d YouTube is a blurry flat mess

[solemn marlin]

All that 3d and vr stuff feels bit like a plane everyone says is gonna take off but I'm not sure, it's neat when I see it but I don't actively go back to it very often

[chilly ember]

I used to think vr was the future until i realised how I'd rather not play all my games standing up moving around

Got a valve index a while ago and what i played was mostly was just pavlov

[solemn marlin]

I actively started getting into crts so that's even a further step back, I just really like a screen with pretty lights

[rare halo]

anyone have any clue why I can't get Rogue Squadron to work? I've tried a few different roms. Every other game that is supposed to be working on the core does except that one...

[zinc dew]

Does it not boot?

[chilly ember]

I love my crt's i only wish they didn't require so much maintenance, space and weigh so much

[rare halo]

It loads but all that comes up is E000000004 error (I just turned on error overlay)

[solemn marlin]

I see the viability of flat screens for all kinds of reasons but there's just something lovely about a crt, once I got back into it, not having it and then getting the big box again, it's just different

[zinc dew]

Make sure the rom you’re using is from the Everdrive pack and make sure you have latest core and n64 database file. You can use the script that’s listed in the pins to make that step easier.

[rare halo]

Thanks Robby... yeah it's weird. Tried both everdrive and No Intro. I'm on lastest core. Going to try to re-download the database file now.

[rich warren]

CRTs are what these games were made on and intended for. Even if you don't need the motion clarity for N64, the medium of the CRT compliments the low-res graphics. The tiny ones look great too. This was taken on a composite only 9" Panasonic and looks awesome.

[rare halo]

Same issue. Weird that it's the only game not working (that's supposed to)... Oh well

[worldly quartz]

nintendo really wanted to have to show off tlb

[eternal island]

ive found a good combination of filters that looks pretty great doing side by sides with a few crts. the sub pixel filters are great. ive actually got a few pics at home i took of the lcd, the tosh and the sony crt i will often send to people and ask which is the lcd

one guy even went on a long winded explanation why the one that he later found out to be the lcd had to be a crt

[chilly ember]

Rogue squadron is booting for me

Filmed on crt to be on topic

[solemn marlin]

I don't think there's anything magical that couldn't possibly ever be emulated by an lcd, but I also like the boxiness of it, it's more like an item, not an anonymous rectangle

[tidal glade]

I miss these intros, today is all right without the laughs

[chilly ember]

I love the N64 logos intros that do something interesting. You don't see any of that anymore

[rare halo]

I just figured it out. Deleted my cfg file and it's working now! Thanks all

[weary beacon]

Most of them in the day basically continued on the Logo animation and then changed it.

firmware/sofwatre updates will change the logo from time to time and destroys this. No one wants to put it in there if it's going to be weird after the next update comes out.

[chilly ember]

I like what they did with the remaster of goldeneye on xbox 360 for the n64 logo

[languid dune]

As always Robby. No forgiveness.

[languid dune]

Probably because most consoles now show the logo for the console when you boot it up. Like how the Gamecube always had the logo animation upon boot up.

[vapid hawk]

i like how if you hold different controller buttons the gamecube boot sequence changes

[chilly ember]

I remember hearing about the 4 player one from a friend when i had brought 2 controllers over and he already had 2 controllers

So we started up the gamecube to experience it. Glorious

Isn't the only combination holding the z button on each controller?

[vapid hawk]

i think Z is like baby noises, B is donkey-kong

[chilly ember]

Yea the one controller z button one is baby noises

[elfin depot]

9" CRT gang!

[chilly ember]

Did you try the 4 player z version?

[vapid hawk]

not sure i ever did

the only 4p game i played much of was crystal chronicles and that used GBAs

[brisk edge]

there's a community patch out there that fixes a handful of bugs and other issues if you weren't aware

[chilly ember]

Oh yea i knew but i haven't got around to trying them

[orchid nimbus]

be careful posting this it might end up on the MARS twitter feed

[visual wadi]

lol

[chilly ember]

I had that game when i was younger but never knew anyone with gameboy advance adapter cables so never tried the multiplayer

[chilly ember]

True :p

[orchid nimbus]

here is a preview of the MARS board

[visual wadi]

Rent

Free

[zinc dew]

C’mon keep that to #fpga-platforms

[orchid nimbus]

keep on chilling for em 🙂

[zinc dew]

This is N64 talk

[fair stump]

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-yawn-dont-care-bored-gif-14699324

[chilly ember]

I thought this was train talk? /s :p

[zinc dew]

lol

[orchid nimbus]

is there a good train sim on the N64

[chilly ember]

No

[zinc dew]

yah

[orchid nimbus]

those japanse Train sims are really good

[cerulean elk]

uh oh Big Daddy Robby got mad at the kids

[orchid nimbus]

Densha De Go! 64

[cerulean elk]

We talking bout @brisk drum mom?

Oh wait railway trains. Sorry. Confused

[brisk drum]

You toxic snake!

https://tenor.com/view/snake-spitting-venom-attack-poisonous-toxic-nat-geo-gif-19052469

Leave my mama up up off dis chat bro

[cerulean elk]

You are the one person I know I can tag in jokes and you have a good sense of humor about it 😂

[weary beacon]

Were you able to save back to the gameboy game using the transfer pak using SNAC?

[desert crow]

c'mon guys keep that talk to the game challenges channel 😆

[orchid nimbus]

I'm never challenged anymore

https://tenor.com/view/challenge-accepted-let-the-challenge-commence-elmo-on-fire-flaming-gif-17013941

[desert crow]

no 2p games ever?

[chilly ember]

Baby crt gang ( i have no idea how to enter the service menu to fix the geometry or i would)

[eternal ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/wacky-japanese-game-show-rock-gif-7881807

Played some Starfox 64 last night
Pretty slick game
I wish you could skip all the cinemas (maybe you can?)
Does it use this noise/static transition effect a lot? The image gets almost like coarse film grain
Or is that a feature yet to implement

[chilly ember]

That is a feature that was added

Film grain

[eternal ravine]

So it's correct now

[chilly ember]

Yes

[eternal ravine]

nice

Maybe they were trying to establish the next trendy transition effect
Like the endless SNES mosaics

[brisk drum]

Lol straight up G

[chilly ember]

Super mario world

Final answer

Did I win?

[dusty tusk]

https://youtube.com/shorts/IfQumd_o0Gk?si=lGp6-DE2XZXNC8aR

[brisk edge]

Such a cheap joke lol

[marble cargo]

Little tip with the Canary Mary races in Banjo-Tooie.

Setting the autofire rate to 128ms on the A button will allow you outpace Canary Mary in every race.

yes my hand hurts from trying to get that cheato page in cloud cuckooland the legit way thanks for asking

[chilly ember]

https://youtu.be/ToQVoyWWluQ?si=ez5shdI2a5dh67MW

[marble cargo]

Fuck Canary Mary!! 🖕

[chilly ember]

I'm too stubborn for autofire or cheats for the core when I'm testing to completion. Superman 64 has cheats for infinite powers? Did I use them? Nope. I got to the end of superman 64 level without enough heat vision to start the bomb so I did it again

[wanton sun]

did you try the hotfix i posted earlier for wark? there was a bug in the PIF/gamepad module that could make it hang when the game does strange things with controller accessory, maybe it helps

@desert crow maybe it would be worth having additional options in the OSD to shift the starting snac port. E.g. if you only select snac for port 3, it would automatically select snac input 1

e.g. in the controller select it would have none,cpak,rpak,snacX,tpak,snac1

where snacX would be 1,2,3,4 depending on the controller but snac1 would be static

so you can always bind the first snac input to any controller port

not sure if that would cover all cases required for those games that need it in port 3 or 4

[desert crow]

the train game might be a rare case, think it wants a regular controller in port 1 and train controller in port 3. I guess you could start snac at port 3 like you're suggesting and use usb for port 1.

There will be snax64 with 4 ports, and I'll probably do a 4 port board also.

in most cases 2 ports are ok if you're not trying to play 4p games

But I'll look at it and see how complicated it will be.

[wanton sun]

yes, maybe it's better to just use 4 port snac adapter if you have such exceptional cases

[chilly ember]

If You're the kind of person who has a densha De go controller laying around to use on the core, you probably already have a snac adapter 🤷

And if you don't have the proper adapter, you're gonna buy the 4 port version

[desert crow]

it only works with that one game?

think VRU wants to be on port 4 and it's only used in 2 games

densha De go being one of them

[chilly ember]

What's the other one?

Hey you pikachu for the microphone?

[desert crow]

yeah i think

[eternal ravine]

Who needs a Pikachus when you have a Seaman

[chilly ember]

I didn't know seaman came out for anything other than dreamcast lol

We had that shitty microphone for socom on ps2 so you could command your team. Half the time they wouldn't understand and would say "we can't do that sir" what a shitty way to play the game

[spiral garnet]

Seaman comes up as forbidden pet in yahoo auction translations sometimes

[chilly ember]

Facebook marketplace likes to reccomend me microwaves from time to time based on the algorithm

[brisk edge]

oh hey, I have this

that controller has a microphone built in

[chilly ember]

Does the Japanese version include Leonard nimoy?

Or do you have to talk to it like you're conducting a train on n64?

[brisk edge]

it's definitely a different voice actor

I didn't get too far because you really do need to be like decently versed at spoken japanese but

I kinda just wanted the wacky controller lol

[orchid nimbus]

illogical

[chilly ember]

https://youtu.be/_5DZexDYyuU?si=hVchb_ucEBMq18kp

[orchid nimbus]

thank god I'm not from Holland

I hate that place

[chilly ember]

Damn them saskatchatoon's

Looks like you know your history

[orchid nimbus]

Holland are 2 provinces of the Netherlands

South and North Holland

[zenith orchid]

Someone from Holland saying they're from Holland is like someone from either of the Dakotas saying they are from Dakota. It's really bizarre to me that people refer to Netherlands as a whole as "Holland," and even some Dutch people do that.

All of us here from USA might as well say we're from Dakota

[vagrant ivy]

Thats from History. The Dutch provinces of Holland are costal and so the sailors came from there. when people asked where they were from they just said Holland and so it stuck

[zenith orchid]

The fact that it still sticks is what confuses me though

[tidal zenith]

No one is actually from either Dakota though. I’m not even sure they’re real

[manic basin]

I'M DAKOTAKUS!

[daring meteor]

Isn't Dakota where the statues are

[mossy needle]

North Dakota and they're more half chisled faces

Mt Rushmore was never finished I believe because the project ran out of money and they were all "eh good enough" which is pretty indicative of US projects lol

And I did not know that about the Netherlands

[zenith orchid]

The biggest port cities at the time of the country's founding were New York(City) and Philadelphia. But they called it all "America" I guess. And that seems to have stuck even though it's only one country in the Americas.

Man, if only netplay were a thing on MiSTer. we could be playing Mario Party together

[mossy needle]

That would absolutely be amazing provided the internet infrastructure were a little more consistent world wide

It seems to work pretty well with Fightcade

[zenith orchid]

at least input latency would work in our favor

mario party might be even more fun with lag, if you're just having fun and not taking it too seriously

it adds another element of chance

[mossy needle]

I remember doing a mario party drinking game in college but instead of trying to win, everyone was trying to lose and all the win states meant taking a drink

[zenith orchid]

🤣🤣🤣

[mossy needle]

It actually kinda worked

[zenith orchid]

that might be the most fun way to make a drinking game out of it

[mossy needle]

I actually haven't tried the NSO N64 games online. Do they work well or is it kinda meh?

[zenith orchid]

haven't tried either

[mossy needle]

I know the emulation is pretty bad though

[zenith orchid]

in theory netplay could be done via snac if you have some kind of module that transmits or relays signals over a network

but syncing might be an issue

[mossy needle]

And depending on how many people are playing there would have to be some pretty good servers

[zenith orchid]

yeah, some kind of external module might be the only way. unless someone makes their own test build of the framework with netplay functionality, and introduce it to several cores via test builds. kinda like how we got YC video

even then I think it took a while before sorg gave it the OK to integrate the functionality

[zenith orchid]

Hell yes! Time to test THPS games!

[daring meteor]

No change here on robotron

[fair stump]

Beautiful

[dusty tusk]

Is thps3 fixed?

[fair stump]

I can check, was it missing main menu text as well?

[dusty tusk]

All the text was massively screwed up

Nice

curious if foundry still has glitchy textures

[fair stump]

Huh, Tom Clancy still doesn't have main menu text

[fair stump]

So I'm skating around it and it's seemingly fixed?

I'm gonna check THPS san fran too. That's where I consistently got it as well

[rotund fox]

quick question: is the ndd rom format for the 64dd is in the todo list or not? 🙂

[fair stump]

San Francisco seems fixed too

@wanton sun not sure if it was expected but it looks like this fixed the thps text and the wild texture glitching

[dusty tusk]

Crazy how a seemingly unrelated bug can affect multiple things

[random portal]

for some reason THPS3 on N64 feel spooky. Also the PS1 port.

[fair stump]

I've only ever played the ps2 version so I'm really hesitant to try the n64 version 😆

[dusty tusk]

Probably because the design of levels became more open, but the draw distance is still really low

[random portal]

Silent Hill's Pro Skater

[dusty tusk]

I'm pretty sure they're literally just level packs for THPS2, they even both have big drop

[fair stump]

I noticed the fog in foundry is so dark, but in a way that's on purpose

[random portal]

must be the fog then

going from PS2/PC to downports is only for the thrillseekers.

although the PS1 downports aren't as bad since there isn't much disparity unless you played the "modern" version first.

[iron dove]

The green tree textures in lucy's levitation (Mario 64 hack) look correct in latest core, on earlier ones it looked like 2 textures moving over one another

[dusty tusk]

Trying to think of any other particularly glitchy textures that may have been fixed. Randomly flashing characters got fixed a while back right?

[fair stump]

I'm looking through the test sheet. I'm not sure if there's been any improvement in wwe games

[wanton sun]

anything where texture was wrong could be improved, but it's hard to guess

[fair stump]

Top gear rally menus look good now, I believe that was an issue

[dusty tusk]

I think it's kinda crazy that I'm running out of things to even think of that are still glitchy looking

[fair stump]

Hey look, it's not just all brown

[vapid hawk]

thps3 is fixed? what was all that, it looked insane before lol

[iron dove]

yep I noticed the fog was missing in jolly roger bay, then remembered it goes away after completing the first star 🙂

[fair stump]

Trees are even fixed in Beetle Adventure Racing

[vapid hawk]

oh just the text, ingame thps3 is still weird looking?

[chrome quest]

If your checking Top Gear, Overdrive (PAL at least, perhaps all versions), had an odd glitch in the icons at track select showing weather.
#1096015979055697940 message

[fair stump]

All of thps3 looked fine to me

But it was a quick check and skate around

[vapid hawk]

nice

[fair stump]

Still no RR64 headlights

[dusty tusk]

Foundry and Rio were the ones that were really buggy looking, both featured in the intro

[vapid hawk]

oh, that one rpg game had some visual artifacts

ogre battle?

and there was some car combat game that had similar looking text to thps3

[iron dove]

the tv screens in blast corps look to be fixed

[fair stump]

What Diddy kong track should I check for that purple stuff?

Ah still there

[vapid hawk]

vigilante8 was the car combat game

[iron dove]

N64_20231023 vs N64_20231025

[quick arch]

top gear rally texts are fixed

[fair stump]

Monster truck madness text is mostly fixed but has some extra pixels all over it

[trim seal]

I am sorry to say that the latest core fixes the textures in Powerpuff Girls - Chemical X-traction

[fair stump]

No more disappearing characters in Powerpuff girls

😆

[trim seal]

SNAP!

[rose elbow]

lowkey surprise massive update :O

[fair stump]

Yeah I was gonna say 😆

[bronze tree]

sky box is also fixed!

[fair stump]

Yep, and the tree textures

[bronze tree]

so, not yuv related after all?

[fair stump]

Anyone have dr mario to check?

[rose elbow]

yo am i imagining things or is Rogue Squadron a Widescreen game?

im not seeing much mention of it online but it looks "correct" to me stretched out.
** ahh nevermind. expansion pak increases the resolution. definitely finding info on it now 😅

[quick arch]

dr mario 64 is fixed

[fair stump]

@hollow rune ^

[bronze tree]

you might be right, at least the title scroll doesn't look right in 4:3

[rose elbow]

apparently rogue squadron with expansion pak resolution is; 400×440 .. still looks pretty good in widescreen tho.

[rose elbow]

like "in game" and the HUD and stuff, looks squished in 4:3

odd stuff

[quick arch]

SCARS is fixed also

[rose elbow]

that yellow c button circle

TIL

[fair stump]

@cerulean elk FYI: menu text fixed and wild texture bug fixed in thps and thps3.
Skybox, car colors, and tree texture fixed in beetle adventure racing.
Invisible characters fixed in Powerpuff girls.
Dr mario 64 visual artifacts are fixed.

[bronze tree]

@rose elbow but the logo on the title screen is broken, wasn't that fixed?

(sometimes flickers into existence)

[rose elbow]

the menus in this definitely still broken. don't recall it being fixed

i'm so happy Beetle Adventure Racing is fixed :) :)

[bronze tree]

me too 🙂

I wonder if there is still something missing

I thought maybe the reflections on the car, but they are there

[fair stump]

@wanton sun I believe I remember you trying to fix Supercross 2000 before. It looks perfect now

[zenith orchid]

is it just me or do the THPS2 intro demos play way too fast?

it might be a timing issue worth noting

[fair stump]

I've seen that kind of thing happen in other games

[zenith orchid]

ah okay

[vapid hawk]

these both look kinda wrong to me heh

[zenith orchid]

Holy crap! Shadows in THPS2 are fixed!

[vapid hawk]

yeah thps2/3 should both be pretty playable now

[zenith orchid]

omg, so much better than the PSX version.

I can deal with the limited music, but gameplay and graphics is just

@cerulean elk @fallen sparrow THPS games are damn near perfect, and now we have Beetle Adventure Racing

[rose elbow]

i was going to say, i find playing Tony Hawk on n64 controller weird and wrong.. but then i remembered this is the MiSTer we're talking about 😅

[zenith orchid]

yeah I mapped it to my DS3

[fair stump]

Oh wow, that first level looks a lot different than it did before

I've only played the remaster of 2

[zenith orchid]

before it had no shadows whatsoever, everything was fully bright

only shadows from the player model

[daring meteor]

What do you think is the missing texture?

[weary beacon]

So much improvements with only one bug fixed 🙂

[zenith orchid]

furthermore you can swap analog and dpad

[fair stump]

Missing texture?

[remote hatch]

The car lights in Ridge Racer 64 have also been fixed ? 🙂

Could someone please check ?

[fair stump]

Nope

[remote hatch]

thanks

[fair stump]

Maybe next time 🤞

[rose elbow]

the SKATE letter seems to be rendering out of the screen ?

[zenith orchid]

@wanton sun thank you so much for this update! The only issue I see with the THPS games is the intro demos play too fast. There's overscan issues in the original hardware so its pretty accurate, maybe an overscan crop feature could be handy

[zenith orchid]

I think that's from a trick you did that ended with the letter E

[solemn maple]

Yeah, did all the goals for the first level in THPS2 and it looks amazing now

[fair stump]

Oh I think I've seen thps render text on the sides like that as well

Like it's writing a bunch of text behind the game

[dusty tusk]

Wonder if it's an overscan trick

[rose elbow]

ahh makes sense

something for an overscan border down the line, not a bug or anything

[dusty tusk]

someone would have to verify on original hardware to be certain

[quick arch]

Derby Stallion 64 still have missing texts

[rose elbow]

i did unplug the n64 just today to plug in the gamecube, had the new retrotink 5x remote control arrive today

but i suppose i could technically have a look LOL

gimme a min

[fair stump]

That would be really interesting to see

[rose elbow]

ye i am curious tbh

🤔 will i even see anything?

[vapid hawk]

you might need to relax the cropping on the rt5x but yeah you should

[zenith orchid]

so rogue squadron is a slam dunk now isn't it?

[rose elbow]

the menus are still broken, not fixed in recent update

[zenith orchid]

Ah, the text is better, but still has some flickering

For me its not completely broken like it was in earlier builds

[rose elbow]

Tony hawk 3 Original hardware has the overscan glitch also

[fair stump]

Wow nice

[zenith orchid]

Other than the overscan stuff, it's solid gameplay wise

[solemn maple]

Thanks for checking, bitroast 🙂

[vapid hawk]

it would be nice to have some cropping options for n64, quite a few games have junk at the screen edge

[daring meteor]

You have E4000, that's missing texture

[vapid hawk]

on my real n64 digital i tend to crop 1-2px off every edge just to keep it tidy looking

[daring meteor]

It's one of the fake modes

[vapid hawk]

yeah re2 has a green line down its right edge (on real hardware) iirc

[zenith orchid]

So on Killer Instinct gold you can go into a practice battle

But as soon as you give the fighter any input the game hangs

[vapid hawk]

ooh a crash on input? robert loves those

[zenith orchid]

yes in practice you can still quit the battle and go back to the main menu

it actually doesn't crash in practice, surprisingly

just the battle hangs

you can still exit

[vapid hawk]

so just like, press punch and it crashes ?

[zenith orchid]

or movement

[vapid hawk]

instantly?

[zenith orchid]

the battle only hangs when a fighter receives input

cpu or player

so maybe that's all it uses TLB for

okay so far on one occasion it didn't go into battle in practice

[quick arch]

KI uses TLB

[zenith orchid]

it seems to only use it on fighter input

And I think that's why the the fighters typically take the appearance of each other

they're accessing the same part of physical memory due to lack of TLB

new patreon post

[wanton sun]

wow, so many things fixed? i only wanted to have the few texts in Pokemon Stadium that have been missing, what did i do? 😅

[daring meteor]

Robert ♥️ Tiny fixes which affect lots of games

[wanton sun]

yes, overscan remove need to be done when the async VI is there. some PAL games also need them

[rose elbow]

magic!

[zenith orchid]

Yeah that one update was huge for the THPS games. somehow it fixed the texture glitching in THPS3 and the shadow issue in THPS2

[rose elbow]

also fixed Beetle Adventure Racing, and more importantly, HSV Adventure Racing :D

i'm still looking at original hardware and Rogue Squadron is boggling my brain what it's trying to do loool

[zenith orchid]

ah I heard so much about beetle adventure racing. I must try it

[rose elbow]

Rogue Squadron on original hardware, what is this resolution doing

[little socket]

You should revert the merge due to unintended sideeffects

[vapid hawk]

i looked around and there is a widescreen hack for rogue squadron so i don't think its meant to be widescreen 😄

[rose elbow]

it's so odd LOL

[little socket]

Cannot have things suddenly work

[vapid hawk]

try looking at the radar ingame, its pretty big and meant to be a perfect circle

[rose elbow]

but the menus at the start of the game are widescreen but letterboxed 🤔

[vapid hawk]

oh so its like the letterboxing isn't working on the core?

[rose elbow]

yeah

[vapid hawk]

i wonder if it uses that VI downscale

except... that was meant to be working

[rose elbow]

and then the game menu also has a Normal Resolution and High Resolution modes

[vapid hawk]

nice patreon article

it kinda sounds like... with all these features in the core would be really fast

[rose elbow]

^ this video is Rogue Squadron on original hardware on High Resolution mode.
at the 8 second mark, it switches to a letterboxed widescreen mode. on the MiSTer core, this image gets stretched to 4:3

sorry to be focusing on something not necessarily addressed in the recent update, i'm just finding this curious and odd 😆

hopefully helpful

[zenith orchid]

it's so close on the core. the text is only buggy when you are entering the name it seems

[rose elbow]

the game is doing weird things jumping around resolutions so much

[zenith orchid]

I guess the retrotink 4K will have no problem identifying that game

[rose elbow]

the MiSTer core is getting the resolutions wrong when it jumps around

switching between OG hardware and MiSTer is really funny

i completely lose track which is which

[zenith orchid]

hmm, could it be an issue related to VI;async

[quaint pewter]

That just proves how amazing it is. It really is something special if you don't know if you are playing real hardware or not at some point. Preservation of a tricky beast like the N64 makes me very happy.

[lament escarp]

I see the transfer pack hype has calmed down. 😅

[brisk edge]

I dunno, I'm enjoying playing laggy weird Pokemon on the GB tower lol I just need to sit down and try to get my cart save dumped and converted

[worldly quartz]

So transfer pak emu only works with pokemon games?

[silent marten]

For now yeah

[blissful plaza]

I was away these last 7-8 days, and tried to launch Dr. Mario 64 just a moment ago.
Nice work, it works well now with the last test version.

[wild pulsar]

@wanton sun you may allready know that : the FPS overlay is not visible on a CRT
(i know that CRT is not a priority, i can live without FPS display 😋)

[wanton sun]

i don't want to move it further into the image, it's so annoying there

[wanton sun]

the video out currently always forces 4:3. usually it should have black lines above and below the image, however, those are cut out by vblank currently

still need to decide if the core will have a fixed viewport (like psx with fixed vblank and hblank) or if variable vblank with aspect ratio calculation is needed

usually i would go for variable vblank as i hate black bars, but n64 doesn't really have much of them anyway

[wild pulsar]

Thanks for the explanation, as always i learn a lot reading you 🤓

[daring meteor]

Isn't that set by the N64 itself, or no?

[rose elbow]

i didnt realize until just today just how weird Rogue Squadron was in that regard. it was confusing me for a minute there 😅

[wanton sun]

the n64 sets the output resolution and on a real n64 with either digital out or on a crt you get black bars

however, we can decide that we remove those black bars for hdmi and scale the image larger

[daring meteor]

Ah

[wanton sun]

most screens have more width then the original 4:3, so if lines in y direction are black anway, we could scale

the question is if we should

[daring meteor]

I play on a CRT anyway so I don't really care haha

[rose elbow]

oooh. just looked, Rogue Squadron looks correct on CRT

[wanton sun]

with psx it caused a lot of trouble, so maybe i start with fixed vblank. that will look like crt/digital modded n64 then. Probably covers 95%+

[rose elbow]

i wonder how many games this applies to

[wanton sun]

basically all, as most games render at 237 lines height, causing a slight black bar all the time

but 3 pixels seem acceptable

[zenith orchid]

Dr Mario is perfect now?

[daring meteor]

Alrighty, new mister main made, hopefully I don't brick my sd card

[twin torrent]

Cool, S.C.A.R.S. is rendering textures correclty now!, the game is so much fun. Thanks @wanton sun!!

[brisk drum]

Gotta love Wednesday’s!! Woke up to a new build!! I bet this fixes the missing text in no mercy and Wrestlemania 2000

[twin torrent]

There are a copule other games with texture rendering/flickering issues, both are using the same engine so no surprise there:
Stunt Racer (USA)
World Driver Championship (USA)

[cerulean elk]

Fun stuff. Thanks for the heads up @fair stump and @zenith orchid

Looks like I’ll have to make a new vid for tomorrow at 4. Got some Halloween stuff lined up for this afternoon that has to go out

[crisp monolith]

Tested out old builds to see where the change happened that is causing a jittery image on my CRT

Looks like it was the 10/1 build that introduced "VI: change video timing to match required frequency for CRTs (values by MikeS)"

Mario 64 before

Mario 64 after

[daring meteor]

Maybe the refresh rate does

I can try and make a build with lower refresh rate

Than ping MikeS about it

Oh yeah

@crisp monolith Can you try PAL games?

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks, I wanna try and get a video done, hopefully I can find some time today.

[hybrid spade]

Someone else will have done it, but Star Fox 64 is Complete!

[fallen sparrow]

Sweet

[hybrid spade]

Just ran through it on today's core.

[crisp monolith]

They don’t boot for me

[daring meteor]

Don't boot?

Is your TV PAL compatible

[crisp monolith]

Yes the games just don't work - same on my OLED

Tried the current core as well

[chrome quest]

Not at MiSTer but can at least say PAL games on the 10/23 YC core look pretty good. If there is jitter in Mario64 it's so tiny as to not be visible.
On the other hand, Stadium 1/2 jitter quiet a bit more than original hardware in menus (could all be interlaced I think). I'd not reported any of that given the clock and such is not implemented yet for CRT.

[daring meteor]

Oh right do you have the BIOS

[crisp monolith]

Oh that might be it!

[daring meteor]

Interlaced right now isn't correctly implemented

As least in regards to video out

[chrome quest]

Might still be worth @crisp monolith checking for comparison when you have the issue.

[hybrid spade]

most PAL games are booting for me, but I'm on HDMI/PC Monitor.

[daring meteor]

Build should be done in 5 minutes

It should not affect PAL stuff that's why I asked

[chrome quest]

I did play NTSC Mario64 not long ago on YC on CRT too, and it was fine. Something else going on perhaps? Don't know

[chrome quest]

Are you using direct video? Just curious, I've had no issues, using Analog IO board

[crisp monolith]

I'm using the analog IO board

Will test PAL games if I can find the BIOS lol

[daring meteor]

My build should be done in like a minute so don't test yet

@crisp monolith

[crisp monolith]

Still jittery

[crisp monolith]

Using the analog IO board

[daring meteor]

Must be the Hsync than

Pinging @modern sleet

[marble cargo]

Anyone else experiencing a bug where the Dpad on the NSO controller is failing to recognize the up input in the core?

It's not the dpad being broken, since it still recognizes the input on the OSD menus.

[wanton sun]

if it works in the OSD it's just the mapping

either it's not mapped or you have some double mapping

[marble cargo]

I've repeatedly fixed the mapping and the core doesn't recognize it.

And I know it's specifically the Nintendo 64 core, because other cores recognize the input like normal.

[wanton sun]

but the core only received the up information from main, it is not aware of what controller you use

so it makes no sense it received a different up than e.g. the psx core

it's not that i don't believe what you say, i just have no idea 😳

[vapid hawk]

try deleting all the controller mapping files for the n64 core

maybe somethings weirdly stuck

[toxic pumice]

honestly i go to work, I check discord at lunch, a new update has been pushed that fixes a ton of stuff??? again?

lol

[cerulean elk]

lol I woke up to this

[marble cargo]

Still getting that input bug despite clearing everything out, updating my files, remapping multiple times, etc.

Something is just wonky with the core.

[cerulean elk]

try diff controller?

[nimble needle]

I've a port open on my router for mister.local so I can update_all before I finish work. All because of Roberts blistering pace 🥲

[toxic pumice]

bit risky opening it up to the net at large but good shout!

[iron dove]

just to make sure, you deleted input_057e_2019_v3.map and N64_input_057e_2019_v3.map, then mapped in main then core again?

[marble cargo]

Others work like intended, it's only the NSO Nintendo 64 controller I have that is acting wonky with the core specifically.

[nimble needle]

I moved the SSH to a randomly large port number so now I can safely update_all from my bicycle

[toxic pumice]

lol, fair enough. 🙂

[vapid hawk]

visual bugs in vigilante8 and f1 world grand prix seem cleared up today

biohazard2 still freezes reliably at the stars office door

[toxic pumice]

asking about the games we all care about - does the menu now appear on bio freaks?

gotta have my poverty fighting game fix

[nimble needle]

Today's release notes mention a fix for text in THPS2. Does that also include Tony Hawk 1?

[vapid hawk]

yeah i think so

it fixed a lot of games

[cerulean elk]

capturing some stuff now

got a busy day so knocking it out BEFORE coffee

[toxic pumice]

top gear rally fixed?!

[toxic pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/soccer-angry-mad-football-gif-12001829

[nimble needle]

Brilliant thanks.

[cerulean elk]

THPS 3 looking good

[toxic pumice]

that'll be the next thing to play I reckon, even though I enjoyed the PSX versions

Getting stuck into Top Gear Rally will be good now that I can actually see what i'm doing in the menues

[cerulean elk]

THPS 2 also looking great

[woeful beacon]

Wonder if you have the controller in a weird mode or is it paired with anything?

I'll test mine later today if it helps but I don't recall any issues like this

[cerulean elk]

odd I cant ollie in TPHS 1

[fair stump]

C down

They changed it to A in 2

[cerulean elk]

bingo. I worked back from 3

lol powerpuff girls is such a bad game

onto BAR. A good game lol

intro already seems better IMO

no hitching between segments...last I checked it loved to black screen

[modern sleet]

What did you try to change ?

[daring meteor]

htotal back

To 3980

[modern sleet]

The only other thing different was extending the Hsync which was causing issues anyways on all other tvs

[daring meteor]

It didn't work, so its the hsync

(Also, while we're at it - I think interlaced output currently is fine on Digital, so needs to be done for analog)

[modern sleet]

Interlaced works fine currently for games like nhl99 I've tested

[daring meteor]

Really?

It looks progressive for me

Lemme try, I didn't try this specific game

[modern sleet]

Robert introduced it a few builds back

[modern sleet]

What kind of tv?

[daring meteor]

NHL is progressive for me

What happens is that, the half line offset isn't implemented, so the fields just overlap eachother

[modern sleet]

Ah, so you get the flicker but it's not really interlaced?

[daring meteor]

Yeah

It can be hard to see

[modern sleet]

Especially on a 8inch pvm haha

[daring meteor]

Haha, that's what you're testing on? Funny TV

[worldly quartz]

is bangaio level 2 working yet?

[daring meteor]

Well anyway you would need to change vsync so it would be offset by a half line on one field of the output, and I think add a line otherwise, and neither are done right now

[cerulean elk]

Ok I got THPS 1/2/3, powderpuff girls, shoercrows (ugh that game) and BAR. I have time this afternoon to get a few more. What am I missing?

[daring meteor]

For games that improved today?

[fair stump]

Dr mario

[cerulean elk]

I have that monster truck game too

[cerulean elk]

Shit yeah ok good call

[fair stump]

Looking through the USA set and the notes everything is looking so solid now

[marble cargo]

So I deleted both files and tried again. Still reproduces the same effect.

[cerulean elk]

Oh Top Gear Rally. Need that one too

[daring meteor]

Beetle Adventure Racing

[iron dove]

Hmm only other thing I can think of is deleting anything starting with N64 in /config
Does it act the same via USB and Bluetooth?

[marble cargo]

Both USB and Bluetooth behave the same.

Like I said, this is a core specific issue. Only the Nintendo 64 core has this problem.

[iron dove]

@cerulean elk the tv screens in blast corps are fixed

[cerulean elk]

I’ll save that for later but awesome!

I am busy this week so I’m gonna squeak this one out today for tomorrow

[iron dove]

Yeah, was suggesting deleting the core's config files not just the controller ones of your haven't already

*if

[weary perch]

another huge update 😮

[crisp monolith]

Sony KV-M1440

[modern sleet]

Have you seen any other cores do this ?

[daring meteor]

Let's see if my interlace core works

[drowsy lantern]

Time to get movin'!

[cerulean elk]

Another impressive update. Getting all the THPS games working was awesome. But the real win for me was Beetle Adventure Racing. Seems great now

[solemn marlin]

Suddenly all tony hawks are perfect

[cerulean elk]

Still gotta get Dr Mario and Top Gear Rally but THPS seems to be the real winner this round

[daring meteor]

Beetle Adventure racing still needs fog

[solemn marlin]

Yea, really liking shorting down the music to just the good parts 🧐

Jk but they look great, immense fog in the third one tho

[nimble needle]

Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 manual. You can all read it on the way home to your Misters' 👍

[zealous hull]

So, it seems the Transfer Pak pads the N64/GB save, yeah?

I'm curious if it wouldn't be possible to just store GB saves in the N64 directory itself and power users can just symlink the saves together GB <-> N64. Maybe there is a limitation there I'm unaware of.

[cerulean elk]

Somewhere on one of my raid drives in my closet I’ve got some footage of Tony Hawk skating in San Francisco I shot back in the day. I wonder if I can find it before I edit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icer_Air

The stupidest event I’ve ever had the pleasure of participating in 😂 disaster from go

[nimble needle]

That would be cool to see 🙂

[cerulean elk]

They did bad math and there was not enough speed / not enough tang to get any kind of actual air

[nimble needle]

The day awbacon said "fuck this. Im collecting obscure arcade boards instead"

[cerulean elk]

Did get to do a little batting practice before they built the ramp though. That was fun

[cerulean elk]

Lol 2008 financial crisis killed my ski film business. Along with most everyone else I knew doing the same thing

[zinc dew]

tree / Sky textures fixed in beetle racing adventure?

[cerulean elk]

Ok ok off topic. But it is Tony Hawk related. Tangent 🤣

[zinc dew]

Sorry to hear dude

[cerulean elk]

Looked good to me

I can’t remember about trees now. That’s what I get for capturing before coffee lol

[fair stump]

Trees are good

[cerulean elk]

Eh it’s fine. I stopped being a piece of shit road warrior who lived out of suitcases and started dating my wife. I win

Finite time limit in that business. Your body gives out. I would jump with my camera following athletes. My knees are a combination of pig and cadaver ACLs lol. You are physically done by the time you are 30

[nimble needle]

Fuck that sucks for ya. Fuck that recession too in fairness. Though would be have a fully functioning N64 core without it though? 🤔

[cerulean elk]

If you make it that far. I’ve been to PLENTY of friends funerals that had a bad day on skis and it was their last

Admittedly all very fun funerals though lol. Big parties in their honor

[crisp monolith]

Nope

[iron dove]

#1096015979055697940 message

[modern sleet]

Odd the changes only fix issues on most CRTs, @hollow orbit did you have any issues on your Sony?

[zealous hull]

Hey thanks for the link. I never saw that.

[zenith orchid]

THPS 1 and 2 look so much more like the dreamcast ports. although dreamcast I think had fancier lighting and slightly higher resolution textures. but they play pretty much the same

I'm tempted to play all the way through both games now

[mild ether]

Has anyone got the chance to test the non working Aleck 64 games with this new build? The problem seems to be controller related.

At least that is why I suspect it loads into the service menu rather than the game menu.

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun you make me happy whenever I see a new test build. You really are an amazing developer.

It’s not about preservation it’s about loving it. We do this because we love these systems and these games.

[cerulean elk]

you make me happy because you remind me of Guillermo

Dr Mario testing time. Then Top Gear Rally

then Pepsiman to vet for his last round of kitten shots

the N64 core cat!

[plush summit]

My proudest pickup

[lament escarp]

What's the general opinion on tony hawks underground? It's my most played Tony hawk and I still play it regularly with friends.

[plush summit]

THUG 1 is amazing, definitely my favorite next to 3

[cerulean elk]

Dr Mario looks legit

[lament escarp]

@cerulean elk I'm kinda busy this week so I rely on your vids to keep updated. Don't get lazy!

Discord is dying.

[cerulean elk]

Ive got a video in progress for tomorrow and another for the weekend

[hollow rune]

Has anyone tried Dr Mario 64 story on hard? It is humbling

[cerulean elk]

Dr Mario on NORMAL is humbling

shit moves fAST

[elfin depot]

I have VS Dr.Mario on my red tent, as a sadist move I thought I'd try it with all the DIPS on the hardest settings:
Drop Rate Increases After 7 pills
Virus Level 7
Drop Speed up Fast

Yeah I didn't last two levels.

[hollow rune]

When I did a Normal playthrough I did think, so what will hard be like? This is pretty tough. I thing to beat hard you have to always be tossing garbage

[weary perch]

not to go too far offtopic, but if you haven't seen/played THUG Pro, you gotta try it. heavily modded underground with incredible amounts of content

[teal sail]

@modern sleet I also use Sony 29inch consumer CRT via RGB SCART, all interlaced games I've tested are looking like they run in 240p but just wobble up and down, resolution does not increase

[daring meteor]

I am now trying to increase the resolution

[zinc dew]

Yeah? Is that game rare now or something?

[plush summit]

as far as I know, its still pretty cheap and its 360 compatible

I believe its a remake using THPS3's engine but includes both 1+2 levels

[uncut gyro]

Have you tried disabling VI effects to see if that “fixes” it? I’m guessing it’s alpha coverage/miscalculation, but more data to narrow could be useful

[prisma ivy]

I too wish you could skip the cutscenes. It takes far too long to jump into SF64

[uncut gyro]

Diddy Kong water as well? Or is that an orthogonal issue completely?

[daring meteor]

Diddy is still there

[brisk drum]

Anybody check the wrassslin games to see if the missing text is there ?

[weary perch]

the RR64 one is actually a semi-regression, the textures looked correct on the cars in the older builds where the road was still broken

[brisk drum]

Specifically Wrestlemania 2000 and no mercy

[cerulean elk]

all edited. VO after Pepsiman and ship it

[fair stump]

I didn't see any difference

[weary perch]

can see it in this VGE video where he shows the older build https://youtu.be/Ve5b0pwRDHQ?si=JIAFWJ6fe5fz5MFr&t=585 (timestamped to 9:45)

[zenith orchid]

Oh yeah that one is like a directors cut. I think it actually uses the THPS 3 engine, but without reverts

[vapid hawk]

its 720p too iirc

[zenith orchid]

it looks really good though

yeah they really modernized it to Xbox standard

[thorn flax]

had a scan thru games I know to not display menu text. currently the only one I know of that no one else has mentioned was Brunswick Circuit Pro

that's still a bunch a blank

[toxic pumice]

Bio freaks gotta work now hopefully

[daring meteor]

Well I wrote something but it doesn't seem to toggle the line

Unless I'm missing anything

[marble cargo]

Purple water is still there, so it sounds like a different issue.

[orchid nimbus]

Dr Mario now 100%

Yay!!!!

[vapid hawk]

nice

[thorn flax]

I'm shocked at how hard it is. can't beat anything on even normal

[languid dune]

And the N64 core updates keep on coming!

[vapid hawk]

are you looking at the interlacing thing? psx had that early on, might be some clues there

[thorn flax]

the player piece is very sticky once it makes contact you're sol if you want to drag it around

[languid dune]

Any other revelations outside of the update notes?

[daring meteor]

PSX had that in march

[marble cargo]

Dr. Mario is really punishing if you make a mistake with where you place the pills.

[daring meteor]

I was writing about it and its how I got it haha

[thorn flax]

the tony hawks

[mild ether]

I was getting freezing on the last core in Dr Mario.

[daring meteor]

For some reason it seems the vsync signal isn't triggering on the middle of the line

[thorn flax]

scroll back to about the time the core was posted and everyone found the improvements within an hour it seems

[vapid hawk]

a bunch of games with weird text/sprite/texture issues are all cleared up: tony hawks1/2/3, vigilante 8 (both of them), f1 world grand prix

[twin torrent]

Also S.C.A.R.S was fixed today

[thorn flax]

what a day

[vapid hawk]

definitely a good day for the core 🙂

[teal sail]

Top Gear Rally (first) still has buggy road texture, also World Driver Championship has almost every texture messed up still

[twin torrent]

Visual bugs are getting harder to come across lately

[twin torrent]

And Stunt Racer, same engine as World Driver Championship

[daring meteor]

If anyone else wanna look at it because I don't see here what I'm doing wrong

[vapid hawk]

perfect is going to jump up really fast when those last few features are in 😄

[orchid nimbus]

I would say Dr Mario is perfect now

[thorn flax]

is that the only perfect entry?

the thin cyan line

[vapid hawk]

nah we're waiting for async video and a few other features before declaring anything perfect

[daring meteor]

Perfect is empty until vi async

[thorn flax]

ahh

so, all but perfect

[marble cargo]

So what exactly does the async do anyway?

[daring meteor]

Video timings

[vapid hawk]

probably a lot of speed tweaks too, outside of games that just always hit a perfect 30/60 anyway

[weary perch]

Bio FREAKS is not fixed on 1025, still is missing lots of 2D elements

[teal sail]

Also Tonic Trouble Main menu background messed up

[thorn flax]

it's cool that a game is fully in line with what the dev has built of the core so far

[thorn flax]

as in, a regression? or has it always been that way?

[weary perch]

always been that way

[languid dune]

The perfect halloween core update will be Resident Evil 2's FMVs getting fixed. Make it happen Robert! ||Please don't actually take demands from this unhinged N64 fan.||

[vapid hawk]

isn't the fmv in re2 already fixed?

i watched a bunch the other day

[languid dune]

They're stretched vertically.

[vapid hawk]

oh, yeah the AR is weird

[languid dune]

Unless that was fixed in the last few days.

[vapid hawk]

no you're right i think its still off

[weary perch]

games are forced to 4:3 currently so anything with letterboxing is stretched vertically currently

[vapid hawk]

yeah it was discussed earlier re: rogue squadron

[teal sail]

Always it seems

[vapid hawk]

re2 fmv used to have tons of massive artifacts all over though and thats fixed 🙂

[weary perch]

those FMVs, hi res half in Top Gear Overdrive, Rogue Squadron, World Driver Championship letterbox mode

[vapid hawk]

PD has a letterbox mode too, not sure if its affected or not

[weary perch]

anyone tried stadium with pokemon yellow yet?

wasn't sure if that one worked yet

looks like it is just MBC5 so should work, cool

[languid dune]

I don't see why it wouldn't work if the other versions work.

Though I haven't tested it myself.

[mortal apex]

I did, seems to work fine. I tried both the virtual transfer pak and a real one with snac.

[brisk drum]

Sad face

[mortal apex]

I wonder if theres a way to extract a save file from a pokemon cartridge and store it on mister using snac.

[worn delta]

Nice, good to get these all checked. Has anyone been brave enough to try the half dozen Japanese games that utilise transfer Pak?

[weary perch]

if this homebrew app runs, maybe? http://micro-64.com/features/gbromdumping.shtml

gb64

might only work on an everdrive

there's also this one which seems 64drive specific https://lacklustre.net/n64/agbd/

[hollow orbit]

Just loaded latest YC Beta and seems to be fine.

[mortal apex]

Thanks for the pointer, I will look into it tonight

[timber field]

Has anyone tried loading N64 games via .mgl files? With the settings here (https://github.com/wizzomafizzo/mrext/blob/main/docs/systems.md#nintendo-64), it doesn't auto-load the save data. But it does load save data if you load the ROM via the core menu option.

Sample MGL that isn't working:

<mistergamedescription><rbf>_Console/N64</rbf><file delay="1" type="f" index="1" path="Blast Corps.zip/Blast Corps.n64" /></mistergamedescription>

[cerulean elk]

Pepsiman tax 🤣 the official kitten of the N64 core Lolol

He does not like the vet

[orchid nimbus]

is that the vet?

[modern sleet]

I'll have a look tonight

[daring meteor]

Alrighty, thank you

[cerulean elk]

Nah new passport photo 🤣 (yeah it’s the vet)

Pepsiman was feeling handsome for the camera haha

[zenith orchid]

perhaps after VI async, noticeable timing differences should be the next defining factor.

especially in cut scenes and demos

I don't think Dr. Mario 64 has noticeable timing issues, but I'll leave that to those with original hardware to determine

[noble escarp]

Hello everyone, does the Mario 64 Multiplayer mod work? I tried doing the multiplayer patch then the no face patch, but it only shows a white screen after selecting a save

[solemn marlin]

Not working for me tbh

Black screen after logo tho so might be the face thing

[noble escarp]

Bummer, i got it one frame in by making a new game but it freezes right away

[solemn marlin]

I think a guy talked about playing it so someone else should confirm

[tender pine]

Might this core get a public release before Xmas?

[hasty kayak]

We might be playing games on it by Xmas.

Possibly 1 or 2?

[chilly ember]

I think the goal is to have one game working by christmas

[hasty kayak]

Yep that is exactly what I heard too. Mario Kart 64

[tender pine]

That would be some Xmas!

Personally, selfishly, I would love Wave Race over Mario Kart.

[hasty kayak]

https://i.gifer.com/1Y8o.mp4

[tender pine]

Basically that would be me.

[hasty kayak]

NINTENDOOO SIXTTTYY FOURRRRR!!! EYES WIDE OPEN!

[tender pine]

That and Wave Race and I'm good for months.

God N64 is good.

[orchid nimbus]

Robert when the walls fell

[zinc dew]

I love Star Wars references

[stone pilot]

Robert, and Sergiy, at Terasic

[orchid nimbus]

his arms wide - his VI smooth

[stone pilot]

What?

That's from Lord of the Rings

[elfin depot]

Everytime I'm driving at night on the highway and I encounter someone oncoming with their brights on that won't dim I click mine on and say "It's over, I have the high ground!"

[chrome quest]

🤦‍♂️ Chaka

[zenith orchid]

sheesh, dr mario in marathon mode is intense

[daring meteor]

(By the way, if you want it now, #test-builds has the N64 core, works perfect with Mario Kart and Wave race (workaround needed for shindou)

(People like to joke that there will be 1 working game by xmas cause Robert said that once)

[tender pine]

Yeah, thanks. I've seen many games already very playable but I'm the type who likes to wait for these things to become public.

Delayed gratification sort of lol.

[worn delta]

The core is probably more stable than a number of cores that are public in main, like Saturn and ax68000

[daring meteor]

Haha, fair enough, than you get everything at once, but checking the newest test build to see a new game working is quite fun

Well not working nowadays

Rendered without bugs haha

[tender pine]

Glad you said it @worn delta I recently tried the Saturn core since like you say it went public but still felt for me WAY off.

[chrome quest]

Mario 64 multiplayer mod works. The key is the great @weary palm tool; https://github.com/yxkalle/MarioDefacer/releases/tag/1.0b
Apply the multiplayer mod first, then drag and drop the modified ROM onto the exe

[vapid hawk]

every developer gets to chose when they make their core public really

robert maybe a little later than most - but thats because he has daily public builds available

[cerulean elk]

Some high praise 🤣

[desert crow]

I checked the numbers, he just barely got beat out by the wheel

[cerulean elk]

Makes sense. I need wheels to drive to @brisk drum moms house

[fallow reef]

What is the workaround for shindou? I know you can change save types but I think that preventing you from being able to save? I might be wrong though

[daring meteor]

Change the save type back to save

[brisk drum]

That cat looks weak af!

[cerulean elk]

I seem to tire out all the pu....wait nvm too far too far 🤣

[brisk drum]

Yeah bro you don’t want Robby in here banning yo ass

[fallow reef]

Ahhh okay. I will try that. Thank you.

[noble escarp]

Awesome! Thank you! I figured there was something i was missing.

[solemn marlin]

Yea works great now 👍The framerate isn't stellar even if it isn't unplayable, is it much different from original console?

[vagrant ivy]

Its in devlopment

that it works at all is a miracle

[quaint pewter]

It's certainly miraculous.

[orchid nimbus]

perfect for @cerulean elk 😄 😄 😄

[cerulean elk]

Pepsiman is the official cat of N64 channel

[orchid nimbus]

added to the meme page

[eternal ravine]

Does anyone use texture filtering with the PSX core? Makes some games look pret-ty nice

[cerulean elk]

feeling good? Pikachu is staying around

[lament escarp]

Which platform?

[solemn marlin]

I need to be spoonfed which thps is best and whether they stack up to the playstation versions

[cerulean elk]

2 is best and no PS1 / Dreamcast versions are preferred IMO

[solemn marlin]

Hm so it seems 🧐

[quaint pewter]

Tony Hawks 2 on Dreamcast was my first experience and it was never topped I don't think.

[topaz otter]

wow I just found out that the atari jaguar is public domain

anyone can make games for it and sell them

[worn delta]

That would be something really interesting to talk about in the Jaguar channel

[dusty tusk]

Thps was really designed for the PS1 controller

It's just a shame it ran better everywhere else 🥲

[weary perch]

THUG Pro is a mod of the PC version of underground 1

[dusty tusk]

Underground 2 actually

[weary perch]

ah there you go

it's got levels from effectively every Tony Hawk game and oodles of extra content

very worth checking out

[lament escarp]

I only play it on gc.

[dusty tusk]

No goals though, so it's mostly scoring and free skate

[daring meteor]

Why are there two well regarded video games from 2004 named Underground 2

[chilly ember]

The games aren't even underground

[lament escarp]

I prefer medal of honor underground. Together with the first one and frontline it's my favorite ww2 shooter trilogy. Everything after that was... not that great.

[daring meteor]

Waiting for Underground 3 (my favorate arena/race course/skate park is Bakerloo line)

[languid dune]

He also forgot F-Zero!

[cerulean elk]

It’s impressive just how bad you Wisconsinites are at spelling Bomberman Hero

[toxic pumice]

alright i dunno if this is a hot take or not, but GT64 might legitimately be one of the most criminally underrated racing games i've played?

The handling model has completely clicked with me and it feels incredibly satisfying??

[mortal panther]

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/04/charles_martinet_voice_of_mario_clears_up_a_decades-long_debate

[chilly ember]

Are there any emulators that run on gameboy?

[toxic pumice]

are we trying to see how far we can go

[mortal panther]

Emuception

[surreal summit]

https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Emulators_on_GB/GBC

[toxic pumice]

GT64 - Championship Edition, completable.