Nintendo 64

[vapid hawk]

shadow.. gate ?

[zinc dew]

Yes

12 trials

[vapid hawk]

really neat

[zinc dew]

Shadowgate > Turok

[zinc dawn]

Hmmm. I do like the expanded multi player but GE> PD because of Bond

[zinc dew]

Bond > Joanna Dark

[vapid hawk]

did you guys know there are some really cool GE romhacks?

like entire new single player campaigns

[zinc dawn]

Yeah like Goldeneye X

[zinc dew]

I want to play that

[zinc dawn]

And the hd hack

Mario Goldeneye

Goldfinger

[zinc dew]

There’s goldfinger but it doesn’t work yet sadly

[zinc dawn]

Spy Who Loved Me

[vapid hawk]

definitely going to be checking those out after the core is final

[zinc dawn]

Yeah the Goldfinger is good but the levels are just too big

I played them on my everdrive

[zinc dew]

Everdrive > Neverdrive

[vapid hawk]

i'm thinking of dropping my n64 out of my setup at this point

maybe put an xbox360 there

[zinc dawn]

Yeah definitely

I have OG Xbox, Xbox 360, Need an Xbox Series X

Sold my genesis, snes, ps1

Ps3

One FPGA to rule them all

[vapid hawk]

heh i just got a ps3

[zinc dawn]

Yeah I'm not a fan. Apart from MGS4

[zinc dew]

Still have all my original systems hooked up

I just play on my MiSTer though

[vapid hawk]

ridge racer7 seems neat, i've not really played it much yet though just been getting it setup

[zinc dawn]

The PS2 was just wayyyy better.

[zinc dew]

the N64 core has already replaced my N64 because of convenience

[zinc dawn]

Yeah no scalers

Or CRTs

Or RGB mods

[zinc dew]

360 was far superior to PS3 imo

[zinc dawn]

Yeah I agree

[vapid hawk]

like, empirically yes

[zinc dawn]

Even though I LOVE playstation

[zinc dew]

Me too

[vapid hawk]

my modded 360 has like, 200+ titles on it, my ps3 has like 35

[zinc dew]

PS1/PS2/PS4 are all incredible

[zinc dawn]

Indeed.

[vapid hawk]

and i really went out of my way to find anything that was a worthwhile exclusive or somehow better on ps3

[zinc dawn]

PS5 I just got

[vapid hawk]

the ps move games are neat, thats a lot of them really

[zinc dawn]

It's great for playing PS4 games

[zinc dew]

3D Dot Game Heroes is great

[zinc dawn]

And it doesn't sound like a jet engine. I don't have any PS5 exclusives.

I was considering a switch to play N64 but not needed thanks to Robert

[vapid hawk]

ratchet and clank is the best ps5 exclusive (excluding psvr2 stuff) imo

[cerulean elk]

Finally you say something smart! I knew it would happen eventually

[zinc dew]

thank you for believing in me

[zinc dawn]

I never played rachet

[vapid hawk]

it was the first one i played heh

its super slick, technically amazing does stuff that really justifies the hardware

[zinc dawn]

Nice. I am also looking forward to Alan Wake, DS2 and SH2 🙂 I've held out this long to buy it (traded in my PS3 and games for it) lol

[vapid hawk]

i can't wait for the resident evil4 remake vr mode

[zinc dawn]

I don't have VR

I tried it

You know I hooked up goldeneye to my psvr

It was interesting

[vapid hawk]

i got absolutely obsessed with that synthriders dancing game, i play like minimum an hour a day

[zinc dawn]

And I tried playing Resident Evil 7 but too scart

[vapid hawk]

yeah i wish they'd port that over to psvr2 i never played it

its crazy, like actually crazy how much more intense horror games are in VR

[zinc dawn]

Yeah they are absolutely horrifying

Can't you play resident evil 7 with a psvr 2 on a ps4?

I mean ps5

[weary beacon]

Forgive me if this is a stupid question... how can I get the Switch NSO N64 controller to work reliably via wired connection? It keeps cutting out and the Green/Orange LEDs go on/off. Works fine on Switch

[zinc dew]

No PSVR1 games work with a PSVR2, they have to be patched to work for the new device

Which is one of the reasons why the PSVR2 is dead

[little socket]

It died due to sony's decision to initially only sell it via their own online store

And people being cheap couch operators

[neat sierra]

I can’t even bring myself to buy a PS5 based on the offering let alone additional PSVR2 with no software. What a weirdly successful generation for Sony despite a lackluster system

Too bad since PSVR has some great experiences and it would be nice to have seen that continue to advance.

[marble cargo]

I would argue even the Xbox Series has more value, simply because of the backwards compatibility and how piss easy it is to run homebrew.

[little socket]

But only the demons souls machine plays demons souls

[cerulean elk]

I have both. They mostly collect dust

I had to dust my PSVR2 controller off for my Quest 3 vid

I dunno why Sony made new VR hardware if they didnt feel like giving it a solid library

[fair stump]

Couldn't you say the same about their handhelds?

[abstract slate]

My uncle says he can only play PSVR for 10 minutes at a time before he needs a break.

So maybe that library is all he needs

[quaint pewter]

I have ps3 demon souls.. and a ps3... but also RPCS3

[abstract slate]

maybe that was Sony's brilliant plan

As I'm typing it, I am realizing how bad an idea that is.

[abstract slate]

Do you have a recommendation for which 360 mod? I've tried to look it up a few times and it's a little confusing/overwelming.

[little socket]

But do you have hdr+emasrered graphics and a heavily breathing character?

[viscid quiver]

Any idea on. (FORCED 60FPS)

[vapid hawk]

erm, not really i just kinda yolo'd it from a random ebayer sorry

[abstract slate]

haha no worries

[vapid hawk]

i'm pretty sure there's better mods out now than the one i have aswell

[viscid quiver]

Maybe atleast in some of the more primitive games?

[abstract slate]

I probably won't dig it out of the closet for awhile. Maybe the mods will make more sense by then.

I just found a ps2 at a thrift store.

[vapid hawk]

honestly for how cheap pre-modded ones are i wouldn't even bother modding yours

there's specific later models you really want anyway - the slim ones after they fully fixed rrod

[abstract slate]

I think that's what I have

[vapid hawk]

they aren't really considered retro yet quite so prices are still pretty reasonable

you could always chat to a modder about what'd fit your console best

[abstract slate]

wow they are as cheap or cheaper than ever

[abstract slate]

that's a good idea

great. well I have something to do after I learn what this ps2 is.

[orchid nimbus]

morning, what's goin on here today

[abstract slate]

good morning. You're up early.

[orchid nimbus]

workday starts at 6:00am

6:23 now

[abstract slate]

oh. my mistake. what took you so long?

[orchid nimbus]

booting computer / reading e-mails / making coffee

[abstract slate]

oh yeah that sounds right.

This week I am learning what a ps2 is.

looks pretty cool

[orchid nimbus]

PS2 connector or console?

[abstract slate]

console

ps2 connectors are cool too

[orchid nimbus]

legacy

[abstract slate]

I wish I had one

[viscid quiver]

Bunch working jerks around here

[orchid nimbus]

30 minutes in - and I'm done with my daily tasks

whatever shall I do with the rest of my time

[viscid quiver]

That's efficiency

[orchid nimbus]

it's automation

[viscid quiver]

Yeah I'm just sitting here watching a machine grind metal.

Ya gotta love it.

Real Homer Simpson here

[orchid nimbus]

what machine?

lathe?

[viscid quiver]

Cylindrical Grinder

[orchid nimbus]

oh high precision

you're 0.000000001mm out of spec

[viscid quiver]

I am a Machinist by trade. For a little over 10 years.

[orchid nimbus]

😄

I did mechanical engineering back in the day - wanted to be a designer/architect ..... but at year 3 I didn't even touch a computer

the school had computers - but the teachers had no clue what CAD was

[viscid quiver]

Haha, gotta pencil whip that discrepency

[orchid nimbus]

hydraulic cylinders

[viscid quiver]

I only work in imperial standard anyway. Merica

[orchid nimbus]

1 thou / 1 10th....

make it make sense

[abstract slate]

When I was a kid they told us we were about to switch over to Metric soon

[orchid nimbus]

I moved to the US when I was 26 - I seriously hate the emperic system

[viscid quiver]

1 thou is .001

[orchid nimbus]

I know

[abstract slate]

it's not that it's the worst. It's just that Metric actually makes sense.

[viscid quiver]

1 10th is .0001

[orchid nimbus]

@viscid quiver and that's where I have a problem 😄 1 10th = 0.1 in my book

not 1 10th of a thou

[viscid quiver]

Well my school system was supossed to switch us all but didn't. So if there is someone to blame its probably the school system.

[abstract slate]

Yeah switching seems farther away than it did back then

[orchid nimbus]

meanwhile in the auto industry 😄 (and at NASA)

[viscid quiver]

If I happen to be working in Metric I just use conversion formulas.

[orchid nimbus]

2.54cm =1"

1 yard is a meter (yeah I know it's less than 1 ... but who cares)

1 feet = 30cm

3feet is roughly a meter

[native mesa]

What's new today?!

[viscid quiver]

I seen MARS fpga has changeable controller plugin accessory

[orchid nimbus]

the date on the calendar @native mesa that's all

[abstract slate]

We're learning about the Empiric system

[native mesa]

Mars?!

[orchid nimbus]

we don't speak about vaporware here

[weary palm]

Which one is closer to a meter, a yard or three feet?

[native mesa]

yeah the case concept is cool with their snac adapters

too bad all my OEM controllers are bluetooth modded now

[viscid quiver]

Fair enough. That's what's holding me back from testing out the N64 core. I have no ability to hook up a controller

[orchid nimbus]

0.9144m on both

3feet=1yard

[weary palm]

One deciinnch is 2.54mm

[orchid nimbus]

lol

hahahaha

stop confusing all these poor Americanas

[abstract slate]

Vampier, how do you like the water measurements?

That is one that virtually no American can do the math on

[orchid nimbus]

liters... not cups/oz/tablespoons/teaspoons or hamsterwheels please

[viscid quiver]

I am trying to figure out how to go as fast as the world record holder on Nagano 98 Luge event.

[little socket]

You are missing the country specifier

[zinc dew]

With the latest unstable Linux driver, analog stick ranges for regular controllers match the N64 stick range. If that’s a concern of yours.

[orchid nimbus]

10x10x10cm of water = 1 liter = 1 kg

[viscid quiver]

Using same character. He can get 6 km/h faster on the launch.

Maybe I should just message him and kindly ask

[abstract slate]

Amazing. I just learned that recently.

It's perfect.

[little socket]

But not in space

[viscid quiver]

It's proof that God exists

In numbers.

[native mesa]

Are you using 3 individual foot long rulers? Then there are probably some imperfections on the edges which would make it longer than a yard

[viscid quiver]

There's an explanation for it somewhere

[zinc dew]

I wish Europe would just adopt feet and miles. It’s the morally correct unit of measurement.

[orchid nimbus]

@little socket yes.... not in space... there graviatrional constant is not 9.8m(s*s) there.... but it's till 1 liter

yes but Europe didn't come up with a system that seems to be made up by some [beeping] hamsters on coke

[viscid quiver]

English is phonetically reversed Hebrew

[native mesa]

Is No Mercy beatable?

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-n64-wrestling-wrasslin-gif-19175774

[abstract slate]

I forgot he used to look like this before all the plastic surgery

[zinc dew]

Wow the Rock is so cool. Probably because he measures things in feet and miles.

[abstract slate]

Yeah I think there is a mathematical explanation for this

feet + miles = cool sunglasses

[chrome quest]

Lots of visuals missing across those few wrestling games, but didn't see any crashes (didn't play very long though)

[viscid quiver]

Always keep in mind that they never stopped trying to take America back

Why keeping a little distance sometimes is not too bad.

[abstract slate]

who is they?

[viscid quiver]

The British lol

Has anyone played Nagano yet?

Or have a link to the compatibility list?

[empty cliff]

1kg of water on earth is still 1kg of water in space

the mass is the same, only the weight is different, kg is a measure of mass

[polar raft]

That's Numberwang

[orchid nimbus]

but my Taylor scale tells me it isn't!

it shows 0 while just hanging there in mid air

[empty cliff]

your taylor scale should learn what a newton is

[orchid nimbus]

it's an object

it only shows stuff when I toss it against a wall or if I toss something against it

[fair stump]

The compatibility list is in the pins

[empty cliff]

just scribble out the decimal point, draw a new one one to the left and scribble out the kg and write N

[viscid quiver]

Thank you.

[weary palm]

9.82m/s²

[orchid nimbus]

@viscid quiver https://vampier.net/N64/

here you go

[native mesa]

He measures in stone

[weary palm]

What is FIFI Soccer?

[orchid nimbus]

[pink haired soccer lady making gun gestures towards to camera while getting ready to be defeated by a much stronger team]

[chrome quest]

Justice League Soccer 64 works at least

[daring meteor]

You like feet?

[viscid quiver]

I want a GTA 3 core

I'm a coppppp u idiot

GTA 3 n64 version with megatextures as God intended. No load times

[zinc dew]

I literally just found this. What could it mean??

And no I did not place it there lol

[mortal panther]

You've been Targeted.

[orchid nimbus]

it means you have hairy arms

[worn delta]

Wow... is that for sale or has someone lost it in the store?

[zinc dew]

I think it’s for sale, has the tag still

[orchid nimbus]

random

[worn delta]

That's... bizarre

[orchid nimbus]

it's meant to be

buy it!

[worn delta]

I guess they were added to Smash Bro a few years ago, right?

[mortal panther]

"Here comes Robby. It's go time!"

[worn delta]

They haven't been in anything else or had the games remastered have they?

[zinc dew]

Nope!

Well the games were remastered back in 2010 or so

Must be Robert’s core 👀

[topaz otter]

Bear and Bird are back for an all new adventure!

banjo playing intensifies

[zinc dew]

It was $35 so I put it back

[viscid quiver]

Don't blame ya there. I just returned a Bills shirt I bought and a Sabres blanket. I didn't like either of them. Too much stitched patch crap going on. Not comfortable.

[solemn marlin]

Don't worry, mario 64 hackers will get there eventually, he already has a gun

[quaint pewter]

Plushy dlc for your home is always expensive it seems.

[woven olive]

Yes.

[marble cargo]

https://youtu.be/5f2QmHOA47U?si=s_eOc9Zsj_Dy3lLo

[vague socket]

Hi, stupid question’s I’m sure but, here we go anyway.
Snowboard kids (1st game) image is smaller than all other games tested.
Same game, seems to support memory card and rumble but there’s only one slot, do you have to choose 2 controllers and rumble on main controller and save to memory pack on controller 2? I’m confused lol

[woven olive]

No Mercy beatable since Sept 9. But the intro screens, some menu elements, wrestler entrances, and story text is borked. Gameplay is fine.

[woven olive]

I think there's a plan for a combined rumble/save option in a single controller but it has not been implemented yet.

So the only workaround currently is what you said. Rumble in one slot and mem pack in another.

[weary beacon]

Where is the list of status of games?

[woven olive]

it's in the pins. Compatibility Tracker

[weary beacon]

Thanks, Discord is too new for me lol

[mortal panther]

Thumbtack icon at the top of the app brings up a list of the pinned (important) comments.

[weary beacon]

Got it. Thanks

[solemn marlin]

Tho that document says that only two games have been completed, is it really not more?

[orchid nimbus]

USA tab

[solemn marlin]

Huh looks more like 40+ there

[orchid nimbus]

then I should update 🙂

[topaz otter]

is this a picture of the gaza strip

[orchid nimbus]

Gaza shaves hers - so I can't show a picture of that

[topaz otter]

lol

[daring meteor]

Ashkelon is TLB

[lament escarp]

Any updates on vivid dolls?

[stuck summit]

any idea of how good timings are in the core currently? I know Robert is working on that now but I wonder how they currently compare with software emulators. They all have notorious timing related issues

[worn delta]

Vivid Dolls boots to a test menu

Debug stuff

So something presumably going on there that needs tweaked to load into the game (other Aleck64 games did similar things when I checked awhile back)

[lament escarp]

I really hope I can play it during the dark, lonly winter months...

[daring meteor]

It thinks the test button is pressed

[plush summit]

Is he? I think he still chipping away at the components first

[viscid quiver]

Tremerpak master race

[stuck summit]

Well not that he's working on that right now, but iirc he mentioned he bought an HDMI modded N64 to research timings among other things

[plush summit]

Pretty sure timing fixes are not happening until all components are implemented

[stuck summit]

Yeah, I was just wondering how does the core compare with software emulators right now

[weary perch]

it depends on the game

[solemn marlin]

Isn't that kind of pointless tho, I recall the n64 seeing it as an either/or situation, you can't use both at the same time *replied to wrong person, meant to reply to @viscid quiver about the tremorpak

[stuck summit]

DK64 I think is notoriously bad in software emulators due to timing inaccuracies

[weary perch]

tl;dr - generally the core runs a bit faster than hardware, and a bit slower than most emulators

[whole yarrow]

how to coordinate on this graph?

[orchid nimbus]

roms on the left / days since release on the bottom

progress over time

[marble cargo]

Some games are better with timings than others.

Banjo-Tooie is accurate since the music does sync up with the cutscenes like it should, but Pokémon Stadium 2 lacks the lag so it is faster than it should be.

[weary perch]

Ocarina of time runs faster than hardware, causing desync on some of the collapse cutscenes. meanwhile Battlezone doesn't quite run at full-speed and the audio crackles due to not getting what it needs in time

just depends on the game

[stuck summit]

I see. Cool, thanks! I haven't been testing games extensively so I was wondering on how things were currently.

[weary perch]

for some games it's already pretty close

Wave Race 64 drops frames in pretty much the same places as hardware

[stuck summit]

That's really encouraging. I wonder if better timings in the MiSTer core could help software emulators getting better in that regard too down the line.

[vapid hawk]

if it goes like psx/gba then yeah probably

[latent galleon]

bet

[weary perch]

Beetle Adventure Racing will be a good test case. it has
A) unlocked framerate
B) debug mode with framerate display that works on hardware

in that game, framerate is super important as it affects what happens when you go off of a jump. emulators run the game slightly too fast, which causes you have to notably better odds of getting lower/faster jumps

[languid dune]

Pilotwings 64 also has an unlocked frame rate. That's why the NSO version of the game runs at mostly 60fps, which the game absolutely does not achieve on real hardware.

[normal basin]

im trying to use an n64 controller but the analog up and down doesnt work. When I go through the steps to define buttons there isnt an option to define analog

im using a retrofighters n64 ciontroller that works normally with a real n64

[latent galleon]

did you go through top level mister controller setup?

[normal basin]

yes

I can navigate with the n64 controller in the menu

if thats what you mean?

im using

a blissbox gamer pro adapter if that matters?

I tried fpga but no good

[plush summit]

I think Analog is auto configured for the core

[normal basin]

I find it odd up and down isnt working (y) axis

[plush summit]

Tried the Controller Test (built-in and/or rom)?

[normal basin]

is there a script for that?

if so I will try

[plush summit]

Yeah, its a core in the main menu

[normal basin]

ill try t hat thanks

[plush summit]

Im pretty sure there's plenty of 64 adapters that needs testing on MiSTer now

I use the Reflex Adapt and its bang on perfect

[languid dune]

Lucky! I want a Reflex Adapt so badly now.

[plush summit]

It's the real deal 😎

[weary beacon]

Was anything improved in GBA or PS1 software emulation because of MiSTer cores?

[languid dune]

I just need to wait for the restock. I didn't know about them until recently, and they were already sold out! I love that the latency is extremely low, and you can also still use the controllers to navigate the MiSTer OSD. Almost feels like there is no need for SNAC at this point.

[plush summit]

for transparency, rumble isnt supported for controllers yet, but there's an XInput build for GC/PSX

[stuck summit]

I built the picoswitch adapter for N64 controllers with like $10 in parts. Works really well. Sub 1ms latency

[languid dune]

I mainly want to use it for my SNES and 3D Saturn controllers anyway. So rumble isn't an issue for me personally.

[plush summit]

Awesome, you're gonna have a blast with it (when it comes back in stock)

[latent galleon]

@stuck summit you measured latency?

also what did you spend the other $6 on

haha

[stuck summit]

Yeah. Same response time as my daemonbites

and those are sub 1ms

[plush summit]

apparently Reflex is 3ms, but they got it down to 1ms now

[stuck summit]

I sacrificed an extension cable before you gave me the tip to buy the connectors lol

[latent galleon]

i mean i wrote my own script to read the n64 controller using a pico, and i have no doubt it's good but

[stuck summit]

Oh really? Where can I get that

[latent galleon]

i don't know what the "but" was

nowhere, i did it after you showed me retro pico switch

i just wanted to see how it worked, and try to figure out bluetooth

which i did not

[stuck summit]

Aaah, yeah I was going to ask if you managed to get bluetooth working

[languid dune]

You should probably just put it behind you.

[latent galleon]

i think bluetooth is a linux driver issue

because it pretends to be a switch pro controller, but badly

[stuck summit]

Yeah, I noticed it didn't work properly on PC with BetterJoy. Kept disconnecting all the time. But Steam picked it up just fine as a Pro controller

[latent galleon]

honestly it sucks because with a battery the size of a pico it would be a wireless conversion with no board swap needed

i think this entire scene is sleeping on that, but people love their wires

[stuck summit]

Yeah, true

[latent galleon]

i mean it would barely add to the size of an SNES connector

[stuck summit]

probably lower latency too than the 8bitdo kit

[latent galleon]

you could destroy 8bitdo

[stuck summit]

their SNES/NES conversion kits are awful. Super laggy. Like over 20ms or something

not sure about the N64 one

[latent galleon]

or at least mickgyver could

he had something working but never released it, the numbers were about as good as it gets

[topaz otter]

Researching by playing Mario kart in HD on his bigscreen

[wanton sun]

VI(async), RDP(LOD, YUV, fixes), CPU (writefifo, cache, load stall), RSP(dual pipeline) most likely before, but maybe not, depends on my mood, haha 🙂

and if it somehow fits in between transfer pak (sorry, still my most wanted special feature)

[thorn flax]

still got my original silver save

love that game

[quaint pewter]

No one wants rental pokemon forever I'm sure so you don't have to apologise for that lol

[thorn flax]

seeing mine own childhood frens in beautifully textured pollys 😩

[languid dune]

I think my old Mew is still stuck on my Pokemon Stadium cartridge. 😅

[thorn flax]

Heracross is the GOAT

[daring meteor]

You are doing the CPU and RSP fixes beforehand, haha, kinda wondered about those cause they seemed kinda inconsequential

[lament escarp]

Do you mean snac transfer pack or reading the saves from the gameboy core? Or is it pretty much the same logicwise?

[wanton sun]

it's more missing features than fixes, so it makes sense to do them first. they are more important than TLB as they affect all games

[daring meteor]

I guess those minor speed fixes do affect more games, yeah, and especially the RSP one sounds like it will be funny to debug

[thorn flax]

name your favorite pokemon!

[wanton sun]

the good thing is: if 80% of the games work, we can trust the other parts really good, so every new bug is likely not just due to timing being slightly different, but rather a real bug due to the new feature being added

that's why i wanted stability before adding features that make debugging harder

[languid dune]

Yeah, we can wait for TLB. Considering how many games run now, we have our hands busy anyway!

[wanton sun]

first snac transfer pak, this is the bigger milestone. When that works, it should be pretty straightforward to implement emulated transfer pak using rom + sav. Not easy, but mostly work

[quaint pewter]

I look forward to it 🙂

[daring meteor]

If you manage to bypass the OOT protection with the RSP superscalar impl, that would be legendary

[daring meteor]

The UI is truly the challenge haha

[orchid nimbus]

well a legend is making legends here

[wanton sun]

Ares supports the transfer pak since 2 months now, another very helpful ressouce 🙂

[marble cargo]

The transfer pak sounds pretty straightforward. I think the majority of games just trigger a flag that automatically unlocks content. But I can imagine it being more tricky with stuff like the Pokémon Stadium games, which genuinely transfers data.

[wanton sun]

well, i only really care for first gen pokemon for now. Later on, other gameboy MBC (mapper) can be added

[daring meteor]

True

[wanton sun]

we have all mappers available in the gameboy core, so they can be mostly ported

[daring meteor]

You need to implement the mappers?

Wow

[marble cargo]

Makes sense, the transfer pak needs to read something for it to work.

[quaint pewter]

First Genners unite 🙂

[lament escarp]

I love gen1 so much I made my own version.

[quaint pewter]

I've played some of the others but I'm a genwunner at heart.

[wanton sun]

it's all a dream for now, but well, playing mario kart 64 on mister was also just a dream 6 months ago 🙂

i need to have a goal and that is really something i'm looking forward to

[daring meteor]

You got this Robert

[plush summit]

Im just amazed about how everyone mobilized to get this tested and debugged

[knotty zealot]

you look like you're tested and debugged

[plush summit]

it's what I do for a living big boy 😎

[daring meteor]

Someone test out PAL games

[viral portal]

My pals are all at work

[knotty zealot]

but can you play 4 player battle?

[daring meteor]

But where are your NTSCs

[viral portal]

That's personal

[wanton sun]

why not?

[woeful beacon]

Someone should tell Sergiy

Jk jk

[knotty zealot]

you tried to sniff out my leading and savage trick question but today it was nothing but an ordinary one for i have not followed the progress of your work, master wizard

i just thought maybe the multiplayer part of the game was bugged or something

since i've never seen any screenshots from anybody playing the battle mode

and we all know that's the best part of the game

[wanton sun]

no, working fine. we already played

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-south-park-gif-17950420

flawless goldeneye before dawn

[vapid hawk]

have you got a transfer pak to test?

[wanton sun]

yes, already tested to work with Pokemon Rot on real n64 🙂

[solid crest]

How does the transfer pak work? Dumps the rom and save into the N64’s RAM?

[teal citrus]

This is gonna sound weird, but I'm interested to know if the last N64 games ever made can run on the core.

Usually, the last games made are supposed to be "the games that would push the hardware a bit to its limits."

I've tried to find some videos of THPS 3 running on the core, but nothing.

[prisma ivy]

It's the only gen of Pokemon I played 😂

[river shale]

Does anyone else's MiSTer fail to boot when you switch to the new zImage files in the pins? I am using the latest unstable MiSTer core.

My NSO controllers were working fine with the old zImage, but the player LEDs were not working properly and I was wondering if the latest zImage might fix that...

[tidal zenith]

mine boots with it, and yes it does fix the blinking lights

and some of the deadzone issues

[latent galleon]

hmm

[river shale]

Interesting... And all you did was rename the old zImage in /media/fat/linux and copied over the new one from the link and renamed it to the original zImage name?

maybe I should do a file checkum...

[tidal zenith]

yes, how are you copying?

[river shale]

ftp

to recover I am using an SD reader...

I will post checkum

[vapid hawk]

it runs, but the graphics are a mess

[weary perch]

Aidyn is near-perfect, THPS3 has text issues so you can't read any of the text as well as wild texture glitching, Animal Forest has a few graphical issues but is playable, 40 Winks seems to run OK

Perfect Dark pushes the console more than any of those games, though

forgot about the wild texture glitching in THPS3

[river shale]

md5sum /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
e4f337b7b7ca2e3aa0289556738eae6e  /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb

(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ sha256sum /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
195614a0b289a8a66428b23294b898dc3b258ac918554df99564ff71b4110442  /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ ls -lh /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/
total 913152
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   1.3K Dec 31  1979 MidiLink.INI
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   177B Dec 31  1979 _samba.sh
-rwx------  1 alex  staff    31B Dec 31  1979 _user-startup.sh
-rwx------@ 1 alex  staff   119B Oct 13 21:35 _wpa_supplicant.conf
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   2.0M Oct 19  2023 bluetooth
drwx------@ 1 alex  staff   128K Oct 16 11:17 gamecontrollerdb
-rwx------@ 1 alex  staff    16M Oct 16 11:17 glow
-rwx------@ 1 alex  staff    24B Oct 16 11:17 lesskey
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   375M Dec 31  1979 linux.img
drwx------  1 alex  staff   128K Dec 31  1979 mt32-rom-data
-rwx------@ 1 alex  staff    36M Oct 16 11:17 pdfviewer
-rwx------  1 alex  staff    13K Dec 31  1979 ppp_options
drwx------  1 alex  staff   128K Dec 31  1979 soundfonts
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   3.5K Oct 17 01:21 timezone
-rwx------  1 alex  staff    26B Dec 31  1979 u-boot.txt
-rwx------  1 alex  staff    42B Dec 31  1979 u-boot.txt_example
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   503K Dec 31  1979 uboot.img
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   407B Dec 31  1979 updateboot
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   507B Oct 15 12:54 user-startup.sh
-rwx------  1 alex  staff    56B Dec 31  1979 wpa_supplicant.conf
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   7.0M Oct 19 09:10 zImage_dtb
-rwx------  1 alex  staff   7.0M Dec 31  1979 zImage_dtb.orig

[teal citrus]

I'm guessing the same also happens for THPS 2, and any other extreme sports game.

[teal citrus]

Does that one run well on the core? I don't remember now.

[weary perch]

PD requires TLB

there is a hack which removes it, that runs pretty well

[vapid moat]

Pokemon Rot?

Is the other version Pokemon Famine?

[wanton sun]

Blau

it's red and blue in german

i cannot remember 150 additional names in english (they renamed most) so i have to stick to it

[elfin depot]

All the German I know I learned from Wolfenstein 3D and Rammstein

[river shale]

(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ md5sum ~/Downloads/zImage_dtb_unstable_20230901_151838
5855efbe83c91e9e1ad233393e32be7b  /Users/alex/Downloads/zImage_dtb_unstable_20230901_151838
(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ md5sum /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb_unstable_20230901_151838\ \(1\) 
5855efbe83c91e9e1ad233393e32be7b  /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb_unstable_20230901_151838 (1)
(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ md5sum /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
e4f337b7b7ca2e3aa0289556738eae6e  /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ md5sum /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb.orig 
aec419a4808f4c6fb2c51227577456e8  /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb.orig
(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ mv /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb_unstable_20230901_151838\ \(1\) /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ md5sum /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
5855efbe83c91e9e1ad233393e32be7b  /Volumes/MiSTer_Data/linux/zImage_dtb
(base) MacBook-Air-2:~ alex$ 

hmmmmm 🤔 Looks like we found the smoking gun! Works! 🔥 💯

Thanks for verifying my stupidity...

If someone else runs into this. I tried multiple transfers through filezilla that appeared to have completed successfully. I renamed the file using filezilla after the transfer. Not sure if something got messed up there...

To be safe, maybe direct transfer to SD is a good idea if you are having issues.

[vagrant ivy]

Filezilla must be set to binary mode

dont use it use Win Scp

[hollow orbit]

looks like MacOS so CLI scp or I think Cyberduck

[vagrant ivy]

Filezilla defaults to auto and it makes mistakes

[hollow orbit]

My wife has a MacBook but I never really use it so I don't know what the mac versions of tools are besides whatever resides in the BSD beneath.

[wraith estuary]

Does the N64-database.txt functionality only work with big-endian (z64) ROMs, or does it have big-endian and little-endian hashes for each game?

[safe robin]

The coolest German Pokémon name that also can be understood in English is the German name of Snorlax. It's named Relaxo!

[vagrant ivy]

the roms are converted by Main Mister

[wraith estuary]

ah interesting, thanks!

[hollow orbit]

thank god. endian is my archenemy

or my enemyarch depending on the platform

[vapid hawk]

sounds like the next build of portal will have a 480i mode

[vagrant ivy]

portal is for the PC not N64 !

[vapid hawk]

thats what they want you to think

[stone pilot]

Have they done much yet on the end of the game? That seems like it'll be really difficult, since things get a lot more detailed with more setpieces

[vagrant ivy]

without a mouse portal would be terrible

[vapid hawk]

its playable on a pad, first time i ever finished it was on 360

i'm not sure how many maps they've done so far - not all of them for sure

[weary palm]

It's even easier. The rom is converted to big endian before hashing. Only one hash needed.

[weary beacon]

So uh... Any word on TLB?

[vagrant ivy]

yes Patreon locked feature yours for 50 euro

also selling a dictionary with the word Gullible removed

[wraith estuary]

thanks! I thought I saw somewhere that it checks the first 4096 bytes, but it also checks the whole file? is that correct? I know that it's evolved over the past few weeks.

[toxic pumice]

My wife is German and i've always found Pokemon names in German highly amusing for some reason

'Relaxo', seriously

[vapid hawk]

i think most recently its moved on to reading the rom id out of its header so we don't even need seperate entries for a lot of romhacks etc

the hash stuff still works as fallback though or something

[chrome quest]

Hey, I'm working on it 😆
Though most of my PAL testing was only those non-booting games from the NTSC list as of some weeks back.

I'll try to at least quickly check the other PAL games boot, get gameplay, confirm nothing too egregious is different.
I will usually put "Only briefly confirmed gameplay" in the notes if I've only checked a bare minimum works. Problem is of course I could miss cases like the consistent but random "Polaris SnoCross" crash

[vapid hawk]

i know one pal game runs - f1 world grand prix

its got a minor graphical glitch in the hud graphics but its otherwise fine

[chrome quest]

Add it to the sheet. Or I'll add it later tonight. Hopefully will get to test a little

Still funny to me that at least so far, one game is PAL playable but NTSC version won't boot. There could well be other cases like that hiding in there

[vapid hawk]

yeah, like biohazard2 (jpn) has unique bugs resident evil2 (us) doesn't have

surprised me

[river shale]

#1096015979055697940 message

Edit - I couldn't figure out how to proper quote messages - that's the best I can do...

[zinc dawn]

I think we may be lucky and get TLB for Xmas:) or If some genius could hack Goldeneye to not use it like they did with PD 😉

[vapid hawk]

need a decomp before you can even start

[solemn marlin]

With how rabid the ge fanbase is it's a miracle pd got it first

[vapid hawk]

yeah mildly surprising

having pd done has to help a lot i'd assume

maybe it wont be much longer

[drowsy lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[zinc dawn]

I think Kholdfusion was decompiling GE last time I heard

[zinc dawn]

I'm chomping at the bit.

[latent galleon]

GIVE ME CANDY

[zinc dawn]

What is everybody's most favourite,64 title like their No.1 game

[latent galleon]

MM

[solemn marlin]

Same, barely holding back the robert pings, goldeneye is my fav tbh

[vapid hawk]

probably oot

[orchid nimbus]

I bet the person doesn't even has joined his patreon

[native mesa]

Majora's Mask, Goldeneye, Smash

[orchid nimbus]

I DEMAND TLB!!!

[quick arch]

😭

[native mesa]

Mystical Ninja

[toxic pumice]

favourite playable right now, f-zero x by far. Favourite waiting for playable, Turok Rage Wars (yes) and Gauntlet Legends

[orchid nimbus]

dude... you love MSX - we don't need TLB

[solemn marlin]

Or bomberman, anything I can just jump into and do some shit, oot and mm is more like once every other year even if they're probably the best

[latent galleon]

mystical ninja is underrated period

[orchid nimbus]

best game on the n64

there I said it!

[vapid hawk]

i think goldeneye is a lot of peoples favorite

based on the amount of tlb questions

[latent galleon]

i think goldeneye is overrated period

[quick arch]

The N64 misses a MSX collection for sure

[latent galleon]

but i wouldn't say that aloud

[orchid nimbus]

TLB is planned 90 days from now

and if anyone asks... tomorrow it's still 90 days

and the day after too

[zinc dawn]

Mobs and pitchforks spring to mind

[stone pilot]

"one stretchy Mario face by Christmas"

[latent galleon]

just be happy with what we have and that it is getting better every day

[drowsy lantern]

I mean it's easy to look back on Goldeneye today and see it as archaic, but on the day it came out, it felt years ahead of any FPS at the time. It revolutionized everything.

[latent galleon]

did it?

[zinc dawn]

It still has not been beaten

[vapid hawk]

it should of but then nobody really copied it forever

[solemn marlin]

I can make a reasoned argument for why pd is superior in many ways but I just love the setting and arcade-y feel of ge, nothing quite compares

[solemn kayak]

*for console

[latent galleon]

*for console

[neat sierra]

yeah goldeneye was fun times couch play with roommates in its day. I wouldn't spend any time on it in 2023

[native mesa]

I guess, if you didn't have a PC

[vapid hawk]

the way the single player missions escalate as you raise the difficulty has like, gone largely uncopied forever

[native mesa]

or until Half Life came out

[latent galleon]

yeah i had a PC at the time and goldeneye was fun but i also felt a little superior, because i was

[neat sierra]

yeah I spent more time playing UT for sure or other FPS

[drowsy lantern]

Exactly. It came out a whole year after.

[vapid hawk]

the best pc shooter at the time was probably quake2

[zinc dawn]

Hmmm I dunno

[neat sierra]

but there's something to be said for sitting next to someone on a couch and virtually murdering them

[solemn marlin]

I had pc and clearly shooting stuff in quake and half-life is quicker or whatever, I just like the mechanics of ge, getting boosted by bullets, the tiny corridors where you line up headshots

[zinc dawn]

Games I've always played constantly since release...GE, Deus Ex and Doom

[vapid hawk]

yeah it was way more like, sophisticated than a lot of pc shooters

pc shooters caught up but later

[latent galleon]

i still remember halo with four crts set up back to back

[zinc dawn]

Oh and visit Half Life on the regular

[latent galleon]

single player is where goldeneye shines, but it was people playing together that made it huuuge

[vapid hawk]

yeah, i'd say the single player is what is worth playing today

[solemn marlin]

Yea people "go back" to multiplayer and see that it's a laggy mess, they just miss being in highschool

[vapid hawk]

its a shame it runs so badly yeah

also the multiplayer ideas have all been taken and iterated on a billion times now

[zinc dawn]

GE Multiplayer runs painfully

[vapid hawk]

if you want nostalgic GE multiplayer play, without the low fps, get that leaked 360 version it rules

[zinc dawn]

I played alot of PD multilplayer with bots, thank god they ported it to xbox

[weary perch]

the best thing about GE is the asynchronous multiplayer. competing with your friends to see who could beat the par times and unlock the cheats, trying to best each other's times... important in the history of speedrunning

[vapid hawk]

and the PD 360 port is also great

[zinc dawn]

Yeah it's nice

[vapid hawk]

yeah me and my friends used to do this

[old vortex]

This isn’t my actual favourite, but it’s the game I’m most excited to replay

[solemn marlin]

Multiplayer will always be up to date and fun somewhere else, there's no need to be disappointed with it since you'll be served by another game, the singleplayer stuff in ge and pd is still fun and unique, the same itch only being lightly scratched by timesplitters imo

[vapid hawk]

i spent weeks figuring out how to pull off the facility speedrun

[weary perch]

those par times and the cheat unlocks, as well as having each difficulty be pretty different in many cases - incredible replay value

that's really the key to GE, imo

[zinc dawn]

Yeah definitely

you can really master it

I'll probably be still playing it in retirement

[weary perch]

they were clearly riffing on the par times from Doom, but having cheat unlocks tied to that and saving your best times - strokes of genius

[vapid hawk]

and having the cheats work in MP

[native mesa]

If the par times are what brought about speedrunning then I regret Goldeneye

[vapid hawk]

nah speedrunning happened anyway goldeneye just got more people into it

[native mesa]

The only good thing to come out of speedrunning are the interesting glitches people find

[weary perch]

there were Doom demos and Quake demos prior to GE but having a console game with that level of encouragement for it was huge

[vapid hawk]

its a good casual onramp for speedrunners. so are a lot of achievements/trophies these days

[weary perch]

SMK having ghosts is another pretty important game in speedrunning history

a tiny feature that had huge repurcussions

[native mesa]

When did doom get multiplayer? Was that with Doom 95?

[toxic pumice]

Doom had IPX multiplayer long before 95, didn't it?

[vapid hawk]

i think resident evil having the rocket launcher unlock for sub 3 hour completion inspired a lot of speedrunners too. i know i did

[solemn marlin]

Still difficult today as well which makes it fun. Another aspect I like is the exaggerated animations, obviously for the purpose of giving people playing on a 64 controller time to react, it just gives you a great sense of what's happening and will happen

[weary perch]

Super Metroid and those RE unlocks, also big, yeah

Metroid even has the bikini if you beat it fast enough, yeah?

[vapid hawk]

i remember it took me ages to figure out how to do RE that fast

i didn't even know what a gant chart or a dependency was back then 😄

[native mesa]

online multiplayer was 1994

launch doom had LAN mp

[solemn marlin]

The best part about ge is walking right up to guards and using them like meat shields, another thing which rewards a different playing style

[native mesa]

actually got that wrong

The Ultimate Doom was the first to have LAN mp

previous doom was all local mp

[vapid hawk]

local mp in doom ?

[native mesa]

alegedly

[vapid hawk]

like splitscreen?

or was it null-modem cable type stuff

[native mesa]

split screen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e87pppIWoJM

up to 4 players

[toxic pumice]

lol Dos doom didn't have split screen

[vapid hawk]

yeah what lol

[latent galleon]

Midi Maze (Xanth Software F/X, 1987) for the Atari ST exploited the system's relatively sophisticated MIDI ports to enable multiplayer action.

ok i need another mister, stat

[native mesa]

Yeah idk where google is getting this. source ports had split screen

[toxic pumice]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Versions_of_Doom_and_Doom_II

[vapid hawk]

oh yeah no doubt

maybe splitscreen on the xbox port of it too

[toxic pumice]

Serial multiplayer released in 1993, Null modem and modem support in 1994

[vapid hawk]

serial cables can't be super long so i guess you could call that "local"

esp back then when the terms were not well defined

[native mesa]

thank you

[narrow ruin]

LAN is local

....area network

[native mesa]

Is a gameboy link cable local?

[latent galleon]

of course

[toxic pumice]

you're arguing semantics at this point though. I'm pretty sure IPX networking was pretty much just what you were dealing with back in 1993. 🙂

[hollow badger]

Nope. Neural net

[vapid hawk]

personally i'd say local is on the same machine, then i'd call gameboy link play, then network for lan, online for internet

[latent galleon]

meanwhile atari st had midi multiplayer in 1987 and we are just acting like that is normal

[raw oriole]

There was definitely null-modem for Doom, that's how I played it at university before we got network cards.

[toxic pumice]

midi maze was a vibe for sure

[native mesa]

midi was pretty magical

[latent galleon]

@vapid hawk bruh the L stands for local

[native mesa]

still is

[toxic pumice]

(the ZX Spectrum also did multiplayer via Interface 1 which astounds me)

[fair stump]

If I play a game that needs the controller pak, create a save, switch to another controller pak game and save that as well is my second game save stuck on a pak that's not automatically loaded when playing the second game?

[raw oriole]

QL had the same networking loop builtin too. 3.5mm audio cables 🙂

[toxic pumice]

Well that's pretty sick. 🙂 I have absolutely zero experience using a QL.

[weary perch]

not sure i understand the question, but the way it currently works is

if you load a new game which has no .sav file created yet, and you have stuff saved to the CPAK, you'll still see those saves in the new game

you can hold Start on booting nearly any game with CPAK support to see what's saved

[vapid hawk]

isn't it a unique cpak per game?

[weary perch]

yes

but if you don't have a .sav yet, the CPAK isn't formatted when you create one

for safety reasons

[fair stump]

It's tripped me up since it was introduced but my understanding is a controller pak per game wasn't generated automatically when hopping between games

[weary perch]

you can manually format CPAK and reset, or you can hold Start and clear the prior save, or you can just let it ride if you don't need the space

if you have a .sav for the game, none of this applies

[fair stump]

So you can end up with multiple games on one if you don't use the format option

[weary perch]

it'll load in the new .sav

quicker to just hold start when booting a new game you haven't made a .sav for yet

then you can delete the old save and proceed as normal

once a .sav is created for that game, you don't need to worry about it ever again

[fair stump]

I think I understand but that seems extremely confusing to an end user

[weary perch]

basically Robert said he didn't want to automate formatting the CPAK. could lose a user's data if they switched games with autosave off and didn't manually save their CPAK (since on new load it'd format in that case)

it's not, really

the only quirk is your CPAK is not autoformatted - which is honestly a very wise decision

you need to consider what's on your CPAK one time - the first time you make a .sav

after that it's not a consideration

[fair stump]

If I'm a new user and just browsing through the n64 library between multiple cpak games won't you very quickly run into issues?

Without knowing to hit the format option

[weary perch]

most games warn you when starting if your CPAK is full

[languid dune]

Thinking about all the rom hacks I've tried on the core so far, and I think my favorite has to be the split-screen co-op hack for Super Mario 64. Insanely cool. I really wish Nintendo would do that with all their 3D Mario games.

[weary perch]

formatting automatically has more risk

[native mesa]

I thought that was a cut feature

[weary perch]

i read Robert's reasoning for it and it makes sense to me

[languid dune]

I think I heard that too.

[native mesa]

Is player 2 luigi?

[fair stump]

Not all cpak games fill it though, right? So you could have multiple games written to a single one if you're bouncing around, right?

[weary perch]

the tl;dr is this - hold start when you boot a new game. you'll never encounter an issue that way

[languid dune]

Yeah

[weary perch]

you'll boot to the CPAK manager

[fair stump]

I understand but I'm coming at this from the perspective of a completely new user and personally I never even knew that cpak manager was a thing even though I grew up with the system

[weary perch]

OK

here's the new user experience in most cases

[fair stump]

I'm really not pushing for any changes

[compact depot]

I can smell the TLB bomb being dropped tomorrow! 😄

[fair stump]

Just trying to understand and explain it from a different user perspective

[weary perch]

load CPAK game 1. they have a fresh CPAK. works fine. they load another CPAK game. old save is still present. if the save is too big, most games say "not enough room on CPAK". so now they've been made aware there is already data on the CPAK and they can take appropriate action. format option in the menu, some games automatically take you to a manager

the alternative is autoformatting to a fresh one on booting a game with no extant .sav. issue there is if autosave is off and the user haven't manually saved, they've just lost data

the existing method does not risk data, so i agree with robert that it's the safer approach

[fair stump]

Yeah that makes sense to preserve the data. In my example with games that don't fill the pak you could end up with multiple on one and you'd just have to hunt down what you first played?

[weary perch]

if you have autosave on, you don't have to hunt

it will be saved to the .sav you created for the correct game

the only thing is there might be duplicates on some cpaks

[fair stump]

So .sav 1 would have game 1, .sav 2 would have game 1 and 2 potentially?

[weary perch]

yep

[toxic pumice]

I was wondering about all this, good to know.

[fair stump]

Ah then that makes more sense

[weary perch]

you can't switch games without opening the OSD, which will save if autosave is on

so the existing CPAK for game 1 will always be gucci

[fair stump]

I was afraid the second game would be back on the first pak but it could just be potentially accumulating forward with each game

[weary perch]

there is a small risk still, which you kind of alluded to

not all games warn you about CPAK space

in that case, if you go in, make progress and your CPAK is already full

RIP you

most games warn you, tho

if you want to avoid that, make sure you hold start on boot 🙂

[fair stump]

Cool, thank you very much for the explanation

[weary perch]

i'm super impressed with how well it works

CPAKs are very annoying on real hardware

prone to corruption, those controller pins are not great

if you use rumble you swap stuff in and out constantly, eventually those poor little paks are gonna give you "error, controller pak corrupted. repair? y/n" and half the time the repair doesn't work 🙃

[latent galleon]

yeah the rumble thing is oof

i hope there is a way to automate that at some point

i am pretty sure you could have both at once, maybe

[compact skiff]

It is annoying to have to switch between cpak and rumble all the time is certain games.

but I know that's a limitation of the original hardware.

[latent galleon]

i read only a handful of games actually check for the rumble pak, so they just trigger regardless

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71upOX23W1L._SL1271_.jpg

says it works with all rumble games

[compact skiff]

I believe there's a switch on that you have to flip when going from cpak<->rumble.

[weary perch]

there is

[quaint pewter]

does both - but not at the same time

[latent galleon]

yeah

i just zoomed

[weary perch]

what will most likely happen is eventually someone will add a button to toggle to the input mappings

robert was weary to work on that after the headache with ps1 analog modes

[latent galleon]

it's not high priority

[compact skiff]

I'd be happy with a toggle button. Great use for ZR on the Saffun and NSO controller.

[latent galleon]

yeah 8bitdo thing has one too

[hollow rune]

Hey @fair stump and @weary perch , I am streaming tonight and was wondering if there was anything I should test?

[weary perch]

i think there's still some untested PAL stuff?

among the retail releases

in some of the more obscure sheets there is a bunch of stuff, but not sure how much anyone cares about the kiosk demos etc at this point 😄

[hollow rune]

Thank you. I will take a look.

[weary perch]

i think Kasher took care of the untested JP so the only retail stuff left outside of older revisions is PAL

[plucky nymph]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9O36_ZzVkY&feature=youtu.be

In case you still need a hdmi 2.1 usb solution

[fair stump]

Anything japan, I guess, I finally got stuff together for me to join you all on that

[weary perch]

there some JP stuff that hasn't been tested in awhile, too yeah

[lament escarp]

I use that for menu. 😄

[weary perch]

anything last tested in early september or august should probably get a look, i'll probably check some of those out when i get off work

[night saddle]

i dont think hdmi 2.1 was a concern at all. not doing anything above 1080p60 afaik

[compact skiff]

Saffun has a menu button on the face of the controller, so I use that for menu, and I'm hoping to use ZR for the toggle.

[lament escarp]

Ok that makes sense. I guess with the nso driver not playing nice with the modkit there is less need for it to flip between rumble and cpak anyway.

[latent galleon]

what does the modkit have to do with the NSO?

also i am using switch mode and don't have to re-pair after a disconnect? i saw you mentioned that @lament escarp

[lament escarp]

It's using the same driver in switch mode, which makes rumble work but you also have to pair it each time your disconnected.

#unstable-nightlies message also has it, if you're still on the "stock" driver

[latent galleon]

ok so it uses the switch pro driver?

i wonder if it fixes the open source bluetooth project any

[lament escarp]

No the n64 nso controller driver

[latent galleon]

oh, i thought it showed up as a switch pro when i connected

that makes more sense

i am using the "stock" driver, but i don't need to re-pair so

[lament escarp]

#unstable-nightlies message is the first implementation of the driver.

[latent galleon]

well that is confusing since i use switch mode and have never installed that

[lament escarp]

You don't lose much by updating, as I just use dinput mode most times and when I really want rumble I use switch mode and pair it for the gaming session.

[lament escarp]

But you also don't get rumble without the driver

[latent galleon]

i'd rather not have to pair to be honest

hopefully it gets sorted

[lament escarp]

Yeah I've been testing bt adapters and been bugging shig for months. 😄

[latent galleon]

what's shig been doing?

[lament escarp]

I sent him some error reports and he sent me some driver builds to get the reconnection going, but to no avail. He could explain the technical side way better than me. I'm just the assistant. 😄

But at least the bt connector issue is pretty solved by now, I got the same bt adapter robert uses with his nso controller and has no issues. Doesn't work with the modkit.

[latent galleon]

crazy

ironically i've never had a bluetooth controller that paired better or faster than the modkit...i so hate bluetooth

there is an open source wireless n64 project that doesn't work on mister, i'm not sure where to start looking, maybe shig could give me a hint

it pairs but no input

[lament escarp]

Second best option would be if 8bitdo adds xinput to the modkit via fw update, or the very least makes their own usb adapter compatible with switch mode. I also contacted them about it.

[lament escarp]

The 8bitdo also connects to the bt but the driver doesn't get the right answer.

[latent galleon]

well it's a physical switch so that might not happen

[zenith orchid]

Hmm, I wonder what's the barrier to the "perfect" category now. For most games, VI seems to work as intended. Are we waiting for cycle accuracy test and fixes now?

[lament escarp]

If you're in any way knowledgeable about driver stuff and want to give it a crack I'd be happy to help in any way I can. 😄

[plush summit]

Im gonna say, anything that's not cycle related

[lament escarp]

I think perfect will be the hardest to test for

[zenith orchid]

Even PSX isn't perfect, since a low level implementation of the CD system isn't practical

Maybe perfect should be better defined in the context of what can be expected

[plush summit]

We can nitpick all day, but I think if the core/game reaches a point where telling it apart from real hardware is splitting hairs, I think its good

[zenith orchid]

Yeah I agree

[latent galleon]

luckily the PSX had such janky drives nobody will ever notice

[lament escarp]

Yeah, my ps1 drive is actually a sd card

[latent galleon]

@zenith orchid #1096015979055697940 message

[zenith orchid]

Yeah true, so there were clear exceptions made. Also board revisions could affect cycle performance

[latent galleon]

there's a whole lot of stuff not done

[drowsy lantern]

Even for games that are close, you can still see a few blemishes here and there. There's weird colored pixels on polygon edges. Some polygon seams are still visible in most games. Mario 64 for example doesn't have the noise transparency. Etc.

[latent galleon]

i wonder if the list gets less and less fun

[zenith orchid]

yeah, I see that the core isn't feature complete. Perhaps it doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't games which may be as perfect as they will ever be without those features at this time right?

[latent galleon]

honestly i'm not sure if anyone knows?

seems easiest to just add everything and watch random bugs disappear

[lament escarp]

I still think defining "perfect" better is a good idea.

[weary beacon]

Didnt mean to sound entitled lol i havent been keeping up with the core for the past couple weeks and was too lazy to check the compatibility spreadsheet

[latent galleon]

the point in implementing all the missing features is to make sure any remaining bugs are actual bugs

[mellow path]

maybe distinguishing between "no outstanding bugs" and "perfect"

or some better term

[hollow rune]

https://www.twitch.tv/rgw_panda
Testing N64 roms and maybe trying to do some completes.

[latent galleon]

i'm happy with bug-free and 100% compatible with any of these later systems

[lament escarp]

Perfect would pretty much be when there is a consensus that the game requires no more work on part of the core, right?

[weary perch]

i wouldn't mark anything as perfect until all features are implemented (including TLB), at least one timing pass is done, and the game is effectively indistinguishable from hardware

[latent galleon]

i think most people are used to software emulation, where compatibility lists look more like dophin or yuzu or something...but with hardware you just implement everything, and any problems left over are problems of implementation, not resources

[zenith orchid]

Yeah there has been issues where blemishes can be found in pretty much every game, but Robert took care of quite a few of these issues recently. Which is the main reason why I'm asking now. The FPU fix was pretty big.

[drowsy lantern]

Even so most games are running noticeably too fast. I don't think any of them can be labeled "Perfect" yet.

[solemn marlin]

I had a dream that the n64 database.txt file allowed you to redirect to a config input under each game to allow for different controls for specific titles 🤔

[weary perch]

TLB's implementation may also impact existing performance

so it wouldn't make much sense to be marking things before that's done

[zenith orchid]

Only games which use it.

[daring meteor]

Stuff is perfect without TLB

There can be regressions tho

[quaint pewter]

Is Bangai=O crash tlb or something else?

[zenith orchid]

Yeah its more likely that TLB will slow down certain games

[latent galleon]

yeah TLB doesn't affect anything if developers didn't use it

[weary perch]

just stating my approach. the compatibility list is Moondandy's, so i'll go along with what they say

[latent galleon]

i don't think you are wrong, but i also think bob'll figure it out

[weary perch]

i personally wouldn't be marking anything perfect before feature completion

[zenith orchid]

In that case the barrier to the perfect category would be cycle accuracy fixes. And even then, perfection would be "as close as it is feasible."

Which could very well be within the margin of difference between different board revisions

I do hope there'll be turbo options after the cycle accuracy fixes are in though 😄

Maybe it'll make 4p PD an enjoyable experience

[wraith estuary]

I just realized that I haven't updated my n64 romset since 2009, and it's byte swapped, but with .n64 file extensions 🤢 🤮
no wonder I was having so much confusion!
time to uh re-dump all my carts as z64

[latent galleon]

time is all we have on this earth, maybe consider downloading

[wraith estuary]

yarr

[solemn marlin]

I do hope some care will eventually be given to hacks, partly because I'd like some performance patches, but also to help the hacking communities, there's a lot of fun stuff and I think it'd be nice if their stuff could be played on another platform

[zenith orchid]

N64 hacking has so much potential

[latent galleon]

what kind of care?

[solemn marlin]

There's completely new games almost

[zenith orchid]

There are so many games which don't use expanded ram, and maybe even DD capabilities can be utilized

[latent galleon]

mister has always supported non-dumb hacks, to summon my inner admin

[solemn marlin]

Many of the performance patches do not work as intended, I guess those are the ones I haven't got working tbh, I wanted to play that only up one and that had a fps hack baked in so it didn't work

[zenith orchid]

When thinking about SA1 hacks for SNES, it really makes me think about the potential for N64 hacks

[latent galleon]

@solemn marlin i think that is a reflection of core maturity

there's no reason to think it won't behave exactly like a real console

[zenith orchid]

yeah, that's essentially the aim of every console core

[solemn marlin]

I think newer ones are specifically made to work with original hardware tho, that one is, I guess that is why it's considered impressive to some degree

[orchid nimbus]

correct - only I can be entitled! 😉

[zenith orchid]

#entitlement please

[latent galleon]

seriously, the only thing mister doesn't support is stuff like "stick an arm processor in a 2600 cart"

or fantasy emulator hardware

[zenith orchid]

that would be cool if PICO-8 could run on HPS

[toxic pumice]

F-Zero X Expansion Kit [English] v2 LuigiBlood, Zoinkity.z64 - Completeable.

[solemn marlin]

These new rom hacks are edge cases because they improve on code in ways that couldn't have been done then because of time restrictions/understanding (afaik) but they run normally on the hardware on an everdrive so there's no new tech

[zenith orchid]

Congrats! Do we have a sheet for romhacks?

[toxic pumice]

Yup there's one on there

[zenith orchid]

you gonna do DD next?

[dusty tusk]

Good to know. Expansion Kit and DK64 are what I'm currently checking out.

[zenith orchid]

Wait, was that the hack that added DD content, or the patched DD rom?

I should have asked that first 😂

[dusty tusk]

It's the cartridge conversion

[toxic pumice]

That's the cartridge hack for the expansion pack, yeah

[dusty tusk]

Pretty much everything works but saving machines and tracks. Not sure if it works on real hardware or emulators

[toxic pumice]

Episode 1 Racer isn't on the spreadsheet as completable yet so that's my next target, then I might stay on brand and do Wipeout 64 next.

[toxic pumice]

Emulator needs to have ROM saving support, PJ64 has the same problems as mister at the moment for example, but research suggests there are a couple of emulators that will support it. It's intended for everdrives though.

[dusty tusk]

Has anyone tried saving tracks or machines on real hardware? If that works, something in the core might be incorrect or implemented

[mellow path]

The track editor still doesn't save though right.

[toxic pumice]

Yeah it will work if you're using an Everdrive on real hardware.

[toxic pumice]

Afraid not, no custom machines or tracks will save due to lack of ROM saving support.

[mellow path]

I just saw you answered that above me 😬

[latent galleon]

@solemn marlin ok i knew i saw this answered before, and it was you asking #1096015979055697940 message

[topaz otter]

these things are trash

[wind helm]

Does SimCity 64 DD (ROM) work ?

[topaz otter]

the one I had didn't do any rumble at all when you switched from high to low

[latent galleon]

@topaz otter it was more a question of whether you could have both at once or autodetect

[dusty tusk]

Luckily while neat, for me the real star of the show is new tracks and music

[topaz otter]

you have to flip a switch from rumble to memory pak

there were some that auto switched to both

[latent galleon]

that's what i thought!

maybe it didn't work well

[topaz otter]

i think there was at least one mfgr that made one that had a memory pak built in

[zenith orchid]

I would so much love a complete translation of that game. it really is the definitive simcity 2k experience

but I'm not sure if anyone has tried it

[topaz otter]

it was much easier to just have two controllers plugged in, use the one with the rumble pak and put the memory card in controller port 2

[wind helm]

FOr me the ROM doesn't load

[zenith orchid]

and you are using the cartridge patch?

[wind helm]

what is the cartridge patch?

well I use the rom that is in GoodN64

[topaz otter]

its where the cartridges grow and are harvested

[toxic pumice]

If you're having rom loading issues in mister you probably need to update your n64-database.txt

[latent galleon]

isn't that only some games?

[daring meteor]

Do it in the 1p2c mode

[zenith orchid]

by the cartridge patch kids?

[wind helm]

I thought that the update_all script would autoupdate the n64-database text file if you have the line for the N64 core added to the script

[toxic pumice]

lol - I'll need two analog sticks for that, right?

[solemn marlin]

Yea I understand there's an expectation that it should just work if the core is like original hardware, but it might need some attention, I understand it's low priority but I don't think it should have the lowest priority (not saying it has)

[daring meteor]

Yes

[solemn marlin]

Lowest priority should be mouse support

[latent galleon]

@solemn marlin if something works on original hardware and not on mister that is a bug

sometimes stuff just works differently although nothing is coming to mind

[toxic pumice]

sure i'll break out the DS4 for that. 😛

[latent galleon]

but hacks pretty much just work

@solemn marlin i think anything expected to work 100% once the core is feature complete should have lowest priority, yes 🙂

[solemn marlin]

The framerate stuff must be doing something very differently from normal n64 games, so I guess it's harder to just have it working

[latent galleon]

ok

[solemn marlin]

Those are the only hacks that behave weirdly for me

[solid crest]

Have you tried Neon64 (NES)?

[manic basin]

Not yet.

[zenith orchid]

It does, so maybe that's not the issue. Or maybe DD games haven't been added to it yet.

[river shale]

I was just looking into this. The official Linux kernel 5.16 has support for the switch battery information - expressed as Full, high, normal, low, and critical.... (Not as a percentage as far as I can see). I think when we updated the linux zImage, we get the kernel with this support....

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/diff/drivers/hid/hid-nintendo.c?h=for-next&id=900acbbe2552b17c80718d7247fb59b3c104a4ba

I did some more digging - when you connect a switch controller, it is mounted in /dev as hidraw*

You can query the device with bluetoothctrl

/root# bluetoothctl devices
Device 48:31:77:11:80:8E N64 Controller
Device 48:31:77:82:C3:11 N64 Controller
/root# bluetoothctl info 
Device 48:31:77:11:80:8E (public)
    Name: N64 Controller
    Alias: N64 Controller
    Class: 0x00000508
    Icon: input-gaming
    Paired: yes
    Trusted: yes
    Blocked: no
    Connected: yes
    WakeAllowed: yes
    LegacyPairing: no
    UUID: Service Discovery Serve.. (00001000-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: Human Interface Device... (00001124-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    UUID: PnP Information           (00001200-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb)
    Modalias: usb:v057Ep2019d0001

And finally, you can get the battery life by checking this directory (relative to each controller mac address)

/sys/class/power_supply/nintendo_switch_controller_battery_0005:057E:2019.0001/capacity_level
Normal

You can also get the status of the device (discharging, charging, etc.)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/nintendo_switch_controller_battery_0005:057E:2019.0001/status

Here are all the available files with info:

/sys/class/power_supply/nintendo_switch_controller_battery_0005:057E:2019.0001/
capacity_level    device    hwmon0    power  powers  present    scope  status  subsystem  type    uevent

Now, someone just needs to write a nice script to display this info on the mister overlay 🙂

[wind helm]

maybe we should ask vampire ?

[drowsy lantern]

I’m not saying games should be cycle accurate to be considered Perfect, but the speed difference shouldn’t be so obvious that you can notice it just by casually playing them.

[zenith orchid]

Yeah but most likely those adjustments won't be made until that phase in core development

[latent galleon]

but those timing issues are not just an issue for framerate hacks, they are an issue for the core. which isn't done yet. i don't know how many different ways there are to say that.

[drowsy lantern]

Also the speed difference causes many games to have more obvious imperfections, like the ending in Zelda not being in sync with the music because it plays out too fast.

[manic basin]

Crashes out of the gate.

Lemme run a tool on them after the generation.

[zenith orchid]

check your DMs

[manic basin]

Nah, the CRC on the n64 file is fine, so it's something in the emu code.

[solemn marlin]

I hear you, they should work eventually 👍

[latent galleon]

@solemn marlin they better, because i am pretty excited about some of them

[solemn marlin]

I want that only up one, just really love how smoothly it runs besides the flickering, also @native mesa needs it for his halloween party

[latent galleon]

we have to be ready to return to yoshi's island

[solemn marlin]

There are so many, I'm interested in the goldeneye hacks as well.. my laptop can't run 64 games and I sold my collection, there's only one hope left for me 🥹

[cerulean elk]

N64 in 2 min...including @manic basin and his DOS Scumm capture lol

still felt so wrong to see that

[solemn marlin]

Is it better to emulate scumm on n64 or the linux script version tho? 🤔

[dusty tusk]

Speaking of scumm. Has anyone tried getting scummvm to work yet?

[latent galleon]

we don't talk about linux

[cerulean elk]

its in the video

Andy D got it working

[hollow rune]

I need to figure out a way for my streams not to die like an hour in

I don't understand why it starts so strong and just gives up randomly

[manic basin]

Until KB & mouse work in N64, pretty definitively SCUMM another way. But it's nice and easy for CRT output.

[dusty tusk]

Well shit, guess I need to watch the video now

[manic basin]

The big limiting factor is cart size. You can't go over 64Mb. So CD games are out, but everything else seems fine! And you can pack more than one game per rom, so you can throw all of the floppy games into one rom basically.

[cerulean elk]

just insanity it even works in the first place

[dusty tusk]

World of Xeen has mouse to move options. We can finally have a good rpg to play

[native mesa]

True time is running out!

[solemn marlin]

The linux script versions runs fine on mister but I get shit for it because it runs on the arm chip, a lot of arm chip prejudice

[latent galleon]

for good reason

don’t reopen old wounds or start the Great Linux Wars of 2019 all over again

we banished those people for a reason

[manic basin]

But, again, I didn't do it because it was a good idea. I did it because it was very, very stupid.

I love emu on emu action.

(I got Night Trap working on Mac on Amiga on MiSTer a week or so ago....it's not a good way to play at all...but I got it working)

[solemn marlin]

I didn't know it was such a contentious area, just wanted some fucking awful sierra puzzles

[latent galleon]

hey i think its great andy

[manic basin]

"You looked a the frog. He didn't like it. You have perished." Sierra was always such a jerk like that. As Roberta Williams said, moon logic. I loved when Lucas Arts would take jabs at it like in Monkey Island.

[native mesa]

Yeah monkey island was stellar writing

[solemn marlin]

Yea getting weird things to work on an even weirder thing is cool, I've played all the lucasarts ones tho, time to bite bullet

[manic basin]

Winneck and Gilbert are a hell of a writing team.

[native mesa]

I wonder how many jeans were creamed the first time people hooked up their MT-32s

https://youtu.be/i3dB0qEcG20?si=v-1z1T82KBu6VE41

[latent galleon]

the analog stick mouse is really the biggest issue with n64 scummvm

[manic basin]

OH Michael Z. Land is a damned genius.

And every single version and rework is good. It's amazing that it's even almost passible on PC speaker!

[manic basin]

Best way to play, IMO, is Talkie version with Roland. It's.......in jail for kissing ALL the chefs. (especially if you don't like the remaster graphics, which I don't care for personally)

[native mesa]

I like the gameblaster variant

[zinc dew]

You’re a game master

it autocorrected me fml

[native mesa]

https://youtu.be/hF6YpwQ8YEk?si=EPX-y2UBmG9Jwpl-

[fair stump]

@zinc dew

[manic basin]

Gave me Amiga vibes up front with the separate voices.

My friend John plays trumpet in a virtual band and they covered Monkey Island...it's pretty great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23yQdLtP7GI

[hollow rune]

@orchid nimbus I just convinced my parents to get a 10ft Cat5

[brisk drum]

5 cats ?

Broh your place is gonna smell

[latent galleon]

3 is limit

cat3

[brisk drum]

And they are 10ft cats!!

[solid crest]

Thank you for checking. I got the same thing but I wasn’t sure if I merged the emulator and rom together correctly.

[latent galleon]

end to end

[native mesa]

Are 10 ft cats local?

[hollow rune]

I am imagining an entire network running through cats connected end to end

[brisk drum]

Don’t do it bro they’ll put you in jail

And for good reason too

[native mesa]

Feline centipede

[hollow rune]

Are there fiber optic cats

?

[manic basin]

Yeah, I'm not sure either. It won't load in simple64 either. So maybe their instructions are outdated. I dunno.

[brisk drum]

Not yet but I heard Japan is working on it

[hollow rune]

Holy Biscuit Dough. Chameleon Twist crashed on the last boss!

[solemn marlin]

So much south park rally slander... it just has a lot of racing modes as well as normal ones, a lot to unlock, I definitely have nostalgia for it

[cerulean elk]

Haha that’s fair

[solemn marlin]

The positive spin is that it has a lot of stuff for the obsessive player to unlock, might be a bit shite tho, don't think it's the worst kart one on the console

[brisk drum]

What’s the worse ?

[cerulean elk]

South Park rally 🤣

Playing. Playing

[solemn marlin]

Lol it might be the worst tbh

[hollow rune]

Also looking online the Japanese version of Chameleon Twist has way more content, whole rooms are different, there are items in the single player stages, and there are unlockable characters

[solemn marlin]

Haven't played through mickey's speedway but it looks and plays better, might be up to whether you enjoy the south park setting more which I kind of do

[elfin relic]

there's a translation patch for the Japanese version of Chameleon Twist for those that need it and want to play the more content

[fair stump]

Anyone have good links on how to do simple n64 hacks?

[rose elbow]

ive still not played thru the US version properly. i imagine it'll be fine to check that out first?

[rose elbow]

https://tcrf.net/Chameleon_Twist#Level_Layout

ooh ok the japanese version looks way better!

i guess western team got an early build to localize while the team kept working on it or something like that? it just seems like a more finished version of the game lol

and the release dates are only days apart

[dusty tusk]

Might be something similar to what happened in reverse when Japanese companies got access to western RPGs, but on the same console

[wraith estuary]

Hack64 - Hacking and modding N64 games - /68WJ4TP
SM64 ROMHacks - Server dedicated to Super Mario 64 ROM hacking - /BYrpMBG
OverKart 64 - Modding and hacking Mario Kart 64 - /Zd4aJf6ENW
Hylian Modding - Modding and hacking Legend of Zelda games - /sZgH787
Paper Mario Modding - Hacking and modding Paper Mario - /yTgKjaW

you need to put discord . gg in front of those links. the bot won't let me post invites in the chat

[dusty tusk]

I wonder if someone with more experience could patch the bits to unlock the devils bottle mode into tooie without GameShark codes

[fair stump]

Awesome, thank you very much 👍

[solemn marlin]

I changed my mind, south park rally is a good game for those who appreciate jank

Every second you're driving into a cow or a bus, going through some extremely unbalanced new game mode which you can barely understand, collecting underwear, it's great

Also every item you pick up is beyond any logic or reason, even when you use them you can't understand what they do

[manic basin]

https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1054/

I haven't tried it...but...

[dusty tusk]

oooh

[manic basin]

Oh, nevermind. Looks like it's just a pre-application of the code to the GG logic.

Not actually bypassing the code.

[dusty tusk]

Found something else though. https://www.romhacking.net/utilities/1659/

[manic basin]

Ah cool! Lemme know if it works!

It was released two weeks ago... I wonder if it's sparked by the sudden uptick in N64 activity for...you know...reasons.

[dusty tusk]

will check it out and report my findings

[zinc dew]

I wish there were actually metrics on how the core has influenced retro gaming as a whole but I feel the PS1/Saturn/N64 has catapulted the MiSTer into being more well known.

But you see a lot of telling signs pop up here and there.

[latent galleon]

listen newbie

[zinc dew]

It’s true! I am newbie lol.

[river shale]

Can’t you just overlay core development milestones with discord membership stats over time?

[thorn flax]

mario keeps freezing on me at the spash screen do I need to upgrade my ram to dual?

[jade jetty]

depends on what you're trying to measure

"influence" is a pretty loose concept

[zinc dew]

Super Mario 64 utilizes a hardware function called TLB that’s currently not supported on the core. At this time you’ll need to patch your game to bypass the interactive Mario face in order to play the game.

Patch is in the pins but here’s a link - #1096015979055697940 message

wait you’re trolling

[thorn flax]

tlb, like the sandwich?

[zinc dew]

lol damnit

[raw oriole]

You say that, but as a counterexample #midi message

[manic basin]

I remember this, you monster.

[raw oriole]

Beta testing is fun 😄

[latent galleon]

https://www.polygon.com/22640171/mister-project-classic-gaming-retro-fpga-board-chip-io-explainer-usb-hub @zinc dew that was probably peak hype, and so sad i don't see comments

they got brutal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyDqGdY7ffQ

and then that on its tail

i don't remember where PSX was in november 2021 though

[zinc dew]

You’re right, I remember reading that article

It was that, YouTube coverage, and the PS1 core that convinced me I had to get one.