Nintendo 64

[wraith estuary]

I was just thinking I should pick up my 3ds and mess with it. Perfect timing

[vapid hawk]

there's a super unique version of resident evil 1 on the DS too

[rose elbow]

ohh never heard of this

i quite enjoyed the 3DS version of MM specifically for the reason of it being a streamlined version of the game. it's definitely a different game a little bit

[manic basin]

It's still in progress. It's only what was in the first asset pack (vp0, I think) of the game. But I'm not sure exactly how much that is. I'm at TC12.

[vapid hawk]

thats weird, they only have up to tc7 in their source control

https://github.com/lambertjamesd/portal64/tree/master/assets/test_chambers

[manic basin]

Not sure, maybe it's just specific elements? 7 is where the energy ball appears I think.

12 is doing me in with the N64 controller.

Mouse and keyboard is cake (yeah, yeah) but it's really tough with the stick for me.

[deft tree]

last i played it only went to 14

i should see how far it is now

[manic basin]

That's probably the limit. That feels about right for the size of the part file used.

[trim seal]

Powerpuff Girls still has a lot of textures missing / blinking in and out.

[cerulean elk]

Diplomacy merit badge achieved (honestly it’s how I feel but lol)

Lol people having arguments on Twitter and tagging my ass in them

[fierce girder]

This should be the new meme game, maybe the worst Power Stone clone ever made. And I’ve rolled credits on it.

[trim seal]

Not sure if I should commend you or comfort you tbh.

[fierce girder]

Back when I worked for Shacknews (cough name dropped cough), I used to stream for them and was playing through the N64 library

I beat 30 games before I eventually moved on to having a real job

PPG was among the worst for sure

[manic basin]

Did you patch it or are you running the build? The build seems to take a TON of vpk files, so maybe it's more complete if you directly build it.... I dunno. But it just had a checkin 6 hours ago that fixes GladOS in the elevator it appears.

[deft tree]

i built it off my steam copy of portal

[manic basin]

I've only run the patch (also off my steam copy).

[deft tree]

it was several months ago im sure theres more level snow

[severe rock]

Pat contri is surprisingly out of touch with the retro scene for someone who lives off of it

[manic basin]

Every time I see him I can't help but think of the cotton candy wizard from Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ4AkzEUvGA

[severe rock]

And completely misunderstood replicant813. Maybe they both did

[cerulean elk]

People arguing and tagging me. Leave me alone. I’m just here for the fun!

[severe rock]

I usually untag people when I want to challenge someone on twitter, its basic twitter etiquette. Though I rustled a few feathers before learning you could actually untag people

[spark granite]

I mentioned it earlier and said that it's too expensive 🙂 I was hoping it would have built in N64 ports, not have to fork out more for hdmi to n64 cables 🙂

[fierce garden]

Likewise - but with originals. They’re all in the closet 😆

[brisk edge]

local man makes neutral statement, unknowingly choosing sides

[native mesa]

has anyone gotten rumble working on 8bitdo mod kit yet?

I just got the stone of agony

[latent galleon]

nurp

[cerulean elk]

I avoid the pissing matches like the plague

[brisk edge]

that is fair, but sometimes it's damn near impossible on the bird site lol

[latent galleon]

african grey owners find offense at everything

[mortal panther]

I take extreme comfort in the fact that I have multiple MiSTers, and now an N64 core that is already in amazing shape... and I am enjoying FPGA N64 gaming now, not in 2025+.

[cerulean elk]

Exactly

[modern sleet]

I think the guys point was analogue is almost certain lifting Robert core to make a profit, so in that sense it's a lesser announcement.

[compact depot]

Play it TODAY on MiSTer FPGA 😎

[viscid quiver]

Yeah it does wind up being a little bit $ wise

[cerulean elk]

I didn’t read it all. I muted it

I didn’t see anyone mention Bomberman after all

[dreamy ridge]

bomberman HERO???

[celest sierra]

speaking of which, I had bomberman 64 as a kid and it is still one of my faves, screw the haters

I loved the puzzly levels

bouncing on bombs to get higher

[crisp kayak]

The N64 bomberman trilogy is the peak of the series

[cerulean elk]

Hero primarily but I love them all

[celest sierra]

I like the traditional bomberman games, sure, I wouldn't say I like them MORE, but also I wouldn't say they're bad in any way

[dreamy ridge]

4-player multitap super bomberman was a high watermark in my gaming existence

[junior yarrow]

better or worse than Tom and Jerry on N64?

[junior yarrow]

get some 10 Player Saturn Bomberman

[celest sierra]

maybe if it wasn't called bomberman people would hate it less, kind of like how megaman battle network is also amazing

[crisp kayak]

rip Hudson. Konami ate them and then exploded

[dreamy ridge]

i couldn't afford a saturn when it was out, but that certainly was the dream 🤣

[tepid gorge]

https://x.com/iam_agg/status/1714003759783891179?s=46
It’s been confirmed false that Analogue is using Robert’s core in any way

And you can see Robert’s own reply above that one

[modern sleet]

Yeah I dont buy it, but i'm speculating and have no proof at all 🙂

[rose elbow]

itd be an absurd assumption tbh. analogue have their own dev/s(?) on board with good track record, the n64 mister core isn’t finished. no reason to throw around assumptions like that

it’d make more sense for them to do a psx console if you wanna go down that route lol

unless i’m missing something about their previous products but that claim seems to have come outta nowhere

[weary beacon]

Since you mention it, it's a bit surprising that they haven't. It's the far easier road to travel, and it's not like there's no nostalgia to mine.

[latent galleon]

literally all of this belongs in #appliances er, i mean #fpga-platforms

i do find it suspicious that mister always does it first now though!

[random portal]

I wish RetroBit was making something.

[rose elbow]

mister has a lot more devs around the world contributing work at this point. it’s definitely an edge mister has being an open source project

[random portal]

8bitdo and RetroFighters are pretty much the only aftermarket guys bringing modern ergonomics to vintage consoles.

[latent galleon]

it's pretty weird that the exact same thing happened with the GBA core right before it got its first official mister release, if i remember correctly...google says i might

in the middle of polishing up the GBA core the pocket was announced

[random portal]

And only announced

[tepid gorge]

They actually had the design ready when they announced it though if I remember correctly

And their selling point with that always seemed to be GB/GBC, with the perfectly 10x screen

[latent galleon]

i'm just saying it's a lot easier to do something when it's already been done, and comes with an instruction manual for how to do it again

i agree about form factor though, which they really can't replicate

[tepid gorge]

Well I thought their announcement today would be a wide Pocket

[latent galleon]

ok i feel bad clogging up this channel for real now so

[topaz otter]

so the analogue n64 thing, what hardware are they running it on?

i mean it has to be an fpga right

[compact depot]

It doesn’t exist yet, so it runs over /dev/null

[topaz otter]

lol

but this is a call full of fpga nerds

so I want some guesses at what hardware it might use

[tepid gorge]

There was an interview published with the CEO earlier and he said it’s an FPGA supposedly more powerful than the Cyclone V they’d been using in their products

[compact depot]

It should be an FPGA yeah

[tepid gorge]

But I don’t think he said which one it is

[compact depot]

Probably running a TIVOized version of Robert’s core

[topaz otter]

i wonder if they are having something custom made?

[fair stump]

Some kind of #fpga-platforms

[topaz otter]

but thats gotta be expensive

[compact depot]

Good call. Let’s take this convo there

[topaz otter]

i just clicked on that

and they are having a conversation about LG dryers

[latent galleon]

i have a heat pump now, ok?!

[compact depot]

Appliances running FPGA

[fair stump]

Tell them to go to #washerdryer

[mortal panther]

I want the N64 core ported to my dryer!

[eternal ravine]

What we need is more channels

[topaz otter]

yes, more channels that people don't use

and faqs that nobody reads

[eternal ravine]

Exactly

[latent galleon]

this channel is just special, it's an in-development core with developer participation

[latent galleon]

also robert seems to scroll through and read every word daily so

[mortal panther]

No off-topic animated GIFs, too!

[topaz otter]

he lets a screen reader read it to him while he codes

[compact depot]

Is GIF police still out on vacations?

[topaz otter]

this chat probably sounds stupid coming from microsoft sam

[topaz otter]

he was exiled to siberia

[mortal panther]

That's cold...

[topaz otter]

he now mans a guard post there

[eternal ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-64-mario-64-3d-platformer-funny-jumping-box-gif-6849074470830720606

[mortal panther]

Mario never was too terribly bright...

[topaz otter]

i swear the boxes in that game were designed to be pure evil

[mortal panther]

Luigi was always the smart one.

[eternal ravine]

I'm just trying to stay on topic

I may have to make some Seagal N64 GIFs

[weary palm]

Atrix-7

[zinc dew]

https://tenor.com/view/police-gif-gif-20652842

[topaz otter]

ok the guys in that other chat are dumb, I'm not posting in there anymore

[eternal ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-23247422

[zinc dew]

🚨🚥🚨

How can I be of service?

[topaz otter]

arrest that man!

[zinc dew]

Arrested!

[topaz otter]

so the fpga I'm guessing is just a chip

[eternal ravine]

Ugh, just when my name color had finally darkened

[topaz otter]

but like the DE-10 nano its a custom platform that the fpga sits on

[zinc dew]

yes

[topaz otter]

ok see that makes sense

those other guys didn't explain that at all

[eternal ravine]

This popped up when searching for seagal and N64
Seems like a stretch

He probably would request his character be sitting down, tho

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[eternal ravine]

Can you wheeze cough make my wheeze cough
character be hack wheeze sitting down

[mortal panther]

What a joke that guy turned out to be.

[weary palm]

Oops, I shot him.

[mortal panther]

Now I only have two reasons to watch Under Siege. 😏

[eternal ravine]

Look, those first 4-5 movies are pretty solid

But I shan't stray from the topic at hand

[topaz otter]

this gif isn't playing

[mortal panther]

Of course not! I follow the rules!

[topaz otter]

you better

[mortal panther]

...except for that 'on-topic' one. Still working on that one.

[topaz otter]

or else Tim the impaler will throw you in the pit

Tim the detractor

Tim the distiller

[zinc dew]

I don’t want to make anyone jealous but I have an N64 core for the MiSTer

[rose elbow]

Congratulatoins!!!

ive not played around with the latest core yet, im out of the loop a bit :)

out of the loop = not checked the core for the past ~3 days

[zinc dew]

no I’ve got a special core that no one else has

[rose elbow]

ok now im jealous!!!!!

what is it ???

[zinc dew]

It plays N64 games

[rose elbow]

i have one of those

[zinc dew]

Nope you have the not real one that connects to a server and streams the n64 game video

Only I have the real N64 core and I’m holding it hostage

[mortal panther]

Wait... what?!

Well, joke's on you. It won't play anything until Christmas.

[topaz otter]

Lodgenet 64?

you should charge people 4.99 an hour to play it

I've seen a picture of the hotel room hardware for that thing, I always wondered what the rack mounted stuff looked like

[orchid nimbus]

It's a Me Ron Jeremy!!

here is the hardware

[mild ether]

Damn, I thought those hotel rental charges were going to charity.

[orchid nimbus]

https://imgur.com/a/Sk15rJA

[orchid nimbus]

lol @ reply 🙂 @mild ether

[mild ether]

It's cool that Nintendo made that hardware for them.

[mortal panther]

It's Mario, the Pipe Cleaner.

[craggy kettle]

Is that the actor who does Mario's voice or... a different kind of actor altogether?

[native mesa]

That's a peen actor

[craggy kettle]

I guess even they like to dress up from time to time

[native mesa]

They get paid to

[craggy kettle]

lol

[fading cobalt]

Hi, how do I get the n64 core for my mister?

[junior yarrow]

you can add a few lines to update all

check the pinned messages

[fading cobalt]

should have done that first, thanks

[junior yarrow]

I assume Mario Artist Studio is more fun with the mouse

[weary perch]

amazing how many games are near-perfect now

[junior yarrow]

w-wait

hold on

i didnt know

i had no idea

that wario ware was in mario artist polygon studio

[cold pollen]

Wait what

[junior yarrow]

RIGHT???

[cold pollen]

What's Mario Artist Polygon Studio

[junior yarrow]

its a nintendo 64 DD game

[cold pollen]

so that's the proto Wario Ware?

[junior yarrow]

not all of it

but theres a mode in it

[viral portal]

WarioWare has always been a bit of a look back on Nintendo's history. I didn't know these minigames were a throw back to a 64DD game though, that's awesome.

Makes me wonder if some other minigames I thought were just unique random quirkiness are related to something that either didn't release or didn't come overseas.

[storm vessel]

Wait, DD games aren’t working on the core, are they? (I’d love to play the F-Zero track editor someday)

[viral portal]

Nope, not in the scope. For now. Maybe.

[junior yarrow]

there are n64 dd games that are hacked to work on an everdrive and those i believe do boot

at least, thats i think im playing on my mister right now?

[viral portal]

yeah, if it's edited and hacked to act like a normal cartridge without the DD involved, for sure.

[storm vessel]

Not F-Zero tho , right?

Track editor

[junior yarrow]

i think that works too? im not sure

[storm vessel]

I didn’t know such a thing existed, gotta check

[viral portal]

So long as there's a hack for it to work like a regular N64 game, and the bits and bobs in the N64 needed for it to run are working on the core, it should be fine.

Just no DD stuff natively.

[orchid nimbus]

some DD games run

but you need to have the ones that are adjusted

[wanton sun]

please upload the save that works in emulators so i can try it

[manic basin]

OK, kids. We're done. Core's perfect.
(ScummVM works perfectly)

[half venture]

scumvm on n64?

[manic basin]

Yep

[junior yarrow]

Finally I can play Sam and Max hit the road in its ideal format

[latent galleon]

that is genuinely impressive

[manic basin]

It runs super well, too.

You just have to use a tool to convert your games into an image file, concat it with the boot binary, then run the checksum tool to fix the checksum.

You know...way too much work for the output. but still.

[rose elbow]

d:
dir
cd DOTT

[river shale]

RSP crash using latest build on October 16th. This is using the homebrew demo alien sun.
Not sure if this kind of thing is helpful or not.

https://n64squid.com/alien-sun/

[wanton sun]

yes it's known, almost all libdragon made homebrew has this random crash

[half venture]

wow thats cool i always wanted to run scummvm on CRT with the misterfpga cool stuff

[orchid nimbus]

you break it you buy it!

[manic basin]

I've used AO486 plenty (and Minimig, of course), but yeah, unless you have an actual VGA you're hosed. This is a cool way to do it on a consumer TV for sure!

[half venture]

Yes exactly, I couldnt get the perfect aspect ratio to run the pc games on my JVC pro monitor. this will deff make dreams come true

[solemn marlin]

Not to detract from the neatness of scummvm64, there is a mister port, that would also allow you to play higher res stuff

[orchid nimbus]

it's arm based

use native scummv,64

[solemn marlin]

I get curse of monkey island and even blade runner to work on it tho, not sure how well a scummvm game needs to perform

Grim fandango is no go tho

[half venture]

Are you talking about the scummvm script for the mister?

[novel junco]

Just an FYI for anyone with the RetroBit Tribute 64 wired controller -- the latest MiSTer unstable makes the controller SIGNIFICANTLY better to use. I was struggling quite a bit with Doom 64 with the default stick configuration since it was nearly double the base sensitivity but now it feels significantly better 👍

[solemn marlin]

Yea

[half venture]

I remember trying it a long time ago, works great but it wouldn't work on my PVMs. Has that changed by any chance?

[solemn marlin]

I had to fiddle a little with resolutions but it worked for me

[latent galleon]

might as well use a raspberry pi and chuck your mister in the toilet!

[half venture]

I have used RGB-PI works okay with scummvm

[solemn marlin]

Those point and click games arent very tv compatible imho

You get the sense that you're supposed to play them up close to the screen, looking for details, clicking on small things

[manic basin]

<cries in Monkey Island on Sega CD>

Yeah, I just got it going as a curiosity. For ScummVM I play either PC or my Jetson Nano which hosts all of my 'a little too much for MiSTer' stuff in my streaming setup. But I haven't even plugged it in in ages because it's just nicer to sit in a comfy chair and use a nice big screen (when playing point and clicks). I do love playing the older games on MiSTer where I can. The Talkie versions of Monkey Island 1 and 2 are excellent on AO486.

With the MT32 pumping the music.

[rose elbow]

the 8bitdo keyboard got me playing around with ao486 core again more. it's def one of those things where.. i could technically be doing this elsewhere but .. its fun doing it all from the mister

and being able to say "ahh scrap this im bored" and jump to zelda 2

[manic basin]

Hehe, for sure!

[trim seal]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-and-max-gif-gif-20392496

[thorn flax]

#1096015979055697940 message

[random portal]

are there any cool homebrews you guys like?

or is it mostly tech demo type stuff?

[manic basin]

Portal is top of the list.

[random portal]

wait what

[manic basin]

https://github.com/lambertjamesd/portal64

[trim seal]

Portal 64 is one of those things that you can't believe it's happening even when you're playing it.

[manic basin]

The N64 pc doom ports are very good as well.

[trim seal]

But then, we're playing N64 on MiSTer, so it's a tad easier to suspend disbelief.

[manic basin]

Hehe, truth.

Some other great games that are more mods than homebrew: Smash Remix, Mario 64 ....uh...complete or ultimate or something along those lines. It incorporates a few QoL things like the framerate smoothing from Kaze (I haven't tried the 60fps version in a while but it was all over the place last time I tried it). Cubivore is fantastic...it's an unreleased game that got moved to GameCube, but it's fantastic on 64 as well.

There are some cool modern releases too. The standout there is Xenocrisis, though you may have to enable writeback in debug settings to get it to load.

The rom is very cheap and they give you a few versions.

[silver galleon]

Got my 8bitdo mod kit today and I’m having an impossible time getting up and down on my stick to work in game. Any suggestions?

[junior yarrow]

I know one person tried to hack the Gameboy emulators in Pokemon Stadium to play other games

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4506/

i do think if/when the transfer pak works, it might be fun to play around with this also lol

[storm vessel]

😱 🙏😃

[orchid nimbus]

Others have had the same issue

[bronze tree]

Doom64 is pretty 🙂

[manic basin]

Is anyone else having trouble saving in it? I have my password since i was capturing, but the LC and RC buttons do nothing. Like ze goggles.

[chrome quest]

Try mapping the c buttons as if they are a right analog stick, when mapping in main. Might help?
Also be sure to complete the mapping process, hit the skip button for prompted buttons you don't have (like mouse), but go through everything until your automatically kicked back to the main menu

[lament escarp]

This could be pinned by now. Recurring issue.

[remote hatch]

Do you press two at once? In my case the save works ok

[wild pulsar]

It stays on a black screen for me, md5 is "759934eeb21987d29bc462f721b8cd55", am i using the good translated version ?

[manic basin]

Never occurred to me it was an & not an | situation. I'll give that a go, thanks!

[quaint pewter]

Hi. I just created a fresh save in Simple64 and got past the first part of the intro. I copied save 1 to save 2 and also copied save to first slot of cpak, so the 32k sram should have two copies of the save in. three identical saves across that and the cpak. in the core, you cannot even suspend your game and go back to title without it being corrupted (this is without opening the osd so nothing leaves the core to the sdcard).

I hope this helps you diagnose what is going wrong in sram on the core. I have read that this game saves after every step you take in the game, and also may use the sram for scratch memory. I don't know if this makes any difference. but the fact that it corrupts, or is never accurate internally, without going to sdcard made me thing that it's something inside the core rather than when it's saving to card.

[silver galleon]

Thanks! I thought I was completing the mapping process in main but apparently was not. I got it running in switch mode with all directions working. No rumble but I’m not even sure that’s supposed to work on these yet. Happy just having controls.

[lament escarp]

For rumble you need the driver update from unstable. But there are issues with having to pair the controller each time it's connected via blue tooth

[vapid hawk]

oh cool, that Doom64: complete edition (romhack) actually uses the rom from the nightdive release of doom64 on steam

[tender pine]

Sorry for the numb question: do the recent beta core releases still need the unstable main?

[vapid hawk]

its £4 right now

nice to support a retro dev

[silver galleon]

Ok I’ll definitely wait on that then. I’ve been watching development daily for months now but didn’t want to check it out until I had a proper controller. This core is amazing exactly where it stands. Playing on mister via component vs N64 on composite is a night and day difference and so many games run amazing already.

[cerulean elk]

What’s new? Couldn’t sleep cause so excited bout N64 (ok I was up chasing someone stealing catalytic converters from our block 😂)

[vapid hawk]

doom64 is fixed up and working great now

[cerulean elk]

Haha I have that for 4 today. Twas mostly a joke because I’m wide awake and annoyed about it

Like the sixth time this year we’ve been woken up to sawing under cars

[lament escarp]

Sounds like something that would convince me to use public transport

[cerulean elk]

Ir sucks here. Unreliable AF

[lament escarp]

Someone sawing off your exhause also sounds unreliable

[cerulean elk]

Luckily our car is low to the ground

[elfin relic]

what if someone saws off the bus' cat? Now it's the worst of everything

[vapid hawk]

dont buses mostly run on LNG and stuff these days?

[elfin relic]

depends on where you are

[cerulean elk]

Chicago they still belch smoke. Gas. Maybe diesel

[elfin relic]

probs diesel

[zenith orchid]

it should have two patches bundled, one for the doom64 rom, and another for the Nightdive iwad, which makes it into a bps patch for the doom64 rom. it's really interesting how they did that

[vapid hawk]

yeah

this is the kind of DRM i can get behind 😛

nah i assume they're actually using that first bps to extract the levels out of the nightdive wad

which creates a second bps to inject them back into og

very neat

[cerulean elk]

That is kind of interesting

[vapid hawk]

i know i said before but doom64 is a really good pc port and cheap on steam

buy a rom

[zenith orchid]

I didn't buy it, but I probably will at some point. Nightdive did some good work on that port

[cerulean elk]

They do good work. Recent ROTT remaster is legit

Best way to play now

[vapid hawk]

i liked what they did with system shock a lot

[cerulean elk]

I need to try that still

I was gonna play it on Steam Deck

[balmy dagger]

I knew you were alright. 😄

[cerulean elk]

ROTT is GOAT lol

[compact depot]

Doom 64 runs super smoothly

Is this the best way to play Doom on the MiSTer now?

[balmy dagger]

Well... best way to play Doom 64 on MiSTer.

[vapid hawk]

it does run really well

[safe robin]

Doom 64 is different from the original Doom but very cool in its own way, thats why it got a Remaster for the PC a few years ago

[lament escarp]

Ps1 doom is also really good

[cerulean elk]

It’s such a unique version. Every console kept getting straight ports. Doom 64 did its own thing which was awesome at the time

[balmy dagger]

I know 🙂

[vapid hawk]

they really should of just called it doom3

[broken creek]

It's technically a true sequel to Doom 2, not a version of previous Dooms.

Per Carmack or Romero I think, been a while since I read the article on it.

[balmy dagger]

So is the NSO 64 controller working any better under bluetooth these days? Last time I tried it I kept getting ghost inputs from it in even the MiSTer menus. It was a driver thing, right?

[rose elbow]

dont think i can recall have ghost inputs personally

[broken creek]

I'm not a fan of the joystick on the NSO controller. The spring has more resistance (than OG) and it feels obvious that there are two potentiometers in the stick module for X and Y axis. Inputs feel fine though.

[rose elbow]

(the only time i've been noticing ghost inputs recently is like, when i reboot mister for example.. and the mister OSD takes a second to come up. generally around then i'll get a ghost input or two. but thats not specific to bluetooth or n64 core)

[safe robin]

with the NSO i always got ghost inputs when in the "Define joystick buttons" menu. i had to do it 3-4 times until i got at least the important buttons mapped correctly

after that in the core itself the mapping wasnt that bad

[rose elbow]

oo that's a good way to test it. i havent updated yet, i'll have a look

[safe robin]

i did it on saturday first time and noticed it .)

[balmy dagger]

Yes! That was my experience as well.

[rose elbow]

that wouldnt be specific to the N64 core right ?

[safe robin]

i guess its the nso controller, i only noticed it in the mister main menu in "Define joystick buttons"

[balmy dagger]

Not at all. It was happening just trying to navigate menus after I setup mine.

[safe robin]

i normally use ps4 and ps5 controllers and never had any ghost input there

[balmy dagger]

NSO is the only controller I've had the issue with. I figured it was due to driver issues. This channel seemed like the best chance of someone else having tested it. 🙂

[broken creek]

Anyone test the 8bitdo mod kit lately? Specifically the joystick? It work well?

[rose elbow]

interestinteresting

[lilac scroll]

I have one. A few games played fine. I can do the controller test thing but I don’t know if that’s a rom or a script.

[cerulean elk]

and exporting N64 vid for 4 today. Catalytic converter thieves just helped me start my day early lol

didnt want to be up at 4:45 but may as well take advantage!

[native mesa]

Hopefully they got your shotgun instead of your cat

[rose elbow]

i was on the unstable builds previously but moved back to stable i think.
i'm on stable mister 230915. i also at some point replaced the zImage_dtb file with the one that's in the pins, not sure if that got updated in an update_all as well though(?). the zImage_dtb i currently have was updated 09/09. and i wanna say i'm not getting noticing ghost inputs here 🤔

[cerulean elk]

lol weird you say that cause I am looking at Doom for the thumbnail and its a shotgun

[cerulean elk]

what do we like? I think Doom

[lament escarp]

Doom

[cerulean elk]

thats what I was feeling too

[viscid quiver]

Is Doom64 like just regular Doom?

I'll just look it up.

Wait what the heck I gotta play this!

[rose elbow]

a whole new game!

[cold pollen]

The one that works in ARM?

[viscid quiver]

Yeah unreal. My brother's going to lose his mind.

[cold pollen]

Oh on N64

[viscid quiver]

We slept on this game back in the day but had the PC ones.

[rose elbow]

yeah i remember having some similar thoughts of like, .. it took me a minute to realize it was a unique game

and even back then realizing it was a unique game, it took a bit of time to appreciate how cool that was LOL

i think there was something just inherently uncool about Doom coming out on the Nintendo 64, and seeing magazines advertise it and stuff. compared to other games

[viscid quiver]

Just realized I am going to be sitting there this Holidays, Drinking coffee with alot of Baileys in it blasting around in the Snow biome in DKR lol

[viscid quiver]

Because you weren't getting pc doom with the mods and keyboard play I guess

Is my guess.

[native mesa]

Always pinky

I'd prefer it in PC with the WAD

[rose elbow]

Doom 64 is Out Now on PC also!

[worn delta]

One nice thing I just noticed, Morita Shougi 64 (Japan).z64 (AKA the cart that had the modem built into it) is now playable. So doesn't look like it needs a weird mapper added for just this game 🙂

[cerulean elk]

pinky won

[elfin relic]

can't wait to fail at shogi in all 64 bits

[pure ocean]

@wanton sun WWF war Zone (Europe) and WWF Attitude (Germany) boot into E0000010 and hang. Otherwise: Congratulations your core is very advanced lately. It's harder to find abviously easy to see bugs. Top Gear Rally (Europe) maybe interesting. Starts with scrambled text (no controller pak) and scrambled in menu text and has some missing textures and wrong dust car shadows in attract mode. Not as interesting and much as it was in Automobil Lamborghini though but if you enjoyed it, feel free 😅

[viscid quiver]

Is there any method to get some kind of cartridge tilt going on?

Maybe an additional option or something because I really like that in SM64

https://youtube.com/shorts/Kj93NJapuRc?si=DGc6urea_nn3_l7w

[onyx minnow]

get an electrical engineer to figure out which pins lost contact and what those pins were for haha

[viscid quiver]

Hehe. Maybe down the road if they are looking to add additional features that could be one. We always had alot of fun doing this to mario.

[daring meteor]

Iirc its failing reads from ROM

But not sure if its random data, or failing data

PI.vhd line 448 in core code

[prisma ivy]

someone linked me to a Youtube video yesterday by Stop Skeletons From Fighting where he tested the N64 mouse with lots of games. I forget who gave me the link but TYVM - it was very entertaining

[viscid quiver]

Dreamcast has a mouse too.

[vapid hawk]

no its a completely unique doom game, they should of called it doom3

it is, in the canon, a direct sequel to doom 2

[viscid quiver]

So it's like Doom 2.5?

[native mesa]

I know you can do it on emulators https://youtu.be/IPkDvrM7Hwg?si=bgr3K4r7xFZvGNXk

[vapid hawk]

honestly if anything doom2 should of been called doom1.5 and doom64 should of been called doom2

[daring meteor]

I'll try to see what the setting does

[viscid quiver]

I plaued the Doom game on Xbox One. Idk....

Wolfenstein. Idk if I liked those games.

[native mesa]

It's just Doom 3 since original doom 3 isn't canon

[viscid quiver]

The one was kinda scary haha

[native mesa]

Or a parallel universe or some dumb shit

[viscid quiver]

I like it better when they put 64 after every game name. Really sells it.

[native mesa]

Wish they stayed with ultra

Ultra Mario

[daring meteor]

The PJ64 thing is that it randomally writes garbage on DMA

[solemn marlin]

How many versions are there to play? The ao486 one, psx, 32x, n64? Doom 64 is the best version of doom 64 since that's the only way to play it but it doesn't have the fart music of 32x

[compact depot]

Didn't know it was a completely different game and not just another Doom 1 port! Great game anyways! 👍

[solemn marlin]

I guess you can play it on pc as well with the nightdive remaster, or go another round, and patch the n64 rom with the nightdive content and play the remastered version on n64 🤔

[zinc dew]

It is!

I named all the fast travel points in the Mars level after level locations in DOOM 3 lol.

[cerulean elk]

some say the canon is you are the space marine

others say you are a vampires familiar

We will never know

@zinc dew since you worked at ID, can you confirm the Pinkies overly aggressive attitude and appearance was modeled after @brisk drum first girlfriend?

[thorn flax]

it's actually the "real doom 3" according to my Doom lore keeping friend

[viscid quiver]

Karl Jobs post a video about beating that one level 100% that you couldn't for the longest time.

I wonder what kind of dope secrets Doom64 must have.

[zinc dew]

Oops was ignoring the DOOM 1/2 connection, just thinking of the new games,

[zinc dew]

You’re right

[thorn flax]

aw. robby I was just reading that

[mortal panther]

If we can't figure this all out...

[thorn flax]

[zinc dew]

Yah, the DOOM 64 marine is the DOOM 1 and 2 marine.

DOOM 3 is its own thing now.

That along with the RPG games

[thorn flax]

sorry, just printing this off to hang on the wall

[zinc dew]

lol

I will take partial credit for bringing that game back to prominence. I was a real big fan and got the Unmaykr added as a secret weapon and pushed for the lore connection.

Love DOOM 64

[last scarab]

i enjoyed the night dive studios remaster edition for PC right after beating the N64 port

[zinc dew]

Yeah, they’re awesome.

[last scarab]

both are amazing! 🙂

[thorn flax]

I remember seeing doom3 in an edge magazine review.

they were mixed on it

although they were also hilariously mixed on the original for what it's worth

[native mesa]

Robby the doom slayer

[zinc dew]

DOOM 3 is cool. DOOM (2016) was originally more like it but we changed directions because it wasn’t fun gameplay wise. Level design and aesthetics still heavily inspired by it though.

Ok sorry I’m off topic again.

DOOM 64 is great, play it on the core if you can.

[vapid hawk]

get the complete edition romhack its rad

[last scarab]

i felt like doom 3 was less polished?

never tried any other doom after that. I went back to Doom 2, Doom 64

[vapid hawk]

omg you have to play Doom (2016) its so good

[native mesa]

I read there weren't even going to be guitars in doom 2016 initially. Glad the yes men didnt get their way

[zinc dew]

It was a tech showpiece. Carmack led the design of it to the detriment of the gameplay. He wanted something more survival horror to show off the lighting and animations.

[last scarab]

i'll have to try it thanks!

makes sense. The visuals in doom 3 at the time were sooo good.

[vapid hawk]

doom3 sold a lot of graphics cards

[zinc dew]

Our marketing director for 2016 had pretty shit taste in music and really tried to shoehorn some horrible ideas into the game. Didn’t get what we were doing and our marketing and box art suffered for it. He was let go after the game shipped.

Or he quit I don’t know, but we weren’t going to work with him again lol.

[last scarab]

oh you were workin for ID/Bethesda?

[zinc dew]

Yah for both DOOM games, one of the main Game Designers

[last scarab]

Thank you for the hard work to all of the team members!

[vapid hawk]

mick mentions this on that documentary i think, initially he didn't have any guitars in there

[fair stump]

Robby is the doom eternal guy, ask @knotty zealot

[zinc dew]

That’s wild, I didn’t know that lol

[rose elbow]

i didnt totally mind Doom 3 but my first exposure to it was the BFG edition. but i thought it was pretty fun

[vapid hawk]

you never watched it ? i've forgotten the name now

that irish guy who did loads

[rose elbow]

noclip

[vapid hawk]

thats the one yeah

[zinc dew]

Yeah I didn’t watch it cause I lived it lol

I remember he was in the office for a few days

[rose elbow]

ahha that seems understandable

[vapid hawk]

the bits about how he made the music are kind of amazing

he built a crazy contraption

[zinc dew]

Mick Gordon is amazing

[vapid hawk]

i think he called it the doom array, it was like loads of amps and pedals and stuff all hooked up wrong on purpose until it had a life of its own lol

[zinc dew]

I am pretty sure he took one of my suggestions for including more Rage Against the Machine riffs for Eternal

Meathook I think is the title

[viscid quiver]

I liked the hidden Trinkets in Doom 2016. That was about it.

[zinc dew]

I did all those

inspired by Amiibos lol

[native mesa]

I initially was bummed by the lack of thrash but he knocked it out if the park

[vapid hawk]

the one || with the fistbump || is incredible

[last scarab]

Robby did you meet

[zinc dew]

yeah, that was our lead animator’s idea lol. That’s a Big Hero 6 reference actually

I got my T2 reference with the lava death

[vapid hawk]

yeah ! so fun

[zinc dew]

Yeah a few times over the years.

[solemn marlin]

So anyone trying any performance patches, is there a list somewhere? I got one from github that made diddy kong racing run at 30-40+ fps, things like that

[vapid hawk]

romhacking.net ?

[native mesa]

Did he make you his bitch?

[zinc dew]

No but he’s really mellowed out over the years and is now generally a cool dude. I would have the opposite opinion 10 years ago though.

[vapid hawk]

sigil was neat (his new doom chapter)

[solemn marlin]

The one for dkr wasn't there, I feel they're hidden away in ongoing github projects... but I have checked, just difficult finding those specifically made to raise fps

[vapid hawk]

hm true

[cold pollen]

I hate collectibles

I blame Robby

[rose elbow]

john romero is cool as hell.

[vapid hawk]

it is mainly decomps that get performance patches - you could start from a list of those

[solemn marlin]

Good idea

[zinc dew]

Brenda Romero is and always was amazing. A shame she isn’t praised more.

[vapid hawk]

i love performance patches for old games, a lot of them can suddenly really shine with the framerate smoothed out, even just to an even 30

[zinc dew]

There was a period of time though before they got married that I had to block John on Facebook because he literally posted a daily photo of her chest boasting about it. Dude was real horny on main lmao.

[rose elbow]

my lord!

[zinc dew]

like covered up, nothing NSFW, but he did it nearly daily.

[solemn marlin]

I really like the "what if" aspect of the patches, the fact that they run on original hardware, something about that tickles me

[viscid quiver]

Anyone try Nagano yet?

[rose elbow]

unblock him, Free John!

[viscid quiver]

Winter olympics i mean, not hockey

People say it's a bad game but I disagree.

[daring meteor]

I added to my github a surprise commit that will help us later

[fair stump]

Olympics games are almost always silly fun

[zinc dew]

I unblocked him like a year after because he stopped posting them lol. This was a long time ago.

[rose elbow]

honeymoon's over, safe to unblock

i dont really know much about him outside of the games.. reading Masters of Doom..... and then also giving my brother a Doom poster, and my brother found a way to reach out to him and john full just gave out an address and said to send it and he'll sign it lolo

so from that he seems decent

[viscid quiver]

You ever see this Giga Chad around the offices?

Wonder if he's still got that sweet sweet monitor

[zinc dew]

I unfortunately have nothing nice to share about him. Mad respect but we threw a party when we ripped out his megatexture code from the engine.

Don’t meet your heroes!

[viscid quiver]

Hehe

Nah,never

[rose elbow]

so they say!

[zinc dew]

but it’s ok, I still love the guy for what he’s done

[viscid quiver]

Good on you guys for making the games for us to enjoy. As we get older we see the more gritty part of it ( the work) hope it's not all bad like I have heard ( crunch) . I like working overtime for the money

[rose elbow]

games are too big imo

[zinc dew]

I agree

[brisk drum]

Yo momma dawg!

[rose elbow]

bit of a dumb egg headed simple statement but they really are monstrosity money projects

and i do love games! :D

[zinc dew]

you’d be surprised by just how much money is wasted by and on publishers. That’s been a huge factor in ballooning costs and dev time. So many useless people at a publishing arm that gets paid big bucks. It’s maddening.

[prisma ivy]

not so much a hero but I met the guy who plays Malcolm Reed on Star Trek Enterprise at a sci fi convention years ago. He hit on my wife, said some inappropriate things to her, and then also later in the night he was making transphobic comments about the cosplayers. I love Star Trek and this was a big disappointment to me. Wife couldn't even watch the show after that.

[rose elbow]

i can definitely imagine but yeah probably have no idea

[zinc dew]

wow what a piece of shit

[viscid quiver]

Sometimes money has to get "blown" for the contract. It shouldn't be that way but this is the society we have

[rose elbow]

not sure if this falls under Never Meet your heros or Never watch Star Trek Enterprise

[brisk drum]

Trekkies are the worse!

[prisma ivy]

it was a missed opportunity not to have a Star Trek game on N64

[lilac scroll]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/john-carmack-endorses-libertarian-manifesto-written-by-billionaire-conspiracy-theorist-that-labels-social-responsibility-as-the-enemy.775724/

[brisk drum]

But that’s probably what Kirk would do

[zinc dew]

Like I don’t get it. We are all ambassadors whether we like it or not. Everything we do represents the groups and people we are a part of. It’s real easy to just think about how your actions may influence perception on what you represent. Even easier just to keep your mouth shut.

I can’t stop people from stereotyping but I can be a real nice person and maybe they walk away thinking better about Hispanics or game devs. I don’t know.

[brisk drum]

Lol some dude called me a racist slur after I solidly beat his ass back in the SFiv days , I just smiled at him and whooped his ass some more .

[prisma ivy]

next time I tell people about the MiSTer project I'll say "yeah yeah it's got an N64 core and a PSX core sure, but we've got this top notch mod on the Discord server"

[brisk drum]

That probably hurt him more than anything mean I could have said

[cold pollen]

Back in the SFVI days? So a week ago?

[mortal panther]

Thought the same thing 😄

I quite enjoyed DOOM (2016)... a lot.

[brisk drum]

Nahh , it was sfiv bro .. super had just come out and my deejay was incredibly solid on week 2

[fair stump]

I think we need a book now called Robby's Doom Diary. It can have have these behind the scenes bits and more

[native mesa]

I met Gaben. He's a great guy

[prisma ivy]

did he tell you when Half Life 3 will come out?

[solemn maple]

It's out already for VR

[cerulean elk]

Yo mama so fat she eats cacodemons for lunch

[prisma ivy]

Ah I see. I don't keep on much on new things 😄

[native mesa]

No I thanked him for all the hat money

[brisk drum]

Took you that long to come up with dat weakness ?

[cerulean elk]

capturing

[native mesa]

I read that as cardamom

[zinc dew]

Oh thank god, I really respect the dude.

[native mesa]

I was trying to work for valve earlier in my life post college, but pivoted and stayed local

[brisk drum]

Hell yeah give my momma a shout out dawg!

[zinc dew]

I wanted to work for Valve but they don’t really develop games. Great place to retire but not great if you’re trying to build a career.

[native mesa]

Well this is when they were still making games haha

[zinc dew]

That being said if they offered me a job I’d definitely take it lol.

[native mesa]

I still get royalties so its fine

[zinc dew]

Awesome!

[mild ether]

They need help making HL3 I hear.

[topaz otter]

Ron Jeremy played Mario in real life

[craggy kettle]

it was... both? 🤣

[topaz otter]

You should not look up his "filmography"

[zinc dawn]

Yeah it's apparently being released in the new year.

[orchid nimbus]

did you get the Ron Jeremy conversation from earlier?

[mild ether]

So soon!

[daring meteor]

Who's ron

[craggy kettle]

no wait, Lou Albano was the actor who played Mario

[mild ether]

That's the guy who made monkey Island right?

[native mesa]

Bob Hoskins was Mario

[craggy kettle]

Lou was the Mario from the Super Mario Bros. Super Show!

[native mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/feeling-sexy-bob-hoskins-who-framed-roger-rabbit-gif-17108205

Damn he's a short dude 5'4

got that joe rogan energy

[neat sierra]

He was famously drunk for most of the filming, which you should also be as a viewer

[thorn flax]

what a wonderful film.

[craggy kettle]

so faithful to the source material

wait we're still talking about the Super Mario Bros movie, right?

[thorn flax]

I'd love to see it at cinema, but only if i could book the whole room to block the normies

[thorn flax]

nah, Roger Rabbit

[craggy kettle]

The book it was based on was significantly different, it's worth at least reading the summary

[hexed flax]

I updated to the latest test build and unstable mister, and the latency with the NSO N64 controller is more noticeable, particularly in the OSD. Are others experiencing this?

[native mesa]

Do a luigi one

[toxic pumice]

can someone with edit access to the compat sheet make an amend for me please?

F-Zero X Expansion Kit [English] v2 LuigiBlood, Zoinkity.z64 - boots and is playable but will not save custom tracks or machines

most of those are bootable now as of yesterday's core, big update needed 🙂

[wanton sun]

thank you, i will try to see what i can find

[quasi basalt]

That's the correct hash. Make sure the CIC is set to 5167 and the save type is set to eeprom512 (EEPROM4 in the core system settings).

[last scarab]

my favorite mama joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0xq2Xg-_sw&t=61s

[weary perch]

added it for ya

[toxic pumice]

thank you very much

[tender pine]

Anybody using the Raphnet adapter for use with N64 core?

[solemn marlin]

Hope it's fixed so that it's possible to share stages/vehicles with others, that'd be cool. For some reason the first thing I played was the "Edit Cup" which is just the same simple circle stage six times, yup it's the cup you edit yourself

[toxic pumice]

for what it's worth, I was able to create a course and assign it to edit cup and play it, but it would just be completely lost on reset.

custom machines you can't even assign to the roster because it just complains the previously saved file didn't save properly. 😦

It would be very nice to somehow share tracks but i'm not sure how feasible that is, especially seeing as it doesn't seem to use the normal .sav file for doing so. from what I can gather it seems like it writes directly to the rom/disk with things like that?

(disclaimer: don't actually know what i'm talking about and could just be talking crap)

[solemn marlin]

I created a car but lost it, yea it might not be possible but still, I'd play other people's stages for sure even if I'm too lazy for the editor, seems pretty flexible

[worn delta]

If the 64DD conversations are starting to work be great if anyone testing is able to update the sheet, looked earlier and been a bit since anyone looked at those and all bar one was marked as not booting

[toxic pumice]

Most boot now from what I can gather - Someone was testing yesterday and pretty much all of them at least give you something playable now.

I'd be happy to update with edit access, i'm home in about 3 hours so I can start running through them all

[worn delta]

Is Luigiblood on this server, or anyone know his Discord haunts? He knows more than most about DD

[chilly ember]

I know he used to hang around the emulation discord but i haven't checked out that place out for years, not sure if he still does

[mild ether]

I know I have seen him on Hidden Palace and TCRF Discord servers.

[orchid nimbus]

use a Luigiboard to find out

[languid dune]

100% this. Doom 64 is effectively a direct sequel to Doom 1 and 2. And it is legit excellent.

[knotty zealot]

i don't THINK you ever mentioned you worked as a main designer on the first doom? maybe. maybe not but what the hell am i gonna do now that i realize you worked on a GOOD doom game as well? this changes everything. you fell from grace but it wasn't your fault.. just.. some of it. lol

[marble cargo]

https://youtu.be/15nNY7uofNw?si=5lkAQTKW4h1XdPgh

[native mesa]

I assume the decision to go more old school with doom Eternal was all robby

[quaint pewter]

I hope it's interesting to look into. It seems to be (to my knowledge) the only game that doesn't save. That either makes it an interesting edge case to look at or a "who cares it's just one game" I hope it's the former, and it's easy but fun for you to fix.

Just been looking back through chat and that backport of the nightdive DOOM64 to the original looks awesome. I have the game on Epic (it was one of their freebies) so I might try to do the rom patch. 🙂

[mild ether]

@zinc dew You worked on Doom? Like the original Doom?!?

[zinc dew]

Sorry, for taking things off topic. Please ping me directly if you have any questions.

[quaint pewter]

Robby is much too young and handsome to have been coding in the early 90s. LOL

[fair stump]

OG doom used digitized characters like mortal kombat. The hell knight is robby

[fierce girder]

https://x.com/FanartBirb/status/1539106685318483968?s=20

✨FanBirb 64✨ (@FanartBirb)

Finally finished one of these! ☄️

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Oh what could have been…

[prisma ivy]

Hmm that link isn't working on mobile

[fierce girder]

That should work

[prisma ivy]

I will try on desktop in a min

[mellow path]

Is there any information on these 64dd cart conversions? Like does this mean that the 64DD wasn't even that necessary in the first place? Or are these conversions only made possible through flashcarts?

[toxic pumice]

Most of them boot now but have issues

[mellow path]

I looked around but can't really find any info on how these conversions are possible, the tradeoffs running them on the DD vs Cart, etc.

[wanton sun]

anyone tried quest 64 recently if it still crashes random?

[fierce girder]

64DD is nice to mess with for a few minutes but really doesn’t have anything worth playing aside from extra f-zero tracks and doshin

[vagrant ivy]

It doesnt crash. It just voluntarily stops so your brain doesnt burst with excitement

[fierce girder]

I don’t get the fuss over it

[elfin depot]

If you are artsy Polygon studio maybe?

[toxic pumice]

Dezaemon potentially!

At the moment the DD version crashes when editing but that's an exciting one for me

[daring meteor]

Inb4 its the NBA/War Zone bug

[ember linden]

Polygon Studio has an entire open world game with lore in it as well as the original Warioware concept

It should not be ignored

[orchid nimbus]

Updated: 84% of the USA library is playable (completable+playable combined)

[ember linden]

By the way a lot of 64DD games deal with disk swapping for functionality which is why I don't think the cart conversions are sufficient in the long term

[wanton sun]

it even has the second coolest music after buck bumble?

https://youtu.be/Y16GGzvwHXY?t=550

but i'm not sure i want to hear that while drawing, haha

[chilly ember]

I left brian running in circles for 7 hours to train agility a couple builds ago and it didn't crash

[ember linden]

there's a little cd you can click on to swap to a different track

[zinc dew]

Awesome chart!

[prisma ivy]

TIL you can take a picture with the Gameboy camera and transfer it into Simcity 64

what a time to be alive

[zinc dew]

I was genuinely bummed out when I read they took that functionality out of Perfect Dark

[orchid nimbus]

blame @hexed knot for that 🙂

[subtle stream]

@wanton sun Will the N64 Mister core have the 64DD support? (without using rom conversion)

[hexed knot]

Thanks for keeping it updated though Vampier! Haven't had time during my vacation over the last week.

[quaint rune]

Originally in mgs4 it was planned for the pseye to take photos you can use as camo for your suit. Could also take a photo of your face to make your online avatar. Those ideas never saw the light of day 😭

[prisma ivy]

it's 2023: I would not be surprised at all if some SUPER dedicated person out there on the internet made it possible

[fair stump]

When tlb comes that red is gonna disappear instantly

[daring meteor]

No you forgot Jet Force Gemini that's gonna stay

(Honestly, curious what Robert will implement first haha)

[ember linden]

this did technically come back in the 3DS port of MGS3, called Photocamo

[weary perch]

fyi whoever is filtering the compatibility sheet, that applies globally to everyone. might want to make a local copy if you need to filter

[hollow rune]

Something is verz wrong with the testing sheet

[hollow rune]

Oh just saw this

[weary perch]

it's been filtered to only No Boot

they probably didn't realize it's affecting the live copy

[hollow rune]

This has been a recurring issue

[weary perch]

i can undo the filter but i figured i'd write a message here as most of the testers are in here, i think

[hollow rune]

Zou should probablz jsut undo it

[weary perch]

alright filter is back off

but yeah, heads up for anyone who needs to filter. the magic code is File > Make a Copy. then you can do whatever you want to it without blowing up the live copy

[hollow rune]

@weary perch Thank you for updating so much

[weary perch]

❤️

thanks to robert for giving the testers a workout 😄

things get fixed faster than we can test 😄

[hollow rune]

I am looking forward to my full playthrough of the Goemon games. I plan to just take notes in a Google sheet

But until then

[drowsy lantern]

One game playable by Christmas.

[lilac scroll]

We were misled

[weary perch]

outside of TLB, there's a few playable games with issues that majorly interfere with playing/enjoying the game. there are surely a few others i'm missing

• Rainbow Six (no text)
• Bio FREAKS (no text/2D elements)
• Top Gear Rally (illegible text, texture issues)
• Batman Beyond (runs at 2x speed)
• Rugrats in Paris (randomly crashes)
• Vigilante 8: 2nd Offense (missing 2D elements)
• Flying Dragon (audio crackling, missing 2D elements)
• Battlezone: Rise of the Black Dogs (persistent audio crackling)
• WCW Nitro (crashes, missing elements)
• WWF Wrestlemania 2000 (missing screens, no menu text)

[hollow rune]

I mean, the black box around Dr. Mario really makes the game difficult for me to enjoy 🐼 😜

[weary perch]

World Driver Championship is another one, though i kind of enjoy it in its extremely surreal form currently 😄 😄 😄

i rolled credits on it even with all the bonkers issues it has currently

[fair stump]

THPS main menu text is just invisible so it would be tough for a normal person to play

[daring meteor]

Robotron 64 has no text
There's that Snow wave race that crashes too

[weary perch]

ah yeah that's true in THPS2 as well, isn't it?

[zenith orchid]

😂 I still play Dr. Mario quite regularly. it wakes up my brain efficiently

[weary perch]

Polaris is currently marked as Boots for that reason, that's why i didn't include it

[hollow rune]

I hate testing that game. It is so off putting

[hollow rune]

My dad uses it to fall asleep after a stressfule day. NES version prefered.

[zenith orchid]

NES version is definitely more nostalgic, but yeah I haven't exhausted the novelty of the N64 version yet.

I can see it as also being a relaxing game if you play it in a slow setting

[hollow rune]

I think it is enough for him to just match colors for a little bit before bed.

I want to try to play through the story mode on 64

[zenith orchid]

Ah, I just play versus mode against the computer. it's a hell of a brain challenge if you keep turning up the difficulty as you get better at it

[native mesa]

Darunia is goat

[zenith orchid]

I also really like some of the music that's isn't available in the NES version

[uncut gyro]

Can we translate that save into a format we can load onto N64 core?

This kind of found media is always exciting to me, like when they found Andy Warhol’s Amiga paint disks and extracted the data

[uncut gyro]

Mia Hamm controls aren’t responsive now that it gets in-game.

[elfin depot]

Just looked that up, never knew, really cool!

[quick arch]

@zinc dew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qspeAhyIOAM

[uncut gyro]

@wanton sun does turning off dither and de-dither save any cycles/memory bandwidth?

[weary beacon]

no

[compact depot]

Everything is free! 🙃

[wanton sun]

turning off AA+dedither+divot could save memory bandwidth, but it's currently not implemented to do that

it's not much anyway unless you play interlaced games or strongly scaled ones

[vast delta]

just got an NSO N64 controller and I remember there was a modified zImage file to use it properly... Does anyone know if we still need it?

I believe it still is, according to Vampier's website

[wanton sun]

He was recently in germany and he would not ask such silly questions 😛

[weary palm]

He would just do a PR.

[wanton sun]

and like in real world, his ideas would be denied

[dusty tusk]

🥲 oof, a simple no would suffice

[drowsy lantern]

Can we also get super comfy wool mittens?

[fair stump]

[dusty tusk]

Also just remembered the menu wraps, so it's actually a non issue

[daring meteor]

lmao

[weary palm]

I was actually the one that added menu wraps

[topaz otter]

But Robby wasn't mentioned in masters of doom at all

[daring meteor]

If anything, considering the 9000 controller options, maybe worth putting them in a menu
But on the otherside they're probably really frequent

[topaz otter]

or all of his excerpts were removed from the book for being too awesome

[native mesa]

Bernie has to have one foot in the grave these days

[weary beacon]

The only ones who don't have both in the grave.

[weary palm]

Haha ok

Why can't we all be friends

[wanton sun]

ok ok, i will move up one OSD option every next core. In 20 days we start over with the current situation 🙂

[dusty tusk]

Lol, once we get the video sub menu it won't be an issue. I'd probably still leave aspect ratio on the top menus though

[tidal zenith]

what about a randomizer, every build the option is somewhere new

embrace chaos

[daring meteor]

Why just that option

Let every option be random

[native mesa]

Add dummy options for lols imo. Like 'ULTRA mode'

[dusty tusk]

Spent way too long viewing the underwater terrain through this palm tree's fade out effect

[daring meteor]

1c2p mode

Makes Controller 1 and 2 identical

[languid dune]

Speaking of aspect ratio. Is it possible to set that in an alternate MiSTer ini file? Like if I have my main ini file set to 1440p 4:3. And my alternate to 1080p. Can I have the 1080p ini file always have 16:9 set in the core OSD?

[dusty tusk]

What if we had a widescreen folder that autoset it for supported games

[native mesa]

That's some shooting stars shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feA64wXhbjo

[deft tree]

crazy carts rule so hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChToxdRbILg

[dusty tusk]

Honestly the only consistent issue I have now with the core is an overly sensitive dead zone on all my controllers. Other than that, I'm running out of things that look or feel wrong. I think that loading screen corruption bug was also fixed in dk64

[toxic pumice]

is deadzone something that can be configured in mister ini settings?

[dusty tusk]

Not that I've been able to find

Usually its not an issue, I think N64 core just has a really tight dead zone

[nimble needle]

I said it before but the part where the car goes over the cliff edge is like a Monty Python sketch

[viscid gate]

Yes, driver is improved in that image

[candid copper]

this is the best video I've seen all year. thank you

[weary perch]

@uncut gyro i do not see any issue with input in Mia Hamm Soccer. could you describe what you're experiencing in more detail?

[cerulean elk]

27 minutes til you get more F Zero @languid dune

[weary perch]

just played a half of Mia Hamm Soccer, no issues with input whatsoever. still has interlaced mode issues but i didn't see anything like what you described, @uncut gyro

if you are faffing with multiple controllers you may want to use the 'Reset Player assignment' button in the OSD if you ever see input stop registering. my guess for what happened if you only had input issues "in-game" is you were actually using a controller other than P1 which stopped working once you got into the match. just a guess tho

wasn't expecting too much but it turns out it's a really fun soccer game

[zenith orchid]

that sounds like it would be useful for the N64 mouse. so you don't lose access to the buttons missing from the mouse

[daring meteor]

Huh

And to think 2c1p was the end of it

[weary perch]

Kaze has an SM64 patch which enables a 1p2c mode with analog camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85cvMzz8HUI

[hearty oar]

oh neat

[weary perch]

so that makes 5 games now that can use 1p2c i think 😄

[daring meteor]

So that makes 5 games my patch is useful for

[latent galleon]

wait is that a proper free camera?

i'd say kick TLB to the curb for proper mario controls

[solemn marlin]

Someone combine this with the no face patch pls

[weary perch]

i'd imagine it has all the same limitations as the original camera except you can now move it smoothly and in less than 45 degrees at a time

this is a very similar patch but not by Kaze https://github.com/vrmiguel/sm64-analog-camera

uses the P2 analog stick just like Kaze's

[solemn marlin]

Wish I had it

[keen hazel]

Hm, I didn't remember Duke Nukem 64 being that much letteboxed

[cerulean elk]

Vid is loose

[weary perch]

did someone here share a tool that could remove the mario face demo from SM64 romhacks at one point? i thought i had seen one, but if that's right i don't know who shared it

[weary beacon]

yes

[weary perch]

do you have it or know who shared it?

[weary perch]

wow, thank you!

just want to try out these analog camera patches and see how they work with the core

[weary beacon]

np, he had a linux version too if you need it.

[empty cliff]

question

I want my game progress to save

what kind of save type should I use

or is that just for cpaks

[mossy needle]

As long as auto detect is on, it should save correctly unless you're dealing with cpaks

Just make sue when you go to the menu in the middle of a game, is says "saving" initially

[empty cliff]

so set save type to None?

[latent galleon]

stay out of there

[mossy needle]

No don't mess with that

[empty cliff]

it was already on none before

[mossy needle]

It does everything automatically

[empty cliff]

well, it may do it auto but save type is set to none when I look here

which sounds worrying

[daring meteor]

This is mario party 2 right?

[mossy needle]

I dont have my set up on hand but if your database is up to date, you shouldn't have to mess with it

[empty cliff]

yeah

my database is up to date but who knows if it actually has my specific rom, I have others where it didn't recognise mine

I didn't see if complained about this one

[daring meteor]

It should be eeprom4

I dunno why it was set to none

[empty cliff]

hrmmm

is there anything else I need to set

[latent galleon]

do those even do anything?

when set to auto?

[empty cliff]

if I click save backup RAM will that do it

[daring meteor]

Rumble pak but I think that doesn't do anything

[empty cliff]

when I click save backup ram and load backup ram nothing happens so that's fun

although, dunno if that is actually meant to work like save states or what

okay let's see if it saved

[latent galleon]

it is not

[empty cliff]

okay yeah nothing saves

saved*

[latent galleon]

if it's not in the database it might still run without complaint if the CIC is right i think

[empty cliff]

oh, I don't know what cic is

[latent galleon]

i'm not sure if that menu is temporary or what

well google could help, but it's in your screenshot there

it's a showstopper if it is set wrong

it's part of the system protection

[empty cliff]

is it simply supposed to be like this

[daring meteor]

No

You named it wrong

[empty cliff]

oh is it just database

ah, N64-database.txt?

[elfin relic]

https://vampier.net/N64/

You can download the file DataBase_20231010170206.txt. Download with right-click and select "Save As" N64-database.txt (CAUTION - Case Senstive).
"N64-database.txt"

[empty cliff]

okay yeah I completely missed that last chunk, extremely dumb of me

[elfin relic]

or just add the downloader line from the faq to your downloader ini and let update_all handle it

[empty cliff]

yeah I have it added to update all, I'm just in a hotel atm and don't wanna risk getting kicked, spotty wifi no ethernet

[latent galleon]

kicked?

[empty cliff]

kicked off the network

I am dropping like 10 times a day here

[latent galleon]

update_all is pretty resilient, lots of error checks

shouldn't leave you in a bad place

[empty cliff]

fair enough

[latent galleon]

our first updater...whoo

excitement every time

[empty cliff]

hahaha

I can imagine

I port indie games for a living so.. I have seen it all

today I had a fun one, game starts running at 15fps when you zoom out, I profile it, "what is this shitty laggy water script", I open it, read it

it's directly ripped from a tutorial I got paid to write 8 years ago

[raw oriole]

And now you’re getting paid to fix it. Double dipping, if anything 👌

[viscid quiver]

That would be cool. Or take the artwork and try to find the person lol

We need lessons homie! Lol

[solemn marlin]

How do you use mariodefacer, just drag the rom to it? Start in cmd? *nvm got it to work

Found no faces 🤔

Someone make it work, you can't patch out the face in a free camera rom and you can't put in free camera in a faceless rom, kind of what I expected tbh

[empty cliff]

well technically I get paid for the whole port, so if I'd written it right the first time I would have less work to do today haha

everything is working for me now, playing amped up, working, saving, hooray

[eternal ravine]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/929666248388473?mibextid=F9SUZr

[rose elbow]

omg just get a mister!

[raw oriole]

Why does it have four NES and SNES pads, I wonder.

Neat toy though

[ember linden]

that video is hilarious to me because they have stuff like the OSSC and SCART connections, then they run Mario Kart 64 stretched to widescreen

[prisma ivy]

What is this 1p2c business I keep seeing

[fair stump]

2pac

[empty cliff]

1p2c sh4kur

[solemn marlin]

The future of gaming

[rose elbow]

i was just looking up games that support NES Four Score.. i think it's similar to this; Smash TV (two players with two controllers each)

but 1 player with 2 controllers

[solemn marlin]

It maps player 2 analog stick so you have two sticks, you can play first person shooters like modern shooters

[prisma ivy]

Oh I see

[rose elbow]

just like Smash TV, yes

[prisma ivy]

1 player, 2 controllers. I see it now haha

[solemn marlin]

Mostly works for goldeneye and perfect dark, and this free camera patch for mario 64 would go well with it

[empty cliff]

apart from RTC is animal forest working properly yet?

thinking of playing with my wife

[solemn marlin]

Also insane people can put in a code in star wars pod racer to control each engine with a separate stick

[weary perch]

animal forest works with some minor issues, but it really needs RTC for any serious playtime i think

[empty cliff]

you could theoretically just put in the time at the start of every play though right?

I guess the day wouldn't advance

[weary perch]

i guess so, i'm not sure

it doesn't sound great that way

[empty cliff]

but gc animal crossing is the kind of thing I play for like.. 10 minutes a day anyway it's not like I'm watching it turn to night in real time

[prisma ivy]

Also insane that you can take a picture with the Gameboy camera, import it into Mario Paint 64 using the transfer pak, then export that to Sim City 64 and view that picture in game. And its only one custom picture allowed in the game at a time

[empty cliff]

I wouldn't be surprised as well if it has its own timer counting up the real time since startup as a substitute for when the cartridge battery dies

[solemn marlin]

You know someone spent a month's salary to make it happen, just to see a pedestrian in sim city with that person's dick for a head

[fierce girder]

1p2c is cool and all but you know you can hold the controller left handed and get just about the same result? Control scheme 1.2 Solitaire with the look inverted in Goldeneye is basically the same as modern control schemes, just gotta get used to moving with a d-pad instead.

[solemn marlin]

In full gameboy glory, it would've been worth it in perfect dark tbh

[prisma ivy]

Hahahaha yesssss

Its too bad there wasn't more tomfoolery to be had with the N64 mouse, microphone, and transfer pak

[solemn marlin]

I do a pseudo version of it for all the other fps games, mapping d-pad/c buttons to left stick but it really isn't as good

Double the analog is really responsive

[fierce girder]

Holding and playing a game for an extended time with 2 controllers is not fun or ideal. I’ve done it with Goldeneye and Ep 1 Racer and Robotron etc….

I’ll take a left handed grip any day over that

[rose elbow]

isnt gc animal crossing the same game as n64 ac ?

[fierce girder]

N64 animal forest is mostly the same, it doesn’t have the NES emulator

[solemn marlin]

Yea but the setting in the core maps player 2's stick to your controller, in this instance you're using one controller

[fierce girder]

There are other differences of course

[fierce girder]

That is definitely a better solution

[prisma ivy]

Dual N64 mice. Then you'd have four buttons 😂

[fierce girder]

The only way to Doom 64!

[solemn marlin]

Lol you thought I was sitting here with two controllers telling people how it is the superior way to game, the original idea still confuses me

[rose elbow]

ooo there are some differences. mostly the same game aha, my bad

[prisma ivy]

I need to give that game a try

[fierce girder]

N64 Animal Forest and Pokémon Stadium 2 are the only games incompatible with my lowly Everdrive64 2.5(X5), I suppose it would be neat to play them properly but eh, for how long?

I can play animal forest but the time has to be set on every boot and there’s no real progression made when the game is “offline”

[prisma ivy]

Ah yeah you'd want to play it the right way

[zealous hull]

Plus the translation patch is pretty unstable and buggy.

[fierce girder]

Yeah it’s another novelty that’s neat to see running but not really worth playing seriously

[weary beacon]

pokemon stadium 2 is great fun with friends.

[weary perch]

@solemn marlin looks like that 1p2c stuff is already included in the FazanaJ UltraSM64 patch

https://github.com/FazanaJ/puppycam

[solemn marlin]

It works with the core, no face?

[weary perch]

i'm about to test

i'm not sure i understand how to get 1p2c working, but the romhack works on the core once no-faced and has analog camera on P2's analog stick

i just don't know how exactly i get that P2 analog stick mapped to my right stick 😅

i can turn on P1->P2 under dual controller but i don't know how to actually get it working lol

[empty cliff]

btw the answer is

yes animal forest continues to count time in real time

takes like 7 seconds on boot to set the clock

and it is running perfectly, really wonderful game

I also like that there's some features I never saw in the gc version, maybe just because they didn't escape localisation

[weary perch]

issues seen on last test were crests of waterfalls have incorrect colors, cursor in menu is black/silhouetted, some minor polygon flicker

[empty cliff]

yeah crests of waterfalls are yellow

and yeah seen some flicker when entering the shop

[weary perch]

not quite perfect but playable

[empty cliff]

oh yeah and the hand too. haha. interesting

[weary perch]

you're on the 1016 build?

good to know those issues are still present in the current build

[empty cliff]

I rolled a really good village

I think I'm on yesterday's build

[solemn marlin]

Have you enabled p2 controller as well as 1p2c?

[weary perch]

yes

[empty cliff]

231016

[weary perch]

should i be mapping the right stick to anything? does dual controller automatically map P2 analog to P1 right stick?

i left it unmapped as it was previously mapped to c buttons

[solemn marlin]

You have pd right, just to confirm that it's working for something?

[weary perch]

i'll give that a try

ah, OK, super easy. so maybe the analog camera on P2 isn't working in UltraSM64. PD worked immediately, no issues

it might be an option you need to enable somewhere when patching? not sure. UltraSM64 should include puppycam2 which should include analog camera on P2

[empty cliff]

wait how did animal forest even let you visit each other's villages? the controller pak???

[weary perch]

was curious about that myself heh

[empty cliff]

it used an entire gc memory card like 4mb

[weary perch]

holy mackerel PD feels incredible with dual analog

[empty cliff]

cpak is 256kb

[dusty tusk]

Interesting graphics bug in puyo puyo yoon party

[uneven gorge]

Does Nintendo 64 Core have Dual SDRAM support?

[solemn marlin]

I've been telling people but they think I'm crazy, want it for m64 but too dumb to navigate github decomps

[empty cliff]

ahh I believe how it works is

[weary perch]

just walkin' around carrington institute all smooth. feels great

[empty cliff]

instead of bringing the memory card and bringing the village over in slot 2

you load your character onto your cpak

then go to your friend's house and load the cpak

and you can run around their village with your character

it just saves your inventory

[weary perch]

haha seems obvious in retrospect... didn't realize they switched it up for GC

[dusty tusk]

I always thought the marketing for animal crossing was really misleading. It had zero multiplayer

[solemn marlin]

Yea it's great, it really begs you to turn off auto aim at that point tho

[fierce girder]

The real test is if it continues to count time while you’re not playing. When you have to set the time on every boot, there’s no progression calculated at the start

[empty cliff]

what do you mean no progression

it won't count time when you aren't playing, that would require rtc

but you will still get progression

[dusty tusk]

Knowing Nintendo, I'm surprised they didn't piggy back off of Pokemon Crystal though the transfer pack to have a real time clock

[empty cliff]

it's not like the cartridge is alive when you don't have it plugged in

it just checks the boot time against the last saved time

it doesn't matter if you set it manually

[fierce girder]

So you still get letters and things reset under ground and whatnot? That’s good at least

[dusty tusk]

Looks alive to me

[empty cliff]

resetti works when you turn off the game without saving, which presumably works by immediately saving a "started a session" bool when you launch a setting and then sets a "ended a session" when you end your day

[fierce girder]

I thought it needed the RTC to calculate what happened while you were away

[empty cliff]

so if your game has the start and not the end, it knows you reset, no clock required

no it will just do current date - save date and work out how long has passed

[quaint pewter]

Current time you set - time it was when you saved = progression to calculate before you start playing.

[fierce girder]

That works I suppose, I still wouldn’t want to keep a town going forever that way

[dusty tusk]

I think the rtc just acts like it does in the other games. It saves where you were and then does calculations at boot based on how much time has elapsed

[empty cliff]

sure but for now it's a <10 second inconvenience across an hour or two play session

[dusty tusk]

If you're willing to set your clock each time, it should work just like the rtc

[empty cliff]

better than not playing at all

[quaint pewter]

That's how they all work. They make up some history before you load in, like Dwarf Fortress but on a micro scale.

[dusty tusk]

It's the reason it takes so long to start the game. The villager chat is merely a distraction

[solemn marlin]

Can't believe the big n lied to us, I thought they lived in there

[delicate hearth]

2 quick questions:

1. I grabbed the latest unstable MiSTer build to allow me to manually adjust the stick range of my controller, but where is the menu option for this in the MiSTer?
2. Where do I put the zImage file to allow me to pair an NSO controller?

[empty cliff]

haha

[dusty tusk]

You can manually adjust stick ranges now?

[empty cliff]

imagine if you needed to charge your animal forest cartridge to keep the simulation alive when it's unplugged

[weary perch]

stick range clamping/scaling is automatic

no manual options for that

it's a very good default, though

[delicate hearth]

It is? I'm using an 8BitDo modkit controller and it's waaaay too sensitive compared to a real controller

So I want to pair my NSO pad instead

[fierce girder]

I just thought you needed the RTC for it to keep working properly, i was under the mistaken impression that manually setting the time every boot didn’t cause any progression

[solemn marlin]

The cartridge should come with a speaker so you could hear them calling for help when battery runs low

[empty cliff]

nah it's just a very minor inconvenience

[fierce girder]

I still don’t think it’s worth playing through all the way, but to each their own

[weary perch]

if you have the correct unstable MiSTer, yes, it's automatic. you have to move your stick a bit to get the extreme values but once that's set you're good

so basically give the stick a good tilt in each direction to set scaling

[delicate hearth]

Does anyone know where to put the zImage file, then?

[empty cliff]

I haven't done the reboot yet so I dunno if it keeps the previous date as a suggestion, that would be nice

[quaint pewter]

They are in a frightening, liminal space between states of being! Not quite dead, not quite alive! It's similar to a constant state of sleep paralysis

[empty cliff]

like the year and month would be a freebie

[fierce girder]

How far does the year setting go in Animal Forest, does it support dates in the 2020s?

[delicate hearth]

oh, I think it's in the /Linux directory

[empty cliff]

honestly setting the time when I want it too might be more convenient because I am more of a night person and it means I can just adjust the timezone so the shops are open

yeah it does

I'm on 2023 atm

I think it supports up to 99

or maybe higher, I didn't check