Nintendo 64

[daring meteor]

lmao

[wanton sun]

don't get me wrong, i'm really thankful for the effort you did with testing all this and figuring it out, but i don't think i want to take that ressource hit, at least now in the project. If it's done and there is space left, no issue

[quartz frigate]

must say the core progresses nice robert,great job.

[wanton sun]

maybe you can get it working in main?

if it's inside the n64 code, the chances are also much higher it gets accepted

the simple n64 check in input.cpp was already...difficult 😅

[daring meteor]

I will try to get it working in main, for analog sticks only I think, inside the n64 check

The z button isn't a big problem yes?

Just 1 bit muxes

[wanton sun]

thank you. Buttons should be no issue

[chilly ember]

Finished the elite four and beat gary in Pokemon Stadium. Still so much left 😫

Looks like some text issues in the hall of fame part

[wanton sun]

with the crappy rental pokemon, not bad!

[chilly ember]

Twas a pain lol

[lament escarp]

Between 1p2c and transfer pack, which would you choose to implement if you had only resources for one?

[daring meteor]

Alright, 1p2c mostly in main done

Let's see if it works

Alright, works in pd

[zenith orchid]

was the term 1p2c coined here within the last couple days?

[daring meteor]

Nah

[zenith orchid]

I can guess what it means, I just can't imagine playing that way

[daring meteor]

I mean, technically you can with the option I'm making

Well, practically made now

[iron dove]

I vote that as the option name

[daring meteor]

Two fisted

[iron dove]

bit of the ol standard

[daring meteor]

New PRs sent :3

[iron dove]

geldeneye, PD, robotron. Any others use it?

[daring meteor]

Pod Racing

(If you want, you can take the builds but they should be functionally identical to the combo posted earlier this morning)

[junior yarrow]

I'll assume Rakugakids is also a victim of TLB?

The game crashes before a match can start in any case

[wanton sun]

thank you. However, could you move it to n64 support code instead? Otherwise i have to do it 🙈

just asked sorg about it

[daring meteor]

Alright, will do

Someone else mentioned making the joystick correction arrays - will do that too while at it

[daring meteor]

Rakugakids crashes on PJ64 after "Let's get Ready to Rumble" without TLB, so if that's what happens, yes

[wanton sun]

it seems reading the bits in main will cause slowdown...

i didn't know this

[hearty oar]

I wonder if the result can be cached on settings change instead of being queried every time?

[wanton sun]

yes, probably needs to be cached on reset/game load

or opening osd

osd open should be known to main

[daring meteor]

Opening OSD is best

[wanton sun]

sorry for the extra trouble

[hot spoke]

I'm a bit late following up, but I posted recently about noting some issues with a difference in appearance in output when looking at the core via HDMI capture and analog out. I captured two screenshots via OBS with capture card and two shots directly from my monitor by way of RetroTink 5x through component video coming out of the mister analog I/O. Any idea why the HDMI version looks so much nicer than the analog version? In all photos, the default core options are enabled. I should also mention the RetroTink's settings were set to "Default" for these images. I didn't change anything.

[agile flicker]

hello friends

Killer Instinct still don't working ?

[daring meteor]

Why would reading the bits cause slowdown?
Reading the code, It seems to cache them in one way or another

Just calls a parser and accesses an array

[wanton sun]

yes, it seems that way. still needs to parse the string multiple times each round

[zinc dawn]

Does this core automatically apply settings? Ie CIC chip,

[wanton sun]

all in system settings should be apllied automatically if you have the n64database

[zinc dawn]

Right I need to get the n64 database!

[runic cliff]

Hello All, impossible for me to have the Y axis with my N64 NSO controller (USB/BT)

[wanton sun]

did you "define joystick buttons" after starting mister?

[zinc dawn]

I did try using my old n64 mayflash pc adapter but MiSter didn't even recognise it

[runic cliff]

My gamepad works very well on switch or on PC but not with Mister, if i try my gpadavnce with original controller over usb, no problem at all but the NSO gamepad won't work... 😦

[daring meteor]

Updating on user_io_osd_is_visible is ok?

[wanton sun]

to use that parser less often, maybe it can still be cached there? I know that lemonici and markun tried hard to keep the cost of that whole function below 200ns and the parser will easily take 10-100 times as long

[runic cliff]

Yes, i did

[lament escarp]

The term always reminds me of 2girls1cup and such. 😋

[mild ether]

Try re defining the joystick in the main menu.

[daring meteor]

I can cache it when menu is visible and only call it when it is

Is that fine enough?

[lament escarp]

Did you follow the setup till it closes by itself or did you finish prematurely?

[wanton sun]

i can't answer that finally, sorg has to approve it. But it should be?

[daring meteor]

Alright

[wanton sun]

i'm not super familiar with mister main code i have to say

[daring meteor]

So at worst there will be slowdown when menu is visable

[wanton sun]

Always had help with code in main from markun, zakk, sorg and others

[mild ether]

Sometimes if you don't hit the tilt down straight it won't register that axis correctly.

[wanton sun]

also with the old linux i think it was super sensitive to gyro or so? so you could skip one step if you didn't pay attention

[chilly pivot]

Can anybody please record the intro of WCW vs NWO Revenge? There is no emulator that properly syncs video and audio. Thank you very much. 😊👍

[runic cliff]

Thanks, i'm an idiot, closed prematurely without the analog stick configuration... 😉 It's working now 😉

[hot spoke]

Sorry to be a nuisance, but nobody has noticed any weird issues with this core over analog video?

[lament escarp]

You are very welcome. 🙂

[wanton sun]

analog may work, but far from final

[hot spoke]

Thanks so much. That's all I need to know! I'll be patient.

[vapid moat]

Analog's been decent for me so far

(Using CRT via RGB SCART)

[hot spoke]

It's a different story with mine via component. #1096015979055697940 message

[daring meteor]

Its nice to test when the compile takes 5 seconds and not 12 minutes

[hearty oar]

Definitely a perk of c++ only changes…

[solemn marlin]

6 control schemes?

[zinc dawn]

I'm very much looking forward to when I can play Goldeneye. I keep the n64 around for that reason only

[daring meteor]

Normal
Swap stick
P1+P2
P1+P3
P1+P2 swap
P1+P3 swap

[kind solar]

just tried that out with a switch pro controller and perfect dark

fun

couldn't get aim to map right but i guess that isn't done yet

[daring meteor]

You need main

[kind solar]

i think i did that

the second z button seems to be mapped to the right direction on the stick

[daring meteor]

Yeah, its the only button that's not used by all games

[hollow rune]

From OG hardware or MiSTer?

[daring meteor]

(Except for robotron, but robotron doesn't use the Z button)

[chilly pivot]

Mister, please 🙏

[hollow rune]

Ok, I will try to do that. What resolution you need?

[zinc dawn]

If a particular controller adapter won't work in mister Is there anything I can do,?

[chilly pivot]

that doesn't matter, I just like to listen if the video and sound is synch

[hollow rune]

Do you have a drop box?

[solemn marlin]

Sorry if I'm being obtuse but I thought this was just a switch? How do you go from P1+P2 to P1+P2 swap if the game calls for it?

[daring meteor]

You enable the joystick swap function

[chilly pivot]

Yes, I send my mail adress as DM

[solemn marlin]

Ohh so there's two options?

[daring meteor]

Yes

There's option for P1->P2 (or P1->P3)

And there's stick swap

[solemn marlin]

Clever, yea that seems flexible, hope it goes into the main so it's just there after updates

[daring meteor]

Right now I'm trying to figure if there's an easy way to call the update function

Because if the osd is visable than the core recieves no input, and "My" path is on the input

[hearty oar]

you can probably just "cheat" and cache the value in one place and then access it via an extern in the input code where you need it

[daring meteor]

I am caching

The problem is when

[hearty oar]

it looks like a fair bit of that sort of thing is happening in HandleUI() in menu.cpp

[daring meteor]

Yeah, and there's also switch_input

But the problem with that is - Do you really want to add n64 specific code to that?

Worst case I put it in n64 rom tx

But there has to be something better

[hearty oar]

that wouldn't catch setting change right? ie. you load the rom, open the menu and then change the setting

[daring meteor]

Yeah, it wouldn't, you would want to load the rom again

[solemn marlin]

So now I have a main file which improves stick ranges and this new one for stick swap, any way to combine or just enjoy them separately?

[daring meteor]

Stick swap improves ranges

[solemn marlin]

Oh sweet

[daring meteor]

I'll add a commit and ask sorg

[daring meteor]

Sorg just redirected me again to Robert haha

[lament escarp]

You can play zelda on the n64 core and ping pong on the n64 discord. Lucky you. 😄

[wanton sun]

send you a message

[quaint pewter]

That random white line looks a bit odd.

[gritty river]

Regarding stick transformation, wouldn't it be possible to generalize the option and add it to the ini?

[daring meteor]

Could somone test if this has more latency compared to current unstable mister?

I tried to always update but make it as fast as possible

Not sure if fetching all 3 bits at once without scanf, then doing & is fastest but one can hope

[daring meteor]

Stick transformation as I'm doing, you mean, or something else?

[compact depot]

Core is accurate! 😍

[short trellis]

Pilotwings feels pretty spot-on now right?! ☺️

[lament escarp]

Lots of games do!

[empty cliff]

where does the database file go?

the .txt

oh just in /N64?

[oblique remnant]

Hybrid Heaven is set to "completable". Just finished it in Normal and Low Res mode. Who wants to play in hi-res with 15fps anyway 😄 Its not perfect yet but the only "bug" I saw are the explosions of the robot that have missing transparency effects. the game also still shows the 000800 Error

[fair stump]

Is that game worth playing? Everything I've seen of it looks pretty funny

[gritty river]

You're working in the nanosecond ranges with these kinds of optimization

It won't do much on its own

The input loop is already pretty tight

[iron dove]

/games/N64/
the same as the boot.rom, boot1.rom and your game files

[oblique remnant]

Well it depends I had nostalgia for it 🙂 the fights get very repetitive near the end so it's hard to recommend. But I liked the dark setting I still give it a 8/10

[gritty river]

Fastest is skipping scanf entirely if you can

But it's already made to be fast

[daring meteor]

I skipped scanf

Originally it was called 3 times

If its alright to check for io all the time than I can commit

[gritty river]

I'd be happy to review it, but it's up to Sorg in the end

Show me your moves

[daring meteor]

(The stick swap part)

wait no

This file

[solemn marlin]

You think every fps will be playable with dual sticks like this?

[daring meteor]

Only ge and pd support true dual stick

[solemn marlin]

Yea that's true but there's a least a version that can be done in games like doom where you can remap in game, the best possible solution without hacking the game imo

[native mesa]

Turok too but it requires a stick swap

[solemn marlin]

Turok can be played?

[native mesa]

Yeah

[solemn marlin]

Gonna go through them one by one, it's max 20 or something

[silent marten]

Only the first Turok is playable right now, the rest of them require TLB which is not in yet

[wind helm]

does Bomberman 64 require TLB, too ?

[silent marten]

I believe so

[wind helm]

thats why it's not booting

too bad

I love it

[solemn marlin]

I love how so many heavy hitters arbitrarily agreed on using TLB, it couldn't be some midway games

[silent marten]

We are thinking TLB will be in by Xmas

[wind helm]

yes even without TLB we are blessed with what we already have

[silent marten]

Ohhh for sure

[daring meteor]

Isn't Turok just dpad?

[solemn marlin]

Very true, never played pilotwings and it's so good

[silent marten]

C buttons move and Analog look

[lament escarp]

You can swap it to move with dpad and look with stick.

[silent marten]

Ohh cool

[gritty river]

looks fine to me

[lament escarp]

If you combine it with stick/dpad swap in the osd you can really suffer. 😄

[silent marten]

Walk forward and look up on 1 button xD

[daring meteor]

Right, so I'll commit it (and remove the uneeded caching)

[lament escarp]

To be fair that was me when I played with modern fps controls for the first time. Of course back then we didn't know those would be modern fps controls and thought they're some bullshit.

[daring meteor]

(Fake caching)

[gritty river]

what caching is that?

[daring meteor]

I wanted to cache it to make the latency better, but it didn't seem simple

[wanton sun]

thank you very much. Wanted to verify the second framebuffer on the bottom is also on real hardware and just hidden usually on a CRT

[daring meteor]

Very fun to see those checks all showing accuracy

[wanton sun]

i researched this 1 hour today just to find that i cannot see a mistake, so hardware check was really great

i should just buy a ultrahdmi modded ntsc n64

but it's not easy, there is currently only one on ebay for 850€

[hollow rune]

I can also check 9n OG hardware with what games I have

[wanton sun]

there are cheaper hdmi mods, you can get consoles around 350€ with them. E.g. "Digital 64HD HDMI Mod by Gamebox Systems"

are they ok?

i don't want to play anything on them, just run test

need to buy a ntsc console for timing tests anyway, so having hdmi would be great plus

as long as it can do pixel perfect that doesn't matter for me. It will never be connected to anything else than a capture card

[daring meteor]

"480p60 (720×480 progressive)"

[solemn marlin]

Yea turok works fine, tho it doesn't have an invert axis option so you must remap up and down for that

I have to do that every time I want to play turok right?

[daring meteor]

Right now at least

[solemn marlin]

Just checking, it's weird, I just have different preferences with a modern controller, I like holding left trigger for z jumps with mario but you clearly need right trigger to shoot the gun in fps games

[vapid hawk]

the best hdmi mod right now for n64 is N64Digital

or GEM, which is basically the same thing

https://www.pixelfx.co/product-page/retro-gem-universal-hdmi-upscaler-kit

[silent marten]

You can make an alternate configuration, just skip over everything except Z and select the other trigger 🙂

[solemn marlin]

The alternate configuration, is that the one that loads automatically for the specific game?

[silent marten]

Nah it will be permanent, so left and right trigger will both be Z

[solemn marlin]

I see

[river shale]

I tried patching dinosaur planet with the latest 10_7_2023 cosmetic text xdelta file, but it fails to launch with error E0000005. Has anyone gotten the latest patch working? Maybe I'm dumb and just did something wrong...

[solemn marlin]

I don't think there's a universal solution for me tho, like with the inverted stick for turok, sometimes using the left trigger as a left shoulder button for crosshair aiming, then having it as a z jump for mario, it's a bit of a mess

[prisma ivy]

Is there an N64 mouse

[marble cargo]

Yes actually.

https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Nintendo_64_Mouse

[prisma ivy]

Ahhh

[solemn marlin]

The og

[prisma ivy]

My guess is that there are only certain games programmed to use the mouse

You couldn't use the mouse for Turok, Goldeneye, etc

I could normally look it up myself but I'm on limited data

[solemn marlin]

Starcraft would be the obvious choice but I doubt it

[silent marten]

Starcraft does support the 64 mouse and maybe command and conquer

[prisma ivy]

Whoa cool!

So its possible that some day we could use a USB mouse on this core? As much as an N64 mouse would be rad, I have enough controllers already 😂

[solemn marlin]

Huh thought it was only for that mario artist stuff.. you can play goldeneye and pd using a mouse on pc

It kind of ruins those games

[prisma ivy]

Makes it too easy you mean?

[silent marten]

If there is enough space after every other feature is in then sure I think Robert could add a mouse option

[solemn marlin]

Yea, way too easy

[prisma ivy]

Or it just feels so very weird

[solemn marlin]

Enemies can barely react but it feels pretty good, power fantasy sim

[prisma ivy]

I've never played Starcraft or C&C on N64. Are they worth playing if you played the PC versions?

[silent marten]

OK so as someone that only plays RTS on PC but also loves testing cores, playing them with a controller feels very wrong

But if they add mouse support to this core it will be the best way to play starcraft on MiSTer

[solemn marlin]

Lol I can't even imagine not having a keyboard for it, sounds so wrong

[zinc dawn]

Banjo Kazooie - How to skip intro after choosing new game?

[silent marten]

I don't think you can

[silent marten]

I do know what you mean

[zinc dawn]

Oh ok! Cheers

Been years since I played it

[wanton sun]

how do you use the other buttons then? they are required to play the game

[prisma ivy]

Someday someone might make a skip intro patch

[zinc dawn]

But super amazing seeing this on my 4k telly

[toxic pumice]

Tribute64 arrived just now. Not ergonomically brilliant but very happy nonetheless, feels really good to use.

[prisma ivy]

Oh so its just one input at a time. Hmm hmm. Tricky

[silent marten]

I am not sure... maybe uses a different controller port for mouse and then other buttons on controller in port 1?

[solemn marlin]

What if we took a game that needs 300 actions per minute to be played effectively and condensed it into something that can be played with a controller 🤔

[silent marten]

If and when it happens you can be sure I will work it all out for you Robert

[prisma ivy]

Someone with an N64 mouse should try the mouse/controller combo and see if it works. For science.

[vapid hawk]

btw i think portal64 supports 1p2c mode

it also supports mouse

[prisma ivy]

Portal 64?

[solemn marlin]

I want to try that on mister

[vapid hawk]

yeah

[silent marten]

If someone has an everdrive and a 64 mouse

[vapid hawk]

https://github.com/lambertjamesd/portal64

[wanton sun]

i don't think starcraft allows to use mouse + controller in different slots

[drowsy lantern]

You can’t. However you can skip most dialog in the game by pressing L + R + B. It will close most dialog boxes. (That’s L, not Z)

[silent marten]

Hmmm then grouping will be hard

But selecting and moving units will work with mouse only

[prisma ivy]

The solution is for some mad lad to make an N64 mouse with a whole whack of additional buttons on it 😂

[vapid hawk]

we could fake that, presumably ?

[prisma ivy]

Such a demand for it right

[vapid hawk]

that whole thing is weird in starcraft, its almost like its half finished and they just left it in

[prisma ivy]

True. The internet is full of amazing people with incredible talents

*gestures to all core developers

[prisma ivy]

I feel like there was another game on a different system like this where the implementation was half done. Hmm can't put my finger on it now

Mouse implementation I mean

I guess its either gonna be SNES or MD

That's for another channel

[silent marten]

Yeah 🙂

[solemn marlin]

I tried to build but I have an old shitty laptop and never used linux, that docker stuff just wouldn't start

[prisma ivy]

this question is just for fun, not a demand, but is 64DD possible on the MiSTer?

[vapid hawk]

they release an IPS patch too

you just have to apply it to a specific file from a portal install to generate the rom

[silent marten]

I would assume that this would be another if there is space

[prisma ivy]

Ahh

[vapid hawk]

there isn't much to a 64DD really, just a clock and different cartridge handling, so it might not be too bad

[toxic pumice]

64DD was running through my mind as well solely for the f-zero expansion

[solemn marlin]

Portal install, as in portal the original valve game??

[toxic pumice]

This core has made me unreasonably happy though

[vapid hawk]

yeah

[prisma ivy]

Whoa an F-zero expansion using 64DD? I love this kind of stuff

[toxic pumice]

I've always had N64 as being this really awkward thing to emulate properly and now I'm playing it on an actual N64 pad to this degree of performance, I'm so happy lol

[solemn marlin]

What, how does that even make sense, what could possibly be used from the real portal in there?

[vapid hawk]

perfect dark is really, really stable now lol i've been running it for over a day

[toxic pumice]

Still with the Carrington institute bug?

[vapid hawk]

it doesn't really, this is kind of like their way of forcing you to have the original portal to play it, they do also use some of the sound assets tho

[prisma ivy]

I too have thought the N64 was just awful for emulating but here we are with this amazing core 🤩

[wanton sun]

is it worth it? found one offer now with 600€ for it instead of 330€ for the gamebox mod, both already modded. Seems high when the module is available and relativly cheap, but i cannot solder that myself

[vapid hawk]

i've never heard of the gamebox mod

[wanton sun]

i watched the video from retroRGB about it, it sounds...ok

[vapid hawk]

you could always find a local installer to do it for you

[solemn marlin]

I see, now it makes sense

[zinc dawn]

I have n64 with borti advanced rgb mod jts really good

But doesn't look as good as this

[vapid hawk]

it is an actual digital to digital mod so its probably ok for your purposes?

1080i60 output max is... weird

[wanton sun]

yes, i also think as long as it's not some weird integrated analog to digital, it should be fine

[vapid hawk]

GEM goes up to 1920x1440 or 2560x1440PR, same as mister really

[zinc dawn]

@wanton sun PS2 next, right 😂

[vapid hawk]

gem also supports misters gamma and shadowmask files

but for just your purposes of core development if you just want the video out clean and digital it sounds like the gamebox one would do it

[lament escarp]

I think Robert will make a xbox core next, as gc and ps2 are weaker in hardware. That whay he can just tweak down the xbox core.

[vapid hawk]

easier to start with a 360 core in that case 😛

[lament escarp]

Nah no good games in that

[zinc dawn]

Ahh but PS2 is just a brilliant console.

[modern sleet]

The best HDMI mod for N64 is the MiSTerFPGA core 😉

[zinc dawn]

Ain't it just

[vapid hawk]

ehhh, GEM has a motion adaptive deinterlacer

[zinc dawn]

For the price of the n64 digital or hdmi...just get a de10

[lament escarp]

Agreed, but the de10 won't do that. The ps2 is also extremely easy and cheap to mod.

[zinc dawn]

PS2 HDMi?

[lament escarp]

Harddisk/free mcboot

[vapid hawk]

ps2 hdmi mods just came out (gem again).

[zinc dawn]

I still got my fat ps2 hooked up via componentwith the hdd

[lament escarp]

I just use my retrotink

[kind solar]

Just mapped turok to switch pro using that dual stick core and I don’t think I can go back

The n64 controller is way so sensitive for fps

[zinc dawn]

Was controller y'all reccomend?

As I only have og n64 ones

[vapid hawk]

get an adapter and use your real n64 ones

[lament escarp]

8bitdo modkit if you want to convert a broken/worn one.

[zinc dawn]

I had an adapter but alas it doesn't work with mister

[kind solar]

Switch pro is pretty good

[zinc dawn]

Ooh yes

[kind solar]

Triggers feel nice

[zinc dawn]

I'm just using my PS5 at the mo. Heresy I know

[lament escarp]

You can also just get the hall stick if you want to snac

[vapid hawk]

i like the retrobit tribute 2.4G for like, most n64 games, using a dualsense for shooters now

[kind solar]

Or the nso controller is good

But not for turok

[prisma ivy]

'spensive

[vapid hawk]

the nso is also pretty laggy

even by BT controller standards - and its slower when wired

i still like the nso a lot, thats what i use on my actual n64, but its worth knowing

[prisma ivy]

If you aren't super particular, the Saffun brand 2.4ghz one on Amazon is great. I'm just some guy and it works just fine for me. I can do the creep walk with Mario and it feels right

[lament escarp]

Creep walk sounds like something fun to do on a Friday night. 😄

[prisma ivy]

A creep walk with Mario

[solemn marlin]

Pd plays so good with dual sticks, worth the entire mister for me. The skyscrapers in the background in level 1 aren't affected by the texture filter, is that a tlb patch effect?

[modern sleet]

How does using a Tink5x compare to the digital out of of N64? @wanton sun, I can run a bunch of tests if needed

In terms of seeing the whole frame

[cold pollen]

Here's hoping we can get transfer Pak support 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[modern sleet]

I mean, the active window should be the same E.g. anything outside of the blanking window

[silent marten]

Robert is hoping to get this in bro

[cold pollen]

I know I saw, I'm hoping too lol

[desert crow]

Maybe someone could donate a hdmi modded ntsc n64 to Robert for core work. His core is going to replace alot of consoles anyway 🙂

[silent marten]

Me too, then I can play pokemon red to get some pokemon for stadium

[hasty musk]

Oh you finished it? I can confirm that bug with exploding robots.

At the Moment i battle the to two Monster Fight bevmfore Dr. Bross. I love that game so much. a remake wozld be so nice

[native mesa]

OOT with difficulty adjustments is a lot of fun

actually have to use deku nuts and stuff

[gritty river]

Master Quest may be fun too

[topaz otter]

If I had one I'd send it to him

[gritty river]

I thought region didn't matter to N64 in terms of switching output

I've got a PAL N64 modded to take whatever

[topaz otter]

how does the transfer pack work?

I never had one so I've never seen it

[cold pollen]

Me either but I believe it sticks into the controller and you insert your gameboy games and it copies the pokemon over

[gritty river]

Yeah that's how it works

[topaz otter]

so its just triggers a flag in the N64 game?

[gritty river]

More or less

The game also has an emulator inside

[cold pollen]

right

[gritty river]

I believe that was the case for stadium, but could be the sequel too

[topaz otter]

does it actually transfer any data though, like when you transfer a memory card to another memory card

[gritty river]

It can

Your Pokemon can be transferred back after using them in stadium

[topaz otter]

interesting

so is robert thinking about the actual transfer pack being attached to the mister? Or you just copy your gameboy save to the sd card and it reads it from there

[lament escarp]

Thats how you teach pikachu surf right? To unlock the minigame in yellow.

[gritty river]

I don't know personally

[lament escarp]

I suggested to him to make it read the save from the mister gb core. So you could play red on mister, transfer your team to stadium on mister etc.

[topaz otter]

that would probably work

[gritty river]

I'd reckon snac is unlikely

For the transfer pak

But who knows

[cold pollen]

I didn't quite understand his answer the other day when I mentioned it but I think it sounded like maybe using saves from the gameboy core

[lament escarp]

Cmon a bunch of people just hammered out 1p2c in a couple of days, transfer pack will be done the same way.

[topaz otter]

seems like it shouldn't take up that much space if the core is just checking the gameboy game save file, copying the data to memory, then letting the n64 rom read the data, it edits its own save

[cold pollen]

what is 1p2c

one player 2 credits? lol

[daring meteor]

To be fair 1p2c is like 2 lines of code

[topaz otter]

he's that rapper that died

[daring meteor]

2 controllers

Allows you to play Perfect Dark with Dual analog sticks

[lament escarp]

1 player 2 controllers, apparently some shooters use it so you have 2 sticks. Imagine joycons.

[cold pollen]

OHH right

[topaz otter]

ist just dual analog mode on the N64

[cold pollen]

yep

I know what it is now

thanks

That's badass that it got added

[topaz otter]

I tried playing that way a few times, just couldn't get used to it

[gritty river]

FPGA logic is a bit more involved, a lot is possible but is it worth spending logic elements on it right now?

[topaz otter]

you have to have long fingers to hit the a and b buttons while using the analog stick at the same time with one hand

[daring meteor]

Technically still needing to wait for sorg to merge changes in main but it should be done

[cold pollen]

oh damn that's something you have to do? Would be a lot easier with modern controllers mapped

[daring meteor]

Yes, its pretty comfortable

[topaz otter]

imagine you are holding your n64 controller in the standard position with just your right hand right

[daring meteor]

On a modern controller

[cold pollen]

RIght I understand haha

[topaz otter]

your thumb has to operate the analog stick in goldeneye and the a and b buttons at the same time

[daring meteor]

Pod racing is even worse - It wants you to use R somehow...

[cold pollen]

I wouldn't have thought they'd make you use A and B

[topaz otter]

you need a proctologists thumb

[gritty river]

You usually have two thumbs haha

[cold pollen]

although just the Z button on both controllers would be very limiting

[daring meteor]

Yeah

[cold pollen]

jump and shoot what else do you need 😉

[topaz otter]

james bond doesn't jump

[cold pollen]

see, perfect

[topaz otter]

he does crouch though occasionally

[cold pollen]

Wait I'm pretty sure he jumps in the movies

[topaz otter]

his stuntman does lmao

[gritty river]

special effects

[daring meteor]

Sshhh

[cold pollen]

oh is that an unlockable character?

if Tom Cruise was Bond he'd jump

out of a space shuttle

[topaz otter]

cheating by using oddjob because the auto aim won't lock on to him

cheating by using jaws because the auto aim has to go up and by the time it does the other person has already killed you

[deft tree]

and you could do the lock crouch trick

and get extra tiny

[topaz otter]

yes

oddjob vs jaws in multiplayer is probably the funniest thing that I've ever seen

you know whats really sad

is that in the xbox re-release of goldeneye that they just put out

you can no longer do the trick to get back up in the cieling in the facility bathroom

because they removed the fine aim feature

and you cant peek around corners any more either

[weary beacon]

I talked to someone who said they didn't have a no oddjob rule.

[topaz otter]

thats insane, oddjob with the dual moonraker lasers is a legit threat to humanity

[native mesa]

Is there an oot hack that replaces the bottle model with the mm bottle?

[river shale]

I tried it without the cosmetic text and it is working.

[lament escarp]

The bottle is not the solution!

[river shale]

@wanton sun The Dinosaur planet patch enables 16 mb ram access if available - not sure how difficult it would be to add 16mb ram implementation as an option vs 4 and 8 mb.

[lament escarp]

Is there a mod for dinosaur planet to play as fox?

[little bane]

On gamecube, official Nintendo mod

[wanton sun]

what is the purpose of this? but even then, there must be more to it than the beta of one game to implement it

[wanton sun]

i don't know. In theory should cover everything

[wanton sun]

i just ordered one 🙂

[river shale]

@wanton sun It is to prevent random crashing when the system runs out of ram.

https://dinosaurpla.net/Main/Tech/Mods/dinomod-exploration-testing-debug-tool-xdelta/

See update 2.3 in these patch notes.

If it is a big endeavor - don't worry about it. I wasn't sure if it would be as simple as "changing the max memory allocation offset.

[wanton sun]

@modern sleet if you want to test your setup, try Bomberman Hero PAL title screen. if it flickers at the bottom with 5 lines or so, it shows as much as the digital out

[modern sleet]

I should have know but looks like I'm limited to NTSC even with an everdrive and the tink 5x :/

Mostly because of the YC modulation

[wanton sun]

i see, so 16mbyte because of memory leaks...i rather wait for a fix of the software then, haha 🙂

[oblique remnant]

Nice , any other bugs so far that I might was overlooking? Id say it's almost perfect. I still wonder why they integrated a Hi-res mode it make no sense with that low framerate

[lament escarp]

I'm sure it looked great in magazine articles back in the day.

[hasty musk]

No bugs.

[cerulean elk]

Nice

[unique coral]

new build..

[daring meteor]

New game working

[cold pollen]

Just one?

[daring meteor]

At least one

Monster truck madness

Through wtf are controls

Wayne Grezky 98 also playable

[wanton sun]

hmm? they started to work with this build?

[daring meteor]

South Park rally works

[chrome quest]

MikeS will have better data I'm sure, but just tested Bomberman Hero. PAL CRT, with both RGB and the composite core (with YC adapter), I can see a few lines (but not all of them) of the lower wrap around lines on the title screen and cutscene too

[tepid gorge]

I was just playing Banjo-Kazooie yesterday and noticed it was off center but hadn’t before

Was it always an issue or did it just pop up recently?

I know it got fixed today before anyone says

Just wondering

[marble cargo]

Playing Shiren the Wanderer 2 is pretty seamless. 👍

[daring meteor]

Banjo-Tooie (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es).z64 / Banjo-Tooie (USA).z64
Jet Force Gemini (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es).z64 / Jet Force Gemini (USA).z64
NBA Jam 99 (Europe).z64 / NBA Jam 99 (USA).z64
WWF War Zone (Europe).z64 / WWF War Zone (USA).z64

ONLY nonworking games right now that aren't TLB, this is great

4 games

[quaint pewter]

Save doesn't work at ALL though? Or is it fixed??

[daring meteor]

But now I discover my main code is bad haha

[chilly pivot]

Funny story... I only played it to act in the 'fight' scene. The actual ice hockey game didn't interest me.

[daring meteor]

Bad news

[wanton sun]

?

[marble cargo]

Technically you can bypass the anti-piracy in Banjo-Tooie to make it run on the core.

[daring meteor]

Yes

[daring meteor]

Bad news, the ice hokey matches don't end immidietly now

[zealous hull]

True, but it's certainly not pleasant. Haha

[fair stump]

But thats a good game

[marble cargo]

I've noticed a weird bug with Banjo-Tooie where the demo plays a lot faster than the actual gameplay.

[deft tree]

that just means everyone in that playgroup was garbage

[cerulean elk]

The heavy hitter games lol

Although todays video has Jeopardy in it at 4. So I made it a funny segment 🤣 cause Jeopardy

[daring meteor]

I mean

They're half of the non working games lol

[cerulean elk]

I really churched up the Jeopardy segment for 4 today. Hope people have a sense of humor lol

[daring meteor]

Do the Wayne Greyzky segment tommorow

It's amazing that at this point, the biggest blocker for games other than TLB is PIF DRM

[cerulean elk]

I’ve got another vid tues but it’s a bit diff. Widescreen demo and viewer requests. But I’ll add Gretzky soon!

The great one deserves it after all

[silent marten]

Would today's build have fixed the random crashes in Rugrats in Paris?

[delicate hearth]

Does anyone have an external download link for the Update_N64.sh script? I want to send it to a friend

[cerulean elk]

Or maybe I’ll move widescreen to thurs and make a new tues vid. We shall see 🙂

[native mesa]

@orchid nimbus made it

[delicate hearth]

Oh cool, does he have a GitHub page for it?

[blissful plaza]

Extreme-G works great now, thanks.

[toxic pumice]

Oh the extreme G sound issues got fixed!!

[latent galleon]

@delicate hearth check the pinned faq, shouldn't need that any more

[cerulean elk]

Ooh sound effects now?

[fair stump]

The stuck camera in nfl blitz special edition has been fixed

[toxic pumice]

Yep, music and SFX in game now!

[cerulean elk]

That I’ll def show tues then. Awesome

[fair stump]

So that's a newly playable

[daring meteor]

Simple CPU bug but many effects

[wraith estuary]

Pretty sure the update_n64 script doesn't work anymore and isn't hosted by Vampier anymore. It's been replaced by update_all. You would need to edit downloader.ini
Instructions are in the pins.

[cerulean elk]

If anything cool gets found @ me. Hauling in all our outdoor plants now because of a frost warning 😂

Winter is def coming early this year in Chicago

[lament escarp]

My plant's are already dead. Wanted to replant them and take them inside but figured it's easier to plant new ones next year.

[native mesa]

Oh shit frost warning

I better plant my garlic

[chilly ember]

Winter is gonna be here pretty quick too, need to get that jacket out

[cerulean elk]

We have a lot of “special” plants that come indoors every year

[chilly ember]

Special tomato plants

[cerulean elk]

Night blooming cirius cactus. Blooms once every three years and only if it’s happy. Bloomed this year

[lament escarp]

I still have a lot of garlic from the last harvest. I love how simple they're to grow.

[native mesa]

I have a hernia though, not sure I should be doing this kind of labor

[fair stump]

These Boots are dropping like flies

[latent galleon]

i had an agave that only blooms once every 10-20 years, then dies

had.

[fair stump]

South Park Rally, Wayne Gretsky 98, NFL Blitz special edition so far

[daring meteor]

Yeah, I counted only 4 games

That aren't TLB

[modern sleet]

5 if you count superman 64 as not "humanly" playable

[daring meteor]

lmao

[cerulean elk]

Ouch. Sorry to hear

[cerulean elk]

Sounds kind of fun in a morbid way

[latent galleon]

it went on for months, ended up 35ft high

[hollow rune]

@cerulean elk J.League Dynamite Soccer 64 (Japan).z64 just works with seemingly no issues now

[latent galleon]

every bird in the neighborhood went nuts

[cerulean elk]

Awesome thx panda

[quick arch]

Doom 64 - Complete Edition (Hack) doesn't hang with the new update

[toxic pumice]

this core is literally getting better on a daily basis, that's incredible

[fair stump]

Nfl blitz 2001 camera is also fixed

[lament escarp]

But no castlevania for halloween 😦

[native mesa]

@wanton sun I'm sure you're aware of this issue but it might be a low hanging fruit for you

[silent marten]

Rugrats in Paris throws a new error code E00C0100
from vampiers site
Bits 8, 18 and 19 all error now
RSP Instruction not implemented
RSP IMEM/DMEM write/read address collision detected
One of the DDR3 requesters wants to write or read outside of RDRAM

yesterdays build was only Bit 19

[fair stump]

Ready 2 rumble boxing doesn't freeze anymore and I completed a match

[silent marten]

😮

[paper orchid]

I remember enjoying that game a fair bit

Might need to revisit it today if it's working

[chrome quest]

Was just about to note that game. Without being at my MiSTer, there is a pattern, Ready 2 Rumble woul have been next

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/ use the other method used described their - the update_n64.sh script is just legacy

[fair stump]

Anyone have any other consistent freezes or camera issues they want me to check?

[chrome quest]

Anyone want to test "Mystical Ninja 2 Starring Goemon"
All the newly working games are those games which used to boot, show some screens, then crash without error codes.

[orchid nimbus]

TBL @chrome quest

[silent marten]

also @orchid nimbus on your error decoder there is a typo on Bit 19

you have "one fo" instead of "one of"

[fair stump]

Still doesn't work

[orchid nimbus]

@silent marten it was directly copied

[fair stump]

I always check that for panda 😆

[silent marten]

ok 🙂 I am guessing it is a typo on the github as well then

[wanton sun]

it is...please no pull request, haha

[fair stump]

Amazing work today @wanton sun tons of newly playable

[cerulean elk]

Gonna have to do a diff vid tues. Kinda excited though

[wanton sun]

i didn't expect it

[orchid nimbus]

I will adjust it 🙂

[wanton sun]

it is kind of funny, all i wanted to fix was this:

[toxic pumice]

lol, and it's just had the side effect of fixing a ton of stuff in the process?

[wanton sun]

i assumed it to be a VI bug, it was not. So i checked if it was a rendering bug, it was not. So i checked if the RSP calculated wrong, it was not, then i found the CPU was writing a wrong value for RSP to work with

[tropic sand]

MAME 64 PAL (PD) Paladin Beta 3 now games are selectable... but no sound in them... But wow 😍

[fair stump]

Down to 12 that only boot on USA

[toxic pumice]

can someone hit me up with information on how to patch PD to work without tlb please? I'm trying to find but no such luck

[wanton sun]

use this with online patch tool, done

[toxic pumice]

thank you brother

[umbral hare]

short question: what is the schedule for alaog video output?

[orchid nimbus]

a new frame every 50 or 60hz 😛

[lament escarp]

It's true

[wanton sun]

i have no idea. The output currently isn't so bad that it's time pressing

(is that even a english word?)

[woeful beacon]

haha it is

[lament escarp]

Pressing for time maybe?

[umbral hare]

i understand german english 🙂

[woeful beacon]

you could say that its a time pressing matter

or a pressing matter

[wanton sun]

there is no pressure to fix it 🙂

[woeful beacon]

but it worked out great for me

[woeful beacon]

nailed it

[hollow rune]

@cerulean elk
Mario no Photopie (Japan).z64 is useable, but for what not sure. Photo editing?
Parlor! Pro 64 - Pachinko Jikki Simulation Game (Japan).z64
Puyo Puyoon Party (Japan)
Robot Poncots 64 - 7tsu no Umi no Caramel (Japan).z64
all work now, but they hadn;t been tested in a while. Be careful. The last one takes a while to get going

[umbral hare]

i also write in denglish

[remote hatch]

it was probably already written here (sorry there is too much going on ) , but I wanted to ask about the white lines during the race in star wars episode 1 racer

[hollow rune]

I can check

[wanton sun]

should still be there

borders of alpha effect

[umbral hare]

i ask because my mister is hooked up to the CRT and i can't wait to test the core

[lament escarp]

Same effect as the white line in the oot trunk?

[remote hatch]

thanks! 🙂

[kind solar]

now this is podracing

[cerulean elk]

Thanks panda! Appreciate it 🙂

[wanton sun]

2 pass rendering still has border effects like wrong pixels, alpha not working, polygon holes, ...

[cerulean elk]

@hollow rune tuesdays vid I’m gonna mention your twitch. That cool?

[tropic sand]

Is that the same for beetle racing skybox?

[wanton sun]

no

[hollow rune]

I didn't doubt Robert, but I had already jumped in before he answered and they are still there

[silent marten]

This causing the no text in robotron 64?

[wanton sun]

no

[hollow rune]

Of course. Thank you so much

[remote hatch]

thanks 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Least I can do. I appreciate you letting me know what’s working better / we all need to grow and get bit 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

bring bamboo

[hollow rune]

Gonna help my dad make homemade pizza. So no more testing for me. @fair stump you are awesome for knocking out the boots but don't scoots

[wanton sun]

did anyone check banjo on a crt with the new build?

[hollow rune]

Better pizza and Code Red Mtn Dew

[fair stump]

Nice work on the Japan side of things yourself 👍

[hollow rune]

i wish I had more time

[orchid nimbus]

stay healthy!

[lean spruce]

I will hook mine up to the CRT and check

[lament escarp]

Is there code red mountain dew in germany? Also, did you see the ai generated mountain dew commercial on yt? It's mesmerizing.

[vapid hawk]

biohazard2 is still hanging same as before at the stars office - i thought maybe cpu fix would help here but no

[fair stump]

Ah so still random freeze?

Or is it a consistent spot?

[hollow rune]

Only imprted from usadrink.de and m y mom pays through the nose for it

[quick arch]

South Park Rally works !

[fair stump]

@orchid nimbus new graph time?

[orchid nimbus]

Soon 🙂

[lean spruce]

There is a black bar on the left

[wanton sun]

so slightly right shifted as i expected

thank you!

[lean spruce]

Yes no problem

[vapid hawk]

consistent spot

[hollow rune]

We have an analog out ntsc N64, If you were in Munich we could lend to you. Not sure if it would help

We won't need it when you are done

[wanton sun]

that's very nice...it's just...i refused to get a CRT for years now, i must hold the line 😅

[vapid hawk]

RE2 - FMV looking much better i think

lot of junk now cropped off the bottom

[elfin depot]

I can send you one of those too 😉

[eternal island]

lol

[wanton sun]

ok please, no. I already need to find a place for the second n64 at my desk. They don't stack well

[eternal island]

i remember someone offering him one and the response almost being terror

there it is

[hollow rune]

we don't have a crt since coming to germany due to space. We jsut use the retrotink mini with it and the dreamcast

[lament escarp]

We could 3d print brackets for you to make the n64s stackable. :p

[wanton sun]

what a wonderful idea!

[covert jacinth]

i also confirm it on my crt and also a smaller black bar on the bottom too

[eternal island]

ive actually taken a liking to lcds and oled tvs recently

for these games

[hollow rune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sword-in-the-stone-disney-classic-books-gif-17008207

you need this

[eternal island]

.. but i got all these 36 inch crts now

[elfin depot]

It's smaller than the N64 tho 😉

[eternal island]

i still hold the 36a42 and 32a toshibas as worth keeping but the rest i dont care about

[solemn marlin]

36 inch, you lift it by yourself?

[eternal island]

nope. the 150lb ones i can sorta, but im not wide enough to keep a good grip

too awkward

the sony 36xbr350... not a chance

250*

[chilly ember]

Trinitron are tanks, I can lift my 32 inch but very awkward and I wouldn't wanna carry it for long

[eternal island]

thats a cool microwave

[solemn marlin]

I kinda want something like that, just a fat monster that can't be moved

[elfin depot]

4 player on a microwave

[eternal island]

lmao

[latent galleon]

this guy

[eternal island]

gotta squint a lil

[cerulean elk]

Amazing

[compact depot]

Is Automobili Lamborghini fixed?

[latent galleon]

you are nuts @elfin depot

[cerulean elk]

Also that cabinet again. Every time I see it I want it

[latent galleon]

yes

i need a dedicated "wallets and accessories" drawer so badly

[eternal island]

the only crt where you can't see your opponents screen because you have to actively try to just see yours

[solemn marlin]

Dude stop screenwatching, I saw your pupil move 0.001mm

[elfin depot]

They are wallet and accessories patterns, we do leatherwork

[eternal island]

i think the only selling point left for me on crts is the motion. looks better than oled still, but i think oled tech once it gets better is going to overcome that eventually

[weary robin]

Anyone know if/where I can get a snac adapter for n64?

[lament escarp]

Deng! That's awesome!

[latent galleon]

did you make those?

[elfin depot]

MisterAddOn's has one, going to be back in stock soonish

[elfin depot]

Yes. patterns can be very large and best layed flat, so blueprint/map is ideal for holding the patterns

[latent galleon]

ok that's why it looks like my sewing table

[solemn marlin]

I like leaning forward and just enjoying the phosphor

[latent galleon]

very cool

[hollow rune]

Would you actually ever part with it? Is it 60hz and takes composite?

[grizzled phoenix]

now also Galaga in Namco Museum 64 (USA) works. For me, it was the only game consistently not starting (black screen)

[toxic pumice]

I've just noticed in the system settings the toggle option for the transfer Pak - is that actually supported or is that just placeholder?

[daring meteor]

Counterpoint: Grt a 15KHz LCD to test analog out

[prisma ivy]

That's a thing?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[prisma ivy]

TIL

[daring meteor]

My PC monitor syncs to 15KHz

It's not notable at all, IPS, 2017 I think, 1080p

[elfin depot]

Which one? 😉 the Sony is composite, the other two are composite moddable but I like my TVs stock

[daring meteor]

But 15khz syncs

P2417H

[lament escarp]

Pls use a rt5x to downscale ps5 and show spiderman playing on that tv.

[daring meteor]

Hey its 80$ on amazon for some reason

[solemn marlin]

Immaculate crts, can you view them for a longer period?

[elfin depot]

Newest Sony thing I have is a PS3 FAT and no rt5x sry.

[eternal island]

anyone try killer instinct?

has it been working?

[woeful beacon]

yooo what a fuckin reference

[elfin depot]

The 3.5" Sony has a VERY high TVL, (like, 600 or something, on a 3.5" screen), text is actually quite readable on it and its not that bad at all, just have to sit closer

[solemn marlin]

So cool

[eternal island]

im limiting myself to 2d/kind of 2d fighters to improve my ability a bit on those

[hollow rune]

It was my mom's idea

[eternal island]

buddy wants me to get good at blazblue central fiction... and im horrible

[fair stump]

Looked less glitchy but still froze a second after round start

[woeful beacon]

based momma

[eternal island]

ah

[hollow rune]

I may DM you later if that is okay. I gotta work on Pizza right now

[solemn marlin]

I can't even pin the sony one, for what purpose? The other ones are some sweet kitchen monitors but that one looks alien

[lament escarp]

Now I'm hungry thanks.

[hollow rune]

She just sayed she is old enough not to know what that means, but I told her it is good

[elfin depot]

Well it's an AM/FM/Microcassette recorder with a built in 3.7" (3.5" viewable I think) High TVL screen. Mosly used on executives desks I think. I got it because it's one of the smallest Trinitrons made. And it's cute. Guy I got it from was a diamond miner in the north, and it was small enough to fly in on the bushplane with him.

[solemn marlin]

That's amazing, now I see it. A yuppie lifestyle item like patrick bateman would boast about no doubt

Diamond miner in a bush plane beats any ebay listing tbh

[modern sleet]

looks like more tweaks are needed for analog out,

https://tenor.com/view/cat-im-on-it-gif-8500426

[wanton sun]

what issues do you see?

[daring meteor]

Inb4 MikeS just outright implements async at this rate

[modern sleet]

Its just my OCD moving a pixels to the left or lines down a couple

Easier to see now with Banjo aligned

[wanton sun]

well, banjo is not really centered yet

[daring meteor]

Just a month ago htotal was wrong and now we're here

[past mango]

NICE. I really wondered about this one, it seemed like a unique issue compared to other games on the list.

[modern sleet]

Yeah, I'm the only one that might notice anything at this point, Ill just wait for async to fix things up if needed. Probably no point now when sync will be brought in per game as well

[cerulean elk]

Stop with these photos. I can only get so…excited 🤣

[zinc dew]

A diamond miner?

[elfin depot]

Did I spell it wrong? He was the owner of a large Diamond mine in Northern Canada.

[zinc dew]

Canada? What’s a Canada?

[cerulean elk]

Haha nice. I need to do videos on my PVMs at some point. The diff models

[elfin depot]

Land were they don't take your house when you break your leg because you can't pay for it.

[zinc dew]

that’s because you have diamond miners!

[lament escarp]

In my country your employer has to keep paying your salary for 6 weeks when you get sick by law. Pretty sweet.

[modern sleet]

Its a barrier in the north to keep out the crazy yankees

[weary perch]

i've had Glover running for like 12 hours now and it's been stable the entire time. seems possible the crash is fixed

1014 build

[hollow rune]

It is one of the reasons my parents don't want to move back. The healthcare too

[lament escarp]

What's your opinion? Do you want to move back to the us?

[zinc dew]

I am a crazy yankee!

[topaz otter]

America's hat

[hollow rune]

What I want is to be able to go to Culver's when I want or get a good pizza. Things like that. I am not sure though. For me I am just a small panda, so I realize things are more complicated for humans.

[solemn marlin]

You better have a sweet cassette collection for it, some banging tunes

[hollow rune]

My dad has MS and that is way easier to deal with here

[eternal ravine]

Kirby vs Yoshi
faight

[hollow rune]

Are you running cpu vs cpu in smash? In which case Yoshi

[eternal ravine]

Which one will eat the other first

Just in general

[hollow rune]

I think Kirby in Kirby and the Forgotten Land would destroy most things

[woeful beacon]

lol

[cold pollen]

I'm not old enough to know what based means

[dreamy grove]

You are missing out

[chrome quest]

I'm too old to know what based means

[cold pollen]

The problem is that it means several things depending on context

it's kind of meaningless at this point

[lament escarp]

Based opinion.

[cold pollen]

It's kind of like "sweet" or "cool" at this point lol

[chrome quest]

What's that 4/5 new games working? Amazing. Finally getting down to play
(Even more with the Japanese games I neglected to consider writing that)

[solemn marlin]

Any jap exclusive hidden gems?

Besides the train sim

[thick terrace]

Do I need a unstable MiSter? Doom and Automobili Lambo are still all red.

[vagrant ivy]

unstable mister has no impact on in core activity

[lament escarp]

The neon genesis game is nice if you liked the show.

[thick terrace]

ok, so he still hasn't got to whatever effect that is. How many more visual modes are left?

[lament escarp]

Sin&punishment is also really popular.

[solemn marlin]

I watched it at least, not sure if I have particularly strong feelings about it, s&p was translated for wii tho?

[toxic pumice]

There's a translated n64 rom too

they brought it over, it's brilliant

[solemn marlin]

I've played a little but wrong person to judge shmups, barely finished one

[mellow path]

What's the language barrier like?

[solemn marlin]

Bomberman 64 japanese one? It's just bomberman?

[lament escarp]

It's Japanese, but there is a korean fan translation if thats helpfull for you. I read you can play it ok if you already know the plot from the show.

[languid dune]

You're going to put your channel in jeopardy with that kind of content!

[cerulean elk]

No jeopardy music. Lots of jeopardy jokes lol

Two hours till the fun

[lament escarp]

Can't miss that. What a jeopardy for my sleep schedule!

[cerulean elk]

Turd Ferguson will be there

[quaint pewter]

Can I have a pee please, Bob? Ooops wrong gameshow.

[toxic pumice]

showing your age there a bit

😉

[desert crow]

I was actually waiting for jeopardy. no seriously

[toxic pumice]

well, i guess most of us reliving n64 nostalgia through a rather expensive means are of a certain age.

[mild ether]

Is the expensive way the original hardware or the MiSTer?

[toxic pumice]

I imagine original hardware is cheaper given nano prices nowadays?

[lament escarp]

Mister is not expensive when you look at the value. It's literally 1970-1996 in a box.

[toxic pumice]

oh absolutely, if you take into consideration everything else it can do then there's obviously no contest

(MiSTer still isn't cheap now though!)

[chilly ember]

N64 with all the mods and an everdrive potentially could be more expensive

[mild ether]

I am not sure actually but I know my N64 and an Everdrive wasn't cheap either.

[lament escarp]

C'mon that's like saying that super family sized bag of cereal is expensive compared to the normal box, even though the money/oz ratio is better on the big bag!

[toxic pumice]

cost/value ratio, and being able to afford the initial cost of it, are very different things. 🙂 I do agree with what you're saying but that doesn't stop the initial cost being rather expensive nonetheless.

I'm extremely happy I have one and it's absolutely worth the money

doesn't mean it ain't bloody expensive. 🙂 all subjective though innit.

[lament escarp]

My xstation modded ps1 was around 400 bucks. Plus memcard pro and controller that's a basic mister setup.

[chilly pivot]

i buy a complete mister package for 400 Euro...i believe its a good deal.

[lament escarp]

Yeah I'm just trying to troll you I'm constantly broke it's horrible

[toxic pumice]

lol - I feel you.

[chilly ember]

I lucked out on a stock n64 by buying it 12 years ago for 50 bucks with 4 games and a couple controllers before retro prices went stupid. The ever drive was expensive tho

[toxic pumice]

My three main hobbies are vinyl collecting, video games, and MTG, and I have a family of four. Having to ration what I spend on things gets extremely difficult.

[orchid nimbus]

For todays standards yes

[chilly ember]

I wish a mister setup was cheaper so could reccomend it to people

[lament escarp]

I spent a good junk this year on producing my own pokemon version and on vpets. I don't feel all that grown up to be honest. At least new games have the decency to be shit so I can save some money there.

[mild ether]

MiSTer isn't exactly cheap when compared to raspberry pi type solutions for sure. It was the analog RGB and no lag for NES, SNES that sold me on the first MiSTer and the second was the CPS2 core in an arcade cabinet.

[quaint pewter]

boot up and shut down times are painful on Pi

[mild ether]

N64 is just a big bonus I never saw coming.

[toxic pumice]

hard agree on this - I thought PSX was the limit of what we'd see

[chilly ember]

I got a mister when the other guy started developing a ps1 core before robert then I waited a year for Roberts core. Never expected n64 ever and i was ok with that

I wonder how many people are buying mister's because the n64 core exists now

[elfin depot]

Many hats were eaten when N64 games became playable on the MiSTer I'm sure

[toxic pumice]

It's also made me realise the N64 is a lot better than I remember it being. I wouldn't have ever really said the N64 was my favourite console, but getting this core working and going through the game list, there's so much I absolutely love here.

[mild ether]

The JammaPI is also a pretty decent solution for arcade. RaspberryPI has gotten better over the years as well.

[gritty current]

I found MiSTer cheap compared to Raspberry Pis because with Pis I felt the need to upgrade to newer models with the hope of getting better accuracy.

[solemn marlin]

👋

[gritty current]

Plus my first MiSTer was only about $180

[toxic pumice]

trying to think how much I paid for mine now

[mild ether]

Yes, MiSTer was a ton cheaper when I first got one. Don't recall exact price but I believe the de10 was 160

[quaint pewter]

I got one from Ricardo at end of 2020 I think for about £300ish

[toxic pumice]

exactly where I got mine too, 359 EUR for the mister pro kit

[mild ether]

Maybe less I don't really remember.

[gritty current]

To be fair, the assessment of whether it was possible mainly originated from Robert. So not really a hat eating type situation.

[mild ether]

Just had to upgrade the sdram when neo Geo core came out

[latent galleon]

i am still otg hug and 3d printed case 4 years later

[fair stump]

Complete pre-built from misteraddons in 2021 for mine was $350

[latent galleon]

i am leaving that typo

[teal sail]

Just tested new core, I'm not sure it is analog related but something changed relating to interlaced modes, In Star Wars Racer it is always interlaced even with low res mode, also in World Driver Championship game renders at what looks like half the vertical resolution, mister menu shows its as 238i

[gritty current]

I think it was $130 when I got it, perhaps $109 with academic pricing

[quaint pewter]

just for the de-10 tho?

[gritty current]

yeah

[elfin depot]

I seen people yelling from the rooftops that N64 would NEVER happen before that I'm sure, but doesn't matter, it's awesome that it's happening, let alone so fast.

[mild ether]

Maybe it was the same when I got mine too. It was quite a while ago before Neo Geo shortly after SNES.

[gritty current]

but you just needed a 32MB SDRAM ($20) and a OTG usb (($8)

[quaint pewter]

October 2020 pricing of full kit was a lot of money but reasonable if you look it it afterwards...

[toxic pumice]

I think about how much I got, and am still getting out of mine, it's ridiculous.

I'm building a controller collection for the different cores as well which is making a difference - i've got a saturn pad, PC engine pad, now an N64 one.

[chilly ember]

I use my mister more than my pc these days, haven't touched my steam deck for a couple months now

[toxic pumice]

bought a usb amiga tank mouse as well lol

[latent galleon]

legacy pixels in 2019

[lament escarp]

Same. Got nes, snes, saturn, n64 and pc engine and ps1 on the way. Hopefully the madness will end after that.

[elfin depot]

Jaguar? 3DO?

[latent galleon]

you can use N64 controller for all of those, duh

one to rule them all

[limpid forge]

is 2 player possible on the n64 core yet?

[fair stump]

It's gotta end sometime, right...right?!

[lament escarp]

Never had those, don't wanna know.

[latent galleon]

actually i have no idea what a saturn controller looks like

[elfin depot]

Me neither, just remember the commecials for the 3DO in the satalight TV days

[toxic pumice]

My wife and I played Mario Party 3 with each other earlier today, multiplayer seems to be fine. 🙂

[lament escarp]

Thought the same when I spent unholy amounts of money to modify my fleet of retro consoles. Only the gb player and ps1 was made redundant by the mister. So far. 😄

[quaint pewter]

six button genesis controller is about the same. more or less

[toxic pumice]

(and in typical fashion, she came from being 4th to winning during the bonus stars, not bitter at all)

[limpid forge]

It does not seem to recognize my second controller

[chilly ember]

I mainly use a dualshock 4 for everything but the n64 core, use 8bitdo mod kit for core because dual shock feels wrong

[latent galleon]

@quaint pewter so N64 can cover it all!

[lament escarp]

Sega controllers are all pretty much the same. Look like the 8bitdo m30.

[toxic pumice]

Have you told it to expect 2 pads here?

[latent galleon]

6 face buttons, two shoulder pads, analog stick what can't it do...and a z button for the mouse in computer cores

[desert crow]

that will be his problem, it's a new option

[fair stump]

Second analog stick

[limpid forge]

Awesome help, thank you so much!

[elfin depot]

Snax64

[latent galleon]

that is a surprisingly small list

[quaint pewter]

yes

[latent galleon]

and more of a diamond shape than m30 for the abxy

truly king

[lament escarp]

I had a ps2/gc and a few gameboys I was concentrated on.

[latent galleon]

ah, so not the classic 8 and 16-bit

[lament escarp]

Yeah I missed the 90s consoles because my family was too poor. But reading the articles in magazines always mystified me.

[chrome quest]

Todays core seemed to have fixed a lot of minor things.
Bunch of playable games had brief bits of garbage in screen transitions. Virtually all gone from testing now.
DK64 had a graphical glitch in new game/load game intro, where the sky/map appeared before the zipper zips. Now fixed.
Lylat Wars had lot of garbage between screens, seems perfect now!

[quaint pewter]

Has the garbled graphics before a race starts in Micro Machines gone? It was there yesterday when I played.

[orchid nimbus]

hmmm ... which games went from boots to playable?

quite a lot

[shrewd peak]

Ready 2 rumble finally playable 😍

[quaint pewter]

Please insert your Ready 2 rumble pack.

[shrewd peak]

Was crashing on a splash screen for the longest time

[quaint pewter]

The lord GIFfeth and the lord taketh away.

[chrome quest]

Another TLB used oddity. I want to test the few not booting games for TLB again. In PJ64, I did a first pass as most TLB games just straight didn't boot, but some (like ECW Hardcore Revolution, or maybe it was WWF Attitude, one of those) didn't crash until the moment you try to punch someone

[quaint pewter]

maybe it just uses it for blood particles?

like kicking up dust in Paper Mario

[orchid nimbus]

wow it works

wish it didn't - I hate this game

[quaint pewter]

Manic Miner is on N64? wut the wut?

[fair stump]

South Park Rally, Wayne Gretsky 98, NFL Blitz special edition, nfl blitz 2001, ready 2 rumble boxing. And panda found a bunch of Japan ones

[chrome quest]

And Monster Truck Madness 64

[orchid nimbus]

nice

[fair stump]

Can't even remember them all 😆

[chilly ember]

Wonder if polaris snocross still crashes. I got to the third lap on last core and it was still freezing

[fair stump]

Worth a try, I didn't test that

[raw oriole]

Is that an Amstrad emulator or something?

Too colourful for Spectrum, too high res for most other 8bits

[chrome quest]

Like 1080 Snowboarding I'm just updating since you tested Vampier. Seems perfect now.
No more video retention in screen transitions, no more E0000400. Seems great. Bet that's the case for a whole ton of games

[orchid nimbus]

I just went live on twitch

testing the demos

a lot have sound issues

[chrome quest]

Jet force Gemini got slightly into a load game this time

[mellow path]

Anyone who is having controller issues with Swap Analog<>Dpad on mischief makers, the everdrive set has a rom that hacks Analog controls in and it works perfectly 💪

For whatever reason, I couldn't get the game to register diagonals (up-left or down-left) when swapping dpad<>analog. (Oem GC + Mayflash)

[daring meteor]

Still crashed for me

[zenith orchid]

there's also handhelds up to early 2000s

[chilly ember]

Dang, was worth a try. Thanks for testing. I'd have tried it but not at home. I'm usually not home when robert drops a core 😵

[languid dune]

I'm trying to think of why anyone would want to use an analog stick to play Mischief Makers. Feels like that would make it impossible to play correctly.

[lament escarp]

True, gba was 2001 iirc? Seems like the change of the millennium is somewhat of a natural boundary to the mister. :p

[zenith orchid]

yeah

also I think the PDP-1 was 1959

so a span of 42 years

[native mesa]

That's Moore's Law for ya

[lament escarp]

Every new millennium requires a bigger fpga, right? 😄

[native mesa]

https://youtu.be/Y6Rms5J7nGI?si=3xMtsXob38RM83I4

[shrewd peak]

getting a bit jiggy in here now

[zinc dawn]

I got my first de 10 for £120

Sold it because I was stupid

[empty cliff]

early adopter hype

[native mesa]

We got lucky

[empty cliff]

mine cost £380 with all io board etc. and housing

[native mesa]

Mister got me through covid

[empty cliff]

but after currency conversions and delivery to get it into this country it was like 460

pain

but worth

[quaint pewter]

from Ricardo?

[empty cliff]

me?

retrocastle for me if that's what you're asking

I can't reply now because about to take off

on a flight

[zinc dawn]

I bought a de10 last sept for £225 shipped purely for PS1

[quaint pewter]

ah ok. I got mine from ultimate mister in europe imported to uk

[empty cliff]

yeah I am in russia atm with my wife is the thing

and they didn't let me pay in pounds

so I had to get it in rubles which is a conversion for me and a conversion for them

[zinc dawn]

PS1, Saturn, N64, SNES, Genesis, plus a bunch of other arcade and consoles. It's worth it's weight in gold. I may just sell off my PS1 Collection

[empty cliff]

right, flying!

[weary palm]

I bought from digikey, 2019

[empty cliff]

see yooou

[cerulean elk]

4 minutes to Jeopardy🤣

[zinc dawn]

I like that game

[cerulean elk]

I am only laughing because I made it a very special segment in the video

[native mesa]

I forgot your 4 is my 5

[cerulean elk]

my 6 is your 9 I thought

....lol

[chrome quest]

Just tested these 4 games again (the PAL versions at least). Disabling TLB on Project 64.
Wanted to be more thorough and ensure I got in game in each and moved around a bit (since some TLB game crashes seem to not be instant).

Best I can tell, all 4 do indeed not seem to use TLB. (Couldn't verify "WWF Attitude" as it was not playable regardless of settings)
There could be an odd working game that uses TLB we aren't aware of (since we now have at least 7 games that PJ64 says use TLB but work anyway), but I don't think that matters much

[cerulean elk]

it also has Doom. But compared to Jeopardy...not as funny

[daring meteor]

Banjo and JFG are known so no real need to test them

Just NBA and WWF

[chrome quest]

Reminded me... Except WWF, I couldn't verify that one either way. Couldn't get NTSC or PAL to work in emulation at all

[cerulean elk]

and loose...enjoy Turg Ferguson

[daring meteor]

In any case - the other two are funny DRM and known

[visual mortar]

Hello, banjo tooie is working for u?

[daring meteor]

WWF works on PJ64 on interpreter no TLB

[oblique remnant]

@chrome quest and other raphnet / dexdrive users. Do you know how to integrate a CPAK .sav from the mister in a .n64 dexdrive image for using it on real hw?

[chrome quest]

Come to think of it, Tooie does work (with patch that is, I keep forgetting):
#1096015979055697940 message
Can't really mark as playable yet on the sheet though.

Has anyone tested patched Jet Force Gemini?

[chrome quest]

Sorry, I don't actually own any CPAKs, so never used that function of the raphnet. Can confirm getting saves from GB games with Transfer Pak works, never messed with CPAK stuff. Someone in chat did merge an original cartridge save a while ago I think.... Not CPAK if I recall, but might know the method. Can't remember who though

[chilly ember]

I used https://savefileconverter.com/#/flash-carts to convert a mister eeprom save for everdrive and then back again to test a bug on real hardware with the tlb patch on perfect dark

[chrome quest]

Micro Machines looks good, no garbled graphics far as I can tell (only loaded a single race mind)

[mellow path]

GC controller dpad just isn't good for this game. I should probably just use Dualshock come to think of it.

[oblique remnant]

thanks but I can't get it to work yet. renaming the mister .sav to MPK or .N64 will not be recognized there either

[chilly ember]

Yea i'm not really sure either. I only did the one save

[chrome quest]

Aside, Jet Force Gemini with the everdrive crack (NTSC and PAL), same issues as regular versions on todays core

[languid dune]

Yeah, using an analog stick is just not going to work for Mischief Makers. Even the GCN d-pad would be better. To properly dash in the game, you need to rapidly tap left or right on the d-pad, which would be impossible on an analog stick with the speed needed to do it.

[cerulean elk]

But I heard you are the fastest man in Wisconsin? Did women not mean with an analog stick?

Or wait they said fastest finish. Sorry got confused

[languid dune]

You're making some mischief there Awbacon!!

[short trellis]

I must have played that first level of Bangai-O 20 times just to see if I can get past the boss 😅
Still hangs there unfortunately.

[languid dune]

Just proves how much of a closet fan of Mischief Makers you are.

[zenith orchid]

F-Zero X with widescreen, and dithering disabled, is my favorite thing ever right now

[languid dune]

I see that you are a man of culture.

[toxic pumice]

I haven't applied the widescreen patch, but I am also smashing the hell out of f-zero x right now 😄

[zenith orchid]

Do it, just, do it

I play a bit of F-Zero X during my study breaks when I feel like my brain is slowing down.

I don't know if it's just me, but it feels like F-Zero X is more fast paced than F-Zero GX, and it demands faster hand eye coordination and response time

[languid dune]

Probably just you. GX is fast as hell.

[toxic pumice]

Was about to say

GX is insane, story mission 2 is PTSD inducing

[zenith orchid]

Really?

I guess I haven't played far enough into it

[toxic pumice]

X is still very quick though

[native mesa]

I like the idea of F Zero but the courses are so bland and boring

[languid dune]

They're both fast.

[toxic pumice]

can't name a better racer for just generally being 'in the zone'

[hollow rune]

We have GX and it is very fast. Seems like I need to try X again. I only every briefly messed with it on emulator

[toxic pumice]

you're so focused on keeping the thing on the track, it'd be wasted if anything was prettier

[languid dune]

But then GX comes around and is arguably the best looking GCN game ever made.

[native mesa]

I'm not talking about asthetics, but lack of hazards other than the edges

I like Jet Moto 2 but they kinda went the opposite extreme

[toxic pumice]

true that, it was insane how good it looked

[native mesa]

everything kills you

[zenith orchid]

When I played F-Zero on the SNES, my over active imagination made everything prettier. If I remember right, Mute City is so large that it occupies most of the planet, and so I was in awe of the city pattern below the track

[languid dune]

F-Zero is less about track hazards, and more about 30 other racers hazards.

[native mesa]

like space nascar

[toxic pumice]

Silence 1 is basically space nascar

[zenith orchid]

I like that its not as forgiving as Mario Kart if you go off the track, it makes it feel more like a game for the cool kids 😂

[toxic pumice]

i'd generally say the handling is a hazard as well

you gotta get used to that grip

[zenith orchid]

The variety of vehicles also keeps it interesting

[toxic pumice]

all expert completed

now master 😐

[zenith orchid]

You got this!

[languid dune]

I've tried so many other futuristic racers over the years (e.g., Wipeout, Fast RMX, Redout, Extreme G, Star Wars Pod Racer) and none of them have ever captured the magic of F-Zero for me. I enjoy most of them, but none of them are even close to F-Zero good.

[zenith orchid]

Guess at that point you're boosting so much that you gotta be able to handle every turn flawlessly

and you keep your max speed up so you gotta avoid decelerating at all costs

[echo dawn]

I saw people are playing F-Zero X and Mischief Makers. Is there a secret to getting these to work? I'm using the US versions. F-Zero doesn't load, and Mischief Makers freezes at the start screen. Using the newest version of the core.

[toxic pumice]

You need the N64-database.txt file

[zenith orchid]

Are you using the N64 database?

[toxic pumice]

you're probably missing that 🙂