Nintendo 64

[weary beacon]

it was all ready established its not copywrite protected. romhacking doesn't allow it.

[raw oriole]

DM me the link and I'll see what happened

We try not to mess things up

[woeful beacon]

Rayman 2 on latest core - text looks readable now!

so far so good havent seen any issues but holy fuck this intro lol

move it along raymenandwomen

[native mesa]

Intros were so long

Like Lakitu I don't give a shit about your new camera

[woeful beacon]

good thing im doing this not at my current job from home

Lakitu really do not be givin it ye

the game had the audacity to actually blare an alarm when I tried to hit start during this cutscene

[native mesa]

Blame Nobuo Sakruai Miyomoto

[weary beacon]

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6631/ psst pass it on

[woeful beacon]

I think it is safe to say Rayman 2 TEXT WORKS! as of 9-17 - oops I forgot to run update... will go to 9-19 now!

[quaint rune]

Lakitu is the originator of the selfie stick

[woeful beacon]

(wow this game is pretty)

[native mesa]

It's blocked at work

[raw oriole]

The art style really suits the N64 shading style

[woeful beacon]

yes plus the lighting

[raw oriole]

Pfft work blocks 🙄

[weary beacon]

Put your two week notice in!

[raw oriole]

Probably a casualty of a generic "games" blocklist

[native mesa]

It's fine I can remote into my home computer

It's not blocked!

[surreal summit]

Text has worked for a few builds. Has still been randomly crashing at certain points though.

[nova grotto]

Where can I delete the controller pak ?

[sharp beacon]

Zelda OOT rumbles when you start a game

[weary beacon]

in the saves n64 folder. All saves are in one file (per game).

[woeful beacon]

got it I was just going off of the spreadsheet

South Park still doesnt boot but error is E080045

[fair stump]

Man, THPS is such a classic

[woeful beacon]

thats so fuckin weird

because I was playing that before I went on a testing binge

text still doesnt work right?

[fair stump]

Correct

[woeful beacon]

also playing tony hawk with a gamecube controller I had c-buttons mapped to c-stick

and it was a surreal experience

C stick down to jump, cstick left to kickflip

so bizarre but kinda neat

[weary beacon]

Does the n64 version have the Demoness. That was my favorite version on pc.

[fair stump]

Yeah, THPS here is c stick down for me which feel awful. From the little bit I tried of 2 they switched it to the A button

[nova grotto]

ty

[fair stump]

I'm not sure. I know the credits mention Officer Dick so he may be playable

[surreal summit]

Isn't the CPak functionality not supposed to work this way? This is in Rayman 2's CPak manager but it is showing saves for that last two games I tested. My impression from Robert's description was that each game would be sandboxed.

[daring meteor]

Boot A Bug's life - I bet it will show only itself

[desert nest]

I wonder if it's holding everything in memory while you switch between games.

Working from that theory if you loaded the memory card from the second game you played in that set, you shouldn't see the contents of the third.

I haven't tested it that's just my guess, definitely doesn't seem intentional though.

[surreal summit]

You are correct, interesting.

[daring meteor]

Hybrid Heaven will show it, and Bugs life

The core doesn't clean the CPAK on game switch if the game had no save beforehand

(Or had a small save, one of the two - You tell me)

(Or both)

If its a small save, not really a problem

[desert nest]

@wanton sun for visibility on odd CPAK behavior when switching between games ^

[daring meteor]

If its no save, we should inform Robert

[surreal summit]

Also, for those that are new to the N64 games, most (all?) games that have CPak support have a CPak manager that you can get to by hold Start on system boot or reset.

[desert nest]

TIL (I was wondering about that, I had no idea)

[tropic sand]

https://www.dkoldies.com/blog/get-access-to-your-n64-game-memory-pak-files-in-this-hidden-screen-/

[chrome quest]

Mind present homebrew has the best Rumble Pak test I've seen
https://n64squid.com/mind-present/
Option straight from the menu, can test all 4 controllers. The test makes the rumble level adjust with anaolg position, so you can vary gradually all the way from weakest to strongest rumble

[daring meteor]

Yeah, I can now confirm it occurs on games with no saves

[surreal summit]

Only problem is holding Start on the 8BitDo controller I am using shuts it off. 🤡 May have to assign Start to a different button for now.

[daring meteor]

And I just had my mister freeze when saving?

[viscid nebula]

Girls be all like 👀

[surreal summit]

Same, I didn't get to see if Hybrid Heaven would show the saves because it froze on the A Bug's Life save.

[viscid nebula]

thats sad

I can't find a single "beep me again" commercial on youtube

old school pager commercial

[daring meteor]

Yeah, so that's a really odd bug

A really odd

Bug

's life

[surreal summit]

Boo

[daring meteor]

That's Mario

[surreal summit]

boo_this_man_boo.gif

[chilly ember]

I might try finishing the world is not enough now that cpak is working. Never have before

[plush dragon]

Hey guys, a question, my Xbox controller has some drift, even if I tried it with another controller (an Xbox 360) do any of you have the same problem? and how to solve it, thank you

[zealous hull]

That may be better answered by Googling, my friend.

Worst case scenario, gotta replace the joystick module.

[warped patrol]

Just now finding out NFL blitz 2000 menu works 👀

[plush dragon]

OK, nvm found the solution in the in pinned messages, lol, thanks anyway guys

[cerulean elk]

I am opening the next N64 vid with YOU KNOW WHAT 64 for all your monsters named @zinc dew

[viral portal]

All these major updates to the core have my head spinning. Where are we at with implementation? What chips are left assuming RDP is finished? I'm out of the loop, just want to understand better.

[worn delta]

That's a good question, we are already very far along. The big one is the TLB which is a big lookup table needed for some (big) games like Goldeneye and Paper Mario. I think there is more RDP? We have transparencies and weirdo colours in games like Harvest Moon, so there are parts still need to be added there. Various bells and whistles like Rumble Pak , Transfer Pak, RTC, Cheats (assuming there is space). Will obviously be lots of bits of cleanup, optimisation and bug fixing but it's crazy how much we have already and how playable the core is. The progress is unbelievable.

[surreal summit]

Yeah so I just confirmed that the saves hold over, just going down the list of CPak games.

[orchid nimbus]

Brain64

[desert nest]

If you reboot the core do you start off with a fresh CPAK? Could be a workaround for now.

[zinc dew]

Curious how the transfer pak would work. Most of the time it would just be to read save data right? Likely easily tackled as we have a bespoke save folder for that.

[desert nest]

That's... another issue to raise I would say haha. Definitely shouldn't be crashing.

[orchid nimbus]

does the pak need new a mister unstable didn't detect it

[dusty tusk]

For Pokémon stadium I feel like it should borrow from thr gameboy core save directory

If that's even possible

[orchid nimbus]

does it need to be initialized?

[surreal summit]

I shouldn't say that the crashing happened when the CPak was full, I don't know that for sure, but it makes sense. The process was just loading each of those games in order until I got to Army Men: Sarges Heroes and it crashed on that menu which was when there was no more space left on the CPak.

[weary beacon]

I asked if delting saves was enough but no one answered. You might need to use the UI to format it for equestrian64

[surreal summit]

Yeah, booting the core fresh works.

[orchid nimbus]

to chat ... hello?

or am I misunderstanding what this pak thing is?

oh god I'm blind

[desert nest]

If it's a fresh pak and you already had a save for Quark 64, then yeah you might need to initialize via the UI.

[surreal summit]

You have to turn it on in the core menu if that is what you are asking.

[orchid nimbus]

~DERP~

[desert nest]

Seriously you can't even use the initals for that game?

[little socket]

you should read that vampier.net informational page

[orchid nimbus]

Qvest64 now starts without problems/warning

[desert nest]

Cool 🙂

[native mesa]

Does Mystical Ninja work?

[orchid nimbus]

Last time I tried (this morning) only the intro

[native mesa]

Wasnt sure if cpak improved compatibility

[mortal panther]

According to Robert, it shouldn't have... though there were some caveats as to why some games potentially wouldn't load (due to corrupted Controller Paks).

[zinc dew]

Reminder the Fully Playable has been retired due to a gigantic influx of games that now save thanks to today's CPAK build. Please continue referring to the Compatibility tracker (#1096015979055697940 message) to check what is playable/completable. Thank you!

[cerulean elk]

so thats is for saving yeah? all formats included

I have not been doom scrolling the thread today lol

[native mesa]

Yeah not sure if it's a final itteration

I'm hoping there is documentation on the save file that gets created so we can split them out into individual pak saves if needed

or migrate saves from emulators or original paks to mister

[orchid nimbus]

eh guys - I need more 'not supported' stuff 😄

[little socket]

I would not call xtreme-g supported

[desert nest]

RTC?

[manic basin]

Beige Wasteland Edition

[thorn flax]

really tall charmander

[worn delta]

Real Time Clock, just used in Animal Forest for keeping the time

[orchid nimbus]

the moment of crash

[desert nest]

No guys... I know what RTC is (thanks though) that was for @orchid nimbus hahaha

[brisk drum]

Went through the entirety of todays chat and no gifs ..

I am proud of you all

[orchid nimbus]

RTC/YC Support

[weary beacon]

Voice Recognition Unit?

[desert nest]

Yeah maybe even just extend that to CRT support in its entirety

[orchid nimbus]

Pikachu I see you?

    <li>RTC</li>
    <li>YC-support</li>
    <li>Microphone</li>```

[desert nest]

Not just Y/C

[orchid nimbus]

<li>Analogue Out</li> works

[desert nest]

🙂

[orchid nimbus]

<li>CRT support and Y/C-support</li>

[daring meteor]

Rumble isn't supported

[orchid nimbus]

sorry copying directly from my HTML file

[desert nest]

I know some people have issues with CRT still and it's not fully ironed out

[daring meteor]

It will be supported tommorow I bet

[desert nest]

So yeah that's probably more accurate

[orchid nimbus]

yes it is... the rumble pack can be selected 😄

[daring meteor]

It can be selected but it does nothing

[dusty tusk]

What if wizzos remote script could send microphone signals?

[daring meteor]

Robert already mentioned wanting to have an easy test case, so its an easy assumption it'll be the next thing

[orchid nimbus]

latency

[native mesa]

I'm not sure if it's an RDP feature or something else but there is the 'horizontal' blur as well.

The blur is not just anti-aliasing. It’s a horizontal 50% blur. The N64 outputs a 640 pixel wide image, even if the backbuffer is 320 pixels wide, and it doubles the backbuffer’s width to fill the line. The appearance is an “off by half pixel” blur done horizontally. Correcting it produces a sharp 320px wide image. The scene’s rendering and use of AA shouldn’t affect it.

Because the blur is exactly 50% “between pixels”, that means every other column is a 100% intact part of the original 320px image. So, if we simply drop the blurred columns (odd columns) and re-use the good columns (even columns) we have a restored 320 pixel image. Naturally there is zero lag in this technique.

[orchid nimbus]

also no communicaiton with hardware directly

[daring meteor]

Also, I would write "Analog Out" as "Exact Analog Out" instead to make it clearer

[lament escarp]

Isn't that just a list of tlb games by now?

[orchid nimbus]

no need to be so anal*** about it 😄

j/k

[daring meteor]

Extend the list of TLB games

[desert nest]

Yeah I guess RGB "works" but YMMV

[daring meteor]

Yeah, its not that it doesn't work, its that it 80% works (And Mike's version 90% works)

[worn delta]

Anyone tried the Majong game with the built in modem? Wondering if that one will wind up just playing fine without any odd mapper or hack, hopefully it just does

[orchid nimbus]

@weary palm what did we say about gifs?

[zinc dew]

#1096015979055697940 message

[weary palm]

You said no.

[vagrant ivy]

see Rule 8 Please keep GIF, Sticker, and embed usage in on-topic channels to a minimal amount. Excessive use of these can be disruptive to conversations and make it difficult for people to participate.

[dreamy ridge]

oh baby controller pak saves. so now we can race our ghosts in mk64?

[vagrant ivy]

yes

[vapid hawk]

we should start a ghosts leaderboard

[vagrant ivy]

I aint afraid of no ghost

[vapid hawk]

with the saves attached

[native mesa]

You can play with yourself all day

[orchid nimbus]

final question on cpak - shared or individual per game?

[chilly ember]

Yay

[vapid hawk]

per game

[chilly ember]

Individual

[orchid nimbus]

good

[zealous hull]

It's supposed to be per game.

But some people have found some issues, I think?

[orchid nimbus]

just like the mem cards for the PSX

[native mesa]

Kinda

but there are 4 files merged into 1

one for each pak slot

[zealous hull]

Probably a dumb question, but does Robert have a public roadmap? Or is it more of an informal thing.

I feel like I would have seen it at this point if so, tbh

[surreal summit]

Yeah, currently there is a bug where they hold over when you load a new game. But you can either reboot the core or delete the save from the last game you loaded from the CPak manager.

[desert nest]

Yeah currently the contents are carried over game to game if you don't reboot the core in between

[zealous hull]

Ah. That's it. Very good to know. Thanks!

[vapid hawk]

if you read his patreon you'll get the vague impression of a roadmap, he might of shared a really broad one early on

[desert nest]

Easiest workaround is just restart the core if you change games IMO

[chrome quest]

The "issue" of potential cross over, is that a useful feature? Are there an N64 games that play tricks with this ala Metal Gear Solid?

[zealous hull]

I'm on his Patreon. 😎
Gotcha. Just wasn't sure.

[native mesa]

Generally he focuses on what will grant the most immediate value or what he can fit in his schedule

[desert nest]

He tends to work on what's most interesting and/or biggest impact

[zealous hull]

Why even implement Rumble Pak then? 😉

[vapid hawk]

i think he sometimes just works on whatever bugs are in the game he wants to play next too

[desert nest]

Yeah that too 🙂

[dreamy ridge]

oh rumble paks have impact lmao they have their own batteries

[little socket]

you saying MKT will forever be stuck witht he incomplete rectangle on char select?

[vapid hawk]

rumble pak is needed to play OOT perfectly might be why

[dreamy ridge]

the Stone of Agony

[vapid hawk]

yeah

[zealous hull]

I figured. Just didn't know. It probably doesn't make sense for him to spend a lot of time organizing a list when he just blazes through them anyway.

Spend an hour formatting a roadmap just to complete half of it in another hour.

[daring meteor]

My guess is because its probably really simple

[dusty tusk]

Playing the later ports of oot and riding a horse for the first time with rumble was mjnd blowing for me

[vapid hawk]

i think he keeps a private one but its more just like a unordered list of stuff to do/bugs to fix

[native mesa]

Don't forget SM64 rumble edition

[zealous hull]

Nah, I want Rumble support too (feature complete). I just probably won't use it. 🙂 I'm glad other people will though.

[native mesa]

And Buck Rumble

Ruck Bumble

[mortal panther]

Buck Fumble

[vapid hawk]

goldeneye was great with the rumble pak

[weary beacon]

I'm actually really interested in rumble for wave race shindou edition after reading about it.

[zealous hull]

I turn off rumble in every modern/retro game I play.

[worn delta]

Robert needs Rumble Pak for Mario Party games 🙂

[vapid hawk]

i wonder if now we have controller pak support its possible to get it working over snac too

[dusty tusk]

Every horse hoof is replicated in the rumble. There was a surprising eye for detail when Nintendo used it

[zealous hull]

I had no idea. That's so cool.

[worn delta]

I think it may be that having done Controller Pak now Rumble Pak is now low hanging fruit, so can knock that out next

[daring meteor]

Rumble from what I see does just 2 things-

1 - Output 0x80 on most adresses
2 - Rumble when written to

[vapid hawk]

n64 rumble is kinda unique since its just one big motor but way off centered, its got way more kick to it than any modern pad

[daring meteor]

It should be really simple

[zealous hull]

I wonder how complex transfer pak will be? Can't be simple, yeah? Seems like he really wants it in for Stadium though.

[daring meteor]

Maybe signal to PIF too

[native mesa]

Can I use the GBA rumble cartridge thought?

[desert nest]

Oh wow so the rumble pak has no concept of intensity? It's just on/off? I guess they just blipped it or maybe cycled it on and off really fast for a crude duty cycle?

[weary beacon]

This and transfer pak would be ownage.

[dusty tusk]

Most games just checked for a game and that was it, but yeah stadium will need to be able to handle saving and loading gameboy saves

[native mesa]

I want to hear a rumble pak PWM beat now

[dusty tusk]

I just want to unlock seaside Pikachu legit after all this time

[daring meteor]

At least according to ares, it doesn't

[vapid hawk]

way simpler than dualshock by the sounds of it

[desert nest]

Neat

[daring meteor]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ares-emulator/ares/master/ares/n64/controller/gamepad/gamepad.cpp
Line 191

if(address >= 0xC000) rumble(input[3] & 1);

[surreal summit]

Yeah, setting the controller down during a cut scene only to have it vibrate off of the table was always an experience. Gamecube as well.

[carmine kettle]

how to cpak work you apply in the osd and that it?

[chrome quest]

On/off and one motor. I'm curious if the Raphnet will work. On PSX it rumbles non-stop if anything is happening, which would make sense. It expects some varying on/off signal. It gets the PSX varying seperate weak and strong motors, with a constant varying signal, and just goes wild!

[vapid hawk]

heh

its probably quite hard to mux two rumble motors down to one

[native mesa]

They need to do way instain mother> who kill thier babbys, becuse these babby cant fright back? It was on the news this mroing a mother in ar who had kill her three kids, they are taking the three babby back to new york too lady to rest. my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden ; i am truley sorry for your lots

[chrome quest]

I'm just hoping whatever implementation keeps that "basic" original version intact, seperate to I would guess whatever way (if any?) can make something meaningful for say Dualsense rumble.

[vapid hawk]

did someone just activate HMPoweredMan?

[chrome quest]

How is rumble for PC emulation using modern controllers does anyone know?

[vapid hawk]

probably just rumble both motors at the same time

[weary beacon]

Depends on your USB adapter

[native mesa]

Xinput

[chrome quest]

Can translate the on/off into something of a meaningful range to use the strength of modern rumble I guess

[native mesa]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/xinput/ns-xinput-xinput_vibration

[vapid hawk]

yeah you could like run a small buffer and make a sort of running average i guess

but that might sort of smooth over stuff like the hoof landings in oot

[daring meteor]

Wow

The N64 standard libs even were just on/off

[chrome quest]

I'd always assumed that was why people had trouble getting NSO to rumble initially, or work on PC, etc.
Who knows how Nintendo has that working for the Switch, but the controller is doing "something"

[modern sleet]

Do you have a list of games that are broke ? I can have a look at the timing on them and see if there is a quick fix

[daring meteor]

Star Wars Episode 1 High Res mode, I think High res mode will break very often

Fifa 98 I think

By the way I can't find your repo with changes again

[chrome quest]

Think Star Wars is also wrong on HDMI in high res mode though

[modern sleet]

Oh I thought I fixed Fifa, I'll have a look at them

[daring meteor]

Ah maybe you fixed than, I'm not sure if it was on your core or not

[modern sleet]

Nhl99 had the same issue I think

[daring meteor]

Yeah, but those analog fixes do apply to HDMI through at times, esp with Vsync Adjaust 2

[chrome quest]

Is this only issues using your adapted core MikeS? Or anything odd over analog using the Robert version

[hasty kayak]

FIFA 99 has High Res mode. To me it looks no different on the Core when enabled.

[weary palm]

Perfect Dark has hi res too

Or lag mode, as I would like to call it.

[hasty kayak]

It definitely slows down on some games.

[worn delta]

Yeah Pod Racer plays a lot better in 240p than 480i

Be interesting to see if things are better in 480i mode on the core when it is further along

[warped cobalt]

Which controller test are y'all using? I can't get any to work.

[vapid hawk]

i think some games had 480i hires modes but some had like, 240p modes but >320 horizontal resolution

[weary beacon]

i like Controller Kensa-ki NUS-yo N Cassette (Japan) (Test Program).z64

[hasty kayak]

Ah man ISS 98 would basically be PERFECT if the FPS would remain at 30 as it does on Real Hardware. When it dips, the Audio Stutters.

If that extra bit of performance is found, I will absolutely be jumping for joy 🙂

[chilly ember]

Vigilante 8 has a high resolution mode but need to enter cheat code to activate it

Think its 480i

[vapid hawk]

this will probably get ironed out, its actually crashing some other games

[noble ember]

Finally got the 4dapter to work on my MiSTer + N64 core

[zealous hull]

If it's not running at sub-20 fps, is it even a N64 game? 🙂

[weary palm]

Speaking of 480i, how does the Bombers' notebook look in Majora's mask?

[ocean lily]

that controller tho

[paper orchid]

Yesss Super Pad

Love that controller

[noble ember]

@paper orchid I know it looks ugly but I love it

[paper orchid]

tbh it's comfortable as hell

[noble ember]

Yea it is. I never likes the stock/OEM N64 controller

[zealous hull]

I had to delete my save and format the pak in the OSD.

[devout leaf]

Ghostbusters2.gif

[zealous hull]

But then I got it working.

[paper orchid]

All ghosts are beyond saving

It is too late they are already a ghost 👻

[thick terrace]

hey all. what's up?

[compact depot]

Nothing much

[chilly ember]

Pretty good what about you

[eternal ravine]

N64 is OK and all, but what aboot Jag CD

[scenic gull]

Anyone know why I wouldn't have any directional input on cruisin world. All the rest of the buttons work I just can't steer the car

[native mesa]

Are you using the d-pad?

[scenic gull]

Have tried both d pad and thumbstick

[cerulean elk]

Highlander!

[surreal summit]

Majora's Mask stalls at Zelda teaching the song of time. A known issue?

[versed cairn]

yeah, audio cuts out eventually and it's needed to trigger songs

[cold pollen]

did you have trouble?

[weary beacon]

I wonder if they coded the level with the songs, or if it was attached only to the ocarina.

or objects like the scarecrow.

[wispy peak]

n64 update script isnt working for me

i get an error at the end and no games boot

[native mesa]

Yes

[worn delta]

If you read the pins the way to get the latest files now is to add a line to your download ini file then just run the official update script

[wispy peak]

thats what i did

i added the 2 lines to my .ini

when i run the update i get an error on default.txt for n64

[arctic fractal]

Welp, Blast Corps still freezing at the Rareware spinning logo 😐

can't wait to play that game

[weary beacon]

I will help you cause I know your name. Let me run my update script and check.

[worn delta]

Did the core ever load games for you?

[wispy peak]

no this is my first time trying it

I have not manually added any BIOs yet

i thought the script would

[worn delta]

Run update all to get the boot.rom files
Make sure you are using a good pack of ROMs e.g. HTGDB Everdrive pack or no intro

Run a ROM that is known to work, check the sheet for compatibility

[weary beacon]

Does it come up and say "read n64 dev-blah"

[wispy peak]

I ran the update all. It did not give me the BIO's unless it dropped it somewhere random on my SD card and not in N64 folder

I have the BIOs on my PC though

[worn delta]

Might want to make sure you have enabled BIOS DB in the update all menu, but it should be on by default

[weary beacon]

sdcard, USB drive, or NAS?

[wispy peak]

sdacrd

[half mason]

Wired tribute64

[weary beacon]

did it download the n64 RBF file?

[wispy peak]

i think i found the issue

in my update all setting I have BIOs for my device unchecked

i enabled it and the games boot

[noble ember]

@cold pollen yes for the 4dapter to get my N64 controller working I first had to map it to control the main MiSTer menu, then map it in the n64 core

[cold pollen]

That's how every controller ever works though 🤔

[quasi storm]

Just a heads-up: I'll be starting my stream soon. Head over and recommend some games!

Be warned: I have NO IDEA what I'm doing...😆

[weary beacon]

Link in the description.

I almost got to the endurance rounds this time in MKT. It was Way closer to full speed. Still some gfx issues but it was feeling right! Froze after like double the normal time it was.

[scenic gull]

Ended up being my controller.

[cerulean elk]

Nobody does. We just all pretend lol

[surreal summit]

Well I got through the problematic Majora's Mask section by adjusting the delay on the cache and memory so now I guess I just need to keep adjusting it down until the audio cuts out again.

[rapid condor]

zImage_dtb kernal i got the nso n64 controller, is this file something i add manually to the mister?

the controller is not working when i plug it to the mister. only via bluetooth

[hollow orbit]

Does the core have yc support?

[quasi storm]

I think I derped by not saying WHERE I was streaming...

Channel voice. Is that even the right place? Is there a better one?

[tidal glade]

OMG conker is coming

[brisk drum]

Looks like a modern art piece

[native mesa]

Does this also improve YPbPr?

[cerulean elk]

Conker bad pixel day

[deep beacon]

Took the plunge again and running mister unstable and n64 core. I have the star fox intro looping. For whatever reason Mario 64 crashes right after the title screen to some garbled lines at the top quarter of the screen

Rogue squadron ran its intro with some aspect ratio quirks, and then it smushed the mister menu ui until I closed it. But overall this is pretty fucking cool

Thanks devs

[blissful plaza]

You need a no-face patch for Mario 64.

[deep beacon]

Ok I won’t worry about it then. Ty. I’ll mess around with other stuff

So far the only downside to mister is everything looks too clean. Component is too nice, I didn’t have even svideo until GameCube

I’ll find a way to live

[versed cairn]

Wait till the n64 Vaseline filter is implemented. It will get ya there 😉

[worn delta]

Check the pinned posts, you don't use unstable Main now and there is a new method to get the new files

[deep beacon]

Ok. Thanks for the heads up. Now that I’m on unstable I’ll mess around with Saturn for a bit.

[mortal panther]

This is the way™️

[modest helm]

Controller Pak doesn't appear to be saving for me. Road Rash 64 and Cruis'n USA don't save when I exit the core. This is also after I open the OSD after saving and it completes the "Saving..." prompt

Autosave is on too.

Mario Kart 64 ghost saves work fine though

Got CPAK selected for all 4 controllers too

Actually I take that back. My MK64 ghost saves aren't there anymore

[weary beacon]

dun dun dun

Did you use that new format option in the UI?

[modest helm]

I see it. Do you just press "Format CPAK now"?

[weary beacon]

back up your save if you care about it. I think so though.

[modest helm]

Nah. Don't care about my ghosts. Just press it and save the core? Do you have to do this on a per game basis?

[quasi storm]

Dunno if it has been mentioned, but I started rush 2049 (Maybe not relevant), and went to enable a cpak for player 1. OSD then said "Saving..." and stuck there. Couldn't exit the OSD. Had to reboot.

[modest helm]

Same issue occured to me when I tried booting Beetle Adventure Racing

[weary beacon]

hmm I like rush 2049. I'm gonna see if I get that real quick.

[quasi storm]

Okay, so I reproduced it. It happens when I enable player 2 pak...

Dang. Mister is totally stuck. The ticker along the bottom is CRAWLING.

[weary beacon]

or do you mean the eternity in the UI saying saving....

ok, so after doing a format of the pak. I had to do a reset. Then it didn't error out with not enough space.

[quasi storm]

Can you save the pak setting like any other setting?

[weary beacon]

Now my name is saved. Numerology. 666=fox

Well it's a file in saves/N64/game.xx If that's what you want to back up.

[quasi storm]

Hmm, TWINE doesn't have the issue @wanton sun

[weary beacon]

Talk about a sound track. Rush 2049. Stunt. That is lit!

[chilly ember]

Twine is all I've tried so far and seems like cpak saving is working, nice

[modern sleet]

Oh RE2 boots, and plays decent with a cache delay of 4

[weary beacon]

The verdict is in. Rush 2049 saves even after a reboot on the core.

Pending an eternity saving in the UI.

[chilly ember]

Playing the world is not enough and James Bond can handle multiple gunshot wounds but the moment he touches a flame he dies instantly, wtf James

[weary beacon]

flame=james bond kryptonite

[chilly ember]

James never learned how to stop drop and roll in mI6 training, he skipped that class

[dreamy kayak]

Quake II 64 is awesome :3

[chilly ember]

That steak isn't rare

It's raw

[weary beacon]

Right, game breaker man. Just like I hate being able to kill town gaurds at level 1. There is a reason no one ever talks fondly or asks for remasters.

[chilly ember]

Quake 2 remaster includes the N64 levels tho

[weary beacon]

I thought we were talking about james. Sorry.

[chilly ember]

I thought that was the case :p. Oops

[weary beacon]

It's cause i linked it on the quake. It's almost my bed time. Just ignore me at this point.

[chilly ember]

Twine isn't Goldeneye, it's okay. Goldeneye got a remaster that never released and a remake along with another re release of the original on Xbox and switch

The world is not enough, no one cares for it really

Robert likes it, he didn't play Goldeneye tho

[weary beacon]

It's cause it's not nearly as good as golden eye. Is there MP?

[chilly ember]

Yea there is mp with bots

In twine

[hollow orbit]

Will I need to do anything special to use my nso controller via BT?

[weary beacon]

I'd say well let's play and check it out. He's in germany and I'm in US.

[warped patrol]

Just curious. I read that you can format the cpak per game for each to have their own separate memory. NFL Blitz 2000 requires 123 pages and I cant seem to create a new cpak for it. I reset core and formatted from system settings.

[weary beacon]

Format, reset core.

[warped patrol]

I thought I tried that and it didn't work. But I may have just done it out of order. Thanks

Got it working

[weary beacon]

I also assumed you saved through the UI. Had the issue with Rush2049 when I checked.

[warped patrol]

Yeah, Im not sure what I did wrong. But at least it works now 😆

[weary beacon]

I even deleted my saves. I had to go in, tell it what pak. Format it. Reboot core. Then save in UI.

which was an eternity.

[warped patrol]

Interesting, yeah I had an issue with another game saving forever in the UI, I think it was vigilante 8?

[weary beacon]

havn't tried it but yeah. I thought it froze. Did some upkeep around the house and came back seen it was back in the menu.

[warped patrol]

That's good to know. I'll keep that in mind next game that hangs

[weary beacon]

I explained that badly. I thought the UI froze (Saving...)

I couldn't get out of that menu until it was done.

[warped patrol]

Same thing happened to me, I think I understand correctly? I just reset my mister when it save "froze" on me

[weary beacon]

haha yeah, just give it time.

I think I lived two lives between that. J/K I'm ADHD so yeah.

[languid dune]

So for each game with pak saves, you have to boot the core, create the save in the game, and then reboot the core before booting another game?

[quasi storm]

I must be in that rare camp of people who really like TWINE. Had it back in the day, fresh off of Goldeneye, and while you're right that it isnt Goldeneye, its still better that it has any right to be. Just playing through it now: The graphics, the sound, and even the gameplay are top notch!

EA was a different company back then...

[chilly ember]

EA it's in the game

[quasi storm]

Or was it Eurocom?

[chilly ember]

EA games published it

Eurocom developed

I played it in the past when I rented and I thought it was alot cooler back then

[quasi storm]

Oooh, I just remembered that Shadowgate is playable! Dabbled a bit a few days ago, and it looks interesting.

[brisk edge]

I really need to play through the other James bond game, I've only ever played like the first level or two

[chilly ember]

I'm going through it on agent because I'm a noob and finished the first two levels

If I finish it on agent, I'll go through it on 00 agent

[warped patrol]

I personally love the game. Enjoy!

[quasi storm]

Watch it. I tried 00 agent first, thinking I could handle it after having not played it for years. Boy, was I wrong. 00 agent is TOUGH.

[chilly ember]

I did too and yea 🙃 maybe when I know what to do, I'll attempt it

[quasi storm]

Secret agent is okay, though

For me, anyway. I feel like agent might be TOO easy. They really dialed in the difficulty levels

[zinc dew]

I wish that game worked for me lol

[chilly ember]

Stupid police officers in the first levels, gotta stun em but they're shooting at you at the same time as the terrorists

[quasi storm]

I was impressed by the graphics. I hope the writing is as nice as the nes game

Yes, I know it wasnt an exclusive

Those detailed death messages kept me coming back

[warped patrol]

It's not as punishing as the NES game, but I enjoyed the story a lot

[quasi storm]

It's the perfect example of a game that doesn't really need a high frame rate, so the graphics get a bump.

[brisk edge]

I got a few hours in before my old controller pak died, so shadowgate is also on the list for me. Definitely a unique game for the 64, can't think of any other adventure games like it

Also has a fun sense of humor

I remember how if you start picking up like every book the game starts to just shit talk you for picking up worthless junk lol

[quasi storm]

There's something I could stream...

[mild ether]

Shadowgate is a great game. I don't know about the n64 version but it's a classic totally worth playing through once in some form.

[quasi storm]

Its up if anyone is interested

[vapid hawk]

crashes when you get to the stars office

[mellow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-arnoldchwarzenegger-turbo-time-jingle-all-the-way-gif-11070880

[zealous hull]

Oh hey, good morning Robert. Hope you have a nice day!

And are getting good rest. 🙂

[quasi storm]

@warped patrol Back on Shadowgate, if youd like to swing by and give me some pointers 😆

[warped patrol]

Sorry, I'll be going to bed. Good luck!

[wanton sun]

the rumble pak behaves pretty much like a controller pak, just returns different static values. So it makes sense to complete all this handling while i'm still on the topic

[zealous hull]

That does make sense! Honestly, I was just making a very dumb joke in response to another person in chat. 🙂 I didn't make that very clear though. 😅

Excited to see what comes next whatever it is! Playing on this core has been one of the highlights of these last several weeks.

[wanton sun]

So are there really bugs where the saving is hanging or does it only take long? I couldn't get a final answer from all the posts

[zealous hull]

I haven't personally encountered any bugs where saving has been hanging? I haven't been testing super thoroughly today though.

I believe there are instances where the pak carries over save data between games.

Not isolated.

[dusty tusk]

Finally got 10m of hdmi so I can test the core again. I learned the hard way that a meter is very different than a foot 😛

[wanton sun]

yes, the core doesn't format the cpak without user action after booting the core. You can always do it in system menu. Might not be ideal for all situations, but i don't want to run into issues where a save was deleted by some autoformat and people open the OSD and it autosaves and their save is gone

[zealous hull]

It looks like @quasi storm had issues with saves hanging?

[surreal summit]

I'll test again.

[quasi storm]

So far, it only seems to hang when running Rush 2049. I've tried only few others, but no issues so far.

[wanton sun]

could also be related to saves not stored on sdcard but somewhere else. I remember this being an issue with psx memory cards also that saving takes very long if it's on e.g. a network drive

[dusty tusk]

Is there any reason a formatted cpak save couldn't be baked in for a fresh save?

[wanton sun]

so it's reproducible with rush 2049?

[zealous hull]

I'll move my saves over to my NAS and do some testing.

[quasi storm]

My whole mister lives on the SD card.

Lemme try again

[dusty tusk]

Most people still have the sd card hold their saves even if using usb, you sorta have to go out of the way to do that sorta thing

[wanton sun]

the issue is that there are no "fresh saves". If a game has no save stored on sdcard, the core gets no notification and would format the cpak at some time, but doesn't know if there might be a file downloaded later. It's risky

[dusty tusk]

Ah, okay.

[quasi storm]

Seems to be reproducible

[wanton sun]

so it's save to autoformat at core boot, because no game can be loaded, but afterwards, there is always the risk to format a file the user still wants to have and i rather not do that

[wanton sun]

ok i try it

[dusty tusk]

Could set it as an option in the danger zone menu

[zealous hull]

I see no reason not to format manually. You do it once, and you're good.

[dusty tusk]

But I think it would be fine if the user has to do it manually

[wanton sun]

that's why i hide it in the system menu

if someone wants to figure out a way to autoformat...feel free. You don't have to understand the core, just can use the input port that currently takes the manual format

(of course you get all the trouble of people that lost their saves randomly 😛 )

[quasi storm]

It seems that the hang only occurs if a pak is enabled in other ports as well as 1. Individually they do not hang.

[zealous hull]

Just curious, but did you enable all ports in other games you played today?

[quasi storm]

Yes

[wanton sun]

makes no sense, as the pad type setting in the osd only influences what the game sees and not what is saved, but i will try it

[quasi storm]

All on and saved as default

[wanton sun]

ok, can reproduce...will see what is happening

[surreal summit]

Same when I had the hangs happen. I can try with just the first CPak enabled.

[zealous hull]

Same game?

[wanton sun]

most likely the game for some reason writes to a cpak the whole time and then autosaves wants to save the whole time

[quasi storm]

my stream is still running, ill let it sit and see if it resolves

I guessing it wont... haha

[wanton sun]

better stop, it will write to your sdcard forever

[quasi storm]

Could it cause damage?

Or lost data?

[zealous hull]

It's not good for it.

[quasi storm]

Alright, it's stopped

[wanton sun]

constant writing will damage the sdcard after some time for sure. Maybe not fast at 40kbyte per second, but slowly

[quasi storm]

Let me know if you would like anything else tested.

[wanton sun]

so manual saves work, that means the game is accessing the cpak all the time

[orchid nimbus]

@quasi storm why you so shy?

pause core when menu is active?

[surreal summit]

No, A Bug's Life, but I was looping through the games to see if they continued to hold saves, which now seems irrelevant based off of what Robert is saying. I just misunderstood the way the saves are supposed to work I guess.

[wanton sun]

the core cannot pause currently

[orchid nimbus]

oh yeah - pause it the most important part of save states - I forgot

[quasi storm]

I will say that when nothing is plugged in, and it gives the "can't save" warning, it hops to menu AS SOON as a pak is plugged... maybe relevant

[wanton sun]

tested in my emulator: while the attract is running, it writes to the cpak constantly

that's really annoying, no idea how i could handle it

maybe only one save per osd opening

[orchid nimbus]

@quasi storm why do you have 4 cpaks activated?

[dusty tusk]

Does it not already wait for the OSD to be open?

[wanton sun]

yes, but it saves anytime while the osd is open

[zealous hull]

It would bring it in line with how we handle other saves, no?

oh.

I misunderstood.

[dusty tusk]

Yeah, I'd just save once when the osd is open

[wanton sun]

will change to only trigger once, should be enough

[zealous hull]

it will write to all four at once if enabled?

but only one time?

[dusty tusk]

Most people opening the OSD aren't assuming more saves will continue to go through

[gritty current]

works great. Are you going to submit a pull request to get this into MiSTer main? I keep losing it when I run update-all.

[dusty tusk]

Once pause on osd is in, this will likely just be a weird footnote

[wanton sun]

yes, only saving when opening should be fine. Even if the game continues to run in the background, i hope people will save again if they want the "new state from the background"

[wanton sun]

markun is already on that. It's not that easy. We will get it in when it's time for it

[zealous hull]

going to do the cardinal sin and ask here before rtfm, but is there a simple config for hosting just N64 saves on my NAS?

currently I'm only hosting games

[dusty tusk]

Can't complain about what they don't know right? I wouldn't worry too much about this background save thing.

[surreal summit]

Yeah, Obviously can't speak for others but I generally just open the menu before switching games or shutting down the core and would not expect any post menu changes to be saved.

[orchid nimbus]

we're having some discussion in a DM with 2 others

about the auto detect fallback if no entry is present in the DB

sounds like a usefull thing to have

but that's only for CIC

[dusty tusk]

It's baked into the user base to open the OSD after the game you're playing alerts you that it's finished saving

[quasi storm]

@orchid nimbus go to bed

[zealous hull]

Honestly, if the end-user knows enough to patch a rom, they should know enough about getting a checksum value and adding it to a textfile, no?

[orchid nimbus]

yes dad

[zealous hull]

Actually.

No. I take that back.

[dusty tusk]

I wish checksum checking was just built into windows already

[zealous hull]

Sure, but you can find open source tools that get you there pretty quickly.

Alright, got saves hosted on my server. Going to do testing around them tomorrow.

[wanton sun]

this only saves once per osd opening, works with rush 2049

@quasi storm if you want to try

[zealous hull]

Okay, I thought there was a problem. Turns out it just takes forever to save. 😅
I'll blame that on my network.

[wanton sun]

yes, network saves are slow for some reason

[surreal summit]

Fixed the two games that I had stall on the CPak menu. 👍

[wanton sun]

thank you for retesting. So it was only the games writing constantly and no other bug in the save handling itself

i will use that as example when the next time the question comes up why you need to open the OSD with autosave on 😅

[gritty current]

ok, thanks for clarifying

[zealous hull]

Not really surprising. But Ghost data saved and persisted across cold reboot using a network save.

[surreal summit]

I don't think so, the other screenshots I posted were me misunderstanding how the CPak system works, I think. The workflow is to make sure you format the CPak from the menu each time you load a new game if you want it to be "clean", correct?

[zealous hull]

It's my bedtime now. Hope you all have a lovely day/night!

[wanton sun]

yes, format yourself or reboot the core

it only happens if you start a game fresh, never when it already has a save

[daring meteor]

Maybe it's triggable from mister main, that if you see no save you initiate a format

[wanton sun]

there is probably also SOME way to do it in the core. but figuring it out will be a lot of pain and unwanted saveloss...

if someone wants to do it, i take any pull request 🙂

[quasi storm]

Hey...

@wanton sun not sure what you've seen so far concerning the cpak issue, but go to the create player menu in 2049 and plug in a second pak. Game is doing the funky chicken in the background.

[surreal summit]

I don't envy you trying to figure this out. I had a bunch of issues with the Everdrive 64's CPak save system, including losing old save data from when I was a kid, so I understand the caution.

[wanton sun]

does this game even work correct with multiple cpaks on real hardware?

[quasi storm]

Unfortunately I cannot test that 😦

Anyone have a copy to confirm?

[wanton sun]

i mean, it works with cpak in any slot, just not with more than one

[surreal summit]

Maybe I can do ED64? It's not a real cart but I do have two CPaks.

[wanton sun]

should be fine

i have no real cpaks currently

[iron dove]

Would an option to reboot the core when loading a game work? I guess that has the same risk of someone unintentionally loosing a cpak save

[vapid hawk]

lmk if that doesn't work out, i have 1 cpak only but i could at least test if it works in multiple ports etc

[iron dove]

ive got a 64drive but pretty sure only 1 cpak, will check

[vapid hawk]

i think my blueretro receivers can pretend to be a cpak too

[iron dove]

ahh i do have a 2nd official cpak if its of any use me testing

[chilly ember]

I have a everdrive and two controller paks *

[ebon oyster]

Killer Instinct locks up on me during attract mode:

[quasi storm]

I tested each port individually. Its only when port 1 and any other are plugged in. all other combos seem to work

on mister

[daring meteor]

16 tests is a lot

[wanton sun]

port 2+3 also shows the issue for me

it happens only if you switch to controller pak 2 or 3 in the game

[quasi storm]

But, like I mentioned, go to create player screen, the game menu does some wierd switching when the bug is happening

[quasi storm]

I suppose I wasnt exhaustive 😦

[chilly ember]

Donkey Kong 64 finishes the rap consistently with a fresh boot 3 out of 4 tries, it's a little out of sync but whatever 😄

Not related to controler pak saves but i thought it was neat

[surreal summit]

No funky chicken on original hardware.

[shrewd peak]

is it still slightly off sync?

[chilly ember]

Yes

[quasi storm]

I cant wait until the Mister can sync with the subtitles

[shrewd peak]

i actually cant wait to replay dk64

been too long

[quasi storm]

@wanton sun

[chilly ember]

Its not that far off from what I can tell, it's cool the audio isn't stopping more often than not. Gotta get that dk rap

[wanton sun]

thank you!

[ebon oyster]

Is there an updated unstable MiSTer main build containing the analog stick range fix?

[surreal summit]

Sorry it took a bit, had to run to the garage for the extra CPak. Just so you know setup is NUS-01 N64 with ED64 V3 and two controllers with CPaks plugged in.

[quasi storm]

What kind of tests did you run?

[wanton sun]

i think it was super fast 🙂

[quasi storm]

And FPGAzumspass knows a thing or two about fast...

[surreal summit]

Run San Francisco Rush 2049 with one CPak inserted, insert second CPak "hot".

[ebon oyster]

He gives Jimmy Johns a run for the title "Freaky Fast".

[quasi storm]

Did you go to the create player menu?

That's where I saw the funky chicken occur.

I'm fairly certain that a retail gave wouldn't ship with a bug like that, but you never know...

[surreal summit]

Yeah, able to create a player on both CPaks.

[wanton sun]

could be related to the pif emulation being way too fast currently. The pif is super slow, but i don't do that currently

need to check at some point, but given it works with one, there are like 100 higher priority issues currently 🙂 still good to know for the future

[quasi storm]

Better make sure you have all the puzzle pieces before you try to fit them all together...

[wanton sun]

(maybe some day we get low level pif emulation using the original pif cpu and firmware)

there is a project to rebuilt the pif using a microcontroller, so i don't see why we coulnd't have it in the fpga. It's just a lot of work

[quasi storm]

What is the core doing with it currently?

[wanton sun]

controllers and paks would then communicate with the pif in the exact same format as snac

currently the core is kind of high level emulating pif commands

so e.g. getting controller responses takes a single clock cycle instead of multiple microseconds like the real communication e.g. via snac costs

[quasi storm]

I thought button presses seemed a little snappier on the core... N64 was the first console where I actually noticed input delay.

[wanton sun]

games are not busy waiting for the PIF usually like psx games waited for controller feedback, but still it can have influence

[wicked granite]

I would not bother with low level emulating PIF for now. If the fast response is a problem, you could just delay the response even with the HLE implementation you already have. I would go for more render modes - not that i am biased 😄

[wanton sun]

your name already tells you are biased 😛

did anyone got rumble with the NSO working with bluetooth? i only get it to rumble via cable

[hot spoke]

@viscid nebula @native mesa Thanks for all your help. I was able to get things up & running using the update_all script and also editing the downloader.ini file. I didn't try everything, but Mariokart, wave race and OoT Master Quest did boot up for me.

[heady mason]

OoT Master Quest boots now without using savestates? I try to keep up, but this thread is moving FAST 😄

[wanton sun]

master quest is working for quite a while already

it has some very rare hangs and the final cutscene hangs if you don't patch the game

[chilly ember]

I went through regular oot Gamecube version and I didn't have a single crash or hang

[heady mason]

Seemed to just have a black screen last I tried, but that might have been before I got the config files working and such.

Hmm, and I think last I tried was before all the updates you made this weekend 🙂 I am a bit behind

[viscid gate]

Yes, in the PSX core

[wanton sun]

strange, doesn't work with mine. Maybe i'm still on some old kernel?

[viscid gate]

I am using the newer Linux img with the updated nso drivers posted the other week

[wanton sun]

mine if from 30th august, is there a newer one?

Changed to the newest unstable nightly and it works now also via bluetooth 🙂

[quaint pewter]

Will rumble be concurrent with cpak, or will it disable/remove the cpak when it's activated? 🙂

There was some discussion last night about how that worked, and if it was a hardware limitation to have one or the other and that both was not possible at the same time.

[odd vector]

I dont think that there exists a game that uses both at the same time

The question is, if the Tpak, Cpak and Rpak are hot swappable

[quaint pewter]

I mean in the sense of the core. With an actual console you can't put them both in the controller at the same time, so it's a matter of it's physically impossible. Will the core need a toggle for them, to decide what is "inserted"?

[odd vector]

And also if there is enough bandwidth at the controller port to write the data and send rumble data

An all in one pak

[chilly ember]

There is the tremor pak for N64, a third party rumble Pak that allow you to plug in a controller Pak to it but it used a physical switch to switch between controller Pak and rumble.

[daring meteor]

Considering the cpak is already togglable - If it isn't hotswappable I will eat my mister

[chilly ember]

I don't care if there is a hybrid, a dedicated button to switch is authentic

[daring meteor]

The problem was the games themselves I think

[wanton sun]

it's hotswap at runtime. I don't see how they could work at the same time, as the game just reads 32 bytes from the port and decides what to do depending on the response

[vapid hawk]

there is a handy little miscellaneous button on the top of the nso we could map to this

[daring meteor]

Use the Select button

[wanton sun]

yes, there might be a button for it in future. For now it's select in osd

[versed cairn]

I have a combo rumble and memory pak, but you need to switch a button to change between the two modes

[quaint pewter]

That makes it clear. Data in from the controller port tells the machine what is inserted. So you have an option to "insert" what you want from the osd 🙂

[versed cairn]

Yeah swap button would be perfect

[chilly ember]

That would be awesome, it makes sense Imo :D. It saves alot of time

Every loading screen with its insert controller Pak, insert rumble Pak screen

[vapid hawk]

yeah exactly

[wanton sun]

it's not just a button, you would also either have a button combo to switch or if it's toggle, you must print something on screen, ... so more work

e.g. i would prefer combo, but the next one cannot remember the combo

[vapid hawk]

yeah thats fair this is very low importance

[chilly ember]

I won't be upset if it isn't implemented, it just would be so much more
Convenient

[odd vector]

@wanton sun sounds like the toggle issue with analog/digital in PSX Core 🙂

[versed cairn]

It’s def a “cool to have but don’t need”

[wanton sun]

exactly and i still remember how much pain that was

in the end we got all solutions at the same time and ...no i will not do that again

[daring meteor]

Agree

[dusty tusk]

Unfortunately the n64 isn't a dreamcast controller where you can have two paks plugged in at once

[daring meteor]

Xbox controller

(Speaking of, still don't know how to map mine to N64)

[chilly ember]

Mod a controller port to USB and reap the benefits

Hahhahahahhahahahaha (on pc anyways)

[odd vector]

Makes sense, especially if it is that complicated to implement. Let's see what you come up with, if it's a menu thing.
You could also probably also hand it over to the N64 Database if the game uses Rpak or Cpak since it's either way an OR thing 🙂

[daring meteor]

That's already done I think

[vapid hawk]

there's no single ideal way to map the n64 pad to a 4 button pad really

[wanton sun]

also it's more options than just 2: we have non, cpak and rumble and later hopefully transfer pak also, so having it in osd makes more sense and is also clear for the user

[quaint pewter]

If there are four options then START+DPAD would cover all four from any controller. But OSD is absolutely fine too

[chilly ember]

Nobody is switching from transfer Pak to cpak/rumble Pak in pokemon stadium tho?

[wanton sun]

if someone comes up with a pull request that solves all these problems, i take it. But i spend too much time in psx to optimize the dualshock switch and that was only two options, i rather develop on more important things

[odd vector]

agree 100%

[versed cairn]

Would have been cool if Nintendo aloud saving to controller 2 while you had rumble in 1

[chilly ember]

I have no skills in the matter so I have absolutely no quarrels

[vapid hawk]

yeah this can all be done by someone else later, after all the actually important stuff is implemented 🙂

[quaint pewter]

This is just brainstorming... The hardware implementation is much more important 🙂

[daring meteor]

Also

We have rumble? 👀

[chilly ember]

No

[odd vector]

the community demands the unicorn pak

[vapid hawk]

at least with n64 we don't have like, 200 different official controllers to do

[odd vector]

none, cpak, tpak, rpak all in one without switching

[versed cairn]

Yeah, pak it up

[daring meteor]

What would we do without the DDG64 controller

[quaint pewter]

schrodinger's pak

[chilly ember]

Transfer Pak is so extra Imo but I welcome it with open arms

[daring meteor]

Or the Nintendo 64 NJS-3D1 - Oh wait

[chilly ember]

I'm curious how it will end up working

[vapid hawk]

we forgot the hey-you-pikachu pak

[versed cairn]

Oh my the mic

[chilly ember]

Nobody cares about port 4 hey you pikachu microphone

[quaint pewter]

Could the mic go into the tape-in socket that computer cores use? lol

[vapid hawk]

maybe we can just pipe in the mic from the dualshock or something

i'm joking btw

[chilly ember]

Famicom snac

[wanton sun]

transfer pak would be way more important to me than rumble. It opens up to play more games, while rumble...is just rumble

[vapid hawk]

you kinda need rumble to finish oot

[odd vector]

how many games do support the tpak?

I just know from Pokemon Stadium

[final walrus]

I can mail you one, should arrive quickly since I’m in Berlin. I don’t need it back

[vapid hawk]

mario golf and mario tennis are the other two i think

[wanton sun]

if "we" means that i have it and you don't have it, then the answer is yes 😛

[daring meteor]

Knew it

Hahahaha

[versed cairn]

There’s also technically a Nintendo mouse and keyboard. But I think that’s for like, 1 game

[odd vector]

Starfox 64 Test inc. RRRRRRRRRRRRRumble

[quick arch]

Super Mario 64 shindou version with rumble 🙂

[final walrus]

Mouse is useful for Mario artist and I think StarCraft if you patch it? Keyboard just for Randnet mail & web stuff

[chrome quest]

Just curious, is this rumble via Xinput controllers, or something that might work with a Rumble Pak? Excited to try whatever it is!

[wanton sun]

i spend probably hundreds of hours with the combination of pokemon stadium and red. It was such a pleasure 🙂

[odd vector]

Yes, it was a far better experience at the TV 😄

[wanton sun]

most of the time theorycrafting....it was the time before internet for me, so i had to do my "poke-wiki" on paper

[quick arch]

Perfect Dark, Mario Tenis and Mario Golf also use TPAK

[odd vector]

MEW!

[dusty tusk]

What's the current plan for transfer packs? Possibility to share saves amongst gameboy core?

[odd vector]

and Missingno ^^

[dusty tusk]

Checking all the weird stuff you could unlock by beating stadium a zillion times was great

[wanton sun]

currently the transfer pak is out of reach. It requires exact pif and rsp timing to even work, so i need to postpone it

[dusty tusk]

ah well, you'll proably still implement something faster than nintendo

[odd vector]

if you still want to enjoy pkmn -> gb/gba core 😄

[dusty tusk]

I gotta get seaside pikachu, you just don't understand 😠

[wanton sun]

my plan is to see that the game is stable with snac-transferpak first. Once that works, emulated transferpak could be done

[dusty tusk]

dope

[odd vector]

makes sense

[versed cairn]

Omg using my childhood Pokémon red would be so rad

[odd vector]

i wish I still had it

[dusty tusk]

my battery has long since died

[wanton sun]

get them while they are still available. I bought one copy of Pokemon Rot recently and...well, it costed more than the gameboy color i also bought to test it works

[odd vector]

I have my fully boxed Pokemon Feuerrot still in my drawer ❤️

[quaint pewter]

I still have my Pokemon Yellow but don't have a snax or a transfer pak lol

[odd vector]

my original transfer pak is still in an moving box in the cellar. The n64 did not survive but the tpak

[chilly ember]

I've got a transfer Pak but only an official copy of gold

What if a everdrive Gb is used?

Would that be possible?

[quaint rune]

You could play gameboy games on your tv through the 64 transfer pack ? 😮

[wanton sun]

the tpaks are reported to be very fragile, causing loss of your save game if you are unlucky. I never had that with the one i had 20 years ago, but the used one i bought some months ago has it...it's annoying, i wouldn't trust it to really play the game

[chilly ember]

You can with heavy hacks to Pokemon stadium

But it won't be stable

[quaint rune]

Oh so not officially like the super game boy adaptor for snes ?

[chilly ember]

Not at all

Just a Pokemon gameboy adapter basically

[dusty tusk]

I think I big issue was that the contacts and especially the lock in mechanism get worn out quickly due to constant switching in some games, and also the paks were freaking huge

[quaint rune]

The YouTuber I watched was wrong then 😂

[chrome quest]

Stadium 1/2 do need to load in the whole ROM too, nothing of them on the N64 cart. Can take quite a while with Crystal, and it hangs often in gameplay if it needs to get a new map data and such

[chilly ember]

I have two transfer Paks but never tried with my gold version on everdrive, I have fond memories of playing red on Pokemon stadium 1 with red tho as a child

[hollow rune]

I would not have guessed the rom needed to be loaded. That is a surprise

[chilly ember]

A non snac/rom implementation to transfer pak would be sick because I really do not want to connect real carts to a mister and hope for the best

Also because so many of these original carts have dead batteries :p. I need to replace mine on my gold cart

Real cart would be amazing with snac but that's not how I would prefer to use transfer Pak

I don't care if rumble Pak or transfer gets implented either. Tlb so for Goldeneye and conkers bad fur day and the core is complete for me 😂😝

If it comes down to transfer pak or tlb, tlb all the way

If there isn't enough space and we can get rid of rumble and transfer Pak

Tlb

Tlb everyday

[oblique remnant]

Hard desicion 😆

[chilly ember]

If the core only ran tlb games, I would be happy

[oblique remnant]

Im not that much into pokemon so a no brainer 4me

[quaint pewter]

TLB and TPAK both sound difficult, for various reasons of timing or complexity

[wanton sun]

well the comparison is not really fair in terms of effort and ressources. It's like saying: for christmas please no socks, i rather want a car

[chilly ember]

I know :p

I hope we have a bootable game by Christmas tho

That would be sick

[wanton sun]

yes, imagine we could play one game on christmas. It would feel like when i got the n64 on christmas. I also had only one game 🙂

[chilly ember]

What game was that?

[wanton sun]

Mario64, it was bundled

[quaint pewter]

We have already been spoilt beyond belief 🙂

[wanton sun]

also i didn't care about the n64 at that point, i just played mario64 in the eletronics store that was what i wanted. If it would have been on the ps1, i would have taken it

[chilly ember]

I was too young to get mario 64 for Christmas but it was a game that has been burned into my brain by always being there at a young age

I love it, I got a Ps1, brother had the N64

[quaint pewter]

I was too old to get Mario64 for Christmas lol

[chilly ember]

I would have been 1 and a half

[odd vector]

First working game on N64 core right for christmas! 😄

[quaint pewter]

My first computer was a ZX81 and my first console was Atari 2600 that tells you how ancient I am 🙂

[chilly ember]

I had older siblings and grand parents with an intellivision so I got to experience the times before time but other than that

I grew up with Ps1 and n64

I got a Gamecube in 2002 as my first official own console and I played it over coaxial on channel 3 on a wood grain tv

[hot spoke]

GC was the first new in box console I bought with my own money on launch day.

[chilly ember]

I begged for a Gamecube for Christmas and got super mario sunshine with it

[hot spoke]

Before that, I bought a used N64 off ebay in college. It was my first ever ebay purchase and console I bought. I just wanted to play OoT.

I think the only game I bought on launch of GC was rogue leader. I played the demo so many times at a local Best Buy during college.

[chilly ember]

I got animal crossing shortly after and that was my main game for the system for a year

Shortly after 2002 :p

This discord server makes me feel young lol

Is everyone here old here? xD

[mild ether]

I got a Sega Master System with Choplifter and Rambo for Christmas. It was the best thing ever and I still have it.

[dusty tusk]

Didn't play own an N64 until the tail end of the ps2 generation. Cousin got bored of it and just gave it to me. Ended up going to game stop and pawn, loading up on cheap games like the banjo series and others. Mofo begged his mom to let my mom sell it back to him at a reduced rate. Still mad

[mild ether]

Don't care if NES was more popular in the US the SMS was great.

[chilly ember]

I never seen a master system in my life

🇨🇦

[mild ether]

Oh, Canadian. Sorry

[chilly ember]

I hardly ever saw a dreamcast either tho

I still bought a Japanese model and stuck a gdemu and noctua fan in it and I love it

Recently

[dusty tusk]

I only saw dreamcasts at toys r us. Very colorful boxarts, can't wait for the dreamcast core 😛

redream has terrible input lag, it suuuuucks

[mild ether]

Dreamcast was good while it lasted. I bought one when it was new but just didn't last that long in the market.

Dreamcast core is coming shortly after the PS2 and Xbox core I hear.

[eternal ravine]

Before SMS, there was...

[chilly ember]

I heard there was a Sega dreamcast 2 core from my uncle at Sega with loads of unreleased games that works perfectly on mister but I'm not allowed to say anything

[eternal ravine]

NAOMI 2 is a thing
That whole arcade setup gets messy, though

[mild ether]

Still never seen one in person.

Wanted to get one of those setups for my arcade with the netdimm but they are getting really pricey these days.

[eternal ravine]

I never took the plunge into arcade HW, thankfully

[hearty oar]

As an absolute Dreamcast nut I’ve always wanted one (a Naomi), but yeah it’s a steep investment…

[mild ether]

It's an expensive and addictive hobby.

And a lot of work.

[little socket]

Years ago you could get them for <200...

[eternal ravine]

But some people who were smart are sitting on lots of money now with their arcade collections

[chilly ember]

In my Japanese model for cheap but it wasn't marked as a v1 or whatever

It's a very easy console to disassemble tho

It's basic af

[eternal ravine]

Remove the GD-ROM, affix GD-EMU

[chilly ember]

Very basic

[eternal ravine]

Back in the day, Saturn modchips were niiiice and easy

And cheap

But of questionable quality

[hearty oar]

My unmodified PAL Saturn is sad, seems hard to get region mods these days, at least here in Aus

Dreamcast is so nice because of how trivial it is to get everything you need - a GDemu clone and VGA box

[eternal ravine]

Saturns are cheap on EBAY rn, like $80 for JP unit

[mild ether]

They know the core is coming and dumping that old stock!

[hearty oar]

Yeah, I’m now in the wait for MiSTer core cycle though, especially after today’s update it really seems like it will become a totally useable thing

[eternal ravine]

But it probably won't have Video Card capability

Not that it's a big loss

But Lunar does look nice with bigger videos

[hearty oar]

I think I can live without that lol

[mild ether]

How will we watch VCDs? 😱

[eternal ravine]

Yeah it seems like a VCD player core could be fun

[chilly ember]

There's a converter for vcd to work with psx

But it's very involved

[eternal ravine]

And one PSX revision supported VCD out of the box

[mild ether]

Go through my binders of CDs and find all my TS screeners from 20 years ago and rip them down to iso again to watch on the core.

[eternal ravine]

My DVD sets of The Simpsons look so much better on a CRT than on an HDTV

[mild ether]

Some good audience participation in some of them.

[chilly ember]

You have discs? That's intense

I have my dvd's burned for swap magic for ps2

Somewhere

[eternal ravine]

I used to re-author DVDs and burn discs without all the menus and whatnot
Just the best bitrate movie + audio tracks
Now I buy actual Blurays and have to sit through dumbass previews, menus, etc

[chilly ember]

Is that the old Ps1 geezer club that you got such a reaction from?

I got shrek on vhs

[loud pebble]

When I have a wander through my old dvd collection the dumbass previews and menus are what Im most interested in.

[chilly ember]

You wouldn't download a car

[hearty oar]

For some reason the clickable bricks to enter Diagonal Alley on the Harry Potter dvd always stuck with me

[chilly ember]

Apparently September 19 is talk like a pirate day

[eternal ravine]

@loud pebble
Bluray "making of" features are great, but the menus and previews for newer movies annoy me

[mild ether]

a TS screener is a pirated movie someone got on a camcorder in a theater so sometime you get audience participation in the form of people walking in front of the camera and such.

Yar!

[chilly ember]

Sounds like how I first watched hot fuzz

[eternal ravine]

Ye need plenty of media for those long nights at sea

[loud pebble]

Someone start a dvd player core thread quick!

[daring meteor]

New N64 build and nobody said anything in 5 minutes?

Prepostorous

[chilly ember]

Hf

Rumble

Guess it's 8bitdo kit test time

[daring meteor]

Works for me but switching seems to be finnicky

I think games expect an empty slot on switch Cpak->Rumble, but not sure

[silent marten]

Only insert rumble pak when the game tells you to do so and then wait a few seconds after switching

[daring meteor]

Alright

[silent marten]

I won't be able to test it till later as I got a job interview today so I gotta get ready for that 😦

[daring meteor]

Good luck

[silent marten]

Thank you bro 🙂

[kind solar]

Rumbly

[vagrant ivy]

Remember Do you want to Supersize the meal and offer a drink !

Good luck

[hollow rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uKIeamPi2Y

[silent marten]

Thank you everyone 🙂

[chilly ember]

Nothing working for rumble on 8bitdo kit, does it require different main mister build?

[silent marten]

It shouldn't do, does it rumble in PSX or GBC/GBA core?

[chilly ember]

Good question, I never tried it on anything other than N64 core. I'll try Duke nukem fmv on psx core

[silent marten]

I think X/Y on main is a rumble test

[chilly ember]

Nothing for me

Gotta go to bed tho, hope there's a solution later :p

[silent marten]

That is odd, sleep well

[chilly ember]

Rumble is not my Forte lol

[silent marten]

If you have another controller that you can try (Xbox/PS) see if that rumbles and then you will know if it is the kit or not

[lament escarp]

The 8bitdo n64 modkit? You need the nso driver from #test-builds message, put it in switch mode, pair it and it should work, does for me.

Worth mentioning though the driver isn't quiet there yet, so it doesn't reinitialize the controller properly after disconnecting and you have to pair it again.

[worn delta]

Oh nice, Rumble Pak is here!

Is it automatically enabled for games that have it set in the database .txt?

[heady mason]

I had a Sega Master System, it had some great games. Best version of Batman Returns in my book. We also had The Ottifants and Mickey Mouse in Land of Illusion, played through all of them several times. I did not really see it as especially interesting back when we bought it, I already had a C64, but I ended up playing on it quite a bit. Played through Land of Illusion and Batman Returns several times each.

[chilly ember]

Tried the update, didn't have any luck. Might just be too tired and doing things completely wrong. Tested a ds4 on psx core

Probably just being tired and dumb lol

Will try it later today after some sleep

[lament escarp]

Don't forget to hard reboot after inserting the file

[chilly ember]

Put directly on to SD card from pc so that's not the issue

[hasty kayak]

Yes do not do it via SSH or FTP... Mine refused to boot when I did it that way

[chilly ember]

I'll play with it tomorrow lol

[hasty kayak]

Go directly to your SD Card

[chilly ember]

Yes I physically took the sd card out of the mister to transfer files

[mortal panther]

I didn't have any problems transferring via FTP through WinSCP. Delete the original file first, copy over the new one, disconnect and cold reboot MiSTer... the same way I handle unstable MiSTer main binaries.

[terse canyon]

rumble working fine here using 8bitdo sn30 pro on starfox, they may have controller on wrong mode

[chilly ember]

Possible, I did use the switch on back and remapped tho

Anyways, I'm going to bed. There's bound to be someone with an answer later 😂, if not I'll figure out what I fucked up

Only gif I'll post

[hasty kayak]

8BitDo N64 Mod Kit has to be in Switch Mode for Rumble to work??!

[pure sail]

Amazing rumble working on my 8BitDo Pro2 Wired gamepad tested with Wipeout64. (Interestingly the same gamepad does NOT work with the PSX core rumble, I think because it doesn't get picked up as a DualShock? anyway that discussion is for another forum)

[quaint pewter]

Has anyone tried playing Mystery Dungeon Shiren and had a working save file? It says it's saving, but then it won't load up next time. I have cpak inserted and formated before I played. It's using 256kbit sram too as well as cpak so I don't know what it's using for the journal 1 and 2 but it just says there is a problem with them when you load it up again.

[quick arch]

Super Mario 64 Shindou Edition, the rumble pak works 🙂

[hasty kayak]

To answer my own question. Yes you do need to have the N64 8BitDo Mod Kit in Switch Mode.

[fading mist]

I'm using the Reflex Adapt with my original N64 and rumblepak. Controller works flawlessly just can't get rumble to work with the latest core. When I switch the controller to Rumble in OSD games will not run. But when I toggle back to None games will boot again

[native mesa]

Would you say it was a ... pak .. in game?

Thanks for giving us the stone of agony

[hasty kayak]

Ok I have found an ANNOYING issue since putting my N64 8BitDo Mod Kit in Switch mode...

Now when I fire up my MiSTer, then fire up my controller and the light shows its connected... Nothing works on the Main Menu.....

I have to then re-pair the Controller for it to work!

But upon another reboot / shut down and start up of the MiSTer... the Controller appears to connect again but the buttons do nothing on the main menu! Guessing some kind of issue with MiSTer Main?

For now I am going to run in non Switch mode and put up with no Rumble because this will drive me insane having to keep re-pairing the controller everytime I fire up my MiSTer or it won't work.... 😦

[fallen sparrow]

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!

[worn delta]

Rumble working in 1080 🙂

That's playing really nice now, bringing back some very fond memories...

[zinc dew]

Holy shit rumble!!!

[worn delta]

So you do need to go in and enable it for the Pak in controller 1 (or whatever ones you are using if you have friends, which lets face it, none of us do in the Flesh World)

[limber willow]

Is there a work around in Mission Impossible, when you jump on the truck in the first level, the driver doesn't drive it through the gate?

[worn delta]

I'm still catching up, has Robert said once kinks are ironed out will it auto turn on Rumble Pak or CPak based off of the .txt DB entry for the rom?

[native mesa]

I doubt it

[worn delta]

How so? The data is in there

[native mesa]

The OSD menu is equivalent to plugging it into the controller

[worn delta]

Well if you are going down that route of original experience, Rumble Paks lived in all our controllers except when we needed to remove for a CPak or Transfer Pak, which is quite rare as biggest games generally didn't use those

[native mesa]

Then turn it on and save those settings

I kept the memory card plugged in mostly

The rumble pak weighed the controller down and ate batteries

[worn delta]

Will see what Robert says, if it is possible to dynamic switch based off of the game that would be great. Likely needs some rules like if entry has CPak and Rumble Pak, CPak takes priority

[native mesa]

I think that would be a bad user experience honestly. The game shouldn't determine what pak to use. The user should

[worn delta]

That's funny, I find Rumble Pak gave controller a nice bit of weight, I don't like using controller without it even if the game doesn't use it

Well we'll have to agree to disagree there

I think it would be a much better user experience if it were possible for games that need CPak to save to default to having that enabled, and for games that used Rumble to default to being on

[zinc dew]

The challenge is that a ton of games handle both and ask the user to swap.

[slate sundial]

Mario 64 without noface patch still crashes for me, but all the YouTube fellas show it working in-game now. What am I doing wrong?

(I'm using latest core and unstable MiSTer nightly)

[daring meteor]

You're not using the noface patch

[zinc dew]

Did you patch your rom with the patch linked in the pins?

[slate sundial]

yes, the noface patch works for me

but the regular "with face" ROM won't load

but I saw a YToober showing Mario with face...

[worn delta]

-just a quick confirmation, does the latest unstable nightly people are using (presumably for Saturn) include all the N64 code that was merged into Main a few days back?

[zinc dew]

Unfortunately the colloquial name of the patch is confusing. “No face” refers to the large Mario face you can tinker with before the game reaches the load save menu.

That uses a currently unsupported hardware feature which causes the game to crash.

[lament escarp]

Yeah this has been known for some time. Appearently a lot of 3rd party switch n64 controllers have issues.

[zinc dew]

So when you’re applying the “No face” patch, you’re not removing the Mario face texture from the in-game model. You’re just bypassing that interactive Mario face as part of the intro menu flow.

[slate sundial]

this, highlighted, works for me

this, highlighted, crashes for me

[zinc dew]

That is expected and correct.

[slate sundial]

aaaahhhhhh

gotcha

thanks bud

[remote hatch]

The truth is: Mario has an ugly face , that's why it doesn't work 😛

ban for face

[zinc dew]

My pleasure! Glad you’re enjoying this wonderful core with us. 🍻

[wanton sun]

no, it's a user choise what to insert. E.g. i mostly don't want a rumble pak even if the game supports it, so autoinsert would be really bad. The only thing i can imagine is autoinsert cpak when a game supports it. However, i just saved the config with cpak in slot1 and i'm done for 99% of the cases...

[slate sundial]

every day lol

[daring meteor]

Is the cpak/rpak in System settings than useless?

[wanton sun]

rumble is currently useless. cpak determines if it's saved to sdcard

[daring meteor]

Ah, got it

[slate sundial]

gah, now I get "autodetect failed" which I never got on this ROM before.

Do I need to update with that .txt list regularly?

[wanton sun]

i never update it...

more likely it's broken than out of date (or just missing)

[slate sundial]

Mario no face used to work for me, all I've changed is latest core and latest mister unstable, weird

[wanton sun]

the list contains all official releases. So unless you want some advanced homebrew that has savegames or large mods, it will cover all cases right now

mario no face doesn't even need the list

[quaint pewter]

are save sizes in the database in Kbytes or Kbits? Shiren is definately not saving. Before I thought it was because of lack of cpak, but that is only to back up your data. Shiren is 256kbit save, and the saves are disappearing even if you don't quit and reload. If you get to the village and suspend the game from the cstick menu, it goes back to the title and says the saves 1 and 2 have disappeared.

[wanton sun]

look in system settings if cic is 6102

[slate sundial]

it's 6106, I'll try 6102 now

[quaint pewter]

That means the data isn't being held in memory at all?

[slate sundial]

works!

[zinc dew]

Not sure if you saw my message earlier but games also support both and have prompts for the player to swap controller pak and rumble.

Maybe waaaaay down the line there could be a toggle you could map to swap both automatically without opening the menu but even then, I don’t think that idea would really be any better then just having the user go into the menu.

The menu is kind of fun anyways. It’s like you’re manually swapping between the two with a real system, haha.

[wanton sun]

yes, we discussed this earlier: with a button you need to solve more problems like: do an overlay to show what is currently active? what if you only want to remove and not switch? should a be a toggle or button combo?

[zinc dew]

Exactly

[wanton sun]

overall it's a UI thing that needs finetuning.For me the current solution is fine, but I'm open to anyone implementing it and doing those finetunings. I accept any pull request the handles it well with pleasure

[zinc dew]

I’m so excited to try out rumble. Thank you.

Do you push the motors 100% when rumble is activated?

[wanton sun]

yes, n64 only knows on and off

at least on the NSO pad this seems good, not too strong

games seem to pulse it

[zinc dew]

haha yessss

The original rumble pak is ridiculous. Very strong motor.

[hasty kayak]

With the 8BitDoModkit it felt good 🙂 But I will switch back to not using Nintendo Switch mode because MiSTer Main has an issue with it.

[compact skiff]

Hopefully there will be a way to adjust the max rumble in the future.

[thorn iris]

It’s a bit weak on GameCube controllers but welcome nonetheless.

[worn delta]

Rumble on SN30pro wired worked well on 1080, not too over powering

[zinc dew]

Oh shit, @desert crow does this mean rumble paks and controller paks can work with SNAC now??

[viscid nebula]

Alright which of you did this

Cmon, it had to be one of you

[zinc dew]

I do that with MiSTer all the time. But like at restaurants and jewelery stores

[viscid nebula]

[zinc dew]

I order a side dish and when it comes I tell them “you know if this was a MiSTer this would’ve come out faster because it’s lag free”

[viscid nebula]

They don’t even know I own a mister, these poor idiots

[zinc dew]

I look at Diamond rings and necklaces at the jewelers and I go ”are these real? You know with a MiSTer you always know it’s real because it’s not emulation it’s hardware recreated at the subatomic level”

[viscid nebula]

It’s like sometimes I’m on the phone with customer service and I’ll be thinking “she doesn’t even know I made starfox ex”

[zinc dew]

This is my entire apparel:

[hasty kayak]

I want one of those FPGA T-Shirts 🙂

I like that

[zinc dew]

Oh this isn’t #general-banter I’m sorry for being off topic lmao