Nintendo 64

[cerulean elk]

the REAL core we need!

[topaz otter]

They used the stargate

[little socket]

Until they do not notice that they are using yen values with non yen currency for their calculations

[brisk drum]

You mean the fargate ..

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-teen-hunger-force-oglethorpe-what-do-we-look-like-nerds-gif-22706862

[cerulean elk]

nobody in here is a nerd. I dont hang out with nerds

we are all the "cool kids"...right? RIGHT??

[quasi storm]

To @cerulean elk (claps and squeezes your shoulder with a solumn expression)

[mild ether]

When you say "REAL" you know exactly what core we really need.

[cerulean elk]

BUT I OWN A PC-FX!!!!

and I make videos on FPGA's. Thats like the coolest thing someone can do 😆

[mild ether]

3DO is desperately in need of a core. I understand people want to keep the best for last but it's in high demand.

[cerulean elk]

the people demand 3DO

MiSTer is garbage till it plays Killing Time

[zinc dew]

I don’t

[quasi storm]

(watches awbacon's pocket protector nearly fall out of his pocket as he jumps up and down in anger and indignation)

[zinc dew]

virtual boy

[cerulean elk]

lol my life makes no sense. Was a coach at the Olympics. Now I do gaming YT. My cool meter swings hard in each direction

[quasi storm]

Don't worry @cerulean elk. It's just as James Rolfe once said, " Were all nerds."

[mild ether]

Curling coach?

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew I need a custom role. King Nerd

[mild ether]

women's beach volleyball?

[left depot]

What is this Shinzou version of SM64 I'm hearing about and does it work yet? Any English translation or need to check it out?

[cerulean elk]

lolol. Freestyle skiing

[mild ether]

Awe, the dream was better but that is still pretty awesome.

[quasi storm]

HHORSEback riding.

[zinc dew]

lol nope

[cerulean elk]

you arent fun

[quasi storm]

Dang, you transitioned really quick from denial to acceptance...

[cerulean elk]

everyone...make me mod and Ill give everyone custom roles. Then I will ignore modding because I havent the time and I really dont want it. Just the roles

[quasi storm]

I DARE you to place an @ in front of that everyone. Triple dog dare you.

[azure thunder]

that is probably turned off for peon roles

or at least i hope

[quasi storm]

Care to test that theory?

[cerulean elk]

oh I am sure it is lol

[topaz otter]

Make him assistant trailer park supervisor lol

[azure thunder]

@quasi storm no lol

[cerulean elk]

this is how Robby mods

[quasi storm]

How will we know if we never test it?

[azure tide]

Just saw the mister main update in the news section. Does that mean we no longer need to have unstable main for the n64 core to work?

[zinc dew]

I believe so, give it a test

[quasi storm]

Does it include the controller fixes? Last time I updated, they were lost.

[zinc dew]

Maybe, give it a test

[quasi storm]

The head was off screen, so I thought that was bert Kreisher before I scrolled up.

[cerulean elk]

there. Custom title mod

[viscid nebula]

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1702505382969593856/pu/vid/avc1/348x270/8p_Xvh2m1GS0FzuH.mp4?tag=12

Starfox 16x4

Super alpha

[cerulean elk]

What dis?

[viscid nebula]

Something one of my starfox ex teammates is working on

Possibly remaking starfox in sm64

Long way to go

There’s some similarities with the path and strat structures though

[zealous hull]

God I love the romhacking scene.

[weary beacon]

still no booting of F-Zero X. Anyone knows what the issue could be? I have the latest rbf, latest mister main update from today, the bios and a normal USA.z64 rom.

[zinc dew]

@viscid nebula so he’s making Star Fox for the N64?

[mortal panther]

Mod Bod

[zinc dew]

Oh 100% 😂

[viscid nebula]

trying

I don't have my fingers in this yet but I may be willing to learn some C if he gets far enough

so far this was all done in like 2 days

all because I asked him to mod kaze's split screen coop for my kids

I opened a damn pandoras box

[drowsy lantern]

The N64-database.txt file is missing from your list.

[weary beacon]

where do i get that and where do i put it?

[remote hatch]

https://vampier.net/N64/

[cerulean elk]

Pins. Vampier website

Or do what @remote hatch said lol

[plush summit]

Damn new MiSTer main contains both N64 Database and Reflex Adapt changes 😎

[mortal panther]

Awesome... I mean, if you like that sort of stuff. 😉

[zinc dew]

I do, I do!

[daring meteor]

Finally, no more telling people to use unstable

[cerulean elk]

Hurray

[viscid gate]

@lone geyser Would it be possible to get an updated build of MiSTer main with the controller range changes for N64 - I presume those aren’t merged yet?

[lilac scroll]

Shit wait can I just download the core rbf now without switching to unstable??

[remote hatch]

you can

[lilac scroll]

Perfect timing considering my reflex adapter and 8bitdo kit just delivered this week

[remote hatch]

update your MiSTer and rule the world

[lilac scroll]

Debate now is whether is whether I leave the used n64 controllers I got wired after tearing them apart and cleaning them

Leaning towards yes, just installing the new Hall effect stick

But not sure if the cables are in good shape. Will see

[old iris]

please tell me, the patched rom of super mario 64 does not save progress, what should I do to make the saves work?

[blazing heath]

Does the NOS controller work, i cant get z or c buttons to work properly

[zinc dew]

It does save progress, make sure you have the latest N64-database.txt file

[old iris]

Do you need to change anything in the save type settings? I have none set there

[zinc dew]

The txt file sets that information

[old iris]

Ok

[zinc dew]

Do you have autosave in the core options set to on?

[old iris]

Yes

[zinc dew]

Do that and make sure you press the menu button after getting a star

It should say “saving” or something like that

[old iris]

I did all this but couldn’t save it. I update the kernel using a script, database.txt should be automatically updated

[drowsy lantern]

I saw that the N64-database.txt file was updated today, however it's still missing save types for the non-original versions of Sin & Punishment:

Original, has eeprom512:

171459f1b0e0654b6e00e32b29055f1d ntsc|cic6102|eeprom512|rpak # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha

Derivatives, no save type set:

90185d481bcab776add87b0300348a7c ntsc|cic6102|rpak # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha
357102a9d0e74060692510d66ddda3d1 ntsc|cic6102 # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha (Ch) (iQue)
9c41f0eb1babd3c7db018d7c0c899828 ntsc|cic6102|rpak # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha (Fandub)

[fair stump]

So it's definitely fine to update all now? The joystick scaling stuff isn't included in this, right?

[worn delta]

I suspect the other translated versions are in a similar situation with having missing/wrong save type set, be good to get these all checked and amended

As of today we no longer need unstable Main, which is great the N64 stuff has been merged in already 🙂

[median vale]

Love Randy

[cerulean elk]

Old Randy Bobandy

[limber willow]

The Chinese F-Zero works perfectly

[worn delta]

Vampier can remove the downloading and swapping to unstable Main now

[weary beacon]

thanks that was it

[worn delta]

Hopefully this, and the boot roms being in BISO getter, solves a lot of people's set up problems

[weary beacon]

works now. was missing the txt database

[knotty zealot]

and then he'll remove and swap you!

[worn delta]

Hopefully soon the .txt will be downloaded by the update script as well so will be much more smooth sailing for people getting set up properly

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-seagal-gif-24950979

[median vale]

I have 4x OG N64 controllers and a USB hub - anyone have any recommendations for hooking the 4 controllers up to the MiSTer?

[zinc dew]

N64 SNAX when @graceful radish releases it

[worn delta]

Feel free to go back to sleep BasketCase and we'll wake you up when Goldeneye is playable

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/goldeneye-007-james-bond-n64-gif-27532309

[worn delta]

Or when Norway qualify for the Euros, which ever happens first... 😉

[zinc dew]

Goldeneye is basically a @knotty zealot simulator

[knotty zealot]

oh my god. the savageness!

we have the best striker bro

[hot spoke]

I'm ready for the first 4 player session 😬

[worn delta]

We have the worst strikers from all the countries who qualified last time, yet are on 15 points... 🙂

[graceful radish]

What Robby said, or 2x Reflex Adapt since the SNAX64 will require an IO board 🙂

[drowsy lantern]

Any confirmation on whether the joystick scaling is now part of latest main?

[dull flume]

Hey all, just wanted to make sure: there's no color direct video through S-Video for the N64 core at the moment right? Obviously getting color over hdmi but it's all black and white on my CRT at the moment.

[knotty zealot]

we have a new jewel. debuted against jordan and then scored after 10 minutes and started against georgia a few days ago. antonio nusa. he'll probably go to premier league.

[viscid nebula]

we need a user maintained n64-database

[zinc dew]

Users will be able to add their own

[viscid nebula]

yeah but for each user to have to add each game? how about they add to the community repo

and people can all enjoy their additions

[zinc dew]

No because that will make playing your hacks easier

[viscid nebula]

[mortal panther]

That essentially is the user-maintained database... if the submissions are accepted.

[zinc dew]

lol

[zinc dew]

Where’s the kando n64 hacks, I want stunt race fx 64

[worn delta]

Will keep a tab on him, could use someone who can actually score at BVB. Shocking start to the season.

[zinc dew]

Are you talking about European Football?

Which is different from real Football that’s played in the US

[left depot]

Normal. Check with MikeS for TC build of the core

YC

[inner bronze]

The one played with your hands?

Handball

Handkickball

[zinc dew]

sorry, I don’t make the rules, just follow em

[viscid nebula]

do you though?

[zinc dew]

sorry just don’t rules the follow, just make I the em

[orchid nimbus]

@zinc dew are you ok? Are you ok @zinc dew ?

[mild ether]

Curling Bond?

[compact skiff]

What's the reason for using the first 4096 bytes of the ROM for the MD5 hash? Is it to allow slight variations to the ROM to match the database?

[viscid nebula]

I think its for simplicitys sake

also possibly that yeah

[compact skiff]

So, you could apply a ROM hack and it would still match the hash?

[viscid nebula]

if the first 4096 bytes are untouched technically yeah

[craggy kettle]

I like the Raphnet ones, https://www.raphnet-tech.com/products/dual_n64_to_usb_adapter/index.php

[mild ether]

The NOP fix for the CRC check is in the first 4096 bytes. 😔

[viscid nebula]

oof

[lone geyser]

I'll get to it today

[craggy kettle]

Does the update_all script update to the latest mister core that was released today? I just ran it, but my controller is still WAAAAAY wider than the OG N64 controller

and I thought the latest mister core incorporated that fix

[viscid nebula]

my controller is still WAAAAAY wider than the OG N64 controller
soak it in cold water?

[craggy kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/rimshot-pun-joke-ba-dum-tss-drum-gif-15808941

[viscid nebula]

🤣

sorry couldn't help myself

that was my fear with using the official update though

thanks for taking one for the team

[craggy kettle]

I live to serve

though I lack confidence it really updated to the latest core, I'm gonna do a manual download to remove my doubt

[viscid nebula]

well if it worked with n64-database it was the latest

I think this is the first official one to implement that

[craggy kettle]

?

[weary palm]

Here's a MiSTer binary with @lone geyser's PR applied for people who want to live on the edge. https://github.com/MiSTer-unstable-nightlies/Main_MiSTer/pull/1

[worn delta]

Is the controller thing part of an unstable linux rather than main?

[viscid nebula]

yxkalle mvp

lemonici mvp

[craggy kettle]

I have teh n64-database.txt file, but how does the latest mister core interact with it?

[viscid nebula]

without n64-database.txt support, games like diddy kong racing and pokemon snap will not boot at all

[lone geyser]

@viscid gate NVM. I don't feel all too compelled to help anymore

[mortal panther]

Unless you set the correct settings manually.

[lone geyser]

markun MVP+

[viscid nebula]

markun mvp!

[craggy kettle]

oooh, I see I was so used to it working with the unstable nightly that I didn't even stop to think about that 😆

[viscid nebula]

yeah that was how I found out I needed mister unstable, I was like why is everyone's diddy kong racing workign and not mine

🤣

[lone geyser]

This one has the new main changes, yeah?

[quick arch]

@lone geyser do you think it is possible to have your clamp code on MiSter Main with an option to be activated by the mister.ini so we can activate it just for N64 core ?

[lone geyser]

It already only applies clamp to N64

[quick arch]

Great to hear

[lone geyser]

That's kind of the problem, it's always checking if it's in the N64 core every single time the input loops in every core 😅

[viscid nebula]

hey if it works it works

[quick arch]

Maybe using Mister.ini could be more elegant way to do it

[viscid nebula]

you should see how many checks are done everywhere in starfox ex even if an option is turned off 😅

I'm a "it works so it works" guy

[maiden wyvern]

Story of main

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[lone geyser]

The elegant way is to see if the scale and clamp could fit into the core (I'm confident Simple64's variant can) and then only handle special controllers like NSO N64 in main

[vague sun]

I got the clamp once.

Oh, we are talking about N64.

[lone geyser]

https://youtu.be/8bw2X1oq_js?feature=shared

[quick arch]

I see thanks yes if it is on the core it could be great

[weary palm]

Yes it's the latest nightly with your branch applied

I have some issues with drift on my PS2 controller.

[dense wagon]

meanwhile... im hatching a plan to open a controller in the lab while plugged in to get some voltage measurements so i can maybe add a hardware mod haha

[zenith orchid]

I'm tempted to update to the latest MiSTer build, but it sounds like the N64 clamp and scale isn't in it

[lone geyser]

Scroll up a little. Yxkalle already applied the clamp and scale to the latest unstable

[compact skiff]

When I use @lone geyser's custom MiSTer binary, my controller still gets to full throttle at about the 50% position on the stick. It doesn't exceed that value when I pass 50%, but it's still very touchy when trying to do any slight movements (e.g. walking in SM64). I can confirm this in controllertest. I still get the octogon shape, so the clamping is working.

[zenith orchid]

Oh thank goodness, someone really ought to pin that build

Oh I might have been confused, it says the PR is from a few days back, so I wasn't sure if that means the build is older than the one that just dropped

[craggy kettle]

When you grab a new mister core like that, is there a way to transfer it using ftp? I've tried a couple of times and it results in the mister not booting. I have to turn off the mister and transfer it by plugging the sd card into my computer manually.

[lone geyser]

fenderc1, Does it feel that way on the diagonal?

[hollow rune]

Filezilla works for me

[quasi storm]

Whatever program You're using, make sure the transfer mode is set to binary.

[compact skiff]

I'll have to check when I get home from work. I'm just reporting how it was for me yesterday. I'm assuming you didn't change any code since then.

[quasi storm]

If you've been using it for awhile, I'm surprised you haven't run into issue sooner, if that is indeed the case.

[craggy kettle]

ah maybe that's it, I'm usuing filezilla and it's set to auto

[quasi storm]

Yep. Binary or bust.

[weary palm]

Is there a need for some software deadzoning?

[lone geyser]

Main does deadzoning already

[orchid nimbus]

thats sounds up my alley

[weary palm]

Oh? What am I doing wrong then?

How do I activate it

[orchid nimbus]

if you would have a script that would do stuff for you - would you use it?

[craggy kettle]

like your very useful N64_Update_All?

I do have it... and depends on my mood 😆

[orchid nimbus]

eventually it will be in update_ALL

[mortal panther]

Update_All 64

[lone geyser]

Update_Alltra64

[craggy kettle]

I do have update_All as well, I like it, but I have mixed feelings. It's very useful, but at the same time it will blindly grab everything I set. So let say I run it once to get it set up, and then decide there are 20 cores I don't actually need and delete it. The next time I run it all of those cores come right back. The solution is I need to be better about using mgl files and create menu options with just the cores I want, but I'm a work in progress

[craggy kettle]

To yxkalle's point about is software deadzoning needed, here's my controller's results using the current mister build released today, verses the one with deadzoning

note that my range is so wide that it circles from the left side of the screen back to the right

[mortal panther]

Wow. What controller is that??

[lone geyser]

Basically all of them, but that's not deadzoning exactly

[craggy kettle]

Nexigo's Hall effect controller for the switch

it's a good controller, but in zelda I'm going at a full run about half way through the range it feels like

[weary palm]

It's hard to hit the corners exactly if your controller has a circular gate

[graceful radish]

It has a range only a mother could love

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[lone geyser]

There's a live sandbox mode in that controller benchmark you can just sweep around in a circle to get the true shape

[stuck summit]

Test with Mario 64. I'm getting the same results from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZBsV6dExZc&t=5m23s

at 5:23

[craggy kettle]

just pulled up OoT and did that first little bridge run to get the blue rupee, before the path I was full sending myself off the bridge thinking, "Man I thought I would be better at this than when I was a kid" now I can actually run across the bridges with no issue

I haven't done the face patch, is that still necessary for SM64?

[stuck summit]

Yeah

[zenith orchid]

Yeah the face screen requires a feature that won't be implemented until way later, so you need the patch to skip that screen

[craggy kettle]

I wonder if that's also the thing that Silicon Valley uses for the energy ball sprites

[stuck summit]

As far as I understand, if it was then you can be sure that it'd crash the game lol

[craggy kettle]

ah, not the same thing then

[stuck summit]

yeah, it's some memory/CPU thing. The sprite issue is probably just some missing function from the graphics rendering portion

[cerulean elk]

I’ll jinx it for everyone else’s benefit but I’ve been so productive on OTHER videos since we haven’t seen a new core in a few days 🤣

[mild ether]

Rumor has it a video about a legendary arcade fighter is coming out tomorrow.

[orchid nimbus]

N64-database.txt updated

[craggy kettle]

huh, the patcher isn't working for me on SM64

[native mesa]

Source

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/Builds/DataBase_20230915_2.txt (standard blah blah rename / case sensitive or use the update_n64 script)

[zenith orchid]

are we just blurting out random words here? 😄

[cerulean elk]

lol eh?

[orchid nimbus]

anyone wonder what the next update will hold?

[craggy kettle]

always

[mortal panther]

Sound fixes, hopefully.

...or just general RSP fixes.

[zenith orchid]

Either more tweaks and clean ups to the code, or maybe taking care of remaining transparency and text issues

I have a feeling he might be blocked with the stability issues on OoT and SM64 as they don't seem easy to reproduce consistently

[quaint pewter]

I know it probably won't be controller pack, but one can dream 🙂

To my knowledge he hasn't even emulatoed it yet.

[zenith orchid]

I remember initially he was focused on SM64 and MK64, and then later OoT. Not sure what he's focused on now in terms of specific games. I think he's waiting on flash saving.

[orchid nimbus]

but it's currently potatoed!

[quaint pewter]

LOL

[mild ether]

Really interested to find out what is causing that bug with OOT and SM64. Sounds like something is corrupting what is supposed to be stored in a register.

[craggy kettle]

Finally got the patch to work, I had to get an entirely different version of the ROM. With the deadzone mister core it works near perfectly

he might start to run just before I reach the full range, but it's so close it's almost imperceptible

[quaint pewter]

Got my This is not the greatest controller in the world, this is just a Tribute64 the other day. Man... that dpad placement. lol

[orchid nimbus]

I like the tribute64

until you use the dpad in the mister menu

was the dpad on the n64 also bad?

otherwise it's a solid controller

[craggy kettle]

What's up with the dpad? I have the tribute, but haven't unboxed it yet

[hasty kayak]

It wasn't great.

[lone geyser]

Location location location

[hasty kayak]

Very spongy feeling

[quaint pewter]

It's a bit awkwardly placed

[weary palm]

Hori clone

[native mesa]

Mario Party

[craggy kettle]

I have the wireless versio I think

[hasty kayak]

I have the Wireless Grey Version of that for my N64

Not a bad controller. I also have the Brawler 64 the same as @cerulean elk does

[native mesa]

I think I prefer the centered dpad

[hasty kayak]

Yeah I like it too @native mesa

Its a very "Xbox" thing to do as well 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

what the heck

[native mesa]

Were you both small?

[zenith orchid]

Is that so?

[hasty kayak]

Both run over during Lightning?

[zenith orchid]

I definitly think this is a better design than the tribute/hori, though I'd probably prefer the start button to be lower

[weary palm]

Whomp'd

[zenith orchid]

not a deal breaker though

[cerulean elk]

so far the Brawler is great

[stuck summit]

The N64 D-pad is the exact same part as the SNES controller. The Tribute's one is really awful, it registers a ton of false inputs. But not a big deal since very few games use it for anything

[native mesa]

Maybe the same mold but it's definitely a different plastic and tactile feeo

[hasty kayak]

To me it feels different to the SNES D-Pad. I like the way the SNES D-Pad feels.

[stuck summit]

It's the same mold, but maybe the plastic is different? idk. I know people usually recommend harvesting N64 d-pads to fix old SNES controllers, since the parts fit perfectly, and N64 d-pads will usually have seen very little use

[compact skiff]

Do you have the USB version? It's rated 1 star lower than the N64 port version on Amazon.

[hasty kayak]

Possibly the way the Membrane Pads feel? to me the N64 D-PAD feels a bit mushy.

Spongy

[lone geyser]

@graceful radish does the Adapt handle Saturn 3D? I think I'm gonna pull the trigger and use it for N64

I'm aware of the disparity in shoulder buttons but I can always map one to dpad up in certain games

[orchid nimbus]

Wow - well it’s all good - it wasn’t too expensive

[stuck summit]

Yeah, honestly it's a great controller. I have two in fact, I do love it. The d-pad being bad isn't a big deal for N64 games

the buttons feel great and the stick is really nice, I also like the aesthetic a lot.

[graceful radish]

You bet it does

[zenith orchid]

Man I'm really looking forward to that SNAC64 thing

It looks like it could be the one SNAC solution to rule them all

[worn delta]

Just had a thought, although we don't have rumble Pak support yet, and assuming we get it, could the no battery rumble pack mods work over snac or could there be issues with drawing too much power?

[craggy kettle]

SNAC is the one reason I'm thinking about getting the digital IO board

[native mesa]

I thought the snac port was on the de-10 itself. What benefit is the digital board

[craggy kettle]

My limited understanding was that the SNAC usb port was on the digital/analog io board itself

whenever I look at them they say "Must use Digital verion x.x or analog board x.x"

[native mesa]

Oh yeah maybe. You don't have any IO board?

[craggy kettle]

nope

[native mesa]

Is it even really a mister at that point? Lol

[craggy kettle]

I don't have a crt so I don't need an analog board

lol

technically the mini-b port might be the same as the snac/x since it's just a uart port? I honestly don't know and am reading up trying to figure it out

[zealous hull]

Does anybody here know roughly how often Oudini restocks Steel Sticks?

[graceful radish]

It’s not the same thing

[graceful radish]

I need to test a little bit but I added 2 3V3 regulators on SNAX64 to handle extra current. I would need to measure the total draw and also remember this is going through a USB cable with a single 5V line. I presume it will work well enough.

[hollow pebble]

Sorry if this has been discussed, but with new main today does that mean we don't need unstable for the N64 core anymore?

Thank you @zealous hull

and @zinc dew

[craggy kettle]

yes, and if you want the controller deadband than someone was kind enough to already apply that patch to the latest mister core as well #1096015979055697940 message

[graceful radish]

And the n64 user database if you care

[visual forge]

Damn, dudes, after having played quite a bit of Mario 64 on my mister (on a crt) I wanted to try the 60 fps PC port

It has horrible input lag!

[zenith orchid]

That someone is very kind indeed

[visual forge]

Mister is now the only way to play this game

[hollow pebble]

damn guys, you da best ❤️

thanks

[craggy kettle]

curious, clicking on the link doesn't quite get me to the message I was trying to link to, just scroll up a bit from there

or now it does? I don't know discord is funny sometimes

[devout leaf]

I’m back from surgery but can’t play yet. Anything big happen this week?

[visual forge]

PC ports arent the future of N64, mister is

[zenith orchid]

I thought the PC port is supposed to be native. I wonder if the port itself is the cause of the input lag

[visual forge]

I think it's simply the nature of modern games

[orchid nimbus]

why can't we have self calibrating cores? if the stick goes beyond what is expected it should scale down and limit the upper limit.

set an average starting range

and then go from there

it would solve all problems

or include it in the stick setup

[craggy kettle]

that would have to be done on a per core basis, right?

[orchid nimbus]

yes

not many cores have analogue stick support

for consoles that is

[viscid nebula]

can you map snes mouse to an analogue stick?

[worn delta]

Nice, good to know. I did read on original hardware using one controller with this type of mod was fine but with 4 at once there are issues

[lone geyser]

Excellent, now I just need to wait for it to come back in stock 😅

[stuck summit]

I got it for the cool little LED lights

[orchid nimbus]

the next release will include TLB/24bit graphics (no more banding) / cheats / RDP & RSP fixes and will bump compatibility up to 98% and wide screen support

[viscid nebula]

sussy

[pallid falcon]

So no release until Christmas?

2024

[fair stump]

The last 2% is vivid dolls

[pallid falcon]

Vivid Dolls will be the only game to require dual SDRAM, as it is so good

[orchid nimbus]

no more love for -Quest64-

[fair stump]

New meme game is in town

[zenith orchid]

Oh man, I'm loving playing N64 games in widescreen! I never imagined as a kid that this was possible

if -Quest64- gets a widescreen hack, I might try it

[silent marten]

Other than controller pak the game works damn well now

[orchid nimbus]

yup

[lament escarp]

So, you guys honestly think -quest64- or aidyn chronicles is worse? Don't lie. I can tell.

[zinc dew]

Aidyn Chronicles is worse

Quest 64 is best

[zenith orchid]

starshot is such a quirky game, but it has its charm, especially with wide screen

[zinc dew]

How widescreen

[fair stump]

I had never heard of that game until I tested it. Is it any good? I kinda has a nice look

[compact depot]

Are those wide stretched tits? 🤔

[zenith orchid]

It's not great, but it does look nice

[zenith orchid]

here, just for you

[compact depot]

Ewww

[zenith orchid]

🤣🤣🤣

[zenith orchid]

Probably would have been worth a rental, visually nice, but not great

DK64 also looks great in widescreen, but the audio thing kinda kills it for me

I'm testing TWINE now

I think someone said it goes in game

blank screen though

[mortal apex]

I'm repairing my OEM controllers with kitsch-bent parts, they way comfier when the sticks aren't broken. Almost gave myself a nintendo thumb with the broken ones 🤣
I've some good results, the only problem I have is that some controllers have a small offset for one axis so I don't think I get the full range in game.

Like it goes from -76 to +90 horizontally, I'm wondering if anyone had the same issue.

[hollow rune]

AC looks dreary

[lament escarp]

It does, doesn't it? This only means I could be the one tester to 100% it, because nobody else would dare to play it that much.

[zenith orchid]

I'm about to give it a try. Could you do one for F-Zero and DKR? 😄🤞

[rapid prairie]

Do I get one of these n64 switch online controllers? Or hold out for reflex? I have 4 OG n64 controllers, 2 are still in decent shape with great sticks…

[vapid hawk]

i'd probably get 2 reflexes

or reflex+snax

[hexed knot]

Anyone tried a bunch of 8bitdo receivers at once? Was thinking about going that route for 4 players, but wasn't sure if it was a viable option.

[carmine kettle]

it works with blueretro receiver and 8bitdo diy controller d-input mode only for bluetooth.

[stuck summit]

new build alert

[elfin depot]

The NSO suffer from typical bluetooth latency. The Reflex with OG controllers is going to have less latency so if you don't mind being wired, tis the way to go IMO

[wanton sun]

the problem is to get original controllers with good status

[elfin depot]

Rebuild-a-palooza 🙂

[wanton sun]

maybe for some it's ok to repair them or exchange parts, but i have 2 left hands and i'm happy if i could get it open

[cerulean elk]

I have one NOS N64 chilling out in my closet. Might be time to take it out of the box

[elfin depot]

In Canada just getting the NSO controllers was a chore, scalpers buying them up so its a trade-off I guess

[cerulean elk]

Although my two gen purpose N64 controllers are pretty fresh

[wanton sun]

yes, the NSO are expensive...but honestly i would pay the same amount for a original controller in that good shape, but i cannot just buy from ebay, no matter which price, they are always bad

[dreamy ridge]

i'm usually a first-party purist when it comes to controllers but i have to say this core feels VERY good playing with a PS5 controller

[wanton sun]

did anyone test yet if the stick on the NSO is mario party safe? or does it also wear out?

[rapid prairie]

I’m currently playing with a Dualsense as well. It’s my go to mister controller these days despite having like 20 controllers…(runs and hides from the pitchfork mob)

[zenith orchid]

I wanted to test TWINE in widescreen since it is an option in the game menu, but I wasn't able to get in game

[wanton sun]

newest build?

[waxen lodge]

I believe the NSO controllers are using the exact same design, so they will wear out eventually as well

[stuck summit]

From disassembles it looks like the same plastic gears from the OG stick, so susceptible to the same kind of wear

[zenith orchid]

ah, did you merge terminator's widescreen toggle? 😮

[wanton sun]

no, but the game was only fixed today, so it wasn't working before

[zenith orchid]

I'll give it a try

[wanton sun]

can't see any difference when i select widescreen in the options, resolution stays the same and also FOV

just don't use high-color...it's 32bit rendering and that still has "issues" to say it nice

[zenith orchid]

the FOV doesn't change? thats strange

I've tested widescreen in starshot and DK64 and it does change the FOV

[wanton sun]

no idea what this game does

[zenith orchid]

the FOV definitely changes for me

[safe robin]

After Mario party 1 they tried to reduce the mini games where you have to spin the analog stick like crazy, that's why I like Mario party 2 the most of the three

[zenith orchid]

@wanton sun

[languid dune]

Both Saturn and N64 in the same day again!? What is this maddness!

[zenith orchid]

in widescreen the picture is skinnier

and there's a gap between the man on the right and the edge of the screen

[wanton sun]

you are right, i was loading a savestate which messed something up so it wasn't working there

tried it again from fresh boot and it works

[grave garnet]

i thought savestates didn't work yet

[zenith orchid]

I haven't tried banjo tooie yet, but it also has an ingame widescreen mode

[wanton sun]

only my own savestates created from my emulator work and the compatibility is medium

[drowsy lantern]

weeps in @cerulean elk

[quick arch]

Bangaioh doesn't seem to hang anymore but I have new graphical issues not present on the previous test build

[zenith orchid]

is it playable? 😮

[quick arch]

yes

[wanton sun]

so in previous build it looked fine, but hang?

[quick arch]

yes

[wanton sun]

random hang or reproducible?

[quick arch]

reproducible

it happens very quickly after start game

[fair stump]

I believe the intro splash screens to monster truck madness regressed but I don't know if that's worth looking at

[cerulean elk]

Lol I’ll manage somehow

[quick arch]

this screen was fine before now the head on the left is missing

[zinc dew]

Build pin updated

[wanton sun]

very important, thank you. Will take a look tomorrow. The current build should have no visual impact and i can clearly see it. Will take a look tomorrow

[languid dune]

Kirby is looking good now! Dark Matter has finally been defeated so we can see Kirby in all his glory.

[zenith orchid]

so far I'm not getting hangs in SM64, anyone else on this?

spoke too soon

lol oh well

[wanton sun]

rsp bug in sm64, waverace and others is not fixed

[languid dune]

KI Gold is seeing some interesting changes. When a match is about to start, the "Ready" text is all distorted now, where it wasn't before. I also got further into a match than before. Still crashes right away, but I was able to move my invisible character with a shadow briefly before it crashed.

[knotty zealot]

is that the bug where the graphics are ugly?

[mortal panther]

No. That part is normal behavior.

[wanton sun]

yes, the preparation for dual texturing broke some games. I have two examples now i will fix tomorrow

[wanton sun]

thank you can reproduce it

[zenith orchid]

Kirby is so much fun 😍

[zinc dew]

Kirby is for children and you should feel bad liking it

[languid dune]

The right and left arrows above the buoys in Wave Race 64 don't blink correctly anymore. They're supposed to flash white, but they flash black now.

[wanton sun]

if anyone wants to try: i got a E00100 freeze after the first boss in kirby. If this is reproducible it would be great

[languid dune]

But Kirby is a fat baby! You love fat baby games!

[zinc dew]

He is the ultimate fat baby

[zenith orchid]

I'll be honest, those are some of my all time favorite games, especially the music

[wanton sun]

the game saved by autosave after the boss so i could not retry

[knotty zealot]

when are you going to ramp up discussion about castlevania 64

and how it's the magnum opus of 3d platforming

[zinc dew]

When the game is playable. Trust me I’m hyped for that.

[knotty zealot]

sotn? gtfo

[mortal panther]

Overrated

[zinc dew]

Finally I can stop doing SotN runs and then start doing Castlevania 64 runs.

[waxen lodge]

Mario 64 seems to be just about locked at 30fps now, top of Whomp's Fortress and Jolly Roger Bay used to lag a lot, and not seeing any now

[wanton sun]

there should be no performance change in this build

[languid dune]

Actually never mind about the blinking arrows in Wave Race 64. It still isn't correct, but I just checked the previous core build and it was a problem there as well, so it's not a new issue that started with this build.

[devout leaf]

Castlevania 64 is cool but I prefer Bloodborne 64.

[wanton sun]

was this ever correct?

[zenith orchid]

are you sure you aren't playing the patched rom?

[languid dune]

I don't think so. I only just realized it today.

[zinc dew]

way to go @languid dune

[zenith orchid]

I'm just so excited about TWINE and Kirby

HM64 still unchanged, other than the text is cleaner since the build that cleaned the text in brian64

[wanton sun]

there should be no graphic improvements in this build. best case some hangs fixed

[zenith orchid]

yeah I'm mainly checking if the hangs in HM64 still occur. they might be the same RSP issue as SM64 and OoT

[wanton sun]

if it has error flag 100 set or one of the upper 5, most likely

[languid dune]

Just checked an even older build from a couple weeks ago, and yeah the arrows flash black there as well, so I don't think it was ever correct. Surprised I only just noticed it today! They should flash white instead.

[zenith orchid]

yep, just got a hang in HM64

[cerulean elk]

So Kirby, Twine, Disney Tetris…what else new is working?

[zenith orchid]

E880400

[cerulean elk]

Chat scrolls so fast haha

Bangai O

[knotty zealot]

goldeneye works

i'm sitting in the toilet in facility right now

[cerulean elk]

Lol for real or? Cause I wanna call bullshit lol

[fair stump]

[cerulean elk]

It’s for a capture list. So don’t screw me 🤣

Read notes. Goldeneye my ass

[zenith orchid]

Yep, that one fix magically made the fully functional TLB appear

[quick arch]

I'm not sure if it is new but Puyo Puyo 4 goes in game
With graphical issues

[cerulean elk]

Lol

[orchid nimbus]

update_n64 can be run

[zenith orchid]

I'm keeping both the previous and the current one, to check regressions

[languid dune]

Big difference with the text in Killer Instinct Gold.

This is what it looked like in previous builds.

The shadows and the fire in the background are also more distorted looking in the new build.

[knotty zealot]

ewww, broken pixels. RERUN

[wanton sun]

better wait with the capture until the draw bug is fixed 😉

[knotty zealot]

robert, when are you gonna fix the toilet?

facility needs repairs

[cerulean elk]

Lol you know I like to iterate and show examples side by side

[knotty zealot]

toilet fix before christmas #believe

[wanton sun]

showing a regression is pretty pointless if i fix it tomorrow morning 😛

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/snoogs-goldeneye64-n64-nintendo-gif-19210791

"hand over the ram"

[cerulean elk]

I don’t really have any plans for regression coverage on cores moving forward. My average viewer doesn’t even get what they are

[zinc dew]

IT'S YOU!

[dreamy ridge]

i'm crouching and c-spinning on the toilet to pop back up into the vent

[knotty zealot]

i was patrolling the ship when i was overtaken

[languid dune]

So cool to see Bangai-O working now without crashing right away once you get in game. But yeah, the new visual bugs are really noticable.

[fair stump]

C-spinning

[cerulean elk]

Mmm bugs. Always fun to talk about them show them gone in the next shot

[languid dune]

Just run a 20 minute video showing Kirby 64!

[cerulean elk]

The buggier the image the better contrast in the next clip

[daring meteor]

Castlevania is

Unfourtenatly

[cerulean elk]

Finally Kirby! @wanton sun for tomorrow what bugs you fixing? So I can make sure to showcase the improvements

[daring meteor]

A (partial) TLB game

[tropic sand]

Probably the same regression... Beetle racing....

[wanton sun]

the stuff that broke today, haha

[grave garnet]

blah opened the door in mario64 to the boat level freeze. even with the magical no freeze patch! man that first level played perfectly

[zenith orchid]

Is it just me or is the cursor glitchy in pokemon puzzle league now?

[cerulean elk]

Haha ahh. Well it’ll probably just be a “new working games” showcase 🙂 so I won’t probably see those bugs

Unless Mario lost eyes again. I do love me some eyeless Mario! (I’m sure he still has eyes)

[wanton sun]

there are likely plenty of new graphic glitches now. Just ignore them until tomorrow, i will fix them most likely

[cerulean elk]

Sounds good

[daring meteor]

Waiting for no face patch but it removes in game

[cerulean elk]

Also please add in extra eyes for Kirby. I like him better with a four pack

[zenith orchid]

Okay, good thing I saved the previous build, pokemon puzzle league is no longer playable

[cerulean elk]

I just want a Kirby made of nothing but eyes

[wanton sun]

have to leave for today. You don't need to ping me for graphic regressions, but if you find other games that work now, i would be happy. See you!

[rapid prairie]

“Grant us eyes!”

[quick arch]

@wanton sun I need to more in games to reproduce your issue on Kirby ?

[zealous hull]

It would even be lore-friendly too, tbh

[zenith orchid]

Gn Robert!

[fair stump]

I'm imagining Kirby swallowing a fly and it's not a pretty image

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah has anyone tried the 3 Broken games?

OOT non gc
Jet Force Gemini
WWF War zone

[wanton sun]

it happened in the cutscene after the first end boss (tree)

[zealous hull]

Whispy Woods. 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Every time Kirby swallows an enemy he gains their number of eyes

[hollow rune]

I would be willing to do a runthrought too

[languid dune]

Noticed that today's new MiSTer main stable update includes an N64 update about loading rom times. Do we still need unstable main, or does that stable update work now for everything N64?

[daring meteor]

Stable works now

[languid dune]

Like the database txt for example.

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun what was the black screen issue in Kirby?

[daring meteor]

Stable is just the latest unsable rn

[languid dune]

Once you got in game, it was just a black screen, even though you hear and control Kirby.

[zinc dew]

Fascinating the game seemingly ran but didn’t display anything.

[oblique remnant]

Mission Impossible shows Tom Cruise now 😄

[zinc dew]

Oh yeah, I mean like what was causing it.

[zinc dew]

Hooray???

[zealous hull]

I can post my 100% Kirby save file if anybody wants it?

[zenith orchid]

oh mission impossible also has a built in widescreen mode

[hollow rune]

I have tested world is not enough every build. Awesome it works now

[daring meteor]

Easiest game to test because it's the top N64 game

[zenith orchid]

Alright, I'm looking forward to tomorrow's build

[cerulean elk]

Lol heading to client meetings downtown and im here looking to hear about new games that work 🤣 maybe one day YT will pay enough to just do that

[zenith orchid]

other than those three new games that work, I only see more regressions.. let's wait for tomorrow's build

[languid dune]

Onto Saturn testing!

[zenith orchid]

@languid dune was it a significant change?

[languid dune]

Not sure yet. I need to test!

[daring meteor]

I'm guessing the final 3 engines still not working?

[remote hatch]

is worse than before

[orchid nimbus]

@remote hatch regression?

[regal prism]

oh my god it's the wiggles

[lone geyser]

It's the Giggles, actually

[remote hatch]

yes , few games stopped working

this is about Saturn of course 😄

let's not spam the channel here with this , sorry

[orchid nimbus]

ok

[quick arch]

I couldn't reproduce on my side I'm on the Level 2

[mortal apex]

Same, got an error 80000 during the fight but no crash. I tried three times @wanton sun

[zinc dew]

Kirby works now, what are the other two?

[oblique remnant]

Bangai-o shows progress but crashes after defeating first miniboss

[daring meteor]

007

[zenith orchid]

tetris

007 TWINE

[drowsy lantern]

Hate to hammer on this, but Sin & Punishment alternate roms still missing their save setting:

Original (eeprom512)
171459f1b0e0654b6e00e32b29055f1d ntsc|cic6102|eeprom512|rpak # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha

Alternates (missing eeprom512)
90185d481bcab776add87b0300348a7c ntsc|cic6102|rpak # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha
357102a9d0e74060692510d66ddda3d1 ntsc|cic6102 # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha (Ch) (iQue)
9c41f0eb1babd3c7db018d7c0c899828 ntsc|cic6102|rpak # Tsumi to Batsu - Hoshi no Keishousha (Fandub)

[zinc dew]

Weird, that one still hangs for me at the start

[knotty zealot]

that's what she said

[zenith orchid]

you sure you're using today's build?

[chrome quest]

007 TWINE PAL version certainly better. Attract mode no longer hangs, just messed around 1st level for a while and nothing wrong as far as I can tell

[zenith orchid]

but you're able to get to the title screen and main menu right?

[zinc dew]

Maybe a rom issue?

[zenith orchid]

could be

[nova grotto]

😢

[quick arch]

For Kirby, in start screen we can rewatch all cutscene it could help to reproduce the issue if you still have it on your side

[chrome quest]

That's also one of a few games where I get no Error display despite setting on. Is that common for the rest of us?

[daring meteor]

Start doesn't work?

[worn delta]

Might want to raise a ticket in GitHub repo for the .txt file and also suggest the other patched roms be checked so they match the original rom. If you are digging into the file, appreciate if you could check the Animal Forest one

[zinc dew]

Nah

[paper orchid]

oh noooo i just saw it

Another core released? and my boss gave me the rest of the day off?

[daring meteor]

START should work, weird

[chrome quest]

Between Build of 11th and todays, noticed some errors have changed.
A few "CPU Instruction not implemented" are gone

[marble cargo]

Puyo Puyo~n Party sort of works? Graphics are broken, but now you can play the game.

[daring meteor]

The 3 engines of doom still crash

[hexed knot]

kirby kirby kirby kirby kirby

[mortal panther]

Have you tried pressing Start, Robby? 😉

[paper orchid]

Mmm, TWINE hi-color mode

[orchid nimbus]

damn

[marble cargo]

So glad Kirby 64 is playable now.

[worn delta]

I went and fixed this, I'll let you know when it is merged into the main file

I'll check the other translation patched games in the HTGDB pack when I get a few and do the same there if any more need it

[orchid nimbus]

I can't believe I made to to page 2 on Yoshi's story

[hexed knot]

Aww, I was just gonna check that one.

Still art.

[drowsy lantern]

Someone earlier suggested that the Animal Forest english translation is missing from the database. I can't seem to find it either. In the HTGDB pack it's known as: "Animal Forest - Doubutsu no Mori (J) T-Eng Zoinkity 2010-12-02.z64"

[manic basin]

Kirby is legit the scariest creature in all of fiction, I think.

Just a ball of murder and consumption.

[manic basin]

Moopsy!

[orchid nimbus]

this game is so much fun

[worn delta]

I think it is under a different file name, there was another in there I fixed that was missing Animal Forest from the title

[manic basin]

Yeah, I think it was under doubutsu no mori.

[worn delta]

I'll do some other games once my pull request is approved and can confirm I did it correctly (first time I have done this on the project)

[chrome quest]

Goemon intro text alot better! Still crahes on gameplay though

[fair stump]

Kirby is the manifestation of capitalism

[craggy kettle]

eat the rich?

[manic basin]

That scene in Across the Spider-Verse was so good.

[mortal panther]

Kirby evolved

[manic basin]

This is factx.

[left depot]

Would I still be able to output to my crt and to my HDTV with a snax64?

[graceful radish]

Yeah it's totally indepenent of video output. You just need an IO board 🙂

[left depot]

Cool, are you planning 2 or 4 controller ports?

@graceful radish or both?

[sly wasp]

all info here: https://twitter.com/MisterAddons/status/1699263346250289334

[left depot]

Thanks!

[graceful radish]

Yeah, SNAX already supports 2P N64

SNAX64 adds support for P3 and P4

[viral portal]

What is SNAX64? Is it purchasable yet?

[left depot]

I wish it supported blissbox adapters for N64, but probably not?

[viral portal]

Ah, thanks

[rose elbow]

whats the best hack to play super mario 64 as vanilla as possible? vampier website has european/japanese version with no face but no usa version, and usa version has no face+level select?

us lodgenet version work okay for saving?

[left depot]

Actually I was looking into this today and settled on Japanese version as best if it is translated

But for the current core idk

[chrome quest]

@wanton sun Another working game.
Waialae Country Club - True Golf Classics (PAL)

[fair stump]

Oh does the USA version work? That's frozen up on the menu for forever

[hollow rune]

testing panda ACTIVATE

https://tenor.com/view/vorez-miraculous-ladybug-lucky-charm-lucky-charm-miraculous-lucky-charm-miraculous-ladybug-gif-23923643

[daring meteor]

Isn't it the same develeper as Pebble Beach

Yes it is lmao

[left depot]

Lol, wow thank you testing Panda!

[worn delta]

That should be in the .txt on GitHub now

[chrome quest]

Testing..... Yup, NTSC also playable. Added to the sheet

[weary palm]

Fixed 😉

[manic basin]

Miraculous.

[hollow rune]

All in a day's work. Who knows how many brainwashed moths have landed on various N64 games?

[manic basin]

Tangentially related, I JUST had to get the biggest crane fly I've ever seen out of my house. Like...just sat back down from ushering it out the door.

All bugs love N64.

[brisk drum]

Castlevania booting ?

[viral portal]

Are there any limitations? Obviously you can't test Transfer Pak ability yet (or can you?) but what about memory pak and rumble pak? Hey You! Pikachu voice module?

The core's still in its infancy so I dunno how much you've been able to plan ahead

[rocky spindle]

I think their last game at Konami was Super Castlevania IV.

Sin & Punishment 2 over RGB into a CRT is a transcendental experience. Easily a top 10 BOAT for me.

[quasi basalt]

Played through the boss fight a few times and couldn't reproduce. Got E08000 at the start, then E084000 a bit later on in the fight.

[left depot]

There's a sin and punishment 2? Do you mean the one on Wii?

[languid dune]

He's the star of the show!

[hollow rune]

I'm going in

[orchid nimbus]

I think it was Axelay

[left depot]

I've got bamboo snacks for you when you are done 👍

[languid dune]

That's what you think! But the reality is much different!

According to series director Shinya Kumazaki, enemies are not killed when Kirby inhales them; instead, they "poof" and are teleported elsewhere in the world.

[left depot]

I thought he said they were liquified??

[languid dune]

So he instead teleports them far away from their homes and family so they can die in isolation in a remote part of the world.

[dusty tusk]

Better than yoshi. Imagine being rebirthed

[languid dune]

And used as ammunition!

[nimble needle]

That’s like something I’d tell my 4 year old when the cat is eating the head off of a bird

[oblique remnant]

after that Bucky O'hare or Contra III

[hollow rune]

Can I have pizza instead?

[rocky spindle]

Ah, yeah. I always forget about that one because I don’t rate the gameplay that highly. It’s certainly a tech showcase though.

Definitely features their usual hallmarks.

[left depot]

Is that what's in your profile pic? I was trying to figure out what meal you are enjoying there

[lament escarp]

Are going to stream full play throughs of games for testing once the core is far enough to justify that kind of tests? Would be fun to watch. 🙂

[lament escarp]

But it's still missing the range fix for analog sticks isn't it?

[left depot]

@rocky spindle is s&p 2 better than the N64 game? Honestly I never gave many Wii games much of a chance

[rocky spindle]

The N64 game is spectacular. The sequel absolutely fucking takes the cake.

It looks current gen over a PVM at 60fps.

[left depot]

Oh man you are selling it right now 😅

[rocky spindle]

480i. Maximum possible fidelity for a game at that resolution, on that display tech.

It’s up there with like… GT4 and Metroid Prime.

[graceful radish]

Too early to tell but the N64 controller has exactly 1 data line. The other 2 controller pins are power and ground. SNAX64 should be able to support everything the core does without exception.

[left depot]

It uses the wiimote/motion control?

[rocky spindle]

Yes.

And it’s phenomenal.

Best game for Wii pointer control.

[left depot]

I'm one of the weird ones that prefers Metroid on GameCube.

But I will definitely check out this game now

[rocky spindle]

I do, because I can’t get my NTSC Wii playing the Trilogy over RGB.

Only Prime 3 works.

The first two games only output RGB on GCN/Nintendont.

[left depot]

That's... odd? Side note the remaster is sublime

[hollow rune]

This was the case for me @wanton sun

[rocky spindle]

Yeah. Again, on a CRT there’s not that much to separate them. Especially considering 60fps feels like it’s much smoother.

But yeah I love the remaster as well.

[hollow rune]

Definitely. For Aidyn Chronicles I need people to hangout with me. Goemon games I will runthrough on stream too with great happiness

[left depot]

Strange that people are so justifiably enamored with the first s&p yet I don't hear much about the second game despite it receiving a proper North American release

[daring meteor]

Ya

And so is unstable

[rocky spindle]

https://youtu.be/ZSe7vMxWOgc?si=81j5mmhNAxKgc7HX

Shove that down your eyeballs motherfuckers.

[hollow rune]

Got quite a bit further into Doom 64, but it still crashed

[lament escarp]

Dang it. The range fix is important enough for me not to update.

[left depot]

That game looks like it would be underwhelming on HDMI TV's but mind blowing on CRT... makes me actually want to play Wii

[daring meteor]

Yeah rn it's only in unofficial builds I think

[vapid hawk]

biohazard2 seems the same, crashes when you try to enter the stars office

[eternal ravine]

Everyone should have hacked Wii with full GC support
So much Nintendo on one console
Plus you can run VC stuff like the upscaled N64 games

And you can find component cables easily

Unlike the original GC ones

[left depot]

I do I just never clicked with the Wii era, less so with Wii U. I use it mostly for Nintendont

[eternal ravine]

MiSTer, DC, and Wii might be my three Desert Island devices

Nah, they would be a powerful NUC, Wii, MiSTer

[left depot]

I discovered DC pretty late in the game. As in five years ago. But boy was I missing out

[worn delta]

I've run through the .txt file and looks like all the localisation patches have settings that match the retail ROMs so hopefully no more issues there

[fair stump]

Mister, crt, solar generator 😄

[eternal ravine]

It's has a lot of arty 3D games
Good to have a DC
Just get better controllers than the pack-ins
They will cause stigmata

[left depot]

Not likely. TLB game

[vapid hawk]

wii is awesome but get one hdmi modified, it massively improves the IQ

on modern tv's anyway

[viral portal]

Improves IQ you say?

[eternal ravine]

I have an OSSC I use w/ component

[left depot]

They had terrible video out eh

[viral portal]

Does it improve it more than the Smart Water I buy at the store?

[vapid hawk]

yeah wii's normal video output is flawed in various ways, you can fix some of it just by softmodding it but to fully clean it up you need a hdmi mod

[left depot]

I've seen comparisons of component on GameCube that made me want to sell my hacked Wii plus my entire soul to get some expensive cables back in the day

[eternal ravine]

OK, my desert island devices are now: CDi, Jaguar, and Pico Beena

[left depot]

Good thing you won't have access to power

[eternal ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-sand-skywalker-anakin-skywalker-star-wars-gif-13723718

@vapid hawk
Do you lose the ability to use analog video for 240p?

[vapid hawk]

what was i talking about in here?

oh, wii, er no i think the analog video is untouched

its not fixed either, but its still there

the hdmi mod will also linedouble 240p to 480p for hdmi output for you

have you played the 360 version of goldeneye?

[rocky spindle]

Or the PC port of Perfect Dark? 😎

[vapid hawk]

the 360 port is amazing, criminal they never released it

[hollow rune]

So many games do this but what are the shadowy blotches that appear. I first noticed it in Banjo but 007 has it real bad. visible I. Chameleon Twist and Space Station too

[vapid hawk]

you're probably seeing the lack of multitexturing, or lack of dithering, or both

where do you keep track of the community patching efforts for it?

nice

when i played it through i think everything was fixed except one enemy model had a missing face

nice

[left depot]

Hey thanks I didn't know there were updates for Bean

[vapid hawk]

i like how you can play it with original looking graphics only at 60fps

[left depot]

The only way to play is with Xenia, yes?

[vapid hawk]

or a modded 360

[left depot]

Ah, that would be best I suppose

[whole zinc]

He’s releasing a new stick and bowl soon

[chrome quest]

No crash on PAL. Rebattled twice on PAL, and then on NTSC (save game loaded across both). No crashes.
E000800 as I first battled starting on New Game, became 080800 just after midway point.
Restarting the core and picking the fight from Load menu, No errors until 080000 at same midway point.

[vapid hawk]

having a modded 360 is insanely good value too lol, there's so many good games on it

[left depot]

Probably never should have sold mine

[versed cairn]

the second the store goes down next year I'm moding mine. no reason not to at that point

[vapid hawk]

i think i ended up putting like 300 titles on it or something

and that was heavily curated

the xbla stuff alone is ridiculous

[versed cairn]

the sega stuff is great. after burner climax, outrun, virtua fighter 2

the dreamcast games too

[elfin depot]

I got a $2 Xbox 360 COD edition at the thrift store, it had a burned DVD in the drive that the only thing on it is a .xex file, I assume it might be modded?

[chrome quest]

Completely different errors than I got. Out of curiosity, were those fights rematches with no copy abilities? Or did you have anything in particular. Wonder if that is something different, or maybe just random variance

[vapid hawk]

maybe? sorry i really don't know much about how the modding works

i got one off ebay and it basically just does whatever its told 😄

very reminiscent of a modded og xbox

[left depot]

Can all versions be modded? I liked the slim later revisions

[vapid hawk]

yeah mines a slim

you definitely want a later model, all the early ones are basically doomed by the bad intersposer thing

[left depot]

Getting a decent 360 controller is probably a pain in the ass at this point

[vapid hawk]

brook make an adapter to use a modern xbox pad on 360, its decent - https://www.brookaccessory.com/products/wingmanxb2/index.html

probably multitexturing, since todays build had prep for it

i think that fixes the sky in oot and the water temple etc

[versed cairn]

field ground too, deku tree. oot will get a HUGE boost.

I'm very excited

[vapid hawk]

only guessing ofc, rob does what he likes 🙂

and he's always right

[modest helm]

Wow. The core is in an amazing state. Have been swamped with work so haven't tested it since Namco Museum was the only game working.

Btw, anyone notice the analog stick is inaccurate in some games? Smash seems to be all over the place. Btw, using a DualSense

[left depot]

It's fun to watch him focus on one game but then fixes ripple over to other games

[vapid hawk]

the analog stick stuff is known, it needs changes in main mister to cap/clamp it

there's a build in pins for it

[daring meteor]

I have RGH Trinity 360

I don't know how Trinity Xbox stacks up

[vapid hawk]

think thats one of the later/ideal ones

[left depot]

I miss the blade UI

[vapid hawk]

i think you can actually reinstall it on a modded xbox

or possibly just something that looks a lot like it

[versed cairn]

trinity is really good

very stable and cool

[daring meteor]

I bought it when Coronas were available, I have no clue why they gave me a trinity

[quasi basalt]

I got those errors on the first fight. I did go back and replay the boss a few times and it didn't crash. Started a new save and got different error codes as well, E004800 & E084800

[orchid nimbus]

@quasi basalt https://vampier.net/N64/

you can look up errors here

top floating bar

[inner garden]

I have this game

[quasi basalt]

Yep I've been using it. I appreciate the easy way to look them up

[chrome quest]

So my Kirby turned on "One fo the DDR3 requesters wants to write or read outside of RDRAM" Due to Wispy Woods, otherwise nothing else, no crashes

[orchid nimbus]

np 🙂

[worldly quartz]

Oooh kirby boots

[orchid nimbus]

yup and plays

[chrome quest]

Perhaps the other difference are due to effects due to your copy abilities, or just how the battle went? I had Fire+Fire

[zinc dew]

Yah I updated the fully playable list with Kirby since that’s playable without any major issues and can save progress.

List here - #1096015979055697940 message

[manic basin]

Regipenquicide.... commence

[versed cairn]

That list is getting so long! Ya love to see it ❤️

[orchid nimbus]

The longer the better

[cerulean elk]

Kirby is the king slayer

[zenith orchid]

Didn't kirby hang after the first boss?

[languid dune]

He's more like a god slayer!

[cerulean elk]

Really it’s only like 10-15 till scientists discover the Big Bang was just Kirby belching after a particularly large meal

[zenith orchid]

And the end of time will be when he's hungry again

[languid dune]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-i-am-going-to-beat-you-to-death-menacing-malicious-i-know-where-you-live-gif-24057803

[cold pollen]

That's dark dude

[final knoll]

down with kirby.

[zenith orchid]

I'm so happy that Kirby is a playable game now

[zinc dew]

Kirby is a game for kids, real men play wave race

[fair stump]

Play extreme g and you'll wave goodbye to wave race

[final knoll]

just putting on my lycra and spandex to test some waves..

im a real man.

just signed up to PCN and VGE for a monthly subscription.. feeling really dirty right now to be honest...
thought i'd share just in case someone else is feeling equally disgusting.

[thick terrace]

hey all. What's new today? anything new boot?

[vapid ember]

NE1 have a more success with 8bitdo mod controller mod? I still cant seem to get C-up or C-Left to be assigned.

[final knoll]

waiting for it to arrive 😦
cant wait to have the same problems you are......

[vapid ember]

I'm sure someone will figure it out. Maybe its in the orginal mapping that needs fixing, prior to loading the Core to have it identify the VID/PID correctly

[hollow mist]

I had the same problem with my 8bitdo modded N64 controller (was working fine on my PC/Mac but 2 of the C buttons wouldn't register on the MiSTer. Yesterday I held down the menu/on/pair button for like 20 seconds, re-paired it and then using the main MiSTer controller assignment things just worked. I wish I knew why!!

[vapid ember]

I'm using it wired. I thought I'd have better luck that way. Maybe I'll try it wireless and see if anything changes.

[green drum]

Hello all, trying to make the N64 working, latest rbf , latest main mister, boot.rom+boot1.rom in place, it loads games but I end up with a black screen (mister single ram 128MB)...any advice...

[zinc dew]

Did you follow the FAQ? - https://vampier.net/N64

[green drum]

update_all done as well

[zinc dew]

You'll need a N64-database.txt file too

[marble cargo]

Put the N64-database.txt file in the same folder as where you put the Nintendo 64 games.

[green drum]

done, let me reboot the Mister in case...

[zinc dew]

most games won't work, check the pins for a link to a community managed spreadsheet that'll tell you what is working and what isn't

also check the pins if you just want to play some games, there's a "fully playable" list

And glad to have you here @green drum! Welcome to our Discord.

[green drum]

Merci!

Well unfortunately it's a no go all games I'm trying to load end in a black screen....

Yes I've followed Vampier hints...

[worldly flint]

Anybody else seeing characters turn solid colors during gameplay in Smash Remix?

[night saddle]

yay friday night testing the new build! hope everyone's having a good one 🍻

[worn delta]

Check the pinned sheet for info on what games are playable etc. And name of working pack to Google for in the sheet title

[zealous hull]

I solved this by setting the c-buttons as the right stick before loading the N64 core

[chilly ember]

i just got my 8bitdo kit today, had the same issue but got it working without setting the right stick to c buttons.

[zealous hull]

yeah, the first time I paired it, things were fine, once I de-paired and re-paired it though, I had the same issue
setting as the stick solved it for me

[zealous hull]

did you get this sorted? still having issues?

[green drum]

got it...SHA1 for boot.rom and boot1.rom wasn't correct, you've to download them in a specific way I'll say, nice trick... 🙂

[zealous hull]

That was going to be my first suggestion. 🙂 this seems to be a pretty common occurence.

[green drum]

this is what is happening when you're not looking at the details I'll say... 🙂

[zealous hull]

Glad you're up and running!

[worn delta]

Update all will grab you the correct boot ROMs

[dusty tusk]

N64 has update all configurations now? Nice.

[worn delta]

The two boot.rom files are included in the BIOS database that is pulled down but the update all script

The new MiSTer Main file contains the N64 updates so you no longer need an unstable build so the update script will sort you out

Only things you need to get now are the .txt file, which hopefully soon will be grabbed by the update script, and the latest N64 test rom that Robert uploads

[fair stump]

Gonna stream some casual n64 games and testing. Won't go too crazy with testing this build though since an improved one should come tomorrow

[chilly ember]

I'm excited for dual texture so I can maybe finish the water temple in oot

[modest helm]

Curious thought. Is it possible to have rumble paks and controller paks active at the same time on the core? That’s something you have to choose between on real hardware.

[noble grove]

Hello! I was looking around and couldn't find anything, but on my CRT the OSD is super tiny. Is there a setting for that?

Thank you!

[worldly quartz]

Depends on game but unlikely as n64 doesnt do that

Maybe with a hacked rom and core modded to support that

Probably more realistic to change controller pak to internal save on a game (specially when reversed engineered)

[weary beacon]

Are you trolling or is this true?

[mortal panther]

#1096015979055697940 message

[weary beacon]

Happy days and jubilation!

[mortal panther]

True.dat

[distant ruin]

I can't get Ocarina of Time to boot, what ROM should I be using?

[iron trail]

GameCube versions (OoT or MQ)

[distant ruin]

Ahh thanks

[stone pilot]

The one way rumble+controller pak might work is if rumble is on p1 and controller pak's on another port

games would have to support saving on ports other than p1 for that to work, though

[mortal panther]

I would imagine that if a game supported Rumble Paks, they had SRAM/EEPROM save capability in the cartridge to deal with that scenario.

[zinc dew]

Nah most don’t. You had to do the swaparoo.

[mortal panther]

You don't know! You weren't there!

[zinc dew]

lol

[mortal panther]

lol

[zinc dew]

how funny would it be if I were some teenage zoomer being a mod of a discord filled with 40 something’s. I’d just be like “y’all like these old graphics? It’s got like 1/10th the polys of a fortnite character”

[mortal panther]

hehe

Wait, no... that wouldn't be funny at all!

[vapid hawk]

https://youtu.be/Sf036fO-ZUk

[stone pilot]

https://twitter.com/MarioBrothBlog/status/1054807367953596417?lang=en

Supper Mario Broth (@MarioBrothBlog)

The high-polygon model for Mario's mustache, seen in the pause menu of Super Mario Odyssey. With 814 triangles, it is nearly as complex as Super Mario 64 Mario's entire model, which had 838 triangles.

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[mortal panther]

That is wild!

Did you try to see if that megatextures-1.0.z64 would run on the core? 😉

Yep, it works. Just tried it. Crazy.

Link to the ROM on GitHub is in the video description.

[orchid nimbus]

https://github.com/lambertjamesd/n64brew2023/releases

here it is

set rom to cic6102

[pale granite]

that would be useful for Apple II as well. At least some "dampening" setting or autocalibrate as you go

[manic basin]

<nods in Maniac Mansion>

[orchid nimbus]

Did mario kart amped up stop working?

[manic basin]

I had to add |eeprom2k as the DB doesn't have it. After that it started working. I can do a PR if you'd like.

[inner garden]

anyone else noticing artifacts on the 3D models in Mario 64

like randomly missing dots of color moving around

[shrewd peak]

yeah a lil bit

[inner garden]

Is there an actual way to tweak the analog stick sensitivity?

is it a special mister build?

nightly? and is there a way to configure mister to only get nightly

[shrewd peak]

the only way i know of is to use the pinned unstable mister build

[hollow orbit]

How well does the NSO stick work?

[shrewd peak]

i don't know if you can manually tweak it yourself

[hollow orbit]

I already ordered one so I’m stuck with it but

Curious

[vapid hawk]

check the pins

[shrewd peak]

Pretty good

it feels for better or worse like the genuine thing

[inner garden]

do I do anything special? or just use it and get magic

[dusty tusk]

Even something as simple as a basic dead zone setting would do wonders

[wanton sun]

thank you @quick arch @hollow rune @quasi basalt @chrome quest for testing the tree in kirby. Seems it's very random then. 0x80000 indicated there is some memory access that should not happen, but it doesn't seem to create a crash reproducible. Nonetheless great that you hopped on and verified, thank you very much!

[spark granite]

hmmm I'm using the unstable zImage_dtb and I can map the buttons ok now, but the analog stick benchmarks results are way different to an original controller now

before I switched the zImage_dtb they were almost identical

using an NSO controller

all directions are now 126

at least the pairing lights are no longer cycling now 😄

off the charts

[shrewd peak]

the mischief makers attract mode is taunting me

[lone geyser]

Just use it, though @weary palm recompiled it for the latest unstable changes if you want to find it in the messages here

[iron dove]

This is my NSO via USB, using the zImage_dtb from #test-builds message
The one in the pins has a different hash, im guessing the one I have is older

[spark granite]

hmm yeah, the one I am using is from the pins and is called zImage_dtb_unstable_20230901_151838

I'll try the other one

[lone geyser]

You can always use the unstable main to scale back down

[iron dove]

the one im using was the 2nd version that shig posted I'm pretty sure

[spark granite]

hmmm I tried the one you just linked and it's the same

I'm using whatever unstable main that the n64 updater used

[iron dove]

im now on stable main since the recent release

[spark granite]

hmmm ok, I'll try that

[iron dove]

but pretty sure it was the same under the unstable release with N64 improvements also

[inner garden]

got it. Thank you

[iron dove]

how is the controller connected?

usb and bluetooth should get his improvements, if using an 8bitdo receiver or something it'll report with a diff VID/PID and be treated differently

[spark granite]

using bluetooth

and with latest stable mister it's still the same!

let me try going back to the stable zImage_dtb

[iron dove]

hmm, im not sure why it'd be different sorry

[pale granite]

so we no longer need the unstable mister main, right?

or is there another unmerged feature?

is it better analog control handling? (from a quick scan of old messages)

[vapid hawk]

yeah its the analog clamping

and the improvements for the nso (deadzone, usb etc)

[pale granite]

oh right, I want that then 😆

[hot spoke]

Will the N64 core be able to save on SD card and/or N64 memory card pack?

[spark granite]

That's back to stable zImage_dtb and latest unstable MiSTer

but now I have issues mapping buttons again

[iron dove]

bugger 😦

[spark granite]

has anyone tested latency on the NSO controller? It feels pretty good to me

[lament escarp]

Afaik the nso driver is meant to be used with #controllers message, which fixes the ranges in the n64 core with all sticks.

[spark granite]

hmm ok

I'll just leave it for now. Using the latest unstable zImage_dtb at least I can map the buttons properly

what's the downside of having much higher values than an original controller?

I guess it will just feel a bit off if you're super familiar with a real controller

[lament escarp]

It's just super sensible since your reaching max value at 2/3 tilt.

[spark granite]

yeah

[thick terrace]

megatextures demo

[manic basin]

The 8bitDo stick replacements for OEM + reflex adapter work great with MiSTer main. I stomped all my unstable MiSTer builds today and updated and was surprised that it is correctly registered out of the box (just got them off of a preorder from a month ago and am very happy).

[spark granite]

is that with the stable zImage_dtb?

I think it's only the NSO controller that is problematic at the moment

[manic basin]

No

Vanilla

[spark granite]

yeah that's what I mean by stable 🙂

[manic basin]

Same build, but my Ultimate controller (modern stick)

[spark granite]

if I use the stable zImage_dtb I get proper ranges, but if I use any of the unstables I get 126 in all directions

anyway, the dust will settle on all this stuff eventually

[manic basin]

Yeah, every other stick gives me 122 to 127. The 8BitDo replacements are plug and play.

At 77-80ish.

[spark granite]

nice, I might get an 8bitdo kit, but I don't want to gut any of my original controllers

[manic basin]

Brawler 64

I got a couple for free a while back, but they had completely worn out sticks. Massive plastic dust/totally worn through gears and bowl. I wouldn't have gotten these but my wife bought them for me as a gift. I thought they weren't coming for another month. Hehe. But they are outstanding.

[manic basin]

Just to clarify the exact build, yeah...stable from May.

[spark granite]

Hmm those kits are almost as expensive as the NSO controller 😄

[manic basin]

Wait, what? Did they raise the price? I just got the sticks, not the board/wifi replacement.

[spark granite]

ah ok

[manic basin]

They were 19.99US each for me.

[spark granite]

you just got a hall effect stick?

I was looking at the whole kit

[manic basin]

OK, whew. I would hate to hear they were suddenly price gouging.
Yeah. Just the sticks.

[spark granite]

I should get some. I have a few N64 controllers, so have really bad analog sticks. I did replace a couple a while ago with some cheap replacements that seem to do the job

[manic basin]

I'm poor right now...can't justify the NSO or the full kit. But since I got the controllers for free, my wife ordered these for me...she rocks.

[chilly ember]

I got my full kits 8bitdo kits in today and installed them both in controllers, I'm happy with it so far

[spark granite]

the full kit is almost the same price as the NSO controller for me

are the kits better?

[manic basin]

I'm still repairing all the controllers I got in that lot of freebies. Some were from a smoker's house and are .... pungent. But the two N64 controllers just had sharpie on them and "Mario Party" sticks. So it worked out really well.

[spark granite]

I might just grab another NSO controller. I wouldn't mind hall effects for some of my originals to use on my N64 though

[manic basin]

I love that transluscent purple...nice!

[chilly ember]

Yea that's gonna be the one I use the most 😄

[foggy stirrup]

I'm using the mayflash F103 usb adapter. do i use the zlmage_dtb for that or is it only for NSO controllers?

[zenith orchid]

Considering how much ram could be available in the core, there could be a bright future for N64 homebrew that taps into its untapped potential

[lament escarp]

I just got a gray one. I really hope with this many people getting the 8bitdo board we'll get a driver for it eventually.

[chilly ember]

I hope so too, I've been using a dualshock 4 and the sensitivity seems better to me so I'm happy with that

[short trellis]

I got excited about playing a translated version of Densha De Go so I tried to patch it, but it didn’t work. But perhaps that’s as expected?

[lament escarp]

#controllers message this will fix the range on any controller, but I agree with the gate being better.

[daring meteor]

Densha de go should work I think