Nintendo 64

[quasi storm]

Right? There must be a reason they opted for batteries.

[daring meteor]

You can add a new setting, check where it appears in the "Array", and change the lines

[wanton sun]

use status 74, that's rtc and we will not have that for a long time 😛

[daring meteor]

lmao

[zenith orchid]

thats generally what it is right? widescreen CRTs draw the lines wider?

[daring meteor]

Yeah

[mild ether]

rip Animal Crossing..

[daring meteor]

It just tells the HDMI scaler the resolution is 16:9 and not 4:3, that's it

[twin barn]

should be. the timing change to drawing the lines should work in the core since it already handles different line lengths like all cores pretty much

[lament escarp]

Afaik it could only become a problem if you're using 4 controllers with soldered rumble. If you're only using 1 it should be totally safe. No guarantees though.

[native mesa]

I feel blessed by all the toggles

[quasi storm]

What are you soldering? I'm genuinely curious now.

[twin barn]

if you wanted to be extra fancy you could add database entries for those romhacks and add a toggle to detect it, make a fork of main to have that extra category, etc... 😛 not worth it though

[mild ether]

I am kinda curious as well. Does having multiple rumble packs draw too much power for the N64 ?

[zinc dew]

only one way to find out, sacrifice your N64 for science

[native mesa]

If I had to guess it's probably bad for the a/c adapter

[mild ether]

I lack a single rumble pak though so you go first.

[zinc dew]

damnit, I have two, you called my bluff!

[weary beacon]

I would say it again but I don't liek to repeat myself.

[native mesa]

It's called the stone of agony for a reason

[quasi storm]

All I have is an off brand...

[zinc dew]

I totally missed this. Thanks for the explanation!

[lament escarp]

You're a mod, so modify your rumblepacks!

[mild ether]

Ahh now I see.

[zinc dew]

I was hyped for the rumble pak and thought it was pretty amazing at the time.

[mild ether]

Yeah its probably a bad idea to run multiple rumble paks powered by the console.

[quasi storm]

Was the N64 rumble pack a console first?

[zinc dew]

Star Fox 64 was a great showcase for it

[broken viper]

Although if you use hall effect joysticks they have less power draw than the standard ones so I wonder if it evens out if you have 4 controllers with soldered rumble paks and magnetic joysticks.

[zinc dew]

oh wow I think it was

[left depot]

According to my Google fu, "Nintendo actually did this to kiosk rumble packs so shop owners wouldn't have to change batteries. They even went so far as to glue the battery doors shut. It's ok to run a rumble pack this way but never run 4 controllers with 4 modified packs, it draws too many amps through the ports and the system can't handle it. The kiosks came with disclaimers warning what would happen if you ran more than two modified packs on one system."

I'm going to modify two of mine

It's literally just switching the resistor's location, as if they were originally designed with this in mind

[native mesa]

Wire up a boombox to your rumble pak

[mild ether]

I am sure they didn't make you buy batteries for nothing.

[quasi storm]

Oh god... imagine it. Launching a smart bomb...

[mild ether]

Seems legit.

[zinc dew]

@left depot thank you very much!

[native mesa]

Or a furby

Furby is 90s right?

[mild ether]

yes

[broken viper]

90% of all electrical engineering is making stuff explode.

[native mesa]

Crash your arwing and furby yells

[vapid hawk]

I’ve done two rumble packs powered by the console - seemed fine

[quasi storm]

"Whooaah. BIG. SOUND. WAH!"

[mild ether]

I deserve an honory degree.

[native mesa]

https://youtu.be/GYLBjScgb7o

[broken viper]

I am positive that is a ritual to summon satan.

[left depot]

Ok I'm definitely doing it then 👍

[weary palm]

One could "easily" mod their N64 to supply their controller ports with a separate voltage regulator.

[native mesa]

Vibrator attachments when

[vapid hawk]

my logic was - the n64 kiosks in stores had this mod in their rumble packs, and they had 2 controllers only so, at least someone at nintendo thought that'd be ok

[primal bolt]

what if you use the better power supply for mister, could you use 4 rumble packs then? I forget the one I am referring to but its a Triad with higher amps i think

[vapid hawk]

never tried 3 or 4 so i don't know what happens

[quasi storm]

Snort

[vapid hawk]

i wouldn't expect mister to struggle - people have done 4 dualshocks and stuff

[left depot]

I always liked how I didn't have to use batteries when taking out the Dreamcast. That and how I could keep the memory pak plugged in

[quasi storm]

Why does Mom always hog the N64?

[weary palm]

Your wife will love it

[native mesa]

She does like good vibrations https://youtu.be/_kctwd4w7R0

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eab_beh07HU

[weary palm]

Pictures you can hear

[quasi storm]

Slightly off topic, but this reminds me of when they started putting vibrating motors in phones. Those suckers were powerful... it was hilarious to watch a phone on a wooden table.

[orchid nimbus]

it was because the vibration motors were pretty much already in productions and thus they didn't need a lot of research

they just needed to make them smaller

[weary palm]

1996, Motorola StarTAC

Same year as the N64

[quasi storm]

I remember When I learned how a rumble motor works by taking one apart. Such stupidly simple technology.

[mild ether]

Still got one of those.

[orchid nimbus]

a rotating pacman

[cerulean elk]

@languid dune you must be having a good day eh?

[orchid nimbus]

go back to making videos youtube boy 🙂

[languid dune]

Yes!

[tough wigeon]

Yes we know, his uncontrollable pill habit has been wrecking his life since the 80's. Honestly I'm surprised he's still alive.

[quasi storm]

He's a functioning addict. 😢

[broken viper]

He knows how much to take, he's a doctor.

[quasi storm]

Actually, no. He dropped out a year before his doctorate. He is known as Mr Pac-Man. Mario is his doctor...

Which would explain all the pills...

[broken viper]

I saw Mario talking and thought we were responding to him lol

[quasi storm]

Oh God, I didn't even think about that 😆

[languid dune]

Nah, his Dr. is Dr. Goomba Tower.

[quasi storm]

Sorry, @languid dune , I'm not calling you a pill pusher

[native mesa]

Two goombas in a lab coat

[broken viper]

All I'm saying is if someone with a medical license also works as a hotel doorman they are definitely a drug dealer.

[quasi storm]

Have you seen how he deals with viral infections? He literally just throws pills at the problem...

[languid dune]

Even Baby Mario has a dectorate.

[cerulean elk]

I am happy you got your game!

[fleet gull]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I saw from a recent Video Game Esoterica video that DK64 is running on the N64 core. I just updated everything and I'm getting a black screen. Was curious if there was a setting that I needed to toggle on or off. Any ideas?

[stuck summit]

I was getting that until I updated my N64 Database file.

So make you sure you have the latest

[thorn flax]

awbacon you gonna have to repeat, multiple times, in your n64 videos for folks jumping on this discord to read the pins and go to vampire' website

[fair stump]

VGE leading people astray

[cerulean elk]

lol I showed Vampires website. Cant do much more than that

[fleet gull]

Is that a separate file outside of the update all script? I noticed that actually pulled a boot rom for the N64 this time.

[knotty zealot]

Awcabon

[stuck summit]

https://vampier.net/N64/ > came here, Rightclicked DataBase_20230906.txt, "save link as..." and renamed to N64-Database.txt during saving

[thorn flax]

this damn channel, every time I come here

[thorn flax]

also update to MiSTer unstable
also do all the other things listed on the site

[fleet gull]

Thanks!

[tough wigeon]

Yeah, feel silly for not reading the pinned post. I just didn't realize Vampier's website was updated with more info. Also, would really help if discord didn't hide the pinned post icon under an ellipsis sub-menu. (so wasn't aware there were pinned posts when I first came here yesterday, ugh.)

[cerulean elk]

it doesnt on desktop, only mobile...which is annoying

[tough wigeon]

Does on desktop if you open to the side not full-screen. Either way, annoying. There's plenty of room for the 🤬ing icon!

[orchid nimbus]

N64-database.txt SMALL D!!

You have a small D @stuck summit ?

[wraith estuary]

If I close discord desktop and re-open the program, it hides the pins and I have to go find them. I'm not a fan either... 🙂

[tidal zenith]

that's a very personal question

[orchid nimbus]

? huh

it's a filename

[fleet gull]

Made some progress! But not quite what I pictured. Lowercase “d” and all.

[tough wigeon]

My valuable lesson from yesterday is to go off of the spreadsheet of tested titles (no intro set) and use recommended rom patches (such as no-face Mario 64, etc) -- Had a lot of fun with Majora's Mask even with some missing polys in the town areas.

[orchid nimbus]

try this @fleet gull

[orchid nimbus]

is that Mario64?

[fleet gull]

DK64

[orchid nimbus]

derp

try another game

doesn't work

[fleet gull]

Bummer. I saw the table said it was playable. Maybe it's broken again

SM64 patched boots up, no problem

[orchid nimbus]

good then you're core is setup correctly

[fleet gull]

Is this the right table link? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/edit?pli=1#gid=0

[orchid nimbus]

I guess it works

[stuck summit]

Yeah, I was gonna say

it works really well for me on the latest core

[orchid nimbus]

I'm out of the loop I guess

🙂

trust the compatibility sheet

[fleet gull]

Does the rom need to have the (USA) in the title?

That could be my issue, if that;s the case

[topaz otter]

Man this unity thing is getting out of control

[quasi storm]

It works fairly well. I just had the audio stop about halfway through the intro.

[orchid nimbus]

same

[stuck summit]

@fleet gull Go into system settings and change the CIC to 6105, see if the game boots

[orchid nimbus]

error e00800

[stuck summit]

I think so

[quasi storm]

It goes by the hash, not the title.

[fleet gull]

I'll give it a shot. What does the CIC mean, just so I can learn.

[quasi storm]

CIC is the lockout chip.

[stuck summit]

Yeah, games had different CIC chips. If it's a database issue, then the core is not loading the proper CIC which results in a black screen

[quasi storm]

Different chips for different regions, and even a few different ones in the same region.

[stuck summit]

if you boot the game and go into the settings, and the CIC is already 6105 then your database is working

[wraith estuary]

Checking Integrated Circuit 🤓

[fleet gull]

It was set to 6105

[stuck summit]

Alright so then it might be the ROM

[fleet gull]

Let me try installing a different ROM. I could have sworn I pulled from my No Intro download

[topaz otter]

Ever used the gameshark, its the code that makes it work with certain games. Theres like 5 different ones

[quasi storm]

Is that what the "M" code was for?

[topaz otter]

Master code?

I dont think so

[quasi storm]

Yeah

It's been a while since I've used the game shark. Help me remember, was there a setting that you had to specify a specific game you were running if it was in that list?

[tough wigeon]

Also leave Auto set to on if you're working with games already listed in the database (with a big N and small D) file. Only turn auto off if you're experimenting with settings and don't mind watching things crash and burn. 🔥

[fleet gull]

Still no luck. Even when swapping the rom from my no intro backup

[quasi storm]

Show us your N64 folder

[topaz otter]

Master code was the "must be on" code. Keycode was the cic.

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1fZ7Ap6ebs

[tough wigeon]

Unless something is wrong with the rom (pif) files and/or region settings I'm not sure what the issue could be.

[quick arch]

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/Nintendo-64/Nintendo-64-manual-and-additional-documents/Nintendo-64-games-manuals/Nintendo-64-games-manuals-990819.html

[topaz otter]

You had to start with a game with no keycode or at least the default one, then change the code in the menu. Then put in the game that required the keycode.

Like i do goldeneye -> keycode -> zelda

[quasi storm]

Oh, yeah. What a process. 😆

[topaz otter]

Crazy thing about the gameshark, it dumps roms through the parallel port👀

[fleet gull]

Could be the PIF. I had trouble finding one tht wasn't aleck64, unless that is the one everyone is using

To be clear, I am using that aleck64 one

[quasi storm]

and there it is!

[fleet gull]

Okay. Then the Google searching resumes

sigh

[primal bolt]

i use to use GameShark for WWF No Mercy

there were some crazy codes

honestly it was pretty amazing

[topaz otter]

My favorite part about gameshark keycodes, if put in a keycode for a game you didn't have, it locked it to that game. Then you had to go to the store and buy it to unlock it.

[tough wigeon]

try a very popular internet archival site with a logo that looks like the Pantheon. 😉 Ninty doesn't seem to go after that site (or at least not successfully) and there's less risk of malware/popups/crap shoveled at you.

[wraith estuary]

when people dump their PIF ROM, they typically name it [BIOS] Nintendo 64 - PIF (Japan, USA).bin

[fleet gull]

Maybe my No Intro is out of date. I'm seeing one on Archive with the files.

[quick arch]

For my understanding Aleck64 used this cic5101 not listed on the settings maybe not implemented so maybe other packs (not no intro) have some patched versions I guess

[knotty zealot]

does goldeneye MP work?

[fleet gull]

And we are finally here. Thanks for your help everyone!

[quasi storm]

I'm sure you know it doesn't...

[knotty zealot]

can you fix it for tomorrow?

[quasi storm]

I'll get right on that.

[fair stump]

Having a sleepover tomorrow?

[knotty zealot]

i don't follow this channel man. i don't know what the hell's going on in here.

my evil twin bro and i might take a trip and would bring the mister

liquid

[tough wigeon]

@knotty zealot check the pinned post and read Vampier's page. Tells you everything you need to know.

[quasi storm]

Games like Goldeneye require TLB, which is a beast all on its own. It may not be worked on for a bit, so no Goldeneye. Sorry, I thought you were being goofy.

[knotty zealot]

oh ok

https://vampier.net/N64/xmas.png okay so like i said, 80% of the library bug free by the end of next week

[zealous hull]

Trust me, he knows. lol

[cerulean elk]

rendering my N64 for tonight. Never ends lol

[quasi storm]

I'm trying to figure out what fixed the map screen in road rash... dude, that game may be near perfect now!

[knotty zealot]

it's a road RASH alright

[wraith estuary]

golden eyes works for me. 60fps. my uncle works for mister so i got special version

[quasi storm]

You ever had road rash? It's loads of fun!

[knotty zealot]

may i recommend ridge racer? it's on the SONY playstation

https://tenor.com/view/walk-strut-mc-gregor-gif-11684746

[quasi storm]

It's also on 64...

[knotty zealot]

don't ruin my moment

[quasi storm]

Was there one for Saturn? I feel like they made it a mission to have a game on every system that came out.

I guess Saturn had Daytona. But I'm getting off topic.

[knotty zealot]

everyone's off topic

people are fuming and shaking because they can't play turok yet. they just need to FEEL it running on their cyclone and then they'll never touch it again

[fair stump]

Turok is already playable

[quasi storm]

Your pfp is off topic... seriously, of all the Goldeneye faces you could have picked, why THAT one?

[knotty zealot]

best looking guard?

[quasi storm]

Turok is playable if you want to marathon it right now

[knotty zealot]

the real dinosaur hunter was the flea market cartridge hoarder all along

[vapid hawk]

yeah turok works i spent like 20 minutes failing the second jumping puzzle

[quasi storm]

The portal?

[knotty zealot]

ok but it RAN on your 100000 usd fpga? that's what matters

[quasi storm]

Or in a level?

[vapid hawk]

no the like, chasm area with the little cliff edges

where you fall into water and have to climb back up

[quasi storm]

Maybe you weren't running? Double tap c up

[vapid hawk]

oh that would explain some things

[quasi storm]

I JUST learned this...

[knotty zealot]

did you load it up on retroarch right after to make sure the latency wasn't as good as on mister?

[quasi storm]

You can also dodge left and right! I never knew this.

[vapid hawk]

i'd have to install retroarch for that so.. no

[knotty zealot]

you know in your heart that the mister is better anyways

[quasi storm]

Retroarch cheats with run ahead. With mister you don't need no stinking run ahead.

[vapid hawk]

does turok have help prompts and we just can't see them yet?

or were you meant to read the manual

[quasi storm]

Darn it, now I have to go check. I know the remaster has a training level...

[vapid hawk]

oh i might of skipped a tutorial come to think of it

@terse canyon you made a widescreen mode?

[vapid hawk]

ok i forgive you turok 😄

[terse canyon]

just used the settings someone posted selectable via osd

[vapid hawk]

oh its just like changing the AR at the scaler ?

neat, n64 has quite a few more games that support widescreen than psx

[terse canyon]

yea changing the AR, its here if you want to play

[iron trail]

Lol I was wondering what "Hide Screen" did for too long. That font.

[native mesa]

Wow he actually did it or did someone else take it and fun with it

[quasi storm]

Just learned the dpad will also toggle run speed, but I'd rather double tap. Seriously, who would try reaching for that on a real controller?

[native mesa]

Three handers

[vapid hawk]

i'm in lefthanded mode so i guess its one of the c buttons for me

lefthanded mode is pretty good btw, move on dpad, look on stick

[orchid nimbus]

new N64 Database https://vampier.net/N64/Builds/DataBase_20230914.txt - just rename or use the auto updater

[terse canyon]

could you add xeno crisis to that @orchid nimbus

[chrome quest]

That's a great link thanks!
Reminded my to share this URL format for other manuals. Not all, but usually if it was reasled on Virtual Console you'll get something.
For example Nintendo UK had the Lylat Wars manual, if you want Star Fox 64:
https://m1.nintendo.net/docvc/NUS/USA/NFXE/NFXE_E.pdf
Can alter the URL for other things /console/country/gamecode/.... and so on

[quasi storm]

Also, you can jump in mid air. That definitely helps with timing.

[native mesa]

How did turok learn to do that

[vapid hawk]

you can double jump ?

[vapid moat]

Double Jump? When

[vapid hawk]

i think you might not have that at the start of the game

[quick arch]

Thanks 🙂

[vapid moat]

Is it the Donkey Kong Country-thing where after running off ledge, you can do a jump?

[quasi storm]

Yep. Not a double jump, my bad.

They seriously did everything they could to make jumping as painless as possible within the constraints.

[vapid hawk]

it was early days for jumping in fps games

[quasi storm]

If/when you do a playthrough, just you wait... there are some fiendish jumping sections in the later levels.

[mortal panther]

Back when they were trying to figure out how to get the same height without the assistance of a rocket launcher.

[quasi storm]

Some of these guys went on to develop Metroid prime, so they definitely cut their teeth here.

[fair stump]

People used to complain a lot about fps platforming but I'd always thought metroid prime felt great at it

[vapid hawk]

i like it in MP

its really not that hard, have a double jump, have loads of air control, ideally have a dash too

[quasi storm]

I was contemplating this earlier today. How do you deal with A and B, as a lefty?

[vapid hawk]

just like flick my right thumb over

i'm not actually left handed

you only need them for weapon swaps and stuff, its not so bad

[weary beacon]

Does F-Zero boot?

[quasi storm]

Yes it does, and it is glorious!

[mortal panther]

I only liked Metroid Prime on the Wii. Couldn't stand the GC controls.

[weary beacon]

It didn't when i tried yesterday. Do i need a ned unstable main?

[quasi storm]

#1096015979055697940 message

[mortal panther]

That reminds me. Last weekend, I had the F-Zero X demo loop running, but had to step away to run some errands. Later in the day, I realized that I had left it running for about 8 hours. When I went to check it, the demo loop was still running flawlessly. Looked and sounded perfect after running for so long.

However, shortly into the demo loop with the latest build from yesterday, I'm noticing some occasional audio pops, when they weren't present with earlier builds.

[quasi storm]

At least this one, for the best analog

[weary beacon]

Controller info??

[quasi storm]

I believe Robert may be looking into audio popping in general, so maybe it'll be fixed soon?

[quasi storm]

Well, it works with the latest core, AND it has fixes for n64 controller analog, so... yeah.

[weary beacon]

I asked about main mister not zimage for the controller.

[quasi storm]

Sigh

#1096015979055697940 message

[weary beacon]

Your confusing me

[quasi storm]

There is the mister main you can use. The one in the message I linked initially...

[weary beacon]

Thanks

[quasi storm]

Let me know if you have luck with it.

[weary palm]

Did you make a pull request

[terse canyon]

no dont want to disturb Roberts plans

[mortal panther]

I'm curious to know if the core supports custom aspect ratios in MiSTer.ini, or if that's part of the framework that was left out for the time being.

[wanton sun]

you should be able to use custom AR, yes

oh wait, i removed it, haha 😅

[vapid hawk]

yeah i think the menu options are just missing ?

actually removing that from the scaler would be an effort

[wanton sun]

the whole video_freak module missing

[vapid hawk]

oh right

[rocky spindle]

Check out Jumping Flash for the PSX by Namco. It’s an alright first-person platformer.

[languid dune]

Powerslave also did a good job with first-person platforming.

But yeah, Metroid Prime nailed it.

[mortal panther]

Was just curious. Thanks.

[hollow rune]

yeah weird, namco museum isn't working for me either...

like it is a no boot for me

[wanton sun]

fresh core boot, directly booting the game?

[hollow rune]

i have the latest nightly

yeah fresh boot

core 0913

I didn't amange to get Vampier's script to work

but I did it all manually

[wanton sun]

boots here

[hollow rune]

let me try again

[wanton sun]

very strange...some options set maybe?

[hollow rune]

now we are good

I think it was my order of operations and I overwrote the unstable nightly

vielen dank, Robert

[wanton sun]

odd, i wouldn't expect it to need the unstable nightly, but maybe you saved a different cic type?

[terse canyon]

mine wouldnt boot namco museum with data force wb on

[wanton sun]

very interesting find, forcing wb will stall the cpu forever. well, you shouldn't use it anyway 🙂

[hollow rune]

What I did was:

• Yesterday I updated the N64 core
• Today updated my MiSTer file to the latest unstable nightly
• Then I did update all cause I wanted to try Vampier's script
• Then I did got their script on my MiSTer, and try that but it failed
• Then I just tried to run Namco Museum cause I heard it was being difficult and it would not load
• I then updated the MiSTer file again cause the file size was different
• Rebooted the MiSTer
• Pac Man works
  Data Cache is On

it is a good Pac Man port

[terse canyon]

seems like xeno crisis only works with data force wb on

[wanton sun]

could be it uses data cache commands that are not yet implemented or just some other random bug

[old iris]

how to configure the stick in the menu? I have only d-pad, B, A, L, R, Z, Start and C buttons when setting up buttons

[terse canyon]

😁 omg thats the reason also why bio hazard 2 wouldnt load either, ive had that setting on lol

[manic basin]

Stick is auto config to left stick.

[hollow rune]

you have to do it for the whole mister

[wanton sun]

you configure the stick in the menu core before you load the n64 core

[hollow rune]

then it will recognize the analog stick

[manic basin]

"left" == "stick 1"

[old iris]

thank you very much, the controller settings in mister itself just went wrong

[hearty python]

I have sucessful changed and paird the controller while running the core, had some trouble with the analog stick. Pairing opens ever the new mapping when first button is pressed in the core. This work quite normal.

[manic basin]

I finally goat RRDUAL working on Episode 1 Racer. I forgot you had to be in controller 1 and 3, not 1 and 2. I used to be so good at this. I suck eggs now....but it's quite fun to play it that way.

[hollow rune]

Testing N64 on Twitch
https://www.twitch.tv/rgw_panda

[warped patrol]

Anyone else have audio dropping in the middle of Dk64? Increasing the cache delay seems to delay it, but after about 10-20 minutes of gameplay audio tends to drop. Game does seem to run fairly fast compared to the og game (before enabling cache delay).

[pine apex]

how do you do it?

[manic basin]

You need 3 controllers at least. Launch the core from cold boot and I usually launch Controllertest just to verify. Press some buttons on controller 1, then press some buttons on the controller you don't want to use for the second stick to assign it controller 2. Finally, press some buttons on the controller you DO want to use to assign it to controller 3.

Launch Episode 1 Racer, launch Tournament, and choose a new file. In the name entry screen on controller 1 hold down Z and use the L button to select the letters R-R-D-U-A-L then end.

When you launch the game, it'll be in dual stick mode. Forward on both is accelerate forward, pull back on each to steer. Push left or right on both to twist to the side. Back on both to brake.

[pine apex]

ohhhh I thought you had been able to configure it to the 3rd joystick to right stick on 1P

[manic basin]

You may be able to, but I'm using single stick controllers. I can't get my brain to work with modern controller layouts. I've never tried though.

[pine apex]

it's very funny

[manic basin]

Yeah, much prefer OEM style controllers for N64 games.

[pine apex]

Playing it with an original joystick on each hand feels really good

[manic basin]

I really don't know why the remaster release didn't include dual stick options. They changed/updated controls on the reissue, so why not add it. :/ Oh well. Now I have the core!

[cerulean elk]

Yes that just happens currently

I think its just a situation where once the sync is lost to X degree the code stops trying to output audio all together

I mention it in my video coming out at 4 today I believe about the sync issue

[warped patrol]

Yeah I noticed the audio sync seems to drop more and more, cache delay must just keep it in sync for a just a while longer. Looking forward to the vid

[cerulean elk]

I dont have the slightest clue the terminology on the code / hardware side but once the "drift" (what we'd use in film) becomes too great...silence

[manic basin]

By the end of the rap they're about a full line and a half behind. Definitely seems cumulitive.

Some indie director is going to be like "Just use PluralEyes." </s>

[chrome quest]

@paper orchid Sorting through game manuals, figured you might like this if you'd not already seen it. As the original Sin and Punishment MiSTer tester:
https://m1.nintendo.net/docvc/NUS/JPN/NGUJ/NGUJ_J.pdf

[orchid nimbus]

so Treasure is a spin off from ex-Konami employees

[hearty python]

Bust a move 99 seems to want more render modes 😂

[orchid nimbus]

yup

[hollow orbit]

NSO controllers in stock again?

Just ordered one.

[paper orchid]

Oh the manual?

I have that laying around somewhere

I also have the Dengeki guide

[split lynx]

Hmmm I was even thinking about re-upping my switch online sub just to order the N64 controller lol

still can't get my N64 controller with usb adaptoid to go up and down on the stick

[weary beacon]

Does not boot. Black screen and 00 Fps counter.

[orchid nimbus]

N64-database.txt

[cerulean elk]

I was doing a video today for this weekend on N64 and MiSTer...basically summarizing where it started and where its at. In three fucking months 😆

[orchid nimbus]

or try this one

@weary beacon

[cerulean elk]

just like "oh yeah two weeks ago Mario Kart looked like this" (insert shot of black box) "and now it looks like this" (insert perfectly working game)

[orchid nimbus]

almost perfect

[cerulean elk]

potato potato

[orchid nimbus]

aluminium aluminium

[cerulean elk]

just doesnt work in text lol

[orchid nimbus]

potato potatoe

[cerulean elk]

ok there Dan Quayle

https://youtu.be/XxahO7tGCTE

more ramblings of a mad man

[orchid nimbus]

you talk fast

[blob of text]INHALES

😄

[cerulean elk]

always will

no script...I just start talking and stop at some point when the video runs out in the timeline

[split lynx]

Are the hashes in there the result of md5sum ? i was trying to manually verify my files to the ones in the DB but I could never get the hashes to match

[orchid nimbus]

@split lynx first 4096 bytes

[split lynx]

ooh ok thanks. duh

[orchid nimbus]

1 take 😄

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_ROM_Database

the database was updated today

https://vampier.net/N64/Builds/DataBase_20230914.txt

save as N64-database.txt (case sensitive!)

[fallen sparrow]

This is the way

[cerulean elk]

you are the British me and I am the American you

[orchid nimbus]

I sort of do the same - i check back if I don't cringe too much and if that's the case I release it

[fallen sparrow]

😂

Sometimes, I think I need to redo something, but then it turns out okay. VGE talks more facts though

[cerulean elk]

which is hard because I need to REMEMBER them

[fallen sparrow]

Redoing a section is the worst, as sometimes you repeat the same thing, or leave it out completely

[orchid nimbus]

whos' video do you like more: PCN/Baconator/Vampier (sho just shuts up and lets the core do the talking)

[cerulean elk]

I on occasion get through a 4 minute sequence then realize I didnt hit record

[orchid nimbus]

😛

[fallen sparrow]

Been there

[orchid nimbus]

I haven't made a video in a while though

[fallen sparrow]

The other day, I nailed a full 8 minute video and realized I had my mic switched off

So I sat there talking shit to a monitor

[elfin depot]

Actual gif of the moment

[fallen sparrow]

Make some

If I get a solid block of time, where I'm off, and my wife is out. I'd like to do a MiSTer, best resources video, and @orchid nimbus 's site will be there

[orchid nimbus]

busy with work - we normally work in a team of 2

and the other half is out

[fallen sparrow]

I might even tell people that VGE is okay too 😀

[orchid nimbus]

we get a whole month off when we hit 15 years with the company

[fallen sparrow]

Nice

A month of is good, I did 25 days in August, and it was hard to go back

[orchid nimbus]

in 2020 I got laid off

I already had 2 months there

[brisk drum]

Ahh that’s the Atari 2600 de-make

[orchid nimbus]

severance pay and all

then they rehired me lol

[fallen sparrow]

Scummy

[orchid nimbus]

same salary

same conditions

all my hardware was updated etc.

so I'm not complaining

[cerulean elk]

I might tell people you are King Charles errand runner!

[fallen sparrow]

A lot of companies slightly change the job role, and then fire and rehire

[safe robin]

Did you say something along those lines like "how long will you hire me this time?"

[fallen sparrow]

Nice, I supply sausages to the royal Uranus

[orchid nimbus]

@fallen sparrow I got severance pay / unemployment and unemployment covid bonus

severance pay was my full salary

[cerulean elk]

man who HASNT been laid off lol

[fallen sparrow]

I managed to get furloughed during COVID, I had a great time

[orchid nimbus]

ha 😄

[cerulean elk]

the economy is like a dumster fire with lithium cells inside the dumpster

[fallen sparrow]

Honestly, I had an amazing time

Off for like 9 months

I felt like a new born

[cerulean elk]

thats called "funemployment"

[fallen sparrow]

Amazing

But we are all paying the price now, inflation is sky high in the UK

I guess, like the USA and many other countries too

[orchid nimbus]

oh well - I once again found out how messed up the state of california was after paying into the system for 12 years and then getting crap from them and not getting paid for several weeks

[woven olive]

This linux one line in a FAQ somewhere may save a lot of db hash calculation questions... $ head -c 4096 /path/to/rom.z64 | md5sum

[drowsy lantern]

Never have. Left my first job. Been at my 2nd job for 19 years now.

[cerulean elk]

I am an artist. I lose all my jobs 😆

[hollow orbit]

Hmm. Does having the sheriff show up to repossess the video store you work in count as laid off?

[cerulean elk]

I am gonna go with YEP

[hollow orbit]

That was after I showed up for work at a pizza place and the locks had been changed overnight.

[terse canyon]

@fallen sparrow try turning on data force wb to get xeno crisis to work

[weary beacon]

Doesn't work on the mister

[fallen sparrow]

Will do, over the weekend. Thanks

[hybrid spade]

Who's trcking roms?

[fallen sparrow]

I'm at work right now

[terse canyon]

i had that on and thats why biohazard 2 wouldnt work

[fallen sparrow]

Gotcha

[hybrid spade]

Star Wars - Rogue Squadron (Europe) (En,Fr,De) (Rev 1).z64 - Crashes on the intro movie to the first level. USA version works fine.

[fallen sparrow]

I only tried USA

[hybrid spade]

I'm in Australia so I tried PAL first 🙂

[fallen sparrow]

Makes sense

[hybrid spade]

It's an incredible core. Can't believe how much is already running.

[drowsy lantern]

I had forgotten how terrible Shadows of the Empire controls. I swear it feels like you’re controlling a friggin tank, oh but when you jump you’re suddenly a feather.

Also they went a bit overboard with that fisheye view.

[hybrid spade]

Maybe they wanted to compete with Sonic Xtreme.

[fair stump]

You have a surprising amount of air control when you jump in Shadows

Glad to see there is a densha de go 64 translation. I'll have to try it soon https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2947/

[vague socket]

Just throwing this out there… Too early to sell my ultrahdmi modded N64? 😬🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

[vapid hawk]

too soon to be sure yeah

[weary beacon]

I would sell it like I sold my analog consoles.

[vapid hawk]

could still end up a slice of games that can't work or something

wait and see what happens with the TLB

i expect Robert will find a way to make it happen but i wouldn't sell all your gear yet

[vague socket]

Hey @vapid hawk how’s it going? I’m sorry, gotta ask .. TLB?

[dusty tusk]

Couldn't get the translation to work. I think it implements a few extra things that aren't supported yet

[weary beacon]

Only reason I would keep it. Is if you plan to do a pokemon stadium party and require everyone to bring thier Gameboy carts over and you have two transfer paks

[vague socket]

Strong pass on that mate

[vapid hawk]

translation look-aside buffer, its a fairly complex feature of the CPU thats tricky to implement on FPGA

[weary beacon]

Then sell it!

[vague socket]

I’m thinking of getting it gone prior to a flood on used market. Just need @cerulean elk bacon video showing a little goldeneye, then it’s gone 😬

[vapid hawk]

i wouldn't expect there to be a sudden rush of people selling them or anything, mainly because of how hard it is to get a de10nano

[vague socket]

Yea, true. Pleased I got mine, let’s be honest Robert has made it well worth it!! What is TLB? Part of the core that’s not working yet I assume

[vapid hawk]

#1096015979055697940 message

[vague socket]

Sorry, missed the reply

[weary beacon]

TLB is why the face doesn't work in mario.

[vague socket]

I see, I’m sure Robert will get a work around or implement it, he doesn’t seem to be easily beaten!! 💪🏼

[ocean lily]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_lookaside_buffer

[zinc dew]

Emulate it on the DDR3

[ocean lily]

at that point it might as well be a shim that just returns a fail every time

the TLB needs to return the physical address within 1 cycle

[zinc dew]

I got nothing silly as a response, you got me

[quaint rune]

I do, let me cook

[stone pilot]

The only thing that surprises me is how okay people seem to be with not getting to manipulate Mario's face

[weary beacon]

Grade A satire right here boys!

[stone pilot]

I wish I could respond to that comment with a realistic rendition of how it sounds when you let the nose go

let me try:

BWOWOWWOWOWwowoww

[little socket]

slide > morphing face

[zinc dew]

I enjoyed everything about that interaction

[weary beacon]

While we are on the subject. Does the mario64 no face hack work with the shindou english patch?

[uncut gyro]

do folks have a static build of 7zip on their MiSTer? or do you decompress before transferring things over?

[cerulean elk]

That boy ain’t right

[uncut gyro]

well, he isn't the one with the narrow urethra

[cerulean elk]

Someone should make me mod. I’ll storm through this place like Cotton! (I do not want to be a mod. I have no time)

But I promise to restore the word Q / U / E / S / T

[brisk drum]

Bwaaahhh..

[cerulean elk]

Robby is soft like Bobby. Probably has gout too in his big toe from two many chicken liver pate sandwiches

[balmy dagger]

I welcome our new esoteric overlord.

[safe robin]

I use zip. for non CD based cores the mister can open the zip like a folder and load the games directly

It already works on the n64 core

[zinc dew]

oh

[orchid nimbus]

yup

load time increases with a second or so depending on size and compression method/level

[eternal ravine]

I'm legit excited to play some N64
eventually

[safe robin]

Yea, I got basically one zip per core with the whole romset inside and the only core where for some reason the menu lags for around 2 seconds until I see the games inside the zip, is then neogeo core. But it's okay for me

[zinc dew]

i individually zip the Neo geo games and that doesn’t produce menu lag

[safe robin]

It's basically just when I open the zip. As soon as it's loaded and shows the game list everything is smooth.

[cerulean elk]

just so long as you are playing Matrimelee

[balmy dagger]

I individually Neo Geo my zips. No problems here.

[zinc dew]

Is that the game with the ryu and Ken grandmas?

[weary beacon]

everything loads faster using a NAS.

[cerulean elk]

It is

Aka the best fighting game not made by SNK on Neo Geo

[brisk drum]

Word , had a lot of fun figuring out how to cheese the final boss ..

[zinc dew]

I like Waku Waku 7

[cerulean elk]

A classic too. Just too “small” to be a long term game

[zinc dew]

Because of the character roster?

[brisk drum]

Yep

[zinc dew]

Ohhh

[cerulean elk]

Pretty much. Super charming game but just not enough meat on the bone

[brisk drum]

Although playing the big Totoro looking thing is always fun

[zinc dew]

Yeah I just play it singleplayer

[brisk drum]

Same here

Final boss is a pain in the ass in that game too

I believe it’s called “Fernandez “for whatever reason

[quaint rune]

He can be cheesed so easy though

[brisk drum]

Yeah big pain until you figure out how to cheese him

[brisk drum]

What’s your strat?

[quaint rune]

Spam projectiles lol

[brisk drum]

With what character ?

[quaint rune]

Arina

[brisk drum]

Ahhhh… I love her theme

Her play style doesn’t jive with me though , I like the Totoro thing and Politank and the robotic french maid

Pretty much half the cast lol

[quaint rune]

Politank looks cool

[brisk drum]

Top tier character in the game

GOATED character

[rose crypt]

Waku Waku 7 rips

[rose crypt]

AKA Fernandeath depending on ROM region

[quaint rune]

The shao khan of neo geo

[rose crypt]

that's probably Rugal surely

[cerulean elk]

I show this in my analogue pocket video this weekend. Neo Geo tutorial. That’s the character I use

[brisk drum]

Omega Rugal

[compact skiff]

Does this scale back the sensitivity or just cap it at OEM controller values? I hope that makes sense.

It seems like it does the latter.

[zinc dew]

I think it’s the latter

Hmm, I’m not sure

I just use the NSO N64 controller

[compact skiff]

Hopefully there will be a way to adjust the sensitivity in a future MiSTer main

[desert nest]

Just curious but do other folks have a lot of audio popping in games like Mario Kart 64? I know it's still a pervasive issue that there has been ample discussion around but I've seen videos where I don't observe any popping, so I'm wondering if it's different unit-to-unit.

[uncut gyro]

finally got the chance to start up the core, mega thanks to @orchid nimbus for the script that made this quite painless!

F-Zero worked flawlessly, and looks great with the both the S-Video filter and the JVC Dot shadow mask enabled

[orchid nimbus]

^_^ so much praise for so little work

FPGAZumSpass is the real hero here

[uncut gyro]

I noticed that Daikatana intro plays great, even with 'enhanced' texture quality, but in-game looks like this on my HDMI output to LG OLED TV.

Weird shifted, including the overlays

should I add this to the sheet?

[fair stump]

Pod racer does that too

There's a setting to switch at the moment

It's just a big black box in the way, right?

Try switching ram size to 4 mbyte see if that changes anything

[uncut gyro]

well, the Saturn one wasn't (and still isn't) smooth for me, for some reason 🙂 wanted to give positive feedback when due, instead of just complaints 🙂

[uncut gyro]

how to get an invite to edit the sheet? Tigger's Honey Hunt needs updating, itplays perfectly without the graphics issues currently mentioned

[fair stump]

@worn delta can get you access. Glad to see the subtitles on that fixed

[chilly ember]

Water temple time in Zelda OOT, looks like textures aren't showing on some surfaces.. this should be fun 🙃

[orchid nimbus]

hardmode

[chilly ember]

Video for reference for how it should look when entering

[orchid nimbus]

well quite some stuff is missing in Majora's mask as well

finding the exit after the boss in de deku tree same story

[chilly ember]

Yea missing textures, oot has been mostly good until now

Lake bed in lake hylia is black like its missing texture too

[orchid nimbus]

god knows what RDP modes big N used for these games

I seriously thought that the transparancy in Dr. Mario would all get fixed

but nope... only for the virusses and Mario himself in the upper right corner

[chilly ember]

Weird transparency issues, hopefully water temple is only dungeon with weird texture issues on surfaces, it's the last dungeon i'd want surface texture issues on tho

[chilly ember]

So it's like there are textures issues on anything that once had water over them at one point, so water temple is just darkness everywhere below the default water line

[woven olive]

Fair. Mister linux is i think an arch distro with a lot of stuff stripped out. Only what's needed for functionality it uses. I'll check shortly and see if there's an equivalent command that works directly on the mister. Didn't even think of that.

I typed that as an ubuntu user. Figuring most ppl would be using a separate computer to calculate hashes

@weary beacon I just checked and that command works on my Mister distro. I'm guessing maybe you copy/pastes the $. that just designates the start of the command. don't copy that part. e.g. head -c 4096 '/media/fat/games/N64/WWF No Mercy (USA).z64' | md5sum

outputs f9073323939d2564ac0c03a3e41e4a0f

[orchid nimbus]

f9073323939d2564ac0c03a3e41e4a0f ntsc|cic6102|flash128k|cpak|rpak # WWF No Mercy

[versed cairn]

Looks like more 2 pass rendering. Surprised how much ocarina uses it over most n64 games

You are such a beast for trying to beat that temple without being able to see anything

[weary beacon]

I did actually figure that out. How ever, it shows the same hash sum for every game then.

[chilly ember]

Hahah i decided to look at a walkthrough for water temple just to keep my bearings :p

[vast delta]

Is Blast Corps still hanging shortly after booting? I may have some time to play tomorrow and have been itching to have a go at it

[chilly ember]

I already finished the game a couple times before so its not like i'm spoiling anything by watching a walkthrough so i know where i am :p

[lone geyser]

It does both

Scales to 96, clamps to octagon

[chilly ember]

We'll see what happens, it just has to be the water temple that has issues with textures so you don't know where you are, in the worst dungeon of the game

[vapid hawk]

upload your save for rob to use maybe?

[lone geyser]

I'm not exactly sure what this would look like. Scaling it down any more would start to reduce the effective range first at the diagonals and then at the cardinals. I guess you could incorporate some kind of hybrid approach that maps the sensitivity non-linearly, but it wouldn't be intuitive for end users to alter

Only scenario I can think of where you're not getting the benefit is if your controller has reduced range to somewhere just under 110 so it's not actually scaling for you

(But is still too large)

[weary beacon]

I seen a lot of people using a different program. One I used had a nice controller and what seemed to be more accurate values from what I seen on screen.

[chilly ember]

There is the practice rom that's probably easier to for debugging but i can still upload it if it helps, if anyone wants my basic oot water temple save file, have at it :p

[weary beacon]

Controller Kensa-ki NUS-yo N Cassette (Japan) (Test Program).z64 Is this better or worse? Honest opinons welcome.

[jade jetty]

Could the core just do a calibration of the extents and then either just scale linearly, or present an enumerated menu option with any other interpolation easing that made sense?

I don't know enough about the logic in the core and how it has to work to know how possible that'd be. Only know that it'd be pretty simple if it were regular software

[orchid nimbus]

the N64-database.txt was just updated with 44 new entries

thanks to @manic basin for making it happen

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_ROM_Database/main/N64-database.txt

[jade jetty]

And I know the 4 way gate vs 8 way gate might add some additional complexity layers, but at least from a software perspective it doesn't seem difficult

[lone geyser]

Totally, though I think the current system is more than adequate for what you're describing. The problem is that their complaint (which they are entitled to make by the way, I am not coming from a place of antagonism) seems to be that it's still not sensitive enough, meaning they'd want more physical stick to translate to less virtual stick, but we're already kind of cutting it down to the wire before we start taking away real inputs games expect to see from the set of possibilities

[lone geyser]

It's written in cpp and handled on the Linux side

[jade jetty]

I haven't tried using the current new configuration options for that, so I'm talking out of a vacuum here

and I see that their question isn't quite exactly what I was thinking it was

[lone geyser]

There aren't really options, we've just observed a few controllers that try and scale to true range by themselves so the current system is to let them do their thing and then only cut back if they're ever observed doing more than what those few controllers do. If it does cut back, it cuts all the way back

[jade jetty]

so it's a clamp?

[lone geyser]

It's both. It scales down so that the diagonals can reach (68, 68) then clamps to the octagon from that circle

[chilly ember]

Water jet puzzle textures not looking as they should here

[lone geyser]

Input space is the red circle (technically it's a square if you ignore modern stick gates), values are scaled to the blue circle and then projected onto the edge of the octagon if they fall outside of it

[jade jetty]

was drawing my own hehe

[lone geyser]

(technically it's not a true projection because the slopes aren't all perpendicular to the edges but you get the idea)

[jade jetty]

this seems somewhat reasonable, though I wonder if the behavior is significantly worse if the particular stick ends up with square range

I sort of wonder if any controllers get a circular gate in their actual hardware, then try to spread it out to a square before sending it over the wire

[lone geyser]

It would be unusual and could perform strangely in lots of typical circumstances

[jade jetty]

sorry if I'm muddying the conversation. just am curious

[lone geyser]

Only controller I know of that's like that was the original Brawler64, and it wasn't a good thing

[jade jetty]

yeah it seems like it'd be bad. games are probably served very well by letting the physical gate truncate to a circle, and then just applying the axes as a square. solves the diagonals being sqrt(2) without having to do any additional math work

[lone geyser]

The scaling would still work on squares, it would just clamp a lot after

[jade jetty]

or inverse of that. whatever lol (edit: yeah 1/sqrt(2))

[lone geyser]

So the corners would already be maxed our for the last 15% of the range or so

[manic basin]

Thanks! And thanks to wwark, whereever you are, for catching a dumb bug that slipped past me!

[jade jetty]

if the gate was square and it spit a square out, the clamping is a good option

[lone geyser]

30% since 1/sqrt(2) is ~.7

[jade jetty]

if the gate is a circle and it clamps to a circle, then it's not really going past the circle anyway

if the gate is a circle, and the controller tries to morph that back into a square, then that's when it might be kinda crappy results

and it sounds like that doesn't happen often. so that's good

[dense wagon]

on controllers - yeah so i tested mine, it looks almost identical to an OEM stick... HOWEVER it reaches its 100% point at about half way through the rotation rather than, well, at full position lol

[lone geyser]

Is that without the modified main?

[jade jetty]

let me go look at my 8bitdo again... I thought I remember it spitting out a large square

[lone geyser]

I guess it wouldn't do that without the clamp

[jade jetty]

tho if I have vampier's script, maybe I'm getting the modified main

[dense wagon]

no idea how to get it to scale differently so its actually closer to analogue and not digital almost haha

[jade jetty]

I'm referring to what a controller does internally, and I think you're referring to what the mister core is doing

re the deleted message

[stone pilot]

chiming to say I think Cruisin' USA is completable

[jade jetty]

I think the remaining piece that isn't necessarily covered might be that doing a non-linear easing might get people less sensitivity towards the center? I think that's what the original request was for? (not a request for the easing, but the sensitivity tweaking - the request was possibly more abstract)

ok ran the controller test. I misremembered

the 8bitdo ultimate just has a really, really big circle 😄

now to figure out how to enable the modified mister main

I'll go look at the pinned docs etc

hmm. looks like the update script updates the mister core to unstable. now to figure out how to enable that option I suppose?

menu diving now

[lone geyser]

Check the pinned comments. There's a special MiSTer main binary file that scales all that back

[dense wagon]

Yeah i grabbed it

doesn't help in my case

im thinking of if i can do some form of hardware mod

since what ever its doing it appears to be maxing what ever adc its using far too early

[lone geyser]

What controller is this?

[dense wagon]

its just some no name/brand N64 USB controller

[weary palm]

So it's like overly sensitive in the PSX core as well?

[dense wagon]

feels similar yeah

in this case i get to the like 50% position and its already maxed

so makes it super twitchy

that said i felt that way when using an emulator too

[jade jetty]

so the build that does the scaling is a one-off and not the latest unstable then?

(I see the comment, just got a bit confused by that vs the other available instructions)

[winged peak]

Still having a heck of a time getting games to save, not sure what I'm doing wrong. Mario 64 will keep a save for a little bit but loses it on a full restart of my MiSTer.

[dense wagon]

bad SD card?

[winged peak]

maybe? other cores saving just fine

[zealous hull]

I know that you probably do, but autosave is enabled, yes?

And you're opening the OSD before you restart the MiSTer?

[winged peak]

yep, triple checked all that stuff

[zealous hull]

I figured, just wanted to be absolute sure.

[winged peak]

went in and changed save type manually for mario as well, which saved 4-5 times before I quit and then lost it on restart

looks like Diddy Kong save just worked, gonna try another restart and see if it vanishes

alright DKR saved

[zealous hull]

Are you using the N64-database.txt file? Wondering if saves could be getting corrupted because the core may not use the correct save type/size on intial boot?

I think that was my issue with a DK64 hack. It would wipe my data upon restart because it wasn't initially the correct size/type/etc

could be wrong

[winged peak]

yeah that's what I was thinking too - is there a fix for that? can I edit the DB?

[zealous hull]

Yeah, is it just vanilla mario 64 - no face?

If so, that should be covered already

[winged peak]

patched with the pinned post

UltraSM64

[zealous hull]

Hm. Surely the database has been updated to accommodate that by this point.

Let me see if there is an entry for it in the db.

[winged peak]

Ah is it a naming issue then? Thought replacing the rom with the same name would do it, didn't realize it would pick up size

[zealous hull]

Ah, no, it goes by checksum

Simply replacing the name won't do anything

Here is what I would try first.

[winged peak]

Aah gotcha, okay cool

[zealous hull]

Get the MD5 hash value of the patched rom, and add it as an entry into the database text file alongside the settings. I'm afraid I can't tell you what the correct ones are, but it sounds like they match with vanilla SM64?

The database typically uses the value over the first 4096 bytes of a rom, but for custom entries, you can just use the full value.

I'm looking at the db right now to see if I can't find it in the latest though

[winged peak]

Sweet, I can grab the checksum and add it I think

yeah looking at it now

these are the only Ultras

[zealous hull]

Yeah--we could be missing something--but I would try what I suggested. Hope it helps.

[winged peak]

OH! I see why now

The update_N64 script is updating my SD card, but I run everything off of a 1TB SSD

[zealous hull]

Ah.

Well.

That would be it then, I think. Haha

[winged peak]

Double checking the DB just in case but yeah that's probably it haha

[zealous hull]

If so, simple fix. 🙂 I'm in the middle of moving everything over to my home server as we speak, so I'm looking forward to going through my own troubleshooting on here soon.

[winged peak]

Thank you for the help! Even if that's not it adding the checksum should be pretty straightforward. Appreciate it!

[zealous hull]

My pleasure! People here have been more than helpful to me, that's for sure.

[manic basin]

I've obstructed.

[brisk drum]

Not me! I ain’t helpful

Yeah that’s right tremble at my presence !

[zealous hull]

taco your name is spelled wrong

[brisk drum]

No it ain’t …

[zealous hull]

hm

[manic basin]

AdvantureTako

[brisk drum]

Ok Miriam Webster tell me how to spell my own name that I personally picked out?

[manic basin]

🐙

[brisk drum]

I see what u did there

[fallen sparrow]

Add-Venture Trucko

[brisk drum]

And I like it !

Adventure octopus it is

[fallen sparrow]

Nice

[brisk drum]

I shall win my locals as adventureTako

[lone geyser]

I'll try and keep to unstable on a semi regular basis until something else shakes out

[fallen sparrow]

I've been indulging in some USF2 on the Switch tonight

So much fun against CPU

[brisk drum]

I still gotta play that ..

Shhhh Robert is here ..

[fallen sparrow]

It's fun, just to mess around in single player

[zealous hull]

guten morgen, Robert

[wanton sun]

I still don't got why you want to add entries with only cic6102, it's pointless, they will work without entry. It's only the message that is removed then

[brisk drum]

He has spoken!

[fallen sparrow]

Word

[winged peak]

I'm just screenshotting a file lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brisk drum]

Watch your tone !

[wanton sun]

sorry if i misunderstood that

[brisk drum]

No need to apologize

[zealous hull]

Yeah, we were just troubleshooting something

[wanton sun]

i should have looked better, i thought it was another discussion to add entries to the file, sorry

[zealous hull]

I believe we (hopefully) resolved it though.

[winged peak]

no worries at all

[zealous hull]

Yeah, it's totally fine.

It's getting quite late where I'm at now. So I'm off to bed. Hope everything works out for ya @winged peak

[winged peak]

Once I beat King Bob-omb again I can confirm whether it works haha

[zealous hull]

Have a nice evening/morning/day everybody!

[winged peak]

all good, thanks again!

[zealous hull]

(I like to go for the Chain Chomp star, it's faster)

[brisk drum]

Don’t tell me how to live my life

[zealous hull]

have a day, taco

[brisk drum]

Ty you as well

[winged peak]

yaay saves work

alright I just gotta move the DB manually then on each update, that's easy though

[jade jetty]

I don't know exactly which things I need in untable, besides the n64 core saying it needs it, so I am not putting in a request 😄 just trying to see if "latest unstable" is going to give different results than "the controller-fixing unstable"

[wanton sun]

best to check the system settings for savetype if you ever get in troubles

[jade jetty]

one thing I figured out just now is that "input test" vs "controller test" give different results. so that's good to know

[wanton sun]

i could make a warning for the OSD above autosave: if no savetype was set up it will could tell you right there

[jade jetty]

also, that using the n64 auto-update script doesn't override the controller mister unstable build, unless there's an updated mister unstable. so that's good

[brisk drum]

Wish I could contribute in a more meaningful and concrete way!

[jade jetty]

and yup, requires the specific rom version to do the scaling + clamping. not just "latest unstable". cool. good to know!

[brisk drum]

Godspeed everyone

[jade jetty]

and somehow I managed to get it to properly detect stick 1 as the stick, when it had been grabbing stick 2 for several days now. yay!

I might have finally figured out how to actually clear the remappings I had previously done on accident, or something. seems the "clear" button kept making that menu say "finish" for some reason. but I actually got it to say clear this time. so maybe that did it. or maybe a more recent mister firmware did it.
either way, it's doing the right thing now.

Annnd Majora's mask is still oops all ocarinas mode XD

Nice

[jade jetty]

oh and I finally found the config folder. now I know. guess I should poke around this filesystem some more 😄

[eternal ravine]

32X does what N64 don't
faight

[limber willow]

Omg F-Zero works now 😄

I actually bought my N64 recently just for this game

[languid dune]

Welcome to the F-Zero collective! 🍻

[mild ether]

I will say this about 32x.

It makes your Genesis taller.

[thick terrace]

I own a tower of power. Genesis/CD/32X

[chilly ember]

Sega CD adds girth

[thick terrace]

with an everdrive

I have a rgb modded N64 with ED64

[chilly ember]

I have a mega sd from a few years ago, no 32x tho. No added length or girth for me.

I have a regular non modded n64 with a ed64

Ed and 64 put together sounds like a medical condition

[thick terrace]

My saturn with Fenrir is sitting next to it in front of the 28" CRT. My Mister used to sit there, but I moved it to my office so I can play daily n64 updates

I

[remote hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-almighty-jim-carrey-red-sea-weird-face-gif-16559596

here only GIF can express emotions 😉

[thick terrace]

I'm 57 I don't often announce the medical condition

most of my consoles are supplanted by my MiSTer. Just the dreamcast, ps2, and xbox will be left once the saturn and n64 cores are done.

https://tenor.com/view/diabeetus-wilford-sugar-dessert-diabetes-gif-14969762

[chilly ember]

I got a japanese dreamcast for cheap, threw a chinese gdemu and noctua mod in it but i honestly haven't got alot of use out of it unfortunately

[weary palm]

So young

[thick terrace]

The ebay gdemu was best value retro thing!

[chilly ember]

Aliexpress gdemu ftw

[weary palm]

GdTemu

[thick terrace]

I have a $5 usb wifi stick for my ps2

[chilly ember]

Dreamcast is a fun console to mod tho

I have the sata adapter for fat ps2, works great

[thick terrace]

I have a skinny ps2 with I big ugly Happ arcade button for on/off soldered to the board after I accidentally broke off the tiny button opening the case

[limber willow]

man I've tried to buy a gdemu 3 times.

1. ebay
2. amazon
3. aliexpress

Each time, siezed by customs for "counterfit goods" 😦

[chilly ember]

That's disgusting

What country

Never had issues ordering 3 gdemu together to canada

[limber willow]

Australia 😦

[thick terrace]

I'm in 'Merca. They never seem to care about "questionable" chinese products I fill my garage with

[limber willow]

Also bought a metal PS1 light-gun from Japan, and it got confiscated for "imitation firearm", then destroyed because I didn't want to get approval for, and pay a yearly fee for a license to own it 😦

[chilly ember]

That's stupid, i'd have imagined that sort of thing to be more lax there but i don't know Australian law

[hearty python]

Here in Germany is a series in tv with Australian customs. 😁

[limber willow]

Nah, it's pretty strict here

[chilly ember]

Wtf

[limber willow]

Is that the "Border Security" show from here?

[hearty python]

Yes 😁

[chilly ember]

Do they often have shrimp on the Barbie?

And tell tourists that their knives are not a knife and show them their knife along with saying this is a knife

[limber willow]

That episode was pretty accurate, ngl

[hearty python]

Illegale people, drugs, vorbidden food and much more 😁

[mellow raft]

Is chocolate forbidden? I'm about to choke someone

Or caramels?

Jokes aside sorry you lost the lightgun. That sucks.

[chilly ember]

I'd be pissed lol.

[limber willow]

Don't give them ideas.
The opposition leader here is an ex-cop for a hard-on for banning things lol

[limber willow]

Yeah I wish I hadn't bought it, because they're pretty rare and someone else could have had it

[mellow raft]

Wait... So... he's Robocop?

https://tenor.com/view/robocop-gun-holster-gun-spin-gif-15708953

[hearty python]

Years ago I had also a problem with customs. Got a letter with asking to destroy the items. Thought I bought a legit product and was surprised 😲

[mellow raft]

Jeez

[jade jetty]

Hmmm. Why access to builds channel on desktop but no access to builds channel on mobile, with the same account

[chilly ember]

It wasn't a metal lightgun? I can't say i ever tried pushing limits ordering anything but i never had issues with flashcarts and mod related devices

[hearty python]

Think it was psp stuff, can’t remember right 😂

[chilly ember]

Ohhh well that probably explains it. That was when the psp was relevant?

[mellow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/all-your-base-all-your-base-are-belong-to-us-zero-wing-zerowung-somebody-set-up-us-the-bomb-gif-23152930

Maybe had a bomb haha

I joke

[hearty python]

Yes, in Japan most Sony products and accessories was much cheaper. Also they got things that was released only there.

[mellow raft]

At that time I think Sony's hardware started dwindling in sales in Japan. They lost a lot of their good reputation with their appliances and TV's I think. They weren't as reliable anymore

They shifted focus to the Western audience

Their DVD and Blu-ray players's lasers (and consoles) often failed too

Lots of stores stopped selling Sony products in Japan

You had to go to a Sony store for them

[chilly ember]

I still have my supercard 2 for my nds from back in the day, remember Nintendo pushing hard against r4 when it was relevant

[mellow raft]

Haha yeah "flashcarts are illegal" on their website for a time. That was eventually taken down I think xD

[chilly ember]

I have a hacked psp now but i completely missed out on it back in the day so i don't know enough about the sotmod scene

[hearty python]

Home Electronics is a hard business. Not much real brands are alive. If I bought a known brand with higher prices I would expect better quality and a longer lifecycle. But often is better to buy cheap Chinese stuff, they live as long as the known brands😂

[chilly ember]

Chinese clones like gdemu are available is the main thing, i'd rather buy a cheap available clone that's almost just as good instead of being on a list with a chance of getting an official version some day

[weary palm]

HELLO GENTLEMEN.

[cinder pagoda]

I have replacement SD card readers for those Clone GDemu’s. Received two Clones that did no read the cards right so I had to replace them.

[chilly ember]

Oh weird, i know I tested at least two of the Chinese clones and they worked but not the third

Hopefully it works xD

[hearty python]

Often you see no difference in the products. But if you would like to do a software update…

[chilly ember]

Rip

If the product never gets updated, is that so bad tho?

When was the last offical gdemu update?

[hearty python]

My gdemu clone runs fine without any updates 😂

[chilly ember]

There's a gdemu clone hack for resident evil code Veronica for a bug that happens

[cinder pagoda]

Well, if anyone here needs readers, I’m here for you 🤣

[chilly ember]

The fact that the code Veronica hack exists, makes me happy

[vapid hawk]

Someone made a hack for that finally?

[wary stag]

Hello. Do games have top be zipped? My games are unzipped and in .z64

[odd vector]

No, it‘s just convenient for disk space

[wary stag]

I don't unstand how it works yet

I have loads on space

[odd vector]

Then you can also have it unzipped, it doesn‘t really matter that much

[wary stag]

Is there a tutorial on how to get it working

Thank you for reply mate

[odd vector]

https://vampier.net/N64 👍

[wary stag]

Thank you

[weary palm]

Do zipped games take longer to load?

[hasty kayak]

Sorry to ask again and if this has already been answered. Is CIFS not supported with the N64 Core at the moment?

[daring meteor]

Why would it not work

[hasty kayak]

That is why I am asking.

[daring meteor]

AFAIK the core doesn't do any filesystem reads/writes barring saving

[hasty kayak]

I have got an N64 Folder on RetroNAS and the Core is defaulting to my SD Card. Other cores are using CIFS with no issues.

So is there something I need to do for this to work e.g. Symlink for MiSTer to the N64 folder?

[daring meteor]

Try a symlink yeah, that's what I do in all the other cores

[hasty kayak]

Remind me the Command I would need to run 🙂

I am not the best when it comes to Linux

[daring meteor]

ln -s

Forgot the order of operations haha

[hasty kayak]

ln -s N64?

[daring meteor]

I think its ln -s N64 /media/fat/mount/N64 or whereevre you got your NAS mounted

[last scarab]

To create a symbolic link, enter:
ln -s /tmp/toc toc

This creates the symbolic link, toc, in the current directory. The toc file points to the /tmp/toc file. If the /tmp/toc file exists, the cat toc command lists its contents.

[hasty kayak]

I am confused which isn't difficult to do

So my CIFS share is mounted to /media/fat/CIFS

Then I have my BIOS, games, saves, savestates and wallpapers folders.

When I go into Games, it doesn't Show N64 which would explain why the Core doesn't pick it up?

How do I go about linking the N64 folder from RetroNAS to CIFS for MiSTer?

My N64 ROMS are here

[daring meteor]

Ah
You could try first of all editing the name to just N64, depends on how its mounted

It should be ln -s /media/fat/CIFS/storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64 /media/fat/games/N64 I think

[limber willow]

I'm a systems engineer who does this at least a few times per month for the past decade, and I still get it wrong half the time lol

I often end up with dead symlinks the first time 😄

[daring meteor]

Haha

[hasty kayak]

hmmm that didn't work at all and doesn't look right.

This is the CIFS contents according to the MiSTer, as you can see no N64 Folder.

But on RetroNAS I have an N64 folder which I reference the Path to earlier on.

[safe robin]

sounds like the directory does not exist?

[limber willow]

@hasty kayak You ran that on your retronas, not on the mister

[little socket]

Upper lowercase?

With the cifs dir

[hasty kayak]

Hang I am even more confused now.

I have always run the Symlink command on RetroNAS

For example I did it for the Genesis to Mega Drive core.

Tried with the lowercase n64, that didn't work, same error message.

[limber willow]

ah okay, I thought you had CIFS setup on your MiSTer, and were trying to symlink the "nintendo64" folder on retronas -> N64 on the SD card.

[hasty kayak]

No trying to do it all with RetroNAS as has been done successfully with other cores 🙂 sorry to confuse.

so my N64 roms are located here /storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64

I wanted to create a symlink to this for MiSTer so it uses that for the N64 ROMS as other cores do.

[limber willow]

So what about:
ls /media/fat
see if the games folder is visible

[hasty kayak]

So where am I running that? if I run that on RetroNAS I get an error.

bash: ls/media/fat: No such file or directory

[limber willow]

you forgot the space after ls

[hasty kayak]

ls: cannot access '/media/fat': No such file or directory

even with the space I get this

[limber willow]

yeah I thought so.
so your fat storage isn't mounted there

[hasty kayak]

Just to confirm this is RetroNAS and it works fine with all other cores.

So if that is the case, why does it work with all the other cores?

[limber willow]

you can type:

mount

by it's self to see where everything is mounted

[hasty kayak]

my roms are mounted to something called storage.

root@retronas:/storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64#

[limber willow]

right, so you'll want to put your symlink there

[hasty kayak]

yes I want to put an N64 symlink to /storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64#

[limber willow]

What I'd do, to see what you did last time, is:
history |grep ln

Then you should see how you did it for the other cores

(copy/paste that to make sure the pipe character is correct)

[hasty kayak]

Ah I didn't set them Manually.

RetroNAS does it as part of its Install script I believe.

[limber willow]

Ah okay.
I haven't used it before, but you'll probably want to keep using that interface rather than doing them manually, especially if it isn't expecting you to do thing manually as root, could cause issues later 🙂

[hasty kayak]

This may have worked.

ln -s /storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64 N64

I will test it

No hasn't worked. Core is still looking at the SD Card folder for N64. Do I need to specify the path to the SD Card?

I am totally confused as to how this Symlink stuff is meant to work.

[pine apex]

maybe you need put database in that folder

[daring meteor]

You sound like the /storage is what you get on your retronas

[hasty kayak]

/storage is what I set it up as following RetroRGB's instructions.

Works fine for all other cores so I did something right 🙂

Hopefully this will do it

ln -s /storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64 /storage/mister/games/N64

ok no that has done something I didn't want 😦

Its put an N64 Folder into /storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64 😦 that isn't what I wanted it to do.

[daring meteor]

Yeah that's the opposite

You want first to specify where you want to go, and after that the link you want to create

[hasty kayak]

I did the link I want to create is /storage/mister/games/N64 and where the source for this is /storage/roms/nintendo/nintendo64

?

So how do I now remove that incorrect link?

[hot spoke]

Has anyone hear built their own DIY raphnet/daemonbite adapter for their N64 controller that works no problem with the new N64 core (i.e. link below)?
https://wermi.neocities.org/posts/raphnet-diy/

[weary beacon]

Is anyone using integer scaling + scanlines with PAL roms? It seems like it's misaligned, the result is not as good as NTSC roms.

[bronze tree]

@weary beacon yes, it's currently not correctly rendered and Robert is aware of the issue

on the N64, the internally rendered image has a couple of filters applied to it (anti aliasing and dedithering) and then it's scaled to the correct resolution, that is still missing from the core.

[zinc dew]

Why not just use an SD card and you don’t have to worry about any of that RetroNAS stuff?

[daring meteor]

Good luck playing PSX

[zinc dew]

Works pretty well for me.

[remote hatch]

I only use sd cards and ssd drive , I don't feel the need to own all the games that came out for the PSX 🙂

because I guess it's only the size of the games and the number of them that could be a problem 🙂

[hasty kayak]

Causes me no issues with RetroNAS when playing PSX games.

[hasty kayak]

I would need a pretty sizeable SD Card for that and would only be able to use them for MiSTer and nothing else.

Having RetroNAS means I can use them with any Software Emulators I still use and until the Saturn Core is close to 100% I can use Fenrir WebServer (to a degree) to run Saturn games across my network too.

[remote hatch]

and this is a very good solution 🙂

[zinc dew]

I found the guy who uses software emulators! Get ‘im!!!

[daring meteor]

Exactly, because you can fit them all unlike Robby haha

[zinc dew]

who wants all the PlayStation games, you’re crazy lol

[neat sierra]

The fairy is so when they go down from the knives and fires they’ll get their hearts back and we can do it again

[zinc dew]

“Ah yes, these 100 sports games really rounds out my emulation experience”

• @daring meteor probably

[daring meteor]

I can't live without Fifa 03

Fifa 04 and 02 are not enough

[zinc dew]

ok fair

You win this round

[remote hatch]

I have a total of 250 PSX games that I wanted to have and I don't need more 🙂

I don't even use CHD

heheheh

[zinc dew]

I have I think 400 lol. Granted unlike y’all I just play on my MiSTer. So my limited scope doesn’t have a need for a RetroNAS. I think it’s real cool though.

I use CHD, my 512GB wouldn’t survive without it lol

[viscid nebula]

So wait the official mister core has the proper support now?

[zinc dew]

seems like it, test it for us

[hasty kayak]

I don't and haven't got that.

But I use RetroNAS for other things too. My Retro PC's use it.

[sly wasp]

We know .RBF stands for RobbyFile..what does CHD stand for?

Controller Hoarding Disorder?

[zinc dew]

Perfect!

[onyx minnow]

compressed hard drive

[blissful plaza]

Compressed Hunks of Data, officially.
More like, Compulsive Hoarding of Data.

[cerulean elk]

It translates to “the hardest thing for anyone new to MAME to get right”

9/10 times someone asks for my help with a CHD game and it’s because they either didn’t get the CHD, didn’t unzip it or didn’t name the folder properly

[onyx minnow]

my first experience with this CHD thing was when CPS3 got implemented into mame, i loaded up SF3 and it took my PC 1 hour to do some CHD thingy to get into the game

[cerulean elk]

Which is 100% fair because it’s def a little confusing 🙂

[onyx minnow]

these days i just see CHD as a way to store games compressed convienently

[mild ether]

Super curious if they would be nabbed by customs if it was authentic.

Or if they are just being dicks about it because they think it's piracy related.

[tropic sand]

Good idea implemented...

N64: also search in N64-database_user.txt for rom info

Having a 2nd user database has the advantage of allowing custom entries
without losing them every time when N64-database.txt is overwritten.```

[cerulean elk]

I don’t think customs would know the diff between GDEMU or a clone

Sounds like idiot custom agents with too much time on their hands

[zinc dew]

Considering the literal zero drawbacks, every disc image is compressed using CHD

[mild ether]

Pretty thankful US customs is inept or unwilling to do their job in most cases. I get pert near everything I order from overseas. Including prescription medication that they inspected and still sent to my house.

[cerulean elk]

They don’t care. If it doesn’t go BOOM it is fine

[lament escarp]

Is the saturn core compatible by now?

[zinc dew]

Nope, the only one!

[mild ether]

It's great.

[cerulean elk]

Of all the shit I get in from out of the country I’ve never even seen evidence they’ve opened a package

Chicago customs doesn’t do their jobs

They do incorrectly apply duty sometimes though. I’ve had to get a few refunds on items that should not have been taxed. Shockingly easy though

[zinc dew]

Yeah mine goes through Chicago customs all the time. They just sleep on the job and delay things, that’s it

[mild ether]

Yeah most my stuff goes through Chicago and they do open it on occasion and it takes them damn near forever to do it when that happens. They send it anyway even if it's not legal to import. Occasionally I get hit up for my importer ID.

[cerulean elk]

oh they def arent quick

[mild ether]

I think the importer ID stuff was Memphis though for FedEx now that I think of it.

[cerulean elk]

Tokyo to Chicago...24 hours. Customs in chicago...a week. Airport to my home IN chicago...another 3 days

[zinc dew]

lol yeah

I once bought something on Amazon Japan and it got to my house the next day, what the hell lol

[mild ether]

Makes paying a fortune for express shipping feel great doesn't it?

[cerulean elk]

well it IS express from Japan to Chicago 😆

[cerulean elk]

they bypass customs

[zinc dew]

Yeah DHL

[cerulean elk]

big enough to have their "own line"

even if shipped with a third party their stuff is cleared and approved before it gets put in a box

[quick arch]

For Dinosaur Planet what is the last patch enhanced update works on the current core ? For me I have the patch of 03 may 2023 that work on my side.

[mild ether]

Yeah, I have no complaints about FedEx service from Japan they are real quick and I get it in one piece. Got a spare Sega Blast City monitor in perfect condition from Japan through them and I was impressed. Getting CRTs shipped is usually a disaster.

Especially an arcade monitor in just a metal frame.

[cerulean elk]

https://youtu.be/7rupacaGMcM