Nintendo 64

[cerulean elk]

Steak time

[bronze cliff]

😂

[rose elbow]

it's official

[dreamy ridge]

do you know how many forum posts out there where people get nasty every time someone brought up the possibility that someone would try to tackle an n64 core? lol

[rose elbow]

i was doing this last week out of curousity/boredom lol

searching redddit posts on this very topic

n64 is never coming sorry

[zinc dew]

That’s weird, why did people act that way?

[dreamy ridge]

can't tell you bro. every few months i would randomly search what new cores were being developed and it was a really consistent trend i noticed

[rose elbow]

i think it's just reactionary coz the questoins would normally come from people who don't have a mister and that line of thinking about "can it do x?" as opposed to looking at what it can do annoys people LOL

[cerulean elk]

Because they enjoy it

I put up a community post on YT today…about my normal life…not gaming life. Three held comments already from people saying one form or another “I’m glad she died”…so yeahhhhhhh

[rose elbow]

there was a thread on the reddit just today about the cost of mister and i posted what i paid in 2019 and had people argueing with me "no you didnt" 🤷‍♂️

[cerulean elk]

Lol people suck. Final conclusion. Submit it to the journals

[stuck summit]

Specially considering the state of N64 software emulation to this day

[rose elbow]

can u block people on youtube? would be sick to just say like "ok, bye. ure banned from watching my videos with comments like that" LOL

[cerulean elk]

Haha I can ban commenters

I do all the time

[sonic kiln]

People like feeling superior to others by correcting them. Good thing the “smart” people were proven wrong this time. Although I would never have entertained the possibility of an N64 core myself

[rose elbow]

yeah i didnt think it was possible

not that i know anything, but i just was trying to set expectations for myself hehe

[cerulean elk]

People tell me all the time in videos the 3DO M2 never existed and there are no games. When I am showing the hardware and playing games in the videos 🤣

[rose elbow]

no you're not

LOL

[stuck summit]

I always thought I'd be stuck using real hardware for the foreseeable future. Software emulation just wasn't a very good alternative

[rose elbow]

you definitely need a thick skin for putting content up like that on youtube

[stuck summit]

I guess it's improving now but it's still not quite there for me. Too many timing errors, some games still run too fast etc

[rose elbow]

the comments must be maddening but maybe u can get used to it and learn to laugh at it

[sonic kiln]

I love my original hw tho. And still prefer it generally when I have it and I can get clean video

[stuck summit]

Me too but honestly, the maintenance gets annoying. I had to replace some caps on mine, and it worked fine for a year but now it's freezing again. Probably some other caps failing.

[cerulean elk]

It’s all CGI 🤣

[scarlet prawn]

Get this man a CRT 😉

[dusty tusk]

Tech nerds can often be a bit elitist unfortunately. I always figured someone would tackle N64 eventually even if it wasn't viable fully

[ruby falcon]

Heck yeah

I've been making skirt steak with dill, absolutely amazing stuff

[balmy dagger]

I saw that post. Raising a glass to her tonight, dude. Thank you for all you do.

[sonic kiln]

On your psu or on your console? I did a full recap with my N64Digital install

My psu was being annoying yesterday. Random reboots. Adding some tape to the outside casing of the power supply did the trick

[little bane]

If I'm correct it could be the capacitors or reflowing the RCP

[night saddle]

Recorded my first video with the N64 core. MK64 with a CRT cam to show the dual 1440p/analog output already possible on the core. My first time trying it on CRT and it worked flawlessly 🤩

[little bane]

@stuck summit You can with hot air from a good distance only in the RCP (I recommend protecting the other components), Only if the recap doesn't work

[sonic kiln]

My symptoms are sometimes the system reboots after 10 mins of intense gameplay. I think it was the power supply but not sure.

Being loose in there

This was after recap tho

[little bane]

Honestly, it's very rare to see a PSU fail, one of the best PSUs , i have two that has 25 years old or more, and to date, no problems.

[sonic kiln]

I think it’s not the psu failing it’s the contacts not connecting and being loose

People talked about putting some tape or card stock on the outside where it fits in and that’s mostly worked for me

[little bane]

Capacitor contacts?

[sonic kiln]

No the connection between the psu and the system

[little bane]

I understand, I would open it and give it a thorough cleaning with isopropyl alcohol.

[inner garden]

wave race so good. I like it with Mega AGS filter

[sonic kiln]

Used contact cleaner and Deoxit on it too

[little bane]

Strange, maybe it's good to look or secure a replacement PSU

[weary beacon]

starcraft 64 seems to be running well. Sans some gfx glitches in some of the opening menus. I was wrong and figured it would be one of the hardest to run.

[grave island]

How do you save in OOT? The one guy says to press start and then B, but when I do that nothing happens.

[weary beacon]

he is correct. find out what button is bound to B key.

[grave island]

I have it bound to Square on my controller.

[weary beacon]

you might be confused by using the gamecube version as it shows different colors.

[grave island]

I'm using the lodgenet version.

[quaint rune]

Zelink having trouble with Lezelda 🥁🎶

But yeah I dunno anything about lodgenet stuff ☹️ a different adult will have to chime in on that one.

[weary beacon]

did they save to the memory card? so that you could take it from hotel to hotel?

[cerulean elk]

Happy to do it. It’s always a fun time 🙂

[grave island]

Lodgenet is the only rom I can get to work. The other roms just show a little yellow line at the top left.

[weary beacon]

That's gotta be your issue. Check your archives for a gamecube version.

[ocean lily]

pretty sure there is no saving in the lodgenet version

GC version works fine for me - just annoying the buttons are mislabeled for an N64 controller

[weary beacon]

someone posted something about a hack that reverts those changes. I need to go look for that

[native mesa]

What are the best hacks out there? I have smash remix and Mario kart amped up

[teal citrus]

At this point, they should probably update that info already.

[eternal island]

they might think they are villains of the comments.. but the real villain is the one who made you interrupt your "reply to every comment" chain!

[desert crow]

you may have it already if you have a hacks folder, or can look here https://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=5161.0

[cerulean elk]

Haha I never mind the comments. Just from broken people

[eternal island]

actually.. would the one who breaks the chain of replying to every comment be the villain or the hero

[marble cargo]

I'm guessing Pokémon Stadium 2 doesn't support saving yet?

[viscid nebula]

Mario odyssey 64

[grave island]

Thanks, GC version works.

[viscid nebula]

Also sm64 split screen coop

I have a version with midair jumping, infinite health and lives for both players

Dm if anyone wants it

[mortal apex]

I got in Kaze's only up 64, but it was extremely glitchy. Not a pleasant experience, but I never saw it boot before.

Lots of flickering I don't recommend trying it. Plus it made the osd go crazy, it wouldn't stop saving I had to hard reset.

[chilly ember]

I've been testing that with the last few builds and never got it to work. Neat to see it runs

[mortal apex]

I had to backward somersault my way out of the starting zone because it crashes after a few steps. The camera goes nuts, but after a while you can control mario without instantly crashing the game.

[rose elbow]

i got gc oot to work but some of the character faces (not all, more generic npc faces) are pretty corrupted. other people getting this too ?

[mortal apex]

Party eyes?

[rose elbow]

cool not just me. was wanting to make sure coz was jumping around a few oot variations

thx

[mortal apex]

no problem

[brisk drum]

Lol some tracks in cruisn exotica look like they are floating in the sky

The music in this series certainly is something else as well , reminds me of the Sonic R soundtrack

[orchid nimbus]

yeah I posted 2 pics of her before 😄 lol

epic

I wonder what causes this

[ebon oyster]

w00t! Brawler 64 NSO edition pairs with my Mayflash Magic-S in Switch Pro mode just fine.

[brisk drum]

Awww man if anyone is looking for something to play just boot up cruisn exotica

[zinc dew]

yeah but no scenery!

[mortal apex]

Yeah I saw, its a haunting stare! I think it's top three in terms of creepy stuff this core has produced during development.

[dense chasm]

How do you update the mister file for the stick fix while its running? Been a while since I tinkered

[cerulean elk]

Someone found some molly in the woods. Must be a lab somewhere 🤣

[brisk drum]

I really dig the floating tracks

Reminds me of rainbow road

[zinc dew]

yah true

[brisk drum]

The Atlantis track is looking proper

Seems like all the trackside detail is there

[cerulean elk]

Which game we talking?

[orchid nimbus]

Zelda Spirit Tracks

[cerulean elk]

That’s the one where he drives an 18 wheeler and it was made by Sega right?

[random portal]

I thought having Star Soldier Vanishing Earth playable would satisfy me.

[eternal island]

wanna try mario 64 b3313 but the mario face

[random portal]

bayken, add Smash Remix to your next video :D

[brisk drum]

Cruisn exotica

[cerulean elk]

It was in yesterdays

How much Remix do you need? 🤣

[random portal]

Oh, I must have not noticed haha I just found out it existed today

[hollow orbit]

That bad?

[languid dune]

This is my sleep paralysis demon.

[eternal island]

kinda makes smash 64 feel a bit like melee

[random portal]

it's not bad at all, in fact it's the game I always assumed it was. it's the fact that I now wonder if there are other 3D shmups on the 64.

[fair stump]

BUSTED kannibal hasn't been thoroughly watching the update videos

[cerulean elk]

Mine is an oil covered Gordon’s fisherman (seriously)

And he has a hook in his hand 😬

[random portal]

I mostly watch the VGE videos to see if any of my favorite games are running now.

😆

specially Saturn updates

[cerulean elk]

He hasn’t shown up since I was on vacation in Peru in 2019 though so maybe he’s gone

[cerulean elk]

Thursday for Saturn

[random portal]

B A S E D 😎

[languid dune]

Magic Knight Rayearth time!

[cerulean elk]

I can’t even remember what I put in lol and I only made it last week

[eternal island]

i tried to beat that, but the game beat me in only the beginning

so much dialog. too much dialog

[languid dune]

Your brain has been fried by all the core updates lately.

[eternal island]

i was on a voice chat with a buddy at the time wondering if it worked, and it kind of degraded to me mashing the button saying "shut up you tiny kids. please just let me hit something"

... it never did

[cerulean elk]

Is it you who loves Incredible Crisis?

[languid dune]

Nah, I'm a Dragon Force and Magic Knight Rayearth guy.

🌮 and I form the Dragon Force alliance!

[cerulean elk]

Ok then. Someone’s been asking for it for forever and it’s tomorrow

But holy shit “what why” has been a LOSING series lol

[languid dune]

Nooo! It's been fantastic!

I need my Pepsi Man episode still!

[cerulean elk]

I think so too. But the views disagree lol. Too niche. But that won’t stop me

[cerulean elk]

Maybe. We will see

[languid dune]

Dang it Youtube viewers. Get with the program and watch weird!

[cerulean elk]

YT just will not push my stranger content

[languid dune]

Youtube just doesn't understand the majesty that is Mister Mosquito.

[cerulean elk]

Haha just how it is. A MiSTer vid can do 1K views in an hour where a MiSTer mosquito takes a day

[quasi storm]

Sorry, I'm at work. But that's what I meant. Cache Latency. Try setting it to 10. Your mileage may vary.

[azure hatch]

At the rate that things are advancing when does everyone predict that the n64 core will be on the update all script?

[ocean lily]

when he says it's done

[mild tree]

I feel like I've gotta be missing something simple here 🤔 I've been trying to get this to work for a while, and can't seem to get anything besides a black screen and controller mappings when booting into the N64 core. I've manually copied the files over from the site, I've tried using the update_n64 script a few times, and I've tried a few different boot.rom files. But no matter what I do, I get a black screen after selecting the N64 core.

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

[azure hatch]

To me at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if it's before christmas

[solid crest]

Does Mario Kart work?

[mortal panther]

Try any of the unstable MiSTer main files since 20230818 yet from #unstable-nightlies?

[mild tree]

It won't even load up a list of games after selecting the core. I've got the N64-Database.txt file in /games/N64 directory too.

[mild tree]

Yup! I'm using the one from today

[solid crest]

Are the game zipped?

[mild tree]

No, all .z64 files

[worn delta]

And you can bring up the core OSD OK?

[mild tree]

Yeah, that's what's weirding me out. I attached a video that shows exactly what I'm seeing from boot to selecting the core and getting nothing

[rose elbow]

could it be an ini setting? i vaguely recall pal roms and vsync adjust 2 was causing issues for someone

[mild tree]

I'm willing to try whatever! Could def be an ini thing

[worn delta]

I would make sure you have the the correct.pif files renamed boot.rom and boot1.rom in the N64 folder, you can find them using the FAQ

[mild tree]

I haven't tried the ones from the FAQ yet! I'll give those a shot

[quasi storm]

Check the hash against the one listed on vampier's FAQ.

[worn delta]

Make sure you haven't run update script or update all after you have run the N64 updater as well, as that will revert you back to stable Main

[amber saffron]

How do you generate a ROM patch file?

I've got the modified rom and the original rom. I assume there is a diff util or something

[quasi storm]

You need an ipS patcher

I'm assuming the mod is a dot ips?

[amber saffron]

Oh as in, I've modified the rom myself, and want to produce an IPS

[solid crest]

Many rom patching software will let you create patches

[paper orchid]

https://vampier.net/N64/ The ROM patcher linked here has a "creator mode" IIRC

[amber saffron]

Thanks, I'll look around, I'd only used the JS based one.

[amber saffron]

Thanks!

[quasi storm]

Oh, dang... I was way off 😆

[amber saffron]

oh wow

it does too, I didn't notice the creator mode toggle, thanks!

[quasi storm]

Okay, I missed that. Pretty dang cool!

[teal oyster]

hi everybody

I have a question regarding the database thing

[amber saffron]

Patch is here, this one uses SRAM for save instead of EEPROM, so change your settings appropriately.

See above

[teal oyster]

is this merely a tool that we are using as a "band aid", and eventually the core will be so mature that it will not be needed?

[mortal panther]

Not sure yet

[worn delta]

No, this will be like how the Neo Geo core works, but the .txt file will be added to Main

That is my understanding anyway

[solid crest]

What would the benefit of this?

[amber saffron]

So far it doesn't seem to crash. The SRAM thing was me playing, but I don't know if its helpful or not 😛

[teal oyster]

ah, cool ty for sharing

[native mesa]

It's just gonna suck for patches down the road

[grave island]

I found the original patch that was posted and saving seems to be working fine.

[native mesa]

How does everdrive handle it?

[amber saffron]

Awesome! Which one was that? No crashes too?

[teal oyster]

I wonder what is special about the n64 that it requires this text file, say, versus the ps1

[amber saffron]

Its possible that the cartridge features were determined via another chip / electrical property on the cart, rather than the ROM itself.

Thats my speculation though.

[grave island]

@amber saffron #1096015979055697940 message

[teal oyster]

ah, good point

carts!

[amber saffron]

Tbh though, that raises the everdrive question again

so I've got no idea 😛

[solid crest]

The CIC chip on the cartridge talks to the console and writes to ram. The software checks that part of ram to work. The CIC information is not part of the roms. So the database is need.

[teal oyster]

I see, thanks

[mortal panther]

Could have the core default to a particular CIC type if it's a custom/patched ROM... that is, if most custom/patched ROMs expect a particular CIC.

[teal citrus]

I wonder how Kaze's SM64 rom hacks even run on the core!

Usually he uses certain trick hacks that usually works only on software-based emulation.

Unless he has lately being making his hacks OG hardware-compatible.

[teal oyster]

well, I loaded up a patched super mario 64 rom, and it said "no database entry" or something, and yet it still worked...

so I dunno

I guess it will just default to some setting if it's not found

[native mesa]

Whatever it was last

[teal oyster]

makes sense

[solid crest]

A workaround that works already- for example with an SM64 hack. Boot vanilla SM64 then boot the hack.

[hearty oar]

this has probably been explained elsewhere, but does anyone know how software emulators avoid the need for a database file? Do they?

[mortal panther]

Yeah, maybe the core already does that. I know I've changed the CIC value, saved settings after making changes elsewhere, and it chose that one on next core boot.

[zinc dew]

I believe its to identify the different CIC chips per game mainly. Also to know how to handle different save types

[grave island]

Was it this recent release where games ran much better. I swear the version released before had way more slowdown.

[mild tree]

Hmm, that doesn't seem to have worked. I'm getting the same thing. I've double-checked the SHA1s of my boot.rom and boot1.rom, and they match what's on the FAQ

[mortal panther]

Also which Paks are supported/expected per game.

[grave island]

It feels like full speed now, or really close to it.

[teal oyster]

I did notice when I was playing SM64, that saving wasn't working

[zinc dew]

The default core setting of CIC 6102 is what most games used.

[solid crest]

I am mostly sure N64 software emulators have databases

[mortal panther]

The addition of the CPU cache helped tremendously with speed increases in-game.

[teal citrus]

Is that how Doom also works with its mods?

[worn delta]

Maybe give the MiSTer a reboot, maybe something weird happened.

[hearty oar]

I guess that's the answer to my question, just try some sensible defaults

[zinc dew]

Yeah the default save type of the core is set to none. Needs to be EEPROM4.

[teal oyster]

awesome, I'm learning so much, thanks everyone

[solid crest]

Most homebrew and most (not all) hacks do not have copy protection/anti privacy

[zinc dew]

I also learned all this thanks to the core lol

[teal oyster]

I'm glad I finally decided to check out Robert's work

super impressive as always

[mortal panther]

Thanks to Robert's willingness to patiently explain all of this as he learns it.

[teal oyster]

yeah, he truly rules

[teal citrus]

Ah. Got it.

[zinc dew]

Oh yeah definitely. If you want a cheat sheet as to what’s playable check out the pins

[mild tree]

Yeah, I've rebooted a couple times. Sadly, still nothing. I appreciate you trying to help out!

[teal oyster]

already on it 🙂

[mortal panther]

Pluggin' your pins again, I see. 😉

[zinc dew]

Spreadsheet gives the full info, tells you what’s bootable

[mortal panther]

(as well you should) 😛

[teal oyster]

yeah, the usual support team are doing their thing, and it's great, even better than with the PS1

this place rulez

oh btw @worn delta grats on your moddination 🎉

well deserved

[mortal panther]

PS1 didn't have Robby back then.

[worn delta]

Actually, maybe check your ROM file sizes. And make sure if you are copying them over using an FTP client like FileZilla you have it set to binary not ASCII, that seems to have caught people out who wound up with 0byte files

[native mesa]

Ah so if I'm understanding things correctly everdrive uses 'ultracic III' which is a universal CIC? https://github.com/ManCloud/UltraCIC-III

[zinc dew]

Ohhhh that’s neat

[mortal panther]

Well that's pretty cool...

[worn delta]

Thanks mate 🙂

[mild tree]

I've just been copying them over via USB with the MicroSD. My ROM file sizes look normal, SM64 is 8.4MB. OoT is 33.6MB. Nothing that's 0bytes. My games are all from the no-intro archive, just unzipped into .z64 files and copy/pasted into /games/N64/

[quasi storm]

Also, if an entry isn't found, and a game was loaded prior that had an entry it will just use that.

[weary palm]

That's a big patch

[dreamy ridge]

https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/ap/rnd/202207/1112/KFKVecIvHOhB8uHMrBVwFSRL.png

[mortal panther]

...64

[dreamy ridge]

lmao

[zinc dew]

lol wat

Damn, Bangaioh looks perfect but it crashes soon after loading into a level

[quasi storm]

Love the report for ECW hardcore revolution in the sheet. Not just pixel garbage, but HIGH-RES pixel garbage. 🤣

[hexed knot]

Who sorted the Spreadsheet

[quasi storm]

Not sure. I hesitated before doing that, wondering if it would be just for me or not. Turns out my theory was correct.

[solid crest]

The CIC code written ram when the core is freshly load is the one used by Mario Kart and Super Mario 64 (and several others)

[quasi storm]

It actually doesn't look too bad this way. It's nice to see the "No boot" section all groups together.

And it's still alphabetical.

[hexed knot]

Yeah, it's a shared Spreadsheet, every change is reflected for everyone else.

[inner garden]

Yoshi’s Story looks great until gameplay

[quasi storm]

Does the maintainer have access to a log, or something?

[hexed knot]

There's a version history. I can see who did it, but there's a lot of edits after the change. If I were to revert it before that version, that's lots of lost data.

[quasi storm]

Like I said, it looks more organized now. Will it keep sorting when status is changed? I'm guessing not.

[paper orchid]

I had to deal with people resorting a sheet back when I had to deal with Google Sheets at work

[quasi storm]

Just for the record. I know it sounds like it was me, but it wasn't... 😆

[paper orchid]

The only suggestion I can offer is: if you can get the sheet back into the original order, add an ID column and just assign starting from 1

When someone sorts the sheet, resort it by that ID column

[quasi storm]

They were just alphabetical before, just resort it?

[paper orchid]

If it's just alphabetical order then yeah, basically that

[quasi storm]

I'm wondering if someone didn't fully realize the scope of their change.

[paper orchid]

Oh actually, I wish I knew about this

https://stackoverflow.com/a/73584055

Basically: add a hidden column that's all empty and restrict the permission. When a person goes to sort it, it forces them into a local filter instead of a global sort for all users

[hexed knot]

I'm unsure how to sort multiple rows, if someone knows and would like to try to revert it, go for it.

I don't want to mismatch the rows/columns.

[quasi storm]

Welp... imma run through it and remove all the trailing Es. I thought I heard someoneention it would be better for data.

Alright. Imma try it. Wish me luck...

[paper orchid]

Think I've got it, basically select the range of data, then Data > Sort Range

If you start the selection in column A I believe it'll have you use that as the "key"

[hexed knot]

Looks good, thanks!

[paper orchid]

As a heads-up

[quasi storm]

I think it's sorted. Just long pressed the column on mobile, and sorted a-z. The rest went with it

[paper orchid]

Don't start at A1 (the header)

The header on the USA sheet went down to row 83

Or if you do select all of them for the range, there's uhh

Click the advanced option instead of one of the two

Then click "Data has header row", and it should say "Sort by Game"

[quasi storm]

Reverted. I'm at work 😆

[hexed knot]

Good to know.

[paper orchid]

Should be sorted now with the header

[quasi storm]

Just saying I have limited time to dick with it in one chunk

I tried. When it went pear shaped I threw my hands up 🤣

[paper orchid]

I'm on an iPad so it's a bit of a pain to deal with, on my end, otherwise I'd resort all these

[iron trail]

Oh wow this is really neat, thank you

[hexed knot]

oh my god they've all been sorted like that?

[paper orchid]

Yeahhhh, at least from what I can see

[quasi storm]

Dude, I'm on freaking android.

[paper orchid]

Well then! 🤣

I don't blame you for not wanting to mess with it then

[quasi storm]

"freaking night shift. Screwing up the databases.."

[paper orchid]

But yeah, I think if we shove a column somewhere in the middle of the sheet e.g. between game title and status, then permissions set to prevent anything in that column from being modified, I think that'll force any sorting to be as a temp filter on the user's end

[hexed knot]

Alright, the affected sheets have been reverted back to alphabetical.

[dense chasm]

I see the vampier script updates the unstable main, will that nuke the joystick fix if I run it next update?

[fair stump]

Nighttime chat, I'm here to say episode one racer is excellent

[cerulean elk]

Nighttime chat. I’m going to bed

[elfin relic]

it's like noon thirty, I need to eat some lunch

[quasi storm]

Must be nice living clear across the globe...

[elfin relic]

actually, yes

[ebon oyster]

Brawler 64 NSO Bluetooth controller + Mayflash MAGIC-S Ultimate pairs and works, but analog stick's range is huge (-127 to 127 along each axis) according to the tester ROM. Feels okay in Mario 64 but feels overly sensitive in Hexen. Would the pinned message about a custom Linux image/driver for NSO apply to my situation, given that the Mayflash (rather than normal Bluetooth) is what's handling all the wireless connectivity? Any other way to adjust the analog stick sensitivity?

[hearty oar]

nah, so you want @lone geyser 's custom MiSTer main build that can clamp the range for any controller

[ebon oyster]

Does that also contain all the latest commits from MiSTer unstable?

Clamping the range won't change sensitivity though, right? Just caps the min/max values?

[hearty oar]

no, it should fix the sensitivity, it's not just a simple clamp, but rather yeah a range shrink

also yeah it has whatever commits from when they built it lol - the version in the pinned post should be somewhat recent

[lone geyser]

It does both

[ebon oyster]

Where can I find the code diff? I can build it against HEAD of Main_MiSTer myself.

[lone geyser]

Scales to 96 and clamps to the line given by x=85-y/4 in the wedge in the first quadrant nearest to the x axis

[lone geyser]

https://github.com/Lemonici/Main_MiSTer/tree/master

[ebon oyster]

Thanks! I'll give it a go.

[quasi storm]

"Aw sheeit. Here we go again..."

[hearty oar]

also yeah re the Linux driver for NSO - it does apply to the Brawler in BT mode, but it's totally broken, something about how the controller tries to report itself is different to first party controllers. Pretty much every third party controller actually is broken under the hid-nintendo driver unfortunately

so yeah definitely stick to your mayflash thing for now

[noble ember]

Grabbed this today but wondering what is a good adapter to use with MiSTer?

[regal prism]

n64 snax is in development

that or it's snac i don't remember off the top of my head

Until that comes you can probably just find some cheap adaptor

As a sort of hold-over

[hearty oar]

Timville just posted about their sweet new multi adaptor which also does N64, if you're interested: #controllers message

[noble ember]

@hearty oar yea I saw. Wondering about latency

[hearty oar]

willing to bet it is excellent, but yeah no data unfortunately

there is also the Reflex-adapt from MisterAddons, but that is currently out of stock afaik

[topaz otter]

the latency is still gonna be less than what you'd have playing it on an emulator + xbox controller + pc + LCD screen

which is really the worst way to play it as far as response time goes

[hearty oar]

you can also try the Raphnet adaptor, which also has a DIY version apparently

so yeah, a few options out there

[noble ember]

@hearty oar yea I actually considered the Reflex

[weary palm]

85-abs(y/4)

[lone geyser]

That makes it correct for 2 wedges but still leaves 6, haha

[weary palm]

Have you thought about keeping track of the biggest radius given by the joystick and normalizing that to 96?

Like having an initial max set to like 48 or something.

[lone geyser]

That binary does something similar, actually but it's just a binary threshold at 110

[weary palm]

That would allow scaling of pretty much any joystick, regardless of restrictor and range.

[lone geyser]

It would also add some float point operations but that's not the biggest deal

I'm taking advantage of the fact that 127 - (127 >> 2) = 96

[onyx minnow]

duke nukem 64 works well now, the sprites visible behind walls is fixed

[weary palm]

Yes, that's how you do 0.75×something with integers

You could do outX = (x << 7) / maxRadius or something. No floating point necessary

Or rather (x << 7 - x << 5) / max

I don't think floating point is that taxing, anyways. It's not a 6502 we're talking about here.

[vapid hawk]

the fpu on the arm is probably more idle than the alu anyway

[wanton sun]

my development methods for ps1 and n64 are mostly similar. I looked more in the n64 core for logic usage and tried to keep it small, but that's about it. However, there are plenty of things i wish i had done different for other cores, e.g. GBA, but it's to late now. Maybe some day i tackle it again.

[wanton sun]

please, no! I understand that many of you like them, but i just don't want to play on any.

[zealous hull]

I have a CRT--a small cheap one from my childhood--most of the appeal of the actual picture is drowned out by the incessant ringing. Perhaps that's just because it was cheap?

So--I prefer HDMI. There are a lot of perks choosing to forgo a CRT.

[zealous hull]

I truly don't want to bug you about it--and I only bring it up since you mention GBA--but if you do ever decide to go back to the GBA, would you consider implementing Link-Cable/Transfer-Cable SNAC support to bring it to parity with the Gameboy core?

I'd be half tempted to ship you a Gamecube and link cable for testing/debugging.

No worries either way, of course.

[wanton sun]

i played n64 on a ~50cm CRT and i don't want to complain about it. I was lucky as teenager i had my own TV. Still, i was barely able to read text on it if it was smaller, because it was so blurry. I don't want to get back to that

[wanton sun]

The problem with that is i'm no expert for anything external to the FPGA and it brings no fun for me, just pain. Redoing GBA however would make it much easier to implement such a feature and some one could pick it up better

[zealous hull]

That's more than fair. I was just curious. Regardless--I'm far far more excited about this core than I could ever be for link cable capabilities. I just finished another session of Mario Kart 64.

[regal prism]

You lose the ability to hear that sound as you get older

[zealous hull]

Something to look forward to then!

[lone geyser]

Good stuff right here. I just like optimization, haha. I've tried to avoid float point operations out of a naive assumption that they're more difficult/expensive to implement in FPGA, which I think is the most likely place for the code in the end

[orchid nimbus]

I think my hearing drops of at 12K hz now

I used to hear the sweet rining/high pitch of the CRT when I was young

then metal happened and walkmans

[hearty oar]

it depends on the type of noise, my old consumer TV that has never been serviced in 25+ years has nice high pitched squeal

my PVM that has had some key caps replaced is more of a low hum

[orchid nimbus]

TV was brand new

we're talking about 1983 or so

[hearty oar]

haha, maybe my TV was always like that, I've probably just forgotten

[worldly quartz]

I have a CRT in my play area but I only use it for light gun games

[orchid nimbus]

I fire mine up once a while to have nostalgic memories

[ebon oyster]

Thanks @lone geyser -- your changes work great for me. But now I'm able to notice more easily how bad the input lag is in Hexen. Seems to be unique to that game. Weird.

[rose elbow]

when i first got my 2nd hand CRT couple years back, i was instantly noticing the ring and having disgusted thoughts about myself for buying into something so silly and horrible... got used to it within a week or so LOL

How am i ever going to get used to this??? Wait, it's gone never mind.

[orchid nimbus]

I have a constant rining in my ears anyway

Tinutus and hyperacusis combined - it's a lot of fun walking outdoors during spring/summer

i put a small cotton ball in my right ear

[rose elbow]

i get the occassional ringing that lasts like ~10 seconds. i always figured that was something different than what people refer to as tinitus but quick google says its tinitus 🤷‍♂️ heh

[dusty tusk]

For me, the beauty of CRTs is purely from a technical standpoint. It fascinates me in the way old trains and pinball table mechanisms all work together

[rose elbow]

does that involve using them and looking at them?

i love cranking the brightnes super high and playing SMB1 for example, or any fast paced game against a black backdrop. like in SMB1 underground levels when the light ghosting is really noticable. it's soooo pleasing on the eyes 😍

[dusty tusk]

Both. Physical parts moving around is neat

I swear I remember hearing about a potential almost eink like television format that allows for pixels to be an arbitrary size, that would be neat

[ebon oyster]

twss

[rose elbow]

i definitely love CRT's for all the CRT-y flaws and unique qualities. and just on an earlier comment on text being illegible or blurry. using RGB or SCART kinda inputs on a Trinitron or nicely maintained good quality CRT is definitely like.. completely different experience with what i grew up with.

[dusty tusk]

Honesty for as much as people harp on about scanlines and shadowmasks, my recent jvc with component in was very subtle with either effects

I think it's why I prefer scanline filters that only exist when you look long enough

[hearty oar]

it's the motion clarity for me, the closest we can get to that with current sample and hold displays is BFI and there are obviously issues with brightness that you need to then work around

also yeah totally agree, on my 800tvl PVM the scanlines are surprisingly subtle and just fade away when you are playing

[rose elbow]

i had concerns that like, getting a really nice CRT with nice inputs might bypass some of the effects i was wanting to get or it might be "too clean and pristine" but nope. nice CRTs are very nice 😅

[dusty tusk]

My next TV will likely be an oled for convenience, and those get pretty close, but there's small things about CRTs that don't get mentioned much. Like how images that fade to and form black also have the image shrink or grow as well

[rose elbow]

yeah

all this talk of CRTS and how much i love them. one of the 2 i got is currently out of service and it's too big for me to bother getting repaired atm

it's obviously good and bad haha

[dusty tusk]

Also, I feel like I'm crazy saying this, but with component in on the CRT, that genesis filter that mimics a weaker signal had the shimmer effect work while also looking cleaner than the hdmi output

[rose elbow]

ohh i need to look at that

theres a really bad game on genesis.. TaleSpin.. but i have nostalgia for it LOL

and the see through water effect on just level 1 in that game is brutal. it's worth booting and looking at just to see how bad it looks raw via hdmi

[eternal ravine]

I don't mind using composhite output for some 8- and 16-bit consoles
With a CRT, of course
It's still nice that light guns and 3D glasses "just work"

Heck, I'll even use RF for classics like the OG Famicom and the SG-1000

Not really a fan of making destructive mods to HW that old

[rose elbow]

which sg1000 is that? ive only ever seen the Mk3 in person and it's the coolest thing ever in terms of design. aesthetically one of my favourite consoles i think aha

it looks like something out of Alien or Mass Effect

[eternal ravine]

The Mark II
But I also have the SC-3000 with native composite output

[rose elbow]

awesome

[eternal ravine]

With a smaller CRT, you really get that retro vibe

[rose elbow]

they're so cool, i def understand not wanting to mess with those too much beyond maintenance

[eternal ravine]

I usually recap and clean the insides up

[worldly quartz]

if my crt dies, I'm whatever about it tbh

[rose elbow]

if my circumstance allows for it i'd still like to have one around coz i do love em

i can also understand parents and just, sane normal people in general saying "hellllll no"

[ebon oyster]

OMG... best glitch ever.

[remote hatch]

I have three 14 inch crt, but I only use them for retro events

[weary palm]

That looks exactly like what happens when you slightly lift the left side of the cartridge.

[ebon oyster]

Well... no cartridge here, just an unfinished core 😆

[weary palm]

https://youtu.be/noyI7zZKu74 lower your volume

[trim seal]

Oh hey, latest core fixes that bush transparency in front of Tooty in the intro. Nice to see these little improvements.

[lone geyser]

@bronze tree had a lot to do with it (frankly more than I did, I just have the latest version actually published)

[ebon oyster]

Wow... that does look and sound remarkably similar!

[thick terrace]

is there a way to calibrate the joystick? I have a $14 no name usb n64 type controller, and it seems really twitchy. I keep way oversteering with the slightest touch. Granted I;m 57 years old and haven't driven a real vehicle since the 80's. I had a 1970 ford maverick with manual steering and wrecked it when I was 22 and considered it an omen...

[ebon oyster]

I wonder if this means the cartridge ROM data isn't being fed consistently fast enough to the core or something.

[random portal]

I joined the Smash Remix discord and I wanna be sure I passed along the correct information to someone asking between MiSTer and N64 through RetroTink. I don't have a RetroTink so I can't speak for that.

[lone geyser]

#1096015979055697940 message
Scale is off relative to an original controller. Replace your main MiSTer file with that and see if it feels more nostalgic

[obtuse field]

In this video he does show his face. Scam?
https://youtu.be/LlcQxc3-V7Q?feature=shared&t=53

[eternal ravine]

@ebon oyster
Steven Seagal style
Lay on back and let belly do the work

[thick terrace]

seems better. Thanks

[weary palm]

@lone geyser I'm glad you implemented autodetection, your solution is great

Worst case is a controller that has a range that is 111 or something or much less than 96, but I don't know how realistic that is.

[heady mason]

no more red squares around sprites?

Nice 🙂

[weary palm]

That's a homebrew version of Doom, not Doom 64

[mossy needle]

Diddy Kong Racing is just about completable

[hollow rune]

Where can't you get further?

[mossy needle]

Still need to do the time trials to get t-t

[hollow rune]

Now I understand

[mossy needle]

It's more of a time and skill thing than a core thing lol

I'll do it tomorrow

[hollow rune]

The TT stuff is not easy. I think my Dad did it. We have TT on our cartridge

[mossy needle]

I did it like 5 years ago when I worked at an arcade and had a ton of downtime

It's extremely frustrating and requires near perfection on all the courses

[hollow rune]

If you manage it make sure to update it on the sheet. That would be super cool to be able to list

[mossy needle]

Absolutely

Next for me is DK64

Speaking of frustrating

[dusty tusk]

Did you get cartridge tilting working?

[weary palm]

I did some calculation given this figure. I got 4.25 (68 / 16), but 4 is close enough, right?

Yeah.. 67.4, 67.4 instead of 68, 68. No problem... 😉

[wraith iron]

Where does the save state folder live in the filesystem?

[safe robin]

/media/fat/savestates ?

[wraith iron]

just found it then, thanks!

Is there anyway to offset the position of the FPS counter? My PVM cuts it off

[safe robin]

i dont think there is

[wraith iron]

no problem, thanks for the response

[quasi storm]

If you disable the data cache, the core runs slow enough that you could probably count them yourself.

[weary palm]

I would say it was easier

[viral swift]

1080 without savestate

Pilotwings 64 works but has perf. Issues

[quasi storm]

Love your entertainment center setup, by the way.

[viral swift]

DK64 looks really nice 😍

Yeah thanks Bro

[native mesa]

To my knowledge the mister doesn't support HDR which really gets the CRT filters looking good on an LED tv with retrotink.

[viral swift]

Gonna use the Mister with a RT4K

Should be fine 😁

[inner bronze]

want RT4K. Have HDR 4K OLED

[viral swift]

Same here

[hearty python]

Iirc there is some „Fake" HDR

[viral swift]

Duke Zero Hour

[quasi storm]

Rush 2049. That one next!

[viral swift]

When its time 😁

[quasi storm]

Aw...

[wicked granite]

This is Wrong. Mister does support HDR and it works. You can turn it on in Mister.ini. On my TV it shows up as HDR HLG and you can clearly see the extra brightness. It also works well with the various scanline filters by compensating for the loss of brightness.....

[native mesa]

Well I did say to my knowledge. But nice! I'll have to try it

[viral swift]

Nice! I guess the Wiki is just really outdated

[remote hatch]

turn off hi res in option before race 🙂

will be look better

[daring meteor]

Disable expansion pak

[viral swift]

Nice

Works very well

Not as crisp as the DC version but still very nice

[hearty python]

Yea the rush games are fast, mostly 30 fps

[safe robin]

i always thought that PSX was THE racing game console. but now i begin to think that N64 had even more racing games ^^

[solemn maple]

I thought the game had a neogeo logo and got real confused 😁

[hearty python]

Not more, but some nice ones

[viral swift]

Try out ODT

It was never released on the N64 althogh it was finished

[remote hatch]

psx has 313 racing games 🙂

N64 ?

[quasi storm]

Has about 313 games period.

[safe robin]

but i talk about the ones that are worth playing 🙂

[quasi storm]

They're all worth playing. Even the bad ones.

[remote hatch]

hehe ok 😄

[quasi storm]

Bad n64 game marathon list. Go.

[hearty python]

Thats about 4% of the library. So it is enough if n64 had 10 😂

[safe robin]

i mean sure psx has many racing gems but n64 is very strong too

[quasi storm]

Don't say Goldeneye.

[viral swift]

Quake 2 is black like quake 64

[quasi storm]

In all seriousness though. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to see the multiplats where N64 runs circles around the PlayStation.

South Park. Sarges Heroes 1 and 2

Mk4. Although that one is great on both.

Re~Volt

[uncut gyro]

cartridge versus CD is an argument we don’t need to rehash, and BOM cost of extra RAM was easier for Nintendo to absorb as they had very reasonable to believe they could pull land at least 50% of the market again

[quasi storm]

I'm not talking media. I'm talking the games themselves.

[uncut gyro]

yea

[quasi storm]

Cause let's be honest, if you take away the music and fmvs, what are you left with? (Now it's about media 😆)

[uncut gyro]

on PSX, if you didn’t have a Mark-san like person to personally help you optimize data streaming from CD, you were at an immediate disadvantage versus folks who were already used to cartridge

[cobalt junco]

@viral swift Nice photo's

[strong nimbus]

Quick questions. Running N64 at Mister stable. Any improvements in mister unstable?

[quasi storm]

Maybe better analogue control.

There is a mister main that fixes the sensitivity.

I believe it's in unstable.

[strong nimbus]

Thank you. How easy it is to switch back from unstable to stable?

[quasi storm]

Just keep a copy of your old mister main. Rename it to something like "MiSTerold" or something.

If things go pear shaped, you can always just name it back.

[zinc dew]

OOPS SORRY I SORTED IT

IM SO SORRY

[quasi storm]

Dammit Robby!

Just revert it.

[zinc dew]

no I mean I was the one who did it hours ago

I’m sorry!!

[quasi storm]

Oh... 😆

[zinc dew]

I thought it was just a local change

[quasi storm]

@zinc dew Comes in.
Sorts the database.
Leaves.
No further explanation given.

[zinc dew]

That was 100% what happened

I sorted to see what was playable and went through updating the pinned list here

[quasi storm]

In your defense. I rather liked it that way. But I thought nonit screwed with the way the formulas worked.

[zinc dew]

yeah I messed up : (

[quasi storm]

Whatevs, dude. It's fixed!

[zinc dew]

Who had to fix my goof?

[quasi storm]

It's not like you took down some kind of government database.

Me.

And several others when I made it worse...

[hearty python]

Cartridges helps Nintendo to make a profit on the hardware. The medium itself was a good copy protection, helps also to make a profit on the games. We will never know what happens if n64 used a cdrom. 😁

[zinc dew]

@quasi storm ok I owe you

[quasi storm]

Not really, man. I was at work (Still am actually) and took a stab at it on my android phone. Failed. And handed it off. 😆

You better lay low for awhile, though. Someone may be looking for you...

[limber willow]

Cartridges had better load times. I can't get into some PS1 games because of load screens

that being said, when I was a kid, I never realised the elevators in MGS were to hide loading screens.
I really thought we were going down up/down the lift

[scarlet prawn]

Yeah but it doesn’t do proper tone mapping and colors are way off, just like the Tink 5X. It’s just not powerful enough apparently, that’s where the tink4k comes in.

[hearty python]

Yes, load times was a thing. But some games do a good job here.

But look at the switch with the animal crossing cartridge, loadtimes as a cd 😂

[hearty oar]

Turns out an underclocked 2015 mobile CPU isn’t the best for fast load times

[quasi storm]

My favorite loading related thing is Eternal Darkness on GameCube. If you listened to the console as you approached a door, you could hear it loading the next area.

he tricky part is that sometimes the game would load some kind of trick along with the next area to mess with your brain... and you could HEAR that shit.

I was able to pick out the slightly different sound my console made when it was going to do this, and I always tensed because I didn't know WHAT was going to happen.

[zinc dew]

Eternal Darkness isn’t a good game

It’s a great game!

[quasi storm]

It's like zit zit zit, here is your level, and zit zit zit now your head is going to explode

[timid torrent]

Is the transfer pak basically a glorified card reader?

[hollow pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[kind nimbus]

Lord Robert, we are not worthy

[hollow pebble]

I was ready to lay down the law Rob

[zinc dew]

I will never poop on games I don’t like. I only make fun of stuff I love lol.

I feel like as ex mod you have that right.

[daring meteor]

You love Holy Magic Century?

[hollow pebble]

[zinc dew]

Not really. I think it’s perfect meme material though lol.

[remote hatch]

what ?!!!

[zinc dew]

I ADORE IT

[hollow pebble]

Have you played Eternal Darkness with Pro Logic II ok your receiver and you cast a spell?

https://tenor.com/view/excited-whoa-wow-omg-drugged-gif-5320434

[remote hatch]

my heart is broken @zinc dew

[zinc dew]

[neat sierra]

The truth is out

He was using you

[zinc dew]

My passion

[neat sierra]

You should never have sent Robby all your worldly assets and donned the robe

[kind nimbus]

Wooooo

[neat sierra]

Wahoo

[zinc dew]

The final game with Nester

[neat sierra]

Man that Martinet video is embedded in my brain, going to be dreaming of those Mario voices coming out of his huge yeti frame for weeks

[fallen sparrow]

That game messed with you. For anyone that hasn't played it, don't read up on it, or watch a video. Just go in blind

[zinc dew]

Now you can dream of both of us flexing

[neat sierra]

I don’t remember buying tickets to the gun show

Hmm he looked bigger in that video and Miyamoto commented on his size so I figured he was huge

Someone should have placed a banana in front of him

I guess he could have also been holding the banana but it would ruin his Mario jump pose

[desert crow]

one person in that pic didn't sort the sheet 🙂 I'll let you guess which that was

[quasi storm]

Uh oh. @zinc dew, It's him. HIDE!

[hearty oar]

mama mia!

[neat sierra]

Is Robby the MiSTer Ambassador? But where do we send him?

[zinc dew]

I’m so sorry!!!

[remote hatch]

too late

[timid torrent]

@wanton sun is the goal with the transfer pak to be able to emulate the transfer pak entirely inside the mister, or is it to be able to communicate with an external, real physical controller with a transfer pak installed?

[quasi storm]

So much for laying low...

[zinc dew]

#1096015979055697940 message

[neat sierra]

He could just follow martinet around to cons and emerge from behind him

[zinc dew]

See I came clean earlier!

I’m sorry!!

[neat sierra]

“So you like Mario”

[neat sierra]

Don’t be sorry, be better

[remote hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/yankees-thumbs-down-not-good-gif-13886850

[desert crow]

I'm joking, knowing you you're probably taking the blame for somebody

[quasi storm]

Oh, the plot thickens?

[zinc dew]

no no that was definitely me. I sorted yesterday at like 5pm to get latest on playable titles to update the pinned list here.

I thought it was a local sort

[neat sierra]

I heard it was retro Rob

[zinc dew]

I screwed up and I owe someone here

[quasi storm]

Morgan Freeman - "It was not a local sort"

[broken viper]

I spent the extra $18 to get a Zelda themed one lol
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2B8CCR1

[quasi storm]

Pretty

[neat sierra]

But you never see it

[broken viper]

I have many problems and a Zelda obsession is the least of them.

[zinc dew]

ohhh what’s another problem

[quasi storm]

"Hey, stop having fun" guy

[neat sierra]

Fair and you’ll know it’s there

Maybe you’ll check sometimes to make sure

[zinc dew]

lol

[broken viper]

I have two, one in my steamdeck and one in my switch and I see them when I transfer files which is actually fairly often.

[neat sierra]

Wow openly admits to using emulators

That’s stealing from Martinet

[broken viper]

I have the 128gb mario one in my 3ds but that one only cost $14.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXQX3S3

[neat sierra]

And Robby who eats Martinets leavings at cons

[broken viper]

Maybe I'm just playing steam games on my steamdeck? =p

[neat sierra]

Err by that I mean food

Pizza crusts mostly

[north lagoon]

Super Mario 64 does not pass title screen without a patch. Does a technical post/article explaining what is missing to the core to fix this? Thanks.

[inner bronze]

Discussed to death. Needs TLB implemented.

Use no-face patch

[broken viper]

I thought the latest version gave Mario eyes? Thought that meant faces were working now.

[inner bronze]

The no-face is referring to the pinchable intro face

Not the ingame face. That was a bug.

The title screen face is basically a tech demo that uses the TLB for some reason

[broken viper]

Funny how they put a tech demo not used in the game itself in the intro just to flex lol

[neat sierra]

Robert does this cool thing where he builds in the order that gets the most stuff playable so you can fart around and make memes. Bless him

^ that was my technical explanation

[broken viper]

But also my logic was that I'm hoping a "gaming" focused sd card was designed with frequent read/writes in mind and not just long term storage of photos/videos. Mostly I bought it because it makes me happy but hopefully they are decent quality if they are made to be sold for gaming.

[quasi storm]

(Imagines an SD card with led lighting and a software suite.)

[broken viper]

I actually despise led lighting and think it is a shame the vast majority of gaming products think gamer means "should be used at a rave".

[elfin relic]

clear cases and led lighting are for psychos

I just want a black box that makes the pixels go zoom on my screen

[broken viper]

I was actually really sad the best steamdeck backplate for thermal cooling only comes in transparent so I bought a dbrand skin to cover it lol.

[kind nimbus]

Has sound and flickering issues, but otherwise... Yep Pilotwings is playable

There's moments where the fps goes up to 60 and it feels amazing. And sometimes it's at 15...

Would be awesome if it one day ran at 60, but who knows

Like riding a bike

[desert crow]

in Pilotwings there are secret stars hidden in game, and they warp you to a birdman stage if you find one

[primal bolt]

Nice!

yes that would be awesome if we could get it to 60fps

[zinc dew]

I am also a fan of the Series X

[plush summit]

https://tenor.com/view/birdman-ready-hand-rub-lets-get-it-im-ready-gif-4886318

[elfin relic]

is the series x allowed me to play my steam library natively, I'd buy one in a heart beat tbh

[primal bolt]

I think Racer looks more appealing on the N64 compared to Dreamcast version. Is the Dreamcast just a higher resolution version with no other improvements?

I could be wrong and change my mind but it always felt cheap on DC to me

[hearty python]

I guess that the programmers could do better. Look Wii U with Zelda Breath of the wild. Only one GB of ram and a BDrom. 😁

[quasi storm]

Nailed it.

[hearty python]

Perhaps a good investment to get no fakes 😁

[zinc dew]

Higher res, textures, and framerate. Albeit not a major upgrade at all.

[marble cargo]

Donkey Kong 64 is weird. You try to play the DK Rap, and the sound just dies. You skip the rap, and everything is normal.

It's like the core is sentient and is punishing you for trying to play the funny monkey rap.

[quasi storm]

Am I the only one who has ever referred to the Dreamcast as "N64 with less slowdown"?

[primal bolt]

well framerate is important... I guess it depends which one controls better

[broken viper]

fake storage on Amazon and Ebay is really insane. There are so many blatant fakes by sellers with almost completely positive reviews that number in the thousands.

[primal bolt]

No love for the SanDian? lol

shameless fake

shady as hell

the real fakes are worse, though... cause the average perosn wouldn't know

[broken viper]

No one buy this 2tb sd card for $10 by a seller with 211 reviews that are 98% positive:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225732422795?hash=item348eb36c8b:g:hocAAOSwZJJk3i-S&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwP9lAWmY89WGxsVM3lnKAX%2Fh8nSJfY27TTiT1dSyACVCKpIMbahg2LsrVJ%2Fz0WC%2FFM1ZQ1rI9Iq%2BR7QYGdy929frKaL2YOlTbN%2BbkCXlylSoQKqXIudk7fb33OZO%2FldUqchJhgYH%2B4e899cHpC60WdY9NN6VnMeT9%2BC8z52PXXAAkMshEgstpAsfjrpxiFKZeXtGXTSU0XeRqTHo9ZxlGTef5OVVhjYK1NtxXEWQGXTDQHLhf%2FjyP7CTpmT52KcA0g%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9zd45XRYg

[primal bolt]

is there even a such thing as 2TB?

[broken viper]

There isn't

[primal bolt]

didnt think so

[broken viper]

And if there were it would be in the thousands of dollar price range lol

[quasi storm]

What do these fake cards actually do? Do they misreport their storage capacity?

[primal bolt]

im sure one day therew ill be

[hearty python]

Fake is done to make money. So it will be done on anything wich allowed make profit. Years ago I got a fake PSP memory 😂

[broken viper]

But not today, and certainly not for $10

[primal bolt]

never for $10 lol

[hearty python]

If they can make 10$ where they make normally 2$, they do it

[broken viper]

Is it bad I kinda want to buy a couple and just give them out to people for free and not tell them they are probably 16gb cards that are hacked and see what aggrivation that causes people?

[night saddle]

working Pilotwings 🤩
trying this as soon as I get home

[quasi storm]

Pilotwings, and much more!

[broken viper]

I never actually accomplished anything in Pilotwings, I always just flew around doing dumb stuff until I crashed. Is there like levels or something to it?

[quasi storm]

This is the way.

[hearty python]

That depends on the fake. Some are only bad, others may tricks with the capacity also

[daring meteor]

Get nvme

Nobody fucks with nvme capacity

[cerulean elk]

is this just old @zinc dew ?

from the future

[hearty python]

Not sure, there a cheap unknown brands also

[zinc dew]

yeah it was from E3 2015, I was there showing off DOOM (2016)

[cerulean elk]

looks like you were just in from churning butter

[remote hatch]

correct 😄

[odd vector]

did someone try the 8bitdo x retrobit n64 controller already? I have one laying around, but before I check the cellar I wanted to make sure that it works ^^

[hearty python]

Perhaps better ask also in #controllers This channel moves really fast. 😁

[zinc dew]

I was, but we call it “doin’ awbacon’s maw” round these parts

[cerulean elk]

Really I figured vigorous hand pumping was just called “Robby’s every two hours”

[zinc dew]

LOOK GIVE ME A WIN PLZ

[cerulean elk]

Only diff between @zinc dew and an Amish butter churner is only one got arrested for churning in their car in the Costco parking lot at 4 pm on a Monday

[hearty python]

We are all only humans, except Robert - he is a Maschine 😂

[cerulean elk]

Vaseline machine maybe

Rhyming burn 🤣

Oh wait you said Robert. Not Robby. He cool

[hearty python]

I wish I had 10% from Robert, first thing I would do is cd32 core 😁

[scarlet prawn]

Anyone know when the updates for the N64 in the Mister main might go into the stable release? I ran into an issue with the AO486 core for some reason it caused sync to go out of whack and I couldn't use that core anymore.. hoping their will be a stable release of those changes soon.

[broken viper]

I'd do a cd-i core just to make people question why the hell anyone would make one and explore the library looking for some kind of hidden gem that would motivate a developer (spoilers: they'll only find pain)

[hearty python]

Not really, but many games from the n64 core runs also on stable.

[zinc dew]

had to chase after my run away dog this morning and now my minivan won’t start lol

[hearty python]

Cdi is also history - so why not. Having is better than searching 😂

[zinc dew]

Hoping for a new core build!

balance out the bad with the good

[broken viper]

Yea there is a mario game and the last zelda game that didn't get a pc port to preserve.

[hearty python]

Mario Hotel ?

[hearty python]

Battery?

[fallen sparrow]

Just finished the first mission on rogue Squadron

[zinc dew]

I think it’s the serpentine belt. Been trying to jump it for the past 20 minutes and nothing. Earlier it was having issues with the power steering which is making me think it’s the belt since if that goes bad the car engine won’t start.

I don’t have the tools to fix that so I might have to get it towed

lol more time to play N64 I guess

[broken viper]

Yup, and 1 of the 3 zelda games for cd-i never got a pc port. The first 2 did because they are arguably fun to play (once they have some control/ui improvements made to them) but 1 of the 3 was such trash the person that fixed up the other 2 refused to even attempt to improve it because he didn't think it could be saved haha.

[ripe sentinel]

quick question.. that i am a little embarrashed to ask.. is Quest a game? or just a meme game? had never heard of it growing up but i see it mentioned/posted in here like daily.

[zinc dew]

Yes

[elfin relic]

It's a game, a real one

but robby was so in love with it that it was banned

[broken viper]

Are you familiar with "The Room"?

[elfin relic]

so now it is forbidden

[unkempt vortex]

Tommy Wiseau? 😄

[ripe sentinel]

i am

[broken viper]

The short version is "The Room" is such a terrible movie people ended up enjoying watching it because of how bad it is. Quest is like the game version of that.

[elfin relic]

now we all must go on 64 quests in order to convince the queen that love is real and then robby can be reunited with his long lost cartridge

[ripe sentinel]

ahhhh

hahah ok.

must expeirence it. thank you

[broken viper]

Like Superman 64 but with some actual funny parts mixed in with the pain

[elfin relic]

Robbyman 64 Brothers Legends

[unkempt vortex]

like Cheetahmen 2

[fair stump]

So how is your playthrough going so far?

[mortal panther]

64% complete

[frail jolt]

The kenji eno series of games are the closest video games akin to "The Room"

D, Enemy Zero, D2

[zinc dew]

Can’t save!

Waiting for controller pak support

[quasi storm]

It's a middling RPG at best.

[frail jolt]

Poor acting, weird vision, a lot of passion put into it... a great game to laugh at with friends

[native mesa]

So majorahs mask ocarina bug is TLB right?

[quasi storm]

Yep

[orchid nimbus]

everyone talking about their SD cards here 😄

here is my NAS

1 location - multiple misters

[daring meteor]

Flash

[native mesa]

@wanton sun we need this feature lol https://youtu.be/IPkDvrM7Hwg

[paper orchid]

I use a NAS for my setup as well

14TB + 1TB of SATA SSDs

[native mesa]

NAS is the way to go

[paper orchid]

(I need to grab some more disks soon, but I'm waiting for Silverstone to release a specific case)

[native mesa]

I have the disks but not the slots 😦

[orchid nimbus]

2tb is enough for me - not a hoarder

[paper orchid]

Silverstone when are you gonna release the RM600 to the world 😭

[orchid nimbus]

said the guy with 700+GB of games

[daring meteor]

How do you fill up 14TB

How

[paper orchid]

I mean, it's not full yet

[orchid nimbus]

video/pictures

[paper orchid]

A fair few redump/NoIntro sets and stuff on Plex to watch

[mortal panther]

4K remux files, for a start...

[hearty python]

Easy full ps1 set 😂

[orchid nimbus]

only 2.5Tb

[mortal panther]

My NAS is largely comprised of my entire Plex media library.

[paper orchid]

Full PS2 set 🙃

(I don't have a full PS2 set)

[cobalt junco]

I put you all to shame...

[paper orchid]

But yeah, mostly stuff my partner and I have queued up for watching in Plex

[hearty python]

Never, Full Set is over 7900 games

[broken viper]

...My full ps1 set in chd format with regional duplicates deleted is 700gb lol

[paper orchid]

One day I will get there rofl

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH1ekuvSYzE

STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADING

[native mesa]

Same I'll probably rack mount eventually right now it's just a 4 bay Synology

[primal bolt]

I don't need a NAS for MiSTer, I need MiSTer Express with 5TB drive inside

[neat sierra]

I just watched these all again a couple weeks ago. Love it

[paper orchid]

There we go, I just need this case to come out for my home lab

[mortal panther]

"Pork chop sandwiches!"

[paper orchid]

My partner just ran through them all a couple days ago as well, I forgot how well those hold up

[broken viper]

an entire branch of humor sprung from this

[native mesa]

Do y'all have radarr integrated with the Plex watch list? That's the move. All my friends can just add stuff to their watchlist and it 'appears' on my server

[paper orchid]

Sonarr/Radarr yeah

Though, the watch list integration, I don't think I have that

I should look into it though 👀 I just manage it with Sonarr/Radarr

[hearty python]

Years ago I have done a local dvd server with 8TB, cause my daughter scratched ever the medium’s… went fast to be full. 😂

[paper orchid]

Speaking of, I actually need to get my USB BD drive hooked back up to my NAS

I have some containers that'll dump a given disc's contents and convert the files to something less massive, then I can import those into Plex

[native mesa]

That is nice

[paper orchid]

I have a few things I'd like to get off disc if I can since they're hard to find these days

[elfin relic]

I need to get a BD drive, last time I did some dumps and encodes I had to borrow the drive

[native mesa]

External ones are like 30 bucks

[elfin relic]

what, they're like double that on the cheep end

[paper orchid]

When I bought mine refurbed I think I paid $40 for it, that's when they were a bit higher in price

[hearty python]

My setup was great for the time. Just put the film in and the rest was done automatically. With a nice database and other things.

[native mesa]

Ah maybe it's dvd prices

Really off topic but should I get everything to h265? I think that would be too much on my server processer should keep it all h264 right?

[elfin relic]

h265 can store better quality in less space. There's more complicated crap underneath that statement but that's the thing.

[sly wasp]

I spent the extra $18 to get a sandevistan 😄

[daring meteor]

64 TB?

Perfect

[paper orchid]

I do H265, but everything playing back these files supports hardware decoding of it so Plex handles it fine in "most cases"

[native mesa]

Right but serving it requires more processing load, no? I get 3 or 4 people watching at a time off a little Synology box

[elfin relic]

the problem is if the devices you're playing on don't have native h265 then transcoding has to happen and if your media server doesn't have hardware 265 decoding then it is more intensive to transcode

[mortal panther]

It really boils down to the ability of the clients you will be using to decode x265 content, not the server... unless it normally does a lot of transcoding anyway... which itself is not good and should be an indicator that you should probably not consider that route.

[paper orchid]

If you're not doing subtitle burn-in and the devices can decode it then H265/x265 should be fine

[native mesa]

Just trying to free up space. I'm quickly running iut

[paper orchid]

If you're doing e.g. a "watch party" like I tend to do with people, there's ways to prepare optimized versions of files ahead of time

[elfin relic]

more storage is probably cheaper than upgrading hardware to support h265 natively

[native mesa]

Yeah it's not that unfortunately

[paper orchid]

Now that being said, if the NAS has support for e.g. QuickSync then transcoding on the fly probably isn't that big of a deal

It just depends on whether Plex has the access to QuickSync

[mortal panther]

If Plex Media Server is showing 'Direct Play' most/all of the time for the video and audio streams with others watching content from your server, then it's just down to whether or not your upload bandwidth is able to handle the demands. Very little processing server-side should be involved.

[elfin relic]

if it has access to the right quicksync

[paper orchid]

Right

[elfin relic]

my dumb little jellyfin box has quicksync but not the right one for h265

[native mesa]

Yeah it have 1Gb upload

[elfin relic]

(that is, it is old as shit)

[broken viper]

Holy shit, you should get a few of those just to have around.

[worn delta]

Thanks to the peeps who fixed the ordering on the sheet, I've hopefully put a lock on so they (hopefully) can't be reordered again on the actual sheet

[mortal panther]

Same. Fiber is wonderful. 🙂

[paper orchid]

Also same, fiber is indeed wonderful

I just got it a few months ago

[elfin relic]

"dirtect play" works if the clients can decode h265. With plex some client configs are fugged and there's other such matters that might force encode anyway.

[mortal panther]

I've shared my Plex library out to several friends and family members since upgrading. No issues now. Everything is wide open... no limits.

[elfin relic]

ime plex really likes to transcode even in cases where it shouldn't need to

[paper orchid]

burn in subtitles!

[mortal panther]

(figures everything will get back on-topic once a new build drops, so not too worried about contributing) 😏

[elfin relic]

subtitles are why I switched to jellyfin

no longer burning in subs when there is no god damn need

[paper orchid]

I have to do burn-in at the moment because Plex has some broken fonts lmao

[elfin relic]

anyway I played Custom Robo today and it was pretty dang perfect except battle scenes don't load any textures for the battle ground

it was nice to see that sin & punishment's subtitles are done proper now instead of black on black

[lone geyser]

I think it's because you used 84 instead of 85

[paper orchid]

Yeah, at this point I'm waiting for a couple missing textures to show up and then I'm gonna start going through it with a magnifying glass

I've got a recording someone did of a playthrough on N64, I did a recording recent-ish but as more things are getting fixed I may wait a bit longer

[drowsy lantern]

How are you guys playing your S&P? Are you using the original Japanese rom or is there an decent English patch somewhere?

[paper orchid]

Original JP ROM

[elfin relic]

original Japanese

[paper orchid]

The game's story is all English spoken so it's just learning the menus

[elfin relic]

even if you don't know Japanese, you just gotta know to hit the most upper right menu item to start the game

[mortal panther]

Ah, didn't know that. May check it out then.

[paper orchid]

Upper left

[elfin relic]

that one

[paper orchid]

Upper right is difficulty

[mortal panther]

Left is right.

[elfin relic]

look just get bonus

[paper orchid]

Lemme actually grab a photo of the menu, I can ID everything

[elfin relic]

I think someone ported the Wii vc whatever's into a real patch

[mortal panther]

lol

[drowsy lantern]

What difficulty are you recommending for a first-time player?

[elfin relic]

the default, which is easy

[paper orchid]

Start Easy, then go to Normal

The top-right here shows "Easy" (iishii)

[orchid nimbus]

Vivid Dolls seems to be running but I can't get out of that menu or control the menu

[knotty zealot]

you seem to be running

[paper orchid]

So starting top-left going down, Start/Continue, Training, Ranking, Scene Select (level/cutscene), back to title on the left, OPT for unlockables on the right

[orchid nimbus]

go Seagull yourself @knotty zealot

you crazy Norwegian troll 😄

[drowsy lantern]

Thanks guys!

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-22834483

[paper orchid]

On the top-right: difficulty (Easy and Normal by default), audio (stereo/mono), controller options, then I think bottom right is clearing the save

[native mesa]

Are you the red letter media guy?

[paper orchid]

In the controller options: normal/reverse for aiming on the left I believe? (invert), crosshair lines on the right

I'm not gonna decode all three controller layouts but that should be "enough" to figure out the game

Suggestion, do the training to see what things do

[cerulean elk]

It’s like they are implying the controller is a golden deity

[paper orchid]

Training is heavy on the Japanese but basically it's "here's a button, push it"

[mortal panther]

It is

[paper orchid]

The N64 controller sure as hell is

[mortal panther]

Best controller ever

[eternal island]

what do you mean. just hold it properly. all ya gotta do

[marble cargo]

Sin & Punishment is one of those games where the controls look confusing, but make more sense once you spend a little bit of time on it.

[mortal panther]

The only reason no one else has used that configuration is because they are afraid of getting sued by Nintendo. That's the only reason. 😉

Everyone else is just mad that Nintendo came up with it first.

[paper orchid]

The controls are a little confusing, if you're using a non-N64 controller IMO

With an actual N64 controller though, oh man it feels so good

[marble cargo]

I would argue a lot of Nintendo 64 games have that problem. Especially since there isn't an obvious equivalent to the C buttons on other controllers.

[paper orchid]

Right, which I'll agree with you there. C "stick" works fine for some but in S&P it's a bit painful, especially when also trying to sort the whole "L/R vs. Z" deal

I have an 8bitdo ultimate as a standby controller, so standard Xbox-ish layout, analog triggers

Z on those analog triggers for S&P is not good

[mild ether]

It's got to be the most awkward controller that ever came with a console. I didn't think so in the 90s but now I certainly do.

[night saddle]

yeah its tough. would need something with dual bumper buttons and 6 face buttons, with an analog stick.

[paper orchid]

Ideally something like LB for jump, RB for shoot, the face buttons for the C buttons, then...triggers for A/B because usually you'll never hit those during S&P rofl

(auto-lock is useful in some cases but you get to a point where you avoid using it, it's a bit clunky in general)

It works off this weird thing where you switch to auto-lock, then you tap the stick in the direction of the thing you want to lock onto

Holding it can often cause the auto-lock to say "oh you don't mean that target, fine then"

[cerulean elk]

I swear the N64 controller was designed by orthopedic surgeons who were seeding the population for hand surgery later in life

[viscid nebula]

its even better trying to play mario odyssey 64 as you need the L button to throw the hat

[cerulean elk]

I’ll have one at 4 today

[mild ether]

It's definitely more uncomfortable in my old hands vs young. Can't imagine playing GoldenEye for hours with one anymore.

[paper orchid]

That's why I play Goldeneye with two instead lmao

[cerulean elk]

Yeah I just get a thumb cramp now after awhile. It’s fine on the right hand but the whole analog on the left hand thing just leads to cramps

[paper orchid]

The way the analog stick is on the left hand isn't really ergonomic yeah

Like it's in the right "place" but it's just not comfortable

[nova grotto]

Does the actual core still needs data cache delay for super mario 64 ?

[mortal panther]

It helps...

[paper orchid]

Oh you

you and your translated screens

[eternal island]

there is a different patch found to fix random crashing. still has occasional crashes that are caused by specific things

[dense wagon]

OMG, so yeah just did a update of all the stuffs today on my MiSTer and yeah OOT Master Quest boots... my life is now complete haha

[weary palm]

That's true. 68/17 is exactly 4. Thanks.

[dense wagon]

Despite... you know... having it on the 3DS, Wii Virtual Console, and a PAL N64 back in the UK (far away from me right now)

[weary palm]

OoT vanilla (GameCube version) also boots, if you rather want that

[cerulean elk]

Ugh this reminds me I’ve gotta do some YT file management this week

[dense wagon]

easy to fill 14TiB... banks and banks of machines generating AI 'art' Norks

that or run a particle physics experiment

[cerulean elk]

It’s getting out of hand. Like 40TB of junk I keep shuffling around

[dense wagon]

our raid array is like... 12TiB, we fill it up in about a week

[rich delta]

I certainly hear you but that might have been more to do with your signal than the TV. If you ever get the chance check out a RGB signal on a half decent CRT its immeasurably clearer than what I played in my 80s bedroom. A tube gives a very distinctive look that really does give a different look to pixel artwork. Mind you as you're in the niche position of being a developer I can understand the desire/need for using a razor sharp LCD/OLED when debugging.

[dense wagon]

and thats... a pretty low data rate

[dense wagon]

Yeah iv finished OOT to like near 100% completion (just a few spiders out there missing) and was working on the MasterQuest but never completed it, got RIGHT to the end but didnt quite get time to do it

[little socket]

For that n64 would have had to support rgb (discounting the handful systems of early releases)

[dense wagon]

yeah, played n64 on a tiny CRT which we had in my room... same TV i used for the ZX Spectrum, C64 and Amiga... till it died 2 weeks after getting an N64 haha replaced with a slightly better one.

[primal bolt]

if it dies, it dies

[dense wagon]

and yeah back in those days, most people only had a single TV in the house... wood age of TV still haha At least in our area

[orchid nimbus]

what!!

[lone geyser]

Linux ISOs

[daring meteor]

I love Linuks

[little socket]

50cm was quiet large for a tv though being not the primary houshold device.
I remember my 14",35cm childhood 🥲

[daring meteor]

XFCE is my favorate Distro

[drowsy lantern]

That's the English patch? It looks good! Any reason not to use it?

[orchid nimbus]

no reason not to use it

[lavish snow]

[drowsy lantern]

It's not this one is it? https://www.romhacking.net/translations/920/

The font looks completely different based on the screenshots.

[primal bolt]

it should be in the HTGDB pack, which is what you should be using

[paper orchid]

It's not that one

[orchid nimbus]

@drowsy lantern I don't know what's all out there

[dense wagon]

Makes one feel a little ahem inadequit

[orchid nimbus]

I'm just a parasite that likes pirated contents

hence my nickname

[little socket]

Cops have been notified

[paper orchid]

Ohhh I thought you a vampire that liked, like

boats

pier

But yeah IIRC there's two patches: the one on Romhacking is a clean patch, and the other one uses the stuff from the VC release of Sin & Punishment

[lavish snow]

Mamma mia

[orchid nimbus]

Vampier is Dutch/German for Vampire

or I'm dyslectic

your choice

[paper orchid]

I'm just giving you a hard time lol

[orchid nimbus]

or maybe both

[rich delta]

Oh absolutely but this is possible nowadays and will be very possible on this core. It really is night and day playing these old games on CRTs vs modern LCDs/OLEDs. I know it sounds a bit 'snobbish' but it really is IMO but you shouldnt put up with the blurry signals we put up with back then - its partly why the N64 was seen as a vaseline factory that happened to play games (Im joking, Im joking - I loved mine!)

[primal bolt]

Hitler used Vampier instead of Vampire

[orchid nimbus]

@primal bolt WHAT THE xxxx IS WRONG WITH YOU

[hearty python]

In German we say Blutsauger 😂

[orchid nimbus]

Vampir/Blutsauger

ja ja ja was ist loss was is das

[primal bolt]

Too intelligent

I know how to trigger you

[orchid nimbus]

it's inapropreate and out of context

[primal bolt]

but if you can please beat WCW Backstage Assault so we can see if it has any bugs

[orchid nimbus]

do better

[hollow rune]

Yeah it wasn't funny

[dense wagon]

Yeah i mean, looking at the old display modes on PCs back in the day... CGA was it, the weird horrible one where everything looks either pink or blue... but basically if you ran on the display it was intended for, it kinda auto mixed stuff to create more colors. Really interesting how people got around limitations. but yeah in the case of some of these old systems, haha my memory of the graphics is like... oh... on an moden display it looks kinda pants... it used to look so much smoother.

[primal bolt]

Hitler wasn't funny

[dense wagon]

but then its only really smooth because the displays are blurry AF

[orchid nimbus]

neither are you

[primal bolt]

I'm not trying to be funny... settle down

[hollow rune]

Then my question would be what is the goal?

[primal bolt]

there is no goal, I was talking to my friend vampier

[hearty python]

There was a time, that consoles used colored plastic on the tv to imitate color 😁

[dense wagon]

haha yes... even lower tech, hardware solution

stick on the display with static haha different era... kids these days! dont know their born

[orchid nimbus]

@primal bolt seriously - stop it

I've asked you numerous times

[primal bolt]

stop what? lol

jesus

[orchid nimbus]

I don't like blocking people - but you are on my permanent brownlist

[primal bolt]

quit tagging me

ok? good for you

[fair stump]

Anyone know what's next on the dev docket?

[hearty python]

Depends on the fun from Robert 😁

[remote hatch]

A new core for testing is needed here, seriously

It's starting to get weird

[zenith orchid]

is this actually comfortable to hold? I've never seen the back of these controllers